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Birth Control Dangers EXPOSED on 'Call Her Daddy' Pod (Ep.218) · V

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  Speaker 1: I will tickle you internally.
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  Speaker 2: And I see nothing wrong with that.
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  Speaker 1: I see nothing wrong with that.
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  Speaker 2: Psalm 11.3, when the foundations are being destroyed, what can
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  Speaker 2: the righteous do? What can we do? They told us
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  Speaker 2: the election was fair when intelligence agencies and social media
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  Speaker 2: giants buried the Hunter Biden laptop scandal.
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  Speaker 3: That could have changed everything.
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  Speaker 2: They called it foreign disinformation, knowing full well that it
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  Speaker 2: was real. For years, they bullied social media companies into
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  Speaker 2: silencing wrong think on a whole host of topics, They
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  Speaker 2: stole from us the truth, the First Amendment, and with
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  Speaker 2: it the power of an informed people. They opened the
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  Speaker 2: floodgates at the border, millions pouring in legally and illegally
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  Speaker 2: while calling it compassion, but it was never about mercy.
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  Speaker 2: It was about replacement, a slow erosion of sovereignty, a
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  Speaker 2: deliberate dilution of culture, because the divided people forget who
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  Speaker 2: they are and cannot punish those who have betrayed them.
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  Speaker 2: They turned Americans into serfs in our own land, gave
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  Speaker 2: away our jobs to H-1B visa holders, and told us
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  Speaker 2: it was about skills and innovation when it was really
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  Speaker 2: billion-dollar companies just wanting cheap, obedient labor. They sold us out,
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  Speaker 2: our industry, to China, hollowed out our towns, turned proud
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  Speaker 2: working men into addicts, and told us this is the
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  Speaker 2: price of progress. We didn't just lose factories We lost purpose.
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  Speaker 2: We lost dignity. Under the gospel of climate, they tell
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  Speaker 2: us we must sacrifice more. No gas stoves, no farms,
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  Speaker 2: no cars, just cold homes and empty wallets while they
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  Speaker 2: eat steak and fly private and toast their carbon-neutral empires
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  Speaker 2: from yachts. The suffering is never shared, just the slogans.
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  Speaker 2: And yet they tell us to trust them, just like
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  Speaker 2: they told us to trust them in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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  Speaker 2: 20 years, thousands of American lives, trillions of dollars, and
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  Speaker 2: for what? Weapons of mass destruction that never existed, nation-building
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  Speaker 2: fantasies that never stood a chance. They sent our sons
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  Speaker 2: and daughters to die in deserts while defense contractors and
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  Speaker 2: the revolving door of generals and admirals and Pentagon officials
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  Speaker 2: and lawmakers got rich off the bloodshed. Then they left,
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  Speaker 2: left our people, our allies, our weapons in the dead
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  Speaker 2: of night and still They had the gall to call
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  Speaker 2: it all a success. In 2020, then they lit the match.
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  Speaker 2: They watched cities burn and called it justice. They cheered
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  Speaker 2: while statues of our founders fell in our cities, burned,
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  Speaker 2: torched by mobs who knew nothing. They strip us, hollow us,
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  Speaker 2: use us, and dare to say it's for our own good.
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  Speaker 2: But what cuts the deepest is that we trusted them.
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  Speaker 2: We believed in the handshake. We saluted the flag. We
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  Speaker 2: played by the rules. And in return, We were mocked, defrauded, abused.
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  Speaker 2: That's the real betrayal, not just the money, not even
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  Speaker 2: the jobs. It's the trust that was broken. For generations,
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  Speaker 2: Americans really believed in something, the promise of our founders,
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  Speaker 2: informed by the Christian tradition, institutions, leadership, the so-called American dream,
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  Speaker 2: created by a nation of settlers with a vision for
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  Speaker 2: a free country. But their sacrifice has been destroyed. Their descendants,
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  Speaker 2: you and me, have been used, fed to a machine.
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  Speaker 2: Elections were sacred until they weren't. The border was secure
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  Speaker 2: until it wasn't. The government worked for us until it
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  Speaker 2: fully weaponized itself against us. How do you trust a
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  Speaker 2: system that betrays you with a straight face? Chesterton said,
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  Speaker 2: a man who won't believe in God will believe in anything.
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  Speaker 2: I think the inverse is also true. A man who
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  Speaker 2: puts his trust in false gods, corporate goods, corporate gods,
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  Speaker 2: political gods, institutional gods, will do anything. There's no line
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  Speaker 2: that won't be crossed. Our leaders have sold us out
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  Speaker 2: to false gods. That national motto, when God we trust,
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  Speaker 2: it was abandoned a long time ago. Look at the
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  Speaker 2: people who run this place. Academic institutions that have abandoned
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  Speaker 2: the pursuit of truth because they're more interested in fueling
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  Speaker 2: Marxist race hatred. our entertainment industry compromised by evil men
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  Speaker 2: like Diddy, our political class compromised by evil men like Epstein.
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  Speaker 2: And when you realize that those who preached responsibility had none,
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  Speaker 2: that those who demanded loyalty had no honor, that those
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  Speaker 2: who sat in judgment were the most corrupt of all,
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  Speaker 2: then what? Solzhenitsyn once said, the line dividing good and
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  Speaker 2: evil cuts through the heart of every human being. But
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  Speaker 2: in this world, it feels like that line's been bulldozed.
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  Speaker 2: And what we're left with is power without conscience, leadership
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  Speaker 2: without soul, promise without truth. I think truly what we
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  Speaker 2: all want is to believe again, to live in a
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  Speaker 2: country where trust isn't a liability, virtue isn't for fools.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe that vision is gone. Maybe it never even existed.
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  Speaker 2: But we live in a fallen world. And sometimes things
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  Speaker 2: seem pretty dark. I think I'm a natural pessimist. But
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  Speaker 2: I think God also blessed me by surrounding me by
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  Speaker 2: many optimists, people who always encouraged me to be happy,
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  Speaker 2: to be a happy warrior. And we have to be
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  Speaker 2: happy warriors because this world is not perfect. It is fallen.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be disappointing. But there are always simple
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  Speaker 2: joys in life to soak in. Smell of rain, watching
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  Speaker 2: my dog zoom around in circles, being just over the
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  Speaker 2: moon to be at the lake, sipping my lavender matcha
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  Speaker 2: after work. watching my husband teach my little brother to
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  Speaker 2: ice skate, my little sister's joy when I curl their hair,
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  Speaker 2: long phone calls with my mom, brand new unused tennis balls,
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  Speaker 2: getting eight hours of sleep, we could all use that,
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  Speaker 2: golden hour, fresh canvas to paint on. Life every single
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  Speaker 2: day is peppered with a lot of simple joys. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it can be bleak, but it's also not our final destination.
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  Speaker 2: And that's a beautiful thing to think about too. My
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  Speaker 2: favorite professor who we've had on the show, Professor Rachel Fulton-Browne,
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  Speaker 2: always says that in the greatest story ever told, the
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  Speaker 2: story of everything, the divine narrative, we already know who
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  Speaker 2: wins in the end. So there's nothing to fear. All right,
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  Speaker 2: I want to bring in Newsmax contributor and host of
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  Speaker 2: Underreported Stories, my good friend Chrissy Clark. Chrissy, thank you
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  Speaker 2: so much for being here.
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  Speaker 3: Horace, good morning.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning. I have a lot of culture stories that
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  Speaker 2: I want to get with you today. I hope that
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the show will be kind of fun
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  Speaker 2: because we don't always get to cover this stuff on
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  Speaker 2: the show. I kind of get a little down. That's
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  Speaker 2: what my intro is about. Sometimes I get a little
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  Speaker 2: bit down with just the sad parts of the news cycle.
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  Speaker 2: And there are a lot of sad things. But there
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  Speaker 2: are a lot of culture stories that I think can
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  Speaker 2: be also very entertaining to cover. And one of them
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  Speaker 2: is what's happening right now with Alex Cooper. She is,
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  Speaker 2: of course, the host of the Call Her Daddy podcast.
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  Speaker 2: And originally, this podcast, I was not a fan of it.
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  Speaker 2: I never was. But originally, this podcast was kind of
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  Speaker 2: a sex advice podcast. And Alex slept around, and she
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  Speaker 2: talked a lot about her various sexual escapades. Recently, she's
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  Speaker 2: gotten married, though. She started interviewing celebrities more. Her podcast
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  Speaker 2: is still huge, one of the biggest podcasts in the country,
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  Speaker 2: especially among young women. And she had this episode this week, Chrissy,
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  Speaker 2: talking about how birth control has affected her ability to
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  Speaker 2: have a child. And this is her describing when she
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  Speaker 2: went off the pill, what happened. Take a listen to this.
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  Speaker 1: I started to experience extreme vertigo and dizziness. I would
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  Speaker 1: be in interviews about to pass out. I started breaking
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  Speaker 1: out like crazy. I felt awful 24-7 and it was frustrating.
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  Speaker 4: At the same time, Alex says her career was taking
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  Speaker 4: off and she started to have doubts if she was
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  Speaker 4: ready for the commitment of a baby on top of
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  Speaker 4: her busy work life. Telling Matt about her thoughts, Alex says.
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  Speaker 1: I remember I'm like going on and on and on
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  Speaker 1: like I do. And that Matt literally like grabbed me
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  Speaker 1: and like put me on his lap. And he was like,
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  Speaker 1: look at me. Oh my God, I'm going to cry.
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  Speaker 1: He was like, look at me. Alex, how long have
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  Speaker 1: you been carrying this? He was like, I love you
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  Speaker 1: so much. When it is the right time, it will
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  Speaker 1: be the right time.
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  Speaker 2: Chrissy, I saw this and just thought about all the
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  Speaker 2: girls I know in my life who have been on
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  Speaker 2: birth control. I fortunately never was on it. I never
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  Speaker 2: have been, never will be. Because, I mean, just it's
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  Speaker 2: a massive health risk for this reason. But can you imagine, like,
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  Speaker 2: there are so many women who have been on this
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  Speaker 2: pill and have had these kind of effects. And we're
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  Speaker 2: constantly told that it's totally safe. Don't worry about it.
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  Speaker 2: And you should be on it to mitigate period cramps
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  Speaker 2: from the age of, like, 13.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I know that from personal experience, unfortunately, that
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  Speaker 5: a similar story to what Alex went through is what
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  Speaker 5: I went through. Now, I've been incredibly fortunate to have
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  Speaker 5: the financial backing to overcome a lot of those problems
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  Speaker 5: that come with getting off of birth control because what
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  Speaker 5: she mentioned weren't just things that kind of go away
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  Speaker 5: with time. Of course, they go away with a prolonged
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  Speaker 5: period of time, three to seven years.
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  Speaker 3: On average. But if you're talking about.
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  Speaker 5: chronic cystic acne, which is what happened to me when
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  Speaker 5: I got off of birth control. I was spending money
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  Speaker 5: to go and get chemical peels on my face to
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  Speaker 5: expedite the process of getting my skin back to how
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  Speaker 5: it looks now. There are so many things that she
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  Speaker 5: comes from and she's able to talk about. And of course,
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  Speaker 5: they're natural. This is what happens when you put synthetic
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  Speaker 5: hormones into your body for years and years and years.
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  Speaker 5: But then she's sitting there with her beautiful skin and
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  Speaker 5: she's so thin and she is, love her or And
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  Speaker 5: then for her to get there and say, like, I
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  Speaker 5: got through it. Well, you're not really talking about all
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  Speaker 5: the things that helped get you there, right? Because I
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  Speaker 5: know what it takes. I know what it went through
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  Speaker 5: and it took having, you know, functional doctors that you
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  Speaker 5: had to be able to do the research. You had
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  Speaker 5: to have a flexible enough job where you could leave
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  Speaker 5: the office to go to.
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  Speaker 3: Those appointments in the middle of the day. You had
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  Speaker 3: to be able to, you know.
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  Speaker 5: pay hundreds of dollars for these supplements in order to
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  Speaker 5: get your hormones aligned quicker than if you let it
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  Speaker 5: happen naturally. Again, like the face, all the things that
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  Speaker 5: come to getting your body back from birth control, again,
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  Speaker 5: that's just not talked about. And so I'm like, I'm
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  Speaker 5: here for partial transparency, but again, I do feel like
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  Speaker 5: it is incredibly partial given what I, at least I
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  Speaker 5: went through and what other friends have gone through going
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  Speaker 5: off of this. But, you know, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 5: put all of this on Alex Cooper, of course. This
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  Speaker 5: comes from the medical industry that should be telling us
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  Speaker 5: that these are the consequences of what happens when you
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  Speaker 5: get on birth control, right? I was put on it
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  Speaker 5: on my very first cycle of my life, and I
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  Speaker 5: was on it until I was like 24. four years
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  Speaker 5: old until I met my husband. And so that was
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  Speaker 5: a really difficult thing getting off of it because your
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  Speaker 5: body has become accustomed to it. And you know what's
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  Speaker 5: really crazy about it, Evita, is this didn't just happen
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  Speaker 5: to me, it happened to so many women that I know,
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  Speaker 5: is your levels, your hormone levels then become so out
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  Speaker 5: of whack that you'll go in and you'll talk to
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  Speaker 5: your doctors and they'll say, yeah, it looks like you
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  Speaker 5: might be infertile.
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  Speaker 3: You might not be able.
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  Speaker 5: So then you're just stoking a fear-mongering among a generation
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  Speaker 5: of young women who think that they're infertile. They're unable
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  Speaker 5: to have children.
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  Speaker 3: And I think.
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  Speaker 5: Part of that, not all of it, part of this
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  Speaker 5: comes from the social constructs that you see on social media,
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  Speaker 5: but a lot of people are wondering, why are so
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  Speaker 5: many young women freezing their eggs? And I'm like, it's
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  Speaker 5: because they were on birth control. Their hormone levels take
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  Speaker 5: years and years and years to rebalance themselves if they
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  Speaker 5: don't have like... the time and money in order to
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  Speaker 5: spend to get those levels back to normal. And then
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  Speaker 5: on top of it, they're being told by doctors that
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  Speaker 5: they're infertile because those hormone levels are not accurate.
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  Speaker 3: Now, that's not true for everybody.
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  Speaker 5: There are a lot, a lot, a lot of people
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  Speaker 5: who get off of birth control and are able to
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  Speaker 5: conceive within a month. I'm just saying that's not the norm.
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  Speaker 5: The norm seems to be that it takes months for
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  Speaker 5: your body to readjust after years and years and years.
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  Speaker 3: Of hormonal birth control.
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  Speaker 5: But that would be my quick synopsis on Alex Cooper's
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  Speaker 5: birth control portion of that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Christy, I mean, it's fascinating to me because there seems
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  Speaker 2: to be in the medical industry and culturally certain sacred
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  Speaker 2: cows that you aren't allowed to question. And that's especially
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  Speaker 2: true when it comes to reproductive freedom, as they'll say.
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  Speaker 2: So things like birth control, abortion, the abortion pill, especially
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  Speaker 2: we are not transparent with women about the risks that
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  Speaker 2: come with these treatments and they end up being blindsided
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  Speaker 2: when suddenly they're struggling with infertility after coming off the
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  Speaker 2: pill or they take the abortion pill and they are
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  Speaker 2: in excruciating pain to the point of passing out for
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  Speaker 2: God knows how long. I mean, this is what women
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  Speaker 2: are dealing with, and they are never given the full picture.
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  Speaker 2: And this is on purpose for political purposes because we
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  Speaker 2: are so obsessed with protecting the reproductive freedom of women
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  Speaker 2: to the point where we're lying to women about the
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  Speaker 2: risks here. Something else that Alex Cooper said Chrissy that
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  Speaker 2: I found fascinating was she was like, and I don't,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if that was included in this clip,
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  Speaker 2: but she expands on it a lot more in the
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  Speaker 2: rest of the podcast. She says, I'm, I'm, you know, I'm,
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  Speaker 2: I'm 30. I don't want to have kids right now.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I thought I did, but now I've
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  Speaker 2: gone through this, this infertility period after getting off the
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  Speaker 2: birth control pill. So I think I need more time
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  Speaker 2: and I have more time. And she goes into the
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  Speaker 2: spiel about how women shouldn't feel any pressure for when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to their biological clock And I thought, well,
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  Speaker 2: is that true? Is it true that we should not
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  Speaker 2: feel any kind of pressure due to our biological clock?
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  Speaker 2: And I mean, it obviously exists. So why is somebody
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  Speaker 2: like Alex Cooper telling this to young women when it's objectively.
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  Speaker 3: False, Chrissy?
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  Speaker 5: There's a partial truth to what she's saying in that
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  Speaker 5: modern science has made it possible for those kind of
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  Speaker 5: things to happen in your late 30s and early 40s.
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  Speaker 5: But that doesn't mean that it's not considered a high-risk pregnancy,
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  Speaker 5: that your experience with pregnancy isn't going to be a
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  Speaker 5: little bit more difficult than if you were doing it
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  Speaker 5: at a younger age.
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  Speaker 2: Or you do surrogacy, but that's very expensive. Maybe Alex
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  Speaker 2: Cooper can afford surrogacy, but I can't.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 5: Right. No, that's why I'm saying this is like a
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  Speaker 5: partial truth in that, of course, there are options, but
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  Speaker 5: for the vast majority of people who don't have access
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  Speaker 5: to millions and millions of dollars like Alex Cooper does,
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  Speaker 5: you know, it's not a viable option or a lot
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  Speaker 5: of people are then seeking IVF, which I know can
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  Speaker 5: cost upwards of $ 13, 000, I think, at a minimum.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's not a reality.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, the real reality is that your most fertile
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  Speaker 5: years are between the ages of 22 and I believe 31.
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  Speaker 5: And from there, you have a steep decline in egg
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  Speaker 5: production and whatnot. We already see that people are waiting
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  Speaker 5: longer and longer to have families. And I will say
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  Speaker 5: I'm a little bit more of a happy warrior type
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  Speaker 5: and a... I'm not the kind of person that's telling
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  Speaker 5: everybody like, you must do it this way or you're
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  Speaker 5: doing it wrong. But I do believe that it is
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  Speaker 5: a lie to tell people that you're still going to
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  Speaker 5: have no problem getting pregnant. It's going to be totally
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  Speaker 5: easy for you when you're 37 years old in comparison
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  Speaker 5: to maybe 28 years old.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's a lie. It's an abject lie to
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  Speaker 3: tell people.
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  Speaker 5: It's going to be easier in your early to mid
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  Speaker 5: to late 20s and early 30s than it is going
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  Speaker 5: to be in your late 30s.
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  Speaker 3: And it's not to say women don't do it or
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  Speaker 3: women can't do it.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like I have to go ad nauseum to
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  Speaker 5: not trigger freaking everybody in the world. But it's true.
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  Speaker 5: It's just they're simple biological facts. And I think that's
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  Speaker 5: what's really difficult about consuming this kind of content from
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  Speaker 5: people who are incredibly.
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  Speaker 3: out of touch financially with the rest of the world.
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  Speaker 5: Alex Cooper is not the average person. If she wants
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  Speaker 5: a surrogate, if she wants to do IVF, if she
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  Speaker 5: wants to do IUI, if she wants to freeze her eggs,
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  Speaker 5: that's not a problem financially for her.
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  Speaker 3: She can just go and do that.
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  Speaker 5: And so even if that was a problem to her
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  Speaker 5: moral convictions, which I don't think it would be, she'll
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  Speaker 5: find a way to get it done. That's not normal
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  Speaker 5: for everybody else.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, to me, I think at the bare minimum,
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  Speaker 2: there should just be transparency and honesty with women when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to the risks, when it comes to what
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  Speaker 2: biology is like for women and the timeline that we have,
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  Speaker 2: and what will be the risks if you take another
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  Speaker 2: route like surrogacy or IVF. I mean, personally, there are
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people with religious problems, but there are
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  Speaker 2: even just objective considerations to take into account that are
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  Speaker 2: irrespective of your faith beliefs. So I think we, as
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  Speaker 2: Gen Z women, millennials, millennial women, Chrissy, have really poor
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  Speaker 2: examples in the culture for ourselves, for other women our age.
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  Speaker 2: One of these young, famous women, other than Alex Cooper,
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  Speaker 2: is Sydney Sweeney. She's an actress. She's basically, I would say,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: this generation's Marilyn Monroe. Men in America seem to have
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: all come to the consensus that she is the hottest
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: person in the country. And at one point, the internet
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: actually dubbed Sydney Sweeney's boobs as anti-woke. Because suddenly the
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: national attention was on a very hot woman and not
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: someone pretending to be a woman. So recently, Sydney Sweeney
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: decided to release a limited edition soap made with water
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: from her own bath. And she partnered with natural body
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: care brand Dr.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Squatch.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Is that how you pronounce it, Mikey?
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Okay. I guess it's a men's brand. to produce Sydney's
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Bathwater Bliss, and it's priced at around $ 8 a bar.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: I'm going to play for you, Chrissy, an ad for
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Body Wash that Sydney did with this company a while back.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: It's different from the bar of soap, but it gives
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: you a feel of what is being sold here. Take
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: a listen.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Hello, you dirty little boys.
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: Are you interested in my body wash?
• 18:49
  Speaker 7: Well, you can't have it.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Because this isn't for boys, it's for men. This is Dr.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Squatch Natural Body Wash. With long-lasting natural aromas.
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: Like wood barrel bourbon, pine tar, coconut castaway, and fresh falls,
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: you'll finally get the attention you deserve. So go to drsquatch.com
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: today and quit being a dirty little boy.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: All right, so Chrissy, the TikTok consensus among Gen Z
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: women is that this has set us back many, many years.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Your thoughts, Chrissy?
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: I do not like to proclaim myself as a girl's girl.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: And I don't think that Sydney Sweeney would call herself
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: that either. And that's why it's triggering so many people,
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: which is kind of funny because it's always the girls
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: that dub themselves.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: I'm the girl's girl. I fight for other women.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: They're the meanest people on the internet and they're constantly
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: attacking other women. I don't blindly support people because of
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: their genitalia or because what is on their chest.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: But that is not how I, live my life. I
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: go and I support people based on who they are
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: and their moral characteristics. And I think that Sydney Sweeney
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: seems to have those same standards. And therefore, the feminist
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: community goes against her because she sits there and she
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: does things that are good for her pocketbook, regardless of
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: whether they're good for, you know, feminism, quote unquote. Real
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: feminism is actually just, you know, being a good person,
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: being a good wife, being overall good for society. I
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: don't know if Sydney Sweeney falls into that category, but
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: she certainly doesn't fall into this feminist category either. So
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: she kind of is in nomad land, but we only
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: see this as her public persona, right?
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: We don't know what she's like behind closed doors.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: I know that she's undergoing publicly ending a why I'm
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: in engagement. But other than that, we don't know what
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: her personal life is like. She could very well be
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: doing all of this as a means to an end
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: to have a very traditional life one day. So we
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: don't know that. All we do know is that she's
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: not a feminist loser. And so I'm kind of on.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Board with it.
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: I know it's hyper-sexualized and people have a problem with
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: that and that's totally fine.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to judge you for believing that.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: But at the same time, I just don't, she doesn't
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: like irk me the way I think she irks a
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: lot of other feminists.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say I'm not irked by her. I'm
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: not bothered by her. And I think certainly not for
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: the same reason that the feminists on TikTok are upset
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: about this. I will just say that I'm not sure
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: anybody's boobs can be considered anti-woke. This is what has
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: become of conservatism today. And I think being a conservative
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: woman doesn't mean just simply being a woman and like
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: conservatism isn't just defined by, oh, okay, well, we actually
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: have a biological female here on display. And so therefore
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: this is conservative. I think that there's something deeper to
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: that word. There's something deeper to traditional values than that.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: And so, and there's also a beauty in mystery in
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: not selling bath water or feet pics online. And so
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: something about this ad campaign, it felt very weird and,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: and OnlyFans-esque to me that I felt was regressive and
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: actually sort of feminist in a sexual revolution way. And
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: so I find it bizarre and I think maybe a
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: testament to how confused a lot of right-wingers are today
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: that we are embracing someone like Sidney Sweeney as, oh,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: she's anti-woke simply because she happens to be a woman,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: but actually is embracing a lot of the sexual liberation,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: sexual revolution ideals of the feminist movement itself. So Something
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: to think about. And again, there's going to be examples
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: of this that continue to come up as we're grappling
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: with this idea of what does it mean to be
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: a woman? What is a woman? And what does it
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: mean to be a traditionalist in this day and age
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: when there's so much upheaval in who we are as
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: a party? What does MAGA mean? What does Republican mean
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: as the lines are getting blurred? So something I think
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: we're going to be continually talking about. I want to
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: talk to you also, Chrissy, about this Times of London
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: profile that came out recently. They did a profile on
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Bannon War Room co-host Natalie Winters, who we've had her
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: on the show. She's very based. She's very talented. She
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: was my former classmate at Chicago. The piece is titled
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: My Night Out with Trump's Young MAGA Crowd in Washington.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: The article is pretty great. I'd suggest everybody read it.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: But one specific quote has been going kind of viral online, Chrissy.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Natalie said in the piece, I think most men... are
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: gay in DC, either out or closeted, depending on whether
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: they're Democrats or Republicans. I want to marry someone who
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: allows me to protect my feminine energy in a world
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: that is forcing me to be a girl boss because
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: they keep sending Steve to prison. First of all, Chrissy,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever lived in DC. I
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: have not lived in DC. Are all the men gay there?
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: I have lived there for two years and let me
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: tell you, there is something inherently beta about men.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: I don't know what it is.
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: It's just like, it's not even, and I don't actually
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: think it's a partisan thing. I think you see it
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: more on the left than you do on the right,
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: but there's just something inherently super weenie about men who
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: think that their low level job as a comm staffer
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: on Capitol Hill means that they're like the next thing
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: next to God.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: It's the lamest thing. I'm like, We need some relativity.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: You get so inside this D.C., New York corridor where
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: you kind of think the whole world revolves around what's
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: going on in D.C. and New York, and you forget
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: that the rest of the country literally has no clue
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: who you are and doesn't care at all.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Well, Christy, it's fascinating because I think maybe D.C. is
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: especially bad, but I think that this is a trend
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: in all major blue cities. There's just no real men anymore.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: And it is very slim pickings for women. And I
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: think that there are not a lot of amazing women
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: out there either. I mean, we're a generation that's deeply irreligious.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: We have a lot of problems. It's true. We're all
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: anxious and depressed, as the older generations will say about us.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: It's the damn phones. But I will say that there
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: was this time I went on a double date with
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: a friend of mine. And she's a conservative. But her
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: boyfriend at the time, they're not together anymore, but her
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: boyfriend at the time was a liberal. And I was
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: dating my now husband. He, of course, at the end
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: of the meal paid for my meal because he's my
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: boyfriend and we just went out on a double date.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: And so he paid for me, as he always does.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: And she had to split the check with her liberal boyfriend.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: And again, she's a conservative. And I think that was
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: a little bit of a wake-up call for her. But
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: she was just like, well, this is what he expected
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: us to do. And to me, I think there is
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: a real shift in what's expected of men, how men
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: treat women And I wonder how much birth control has
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: played a role in this too, Chrissy, because it makes
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: women more attracted to beta men. Maybe we're encouraging that.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know. But there seems to be a real
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: problem in the dating sphere.
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's twofold in my opinion. Part of it is that, yes,
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: men and women are growing up with very radically different
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: standards for one another, and they're not comparable when they
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: come to meet each other in person after they get
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: off of a dating app or when they go on
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: their first or second date. And so what I've noticed
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: with my friends who are dating and what I feel
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: I got right when I was dating was I prefer
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: to over... That has been, I think, the lost art
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: of this generation is that we don't communicate. We just
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: expect people to read our minds. And that's setting yourself
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: up for failure in every single category, whether you're dating, engaged,
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: or married. And I think plenty of people in your
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: audience can know that your wife can't read your mind
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: or your husband can't read your mind. That's not how
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: life works. And that's what goes awry in the dating scene.
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: If your friend had had a conversation and said, hey,
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: after we split the bill, hey, in the future, I
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: really do expect for you to pay for my meals.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: That was embarrassing to me. This is why I really
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: want to have traditional gender roles and blah, blah, blah.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: You know, Those conversations, opening those up and being able
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: to move forward or know that that's not going to
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: happen because this was like some beta liberal guy, that's
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: just kind of lost completely in dating. I see time
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: and time again my girlfriends who go on dates with
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: wonderful guys and they're wonderful girls. And they're like, well,
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: he didn't do this, so I'm just kicking him to
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: the curb. Like did you even have a conversation with
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: him or did you even have a conversation with her
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: about it? So when I think about the dating pool,
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: I just think it's a little bit more nuanced than
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: like all the boys are bad or all the girls
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: are hoes or whatever the saying is on X. I
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: think people have lost the art of communication because we
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: can just do it and hide behind a screen. No,
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: like man up, have a conversation or woman up. Have
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: a conversation with the person and try to resolve the issues.
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: And if you can't resolve the issues or that person's
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: not a good communicator or you don't seek to grow
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: in communication with this person.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: That's when you cut ties.
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: But we've just become such a transactional society that I
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: don't blame people for thinking that things should be otherwise.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: But I didn't just snap my fingers and my husband
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: was my husband, who he is now.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: We grew together. We learned to communicate together. It took time.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: It just didn't happen overnight.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: And I think that's what people are expecting in the
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: transactional dating world.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Christy, it's fascinating because we are in a hyper-connected world.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: We are in a world where communication is allegedly anything.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I can call someone up on the other side of
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: the world and we can have a full-on conversation, and
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: yet we are failing to actually communicate in an authentic,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: seamless way. There's a loneliness epidemic at the same time.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: It's like these devices that are supposed to make us
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: feel super communicative with everybody anywhere have actually inhibited our
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: ability to connect with others and to form real relationships.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: It's truly sad. And you're right, it's not male or
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: female specific. This is just what modernity has done to
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: men and women. We covered on the show earlier this week,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Tomi Lahren, who went on Laura Ingraham's show. And I
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: don't not like Tomi Lahren, but she essentially blamed men
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: for what's happening in the dating sphere. And you can't
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: put the blame on either or. It's just kind of
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: silly to do that. It's just, this is the generation.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: And there's a quote on TikTok and on Instagram that
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: people repeatedly say, if you're an older person and you're
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: married already and you're looking at the dating scene, it
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: feels like you caught the last chopper out of Nam
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: because it's just so bad these days. And I think
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: part of the problem, Christy, is that people aren't marrying young.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Like people are delaying for a really long time and
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: you don't have that time to grow together, as you said, Christy.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: You get stuck in your ways and entrenched in your habits.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: And you can't teach an old dog new tricks. It
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: becomes really difficult when you get married and start delaying
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: and wait till older age. So something to think about
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: I also want to talk to you about what is
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: happening in the military right now, because I don't want
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: to be all doom and gloom, Chrissy. There is a
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: vibe shift underway. I've talked about it. You have talked
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: about it. So has Haley, of course, on Nightly Scroll.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Defense Secretary Pete Hexeth, this week, he ordered the Navy
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: to strike the name of gay rights activist Harvey Milk
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: from one of its ships. I guess the Navy had
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: been naming ships after left-wing sexual orientation activists for some reason.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: And this comes just before we learned yesterday that the U.S.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Army has reached its active duty recruiting goals for fiscal
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: year 2025, four months ahead of schedule, signing contracts with 61,000
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: new soldiers. According to the Army, daily contract signings were
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: 56 percent higher than during the same period last year. Chrissy,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: this is amazing.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Are you surprised?
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: No, not at all, because we're heading into this insane
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: golden age of America. You know, I always say to
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: people that don't understand how Trump lost in 2020, whether
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: you think the election was rigged or whether you don't,
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: I was one of the people that voted for him
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: in 2016, did not vote for him in 2020, and
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: then went to vote for him in 2024. Mm-hmm. If
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: you lived in the middle of the country or you
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: lived in one of these big cities, there was an
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: intense feeling, a very intense feeling, especially if you're young
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: and impressionable. So among the Gen Z cohort of people
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: in 2020, where people felt like there was no way
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: out of this but to get rid of.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: The government. You felt.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: So much pressure as if the whole world hinged on
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: whether Trump.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Got reelected or not. It was insane.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: 2024 felt different in that, in that we were picking
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: between the continuous decline of our country or the acceleration
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: of our country, whereas 2020 felt like no matter which
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: slide you took, you were sliding down. And I know
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: not everybody agrees with that, and that's fine. That is
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: generally a sentiment that people felt.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: In 2020.
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: And so 2024 came around. And I think all of
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: the people that felt that way about, I'm just picking
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: whichever slide I'm going to go down in 2020, but
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: I'm going downhill anyway, because the pandemic, the BLM riots,
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: everything felt downhill and depressing. You get to 2024 and
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: And it feels like an ascension. And so many more
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: people decided to take the hard path of walking uphill
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: in 2024 as opposed to sliding down with Kamala that
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: it does. It feels like you're feeling the prosperity of
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: going on a walk after days and days and days
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: of walking. being like a fatty on your couch. You
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: feel good. You feel a little dopamine in your body.
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: And I think that's what America is getting, is that
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: hit of dopamine that you get after you have experienced
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: a downhill decline for four years that, of course, was
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: amplified and made worse by Joe Biden.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: I make no qualms about that. And no, I did
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: not vote for him. I voted for my dog.
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: So I really did not vote for Joe Biden or Trump.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: But either way, it.
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: Just felt like we were moving in the right direction
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: for the first time since 2016. And I know a
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: lot of people disagree with my analysis on that in 2020,
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: but there's a reason why the numbers looked at least
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: not as good for Trump, even if you believe the
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: election was rigged. So I just think that this is
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: an indication of that dopamine payoff, right? We're seeing men
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: decide that they want to step up and serve their
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: country because this is a country we're serving for.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: We're not all in this doom and gloom headspace.
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: There are happy warriors out there ready to get out
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: there and serve their country because there is purpose, because
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: there is passion behind it. And that doesn't just come
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: with one man.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: I think he's obviously.
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: has much to do with it, but it comes with
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: an entire country getting behind that man's mission. And that
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: is what's happening. The majority of America is behind President
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: Trump's mission.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Christy, I think that men have been really beaten
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: down for a long time. I think they've watched their
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: country sell them out to foreign markets. They have been
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: replaced with legal and illegal immigration. It's devalued labor in
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: this country. They've been told that their masculinity is toxic.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: And they experienced, you're right, in 2020, a severe violation
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: of basic civil liberties with the COVID vaccine and the
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: COVID mandates. And of course, they also watched their country burn.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: And if they dare try to stand up for it,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: which is what people like Kyle Rittenhouse did, right, they
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: had the book thrown at them. They had their lives destroyed.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: What happened with Daniel Penny not that long ago, you
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: stand up for people bystanders in the subway. And you
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: are going to be prosecuted and potentially thrown in jail.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: There's a chilling effect for young men. Suddenly, I feel
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: like masculinity is being brought to the forefront in this country.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: And just like I think women have to be embracing
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: their feminine energy, like Natalie said she is desiring to do,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: I think men need to embrace their masculine energy. And
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: for the first time, it's felt like they have the
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: room to do that because there's an admin that actually
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: respects it for once. We have leadership. signaling this country
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  Speaker 2: still values what men have to offer to society, which
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: is a beautiful thing. And there has been, Christy, just
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: like so much repeated sidelining of men and their role
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  Speaker 2: in society for such a long time. I want to
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: get your take on this clip. This is from the
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: HBO show Girls. It came out a while ago, so
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: this is not a recent show. It's been out for years.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: But this specific scene in the show has gone mega
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: viral on social media. It is where Mimi Rose, played
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: by Gillian Jacobs, tells her boyfriend Adam, played by Adam Driver,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: that she can't go for a run because she's had
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: an abortion. And mind you, in this scene, Adam, who
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: was unaware that she had had an abortion, is supposed
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: to be the bad guy. Take a listen. Do we
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: have that, Nikki?
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  Speaker 7: No, I can't go for a run because I had
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  Speaker 7: an abortion yesterday. I can't go for a run, I
• 36:00
  Speaker 7: can't take a bath or use a tampon or have
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: intercourse for like a week.
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  Speaker 2: Are you, uh.
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  Speaker 7: What? Yeah, just a couple of things I can't do
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  Speaker 7: because I had an abortion yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: Was it mine?
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah, of course it was yours. I didn't want to
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: talk about it beforehand. I just wanted to do it.
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: But I haven't shared with boyfriends in the past. I'm
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: trying to be more open with you.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: So you're trying to be open with me.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: How many abortions have you had?
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: I'm not going to share that with you because that
• 36:43
  Speaker 7: is private. I'm not going to ask you how many
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: girls you've gotten pregnant.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: None. It's not private.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: I've gotten no girls pregnant except for you now. It
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: went with you.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: My friend Sue Ellen Garth.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: I don't even know her. You'll meet her.
• 37:08
  Speaker 7: She's a somnambulist.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: Who did it? Who aborted you?
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: A doctor named Gunita did the procedure.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: She delivered my cousin's baby.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Was it a boy or a girl?
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: My cousin's baby's a girl.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: No!
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  Speaker 7: Ours!
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  Speaker 3: It was a ball of cells.
• 37:26
  Speaker 7: It was smaller than a seed pearl. It didn't have
• 37:28
  Speaker 7: a penis or a vagina.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Isn't this a decision that people typically make together?
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: So you wanted a baby?
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: Maybe.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: That's kind of absurd.
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: We've been together for less than seven weeks. I don't
• 37:39
  Speaker 7: think that we're ready for a child.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Crazier things have happened. People do crazy things. My parents
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: got married after a week.
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: Okay, so we should have the baby and put it
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: in your toolbox as a cradle and feed it sardines
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: and tell it that you don't know my middle name?
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: It's Rose! No, my first name is Mimi Rose.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: My middle name is Eleanor.
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand how you could do something like that
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  Speaker 1: without talking to me first.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: If it's evil. You're right.
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: You don't understand.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Chrissy. So just so we're all clear, the bad
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: guy in this scene is supposed to be the man.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: And the series director, writer, producer, Lena Dunham said of
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: this scene, as someone who's really passionate about reproductive justice,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: for me, it's not just about making sure abortion is legal.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: It's about making sure abortion is without stigma. and is
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: not something that women feel like they have to apologize for. Chrissy,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: this has been going viral, and I think for a reason.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Your thoughts watching that?
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: There's a reason why people watch that, and they don't
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: understand what Lena Dunham's point of view is. If you
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: watch that and you're on the girl's side, I really
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: think that you need to reevaluate the kind of content
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: that you are consuming. Most normal people would be very
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: understanding of the man's point of view that you don't
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: just go out and make a decision like that that
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: involves two people but make it as one singular person.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: And for whatever reason, the feminists out there get really,
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: it's my body, it's my choice. Well, you didn't think
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: that way about vaccines.
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: You only do it about this one singular issue when
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: it talks about your one singular body, allegedly. No, you're
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: dealing with three human beings in this specific conversation. about abortion.
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: I think this goes to two things. One, it really
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: does a good job, I will say, the acting by
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: the Mimi Rose character.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Really good job.
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: I think it showcases the callousness with which women nowadays
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: talk about abortion. They really do believe that it is
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: simply a clump of cells. They really can't explain away
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: why If you're pregnant and you want the baby, it's life.
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: If you're pregnant and you don't want the baby, it's
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: a clump of cells. They can't really explain that away.
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: They don't understand it. It's like a, I don't even
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: know how to put it, like it just mystifies them.
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: They're sitting there with like their jaw dropped to the floor.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: They cannot figure that out. And scientists simultaneously believe that
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: life begins at conception. So I'd Don't know how they
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: debate around that either.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: It's kind of crazy.
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: But secondary, this really showcased the whole time I was like, wow,
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: my analysis on the lack of communication in the dating
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: pool really is just like.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: Spot on here.
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: You're telling me they didn't have a conversation about what
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: kind of birth control methods that were available, that she's
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: just not on anything. They weren't using condoms. They weren't
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: being safe in any single manner.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: That wasn't a conversation that they had.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: This is exactly what I'm talking about. People engage in
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: reckless behavior.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: They kind of.
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: Haphazardly talk to people because of their own independent lives
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: that they have to take care of and nobody else
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: matters and it's only about what I want.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: If you are going to commit yourself to doing any
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: sort of act with another human being, you owe them
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: a conversation. That is what is lacking in the dating pool.
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: It's how we get to things like this. We can't
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: even have conversations about this whole abortion process until we
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: talk about how to fix the lack of communication and
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: the lack of communicative skills that goes in to dating
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: in 2025.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: This is a perfect example of it. So thank you
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: for that. We appreciate it, Adam Driver.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: It's a good example, and it's also an example of
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: the way that we're told you don't have to communicate
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: in this sphere. Not only are we already having broken
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: down communication, but the message of this clip and what
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: we're being told culturally constantly is that women don't have
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: to explain themselves on this issue. What I found fascinating
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: about this, Chrissy, is you watch it. It's been circling
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: around the right-wing social media for a long time, and
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: it was never— by people who have never seen the show
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: and didn't understand the intent— And everybody has been hands
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: down sympathetic with the man who was essentially lied to.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: He had no role in this decision to kill his
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: own child. And of course, the takeaway of the series
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: is that he was in the wrong. But even in
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: a series where that's the takeaway, that's the intended message
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: of the creators, people watched it and they saw the
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: truth of the situation. of how deeply unjust and wrong
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: morally it is to say, I'm going to kill your
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: child and I'm not even going to inform you about it.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: And maybe if I do, you have no right to
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: be upset. I mean, to objectively, this has been received
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: as very disturbing by a lot of people and understandably so.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: And again, it's fascinating that that was the exact opposite intention.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: People are seeing the truth of the situation. I think
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: we're seeing the truth of all these situations as we,
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: you know, we talking about Sydney, Sydney, sweetie, bathwater, and,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: and just everything that that modernity is presenting to us.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: We're looking at it and you'll get the truth if
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: you have your conscience open. So anyways, I am so
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: appreciative of your insights, Chrissy. You have been amazing as always.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: I really appreciate you joining the show and I want
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: to be respectful of your time. So Where can people
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: go to follow you, to follow all the work that
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: you do?
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you can find me on Instagram and TikTok at thechrissyclark.
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: And I also have a podcast called Underreported Stories.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: We've been off.
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: I've been a little sick this past week. So I've
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: been off, but I'm back today. So you can find
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: my podcast, Underreported Stories with Chrissy Clark, wherever you get
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: your podcasts.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. Of course.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Underreported Stories is the best. So I hope you all
• 43:35
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• 43:37
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• 43:41
  Speaker 2: I will see you all next time.
• 44:23
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