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The Fifth Hour: Bad Fortune, the Upsell · The Ben Maller Show

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  Speaker 3: two hundred and seventy one more of these days until
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  Speaker 3: and seventy one more days. We've made it through ninety
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  Speaker 1: So there you go on this podcast.
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  Speaker 3: What you have tuned into for some reason, we have
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  Speaker 3: not good fortune, but bad fortune. We've got the phrase
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  Speaker 3: of the week, some foody fun as well, and whatever
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  Speaker 3: else pops up. I did want to mention while I'm
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  Speaker 3: talking about events and today's the day, and these things
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  Speaker 3: have happened. It is also National Picky Eater's Day, and
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  Speaker 3: I've been accused wrongfully of being a picky eater. The
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  Speaker 3: way I approach life, we are here for just seconds
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  Speaker 3: in the big picture of things, and then we get
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  Speaker 3: tossed into a box and they put dirt on top
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  Speaker 3: of us, and then that's it. Game over. I want
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  Speaker 3: to enjoy what I'm eating. I like what I like,
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  Speaker 3: and that's the way we do things. But today's National
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  Speaker 3: Picky Eater's Day and some fun facts for alf the
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  Speaker 3: alien opinter to back up.
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  Speaker 1: What exactly this day is for now.
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  Speaker 3: Supposedly, the origins of National Picky Eater's Day is a
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  Speaker 3: day that is not about celebrating not eating certain foods.
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  Speaker 3: It is actually a day to try to get your kids,
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  Speaker 3: because normally it's the kids you're trying to get to
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  Speaker 3: eat healthy and all that stuff. So it's a day
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  Speaker 3: to celebrate these small victories in life. And a recent
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  Speaker 3: survey found that at most meal time issues with food.
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  Speaker 3: The coniption fit happens because your kid doesn't want to
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  Speaker 3: eat veggies. That's almost forty percent of the time. Thirty
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  Speaker 3: seven percent of the time, they estimate kids say ixnay
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  Speaker 3: on the veggie A not interested. They say about thirty
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  Speaker 3: three percent of the time, the kid's like, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: eating that. It doesn't smell good. And they say about
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  Speaker 3: thirty two percent of the time the kid doesn't eat
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  Speaker 3: it because they don't like the way it looks, the
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  Speaker 3: presentation of the food. And then roughly fourteen percent of
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  Speaker 3: the time they say, it's just the kid doesn't want
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  Speaker 3: to try something new, and that's me.
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  Speaker 1: I like what I like, and that's it.
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  Speaker 3: And the first ever picky eater probably goes back I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, the prehistoric times and all that, and I
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  Speaker 3: can imagine that the kid didn't want to eat berries,
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  Speaker 3: and it's like, I like the meat I'm eating, I
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  Speaker 3: don't eat berries, And that was it. Picky eater actually
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  Speaker 3: first became a thing, you know, I like words. We
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  Speaker 3: have the phrase of the week. We'll get too later
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  Speaker 3: in this podcast. But the phrase picky eater first appeared
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  Speaker 3: in the modern lexicon some fifty five years ago, nineteen seventy,
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  Speaker 3: nineteen seventy, and the phrase made it into the normal
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  Speaker 3: range of.
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  Speaker 1: Discussion, and it started that year.
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  Speaker 3: By the nineteen sixties and seventies, fussy eating was widespread
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  Speaker 3: and it made Doctor Seuss's Green Eggs and Ham a
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  Speaker 3: best seller, and that because the people could not get
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  Speaker 3: their kids to eat.
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  Speaker 1: I guess there was.
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  Speaker 3: It must have been a boom in the sixties in
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  Speaker 3: different foods and the frozen food thing, and that kind
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  Speaker 3: of took off in that time, and one thing led
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  Speaker 3: to another. There's actually been a bunch of studies that
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  Speaker 3: have been done in all this.
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  Speaker 1: They say that.
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  Speaker 3: Fifty nine percent of kids are picky eaters. It's more
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  Speaker 3: likely that your kid is not going to like what
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  Speaker 3: you're serving, and there's a negotiation.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a hostage situation.
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  Speaker 3: And my dear old mom she still be resting in peace,
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  Speaker 3: but man, I put my mom through the wringer. She
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  Speaker 3: would serve always what she was taught, a balance meal,
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  Speaker 3: protein like a meat or a fish or chicken, and
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  Speaker 3: then we'd have like a starch of potato, but we'd
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  Speaker 3: always have vegetables. My mom eat a lot of peas,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of peas, and I did not like peas.
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  Speaker 3: Sam I am and Mom I am, and I wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: eat the peas. And we would have very tense situations
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  Speaker 3: where my mom, and she was really kind of the
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  Speaker 3: gatekeeper in the family, and it was one of those
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  Speaker 3: situations where my dad would just get up and leave
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  Speaker 3: the table, and it would be like a standoff between
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  Speaker 3: me and my mom.
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  Speaker 1: And she's like, you're not leaving the.
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  Speaker 3: Table, Benjamin until you eat those vegetables. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: all right, I'm not going anywhere. I'll sit right here.
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  Speaker 3: I got nothing to do, and and we just kind
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  Speaker 3: of try to negotiate my mom withou. Then we'll just
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  Speaker 3: eat a little bit, try something, you know, just kind
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  Speaker 3: of gradually try a little bit. You'll like it, you know,
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  Speaker 3: And then then of course it ends up like, well,
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  Speaker 3: why don't I just we had spaghetti because I a
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  Speaker 3: lot of spaghetti when I was a kid, or mac
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  Speaker 3: and cheese, the box kind with the powder, which I
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  Speaker 3: thought was authentic Italian food growing up.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, my mom will be like, all right, so
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  Speaker 1: why don't I.
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  Speaker 3: We mix the vegetables with the pasta and you will'n't
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  Speaker 3: even be able to taste it, and you'll be all
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  Speaker 3: about it, and yeah, I'm not doing that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like the color green.
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  Speaker 3: I'm good, that's it. So anyway, Happy National Picky Eater's Day.
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  Speaker 3: Flipping the page on that I fell down a rabbit
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  Speaker 3: hole recently, and I'd like to share it with the class.
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  Speaker 3: And since you're a member of the class and you're
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  Speaker 3: still listening to this podcast, some I don't know eight nine,
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  Speaker 3: ten minutes in whatever it is, I'm not keeping track.
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  Speaker 1: So not good fortune, but bad fortune.
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  Speaker 3: And I actually want to thank a listener who sent
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  Speaker 3: me down this rabbit hole. Checking my email. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm very bad about writing back and all that. Some
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  Speaker 3: of you are very persistent and continue to pester me.
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  Speaker 3: And I got an email from a guy that lives
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  Speaker 3: in Florida, Mike, who is I think in the Orlando area.
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  Speaker 3: I could be completely long the town he mentioned.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't remember it right now.
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  Speaker 3: I don't have it in front of me, believe I.
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  Speaker 3: When I was in Florida for spring training with the
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  Speaker 3: Dodgers years ago, I think I drove through that town
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  Speaker 3: and I'm pretty sure it's on the path between Orlando
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  Speaker 3: and verro Beach, but I might be wrong.
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  Speaker 1: It could be God only knows.
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  Speaker 3: He could be out near Jed who fled out there
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  Speaker 3: in the northern part.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, So not good fortune, but bad fortune.
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  Speaker 3: And this was about he hand some questions about fortune
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  Speaker 3: Telly telling he had fallen. He had sent me a
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  Speaker 3: story and he was, I guess he had had a
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  Speaker 3: friend who had fallen for a scam involving fortune tellers.
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  Speaker 1: And he listens to the show and he he knows
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  Speaker 1: some of my shtick that I say on the.
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  Speaker 3: Air, and I'll say I'm a distant relative of Nostradamus
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  Speaker 3: and friend of Nostradini's.
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  Speaker 1: It's one of my lines.
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  Speaker 3: And so he sent me this story and he said,
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  Speaker 3: I had a friend that fell for this, and I
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  Speaker 3: want you to, you know, to read read this. And
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  Speaker 3: then I clicked on it and I read it, and
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  Speaker 3: then I started reading more and I actually wrote back,
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  Speaker 3: I said, listen, I hope you understand that that is
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  Speaker 3: as I said here stick and it's just a gag.
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  Speaker 3: I know there is no such thing as as accurate
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  Speaker 3: fortune telling. I am aware of it, and I do
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  Speaker 3: it kind of in a mocking way. And I hope
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  Speaker 3: the fact that I throw a friend of Nostradinas. So
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  Speaker 3: I met at a mallor meet and greet in Seattle.
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  Speaker 3: I've also used over the years magic eight ball. I've
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  Speaker 3: actually I've actually jotted down sympathetic it is. I've jotted
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  Speaker 3: down some magic eight ball sayings like outlook not so.
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  Speaker 1: Good or without a doubt.
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  Speaker 3: I've incorporated this nonsense into the to the mount of
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  Speaker 3: monologues and the different eight ball sayings, different phrases. There
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  Speaker 3: was a I use the Zoltar machine from there was
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  Speaker 3: this movie I saw when I was a kid. I
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  Speaker 3: was younger Tom Hanks movie. He grew up and he
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  Speaker 3: became it was a grown ass man and it was.
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  Speaker 1: The machine that gave him the wish.
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  Speaker 3: And I've quoted Karnak the Magnificent, which is from the
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  Speaker 3: old Tonight Show, dating myself also. So I've done all
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  Speaker 3: these nonsense things over the years, really mocking the world
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  Speaker 3: of fortune telling and someway. This guy sent me some
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  Speaker 3: information and then I started digging and I wanted to
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  Speaker 3: share my notes with the class. Think of it as
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  Speaker 3: a mallor webinar if you will. It is on the web,
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  Speaker 3: so the fortune telling industry. I did not realize how
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  Speaker 3: big this is, how massive this is now every town
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  Speaker 3: I've been to and I've been able to travel a
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  Speaker 3: lot over my life around just around the United States.
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  Speaker 3: I don't go out of the We're going to Canada
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  Speaker 3: for a malor meet and greet here, which is, you know,
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  Speaker 3: kind of like the same as you know, it's just
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  Speaker 3: the nicer in Canada. We're going to Vancouver at the
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  Speaker 3: end of May. More on that at some point this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: However, so every where.
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  Speaker 3: I've gone, whether it's Pittsburgh, Boston, Syracuse, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, Florida, Ohio, Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota,
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  Speaker 3: everywhere I go, I see the fortune teller shop, and
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  Speaker 3: they're normally in a pretty decent mall or you know,
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  Speaker 3: one of those like we you have the grocery store,
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  Speaker 3: you've got the barber shop, and then you've got a
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  Speaker 3: little spot that is a psychic fortune teller. And it's
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  Speaker 3: one of those things. It's like how do they afford that?
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  Speaker 3: Like the rent is not that cheap at these places,
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  Speaker 3: Like how do they do it?
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  Speaker 1: How do they put off?
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, So I started starting reading what the gentleman from
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  Speaker 3: Florida sent me, and then I started doing some other
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  Speaker 3: stuff and the fortune telling, tarroot reading, palm reading.
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  Speaker 1: All that is valued.
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  Speaker 3: At two point three billion with a B like ben
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  Speaker 3: two point three billion in the United States, and it
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  Speaker 3: is estimated this blooming away that across the United States
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  Speaker 3: there are one hundred and five thousand, over one hundred
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  Speaker 3: and five thousand businesses that are in that industry, and
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  Speaker 3: the annual growth rate is around four point three percent,
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  Speaker 3: and then they estimate the business is booming for a
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  Speaker 3: lot during COVID, people just worked up and needing help
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  Speaker 3: and looking anywhere they could.
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  Speaker 1: Get it pandemic.
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  Speaker 3: Certainly, it's gone down a little bit since the pandemic,
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  Speaker 3: but it's continued overall to go up.
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  Speaker 1: And then you start digging.
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  Speaker 3: A little deeper and you're like, all right, so what's
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  Speaker 3: going on? And so the way the scams work, the
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  Speaker 3: fortune telling scams, is they're able to exploit people who
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  Speaker 3: are curious, people that are at an emotionally weak spot
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  Speaker 3: in their life. Essentially, we use the phrase also on
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  Speaker 3: the show getting that Dumb Money, which is a Wall
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  Speaker 3: Street phrase, but in fortune telling, I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: dumb is the right word, because I don't want to
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  Speaker 3: say everyone that's falling forward is dumb. But your defense
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  Speaker 3: systems go down.
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  Speaker 1: At certain points in your life.
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  Speaker 3: They just do right, whether you lose someone close to you,
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  Speaker 3: whether you've got a medical problem, maybe you lose your job.
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  Speaker 3: There's certain points in our life where we do not
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  Speaker 3: have the defense up the force field. The protection goes away.
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  Speaker 3: And the way that the fortune telling industry gets customers,
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  Speaker 3: I guess they call it the hook, right, the hook,
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  Speaker 3: And how do you get people. It's like doing a
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  Speaker 3: radio show. Well, a lot of the times in the
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  Speaker 3: old days, you just get people that would scan the
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  Speaker 3: radio dial and find you. Not so much anymore. A
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  Speaker 3: lot of people just happened to be looking for a format.
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  Speaker 3: We're on Fox Sports Radio. You're a sportsman, you find it.
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  Speaker 3: Or you're looking for something unique that's on late at night,
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  Speaker 3: you might find the show.
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  Speaker 1: But the fortune telling.
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  Speaker 3: Industry, they'll post ads on street signs and online and
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  Speaker 3: social media and all that, and they'll offer the tarot
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  Speaker 3: readings and all the different things and all that stuff,
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  Speaker 3: and they promised they'll give you information.
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  Speaker 1: The cold reading thing is.
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  Speaker 3: I remember there was a guy, James Randy. He died
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  Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, The Amazing Randy. And there
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  Speaker 3: was a pretty good documentary. Some of it was annoying
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  Speaker 3: in the documentary, but most of it was pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: The Amazing Randy. It was recorded near the end of
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  Speaker 1: his life.
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  Speaker 3: About the parts I liked were the parts about how
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  Speaker 3: he tried to expose and he did expose many people
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  Speaker 3: in this industry. And he had like a if I
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  Speaker 3: remember correctly, and I haven't seen the documentary in a
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  Speaker 3: number of years, and I think I recommended it on
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  Speaker 3: this podcast. But anyway, the Amazing Randy, he had a
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  Speaker 3: standing offer.
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  Speaker 1: James Randy.
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  Speaker 3: He was a magician, and he used to bother him
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  Speaker 3: that people who were magicians would exploit the fact they
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  Speaker 3: thought they would teach people that this was real. And
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  Speaker 3: he's like, well, it's not real, it's magic. We're doing
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  Speaker 3: a show, we're doing performance art, and it's all right. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: So James Randy had a Amazing Randy had an offer
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  Speaker 3: a million dollars if you could go into a room
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  Speaker 3: under his conditions, with limited guidelines and prove prove that
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  Speaker 3: you could actually tell the future.
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  Speaker 1: Million dollars.
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  Speaker 3: And despite one hundred thousand businesses offering services about predicting
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  Speaker 3: the future, sure nobody, uh, nobody got it right. Nobody
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  Speaker 3: took the offer. Well, I don't know nobody took the office.
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  Speaker 3: I think one one or two people tried, but they
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  Speaker 3: didn't succeed in that. And so the cold reading thing
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  Speaker 3: is and I think this was also in the documentary.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lot of guess work.
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  Speaker 3: It's a lot of vague phrases that could apply to anyone.
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  Speaker 3: Like I see someone in your in your life that
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  Speaker 3: their name starts with the first name starts with an M.
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  Speaker 3: I see you you've had something that hasn't gone your
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  Speaker 3: way recently in your life, which is one of those
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  Speaker 3: things like you going to a cold reading. Chances are
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  Speaker 3: you're going there because something didn't go great, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and you know someone in your world is hiding something
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  Speaker 3: from you, and I see it's a woman, and you know, and.
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  Speaker 1: Just you, just you, And then they answer.
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  Speaker 3: And a lot of times the person that is having
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  Speaker 3: the cold reading done to them will answer these questions
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  Speaker 3: and give more information right, and they'll read.
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  Speaker 1: Body language, and they'll.
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  Speaker 3: They'll kind of refine and update predictions and things as
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  Speaker 3: they go through the whole thing. And then eventually they
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  Speaker 3: if they're good at it, they'll gain your trust. And
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  Speaker 3: once they've got you, they got you by the balls,
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  Speaker 3: all right, they got you by it right, because then
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  Speaker 3: they introduce a different issue, right. And oftentimes, from what
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  Speaker 3: I've been able to discover from my rabbit hole, you
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  Speaker 3: can go down your own rabbit hole is they will.
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  Speaker 3: Once they've got you, they they then bring in a
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  Speaker 3: curse or negative dark energy or.
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  Speaker 1: Some kind of spiritual block get to the other.
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  Speaker 3: Side, and they come up with all these terms and
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  Speaker 3: they claim that the issue is what's really causing your
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  Speaker 3: problems in life, that the reason you have a really
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  Speaker 3: shitty job and you're in a in no relationship other
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  Speaker 3: than with your right hand is because of this blockage
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  Speaker 3: or bad energy And then at that point's the pivot
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  Speaker 3: or the upsell. At that point, suddenly the very affordable
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  Speaker 3: visit to the fortune teller gets a lot more expensive
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  Speaker 3: because they get you by a little you know, maybe
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  Speaker 3: forty to fifty bucks to get a reading. And then
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  Speaker 3: they got you and you have a good relationship and
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  Speaker 3: they offer a solution, and then it's like, well wait
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  Speaker 3: a minute, this.
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  Speaker 1: Goes a little deeper. It's going to take more work.
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  Speaker 3: I need to spend more time with you, and I
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  Speaker 3: have a bunch of rituals and I have a Harry
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Potter spell book, and we need to cleanse this out
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  Speaker 3: of you.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: And all of a sudden they start upselling right and
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: then you're it goes.
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  Speaker 3: From fifty bucks for a one time fee, and it's
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty dollars, and it's and then it
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: keeps getting worse.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: It's like, I didn't think it was this bad.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: And then it's you know it's gonna I'm gonna need
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: more candles and crystals and all the other bullshoi and
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: all that, and and if you don't play along, they
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: then give you a they give.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: You a guilt trip. They're like, wait a minute, you
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: don't believe you know, and they they'll warn you.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: They'll be like, oh man, if you don't do this,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: not only are you going to have issues, but people
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: around you are going to the bad mojo is going
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: to go to them.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: And but if you do it, you know it won't happen.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: And then there's other times.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: They'll be like, hey, wait a minute, you know your
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: significant other will will come back or will find them
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: or whatever. And so they essentially just take advantage of
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: people that are at a week spot. Like I said,
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: not necessarily dumb people. In fact, there's some very very successful,
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: highly educated people. And it's like people in academia who
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: you'd think would know better, and they fall for And
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: I've had some friends that are magicians over the years and.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: They've told me. It's like, it's amazing.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: It's like people that you would think would never ever
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: go down this road and believe it, believe it.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: And it's the power of.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: The illusion that the magicians have found certain blind spots
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: that we all have, and often they're right in front
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: of us that we're not paying attention to, and they've
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: been able to take it.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: But as far as the fortune teller thing.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: They get you in cheap, they give you vague answers,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: they manipulate you, they build their trust, the trust between
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: the client and the person, and then it's.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Off to the races, right, it's off to the races.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: And the online scams are popular now. Back in the
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: old days they had infomercials, the Miss Cleo one the
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: most famous.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: These are traveling traveling.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Gypsies, right going around and doing their thing, and then
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: they eventually will disappear at some point, go on to
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: the next city and try to do it all over again, right,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: try to do it all over again, and it's very effective,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: works a lot, works a lot, Otherwise there wouldn't be
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: so many people doing it now. Every once in a while,
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: somebody in the government tries to step.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: In and say, well, wait a minute.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: And what they'll often do is they they've actually partner
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: with lawyers and they'll use these psychological tricks and all that,
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: but they'll seem authentic, but they operate on the margins,
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: on the fringes where they'll sell it in the fine
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: print as for entertainment purposes only for entertainment purposes only.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: And when you.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Toss that phrase in, it makes it, from a legal standpoint,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: very difficult to charge someone with a crime because they say, well,
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: it's for entertainment purposes only. You signed the contract. And
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: it's only in the most blatant occurrences where they can
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: get somebody for stealing money, because oftentimes the people will
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: just write the check and they'll transfer the money to
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: the account, and it's like it's wild and so everyone's
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: our authorities try to crack down on some is, but
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: the small time players that don't don't make a one
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: hundred thousand per client or something like that, they make
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: a good amount of money. To the phrase of the week,
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: The phrase of the week is nitty gritty, you know,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: getting down to the most important part of something is
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: the nitty gritty. Like this podcast, the entire thing is
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: getting down to the nitty gritty, unless it's not so.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: The phrase the nitty gritty, let's go back in the
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: hot tub time machine. It actually originated. It is believed
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: in the United States, and it's not that old a phrase.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: The exact origin is a bit of a mystery, but
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: there are a couple of popular debates on where the
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: phrase the nitty gritty came from. But it has been
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: in the vernacular a very colorful way to describe the
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: most essential part of something, the core, get down to
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: the most important information or details or whatever.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: So the phrase.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Nitty gritty originated in the African American communities, and they
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: claim the roots of it likely came from like the
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: slavery era in American history, and they the debate is like,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: where did it exactly come from?
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Is it linked to.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: The word nits, the eggs of lice and grits?
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Is that what it is? They're not sure about that.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: But where the word really took off was in New
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Orleans in jazz jazz music, and the term started really
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: going for it in the nineteen fifties, Like the mid
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: twentieth century, nineteen fifties and nineteen sixties, it would pop
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: up in by then music literature.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: People just use it.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: And but again it mostly started going mainstream because of
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: jazz and blues in New Orleans, and for people who
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: were doing jazz and blues in New Orleans at that time,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: it meant the most important part of the song. You
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: got through all the fluff and you got down to
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: the part of the song which was the most important part.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: And in nineteen sixty three it really went mainstream because
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: there was a song.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Surely Ellis released her song The Nitty Gritty.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: And that put it firmly in the pop culture.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: And there you go. Now there's also a theory.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: That nitty gritty didn't you know, didn't come from slavery times.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: It was in the jazz and blues world and that's
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: where it took off.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: But it's really just a way to kind of mix
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: words together, kind of like hocus Pocus or helter skelter.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: You put nitty gritty in there, and the people that
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: study words, the linguist people claim it is a classic
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: trick that the English language and those that speak it love,
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: where you repeat sounds and it gives a phrase some
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: wow like razmataz, right, Rasmataz.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Things like that it works out well, works out well.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: So there it is the phrase of the week, nitty gritty,
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: which the early origin.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Is up in debate. Was it from the slave times
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: of the Southern States.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: It did start becoming mainstream because of New Orleans jazz
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: and blues and all that, but we're exactly it recently
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: became a thing. That's the great, great unknown. Time out
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: for some foody fun. Hooray for food e fun. That's right,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: foody foody fun.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Well, if you like Krispy Kreme, good news, they have
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: a new donut, not a diet donut. It's the Fruity
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Pebbles donut.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: It became available yesterday and it is available through the weekend.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: So if you this sounds like something that only a
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: kid would like, but who knows, maybe you got kids,
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: maybe you like it yourself. But as it is described,
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: it is just a donut covered in fruity pebbles, so.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Sugar sugar on sugar.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Popeyes offering any two chicken sandwiches and a regular side
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: for twelve dollars.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: It seems like a pretty good deal.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Of course, only available through the app, available through April thirteenth, so.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: You got a little bit of time on that a
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: little time ago. What other specials are there?
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: I think Applebee still has the two for twenty five
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: dollars menu deal. They've got the two new sizzling skillet
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: and steak deal for a limited time, so you can
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: get that. What else do we have about? Popeyes launched
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: a new pickle glaze chicken sandwich that makes me want
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: to puke in my mouth. Fried pickles and pickle lemonade
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: go out right now, alf the alien O Pinter, you
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: shmuck and your love of pickles?
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: How dare you? How dare you? Well?
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Pizza Hu Pizza Taiwan their latest pizza.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: How do I describe this? It looks like a turtle
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: with a snake on its back, and you grab that. Crumble.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I love Crumble.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: If they didn't cost seven hundred dollars for a cookie,
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: I'd eat there more. Crumble makes a new strawberry butter
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: cake through April fifth, So you got today and tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. There was also a story that
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: made the rounds. I think this was like an April
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Fools joke that Chipotle.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Was not doing well. They were going to file for
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: bankruptcy and they were going to get.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Rid of all of their stores. Apparently that was bullshoy,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: not true, not true, wrong wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong wrong.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: What else do we have?
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Taco Bell has introduced a new Caliente Cantina Chicken nacho
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: fries deal, which it looks all right.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know that. It's like the greatest thing in
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: the world.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: It's got slow roasted chicken, nacho cheese, sauce, shredded cheddar cheese,
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: crunchy Fiesta strips.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Sour cream.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Don't need that in Caliente sauce. It's five hundred and
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: forty calories for your side dish.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: And anyway there it is all right. We'll get out
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: on that.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Danny g should be with me tomorrow on the Saturday part,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: the Final four Tomorrow. I got the Dodgers and the Phillies. Today,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: I'll be checking that out from the City of Brotherly Love.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Hope believe Fats will be out there. So we'll be
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: checking out the Dodgers and the Fills. And I think
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: that's really all I'll be checking out. Who knows, you'll
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: find out. I'll tell you tomorrow. All right, have a
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: wonderful rest of your Friday. Don't forget new podcast all
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: weekend long, and try to send something in today for
• 32:06
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• 32:11
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• 32:16
  Speaker 3: message read on the I can't guarantee it. I'm not
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: gonna guarantee that we're gonna use our email, but if
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: I see it and it's not a dumb question, then
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: we'll put it in. So again, if you would like
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: to send a question in the email address is Real
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: fifth Hour, all letters.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: No numbers, Real fifth Hour.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: At gmail dot com. I have a wonderful rest of
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: your day and we'll talk to you tomorrow. Yeah, tomorrow, tomorrow,
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: tomorrow later. Skater austa pasta.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that's not quite how I say it. All right,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: that's all. Danny got a murder.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: I gotta go.