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What do boys need? 1960 case study has the answer. | HBR Talk 283 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello, and welcome to HBr Talk two eighty three. What a boys Need?
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  A nineteen sixty sixties case study has the answer. I am your host,
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  Hannah Wallen here with nonsense annihilator Lauren Brooks and the personification of perceptivity Mike
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  Stevenson. To finish up that video, we've been examining the nineteen sixties case
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  study, psychology case study, or psychological study of the aggressive little boy.
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  to feed the Badger dot com in the dropdown menu at the top of the
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  page. And before we drop down into this video, I think a little
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  bit of our recap is in order because it's been a few weeks since the
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  last time we listened to it, so I just wanted to remind everybody as
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  we were going through there were some different things that we've noticed in the last
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  few sessions watching in this video, and the first one being that somewhere along
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  the line we may have forgotten, but psychologists used to know. They used
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  to understand that little boys needed to be little boys before they could be men,
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  and they needed to be loved and to know they were loved and to
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  see adults being authentic with them. In modeling, you know, adult maturity
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  and the process that involves like how you handle your emotions, how you handle
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  your interests, and all of these things were being denied this child, and
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  as a result, he was using tantrums and assaults on other people to deal
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  with conflict and to deal with being denied things that he wanted. And so
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  it's it's interesting to see psychologists from the sixties approaching this problem versus the toxic
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  masculinity narrative of today, where we just hear feminists telling us, well,
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  boys, boys are toxic because you know, they are stoic, they're taught
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  to be to be selfish, they're taught to be different than girls, and
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  that girls are wrong and blah blah blah. Well, that doesn't seem to
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  be the issue with this kid. Nobody has done that with him. The
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  problem has been obviously a lot of it has been that his mother doesn't show
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  him a lot of affection, which I do look at this mom and I
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  think maybe she is, if not, if not structurally in the brain autistic,
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  probably socially manipulated by the way that her class culture is to be have
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  like a person who is autistic, to suppress things that are normal, natural
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  parts of human relationships, and to be very poised and controlled, which from
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  my upbringing is just not normal, right, like women women can have dignity
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  without doing that. So we we we have a bad sad thing. I
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  hope you don't read the chat. Well that should answer answer your question.
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  Yes, we we do. I don't always keep up with it as well
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  as I should, but I do my best. And so it's I'm using
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  two computer screens here, I'm using I have a laptop and a desktop,
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  and so yeah, then Derek Workman references as long she's as cold as I
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  which that that's fitting. You know that that's that's actually really fitting because she
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  does seem like a very cold, not just cool, calm and collected,
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  but cold person And it may be that she is suppressing a more of a
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  like hyper feminine, hysterical type personality and that might be why she acts like
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  this. She's gone a full one eighty and then gone too far. And
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  that's that's I've seen that historically with women, and that's that's I don't know.
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  You could say it has something to do with feminism, but it's it
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  has more to do with guynescentrism, in the idea that women should have controlled
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  over every social situation, whether they're they have themselves under control or not and
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  and to that end, women have to have their cells and control in ways
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  that are detrimental to their uh socialnection with other people. So but in any
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  case, I don't know, you guys think there's anything I missed that I
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  should have pointed out about this that that you guys have observed. No,
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  that's that's pretty much straightforward. I have something that I want to bring up
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  after we get through this, because I really want to get through it and
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  talk about the type of mothers that we see today as opposed to Yeah,
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  that's true, that's my point. Okay, Well I will get it started.
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  It's we've got six minutes left of it, and uh, you know,
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  we'll discuss the video and then we'll end the show. So this this
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  could be a normal length show, or it could be a short show.
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  We'll see what happens. Come on, play there we go. Now I
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  have selected the right settings and everything, and it is been it's probably because
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  of the changes YouTube has made. Come on, like your little boy to
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  be Peter, like a little boy and protected from the alligator that's in him.
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  I guess this is best done by beginning to accept the little weak part
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  of the little boy that's in there, which is rather lovable. But this
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  hasn't been developed enough yet. Perhaps if the mother sees the need, she
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  seems to be prepared to deal with this part of him. Again, she
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  has the same patterns that he has in a different way, but I guess
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  without realizing that she's probably have been exposing him to it's rather aggressive way of
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  dealing with things. The point is they need help or they need help.
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  Yes, this family was really in a very tight jam and they need something
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  or somebody to see that there were other ways of living and the way that
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  they have been living. Otherwise, the boy couldn't have lasted in school or
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  gone through school. Perhaps well, this may have been his way of letting
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  everybody know that there's something wrong and some health had to be given to him.
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  This is a symptom, and he's crying out to get the pain relieves,
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  so to speak. He is seven months. This is something that hugely
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  we've forgotten as a society with boys and young men, that when they act
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  out in ways that are you know, contrary to social norms and contrary to
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  effective and I guess functional social relationships as opposed to like conflict and problems between
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  people that it's usually a symptom of something that needs to be changed, a
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  symptom of either a psychological disorder or an environmental you know disorder, something that's
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  caused by abuse or neglect, or being mistreated in you know, in school,
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  being socially isolated, things like that. It's not because masculinity is bad,
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  and it's not because society has molded masculinity in bad ways. It's because
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  we are robbing boys and men of compassion as part of their communities. Community
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  compassion and for women is in broad supply pun intended, right, but it's
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  it's men too. Men have huge community compassion for women as a population.
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  They do everything for us, but compassion for boys and men is definitely in
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  a huge shortage. The silence is deafening. Yeah, And I think we
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  keep talking about stories of people who explode. I guess would be the thing
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  pressure builds up of one type or another, and it's it's usually young men
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  and teenage boys that make headlines for this in a school shooting or a public,
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  very public suicide, or some you know, some situation where there's a
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  murder, suicide and things like that in their home. And when we end
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  up talking about this stuff, you know, people bring up in particular,
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  psychologists and other feminists will bring up the so called masculinity crisis, and they'll
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  they'll bring up their ideas of toxic masculinity, and then they'll bring up the
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  reticence of boys and men to cooperate or even seek out treatment for psychological illness
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  or conditions. But when they go seek treatment, they don't get what we
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  saw here in this video. They get condemnation, they get lectured, they
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  get treated like they're the bad guy, not like they're in need of something
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  to change their trajectory, but like their trajectory is a deliberate offense against their
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  community that they chose with no extenuating circumstances contributing to it. And it's sad
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  because basically what that amounts to is us throwing them away, like here,
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  this one's garbage. Let's crumple him up and stick him in the bin.
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  And and anything that he hurts, anyone that he hurts, any environment that
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  he damages in his explosion right and his self destruction when he goes off,
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  that's just collateral damage. And will exploit it politically, And that's the attitude
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  our culture seems to take. If we could get back to this where we
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  recognize that boys need to be loved first, and to be treated as human
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  beings and in particular as children whenever going up, and that when they engage
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  in dysfunctional behavior, it is not an affront to society, it's a cry
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  for help. We might actually be able to reduce these incidents significantly. Yeah,
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  I mean, that would be nice, but you know that's not the
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  message that we give them. It's it's not only that you're bad and wrong
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  for being the way that you are, but if you don't conform, then
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  then we really have no use for you. You know, you have to
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  to reject everything that you know and that you know what I mean, You
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  have to reject your whole self just so that you can belong to this a
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  morphisic cloud of society, you know what I mean. You have to conform
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  and you can't be an individual. It's it's disgusting. I mean, you
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  can't be a boy. No, you know that's the sad part if you
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  want to be part of society. You know what we're seeing modern modern culture
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  tell boys that enact these cries for help as well. You know, you're
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  gonna just stop being a boy. We can't accept you like that. And
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  I think a lot of in a lot of ways, that's really a driving
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  force for you know, a lot of transitioning, a lot of identifying as
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  trends that we're seeing boys get told that their defective, their masculinity is defective.
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  Being a boy makes them defective, Being male makes them bad and wrong
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  in an in front to society. Well, their only solution is to stop
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  being male, right, or just be gay, you know, take themselves
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  out. They either stop being or they stop being male. And you know,
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  and and and so you get male feminists that that are self hating,
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  that are condemning all men, use feminism to browbeat everyone around them, and
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  and and use it to excuse their dysfunction. Or you get you know,
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  boys that push back and most of the time they're okay. Or you get
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  boys that become part of the rainbow alphabet mafia, right, or or you
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  get suicide factor in the epidemic of male suicide. Yeah, I was just
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  one way or the other. That's that's almost where you end up, you
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  know, and and the statistics just bear that out. And you know,
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  we wonder what we don't even wonder. We don't even care, well,
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  not we, not us, not y'all. But you know, they don't
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  care about these young men just killing themselves. They don't care about that.
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  It's not it's a problem when girls are starting to their numbers of suicide are
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  starting to increase, that's a problem. Oh my god. We need to
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  figure out why women are starting to kill themselves more often. Yeah, yeah,
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  yeah, and then see Derek what workmen pointed out, but wrap it
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  on set. Gender dysphoria is often female to male that that is a result
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  from a set of factors that comes from feminism as well, Like girls are
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  now being told in school by feminists that boys have everything. There's a thing
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  called male privilege that they're excluded from being, you know, a girl make
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  their life harder, and there's a a narrow Now. It used to be
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  that there was a very wide definition of femininity that you could I could I
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  could be you know, uh a cargo shorts wearing tree climbing, football playing
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  sports photographer and and an athlete and uh not cry when I got injured and
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  and things like that, get into fistfights with other girls and and be fascinated
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  with mechanical things, and and right on down the line as a little girl
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  and still be considered feminine, not be made fun of for wearing a dress
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  to church, not be made fun of for wanting ribbons and bows, you
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  know, like having pink cargo shorts and a big pink bow in my hair
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  didn't seem like a contradiction, right and uh, and now that was normal
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  today. If I was a a zoomer going through school, somebody would have
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  approached me and said, you probably are a boy trapped in a girl's body
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  because you do all these things, and all of that femininity that you're trying
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  to mimic is just fake. Like you don't really like bows and dresses and
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  lace and so on high heels. No, you don't. You don't really
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  like those. You can't because you're interested in mechanical things and girls aren't.
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  Right, Like, that's that's basically a huge step back, in my opinion,
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  we should be going the other direction. We should be saying that being
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  interested in baking and homemaking and things like that don't make a boy unmanly.
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  Being more artistic instead of mechanically it doesn't make a boy unmanly. Liking to
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  look snazzy and jazzy and nice. Doesn't make a boy unmanly, right,
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  those that's where we should be going, But instead we've polarized it, and
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  now we have this epidemic, just absolutely epidemic problem of kids with identity crises
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  that are resorting to trying to shove all of their identity crises, which are
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  inflicted by all of this, these mixed messages into the little box of what
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  must be genderedice for you, and I'm trans, or I'm non binary,
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  or I'm pan sexual or you know, like, it's not that they're all
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  comparable. I consider non binary and pan sexual to be made up things,
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  completely made up things that just happened, whereas being trans was made up a
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  long time ago. And and it may and it's it's gender dysphoria may be
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  real, but the solution that we've applied to it is butchery, and it's
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  not helping people the way that it was expected to. So it's but it's
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  all. It's all. It traces back to this influence of feminism, where
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  we and from every angle, masculinity is condemned, femininity is praised, masculinity
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  is made larger than life, and femininity is shrunken down to victimhood of masculinity,
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  and it fuels both both sexes uh dysphori dysphoria and and foe dysphoria as
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  well. Do you remember back in the day, you know, you and
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  I are both of a certain age. Do you remember when it like taboo
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  to or like the kid that had the divorced parents. It was kind of
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  like that was the interesting thing about the kid, you know what I mean,
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  And and it started happening more and more and sort of like you know,
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  it evolved and coming from a split home wasn't as taboo anymore. It
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  was just kind of the norm, you know what I mean, And the
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  kids kind of just learned to deal with with that in their own, you
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  know ways. And you know then it was well, now my mom's dating
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  a woman, and so your mom you have two moms, you know what
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  I mean. It's just this evolution of of wow, what's I'm saying this
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  wrong? And I'm gen X had this journey and we ended up becoming people
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  who recognize that you are not responsible for your family's baggage, right, You're
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  not responsible for your family shit like for for instance, yeah, your parents
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  are divorced and your situation sucks, but it doesn't reflect on you, like
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  you're still picked in whatever order you were going to be picked for for dodgeball,
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  for instance, you know, yeah, like I was. I went
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  from early in middle school, I guess you would call it, which was
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  just the in developmentary school for my age group. We didn't we didn't have
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  middle school. I don't know if it existed in bigger cities, but where
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  I grew up, the community wasn't big enough for that. So about fifth
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  or sixth grade, the kids suddenly started to realize that even though I wasn't
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  great at the throwing part, I was superb at the dodging part, and
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  so I would still be one of the last people because I did things that
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  were kind of acrobatic. I could run up the walls and jump over people.
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  So it was like this weird, weird kid that and you know I
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  had I watched other kids. There were kids in my class that were divorced,
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  and people knew, you know, well, you know so and so
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  can't come over and play this week because they're at mom's house or they're at
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  dad's house. And we had one classmate that lived with grandparents because the parents
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  couldn't get along well enough to have custody and their behavior toward each other had
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  been harmful to the child, and one of their parents sets of parents was
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  like, all right, fuck this, We're going for custody, and the
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  court gave the grandparents custody because the grandparents proved to the court that they would
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  provide a more stable environment, loving and nurturing environment for the child the parents
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  and which was which was interesting, you know, because they're the ones that
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  raised one of those parents. But in any case, what we didn't know
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  for years was that it wasn't because the parents were dead. You know.
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  We thought, oh, well, you know, she must have lost her
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  parents as a kid. And then I think we might have been in junior
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  high or high school before most of us most of the class found out,
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  No, her parents are just assholes. You know, well that's not her
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  fault. Like you learn that and nothing changes, right, right. So
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  I think the mistake that gen X made in teaching our children was we were
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  kind of we were raised by people that invented the concept, I guess,
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  of different strokes for different folks people. You accept people for who they are,
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  and you deal with people on the level of who they are. Even
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  if you have somebody that's a habitual liar, all right, well this person
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  is a habitual liar. We're not gonna hate them for it, but we're
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  not gonna trust them, right, We're just gonna we're gonna have the relationship
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  we can have with them, and we're not gonna try to have a relationship
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  with them as if there's somebody else. And that was that was the Flower
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  generation, Flower Power generation, sort of the end of the boomers and all
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  right, so we get raised in that mentality and we get you know,
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  like even we even had a TV show growing up with that as the title
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  Different Strokes, and that was based on that whole idea. Right, So
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  we we ran with that with this understanding of all right, people are who
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  they are. You know, do you have the relationship you can have with
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  people? You take them at face value, You don't pretend that they're better
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  than they are, and you don't condemn them for things that are beyond their
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  control. Like their family has an asshole. Okay, so their family has
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  an asshole. So does your body? Do you condemn your face because your
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  body has an asshole? You know? No? So we we sort of.
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  That's one of the reasons why we felt like we had made great strides
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  of progress in suppressing racism and sexism and all of the other isms right and
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  phobias and blah blah blah. We didn't care. We got we got to
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  the point where we didn't care if you were gay, we didn't care if
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  you were trans, We didn't care where your ancestors came from or what religion
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  they grew up with, and all of that. As long as you didn't
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  pull shit on us and do shit to us, you know, that was
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  that was all good. You just you be you, you do you will
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  do us. We'll have the relationship we can have and we won't try to
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  have the relationship we can't have. And that worked until we had kids and
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  try to teach it to them and communicated it badly and went way overboard with
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  helicopter parenting. And there's such a failure. And we didn't let our kids
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  fall right. We didn't let our kids fuck up. We didn't let our
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  kids taste pain and suffering and fight it out with each other and learn to
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  value negotiation, because beating each other up hurts no matter who wins the fight,
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  Like we as a generation failed miserably on that. There's only a small
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  percentage of us that were like, stop doing that, that's bad, you
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  know, don't punish the whole class when Brad and Johnny get into a fight
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  because Brad is angry and hits Johnny, And don't punish Johnny for responding,
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  for defending himself, like you know, And and don't stop the fight unless
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  it gets out of hand and they're seriously injuring each other. Let them figure
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  out that talking it out is better than duking it out, like we stopped
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  our parents. Let that happen. Our parents let us come home from school
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  and be alone for half an hour, you know, when we were ten
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  or eleven years old. Nine sometimes and and I mean I had a neighbor
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  that was a latch key kid when he was five, Jesus, you know,
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  he would come home, make himself a sandwich and sit in front of
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  the TV and do his homework or not. You know, he might not
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  do tells his mom got home and said, did you do your homework?
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  But and you know, and there were problems with that. But he also,
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  I mean he's marine now. So yeah, there's there's a lot that
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  we screwed up. Yeah, and it it does differentiate us dramatically from the
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  understanding that we have now. And that's part of the reason why we have
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  all these idiot ideas about gender and masculinity. Thank you, thank you,
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  You like landed the play for me. I was just that is where exactly
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  where I wanted to go and say that this is, this is That was
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  where the foothold for this identity politics really I think took place. And you
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  know that's why you won't see psychologists actually trying to honestly observe a child days.
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  I mean, for many other reasons, but you know, imagine,
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  imagine trying to do this job. You can't fix a problem if you can't
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  properly diagnose, diagnose it, and if you're being if you're being given all
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  of these You know, in my line of business, there's a thing called
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  troubleshooting, right, So you start with one place, and then you go
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  to the next obvious thing, and then you go to the next obvious thing,
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  and if all of those are wrong, then you go here, and
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  then you go there, and and I think those rules have been just misinformed
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  by all this feminist fucking destruction, and and here we are. Yeah,
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  you know, healthcare has. Health care has the same thing. Right when
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  you have a condition that you go for treatment of this condition like this sucks,
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  I don't let's change it, you know, the Beavis epiphany, This
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  sucks, change it, h And you go to the doctor, sit in
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  the doctor's office and you tell the doctor I have these symptoms, and you
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  lay out the symptoms. Your doctor doesn't just pronounce you know, well,
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  we're gonna give you this pillow. It's all better if you've got a good,
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  decent doctor. Anyway, they don't do that, like they look at
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  your environmental causes. They look at your potential genetic causes, your diet or
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  exercise, your behavioral causes. You know, is this chemical? And unfortunately
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  in psychology we don't have very many good doctors anymore. So you come along
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  and you're dealing with depression, they give you prozac. They don't unless you
• 31:37
  come out with all right, I'm going through this situation and I've identified it
• 31:44
  as the cause of my depression. And they still might prescribe you prozac,
• 31:49
  you know, or some other serotonin reuptake inhibitor, but they don't necessarily deal
• 31:56
  with well, how do you resolve the situation that is causing your depression.
• 32:00
  Yeah, and so when boys and men go in there and say, I'm
• 32:06
  unable to connect with the opposite sex, I can't find a girlfriend, I
• 32:12
  can't even make friends with girls. I'm outcast and lonely, that's they don't
• 32:17
  view that as you know, you're right that that would cause problem. Let's
• 32:22
  look at why these things are happening to you and what we can do to
• 32:25
  change your situation for the better. And so they end up prescribing drugs and
• 32:32
  telling them what's because your masculinity is toxic. That's it. You don't get
• 32:37
  to you don't get to solve the problem. You're just going to have to.
• 32:40
  It's toxic that you can't just reconcile yourself with being lonely forever. How
• 32:46
  dare you? You're being entitled? But you know, if a girl goes
• 32:52
  in there with the same problems, Oh, you know, I can't connect
• 32:53
  with boys, I'm lonely, Well, maybe you have this going on,
• 32:57
  Maybe they're mean, maybe you have maybe you're an abuse victim. You know
• 33:01
  there's something wrong with them. Yeah, you do love and and that's that's
• 33:07
  the sad thing. So, yeah, we end up with this. We've
• 33:12
  forgotten everything these people knew. Yeah, yeah, the disconnect is is just
• 33:20
  so Yeah. So see what else they've got to say. I might have
• 33:31
  to do this every time. Yeah, I'm going to have to do this
• 33:35
  every time music. Dude, I don't understand, Like I've said it,
• 33:45
  at the least memory hungry setting the computer should not be doing any kind of
• 33:53
  update anything. Everybody else. Mother talks with the psychiatrist who has dealt with
• 33:57
  the problem, Dr June Cumberland, How do you seek sleep? Now?
• 34:01
  Completely changed, to say the very least. When he describd well, he's
• 34:07
  much more relaxed. He concentrates on more. I think his whole personality has
• 34:15
  changed entirely. Well, certainly I have been aware of the change. He
• 34:19
  was able to sit here for today or or well over half an hour without
• 34:22
  really insisting that he do a tremendous amount of things, and he could play
• 34:28
  in in some kind of a constructive way. Finding is due to his schooling
• 34:32
  and due to his assist to you, and maybe in another sense, due
• 34:38
  to the environment that I've tried to change, knowing when I recognized what had
• 34:43
  to be done in way. So it's interesting, like what they basically described
• 34:50
  here. The things that they were objecting to get labeled attention deficit hyperactivity disorder
• 34:55
  in boys a lot today and they drug them for and they don't address anything
• 35:01
  in the home. But notice what the mom did, Like she gave everybody
• 35:07
  else credit first and then talked about the environment that she's changed in the home.
• 35:14
  Yeah, not describing it, but vaguely mentioned it. When you know,
• 35:21
  watching the video, I would say the primary problem was, like the
• 35:28
  environment that she created in the home. I would agree with that. I
• 35:31
  would agree with that. I think maybe what she's doing here is just maybe
• 35:37
  trying to show gratitude and giving them the credit first before herself because you know,
• 35:45
  I don't know way it does take a lot of work on behalf of
• 35:50
  everyone involved with the child. But yeah, no, she definitely I don't
• 35:53
  want to know what she changed. I want to know what happened in the
• 35:58
  house. And that's yeah. The other thing, like we're just seeing them
• 36:02
  interview them, but you don't know what the day to day is like that
• 36:06
  you don't have a camera in the living room with them. You know,
• 36:09
  it's not like reality quote unquote reality TV that you see these days, you
• 36:15
  know, so I'm curious to know what she actually changed, and maybe she
• 36:23
  should give herself more credit. Maybe that was part of the problem in the
• 36:29
  first place. Is that maybe she just didn't feel like she didn't feel empowered.
• 36:36
  Yeah, maybe maybe the kids finally reaching that age where he really means
• 36:39
  his dad around more often. We haven't heard that much from that part of
• 36:44
  the story. Year The dad is around, but he spends a lot of
• 36:46
  time at work, and we don't know whose fault that is. We don't
• 36:51
  know how much work he has to do and how if he'd rather spend more
• 36:53
  time with the kid, or if he's just as cold as as as the
• 37:00
  mother. But yeah, I think kids before the age of I want to
• 37:06
  say, four or five generally just need the coddling of a mother's. When
• 37:10
  they reach this sort of very active age where they start climbing all over shit
• 37:14
  and discovering their hands and their fists and all that sort of stuff, well
• 37:19
  it really helps for them to have not just two parents, but the presence
• 37:23
  of two parents as much as possible. It's just my it's just my pop
• 37:30
  psychological hypothesis. I you know, what I found with with parenting from the
• 37:37
  angle of a parent from being able to remember a lot farther back in my
• 37:42
  life than it is normal is it's further involvement goes all the way back to
• 37:49
  infancy. You know, in a household where the parents are married, they
• 37:53
  live together, their team, they work together to raise their children. I
• 38:00
  you know, I can remember how my dad nurtured my ability to not be
• 38:08
  terrified of thunderstorms. I remember watching the thunderstorm thunderstorm like a show through the
• 38:16
  picture window in the family room of our old house. I must have been
• 38:21
  around four years old because we had moved to the community I mostly grew up
• 38:28
  in. And I remember him reinforcing something that he must have taught me earlier
• 38:35
  that it wasn't traumatic, so I don't remember it. Like my memories from
• 38:38
  really early childhood, I think the reason I remember them is because they were
• 38:43
  traumatic, Like the time my dad had to drive you know, top speed
• 38:47
  to the hospital when I had an asthma attack and the cop that drove around
• 38:53
  us and led us through Lima, Ohio with lights and sirens to get us
• 38:58
  there just in time. But in any case, yeah, I like Mom
• 39:05
  wasn't the person that handled that. That was Dad, And I can remember
• 39:08
  that and I remember, you know, my son. There's a process when
• 39:14
  you get a toddler used to not being not falling asleep with the parent in
• 39:24
  the room, not having to have the parent in the room in order to
• 39:30
  fall asleep, Like they get put to bed and they stay in bed and
• 39:34
  they go to sleep when you're out of the room. Because when you have
• 39:37
  a baby, you nurse the baby and you rock the baby, and the
• 39:42
  baby goes to sleep, and you know, you swaddle the baby and do
• 39:45
  all this and the baby goes asleep and the baby then gets laid down and
• 39:50
  you walk away. So that process is called ferberizing because the guy that came
• 39:55
  up with it is Ferber. And it's basically, you listen to the baby
• 40:00
  cry, uh and and don't coddle when they cry. You can stand nearby
• 40:08
  and reassure you're okay and you're safe, but not you don't pick them up.
• 40:15
  You don't. You have they have to learn that being upset about just
• 40:20
  not being picked up and cuddled to sleep doesn't doesn't get them cuddled to sleep
• 40:23
  anymore. Yeah, and that mom and dad are still there and it's damn
• 40:30
  near impossible to do that without a dad because Mom's heart gets ripped out,
• 40:38
  like it's having the discipline to not pick up the baby. Really is is
• 40:44
  you need to people or you need to be so exhausted that that you can't
• 40:49
  respond, which is what I think happens with a lot of single moms that
• 40:53
  they don't they don't not respond out of self discipline. So dad's it's to
• 41:00
  a lot of mom needs dad and the baby needs dad. And it was
• 41:06
  my husband's voice, not mine, that helped my son sort of acclimate himself
• 41:15
  to I can do this without being held. I can go to sleep,
• 41:20
  I can relax and go to sleep. I'm still safe even if I'm not
• 41:24
  being held. Yeah, and that's and it. I don't know how single
• 41:30
  moms handle that. I I don't know. I don't. I don't know.
• 41:36
  Maybe their kids sleep with them until they're much older and they can actually
• 41:40
  have a discussion about it. Yeah, but that's yeah, that's it's important
• 41:46
  to the child for dad to be involved way back at the beginning, and
• 41:52
  it's dad that teaches the kid to get a handle on things like panic and
• 42:00
  rage and stuff like that. Well, we're going to process this. They
• 42:02
  got to see mom doing it too. But you know, Dad's vital.
• 42:07
  But yeah, back then, especially like, there's a lot of clues in
• 42:12
  this that they have high income my bet. My guess is especially if she
• 42:19
  is a homemaker, which is that was still pretty common in the sixties,
• 42:23
  especially middle and upper class families. Like women didn't have to work, so
• 42:30
  most of them like their work was making the home environment the best they could
• 42:37
  do. And so if there was a lot of money being earned, it
• 42:42
  was being earned by the father, and in that time period a lot of
• 42:46
  times that involved very long work hours, so he may not have been able
• 42:54
  to get time off to be part of this. I don't remember if we
• 42:59
  saw the father at all in this. It's been a long time since the
• 43:02
  last time I watched it all the way through. I just it just happened
• 43:07
  to come back up in my feet and I'm like, why have we not
• 43:09
  examined this? And that's kind of why I end up ended up putting it
• 43:14
  because I remembered it was good. But yeah, yeah, he was there,
• 43:19
  but very briefly. I mean, we really didn't get much from him,
• 43:22
  but he was. He was interviewed for it for this, okay,
• 43:28
  and it's for me. I just I look at it, you know,
• 43:32
  it's normal in the sixties for us to not see what the father's contributions are.
• 43:42
  They're kind of invisible to the rest of the public. The mother is
• 43:46
  sort of the face of nurturing in the family, and the father ends up
• 43:51
  being the person who does his part without being honored for it. But but
• 44:01
  yeah, we'll see what we have next. Come on, there goes the
• 44:13
  I wonder what's going on with my freaking computer because this this has to be
• 44:16
  an issue with it's downloading something or you know whatever. There you go.
• 44:27
  Well, I find that he doesn't like to be screamed at, not that
• 44:30
  any child does, but if you speak to him in a normal way and
• 44:36
  very nicely, he's led to be. He reacts far better his hottle.
• 44:40
  If you so she was so she was screaming at him, Yeah, basically
• 44:52
  like, yeah, I've heard mothers do that. And then there's there's another
• 45:01
  one that that I've heard, you know, and it's sort of the the
• 45:07
  single mom putting the fear of God into the child, where you know,
• 45:13
  mother is the word for God and and it's it can work if you're relying
• 45:21
  on authority, but it can also handicap your child mentally. And psychologically,
• 45:29
  like the mom voice is scary when when the child is being defiant, and
• 45:35
  the mom voices scary when the child is doing something stupid that you have to
• 45:39
  stop immediately, like don't run out in front of that truck, you dumbass,
• 45:45
  you know which. Like, so I heard the mom voice because I
• 45:50
  was that kid that acted first and regretted later. That's why I ended up
• 45:52
  with third degree burns on my foot. But I don't think I ever heard
• 45:59
  any use it on my son or my stepdaughters. Yeah. And then there's
• 46:08
  then there's the mom voice that mom uses when dad's not around. Well,
• 46:14
  and that one's the scary one because that that that's that's the different kind of
• 46:20
  mom that you know what I mean, When dad's around, she she doesn't
• 46:22
  act that way, but she uses the voice of the bus driver from South
• 46:30
  Park. Yeah, that's that's not how you don't. I don't know.
• 46:40
  You don't. You don't. If you're screaming at your kids all the time,
• 46:45
  you're not doing something right, You're not. They're not learning from you.
• 46:49
  Yeah, but it's it's I think I did use the moment, but
• 46:52
  it wasn't on my kid. It was on Carly Ellison. Oh jeez,
• 46:59
  why I've used them all voice Ellison twice, I remember that once shiells down
• 47:05
  my spine. Yeah, I don't. I don't pull that voice out very
• 47:09
  often. I guess for the same reason that you don't run around pointing a
• 47:15
  gun at people. It's not it's it's it's terrifying. But you said,
• 47:21
  you said something. You said that he's not learning when she does that,
• 47:23
  But he is learning. Well, yeah, he is learning. He's learning
• 47:28
  how to react in the precise way that she doesn't want him to. Yeah,
• 47:32
  he's learning bad habits. Yeah, and it just fuels the fuels the
• 47:38
  behavior. It's a vicious cycle. But yeah, And I mean, everybody
• 47:45
  gets mad, right you You can't deny as a human being that you get
• 47:50
  mad, even even the even the Bible described Jesus getting mad right then.
• 48:00
  And when Jesus got mad, he flipped tables and threw everybody out of the
• 48:04
  church. So for for all of us, as just ordinary human beings,
• 48:12
  like whatever you think of you know, this is this is a myth,
• 48:14
  this is this is the son of God. This is a human being that
• 48:16
  was deified. Whatever your beliefs are. The description in the Bible is intended
• 48:23
  to be of a deity in human form, a higher being with a higher
• 48:29
  mentality and a higher psychology. And he still had a limit where you know,
• 48:38
  all right, this, this is where you know he snaps. And
• 48:44
  so obviously we all have permission to have a limit. We all have permission
• 48:47
  to get mad. It's just it's our job, especially when you're dealing with
• 48:52
  someone you love, to try to have a functional reaction to that. Like
• 49:00
  you definitely don't want to flip tables and throw your three year old out of
• 49:04
  the house. Yeah no, no, you did not, unless you want
• 49:12
  to make the headline news the next day. Yeah. Oh, so let's
• 49:19
  see what's next. A momentous change in him. And of course he's got
• 49:27
  much older, he understands more. Oh, I just take him aside and
• 49:30
  say, look here, if you don't do this, you know, mom
• 49:32
  is going to be very angry and he's going to do it. And that's
• 49:35
  the end of it. And if I'm not interrupted to succeed, if Daddy
• 49:38
  doesn't say yes, and he can't go through life wanting everything and getting everything
• 49:44
  and just smiling and saying, well, I'm going to ask my daddy,
• 49:45
  He's going to get it for me. He has to know there has to
• 49:49
  be a limit, and I've tried to set a minute, but it's never
• 49:52
  been kept. What happens really is that Phillies plays you and Daddy off against
• 49:57
  each other very often many but you and your husband haven't been able to come
• 50:01
  together to try and help by getting together to try and help sleep. No,
• 50:08
  has he been aware of the changes in sleep or would he say he's
• 50:12
  much the same. No, he thinks leep's improved tremendously. Oh, here
• 50:22
  we go. He's he's still definitely a little boy. He's only like several
• 50:28
  months older, not several years older. There's it's amazing how much they change
• 50:35
  though in that little amount of time, especially when they're really little, Like
• 50:37
  the changes between four years old, like just four years old and almost five,
• 50:45
  or between you know, midway through four years old and midway through five
• 50:49
  years old are amazing. So much changes, and that it's even more dramatic
• 50:57
  in younger years. And it's it doesn't ever stop being a dramatic series of
• 51:02
  change until the kid gets out of the house. But it's it's uh,
• 51:09
  it reduces, it's not as dramatic of a set of changes until you hit
• 51:14
  adolescents and then all hell breaks loose, you know, for a little while.
• 51:21
  But this this thing about her and the father not being on the same
• 51:24
  page, like, ye, there's two things going on there that that are
• 51:30
  a problem. And one of them is that he he may be too lenient.
• 51:36
  We don't know, because we don't know what they're what her rule set
• 51:40
  is and what his rule set is. She may be too strict, and
• 51:46
  being that she's highly controlled herself, I'm leaning toward her being too strict so
• 51:52
  that she needs to get more on the same page with him. If that's
• 51:53
  the case. The other thing is, I wonder if she's like this.
• 52:01
  I'm pretty sure this started in around the sixties because of the whole feminist thing.
• 52:08
  I wonder if she's one of those women that had the word obey removed
• 52:13
  from her wedding vows because it wasn't modern. They did that, They do
• 52:21
  that now, Yeah, yeah, Like you go into a counseling session with
• 52:24
  the minister, well, we want to use her own wedding vows, you
• 52:28
  know, And a lot of times they'll they'll do that, especially the more
• 52:30
  progressive ministers. But even if you don't use your own wedding vows, like
• 52:37
  a lot of women do this thing where oh, well I will, I
• 52:39
  will promise to love, honor and cherish. But I think it's outdated for
• 52:43
  me to promise to obey, which is her way of saying I don't trust
• 52:52
  him. Yes, yeah, you can bet. You know. We said
• 53:00
  across my My uncle in law was our minister for our wedding. We sat
• 53:06
  across from him and he said, I want you to understand I don't remove
• 53:09
  obey from the wedding vows, and uh my My response was, well,
• 53:15
  you shouldn't. You know, I wouldn't even ask. I trust. I
• 53:20
  trust my husband. I trust him completely, and that means trusting that he's
• 53:28
  not going to throw his weight around for the sake of throwing his great weight
• 53:30
  around. Like if he tells me to do something instead of just talking about
• 53:35
  stuff with me, then he's he's got something going on that he feels very
• 53:39
  adamantly about. There's a specific, deliberate concern there that he's he's analyzed,
• 53:46
  and you know I trust his judgment on that. That's not Yeah, they
• 53:55
  women treat it as a sob servience. It's not a subservience. It's recognize
• 54:05
  that your husband is fulfilling his protector role, and don't hinder him from doing
• 54:09
  that. Right, that's that's what that is. Recognize that he's taking responsibility
• 54:15
  of head of the household, and don't hinder him from doing that. So
• 54:20
  when she can't get on the same page with her husband, she's probably being
• 54:25
  pushy about how to raise the kid, and she's not listening, and she's
• 54:34
  probably not, uh, you know, taking his authority into question. That
• 54:40
  Tom's was being the head of the household. But I'll bet you at tax
• 54:45
  time, at bill paying time, and and at time the time when it's
• 54:51
  uh, you know, necessary for one member of the household to stand between
• 54:55
  the rest of the household in some threat, she recogniz this is authority then,
• 55:01
  exactly exactly, And I mean, forgive me if I'm wrong. I
• 55:08
  could be. I mean, Jesus, I do not remember marriage vows.
• 55:14
  But don't men and women both have to promise to obey? No, no,
• 55:22
  not not under at least not in the Christian faith. Okay, that
• 55:27
  is that is not how it works, right, And and there's a there's
• 55:30
  a settle Bible verses that go with that. Right, women are you know,
• 55:36
  are admonished to submit to your husband. Men are admonished to love their
• 55:42
  wives. Love is self sacrificing right. Love is protective. Love is caring.
• 55:47
  Love is invested in the other person's welfare. Love is humble, and
• 55:53
  so women have to The word submit has to be used for women to understand
• 55:59
  it. Yeah, but when someone tells you to love someone, when you
• 56:02
  get a commandment to love, you're being told to submit, okay, and
• 56:12
  so obey means trust. It does. Men are not ordered to trust their
• 56:21
  wives because it's their job to find a wife they can trust. They can
• 56:27
  to vet their women for character, and that is something that we aren't even
• 56:30
  allowed to talk about anymore. What's ruined marriage. Why we have such a
• 56:36
  high divorce rate in our generation and why it's seventy percent female initiated, is
• 56:42
  because our parents' generation. One of the ways that they fucked up was teaching
• 56:46
  us that vetting women for character like you would vet a business partner for character,
• 56:52
  like you would vet a friend for character, a trusted friend for character,
• 56:58
  right like you would vet at a comrade you expect to have your back
• 57:02
  for character, is somehow misogyny. How dare you consider a woman to be
• 57:08
  capable of less than perfect character, right right, So, yeah, it's
• 57:17
  and the sixties was kind of the heyday of women deciding that they didn't have
• 57:25
  to contribute their their trust and their character to the relationship that you make with
• 57:35
  a partner when you get married. Right, Like there was that existed in
• 57:42
  the early twentieth century, that existed in the nineteenth century. That happened.
• 57:47
  Women were doing that. They were building that and growing it, this weed
• 57:54
  in the garden of marriage, right, But in the sixties, it exploded
• 58:00
  all over everything just vomited up victriol and just acid and dirt, you know,
• 58:12
  like somebody planted a bomb in that garden and all of a sudden,
• 58:15
  everything is covered in shit. And that's you know, the divorce rate skyrocketed,
• 58:22
  and so did the rate of teenage problems. All of a sudden.
• 58:29
  In the nineties, we had this epidemic of teenagers ending up in mental health
• 58:34
  care, you know, mental health institutions and therapy and so on, Like
• 58:39
  you're seventeen years old and you have so many problems that a psychiatrist has to
• 58:44
  deal with them. Yeah, and it was common, not rare, like
• 58:50
  kids would get locked up for weeks or months however long their insurance would cover
• 58:53
  it. In mental health incident. There were articles about this, like Red
• 58:58
  Book magazine. I remember when I was young, mom reading about this and
• 59:02
  parents having their teenagers incarcerated and just keeping them in And part of the problem,
• 59:08
  you know, was was this environment of animosity between partners in the home.
• 59:17
  The home environment wasn't working. But part of the problem was that,
• 59:22
  you know, insurance was being capitalized on too, like that fueled a lot
• 59:24
  of it. There was a lot of exploitation there too. It still is
• 59:30
  is Oh yeah, you guys don't know it, but you're all neurotic,
• 59:35
  and if you walk into a psychiatrist's office right now, they will find something
• 59:38
  to treat and you will be You'll have problems that they need to treat as
• 59:45
  long as your insurance will pay for the treatment, and then as you'll miraculously
• 59:51
  be better as soon as your insurance coverage runs out. Exactly. That's that's
• 59:57
  true. It's pathetic, but it's true. Can you imagine if oncologists did
• 1:00:05
  that, Oh, yes, you totally have cancer and you're gonna need these
• 1:00:09
  chemicals for the next twenty years. No, it's not showing up on any
• 1:00:14
  kind of testing. We can't test for this. It's an invisible type of
• 1:00:19
  cancer. It's disgusting, you know. It doesn't really need to be said
• 1:00:25
  that our healthcare system needs some real reform. And to anybody out there that
• 1:00:31
  thinks that universal health care or nationalized health care is any better, you're out
• 1:00:38
  of your mind. It's all shit. It's all shit. You know.
• 1:00:43
  It's only designed, well, not designed. But the way it's being run
• 1:00:49
  right now is they want they want a patient for life. That's it.
• 1:00:55
  Yep. You know. They don't care. They do not care. And
• 1:01:00
  if you are not you know, god, if you're just not on top
• 1:01:07
  of it, if you're not paying attention, you can get screwed like you're
• 1:01:14
  Oh my god, the the they miss bill, these things on insurance quotes
• 1:01:21
  all of the time, you know, oh my god. It's it's just
• 1:01:27
  horrendous. And people don't know. They just want to feel better, you
• 1:01:31
  know, and got it. The way they are raping us is when I
• 1:01:39
  in my C section, I uh I got I accidentally got the bill.
• 1:01:46
  It wasn't my accident. They accidentally sent me the bill instead of you know
• 1:01:52
  that they were going to send to my insurance and uh so I'm I'm looking
• 1:01:58
  at this because you know, the amount that it was bigger than I expected
• 1:02:02
  it might copay to be. And it took me a while to figure out,
• 1:02:06
  oh this is it doesn't it's not what I have to pay, it's
• 1:02:12
  what the insurance needs to pay. And they sent it to the wrong place.
• 1:02:15
  So but I'm going through because there were items and everything, and I'm
• 1:02:19
  looking there was there was medication, and there were more billings for medication than
• 1:02:27
  there were medications that I had taken because I couldn't stay conscious on pain medicine,
• 1:02:34
  so like after the first pill they gave me when it knocked me out
• 1:02:38
  and everything I recovered from my C section without pain medicine because I couldn't stay
• 1:02:44
  conscious and I didn't want to miss the first days of my kid's life.
• 1:02:47
  And they they had billed for what they gave me, and they had also
• 1:02:55
  builled for what they normally give and so I had contacted billing. What's this
• 1:03:01
  code mean? What drug is this? And they're telling me, well,
• 1:03:06
  you know this is for this, this is for that, and one of
• 1:03:08
  them was for til On all three with coding, and I'm like, okay,
• 1:03:15
  I was not handed Thailand. All three with codine because I wouldn't swallow
• 1:03:22
  that, and I didn't have an IV at any point in time after the
• 1:03:27
  after the birth. I know they didn't give it to me while I was
• 1:03:30
  in labor. It's not any epidural and it says right there on my chart
• 1:03:36
  that I'm allergic to it. I'm allergic to all opiates. I'm allergic to
• 1:03:44
  fucking poppy seeds, even from the ones that don't come from the plant that
• 1:03:47
  the drugs come from. Right, So, I know I didn't take codine.
• 1:03:52
  So they contact the insurance they build for coadine. I didn't take coding
• 1:03:57
  they build for codine and the pain medicine that they did give me, and
• 1:04:03
  so they fixed that. But that happens all the time, and most of
• 1:04:06
  the time you have no idea because your insurance company pays it and you don't
• 1:04:12
  get the itemized bill and you don't find out that oh, yeah, they
• 1:04:15
  said they gave you these drugs that you never took. Yeah, Or they
• 1:04:20
  said they did this test that was never run, and they said they did
• 1:04:25
  this procedure that never happened. Yeah. It's different than like going to a
• 1:04:30
  grocery store and getting a receipt and you go home and you say, all
• 1:04:33
  right, well I bought that. I bought that, but I don't know
• 1:04:35
  what this is. I didn't buy that. You know. It's it's so
• 1:04:41
  different, but it's so similar in the very same way. It's just that
• 1:04:45
  you don't have the education, the knowledge to read an itemize bill. People
• 1:04:51
  don't have the wherewithal to even ask for one, you know, and then
• 1:04:56
  when the bill comes due, it's just, oh my god, this is
• 1:04:58
  another bill I have to pay. I gotta pay it. Or because medical
• 1:05:01
  bills you can't. I don't think you can claim bankruptcy. If you,
• 1:05:05
  yeah, beca medici, you can claim medical bankruptcy, okay, especially if
• 1:05:11
  you're disabled. In fact, I think you have to have some level of
• 1:05:15
  disability for that. But you can also do I think medical bills can come
• 1:05:19
  off with bankruptcy if you you know. And then the other thing is,
• 1:05:25
  you know a lot of people just put their medical bills on their credit card
• 1:05:27
  anyway, so the facility gets paid, but you still end up declaring bankruptcy.
• 1:05:34
  Uh, you know. But yeah, and when it comes to when
• 1:05:40
  it comes to situations like this, you know, the worst part of it,
• 1:05:45
  in my opinion, is that what they basically had done was, oh
• 1:05:49
  see section berth. Okay, here are the standard things that are done.
• 1:05:53
  And I don't really think they give coding as a standard after birth thing if
• 1:05:58
  the mother is nursing. But that's what they had. Maybe there weren't.
• 1:06:02
  Maybe it wasn't as common to nurse in ninety nine as as it was in
• 1:06:09
  the eighties and the seventies and the fifties and before. I don't know.
• 1:06:15
  I like it's it is important, but but they just assumed, well,
• 1:06:21
  there's the standard, this is the standard procedure. We're gonna build for the
• 1:06:24
  standard procedure. Nothing is listed as abnormal that they did. They didn't list
• 1:06:29
  having done anything more than the standard procedure, so we don't build for anything
• 1:06:33
  extra. Oh wait, no, here's this other medication. Well we'll just
• 1:06:36
  add it onto the bill. They wouldn't have given those medications together. That
• 1:06:40
  would have killed me. Probably a normal person, it would have knocked him
• 1:06:44
  out right. But in any case, Yeah, that's I think that's how
• 1:06:49
  that kind of medical building mistake happens, like, oh, this is what
• 1:06:53
  we normally do, so we'll build for that. I gotta say, it
• 1:06:58
  blows me away because you know when thinking about having a kid, it costs
• 1:07:03
  money. Even if you have insurance, it costs money to have a kid.
• 1:07:09
  I can't where do these single mothers who keep popping out baby after baby
• 1:07:14
  after baby? Who is paying these hospital bills for all these kids that are
• 1:07:19
  being born? Oh, Lauren, you are, I know, our listeners
• 1:07:25
  are. It's just a beautiful that. It's unbelievable. People who actually care
• 1:07:32
  and think and plan and prepare a head. We are the ones that get
• 1:07:38
  fined. We are the ones that have to pay the call. We pay
• 1:07:41
  the cost for our own children to be born. And on top of that,
• 1:07:45
  we're still paying for all of these report these god these better kids being
• 1:07:50
  born every day to the same twenty percent of guys out there, yep.
• 1:07:57
  And are situation is that you pay for it multiple times, right. You
• 1:08:04
  pay for the expenses related to bringing kid into the world. You pay for
• 1:08:11
  the Health and Human Services Department, You pay for the the funding that gets
• 1:08:19
  you know, sent to these mothers from the various agencies within the Health and
• 1:08:25
  Human Services Department, and then you pay for the child's education you know,
• 1:08:32
  in your community. And you also pay for systems that are designed to not
• 1:08:40
  help the child if he experiences dysfunction like juvenile detention facilities. Right, and
• 1:08:47
  then if the child doesn't get the child rearing he needs and the help he
• 1:08:53
  needs and so on, then you pay for is welfare. If he goes
• 1:09:01
  on programs with health and Human Services, or if he gets sucked into the
• 1:09:06
  mass incarcerations system, you pay for that. You pay for the extra security
• 1:09:14
  that's needed in your community because of the failures of these parents and the failures
• 1:09:21
  in child rearing. You pay for services we need as a community to protect
• 1:09:29
  your home and to rehabilitate people, and to have a war between our hired
• 1:09:39
  mercenaries as a community, our gang of thugs and the gangs of thugs that
• 1:09:43
  are selling drugs that make the problem worse. Right, you pay through your
• 1:09:46
  those most of your tax dollars go to fund the dysfunction of fatherless homes.
• 1:10:00
  There you go, you pay for a military to defend the United States,
• 1:10:05
  and then they send them to war in other countries that have conflicts that should
• 1:10:12
  have nothing to do with us. And the only reason that they do have
• 1:10:15
  anything to do with us is because our government has had their fingers in those
• 1:10:18
  conflicts for years without cause. You know, and other countries might attack us
• 1:10:26
  because they think we're weak because of the whole fatherless homes problem. There you
• 1:10:30
  go, well, I mean, yeah, look at what we're doing.
• 1:10:32
  And this is what I was trying to talk about it in the beginning,
• 1:10:38
  or what I wanted to talk about in the beginning of the show. There's
• 1:10:43
  a video of some chick. I don't know why she thought this was a
• 1:10:46
  good idea, but she posted a video to TikTok. I guess she was
• 1:10:50
  waking up and she's got three young sons. I think the oldest one was
• 1:10:55
  like nine, eight and six and whatever, and so they're waking her up,
• 1:11:00
  and so she's starting the video and they go, yeah, you know,
• 1:11:03
  mommy, we have to we have to check on you because you know,
• 1:11:08
  you don't have a man, and so you know, like where your
• 1:11:11
  young men. We're like, you're a young man where you're Yeah, And
• 1:11:15
  this is what they're doing. This is what is being created now is the
• 1:11:19
  son husband generation. Okay, these women are treating their young sons as if
• 1:11:27
  they have to be the head of the household, the man of the house,
• 1:11:30
  no matter how young they are. Yeah, and it's it was sickening
• 1:11:38
  to see in the video because these young minds have just absorbed it as if
• 1:11:45
  it's just, oh, yes, this is what we're we have to take
• 1:11:48
  care of mommy. No, little man, your mother and your father are
• 1:11:53
  supposed to be taking care of you, not the other way around. This
• 1:11:58
  is completely flipped on its head. You know, you see women talking about
• 1:12:04
  they are raising their kids to be the young boys. They want them to
• 1:12:13
  be athletes or young rappers, you know what I mean, just so they
• 1:12:15
  can get taken care of. It's completely flipped on its head. That's not
• 1:12:21
  the way this works, lady. And it's all because we have just given
• 1:12:29
  deference to women, and this is how they want their society. They don't
• 1:12:33
  want the men in their lives, they don't want the fathers in the household,
• 1:12:38
  they don't want the men around their children. Okay, well, this
• 1:12:42
  is what you're raising, and you would have to be would have to be
• 1:12:49
  of another mind to not know that. Trying to knows this, trying to
• 1:12:57
  knows what we're raising, trying to know they are we are Russia knows.
• 1:13:05
  And the reason they know is because the pathway to this was broadened by the
• 1:13:15
  communist syop on the United States that was effective because women were open to it.
• 1:13:24
  Yep. So yeah, and they use they use social media to get
• 1:13:30
  all of your information, so forget it, like we are cooked, we
• 1:13:36
  are fucking cooked. It's it's partly why I wanted to look back at this.
• 1:13:42
  This is a simpler time that that this represents. Right, the problem
• 1:13:45
  in this household, the problem this boy was facing was that his mother needed
• 1:13:50
  to grow up a little bit. That was the primary issue. She needed
• 1:13:55
  to stop being so self conscious about how she handled, you know, her
• 1:14:01
  relationship with her kid and start being more conscious of him and his needs and
• 1:14:09
  including his need to learn things like how to deal with his emotions productively and
• 1:14:15
  how she needed to model that. All right, that's and she still is
• 1:14:21
  part of the problem. There are still going to be problems in that house,
• 1:14:24
  and there are still things that will need to change based on what she
• 1:14:28
  just said. Right, That's that's a much easier to remedy problem in a
• 1:14:34
  time period where women could say I am part of the problem. I need
• 1:14:40
  to fix these things about myself so that I can help my my family.
• 1:14:45
  Right today, the problem is that we can't do that, that we've completely
• 1:14:50
  created an environment of dysfunction, lack of accountability and insecurity for children. Uh
• 1:15:00
  and and it's the norm now. So yeah, it's it's interesting to look
• 1:15:06
  back at this and see the difference. Let's let's go on and see the
• 1:15:12
  kid play a little bit here and see what else they have to say on
• 1:15:15
  the subject. If I can get this stupid video to play about getting things
• 1:15:23
  on your hand? Why, I'm afraid my mother's gonna give me a hit?
• 1:15:30
  Afraid for getting yourself dirty? Yeah? Could you tell her we at
• 1:15:38
  the paint? I'll tell her the baby, what's you're gonna do? Banker?
• 1:15:51
  And there's a father after mother? What let me one daddy going to
• 1:15:56
  do? Thank the mother? And the mother's gonna spake the baby? Well
• 1:16:00
  he has the h How does the baby feel? Revealing the nuggative inform people
• 1:16:13
  have fights in your family sometimes? Why? Who fights in your family?
• 1:16:18
  My mom? Uh huh? And uh huh? And what do you feel
• 1:16:23
  like when they have an argument? I feel like I'm sad? You feel
• 1:16:28
  sad inside? Yeah? Do you tell them you feel sad inside? And
• 1:16:31
  I punish you, I'll feel bad for them. Why do you feel sad
• 1:16:35
  for them when they punish you? Because I feel fat? Do you ever
• 1:16:41
  feel angry inside. I sure do. When do you feel angry when they
• 1:16:47
  when they start to tell me what to do? You don't like to be
• 1:16:50
  told what to do. No, I'll tell them what to do. So
• 1:16:56
  you have a couple of things going on there. So the first thing I'm
• 1:17:00
  going to point out is it's okay for the kids to see mommy and daddy
• 1:17:08
  having an argument. When mommy and daddy argue with love, here's my perspective,
• 1:17:15
  what's your perspective. I disagree with your perspective, here are my reasons,
• 1:17:19
  and then in the end they can resolve it. Oh, I get
• 1:17:25
  this about your perspective, and oh, thank you for getting this about my
• 1:17:29
  perspective. And maybe we're going to compromise this way, or maybe we're going
• 1:17:32
  to do it your way, or maybe you know, you agree, we're
• 1:17:35
  going to do it my way, you know, and based on what we
• 1:17:41
  have learned from the discussion with each other about what's important to the other person
• 1:17:45
  and what information the other person is basing their decision on and everything. And
• 1:17:53
  that's that's reasonable, right. I saw my parents do that growing up.
• 1:17:57
  My kids saw us do that growing up. And you can even get impatient
• 1:18:01
  sometimes you're going to snap at each other in stressful situations. That's not abnormal,
• 1:18:09
  Like that's normal. It's also important for your kids to see how you
• 1:18:14
  deal afterwards with that. You know, Mommy snapped it daddy and then said
• 1:18:18
  I'm sorry that wasn't right. I shouldn't have done that, you know,
• 1:18:23
  Or Daddy snapped at mommy and then said, I'm sorry that wasn't right.
• 1:18:26
  I shouldn't have done that, And reassuring each other that you still love each
• 1:18:30
  other and that that's not the relationship. The way that your relationship is that
• 1:18:35
  you are mean to each other because you disagree. And unfortunately, in a
• 1:18:41
  lot of relationships, people's egos get in the way and they don't listen to
• 1:18:45
  each other, and they don't care as much about the other person's perspective and
• 1:18:51
  the information on which the other person's decisions are based as they do about getting
• 1:18:58
  their point across and getting the other person to surrender. And I think that
• 1:19:05
  that leads to a lot of responses like this kid. The kid is sad
• 1:19:12
  because he's helpless to remedy the situation, and he knows that something bad is
• 1:19:16
  going to come out of that behavior, Like can continued conflict, continued animosity,
• 1:19:23
  yelling, a harsh environment, or divorce. Right, So, and
• 1:19:30
  he doesn't he doesn't learn. What he learns from them is that when someone
• 1:19:33
  tells you what to do, when someone contradicts your interests, your beliefs,
• 1:19:41
  your information, your thoughts, whatever, you get mad. And so that's
• 1:19:47
  what he does. He gets mad. Play damn it. Nope, they'd
• 1:20:00
  like there we go, the one who controls everything in your family. I
• 1:20:05
  like them tremendously ex warm, he says, going. He's charming, a
• 1:20:10
  little smile when he's happier. He's a delightful little boy to have around.
• 1:20:15
  He's pride toopen, discuss with them all sorts of things. His comprehension is
• 1:20:21
  very good and we enjoy having him very much. We have other children and
• 1:20:27
  with the same problems due to other reasons. But what help. And of
• 1:20:34
  course they do get sedation medicine to help them to learn to live with themselves
• 1:20:42
  not be hyperactive. See that started back in the late fifties early sixties.
• 1:20:46
  But we've seen some wonderful results in the past. They do get sedation.
• 1:20:51
  She sounds like she's had some sidation. Yeah, but you know it's like
• 1:20:59
  people, people think, and the kids are the ones going, I want
• 1:21:00
  to be sedated. No, that was the women, right, women,
• 1:21:06
  women took to sedation pretty quickly. Where mother's little helper came from? Right,
• 1:21:14
  But most kids don't need drugged very rarely. Is there something so out
• 1:21:23
  of balance at that age that they need drugged to change their psychology. Now
• 1:21:30
  some kids, do you know? Kids need drugged for all all kinds of
• 1:21:34
  other things, allergies, illnesses that have other like. There was even the
• 1:21:43
  reason that uh hormones that sort of put off or change the progress of someone's
• 1:21:54
  puberty, or called puberty blockers, is because they used to use them to
• 1:21:58
  delay the onset of a girl's period if she started too early. And there's
• 1:22:02
  there's evidence that starting too early can reduce the length of your life significantly,
• 1:22:11
  you know. And so it's one thing, you know, she starts at
• 1:22:17
  like ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, But occasionally one will start when
• 1:22:24
  she's eight or younger, and a doctor will prescribe medication to put that off
• 1:22:30
  for a few years so that she can get older before she her body starts
• 1:22:38
  putting her through all the things that your body puts you through when it's getting
• 1:22:42
  ready to conceive. So there's that, but for the most part, you
• 1:22:46
  don't have to drug kids for most reasons. And when I was growing up,
• 1:22:51
  I like, Lauren, when you were growing up, did you know
• 1:22:54
  very many kids that were on a lot of medication. No? None.
• 1:23:01
  I was the kid that was on a lot of medication. I had steroids
• 1:23:04
  and and anti histamines and decongestics and all that shit because of my asthma.
• 1:23:11
  Right, there was there were physical symptoms that were the reason for all of
• 1:23:17
  that that that were dangerous, you know, like I multiple times my body
• 1:23:23
  tried to kill itself, just you know, in response to ordinary things.
• 1:23:29
  But I didn't know anybody personally, I think, until I was in high
• 1:23:38
  school that had been medicated for attention deficit disorder. No, no, I
• 1:23:43
  did. I knew one boy and he had been prescribed medication for attention deficit
• 1:23:49
  disorder and his mom took it to get high, Oh Jesus. And he
• 1:23:58
  didn't have attention deficit disorder, the classic psychological attention deficit disorder. He had
• 1:24:02
  a deficit of parental attention. Right, Apparently it's the other attention deficit disorder.
• 1:24:15
  But I did. I didn't know anybody that actually was prescribed those drugs
• 1:24:20
  due to the chemical imbalance that that makes it difficult for them to focus and
• 1:24:29
  uh and needed them for for any length of time till I was in high
• 1:24:32
  school. That was when I first first met And then the kid wasn't a
• 1:24:36
  kid that was local to me. This was somebody that I met through being
• 1:24:44
  being involved in the Great Lakes Interscholastic Press Association. So and I met a
• 1:24:49
  kid there with ADHD. But yeah, yeah, I've never known anyone that
• 1:24:57
  that was actually admittedly to me, prescribed or you know anything. But I
• 1:25:03
  mean, thinking back, I think there might have been maybe one or two
• 1:25:09
  people who maybe could have benefited, yeah from it, But no, no,
• 1:25:15
  like when we were the age of high school kids in early college age,
• 1:25:21
  that's when there was this explosion of schools prescribing Riddlin And I think,
• 1:25:30
  what's the other one? Adderall came out about that time. It might be
• 1:25:34
  newer than that, but I think it came out about that time. And
• 1:25:36
  all of a sudden, there was this constant you're hearing about, you know,
• 1:25:42
  whole classrooms full of kids, and we've got we've actually got a superchow
• 1:25:45
  on this Richard Bierre has given us two super chows. The first one was
• 1:25:49
  five dollars and said, but we enrolled him in the finest boarding schools and
• 1:25:53
  hired the best nannies, so this shouldn't be happening, you know. And
• 1:25:57
  then he gave us another five dollars and said, remember when the big diagnoses
• 1:26:00
  from schools, And it was from schools, by the way, was adhd
• 1:26:04
  or add and how entire classes, if not schools, were diagnosed as such
• 1:26:08
  and then also medicated into being compliant students. Pepperidge Farm remembers I remember because
• 1:26:15
  my dad was very upset about it. You know. It's it was being
• 1:26:20
  used as a crutch, right, Parents and schools were using it as a
• 1:26:27
  crutch to avoid having to act as mentors to kids. When we're not going
• 1:26:32
  to mentor you. We're just gonna make you take these drugs. It will
• 1:26:36
  be all good. Yeah, I remember that very much. And it's very
• 1:26:44
  unfortunate that that that happened and continues to happen. So and let's see Meredith
• 1:26:55
  g gave us five dollars and said, HBr talk to eighty three. By
• 1:26:58
  making femininitynomous with victimhood, it has devalued it so much that we are taught
• 1:27:02
  to dislike it. It's why crazy people want to erase gender. My dad
• 1:27:06
  taught me how to sew and iron because his family worked in the garment industry.
• 1:27:11
  He also taught me how to fix things around the house and how to
• 1:27:14
  change attire and check my oil. We need to stop categorizing these skills as
• 1:27:17
  masculine and feminine and start calling them what my mother called them, life skills.
• 1:27:24
  Yes, well, my dad, my dad always said, you know,
• 1:27:28
  I learned to develop film in the dark room, in print pictures,
• 1:27:32
  to compose properly and capture the right moments in for news publication, in you
• 1:27:41
  know, events at various events, including sports, even sports that I didn't
• 1:27:45
  play and didn't know all the rules of, you know, like all the
• 1:27:50
  ins and outs and everything. I couldn't name every position on a football team,
• 1:27:56
  even though like as a little kid I played it with the boys.
• 1:27:59
  The sickly would hand me the ball and say run this way, or they
• 1:28:01
  would say, you know, knock this person down or stop this person from
• 1:28:05
  knocking that person down. You know, like that was it. There was
• 1:28:08
  there was no you are this do this and and because at that age,
• 1:28:14
  you know, it was like oh yeah, well this, there's another kid
• 1:28:16
  on our team, where yay, we've got a whole team. Yeah,
• 1:28:21
  but if we'd have been pig farmers, I'd have learned to raise pigs.
• 1:28:27
  I'd have been slapping the hogs. You know. If if my parents were
• 1:28:32
  in medicine, well, hecked, my grandmother was in medicine, and I
• 1:28:35
  know more about medicine than your average layman because of it. There's a lot
• 1:28:41
  of stuff that you know, I grew up with medical hand washing as a
• 1:28:45
  norm in my household. Everything that the public learned about hand washing during the
• 1:28:55
  COVID crisis, I already knew that well by the time I was five.
• 1:29:00
  So but yeah, like that's that's that's the norm you teach your kids.
• 1:29:05
  But not not anymore, you know. Now you teach them that their gender
• 1:29:09
  is messed up. Richard Bierre gave us five dollars and said, wasn't it
• 1:29:14
  in the nineteen sixties when a whole lot of housewives for being put on tranquilizers
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  or was that the seventies? Actually that started, I want to say the
• 1:29:21
  early fifties and continued on indefinitely. Like the tranquilizers have changed, but they've
• 1:29:30
  they were prescribing queludes in the seventies. There are ads in old nineteen seventies
• 1:29:38
  magazines for how queludes can help you deal with life? Oh, my god,
• 1:29:43
  not kidding, not kidding. Let's see, there were Oh, there
• 1:29:53
  were things like you know, thorizine and the other zombie drugs. There were
• 1:29:59
  barbituates were prescribed. And then of course there was a time period when you
• 1:30:05
  could get codeine over the counter and you could buy a liquid form and in
• 1:30:11
  your cough medicine, and women were using that to tranquilize themselves because women are
• 1:30:15
  naturally pretty neurotic. Uh and uh, especially in compared to men. There's
• 1:30:24
  there's a there's low grade neuroses that is just part of women's normal psychology.
• 1:30:30
  The way we panic over stupid things like a critter that is the size of
• 1:30:34
  your thumbnail showing up in front of you and and and looking all scary because
• 1:30:41
  it has too many legs, Like you can kill this by stepping on it,
• 1:30:46
  but you're too scared to approach it because it has too many legs.
• 1:30:50
  Yeah, then if you look at it up close, it has googly eyes.
• 1:30:55
  But if you know, you're not gonna get that close because it has
• 1:30:58
  too many legs. I mean, listen, statistically, I don't like the
• 1:31:01
  odds. Okay, I'm sorry, I don't like the creepy crawleys. I
• 1:31:08
  know. Well. I mean I'll do the holy freaking Yuckie spider dance,
• 1:31:11
  right, the heb GB dance if one is on me. And I wasn't
• 1:31:15
  expecting it, But I still see it as nonsense, Like why the fun
• 1:31:19
  do we do that? You can kill this thing by specking it with your
• 1:31:24
  hand? You know why? Because Australia. I think Australia has ruined us
• 1:31:31
  for spiders everywhere. It's like everything with anything, it's just trying to kill
• 1:31:36
  us. Australia gets a bad rap. But have you ever seen a Brazilian
• 1:31:42
  bird spider? No, I don't want to do. You why they're called
• 1:31:49
  why? I don't know, but you're gonna tell me it can catch him
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  eat small birds. It's a big enough spider like that thing is. You
• 1:32:00
  know you you killed those spiders and kill them and cook them and eat them
• 1:32:05
  like crabs? Right? Those are yeah? God yeah, some spiders are
• 1:32:13
  nasty and poisonous like I it's fair to freak out if you see a brown
• 1:32:16
  recluse or black widow or red widow or any of those, or oh,
• 1:32:21
  what's the poisonous one in Australia that gives you a knight of hell. It's
• 1:32:25
  like the hunter spider or the huntsman or something. Yeah, not to be
• 1:32:29
  confused with the the the huntsmen in America. That is like basically the daddy
• 1:32:35
  long legger spider that like they can't do crap. They can't even bite you.
• 1:32:40
  Their little fangs won't pierce your skin. You can let those little guys
• 1:32:44
  crawl all over you and nothing will happen. But yeah, yeah, uh,
• 1:32:49
  and yeah, don't don't look up the bird spider, trust me,
• 1:32:57
  right, but we freak out over those cute little black jumping spiders that look
• 1:33:03
  like you know, they were grown in a box, or wolf spiders,
• 1:33:09
  Like a wolf spider can bite the shit out of you and you'll get some
• 1:33:12
  itchy red welts, but nothing else will happen unless you're allergic to spider bite.
• 1:33:16
  You know that that which I'm not oddly enough requitos. Yeah spiders,
• 1:33:24
  no, right, but we still freak the fuck out over that shit,
• 1:33:28
  Like we get all hebgb't and hair standing up, and I know that there
• 1:33:32
  are guys that are agnophobes too, but it's normal for women and guys get
• 1:33:38
  treated like, you know, what the fuck is wrong with you? Look
• 1:33:41
  how little it is? Yeah, yeah, so but anyway, I know
• 1:33:45
  I've gone off on a tangent. So we'll we'll watch the last minute,
• 1:33:50
  well less than a minute here, and then we'll be done with the video.
• 1:33:54
  See if we get any more chats. We didn't get any super chats
• 1:33:58
  or at this point we don't have and he paid rumble rants that I can
• 1:34:00
  see. I'll look again before closing out, just in case. And uh
• 1:34:06
  and then and so we may not have super chows to read. Yes,
• 1:34:12
  the Australian red back spider, Richard Beerre pointed out is related to the black
• 1:34:15
  Widow. Yeah those are scary too. Let's see play Really there we go
• 1:34:33
  so long, drawn out the process. It's the same, you know,
• 1:34:36
  the same formula all over again, just a lot of tender, loving care.
• 1:34:41
  Philip is a happier boy. For him, for his parents, for
• 1:34:47
  the school. There is a long way to go, but life is long
• 1:34:51
  and has many paths. He and his parents and his schools, we'll probably
• 1:34:58
  find the right one. We don't have that much left so we're not gonna
• 1:35:06
  play the credits and stuff obviously, but that that interesting thing, nurturing.
• 1:35:13
  She mentioned nurturing, like, oh, nurturing, as if it was a
• 1:35:21
  foreign concept to her. Yes, yes, and we discovered this thing.
• 1:35:28
  It's called nurturing. It's like, oh wow, what a what a novel
• 1:35:33
  concept. Nurture your boys, nurture their masculinity, and don't condemn it,
• 1:35:41
  don't treat it like a an affront to society. But but yeah, nurture.
• 1:35:48
  How strange? I wonder, I wonder, And I'm just going off
• 1:35:55
  on my own speculation here, but so, you know how she has this
• 1:36:00
  this animosity with her husband, right, Yeah, you know how they say,
• 1:36:05
  like single mothers when they look at their children, they kind of resent
• 1:36:11
  them because they look like the father that left or whatever. I think maybe
• 1:36:15
  something like that is going on here, right, because she's left to deal
• 1:36:20
  with this little boy who is a replica of his father. You know,
• 1:36:26
  she can't get anywhere with his father. She can't scream and argue her way
• 1:36:31
  into compliance with this little boy. Yeah, and that's I think that was
• 1:36:39
  I don't know if that even clicked in her brain, but really, I
• 1:36:45
  don't think it did because you see in the end how she realized that it
• 1:36:49
  was much easier for her to be nurturing and more caring with the child.
• 1:36:55
  But she still has the same problems with the husband, the same conflict.
• 1:37:00
  So this is a this is an issue that it's probably we like to blame
• 1:37:06
  a lot of things on feminism, but I think it's this, This is
• 1:37:09
  female nature. Women take an adversarial role against uh people that that they have
• 1:37:18
  to to compromise with in order to get things done. And it's when it
• 1:37:25
  comes to your life partnership and and you know, you bring a guy into
• 1:37:30
  your family by marandam he's now a family member, he's now a part of
• 1:37:34
  your everyday life. He becomes your biggest adversary. I don't I don't understand
• 1:37:40
  it, but I recognize that that is common practice. And like it's it's
• 1:37:46
  one thing, you know, we ras each other. There's there's masculine and
• 1:37:50
  feminine ways of doing things, and there's masculine and feminine ways of experiencing observing
• 1:37:57
  things and everything, and you know, like it's it's normal and healthy and
• 1:38:00
  fine for men and women to look at the way that the opposite sex does
• 1:38:06
  things and be like, why would you do it that way when it's so
• 1:38:11
  much easier to do it this way? What the hell is wrong with you?
• 1:38:15
  We're gonna laugh at that, you know, as long as they're not
• 1:38:17
  being mean about it or demanding that, you know, you stop doing things
• 1:38:25
  in a gendered way, like when it comes to you know, if it's
• 1:38:30
  not harming anybody, it's perfectly fine for men, for instance, to not
• 1:38:36
  care as much about whether you have a stray hair that sticks out to the
• 1:38:45
  side when they're talking to you as you care about having a stray hair that
• 1:38:49
  stick sticks out to the side when they're talking. This is the worst thing
• 1:38:53
  that has ever happened to me. I'm so embarrassed. Oh my god,
• 1:38:55
  I have brocoli on my tooth. Why are you not telling me? Why
• 1:38:59
  are you looking at it? My life is over right. Yeah, it's
• 1:39:03
  perfectly fine for guys to be more okay with some some risk in their life.
• 1:39:10
  Like I remember being a kid and my brother would pick up bugs that
• 1:39:14
  I wouldn't go near. You know, if I knew a bug didn't bite,
• 1:39:18
  I was fine picking it up. Like I picked up crickets all the
• 1:39:20
  time. I used to use them to go fishing. But my brother would
• 1:39:26
  pick up ants like I'm not touching that. It's gonna pinch me, and
• 1:39:30
  and it doesn't hurt, but it's discombobulating, it's uncomfortable, and I don't
• 1:39:34
  like it and I don't want to touch it. Right, this thing might
• 1:39:38
  sting me. Okay, no, I'm going nowhere near it, right,
• 1:39:42
  you know that kind of thing. We both had our different ways of no
• 1:39:47
  fear, and I saw that with the kids too. That's fine, you
• 1:39:51
  know, And it's fine for for girls to laugh at look how dirty you
• 1:39:56
  got doing that thing? Wow, Like, doesn't that bother you at all?
• 1:40:00
  And it's fine for boys to be like, look how prissy you are
• 1:40:03
  about it and laugh at that, you know, hahaha. Girls can't even
• 1:40:09
  get things done because they won't stick their hands in the dirt without gardening gloves.
• 1:40:13
  That's fine, Like those are okay, and that's that's not But today
• 1:40:23
  we're adversarial about it. We hate each other over it. It's a social
• 1:40:28
  it's a it's a microaggression. Yeah, how there you be dirty? Don't
• 1:40:33
  you respect women? Like I'm sorry, I just got off work and haven't
• 1:40:38
  got home to take a shower yet. You know, just stopped at the
• 1:40:41
  convenience store to pick up a gallon of milk, you know, or sorry,
• 1:40:46
  lady, I'm homeless. I can't wash off the cigarette smell. Yeah,
• 1:40:51
  yeah, but but yeah. A Nova fan twenty one gave us a
• 1:40:59
  rumble for a dollar and said, if you haven't already, can you cover
• 1:41:01
  more articles and talks where mom women say holding women accountable is misogyny. You
• 1:41:09
  know, here's this sad part about that. Right, they don't overtly make
• 1:41:15
  that statement verbatim. What they do is respond to ways in which women are
• 1:41:21
  held accountable for making stupid choices or doing bad things to other people that are
• 1:41:29
  harmful to them or hurtful to them by calling you a misogynist for criticizing their
• 1:41:34
  behavior and for instance, slut shaming. Oh, you're a misogynist. You're
• 1:41:43
  slut slut shaming this girl for cheating on her boyfriend. No, we're criticizing
• 1:41:51
  the betrayal like a relationship involves loyalty. You know. Don't don't call women
• 1:42:00
  bitches. That's uh, that's sexist. Well, don't act like one.
• 1:42:05
  I I right before I set up the show today, I had an argument
• 1:42:13
  with a dip shit which is that's not unusual, Like I do that all
• 1:42:16
  the time on Twitter. My my whole Twitter feed is is uh either it's
• 1:42:24
  me saying things and then ending up arguing with dip shits over their reaction,
• 1:42:30
  right, and uh that that's you know, I pointed out something that I've
• 1:42:35
  I've talked about this the the basis you know, for for the Christian faith
• 1:42:42
  is love God with everything and love your neighbor as you love yourself, and
• 1:42:48
  everything else that you're taught in the Christian faith hinges on those two things.
• 1:42:54
  We know this because Jesus said so, Like, that's my belief system.
• 1:42:59
  That's that's how I respond to everything. I've talked about tough love and getting
• 1:43:03
  gruff and angry with people and how you know, part of that love is
• 1:43:09
  you. You fall down and you're forgiven and you it's your job to get
• 1:43:15
  back up and try to do better the next time. Right, And you're
• 1:43:19
  supposed to love everybody. What's easy to love men because men do bring respectability
• 1:43:28
  to the relationship between the sectors. Men bring loyalty and honor, and you
• 1:43:34
  know, they bring compassion, camaraderie, kindness. I guess you could say
• 1:43:41
  men are okay right, but women A lot of times women bring nothing,
• 1:43:50
  you know, or they bring animosity, they bring pain and suffering. It
• 1:43:58
  makes it it can be a lot more work to love women and to respond
• 1:44:03
  to women's normal, common attitudes and behaviors in a manner that is guided by
• 1:44:12
  love, even when you're angry as opposed to men because of that, and
• 1:44:17
  men make their being about their impact on society, and women make their being
• 1:44:24
  about society's impact on them. And so I pointed out, you know,
• 1:44:31
  and historically women have done better than they are doing right now. That's another
• 1:44:36
  thing that people don't understand. But I pointed out, you know, men,
• 1:44:42
  men deserve to be loved, but right now, women on the whole
• 1:44:45
  don't. In response to the question what controversial opinion has you? Like this,
• 1:44:48
  and it's that screenshot of the guy with all the swords pointed at him
• 1:44:53
  from the movie about the guys looking for El Dorado. I think the movie
• 1:44:58
  was called El Dorado like Disney or something thing cartoon And this chick uh kneeds
• 1:45:04
  your reacted. God offended kept calling me bro of course, but she needs
• 1:45:14
  your reacted and it was it was very upsetting for her to hear that,
• 1:45:20
  right, But she didn't react by wanting to find out why. I thought
• 1:45:25
  that. She only reacted with condemnation, anger, and an adversarial response,
• 1:45:30
  and she never did turn away from that, thereby proving your original Women make
• 1:45:38
  themselves very hard to love. Yeah, yeah, so and it's sad like
• 1:45:46
  so that's I guess my my answer. Uh, you know, like you
• 1:45:51
  you want to change things for women, women make themselves very hard to love.
• 1:45:58
  You can't talk about holding women accountable because you can't even talk about that
• 1:46:02
  without a woman, I mean getting upset. I forget about love. I
• 1:46:06
  don't even like a lot of these bitch that's fun. There's just not very
• 1:46:16
  many redeemable qualities in a large percentage of them, and the numbers are just
• 1:46:26
  increasing. And you know, I you know, women mature at their own
• 1:46:31
  speed, right, you know, I don't know. Maybe maybe some of
• 1:46:36
  them are seeing what this whole culture is turning into and saying to themselves,
• 1:46:44
  you know, I don't want to be like that. Hopefully it's more than
• 1:46:48
  you know, the paltry number that I'm thinking of in my head. But
• 1:46:57
  you know, why would you even want to deal with them? God?
• 1:47:04
  They just I mean, they have nothing to talk about. I swear to
• 1:47:12
  God, try having a conversation with them about anything that doesn't directly involve themselves
• 1:47:19
  or entertainment or I don't know, you know, fashion, because I consider
• 1:47:32
  these conversations form of you take a disruptor to the person's current uh attitude,
• 1:47:45
  believe suffering, personality, flaws, whatever, a disruptor that that kind of
• 1:47:53
  works. Like the ball in the game Breakout. You remember Breakout where you
• 1:47:57
  would have to hit the little bricks, uh, you know, had the
• 1:48:00
  little use the little paddle wheel controller for the for the attar. This was
• 1:48:06
  an Atari twenty six hundred game, right, And you have this little line
• 1:48:14
  across the bottom of the screen that represents your paddle like a ping pong paddle,
• 1:48:20
  and there's a little square on the screen that represents a ball. And
• 1:48:24
  it was like pong, except it was you against a wall of pixelated bricks
• 1:48:32
  and you would hit the ball. The ball would be moving on its own.
• 1:48:36
  You would direct the paddle to where the ball would impact it, and
• 1:48:41
  it would bounce off and go in a direction and it would bounce this.
• 1:48:44
  Yeah, Commodore sixty four had it too. Yes, old school Loo got
• 1:48:49
  it. Yeah. So there are a lot of people that do do remember
• 1:48:53
  that right, And it didn't just blow up, you know, the brick
• 1:48:59
  wall like a lot of modern games. You know, you throw a bomb
• 1:49:00
  and boom, and then but it would hit a brick and it would take
• 1:49:04
  a brick out, or on a really high difficulty level, it would hit
• 1:49:08
  a brick and it would change the color and then it would hit it a
• 1:49:11
  second time to take it out. And there were different ways you could do.
• 1:49:15
  Like with the Atari version, if you managed to manipulate it right,
• 1:49:20
  you could hold the paddle still and the ball would just bounce straight up and
• 1:49:26
  down and go all the way through to the top of the screen, and
• 1:49:29
  then it would it would create a new dynamic for how it bounced around.
• 1:49:33
  But if you bounce it at an angle, it could bounce off the walls,
• 1:49:38
  hit the bricks, bounce off of that, go back to the walls,
• 1:49:40
  and bounce around. And like if you got it in the top of
• 1:49:44
  the screen above the bricks, it would just go ballistic, bouncing up and
• 1:49:47
  down and take it out bricks until it made a bigger space and then it
• 1:49:50
  would slow down and everything. So it would bounce around and it would change
• 1:49:56
  the environment that it was in there, right, that kind of disruptor.
• 1:50:01
  It gets, it gets, you know, some things change the way they
• 1:50:05
  look, some things disappear, and it and it bounces around in there,
• 1:50:10
  but it won't go away. You have to move the paddle out of the
• 1:50:15
  way or turn the game off to end the game. And that's that's what
• 1:50:21
  I'm trying to do with thoughts, right. Get a disruptor like that,
• 1:50:26
  an idea, a concept, a question into the other person's mind that is
• 1:50:34
  so dramatic in the effect it has, whether it makes them very happy or
• 1:50:42
  very angry, that it becomes a nagging question or a nagging doubt, or
• 1:50:47
  a nagging sore spot, like the sore spot you get if you have a
• 1:50:53
  toothache where you keep putting your tongue in that spot to feel the tooth,
• 1:50:57
  the fever around the tooth and everything. And that's what's going to happen with
• 1:51:01
  the thoughts that the the twits that I deal with on Twitter address they may
• 1:51:09
  block, they may you know, have temper tantrums, they may argue,
• 1:51:13
  they may say all kinds of things. But the questions that I raise and
• 1:51:17
  the ideas that I communicate, I don't expect them to ever come back and
• 1:51:23
  say gosh, you're right, I was wrong, or change their mind in
• 1:51:27
  the moment or anything like that. It's just about making them consider by making
• 1:51:35
  the idea, the concept, the question, the criticism too hard to ignore.
• 1:51:42
  And sometimes you got to piss people off to do that. Yeah.
• 1:51:46
  Yeah, And I think a lot of this is happening right now because everybody
• 1:51:53
  is talking about the manisphere and women and you know, mail and female relationships.
• 1:52:00
  It just seems to be the really big hot topic. And I think
• 1:52:04
  a lot of people are waking up and you know, men are men are
• 1:52:09
  actually awakening to this thing. And I think a lot of men already knew
• 1:52:15
  this, you know, but they just sat there silently like yeah, you
• 1:52:18
  know, and well, if nobody else is gonna say it, I'm not
• 1:52:21
  gonna stick my neck out, you know. And now it's just come to
• 1:52:26
  the point where this there's like this crescendo, you know. And so all
• 1:52:31
  all of these hoes who have priced themselves out of the game, it's gonna
• 1:52:36
  be a cold winter because men are not putting up with this shit anymore,
• 1:52:41
  you know. We we they they are seeing through all of this, okay,
• 1:52:46
  and they're not willing to be your fucking pay pigs anymore. You're gonna
• 1:52:50
  have to grow a personality, grow the fuck up, and deal with the
• 1:52:56
  reality of your life and the consequences of the decisions that you made. Yeah,
• 1:53:03
  we're done. We're done. I'm done. I don't want to pay
• 1:53:08
  for your ship. I'm sick, good lord, if I I can't screaming
• 1:53:14
  up about how I'm tired of paying my fucking taxes. My taxes are fucking
• 1:53:17
  going to all your fucking bullshit subsidizing these stupid choices that you make. I
• 1:53:25
  am done with it. Yeah, well, and it's it's very much,
• 1:53:30
  you know, I think I likened it on Tuesday, and I'll do it
• 1:53:32
  again. To cutting off the financing of an addict by a family member,
• 1:53:39
  right, you love your family member. You don't want your family member to
• 1:53:43
  be taken advantage of and forced to use their income to, you know,
• 1:53:47
  for this other person's purposes, to the detriment of them being able to take
• 1:53:51
  care of themselves and after their needs. Right, And you don't want the
• 1:53:56
  addict to die in a puddle of their own vibe or if they're you know,
• 1:54:02
  addicted to something non chemical that's harming them. You don't want them to
• 1:54:08
  suffer the consequences of that either, right, you want to make it hard
• 1:54:11
  for them to indulge in a way that is damaging to themselves, so that
• 1:54:16
  the pathway to not indulging and not self harming becomes easier than the pathway to
• 1:54:26
  indulging in self harming. And with women, you know, women are indulging
• 1:54:33
  in a lack of accountability in a way that hurts everybody, including themselves.
• 1:54:43
  So if you love both sexes, if you love men, obviously you don't
• 1:54:46
  want men to be exploited. You don't want men to be mistreated. You
• 1:54:50
  don't want men to be lied to, scammed, defrauded, depressed, angry,
• 1:54:59
  sad, lonely. You don't want that for men. But you also
• 1:55:02
  don't want women to fail in life. If you love women, you don't
• 1:55:06
  want them to stay on the bottom rung of the success ladder in their areas
• 1:55:15
  of interest because they don't have the accountability to lift themselves up that ladder exactly.
• 1:55:25
  And you know, love, love is not just being nice and doing
• 1:55:28
  nice things for someone. Love is also being critical of them, you know,
• 1:55:33
  criticizing them and telling them when they're doing telling somebody when they're doing the
• 1:55:39
  wrong thing. You disagree, you know, but women are just so accustomed
• 1:55:54
  to being told that everything that they want is the right thing, and oh
• 1:55:59
  no, it's your fault, your fault. But that's not the case.
• 1:56:03
  That starts with women telling themselves that too. Well, yeah, absolutely,
• 1:56:10
  you know. You know, I was talking about this yesterday with Peter Wright.
• 1:56:13
  Actually so I made a post at first in response to a conversation that
• 1:56:17
  the conversation wasn't going anywhere the two people involved. You know, I really
• 1:56:23
  wasn't going to take a side in this conversation because it was pointless. But
• 1:56:27
  I pointed out in response to criticism of women as a population that because like
• 1:56:33
  this conversation was basically, well, all women are like that, Well,
• 1:56:35
  no, some women aren't like that. You know, it doesn't matter if
• 1:56:39
  some women aren't like that, And it doesn't matter if somebody says all women
• 1:56:43
  are like that. If not like that, he's not talking about you,
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  right, right, But in any case, that's that's that's the way I
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  feel about it. Like I when I hear guys, you know, saying
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  all women are liars, I don't take it personally because everybody has been through
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  an ordeal caused by a woman's lie. I don't know anybody that hasn't experienced
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  that, right, and it's it's bad enough that it's dangerous. So that's
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  a bigger problem than how I feel about him using the word all instead of
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  saying nearly all. It doesn't matter. He's not talking about me, but
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  I said it is a sad and sad but undeniable truth. And this is
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  this is when one of the roots I think of the accountability gap, by
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  the way behind everything else in gender issues, there lies a gender gap in
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  personal accountability, both in the individual's grasp of it and the social pressure one
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  faces to demonstrate it. The overwhelming majority of girls start with less natural risk
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  taking tendency than boys and can't equal their starting point for learning account of because
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  to be accountable means be willing to endure consequences when you're wrong. They grow
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  up you even sometimes, by the way, have to endure consequences when you're
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  right. You make the right choice. I want to buy this dress,
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  but I need all of the money that's available to me right now to pay
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  the rent. The consequence of choosing the right thing is that you don't get
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  the dress, and you don't have any extra money. Obviously, it's not
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  as bad as the consequence of choosing the wrong thing, because you're not facing
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  the consequence that comes with not paying your rent. You're not getting evicted,
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  your landlord's not mad at you, and so on. Right, but girls
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  have a tendency to feel like they shouldn't face consequences when they make decisions.
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  Right, they grow up with their their sense of personal accountability being crippled by
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  social norms, which may be in response to the original handicap there or maybe
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  for other reasons. Uniquely shield girls and women almost always at the expense of
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  boys and men for many adverse consequences of their choices, whether the choice itself
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  was advisable or inadvisable. As a result, the overwhelming majority of women are
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  woefully inept at evaluating their choices in an accountable manner and taking responsibility for their
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  effect on themselves, much less others. In adulthood, most women reach the
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  level in adulthood. Most women reach the level of accountability boys reach at about
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  fourteen years old, right before they're expected to start laboring to finance their lifestyle
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  choices and their personal relationship interests, Way before they are expected to finance their
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  own living expenses. Many women never mature beyond that point. This is why
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  alimony and child support exist. If all or even most women matured beyond that
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  point, they'd be ashamed to break up their committe marriage, and even if
• 2:00:01
  they couldn't prevent the breakup, they'd be ashamed to accept those payoffs. And
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  when I was talking to Peter Wright about the responses to this post, it
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  occurred to me, you know it, it just hit me because the responses
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  to the post between men and women were kind of different. And I will
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  admit I got a little impatient with with women lately because I've been lacking sleep
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  lately, you know, like I been dealing with some medical issues. So
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  but I but I pointed out that probably that risk aversion is probably the underlying,
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  the main underlying fuel for the accountability gap. I think like there's there's
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  a lot of social things that have broadened, widened, fueled, you know,
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  whatever, the accountability gap. There's a lot of things that we've done.
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  Coviture, for instance, was kind of men's reaction to women's lack of
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  accountability, and they reacted by taking more responsibility. And as a result of
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  that, responsibility. They had restrictions and obligations that women had to deal with
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  in order to facilitate men meeting those responsibilities. That's fine, if you're not
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  going to be accountable, will be accountable, but you have to get out
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  of our way. Stop hindering our accountability. Right, that's that's that.
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  Uh oh, that's what's I just I just found out, guys, what
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  has been slowing down my computer this whole fucking time? Oh h my Google
• 2:01:43
  account. Like my little icon for my Google account. Right next to my
• 2:01:47
  icon, it usually you know, tells whether I'm signed in or not.
• 2:01:51
  Now it says finish update. Fuckers. Oh you're using the computer now to
• 2:01:58
  do things? Yes, it's been on for three hours, but we're gonna
• 2:02:00
  do the update right now, fucking Google. Okay, you're gonna have to
• 2:02:06
  start using Brave on that computer too. Well, Brave does the same damn
• 2:02:12
  thing. But yeah, I pointed out, for instance, and in the
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  discussion, you know, where where is it? I'm like actually going through
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  it right now. Coverture doctrine was probably based on the accountability gap and what
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  I just described, And there was probably originally that small gap, you know,
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  even even before coverture. Even before all the legal changes in everything,
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  there was that small gap because women have a tendency the thing that I remember
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  pointing out, I don't I don't need to remember how I worded it,
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  But because women are more risk averse than men, and because they have a
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  natural tendency to be more skittish about risk and to be a little more neurotic
• 2:03:08
  about consequences, women have a tendency to gloss things over in their mind.
• 2:03:15
  They will convince themselves that their actions, if they do the right thing,
• 2:03:23
  that there shouldn't be any consequences for it. That should fix everything. Like
• 2:03:27
  you do something ethical or moral or wise, that should eliminate whatever adversity you
• 2:03:34
  might face as a result, when in fact you can make very advantageous purchases
• 2:03:43
  or moral choices, ethical choices, and so on, there are still consequences.
• 2:03:48
  When you cut off the funding for the addict's addiction, the addict is
• 2:03:57
  going to be angry with you. That is a consequence. The addict even
• 2:04:00
  hate you for a while, might even hate you for twenty years. But
• 2:04:08
  whatever good comes out of it, you know, them getting that opportunity to
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  say, well, all right, I'm gonna try to rehabilitate so that I
• 2:04:16
  don't suffer because of this because I don't feel like I have a choice.
• 2:04:21
  Well, you know, they still have a choice. If they do that,
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  it's worth it. It's worth them being angry. You have to decide
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  that kind of thing, right when you pay your rent instead of buying the
• 2:04:32
  thing you want it, it's worth it because now you're not going to be
• 2:04:36
  homeless next month. And so women, men make themselves comfortable with taking on
• 2:04:45
  consequences like that. Women pretend they don't exist right. Women's part of women's
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  risk aversion manifests and convincing themselves that the right thing will have fewer consequences,
• 2:05:03
  and then women turn around to demand society make that true. So, for
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  instance, if a woman looks at a situation, she doesn't think about risking
• 2:05:16
  conception as an unwise choice. She doesn't think about risking conception when when she's
• 2:05:29
  with a guy that she doesn't plan on staying with, doesn't plan on marrying,
• 2:05:32
  isn't going to raise a child with him, you know that kind of
• 2:05:35
  thing. She doesn't think of that necessarily as a wrong choice, but she
• 2:05:39
  recognizes killing the baby as a wrong choice. For instance, says Okay,
• 2:05:44
  that's murder. I'm not going to do that. Well, then she's going
• 2:05:48
  to look at the financial consequences as something that's inflicted on her by society,
• 2:05:55
  not a natural consequence of taking on their responsibility raising a child. But she'll
• 2:06:00
  look at the pain and suffering that she might go through if she parts with
• 2:06:05
  that child so that the child can be raised by somebody that's better financially set
• 2:06:11
  and has a more stable environment to provide love and nurturing for the child.
• 2:06:15
  Like, that's something that it's society inflicted on her too, and she's not
• 2:06:21
  going to look at it as a natural consequence and something that she should have
• 2:06:26
  to be prepared to, you know, weather and acclimate herself to endure process,
• 2:06:38
  suck it up, and drive on from So that's the like, if
• 2:06:44
  you look at the accountability gap and you go, all right, what's underneath?
• 2:06:48
  What's the cause of the accountability gap? Like I'm not sure that we've
• 2:06:54
  identified everything, but on that list, and I would say probably pretty eye
• 2:07:00
  up on that list is that risk aversion and that psychological trick women play on
• 2:07:05
  themselves in order to be comfortable making decisions in a world in which they are
• 2:07:12
  overly risk averse, if that makes sense. Yeah, so absolutely, And
• 2:07:24
  that sort of dovetails back into this situation where the woman in this video that
• 2:07:32
  we just watched was afraid to connect with her child in a meaningful way.
• 2:07:41
  Right. She handled him like a problem instead of a person, and she
• 2:07:46
  didn't want to risk teaching him the wrong thing, so she tried not to
• 2:07:51
  teach him anything. She didn't want to risk being wrong about stuff, so
• 2:07:59
  she was authoritarian, and she didn't want to risk him mimicking behaviors that she
• 2:08:07
  thought was dysfunctional or increasing his temper, so she tried to present pretend she
• 2:08:11
  didn't have one and she didn't teach him how to handle it. Mm hm
• 2:08:18
  exactly. And then when the child had a poor outcome from those risk averse
• 2:08:26
  behaviors of hers, she rewrote things in her mind that it was somebody else's
• 2:08:31
  fault. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, women think accountability
• 2:08:37
  as a mathematical skill. Yeah, and as we all know, math is
• 2:08:45
  hard. Yes, Oh my gosh, So there you go. I don't
• 2:08:52
  have any other super chats. Let me see, I don't have any o
• 2:09:00
  they're super chows. And let's look at I lost rumble there it is okay,
• 2:09:11
  don't have any other rumble rants, So that's it. So I think
• 2:09:20
  we're gonna call it. It's ten after nine. That's not too bad.
• 2:09:24
  About an hour and a half. Not too bad. Took us an hour
• 2:09:28
  and a half to go through six minutes and then talk about it. That's
• 2:09:33
  exactly is stared. Thanks for sticking out this odd discussion, long video,
• 2:09:41
  sort of twenty six minute video total. All right, Thanks everybody for listening,
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  and especially to all of the story time with Hannah parts of it,
• 2:09:52
  because I can't look at somebody else's parenting and childhood without thinking about my own
• 2:09:58
  comparing, you know, that's sort of how I explain things. And thanks
• 2:10:03
  to everybody who works in the background to make HBr talk happen. Good idol,