Latest / Postcards to the Universe / Jo Ann Fawcett
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- 0:09Welcome to Postcards to the Universe with Melissa Capria. Do you believe in magic?
- 0:15What if you were told that all you had to do was get a
- 0:18little creative and work a magic spell to bring anything you can imagine into your
- 0:24life. Here on Postcards to the Universe, we will share manifesting tips,
- 0:30postcards, creativity, abundance, and prosperity. Here is your host, Melissa
- 0:36Capria. Hey everybody, and welcome to Postcards to the Universe with Melissa Creating
- 0:43the Life you crave. It's Wednesday. How are you guys doing today.
- 0:48I hope everybody's doing well. It's super dark and rainy here today. I
- 0:52don't know. We have like a system or something. Maybe that means the
- 0:55weather's going to change, you know. I'm always hopeful for that. As
- 0:57you guys have heard me say in the past, I love it when the
- 1:00weather gets cooler, which is very rare down here in South Florida. But
- 1:04maybe maybe that's what it is. I have a really cool show today.
- 1:10Her name is Joanne Fawcett and she is an author. Her book is called
- 1:15Midlife Magic, but she's also going to share her knowledge on UFOs and the
- 1:21paranormal and all that fun stuff. So I'm excited to talk to her today
- 1:25and she's going to join me in just a few minutes. A little shout
- 1:30out to all my regulars who listen each week. Thank you so much.
- 1:33I really appreciate you coming and listening and tuning into my show and coming back.
- 1:38It means the world to me. And if you are new to my
- 1:42show, I want to say welcome, and I hope that you do keep
- 1:46coming back. We always put the shows up on replays in the archives on
- 1:52ome Times Radio, and I also take the show and put it up on
- 1:53my podcast, which you can find on my website, Postcards to the Universe
- 1:59dot com. So I do hope you enjoy the show and you keep returning.
- 2:04I am if you are listening to me for the first time. You
- 2:07guys who listen to me on a regular know this already, but it's worth
- 2:10repeating. I am an artist, I'm an author, I'm a photographer,
- 2:15and I have a book. It's titled Postcards to the Universe, Harness the
- 2:19Universe's power and manifest your dreams. And my book I take people's manifesting postcards,
- 2:27which are like many vision boards, I would say, and I photograph
- 2:31them, and when the person's postcard, what they put on their postcards shows
- 2:36up in the reality, they share their story and I have the image of
- 2:40their postcard next to their story in the book. And there are thirty of
- 2:45those in my book. And I have so many exercises and fun manifesting games
- 2:52in the different areas of our life that we want to attract more abundance,
- 2:57which is in the areas of love and money and health and career and so
- 3:01much more. So I hope that you check it out. You can find
- 3:06it on Amazon or Barnesonnoble dot com. And if you're interested in doing some
- 3:12fun games manifesting games, yeah, definitely check out the book. And I
- 3:15also decided to do some live readings from the book. I started doing that
- 3:21probably, I don't know, a month ago, maybe a little longer.
- 3:24And if you want to follow along, there are five minute videos. You
- 3:28can find those on TikTok and Instagram, and I also upload them on LinkedIn
- 3:34and YouTube. So I hope to see you over there, you know,
- 3:38send me alike if you're watching those videos, I would appreciate it. Each
- 3:42week I share what I call a magical message, and it's a postcard that
- 3:46I get that I photograph with an affirmation because I do affirmations all the time.
- 3:52But what I've been doing lately is I've been rephotographing the postcards that are
- 3:55in the book since I'm doing the readings, so I'm kind of putting those
- 4:00together so you'll get to see some new images of those postcards from the original
- 4:08ones that I took from the book. And today's message is, today is
- 4:15a great day. It's a day. It's a good thing to say when
- 4:17you wake up. Right, let's put it out there, today is a
- 4:20great day, and see what happens for you. Please keep sending me manifesting
- 4:28postcards. How and where to send it is on my website postcards to universe
- 4:31dot com or reach out, send me an email and I will tell you
- 4:34how to do one and where to send it. And I love getting them
- 4:39in the mail. I get so excited. I also started doing a couple
- 4:42of workshops. I have one it runs Thursday evenings. It's called Manifesting through
- 4:46Gratitude, a visual journey, and it's five weeks start to finish, and
- 4:50then we roll them over and it's basically about using gratitude for manifesting. And
- 4:58the little extra that you get from workshop it's online so you can do it
- 5:00from the comfort of your home, is that you get to use. And
- 5:03I'm going to show you how to use your camera phone as a tool for
- 5:09manifesting. You know, the things that we already have in our life,
- 5:13which sometimes we take for granted. If when we fot learn to focus on
- 5:16that, so much more shows up. And I also have another one coming
- 5:21up in January. It's January sixth, one to four pm. It's just
- 5:27one day and this one's titled put your Wishes to work and manifest the life
- 5:30you desire. And it's going to be about how to create a manifesting postcard.
- 5:35It's perfect to do in the beginning of the new year, right,
- 5:39what do we want to bring in in twenty twenty four? I can't believe
- 5:41we're already in the middle of November, you know, at twenty twenty three,
- 5:45just blue by like, I can't even believe it. So if you
- 5:47want to find out more about each of those workshops, I would love to
- 5:51see you over there. Just go to postcards to universe dot com and under
- 5:55workshops you'll see both workshops listed and it'll tell you more information. And if
- 6:01you're on Facebook, I have a group called Postcards of Love. It's public
- 6:06and we just share fun, loving, interesting, inspirational stuff. It's all
- 6:10very light. We want to keep it light, right, We're going to
- 6:13keep our energy high. So today I have a really interesting guest. I'm
- 6:19really excited to talk to her. And she was kind enough. Joanne was
- 6:24going to come on my show, probably at a later time. I originally
- 6:28had a different lineup and the person who was supposed to come couldn't join me.
- 6:31And I messaged Joanne and I said, Hey, would you be willing
- 6:34to come this week? And She's like, yeah, definitely. So I'm
- 6:39so excited. All right, let me tell you a little bit about her.
- 6:42Joanne Fawcett dramatically changed her life over the last twenty years seven marriages,
- 6:47including abuse, divorce, and death. The seventh husband was a former military
- 6:53intelligence officer. An active member of the Mormon Church for nearly thirty years,
- 6:58she left it behind to the world of UFOs, elementals, magic, and
- 7:03paranormal, which speak deeply to her soul. Through her many struggles, she
- 7:09found her strengths, gifts and inner power, learning that dreams do come true.
- 7:14She is an international speaker on the topic of UFOs, extraterrestrials, and
- 7:18including the military's involvement. Her book, Midlife Magic is the story of her
- 7:24journey. Her passion is to teach others about this world of wonder and today
- 7:30she is a warrior who proudly carries the title wise woman cron I love that.
- 7:36And you can find out more about Joanne if you go to her website,
- 7:40which is Dragon Hillbooks dot Net. Welcome Joanne, thanks for coming today.
- 7:46I'm excited to talk to you. Thanks for having me. Can you
- 7:49hear me? Okay, yeah, I can hear you. Great, you
- 7:51sound great. You's so good to me. Wow. So first, first
- 7:57seven marriages, you're like Liz Taylor almost Yes. Wow, that's so interesting.
- 8:05I can find seven people that I liked enough to even date. I
- 8:11don't even know about Mary. So was it the last, the seventh husband
- 8:18that got you because he was an intelligent in the military, that got you
- 8:22into the UFOs? Yes, exactly. All right, So I'm gonna turn
- 8:26the mic over to you, like, why don't you share a little bit
- 8:30about like how you got into what you're doing today and talking about UFOs.
- 8:35And extraterrestrials. I totally believe in it. Many of the people that listen
- 8:39to my show do. Many of my former guests believe in UFOs, you
- 8:45know, So yeah, tell us about it, Okay. Well, and
- 8:50I can't remember that was part of my bio. But you know, when
- 8:52I was a kid, we want, I grew up in the fifties and
- 8:54sixties, so we watched Martian movies. That was pretty cheesy. And then,
- 9:00yeah, I didn't think any more about it, and I didn't you
- 9:03know, I didn't even think about it until much later. I'd had some
- 9:09ghost experiences in my twenties at different funerals and things, and then I when
- 9:15I met Number seven, I was still a member of the Mormon Church.
- 9:20But after I met him and I started visiting him and we started talking about
- 9:24other things and other spiritual things and stuff, I left the church. So
- 9:28that's that's a different story. But it's like it was no big trauma there.
- 9:31But then you know, probably years, well it wasn't right away,
- 9:35but years. I mean, I knew he'd been into the military. Eventually
- 9:37I knew it was military intelligence, and eventually, you know, it probably
- 9:41was a good two or three year. You know, it was a few
- 9:45years into the relationship, and he gave me something to read and type up
- 9:50because he'd written this story about a space mission that he'd been on and goes,
- 9:54what, this is real and you've been in space and there's aliens and
- 9:58this is all yeah, yeah, yeah, And it's funny because in two
- 10:03thousand and four he said, oh, there's a and at the time,
- 10:07I was living in California, and he said, oh, there's a UFO
- 10:13conference in the San Francisco Barrier. You might want to go. It's like,
- 10:16okay, that sounds like fun. And I went, and I was
- 10:20just going to go for one day. It's like, oh, I need
- 10:20to go back for the second day because this was all new and exciting information
- 10:26to me. And then by the next year I had enough of his information
- 10:31at my fingertips so that I could have my own booth. That that fair.
- 10:35And then I started getting on radio shows and speaking at conferences and things,
- 10:41so you know, it was it lasted well, I was. I
- 10:43was on the speaking circuit until a COVID hit basically okay, you know,
- 10:48and then I've been on a lot of podcasts and I just start I just
- 10:54did my first in person speaking thing a couple of weeks ago. Oh wow,
- 11:00it was fun. That was fun. Yeah. So before we get
- 11:03into I want to find out like somewhat information that you could share to us
- 11:07about, like the UFOs and extra trestles. But before we do that,
- 11:11I gotta let's just talk about a little bit about I mean, being married
- 11:15seven times is a lot. So so why do you think that? I
- 11:20mean because you talk about and I know in your book, you know's you
- 11:24went through some abuse and all this stuff. Yeah, like what was it
- 11:28that you feel like that you needed to learn to go and be married seven
- 11:33times? Because that's what I always ask myself when I go through stuff.
- 11:35I'm like, Okay, what is the lesson here for me? Right?
- 11:39We all have lessons that we have to go through, and not that many
- 11:43people are married that many times? So why do you think that what that
- 11:46is? Thankfully? Well, there's a couple of reasons. Again, I
- 11:52grew up in the fifties and sixties, so your image, the image growing
- 11:56up was happy family. You know how kids, white pictures type of stuff,
- 12:01and so I thought, that's what you just do. My parents,
- 12:05well, they my parents were separated for a short period of time when I
- 12:09was in I guess you call it middle school now, we used to call
- 12:11it junior high. But anyway, you know, when I was in my
- 12:13early teens in my parents separated for a while, but for the rest of
- 12:16the time they stayed married until my father passed. And so it's interesting.
- 12:22So that's the image I had. And then after I joined the Murmur church,
- 12:26it's all about happy family, lots of kids if you can have them,
- 12:31and you know, and that's what it is, happy family. You
- 12:35have strong family values. And I loved that, you know. I wanted
- 12:41to be, you know, this loving wife and this mom of a million
- 12:45kids. I ended up having one, which was fine because the universe knew
- 12:48best. But and then and then again, in the Mormon Church, you're
- 12:54not supposed to have sex before marriage. You're not before marriage. So if
- 12:58you're in your early twenties and the hormones, you're raging, and the only
- 13:01way you can have the sex is to get married, you know. And
- 13:05it seems like a nice guy, and he's a member of the church,
- 13:09so he must be a good guy. He must want the same things I
- 13:13do, right, because we go to the same church. So obviously we're
- 13:16on the same page on many levels. Well that really was never the case,
- 13:22right, that's interesting, Well, it makes sense if in the Mormon
- 13:24Church you can't live together, and you can't and you're a pract yeah,
- 13:28and you're and you're following the Mormon I don't know anything about being Mormon,
- 13:33so but following the Mormon philosophy, then that makes sense that instead of dating,
- 13:37you just marry them. And you know, there was some dating,
- 13:43but again, right, there was some dating. But again it's like the
- 13:46first guy I married, it turns out he only married me because his family
- 13:50was you know, we were in it. I was barely twenty when we
- 13:54got married. He was a little bit older. His family was pressuring him
- 13:56to get married, right, I was a home exer, Like, so
- 14:01what better to marry somebody that's you know, supposedly susie homemaker. Well,
- 14:05you know, later as we're going down there, it's like, well I
- 14:07didn't really love you and you're not Minima, And it's like, yeah,
- 14:13so I know you said you said it? Did it? Is that also
- 14:18part of the reason, you know, going through all those relationships, and
- 14:22was that part of also the reason that you decided to leave the Mormon Church
- 14:26because of the philosophies that were Yeah, it's funny because and I'll one more
- 14:33reason why I married so many times is because my marriage number two, I
- 14:37married a non member, but I got pregnant, like right, I got
- 14:41pregnant before we got married. Actually, but I didn't know that at the
- 14:45time, but you know, she died, and so then I wanted to
- 14:48find a dad for my daughter. God that we were better off in the
- 14:54in between times because I kept marrying losers. So then I met nubverse seven,
- 15:00who's not a member and he's a pagan, and we started talking about
- 15:03other things besides things you hear from the pulpit. There's more to spirituality than
- 15:09what they're teaching at that church. Oh, there's some cool things to learn
- 15:13about that are outside the little world I know is a Mormon. So my
- 15:18worldview was very small, and all of a sudden, my eyes are just
- 15:22going, oh, and this guy was very interesting. So I thought I
- 15:26would rather go see him at prison for a few hours several days a week
- 15:31versus sit for Oh. Yeah, I mean, do you need to mention
- 15:35that, because that's yeah, he went to prison, so so why don't
- 15:39you share, Oh is he still there? Okay, so then two questions,
- 15:43are you still married to him? No, we didn't do worse than
- 15:46may okay, So why did he end up going to prison? He was
- 15:50convicted of masterminding a murder that happened in the San Francisco area in nineteen eighty
- 15:56two, and while he had the kids did it. Said he masterminded the
- 16:03whole thing and helped them dump the body. But he did. He's saying
- 16:07he's innocent, he has nothing to do, Okay, yeah, yeah,
- 16:11and I believe that after we believe all the papers. Okay. So knowing
- 16:15of his you know, it's like I kind of joke, but it's like
- 16:18knowing that he's this elite military person with all this great training, You're not
- 16:23going to hire teenagers to help you kill somebody and then hide the body so
- 16:27badly that it floats back up. So I mean, if you're trade a
- 16:32military person, you don't need teenagers to help you, and you would just
- 16:36do it yourself and hide the body and nobody find it. So you know,
- 16:40yeah, oh my god, you have had a fascinating, fascinating You
- 16:47can write a book just on all that. Your relationship. Oh my lord,
- 16:52yeah. The first book is about Yeah, that is about the husband's
- 16:56right. The second book is all about him, but you know that's not
- 16:59about you. But yeah, it was like interesting. He opened my eyes
- 17:03to a lot of things. And I've had my own UFO sightings since I've
- 17:07known him. But yeah, it was just just the idea of becoming more
- 17:11enlightened or educated about the world and the reality of things, and that there
- 17:17were you know, there were things that made you spiritual beyond sitting in church
- 17:21all day. So sure, oh yeah, sure, no I believe that
- 17:25because that's me. I don't I'm not a I'm not I don't follow any
- 17:29segregated religion. I'm more of a spiritual person. So okay, So he
- 17:33opened up your world to this. Now, did he work for that special
- 17:37secret sect of the government that was like clued in on the UFO sidings?
- 17:42He did, Okay, So, and his dad was doing that, and
- 17:48his grandparents' grandfather's also you know, it kind of it ran in the family.
- 17:53And his dad was doing this because he was in the military. So
- 17:57the ex grew up around military, grew up in the military. He grew
- 18:03up seeing aliens because his dad would take him to things, and so it
- 18:07was you mean aliens that that are are are here, that are like at
- 18:12h at sites that US military sites. Wow, sometimes they're at bases.
- 18:18And sometimes over the years, the government and the military have helped host or
- 18:26helped they were involved with certain treaty conferences between humans and aliens that happened here
- 18:32on Earth. And one was in nineteen sixty one, so the ex was
- 18:36a kid and he got to go, oh wow. And then the other
- 18:41one, the next one after that, because there's been several, but the
- 18:44next big one after that was nineteen seventy one, so he was a young
- 18:47adult. And then he was part of the security team. So sometimes he
- 18:52was in the US military. I mean he has been in the US military.
- 18:56He was Army and then Navy, and so he really doesn't talk about
- 19:00his involvement with that kind of stuff because his class we are still applied.
- 19:08He's also worked for international agencies or maybe somebody else's government. So those are
- 19:15you know, a lot of the things that he can can talk about and
- 19:18have company. And then he would write things and then I would I had
- 19:22a nonprofit for years, so then I would you know, sell the reports
- 19:25and I would go around to the conferences and speak Oh so what is okay?
- 19:30So so he's saying that there's real treaty because you know people more people
- 19:33are talking about stuff like this, but that there's actual been contact and so
- 19:40why so what I mean, Yeah, you hear you talk about it,
- 19:42so you're like, yeah, sure, it's like nothing. But for the
- 19:45for the rest of us, we're like what, well, like why is
- 19:48this being still so hidden? Do they think that people just would lose their
- 19:52minds and they wouldn't believe it or or feared Yeah, that's what That's what
- 19:59he was always telling me, that the military felt like the general public just
- 20:04couldn't handle the truth. And when the church meta think about this, the
- 20:11church, major church leaders or the church leaders of all the major churches know
- 20:15about UFOs and aliens and have often helped the military deal with it or recover
- 20:23debree or whatever. It's just something you know, the Vatican, the Catholic
- 20:29Church has at least two observatories that I know about, and the Mormon church
- 20:33leaders have have their own, have had their I'm sure they still do have
- 20:37their own little military thing going or you know, a branch of our military,
- 20:42and they were specifically tasked to help, you know, the US military
- 20:47with different UFO related things. So so what is the treaty? Yeah,
- 20:52I wouldn't be surprised that the church leaders the church the different treaties. Sometimes
- 20:57it's you know, will give you this much technology, you let us have
- 21:00this many people to take off. It's oh yeah, people would freak out,
- 21:08people would freak out. Stuff like that. It's often related to a
- 21:11trade for technology. And and so nowadays, what you what you look at
- 21:19is, Okay, if there's a major earthquake or a major tsunami or a
- 21:25major major natural disaster, how many people disappeared and how many bodies did they
- 21:32actually find? Oh? Yes, yeah, I wouldn't know. I've never
- 21:36read any you know what I mean. Yeah, so you're saying, okay,
- 21:41it's been a cover for a whole bunch of people that just got scooped
- 21:45up and taken away. But did they get taken They get taken away against
- 21:48their will? Though? No, Yeah, see that's not that's not that's
- 21:52not good. Listen, if you volunteer for it, that's whatever, that's
- 21:57your right. But to be taken usually you're taken against your will, and
- 22:03it's not to go on vacation in space. So that's the dark side of
- 22:07it. There is a lot of light. You know. Not all aliens
- 22:11are mean and bad and nasty and want horrible things for us. There are
- 22:15several friendly species, and you know there's even one that there's more than one,
- 22:21but there's one that I talk about a lot that works with our military
- 22:23and they have since nineteen fifty two. Who who is it? If you
- 22:27don't mind saying no, I don't mind, let's call them the We call
- 22:32them the raptors. They're like the Rosco raptors that you see in Jurassic World.
- 22:36Those are real. They still look like dinosaurs. But that species has
- 22:40worked with us since nineteen fifty two when they met my father in law or
- 22:44my former father in law and several other military leaders at Hamilton Air Force Base
- 22:48in northern California. So that's just crazy. I mean, so how I
- 22:56don't even know what to ask, Like, so how was there even a
- 23:00communication? I mean, like, so we imagine as like, how would
- 23:03they even communicate? Do they see it? Well? Because because that particular
- 23:07species can speak. You know, if you're if you're in if you're like
- 23:14highly trained, if you're like a high level military officer, or you're an
- 23:18elite level class. You know, if you're upper echelon of them, you
- 23:23get that particular species, you can have an operation on your voice box and
- 23:27then you can start learning how to speak human languages. So this is one
- 23:33of my favorite stories. In August of nineteen fifty two, my father in
- 23:37law and my mother in law, and she was just like, I guess
- 23:42was she pregnant at the time. She was either just barely pregnant with the
- 23:47ex or about to be. I can't. I think she was just fairly
- 23:48pregnant anyway, summer, so yeah, I think she must have been barely
- 23:52pregnant because she was born in June as the following year anyway. So everybody's
- 23:56at the officer's pool, you know, at the the Hamilton Air Force Base,
- 24:00and all of a sudden, eight shiny flying saucers come towards the base
- 24:07in northern California. And there's in one of Richard Dolan's books he actually mentions
- 24:15this because he had pulled that piece of information out of his Freedom of information
- 24:19inquiries. Anyway, but this group of eight showed up, and you know,
- 24:26the officers all went down to the flight line got in their jets,
- 24:29and my father inlawed a couple other people come out of their hangars in US
- 24:33military flying saucers and take off after these flying saucers, and I don't think
- 24:38they had a battle. I didn't hear that as part of the report.
- 24:42But they eventually all come back, and eventually this one loan raptor flying saucer
- 24:49comes back in land and out walks this nine foot tall reptilian looking like a
- 24:56dinosaur, and he said hello as blah blah blah. Prince Naga Draconis is
- 25:03his whole name. So he was royalty. I think his mom was Empress
- 25:07at the time, and he was sent as an ambassador to start because she
- 25:11thought it was time to start working on a friendly basis with the humans.
- 25:17So and he spent like three days at least at the air Force base talking
- 25:21with my father in law and other military guys, teaching him about things,
- 25:25teaching him and maybe teaching him about space, and teaching him about well this
- 25:30is maybe this is what you learned, maybe about the grades or somebody else,
- 25:33and maybe it's not quite true. So just setting them straight and educating
- 25:37them, and that's you know, and that species has worked with us since
- 25:41nineteen fifty two. And they're so cool. They they're absolutely I can't wait
- 25:45to meet them one day. But they have this I mean, they originated
- 25:48on this planet, so Mother Earth is very dear to them. Yeah,
- 25:53that's so interesting. And so when you go and you talk about this like,
- 25:57I mean, al must some people must be like their mouth must be
- 26:03on the floor. They must be like because it sounds so fantastical. I
- 26:07mean, listen, you know, really it does sound. But there have
- 26:11been more and more claims of people who have witnessed and seen, and now
- 26:15in today's world with camera phones, people are catching more of unidentified objects in
- 26:21the sky, things going into the ocean. You know, I watched this
- 26:26whole thing about I just watched this whole thing about there's a bait that some
- 26:29people believe and they've seen the spaceships coming out of the ocean. You know
- 26:33that they have a base there, so you know it's crazy. So you
- 26:37watch this stuff and it's like, you know what, I'm going to be
- 26:41open to any possibility because what do I know, you know, I only
- 26:44know my little life. I am like open, but before we go,
- 26:47because I want to find out more about this because it's so fascinating to me.
- 26:51Let's take our break now and then we come back. We'll talk more
- 26:55about these UFOs and extraterrestrials. All right, guys, stay tuned, we'll
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- 30:08and welcome back if you're just joining me today. It's very interesting topic.
- 30:12We're talking UFOs. I have Joanne Fawcett as if I guess, and her
- 30:18last husband worked for the military and had firsthand knowledge of working with aliens and
- 30:29uh yeah, from other planets, from our government. And like I said,
- 30:33you know, I don't know anything is possible, right, I'm not
- 30:36going to close my mind off to it. You know, I had a
- 30:37thought though, when I was during the break, I'm do you think that
- 30:41maybe somebody set your ex husband up because he may have too much he may
- 30:45have too much information. So it's you know what I'm saying, So it's
- 30:49easy. Well he's in prison, so I know he's going to believe this
- 30:52guy, right, you know kind of thing. Well, yeah, and
- 30:55part of it was he's what do I want to say, he's he's a
- 31:03lone wolf for a lone ranger, and he did tend to piss people off
- 31:08along the way. Yeah, So you know, if you're in the habit
- 31:12of fighting the elite and New World Order people who are trying to control everything,
- 31:19and and there happen to be involved with this UFO stuff as well.
- 31:25When you make them mad, they they can make you go away or you
- 31:30know, I think he's too important to just have killed off, even though
- 31:37I'm sure they've tried many times. But so to put him in prison,
- 31:41you know, they's you know, if we can get him out of the
- 31:45way, then he can't really be fighting us or you know, stopping us
- 31:49from doing what we're going to do. So I do. I definitely,
- 31:55And not everybody believes this, but I definitely believe that they either used this
- 32:00crime as you know, they use this crime as an excuse as a way
- 32:05to get them out of their hair, and it's worked very well. He's
- 32:07been in prison almost forty years, so oh wow, that is a long
- 32:12time. Oh my god. So all right, so let's go back to
- 32:15the UFOs. So you were talking about that one species that the government works
- 32:22with and that we have treaties, and basically the treaty is we get they
- 32:25give us technology, we allow them to take they kidnapped humans in nineteen sixty
- 32:37one. It was different facets of that conference. One part, okay,
- 32:40there's going to be no open communication between civilians and aliens, so that's okay,
- 32:45we don't see them showing up for tea yet. Okay. Parts of
- 32:50it was like do we sell them are spaceships are used? Spaceships for them
- 32:53to use? How far can we allow them to go out into space?
- 32:58Can we continue kidnapping humans? Can we can we let them reganize space?
- 33:05Will we let them defend space? You know they're not They're not real.
- 33:08I mean, the humans leaders know where a lot of the aliens live.
- 33:15The aliens don't necessarily like that because number one, you mean the aliens that
- 33:20are here on Earth live here. So the aliens out in space don't necessarily
- 33:24want us pointing our telescope and saying, look they live, right, because
- 33:30we make a mess of things. Look at the planet. We've made a
- 33:31message of our own poor planet, and there's so much trash out in space.
- 33:37Literally they really don't want us going out there. And there's vast resources
- 33:42out there, so you know, they're already mining asteroids and moons and rings
- 33:47and stuff. They don't want us scorning in on their territory and their commerce.
- 33:52So that's such just one little thing. But so that the treaties have
- 33:57to do with different different things. But you know, I know many side
- 34:00treaties also because often you know, here's the major treaty, but maybe there's
- 34:05side treaties between that government and a specific alien species, might be about technology
- 34:10and you know, quotas and stuff. So it just depends because different different
- 34:16species have often worked with different governments. You know, it's just depends on
- 34:20who's going to make the best deal, you know. And yeah, what
- 34:22I've said before, it's like on the dark side is if you look at
- 34:25where major terrorism has happened or certain wars have happened, like Syria, Afghanistan,
- 34:34Iraq, there's been a lot of UFO activity there and so often the
- 34:38military has to go in and under the disguise of a war is because you're
- 34:45really covering up dealing with alien stuff. So okay. So then so are
- 34:52the aliens something that is our benevolent and something to be feared and dangerous or
- 35:00are they? So there's both. So there's the there's a groups that are
- 35:07dangerous and then there's groups that are not and want to help us. Because
- 35:12I have had other people talk about two channel like they channel you know,
- 35:17the the Aliens, the Venusians, and the you know, the different the
- 35:22groups who are are not dark, they're light and they want to help us.
- 35:29Yeah, and they want our Earth to and they're not giving us a
- 35:32lot of the technology to help clean up our planet and save our planet because
- 35:37they're afraid we're going to weaponize it. So we they don't feel we're mature
- 35:43enough as a species to handle it. So they're like kind of watching over
- 35:46us and waiting for us to, you know, become more enlightened as a
- 35:52group. You know. So have you heard that too in the your alien
- 35:57experience? Yes? And what I can say is, like, you know,
- 36:00when I'm talking about technology, something as simple as like computers and cell
- 36:05phones, yeah, I'm sure, you know, we get a lot of
- 36:08that from aliens, but I also you know, I work with I don't
- 36:13channel directly myself that I work with the channeling medium, So I'm either talking
- 36:17to dead people that I want to talk about, or I'm talking to alien
- 36:22species that want to come through and give me messages. So, like,
- 36:24for example, a couple of talks that I've given, especially the last one
- 36:29that I gave in person just a few weeks ago, it's like there are
- 36:34many species, the friendly ones they want us to be part of. You
- 36:38know, they're calling it the galactic community. Yeah, yea. But number
- 36:45one, we need to remember that we are so much younger as a species
- 36:49than all of them, and we have a lot of stepping up to do,
- 36:52and we like we start frequency or vibration, whatever you want to call.
- 36:58It's like we have some growing up to do or some you know,
- 37:01learning to do so that we're more on other level. Because there are many
- 37:05of them that want to communicate with us and interact with us, and many
- 37:09of them like want disclosure. Some of them just want to have commercial commerce
- 37:15with us, you know, and small stuff to us, so that would
- 37:19be cool. And there's some that are you know, scientists and who like
- 37:22to come explore here. And there are so many friendly species that I know
- 37:25about I keep joking, but it's not a joke. I would love to
- 37:29do. I would love to sit down and have tea with a bunch of
- 37:32my alien friends and really discuss what their families are like and what their societies
- 37:38are like. Because the raptors, for example, they are dinosaurs. They
- 37:44look like dinosaurs. They came from this planet that they all think they callonized
- 37:47space. So they have a vast empire in space. But you know,
- 37:51they have a strong family sense and you have lots of kids, but they
- 37:55have a strong family values, and they believe in education and aren't and culture,
- 38:00and yes they're run by an empress, but they have a government system
- 38:06and it's and then you know, they have vast military as well. So
- 38:09it's not like they just you know, run around as they were not going
- 38:12to attack anybody. Yeah, I mean so, but they you know,
- 38:17want to help and they don't do anything to environmentally hurt this planet. And
- 38:22they need to like manufacture something, they'll do it off the planet. But
- 38:24you know, most they have bases here on the Earth. They're all around.
- 38:30There are a few species that originated here on this planet, and then
- 38:35there are some species in the oceans and things that originated on the planet.
- 38:39There are other species in the oceans that came from other places but really liked
- 38:44it so they stayed. So you know, there's obviously more. And people
- 38:49tend to lump the term reptilians, you know, as is as if all
- 38:53reptilians are the same. But there's many kinds of reptilias. There are some
- 38:57friendly ones, they're so not friendly ones. And the biggest group that I
- 39:01know that is like working with terrorists. And you know, I shouldn't say
- 39:07enemy governments because you know, but maybe governments that aren't on the same page
- 39:09as we are for certain things, you know, they might work with them.
- 39:15Interesting. What other so I've heard of before the Grays? Many people
- 39:19said they've seen the Grays. I don't really the gra So, okay,
- 39:23so have you said you've seen you've seen an extraterrestrial Oh, you haven't seen
- 39:29what I've seen UFOs. You've seen a UFO. Yeah, I totally believe
- 39:34in that the treaties were civilians and aliens are not supposed to have open communication
- 39:39in person. So it's like, okay, I'll wait, you know,
- 39:42but I still want to have I want a big piece of property with a
- 39:46place from the plant and we can all just sit and have tea. And
- 39:51where have you seen UFOs where you live, like just in your not here
- 39:54in Oregon, but in California. Well, I've seen them in England when
- 39:59I've been there, And yeah, there was this one that was like the
- 40:02stars were coming out and then this star we thought it was a start first,
- 40:07you know, like tidy one. It zoomed right and then zoomed down.
- 40:10I go, oh, that's not a star, right. Yeah.
- 40:14Then like one day I was driving from my home in the San Francisco Bay
- 40:19area to the prison that the X was at at the time, like a
- 40:22couple hours away, so I believe, early in the morning, and I'm
- 40:24driving on this two lane highway and all of a sudden, this bright light
- 40:30disappears and comes back and disappears, and it's like, so I get to
- 40:34the Prinson and go, oh, I think your friends were saying hello to
- 40:36me. You know, there's spatient because they could have the ability to make
- 40:39it appear and not you know, cloak it. And so that was cool.
- 40:43And then one of the times when he and I had like they call
- 40:46him family visits. So you're twos in an apartment together, and it was
- 40:52nine thirty at night. This is my favorite one. At nine thirty at
- 40:54night, he had to go to the outer gate to get counted by the
- 40:59guard. Just you know, you're in at there's a little patio, so
- 41:00you know, right by the patio the suergate, the guards come. Okay.
- 41:04So then I'm sitting there watching TV and he's like, come outside right
- 41:07above our apartment because Travis Air Force Base was pretty close to that prison.
- 41:14Where is that now? And this triangular craft flew very slowly over our apartment,
- 41:21like one thousand, two thousand feet above us, so I could see
- 41:23it plain as day red lights, I could. And then it loops back
- 41:31around and do it again. So I got to see it twice. And
- 41:34it was my sixty fifth birthday. Then it's like, this is the best
- 41:37birthday present ever. Wow, wild that was. And I've seen other times.
- 41:44You know. I was at it with a group and some of them
- 41:46were using night vision goggles and I'm going, oh, look about shooting star.
- 41:51But it was the slowest shooting star I'd ever seen in my life.
- 41:53And you know, he said, oh, yeah, those are my friends
- 41:55just shown off, you know, because it's like sometimes you could just tell
- 41:59you know, yeah, got feelings about things. So you said, you
- 42:02said, he said, wait, you said, was this your ex husband
- 42:06who said those are just my friends showing up? So do you think that
- 42:09there's like okay, so that's what I'm saying. So you think because of
- 42:14his experience that they know where he is and can show himself themselves to him.
- 42:19That's so that's so crazy because he's he communicates with them on some level.
- 42:25I could just need telepathy or whatever. But yes, he still has
- 42:29maintains a relationship with them. So everybody who has a relationship with them,
- 42:34it's almost like on a telepathic level, like they can say you know,
- 42:37yeah, you know, he used to be around them in person all the
- 42:40time, like on the base, like just because I'm trying to get a
- 42:45picture, I'm trying to paint. I'm trying to get a picture of paint
- 42:49a picture. So here you are or he is on a military base.
- 42:52You know, there's Jack over there, who you have coffee with in the
- 42:55morning, who's human, and then like you go to another part of the
- 42:59military base and then there's like these aliens there and they're like you know,
- 43:02like you know what I'm saying, it's I that is what happened. I'm
- 43:07not saying that happened while he's in prison because I don't know. I'm just
- 43:12saying that that that's what his life was and mission. Sometimes you'd be on
- 43:16a space mission and he's he's been trained to work with their military as well,
- 43:22so sometimes he might be on their spacecraft. Sometimes some of them would
- 43:27be on our spacecraft. So then our so our technology then is what much
- 43:31more advanced than than than us? Lay people realize because if we yeah,
- 43:37because if we can you know, from the from some of the things that
- 43:40I've watched and some of the things that I've heard, you know, they
- 43:44always say, well, there are technology is so much more advanced because of
- 43:46the way they can move through space and time so easily, and how how
- 43:51we're so limited. But maybe we're not as limited as we're led to believe.
- 43:54I don't know, you know, because I don't think we're probably as
- 43:59advance as them, right, And you have to realize like some and not
- 44:04I don't want to say not all aliens are equal. They don't all have
- 44:07the sapeabilities. You know, some of them have the ability to transport their
- 44:12vehicles through wormholes, and but not everybody can. Some of them have to
- 44:19drive the spacecraft through the Orc Cloud and the asteroid belt and all that,
- 44:22so it takes them much longer to get here. It just it just depends.
- 44:27And and I don't have you know, like the raptors, for example,
- 44:30can use wormhole technology. None everything. And what are some of the
- 44:35other types of aliens if you can think of offhand? Well, there are
- 44:37some really lovely cats. I know two species of cats, cat on cats
- 44:45like cats really that dogs and insects and reptilians. Yeah, there's there's a
- 44:55really cool cat species that looks like a panther and walk up on two legs.
- 45:00So if she's if you're wearing a cloak, you can't necessarily tell it's
- 45:06a cat because you can't see their tail. But they're really cool. But
- 45:08there's they're scientists and like they're anthropologists and archaeologists, and they'll come to this
- 45:14planet often to see there's one in particular, I know about it, and
- 45:17she would come here to explore and see maybe where her species has visited Earth
- 45:22before. And you know, if you go different places, like that's a
- 45:27new one. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. Her place is on this
- 45:31planet, like go Beckley Tepley Tepi in Turkey, which is an old temple,
- 45:37but it was also a spaceport. So if you look carefully at the
- 45:39carvings, this one has like a dog, or this one has a lizard.
- 45:45This one might have a cat, because different species would land their craft
- 45:47there. But anyway, the other cat species, and I don't know where
- 45:52those cats are from, but there cat species. Their world is out in
- 45:55space and it just sits still and other things move has to and so they
- 46:00live in their home world is like in some inside some big sphere. And
- 46:06they are like seven or nine feet tall, and when they outstretch their arms,
- 46:09they're like wings. They can fly. They communicate telepathically. They have
- 46:15this interesting I don't know what you call it. It almost looks like a
- 46:20mustache, but it's really more telepathic. And they hum and they can do
- 46:24a mind meld thing like doctor Spock used to do. And wait, now
- 46:29he told you this, or yeah he told you that he met them.
- 46:32Yes, he met them, and some of them come back to Earth with
- 46:38him. And so those are the two cat species that I know about.
- 46:42I'm sure there are more there's a lovely dog species that they look like hound
- 46:45dogs, and they were allowed to build a base in Australia after the nineteen
- 46:51sixty one conference. I met and they're I mean, they've been visiting this
- 46:54planet for thousands of years, but they're very peaceful and they can defend them
- 47:00cells. Pretty much most of the species I know about can defend themselves.
- 47:02But that doesn't mean they're outwardly mean and aggressive. But you need to be
- 47:07able to defend yourselves. But their sole purpose for being here their merchants.
- 47:10So they'll buy chocolate and bling and watches and fabrics and things and export them
- 47:15out to space to the other aliens. They they won't kidnap people, and
- 47:21they won't transport kidnapped humans, but they'll transport all this other cool stuff that
- 47:27the aliens seem to want. So you know that that's really cool. That
- 47:30is really cool. It's wild. So is it? Now? What is
- 47:35it? So? Then what is an elemental? Are those windows the element?
- 47:43But yeah, that's what I thought. But then I'm thinking, since
- 47:45I never heard of cat or dog planet like planets, that that's their alien
- 47:50species. But I mean, like I said, why not elementals? What
- 47:52I love and see, this is part of the my newer talk is all
- 47:57about connect and connection between you know, I'm no longer just his spokesperson.
- 48:05I'm my own books right of course, and I'm alien. It's like I'm
- 48:08you know, I'm moving beyond that because certain you know, there's fairies and
- 48:15different elemental species that live here on the Earth, and there are other alien
- 48:20species that have their own elemental So you might be on the moon and there's
- 48:23elementals. You might be a species from who knows where, and you'll come
- 48:29you know, you have your elementals with you. And if you're at a
- 48:30conference, for example, we don't speak the same language, but our elementals
- 48:36can translate for us. If you can't talk to me telepathically, our elementals
- 48:40will, you know, talk to each other and then they'll tell you know,
- 48:44they'll translate for us. And that that is so cool to me.
- 48:46And and again like, and I love that your your whole thing is about
- 48:51creating magic or using magic in your life and rewriting your life, because that's
- 48:55what I've totally done these five years or something. It sounds like it my
- 49:00life and I love it because I'm in a fabulous place right now. But
- 49:06magic and witchcraft. There are many, many species that have their own witches
- 49:10in their society. I believe that, and I know I believe I'm a
- 49:15human thing, and I know that I believe obviously, I believe in elementals
- 49:20wholeheartedly because I've had some personal experience in some sightings myself. Yeah, a
- 49:25couple of times, so I know. And you know, yeah, I
- 49:30know people like you know, I don't usually talk about it with most people,
- 49:32but you know, I'm very open on my show. You can think
- 49:36I'm crazy or not. I know what I saw. Well, you know,
- 49:39I'm not even joking. It's like, you know, I'm getting back
- 49:43out in the dating world kind of. I mean, I'm dipping my toes
- 49:45in. Okay, I'm not. I am so not afraid now. It's
- 49:50like, I'm just going to tell you I'm a witch. I'm just right.
- 49:53I believe in all this stuff. If you don't like it, then
- 49:55move on, because exactly I am. This is what I'm speaking on.
- 50:02You know, half of my podcast shows that I'm getting on are about relationships
- 50:07and the other ape all this stuff, and it's like, I like talking
- 50:10about both equally. And I felt so empowered to give my talk a couple
- 50:17of weeks ago at this whole conference, and you know, I just loved
- 50:21talking about the connection because once I got it, yeah yeah, well you
- 50:27can hear you can hear how excited you are about about it. So it
- 50:31comes across very yeah, that you really are liking and you're exploring, and
- 50:37you're obviously investigating more and more information as it comes out. I'm sure you're
- 50:40gathering that. So the talk that you gave a few weeks ago, was
- 50:45it mostly on aliens, extraterrestrials and UFOs or well it was it was It
- 50:52was called the Mystical Minds Convention. So there were you know, magicy stuff.
- 50:57There was UFO speaker, there was all kinds, you know, all
- 51:02the wu you know, you're a normal and witchy magic stuff. And again
- 51:08I gave a talk on it was called like aliens, No, you're non
- 51:14humans because I don't just like to call them aliens are non humans, spirit
- 51:16and magic because I really have embraced this concept that we are all connected.
- 51:25And you know, there's some very spiritual aliens here and out there. And
- 51:31again, like I said, some of my spirit guides. I have a
- 51:35spirit guide, who's the one a raptor sorceress I know and comes to you.
- 51:40And she comes to you, do you see her or do you just
- 51:44get messages? So you get messages message from her through my channeling medium.
- 51:51But also one of my times that I spoke in England years ago, I
- 51:57was giving my talk. I have a quote that is like from this raptor
- 52:01senator and it's very you know, it's like like how everything is unique and
- 52:06individual and lovely and universal and there's so much abundance in the universe even though
- 52:12we all look different and stuff, and just how beautiful everything is an infinite
- 52:19and connected. And when I gave that, I mean I could already feel
- 52:22like my father in law spirit and these fairy or angelic beings behind me.
- 52:27But she was like to my right shoulder and it came through so hot it
- 52:31was like, oh my God. And then I came up after the talk
- 52:36and said, oh I saw what was behind you. I go good because
- 52:39I could feel it. You could feel it. Yeah, that's beautiful.
- 52:44So I love that. I just love that because I I, like I
- 52:47said, I want to sit down and have tea and just talk that.
- 52:51Because I'm supposed to be a teacher for certain alien species, and so I
- 52:54want to I want to get that show on the road. Yeah you want
- 52:59to have Yeah, I don't blame you. Well, you're open and you're
- 53:01ready. I watched recently. I don't know what it was on. I
- 53:05don't know if it was on Netflix or I watched something. I think it
- 53:08may have been on Netflix about these children that actually saw the whole class saw
- 53:15UFO and actually saw a alien standing there. And it was all over the
- 53:24news when it first came out. And then what started to happen was they
- 53:29started to try to change. Now they're adults, right, so it's going
- 53:31back and a lot of them, like one guy like changed his story,
- 53:36Like they tried to change the story, you know, because at first everybody
- 53:39was open to it. And then I guess it got to be like too
- 53:44real because you had like twenty kids who all witnessed the same thing, and
- 53:49then they said, oh, they made it up and they lied and it
- 53:52was like out of Australia or something. It was really wild. I watched
- 53:54this whole thing about it and I was like, Oh, that's so interesting.
- 53:59And they didn't want people to Yeah, they don't want people to know
- 54:01there's a prolific author who writes about different sightings all over the place, and
- 54:07his name is Preston Danity's from California, but he one of his more recent
- 54:09books was all about children as witnesses to UFOs and aliens. I don't know
- 54:15if it was necessarily as many actual alien signings, definitely UFOs and especially happening
- 54:21at a lot of schools. Yeah, so it's like, that's just what
- 54:24you just said. So that's that's really cool. Yeah, well, apparently
- 54:29what was so unique about this particular story wasn't just the UFO. There was
- 54:34an alien. There was something. Someone just came out of the craft and
- 54:39they were a witness to it. And that's not usually what happens, is
- 54:45that people will have sightings of UFOs, but they don't necessarily see, you
- 54:49know, an alien creature. So yeah, it was really it was really
- 54:52interesting to watch it. Yeah, So I mean I am like, so,
- 54:55I mean, I definitely know that we're not the only species on this
- 55:00you know, you know, in space over here. So yeah, it's
- 55:05been it's been so fun talking to you about it. We only have like
- 55:09a minute. Is there anything you want to share that we didn't get a
- 55:13chance to that you didn't get a chance to mention before we wrap up.
- 55:16Not necessarily, just you know, I encourage everybody to have an open mind,
- 55:20and do you take what I say and do your own research and see
- 55:24what's in your heart and how it sits with you. Yeah, just come
- 55:30an open mind, because there's there's friends out there that want to be our
- 55:31friends. Is there any like somebody that you follow or watch that talks a
- 55:37lot about real life sightings that people could who are interested in this, that
- 55:42could go to There's so many people out there in the UFO industry each other.
- 55:46Yeah, there's no one person that I follow, okay, because I'm
- 55:52usually too busy to watch all the other stuff. Sounds like it. Well,
- 55:55thank you, Joanne. It was a delight having you. It was
- 55:59a lot of fun and oh thanks all right, guys, thank you so
- 56:05much for listening to Postcards to the Universe with Melissa creating life you crave And
- 56:08I'm wishing everyone a wonderful week filled with joy, abundance and love. Peace.
- 56:15Thank you,