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- 0:02Speaker 1: Peedo Krandland live on Sky News Australia.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Good evening, welcome to the program. Terrific to have your
- 0:10Speaker 2: companies always Let's see what's coming up.
- 0:12Speaker 3: Tonight on the program.
- 0:13Speaker 2: A massive blow the Labour's future Made in Australia scheme
- 0:17Speaker 2: the newly minted Queensland government asking very valid questions about
- 0:21Speaker 2: Labour's centerpiece one billion dollar psigh Quantum computer deal. Now
- 0:26Speaker 2: I reckon this has had a real stink about it
- 0:28Speaker 2: from the get go, with that tender process marred in secrecy.
- 0:33Speaker 3: More on that. Plus anger mounts as Victorians are locked.
- 0:36Speaker 2: Out of their parks land being handed over to indigenous
- 0:40Speaker 2: organizations or monetized for the climate industry. As always, Victoria's
- 0:45Speaker 2: the canary in the coal mine.
- 0:47Speaker 3: Stay tuned the details.
- 0:48Speaker 2: Who help you fight back when this push comes to
- 0:52Speaker 2: your community?
- 0:53Speaker 3: Plus wasting no time.
- 0:54Speaker 2: Donald Trump's already filling key positions in his administration, which
- 0:59Speaker 2: is sure to send the left here and there into
- 1:03Speaker 2: a tail spin. Plus wait till I tell you who
- 1:06Speaker 2: we've sent to the latest UN Climate conference junket tell
- 1:11Speaker 2: you you'll be shocked. And despite what the Prime Minister says,
- 1:14Speaker 2: it's clear he's got one eye on the election as
- 1:17Speaker 2: future speculation mounts a potential date and the opposition takes
- 1:22Speaker 2: a leaf out of the Trump play book with this
- 1:25Speaker 2: one very simple question.
- 1:28Speaker 4: Well, look, I'm focused on governing. That's what I'm focused on.
- 1:31Speaker 5: I just don't think any Australian can say that they're
- 1:33Speaker 5: better off today than they were two and a half
- 1:35Speaker 5: years ago.
- 1:38Speaker 2: But first, the former ACTU president, former Labour MP Jenny
- 1:43Speaker 2: George has now gone public with some home truths about
- 1:47Speaker 2: energy policy, and the ever smart George has underscored a
- 1:51Speaker 2: point I've been making here as well as she's warning
- 1:55Speaker 2: an election in March could enable the Albanezer government to
- 1:59Speaker 2: hide its key intentions on energy policy, including it's twenty
- 2:04Speaker 2: thirty five emissions targets that are set to be released
- 2:08Speaker 2: in February and its default market offer on power prices.
- 2:14Speaker 2: That's because if the Prime Minister calls a March election,
- 2:17Speaker 2: he goes into caretaker mode in February, and if in
- 2:21Speaker 2: caretaker these new targets get pushed off until after you
- 2:26Speaker 2: have voted. George says that I quote the specific pledge
- 2:31Speaker 2: to cut two hundred and seventy five dollars from household
- 2:34Speaker 2: power bills by twenty twenty five was repeated on ninety
- 2:37Speaker 2: seven occasions, and that was the first of Labour's broken promises.
- 2:42Speaker 2: Now this is not a former liberal calling out the lies.
- 2:45Speaker 2: This is Labor Royalty. She also says that if Labor
- 2:49Speaker 2: has successfully lobbied for Australia to host the twenty twenty
- 2:53Speaker 2: six u WENT Climate Conference, possibly to be confirmed this
- 2:57Speaker 2: week at the current gathering in ajab Jahan, that would
- 3:01Speaker 2: meet and I quote her again, the Albanezer government will
- 3:04Speaker 2: have failed to read the room in pursuing a vanity
- 3:07Speaker 2: project in the midst of a cost of living crisis.
- 3:11Speaker 3: Now, by god, this is a vanity project.
- 3:15Speaker 2: Even now at the Azerbaijan meeting, the whole climate conference
- 3:20Speaker 2: has descended into a circus our delegations full of bureaucrats
- 3:26Speaker 2: knowing what it's cost in the past. We're talking about
- 3:30Speaker 2: tens of millions of dollars here in business class flights
- 3:33Speaker 2: and hotel rooms.
- 3:35Speaker 3: Then have a look who's actually there.
- 3:38Speaker 2: Labours do best made to form a Liberal Treasurer Matt Keane,
- 3:42Speaker 2: Energy Minister Chris Bowen, and they're sitting amongst all these
- 3:46Speaker 2: climate conscious countries of the world, will be the Taliban
- 3:50Speaker 2: from Afghanistan, the very same terrorists that we have fought
- 3:54Speaker 2: for twenty years as they harbored the likes of Osama
- 3:58Speaker 2: bin Laden. Now we're all sitting around the table with
- 4:02Speaker 2: them talking emissions.
- 4:05Speaker 3: Give me a break.
- 4:07Speaker 2: But back to this missing today in the Australian from
- 4:09Speaker 2: Jenny George. Now, as you'd expect from a former union
- 4:13Speaker 2: leader Labour grandee, there's a swipe with the Coalition for
- 4:17Speaker 2: not yet releasing a costed energy policy.
- 4:21Speaker 3: Fair enough, I'd say to Jenny George.
- 4:23Speaker 2: But the guts of her statement is that the Albanezy
- 4:27Speaker 2: government would be and I quote, failing in its commitment
- 4:31Speaker 2: to transparency and accountability were it not to be upfront
- 4:36Speaker 2: before the election about its own twenty thirty five targets,
- 4:41Speaker 2: about its own whole of system costings which it's never
- 4:45Speaker 2: released even if it has them, and about its draft
- 4:49Speaker 2: twenty twenty five power price increases. Will need to be alert,
- 4:55Speaker 2: says Jenny George, to the possibility of missing crew information
- 5:01Speaker 2: about the energy transition during the caretaker period. And you'd
- 5:06Speaker 2: say that again today, the Prime Minister being coy about
- 5:11Speaker 2: election dates.
- 5:13Speaker 4: Well, look, I'm focused on governing, That's what I'm focused
- 5:16Speaker 4: on and I'll leave the speculation to others.
- 5:23Speaker 2: But if there's no possibility of a federal election till May,
- 5:26Speaker 2: as he's repeatedly said, why is the WA Labor premier
- 5:31Speaker 2: now trying to move his March election to avoid a
- 5:35Speaker 2: federal clash. Today the Prime Minister, though, gave away more
- 5:40Speaker 2: than I think he realized, certainly more than most in
- 5:43Speaker 2: the media have picked up with this statement.
- 5:46Speaker 3: Now, I want you to listen carefully.
- 5:50Speaker 4: The election I've said the whole way through will be
- 5:53Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five, will be called April or before.
- 6:00Speaker 2: April or before all before. That's the first time he
- 6:06Speaker 2: said that. Today I say it again. He will have
- 6:09Speaker 2: an early election because he must. He must have an
- 6:13Speaker 2: early election. That's his best chance to survive. He has
- 6:17Speaker 2: to bury these new climate targets. He has to bury
- 6:19Speaker 2: the decade of deficits in his upcoming March budget, and
- 6:24Speaker 2: he has to get to the polls before the energy
- 6:27Speaker 2: and climates a turbocharge by the incoming President Donald Trump.
- 6:33Speaker 3: That's why the Prime Minister wants an election before.
- 6:36Speaker 2: He can't avoid the truth about what Labour's policies are
- 6:40Speaker 2: doing to your power prices and what harm they will
- 6:44Speaker 2: do in the future should he get re elected, and
- 6:53Speaker 2: look more warnings today about the attack on free speech
- 6:56Speaker 2: inherent in the government's misinformation and disinformation ledgers. It's now
- 7:01Speaker 2: passed the House of Representatives and.
- 7:03Speaker 3: Is before the Senate.
- 7:05Speaker 2: Remember this is the bill that proposers fines with up
- 7:08Speaker 2: to five percent of a big tech company's revenue should
- 7:12Speaker 2: faceless bureaucrats conclude that big tech hasn't tried hard enough
- 7:17Speaker 2: to remove posts that they judge to be inadvertently or
- 7:21Speaker 2: deliberately misleading, meaning that in order to mitigate any risk
- 7:27Speaker 2: of fines these Silicon Valley lefties or they'll just remove
- 7:32Speaker 2: any content that might trigger the woke types that now
- 7:36Speaker 2: run our governments, our big institutions, and of course throughout
- 7:41Speaker 2: mainstream media. These are the big tech companies that have already,
- 7:46Speaker 2: as marked Zuckerberg admitted, censored what turned out to be
- 7:50Speaker 2: the truth regarding vaccines in the pandemic, and have canceled
- 7:54Speaker 2: people with politically incorrect opinions, including the once and now
- 7:59Speaker 2: future President of the United States. But as bad as
- 8:02Speaker 2: all that was, this bill, if it passes the Senate
- 8:06Speaker 2: would make it much worse. It would put big brother
- 8:11Speaker 2: in charge of the online world, which was once supposed
- 8:14Speaker 2: to liberate communications and strengthen free speech. Today, the constitutional
- 8:19Speaker 2: expert Professor Antomy warned that the government's bill could quote
- 8:24Speaker 2: all go very wrong. She said it would create worse
- 8:28Speaker 2: problems by suppressing free speech and undermining democracy. She said
- 8:34Speaker 2: that big tech so called fact checkers were often quote
- 8:37Speaker 2: young kids out of university with a tendency to distort
- 8:42Speaker 2: advice from experts, even if inadvertently. Make no mistake, this
- 8:48Speaker 2: is a really dangerous bill. Her government is determined to
- 8:52Speaker 2: ram through before the election, with the support of the
- 8:56Speaker 2: Teals and the Greens, doubtless to muzzle opinion it doesn't like,
- 9:01Speaker 2: as has already happened to me, for instance during the
- 9:05Speaker 2: Voice debate, and we triumphed here at Sky News because
- 9:09Speaker 2: I had the backing of my boss and our lawyers,
- 9:12Speaker 2: and getting the information out there to voters was in
- 9:14Speaker 2: part why the Voice was defeated resoundingly. But what happens
- 9:20Speaker 2: if dissent is silenced? What happens if alternative views are
- 9:25Speaker 2: not heard? If you don't get to hear all the
- 9:28Speaker 2: facts any wonder? So many activists originally wanted this legislation
- 9:33Speaker 2: passed before last year's referendum and the fact that they
- 9:37Speaker 2: are so desperate to have it passed and in place
- 9:40Speaker 2: for the election says it all all right, that's got
- 9:49Speaker 2: a camber now for the headlines. Sky newsed political reporter
- 9:52Speaker 2: Cam Reddit.
- 9:54Speaker 5: Four suspected asylum seekers walked ashore in the remote Northern Territory.
- 10:00Speaker 5: It's believed the foreign nationals arrived by boat on Monday,
- 10:04Speaker 5: landing on Croker Island, northeast of Darwin. The ABC reports
- 10:08Speaker 5: the four told locals they had paid someone to be
- 10:12Speaker 5: taken to Australia.
- 10:13Speaker 6: Our borders are not secure under the Albanzi government.
- 10:17Speaker 5: Sky News understands the Border Force responded and all four
- 10:21Speaker 5: are no longer on Australian soil.
- 10:23Speaker 3: The people spugglers believe that they're back in business. This
- 10:25Speaker 3: is now the twenty third boat arrival.
- 10:28Speaker 5: As he prepares for a trip to South America, the
- 10:30Speaker 5: Prime Minister has rebuffed calls to take a detour and
- 10:34Speaker 5: meet with President elect Donald Trump on the way home.
- 10:37Speaker 7: Anthony Albanezi and Donald Trump had never met.
- 10:40Speaker 5: It's actually not on the way and despite the emergence
- 10:43Speaker 5: of these remarks from twenty twenty one.
- 10:46Speaker 7: And as the United States in the last four years
- 10:49Speaker 7: has been run by a village idiot as heaven.
- 10:51Speaker 5: Right, the right person to be US ambassador, Yes, brushing
- 10:54Speaker 5: off protesters south of Hobart than good. The Prime Minister
- 11:00Speaker 5: has named two high profile candidates for Tasmanian seats at
- 11:04Speaker 5: the next election, and Erkhart will resign from the Senates
- 11:07Speaker 5: to run in Braden, while Rebecca White, who lost three
- 11:11Speaker 5: consecutive elections as state Labor leader, has had a change
- 11:14Speaker 5: of heart to run in Lions.
- 11:16Speaker 3: Will you run for Lions in the federal Parliament? Would
- 11:19Speaker 3: you consider that? No? There have been conversations that have
- 11:22Speaker 3: happened since then. I know I have an enormous amount
- 11:25Speaker 3: to contribute.
- 11:25Speaker 5: Cameron Reddin's Sky News Canberra.
- 11:30Speaker 3: All right, plenty of stuff to get through.
- 11:31Speaker 2: I've joined now by media writer for The Australian, Sophie Ellsworth,
- 11:34Speaker 2: Sky News political reporter to Cam Reddin, Welcome to you both.
- 11:38Speaker 2: Speculation mounting about an early federal election.
- 11:41Speaker 3: You've heard this from me.
- 11:43Speaker 2: West Australian Premier Roger Cook is looking to move the
- 11:46Speaker 2: fixed state of his state's upcoming election that's currently scheduled
- 11:50Speaker 2: for March eight next year. Now, what this says loud
- 11:52Speaker 2: to me a very loud and clear cam. The PM
- 11:56Speaker 2: is on the nose in the West. He's a drag
- 11:59Speaker 2: on Labour's brand. And Cook wants to go first. Wants
- 12:03Speaker 2: the Prime Minister take the medicine from the voters and
- 12:06Speaker 2: hopefully that will then see his state Labor government perceived
- 12:10Speaker 2: by voters as.
- 12:11Speaker 3: Separate and distinct from Canberra.
- 12:14Speaker 2: Now, if he goes first, the wa Premier thinks, says,
- 12:18Speaker 2: baseball bats waiting for Labor and he'll cop them. He thinks, unfairly,
- 12:22Speaker 2: he wants the Prime Minister to take his medicine.
- 12:25Speaker 3: And the fact that this is public now.
- 12:26Speaker 2: The fact that he's looking to change the fixed term
- 12:29Speaker 2: legislation says to me, my god, their internal polling must
- 12:33Speaker 2: be diabolical.
- 12:36Speaker 5: You can imagine from Roger Cook's perspective he'd be thinking,
- 12:38Speaker 5: if I don't have to cop the whack, then why
- 12:40Speaker 5: would I If it's the difference of a week or two.
- 12:42Speaker 5: If the Prime Minister is to go in that first
- 12:44Speaker 5: quarter or so of next year, Peter, he does hold
- 12:47Speaker 5: fifty three or fifty nine seats in the West, so
- 12:49Speaker 5: unlikely to lose government. But even still if it gets closed,
- 12:52Speaker 5: why would you give your opponents any more leg up.
- 12:54Speaker 5: It's interesting the Prime Minister didn't completely hose this down
- 12:57Speaker 5: today only to say it's all speculation. My gut tells
- 13:01Speaker 5: me still that he'll want something to really grab onto
- 13:03Speaker 5: and crow about when it comes to economic news at
- 13:06Speaker 5: the beginning of next year. You think of those first
- 13:08Speaker 5: few months of twenty twenty five, Peter. I know it's
- 13:10Speaker 5: cricket season, but it's the premiership quarter really for the
- 13:13Speaker 5: Albanezy government. He'll have inflation data out right after Australia
- 13:16Speaker 5: Day and then two opportunities before April one for the
- 13:20Speaker 5: Reserve Bank to cut interest rates. Now, I'd be thinking
- 13:22Speaker 5: if the Prime Minister was to go in the first
- 13:24Speaker 5: week of March, he's really betting the house on February
- 13:28Speaker 5: eighteen for a rate cut. My gut tells me he
- 13:30Speaker 5: might want to wait a little bit longer into April.
- 13:33Speaker 5: Then the Reserve Bank would have two chances. I know
- 13:36Speaker 5: all the commercial banks think they'll go in February, but
- 13:38Speaker 5: if Michelle Bullok's just a little bit gun shy, it
- 13:40Speaker 5: would give them that one extra chance on April one.
- 13:43Speaker 5: But never say never. Stranger things have happened.
- 13:47Speaker 2: Yeah, the same commercial banks. I might add who said
- 13:49Speaker 2: we'd get a rate cup by the middle of the year.
- 13:51Speaker 2: They said we'd get a rate cup by October. That
- 13:53Speaker 2: said we'd get it on cup day, And of course
- 13:55Speaker 2: all of that's moved out, and we know that she's
- 13:57Speaker 2: focused on the underlying inflation and he's a treasurer focused
- 14:01Speaker 2: on the headline. The headline's a long way away from
- 14:04Speaker 2: when Michelle Bullock wants it to be. And she's pretty steely,
- 14:07Speaker 2: you know, Sophie, you've analyzed this along.
- 14:10Speaker 3: With me as well. I mean you look at her.
- 14:12Speaker 2: I think they thought, you know, she's been appointed by us,
- 14:14Speaker 2: she'll toe the line. Absolutely not. She's really steely, and
- 14:18Speaker 2: I want to pick up that grab. You know, the
- 14:20Speaker 2: Prime Minister today said we will call it in April
- 14:25Speaker 2: or earlier, and that's the first time he's given indication
- 14:28Speaker 2: that it will be called in March.
- 14:30Speaker 3: Or perhaps even February.
- 14:32Speaker 2: That's a real shift in language and I think that's
- 14:34Speaker 2: what's playing out with this wa speculation.
- 14:37Speaker 3: Sophie.
- 14:38Speaker 8: Absolutely, Peter, and this appears to be a Prime minister
- 14:42Speaker 8: that is now nervous and ready to pull the trigger
- 14:45Speaker 8: on the election. He looks already in campaign mode when
- 14:49Speaker 8: he had that gathering in Adelaide a couple of weeks ago,
- 14:52Speaker 8: that labor event, and the polls are not going in
- 14:56Speaker 8: his favor. So I think he is really looking at
- 15:00Speaker 8: things closely. And the move by the West Australian Premiere
- 15:04Speaker 8: is extremely interesting because Western Australians, I would imagine we
- 15:09Speaker 8: sick of elections if they have to go to the
- 15:11Speaker 8: polls twice in a short period of time.
- 15:14Speaker 3: You're not wrong.
- 15:15Speaker 2: Yesterday we had some poor polls again for the Prime Minister,
- 15:18Speaker 2: though the first time he hit a low lower than
- 15:22Speaker 2: Peter Dutton net satisfaction or dissatisfaction terms. Actually, the Resolve
- 15:26Speaker 2: poll out today is found there's a pox on the
- 15:29Speaker 2: Green's house as well. Their net likability has fallen into
- 15:33Speaker 2: negative nineteen and that's a massive drop of eighteen points
- 15:37Speaker 2: since the last election. At a band also on the nose,
- 15:40Speaker 2: his likability has tumbled some what is it fifteen points
- 15:44Speaker 2: is down negative fifteen. I have to say we saw
- 15:47Speaker 2: of his cam Is trend in Queensland. There was a
- 15:49Speaker 2: shift away from the Greens down in Socialist Victoria. They've
- 15:54Speaker 2: had some council elections the city of Yarra.
- 15:58Speaker 3: Which is ground zero for woke.
- 16:01Speaker 2: This is a hard left inner city Melbourne Borough.
- 16:05Speaker 3: They've gone backwards. They're the Greens. I suspect they're on
- 16:08Speaker 3: the nose right across the board and this.
- 16:10Speaker 2: Will be a problem for Labor because they rely on
- 16:12Speaker 2: the Greens preferences to get them over the line.
- 16:17Speaker 5: Yeah. One of the thoughts within the Greens, Peter is
- 16:20Speaker 5: that the Greens vote really benefits when Labor tries to
- 16:24Speaker 5: be a little bit more in the center, it isn't
- 16:26Speaker 5: as progressive. And when Labor tries to go a little
- 16:30Speaker 5: bit more ambitious, for lack of a better word, if
- 16:32Speaker 5: they try to be a little bit more of a
- 16:34Speaker 5: left wing progressive party, then that's when the Greens vote suffers.
- 16:37Speaker 5: And that's part of the explanation at least the Greens
- 16:39Speaker 5: have offered for why they performed so badly in Queensland.
- 16:43Speaker 5: That the Queensland Miles government was putting forward ideas like
- 16:46Speaker 5: free school lunches and fifty cent fares, basically free public transport,
- 16:50Speaker 5: and the Greens view, or their explanation, was that that
- 16:53Speaker 5: hurt their vote because some of the Greens votes shifted
- 16:56Speaker 5: back to Labor and those who were disgruntled with Labor
- 16:59Speaker 5: in the past that they weren't progressive enough, weren't voting
- 17:02Speaker 5: green this time around, so that's part of their thinking.
- 17:04Speaker 5: The big challenge, though, as you point out, for this
- 17:06Speaker 5: coming federal election won't just be where the Greens are
- 17:09Speaker 5: trying to play attack, but they're also going to have
- 17:11Speaker 5: to play defensive really for the first time in seats
- 17:14Speaker 5: like Ryan and Brisbane that they hadn't held before. Those
- 17:18Speaker 5: are two very low profile MPs, You've got to say
- 17:20Speaker 5: in the lower House, Peter and the Liberals in particular
- 17:23Speaker 5: are red hot on their chances in Ryan. They think
- 17:26Speaker 5: that's almost in their column already. So it'll be a
- 17:29Speaker 5: challenge for the Greens as a political movement because if
- 17:32Speaker 5: Labor isn't going to go full steam ahead as a progressive,
- 17:36Speaker 5: left wing strong party with those sorts of ideas, then
- 17:39Speaker 5: do the Greens hold on to their vote orders that correct,
- 17:42Speaker 5: if you like, back to the Labor column as it
- 17:44Speaker 5: had been in previous elections.
- 17:48Speaker 2: Very good point, can because when political parties have had
- 17:50Speaker 2: that blow torch applied on them, particular the minor parties,
- 17:53Speaker 2: they tend to buckle with some of that pressure. It's
- 17:55Speaker 2: been a trend of only ever up for the Greens.
- 18:00Speaker 2: This will I think put pressure on their internal factions.
- 18:03Speaker 3: Let's go to those comments.
- 18:04Speaker 2: So from and to me constitutional law expert, I know
- 18:07Speaker 2: you've got a legal background. To me, is no right
- 18:11Speaker 2: wing apologist right to me coming out and saying I
- 18:14Speaker 2: am alarmed about the constitutional risk. I'm alarmed about these
- 18:19Speaker 2: laws misinformation, disinformation, undermining democracy as citing concerns about protecting
- 18:25Speaker 2: the implied right of political communication. It wasn't so long
- 18:30Speaker 2: ago we had the very left landing Victorian Bar Association
- 18:32Speaker 2: express their concerns.
- 18:35Speaker 3: Now to me, I mean, this is.
- 18:37Speaker 2: A shocking bill, but it's already through the House, it's
- 18:40Speaker 2: now before the Senate.
- 18:42Speaker 8: Well that's a concern Peter and Australians should be worried.
- 18:45Speaker 8: Who are going to be these faithless arbiters to decide
- 18:49Speaker 8: what is right and wrong on online platforms.
- 18:53Speaker 3: I think that is a very.
- 18:54Speaker 8: Concerning state of affairs. And you know, I think you'll
- 18:59Speaker 8: see if this does pass, you will now see some
- 19:04Speaker 8: pretty serious censorship. I suspect of people's views, and we
- 19:09Speaker 8: know that largely a lot of social media platforms do
- 19:12Speaker 8: lean to the left, so they're not going to like
- 19:15Speaker 8: right leaning views. So I think the government really needs
- 19:19Speaker 8: to assess this, and I think the politicians need to
- 19:22Speaker 8: think twice before this sales through.
- 19:25Speaker 2: I think anyone at home needs to send a very
- 19:27Speaker 2: clear message to their parliamentarian, the senators and hit the phones.
- 19:31Speaker 2: This is a real push to have it through Parliament
- 19:34Speaker 2: by the end of the year. We only just commemorated
- 19:37Speaker 2: Remembrance Day yesterday, of course, but there's anger today. Federal
- 19:41Speaker 2: government has axed funds to provide headstones for the private
- 19:45Speaker 2: graves of World War One veterans.
- 19:48Speaker 3: Now Labor had pledged.
- 19:50Speaker 2: To match the coalition's funding as part of their twenty
- 19:53Speaker 2: twenty two election campaign, but it was revealed at Senate
- 19:57Speaker 2: estimates this week that the nearly four million dollars in
- 20:00Speaker 2: funds had been slashed cam ridden to less than five
- 20:05Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars. It's a disgrace that this has just come.
- 20:09Speaker 5: Out, yeah, and it's something that will hurt veterans communities.
- 20:13Speaker 5: You would think as well, Petter, because a lot of
- 20:15Speaker 5: money does go into not just the installation of these,
- 20:18Speaker 5: but reparations as well, and tender love and care and
- 20:21Speaker 5: all the sorts of things that you would expect in
- 20:24Speaker 5: terms of keeping these pretty sacred sites up to scratch
- 20:28Speaker 5: as they should be. I'll be curious to see a
- 20:30Speaker 5: more thorough explanation of this. And that's the sort of
- 20:32Speaker 5: thing that centered estimates is good for because it raises
- 20:35Speaker 5: these issues that can then be prosecuted and we get
- 20:37Speaker 5: to the decision making processes behind these. I know that
- 20:40Speaker 5: more questions have been asked of the departments in terms
- 20:43Speaker 5: of why those decisions were made. And between now and
- 20:46Speaker 5: the end of the month, which is the final two
- 20:48Speaker 5: weeks of Parliament, to come over the next fortnight, I'm
- 20:50Speaker 5: sure we'll get a better explanation. But it does raise
- 20:53Speaker 5: your eyebrows when this sort of funding money gets thrown
- 20:55Speaker 5: around all over the places. You wonder why that this
- 20:58Speaker 5: is the area that would have been chosen to be cut.
- 21:03Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I just make the point given my experience.
- 21:06Speaker 2: I mean, four million dollars over three years. His chicken
- 21:10Speaker 2: feeds to the Commonwealth Government, the Prime Minister's office, just
- 21:13Speaker 2: his staff alone, not all his properties, not his selly,
- 21:16Speaker 2: nothing like that. That's fourteen million dollars per annum. And
- 21:19Speaker 2: this is four million over three years. And this is
- 21:23Speaker 2: our war dead, and this is a headstone for our
- 21:25Speaker 2: war dead. I think it's disgusting. I think it needs
- 21:27Speaker 2: to be reversed. I'll leave it there, gents, No one
- 21:30Speaker 2: gent and one lady with the green memo.
- 21:33Speaker 3: Leave it there and we'll catch up with so for two.
- 21:34Speaker 2: When she moves to the UK, we're thrilled to congratulate
- 21:37Speaker 2: her on her new role with Ughs Court. But she
- 21:39Speaker 2: will stay here thankfully as a regular on Credline.
- 21:43Speaker 3: All right, Let's move.
- 21:44Speaker 2: Now to an issue that's got significant impact right across
- 21:47Speaker 2: the country, as more and more national and state parks
- 21:51Speaker 2: are using the cover of Indigenous heritage to lock out
- 21:54Speaker 2: Australians from accessing these natural wonders, which are rightly the
- 21:59Speaker 2: birth right of every one of us. The latest example
- 22:03Speaker 2: of this race based madness is in Victoria, where access
- 22:08Speaker 2: and rock climbing bands have been put in place at
- 22:11Speaker 2: Mount Rapolis. This is in the Grampians, ostensibly to protect
- 22:15Speaker 2: indigenous artifacts, but as The Australian reports today, some of
- 22:19Speaker 2: this rock art is so degraded and faded it's invisible
- 22:24Speaker 2: to the naked eye. Already less publicized, but equally important
- 22:28Speaker 2: is what's going on in Victorian high Country, where the
- 22:31Speaker 2: state labor government is pushing for what they call the
- 22:34Speaker 2: Great Forest National Park. Since twenty seventeen, momentum has gathered
- 22:40Speaker 2: around a campaign to stop this national park, with locals
- 22:45Speaker 2: feeling left out of the consultation process, something of which
- 22:49Speaker 2: is a common theme in regional communities. And pleased to
- 22:52Speaker 2: say that. One of the organizers of this campaign, doctor
- 22:55Speaker 2: David Barton, joins me. Now, David, thank you for your time.
- 23:01Speaker 2: I'm really interested in what's happening in Victoria, but I
- 23:05Speaker 2: want to make the point to everyone from around the country.
- 23:08Speaker 3: It's happening in your state. You might not know about
- 23:10Speaker 3: it yet, and it.
- 23:12Speaker 2: Will build a momentum because Victoria is the petri dish
- 23:16Speaker 2: for the left in Australia. Earlier this year at the
- 23:19Speaker 2: Bush Summer, the Victorian Premier just Center Allen said, we're
- 23:24Speaker 2: not locking up the land.
- 23:25Speaker 3: She said this, have a listen. I want to be
- 23:27Speaker 3: very clear, as Premier and as.
- 23:29Speaker 6: A proud country Victorian, I won't be putting a padlock
- 23:33Speaker 6: on our public forests.
- 23:34Speaker 3: It's not who I am, it's not what I believe in.
- 23:38Speaker 3: But that's not your experience, is it.
- 23:42Speaker 9: Well, I think the Premier has been rather disingenuous here.
- 23:45Speaker 9: I mean not only the locking out about to fifty
- 23:49Speaker 9: percent of our climbs and laboris. But we're also now
- 23:52Speaker 9: saying that moves towards the locking up of the Wombat
- 23:57Speaker 9: State Forest, the Mount Bwanga, Moutol and Murdered areas, which
- 24:01Speaker 9: are possibly going to be pres edited as new national
- 24:04Speaker 9: parks as early as the end of this year. And
- 24:07Speaker 9: of course you're seeing the so called investigations into the
- 24:12Speaker 9: Great Forest National Park continuing aunnovated. So I think the
- 24:16Speaker 9: Premier simply cannot be believed.
- 24:20Speaker 2: What clarity can you give us or are you aware
- 24:23Speaker 2: of around this concept of the Great Forest National Park?
- 24:27Speaker 3: What's it going to mean for everyday people?
- 24:31Speaker 9: Man large areas of the land will be locked up.
- 24:35Speaker 9: Around the central highlands of Victoria. You will see massive
- 24:40Speaker 9: permanent road and track closures which will be obviously a
- 24:44Speaker 9: fire has it. We'll see the end of free camping
- 24:47Speaker 9: and obviously there'll be severe restrictions on the ability of
- 24:51Speaker 9: full drivers, trailbike riders, hunters, prospectors and other campers to
- 24:58Speaker 9: be actually able to there's lands anymore. And of course
- 25:03Speaker 9: what's really crazy about this is that the state government
- 25:06Speaker 9: will lock up the whole area of the Jamison from
- 25:09Speaker 9: Walhalla Goldfield is bult which is one of the richest
- 25:13Speaker 9: gold through areas in the world, and will not allow
- 25:17Speaker 9: any more prospecting and mining in those areas. And one
- 25:22Speaker 9: would have thought that a government that's nearly broke would
- 25:25Speaker 9: be really interested in further utilizing some of the best
- 25:28Speaker 9: resources that the state's got.
- 25:33Speaker 2: They say it's about conservation, but what's been the consultation
- 25:37Speaker 2: with local communities who, as we both know David, really
- 25:41Speaker 2: rely on tourism in these areas.
- 25:45Speaker 9: It's been very little consultational tool. And what we've seen
- 25:49Speaker 9: happening behind the scenes see gradual transfer of public land
- 25:53Speaker 9: into private corporations. So what's happening is that what was
- 25:57Speaker 9: once public land is now being handed over in the
- 26:00Speaker 9: freehold title or what's known as Aboriginal title, to what
- 26:04Speaker 9: are essentially private Aboriginal corporations who have now become the
- 26:09Speaker 9: landowners of these national parks and forests. And of course,
- 26:13Speaker 9: with the federal government's new Nature repair market, these organizations
- 26:18Speaker 9: are now eligible for biodiversity certificates. Those certificates can be
- 26:24Speaker 9: bought and sold traded on the international climate market. So
- 26:28Speaker 9: we're seeing this transfer of land which was once public
- 26:31Speaker 9: land moving into private corporations that then can be monetized
- 26:35Speaker 9: for personal gain to those private corporations, and I'm really
- 26:39Speaker 9: not sure that that's what the citizens of Victoria want
- 26:42Speaker 9: to be seeing happen to their public plan.
- 26:47Speaker 2: This use of public private sorry it's a public property,
- 26:53Speaker 2: common land, and the monetization of it for climate permits
- 26:59Speaker 2: that's happening in Bigtoria. Where can people go to learn
- 27:03Speaker 2: more about this? I know that you've got a bit
- 27:04Speaker 2: of a Facebook group happening, but I'm sure my audience
- 27:09Speaker 2: are hungry to know more.
- 27:10Speaker 9: David Well, yes, there's nineteen thousand followers now on the
- 27:16Speaker 9: Victorians Against the Great Forest National Park is also an
- 27:22Speaker 9: Internet site, Victorians against the Great Forest Park. And really
- 27:27Speaker 9: i'd encourage people to go and speak to their local
- 27:29Speaker 9: members of parliament bed the landscape and express your concerns
- 27:33Speaker 9: about this and find out what's happening in your backyard
- 27:36Speaker 9: and get active about it to stop this this sort
- 27:38Speaker 9: of thing happening.
- 27:41Speaker 2: We'll come back to that one, because I know my
- 27:43Speaker 2: audience is well across the Lockinggown the park for indigenous
- 27:47Speaker 2: heritage reasons, but I think many are we surprised tonight
- 27:50Speaker 2: about the use of this park basically to sell carbon
- 27:53Speaker 2: sink permits to potentially foreign players. Doctor David Barton, thank
- 27:58Speaker 2: you for your time.
- 28:00Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna have a quick break.
- 28:01Speaker 2: We'll come into those Labour's signature one billion dollar deal.
- 28:04Speaker 2: This is the PSI Quantum deal in Queensland.
- 28:09Speaker 3: It doesn't stack.
- 28:10Speaker 2: Up and unsurprisingly the Christophilier government looks ready to dump it.
- 28:15Speaker 2: Plussed exclusive look at Chris Yeorman's upcoming documentary with growing
- 28:18Speaker 2: alarm over our gas shortage, despite it being the only
- 28:22Speaker 2: viable backup to renewables welcome back still to come. Trump's
- 28:31Speaker 2: flurry of appointments to top spots highlight very clearly the
- 28:35Speaker 2: thought of cabinet he wants and how quickly he intends
- 28:38Speaker 2: to move on with his commitments. But first two reports
- 28:41Speaker 2: today that the new Queensland government could renege on its
- 28:45Speaker 2: predecessor's deal to give nearly half a billion dollars in
- 28:48Speaker 2: partnership with the federal government to the US based startup
- 28:52Speaker 2: PSIGH Quantum, seeking to create the world's first viable quantum computer.
- 28:57Speaker 3: Now, from day one, this billion.
- 28:59Speaker 2: Dollar tax payer giveaway has stunk to high heaven. If
- 29:03Speaker 2: it was such a good deal, why the need for
- 29:06Speaker 2: a billion dollar subsidy. If it stood up, why wasn't
- 29:10Speaker 2: there an open tender process? Now, on the evidence so far,
- 29:13Speaker 2: it seems that this business could be better at connecting
- 29:16Speaker 2: with labor lobbyists than wisely spending those many millions. Businesses
- 29:22Speaker 2: that need taxpayer support usually make us poorer.
- 29:26Speaker 3: Not richer.
- 29:29Speaker 2: Just doesn't get it. There's no such thing as government money.
- 29:33Speaker 2: It's our money that they take from us, and when
- 29:36Speaker 2: they waste it, the money.
- 29:37Speaker 3: That we work so hard to earn.
- 29:40Speaker 2: Well, nothing gets us more worked up jointed to me
- 29:43Speaker 2: now to discuss this and more, and is in particular
- 29:46Speaker 2: his new documentary coming up Skyney Is contributor Chris Yelman. Chris,
- 29:51Speaker 2: I have to say, you know, a billion dollars in
- 29:54Speaker 2: subsidies to something that's not ever been built to scale,
- 29:57Speaker 2: where there are real probity concerns of there awarding of
- 30:01Speaker 2: that contract.
- 30:03Speaker 3: I can't even call it a tender.
- 30:05Speaker 2: It didn't go through the usual tender processes that I'm
- 30:08Speaker 2: experienced with in government. What do you make of this
- 30:12Speaker 2: move that it looks like today that the Queensland State
- 30:15Speaker 2: government is going to walk away?
- 30:19Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 30:19Speaker 1: Well, Peter, what do we know about this deal. We
- 30:21Speaker 1: know that there was an expression of interest issued last
- 30:23Speaker 1: year by the government to try and get people in
- 30:25Speaker 1: the quantum industry to put forward for a project like this.
- 30:29Speaker 1: We know that PSI Quantum wasn't part of that. While
- 30:31Speaker 1: others were putting it forward their proposals, PSI Quantum was
- 30:34Speaker 1: already in discussions with the Australian government and the Industry
- 30:38Speaker 1: Department had already set up a task force to review it,
- 30:42Speaker 1: so it wasn't part of that project at all. We
- 30:44Speaker 1: also know that there was a relationship between someone in
- 30:46Speaker 1: the Minister's office and someone involved in the venture capitalists
- 30:49Speaker 1: that's behind this company. Now none of that necessarily means anything.
- 30:53Speaker 1: It could be all squeaky clean, but of course, like
- 30:56Speaker 1: so many government contracts in Australia at a state and
- 30:58Speaker 1: federal level, we just don't know Peter, and that's the problem.
- 31:01Speaker 1: Too often, commercial in confidence is used to disguise things,
- 31:05Speaker 1: and a little bit of sunlight would go a long way.
- 31:07Speaker 1: If we were in the United States, there would be
- 31:09Speaker 1: a whole lot more scrutiny of this kind of deal,
- 31:12Speaker 1: and a whole lot more stuff would have.
- 31:13Speaker 3: To be public.
- 31:16Speaker 2: I was just talking to a guest on the program
- 31:18Speaker 2: a moment ago, doctor David Barton about the locking up
- 31:21Speaker 2: of state national parks around the country.
- 31:24Speaker 3: It's happening everywhere.
- 31:25Speaker 2: They're either being used for wind turbine placement or the
- 31:29Speaker 2: being closed down for indigenous heritage reasons, as we see
- 31:34Speaker 2: with a rock climbing place in the Grampians. But he
- 31:37Speaker 2: was also talking about the sale of or land being
- 31:42Speaker 2: made available to private companies to then sell carbon permits,
- 31:48Speaker 2: basically turning parks into carbon six.
- 31:52Speaker 1: What sort of knowledge do you have of this, Peter,
- 31:56Speaker 1: I don't have much knowledge about that at all, but
- 31:58Speaker 1: I will say that many many of the government departments
- 32:00Speaker 1: that we have now seen to be operating more as
- 32:03Speaker 1: activists than they are as departments. One difference between Australia
- 32:06Speaker 1: and the United States, and something I didn't think was
- 32:08Speaker 1: a good thing about the US. When the president comes in,
- 32:11Speaker 1: he'll simply clean out and an enormous amount of the
- 32:13Speaker 1: bureaucracy and put his own people in.
- 32:15Speaker 3: And I was.
- 32:15Speaker 1: Always in favor of a bureaucracy that was frank and
- 32:18Speaker 1: fearless and its advice. But I'm sorry, I feel at
- 32:21Speaker 1: the moment that it's too much captured by a whole
- 32:24Speaker 1: lot of vested interests and too much again is going
- 32:26Speaker 1: on behind closed doors. There are decisions being made by
- 32:29Speaker 1: bureaucrats that are having lives effects on the lives of
- 32:31Speaker 1: ordin the Australians, and there is no transparency about what's
- 32:34Speaker 1: going on.
- 32:37Speaker 2: Sometimes I think Chris is no line of sight even
- 32:39Speaker 2: from the Minister. I think the delegated powers to some
- 32:42Speaker 2: of these chief bureaucrats are being signed off quite legally,
- 32:46Speaker 2: but governments are not aware of what's going on. Let's
- 32:49Speaker 2: go to your documentary. Of course, it's going to air
- 32:51Speaker 2: here on Sky News next Tuesday. Because all the experts
- 32:54Speaker 2: are saying that the gas is the only backstop we
- 32:58Speaker 2: have at scale to keep the lights on as we
- 33:01Speaker 2: head down the path of net zero.
- 33:03Speaker 3: Have a listen.
- 33:04Speaker 10: We will have batteries, we will have pumped hydro, but
- 33:07Speaker 10: we'll have times like we've seen earlier this year where
- 33:11Speaker 10: there's not much wind and there's not much sun and
- 33:14Speaker 10: the gas find power stations are really required to back
- 33:18Speaker 10: up the reliability of the green and.
- 33:21Speaker 1: That's a big problem because Australia's East coast is running
- 33:24Speaker 1: out of gas.
- 33:26Speaker 11: Just go to the report of the Energy Market Operator
- 33:28Speaker 11: who said that energy shortfalls are likely as early as
- 33:31Speaker 11: next year. There was a warning earlier this winter saying
- 33:34Speaker 11: we're approaching the crisis points. So I think we're dangerously
- 33:38Speaker 11: close to that point already.
- 33:42Speaker 3: So we're running out of gas, Chris.
- 33:44Speaker 2: But the issue is in gas in the ground or
- 33:48Speaker 2: austraight as supply of gas. It's the availability of gas,
- 33:52Speaker 2: and that's a very different thing.
- 33:56Speaker 3: Yes, Peter.
- 33:56Speaker 1: And we've made gas rare and how we made gas
- 33:59Speaker 1: rare because Victoria banned the exploration of gas for a decade,
- 34:03Speaker 1: and that's what Meg O'Neil was saying. There money goes
- 34:09Speaker 1: where it's welcome, and gas wasn't welcome in Victoria. New
- 34:12Speaker 1: South Wales has been not much better at all. And
- 34:15Speaker 1: both of them are bleeding for gas that comes from Queensland,
- 34:17Speaker 1: from coal seam gas, and of course Victoria has a
- 34:19Speaker 1: ban on coal seam gas in Victoria even though it's
- 34:22Speaker 1: got gas under its own feet. Look, it would be
- 34:25Speaker 1: hard to make up what a mess we have made
- 34:28Speaker 1: of the electricity sector as we try to decarbonize. But
- 34:32Speaker 1: I'll point this out is that the Energy Minister who's
- 34:36Speaker 1: now off overseas about this time last year told the
- 34:38Speaker 1: cop conference, that's the Council of Parties, that's the jamboree
- 34:41Speaker 1: they go to every year, that fossil fuel had no
- 34:43Speaker 1: ongoing role in Australia's electricity generation. Well, he didn't seem
- 34:48Speaker 1: to understand the system that he was building, because the
- 34:50Speaker 1: system that he's building demands gas and lots of it,
- 34:53Speaker 1: fifteen gigawatts, enough to back up fifteen million homes. So
- 34:57Speaker 1: this is not, as I say, a backup, this is
- 34:59Speaker 1: a backbone of the system. This system will not function
- 35:03Speaker 1: as a reliable electricity grid unless it has a fossil
- 35:06Speaker 1: fuel in the system to twenty fifty and beyond.
- 35:11Speaker 2: So I've made the point at the top of the show, Chris.
- 35:14Speaker 2: We've got an election due by May. We've got a
- 35:17Speaker 2: budget in March. We've got the Prime Minister today saying
- 35:20Speaker 2: he'll call it in April. No surprises in April, he says,
- 35:25Speaker 2: or before, which falls into my argument they're going to
- 35:30Speaker 2: have to go early because I think they've got two
- 35:32Speaker 2: key dates looming in February. One is the twenty thirty
- 35:36Speaker 2: five emissions reduction targets. We're working to the twenty thirty targets. Now,
- 35:41Speaker 2: those twenty thirty targets are tough. That's why our power
- 35:44Speaker 2: prices are going up. They will only get worse for
- 35:48Speaker 2: twenty thirty five because they've got to really go hard
- 35:51Speaker 2: on two things the food we eat, agriculture and also transport.
- 35:56Speaker 2: But allied with that most twenty five five just mentioned
- 36:01Speaker 2: sorry that the default market offer, this is what we
- 36:04Speaker 2: will pay for power prices in the short term. Both
- 36:08Speaker 2: of those are due and that would be a shocking
- 36:11Speaker 2: start to an election campaign.
- 36:15Speaker 1: Well, electricity prices are going up, and that's what our
- 36:17Speaker 1: documentary will tell people, and we will tell people why
- 36:19Speaker 1: those electricity prices are going up and why they must
- 36:21Speaker 1: go up because of the kind of system that we're building.
- 36:23Speaker 1: The two things that you need to know about this system.
- 36:26Speaker 1: It will be expensive and it will be unreliable. And
- 36:29Speaker 1: the people that are building it, I don't believe actually
- 36:31Speaker 1: understood what they were doing when they were building it.
- 36:34Speaker 1: Because the people who demonized gas, Victorian New South Wales
- 36:38Speaker 1: and the Energy and Climate Change Minister were the people
- 36:42Speaker 1: who are demonizing gas. Now they can't get enough. Their
- 36:44Speaker 1: system operator is demanding that they get as much as
- 36:47Speaker 1: they possibly can between now and twenty fifty to keep
- 36:50Speaker 1: the lights on. So one of the things that's culpled
- 36:52Speaker 1: about this, Peter is I genuinely think the people that
- 36:55Speaker 1: talk about this all the time have no idea, no
- 36:58Speaker 1: understanding what they're talking about. But guess what physics is
- 37:01Speaker 1: going to platitudes all the time.
- 37:07Speaker 2: They make it all sound very complex because they don't
- 37:09Speaker 2: when people at home understand what's going on. Chris, that's
- 37:13Speaker 2: precisely why I'm really looking forward to this doco. I
- 37:16Speaker 2: can't believe you've got Daniel Westerman on camera. He doesn't
- 37:19Speaker 2: do a lot of media. I'll look forward to seeing
- 37:21Speaker 2: it and thank you for your time there. It is
- 37:24Speaker 2: that documentary. Do not forget to watch it Tuesday, the
- 37:27Speaker 2: nineteenth of November, next Tuesday, eight o'clock Eastern daylight time.
- 37:32Speaker 2: I'm sure it'll be the first of many from Chris Uoman.
- 37:36Speaker 2: All right, after the break, the new President elect, Donald
- 37:38Speaker 2: Trump wasting no time with some key senior positions already filled,
- 37:42Speaker 2: make it very clear is going to stick to his
- 37:44Speaker 2: America First agenda. Well, surely after such a comprehensive loss,
- 37:49Speaker 2: Kamala Harris, that political career is done.
- 37:52Speaker 3: And dusted, or is it? The panel? After the break?
- 38:00Speaker 3: All right, let's bring in my panels. I want to
- 38:02Speaker 3: talk about a whole range of things.
- 38:04Speaker 2: The swing states in the lead up, no one thought
- 38:06Speaker 2: they would all be collected by one of the players,
- 38:09Speaker 2: but they were. Donald Trump pulling off a queen clean sweep,
- 38:14Speaker 2: winning all seven. The transition team voluntarily underway. They are
- 38:18Speaker 2: already talking about the largest mass deportation in US history,
- 38:24Speaker 2: basically on day one. The president alex also expected to
- 38:27Speaker 2: reverse some of the Biden administration's climate policies. Well, hallelujah
- 38:31Speaker 2: to that, and introduced tariffs on imported goods. Let's bring
- 38:35Speaker 2: in the panel out to discuss the US election and more.
- 38:38Speaker 2: Sky and Is contributed Kosher Gada and the past chair
- 38:41Speaker 2: of the Parliament's Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, Michael Danby.
- 38:45Speaker 3: Well, well, well it's the wash up.
- 38:46Speaker 2: We could keep talking about it for reverend and ever
- 38:48Speaker 2: because so many people got wrong, they left. The mainstream
- 38:52Speaker 2: media are delightful in their hysteria in recent days.
- 38:56Speaker 3: I'm sure you're enjoying it as much as we are.
- 38:58Speaker 2: Were you surprised at Kosha by the skil of this weed?
- 39:03Speaker 12: Yes and no, so I think probabilistically it was such
- 39:06Speaker 12: a toss up and We were saying that up until
- 39:08Speaker 12: the bitter end, but the fundamentals were so different. It
- 39:11Speaker 12: was such a high contrast election that the connective tissue
- 39:14Speaker 12: between the different states can run through them and does
- 39:18Speaker 12: run through them when it's such a fundamental issue set
- 39:20Speaker 12: at play as this was economy, immigration, inflation, foreign policy,
- 39:23Speaker 12: et cetera. And there was a thinking that if there's
- 39:26Speaker 12: a rising tide phenomenon, and if you start to see
- 39:28Speaker 12: the momentum on those issues moving in one direction, then
- 39:31Speaker 12: it'll pull all of them in it. But it is
- 39:33Speaker 12: that said, it is remarkable if you think about not
- 39:36Speaker 12: just the seven states, but how much the popular vote
- 39:38Speaker 12: is huge.
- 39:39Speaker 7: So there was a beigtween in California and nu Ja.
- 39:41Speaker 12: Every single county moved towards him, Every single demographic group
- 39:45Speaker 12: moved towards him. That I think is quite stunning, and
- 39:48Speaker 12: just given how fragmented the electro it is, it hasn't
- 39:51Speaker 12: happened since Reagan years nineteen eighty eight, so that is
- 39:53Speaker 12: quite stunning.
- 39:54Speaker 7: That really ahead in the bronx. Who's indicative?
- 39:56Speaker 2: I think I was ready analysis IV and I said
- 39:58Speaker 2: that this will be even bigger. This is the biggest
- 40:01Speaker 2: sort of demographic popular vote win as surpassing even the
- 40:05Speaker 2: Reagan period.
- 40:06Speaker 3: Is that right, Michael Well.
- 40:07Speaker 7: I think it's the biggest swing of demographics that haven't
- 40:11Speaker 7: swung before, young black men, Hispanics. He's done better than
- 40:17Speaker 7: George Bush in some areas. And if they permanently stay
- 40:21Speaker 7: in a Republican coalition, it's very bad for the Democrats.
- 40:23Speaker 7: And I think that woke agenda of the left wing
- 40:27Speaker 7: Democrats pushed on mainstream Democrats has been killing them and
- 40:31Speaker 7: it has the same effect here. So there are lessons
- 40:33Speaker 7: from you know, the result there for here, although.
- 40:37Speaker 3: Labor like a monkey's on the bench.
- 40:39Speaker 2: You know, don't see, you don't watch, don't know, nothing to.
- 40:42Speaker 7: Do with us, Go work, go politically broke one.
- 40:45Speaker 2: Talk to me about Tim Homan, this will be the
- 40:48Speaker 2: new borders. Are a former police officer, former immigration official.
- 40:53Speaker 2: A lot of people are a big rap for him.
- 40:56Speaker 3: What do we know about him?
- 40:57Speaker 7: Well, he's been on Fox News the ensuing year since
- 41:00Speaker 7: he's been critical of the Biden administration. I think he
- 41:04Speaker 7: was the ICE director beforehand, and he is going to
- 41:08Speaker 7: do what the presidents will. You know, particularly focus on
- 41:13Speaker 7: criminal people who've come into the United States who were
- 41:18Speaker 7: involved in murdering, raping or robbing, and they'll be the
- 41:24Speaker 7: first out and people will have little sympathy for them,
- 41:27Speaker 7: and they're playing a strong card if you ask me.
- 41:29Speaker 7: We had that huge debate here in Australia about you know,
- 41:33Speaker 7: both political parties determining that Australia will determine who is
- 41:37Speaker 7: going to say who comes to this country and the
- 41:39Speaker 7: fact that Peter dunn't' spicking up on people who who
- 41:43Speaker 7: are getting in under the radar is very bad for
- 41:47Speaker 7: the government.
- 41:47Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 41:48Speaker 2: Interesting, you know, for all the talk that he hates
- 41:49Speaker 2: women and women finally polarizing, he has appointed a female
- 41:54Speaker 2: chief of staff. I think we'd have to go back
- 41:56Speaker 2: a long way, if at all, to say is there
- 41:58Speaker 2: a slight we can start?
- 41:59Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 41:59Speaker 2: I think it's the first one, full stop. Certainly the
- 42:01Speaker 2: first one on the Republican side, female chief of staff.
- 42:05Speaker 2: But also he's put another woman back in the UN job.
- 42:08Speaker 2: That's the job that the rest of the world also
- 42:10Speaker 2: cares about. There's a strong UN ambassador for the United States.
- 42:14Speaker 2: What do we know about at least defining.
- 42:16Speaker 12: A's congressman from New York, Ele Stefani. She's interesting because
- 42:19Speaker 12: she's been on a little bit of a journey when
- 42:21Speaker 12: she first came out onto the sea, and she wasn't
- 42:23Speaker 12: exactly a Trump lover, but soon she did actually realize
- 42:27Speaker 12: and embrace the populist nationalism message of his and that
- 42:30Speaker 12: brand of Republican politics, and where she comes from an
- 42:33Speaker 12: upstate New York, that is what the people want. So
- 42:36Speaker 12: she recognized that and pretty quickly became a stalwart loyalist
- 42:39Speaker 12: of his. She also rose to prominence with those interrogations
- 42:42Speaker 12: on the college campuses and the anti Semitic protests and
- 42:45Speaker 12: how that was mishandled, and she very masterfully questioned.
- 42:48Speaker 7: That's the point that the ABC John Lyons, who is
- 42:52Speaker 7: bagging her on the ABC network, of course, doesn't mention,
- 42:55Speaker 7: so he doesn't mention what she's known for. He just
- 42:57Speaker 7: mentions the fact that she's now a trumpet. So it's
- 43:00Speaker 7: just one.
- 43:01Speaker 3: Eyed, keep moving.
- 43:02Speaker 2: I want to mention that there's a climate skeptic going
- 43:05Speaker 2: in to run the EPA Lalalo to that. But also
- 43:08Speaker 2: Mike Pompeo, Nicki Haley, they're not part of the mix. Haighy,
- 43:11Speaker 2: I can I can see why. But Pompeo, that's about JD. Vance.
- 43:16Speaker 3: That's taking away any chance that Pompeio will build or
- 43:20Speaker 3: renewed a renewed.
- 43:22Speaker 2: Brand to challenge Vans at the end of the president's term.
- 43:26Speaker 7: It's very sad because I think Pompeo would have given
- 43:28Speaker 7: the Trump administration international continuity. And it's part of a
- 43:31Speaker 7: campaign which I think is very unfortunate. It's a minor
- 43:34Speaker 7: influence the isolationist Tucker Carson influence who's been running ann
- 43:39Speaker 7: enormously vicious campaign against Pompeio. But you know these things.
- 43:43Speaker 7: Marco Rubio, maybe Secretary of State, his mainstream Lee Zelden,
- 43:47Speaker 7: who you were talking about, the former New Yorker candidate
- 43:49Speaker 7: for governor, he's main stream. He was a congressman there.
- 43:53Speaker 7: You know, they're they're questioning the Chris Bowen agenda in
- 43:57Speaker 7: the United States, and good luck to them.
- 43:59Speaker 2: Blood letting them Democrat side. She's gone, is she? Surely
- 44:01Speaker 2: Harris at the end of Harris.
- 44:03Speaker 12: I think her political career on the national stage, if
- 44:05Speaker 12: she never really had one, she never got out of
- 44:07Speaker 12: the geed successfully, it's over. I wouldn't be surprised if
- 44:09Speaker 12: she gets some kind of qushy job somewhere, the president
- 44:11Speaker 12: of university or her book tour or something like that,
- 44:14Speaker 12: because they tend to take care of their own.
- 44:15Speaker 3: But politically, I think she's done.
- 44:17Speaker 2: And all the celebrities we find out today a lot
- 44:19Speaker 2: were paid to spreak for her. But George Clooney is
- 44:22Speaker 2: looking his wounds. He says he's out of politics.
- 44:24Speaker 7: Now, well he should be. George Clooney the political history
- 44:27Speaker 7: of George Clooney running the big fundraiser for Biden in
- 44:32Speaker 7: Los Angeles, and then Biden was said he was going
- 44:36Speaker 7: to question that International Criminal Court, which Amalle Clooney is on.
- 44:40Speaker 7: George rings up Biden and shouts and screams at him,
- 44:43Speaker 7: and Biden drops that plan. I'm glad he's getting out
- 44:46Speaker 7: of politics. It's undue influence of a person that doesn't
- 44:49Speaker 7: know what he's talking about.
- 44:50Speaker 2: Stick tacting well if he's that good anyway, all right,
- 44:53Speaker 2: I live there, Thank you very much.
- 44:54Speaker 3: It's eleven quick break out for the break some good news.
- 44:58Speaker 2: I want to show you something that make a huge
- 45:01Speaker 2: practical difference to women doing it tough. After the break, well,
- 45:10Speaker 2: welcome back. You don't need me to tell you people
- 45:12Speaker 2: are doing it tough in Australia at the moment. But
- 45:14Speaker 2: I love to learn about a charity that offers a
- 45:17Speaker 2: hand up, not just a hand out, And when I
- 45:20Speaker 2: heard about the work of my next guest and her organization,
- 45:24Speaker 2: it was something I wanted to share with you. Fitted
- 45:27Speaker 2: to Work is a charity that's based in Melbourne, but
- 45:30Speaker 2: it's got a national footprint and it helps unemployed women
- 45:34Speaker 2: get work ready. It helps them get off welfare and
- 45:37Speaker 2: into paid work by building their self esteem and in
- 45:42Speaker 2: other very practical ways as well. And to help fund
- 45:45Speaker 2: what they do, every year they run a big charity
- 45:49Speaker 2: clothes sale. All the designer staff they might get from
- 45:52Speaker 2: people that support them that won't work for their clients,
- 45:56Speaker 2: but if it works for you, it raises them serious
- 45:59Speaker 2: man to do the incredible work they do and have
- 46:02Speaker 2: been doing for nineteen years. I'm pleased to say that
- 46:05Speaker 2: the managing director of Fitted for Work, Donna de Swart,
- 46:08Speaker 2: joins me, now I love what you do. When we
- 46:12Speaker 2: caught up recently, I thought I have to tell my
- 46:14Speaker 2: viewers about your amazing work.
- 46:17Speaker 3: Fitted for Work. What does it do and why is
- 46:20Speaker 3: it important?
- 46:21Speaker 6: So Fitted for Work we believe that every woman is
- 46:24Speaker 6: entitled to economic security and independence, and we believe the
- 46:28Speaker 6: best way for a woman to achieve that is through employment.
- 46:31Speaker 6: So all of our services revolve around getting women ready
- 46:34Speaker 6: for work, helping them find work, but then helping them
- 46:38Speaker 6: stay in work and navigate their world of work.
- 46:41Speaker 3: And so what that means is.
- 46:42Speaker 6: It might be services everything from outfitting to resume writing,
- 46:47Speaker 6: interview skills, and very importantly confidence building.
- 46:50Speaker 3: And we know our formula works.
- 46:52Speaker 6: It can reduce the job search duration time by about
- 46:55Speaker 6: seventy eight percent.
- 46:57Speaker 3: Wow.
- 46:57Speaker 2: So you're not a job provider. You don't have jobs
- 47:00Speaker 2: on a board. But if someone goes.
- 47:02Speaker 3: And registers with an employment agency and they have a
- 47:05Speaker 3: look at her and say, look, we're going to have
- 47:07Speaker 3: to get you a bit polished up, we need a CV,
- 47:11Speaker 3: the woman says, oh, gosh, I've done an interview for
- 47:14Speaker 3: a long time. They then get referred across to you.
- 47:17Speaker 6: Yeah, they can get referred across to us, or women
- 47:19Speaker 6: can come to us directly. And we get lots of
- 47:23Speaker 6: referrals from other sources as well. So we're working with
- 47:26Speaker 6: some of the major banks and telecommunications companies as well.
- 47:31Speaker 6: Anyone that's doing it tough.
- 47:32Speaker 2: So when you say banks and telcos, they watch what
- 47:36Speaker 2: someone get into a bit of financial trouble and know that.
- 47:39Speaker 3: They need more hours or they need a new job,
- 47:41Speaker 3: and they put them in touch with you.
- 47:43Speaker 6: They do, and that's one of our social enterprises that
- 47:46Speaker 6: we've built. We've built too over the last nineteen years
- 47:49Speaker 6: because we really believe we have to practice what we
- 47:51Speaker 6: preach as an organization, and I suppose we're breaking the
- 47:54Speaker 6: mold for a charity. So with our Supervention project, we're
- 47:59Speaker 6: working with four major banks now and basically they do
- 48:03Speaker 6: recognize when a woman is in financial distress and it's
- 48:06Speaker 6: usually because of her financial situation, not enough hours, or
- 48:11Speaker 6: perhaps unemployed. They'll refer her through to us and then
- 48:15Speaker 6: we'll help her find work. It's a win win for
- 48:18Speaker 6: the bank, it's a win for us because they pay
- 48:20Speaker 6: us for our services.
- 48:21Speaker 2: Right, let's get to plug in for a big style
- 48:23Speaker 2: because yeah, yes, you get closed donated that would work
- 48:26Speaker 2: for someone doing an interview, but you get a lot
- 48:28Speaker 2: of stuff that's high end that doesn't really work for you,
- 48:31Speaker 2: but you can sell it and make money and you
- 48:33Speaker 2: do this once a year and.
- 48:34Speaker 3: We can all go and buy clothes and we do
- 48:36Speaker 3: it absolutely.
- 48:37Speaker 6: So our sale will run starting Thursday going through till
- 48:42Speaker 6: sorry Friday, going through till Sunday from ten till four.
- 48:46Speaker 3: It's open to the general public.
- 48:49Speaker 6: It's all on our website and we encourage people because
- 48:53Speaker 6: every single cent will go through to our charity and
- 48:57Speaker 6: that will help the growing demand that we have, the
- 49:00Speaker 6: many women that seek our services.
- 49:02Speaker 3: Brilliant, dont I'm going to try and get out there
- 49:03Speaker 3: and have looked myself. Please do. All the details are
- 49:05Speaker 3: up there on the screen, the Conscious Closet.
- 49:08Speaker 2: It's in Richmond and my right, it's in Richmond. That's correct,
- 49:11Speaker 2: in Richmond Place. It's a great way to help yourself
- 49:14Speaker 2: and help a fantastic charity.
- 49:16Speaker 3: They're fitted for work. That's it for me. Andrew bolts
- 49:19Speaker 3: up next.