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Mega Edition: Jeffrey Epstein And The Four Females Who Made His Operation Possible (Part 1-2) (5/8/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: Process today by diving into the article that Tara Paulmery
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put out in Politico a few days ago. Now, this
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is a very long article and it goes into detail
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about Jeffrey Epstein and how his whole entire operation basically
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could not have been what it was without the help
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of the females around him. And when you think about
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sex trafficking, obviously you automatically think about these scuzzbag dudes
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that are engaged in it, right, That's the obvious choice.
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Those are the obvious people to take a look at,
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and more times than not, it is some scuzbag dude
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that's running the show. Well, according to reports, roughly thirty
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nine percent of people involved in human trafficking are women,
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And it just seems more dastardly to me, more draconian
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when a woman is involved in something like this, because
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what happens is these women build trust with these girls
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or other women, they bring them into the nexus, and
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before you know it, you're caught up in the web.
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And it's a lot easier for these girls, these women
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to trust somebody prim and polished, like say Gilay and Maxwell,
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as opposed to some brutish ass dude who isn't educated
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or schooled or anything like that, So you get this
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false sense of security with somebody like Elaine Maxwell, or
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with a woman in general, right, and these women in
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turn use that trust to end up bringing these girls
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into the fold, and from there it becomes the nightmare
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that we have seen time and time again reported on
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by these survivors. So, Tara Palmery did a fantastic job
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with this piece. It's super long, so we're gonna do
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it in a couple of parts. But I've been meaning
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to get to this the last few days, and I
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told you last weekend that we were going to get
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to it, but I wanted to make sure that I
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had the time to sit down and really hammer it out.
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Like I said, it's pretty extensive, and instead of doing
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it all as one long episode, I'm gonna break it
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down into a few parts here. So with that said,
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let's jump in to this article by Tara Palmery over
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at the Politico headline, The Women who enabled Jeffrey Epstein.
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It was a CHRISP. Gray day in January twenty twenty
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when I stepped out of my uber onto what looked
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like industrial wasteland, a con crete scape dotted with smokestacks
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and graffitied shipping containers. I pushed through the glass door
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of an old brick factory and found myself inside the
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pristine walls of the Manna Contemporary Arts Center. In the lobby,
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I waited until a petite woman with jet black hair
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walked in with her her Yorkshire terrier, Mosey. This was
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Rena Oh, and she had asked me to meet her
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in the studio space in Jersey City, New Jersey, where
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she paints and sculpts now. Rena Oh was allegedly one
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of Jeffrey Epstein's recruiters. You have Virginia who came out
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and spoke on Rena Oh, and you also have Margique
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also who came out and spoke about Rena and her
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involvement with Jeffrey Epstein. Now, Rena has her side of
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the story as well, right saying that she was a
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victim that the other thing, and certainly trying to set
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it up as somebody who was being abused by Epstein
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and that is why she was engaging in abuse as well. Now,
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if I believe that story, well that's a completely different conversation.
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But I'll just leave it to you like this, I
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believe what Virginia has to say, and until some evidence
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is provided to show me differently, I'm gonna go with
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what we have compiled throughout the years here, and I'm
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gonna have to say that Virginia and the survivors, their
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story has done nothing but ring true this whole entire time.
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So when you have people like Rina Oh who try
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and act like that the they weren't part of Jeffrey
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Epstein's operation, it takes a lot of evidence to prove
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that right. A recurring subject of her art is Jeffrey Epstein,
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the well connected financier pedophile who died in a New
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York jail cell in twenty nineteen, allegedly while being held
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on sex trafficking charges. O's studio featured an oil painting
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of Epstein's friend, the Joe Exotic of the Windsor Family
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aka Prince Andrew as Bacchus, the God of Wine, and
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next to it a painting of a nude Guilain Maxwell,
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who has been charged with recruiting underage girls for Epstein,
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holding the forbidden fruit in what O calls the Garden
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of Sin. The tone of her paintings was neither critical
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nor celebratory, just strange. And I could definitely see that
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this arena Oh lady definitely comes off as rather odd.
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From the articles that I've read and from the quotes
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that we've seen from her, she certainly strikes me as
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quite the odd duck, no doubt about it. And you know,
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with what Virginia had to say and others, it's hard
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right to believe anything that comes out of these people's mouths.
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Oh's fascination with Epstein is not abstract. She knew him
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personally as someone who was in a romantic relationship with
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Epstein that came to include finding other women for him
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to meet. Although Oh had never spoken to the press
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or to the authorities, she was willing to share her
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story with me for a podcast I was working on
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about Epstein called Broken Seeking Justice. I wanted to understand
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what it was like to be part of his circle
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and why she had done it. Now again, Tara Paul
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Mary is the one who really brought this stuff to
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the forefront here, And of all the people who have
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jumped into the sphere with podcasts and stories and latched
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their names onto the case and all of that stuff,
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Tara Paul Mary has been one of the best and
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the brightest. In my opinion, she has done a fantastic
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job covering this story, digging deeper and unearthing things that
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other folks weren't willing to talk about or weren't able
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to find. And the way she brought it all together
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on her podcast Broken was absolutely phenomenal. So I think
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that throughout this whole case, Tara Paul Mary has been
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an absolute asset and this situation with her unearthing the
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Arena Oh portion of this just more fantastic work by
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her and her team. Oh Now forty two told me
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she had met Epstein in two thousand. She was twenty
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one at the time and living in the New York
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suburbs with her parents when a friend introduced her to
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a man who would become what O described as a rich,
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older boyfriend. And again, I don't know if I buy
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the whole boyfriend thing right. Jeffrey Epstein had side pieces.
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Jeffrey Epstein had what he would consider playthings. Rina Oh,
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as his girlfriend, h I'm not buying it. I found
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myself a really great art patron. Who's going to buy
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artwork from me? She initially thought. Epstein even offered to
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pay for her to attend classes at the School of
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Visual Arts in Manhattan, and for a time secured a
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studio for her in Soho. Now, I'm not saying she
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didn't have anything to do with Epstein. We know that's
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the case. But again, everybody the hero in their own story, right,
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So as far as calling her his girlfriend, probably a
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stretch in my opinion, could be wrong. Right, maybe she was,
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but Epstein is not that kind of guy. He wanted
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to have a bunch of girls around him, right, a
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bunch of younger ladies around him, and he certainly had
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a type. But it soon became clear Epstein wasn't just
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a boyfriend or a benefactor. The whole thing got really
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sketchy when he started asking me, are there any cute
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girls in your class that you can bring over here? Oh?
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Told me. Oh might have been creeped out, but she
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complied with the requests. She told me she introduced three
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young adult women to Epstein. Boy, isn't that nice? Isn't
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that fantastic? So no matter what, Rina, Oh, you brought
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three girls into Epstein's sphere. Okay, no matter how you
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want to spend that, no matter how you want to
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talk about that that's a fact. It's also a fact
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that you didn't go to the police after Epstein was
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arrested or anything like that. So the question becomes why not,
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Why wouldn't you come forward and speak on what you know?
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And that goes for all of these people that were
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in Epstein's sphere, Like we talk about all the time here,
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these people should be falling all over themselves to speak
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with the authorities. Two of Epstein's accusers, in fact, say
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Oh did more than that. Margique Chartouni, a friend whom
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Oh introduced to Epstein when she was twenty, told me
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she was sexually assaulted by both Oh and Epstein in
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her first and only encounter with him. Virginia Roberts, one
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of Epstein's most vocal survivors, who says she was recruited
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into Epstein's orbit by Maxwell, also accuses Oh of violence.
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So you have two very solid people right there, right,
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Virginia and Margie talking about how Oh was involved in
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this abuse with Epstein. So you have two very credible survivors,
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very credible witnesses, saying that she did this stuff, and
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the only thing going against what they have to say
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is what Oh says herself. So really, like, well, most
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of this case it comes down to who do you believe?
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Who do you think is more credible? For me rather
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obvious where I fall here. In a draft of a
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memoir filed as evidence in a defamation lawsuit, Roberts wrote
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that oh loved bondage, whipping, hitting, and cunning her sex
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partner with little sharp knives until they subdued to her
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punishment and agonizing pain. In an interview, Roberts showed me
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a scar on her upper thigh that she said came
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from one of these sex acts. She was seventeen at
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the time. So look, that is some straight up disturbing
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type of shit, right again, Whatever people want to do
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with consenting adults in their bedroom or in private, hey,
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that's not my business. If you want to go get
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yourself a weed whacker and you and your partner are
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into whacking each other in the stomach with it, hey,
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I don't give a shit. Do whatever you want, man,
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not my business. But when you're doing this to people
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who don't want it done to them, children, people under eighteen, hell, adults,
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even then, you and I, well we got a problem.
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We certainly have a problem in that case. And what
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occurred here with Epstein and allegedly this Rina lady is
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absolutely stomach turning. It's not bad enough, right that you
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have to sexually as somebody. It's not bad enough that
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you have to rape somebody. But no, now I'm going
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to torture you and abuse you by cutting you with
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a knife for a sharp object. What the hell is
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wrong with somebody who would want to do that? When
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I asked Roberts. When I asked about Robert's allegation, Oh
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said she had met Roberts, but she called the accusation
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a complete fabricated lie. As for the incident with Shartuni,
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Oh acknowledged that a sexual encounter took place, but in
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another interview after our Jersey City meeting, she told me
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she did not attack Shartuni. I'm sorry, I didn't know
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what was going to happen. If you had a bad experience,
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you know, you had a bad experience. But I was
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not abusive, Oh said. In later interviews, O blamed Epstein
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for manipulating her and said she believes Epstein abused her
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too in the same encounter with Chartuniultimately, this is going
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to be the excuse from a lot of these women
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who were involved with Epstein, Right, Oh, Well, I was
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being abused too. I was being abused too, So I
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abused in turn. That's not going to cut it for me, though.
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Once you're an adult, you're an adult. And if these
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women would have went to the police afterwards, then it
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would be this would be a whole different story. But
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they didn't. They kept it to themselves, they kept it secret.
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They didn't come forward to help other survivors. So, now,
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how can you expect anyone to trust what you have
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to say? Now that your back's up against the wall,
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now that you've been called out for your part in this,
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Now you want to play the victim. I'm sorry, but
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I don't think that's gonna work. Ultimately, Oh said the
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women she brought to Epstein wanted to meet him, and
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that she did not know what would happen once she
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introduced them. Still, Shartouni and Roberts say they believe Oh
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was complicit in the abuse they suffered, and I have
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to agree, right, I have to agree with that Oh
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was getting paid in a studio, all sorts of extras,
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all sorts of benefits, and her job was to bring
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girls to Jeffrey Epstein. Now, this is what Virginia and
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Margitque have alleged, and this is what the evidence has
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proven time and time again. So for Rena to attempt
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to set herself up as a victim here, I just
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don't see how that's going to pan out. Jeffrey Epstein
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has become a near universal villain in the public eye.
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Dozens of women, some of whom were as young as
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fourteen at the time, have accused him of molesting them
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over two decades, primarily in the nineteen nineties and two
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thousands in Florida, New York, and New Mexico, as well
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as on his private Caribbean island. A number of powerful men,
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from Britain's Prince Andrew to lawyer Alan I kept my
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underpants on Dershowitz, have been accused in court documents of
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having sex with a young woman Epstein introduced them to allegations.
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Both men deny. One male associate of Epstein's has been
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charged in France. That's Jean Luke Brunel. Other influential men
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were friends with Epstein or accepted his money. Yet after
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reporting on Epstein for months and speaking to associates like Oh,
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I came to a realization Beyond these men exists a
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group of women, possibly even larger, who helped keep Epstein's
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massive sex trafficking operation running for more than twenty years.
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And this is an ongoing theme with the Jeffrey Epstein organization.
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That's why it was a brilliant setup when we're talking
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in criminal terms. He had all of these women, these
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unassuming women, young, bit older, educated, working for him to
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bring all of this together and to have all of
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these girls brought to him, and it worked perfectly because
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nobody suspected that these women would be in on it.
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These other girls, the survivors trusted them and in turn
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had that trust smashed and shattered and their whole entire
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lives thrown off course because these women working with Jeffrey Epstein.
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Speaker 1: Law, brought them in to the viper's den. Dozens of
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these women worked for Epstein, formally or informally. If you
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think of this group as a pyramid, at the top
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sits Maxwell, a long time Epstein employee and confidant who
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now stands accused of recruiting miners for Epstein and sex
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trafficking a fourteen year old girl, charges she denies. Below
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her were women Epstein employed as assistants who allegedly scheduled
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and managed dozens of miners for Epstein to abuse. There
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were also women like Oh who brought friends to meet
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Epstein and received gifts or access to his wealth. Now, folks,
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how in the hell is that not a rico case?
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How can you tell me this is not a criminal
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conspiracy that is being run as an enterprise? One hundred percent,
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that's what it is. We know that Maxwell was the lieutenant,
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and underneath her was the core four, and then came
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all of these other ladies. That, my friends, is a
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criminal conspiracy that my friends warrants, rico charges for everybody involved.
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Somehow we have yet to see those charges materialize. Though
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these women aren't household names. Well to you, folks, they are,
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and to the rest of the world they should be.
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There is no reason why I have spent every single day,
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every single day, folks, since October one of twenty nineteen,
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talking about this story, while the legacy media is out
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there playing touch ass and engaging in tribalism. All these
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names should be household names, even for people following Epstein's story.
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But as survivors say, they were Keeter grooming and deceiving
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them and allowing Epstein to operate with impunity. In fact,
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most of Epstein's survivors were introduced to him through other women,
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according to the twelve survivors I've spoken with over the
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past year and a half, as well as dozens of
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allegations in court and in the media. Often survivors say
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it was the women around Epstein who tried to make
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them feel comfortable, as if what they were experiencing was
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normal or harmless. And you add to that that these
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girls came from backgrounds that were riddled with broken homes, problems, drugs, abuse,
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and they have no idea what the upper crust of
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society is or how they live. They think this shit
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is normal. Oh, this is how they live. Oh this
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is what rich people do. Meanwhile, it's not the case.
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And the working poor, all of us, compared to them,
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are nothing but chattel to be used, abused in disco
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tod that their will be it in some foreign war
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or if they're just deciding to abuse your children here
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in the States. Once Epstein began to face legal scrutiny,
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other women made it easier for him to rehabilitate himself
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and re emerge with his power and social cachet. Largely intact.
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Two women served as the lead prosecutors on his case
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when he was first facing charges in two thousand and six,
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and were closely involved in crafting his federal non prosecution agreement,
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plea deal, and lenient sentence. For those without deep knowledge
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of the case, Epstein's short incarceration of thirteen months in
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a county jail could be read as a signal that
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whatever crime he had committed, it wasn't that bad. After
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his release, a number of female socialites and professionals helped
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to welcome Epstein, by then a registered sex offender back
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into so called elite circles. His abuse then continued. Court
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documents assert because remember, folks, the only crime that you
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can commit when you're in one of these elite circles,
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these so called elite circles, is being broke. If you're poor,
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that is the worst crime you could possibly ever commit
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in the eyes of these people. You can molest people
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whatever you want, doesn't matter, as long as you have dough,
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as long as you can be seen as an asset financially.
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Besides that, you are nothing to these people. To point
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this out is not to excuse any of the men
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or prestigious institutions, universities, banks, funds that also help to
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protect Epstein, nor is it meant to hold women to
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a higher standard. But as a woman myself, I have
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been struck by the sheer number of women around Epstein,
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and many of the survivors I've spoken with say they
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feel especially betrayed by those who violated the unspoken rule
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that women protect other women, especially miners. And I always
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thought that that was an unspoken rule, right. I never ever, ever, ever,
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in my mind thought that women were this involved in
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human trafficking. But after all of the stuff that we
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have uncovered here, all of the articles we have covered,
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it's quite obvious now that women unfortunately play a central
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role in situations like this. This dynamic is becoming more
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complicated as survivors seek money from a compensation fund set
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up by Epstein's estate. The fund, designed by lawyers involved
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in other high profile cases of survivor compensation, including nine
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to eleven, has received more than one hundred and seventy
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five claims since last summer and paid out more than
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sixty seven million to an unspecified number of individuals. So
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we know that that the compensation fund has been paying
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out money. Now is it paying out a proper amount
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to these ladies. I don't know, right, nobody's come out
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and talked about it or anything like that. I'm sure
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they all have to sign non disclosures about the amount
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and stuff. But there's guaranteed a lot of these women
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who were working as recruiters for Epstein have themselves set
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up where they think they're going to get money from
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this compensation fund as they try and posit themselves as
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actual victims. It's a murky case, right, There's a lot
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of gray area here, and I'm certainly not qualified to
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hammer all of that out. Who's a victim who's not? Well,
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we'll have to leave that up to the courts. Right now.
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We can have our opinions for sure. And for me,
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the guideline that I go by is what have the
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actual survivor come out and said the people that they
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have named as people who have abused them? I believe
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them point blank period. So Rina, oh, and all of
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these other ladies who are now coming out and saying
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that they were also abused by Epstein or victimized by Epstein,
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where were you when the first arrest happened. Why didn't
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you come forward and tell the police and the investigators? Yeah,
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what's going on here? This is bad, even worse than
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you imagine because you were still benefiting. So again, if
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you were named by one of these survivors, then my
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opinion is that you're somebody that should be investigated. Among
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those who have sought or received restitution are women like Shartuni,
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who were purely victims of Epstein's predation, but all so
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women whose cases are more complex, those who both introduced
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other women to Epstein and who say they were abused
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by him. Epstein wielded his power wealth and age over
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women who are both victims and victimizers, and he worked
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to convert the former into the ladder, leaning on the
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women he lured in to find more adult and teenage
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women for him. And that's why the core four is
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the most important piece here in my opinion. If you
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bring the corps forward to justice, then they're certainly going
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to talk about the other people who are working underneath them, right.
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Nobody wants to go down alone when it comes to
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this kind of thing. And these women who were working
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with Jeffrey Epstein, these women who were working as recruiters
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for Jeffrey Epstein, and these women who are now trying
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to set themselves up as victims, well, the number one
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question should be where were you after the first arrest
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when Epstein could have really been put up to dry.
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Oh in fact, also has applied for restitution and is
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being represented by the same victims rights lawyer as SHARTOONI
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uh what again. A lot of these lawyers, folks are
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not good people. I'll say that till the cows come home.
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I am not a fan of lawyers in the in
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most respects. A lot of them are money grubbing and
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a lot of them don't really care about what's going on.
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They just want to get paid. Now, that's not all
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the lawyers in this case, right, but that's certainly something
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that I have noticed with lawyers just in general, and
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you see it in this case as well. In an
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email to Politico, Oh characterized Epstein's offers of tuition and
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the Soho studio as tools of his prolonged and repeated
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sexual abuse or let me play Devil's advocate. Those were
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payments for a job well done. She brought other girls in,
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and her payment was the school, was the housing and
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all of the extras that went along with it. So
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let's not act like she wasn't being paid for this
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while it was happening. Now, when we want a Monday
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morning quarterback it, she's gonna try and say that that
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was part of the abuse. All right, Well, look, I
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guess we'll let the courts figure that out. You don't
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know what's happening to you, Oh told me in one
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of our interviews. Epstein eventually dumped her after she refused
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to meet some of his friends for dinner. I was
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lied to and I was used, she said, and unlike
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many many people, I walked away. Oh give me a break.
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You walked away. According to you, you were dumped, whatever
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that means. Again, I don't believe that she was his
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girlfriend ever. Okay, a plaything, perhaps one of his low
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level associates. Definitely friend. Yeah, hard pressed to believe that.
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And to be honest with you, I'm hard pressed to
29:09
believe any of Rina Oh's story. That's my personal opinion.
29:13
She might be telling the truth, folks, but the old
29:17
gut is telling me differently, and so far in this case,
29:23
my spidy sense has been pretty much right on. So
29:28
I'll continue to go with my gut that's backed up
29:30
by the evidence, as opposed to what somebody who is
29:35
being pointed to as her recruiter has to say. Now again, folks, look,
29:40
just my opinion right, doesn't mean that you know, it's
29:45
the the tabernacle truth. Take my opinion, Like I always say,
29:50
in a buck fifty down to the corner store and
29:52
you can get yourself a coffee. More than three years
30:00
into the hashtag me too movement, the Epstein saga offers
30:04
an extreme and still evolving example of how complex questions
30:08
of responsibility can get in cases of sexual abuse. In
30:13
Epstein's world, women both were survivors of a hostile environment
30:18
and sometimes also reap the benefits of their association with
30:21
him or worse still, exactly how Jeffrey Epstein got away
30:26
with years of abuse remains an open question one many
30:30
of his survivors are still working to expose. Answering it
30:36
requires understanding the complicated motivations and actions of the many
30:41
women around him. Folks, that will complete Part one of
30:48
this very informative, very long piece by Tara Palmery. Now
30:55
part program, we're gonna jump right in to Part two
31:01
of The Women Who Enabled Jeffrey Epstein, an article authored
31:09
by Tara Paul Mary and put out by Politico. Lady
31:18
of the House. Of all of Epstein's female associates, Gilayne Maxwell,
31:24
a beguiling woman with a posh British accent, held the
31:28
most power. Her involvement with Epstein has been detailed in
31:33
media reports and court documents, including as part of a
31:37
defamation lawsuit Roberts filed against Maxwell in twenty fifteen, but
31:42
employees of Epstein's painted a fuller picture in interviews, and
31:48
this is where we get our profile of Gilayan Maxwell right,
31:53
not the nonsense that her legal team puts out of
31:56
her being a loving stepmother and and a cherished friend.
32:02
While she might be those things as well, the fact
32:06
of the matter is these girls who have come out
32:10
on records speaking about Gelaye Maxwell, Maxwell's involvement with Epstein
32:16
and Maxwell herself and her behavior, well they've all come
32:19
out and said the same thing that Maxwell was a
32:24
key component of what Jeffrey Epstein had going on. She
32:28
wasn't just some underling, She wasn't just some associate. She
32:36
was right there in a leadership role with Jeffrey Epstein
32:40
one A and one B and all of these assistants
32:45
and women and others who were involved in the grooming process.
32:50
They were all checking in with Gilay Maxwell. Do you
32:53
think she didn't earn the moniker lady of the house.
32:59
Everything went through her. She was the key cog folks,
33:04
you know, like when you want to go speak to
33:07
the president, you gotta get through the chief of staff.
33:11
That was Gylayn Maxwell's role. But at the same time,
33:15
not only the gatekeeper, but right alongside Jeffrey Epstein, hand
33:21
in hand. According to all of these girls helping with
33:24
the abuse, Epstein and Maxwell connected in nineteen ninety one,
33:31
after the mysterious death of Maxwell's father, media mogul Robert Maxwell.
33:37
At first they were just dating. See even that, I
33:41
don't even know if I believe that they were dating
33:44
at all. Folks, Now, they might have been right, there
33:47
might have been a bit of a spark between them
33:50
when they first met, But I've always held the opinion
33:54
that this was never something that just happened, you know, organically.
34:03
They were put together. Her pops had a specific reason
34:07
in mind, and they just you know, they complimented each
34:12
other well, and the oh, this is my girlfriend. That's
34:15
a good cover story, right, gets people on their heels,
34:22
you know, oh, this is a couple. They're not, you know,
34:25
engaging in any sort of weird behavior. So just another
34:30
level of the cover story. And of course when you
34:33
get to jeff Jeffrey Epstein's age, people start asking questions,
34:36
why you're a single dude, what's wrong with you? Why
34:38
don't you have kids? Where's your girlfriend, where's your wife?
34:42
You know, all of those kinds of questions. So it
34:46
would behoove Jeffrey Epstein to pala around with some some
34:51
well spoken, posh British lady on his arm, right, according
34:59
to court documents, excuse me in nineteen ninety nine, Epstein
35:03
began paying Maxwell to manage his various properties and staff.
35:08
According to court documents, Epstein had assaulted three girls prior
35:12
to nineteen ninety one, but survivors and staff say Maxwell's
35:17
entry into his life marked a turning point that before
35:21
long he was sexually abusing as many as three girls
35:25
per day. So we can't overlook the impact Gilain Maxwell
35:31
had on Jeffrey Epstein overall. We're not just talking about,
35:37
you know, his enhanced persona with Gilaan Maxwell with him,
35:42
but his predation increased exponentially this when she came into
35:49
his life. So should we just overlook that these people,
35:59
Jeff Epstein and Guilaine Maxwell were like the perfect duo
36:07
of arch criminals from a comic book. In February of
36:16
last year, I sat down with Roberts and Juana Lessi,
36:19
Epstein's former houseman who worked for him from nineteen ninety
36:23
one to two thousand and two. We met at Alessi's
36:26
home in Florida, a mini mansion on a golf course
36:30
just miles away from Epstein's own Palm Beach mansion. Must
36:34
be nice, All these people living in mansions and shit,
36:37
I don't know about where you folks are at, but
36:39
where I live here in Las Vegas, the housing market
36:42
is insane right now. You have people in bidding wars
36:46
and all sorts of other wild shit. So how does
36:49
the houseman end up living in some mansion? Good on him, right,
36:53
maybe some decent money management. But shit, maybe I'm in
36:56
the wrong business. The reunion between Roberts and Alessi seemed heartfelt.
37:03
They hadn't spoken since she was a teenager, and here
37:07
she was on his doorstep, a grown woman with three children.
37:11
They embraced and then stepped into his home, where they
37:14
sat on his tufted couch and recounted how Maxwell had
37:18
recruited her for Epstein. Now that must have been a
37:21
wild experience for Virginia, right, showing up want a Lessie's house,
37:27
somebody you haven't seen since you were a teenager, somebody
37:30
who was a part of your life when things were
37:35
pretty rough on you. And then to have everything come
37:39
full circle and be able to sit down with this
37:42
person again while you're there with Tara, Paul, Mary looking
37:47
for justice. It must have been almost a surreal experience
37:51
for her. Alessi, who had not previously spoken to the
37:57
media about Epstein told me that one in two thousand
38:01
he was driving Maxwell around Palm Beach, where Epstein owned
38:04
one of several homes, to find teenage girls a regular occurrence.
38:09
I mean, I don't even understand. Look, it's great that
38:14
Wana Lessie's talking now and stuff, but how in the
38:18
world do you think it's okay to drive around with
38:21
Gilean Maxwell and look to pick up young girls around
38:26
Palm Beach. There has to be a reckoning for people,
38:32
and these people like Juana Lessi, I would think, and
38:35
I would hope that the FBI are speaking with him.
38:41
But it just goes to show you how many people
38:44
were in Jeffrey Epstein's atmosphere. How many people let this
38:48
stuff occur because they feared him for whatever reason, they
38:52
feared their reprisals or more sinister. Some of these people
38:57
were just fellow travelers, folks. Maxwell spotted the sixteen year
39:05
old Roberts from the street at former President Donald Trump's
39:08
beach club mar A Lago, where Roberts worked at the SPA,
39:12
and demanded that Alessi pull over. He waited in the convertible,
39:16
sweating while Maxwell went into the club and persuaded Roberts
39:20
to work at Epstein's as Epstein's traveling massus. It wasn'n enterprise,
39:26
Alessi said, yeah, no shit, a criminal enterprise. And furthermore,
39:32
all of this nonsense about oh it was a massage,
39:36
it was for you know, a shit. They were being
39:39
acting as a massous. This that the other thing. When
39:42
you have the kind of money Jeffrey Epstein has, you
39:45
know the people that Jeffrey Epstein knows, you have those connections.
39:50
Do you really go and send your house lady out
39:55
trolling the streets for sixteen year olds to come over
39:58
and give you a massage? Or do you pay the
40:02
top industry professional who has homed their craft for years
40:07
and years and years and who is well respected amongst
40:10
the other upper crust of the elite. We all know
40:16
the answer to that. When you have big money like that,
40:18
you go and get the best massage the people you know,
40:21
whoever the massage, the messuse, who's working on the Lakers right,
40:27
something like that, You don't send Keylane Maxwell out to
40:31
troll the streets over Tomorrow Lago to find some little
40:35
sixteen year old girl to abuse, to bring over to
40:38
touch your disgusting ass harry chested, gross ass, disgusting looking boss.
40:44
That's not normal behavior. And the fact that Alessi calls
40:51
it an enterprise, that's just the cherry on top. We
40:55
all know that this is a criminal enterprise. We all
40:58
know that this is Rico worthy. Roberts told me she
41:04
thought she had landed a dream job. Later that night,
41:07
she says, her father dropped her off at Epstein's house
41:10
for what she and other survivors have called the audition.
41:14
I mean, it's chilling to think about Virginia's father dropping
41:19
her off there for this interview, this audition, and then
41:25
all of this unfolds afterwards. Imagine the burden her father
41:29
must have. I can't even imagine what it would be
41:34
like to know that you delivered your daughter basically to
41:40
the den of this disgusting serpent. Now, obviously nobody knew, right.
41:47
Who expected this lady with this high society British accent
41:53
was going to deliver you to this monster? Nobody knew right,
41:57
nobody understood as far as and these other young girls
42:02
thought this was their break. They were finally gonna get
42:06
a little chance to see how the other side lived.
42:11
And instead they showed up and had those dreams crushed
42:15
into dust under the heels of this sick bastard and
42:20
Gilaine Maxwell. Roberts has said in court documents and interviews
42:27
that Maxwell escorted her up the stairs to Epstein's room,
42:31
where what began as a massage turned into Maxwell and
42:34
Epstein coercing Roberts into sex acts. In court documents and
42:39
in interviews, other survivors too, have said Maxwell participated in
42:43
their abuse and sometimes photographed it. So again, we know
42:49
that there was a large amount of photographs taken, we
42:53
know that there was videos taken, and we know that
42:56
Maxwell loved to take these pictures and photograph these girls,
43:01
according to them. So my question is are these pictures
43:06
going to be used as evidence in this trial? We
43:10
know that there are explosive pictures, according to both parties.
43:18
My question is how far are those pictures going to
43:23
go to send Maxwell up the river? Because if there's
43:27
pictures of her with miners, it's a wrap, folks, It's
43:31
a foregone conclusion that this party is over for her
43:35
and that the baloney sandwich train is just beginning. Maxwell
43:43
came across as self possessed, her confidence, almost putting those
43:47
around her at ease and You've all met people like that, right,
43:50
someone who's charismatic, very confident, seems like they got the
43:54
world by the oysters. We've all met people like that.
44:00
And we've also met people who are very good at
44:03
faking the funk, at making pretend that they're nice people,
44:10
you know, wearing the face of a good person, only
44:16
to see that face crack and reveal the true horror
44:20
story beneath it. And that's what happened with somebody like Maxwell. Right.
44:24
They put on a good air of appearance when you
44:29
first meet them, they make you comfortable around them, They
44:31
get you thinking that this is the way things go,
44:34
and then before you know it, you're in the clutches
44:36
of a disgusting, sick, depraved lunatic. Maria Farmer fifty one,
44:46
worked for Epstein and Maxwell in the nineteen nineties, helping
44:49
Epstein acquire art and greeting guests that is Manhattan Townhouse.
44:53
She wrote in a twenty and nineteen Affidavid. She met
44:56
Epstein at an art show where some of her work
44:59
was on display. She told me that each day, when
45:03
the bells chimed at the nearby prep school, Maxwell would
45:06
call her to call her town car before she was
45:09
leaving the house, she would get like all hysterical and go,
45:13
I need to get new Biles, Farmer recalled in an interview.
45:17
She said Maxwell would bring her Yorkshire terrier Max and
45:20
they would circle the East seventies. When Maxwell spotted a teen,
45:25
she would order the driver to pull over. And that
45:28
sure does sound about right according to what Wuana Lessi
45:32
says was going on. According Tojuana Lessi, he was doing
45:35
the driving in Palm Beach. So why would they change
45:39
their mo in New York? Once again, Maria's story ringing true.
45:48
These people had a m they had a plan, They
45:53
knew what they were doing, they knew what worked. They
45:56
had success doing it elsewhere. Why would they change it
45:59
in New York City, especially down in Manhattan where there's
46:03
prep schools everywhere. You have Central Park, you have Columbus, Nay,
46:07
you name it. Manhattan is the perfect hunting ground for
46:14
these people. At the time, Maxwell and Epstein posed as
46:22
model scouts. According to Farmer, it wasn't that far fetched.
46:26
Victoria's secret owner, lest the crypt keeper Wexner, was Epstein's
46:31
client and friend, but Epstein managed Wexner's money, not talent.
46:36
Kilaane would say, you know, oh, I've got to get
46:39
a model, got to get a Victoria's Secret model. Farmer said,
46:42
I was dumb enough to believe it. I believed it
46:45
until I didn't. She saw girls arriving at Epstein's home,
46:49
she wrote in the affid David filed on behalf of
46:51
one of Epstein's survivors, and she told me they usually
46:55
left distressed. I mean, I can't even imagine. Honestly, I can't.
47:02
I am so glad that I grew up the way
47:06
I grew up. You learn to be skeptical of people real,
47:10
real fast. When you grow up in the inner city folks.
47:14
You learn not to buy what mother efforts are selling
47:18
real early in the inner city folks, and you understand
47:22
that everybody has a lick, everybody has a hustle. The
47:27
idea is to recognize what that hustle is, what that
47:30
lick is, and either A get the hell out of
47:34
the way if it's going to be disastrous, or B
47:39
hell you might want to get in on that lick.
47:44
That's the way it works. So I can't even I
47:49
can't even imagine. So for me growing up where I
47:54
grew up, forget it. I'm skeptical of everything and of everybody.
48:01
So I am just I'm again, I'm thankful that I
48:05
grew up in the inner city because the life lessons
48:08
you learn growing up like that are just so valuable
48:14
later on in life when you're dealing with scuz bags
48:17
or people trying to hustle you, or you know, any
48:20
of that. Jazz Farmer has her own story about Maxwell
48:30
as well. In her Affidavid, she accused Maxwell and Epstein
48:34
of sexually assaulting her in nineteen ninety six. Afterwards, she wrote,
48:38
they threatened her and cut her off from art related opportunities.
48:43
She said her career and life were ruined, and look,
48:46
let's be real. Maria has been very clear with her
48:49
story and what she has talked about in regards to
48:52
Jeffrey Epstein. I've had Maria on the podcast twice. You
48:56
can go and check out those interviews with her here
48:59
on the podcast. She's been on way bigger platforms, you know,
49:05
with Whitney Webb and other people. So if you're interested
49:09
in finding those interviews with Maria here on my show
49:12
or elsewhere, they are very accessible. Maxwell and Epstein's relationship
49:21
eventually shifted from romantic to practical again, I think that
49:26
it was practical the whole time. I don't think romance
49:29
ever played a part at all. She remained on his
49:33
payroll and continue to work for him even after they
49:36
broke up again. Could be part of that cover story. Look,
49:40
that's just my assumption I'm working on, right, But it
49:42
could be part of that cover story with them being
49:46
you know, oh we're together, but now we're broke up,
49:49
and you know how it works. In two thousand, Epstein
49:58
gave her a two million townhouse on the Upper east
50:02
Side along the way. She reportedly introduced him to many
50:06
of the influential people in his rolodex. So it definitely
50:11
was a too pronged assault with Epstein and Maxwell. Right,
50:17
it would be Maxwell to open up the doors with
50:19
her Oxford education. We know that the brutish ass Epstein
50:23
could have done that. So it was her to open
50:26
up the doors with that Oxford education, getting people comfortable
50:30
with her. You know, oh, this is Robert Maxwell's daughter,
50:34
blah blah blah, blah blah blah. So that opened the
50:38
door for the social circles for Epstein. Meanwhile, Gelan Maxwell
50:44
was able to piggyback on Epstein's wealth, right, it was
50:47
all part of the plan, in my opinion, And when
50:51
you look at everything, you look at Giln Maxwell's dad
50:55
and Jeffrey Epstein and how all of this came about,
50:59
it's hard not to think that there was more here
51:03
than just Oh, boy meets girl, girl meets boy boy
51:08
and girl fall in love. We don't have an Upper
51:12
West Side love story here, of folks. What we have
51:17
is something more like the show the Americans. In my opinion,
51:23
to date, Maxwell is the only one of Epstein's associates
51:26
who has faced criminal charges in the United States, And
51:29
that's an absolute travesty, right a dereliction of justice, a
51:33
dereliction of duty, and the federal courts, the justice system,
51:39
they should all be ashamed of themselves. All of these
51:43
people who participated should be facing RICO charges right now.
51:48
Why is R Kelly facing RICO charges but not Jeffrey
51:51
Epstein's people. Why's Keith ray Neery and the dirt bags
51:57
from Nexium facing RICO charges but not the remnants of
52:03
Epstein's criminal organization. What's the difference? What makes Gelaane Maxwell
52:11
so special? What makes the Jeffrey Epstein criminal enterprise so special?
52:23
On July second, she was arrested by the Southern District
52:26
of New York on six charges relating to conspiring with
52:29
Epstein to sexually abuse miners, as well as perjury for
52:33
sworn statements made as part of Robert's lawsuit, which ended
52:37
in a settlement. And it's funny too, because Maxwell's you
52:42
know people's they like to come out and say, well,
52:44
Maxwell has never even been found guilty in a civil suit. Well,
52:48
that's because she settled out of court. Okay, I mean,
52:53
do you think we're stupid? We know what it means. Okay,
52:57
we know what all of that means. She wasn't found
53:02
culpable or liable in the civil suit because it never
53:05
got to that point because she and her lawyers understood
53:10
her goose was cooked, so you might as well just
53:13
come out of the pocket now and save everybody of
53:15
the trouble. In March, she faced new charges of sex
53:23
trafficking a minor for Epstein and paying her Maxwell is
53:27
pleaded not guilty and now is awaiting her trial, which
53:31
is scheduled for November. So you see why her legal
53:35
team went so hard in the paint on the bail situation, right,
53:38
You see why they were going so hard to get
53:40
her bailed out. They knew that they were gonna have
53:44
to ask for this continuation. They knew that this trial
53:47
was gonna get bumped back, and they expected more charges.
53:51
Come on, you mean to tell me they didn't expect
53:53
a superseded indictment. And if that's the case, and her
53:57
lawyers weren't prepared for that, or they weren't expecting that,
54:00
maybe it's time to find some new lawyers, because anyone
54:06
with a brain in their head can take a look
54:08
at the evidence here and see that there was a
54:12
ton of it and that your client is going to
54:17
be hard pressed to find any defense, any ground that
54:20
is defensible, because her position right now is untenable. Folks.
54:27
There is no way from where I'm sitting that she
54:31
can beat these charges. The evidence is a mile high.
54:38
As part of her statement sent to Politico just before
54:41
the newer charges came out, her brother Ian Maxwell said,
54:45
Keilaine is looking forward to a fair trial where she
54:48
fully expects to be exonerated. All right, I mean, I
54:53
guess that has to be kind of the outlook you
54:57
have if you're Maxwell or her family at this point, right,
55:00
you can't just be sitting there saying Oh yeah, well
55:02
that's it. That's it. She's going to jail, you know,
55:05
the saying right, in for a penny, in for a pound,
55:08
And that's what the Maxwell family, that's where they're at
55:11
at this point. They've thrown their chips down on the table.
55:15
They're all in with defending their family member. And I
55:20
don't know if it's simply to try and protect the
55:25
family name for whatever that's worth, or if they truly
55:29
believe that she's innocent. You never know what to believe
55:32
with people like this, what their motivations are. This isn't
55:36
like a loving family like what we come from, right,
55:39
you know, hanging out with your dad growing up, maybe
55:43
holding the flashlight for him. Well he's you know, working
55:46
on the car engine, helping him paint the house, whatever
55:49
it is. This is not the same thing the way
55:53
that they grew up. So I don't you know, I
55:59
find it hard to believe that there is some kind
56:02
of like deep familial familial family bond here where it's
56:08
keeping them locked together arm in arm as they defend Glaine. Here.
56:17
According to her brother, they really didn't have a relationship
56:20
through all of those years, So how does he or
56:23
the rest of the family know what she was up to,
56:26
know what her and Jeffrey Epstein were up to. They don't.
56:30
All they're going on is what she's telling them. And
56:34
I think they're going to be in for quite the
56:36
rude awakening in November. And I mean, with the money
56:41
that they're paying for that legal team, you'd expect some results,
56:44
right if you were Maxwell and her family. The meter
56:47
is running, you got to expect those lawyers are costing
56:51
thousands of dollars per hour. Then you have to add
56:54
on the experts. Then you add on the experts who
56:57
check the experts work, and you know how it goes.
57:00
Before you know, you're talking millions and millions of dollars
57:02
to fight a federal case. So we know that Gilay
57:06
Maxwell's legal team is loving this. And the longer this goes,
57:10
the more drawn out it is, the better off they are. Right. Meanwhile,
57:15
you got Maxwell who is basically rotting away right now
57:19
in that jail cell and paying out money hand over
57:24
fist for what I believe is just an eventuality. At
57:28
this point, there's no stopping the train that's coming down
57:31
these tracks, folks. From where I'm sitting, the evidence is clear,
57:40
and that's just the evidence that we have. Can you
57:42
imagine what they have behind the scenes to paste onto
57:45
this lady. I can't even begin to think about how
57:52
much evidence has been compiled over the years. The question
57:58
really becomes, like usual, how far and how hard are
58:03
the prosecutors going to go? In my opinion, they need
58:10
to go all the way. This is not a case
58:13
to half step. This is not a case to give
58:16
a little bit of breathing room to the defendant. This
58:21
is a throw the book at them, toss away the key,
58:26
and bury them under the prison once convicted kind of case.
58:30
And I hope that's what the prosecutors are angling for.
58:33
And I hope when they show up into that courtroom
58:36
when this trial starts, that they got a lot of
58:39
bulldog in them. I don't want no half step in.
58:44
I don't want no nonsense. I want the federal government
58:47
at its finest scumbaggery levels. Every trick in the book,
58:52
I want them to use it, every single underhanded tactic
58:57
that they use against poor people every single day in
59:00
the federal court system. I want them to use those
59:03
same tactics against Maxwell. Those are the rules, right, of course,
59:10
I want those rules all change. That's a different topic, however.
59:13
But the rules that we have right here in front
59:15
of us, well, those are the rules that are gonna
59:18
govern this game. Gielane, Maxwell and all of your rich friends,
59:23
all of your buddies, all of your powerful allies who
59:26
put these rules on the books mainly to screw poor people. Well,
59:30
now you're about to get a little taste, and it
59:34
sure seems like you don't like the shit sandwich. There's
59:40
no dispute among Epstein's survivors about the role they believe
59:43
Maxwell played. Some even told me they feel more betrayed
59:47
by Maxwell than by Epstein because she was the one
59:50
who recruited them in the first place. Yeah. I mean,
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you gotta imagine the broken trust. You got somebody who
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is supposedly trustworthy, who comes off as like this really educated,
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well spoken person, and then you have these girls from broken,
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disadvantaged backgrounds, from homes where you know, the parents are
1:00:13
struggling just to keep their head above water. They meet
1:00:18
this lady and all of a sudden, they're like, Wow,
1:00:21
we made it. This is our big chance. We have
1:00:24
a chance to make some money here. You know, two
1:00:27
or three hundred bucks doesn't sound like a lot of
1:00:28
money to us. But to these girls, that's a ton
1:00:31
of dough. That's what their parents were making in a week.
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You mean to tell me you're gonna give me three
1:00:37
hundred bucks to come give this guy a massage. Hell,
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I'm in. And when you have somebody like Elaane Maxwell
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assusing your feelings, massaging the way you feel about things,
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guiding you towards Jeffrey Epstein's web telling you that it's normal. Oh,
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this is okay, this is how the other the other
1:00:55
side lives, this is what rich people do. How are
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these this young girl's supposed to know any better. They
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don't have the life experience to rely on. They can't
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just pull it out of their toolbox and say, oh,
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I've seen this situation before. I know exactly what's going on.
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So I could totally see why these girls would feel
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way more betrayed by Geelain Maxwell, and why a lot
1:01:22
of these survivors want Maxwell to face the maximum amount
1:01:25
of justice that's possible. Put yourself in their shoes. She
1:01:37
would be able to figure out what it was that
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a possible survivor wanted or needed, Roberts said. And because
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she looked like a nice Mary Poppins figure, you kind
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of trusted her, and that all goes to it right
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one hundred percent. Somebody is well spoken, somebody comes off
1:01:53
as if they're from the upper crust. They act like,
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you know, with an air of a thort. It's easy
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for people who've never been around that to be sucked
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in by that scam, by that plot, by that ploy.
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Maxwell was the snake oil salesman, folks. She was good
1:02:14
at her trade. For all of her scumbaggery, for all
1:02:18
of her nonsense, she had the charisma that was needed
1:02:23
for somebody in her role in this kind of criminal operation.
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She would suck them in, make them calm, and then
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Epstein would come in for the kill. And then afterwards
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Maxwell would scruise right back in or in some cases
1:02:42
that like some of these girls alleged to be there
1:02:44
at the same time and helping with the abuse. And
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then afterwards she'd come in with her pretty words, her
1:02:49
flowery language, her Mary Poppins like attitude, and massage everything
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and let the girls know, oh, this is just the
1:02:58
way it goes, that's what we do here. And then
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once that happened, the first time they were sucked in
1:03:06
and the cycle began, she could care less about who
1:03:12
we were, what happened to us in the past. Roberts
1:03:15
continued as long as it benefited her. And I think
1:03:19
that's the most best I shouldn't even say most, the
1:03:24
best way to explain Gilay Maxwell and the rest of
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these people. They don't care about you. They don't care
1:03:31
about your kids, your children, your life, your goals, your dreams,
1:03:36
none of it. They care about consolidating power. They care
1:03:41
about moving their plots down the field. And for the
1:03:47
most part, we're just in the way. If we're not
1:03:50
there to wash their dishes or drive their cars, or
1:03:53
clip their lawn, or give them a haircut, or cook
1:03:57
their food or any other anial position that you could imagine,
1:04:02
then we're just in their way, or we're extra mouths
1:04:05
to feed that need to be sent to some endless war.
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And that's how they look at people on the grand scale,
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never mind on the micro on the one on one,
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when we're talking about girls like this that Gilaine Maxwell
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is attempting to groom, attempting to bring into Jeffrey Epstein's web.
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Maxwell played a huge part in what went on here, folks,
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and all of these survivors that have come out and
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said it all of the evidence that has been presented
1:04:41
thus far, and all of the evidence that has yet
1:04:45
to be brought out in the public, well, all of
1:04:49
that is going to be brought forward come November, and
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Gilaine Maxwell, her legal team, and those defending her are
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going to look pretty stupid in my opinion. All Right, folks,
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That concludes part two of the political article by Tara
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Paul Mary about the women who enabled Jeffrey Epstein. In
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part three, we're going to dive into the assistance and
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we're going to talk about the girls women who I
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have coined the Core four. If you like to contact me,
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you can do that at Bobby Kapuchi at protonmeil dot com.
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