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Midday Missing - Karlie Guse & Jason Jolkowski · True Crime and Wine Time

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, Happy hump Day, and welcome to Midday Missing,
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Speaker 1: where I cover missing person cases. And I guess I
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Speaker 1: should have muted myself because I was hearing myself in
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Speaker 1: my head. Anyway, I am Terry true Crime. For those
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Speaker 1: of you that are not familiar with me, I am
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Speaker 1: half of the True Crime and Wine Time podcast team,
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Speaker 1: And if you didn't know, currently, True Crime and Wine
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Speaker 1: Time Production produces several shows, so we are on several
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Speaker 1: times a week. We have the Hey Host Show with JT.
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Speaker 1: We have the podcast True Crime and Wine Time, the
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Speaker 1: Investigation into the Disappearance of Chase Lackey, Night Court, and
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Speaker 1: Midday Missing.
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Speaker 2: So we are on several times.
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Speaker 1: A week and you can always join us if you
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Speaker 1: want some fun, or you can catch it later.
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Speaker 2: And before we get.
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Speaker 1: Started today, I thought I will let mister Jasper say
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Speaker 1: hello real quick.
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Speaker 2: Can you say hi? Buddy? Can you say hi?
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Speaker 1: The only time he talks or screams is when I
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Speaker 1: leave the room, So I don't know if that's a
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Speaker 1: good thing or a bad thing. But there's mister Jasper
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Speaker 1: and he's just going to go back and late in
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Speaker 1: my lap where hopefully he will be good for this.
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Speaker 1: So Guys, I have to tell you my heart breaks
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Speaker 1: when I'm looking at the headlines and cases about these cases.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm just now he's doing on
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Speaker 1: my cords.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's not do that. Okay, that would not be
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Speaker 2: good for your health. But it's just heartbreaking.
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Speaker 1: And I just want to say that if listening to
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Speaker 1: any of these cases is hard for you, Tolly understand
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Speaker 1: if you can't, but appreciate you trying. But today, the
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Speaker 1: first missing person case, okay, Jasper, he's not cooperating here
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Speaker 1: that we're going to cover is Carly Goose, Okay. And
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Speaker 1: she was sixteen when she went missing in Mono County,
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Speaker 1: California in twenty eighteen. So on Friday, October twelfth, Carly
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Speaker 1: told her parents that she was going to the high
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Speaker 1: school football game with her boyfriend, but instead she went
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Speaker 1: to a party. Now, not going to confirm or deny
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Speaker 1: that I ever did that, I'm just going to say
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Speaker 1: sounds like something a teenager would do. Now, her boyfriend
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Speaker 1: said while they are at the party, she smoked some marijuana,
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Speaker 1: which they had done before, and that she started freaking
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Speaker 1: out and was very disoriented, and the boyfriend suspected that
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Speaker 1: maybe the marijuana was lace with something. She was freaked out. Oh,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to put him under the desk.
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Speaker 2: To go lay down. Go lay down there, baby, there
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Speaker 2: you go.
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Speaker 1: Sorry about that. That she was scared of the music.
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Speaker 1: She was paranoid about her boyfriend, so something was happening.
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Speaker 1: She called her stepmother, who picked her up and took
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Speaker 1: her home. Now her stepmom, Melissa, said she stayed next
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Speaker 1: to her the rest of the night to make sure
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Speaker 1: she was okay, and that when she woke up early
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Speaker 1: in the morning on October thirteenth, Carly was gone. Now Melissa,
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Speaker 1: her stepmom, said that Carly was very pale and that
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Speaker 1: she acted very weird when she picked her up. Now
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Speaker 1: her and the dad said they felt drugs were involved
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Speaker 1: and that Carly had a bad reaction. She admitted to
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Speaker 1: her stepmom that she had made some bad decisions that day,
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Speaker 1: had some but what we're going to hear is some
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Speaker 1: other things that make this case even more interesting. Now
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Speaker 1: Carly lived with her dad, Zach and her ste Melissa.
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Speaker 1: Zach had sole custody of Carla, but as her mom,
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Speaker 1: Lindsay had some medical issues and couldn't feel that she
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Speaker 1: could take care of Carly. The way she needed to,
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Speaker 1: and she needed to move back in with her parents
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Speaker 1: because of her health issues. So she had mom, dad, stepmom.
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Speaker 1: You know, she had you know, a family unit around her. Now,
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Speaker 1: Carl was seen by neighbors around Hey, guys, can you
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Speaker 1: tell me in the comments if you can see me?
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Speaker 2: It looks like.
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Speaker 1: The internet went down. I am now connected to a hotspot,
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Speaker 1: so I apologize. I do not know where I went lost,
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Speaker 1: but I'm back, so not exactly sure. Oh my gosh,
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Speaker 1: JT hi JT. I'm not sure exactly where I was.
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Speaker 1: But I was getting into telling y'all that there's some
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Speaker 1: suspicious things about the family. They went on Dateline and
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Speaker 1: admitted later that they lied to Dateline. Okay, Then they
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Speaker 1: went on the Doctor Phil show, and Doctor Phil, if
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Speaker 1: you don't know, he does a missing segment. They have
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Speaker 1: helped fine some people, and they have investigators. They have time,
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Speaker 1: they have money. The family refused to get them the
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Speaker 1: audio recording, so Melissa, the stepmom, said that she recorded
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Speaker 1: her stepdaughter so that she could play it back to
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Speaker 1: her when she was in her right mind, so that
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Speaker 1: she could let her hear how she sounded. But yet
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Speaker 1: they refuse to give it to doctor Phil. They refuse
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Speaker 1: to give their home address, witnesses addresses, or phone numbers
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Speaker 1: so that they could talk to doctor Phil. All of
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Speaker 1: that makes me wonder why you are not doing everything
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Speaker 1: in your power to help find your kid. Because I'm
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Speaker 1: going to just be honest, even if Jasper goes missing,
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Speaker 1: I am going to share every information, even if that
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Speaker 1: information is guess what, I was sleeping in bed naked
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Speaker 1: an he took off and I had to get closed,
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Speaker 1: so I don't know where he went. I mean, if
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Speaker 1: you have to admit some things, the other thing. Originally,
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Speaker 1: the stepmom said she put her daughter to bed, she
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Speaker 1: woke up and she was gone. Then later she said, no,
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Speaker 1: I stayed next to her all night long.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So.
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Speaker 1: That just makes me concerned. Next, if your child is
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Speaker 1: acting that strange and you think they smoked marijuana that
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Speaker 1: was laced with something, I would be taking my kid
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Speaker 1: to the er, get a drug test done, drop blood,
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Speaker 1: see what that f it was laced with, because what
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Speaker 1: if it was something that would have killed her while
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Speaker 1: she was sleeping. I mean, you just don't know. And guys,
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Speaker 1: the cops are not gonna arrest her for smoking a joint, Okay,
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Speaker 1: even in crazy Texas, They're not gonna do that. So
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Speaker 1: that makes me wonder, why wouldn't you take him to
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Speaker 1: the hospital. Why wouldn't you give all of the information
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Speaker 1: that you could to help. I mean, it makes me wonder,
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Speaker 1: what are you hiding or what are you lying about?
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Speaker 1: Her mom, her biological mom, now believes that the step
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Speaker 1: mom and dad had something to do with Carly's disappearance.
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Speaker 1: There is let me tell you, guys, I went down
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Speaker 1: some rabbit holes everything from Carly died in bed and
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Speaker 1: the stepmom and dad freaked out so they got rid
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Speaker 1: of her body, that she was abducted by somebody, that
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Speaker 1: she oweded something.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's just so many things.
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Speaker 1: So I want to tell the parents, please open your closet.
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Speaker 1: We all got skeletons in your closet. Okay, I got
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Speaker 1: skeletons in my closet. It comes to finding your kids,
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Speaker 1: your grand your spouse, well maybe not your ex spouse,
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Speaker 1: but if it's your spouse, you do what the heck
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Speaker 1: you got to. I mean, I do not want to
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Speaker 1: tell people how to act when your kid goes missing. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I like to think I know how I would act,
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Speaker 1: whether i'd be crying hysterical, I'd be silent. I don't know,
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Speaker 1: but I can tell you this. I would give all
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Speaker 1: information to the police to find the person that's missing.
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Speaker 1: And if I think their drugs have been laced with something,
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Speaker 1: I would take them to the hospital.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: Now police have said both the Stepmam Melissa and the
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Speaker 1: dad Zach have passed a polygraph test and they do
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Speaker 1: not believe they have anything to do with her disappearance. Guys,
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Speaker 1: to me, a polygraph test is junk science. If you
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Speaker 1: can be taught how to beat the test, or you
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Speaker 1: can take a xanax or something so that you can
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Speaker 1: pass the test, that is junk science. Unless there is
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Speaker 1: something you can add to the test to count.
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Speaker 2: For those things, it's a junk test. So I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Until she has found we're not going to know what happened.
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Speaker 1: I am going to try to believe, on the positive side,
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Speaker 1: that they were not involved and that they just do
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Speaker 1: not know what to do and they're out of their element.
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Speaker 1: I am just going to tell them, you're out of
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Speaker 1: your element, open up your door, tell the police come in,
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Speaker 1: then have whatever they need.
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Speaker 2: Okay, that's all I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: Now, if you have any information about Carly Goose, please
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Speaker 1: contact the FBI at nine one six seven four six
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Speaker 1: seven thousand, or if you don't feel comfortable, you can
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Speaker 1: submit an anonymous tip at tips dot FBI dot gov.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna also say this, I don't know how their
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Speaker 1: system works, but use a VPN and a dugo or
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Speaker 1: a hidden browser just to make sure you're protecting yourself
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Speaker 1: if you really want to be anonymous. Okay, I don't
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Speaker 1: know how it works. I'm just gonna say to please
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Speaker 1: do that.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: Now, this next case is heartbreaking because of the limited
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Speaker 1: amount of information that I could find because once again,
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Speaker 1: he's not a blonde, white female. Okay, but excuse me.
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Speaker 1: And also I have someone sucking on my toe. So
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Speaker 1: Jasper's getting ready for his lunch, but he doesn't get
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Speaker 1: it until one o'clock. So keep on sucking on the toe.
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Speaker 1: Just don't bite. So Jason Jawaski, I think that's how
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Speaker 1: you say it, or Jason Joel Kolwaski, Sorry.
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Speaker 2: I tried.
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Speaker 1: He was born on June twenty fourth, nineteen eighty one,
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Speaker 1: in Nebraska and was last seen on June thirteenth, two
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Speaker 1: thousand and one. He was nineteen years old, and he
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Speaker 1: was at home on the morning of June thirteenth when
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Speaker 1: his boss called and asked if he could come into
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Speaker 1: work early. Okay, Jason, being that stand up guy, said yeah,
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Speaker 1: I can come in. My car's in the shop. It
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Speaker 1: would take me an hour to walk there. Let me
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Speaker 1: see if my coworker can bring me and I'll call
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Speaker 1: you back. Called his coworker. Coworker said absolutely, I can
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Speaker 1: take you. Let's meet at the high school where we
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Speaker 1: graduated from, which was only about eight blocks away from
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Speaker 1: Jason's house now. They agreed to meet at eleven AM,
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Speaker 1: and Jason was heading out to walk to the high school.
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Speaker 1: He was dressed in his uniform, but being the responsible
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Speaker 1: young manny in, he first took in the garbage cans
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Speaker 1: and returned them to the garage. People, how many of
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Speaker 1: you can't get your husband or kids to do that?
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Speaker 1: So I'm going to just say Jason was a really
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Speaker 1: good guy, and his brother and a neighbor saw him
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Speaker 1: doing that chore and then saw him leave in his
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Speaker 1: working form to walk eight blocks, which he had done
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Speaker 1: hundreds thousands of times.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 1: His coworker waited at the high school until around eleven
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Speaker 1: thirty am when she jumped out, found a payphone, called
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Speaker 1: to see what was holding him up. His brother Michael
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Speaker 1: answered and said, hey, he left about over a half
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Speaker 1: hour ago. They both became worried and guys, Jason never
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Speaker 1: showed up at the high school and he was never
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Speaker 1: seen by anyone again after putting those trash cans in
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Speaker 1: the garage. Now this next part, those of you that
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Speaker 1: know me are followed their shit.
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Speaker 2: That just pisses me off.
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Speaker 1: Back then, the family had to wait twenty four hours
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Speaker 1: to report him missing. Why in the hell do you
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Speaker 1: need to wait twenty four hours? Everybody knows there's even
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Speaker 1: a show. Forty eight hours. It's critical most forty eight hours, okay,
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Speaker 1: So and what is so common? Police failed to immediately
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Speaker 1: act they believed maybe Jason was a runaway. They waited
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Speaker 1: ten days to start actually looking for him. Guys, ten days,
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Speaker 1: ten freaking days. They waited to start looking for him
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Speaker 1: because I mean, guys, if you wait ten days, I
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Speaker 1: think we all know. Evidence can disappear, People's memories change backup,
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Speaker 1: can be erased on a ring camera. If you only follow,
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Speaker 1: you know, save it for seven days, shit goes away, okay,
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Speaker 1: And the other crazy thing. He never had run away before.
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Speaker 1: He had six hundred and fifty dollars in his bank account.
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Speaker 1: Who runs away and doesn't take their money?
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 1: So police later did view video footage from the high
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Speaker 1: school and they verified he never made it to the
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Speaker 1: high school. So somewhere in eight blocks Jason went missing. Okay,
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Speaker 1: his ATM card was never used, that six hundred and
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Speaker 1: fifty dollars still sat there, his cell phone was not used.
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Speaker 1: Now a least in the family do believe that he
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Speaker 1: was most likely abducted and killed. Okay, I don't know
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Speaker 1: why they think he was abducted and killed instead of
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Speaker 1: maybe just subducted. I think we've learned that people are
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Speaker 1: sex trafficked, that people kidnap people hold them in their
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Speaker 1: homes for many, many years. So I don't know why
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Speaker 1: they suspect that. I couldn't find anything that would tell me,
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Speaker 1: and since we don't investigate the cases, I had to
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Speaker 1: prevent myself from going into that. They did go and
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Speaker 1: check out the multiple sex offenders in the area, and
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Speaker 1: they say nothing came of this. So I'm going to
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Speaker 1: say not saying that if they would have done something
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Speaker 1: within the first twenty four hours or within the first
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Speaker 1: ten fucking day. Oh excuse me, first ten days, maybe
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Speaker 1: something could have happened, say, you would have had a
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Speaker 1: better chance. And if you want the odds in your favor,
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Speaker 1: you got to do it all and you got to
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Speaker 1: do it quickly. Now it has been twenty three years
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Speaker 1: and Jason is still missing. His family founded a nonprofit
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Speaker 1: called Project Jason that helps family of missing persons with
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Speaker 1: tactical guidance, emotional support, and gives overall general hope for
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Speaker 1: the families. So you can learn more about that organization
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Speaker 1: by going to Project Jason dot org or they have
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Speaker 1: a Facebook group. And if you have any information regarding
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Speaker 1: Jason jo Kowski, please call the Omaha Police Department at
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Speaker 1: four oh two four four four five eight one eight
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Speaker 1: or call one eight hundred eight four three five six
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Speaker 1: seven eight. I also want somebody to find out do
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Speaker 1: you still have to wait twenty four hours in Omaha,
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Speaker 1: Nebraska to report somebody missing? Because if you do, you
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Speaker 1: need to write your legislators and tell them they need
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Speaker 1: to change that shit because that's just not acceptable, okay,
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Speaker 1: Or you need to move the hell out of Omaha, Nebraska.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Texas and Nebraska have a big you know,
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Speaker 1: favory thing kind of gone sod is Oklahoma. I'm just
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Speaker 1: gonna tell you, Nebraska's a beautiful place. A lot of
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Speaker 1: great people live there.
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Speaker 2: But if you have to wait.
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Speaker 1: Twenty four hours to purport your nineteen year old missing
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Speaker 1: or any family member missing, you might want to move. Okay,
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Speaker 1: there's my rent on that.
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Speaker 2: Guys.
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Speaker 1: Now this next one, Angie actually told me about it.
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Speaker 2: And Angie, I want to say say this one pushed me.
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Speaker 1: In a lot of ways, and not in a good way. Okay,
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Speaker 1: not in a good way. So Daniel Robinson was twenty
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Speaker 1: four when he went missing on June twenty third, twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty one and Buckeye, Arizona. Guys, Daniel was a Tempe geologist.
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Speaker 1: He's a smart dude. He was last saving his work
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Speaker 1: site in Bucky, Arizona. His jeep was found crashed in
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Speaker 1: ravine and police originally sat there was.
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Speaker 2: No foul play.
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Speaker 1: So my first question, police, hmmm, his jeep is crashed
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Speaker 1: in a ravine in his body or he is nowhere
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Speaker 1: near the jeep And you said there was no foul play.
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Speaker 1: To hit a ravine, you're not on the road. Did
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Speaker 1: you think he just decided to go off roading for
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Speaker 1: some reason. Really, you just said there's no foul play.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: Now, a kick ass private investigator who is a retired
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Speaker 1: police officer has done more work than the police on
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Speaker 1: this and he said in his opinion, and guys, he
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Speaker 1: was a retired police officer, so I trust his opinion.
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Speaker 1: They said this crash looked like a setup, okay, And
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Speaker 1: that the jeep was driven for about eleven miles after
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Speaker 1: the airbag's deployed. Okay, so that means someone hit the car.
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Speaker 1: He drove another eleven miles into that ravine.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: So yes, maybe he was disoriented from an airbag.
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's be fair.
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Speaker 1: I've driven into a ravine too, But you found me
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Speaker 1: next to my car waiting, okay. Also, they found red
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Speaker 1: paint on his jeep, which indicated someone hit him causing
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Speaker 1: the crash.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: Now, guys, here's the other thing. His jeep was found
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Speaker 1: July twenty third, which happens to be my birthday. In
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Speaker 1: case anyone wants to put that down and mail me
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Speaker 1: pink glitter, I'm always open for pink glitter. But his
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Speaker 1: jeep was found on July twenty third by a local
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Speaker 1: rancher in that ravine. That rancher had been in that
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Speaker 1: area and at that ravine on the seventeenth, which means
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Speaker 1: that jeep had not been there since he went missing
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Speaker 1: on the twenty third. So please, how could you say
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Speaker 1: there was no foul play when you went missing on
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Speaker 1: the twenty third? You found not the police, but someone
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Speaker 1: found the jeep on the twenty third, a month later,
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Speaker 1: and it had been in that area, you know, a
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Speaker 1: week before, and the jeep wasn't there. Someone put that
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Speaker 1: jeep there after he went missing. Okay, guys, you all
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Speaker 1: met with me and the private investigator. Mind you again,
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Speaker 1: not the police. The private investigator went to Daniel's place
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Speaker 1: where he resided. His room had been severely ransacked, and
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Speaker 1: someone got into his laptop and was searching for shit
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Speaker 1: on his laptop. Suspicious anyone. And he was a geologist.
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Speaker 1: And I can't help but think did they you know,
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Speaker 1: was somebody looking to see if he was searching for goal?
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. There could be so many things. Now,
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Speaker 1: Daniel's dad has said the Buckeye police have been less
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Speaker 1: than helpful. Guys, I'm going to just say less than helpful.
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Speaker 1: His dad, David is a nice guy, because I wouldn't
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Speaker 1: have said it so nice. Okay, now here's my thing, Guys,
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Speaker 1: Daniel is African American. He's black, and I can't help.
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Speaker 1: But wonder is that one of the reasons the police
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Speaker 1: have been less than helpful and want to say that
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Speaker 1: they don't suspect foul play. And the total lack of
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Speaker 1: investigation by the Buckeye police is absolutely horrific. You know
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Speaker 1: the fact that they say no foul play, but yet
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Speaker 1: the suspicion around the car. Guys, did they think he
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Speaker 1: just hung around in the desert because this is the
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Speaker 1: desert for weeks, then decided to cross his jeep and
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Speaker 1: then maybe he summoned aliens to come beat me up
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Speaker 1: to their spaceship. Seriously, police, do your damn job. I
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Speaker 1: have said this about Harris County, and I've said before
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Speaker 1: not all law enforcement do this, okay, but there are
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Speaker 1: some out there that are just bad apples and it's rotten.
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Speaker 1: I don't care if the person is purple black, a prostitute,
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Speaker 1: a drug addict, or having a mental episode. Your job
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Speaker 1: is to find them, okay, and then when you find them,
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Speaker 1: and if it was a criminal act, it is to
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Speaker 1: get justice and charge them if you never look for them.
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Speaker 1: When you find a body and you see he was murdered,
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Speaker 1: if you haven't done an investigation, how are you going
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Speaker 1: to be able to charge the person or find the person?
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Speaker 1: Somebody please explain to me how you can do that
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Speaker 1: if you never did an investigation in the first place. Somebody, please,
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Speaker 1: if you can answer that to me. If you know
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Speaker 1: law enforcement, please come at me.
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Speaker 2: And tell me.
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Speaker 1: Because I am not a police officer, but I'm not stupid. Okay,
27:56
Speaker 1: Cause and effect. If you don't do this, you can
27:59
Speaker 1: have an effect. If you don't investigate, you can't charge someone. Okay,
28:06
Speaker 1: just gonna say you can't. Now his dad has started
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Speaker 1: an amazing website, okay, and a Facebook group.
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Speaker 2: Go there.
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Speaker 1: I am going to be doing some more research on
28:20
Speaker 1: this case because I am wondering, and I say, I'm
28:26
Speaker 1: not going to investigate these cases that don't have the time.
28:29
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if the Arizona Desert where they were working
28:33
Speaker 1: and he was doing his geological stuff for the engineering company,
28:38
Speaker 1: was there a drug farm somewhere near there. Maybe I've
28:41
Speaker 1: watched too much Breaking Bad. Maybe I've dug too much
28:45
Speaker 1: into the chase lackey case. I just want to know
28:48
Speaker 1: what did he possibly stumble upon that had somebody worried. Okay,
28:55
Speaker 1: the website his dad started is called Please Help Find
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Speaker 1: Daniel dot com and that's also the name of their
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Speaker 1: Facebook group, and they are working tirestly to bring his
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Speaker 1: son's disappearance. He's even running for an office political office.
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Speaker 1: He is.
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Speaker 2: Like me as a parent, he ain't all stop. So
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Speaker 2: kudos to David.
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Speaker 1: If somebody wants to reach out to David's dad and
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Speaker 1: see if he wants to come on here, I would
29:29
Speaker 1: love to chat with him. I'm going to try to
29:32
Speaker 1: send him a message, but with everything I've got going on,
29:35
Speaker 1: I don't know if I have the time to really
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Speaker 1: seek him out. But I would love to talk to
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Speaker 1: him because he sounds like my kind of parent. Now,
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Speaker 1: if you have any information regarding Daniel's disappearance, please call
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Speaker 1: the tip line at eight four four six zero two
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Speaker 1: zero six six zero. Okay, guys, I have to tell
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Speaker 1: you something. When I first was typing this up, I
30:01
Speaker 1: typed zero sixty sixty six and I was like, oh
30:05
Speaker 1: my god, you cannot have a tip line that.
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Speaker 2: Ends in sixty sixty six.
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Speaker 1: But I went back and realized it was a typo.
30:11
Speaker 1: It is zero six six zero, so I'm going to
30:16
Speaker 1: just say something. Something is just suspicious about this now, guys,
30:25
Speaker 1: I decided to cover another case since I wasn't able
30:30
Speaker 1: to be here Monday. And this is a case that
30:34
Speaker 1: most people have heard of. It has made national headlines,
30:38
Speaker 1: and I'm going to tell you when it happened. I
30:42
Speaker 1: made my original judgment and I never researched it, but
30:49
Speaker 1: I watched a bunch of things about it news newscases.
30:53
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you my judgment still stands on
30:57
Speaker 1: who I think's involved. Okay, kyne Horman, I'm sure most
31:02
Speaker 1: people remember the adorable young man in his CSIIT shirt
31:10
Speaker 1: and his glasses, and the picture was taken outside of
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Speaker 1: the science fair at school on the day he went missing.
31:18
Speaker 1: He is absolutely adorable. So he was born on September ninth,
31:25
Speaker 1: two thousand and two, and he disappeared from Skyline Elementary
31:30
Speaker 1: School in Portland, Oregon, on June fourth, twenty ten. Okay, guys,
31:36
Speaker 1: I gotta stop right here. How in the f does
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Speaker 1: a kid go missing from inside an elementary school. I'll
31:45
Speaker 1: tell you how how I think when we get there
31:49
Speaker 1: Karen had been taken to school by his stepmother Terry,
31:52
Speaker 1: And guys, I'm going to just say right now, I'm
31:55
Speaker 1: glad she has an extra R in her name because
31:58
Speaker 1: I don't want anyone to ever can infuse me as
32:03
Speaker 1: being the same as that woman, because I think she
32:06
Speaker 1: is a bunny boiler. But she helped him set up
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Speaker 1: for the science fair. Terry said she left the school
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Speaker 1: around eight forty five and that she saw Kyen walking
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Speaker 1: down the hall towards his classroom. Then she went to
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Speaker 1: do Aaron's YadA YadA stuff, and then that afternoon she
32:26
Speaker 1: posted a picture on Facebook around one fifteen pm showing
32:31
Speaker 1: kyrone at the science fair. Then that afternoon, her and
32:36
Speaker 1: Kyene's dad, Kane and their new little girl went to
32:41
Speaker 1: the bus stop to get Kyen, and guys, they were
32:44
Speaker 1: shocked when he did not get off the bus and
32:47
Speaker 1: was told he never got on the bus. First of all,
32:53
Speaker 1: why doesn't that school have a notification system telling parents
32:58
Speaker 1: their child is abb sent from school? I had kids.
33:03
Speaker 1: I even got notified back in two thousand and five
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Speaker 1: when my kids didn't go to school.
33:10
Speaker 2: So how when he.
33:11
Speaker 1: Didn't make it to his first period class? Did dad
33:14
Speaker 1: not get a text, a phone call, something. So then
33:21
Speaker 1: they checked with the school.
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Speaker 2: And found.
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Speaker 1: He was absent all day and he never made it
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Speaker 1: to class, which they would have known if the school
33:31
Speaker 1: system had a notification system. Okay, the police here did
33:38
Speaker 1: a damn good job. I like to give credit where
33:41
Speaker 1: credit is due. They immediately began searching around the school
33:47
Speaker 1: about a two and a half mile area and near
33:50
Speaker 1: by an island that was right by there that there
33:53
Speaker 1: was a bridge. They had over three hundred qualified search
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Speaker 1: and rescue individuals plus the thirteen hundred others who came
34:03
Speaker 1: and helped search. They worked twenty four hours a day,
34:08
Speaker 1: NonStop for ten days, and he was not found. Okay,
34:15
Speaker 1: and guys, this case gets crazier. Okay, at ten days,
34:21
Speaker 1: they did not stop investigating. They stopped searching and spent
34:25
Speaker 1: more time on investigating.
34:27
Speaker 2: One of the.
34:28
Speaker 1: Reasons I think that is is because of information that
34:31
Speaker 1: they uncovered during their search. The Horman's landscaper came forward
34:39
Speaker 1: and told police that batshit bunny boiler crazy Terry had
34:45
Speaker 1: offered him money to kill Cain, which is Kyne's dad,
34:49
Speaker 1: back in January, just five months before Kyrone disappeared. Okay, guys,
34:57
Speaker 1: did you hear me? She solicited someone to try to
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Speaker 1: kill her husband five months before their son goes missing,
35:06
Speaker 1: or her step son, and she's the last one to
35:09
Speaker 1: see him, supposedly walking towards his class. Now, guys, Terry
35:18
Speaker 1: denied this. However, she failed two polygraph tests. Like I said,
35:25
Speaker 1: they are junk science. I think you can pass them
35:29
Speaker 1: if you're taught how to cheat. However, I do think
35:33
Speaker 1: if you fail them, I would take about seventy five
35:38
Speaker 1: percent of that as factual. Okay, now, Cain Kyne's dad,
35:43
Speaker 1: I am going to tell you he did exactly what
35:47
Speaker 1: in the hell a person should do. He immediately moved
35:53
Speaker 1: out of the house, took the daughter with him, filed
35:56
Speaker 1: for divorce and a restraining order against batshit bunny boiler Terry. Okay, guys,
36:04
Speaker 1: that is what a parent does. I mean a lot
36:09
Speaker 1: of you know, doubleh. I love him to the moon
36:12
Speaker 1: and the back. He is my other half. He is
36:16
Speaker 1: my rock. I probably would not be sitting here today
36:19
Speaker 1: alive if it wasn't for that man. But let me
36:22
Speaker 1: tell you, he tried to hire somebody to kill me
36:27
Speaker 1: or one of my kids or my grandkids. Guess what
36:31
Speaker 1: he gone he is out on that curb faster than
36:35
Speaker 1: you can say jimmity cricket. Okay, So just saying Karan
36:41
Speaker 1: was seven years old at the time he disappeared, and
36:44
Speaker 1: like I said, he was last scene wearing a CSI shirt.
36:48
Speaker 1: Now I have his photo pulled up here, and I
36:54
Speaker 1: am gonna attempt to be all snazzy like JT and
36:58
Speaker 1: share my screen. I don't know if it's going to work,
37:02
Speaker 1: but let's see because I want y'all to see this
37:04
Speaker 1: cute little boy. In case you haven't heard of this case,
37:09
Speaker 1: share screen, share screen with two monitors. Okay, I'm doing this.
37:16
Speaker 1: Let's see if I'm doing this right. Okay, guys, can
37:25
Speaker 1: y'all see his missing person flyer? Look at this cutie?
37:30
Speaker 1: But tuty, this is an age progression that was done
37:34
Speaker 1: saying what they think he would look like in twenty
37:36
Speaker 1: twenty two. This is the photo taken the day of
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Speaker 1: the Science Fare.
37:45
Speaker 2: But look at this freaking cuty, Cuty, Cuty.
37:50
Speaker 1: Okay, look at that cutie. Now, guys, when I said
37:58
Speaker 1: it gets crazier, the stepmom took that picture of him
38:02
Speaker 1: in front of the Science project and posted it on
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Speaker 1: Facebook around one Now, she said she was driving around
38:11
Speaker 1: their daughter that she had with Kirine's dad, trying to
38:16
Speaker 1: get to soothe her because she had an ear infection.
38:19
Speaker 1: I will tell you I never put my child in
38:22
Speaker 1: a car to drive them around with an ear infection
38:26
Speaker 1: and then go to work out at the gym and
38:29
Speaker 1: take your child to the gym daycare to work out.
38:32
Speaker 1: Who has an ear infection? Why would you go work out?
38:34
Speaker 1: Why would you go to the grocery store. Why didn't
38:36
Speaker 1: you take your butt home? Anyway, but she told police
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Speaker 1: all about her activities. All of her time has been
38:45
Speaker 1: accounted for. Uh oh, guys, can y'all still see me?
38:49
Speaker 1: I don't think I did the screen share right, But
38:52
Speaker 1: can y'all see me at least hopefully If not, let
38:57
Speaker 1: me know, I will put it in the discord or Angie,
39:02
Speaker 1: I'll send it to you if you can put it
39:03
Speaker 1: in discord, because let's all remember, I am discord illiterate,
39:07
Speaker 1: but I am trying, Okay. I did look to see
39:10
Speaker 1: if there was a dummy skuide, and I didn't find
39:13
Speaker 1: a dummy skuide, but I did find some videos. But anyway,
39:18
Speaker 1: they could account for all of her activity except for
39:22
Speaker 1: between ten in the morning and eleven thirty nine. Okay,
39:28
Speaker 1: here's where it gets crazy. It was reported by multiple
39:34
Speaker 1: people that there was a second person inside of Terry's
39:39
Speaker 1: car the morning she took Hier into school for the
39:43
Speaker 1: science fair. Okay, that person was sitting in the car
39:46
Speaker 1: while she went in. To this day, that second person
39:51
Speaker 1: has not been identified. Okay, it gets worse, guys, I
40:01
Speaker 1: will still share my thoughts. Kuren's mom, Desiree, said that
40:07
Speaker 1: Terry hated Kyen okay, and blamed him for her marital
40:13
Speaker 1: issues with kin. Kyron's dad. Now, when Terry's dad yes,
40:19
Speaker 1: Bunny Boyler, Terry's dad asked if he thought his daughter
40:23
Speaker 1: could hurt Kyron or be involved. He said there was
40:27
Speaker 1: a fifty to fifty chance. Guys, her dad says there's
40:33
Speaker 1: a fifty to fifty chance. I mean, come on now.
40:38
Speaker 1: Police showed Kyen's mom Desireate emails that Bunny Boyler Terry
40:43
Speaker 1: had sent to a family member weeks before Kuren's disappearance
40:48
Speaker 1: and after that.
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Speaker 2: She said she.
40:50
Speaker 1: Truly believes that Terry is capable of hurting Kyroen, apparently
40:55
Speaker 1: Terry's words in the emails. They would not share the
40:58
Speaker 1: exact emails with the public showed that she had a
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Speaker 1: severe hatred for Kyen, and they said the words were
41:10
Speaker 1: so horrible that everyone believes she could have hurt him.
41:17
Speaker 2: Okay.
41:18
Speaker 1: Police have publicly said that they have probable cause to
41:22
Speaker 1: think Terry was involved in his disappearance. They do not
41:27
Speaker 1: have enough evidence to arrest her. Guys, I'm gonna say
41:34
Speaker 1: it again, somebody out there knows something. There is no
41:40
Speaker 1: way this Bunny Boiler kept her mouth shut. She talked
41:44
Speaker 1: to somebody. Okay, somebody needs to come forward. Karen's dad, Kane,
41:51
Speaker 1: did divorce Terry and he got full custody of the
41:54
Speaker 1: daughter he shared with Bunny Boiler, and she gets supervised visitation.
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Speaker 1: That tells you police have very good probable cause. Courts
42:05
Speaker 1: would not make supervised visitation against the daughter if she
42:09
Speaker 1: had never done anything to the daughter. It had to
42:12
Speaker 1: be because there's good evidence. I mean, to this day,
42:17
Speaker 1: Kiren has not been found. Okay, in this case drives
42:22
Speaker 1: me crazy because no one just disappears. And with the
42:27
Speaker 1: information I've read online and back in the beginning, I
42:31
Speaker 1: always thought Bunny boiler stepmom was involved, and to this day,
42:38
Speaker 1: I still think she was involved. I don't know if
42:43
Speaker 1: she's the one who actually killed him. We don't know
42:45
Speaker 1: that he's deceased. I'm going to assume he is. My
42:49
Speaker 1: thoughts are she took him to that science fair, took pictures,
42:55
Speaker 1: then she left with him. No one else saw him
42:59
Speaker 1: in the hallway walking. He was seen at the science fair.
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Speaker 1: He wasn't seen after that. She could have walked him out.
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Speaker 2: To the car. Oh, we forgot to get this in
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Speaker 2: the car. Took you to the car. Something.
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Speaker 1: Somehow she and that other person in the car got
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Speaker 1: Kiren out of that school and into the car. She
43:21
Speaker 1: maybe sold him into trafficking. I don't know. Most likely
43:25
Speaker 1: she did something horrific to him. I want to implore
43:30
Speaker 1: anyone that has information about this to please come forward,
43:36
Speaker 1: because karma's gonna get Terry. I believe in good karma.
43:40
Speaker 1: I believe in karma. She called get hers and if
43:46
Speaker 1: you know something and you don't tell, you'll go and
43:49
Speaker 1: get yours. Okay, And there you can call and report
43:57
Speaker 1: any information. You can also submit it to the FBI.
44:01
Speaker 1: I would say submit to the FBI the Portland Field
44:04
Speaker 1: Office for this case. But I want to say on
44:09
Speaker 1: a record, I think she had something to do with it,
44:12
Speaker 1: and my heart breaks for desiree in Kin because Kane
44:19
Speaker 1: married this woman. I mean, you marry her, you think
44:22
Speaker 1: your son's safe with her, and find out she was
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Speaker 1: trying to kill you because you weren't getting along with her.
44:29
Speaker 1: Then she takes a picture of your son at a
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Speaker 1: science fair. She's the last one to see. She posted
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Speaker 1: on face everything she was to say. Oh look I'm
44:42
Speaker 1: a good step mom. Okay, no you're not, lady. You
44:45
Speaker 1: are a scumback. You are a piece of dirt. And
44:49
Speaker 1: I'm going to say, miss Terry Bunny Boiler, I'm going
44:52
Speaker 1: to put you up there with Addis Singerea and Matt
44:54
Speaker 1: Brewer from the Chase Lackey case. Y'all all going to
44:58
Speaker 1: get yours. So I hope the family can get the information,
45:07
Speaker 1: and I hope karma gets her and whoever else was involved.
45:11
Speaker 1: But I at the end of the day, hope his
45:14
Speaker 1: family gets the answers that they deserve, and then I
45:18
Speaker 1: hope they get justice. I hope, I mean I hope she.
45:24
Speaker 1: I hope she gets whatever's the worst commra you could
45:27
Speaker 1: have somebody get. So that's all I got today. I
45:32
Speaker 1: want to thank you all for joining me. I look
45:35
Speaker 1: forward to seeing you all again next Monday for our
45:37
Speaker 1: next episode of Midday Missing. I have gotten medical meds
45:43
Speaker 1: and fusion stuff, so I should be good for the
45:48
Speaker 1: upcoming months coming into summer and have less flare ups
45:52
Speaker 1: or pseudo flare ups, which is exciting. So shouldn't have
45:57
Speaker 1: to miss. But I thank you all for your patients.
45:59
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46:08
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