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2025 - Welcome to Plathville (s8e1) "Practice What You Preach" with Kimberly · Pink Shade: Reality TV with Mary Payne

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to Pink Shade.
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  Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, and guess what I'm here with Kimberly to
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  Speaker 2: do Season eight of Welcome to PLAITHFL never been done
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  Speaker 2: on the free feed. We always put it over on
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  Speaker 2: the paid feed. Currently, guys, right now, Keisha and I
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: are doing a rewatch of Welcome to plaithfor we're mid
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  Speaker 2: season three. So if you love platform and you can't
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: like want to like catch up whatever, you can go
• 0:37
  Speaker 2: back over there.
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  Speaker 1: But because Keisha.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't know everything that happens, I was like, she can't
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  Speaker 2: recap the new season. There's too much missing, So I
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  Speaker 2: brought in Kimberly. Kimberly is gonna We're gonna rage out together.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna be amazing.
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  Speaker 3: Disclaimer, I am not Keisha. I am not as funny
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  Speaker 3: as Keisha. I'm not as likable as Keisha. My name
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  Speaker 3: starts with the K. That is our only that we
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  Speaker 3: have in common. She is just better than me in
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  Speaker 3: every single way, So try not to be disappointed. Lower
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  Speaker 3: your expectations, just like you should do when interacting with
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  Speaker 3: the Plaths. Lower your expectations.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's interesting too, because I was, first of all,
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  Speaker 2: that's not true, you and Kisha are equally hilarious in
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  Speaker 2: your own ways, and I don't like when the two
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  Speaker 2: of you pretend to fight. And also you guys, I
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  Speaker 2: was saying on some other show you and I were doing.
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  Speaker 2: I think that I've been watching. It's just timely. I've
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  Speaker 2: been watching over on the TikTok a story by a
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  Speaker 2: girl named Kristin Suber. You look it up Kristin Suber
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  Speaker 2: sub e er. It looks like Kristen's uber, but that's
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  Speaker 2: not what it means. And she is telling her life
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  Speaker 2: story of being in the IBLP cult, which is the
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  Speaker 2: same as the Douggers and the Plaths.
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  Speaker 1: And she's from kro and Thomasville, Georgia. So there's a huge.
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  Speaker 2: Compound there with like sixteen children. That is not the Dugger,
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  Speaker 2: it's not the Plaths. That is the head of the
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  Speaker 2: iba LP.
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  Speaker 1: In that area.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting, so I recommend listening, going and taking a little
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  Speaker 2: is Lindsay Nole hair Bunkie sent that to me along
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  Speaker 2: with Chris and some other people, So shout out to
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  Speaker 2: them for alerting me to a complete time suck. So
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  Speaker 2: now we're going to get right into it. I have
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  Speaker 2: an amazing slideshow so if you're not watching on YouTube,
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  Speaker 2: you're not going to get to see it. So going
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  Speaker 2: over to YouTube, hit subscribe, hit like follow along as
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  Speaker 2: we're doing this, because I found some inconsistencies. I found
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  Speaker 2: some shocking information that.
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  Speaker 3: Mary Payne is going red string murder board conspiracy theory.
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  Speaker 3: She's bringing proof, screenshots, timelines, she's detectiving the situation and
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  Speaker 3: she is We're not going to be fooled by these people.
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  Speaker 2: I'm currently in a rewatch, so I'm watching the stories
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  Speaker 2: for the third time.
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  Speaker 1: You can't tell me nothing, okay.
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  Speaker 3: And these people try revisionist history. They're teaching revisionist history
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  Speaker 3: the advance course. They do it fairly well, but we're
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  Speaker 3: not falling for it.
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  Speaker 2: No, And that's the only thing kim Plath is teaching,
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  Speaker 2: because we know she never taught one lesson to these children.
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  Speaker 3: To get them to a gen No one needs math,
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  Speaker 3: no critical thinking, no one needs critical thinking, but revisionist
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  Speaker 3: history to never have to apologize when you've done something wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Queen, the girl that is doing the TikTok, she is
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  Speaker 2: saying that because of this IBLP. You know, they're homeschooled,
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  Speaker 2: but at some point her parents got in trouble with
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  Speaker 2: like CPS, and they were forced to go to school
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  Speaker 2: and she tested at a kindergarten level and she was
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  Speaker 2: like fourteen, yeah, really really rough. And then they're like, no,
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  Speaker 2: you have to go to public school. She's like, great, wonderful,
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  Speaker 2: how embarrassing for me? So yeah, so she says, there's
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  Speaker 2: no formal anything. So anyway, let's talk about these people. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: welcome to Black.
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  Speaker 1: Pil Season eight, episode one, practice what you preach? Hey,
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  Speaker 1: if only Kim did that? Oh our kids, wouldn't we
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  Speaker 1: messed up? Okay? At the farm, do do do do
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  Speaker 1: beautiful music? Everything seems idyllic.
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  Speaker 2: At the farm, we see Kim saying how wonderful the
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  Speaker 2: farm has always been, and it's always the place she
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  Speaker 2: wants to come back to. And after several years away,
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  Speaker 2: she's returned with the three little girls now.
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  Speaker 3: Cory and Carr, Kim, Yes, for sure, Krey and.
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  Speaker 2: Cary call them Live Left Love Ambergerscassia and Keisha and
• 4:50
  Speaker 2: I just every time we talk about them, Keisha comes
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  Speaker 2: up with the new name. Sometimes they're the Pointer Sisters,
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes they're the Cheetah Girls.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes call them Marcia Jancindy. That's good that's good. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: current references only.
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  Speaker 1: Totally, only the most current, So that's.
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  Speaker 3: One of the Okay, maybe Phoebe Monica Rachel.
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  Speaker 1: Not that cool, not that cool.
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  Speaker 2: No, So she says she's returned with the three girls
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  Speaker 2: and Prakassie Mercia, two dogs, three kittens, and they are
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  Speaker 2: settled back in And she didn't want to live at
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  Speaker 2: the farm during the divorce era because she didn't want
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  Speaker 2: to see Barry in Cairo if she had to run errands.
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  Speaker 2: So this is also what Ethan and Olivia go through
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  Speaker 2: during their breakup.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, I just don't want to see these people
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  Speaker 1: at the grocery store.
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  Speaker 3: She's reclaiming her idn't want Barry to see her groceries.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's a lot of clank clank clank bottles, if
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: Barry's living the sweetest revenge of still staying in shape.
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  Speaker 3: He had a body transformation and has stuck with it.
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  Speaker 3: Kim is sticking with her under eye eyeliner like an
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  Speaker 3: Alki panda. And yeah she could. I don't want to
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  Speaker 3: criticize a woman's looks. Oh she could use an up
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  Speaker 3: her bluff, That's all I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: She could, Yeah, she could. She can use a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things.
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  Speaker 2: So this is gonna be I generally try to ease
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  Speaker 2: into my chim rage, but we're gonna have to go
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  Speaker 2: right into it because there's so much revisionist history here
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  Speaker 2: and I will not be fooled.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, No, And they're painting it like, here's the sweet
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  Speaker 3: mom with her daughters on a couch with a kitten. Like,
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  Speaker 3: how can you hate on this nice lady with a
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  Speaker 3: kitten in her lap? Yeah, one of the daughters is
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  Speaker 3: in the kitchen cooking. Get off your lazy ass and
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  Speaker 3: cook food for your children.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's another thing I learned from the video that
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  Speaker 1: I watched on TikTok. No. The children are required to do.
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  Speaker 3: The chores, you know why, And the it's mostly the women,
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  Speaker 3: because only the girls, because they want to teach them
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  Speaker 3: to be wives.
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  Speaker 2: We also learn about how they don't ever get Firth
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  Speaker 2: certificates because it doesn't really matter because they're women.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So, so she's reclaiming her life and the girls, of course,
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  Speaker 2: are with her half the time and the other half
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  Speaker 2: they're with Barry. But somebody else lives there too. Now,
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's Keen and let me tell y'all something.
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  Speaker 2: This is a woman who taught her children to never
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  Speaker 2: kiss before marriage, and now she has a man has
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  Speaker 2: moved in with her and her three teenage daughters.
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  Speaker 3: A man and all his questionable views, and that he
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  Speaker 3: sees it. Maybe is on some lists. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be. I don't know if he's on a list,
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  Speaker 3: don't either. But he is allowed around all these children,
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  Speaker 3: and that's good. So a man who they didn't even
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  Speaker 3: mention last season. They just briefly showed him, but never
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  Speaker 3: addressed that he was there.
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  Speaker 2: So here's I should have a Let me pull up
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  Speaker 2: a sound drop for every time she lies. H Okay,
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  Speaker 2: here's lie number one girl. He was in the front
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  Speaker 2: row at the wedding, sitting next to her and Barry
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  Speaker 2: at the wedding.
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  Speaker 1: You never broke up, and that.
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  Speaker 3: Is a lie.
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  Speaker 1: Lie. Okay, don't piss on my leg and tell me
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  Speaker 1: it's raining.
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  Speaker 3: Don't do it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, here's it.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, here is the AI we're gonna be
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  Speaker 2: looking at some AI pictures. Here, here's the AI picture
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  Speaker 2: of the plast He knows they don't have Amra Murzicassia.
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  Speaker 2: Here they only have the more adults. And the point
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  Speaker 2: of this is to be symbolic that they're all walking
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  Speaker 2: in different directions.
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  Speaker 3: Oh away from a tree, the tree of the tree
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  Speaker 3: of life, that's the family tree. But they're all spreading
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  Speaker 3: their branches.
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  Speaker 1: It's the tree of truth.
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  Speaker 3: And they always the smart thing they do is they
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  Speaker 3: keep the hot young ones in the front. It's the
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  Speaker 3: best thing that's right.
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  Speaker 1: That's a front and center. Okay, So.
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  Speaker 2: She says, you know, we broke up before the wedding, lie,
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  Speaker 2: and when he moved in, we let him decorate how
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  Speaker 2: he wanted. Oh really, well, there's four of you that
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  Speaker 2: live there, so you definitely shouldn't let the man come
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  Speaker 2: in and decorate how he wants with his Civil War memorabilia,
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  Speaker 2: if you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: And she says, side, he brought a jukebox.
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  Speaker 2: And it's crazy because definitely we never had any Yep.
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  Speaker 2: They were never allowed to even listen to country music,
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  Speaker 2: you guys. They were only allowed to listen to classical music.
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  Speaker 2: Ethan had to take a part of radio and reassemble
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  Speaker 2: it to get a signal from four towns away to
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  Speaker 2: learn one country song. Okay, but Mercy has learned the
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  Speaker 2: synthesizer part of Go Ahead and Jump Jump by Van
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  Speaker 2: Halen by listening to the jukebox.
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  Speaker 3: H everything's fine, secular music in the home, and no
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  Speaker 3: one has spontaneously combusted. Who knew it.
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  Speaker 1: Was Ben haalenn Aleen.
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  Speaker 2: It's definitely different from when we lived at the farm before,
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  Speaker 2: when I was torturing my children.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not perfect.
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  Speaker 2: I've made a lot of mistakes, but luckily I have
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  Speaker 2: lots of people to tell me when I mess up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you got.
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  Speaker 1: Two of them right here?
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  Speaker 3: Is she talking about us?
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  Speaker 1: She's talking about us, She's talking about.
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  Speaker 3: And that was like an attempt at humor and she
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  Speaker 3: fails every time. We need a SoundBite for when she
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  Speaker 3: tries to be funny and cheeky and like she's in
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  Speaker 3: the know with the with the watchers. Ok and it fails.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, how about this one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, sarcastica plus sarcastic Kim, try to be funny, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Lydia and Zach here's their AI picture. Gorge look
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  Speaker 1: at them, Look at these too.
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  Speaker 3: Look at that back.
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  Speaker 1: She is showing backskin, She is showing full ankle.
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  Speaker 3: She is showing she is showing the world her neck,
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  Speaker 3: back and ankle. And no one has died because men,
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  Speaker 3: it's your duty to keep it in your pants and
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  Speaker 3: women's bodies are not the garden of eden. Apple.
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  Speaker 2: She looks great. Now, I will say Lydia h. Twenty one,
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  Speaker 2: Zach h. Twenty four. They're at their apartment. They've been
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  Speaker 2: together for a year now. They say, it's so nice
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  Speaker 2: that they have this little home. He's so happy that
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: his wife has made this beautiful home. Zach has gone
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: with contact lenses because Lydia kept smudging his glasses because
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: of all the kissing. Okay, yeah, all the body fluids,
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  Speaker 2: all the all the bonin.
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  Speaker 3: I think they're just not practiced at kissing. So sometimes
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  Speaker 3: her mouth slides upwards and.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's like Daniel and Lisa over there
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  Speaker 1: on ninety day fiance.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like mac and cheese sounds. Oh oh, back.
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  Speaker 1: To seeking sister wife. Yuck.
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  Speaker 3: I liked the glasses, so I'm a little I think
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  Speaker 3: they gave him a Harry Potter and it was kind
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  Speaker 3: of cute. I like their apartment. I was expecting more
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  Speaker 3: word art, right, I only saw three or four pieces,
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  Speaker 3: and I was expecting nine or twenty Yes pieces agree,
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  Speaker 3: and more Jesus. I was expecting more Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: In their place that she lived in last year when
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  Speaker 2: she had a roommate. They much like her prayer closet.
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  Speaker 2: The whole house was covered in sticky notes of affirmations.
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  Speaker 3: M hm, she doesn't need that because she has the
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  Speaker 3: good d now.
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  Speaker 1: She's found this man. So she says moving in together
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  Speaker 1: was so much easier than people made it out to be.
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  Speaker 1: And he says, yeah, I'm truly.
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  Speaker 2: Surprised at how well we've adjusted to living together and
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  Speaker 2: building a home.
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  Speaker 3: That's what they call it the honeymoon period.
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  Speaker 2: Right, And in the kitchen they talk and she's like,
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  Speaker 2: be honest, how is it living with me? And he goes, well,
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  Speaker 2: after ten pm, you're on another level. No, oh, my goodness,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't understand what that minute.
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  Speaker 1: First.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, of course, I'm thinking about myself. After
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  Speaker 2: ten pm, I'm like, I'm in my bed, I'm reading
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  Speaker 2: my care I got my face creams on.
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  Speaker 3: I was thinking about in terms of me, is after
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  Speaker 3: ten pm, I get a surge of energy. And that's
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  Speaker 3: when I've become super productive. Yeah, and I start like cleaning.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, and it's very weird. Last night I was up
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  Speaker 2: till one pint thirty trying to like take notes on
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  Speaker 2: these dummies, trying.
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  Speaker 1: To prove all their bullshit.
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  Speaker 3: So, but they meant boning, they meant doing wild boning.
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  Speaker 2: They talk and they laugh like, well, we definitely still
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  Speaker 2: in the honeymoon phase. And she says there are things
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  Speaker 2: about me that only Zach, my husband, will ever know,
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  Speaker 2: private things, and he says, I've really watered the seed
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  Speaker 2: of curiosity in that realm.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: Oh boy, so bondage Peggingilden showers, No, just juste how girl?
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  Speaker 1: Just no?
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  Speaker 3: A missionary?
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: I think a missionary. I'm thinking she's on top every
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: so often, and I think maybe she's had an orgasm
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  Speaker 1: or two. Yeah, yeah, And so sorry, guys, I'm so
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  Speaker 1: sorry if you're listening in, I'm so sorry. That's I'm
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  Speaker 1: sorry for that. But it's true.
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  Speaker 3: Can water my seeds of curiosity at any time.
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  Speaker 2: Kimberly, how dare you? He's in mynd he's half your age.
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  Speaker 2: I like him. And the producer says, wow, it sounds
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  Speaker 2: like Lydia.
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  Speaker 1: He's saying that you're naughty, and she goes, it's true.
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  Speaker 3: All right, go girl. I love this girl. She's replaced
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: the good book with the good d and I am
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: here for it.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I love it for her. Okay.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: So at the kitchen table, they're talking and she again
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: twenty one.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: She says, I'm really ready to be a mom.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Oh God, and he says, yeah, I know, and this
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: is what they're taught, right, and he's signed this gold.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: He grew up very religious, but not this way.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: And she spread for this like yes, was indoctrinated in
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: her that this was her purpose, right, and she had
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: practiced because she was mothering the other children.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Correct. She was cinda really, cinda really, so she said.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: And he says, yeah.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: But you know, we just got married and we really
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: like to travel and I still have a lot of
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: places I want to go. And she says, we won't stop traveling,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: we just won't do it as much, and we'll have
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: more people to share it with.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: They've married eight months. They decided to wait until twelve
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: months to try for children. You're twenty one, I say,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: wait four years, Wait till you're twenty five.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: I say thirty because I.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Say thirty normally to regular people. Yeah, but for her,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I'm saying twenty five.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah. These young marriages don't now always last, and you're
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: still changing. Your frontal lobe has not even developed. Lydia
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: you have and Zach wants to bang all over the world.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: He has wander life us and lust for your vagina.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: So he wants to bang it out all over the world,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: and I think that would do some missions if you want. Yeah, religious,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: go to Africa, go to China, go all over and
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: like learn.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I think I think that's right. I think that's right.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: So they're saying they want to have one big conversation
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: with the whole family about what happened around the wedding
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: because there has been damage done.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Now, I will.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Play you a clip here of what Ethan said when
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: he first met Zach.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I guess the one thing that I have hesitation of his.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: I think he's gay.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: I guess that's fun.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: That's fun music to go along with that too. That
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: was from season seven, still on my soundboard, and Lydia says,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I have some things I want to say, and we
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: see clips of how horrible they were. Never forget how
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: horrible they were at the engagement, including Micah in stupid
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: fucking Veronica.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: And everybody was horrible. So let's just remember, okay.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: I think I think the producers did Lydia dirty by
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: an Zach by not showing the worst of it. That
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: the clip package they show in it ends with Ethan going, well,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: that's a blue suit or whatever about.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: We're getting there. We're getting to.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: That show everything, show, the burning down, show, the laughing
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: at him at the dinner table, like when they when
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: they bullied him.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Would they bullied him with Isaac and all his redneck
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: hunting buddies and they bullied him.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Yes, there's so many things they should have showed. I
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: could have given them an itemized list, YEP of all
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: of the transgressions and they picked the nicest ones to
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: show bull crap.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: So back at the farm, we see Ethan in his
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: uniform black shirt and UH jeans and he's working on
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: building a barn. Okay, so he says, I was in
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Minnesota and now I'm back in Georgia. I'm staying here
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: at the farm or staying with Dad, depending on what
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I'm working on. Homeless And he says, no, I'm not
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: divorced yet. You know, Olivia is purposely trying to hold
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: me up. She won't let me go. She doesn't want
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: me to move on to anyone else. Olivia has had
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: the same boyfriend for like three years. She could give
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: two flying actual fucks about you. He is not telling
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: the whole story, the whole story that Olivia told us
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: at the end of last season is when they first
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: sat together and did all the paperwork. He refused to
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: put in his financial information because he did not want
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: the government to know what he made because he's anti government.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: So when they turned it all in, it all got
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: kicked back because she had put all information in but
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: he had not. So then after that they just sort
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: of let it go and she was doing her thing,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: he was doing his day. They didn't really care. Then
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: he starts saying, in Tigan, so he gets this lawyer.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: This lawyer has contacted Olivia a lot. But she's, by
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: the way, a world traveler and like it's like a
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: travel influencer now, right, So she's off in Tanzania, she's
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: off here, she's off there, she's in Croatia. She's doing
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: her thing. And every time the guy would get in
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: touch with her, she would say, when I get back
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: to the state, I'll be able to sit down and
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: focus on this.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: She would write him back.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: He would say, I need this information and her want
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: This is what she told me. Her one stipulation is
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: she did not want Ethan knowing her home address, right,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: because we've seen can you blame her totally? That's completely reasonable.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: She the proud boys showing up at their doorstep. She
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: bats allegedly.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Allegedly did not want him or his brothers to know
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: where she lived because they will get in a car
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: and drive twelve hours to come and get you.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: It's been proven did it to Vermonica.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: So because they could not agree to that, that's why
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: it was being held up.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm Okay, So he says.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Tigan, and now we broke up, and uh, I
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: promised I would move to Wisconsin. But there's only so
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: much you could take a promising you'll do something and
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: then not doing it.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Here is his AI pictures. Why does his head look
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: not attached to his body in this picture?
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Why is he wearing Fred Mertz old man pants pulled
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: up past his belly button?
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: His pants are always so high up into his managina
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: like a.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: K K cowboy. Allegedly, So.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Again, he says, teaking got sick of his shit because
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: he'd say he would move to Wisconsin and he never did.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Well, that sounds so familiar. You said you would move
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: and then you didn't. Okay.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: At some point, with like the fourth or fifth girlfriend,
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: he's going to start realizing that he's the problem.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Right, do you might, and also him not being a
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: divorce getting divorced was a problem, but of course he
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: had an attorney for a year. Olivia has ignored the
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: attorney again, not telling the whole story.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: So I do feel like his demeanor is seems more humbled. Okay,
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: as he is not doesn't have this hot girl on
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: his arm anymore. The rage is still bubbling. Oh it's
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: it's there, It's always simmering under the surface. But his
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: outward demeanor is a little more humbled. He is just
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: working on a barn, doesn't have a place to live,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: doesn't have a girl. I think he's a man in
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: need of a purpose. And to him, I might suggest,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Ice agent, do you have a very small penis that
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: you're constantly over goot co'm fensating for? Are you filled
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: with rage at everyone that is different from you? Do
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: you want to wear a mask to cover your flesh
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: colored facial hair that is super unattractive? Ice agent? Wow?
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Moving on, he says it's hard to meet somebody.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to meet somebody.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: When you connect with them, not only on a physical level,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: because you know, Ethan loves to talk about the banging,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: but to be connected on a spiritual and emotional level,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: and it's very hard to move on from that, and
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: he can't walk away wondering if he could have saved it.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: There's unfinished business there, so we'll be seeing more of taken.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: So Micah arrives to visit. Let's see Micah's look here.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: That is just just.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: The This is just not even what he looks like.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: That's not at all what he looks like this season.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: The sassy hands on the hips. He is never made
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: that pose ever in all of his modeling days.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: No, this is pornographer, a professional model. This is not
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: what he.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Looks like hands sassy, hands on hips. No, he's going
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: with the Matthew McConaughey this season, like some sort of
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: rugged cowboy. His hair is giving gorgeous. I would magnificent.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: I need to know his routine. It is flowing and
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: full and to the side in a casual way. Like
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: when you see those girls that push their hair to
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: one side and then it's perfect and there's not one
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: straight and then they push it to the other side.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: It does the same thing.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: How did they do that in this picture?
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: In the in the cast photo, the hair is better.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's also mid walk away from the family tree.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: And he also doesn't have I mean no, I'm no, no,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: we don't like it.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: We don't like it. Okay.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: So Micah arrives. Micah has a real guarded way about
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: him so far.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't you be damaged if you dated Veronica?
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, I got the guy, listen, I will say you
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: know that the it was a bunkie and Amy Archer
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: listener took a picture and put it on Amy Archer's
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Facebook group, and it was a picture of Ethan in
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: his uniform sitting and Micah and the girl playing like cornhole,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: like literally on the beach and Ethan's and like boots
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: of black T shirt and jeens fulled up his ass.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but the girl has curly hair and look
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: to keep from behind.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: That's all I can type.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: So mikel arrives to visit, and he says, I'm coming
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: in town to see the family, but also to grab
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: some of my stuff because I'm still in Florida, but
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: I finally have my own place.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: And he's met a really great girl.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: They're happy, and they're keeping things somewhat private for now,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: and he's evaluating the things that happened in the last
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: few years and he realized he wasn't on the path
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: that he wanted, and now he's just chasing.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: A peaceful life because I think when.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: He was with Veronica, he was really feeling himself and
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: he was just sort of banging willy nilly and didn't
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: respect that relationship much.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't, and that's wrong, and then Veronica should
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: have gone through that either. But I also think there
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: was so much toxicity in that household that he was
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: banging his way to try to get away, to try
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: to sabotage or something because she was.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: She was like, you're not emotionally intelligent, grow a hair.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Like you can't do that to someone's self esteem and
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: then expect them not to lash out in some way
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: or another. And his lashing out, his way of lashing
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: out was bang in. And I do feel bad for Micah.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: I still have hope for Micah. The cheating was horrible,
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: no doubt about that, But like I love that he
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: wants to chase a peaceful life, Like I hope that
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: he can do that. This family tends to not be
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: the opposite of peacefulness.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so Ethan goes let me show you my
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Lacey's gadget. I got me gokart and we'll ride it
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: all the way to Mexico. Look at this gokart? Will
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: you push me? And Mike is like, no, see.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Didn't I found that telling that it wasn't like, Okay,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: big bro, let's get into whatever rambunctious, you know, chaos,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: rage brother stuff you want to do. Let's I'm not
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: into that anymore.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I found it telling as well. Isaaca arrives, Caylin is
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: dropping him off. There they are, I mean. Also, his
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: hair doesn't look this bad as they've made it in
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: this picture.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah. These AI photos are so strange.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but she looks great. Caylen also has like teaking.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Like a lot of extra letters in her name, and
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: he and Kaylen have been together for a year.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: He is twenty, he's sweaty.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: How old is she?
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Okay? I forgot.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Isaac has my same birthday October twenty first, two thousand
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: and five, so he's twenty one. Wow, he's twenty one currently,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: and Lydia will be twenty two currently. She's February fourth,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: two thousand and four, so she just turned twenty two.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: And how old is Kaylin?
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: I don't have Kaylen. I don't have laider than him older.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, she's older. So when she was in school last season?
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Was that college?
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah? College?
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Okay, good Forrid.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: They probably said it on the screen, and I'll make
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: note next time. Let me look, actually, let me scroll down,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: because I have my list from last season. Let's see
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: in I thought they were in high school. I've just
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: got I don't I've got a Teagan and I've got
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I don't have Kitlin on here. Sorry, Kaylin, I believe she's.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Lydia are very close in age.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: They are February fourth to thousand and four October twenty first,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: two thousand and five, and Caylin.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: I believe it's two years older. So if he's twenty one,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: then Kaylin would be twenty three. Again, just the age
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: of my daughter.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: These people are so young.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: So he says, Kaylen and I have been together for
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: a year, and he says about the wedding, there were
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: things about it that made it tense for the family
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: because we felt Lydia was really rushing it and none
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: of us knew Zach well enough. And I didn't want
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: to sit around and watch somebody not treat one of
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: my siblings or my sister. Right, I've been through that before. Okay,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: So okay, Mariah walks up. Okay, let's get Mariah's gorgeous
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: picture here. We're always rooting for Mariah, even though she's
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: not always blas bulb.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: So she walks up and she is in a dirty
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: blonde bob wig. Okay, fuck a dirty bloe.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: I thought she I thought she looked better. Her skin
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: is like translucent, and she does not look like she
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: is dying of consumption.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I can agree with that.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I love Mariah. I love she's working on herself. I
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: love that she's completely moved to Montana, like really far away.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: She's looking healthier, like you said, I miss.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: She's not doing the baby voice, which I find to
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: be such a relief. I'm just a little girl, and
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I just I'm so damaged and that
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: made me. It was just trauma, and it was Yeah,
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: I'm so glad she's speaking normally, like yeah.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Yep, I agree. I missed her blonde hair, but I
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: don't miss that pitch black hair that we just saw.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: So maybe this dirty blonde is a happy.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Meeting in the middle.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she says she has alopecia, and when it's really bad,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: she goes through a period where she has no hair,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: no eyebrows, no lash, does nothing. It all falls out
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: and that she goes and that's just what I deal with.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: And then she goes, I mean, my eyebrows are just
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: stickers and the productions like what and she goes, yeah,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: I found them on the internet. There's stickers. I was like, wow,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: they look really good. They looked very good. Actually I
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have known.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Those were Yeah, her eyebrows really were zooming in or anything.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: She could do brand deals.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: She could be a whig influencer like Monique Love after
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: lock Up.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so she says she's good hook up with
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Rick who sells wigs.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Oh la, yeah, so she says she has four wigs
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: that she's working with that she rotates and everything is
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: wonderful in Montana. She's very happy there. But it feels
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: good to be back to visit.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: You know, for a while the farm felt abandoned because
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: it was a rental and it didn't feel like home.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: But now Mom is back there and it feels like
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: home again because you know, Keen is there. She didn't
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: say that, and she says it's a different it's special,
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: but it's a different kind of special. Being able to
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: come home now. Now I will say that they have
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: moved the furniture around. That makes a little more sense
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: because there's not eleven people in the house now, so
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: they still have an upbraided that kitchen though.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: So I did like the dark painted wall. There's like
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: one wall that starts in the I like that.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: And they have the couch sort of facing out to
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: look at the farm area instead.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Of they were all like in an L shape or
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: they had to make space. They had so many people.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: They are sitting around playing BACKGA like. Of course, of
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: course is there a TV?
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: No?
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, him has one in her bedroom.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Him has one in her bedroom for sure.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the kids have one.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know, absolutely not.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: So Ethan is showing Micah and Mariah how he's completely
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: built this new barn. I mean, you can't say the guy.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, he could have been an engineer. You know,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: he really does know his stuff.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: He could have an accident at any time. I don't
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: there's we don't know if that thing is to code
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: or he oh, proper code makes he's not wearing helmets
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: and things like that. Code No, he.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Kind of inspecter is coming out there. These people don't
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: even have birth certificates. Are you kidding me?
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. So like, let's not give him
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: too much credit because one, you know rowdy boys, you know,
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: dancing around and they hit one of those beams and
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: the whole thing's crashing down.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to give him some credit because he actually
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: does seem like he can like take apart in anything
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: and put it back together.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Yes, but maybe go to it like a trade school
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: and learn like the proper way to use tools and
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: so you're not going to cut off your finger. He
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: didn't need that head learning where those classes are tapped
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: by the government and they need your Social Security number
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: and I don't need none of that.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: When Hoseannah got a full ride for her playing the
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: violin and they said she doesn't need that headlearning, let
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: her go get married, it's fine.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: And yet they're on TV and I'm not and I
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: went to college, so maybe they're right.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: So Mariah kind of jokes around with Micah and normally,
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: I mean these two live together, for you, they are
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: very close, and she looks at MICA's knows he goes
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: let me see your nose, like, did you really have
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: to go to a plastic surgeon? He never cracks a smile,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: he never he never does like he normally does. Was like,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: look at me, I'm gorgeous. You know, he never does that.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: He just goes.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: No, I went to the er that one night.
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: That was it.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: I took the stitches out myself.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: It's fine, And I don't like this. I don't like
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: the sad Micah.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: I don't like it.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: There was this guy on below deck who was a
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: former model, but he talked like this and everything was sad,
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: and he'd be like I did. I was modeling, but
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: I didn't like being judged for only my looks because
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: I have a brain and when people see photos of you,
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: they're not really seeing the real. Okay, fuck off, that
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: trivial world of fashion and photography is not from me.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: I prefer books. And he was so annoying. And is
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: that what we're gonna get from Mecca?
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Do you think Micah prefers books? Okay, no, definitely not.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: But he did say he pulled out his stitches by
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: of course he would. Of course he would. He's not
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: going to go back and pay a doctor.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Pour some kerosene on that and pull them out so
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: has so Micah says, hey, look like I'm tired. I
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: drove all night to get here. I'm going on three hours.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: So what are we doing?
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: What's going on? And Ethan says, well, Lydia and Zach
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: want to come over and have.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: A talk with everybody. I guess about their feelings.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Oh so gay feeling it's okay.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: And Mariah goes, well, that was quite a night looking
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: at her brothers, and Micah goes, look, it was just
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: too many emotions. It got carried away and that's that, Ethan, Oh.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: That's not that.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: No, it's not that.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: You are the one who did the egregious behavior, so
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: you don't get to decide that's that, and the other
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: people need to have moved on.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I also want to show you the picture of the
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: they didn't give the I forget to add it. Oh
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: maybe I forgot to add it, damnit, Dale, I forgot
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: to add it. It was a picture of all the girls,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: the live lef of girls.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, so Ethan says, Lydia and Zach want to talk
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: to everyone. But you know, I have a lot on
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: my mind teaking, and I broke up.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: That's all I can focus.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: On what I'm going through. Not being able to get
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: laid is way more important than those pussies and their feelings.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Because he's gay.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, so Lydia and Zach are headed to the farm.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: The whole family is in town, so it's a good
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: time to address things around their wedding, such as Ethan
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: asking him are you gay? And Lydia says, now, I
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: will say something here, and I'm only going to say
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: it once. Lydia looks very thin, not Mariah than but
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: she's very thin.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I think she's a lot of stress and I hate
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: that for her.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean she's always been thin, but she's more
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: thin now. Yeah. Right, and usually people gain weight during
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: the first year of marriage. Yeah oh yeah, you so see me, she's.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: And crackers and wine every night. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: yeah okay.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: So Lydia says, I want them to know that they
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: hurt us, and they could have gone about their concerns
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: quite differently.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: And they said they did it all because they care,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: But all I felt was hurt, not care.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Now we see a bunch of clips and them shit talking,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Zach shit talking the marriage. We see the proposal problems
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: we see, we don't see, like you just said, half
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: of what was done.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Burning down the engagement, Zach telling him please stop doing that.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now, a big issue.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: And this is why I was up till one thirty guys,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: because I am not letting these people get away with this.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: One of the big issues was that. And I'm trying
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: to pull it up here that they felt Lydia somehow
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: wanted the color green, and Zach said he likes blue.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: He really pops in blue. Kim repeats this story to Ethan,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: who's like, oh my god, this guy at least so gay,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: worrying about his burning he just wear a black T shirt.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's so gay. I don't want to wear a suit.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: And this is a big topic discussion, Kim stirring, stirring, stirring.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: We're gonna have a family meeting talking to everybody in
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: the family about it.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: The mother of this.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: Girl, okay, pitting her children against each other, triangulation, boys' finest,
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: boys will be.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Boys, boys will be boys. And they're just no, this
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: was all her doing.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: But here they show clips of all this, and they
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: show a clip of Ethan saying that.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Guy really does pop in blue.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Is that what he said?
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: No, it is not that.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: What he said was that bastard really pops in blue.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: And I went to the episode last night and found
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: it because I knew.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: He said that bastard.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Why is TLC trying to tell us that he said
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: that guy pops in blue. That's not what he said.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Whoever, the producer that has a hard on for Ethan
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: was gone last season on a sabbatical. They have now
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: come back and they are sugarcoating the whole Ethan story again.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: We had one season where it wasn't sugarcoated, and now
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: it seems to be back where they're going to brush
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: over his nonsense.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: The way that he acted in the anger that he
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: had towards Zach, at the rehearsal dinner, and at the
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: rehearsal and the wedding and the proposal.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: They are acting like that.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Was boys could be boys and this particular thing, would
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: I tell you. When they were doing the clips and
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: they showed eat the scene that guy really pops in blue,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: I paused it. I had my iPad and my laptop.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: This is in bed at one point thirty in the morning,
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: pulled it up, went to Discovery Plus I was like,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: what episode would that be? Okay, it would be the
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: third to last one because the second to last one
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: was the wedding and then the last one was the
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: big family fight with Veronica.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: So I went to it, scroll till.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: I found it. Put this close graptions on and he
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: is making fun of Zach in his blue suit and
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: says that bastard does pop in blue. Stop TLC trying
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: to tell us. He said that guy pops in blue
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: like it was nice.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: No, this every clip they showed was like the nicest
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: possible part of a scene that felt like there was
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: about to be a hate crime committed, and instead they
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: picked like the nicest parts of each scene or just
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: left out the scene completely and it's bullshit. And I
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: pissed about it. And every time they showed a clip package,
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: I was like, are they not? They're not going to
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: show are they not? Why? So get ready to pick
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: us episode one for it. We're not falling for it,
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: fall for it.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I've watched all of this stuff. I'm on my third
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: watch through.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: So I didn't even watch last season, but I listened
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: to Mary Payne talk about it twice, and I know
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: for sure that these clips are bullshit, and I'm pissed
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: about it. I'm so pissed that they didn't show the burning,
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: the teasing around the table where they're all laughing in
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: his face, the sit down talks about it, and we're
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: gonna stir things up. We're going to talk to Lyddy,
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: We're gonna like, no, they should There were so many
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: things they should have shown.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: You remember when Micah laid on the ground and rolled
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: his body and tried to knock Zach over he had
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: to jump over him.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like a bowling ball, Like.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: A bowling ball.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: And the fact that the entire family the night before
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: her wedding pulled Liddy onto a porch of one of
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: the cabins and made Zack sit inside while they explained
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: to her why she should marry this guy.
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: The next day, why didn't they show the fucking clip
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: of Ethan pulling out of the wedding, putting like dust everywhere,
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: like a freaking yeah, going off to a clan rally
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: like allegedly sorry, but like I couldn't think of a
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: better metaphor of someone driving off really fast on a
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: dirt road.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: When you listen to Amy Archer and Ice recaps, which
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: is on prime of season seven, and every episode when
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: anybody is like running off really late, we're always like
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: they're late to a meeting, a man's club meeting. They're
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: late to the meeting of the men's club.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Like they got a guy. No, you said hate club,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: hate hair crime clubait fait, that's what we said. It's
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: seven thirty. They got to get started. They got a
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: lot of hate crimes to get. All jokes, all alleged.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, So Kim says, Zach and Lytier are coming and
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: I'm a little bit dreading it. Now, let's just take
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: that this is your daughter, mm hmmm, and you say
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: they're coming, and I'm a little bit dreading it. Let
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: me tell you what I'm dreading. I'm dreading your sensible
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: sandals and your leggings.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Get the fuck out of here.
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: Ugh.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: And that same hairstyle, the same makeup that is not evolved,
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: even as you've aged that that top that she's wearing
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: with the patterns in the scene, I can't the whole thing.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: I hate. I hater her. She makes miskain and crawl
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: a hater Barry, You're kind of a zaddy and I'm
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: here for it. Okay, Well, even though I think you
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: might have people tied up in your basement.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say Barry's a lot better, but he he
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: has played this exactly right, perfectly.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Yes, So.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: She's like Rob on Traders, where you have you like,
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: don't like it, you think it's despicable, but you're like,
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: it's brilliant at the same time, and I have to
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: tip my hat doing it perfectly.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Barry, Rob's a lot better to look at. So well,
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Kim says, Zack and Lydia are coming in. I'm dreading
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: it a little bit. That's your kid, but okay, I
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: know they're coming here wanting an apology. I have mixed
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: feelings about that because I am sorry that a lot
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: of things happened.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: The way they did. Not an apology.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: No, I am sorry that a lot of things happened
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: the way they did, but I'm not sorry that we cared.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Girl.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Stop.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: You had eight months to come up with this is
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: your reasoning for acting that way because you cared.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: They all had a Google spreadsheet going an email chain,
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: and they decided that their talking point was we didn't
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: do it in the best way, but it was done
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: with love because we cared. Me burning down your engagement
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: party was because we cared right, so good they all.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: So they're all saying, yeah, we just care. We maybe
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: didn't do it the best way, but we cared. Kim.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Kim is spreading her hate and gaslighting the little tall
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: girls in the kitchen by saying, like, you know, we've
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: all moved on, and like Lydia really hasn't. Like if
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: Lydia's fault, she hasn't moved on even though we've moved on.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: You need to.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Evaluate how you've raised this family that they are not
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: allowed to feel any emotions and so it all comes
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: out as anger and they felt uncomfortable with whatever. Like
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: Isaac felt trauma from the previous boyfriends that have come
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: in and done Mariah dirty, so he was lashing out
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: at Zach. No one was intellectually thinking enough to realize
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: that's what's happening, so came out his anger. Ethan is
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: a homophobic piece of shit, so that just came out
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: his anger because he can't deep down acknowledge his own
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: maybe gay feelings. I don't know it's going on with him. Allegedly,
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: Micah was just a bruised and battered little boy from
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: living with Veronica and cheating and being an asshole. I'm
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: not just you know, and he just went along with
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: the older boys. That's how I lay it, I sus
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: and so Kim, this is all your fault. You encouraged
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: the Smash Brothers, your cute little pyro boys over there,
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: and to not feel or discuss any emotions, and so
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: it all came out as rage.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, and because I am on the rewatch over on
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: Prime with Keisha, we were an episode three and is
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: it is I mean sorry, season three and it is
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: so much of Ethan saying, you know, I can't express myself.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know how to talk about my emotions.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: And every time Olivia says do you want to talk
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: about it, He'll say, no, you know, I don't know
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: how to do that.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: It all comes back to baby Joshua and they were
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: not allowed to discuss and so the anger just started
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: to bubble and bubble.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: So in the kitchen, the three little girls who were
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: super tall, now yeah, little tall girls, little tall girls.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: And Cassia says, last night, so remember there's Amber, who
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: is the oldest of the tall girls, and then there's Cassie,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: and then there's Mercy. Mercy looks exactly like a young Mariah.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: By the way, which one is the one with.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: The Cassie is the one with the eye that got hurt.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: Which could be fixed. I have no doubt they the
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: girl Amy on one thousand pounds sisters is getting surgery
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: and they're fixing stuff that she was told she was
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: going to be blind her whole life. She's never driven
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: a car. She has people who have to drive her around,
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: even though she has two little kids. They're fixing all
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: of that because her fucking mom never took her to
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: the doctor.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: M hm.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: That's also an IBLP thing, just to never go to
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: the doctor, right, So Cassie says, last night Lydia called
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: and we asked, can me and Mercy, the two youngest sons,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: can me and Mercy be part of the conversation you're
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: going to have today? And she said she did not
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: see a need for it. So Amber was of all
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: because she was Lydia's maid of honor and she's a
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: little older. Amber was born in two thousand and nine
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: February of two thousand and nine, seventeen.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: I can't do them, yeah on that, So Kim.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Says, well, she's Kim is saying this that these three
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: daughters about the other one, which is what she does.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: And she said, and Lydia has said, I do not
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: want these two younger kids to be part of this toxic,
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: stressful conversation.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Let's keep talking about it.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: So Kim is going to brainwash them since they're not
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: allowed at the meeting.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Right, she says, I'm nervous about their expectations. You know,
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: anything said and done before the wedding was coming from
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: a place of love and concern.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: False. Give that sound cute for a lie, because that's
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: a full on lie.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Shoot, I didn't have it ready.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well it was a lie, okay, Kim says.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Aber says, yeah, you know with the.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Timeline, you know, with them getting engaged and married so fast,
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: you know, there are crazy people out there, and it's
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: too bad.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: You have to question everything, but you do so.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Oh so that's another thing they were coming up with
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: that they were concerned he was crazy. So that's another
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: reason that they.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: Because because Lydia decided to get married so fast, again
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: placing all the blame on Lydia, even though Ethan and
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: Olivia got married fast, even though I'm sure Hosannah got
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: married fast.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: They they did, and Olivia did not get married fast.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: They courted for like two years. Oh God forbid them.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: But but but indifferent. One was in Virginia and one
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: was in fact Georgia.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: So they never spoke. They were allowed to write letters.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: So Kim says, Yeah, you know, all of us have
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: moved on and accepted Zach as a brother in law,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: as his brother, as a son, as a son in law.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: He's part of the family.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Middle name right, including Ethan and Isaac and Micah. But
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: I just feel like Zach and Lydia have not been
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: able to move on.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Ma'am.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: You are fucking delusional. I have never, in my mind
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: hated somebody so much.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: How have you accepted him in the family like a son?
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: What have you? Have you ever spent a dinner with him?
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: Have you ever called him on the phone and spoken
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: to him? Is this the first time you're seeing him
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: since the wedding. Yes, you've accepted him in your heart
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: as a son, and so has Ethan.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Isaac and Micah. And you're speaking, But.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: Lydia is supposed to know telepathically that you have welcomed
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: him with love into the family. You've been a conversation
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: told her that now, but she is supposed to have
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: moved on and know this.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, my rage in all caps here is, ma'am, your
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: delusional Lydia is your child and was your puppet and
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: your favorite child for me years because she did your bidding.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: And the fact.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: That you don't think this girl deserves a full apology
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: from each and every one of you just shows your
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: level of narcissism. Go get a pinut colata and sit
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: your ass down.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: Fucking mm hmmm mm hmm.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, Lydia says, I've been angry and upset with my family,
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: and I've cried myself to sleep so many nights. And
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: Zach says, it took us a long time to get
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: to the point where we think we're going to be
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: able to have this conversation with the family, and she says, yeah,
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: I really wanted to be sure I knew exactly what
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: I wanted to say without being too emotional. It took
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: me eight months. I'm not ashamed of that. Now here's
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: something that I'm going to point out to you. They're
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: in a confessional together. The girl is in a belly shirt.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, that is belly's skin and armskin and
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: shoulder skin with no bra.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Look at her.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: She is blooming and blossoming in him. She's amazing.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: Go girl.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: I could not believe the belly shirt.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: In front of a cross.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: In front of a cross, she's wearing a belly shirt.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: I'm so wept when he saw that beautiful belly skin.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: He showed his belly all the time on that cross.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: He sure did so just kidding.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Guys don't come at us all right, Lydia says, they
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: already hate me. Lydia says, some of the things my
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: family said made me realize they don't know me. Yeah,
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: and that's hard to say about your family.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: And I don't know. Maybe it's because I'm.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: A middle child, but I've always felt overlooked, a second thought,
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: and I felt that on my wedding day. When she
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: says she feels overlooked and a second thought, she is
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: not wrong. All they looked at her as all the
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: other kids looked at her as the snitch with if
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: you listen to that on Kristen Super on TikTok, she says,
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: one child is designated the snitch and her family was
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: the middle her, it would look right at her and go,
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell mom and dad, and she'd be like,
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: please don't, but that child has an obligation.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Lydia was that child.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Olivia told me that she felt bad she didn't give
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Lydia more of a chance, but she was told Lydia
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: is the snitch. So she says, I felt overlooked a
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: second thought. And as we all saw in the earlier seasons,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: Mariah is older than Lydia and was always supposed to
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: be helping in the kitchen and refused, and Lydia had
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: to do everything.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: So she didn't get that quality bonding time with the
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: other siblings, playing out on the farm or just being
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: kids because she was in the kitchen.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: In the kitchen, yeah, or in her.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: Prayer closset rubbing one out.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: Well that was in the second house. Okay.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: So she says, I need this conversation. I need it
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: to be able to move forward. It is a step
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: that I need to take for me. So in the car,
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: Zac says, all right, so what do you want to
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: address with your mother? And she says, I need to
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: talk to her her about the fact that you said
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: you're controlling and you took over what I wanted for
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: the wedding, but Kim didn't even know what I wanted
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: for the wedding. I never said I wanted Hunter green.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: We get the clip of Kim saying she always wanted
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: Hunter green and Zach wanted blue because his pops in blue,
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: and then we see the clip of them together saying
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: we decided on blue for the wedding. Blue has always
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: been our favorite color, and blue is a great color.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: And in Lydia is wearing blue on the way to
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: the farm.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: Zach says.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Zak says, she was the bride, and yeah, I said
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: I liked blue, but at the end of the day,
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: she was the bride.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: She has a better eye for these things.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: I let her make the decisions. I don't know where
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: that came from.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: That has to hurt, just those little things like that,
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: your your mom doesn't know what your favorite color is. Well,
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: Barry has bonded over Monty Python last season, so it's
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: like they he always has something that he knows about her.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: Barry all made it.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: Perfectly, played it perfectly.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: We don't like Barry, but you know brilliant Lydia says,
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: you should know your daughter before you make accusations like that.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Now I would like to harken back to when Lydia
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: and Zach went on one of the Dugger Girls podcasts,
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: The Dugger is a Dougger Okay, ginger with a J.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, they're all with a J.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: And it was very telling and one thing that she
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: said that I will never forget when they she said
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: my mother left the family when I was sixteen.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: She didn't say my parents got separated. My mother left
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: the family, and her mother left the family and went
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: and moved in with Ken.
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think the mom emotional Kim emotionally left
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: when Joshua died and took to the bed. Yeah. And
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: then she left her with her vices and had candy
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: in bed while the other kids were living their lives.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: That's right to the bed a long time ago.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: So now we get a fake out a Barry pretended
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: to be driving a boat and yelling I'm King of
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: the world, because Barry is, if nothing else, the corniest cornus.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Mofo out there.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah mm hm.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: So Kim comes out, what are you doing?
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: And then he goes, hey, I never got a tour
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: of this boat. She never lived on that boat. She
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: never lived on the boat she was living with Ken.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: They never broke up. Don't believe it.
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, I thought bat was the house boat. That's the
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: same boat.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: Then that is the same boat. That is he That
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: is her boat. And if you would have looked at
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: the whole thing, you could have seen like the back little.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: Porch air and you could go okay, okay. And Barry says,
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: what are you going to do with this? She says, oh,
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: Micah bought the boat. I gave him a good price,
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: and he's going to fix it up and sell it.
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: So Kim says, she needs to live on the boat
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: and go sailing around the world and grow his beard
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: really long. But some like a sailor out at the sea.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: Can you just see that?
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: Just so hot.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: So Kim says, Barry and I are on good terms now,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: and I've told him I'd like for him to call
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: before he shows up. I don't want to look out
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: the window and see him there, and then he might
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: see something he doesn't want to see.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: I'm sexy, now, get the fuck?
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Gross, And no one wants to picture you and
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: Ken doing it.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: She just it's so much sexual innuendo always with Kim,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: with Ethan and the horrible things that Ethan said to
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: Lydia when she was on her honeymoon about putting cream
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: and the croissant, like they're.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: Disgusting, No they are. And then they accuse gay people
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: or drag you know people are trans people of whatever,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: being sexual deviance or whatever. And you are making these
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: jokes in front of your children and sexualizing them at
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: a young age.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: It's gross.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: Very and Kim last season when they had like a
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: dinner with Lydia and Zak, like even they were together
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: in a talking head, made making sexual jokes about Lydia
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: and Zach. And let's also recall Kim said to Ethan
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: at I think.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: At the rehearsal or it was the.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Engagement, said to Ethan, I mean, you know they want
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: to get married just so they could fuck.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: That is your daughter, No, they tip, just the tip
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: jokes about it.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, this is your daughter, and this is how
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: you've raised her to not kiss before her.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Wedding and then you make fun of it. Okay mm hmm,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: you guys, Okay.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: So it's a sexual repression that leads to all of
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: this weird.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: Dugger situation that we're dealing with currently, correct. Okay, Barry says, well,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: this is the first time the family used together since
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: the wedding eight months. And I know how Zydia, Zydia,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: Lydia and Zach are feeling around her.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: What's their names, Zydia.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: I didn't mean to, It's just because I wrote initials
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: herees So okay, I know how Zidia, we're feeling around
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: all the wedding stuff right when they got home from
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: their honeymoon in Europe.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: And I understood.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: I understood how deeply Lydia felt that hurt and that pain,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: and my Rolla's father is to be validating to her.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: And I know that I validated her more than any
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: of the boys. Uh huh or Kim.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: Yep, he's putting a gold star right on his chest. Sorry,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: not in like a Jew Holocaust way, but in like
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: a kindergarten Yeah, like a little sticker, like he is
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: patting himself on the back. The short episode and I
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: loved it. Go for it, Yep, your buff shoulders at yourself.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Zach and Lydia drive up. They sit in the car
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: and have a moment, and she just she loves to
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: stare at him lovingly. She's just always is gazing at him, and.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: She's like love you. He goes, okay, I love you.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: She's we got this. He's like we got this and
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: they sit in the car.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: He's like, can we go?
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, so they get out. Why is he just in
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: like a white T shir or like an undershirt? Oh
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: that was interesting. It wasn't like a structured T shirt.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: It was just like an undershirt.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: Huh. Maybe he's trying to be more masculine. He won't
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: be called a homo.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So Lydia is like, I have to hug Mariah first.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, this because they used to be so close.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: And then everyone says hello, and of course like Isaac
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: and ethern, I there go hug your brother in law
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: like being dis.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: Won't even look him in the eye, and they do
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: like the most half hearted like a man.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Kim says, you know, Ken is here, but he's
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: gonna stay inside working on the cheat box.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: We don't need to hear from Ken.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: But he says, I heard both sides of the story,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: and I'm just gonna hang out with the dogs and
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: avoid all that drama.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, so I avoid drama unless a black person
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: tries to use the wrong water Fountain allegedly okay, moving on.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: Date with Dateline is Kimberly's podcast. That's where you can
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: find her on Instagram for any of these comments. Okay,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: Barry says. Barry says, it's it's weird the Kens at
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: my house that I used to be head of the
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: household of.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: But what do you say? Weird is the new norm?
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: I'm Barry, I'm just wacky dad.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: Okay, when is he going to date someone? He needs
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: to get on the apps.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: I would like everyone to go directly now, when you're
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: done with this, go to my Instagram or TikTok and
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: please see the me watching the trailer and my live
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: reactions to Barry dating journey that we're going.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: To be seeing.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: Really yeah, I'm so excited.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: So they keep saying, wow, this is the first time
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: we've had all the siblings here. All the siblings are here.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: All the siblings are here. Okay again, Hosannah is still
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: alive and with us.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: Like, well you major choice.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Sorry, major choice, No TLC money for you. So the
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: producer for the Best for she lives in Ohile. So
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: producer talks to Kim and goes so Kim they're here.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: Are you going to apologize? And she goes, I don't know,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: you know, let's deflect. I'm more concerned about Ethan because.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: He's a hot head and I don't know how to wait.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know how he got that way.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: I take no responsibility on how he was raised where
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: he's repressed feelings that comes out in anger and Asashony,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: Ethan is a hothead, so I sure hope he stays calm.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: Boys will be boys, so he might rip his brother's
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: nose off. We don't know what's going to happen.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: Okay. It's like she's the aunt of Vladimir Putin and
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: she's like, oh, you know, Vladdie, he's just crazy. He's
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: just he has like anger, but he's so sweet if
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: you get to know him. But like God, sometimes he
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: sees red and like, what are you gonna do? It's
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: just who he is.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? He's gonna take down a
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: neighboring country. You know, boys will be boys, Poodie, so Lydia.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: Lydia starts talking and she goes, Okay, I know it
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: was quick for Zach and I to get married, And
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: I knew it was a quick turnaround for you guys
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: to get to know him.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: But having said that, some of you chose to get
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: to know him.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 5: Mm hmmm.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: Would I tell you? They zoomed in on Berry so fast.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: He's doing a full on like this, like me, oh
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: you mean me? Yeah I did, I was great and
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: number one day he should have been wearing a number
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: one dad shirt totally totally number and then also holding
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: a mug. What yeah, number one dad.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And some of you made your judgments. And then
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: they go right to this.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: Guy yep, who's not making eye contacts and daring out
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: into space thinking about Teagan's boobs and all he can
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: think about as usual.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: Well, he has an insulated cup that he's drinking from
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: and we know what's in there, Bourbon. Okay, So he's
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: looking off, she says. And I know you guys care,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: and it would be amazing if there was a way
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: for you to show that care to my husband, Zach,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: and if you see that our relationship is good, it
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: would be nice to see.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: That effort from all of you.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: And Zach says, And if there are concerns and questions
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: or anything you want to talk to me about, you know,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: I'm open to that in the talking head, Zach says,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: I don't have any pain from what they did to me.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: It's more than they did it to me, and that
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: hurt her. I'm trying to lift her up because I
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: know what she's doing here is right. And Zach says,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: we're open books and I would really love to be
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: a part of the family.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: Why so.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: Lydia cries and says, I didn't want to cry, but
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: I want all of you to know that the way
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: we were readd the night before our wedding, it was
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: supposed to be a joyful time, but the way we
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: were treated on my last night as a plath was
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: the hardest night of my life. Micah says, I wish
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: I had a picture of Michael here. It looks so hot,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: but I don't, Michah says. Michael says, Lydia, I felt
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: first one to speak up, first one, Michah, first one
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: say anything before her own mother.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, who's sitting there, stone faced, watching her daughter, who
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: has been her slave her whole life. Yep, cry in
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: front of her. NARC's gonna narcissism.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: But now Lydia's But Lydia's not her puppet anymore.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: So Micah says, Lydia, I felt awful and in hindsight,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: and I can't speak for everyone, even though most of
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: what was done and it wasn't done in the best way,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: but most of it was looking out for your best interests.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: We all care about you a lot. I was wrapped
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: up in a lot. And he's trying to say, like
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: I got wrapped up in the boys of it all
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: and and.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: The Veronica.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was wrapped up in a lot, and it's
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: not an excuse. I should have been there for you
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: more than I was. Okay, So we don't have a
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: housewives apology here. We don't have it if I hurt you. Correct,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: we have a it's not an excuse. I should have
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: been there for you more than I was. And she says,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: but you still dance with me, and he said I did,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: and that means a lot.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: Her expectations are so low and so low they are
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: still not meeting them as a family.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: And he says, in hindsight, Zach, you're a great guy,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: and you seem like a great fit for each other.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: But I met you two hours before you proposed to
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: my sister, and so there was just a lot of
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: stuff that went on, and Lydia under her breath goes,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: that wasn't ideal, right, Yeah, So in the talking head,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: Mica says. Micah says to the camera, there was a
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: lot of tension with my brothers, and I can only
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: imagine how difficult it.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: Was for Lydia and Zach and Zach especially mm hmm.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: So Isaac says Isaac second went to speak.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: Uh huh, still know Kim still no.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: Oldest, oldest, no oldest boy, no mother. Isaac says.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: People do act differently under pressure, and that is mainly
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: what I was feeling was pressure. I felt the whole
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: thing was rushed, and seeing other relationships where people came
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: into the family really fast like that was a thing
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: that stuck in my head.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: I do want to apologize to both of you for
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: things that I've done.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: Not if I do want to apologize to both of
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: you for things that I've done that may have been
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: good intentions but came out the completely wrong way. Yeah,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: not if I hurt your feelings. I'm apologizing for what
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: I've done. Okay, boom two good apologies mm hmm, And
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: then talking to head to Isaac goes, yeah, I mean,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: looking back on it. I could definitely see certain times
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: I acted like a total idiot. Okay, great, Kim says, well,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: I mean you keep saying we have things against you
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: or whatever. I don't have things. I don't think any
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: of us do. From the minute you said I do,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: it was done. I'm one hundred percent supportive of you,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: and I see you as a son, a son in law,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: a part of the family.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: That is not an apology.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: Where's your apology, bitch?
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: She doesn't have one?
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: And music gets all dramatic.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, it does not love the music was so this
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: was like succession level music on this.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: Episode, and the talking head Berry goes, you know, so far,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: I'm seeing more healing with Micah and Isaac than with Kim.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: There's just a conversation that needs to happen between Lydia
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: and Kim. There's a lot to unpack, and it goes
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: deeper than the wedding. It goes into the realm of
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: when the divorce happened and things like that, and there's
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: a healing that is needed there.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: Ethan says, well, all the concerns that everybody voiced, whether
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: it was to you in private or whatever, like whether
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: we went about it in the right way or the
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: wrong way? That time is passed now. No, you're both
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: a part of the family now. What Lydia already part
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: of the family. What do you mean you're both a
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: part of the family.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: She already said she felt othered and ignored her whole life,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: and now you're welcoming her to the family.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: He says, whether we went about it in the right
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: or way.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: Lauren, what is it Leona? Which is nice to meet you?
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: Welcome to the flats?
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: Like he says, that time is passed now and you're
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: both of you are part of the family now. And
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: he says, I'm very happy to see you both doing well.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: And I am sorry if anything I did hurt you,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: and I know it did, so I apologize for that.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: There we go, he got there, here, you got there, Ethan,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: all those years that therapy that Olivia made you go to,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: you got there. And Lydia and Zach just go yep, Okay.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: What they're noticing here is everyone has gone around and
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: said they're sorry for their part, except for the mother.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: And the talking head. Ethan goes.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: Before the wedding, I was just saying what I saw
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: and what I felt, just like Isaac and Michael were.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: We were just encouraging Lydia not to rush into anything,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: especially not knowing what their physical attraction is. None of
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: your fucking business. And he continues, I don't think there's
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: anything wrong with checking yourself and saying to.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: Others, do you see what I see? But he's gay? Right?
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: But I certainly could have been nicer and gone about
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: it in a better way. Okay, I mean it's thought,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: that's fat a lot for him. Yes, that's a lot
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: for him. It could have been way more, but that's
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: a lot for him, So zach Si, if.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: I was honestly, if I was Lydia, first of all,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: I would have had a clip package put together myself.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: I would have made them all watch it, and I
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: would have paused after each scene and then expected an
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: individual apology from each one for each thing that happened,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: burning down the engagement, telling him he's gay, snickering at
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: the table, everything. I would have had a list of
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: specifics on a board like I was in Congress, trying
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: to like, and I would check each time they apologize.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: For one, I'd be like, why are you sorry?
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: What were you do?
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: How were you coming from love? In this time when
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: you start tried to start a fire.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: And don't forget when Kim stood in the kitchen with
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: the Ambra Costimercia that when she's in the kitchen with
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: them talking about Ethan, she goes, Ethan's having a hard
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: time with because you know, Ethan is really masculine and
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: Zach's not that way. So she's telling her younger children
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: that it's better to be this way than that way
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: and then to be sensitive.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: So what you should for is someone like Ethan.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: Mm hm.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: So Zach says to Ethan, it's awesome to have you
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: back here and have more time than with you. It's
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: closer than Minnesota.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: Nice. Nice. He doesn't mean it, but it's nice.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: Don't hate crying me.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And talking to Zac, says it's nice to hear
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: Ethan apologize. He had a big piece of the pain
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: and hurt that was caused. Yep, I won't call it
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: water under the bridge, just forgiveness for owning up to
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: some of the things he did wrong.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: And I gotta say sidebar. When Zack has this sweatshirt
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: on and a little scruff m, it's kind of cute.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: Little maybe a touch of Joshua Jackson who is my boyfriend,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: my number one boyfriend. I mean, he's no Joshua Jackson,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: but he's trying.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: I got to tell you something. I think if he
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: did a beard, it would really elevate.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: Real men grow facial hair, even if it's flesh colored
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: and translucent like mine.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: It clearly he can't grow a beard, so he could
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: be real man too.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, So Barry says, well, it's good to clear the air,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: and Lydia says, and Dad, I don't know if I've
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: told you this enough, but thank you for all your support.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, Barry could not have dreamed of a
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: better moment.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: Barry's like, well, you know I got you, girl, So.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry I didn't hear. Could you repeat that, Lydia.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: I don't think your mom heard you say that.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: I know you're talking very low at the table for
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: the people in the back.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: So in the talking Kim goes, of course, it feels
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: like a jab at me. At least Dad was supportive
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: because Mom wasn't. But she was feeling all that support
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: because Barry just rubber stamped the Zach relationship and didn't
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: ask any questions about anything. And by the way, when
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: I went to look back when I was trying to
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: find that clip of what Ethan said, there were a
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: lot quite a bit of her bashing on Barry for
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: just agreeing. Well, Barry spent a lot of time with
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: the two of them, a lot. He would come to
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: town and stay at the house. He stayed with them
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: with Barry two weeks for the wedding. Barry spent a
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: lot of time with them, so he knew their relationship,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: and Kim didn't give a fuck to find out.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: They exactly like what Lydia said. They didn't want to
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: get to know him. They wanted to judge and pass
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: the judgment immediately. But yeah, and then what I would like.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Barry says, listen, when you're just getting to
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: know somebody, you can tell. And I could just tell
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: with Zach that Lydia had found something really good. And
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: I wish I could have exported that to everyone. You
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Get that computer reference, export those
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: files ow to everyone. But in the process of getting
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: to know Zach and seeing who he really is, gave
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: me that piece. Yeah, they're meant for each other.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: I wish I could export some of my good parenting
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: into some of the other parents at this table. Oh, Kim,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: you're the only parent at the aple Kim so in.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: The talking head Kim makes fun of him. Well, I
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: just had a piece from the beginning.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: And I supported him the whole time, and just let
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: me polish by halo a little bit.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: He's loading, buff Halo, she says.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: He's loading a little bit.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: And I feel like I don't get any credit for
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: really caring who she spent her life with. Girl, you
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: don't give a flying fuck. You only care that your
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: housemaid was gone.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the girl who had done followed every bit
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: of your preaching sided with her dad when you left
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: to go live in sin with a man that sells
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: Civil War memborabilia, if you know what I'm saying.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: Okay, And drunk drive after you had a baby die
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: while you were behind the wheel.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: Of a car, and drunk drive flipped your car into
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: a ditch because you had two indy Peanut Clauda is
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: trying to go over to get a bang from Ken
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: when you had told had completely shinned Olivia and Ethan
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: for having one beer.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I forbid Lydia chooses a different side than your side. Yeah.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: The talking head Zach says from the beginning, and this
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: is where we get Zach looking cute again. So unclesten.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: I'm because when you look cute, you look cute. We
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: got to give it to you.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the talking head, Zach says, from the beginning, Barry
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: was a very trusting person in me, and I appreciated that.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: And Kim has not done that. I think there's a
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: lot to figure out. And I've seen too many tears
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: from Lydia to know or think everything is gonna be okay.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: Oh yes, yes, listen, it was weaker than it could
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: have been because I if I was Lydia, I would
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: have had a list because when you go into a
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: conversation like this, your emotional people say things and it
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: throws you off your game. Yes, and you you might
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: have a list prepared in your head, you need to
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: have written it down in a letter and read it
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: to them.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: I would have it like on my notes app on
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: my phone. I would have bullet points so I can
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: make sure. And but that just reminds me so much
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: because we have to always bring things back to Bravo.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: On the Salt Lake City Reunion, when Lisa leaned over no,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: Meredith leaned over to Lisa and goes, did I hit
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: all my points? Yeah, because she had in her mind
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: like I'm going to hit all these points and I
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: can't pull out my actual list, but I have like
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: I want to make sure I'm hitting these five points.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: That's what Lydia should have had.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about these particular events where you were
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: slamming him.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was seen on camera. Imagine because we on.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: Camera exactly, we have the benefit of looking back in hindsight,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: being part of conversations that we were not there for,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: so we I know what you all have been saying,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: and you're right what was not seen on camera. And Kim,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: you were stirring things up, Ethan, you were so disrespectful
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: and it just blows my mind. And I would have
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: had a video proof. I would have had a slideshow presentation,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: and I would have gone through my letter and then
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: be like press play and then we watched the scene
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: and then I talk about the next one.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, easily could have pulled together a clip package.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: She could have called her her producer and be like,
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: I've never asked one thing. If you have only only
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: been the most perfect person ever, if you loved me,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: at all ever in this ten year journey, will you
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: please put together clip package? Yeah, well that's it now.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: If there were scenes for next week, I did not
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: see them because I was watching on the screener. But
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: again I tell you, go to Pink Shape pod Pink
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: Shape podcast on TikTok and Instagram and you can see
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: me reacting live to the trailer they put out, which
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: does talk about the entire season.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: And what else do we have besides Barry dating? Which
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: is enough for me. I'm so excited.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: We have very dating.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: We have Ethan trying to win Teak and back, we
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: have something Isaac does something and Kaylin says, you know,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: I don't stand for any full cryp. He says, I'm
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: so sorry that I hurt you. Oh my god, I'm
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: gonna tell you somethings seen.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: A lot, and he, you know, is the oldest of
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: the live left love when all the divorce.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: And stuff starts happening, and he went from being completely sheltered,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: never allowed to have any technology whatever to getting a phone,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: having his own car, his mother buying beer for him
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: and his friends.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: Allegedly.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: I heard that Kim was all of a sudden like
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: cool bomb yep, where she shunned Ethan and Olivia from
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: the family for drinking a beer at age twenty one
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: at for.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: Using the wrong toothpaste brand because it has demons in it.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: The demons are in that because it will get into
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: your spinal column and give you Alzheimer's.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: That was also sad that the same bitch is out
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: drunk driving and starting a dance studio.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: Again.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: I say, get your peanuckle, lotta sit down, shut up,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: and if you can't come correct, she can't. This is
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: and this is what I told Dave last night. He
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: has no idea what I'm talking about, but I was
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: so angry about them putting a lip up. That guy
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: really does pop in blue When he said that, bastward,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: I was so mad about it, and Dave was sitting
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: there and I was like, let me.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: Tell you something, This one is such an artist. Da
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: da da, He goes well.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: I thought we were talking about the gas say and
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: my ship pops and Blue I put.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: I was so I couldn't sleep last night. I could
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: not sleep.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: I kept thinking about kim Plath and how mad I was,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: and I absolutely cannot watch any of this.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: Within four hours of bedtime.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's too stressful. It's like watching a scary movie.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: It's like watching hostile and then try to go to bed. No,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: you can't because also those under eye liner drunk panda
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: will haunt you dreams and you're gonna be a you know,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: like when a dog is having a nightmare and it's
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: like running or trying to like yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: you're going to be in your dreams like trying to
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: punch somebody in the face. Punch Kim in the face.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: I have to fild myself to bed early tonight and
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: I have to just start reading in my book, like
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: two hours aheads on, only have the book.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: In my mind.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: Kimberly has recommended a book called The Favorite Sister. I
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: haven't started it yet. I'm reading my other one, but
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: I did download it onto my kindle.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: Yay, Yeah, you guys. That's it.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: Do you think our rage was high because it's not
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: going to get any better?
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: No, I think it's I'm like my throat hurts a little,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: which means I was screaming. But I think I could
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: have been more rageful. I think if if I hadn't
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: covered Thank god, I didn't cover last season, if I had,
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  Speaker 3: I was so rage listening to you and Amy that
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: I raged myself out. So I know if this season
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: could be any worse than last season.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: It definitely can't. Now we hope we're hoping on like
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: building some relationships back. But I feel from this picture
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: that they've given us.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: That walking away from the tree. Yeah, yeah, it's.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: Very I also was thinking about this when I couldn't
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: go to bed. The symbolism Barry is walking away with
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: his back to everyone but looking.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like he's walking away from the show, and.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: Then he then just looks stupid, and then it looks
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: like Mariah. They could have also done Mariah with her
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: back and looking back she lived somewhere else.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: They had wearing red like the scarlet letter because she's
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: the slut of the group allegend, that's what they say
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: about her.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that, not anymore, because last season she
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: came back. Well, I think it's probably in season six
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: she came back around as Kim's puppet. Mariah is season six. Yeah,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: And when I talked to Olivia in one of my
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: interviews of which I have several up. If you guys
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: want to go find those. When I talked to Olivia,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: I asked.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: Her what was that about?
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: Because they were so horrible, I mean, kicked Mariah out
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: at sixteen, like because she wanted to wear a tank
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: top basically, And what was that about?
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: That? Now you know Mariah is seeking him for comfort
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: and all this, And.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: Olivia said, you know, in a situation like this, the
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: mother will always choose what choose whatever child serves her best.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: And because Mariah was needing that motherly comfort, that child
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: was serving her best at that time, and now it is.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: It was Ethan last season. I think now she's trying
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: to lean into Ambracassie Mercy.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: Right because they can be her little puppets dance for me, dance.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: She's spreading her seeds of discontent. And I think the
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: one thing that was hard for me to understand was
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: Mariah wanting to go back to the family after they
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: had shunned her. And that was so hard for me
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: to understand because logically it just doesn't make sense to me.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: And I read it actually helped me out because I
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: read a lot of people's their life stories with narcissistic mothers,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: and no matter how or drug abuse mothers, whatever, abusive,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 3: like you still deep. It's like a core thing that
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: you yes, your parents love and approval, so you keep
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: coming back and forgiving and wanting that relationship even though
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: it doesn't serve you at all, and no matter the
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: wrongs that they've done, and that's so sad.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: And Olivia also said when Mariah sort of came back
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: to religion a little bit, I was like, that seems
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: very weird, and she said she's Olivia has seen it
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: with many of her own siblings. She said, you sometimes
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: you do just go back to what is known and
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: the devil. You know you don't, right, Yeah, you went
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: out in the real world. You had a rum spring
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: that scared you, and it scared you, and so now
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: you're going to go back even though you know this
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: was terrible and you were trying to escape it, this is.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: What you know, so it's comfortable. Yeah. Yeah, boy, oh boy.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: I do recommend you guys watching that TikTok. I'll send you.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: You can really the first one so you could start
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: going through. And I think what I think how it
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: started was she did a post and was like, hey,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: a lot of people are asking me how do I
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: feel about the latest Dugg or that got arrested. I
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: think it's great. And here's why I grew up in
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: this cult. Da da da, And I think from there,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: she said, when she first started, she goes, people were
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: asking me to talk about it. Okay, So whore it is?
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: So she then starts from the beginning, and it is.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: I think it has to do with you always want
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: your mother's approval, always wants your mother's approval.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: And it goes to that.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, I it's still at age fifty seven, want
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: my mother's approval. You always want your mother's approval. And
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: then also in a cult situation when you grew up
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: in like with religious abuse, you do always come back
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: to it if you don't have the strength to stay
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: out because it's what you.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: Know, or the support system outside, yes, right, a support
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: system to help you stay out right right right right.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: It's like it's like cult deprogramming. People go back and
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: you have to like build a world. It's like addiction recovery. Yeah, totally,
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: build new friends that keep you out of that horrible place.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: Oh guys, we're getting deep. Well listen again, uh doing
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: full season recaps. We call it Whitey Wednesday over there
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: on Peak Shade Prime. It's not right, but it's true.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: And because Keishia said these are the whitest people she
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: had ever seen in her whole life.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: I was thinking about that when I was like, God,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: they're all so blonde in these pedious clips like that.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: It's like genetics. It is, they had no dominant genes, and.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: It is interesting.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: Some of the kids look like Cassie looks a lot
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: like Barry. Amber looks a lot like Barry. And then
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: you see Mercy, the little one looks just like Mariah,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: who does look a little bit more like Barry. And
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: then you know the one the really good looking ones
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: like Micah, like he does look like Kim.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: Mmm.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: I hate. I mean, you listen, you hate to give
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: Kim any props, but she has produced some good looking children.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm that's true.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, see we just said one nice thing about Kim.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: Look at us. Okay, that's it, everybody. We'll be back
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: next Wednesday.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: We're going to be covering Welcome to Plathel season eight
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: on this free feed on Wednesdays, and that's it.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: You could follow Kimberly.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: She has a podcast called A Date with Dateline, where
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: she covers Dateline with her co host Katie, and you
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: could follow them over on social media at Dateline. They're
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: putting up lots of reels. Now they're getting into that
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: YouTube world. So if you want to watch this, you
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: can watch this over on YouTube. Just go look up
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: Pink Shade podcasts.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah and again, and you can watch all the screenshots that.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: Oh I worked hard on the slide show. Guys, worked
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: real hard. Well.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: I was listening to your last season with Amy and
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 3: you were like, I don't know how to put up
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: photos and people. That's so much work. And look at
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: you you've done.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: I'm growing.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: That's Somebody made a joke the other day about a
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: reel I put up, and so I said, I appreciate
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: this real even more because I know it probably took
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: Mary paying four hours. Yeah, I right back, it only
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: took me thirty minutes. I'm getting better. I'm getting better, guys.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: Technology is hard when you're a lady of a certain page.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'll see you next week.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: Bye, Lady of a certain rage.
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  Speaker 1: M h m hm
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  Speaker 3: Hm hm