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- 0:19Hello, good morning. It is Thursday, right? Yeah,
- 0:23Thursday, August 13th. You are tuned into the
- 0:26Ted Vanilla Information Show, TMI show for short,
- 0:28because we bring you way too much information.
- 0:30I'm Manila Chan. That'd be Ted Raul, producer
- 0:32Robbie lurking in the background. I think we're
- 0:34just a couple of unique chatters away from hitting
- 0:39our metrics to stay in the Rumble Creator program.
- 0:43So please do, if you haven't already this month,
- 0:46dropped a poop -moji or called Robbie a Nazi
- 0:49or whatever. Please do so. We just need like
- 0:52three or four more people, I think. I think that's
- 0:55what Robbie last said. So, Ted, camera, back
- 1:00to the old camera. What? Hold on, let me, I don't
- 1:04know what happens here. I can fix this. No. No,
- 1:07me, me. It's not true. Me, I'm - Oh, you look
- 1:10so much better. The old camera's better, really?
- 1:14Yeah, yeah, yeah, you, you. You don't have that
- 1:17Shrek look. Which I mean, you know, I mean, if
- 1:21you're from, you know, there are people who would
- 1:23be into that, but I don't think most people.
- 1:25There are. There are. I mean, there are people
- 1:27that were like, that sexualized like the weird,
- 1:30I never watched, but the, the Star Trek weird
- 1:34alien chicks. Oh, um, the green lady from the
- 1:40first Star Trek series? I don't know. Oh no,
- 1:43are you thinking of Seven of Nine? No, no, Star
- 1:47Trek. He was married to the governor of Illinois,
- 1:49right? I don't know. I didn't watch Star Trek.
- 1:53That was the Jamarro thing. But, you know, people
- 1:57be at the Trekkie conferences or what are they?
- 2:01Well, the Green Lady was a Star Trek thing. Original
- 2:04series, but but she just makes an appearance
- 2:07in like one episode Oh, I thought there were
- 2:09more like like Spock had the ears and people,
- 2:12you know the different looks and or um, what's
- 2:15the other isn't it Star Trek with with um No,
- 2:18I know it's Bill Shatner the original and what's
- 2:20what's the one the latter ones was Jean -Luc
- 2:23Picard and that's Star Trek, isn't it? Yeah,
- 2:26that's Star Trek next next generation. That's
- 2:28the second series Yeah, I thought there were
- 2:31like like Women, I guess, females from other...
- 2:35Well, yeah, I mean, not really. Not who become,
- 2:41like, who are getting with the humans. No, not
- 2:46getting with the humans on the show. I mean,
- 2:48the viewers would sexualize those characters.
- 2:53Oh, I mean, I think that... did happen from some
- 2:56gross time to time. Yeah. I've seen that. So
- 2:58anyway, there are people that would have liked
- 3:00a green manila. So, you know, there you go. Anyway,
- 3:04please join us Monday through Friday, 10 a .m.
- 3:07Eastern time. This is where stuff gets weird
- 3:09with the news, because honestly, like nothing's
- 3:13weirder than real news. And we shouldn't be too
- 3:16serious about it. It's true. Our first story,
- 3:18I'm going to jump to it because it is it is effing
- 3:22weird. Just the world that we're living in. So
- 3:27we'll explain. I'm gonna explain it. Okay, so
- 3:36ICE agents could soon be getting a new piece
- 3:39of gear or kit that sounds less like standard
- 3:42law enforcement equipment and more like something
- 3:45dreamed up for a dystopian reboot of RoboCop.
- 3:49The Department of Homeland Security plans to
- 3:51spend as much as 20 million dollars on what's
- 3:54called the ctg5 glove but it's it's um you know
- 4:02it's it's uh wow i'm when you run on like two
- 4:05or three hours of sleep with a new baby ted i
- 4:07can't i was gonna say you're very like i i can't
- 4:11decide whether you're like uh down or or whether
- 4:14you're in or out today you're like totally like
- 4:17you're totally like like highly caffeinated but
- 4:21also perhaps oh yeah perhaps strung out maybe
- 4:23that's the right word yeah i can't i'm like i
- 4:26feel like i'm hunter biden today where i'm saying
- 4:29that's not good sure yeah where i'm not sure
- 4:32what i'm saying but i'm saying things at a high
- 4:34rate of speed so well i mean i suppose that's
- 4:39It shows you got a need for speed, hilarious.
- 4:43Well, the new camera, it helps you look better
- 4:45while you talk. No, this is the old camera. Well,
- 4:48the new old camera. The new old camera, is what
- 4:50I'm trying to say. The retro cam. It's pretty
- 4:55wild. I got emailed a psychological analysis
- 4:58from a viewer yesterday, like a 12 -page white
- 5:01paper. Wait, what does this have to do with the
- 5:03camera? Absolutely nothing. Oh, okay. All right.
- 5:08I'm a linear dude. I'm like looking for... Go
- 5:12ahead. I do want to hear about this. No, I'm
- 5:13kind of like a flea on a hot plate just kind
- 5:15of just bouncing all around. That's just... What
- 5:17am I going to do stuck in the middle here? I
- 5:21don't know. I thought it was like something to
- 5:22do with the ice gloves, but okay. Let me explain
- 5:24what the ice gloves are. Wait, let Robbie tell
- 5:26his story. Come on. Stop. He teased it. Yeah,
- 5:32after I started reading the news. Oh, you start
- 5:35talking about the camera and then you start talking
- 5:36about the baby. Interrupting people is your thing.
- 5:40What? Stop. Go, Robbie. Yeah. No, it's just,
- 5:43it's really wild. I haven't had a chance to read
- 5:45the whole thing. And it talks about how I'm very
- 5:49high agency. I don't know. Your face, Manila.
- 5:55So I'm high, I'm high agency. Let me see here.
- 5:58Exactly what this thing says. uh, uh, religiously
- 6:03anchored identity, uh, do not care about public
- 6:08approval, willing to be publicly ostracized.
- 6:13And, uh, we know have adversarial cognition,
- 6:18uh, counter arguments appear to sharpen rather
- 6:20than destabilize this thinking. So it's just,
- 6:23it's really interesting. Let's have to have to
- 6:25read it. I'll send it to you. It's just, it's
- 6:27the first time I've actually ever been analyzed
- 6:29by a shrink before. So, you think they're a real
- 6:34shrink that sent this to you? Oh, yeah. No, another
- 6:36person. So, this person is like, I'm going to
- 6:40get into Robbie's brain. That's what makes it
- 6:43work. Interesting. Yeah, it's interesting. But
- 6:45these are all like kind of no does that we already
- 6:47knew about you. Yeah. I understand. Okay. All
- 6:53right. None of that surprises me, but okay, sure.
- 6:57So, they should submit. ICE agents to a psychological
- 7:02profile before. Yeah, I think they do. I mean,
- 7:07if they find out you're not an asshole, you don't
- 7:10qualify. That's that's what I'm saying. Like
- 7:12they should submit a psychological profile. And
- 7:15if it shows that you are, that's how they should
- 7:17pick them. Or I think that's maybe that is how
- 7:19they pick them. I don't know. But anyway, if
- 7:21you join ICE now, you can get this CTG five glove
- 7:25short for generated. low output voltage emitter.
- 7:32What does that translate to? A glove capable
- 7:35of delivering electric shock through direct contact.
- 7:41What could possibly go wrong? I mean, I mean,
- 7:46the thing is, I mean, like under normal circumstances,
- 7:49I would say that this could be right for abuse.
- 7:52But this is ice we're talking about. Our most
- 7:55trusted, sober calm deescalating law enforcement
- 8:00agency. So the whole DHS says the whole point
- 8:05of the $20 million investment is that these these
- 8:09shock gloves are a de -escalation device. They
- 8:14are precisely that. That's what it's a quote
- 8:16from DHS. My apology. My apology. Critics are
- 8:20understandably wondering how adding electricity
- 8:23to an arrest makes things calmer. The glove uses
- 8:27uses pain to force compliance and can interfere
- 8:31with coordinated muscle movement. And the manufacturer
- 8:36says it delivers much less voltage than a taser
- 8:39and is activated. That's nice to hear. The push
- 8:41of a button. Pew! Pew! I mean, I kind of want
- 8:46one. You just never know. Like why how come this
- 8:51is never I've never seen this out in the marketplace
- 8:54like ever So why is ice getting the scoop on
- 8:57like a new product, but all right clearly? Perhaps
- 9:00the most eye -raising eyebrow raising feature
- 9:03is something the company calls low optics Translation
- 9:07it looks like an ordinary glove and according
- 9:10to one It's like it's like a sneak attack. It's
- 9:14like It's like brass knuckles right brass knuckles
- 9:19No, because you know what brass knuckles are
- 9:21when you see them. No, you don't see them for
- 9:24the most part. Like, you know, a person has a
- 9:26sleeve, usually. Their fist is clenched. Well,
- 9:30they're hiding their hands, obviously. But this
- 9:32is like you see the cop or the ICE agent's hands.
- 9:35You're not really staring at their hand. They
- 9:37look like a glove. They look like a glove. You
- 9:39should be, because they might be reaching for
- 9:41a firearm. So you ought to be looking at their
- 9:44hands. That's true. In this case, they're wearing
- 9:46what you would think is like regular gloves.
- 9:49But according to this police chief featured by
- 9:52the manufacturer he said they look better on
- 9:56video Everything does then more visibly aggressive
- 10:02use of force. That's what he's saying. That's
- 10:04to complete the quote Wow, it doesn't look as
- 10:09bad for the cop or the I don't even know where,
- 10:16I don't even know where to go with that. That's
- 10:20insane. Nothing says transparency quite like
- 10:23designing a weapon to photograph nicely. The
- 10:26gloves remain relatively new and have not been
- 10:28widely adopted by police departments. Critics
- 10:31including civil rights advocates and former ICE
- 10:33officials. Do they mean like? Kristi Noem or
- 10:36something? Question whether agents need another
- 10:40pain compliance tool when many immigration violations
- 10:44are civil rather than criminal offenses. The
- 10:47manufacturer's own manual warns officers not
- 10:50to use gloves. This is to go after protesters.
- 10:52This is to go after writing. I think so. This
- 10:54is how you, Renee, create a whole graveyard full
- 10:57of Renee goods and Alex pretties. From over shock
- 11:01of gloves? I don't know. Well, the manufacturer's
- 11:03owner's manual. I mean, tasers kill people all
- 11:06the time. Oh, yeah. They say it's less powerful
- 11:10than that. And it warns the officers not to use
- 11:13the gloves as punishment. So good. The owner's
- 11:15manual tells them, don't use it as punishment.
- 11:18Don't do that. It's right there on page 46, bub.
- 11:21It tells you, man, this isn't for punishment,
- 11:25okay? Don't do that, Ice. By definition. Or,
- 11:30and they emphasize, don't use this simply because
- 11:33someone is verbally defiant. So the warnings
- 11:36are all there. The same way red lights stop drunk
- 11:40drivers, same thing. It also recommends avoiding
- 11:44their use on pregnant women, small children,
- 11:47old people. Well, that's sweet. or disabled individuals.
- 11:51So don't use this on those vulnerable populations.
- 11:54Oh, yeah, no, duh. OK, so supporters argue less
- 11:58lethal technology could prevent officers from
- 12:02resorting to more dangerous force, lethal force.
- 12:05All right, so fair enough. But when your new
- 12:07de -escalation strategy involves electrifying
- 12:10somebody with your hands, the terminology may
- 12:13be doing considerably more work than the gloves.
- 12:16So this is This is us living in 2050, Ted. We're
- 12:20living in the future. That's all I gotta say.
- 12:24Well, or the past. Manila, please look at the
- 12:27telegram chat. I put up a poster of a movie called
- 12:32The Glove from the 1970s. It is not a good movie.
- 12:37It is a movie I have seen, however. And to date
- 12:41this story, I saw it on VHS at Blockbuster back
- 12:44in the day. But anyway, it's about like a basically
- 12:48this anti -riot glove and it's a stupid exploitation
- 12:52B movie, like a C movie. But anyway, the point
- 12:55is this it's about how this police glove can
- 12:58be used. You know in order it's literally the
- 13:02entire movie boils down to you can really fuck
- 13:05someone up with a meat with a badass glove so
- 13:08when I saw this story, I immediately of course
- 13:10naturally thought about this and It's I mean
- 13:15This is just like one of those like obviously
- 13:18terrible ideas This is like one of their super
- 13:21villain type like gadgets you would see in like
- 13:24a Batman movie or something like this is yeah
- 13:28I mean this is just like obviously one of those
- 13:30things like duh like you know like my cat knows
- 13:33this would be a bad idea you know it's like I
- 13:36get the sense that this is not the way to go
- 13:40I think for like civil infractions you know I
- 13:44just can't be trusted with the shit they already
- 13:46have and you want to give them more I mean, I
- 13:50mean, they don't even know they should have their
- 13:53what they have taken away from them. They shouldn't
- 13:57have guns. They don't know how to use them. So
- 14:00or maybe they know how to use them too well.
- 14:04But I mean, apparently, I mean, the dude that
- 14:08that killed Renee Good, she was in a moving vehicle
- 14:11and he managed to get her square in the face.
- 14:14By the way, just yesterday or the day before,
- 14:17there was a story about another incident where
- 14:20a lady, like basically Ice was like, oh, this
- 14:23lady weaponized her car. Too bad for them. She
- 14:28had the dash cam that showed that they lied.
- 14:33And basically, her car never moved an inch. And
- 14:38they were pointing their gun right at her and
- 14:41threatening her. And basically all she did was
- 14:44yell at Ice like, you know, you guys are a bunch
- 14:46of assholes, stop fucking with that person. And
- 14:50they got so pissed. Oh, she was defending someone?
- 14:52Yeah, she basically was driving by and saw Ice
- 14:55attacking, you know, a person of color and decided
- 14:59to, you know, just say, hey, fuck you. And they
- 15:03went after her. And their feelings got hurt.
- 15:05Yeah, their fiefies got hurt. It's very sad for
- 15:08them. And it's kind of like, it's kind of like
- 15:12Like, in the spring, we saw a Subway sandwich
- 15:15dude become a hero for 15 minutes in DC, right?
- 15:20Yes. A true American hero. By the way, all the
- 15:23charges were dropped quietly, of course. He threw
- 15:26his foot long at the ice dude standing at the
- 15:28corner. He's a real sandwich man with his sandwich
- 15:31plan. American hero. Literally. Not American
- 15:36hoagie. Maybe he's an American hoagie, depending
- 15:39on where you live. So somebody should get a quote
- 15:42from that guy. Somebody should get a quote from
- 15:45that guy. Well, he was fired from his job though.
- 15:48Yeah, that's true. Cause he was, he was a federal
- 15:50worker, wasn't he? He was a govey. Yeah, he was
- 15:52a govey worker. And, um, so he got fired. I think
- 15:55he was like, like fighting in court to get his
- 15:59career back because you get retirement and stuff.
- 16:01Like he wasn't, he wasn't a kid. He was like
- 16:03in his thirties. So he, he's a grown ass man
- 16:05and probably worked as a government employee
- 16:07for, you know, 10, 15 years at that point. You
- 16:10have like your, you have your pension and stuff.
- 16:12So you don't want to lose that. So poor guy.
- 16:14Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I hope, I hope the dude manages
- 16:18to, I don't know, if not get the job back, um,
- 16:22get a lifetime supply of sandwiches from Subway.
- 16:25Yeah, or grinders, depending on what they call
- 16:28them. What are they, grinders? Yeah. How much,
- 16:31you know how there's a zillion different words
- 16:33for there's submarine, there's hokey. You know
- 16:40how there's like certain terms that what you
- 16:43call them helps determine what part of the country
- 16:45you grew up in like is it like is it a is it
- 16:48a rotary or is it a traffic circle or is it a
- 16:52Median strip or is it a beauty strip? I call
- 16:55it a roundabout a Roundabout right? There's a
- 16:58lot of different words for this for certain things
- 17:00and they can test someone very oh like you're
- 17:04probably from Massachusetts or whatever. Yeah
- 17:07Well, I don't know what to call these ice gloves
- 17:11other than this is futuristic, crazy shit. And
- 17:17I don't think anybody should have these. I don't
- 17:21think any law enforcement, if they have it, we
- 17:23should have it. Yeah. Well, the truth is they
- 17:26don't need it. We need it to defend ourselves
- 17:29from them because they're crazy. They're the
- 17:34ones attacking civilians, whether you're a protestor.
- 17:38The next story. I mean, this is applicable to
- 17:40that. So I don't know. This is just an update
- 17:42to the public that if you see the ice goons and
- 17:45they've got some kind of slightly off looking
- 17:48gloves. Yeah, and it's it's not when. Yeah, if
- 17:54it's not winter, it's not the dead of winter.
- 17:58That's what that's what this is, because they're.
- 18:02Just be forewarned that if they're wearing gloves
- 18:04and it's 90 degrees outside, that's what this
- 18:07is. Yeah, be careful. I mean, you know they're
- 18:11going to do this, right? There's no world in
- 18:13which they are not going to do this, right? Can
- 18:15we agree on that? You're like, oh, new technology.
- 18:17I'm going to shock people with my hands. Not
- 18:19to mention, there's like, you know there's some
- 18:22company that produces these is connected politically
- 18:25to, you know, there's going to be grift here.
- 18:29Oh God, this is such a bad idea. You know, corruption
- 18:32is always part of the equation. Matina's bringing
- 18:35up in the chat people with heart issues. Yeah,
- 18:37that's true. You don't know. Wondon says, electric
- 18:41shock coming to handshakes near you. True. Oh
- 18:46God. Insane. We are number six on Rumble right
- 18:50now. That's our highest yet. Congratulations.
- 18:56Maybe it's because all the other shows are leaving
- 18:58rumble. That could be, but they're clearing the
- 19:01field. A lot of the smaller ones are definitely
- 19:03getting purged, for sure. I know, I know. But
- 19:06we're climbing the rumble ladder. Yeah, we are.
- 19:09Let's hope we can start climbing the rumble paycheck
- 19:11ladder. I know, I know. We were, and then we
- 19:14weren't. And then, yeah, and then they decided
- 19:16to change the pay plan without asking anyone.
- 19:19But, you know, all right, cool. All right, next
- 19:21story. Well, they never told us really how they
- 19:23calculated anything. No, that's right. They never
- 19:26they never told us how Exactly like like down
- 19:30to the dollar of how the how you would be paid
- 19:33They said how you would be paid Oh based on profit
- 19:36sharing based on this but then what does that
- 19:38mean? No one knows right? But the the dollars
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- 19:44They're just like so you want to be a part of
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- 19:54which was on watch hours, which were the biggest
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- 20:05But, and this is the but, for you to get profit
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- 20:11So, someone just goes to rumble .com slash premium.
- 20:14Rumble gets all of it. So if the shows are your
- 20:17profit sharing that the sign up through the,
- 20:19uh, through the premium button here on the show,
- 20:24only when it's running live, which is, well,
- 20:27well, well, not, well, not for that. So the live
- 20:30thing is if someone's become a direct channel
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- 20:36as they sign up through the show, even if it's
- 20:38on a video, that still works. Oh, that's nice.
- 20:42OK, so that stays on our real estate. So if somebody
- 20:45goes to our channel and becomes a premium subscriber
- 20:48through the TMI show, that's basically telling
- 20:51Rumble, hey, TMI sent me. So profit share with
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- 20:58Red is what it is. However, what's really stupid
- 21:02is that it's really hard to find that subscription
- 21:04thing on Rumble. I mean, if they're going to
- 21:06go this route, shouldn't they? make it super
- 21:10easy? Yeah, they have. So there's a big red honking
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- 21:17to click on a video. Do we want people to hit
- 21:20that thing or not? If they want to support the
- 21:23show, sure. Well, OK, so the answer is yes. Yes.
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- 21:44Of course they can. No, no, they can't. They
- 21:46can't. There's no way to subscribe for like $10
- 21:49a month or whatever. Speck in Chicago says, can't
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- 21:57be on the desktop or I guess the PC or. It's
- 22:04not like on the it's not on the I don't know
- 22:06that you can watch if you can find it on the
- 22:07phone I'm already rumbles. I'm already rumble
- 22:10premium subscribers, so I can't see let me jump
- 22:13into another account that I know does not have
- 22:15it now We'll find out we'll find out we'll find
- 22:17out and see what it looks like Ray says hoagie
- 22:21But he's an East Coast kid. Oh Yeah, hoagie Hoagie
- 22:26I thought that was a certain kind of bread that
- 22:28makes a sandwich. No sandwich is no A hoagie
- 22:31is just a sandwich. It's just one of those big
- 22:33sandwiches. Oh, so it's just a regional term.
- 22:38I don't know. I'm going to look up the list of
- 22:41regional terms for sandwich like subs. I mean,
- 22:47but subs are not everywhere. No, no, no, no,
- 22:51no. Oh, I forgot Louisiana and I apologize to
- 22:55my Cajun's po -boy down there. But I thought
- 22:59a po -boy was like Only fish or crawfish? Traditionally,
- 23:04it's fish or roast beef gravy. Also, oh, I forgot,
- 23:07buffalo. It's a bomba. It's a bomba. What? Obama?
- 23:12No, it's a bomber. And in Maine, it's called
- 23:16an Italian sandwich. And it's a Zep in Eastern
- 23:21PA. And and in Boston, it's a spuckle, a spucky,
- 23:27a spucky. I think Spucky's probably my favorite
- 23:32name for all of these. Spucky's awesome. Got
- 23:37to hand it to the Bostonians. Oh, it's in Jersey.
- 23:40It's a blimpy. I remember that. I've seen that.
- 23:43A blimpy? A blimpy. I think it's named after
- 23:47the... I think there was a company called Blimpy.
- 23:50Yeah, I seem to remember. And so I think it's
- 23:52called that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're
- 23:55from the Torpedo. It's from some like Westchester
- 24:01or something like that. The gondola. Oh, that
- 24:04would be good to launch. That would be good to
- 24:06launch at an ice person. Peoria, Illinois. A
- 24:09torpedo. The gondola. A gondola? In the UK, specifically
- 24:17Stoke -on -Trent, a Sarnie. No, okay, we gotta
- 24:22go. We gotta go. There's a lot of terms for sandwiches.
- 24:24That's all I gotta say. Well, I don't know about
- 24:27the sandwiches, but I am on. This is making me
- 24:30hungry though. I'm on Ben Swan's account right
- 24:33now. So, uh, so we ask ourselves another unique
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- 25:17that. So that's, that's the difference. Now what
- 25:20percentage of the rumble premium property sharing
- 25:23we get? I have no idea. Rumble hasn't released
- 25:25it. No idea, but we're number six. We're number
- 25:30six. We're number six. Okay. Very cool. All right.
- 25:34All right. Thanks for that, Robbie. We're jawsed
- 25:36already. So I'm going to go right into it. Oh,
- 25:39are we double jawsing? All right. Anyway, jaws.
- 25:41Don't forget to D jaws, right? Otherwise, it'll
- 25:45just be a black screen. Palestinian activist
- 25:48Mahmoud Khalil is suing the federal government
- 25:51and several private groups, saying they were
- 25:53part of a conspiracy to suppress criticism of
- 25:56Israel through a coordinated campaign to dox,
- 25:59jail, and deport student activists. I mean, that
- 26:03is true. The civil rights suit filed in federal
- 26:07court Tuesday names the Heritage Foundation,
- 26:10the right -wing think tank, as the architect
- 26:13of an ongoing conspiracy to silence members of
- 26:17the pro -Palestinian movement by smearing them
- 26:20falsely as anti -Semites. Those efforts were
- 26:23aided by Canary Mission and Batar. two right
- 26:27-wing pro -Israel groups that maintain online
- 26:30lists of Israel's critics, often alongside false
- 26:34claims that they are affiliated with Hamas, according
- 26:37to the lawsuit and also according to the truth.
- 26:41Activists placed on these lists were nearly automatically
- 26:44targeted by the federal defendants for arrest
- 26:47and removal, the suit claims. That's also true.
- 26:51He's lucky it was before the ice gloves came.
- 26:54That's true. Adding that the process of nomination
- 26:57to punishment was frictionless. Lawyers for Khalil.
- 27:01argue that this public -private partnership between
- 27:05the federal government and these horrible right
- 27:08-wing asshole fascists in Israel could violate
- 27:12the Ku Klux Klan Act, a Reconstruction -era law
- 27:15that sought to restrict government coordination
- 27:18with vigilantes. The suit, led by the contender
- 27:21for constitutional rights, seeks unprecedented
- 27:24damages—sorry, unspecified damages—and a judicial
- 27:27order to cut the shit. Abigail Jackson, White
- 27:32House spokesperson, didn't comment on the lawsuit,
- 27:35but said in an email that the executive branch
- 27:37has the lawful authority to take actions that
- 27:40will protect the public and to ensure the integrity
- 27:42of our immigration system. In other words, She
- 27:45made words, but they don't say anything. The
- 27:47suit comes as Khalil's deportations case appears
- 27:50headed to the United States Supreme Court. At
- 27:52a news conference, Khalil described the purpose
- 27:55of the lawsuit as exposing the network of organizations,
- 27:59particular actors and institutions that work
- 28:01together to criminalize solidarity with Palestine
- 28:05and to make an example of those who refuse to
- 28:07stay silent. If constitutional protections can
- 28:10be cast aside under political pressure today,
- 28:13They can be cast aside tomorrow against anyone,"
- 28:15he added. A former grad student at Columbia University,
- 28:19Khalil gained prominence as a spokesperson and
- 28:22leader for student activists protesting against
- 28:24Israel and its actions in Gaza. As you can tell,
- 28:27I am obviously totally on Team Khalil here, and
- 28:31I hope he wipes the floor with them and destroys
- 28:34Canary Mission and Bataar, whose members should
- 28:38all be imprisoned for the rest of their lives.
- 28:40They are evil, bad people. These, so basically
- 28:45what they did was like make a, like a McCarthy
- 28:48list. Yep. Yeah, they basically, they made a
- 28:53list, not like Santa, like bad Santa, and they
- 28:57checked it twice. And if you were on it because
- 28:59you thought that genocide was bad, then they
- 29:03handed that list over to the Department of Homeland
- 29:07Security and said, you go find him. And even
- 29:12though he's a green card holder with an American,
- 29:16with a US wife, with a US child, US baby on the
- 29:21way, you know, go brutalize this family and fuck
- 29:26with them. And it wasn't just them. They did
- 29:28this to all sorts of people. There was that girl,
- 29:30college student who like, she wrote a little
- 29:34tiny like tepid article for the student paper.
- 29:37Like, woo. So anyway, these people are scum.
- 29:42But I mean, obviously, suing the government,
- 29:45they make it very, very hard. And the courts
- 29:49are predisposed to dismissing cases like this.
- 29:53But - SCOTUS? You know, you find the right judge?
- 29:57Well, yeah. I mean, SCOTUS is not going to like
- 30:00this case, because SCOTUS is on Team Trump. No.
- 30:04But, you know, if you can get through, if you
- 30:06can get what you would really want is for this
- 30:09to advance through the federal courts to the
- 30:11Court of Appeals and for SCOTUS not to hear it.
- 30:15I don't think this case, I mean, an appeal to
- 30:18the U .S. Supreme Court you know, requires a
- 30:21specific thing. I don't know if you know this,
- 30:23Mel, but it has to answer a question. So it's
- 30:26not just simply like, I don't like the ruling
- 30:29that happened that I lost the lower court ruling.
- 30:32I don't like it. I don't I think they made a
- 30:34mistake. They didn't look at the law correctly.
- 30:36I need you to that's usually the grounds for
- 30:39an appeal, something the judge made a mistake.
- 30:42They didn't follow the law. They didn't follow
- 30:43procedure. Please, I need a better court to take
- 30:47another look. But SCOTUS has to answer a constitutional
- 30:50question. When I appealed to SCOTUS in the LA
- 30:55Times case, we were asking a specific constitutional
- 30:58question. Is there such a thing as First Amendment
- 31:03violation by proxy? In other words, First Amendment
- 31:06cases apply only to public government entities.
- 31:11But what if a government entity prevails or controls
- 31:15a private entity to deny someone their First
- 31:18Amendment rights. That's the question, right?
- 31:20Well, see, I feel like that could be... What's
- 31:21the question here? I don't think there's a question.
- 31:23Sorry? You don't think there's a question? Wouldn't
- 31:25the question here be, should the U .S. government
- 31:29or an agent of the U .S. government be able to
- 31:34collude with... That question's already been
- 31:36answered by the KKK Act. Right. So therefore,
- 31:40there's no constitutional question then. So then
- 31:43in other words all your automatically you just
- 31:46need the KKK act to be adjudicated and ruled
- 31:49upon here. So when Mahmoud Khalil Automatically
- 31:55win in the lower courts because of the cook.
- 31:57Well, there's no such thing as no because like
- 31:59the the bias of the courts is always in favor
- 32:02of the government and against the plaintiffs
- 32:05against the government They always feel the government
- 32:08needs wide latitude to be able to do they're
- 32:11going to the government's going to say, listen,
- 32:13we need to be able to go after we need to be
- 32:16able to deport people who we think are a threat.
- 32:19We need to we need to have wide latitude to protect
- 32:22the American people. You know, the kind of people
- 32:24who serve as are appointed to become judges.
- 32:27They're not going to appoint like Manila. If
- 32:30you and I went to like a judge lady that the
- 32:33migrant guy out. If you and I went to law school.
- 32:36and served as brilliant attorneys, there is no
- 32:39world in which we would be appointed federal
- 32:42judges because of our politics. We won't play
- 32:46ball, and they won't like that. That's right.
- 32:48So I just feel like this is, yeah, I remember
- 32:51reading a little bit about the KKK Act, and I
- 32:54feel like this should be so obvious that it wasn't
- 32:57a point. It feels like a good fit. And yeah,
- 32:59it really does. But, you know, Pormach mood Khalil,
- 33:04man. He's just been through the ringer the last
- 33:05couple of years and I think I like that. He's
- 33:09a fighter too. He's got the energy for it. He's
- 33:11like good for him. Yeah, good kick ass. Yeah.
- 33:15And if you want to come on the show, come talk
- 33:17to us. Oh, please. Because both of you are Columbia
- 33:21Beauty School graduates. That's true. That's
- 33:23why we're both pretty. You should both. You should
- 33:27find him through the alumni. Do you notice my
- 33:29blemish free skin? That's right. Actually, have
- 33:33you noticed that my skin is actually looking
- 33:34better now? Is it better? I always thought you
- 33:37had better skin. No, I had a bunch of shits zapped
- 33:39off it by the dermatologist. You go to like -
- 33:42I mean, as an Asian woman, you don't have to
- 33:44deal with this, but you know, us whiteys. Oh,
- 33:48well, there you go. Well, look, you have the
- 33:51Alumni Association of the Columbia School of
- 33:54Beauty. You should look through that and see
- 33:57if you can contact. I think I will do that. All
- 34:01right. So I don't know a ton about this world,
- 34:12Ted, but I do find it fascinating because I love
- 34:15mobster movies like. you know, like Scarface
- 34:18and stuff like that. I love the Godfather series.
- 34:22The Sopranos, you know, I didn't, I didn't have
- 34:24a lot of time to follow The Sopranos. I caught
- 34:26it when I could and I was just thinking about
- 34:28re -watching it. But here's like the real life
- 34:30thing. Another Gotti got got just this week.
- 34:36So I just thought, I was like, yeah, like what,
- 34:40I didn't know the family was still doing the
- 34:43family business. Well, there's not much left
- 34:45of them. Right. That's yeah. So so late mob boss
- 34:49John Gotti's reality TV star grandson has reported
- 34:54to federal prison this week after trying to stave
- 34:57off his own prison sentence on fraud charges
- 35:01by saying he was going to donate a kidney to
- 35:04his ailing mother, Victoria Gotti, the daughter
- 35:08of John Gotti. That's his mama. So, the Federal
- 35:11Bureau of Prisons confirmed Tuesday that Carmine
- 35:15Agnello began his 15 -month prison term. That's
- 35:18not too bad, 15 months. All right. I don't know.
- 35:22Better you than me is all I have to say. Well,
- 35:24I mean, like 15 months relative to, I don't know,
- 35:27five, 10 years, whatever. Sure. I mean, it could
- 35:29be worse. Oh, he's really a beauty. He's a beautiful
- 35:32man. So, he reported to the Feds the previous
- 35:36day at the Federal Correctional Institute Fairton
- 35:41in South Jersey, Joy -Z. Joy -Z. Agnello, who
- 35:46starred on Growing Up Gotti in the mid -2000s,
- 35:50was originally scheduled to report to prison
- 35:52in July, but the U .S. District Court Judge Nusrat
- 35:56Chowdhury agreed to delay that until September
- 35:5918, saying it would allow enough time for the
- 36:03younger Gotti here, the Gotti grandson. to recover
- 36:06from the surgery, presuming that it happens by
- 36:09August 10. Well, now we're in August 13, because
- 36:12that's what Agnello had suggested, you know,
- 36:16grandkid Gotti. Agnello's lawyers have said in
- 36:19court filings that Victoria Gotti, the daughter
- 36:22of the former head of New York's Gambino crime
- 36:24family, suffers from chronic kidney disease.
- 36:27On Monday, though, with no operation in sight,
- 36:30Chowdhury ordered Agnello to surrender immediately
- 36:32to federal authorities. Quote, because there
- 36:35is no concrete evidence that an organ transplant
- 36:37will be scheduled to take place at any time between
- 36:40today and September 18, the request for another
- 36:43deferral of Mr. Agnello's self surrender is unjustified,
- 36:47said the judge. Agnelo's lawyer, Robert Beltrani,
- 36:52said in a letter that surgeons need more time
- 36:55to set a date for the operation because Gotti
- 36:57was dealing with infections. So the mom was,
- 37:01you know, she had some infections so they couldn't
- 37:02really schedule. I mean, that's plausible. Quote,
- 37:06it's undisputed. I mean, organ transplant is
- 37:09a lot more routine than it used to be, but it's
- 37:12still complicated. Yeah. He said, It is undisputed
- 37:17that Carmine is a great match for Ms. Gotti.
- 37:20He is simply asking the court to allow him to
- 37:23remain available to his mother during this very
- 37:25limited period while her doctors determine whether
- 37:29and when she can proceed with the transplant.
- 37:32Prosecutors objected noting that a medical report
- 37:35attached to the defendant's letter said doctors
- 37:38were working to, quote, identify the etiology
- 37:41and the proper treatment for Gotti's recurring
- 37:44infections and no transplant. What is etiology?
- 37:46Do you know? I don't know. No. No transplant
- 37:49could happen until they are fully treated. Clearly,
- 37:53they said, quote, clearly the transplant surgery
- 37:55is not imminent, said Joseph Nocella, U .S. Attorney
- 37:59for the Eastern District of New York. Nocella's
- 38:03office declined to comment further and lawyers
- 38:05for etiology have not. Etiology is actually a
- 38:06good word. It's like the origin point. The origins
- 38:10of her... Like where it came from. Okay. So of
- 38:14where her infections came from. Like did it come
- 38:17from a bat taking a poo on a pangolin or did
- 38:22it come from a lab? Or like salad? Like an explosive...
- 38:25Did it come from Taco Bell or did it come from...
- 38:28So they don't know, but she keeps getting, I
- 38:30guess... I guess Victoria Gotti keeps getting
- 38:32some sort of infection. And if she has like bad
- 38:35kidneys already, then it's probably you're more
- 38:38at risk, right? So Gotti's attorneys, that's
- 38:47all they had to say. pleaded guilty in 2024 to
- 38:52wire fraud after prosecutors said he fraudulently
- 38:55obtained $1 .1 million in loans from the federal
- 38:59government meant to help small businesses during
- 39:01the COVID pandemic. So he lied and got the pandemic
- 39:06money for a small business. A resident of Long
- 39:10Island, of course he's from Long Island, he obtained
- 39:13the loans on behalf of his company. Oh yes. Crown
- 39:18auto parts and recycling LLC. That's of course
- 39:22recycling Waste he's deeply concerned with the
- 39:27waste management, you know auto parts and recycling
- 39:30Ted come on That's a gaudy family business But
- 39:34lied about how many people it employed his criminal
- 39:37record and his plans for the funds is what the
- 39:40prosecutors obviously were able to prove, the
- 39:43company ceased operations before Agnello applied
- 39:46for the loan, which he ultimately used on other
- 39:48ventures, including 420K in a crypto business.
- 39:54So he, like millions of other fraudsters in the
- 39:58US, got millions of dollars in COVID pandemic
- 40:02loans. And that's what done him in, but it's
- 40:05only 15 months. So it's like, I got to ask you
- 40:08this, Ted. If you could get your fingers, if
- 40:12you can get your greasy little fingers on a million
- 40:15bucks, knowing that you'll be caught and then
- 40:17you have to go, you gotta, you're gonna go to
- 40:19the clink for, for just over a year. Would you
- 40:23do it? Would the viewer do it for a million bucks?
- 40:32The government can't retrieve the money you've
- 40:35spent it or whatever you did. A million dollars.
- 40:38is a lot oh one year well that's a tough one
- 40:48right maybe i mean for 10 million dollars i would
- 40:52100 do it for sure for sure a million is like
- 40:54a million dollars is it's what it is is it's
- 40:57a lot of money um it's not life -changing money
- 41:00if you're if you're middle class um Although
- 41:04I'm 63 years old almost and And so I'm like how
- 41:09much life do I have really? I mean, you know,
- 41:12yeah, but when you're when you're Carmine and
- 41:14you're like 40 but also prison sucks, so In South
- 41:20Jersey, it's probably I don't know. No, I mean
- 41:23federal prison I mean, I've heard John stories.
- 41:25I mean, it's you know prisons hard prison blows
- 41:28and he's a gaudy So I think he'll be fine right?
- 41:33Like in the clink. He'll be fine. He's a gaudy.
- 41:36He's a gaudy. If there was good food and conjugal
- 41:38visits, I could do prison, but you know. And
- 41:42by the way, thank you to Speck in Chicago. They
- 41:45have now become a monthly subscriber to TMI.
- 41:49Yay. Thank you very much for that. And so this
- 41:54is, you know. Oh, and Tara Predawild mentions
- 41:57from the last story, Ukraine's kill list, anyone
- 42:00opposing the Ukraine Nazis gets on it. Yeah,
- 42:03same thing with the, you know, Mahmoud Khalil
- 42:06stuff. Like, yeah, same thing. Same thing. They
- 42:09put you on a list. But yeah, if the U .S. government
- 42:12is in cahoots with the Ukraine Nazis, then obviously
- 42:15we're going to obviously put any pro -Palestine
- 42:19people on a list. But in this instance, I'm going
- 42:22to pose that moral quandary to all of you out
- 42:25there. If you are Carmine Gotti -Agnello here,
- 42:31your grandpa is John Gotti, you're probably gonna
- 42:35be safe in a federal penitentiary somewhere,
- 42:38right? Like no one's gonna fuck with you. You're
- 42:40John Gotti's grandson. You'll be okay, yeah.
- 42:44Would you swindle a million bucks but lose one
- 42:48year? Yeah, would you? Nine or 40, so. I'm not
- 42:54at this stage in my life. Maybe, maybe, you know,
- 42:58if I was like younger and single, like maybe
- 43:01I'd have been like, I could swindle a million
- 43:03bucks and lose a year. I'm not gonna earn a million
- 43:05bucks in a year. Like if I was 30. No, of course
- 43:11not. I'd be like, maybe, maybe, like, yeah. Oh,
- 43:15and is this million dollars tax free? Well, I
- 43:19mean, how are they going to get it back from
- 43:21him? How are they going to garnish him? Good
- 43:23point. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's pandemic, you know,
- 43:26business aid money. Like, how are they going
- 43:28to garnish him if his business everyone else
- 43:30was stealing that money? He would have been gone
- 43:33against brand. I mean, Clovis got millions. I
- 43:36mean, Right. I don't know much about the mafia
- 43:42world or the mobsters, but I feel like this is
- 43:46where they're moving towards. Peter, thank you
- 43:52for the donation in the chat. Peter says, just
- 43:54think how many donations I could make to TMI
- 43:56with a million bucks. A year in prison is nothing.
- 43:59Yes. Relative to your life situation. yeah if
- 44:04you're like 80 years old what kind of health
- 44:06are you in i mean i think about like for example
- 44:08i mean they don't give you proper medical care
- 44:10right so you know if you have if you go in and
- 44:14you're like okay you have good teeth you know
- 44:16you have you're young you're carmine agnello
- 44:18or not i mean honestly like 38 or something i
- 44:22was gonna say that's perfect right like 40 is
- 44:24like ideal you're old enough to have like you
- 44:28know Mental fortitude and to understand this
- 44:31too shall pass and you'll get through it You
- 44:34know when you throw a 16 year old in the clink
- 44:36it feels like they're good It's the end of their
- 44:38life because they can't imagine a year from now,
- 44:41but for a 40 year old. They're like, yeah Okay,
- 44:44this year will go by and I'll be fine at the
- 44:46end of the year So, you know, I mean I think
- 44:49swindled a million bucks, but that hello, although
- 44:51he's fat as shit So he could probably see fat
- 44:54now. I don't know what he looks like. He's a
- 44:56large. He's Lardis Oh, I didn't remember. He
- 45:00makes Trump look like his claimed weight. Yeah.
- 45:06So last thing I'm going to ask you, Ted, because
- 45:09you're a long time. You're basically a lifer
- 45:11New Yorker. Is like the mafia, the Italian mob,
- 45:16like are they still a thing or did it die with
- 45:19Gotti in 2002? It died. Yeah. I mean, so it's
- 45:22like this. There's still. Like garbage pickup
- 45:29and stuff like that, like, you know, stealing
- 45:33cars and stealing their parts and fencing them.
- 45:38That all happens and it's kind of like there's
- 45:42people who were or are connected, involved in
- 45:46it, but it's a shadow of a shadow of their former
- 45:49selves, right? So there are Italians who are
- 45:52involved in this, but there are other people
- 45:53who are involved in it. It's sort of just like
- 45:56it's petered out to a trickle. It's it's, you
- 46:00know, it's not I would. Is it gone? No, it's
- 46:05not down to zero point zero zero zero zero zero
- 46:08percent. But basically, it's not something that
- 46:11like the FBI should have a task force dedicated
- 46:15to because it would be a waste of money and time.
- 46:17So on the on the disease scale, are they they're
- 46:20not quite polio. Oh, no. Oh, so they're still
- 46:24more active than polio. Okay. Oh, oh, oh, oh,
- 46:27I thought you meant in terms of severity. No,
- 46:30no, no, I meant like, like, do we will, there's
- 46:33probably more polio cases. Maybe it's like smallpox
- 46:35cases, or it's like bubonic plague, right? Like,
- 46:38it happens sometimes. So you guys don't hear
- 46:41about this in New York anymore? It's like not
- 46:43a thing. Remember, remember in the 80s and 90s,
- 46:46people were getting hopped in the street all
- 46:49over the place. No, it's not like that. Yeah.
- 46:51Like stepping out of your Lincoln, right? Like
- 46:54your town car and someone gets capped like right
- 46:56then and there, face down, right? I mean, I'm
- 46:58sure there is still, the Cosa Nostra still exists.
- 47:02I'm sure there are people who are sworn into
- 47:04it and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But it has
- 47:06no practical effect for everyday life for New
- 47:09Yorkers anymore. Interesting. I just like wonder
- 47:12where are all these guys locked up? Are they,
- 47:16did it just die because John Gotti was like the
- 47:19last of a Dying breed because of that. I mean,
- 47:22it's from the federal government. It's from Rico.
- 47:25It's from the harassment and Yeah, it just basically
- 47:28got too hard to do business Do you bit the family
- 47:32business? That's it. There you go. But they're
- 47:35still there now they're instead of like instead
- 47:39of like running Business around town. I think
- 47:43they're swindling the federal government. I think
- 47:45that's how it's done But you know, I gotta admit
- 47:48Ted old movies as a fan of the movies of mobster
- 47:53movies I'm a little bit sad to hear that the
- 47:56that the goddies have kind of like fizzled Like
- 48:01I'm I know that's awful with me. It's awful and
- 48:03I know life is not a movie I know but I kind
- 48:06of it's kind of like the end of an era. You know
- 48:09what I mean? Oh, it is it is a hundred percent
- 48:12it is like no question like Oh, you kind of you
- 48:16kind of are like, John Gotti, all those Teflon
- 48:20Don, you're kind of like, dude, because I just
- 48:23can't help but but be like anyone beating the
- 48:25federal government. I know I hear that. I do
- 48:29hear that. I have to support. I'm kind of like,
- 48:32I mean, of course, in any fight between the mafia
- 48:34and the federal government, I'm going to be on
- 48:36Team Mob every time. I mean, yeah. Federal government
- 48:41is an evil force. So yeah, oh our our IP Italian
- 48:45mobsters like like I wish you guys well, maybe
- 48:48you guys are all going into crypto now I would
- 48:50love to hear if anyone is a former mobster It
- 48:54was whatever Please reach out to us would love
- 48:58to talk about it fascinating world Just saying
- 49:02right Ted. Would that be okay? Yeah, we talked
- 49:06to mobster you know mobster If you know Victoria
- 49:10Gotti, I would love to talk to Victoria Gotti.
- 49:12Oh my god. Yeah, yeah. All right, Cornell University,
- 49:20that's the Ivy League school in upstate New York,
- 49:23has apparently reached the point where its student
- 49:25handbook needs to clarify something most colleges
- 49:28assumed without saying, please do not butcher
- 49:32a bear in the dorm kitchen. The new rule comes
- 49:35after two students at Cornell legally hunted
- 49:39a black bear last September, hauled its big fat
- 49:43furry carcass back toward campus, and when their
- 49:47original processing location fell through, decided
- 49:50the communal kitchen at Ganodago Hall would do
- 49:55just fine, because nothing says college experience
- 49:58quite like microwave Brahman midterms and a 150
- 50:02pound bear on a camouflage tarp. Wait, this is
- 50:05like the smallest bear in the world. There's
- 50:08a little black bear. It's a little dude. Maybe
- 50:11it's like an adolescent black bear. It's a little
- 50:13guy. It's a baby. It's like a fetal bear. I'm
- 50:16kind of sad that they killed a baby like a young
- 50:18bear. Yeah, they hunted a baby bear. Fuck them.
- 50:21Anyway, student Aaron Chin later explained that
- 50:25he and a friend hoped to make black bear pastrami.
- 50:30They should have invited RFK Jr. over. He would
- 50:33have run over the bear with a car. and then like
- 50:37left it for dead and then taking it to his and
- 50:41Cheryl's house to carve up. Before carving up
- 50:45the animal, they even checked Cornell's rules
- 50:47and decided they weren't technically violating
- 50:50any rules, and they were right. The pair had
- 50:53valid hunting licenses. State officials said
- 50:56the bear was legally killed. Cornell eventually
- 50:59decided they did not violate the student conduct
- 51:01code or residential living standards, and the
- 51:04police didn't file any charges. Meanwhile, other
- 51:07students were sitting nearby studying. Some students
- 51:10apparently, however, didn't have any problem
- 51:12with this. Chin said that many were curious and
- 51:16several wanted to know if they could try the
- 51:18bear meat. So the students packaged the bear,
- 51:22labeled the bags with their names, and put them
- 51:24in the communal freezer, presumably somewhere
- 51:27between the frozen pizza and someone's old Trader
- 51:30Joe dumplings. Photos quickly hit social media.
- 51:34There were complaints and Cornell eventually
- 51:37decided to sanitize the kitchen. Now, the university
- 51:41has banned processing wild game inside residential
- 51:45kitchens and recommends that students use professional
- 51:48game processors instead. Wait, so now it's explicitly
- 51:51against the rule. It's on the books now. Right.
- 51:55So if he hunts another bear, he says they'll
- 51:57process it in the woods. This is, okay, this
- 52:03is upstate New York. It's the forest. There are
- 52:06many trees and there are bears. I mean, I gotta
- 52:11say this is annoying because it's like, okay,
- 52:14you did something that people find surprising
- 52:16and off -putting. And then people find out it's
- 52:20not, you check to make sure it's okay. It was
- 52:23okay. You're smart enough to check the rules.
- 52:27Well, and you're doing the right, honestly, you're
- 52:29doing the right thing. You make sure everything's
- 52:31okay. People are like, oh shit, why isn't this
- 52:33illegal? And that now we're going to make it
- 52:35illegal. We're going to try to get you into trouble.
- 52:38I hate that kind of like pussy behavior. It's
- 52:41like, you know, I mean, I guess the thing is
- 52:45if I'd been one of those students, I would have
- 52:46been, I might've been like WTF also, but I wouldn't
- 52:50be dropping the dime on anyone. Hey, it's totally
- 52:52legal. I'd shut the fuck up, right? I mean, yeah,
- 52:56I've never been one to care. I would not care
- 52:58in them. Definitely. This is careening. Somebody
- 53:02caring, somebody careening the I'm going to say
- 53:06it was a girl. I know that's completely sexist
- 53:08of me, but I'm sure I'm sure not many male Karens.
- 53:13I'm yeah, I'm sure it was a girl like I. Oh my
- 53:17god, oh my god, they're cutting up a baby and
- 53:20a bear cub in there. There's a bear cub over
- 53:23there. Oh my god. But I mean, it's kind of gory.
- 53:28You're like gutting. I mean, would I kind of
- 53:32frown upon that? Maybe I feel like they're to
- 53:35be like if I want to go in there to microwave
- 53:37my pizza or whatever. And it's all bloody and
- 53:42occupied with Aaron Chin and his buddy, like
- 53:45hacking up a bear, like skinning this whole thing.
- 53:49I'd be like, gross, dude, I don't wanna like,
- 53:52I wouldn't drop the dime on him, but I'd be annoyed
- 53:54that I can't access the kitchen because there's
- 53:57fucking 150 pounds of bear meat everywhere. So
- 54:00yeah, like the question is, did these boys clean
- 54:04up their mess? That's, I don't care that they
- 54:08did it. Did they properly sanitize afterwards?
- 54:13There's no details on that. So we're only assuming
- 54:16that they did, but I still wouldn't care in them.
- 54:19I'd probably like bitch at them walking in with
- 54:21my pizza and be like, what the fuck, dude? Like,
- 54:24I need a microwave. This is college guys being
- 54:27college guys. I mean, we were always up to no
- 54:32good. So like, you know, I didn't do all these
- 54:36plotting always keeping always always I commuted
- 54:40from home and I worked on and off, you know,
- 54:43like my my college enrollment was like in and
- 54:46out in and out because of working but but I never
- 54:48I never did the dorm life. So I don't know what
- 54:52shenanigans goes on. I never got experience.
- 54:55But I mean, I couldn't I could just go on and
- 54:59on. Yeah. Breaking into the old fallout shelters
- 55:03from the Cold War under the dorm. Breaking into
- 55:09the law school faculty lounge and stealing their
- 55:14sofa for our dorm room. Yeah, I mean kind of
- 55:17relatively harmless stuff. You can't really do
- 55:19that shit anymore now that there's cameras everywhere.
- 55:22Yeah. I just feel like, yeah, this is like boys
- 55:26being boys and like boys do things different.
- 55:29than girls. Just not like, okay. But I'd be pretty
- 55:34annoyed. I'll say that much. I'd be annoyed if
- 55:36I couldn't access the kitchen and I'm studying
- 55:39and these jerks are like occupying the whole
- 55:42kitchen with 150 pounds of bear. Well, honestly,
- 55:46they should have, what if it was like a 3 ,000
- 55:49pound bear? If it was like a full grown bear,
- 55:51oh my God. Yeah, could you imagine? I'm sad about
- 55:54that. Or a grizzly, not that they live in upstate
- 55:57New York, but yeah. I'm more annoyed as adult
- 56:00Manila about that, knowing that it was like an
- 56:03adolescent or perhaps baby bear. Yeah, I don't
- 56:07think it's cool. Come on, you guys suck. Like
- 56:09if you're going to go hunting, be real men, be
- 56:12real men. And if you boys want to be like big
- 56:15badass hunters, like game hunting, go hunt a
- 56:19full grown ass bear. Don't be shooting at the
- 56:23baby. I would give them an earful about that
- 56:27and dirtying up the kitchen while I want to warm
- 56:30up ramen or something. Anyway, so there you go.
- 56:32There's some weird news for Thursday. All kinds
- 56:35of stuff. Totally ADD on this show as someone
- 56:38mentioned in the chat. Yes, it's true. Very much.
- 56:42All over the place. Let's see. No, no, no ads.
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