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- 0:00I'm starting off this week with something I meant to do last week okay I'm demanding an
- 0:07apology from you and from Dan but Dan's not here but I demand an apology I
- 0:11didn't realize you meant for me what what did I do remember we discussed
- 0:16Boulders Gate 3 a few weeks ago yes and how I said it's coming to
- 0:23Xbox yes and you said it wasn't it wasn't it
- 0:28is okay but it wasn't why am I apologizing at the time
- 0:34it wasn't at at the time I said it was it was still coming it was being
- 0:39discussed and now being discussed of course it was being Boulders Gate 3 Xbox
- 0:46yep it's now got a release date and it's coming and the only difference is on the
- 0:50Xbox series s it won't have um the split screen stuff okay well that's what I
- 0:57said but M when I what I said was Microsoft wouldn't let them release it
- 1:03like that so obviously Microsoft changed their mind so I'm not apologizing to you
- 1:06for anything I was right but I was telling you that that was happening at
- 1:10the time well since this was announced two days ago I don't care what you told
- 1:14me back two weeks ago and you didn't know I I I I somehow knew and I don't
- 1:19know how no maybe I one was one of those things I dreamt no wishful
- 1:24thinking I apologize for
- 1:28nothing well welcome to multiple
- 1:32nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
- 1:36Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
- 1:42Things
- 1:48nerdy I'm I'm a bit concerned though because Boulders gate three big game yes
- 1:55yes not something you can just throw on on a weekend and finish no I had to stop
- 1:59playing it we've talked about this already I won't go into it but the Mac
- 2:02version's not out yet so I technically still haven't properly started playing
- 2:06it yeah well now something else has come
- 2:10out yesterday well the early editions of it came out yesterday and I've started
- 2:15playing that and that's going to take me hundreds of hours and that's
- 2:19Starfield yes I've also been playing
- 2:22Starfield how far long are you I am you
- 2:26got a sh yet oh yeah yeah yeah come
- 2:31on we can talk about that that that I mean that's that happens very early um
- 2:37it's very very quick for uh I'm on um new Atlantis which is I mean these
- 2:44aren't spoilers this is like the tutorial missions basically yeah I I've
- 2:48made it there as well but yeah I you got the ship a lot earlier than I thought
- 2:51you would I thought you started Planet you'd be sh there a bit more before he
- 2:58now you can just go anywhere you want but that is a Bethesda game I think
- 3:02listens if you don't want to know anything going into this maybe skip
- 3:04ahead a bit so because I am going to talk about I guess we might as well do
- 3:07it now I just want to talk about the beginning of Starfield a little bit I
- 3:13was a little underwhelmed by the beginning of it I'm still slightly
- 3:18underwhelmed by like it's good it's fun I'm having fun it is me Skyrim Skyrim in
- 3:22space but it hasn't blown me away yet it feels more fall outy for me yeah that's
- 3:28fair especially the music yeah yeah that's a good point
- 3:33yeah yeah I don't it's got more of a Fallout field than a scar older scrs
- 3:38it's got guns and also there's no aliens or anything that I've come across at
- 3:42least anyway it's just they're aliens I've shot some of them I haven't shot
- 3:47any oh I shot a few bugs but I haven't that's an alien mate it's not a bug from
- 3:53Earth I mean like other like species like when you go in Sky You Got Elves
- 3:57and yeah yeah but so far again we are
- 4:02very early on in this game oh very very what I'm about to tell you you will
- 4:06learn within the first hour or two yes the plot is Mass Effect
- 4:12MH it's the same the same plot as Mass Effect like mostly the general gist of
- 4:19it you find an alien or you find a relic and you have a vision and then yep and
- 4:25then some guy shows up and just says oh you better take my ship then and I was
- 4:28like yeah hang on guys yeah I I feel that that handing
- 4:33over the ship was it felt very rushed because it's the whole beginning felt
- 4:37very rushed to me I was like all right all right I do want to get into space but come
- 4:41on like cuz yeah it's so like this guy comes up and some some Raiders were
- 4:46chasing him and the boss of the mining thing was like where you'd been working
- 4:50goes hey you going to leave us with all this mess he goes I'll stay behind here
- 4:54take the keys to my ship and Away you go my ship yeah and then you go and then I
- 4:59I said to my like because I was like hang on a minute this is all happening a
- 5:02bit quickly I'm not yeah I mean it's fine because I know it's just a way to
- 5:07get us through a tutorial thing and into space but like come on and so I said to
- 5:11my boss hang on don't you need me here I I work here and then she goes she goes nah it's
- 5:17fine yeah I S ask the same question CU but then I can understand why they did
- 5:23it as well because I know that's the good thing about these games is you you
- 5:27walk out like you walk out of the Vault or you start it goes you can go this way
- 5:33if you want to play the mission or you can turn around and work the completely
- 5:36opposite direction and do whatever you want so yeah this just felt more than
- 5:40any of the others felt like it was like you could feel the game of it like they
- 5:47just this okay we've just taught you how to do a bunch of things and now we've
- 5:50made up this kind of [ __ ] story to get you up into space now off you go
- 5:55kind of thing I'm one thing I'm starting to get not concerned about but just a
- 6:01bit weird it's I'm there's a lot in this game it's [ __ ] enormous like I'm
- 6:07running on New Atlantis and I'm side mission side mission side mission yeah
- 6:11yeah and I was like should I be ignoring these cuz I do technically have a main
- 6:15quest that and I'm kind of still learning the ropes like I don't even
- 6:18know how to do stuff and like I got it from a ship and and the guy there was
- 6:21like oh yeah I can help you upgrade stuff on your ship and I'm like what
- 6:25what do I want to what I want to upgrade yeah like how how does that even work
- 6:29and then have you had done lock picking yet yeah that's fun man that was F the
- 6:34first couple of times I was I I thought that that didn't really teach you how to do
- 6:41it the the first time cuz you've got the undo thing and I wasted a bunch of those
- 6:47I was like what am I supposed to do and then it just at one point I was like oh
- 6:50I get it yeah then it clicks cuz yeah when you undo it's not just undo and go
- 6:54start it's actually using lockpicks to undo what you've done yeah it was very
- 6:58confusing it I feel like most of the game is like that it doesn't really doesn't hold your
- 7:04hand and and I think why we're noticing more this time is because it's new
- 7:08functionality this time like it's the lockpicking is completely different to
- 7:12what we've had from them in the past yeah cuz you've got the way the
- 7:17lockpicking works in this listeners is oh or viewers now we have viewers now I
- 7:22keep remembering that it's more of a mini game yeah so you've got well in at
- 7:26the beginning at least you've got four barrels of this lock and you you've got
- 7:30the pi and you can arrange four things in a certain configuration and you've
- 7:34got to basically I try and figure out before I click any of them how that they
- 7:39can all possibly fit well yeah it took me a few GS to work out that you need to
- 7:44do that because yeah you only have enough for the the sort of slots that
- 7:49are there so if you just randomly chew stuff at the start it goes well now you
- 7:53can't finish it the thing the only thing though is that I guess I've encountered
- 7:56some locks that I don't have a high enough skill to try and open but once I get a high
- 8:03enough skill say is the Min game just exactly the same yeah or does it get
- 8:07harder like and how could it possibly get any harder well I think the easy way
- 8:12for it to get harder is you're starting off with the four to yeah you start and
- 8:16I think it'll just increase cuz you remember like in that's the only way I
- 8:20can think that it would get harder expert in hacking and lock or they did
- 8:25get harder yeah the password thing the computer long weird though and then like
- 8:30the lockpicking like it did you had like a smaller sort of area where you were
- 8:35able to hit oh yeah that's right yeah you have to the Fallout was the sideways
- 8:40lock right no that's Oblivion that's Oblivion Skyrim's the where you go yeah
- 8:46Skyrim and Fallout were the same oh they were okay that's why I'm confused but
- 8:50yeah yeah and then it's just like the harder it got the harder like you had to
- 8:54be spot on instead of just in the same side of the lock essentially but that's
- 8:59sort of where I am at the moment I'm just on new Atlantis I'm still yeah
- 9:03getting my I'm focusing on side missions just so I can understand a bit more
- 9:07before I yeah I've got so I've got someone with me now again I don't want
- 9:11to say too much in case I accidentally I don't want to spoil
- 9:14anything as Beyond just the opening the opening section I think is fine because
- 9:18it's just like basically just the tutorial and and like I said I feel felt
- 9:21a bit cheap to me as far as story went and I was like okay that was
- 9:25underwhelming from a story perspective the game's still fun but yes um they got
- 9:31to Newland I've met some people I've got someone with me now as Aion apart from
- 9:36the robot that you get the start Y and I'm like okay no it's getting
- 9:39interesting I like these characters I've met it's getting good so I feel like it
- 9:43is going to take off it just yeah it just hasn't quite like I said hasn't
- 9:46blown me away just yet see I've got a few people in my ship at the moment but
- 9:51that's mainly because I so yep um but one of them is when you're creating your
- 9:57character there are perks you can get or yes so one of them you can get is
- 10:01adoring fan you got that I got him so he's now working on my ship I I didn't
- 10:07do that on purpose because I was like I'm I'm going to avoid those he he's not
- 10:12as annoying as I thought he was going to be not like the was it the fan you get
- 10:16in um there's one in Mass Effect again Mass Effect um and there's one
- 10:22in one of the Elder Scrolls games I think I think this one he's a bit more
- 10:27there I know in Mass Effect he just rocks up once or twice each day almost
- 10:31scripted well not SC literally scripted there I also got introvert so I'm going
- 10:37to be rocking around the robot most of the time oh the robot doesn't count
- 10:42robot doesn't count the do human yeah okay didn't think of that yeah I didn't
- 10:48know there was a robot when I was making my character
- 10:52so yeah but that's where I'm enjoying it
- 10:55so far but yeah I'm I'm it's big it's I had a quick look at like the ship
- 11:01building stuff and I went there's a lot to that that and it there was no
- 11:07tutorial for that no even the maps stuff like that because the flying feels
- 11:13similar enough to No Man's sky and games like that that I didn't feel confused by
- 11:18but Jenna was playing it before too and she hasn't played a lot of those games
- 11:23and so she was like pretty confused by how to control the ship at first cuz
- 11:29again it doesn't you know it says like oh yeah the throttle the on the left and
- 11:33then there's a sweet spot for turning but it doesn't really
- 11:36explain like properly what that means like I knew what that meant because I've
- 11:41played games like this before but cuz it just said like Yeah The Sweet Spot It
- 11:45just and it just generally it's on the left figure point at it and go this and
- 11:52have it here and it's just not immediately obvious so I don't know a
- 11:56lot of it's like that and yeah like I said the ship building I opened up the
- 11:58menu and I went I'll come back to that later yeah I I just opened that up and
- 12:03went oh okay I'm just going to save money and buy a ship I I think looks
- 12:06cool later because I also forgot it was a Bethesda game at first and I just
- 12:10started picking up everything that wasn't [ __ ] nailed down and
- 12:14immediately like couldn't got over encumbered yes so I was like well now
- 12:19I'm annoyed cuz I don't know what I should and should not keep in my pockets
- 12:24and the problem is is you you actually do need to pick up things to how do I
- 12:29know which ones yeah exactly yeah but then it's a Bethesda game at the
- 12:35beginning you can ignore that stuff there'll be plenty more crap lying
- 12:38around later yes yeah you don't need to collect every single folder and
- 12:43clipboard you see and you can probably go back to most of these places I yeah
- 12:48I'd be very surprised if you couldn't yeah like I haven't tried but like I've
- 12:52been to a few planets no have you hav you been to just two the one you start
- 12:57on another one and then new Atlantis I'm not new Atlantis I've been to the Moon
- 13:02oh did you go to the Moon you just stopped by there on the way did you I
- 13:05just went I'm going to go walk on the moon and then I died cuz of what
- 13:12ummon Raiders that were like level 14 right right
- 13:17okay and yeah I was level three that's Fallout what are you
- 13:22talking about they they what are they yeah I forget I know
- 13:27I knew I know who you meant but I think crimson raiders is
- 13:31Fallout I can find out go on I know cuz it's an achievement to join them oh is
- 13:37there there is so I can look at
- 13:41that join them join them and join the
- 13:46Crimson Fleet Crimson Fleet all right so fair I'll apologize for that you were
- 13:51very close which is which is another reason why this makes me feel it's more
- 13:56fall outy like the music crimson as soon as you said that I was like no you're
- 14:00right it is well I mean they're very similar like they're essentially the
- 14:05same but but yeah it's even when I'm hearing sort of like the music for like
- 14:09completing a quest it's yeah you know you're right it's got that very
- 14:14yeah don't mind no no the music's good one thing I am excited about is the
- 14:19achievements on this I haven't looked at them I don't care I know you don't but they're
- 14:25not super hard oh okay all right I've gotten some like there there's some like
- 14:32big ones but you know like there's a thousand planets in the galaxy it's an
- 14:36Achi about landing on planets but it's only 100 oh okay over the course of the
- 14:40game doable yeah um like complete 30 miscellaneous
- 14:47missions complete 30 activities visit all star like stuff that's going to be
- 14:51you to focus on you'll just do over the CL yeah yeah it's not going to be like a
- 14:55go out of your way and do it kind of thing you can kind of just pick them up
- 14:58yeah that's cool yeah and then just complete missions I
- 15:02have to say I know I complained about this in advance without having seen it I
- 15:08maintain that the frame rate is disappointing the game started and I
- 15:13went to move around and I was like oh no I forgot I am going to admit cuz I I've
- 15:19been I say all time I don't care the second started that first 30 seconds I
- 15:24was oh my God and then I got used to it yeah exactly yeah yeah now my brain Pap
- 15:29it over it but but like I said at first I was like oh
- 15:33no because I've been playing Destiny and Destiny yeah but we can do a follow up
- 15:37on that if you want but uh because I do have a bit to say about Destiny but yeah
- 15:42Destin's very smooth at 60 so yeah but that's cuz it's 15 years old now or
- 15:46whatever but I I will admit like the it looks amazing though like when I'm
- 15:52talking to like Sarah and you're looking at her leather jacket yes amazing yeah
- 15:57yeah it's good I want that jacket I have a jacket that's very similar to that
- 16:01actually that I've had for years nice jacket yeah so no I'm going to be spending a
- 16:07lot of time in this over the next few weeks I am
- 16:12also um the reviews are in and it's getting mostly very mostly very very
- 16:17very very positive with a few like um I
- 16:21guess medium highs like it's yeah uh which is I guess how I feel about it
- 16:26right now it is very good and I can see I'm going to be playing it a lot but
- 16:28it's not like I said it's not like mindblowing or anything yet but I think
- 16:33things where people on that medium high is that bit what we bit
- 16:38overwhelmed like the ship building stuff like that with but with the ship
- 16:42building there are people out there who are going to love it that's true well
- 16:46it' be like Fallout you don't have to do that stuff if you don't want to either
- 16:49cuz at Fallout 4 you didn't have to build your base if you didn't want to no
- 16:53there was a couple where for a mission you had to like put down like a chair
- 16:57stuff just to you do it and then way you go well that's the other thing too is
- 17:02that some of this stuff I figured there probably will be a mission at some point
- 17:05to teach me how to do this probably maybe yeah but it'll be like here's how
- 17:12you do it but then you don't have to do it if you don't want to and that's the
- 17:15thing I think I like you don't have to get bogged down in the stuff you don't
- 17:19like you can focus on the stuff you enjoy yeah yeah which is surveying
- 17:23planets surveying planets just flying around I think building a ship will be
- 17:27fun I think I'll enjoy that
- 17:30to some people already built like a star destroyer that's
- 17:37great yeah let getting good reviews uh somebody got arrested uh and is being
- 17:43charged with a felony um for this guy is
- 17:48stupid I don't even know this article I don't think even said how he managed to
- 17:54get these but he was he obtained somehow
- 17:59copies of Starfield on Xbox it doesn't say how I don't think I couldn't find it in this
- 18:05article there there's there's a few stories I've heard that he stole
- 18:09them then he's ALS then he's also saying he purchased them legitimately but well
- 18:15that's I don't think it's possible to legitimately purchase something it's not
- 18:18released yet like whether he whether he paid somebody for him or not they were
- 18:21still illegitimately and he knew that cuz he was trying to sell them for 200
- 18:25bucks on eBay and the thing that is crazy is people buying it of course they
- 18:29were yeah for something that's coming out like next week I know but people
- 18:34don't want to wait and he got he got in trouble because he he put 40 minutes
- 18:37worth of gameplay up and then I think he's getting sued for that because yeah
- 18:41I don't really know the legality of that but well it's cuz there's embargo and
- 18:47everything and nor when people leak game play well he's got he's got his channel
- 18:53and that's where yeah I suppose I suppose and normally when people leak footage
- 19:00they'll do it from like a random account and make sure it doesn't come back to
- 19:04them this was straight this is he wanted to get notice for this the eBay account
- 19:09was just directly linked to him and stuff as well was if he was trying to
- 19:12hide it he was pretty [ __ ] stupid but uh well the thing I don't
- 19:16think he realized how stupid he was being maybe not yeah that's I guess
- 19:21that's the question is how did he get them I guess is is a good question like
- 19:26if he if he genuinely got them like like if he paid money for them somehow and
- 19:31didn't realize what a big deal it was that's kind of a shame but and then and
- 19:36that will be sort of his defense if he did get them
- 19:39legitimately his defense in court would be well I just paid money and they gave
- 19:43them to me so if he had a friend who works at you know GameStop or something
- 19:48who sold them to him or something like that like opened a box early or I don't
- 19:52know something weird like that then it's a bit I guess the time frame of it seems
- 19:55a bit off for working at a store because they the stores would have only
- 20:01Saed it like a few days before yeah I guess I don't know how that works how
- 20:06early do they get them I don't think they get them like weeks early
- 20:10got he got them from somewhere but yeah so I mean it's that's not really
- 20:14arguable like he got him from somewhere like I think the thing you get in more
- 20:19trouble is is the the leaking of it sure more than the the stealing if he can go
- 20:26I brought them and selling them if he just goes I brought them so I thought it
- 20:30was fine that I sell them yeah exactly I just don't know how like I can see they
- 20:35do like a takeown and get the footage pulled down they could probably do that
- 20:39through YouTube I'm sure Microsoft could [ __ ] manage that um but what is it
- 20:44coming at him hard claim is it yeah I don't know they're coming hard
- 20:51like it's a $10,000 bail like it's not a it's I suppose Nintendo get stuff pulled
- 20:57down I guess is it potentially that it's their game so they can either allow or
- 21:04disallow content to be posted cuz I'm assuming they're going to allow people
- 21:08to put gameplay up now now is fine yeah um well that's the
- 21:13thing like sometimes we will get review copies of games and there'll be that
- 21:15embargo date like oh yeah yeah no no no and then this is the date where you can
- 21:20release but you can't stream anything till then I don't think you can get in
- 21:24legal trouble for breaking embargo right you just they just won't give you games
- 21:28anymore that's what I thought anyway like you know never thought about doing
- 21:32it but I thought it was just like bad this is what
- 21:36happens yeah okay you get into a lot of trouble H clearly don't do it I'm not going to
- 21:43do it I'm not going to do it I don't like getting free copies of games I know
- 21:47I feel dirty sometimes even if I like the game because well it depends on who it is
- 21:54like you know we've gotten big companies have given us stuff before and I don't
- 21:57mind it so much because they not I feel like we're small fry enough that if I
- 22:01say this game was [ __ ] they're not going to even remember that they gave it to me
- 22:06a small sort of Indie Studio that's I feel either obliged to say very nice
- 22:11things about it or just not say anything but that sucks because then they they
- 22:17might email and go oh where's that review and it's like ah you don't want
- 22:21me to post that I promise but but I even feel bad with the like even if I did
- 22:25like it and we do talk about it cuz it's still why yes it is helping themselves I
- 22:29I still want to give you money to support that's true well well that and I
- 22:34don't want to play something that I don't like whereas if they've given me a
- 22:37copy of it I feel obliged to continue even if I'm not enjoying or something
- 22:41like I don't know just I just it doesn't it's not for me that that life is not
- 22:45for me the way I think about it is someone explained this to me a while ago
- 22:50so imine you've got like a store like you own the store the best way for me to
- 22:55support you is to buy things from you not ask for you to give me stuff or give
- 22:59me a discount if I want to help you out sure yeah like if it's a friend like you
- 23:03shouldn't be trying to get stuff cheaper or anything you should actually be if
- 23:06you're supporting your friend with their business you pay them yeah yeah what I
- 23:13usually do is I don't ask for stuff I never had in fact I had a I'm not going
- 23:17to say what company I had a confusing conversation with somebody at a company
- 23:21because they thought I I just wanted to um get on the press release email list
- 23:27oh y and they gave me such a hard time about it because they were like we don't
- 23:31just give out free games and I was like I don't want any [ __ ] free games from
- 23:33you I don't want them I just want to information yeah exactly it was such a
- 23:37pain in the bum so and that's because there are so many people out there who
- 23:42are just wanting to that's what in the end in the end they apologized and they
- 23:46said sorry we just get this is after an E3 where I'd met somebody at E3 and I
- 23:49was following up on it and then they were like oh we get so many people now
- 23:54emailing and I was like yeah no wores it's fine yeah no and I completely
- 23:57understand that and that's why I don't want us to be those people that feel they're
- 24:03entitled I would prefer to just if I like something I'll mention it and if I
- 24:07don't we talk about it yeah which is why we had that interview last week with
- 24:12yeah that's right yeah because it was a game that I I played their first game I
- 24:16really enjoyed it and they've got the new game coming out on Boba master and I
- 24:20wanted to talk about that one as well yeah got some good feedback on that too by the
- 24:25way great people like we haven't done a lot of interviews we're going to do some
- 24:29more yeah we definitely are I think we now we've worked out a good way to do it
- 24:35yeah so next up Todd Howard just kidding Todd Howard will not be coming on this
- 24:40podcast he does he does agree with you though Luke he's come out this week and
- 24:45he yeah yeah yeah he's come out and he said well he said what everyone's been
- 24:49thinking they announced Elder Scrolls
- 24:52six too early as in 5 years ago and they still haven't said anything else about
- 24:59it since then yeah so like quite a lot too
- 25:02early I it's yeah well I understand why because the second they release a game
- 25:09that's what everyone's asking is what's the next one they're not wasn't it the
- 25:13same was it the same year as Starfield remember the F very first Starfield
- 25:18announcement was literally just the logo and everyone lost their [ __ ] minds uh
- 25:22and I think it might have been the same year that they did the it was either the
- 25:26same or even might have been even like the year before like they were it was
- 25:32this article does say that it was 5 years ago in June that they announced
- 25:37Dela scoll 6 and they still don't have anything to show which
- 25:43is fine except you shouldn't have announced it don't announce it like yeah
- 25:49there's nothing wrong with be working on it for a long time if it's going to be
- 25:52good but yeah you're going to cyber Punk
- 25:55yourselves but here's the problem is is when it comes down to money side of
- 26:01things announcing thing makes them money with stocks yeah I suppose like we
- 26:08announc something hey we're going to make more money that way is it if you
- 26:12silence you lose money just before a game release stocks
- 26:17go up I don't know if they worry about that anymore now Microsoft own them
- 26:20though I have no idea I don't know how it all works
- 26:25no but anyway that's that's kind of you've been saying for a long time about
- 26:30Bethesda in particular with um with the yeah the long announcements just don't
- 26:36do it wait till it's almost ready do it yeah the same like Bethesda
- 26:41Rockstar oh yeah that's a good example yeah yeah like GTA 6 they know it's
- 26:47coming people know it and everybody knew they didn't have to say
- 26:51anything like cuz I think even Starfield like we were excited remember we meant
- 26:56to be playing this November last year yeah yeah that's weird got excited for
- 27:02it and then it was postponed and then now we have to wait forever and now
- 27:06we're actually playing it yeah not right now I hope you're supposed to be focused
- 27:11on this show I am focused it is there though mine's over
- 27:16there my TV's off I I promise I'm not playing you can check you cuz you you
- 27:23hear you can check me online no no no I I can usually tell when you're paying
- 27:28attention and it it has happened and I have called you out on
- 27:32it but even like remember yesterday you were I was at work and you actually
- 27:36started playing Starfield and I was able to send you a screenshot to go I know
- 27:40what you're doing yeah because I was at trivia and I got
- 27:43um May I got an email or something like that anyway I noticed that it was like
- 27:47at the time I messaged you it was like 3 minutes to 8 and it was releasing at 8
- 27:51which is an odd time but I guess that's what that was to sync it up with other
- 27:54countries or whatever yeah I think it and I was like damn it Luke's going to
- 27:59get to play it first so then I messaged and you said no no I'm at work and I was
- 28:02like [ __ ] I was like the end of the trivia I let's wrap this up I think it
- 28:07was yeah I think it just released it midnight GMT time because it was 10:00
- 28:11a.m. here so 8 so I think they just went that's the time that's a pretty good
- 28:15time actually for me cuz you know my daughter's in bed I can just play a game
- 28:21it's sort of a good time for us as well like I think they should just aim for
- 28:24that well cuz it works for us yeah exactly it works for it works for the
- 28:28two of us perfect yep cuz it means that like it releases at 10 I might be at
- 28:33work I could take the day off but I'm awake and I can come home and just play
- 28:37it yeah and 8:00 is not too late look a problem that I have now though
- 28:43is I am really enjoying Destiny and I kind of still want to play it so I'm
- 28:49going to have to I'm going to have to somehow juggle that I need to understand
- 28:53this because I know last week I know why you didn't mind the actual game you sort
- 28:58of it was but I was confused yeah right
- 29:02so I found a 4 and a half hour YouTube
- 29:08video that caught me up and it I I was like I was like I'll
- 29:13give it a try I going to I'll put putp this video on and I'll see and if it
- 29:18engages me fine and I put it on and the start of it was talking
- 29:22about and using video from the original which I played and I was like oh I
- 29:28remember this I remember this okay yeah yeah yeah and like with the darkness
- 29:31coming in and then the the world map had the bits of Darkness on I was like oh I
- 29:35know all that stuff and then the later ones I think it was um
- 29:40stronghold was when you ended up on the moon for period in the game I was like I
- 29:45remember all that [ __ ] and then so and then I got caught up
- 29:49on yeah travel's been up to and the witness the witness is that cool dude
- 29:53with the smoke [ __ ] coming out of his head man I have to ask was all you was
- 29:58it was it all stuff that you would have learned just by playing the game at the
- 30:02time or that you had to also learn no I think it's like the story of what
- 30:07happened in the game okay yeah that I just missed because I didn't play it for
- 30:1110 years well yeah cuz it's that's the problem persistent worlds you like you
- 30:16yeah they release stuff constantly and yeah the world changes and yeah yeah it
- 30:21makes sense but so so I caught up on all that kind of stuff and and I was still
- 30:26playing in you know throughout because I didn't watch it all one go because
- 30:29that's [ __ ] long but I still I've been playing it throughout the week and
- 30:32stuff like that it's super fun like okay I'm really enjoying
- 30:36it uh so I'll have to see it's possible I'll just forget about
- 30:41it now but I guess I got at to right now
- 30:46I don't feel like Starfield has got its hooks in me as much as is necessary to
- 30:51make me forget about Destiny which surprises me a little bit but we'll see
- 30:57what happens yeah but at least I think with Destiny you
- 31:02can I think and play a couple hours a week and it be yeah you can jump in and drop out
- 31:08whereas for Starfield I think you need to commit to a few hours yeah yeah yeah
- 31:14yeah so I'll see yeah all right well let me know I might install Destiny 2 go on
- 31:19then yeah and if you want to play I can jump in and play with you all right
- 31:23listeners if any of you played actually you know what what I know one listener
- 31:28definitely used to play Destiny uh and listening to all this is
- 31:33probably getting yelling at us right now because I think he told he tell he
- 31:36offered to help us play years and years and years ago so anyway listeners right
- 31:40in podcast of multip nasm.com comment on the video below get in touch with us
- 31:44whatever if you if you play Destiny and you want to play with us let us know yep
- 31:49and I would try the only problem is is I need to actually commit some time to
- 31:55level up a character I think no you don't know anymore because the game has
- 32:01been restructured in a way that I I think when you start now you
- 32:08can just do whatever okay I don't think there's any quests or raids or anything that you
- 32:13couldn't do immediately I think they've they've juggled it in a way that so so a
- 32:18new player can jump in and play with someone who's been playing for 10 years
- 32:21instead of that's definely true that's definitely true I don't know how they're
- 32:26achieving that like is Borderland scales toland scales I think Elder Scrolls
- 32:30Online did the same sort of thing I don't know if it's doing that or if it's
- 32:34just that cuz my character automatically had like 1600 like level Point power power I
- 32:40think it's called Uh which I don't think you started with that much originally um
- 32:45I I I see I don't quite such an odd number it can't be right it can't be
- 32:50that you used to start with no no it wouldn't be cuz I I only played Destiny
- 32:54the first Destiny yeah yeah and same when he start getting
- 32:58when you start getting into extra power level is sort of when I stopped cuz that
- 33:02was sort of the end of the single player sort of story and then got into the
- 33:07raids other stuff which required you to worry about your light level light level
- 33:12yeah I don't think it's called that anymore it might be no because I don't
- 33:15see here's the thing that now now we use the darkness as well we've learned that
- 33:19it's the darkness isn't just bad it's about how you use it things have
- 33:23changed the darkness yeah yeah I like the Darkness at the time they were
- 33:29B people should not have been against him at the start little easier
- 33:35yeah so yeah okay all right I'll think about it but yeah I know like I'm going
- 33:40to finish once I finish this I'm going to
- 33:43inst I'm I'm I don't have time for all this [ __ ] I don't know what I'm going to
- 33:49do I don't know what I'm going to do Luke we're at a actually it's a great
- 33:53and terrible time of the year cuz we
- 33:55have yeah Starfield cyber Punk um
- 34:00Assassin's Creed like we've got these
- 34:03long games Destiny um forter the new
- 34:08forter games coming out which that that one's probably not for you because this
- 34:12is more of the just a track driving no I still like him I mean I've actually been
- 34:16playing um we talked about this been playing VR Gran Turismo on my
- 34:21PS5 although not so much lately because it's out in the living room yeah these
- 34:27These are all like very long games that you can't just
- 34:32yeah yeah I'm going to have to quit
- 34:35work people go to patreon.com multiple nasm give us money so I can quit work
- 34:42and just play games please for as little as $1 a month you can help Luke play
- 34:48video games instead of working yes to
- 34:51noble cause I think it is
- 34:56MHM we got some followup this week on some stuff we've been talking about
- 35:01David a in the news again uh he's been it is it him talking
- 35:07to the news again cuz I feel it's when we talk about him it's because he's been
- 35:13talking about him not other people yeah he must be doing the podcast rounds
- 35:17because he's been on a bunch of stuff like I I've not had I don't think we've
- 35:21ever ever had like what 3 weeks in a row where we've had news about him in the
- 35:26past like m I don't know what's going on because I don't think he has any
- 35:30projects at the moment anyway except this he said this week that
- 35:36um there was talk that he would take over DC until they [ __ ] up his Suicide
- 35:43Squad movie and it would have been him not James gun had they
- 35:49not taken his really really really good movie away from him and [ __ ] it I'm
- 35:55gonna have to just call a little bit of [ __ ] on this I don't know mate who
- 36:01knows we haven't seen this movie he better [ __ ] hope we never see this
- 36:05movie at this point but so the reason why I'm sort of calling him out a little
- 36:10bit is it seems a very strange thing to say this now and not
- 36:17maybe so before James was even pointed go hey we they were looking at doing
- 36:22sort of the the Marvel FY thing me taking that over and not
- 36:28years later there were like there were a
- 36:31lot of reasons James gun got to take over not he didn't just make a movie
- 36:37that that that they thought was pretty good except they didn't think it was
- 36:40good because they took it off of but anyway it's yeah there's more to it yeah
- 36:46and like this is kind of like like is he is he trying to do like a SN cut thing
- 36:52except the difference is Zack Snider wasn't out there saying I made the best
- 36:58movie in the world and it cured cancer and they for some reason took it away
- 37:03from me and broke it he wasn't saying that he was just putting stuff up and
- 37:06the fans were demanding it it was in
- 37:10this case it's David a going around talking about talking this [ __ ] movie
- 37:15up so much like if they put this out and
- 37:20[ __ ] he better be right at this point cuz if he's not that's his career over
- 37:26like that I would be terrified if I was him right now I would NE I I just can't
- 37:33imagine doing this even if I genuinely thought I made a movie that was that
- 37:37good I can't imagine going around talking like this about it it's just
- 37:42not I find it a bit weird yeah and again I think this is
- 37:48yeah he's the one that's really pushing for it it's not yeah he's arguing with
- 37:53people on Twitter telling him to shut up like it's like everyone's like shut up
- 37:57your movie he's like no it's the best movie ever you haven't seen it you
- 38:00wouldn't know I've shown people and they told me it was the best movie my mom
- 38:03says it's great like yeah all right Dave my my my argument of that is George
- 38:08Lucas showed people with The Phantom Menace yeah and his video of him showing
- 38:13it and people saying it's good and yeah
- 38:17him also just going well it's long and
- 38:21look if if they release the a cut of
- 38:25Suicide Squad and it's fantastic I will publicly apologize on this show
- 38:30to him and I you know because fine but I
- 38:36mean I've seen Suicide Squad and it was made of the footage that he shot so
- 38:42yes I'm a little confused how I just don't I don't know look even I there's
- 38:47some footage we haven't seen at I remember time because it was Jared L's Joker which
- 38:54MH more of him I don't think will help that movie
- 38:58no no him not being in it enough was not the problem with that movie
- 39:04no yeah I just don't know CU what does he he he describes it uh in this
- 39:11article
- 39:19um what does he say here oh I just love this quote during a during a time during
- 39:24Su Suicide Squad when the dies coming in people were like oh [ __ ] maybe Air's
- 39:29going to take over DC yeah it's Game of Thrones in there yeah
- 39:36I this really they never tested my cut and the thing is I have it I [ __ ]
- 39:41have it and if I didn't oh my God everyone I've shown it to has had the
- 39:45same reaction like this is the movie we wanted why didn't we get this m of
- 39:50course they said that to you what are they going to say because you would have
- 39:53talked this [ __ ] thing up to their face beforehand or they're going to go
- 39:57that was a bit [ __ ] mate like yeah I don't know it's
- 40:02just it's just weird and then they got a quote from Will Smith here at the end
- 40:05Suicide Squad actor Will Smith said in 2002 that he supports an a cut of the
- 40:09film fine so do I I'm interested Will Smith said let me tell you there's a
- 40:15whole lot that stayed on the floor for Suicide Squad I'm into it I love that
- 40:19world I love what was created in both versions I absolutely would love to see
- 40:23it Will Smith doesn't give a [ __ ] no this is one of those times when they
- 40:27they'll ask like would you be interested in playing like James Bond and then the
- 40:32news articles for the next three weeks this person is tried to get the no you
- 40:36just ask me a question he go yeah wouldn't mind yeah they asked they asked
- 40:39Smith if he would support David a and he went yep sure whatever mate yeah yep I
- 40:46don't know I feel bad sh going on out there going we need to get this out
- 40:52there someone asked him a question he went yeah all right again it's the
- 40:56opposite of the cut where Zack Snider actually did have the actors coming out
- 41:00and saying stuff and then even then like and I remind everybody that the Zack
- 41:04Snider Justice League was
- 41:08fine it was it was long it was and also better than the other than the the
- 41:14theatrical one but it wasn't like the best movie ever made or anything fine
- 41:20what was released was not going to be the cup that was originally going to be
- 41:23released if he got to finish it they were not a 4our movie yeah yeah they
- 41:28went back yeah they let him do it in [ __ ] four it's it's
- 41:33ridiculous anyway I feel bad [ __ ] not him David a I mean so much but at this
- 41:39point it's like it's embarrassing like it's so cringy this is Ryan Johnson and
- 41:46Star Wars Trilogy which every now he'll remind people I'm this because it's not
- 41:52all Ryan Johnson talks about guess doing other stuff he's doing
- 41:57kned out Trilogy and stuff like he's got that's not fair I don't know what else
- 42:00David a was talking about in these interviews that's that's not fair but
- 42:05look I'm G to find out and see what he's
- 42:08up to David yeah IMB right now all right I me we looked a little while back I
- 42:13know he did that tank movie Fury and he did
- 42:17um Suicide Squad so we've
- 42:24got oh this isn't good
- 42:29um evidently he's a writer on Commando and the Wild Bunch that's evidently in
- 42:34pre-production I don't know what they are Bunch oh that's two movies yeah it's
- 42:39two movies sorry um he command sounds like a great movie he wrote the tax
- 42:46collector in 2020 okay I was going to say what that what's that about but you're not going
- 42:52to know and the answer is going to be a tax collector event he was director on
- 42:56the Bon that's in post production at Mo coming out next year that sounds rting
- 43:01as well but then yeah his last director his last director role was the tax
- 43:07collector which came out in 2020 is The Beekeeper a a spin-off of um the um the
- 43:13Wicker man with Nicholas Gage that's a let's a look a cut
- 43:20listeners okay here we go in The Beekeeper one man's brutal campaign for
- 43:24vengeance takes on a national state takes after he's revealed to be a former
- 43:29operative of a powerful and clandestine organization known as the beekeepers oh
- 43:34so it's the king it's the King's Men oh just play through older people
- 43:39I'm guessing that that's from what I get from that yeah it's going to be just
- 43:45shooty shooty guns running around saving people it's not going to be movie where
- 43:51saving bees saving bees I wish I hope it's saving bees that would um the tax collector
- 43:57a tax collector or tax collector in quotes working for a local crime Lord
- 44:02finds his family safely compromised when the Rival of his boss shows up in LA and
- 44:06upends the business so again people running around shooting each other
- 44:12yeah all right but oh
- 44:19this yeah this does have one of your
- 44:21favorite people in it who shy lauff
- 44:26Shuff is he one of my favorite people he certainly amuses me I don't know if he's
- 44:31one of my favorite people he's been quiet the M he's been very Qui he
- 44:37has cuz I think he people started to work out that he was just a bit of a
- 44:42dick yeah but he didn't care clearly for there was a there was a long time there
- 44:47where he was up to something weird every week and then he just went away but I
- 44:51think the thing is that he didn't care but I think people start to catch on
- 44:55that hold on he's a bit of a dick and that's where we don't want to see that
- 45:00anymore yeah but he just stopped doing things remember he did that performance
- 45:03art thing and he did that music video with that that little girl everyone
- 45:07thought was weird and then he did he was running around M Rushmore yelling yeah
- 45:13America people remember he was just doing crazy stuff and then then just
- 45:16stopped doing it yeah because or do they just stop reporting on it is that what
- 45:20you're saying yeah like no one cuz crazy
- 45:24only gets you so far yeah okay and then and then he's just I think people were
- 45:30just getting a bit bored with him because what the the stuff he's doing
- 45:34it's not really entertaining it's weird cuz we I've laugh I find that story that
- 45:41he told about his deor Night Out in New York where he ended up with that musical
- 45:46or whatever he told it on Kimmel or something I find that story very funny
- 45:52but I would [ __ ] hate to have been involved in any of that at yeah he would
- 45:58drive me [ __ ] insane yeah and I think that's what sort of happened people just
- 46:03started to it's a funny story hold on you made people's lives
- 46:08terrible that night yeah what a nightmare but look I'm I'm
- 46:14going to go like the stuff that David a is doing is really stuff that I'd be
- 46:19interested in seeing mhm so I don't
- 46:24know I how I hope that that they do put out his Suicide Squad just because I'm
- 46:29very at this point I'm like all right mate cards on the table like James gun
- 46:35call his bluff let us look at it let us see it and then we'll decide remember he
- 46:41he has said that James he spoken to James gun and James gone there will be a
- 46:44time for it well he said that I don't think gonna say I don't think James gun
- 46:50has said anything about it I could be wrong maybe he has on he does Tweet
- 46:55stuff a lot and then deletes them well some of them yeah no he does
- 47:02all of them now right that's yeah yeah I think they're all up for a certain
- 47:05amount of time and then yeah I think that's a good policy
- 47:10well that's one of those things where he he was smart because if as long as he
- 47:15maintains that now because you know he did used to make a lot of silly edgy
- 47:19jokes he doesn't do that anymore but he also now if he if he says that's my
- 47:23policy you can't really call him out on the fact that he just all his old I Reon
- 47:28you just got some automatic job running in the background somewhere that just
- 47:32goes after 3 months can you still do that thought he I don't know
- 47:38anymore you could probably still create something yeah
- 47:43maybe you have to pay him a lot of money now though I know I reckon I could
- 47:48create a job that could do it all right cuz if you're not no no if you're not
- 47:53doing it on a mess scale like it's just uh a job that ran on your computer to your
- 48:00account oh like a macro on your computer that just was like delet yeah okay
- 48:04that's good yeah yeah I'm not saying I could go out and code a thing an yeah
- 48:11all right you could I've got faith in you I
- 48:17couldn't oh I I mean I probably could I'm not going to I don't want to yeah I
- 48:22don't is there's one thing I've learned recently is that if you want to make a
- 48:27successful business don't build it on top of some other business yes for
- 48:31example don't build a Twitter client don't build a client for another social
- 48:35network because they will [ __ ] you don't like Reddit again another example don't I
- 48:40mean yeah it's a shame yeah you can use them but don't rely on them they could
- 48:46destroy your business without any notice and it's like brutal at the end of the
- 48:51day they sort of have every right to like they don't they don't owe you
- 48:54anything no no no no of course but it's just yeah it is also a bit of a dick
- 49:00move I mean and the fact that technically Reddit did it better but
- 49:04then they didn't in the end they turned around and did it [ __ ] anyway so yeah
- 49:10there there's no nice way to really do it no I suppose not no there is though
- 49:16there is though I mean the problem with so we're talking about Reddit changed
- 49:19their policy where they were going to charge all the app developers uh well
- 49:23not app developers they're going to charge for API access let's be more
- 49:25specific and I don't think that's a terrible thing like that's no of course
- 49:29not it's it's fine but they priced it at a prohibitively expensive for some of
- 49:35these apps in particular Apollo which was a a Reddit Client app Reddit app he
- 49:42said I can't afford to pay those rates and you haven't given me enough notice
- 49:48to try and change the app to to reduce the usage and all that kind of stuff so
- 49:53I'm just going to have to shut it down and then rather than just leaving it at
- 49:58that Reddit tried to smear him and said that he was threatening them and and
- 50:03said a bunch of horrible [ __ ] about him and then he said well actually I I
- 50:07actually recorded the phone calls um because I was worried something like
- 50:11this might happen and so here's the phone call where I didn't say any of the
- 50:15stuff that you're saying I said and and anyway it was yeah it's like [ __ ] man
- 50:21what so unnecessary why do that to him uh because
- 50:27money yeah yeah cuz they realized oh it looks bad for us that he's shutting down
- 50:33so we'll try and say it's his fault yep that that's the answer to a lot of
- 50:38things money
- 50:43unfortunately well fortunately it seems
- 50:48dune made enough money that they might make a third one now they might adapt
- 50:54Dune Messiah although it does also say because and I kind of knew this he did
- 51:00pull a bit of the start of June Messiah into the second movie that's coming out
- 51:04so I am going to have to come out and apologize and say I was
- 51:10wrong really I was an apology oh wait not really cuz I haven't apologized but
- 51:16yeah you didn't but I I've got to admit I was wrong yeah you can make three
- 51:22movies out of a a guy in a room where
- 51:27waiting but remember I was saying like they weren't going to get the second one
- 51:31out like yeah the first one wasn't going to do well enough for them to continue
- 51:35and now they're looking at making a third possibly which is
- 51:40yeah I'm going to watch it one day you should it's you haven't watched it at
- 51:45all have you no it's really good you'd like it all right I will watch it
- 51:52actually do you like science fiction I love science fiction
- 51:57have you heard of Star Wars so I have I like it's got a sand Planet you know you
- 52:03like those I like Beetle Juice that's got giant worms I like Tremors that's
- 52:08got giant worms yeah there you go do you like um I was going to say I'll do it
- 52:12for next week do you like Deadpool 2 it's
- 52:17got what I'm looking at is Dan's not here for this week and next week yeah
- 52:22yeah listen you're we've mentioned that he's not here viewers of the YouTube
- 52:26will be able to see that he's not here but we did fail to mention that at the
- 52:30start yeah so he's not here for this week next week and then you got two weeks
- 52:35off uh oh yeah yeah will be two yeah yep
- 52:39then I've got a week off yeah okay so in
- 52:44five weeks time we'll discuss June I will I will make mental note to watch it
- 52:50and I'll give you my review of a guy sitting in the room back to the door
- 52:55listeners hold him accountable in five weeks time he has to have
- 53:00watched this movie Y and not Spies Like Us what's the other
- 53:06one what's the one Dan say you top secret top secret that Dan bought you on
- 53:10DVD and sent to you and you still haven't watched it still
- 53:14hav I did take it out of the rapper but hasn't got into anything that will play
- 53:18it yet no okay all right all right five weeks to do that I can do this good
- 53:25excellent yeah do is um a bit weird I'm curious to see cuz
- 53:31he did say that the the second Dune movie that's coming out has some of the star
- 53:36of June messiah in it just I'm interested because well you you've only
- 53:42read part of Dune right you haven't read the whole thing I've read the part where
- 53:46there's a guy sitting in a room I just wanted to clarify I just wanted to
- 53:50clarify that that was that wasn't just a joke that is literally all you've read
- 53:55I've read that part like time I keep trying to read it so I won't
- 54:00I won't do any story spoilers except to say that Dune the novel finishes and
- 54:06everyone and he was like we're doing a sequel to the novel and everyone was
- 54:09like [ __ ] yeah and the sequel is set
- 54:14like I 10 20 years later or something where the thing that was going to happen
- 54:20next that was exciting and everyone wanted to know about like has just
- 54:23already happened and it was like it's pretty weird um is it maybe because when he sat
- 54:30down to write it go I don't know how to write that thing I've been leading up to
- 54:33I'm just going to skip over and we'll talk about it to past tense I think part
- 54:37of the problem was he never intended for Paul at trates
- 54:43to be like a hero as such it was always supposed to be like a cautionary tale
- 54:49about lifting people up to beyond what they actually are and you know
- 54:53pretending like you know cuz the prophecies are kind of all manipulated
- 54:57and a bit faking them and that kind of stuff the movie touches on that a bit
- 55:00more MH and I think he didn't like the way
- 55:06people responded to the book or or to to the character of Paul in particular so I
- 55:11think that's why he did it um you wanted to get get away from it car and sort of
- 55:15start a bit yeah he wanted to say no no no [ __ ] you you you've taken the wrong
- 55:19message from this yeah so I'm going to stay in the same universe but try again
- 55:25yeah yeah yeah it is I liked Dune Messiah it's
- 55:30just it is different and especially if you if you finish Dune and then go
- 55:33straight to Dune Messiah you'd be like what the [ __ ] where's the book in the
- 55:36middle it's like no there isn't one well there probably is now I think Kevin J
- 55:40Anderson wrote some so I do like him he writes some great
- 55:45books he does he writes a lot of books he writes a lot they can't all be good
- 55:50Luke they can't it's not possible I liked his X-Wing work he did the X-Wing
- 55:54Trilogy I think anyway he did like the new Jedi Order and all that stuff I know
- 55:58that yeah and he did
- 56:01um Saga of the Seven Sons it was like an
- 56:06like a his own Sci-Fi series that he did that was pretty
- 56:12neat Tales of Jedi I liked all of them he writes a lot he's like Timothy
- 56:17Zan he just [ __ ] writes books no he didn't do the ACT I forget who that was
- 56:22he's a bookwriting machine like uh Brandon Sanderson that guy [ __ ] now
- 56:27shits books shits them out well that's what you need to do now to be an author
- 56:32isn't it yeah yeah maybe because there's no no real money in it anymore I don't
- 56:38think like at all yeah
- 56:43y let it gets adapted to a movie yeah you You' want to write you you'd want to
- 56:49enjoy writing to be a writer these days otherwise you're fine yeah unless you're
- 56:54um George R Martin who doesn't write anything anymore yeah I'm being factious
- 56:59he just doesn't write what everyone wants him to he writes other things like
- 57:02TV shows and [ __ ] but yeah it' be sort of it' be a tough job because like yeah
- 57:07if you want to make money you need to one book is going to set you up for the
- 57:12rest of your life it's like that with a lot of stuff I wonder if it's always
- 57:15been a bit like this but we were like young and naive like because I always
- 57:18thought you know I thought well maybe I'll be a maybe I'll be in film or you
- 57:23know be a I was going to be a musician obviously for for a very long time I up
- 57:28until like not even that long ago I thought maybe I could do music in some
- 57:32way but I don't think you can these days not easily well it the think like not
- 57:39that it needs to be easy listeners I'm not saying it should be easy I'm say if
- 57:42you if you look at like the writers and actor strike at the moment like a lot of
- 57:47people are going oh you you're making millions while you're doing it most of
- 57:50them aren't no no I do this I do this podcast and I do music I do still do
- 57:57game and film music stuff like that but I do it for fun and if I don't think
- 58:01it's going to be fun I say no cuz there's no [ __ ] point cuz I'm not
- 58:05going to make any money no but there are people who do it for a living who can't
- 58:09afford it to yeah do it like but yeah it's tough like unless you're like the
- 58:14top 1% of it which makes it hard you see see a lot
- 58:20of people like going on strike and they go oh but you're rich and so like no I
- 58:24did a television show it's well the sentiment is
- 58:30that well they shouldn't be paid that much like I I think I talked about I'm
- 58:37not I'm not going to say who it was but there was an actor who posted and said
- 58:40that they used to get paid quite a lot of money for doing like they did a movie
- 58:44and they got paid money every year like residuals for it and then now with
- 58:49Netflix and stuff they don't and then people in the comments were like well I
- 58:53have to go to work every day otherwise I don't get any money like so I don't get
- 58:58to go to work for for four months and then just get paid for that work that I
- 59:02did forever like yeah but but there's that side of it but I'm also looking at
- 59:07the other side of the people who go in and do the actual filming and setting up
- 59:11and all that who are getting paid nothing yeah and they get they get paid
- 59:15once Y and arguably work hard a arguably
- 59:20arguably oh it's it's a different type of work yeah yeah yeah it depends
- 59:26but I would say their work is probably more difficult than the person who gets
- 59:31up and just I I was going I was going to say that to then I was like no it does
- 59:35depend there are it's different different types of actors certainly
- 59:40definitely in some cases yes and I think in other cases probably not because
- 59:44there are actors who do work very hard and then well if you look at like movies
- 59:49where you see like all of these people in the background extras who well
- 59:54they'll just be AI soon so yeah that'll go away but at the moment
- 59:58that they're probably lucky if they get paid for
- 1:00:02it I got well when I was a kid I did stuff like that and I got paid what I
- 1:00:08thought was a lot of money and then like a couple hundred bucks a
- 1:00:14day um that was in like the 80s and '90s
- 1:00:19so I guess that is pretty good right for for what I was doing that's pretty good
- 1:00:25for what you're doing but the the like showing up eating free food [ __ ]
- 1:00:29around and then just walking from there to there when they tell me to like it
- 1:00:34wasn't hard work or anything the thing is like well was good while you're doing
- 1:00:37that it was fun it's it's fun and you did it for that short period but they're
- 1:00:41not going to keep you there day got to tease a kid until he
- 1:00:45throw a brick at us on an episode of country
- 1:00:51practice and then you're even in the scene of it as well you're just teasing
- 1:00:54the kid off off camera yeah yeah that'll teach him cuz I used to
- 1:00:59film A Country Practice which a show that's no one's ever heard of
- 1:01:03Australians have heard of it Australians have heard of it I'd love to find the
- 1:01:06episode I'm in I don't know how us do that though somebody act as used their
- 1:01:10local used to be the Henry laon Club yeah yeah yeah well they didn't fil there and just
- 1:01:16see one the pokies cuz my mom just used to take me to to do shoots for that and
- 1:01:21for um we shot a film called the leaving of Liverpool
- 1:01:27in it must have been in Sydney CU it was it was I think about this now and it
- 1:01:31sounds so ridiculous I got to find this movie we shot it and the fair star was
- 1:01:36the ship but that doesn't look like an old timey boat it was a [ __ ] cruise
- 1:01:41ship so now I got to watch now I got to find this movie cuz it's shot I mean I'm
- 1:01:46in it uh I assume and we walked up we walked down and walked up the plank and
- 1:01:52onto the ship I remember walking onto the first I'd never been on a cruise
- 1:01:55ship before mhm but now I'm like how the [ __ ] did they make that look like an old
- 1:02:00timey was it 1700s boat was it just
- 1:02:05maybe they were just getting the plank walking up that could have just been the
- 1:02:10shot they were getting maybe I was too young to watch I could think of when it
- 1:02:15came out it was like the leaving of Liverpool mhm yeah all right Australian
- 1:02:19movie that probably also no one's ever seen but I assume it's an Australian movie
- 1:02:26leaving of Liverpool there's a song and a television series so it's going to take some
- 1:02:32work I don't think it was a TV series I think it was a movie but I was it was
- 1:02:38movies it was yeah yeah there you go it was the 80s so okay here we go here we
- 1:02:43go you got it two uh oh no this is 93 uh that could be it could still be it
- 1:02:49could be two English children are uprooted uprooted from their beloved
- 1:02:53Liverpool dock side to the alien environment of the of Australia in the
- 1:02:58Years following World War II oh okay so not as old timey as I thought
- 1:03:03I guess I didn't know a whole lot about this
- 1:03:07movie but yes that's accurate I'm gonna see if I can find it all right and then
- 1:03:13see if you can spot a young me hovering about in the background as a little little British
- 1:03:19urchin with my fake
- 1:03:22family I had uh I yeah anyway I don't oh
- 1:03:27what the leaving of Liverpool full TV movie both parts in one thing on YouTube
- 1:03:33on YouTube all right I'll send you the link please I guess I got to watch this
- 1:03:40now um it's a long movie is it CU it's two-parter so it's like 3
- 1:03:46hours 20 minutes oh there you go lots of opportunity for for me to be on
- 1:03:54screen and also and list if if you feel like watching every episode of A Country
- 1:03:58Practice and letting me know when you find an episode where a kid is being
- 1:04:02traumatized by another by a group of kids at school one of whom looks like me
- 1:04:08and then he throws a a brick at them and it smashes through the window of a
- 1:04:13classroom let me know podcast at mul nasm.com there's only a few hundred
- 1:04:19episodes to go through to find that y so get on that yep
- 1:04:26I have for you the link so I saw that thank you MH so what three three and a half hours
- 1:04:32that's nothing um Ridley Scott this week came out and mentioned that he's got a 4
- 1:04:38and a half hour version of his Napoleon movie that he's gon to presumably put
- 1:04:42out on DVD at some point would you watch I can sort of see
- 1:04:48that for this movie I'm not going to watch it but I could sort of see that
- 1:04:51for this type of movie I don't know what to think about Ridley Scott
- 1:04:58anymore I've his old movies and by old I mean
- 1:05:04probably kingdom of heaven and before I like Kingdom of Heaven I know a lot of
- 1:05:07people don't I think it's very good and I think his director cut of it that is
- 1:05:10longer is better uh I think it's very good
- 1:05:15um 4 and a half hours that's very long a long time
- 1:05:21that's longer than Zack Sid's Justice
- 1:05:24League mhm but if they break it up like they do with that so you can watch it in
- 1:05:30installments that might work oh Eva
- 1:05:36Green the the the director's cut oh wait no no sorry they're talking about
- 1:05:41Kingdom of Heaven yeah never mind the Kingdom of Heaven which had Eva Green in it
- 1:05:46more ah this that's why you liked it not not exclusively why I liked it but it
- 1:05:52didn't didn't hurt who is Vanessa C oh
- 1:05:57I wait oh yeah yeah I've seen her in Mission possible yeah yeah yeah now
- 1:06:03she's cool all right and then who else is in this oh oh Wen Phoenix is Napoleon
- 1:06:08yeah Napoleon yeah I don't know which I think that's
- 1:06:13some I don't know why I don't see him but then you look at the pictures of him
- 1:06:17he does look good yeah looks like Wen Phoenix in a hat but yeah yeah maybe I
- 1:06:23just like how he looks who else is in this Napoleon
- 1:06:29Movie W Phoenix murby Edward I don't
- 1:06:34know who that is don't know who that is a lot of people I don't know yeah I
- 1:06:38don't know who that is uh I mean not that
- 1:06:43matters there might still be good but
- 1:06:47look I oh Ben miles I like him there you go why there is like a 4H hour move like
- 1:06:53one I'm probably not even going to watch a short one though
- 1:06:57yeah and that's not dig at Napoleon oh here you
- 1:07:03go uh slightly on topic five weeks time I will have
- 1:07:08watched Oppenheimer I promise okay okay I thought I forgot that you
- 1:07:15hadn't seen it yet I know I still haven't had a chance I just say what you think yeah so
- 1:07:22am I I would like to you just uh and then I also think you
- 1:07:27should watch Barbie as well yeah I'm telling you I'll see
- 1:07:34you'll get a shock well it's got Ryan goling in it so
- 1:07:39can't be all can't all be back it's a good movie yeah and as I said like if I
- 1:07:43had to watch if I was going to watch either of them again i' would watch
- 1:07:46Barbie over Oppenheimer again well that doesn't surprise me no offense I think
- 1:07:51Dan even said the same
- 1:07:54thing yeah may have yeah so all
- 1:07:59right well that's about all we've got time for this week on the main show but
- 1:08:05we do have some candidates for Geek of the week and for listeners who don't
- 1:08:09know geek of the week is somehow ended up being when
- 1:08:14celebrities die Luke votes on which one was the best in the it gives him geek of
- 1:08:19the week uh we've got three candidates no idea how this really started but no
- 1:08:23or why it's even the it's always in the Afterparty now too don't know how
- 1:08:26either but that's what's we got that coming up in the after party and then
- 1:08:28we've also got some an update on uh on some apple stuff so um if you want to
- 1:08:34hear all that head to patreon.com multip nerdgasm uh and sign
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- 1:08:42keep talking we're gonna keep talking just don't stop y yep so all right thank
- 1:08:48you very much uh see go play Starfield I can't we have to go to the
- 1:08:53after party I was talking to the the people who aren't coming to the
- 1:08:56Afterparty oh okay y yeah okay not you not me you can you can wait another half
- 1:09:03hour all right I have to wait you have to wait okay I can do that let's do it
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