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SPIEF Part 2: Putin’s Forum, Zakharova’s Red Folder, and the Bucha–Starobelsk Double Standard · International Flavor: Where the Truth Tastes Better

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  So I was talking to you yesterday about SPIEF, S-P-I-E-F, St. Petersburg International Economic
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  Forum. Yesterday I published the show. You know after the show I always put it out online so
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  people can download it on the podcast version at internationalflavor.com and I entitled it
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  SPIEF, S-P-I-E-F, Part One, The Beginning. And I talked about Vladimir Vladimirovich yesterday
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  and his matter, his discussion on the, at the beginning of SPIEF. I spoke a little bit too long
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  and didn't get finished with his initial introduction and you know we spent yesterday
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  talking about, he was talking about the economics and he was talking about
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  you know sovereignty. He was going through the GDP and through all of the various debt loads
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  of the world and talking about how low Russia's debt load is and you know how compared to the
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  rest of the, what do you call it, industrialized world. And that I think is noted. So then he
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  started talking, because there's only like, I forget what he said, 16 percent, 16.4 percent and
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  it may go up to 17 he said in the next year or something. And because of what they have going on
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  and the, we spoke about the threats of Zelensky toward Putin on the open letter which I shared
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  with you, all of it. And then we had gotten to that part but I kind of rushed through it.
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  So I don't want to, I don't want that to be downplayed at all because the response,
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  you know, and I shared Zelensky's letter and all that. So, sorry, I gotta quit watching
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  the screens on TV. They gives me comical stuff, comical relief. Anyway, I want to go back to the
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  old Vladimirovich and at least summarize the rest of his speech about that. Like he had just
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  gotten to the part where he was talking about the Uzbekistan president showing up. And I think
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  this is important because, I don't know if you know this, but there's a, you probably don't know
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  this. I found it interesting when I went to Russia and you go over there all the time. Their Amazon
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  works differently than ours does. It's a different company, of course. It's called
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  Wild Berries, okay? English word, wild berries, everywhere it's wild berries. And, you know,
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  sometimes they can't pronounce it correctly, just like we don't pronounce their rolling R.
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  We don't pronounce their R's correctly in a lot of ways. And, but they all use wild berries and
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  wild berries is their form of Amazon, but it works differently. They still ship it to you,
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  but they have wild berries pickup centers all over the place. So you order it and it comes
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  to your local wild berries pickup centers. And I, and I, what I say all over the place,
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  I really mean all over the place. Like every, in, in the city of Naberezhnye Chelny, if I would
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  walk to the, to the, I don't know, to any morning coffee place, you know, I like to go to a place
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  called Kofta Coffee. And, and their coffee shops are different than ours too. They're extremely
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  nice. You go, let's put it this way. They have coffee stands on the street as well, where you
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  can go and just buy the coffee on the street for, you know, a little bit of money, but you can walk
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  and within, I don't know, a kilometer, let's say you want to get your, your, your, your, you know,
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  get a couple of, get some steps in, right? And you, you walk for your morning coffee and easily
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  within a kilometer, you'll find a very nice coffee place. And you get to go in and they have
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  the, the Russian bakery, you know, with all these beautiful
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  morning treats, if you like that kind of thing. And, you know, similar to some of the things we
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  have here, better than Starbucks, Kofta Coffee was better than Starbucks. And there were a couple of
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  other ones that I really wish I could remember the name for, but it was an event to go to one
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  of those places. And man, it was really nice stuff. And when you walk past them, you'd walk
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  past, to get there, you walk, call it 10, maybe 10, 15 minutes in the morning. And I would pass
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  four freaking Wildberry stores when you walk by to go pick it up. And it's not anywhere far,
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  you know, it's just like from walking from your house to the, the subway station or from your,
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  you know, your apartment to the, to the trolley stops, you know, and, and so it's, it's,
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  everything's within walking distance, you know what I mean? And on the walk there, you'd go past
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  four freaking Wildberries and Wildberries is there. So Putin's talking to, and see, I always
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  get distracted with these stupid stories, but you'd go talk about, he's talking about the growth
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  in, in Russia and the far East compared to the rest of the world and how it's not growing as
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  quickly as it was the GDP percentages and stuff like that, but it's still happening in the,
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  in the center of growth is going to be the far East, the sub, sub, no, the subordinate countries
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  of Russia that were pre previously there Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Armenia,
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  Georgia, Azerbaijan, places like that, all, all down there on the Southern belt of Russia
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  that we've been trying to create chaos there. And, you know, it's, it's happening. I mean,
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  it's, it's reality, just like we have in Ukraine, you know, trying to get countries
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  in the far East to join NATO. I mean, you know, nonsense, but at any rate, he was talking about
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  the president of Uzbekistan being there and he says, today, I've already mentioned our friends
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  and partners and the Republic of Uzbekistan. Here's another prime example. The turnover
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  of Uzbek goods through wild berries platform alone amounted to $418 million in 2023.
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  That was in 2023, two years ago. And in 2025, it is now almost 1.5 billion with the prospect of
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  reaching a level more than $2 billion in the current year. Now, what I told you of having
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  been in Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, um, and, uh, Kazakhstan is the, everybody's pushing a stroller.
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  They're young country. I was, I'm old, you know, I got wandering down the street there and they're
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  all 90 year old going by and they're all young families everywhere. They're, they're, they're
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  everywhere. Young kids all over the place and all pushing strollers, you know, and having families
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  and, uh, spent spending money on coffee and wild berries. I mean, it's a, it's a, it's a good,
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  but you know, I'm not telling you Uzbekistan is the greatest place on the planet, but UNICEF,
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  UNICEF is there spell, uh, uh, repairing all these ancient silk road places. It's freaking amazing.
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  And, uh, you can go and see it. Tourism is amazing. You know, there was a decent number of
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  Americans over there when I went there and there's a lot of Americans go there and teach. They, you
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  know, they get it done with their school and they go over there and teach. They, they learn Russian
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  or Uzbek and they go to a country like that and spend several years and whatever it does pays off
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  your loans or something. There are all kinds of projects like that where you get to see the world
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  and you get to go, uh, be a teacher in these places. You just got to learn a foreign language
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  and you can go and be a teacher because your English is what they want. They want your English
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  and they want you to teach it. You can go to Arabic country, stuff like that. Anyway, continuing
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  with Putin, what does this tell us that producers of goods, different goods, including small and
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  medium sized producers through the structure, through the platform are, are, um, cooperating
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  with the Russian market and not only the Russian market, by the way, the use of our platform and the
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  markets of other countries as well, though, mainly in the case of the Russian market and the volume
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  is growing. The Russian market is definitely growing. People work effectively and earn well.
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  They're small, medium enterprises are developing. And with all of this, it happens through modern
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  logistics, payment of taxes, customs duties. Uh, all of these things can only be well,
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  welcomed turnover. And he means economic turnover has grown by three and a half times and continues
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  to increase, including through all access of all consumers to the Eurasian economic space and to
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  our partner companies, for example, on the dynamic African continent, they're integrating, you know,
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  we're dictating, they're integrating. And this is today, the Russian platform business receives
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  access to almost half a billion potential clients around the world. And the number is growing.
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  So the Russian platform solutions are becoming the real driver of development for our partner
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  economies. Platformization in Russia covers not only trade, but transport finance, logistics,
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  tourism, and areas such as healthcare, education, the media sphere, and others. Of course, it's
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  necessary to increase the pace to engage in further platformization of sectors with the
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  introduction of artificial intelligence and autonomous systems. We've adopted a national
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  strategy for the development of AI. And I asked the government to prepare similar national
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  strategies regarding autonomous systems and digital payment platforms at the future technology forum,
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  which takes place beginning next year, I propose discussing the development of ecosystems
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  of the platform economy. See, he's stealing my word here. I have the modern law ecosystem and
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  we're creating that for you. Go on out to modern law ecosystem.com and check it out.
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  Vladimir Putin. And I asked the relevant interdepartmental mental working groups under
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  the presidential administration to accompany the preparation of this forum. Second, he wants to
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  draw attention to today and in the future, the sovereignty of the country is determined by the
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  people, their knowledge, qualification, ability to master advanced technology and create breakthrough
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  good services, entire market directions. These professional skills, of course, must be well paid.
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  Only in the case of high quality of life and high salaries will our country be competitive,
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  successful demographically and strong specialization and with specialists confident in
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  their successful professional career. And in the future, Russia is one of the most,
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  has one of the lowest unemployment levels among all industrial developed countries.
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  It is approximately 2.2 percent of the active population. This is a very good result compared
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  with other developed states. For comparison, Japan is close to us at 2.5 percent, but India is at 4.2
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  and the United States is at 4.2 and the Eurozone is at 5.9. Over five years, wages in the Russian
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  economy have grown by more than 30 percent in real terms, precisely in real dollars. You know,
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  after accounting for inflation, the pace is certainly high. That's true. I emphasize again,
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  further confident growth of wages must be connected, first of all, with growth in labor
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  productivity as well as the effective organization of production on the base of modern technological
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  solutions. A separate question concerns mobility. When a specialist can find a modern, higher paid
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  work at a new enterprise in another region of the country where the need for personnel is especially
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  high and where production represents growing strategic sectors aimed at producing goods
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  with high added value. I told you about one of these a few weeks ago where they had one, if you
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  want to go to the northeast, you know, the Kamchatka areas of Russia and work on rail and wood projects,
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  those places are booming over there and they're paying huge bonuses to go there. As is known,
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  young people are the most mobile. Those who have just finished their studies or are studying in the
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  final year of institute or university for the good professional start, we agree to legally establish
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  the instrument of internship with clear obligation for the employer, rights for the employees and
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  legal guarantees. We also agree to modernize apprenticeship contracts and adapt them to modern
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  conditions. I know that amendments to the labor code have been prepared. I asked the government
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  and the state Duma to accelerate their adoption. Third, it is obvious that the sovereignty of such
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  a large country as Russia is determined not only by the strength of the capital or several large
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  industrial centers, it is important that every region attract investment, create quality jobs,
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  develop production in the urban environment. At our forum site, exhibition stands have been
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  organized where subjects of the Federation demonstrate strength, success, promising plans.
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  They hold negotiation with investors. That's what SPIEF is all about. And he's talking about this
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  huge forum of people that are there. Traditionally on the sidelines of the forum, the results of the
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  national rating of the state of the investment climate and the subjects of the Russian Federation
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  are summarized. And this year, first place has been shared by Moscow and the republics of Tatarstan,
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  which Tatarstan is where Kazan is, where I went to, where Naberezhnye Tilny is, and Bashkortostan.
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  And Bashkortostan is where a beautiful country, very growing fast in the area. So when you head
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  east from Tatarstan, you run into Ufa. And Ufa is a beautiful city down there. You have Vladikavkaz
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  over in the southeast parts over there on the way to Georgia. And there's some really, really
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  cool places over there. And he's talking about Tatarstan, which I've been to 10 times, maybe.
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  Tatarstan is really pretty cool. And in Bashkortostan. And then they talk about Nizhny Novgorod,
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  which is where I do want to go to Nizhny Novgorod. And Moscow was fantastic last year. And I hadn't
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  been there in a long time. And I didn't spend enough time there, having been there only like,
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  I don't know, 10 days or something, but not enough time to go and see it. This year, I'm going to
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  St. Petersburg. And for the first time, St. Petersburg in the Sakhalin Islands region,
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  entered the number of the best of the best. Among the regions that show the highest dynamics are
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  the Khanty-Mansi and Yamal-Nenetsk Autonomous Okrug. The Okrug is a region district. The Omsk,
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  Vladimir, and Volgograd regions, and the Krasnodar and Primorsky territories. I congratulate you on
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  these results. Anyway, I don't really care about this stuff. When you get to the parts,
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  it has already been discussed. He was talking about finances for quite a bit. He said, I also
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  wanted to point out that we've agreed on the relocation of large state companies and corporations
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  from Moscow to outer regions in order to relieve the capital and give an impulse boost to business
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  development in the other areas of the Federation, strengthen the revenue base of their budgets,
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  and create new jobs in their areas. And this will not harm the overall capital of the country.
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  As a positive example, one may cite the company RusHydro and PSB Bank. A corresponding decision
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  has been made in the United Engine Corporation. Such decisions are in the final stage regarding
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  companies of the Russian Railway Group, as well as other structures working in the field of railway
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  construction. Their railways over there are enormous. And here, you couldn't do it because
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  of our government structure. And I get that. The government structure just wouldn't work. I mean,
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  we all know it would just frigging fail. But over there, it's done with a partnership between the
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  company. And the company is mostly owned by the government for their Zhelezny Drogi. Zhe is what
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  you give. It's two letters, zhe and de. And you are trying to find the railway over there. And
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  it's beautiful because you can get on the railways. It includes all the trolley cars in certain
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  regions, includes the subways in parts of the areas that have subways, includes the
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  on the over-the-road rail, high-speed rail between Moscow, St. Petersburg, includes all that stuff.
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  And so it's definitely growing. Modern entrepreneurship is often not simply business
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  development, but real creation, when more convenient urban environment forms around it,
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  and sometimes entire settlements, comfortable and attractive for life. And we have many such
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  examples. I consider it right to support innovative approaches to private investors. And, you know,
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  I don't, you know, they talk a lot about, he talked about private capital and private business. And he
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  said he wanted to talk about small and medium businesses. Much has already been done. This is
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  where I wanted to get to, because he talked a lot about the bigger businesses and country-driven
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  things like infrastructure that matters so much to development. And much has already been done,
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  so that small and medium-sized, initiative-driven, enterprising people can easily start their own
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  businesses, launch production, and provide services demanded by the population.
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  But when a business grows and develops organizational difficulties and additional
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  financial costs, sometimes a rise in not every entrepreneur is ready to cope with them.
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  It's necessary to minimize the cost and ensure a seamless transition of a business to a higher
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  category, including with the help of ready-made digital solutions. And I asked the government,
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  with the help of their, it's a financial bureau, an economic bureau, to prepare a concept of smooth
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  transitions into the development of growth and business. The reason I'm sharing all this with you
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  is because of the different way that they think. You know, you want to talk about Russia being a
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  dictatorship, or not being a democracy, or whatever. The fact is that they just,
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  they think differently. And by the way, I'm not positive if I don't think a little bit differently.
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  I have a real problem with the fact, excuse me, that American infrastructure just sucks. You know,
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  you can't, it's all private. You know, if you get on American Airlines, you know, their planes are
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  all old and crappy, you know, and you know, that's airfare. And part of it is because it's not
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  owned by the country. There's no capital. It's all about squeezing the last nickel of profit
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  out of a failing fleet, you know. And I don't mean to pick on American. They've been doing some
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  things to upgrade it recently as well, but they're still way behind the world in what they're doing.
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  And Delta's not all that much better. British Airways, definitely not. And it's pretty sad,
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  because the places that you think are dictatorships, like Qatar, and United Arab Emirates,
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  and Turkey, you know, places like that, they have fantastic airlines. Turkish Airways is
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  far better than any of those other ones that I've mentioned. If you're flying internationally,
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  you'd prefer that to their, and they speak English on those planes. They speak Turkish,
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  too. A lot of them speak other languages, but it's, they treat you very well. Oh, look at that.
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  There was a Turkish Airlines plane just showed up on the TV up there, like it was quoting me.
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  But anyway, I say that because economically, our structure may be the best in the world,
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  capitalism, you know, blah, blah, blah. But it's a very select few that are getting billionaires
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  and billionaire sort of stuff. And there's more and more millionaires, but now they're trying to
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  destroy the millionaire class so that they don't become more billionaires. You can't have that
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  competition, can you? And so it's, it's, but they never build anything for the,
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  they never build anything for the global or the countrywide infrastructure, right? It never
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  happens. We don't have anything that is built for railroads, even, you know, bus companies are crap,
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  you know, and you don't, you have small private companies that are nice with nice buses,
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  but there's nothing for, you know, you, you know, where you're going to go in America. The contrast
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  is stark. And I'm not saying that all of Russia's or all of every part of Russia is as modern as
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  Moscow, because it's not. But you can always get a train, it's going to be clean, it's going to be
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  well cared for. You're going to be serviced properly and all of that stuff. And so when
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  you look at the overall infrastructure capital, this economic forum was a big deal.
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  And he finished up with saying, we have set ourselves the task of entering the top 10
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  countries of the world by the total weight of our merchant fleet, because they're talking about
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  merchant fleet. I mean, increasing the capacity of seaports and the Arctic transport corridor
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  is global arteries. We will develop our domestic merchant and icebreaker fleet,
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  which is already the largest in the world, build tankers and other vessels of various classes.
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  I asked the government and the Ministry of Transport to continue working to increase the
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  attractiveness of the national merchant ship flag, our own logistical production, technological and
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  financial base, a predictable environment for business and the development of human resources
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  are powerful competitive advantages in the global market. They are the guarantee of successful work
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  with countries and investors who are interested in cooperation and partnership, who want to create
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  an increase, mutually beneficial alliances with us, invest in Russia and joint business,
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  and invite our companies to cooperate. I'm confident that holding such events as the St.
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  Petersburg Economic Forum will make its substantial contribution to this large and very important work
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  and will allow all of us to achieve further success on the path of prosperity
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  for our country and our people. Thank you for your attention. Now, the contrast with what he had said,
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  so this interview, you know, he, or this opening part was really a pretty,
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  a pretty, people talk about the old Trumpster being a CEO. Well, you need to think of Vladimir
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  Vladimirovich as one too, because he is. I read a report, couldn't have been five, six years ago,
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  that he is probably the richest man in the world. And they don't know for positive, but
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  the, all of the, all of the control of the government, certainly he controls it. And so
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  when he directs it, it's like Trump directing it when he says, I want, you know, I want people,
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  and Xi Jinping, they think the same way. I thought that way of the sovereign prince in Qatar. You
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  know, he ran the country. It was him, right? And, and his people did what he said. And as long as
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  he's a decent person who gives a rip, you know, if the trains are running on time and everything is
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  going well, I don't give a crap. It's not like they're stringing people up by the scrotum or
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  anything like that. They're not doing anything weird. They're, they're, they're, they're running
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  a country. And we're allowed to accept that from a businessman or from the president over here and
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  accept it there. I think they do. You know, I don't ever want to say that they do not, but just
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  because your name is Xi Jinping or Putin doesn't mean that the same thing isn't happening in the
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  United States. I think it is. I think we all know it is, but you know, it's not something to talk
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  about. So a difference in government doesn't necessarily means one's better than the other.
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  So he talked about the state visit of Putin to Kazakhstan as well. And they wanted to know about
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  the seven foundations of friendship and good neighborliness and Russia's gift of Amur tigers
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  to Kazakhstan. They, you know, Putin presented him with them when he visited a little while ago.
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  And Putin says relations with Kazakhstan are developing successfully and they're on the rise,
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  but there's an important detail. Kazakhstan is not an easy partner. The two sides have sharp
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  discussions on finance, industry, investment condition, major projects, but both sides will
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  compromise because the shared goal is development and higher living standard. So he's a diplomat.
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  He avoids exaggeration and says, you know, real partners argue, but they solve problems. I think
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  that's important. And so Putin presents Kazakhstan, not as a subordinate of Russia, because they're
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  not, but as a difficult and serious partner, which, uh, you know, that's where their, their,
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  uh, air, uh, what do you call it? Space ports were, were Kazakhstan. That's where their nuclear
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  testing was back during Soviet Union, Kazakhstan, all of that. And in the, in the deserts and in the
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  oil fields out there, Kazakhstan is beautiful, by the way. Um, they talked about that. They talked
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  about China and, and his, his relation with China and he, you know, Putin, he said the question was
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  that they, they, Russia turned East when they were rejected by the West. And he said, and he said,
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  and it was an interesting answer. He said, uh, we reject the claim by the West, which they love to
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  throw out there that Russia suddenly turned toward Asia after Ukraine, you know, the conflict, uh,
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  escalated in 2022. He says, Russia didn't change course and made no sudden pivot. He said the
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  foundation of Russia Chinese relations was laid in 2001 in the treaty. And the relationship rests
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  on geography, geography, geographic history, and mutual interest. Uh, his key idea is Russian,
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  China are natural partners because they're neighbors. They have a border, uh, two thirds,
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  as long as the border between the U S and Canada, it's very long, 4,000 kilometers. And you don't
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  get to choose who your neighbors are and you don't. So you might as well get along with them.
• 30:25
  And if you don't get along with your neighbor, you're an idiot. Figure out, figure out how to
• 30:29
  make it work somehow.
• 30:31
  And he stresses that China's rise is not
• 30:35
  something Russia watched.
• 30:37
  They cooperated with it while China developed.
• 30:40
  And he emphasized trade, military, military technical
• 30:43
  cooperation, AI, high technology, biology, genetics.
• 30:47
  They're partners.
• 30:49
  And Putin's China answer was aimed at beating up
• 30:55
  on a Western assumption that Russia has
• 30:57
  been pushed into China's arms.
• 31:00
  And his answer is that, no, this was always
• 31:03
  where history, geographic concerns,
• 31:06
  and economic reality were going anyway.
• 31:10
  They talked about India, which we're going to skip.
• 31:12
  Here's the Western slash Ukraine question.
• 31:18
  Rubio and his comments, stupid comments.
• 31:22
  Russian losses, Donbass in negotiation.
• 31:25
  A journalist cited Ukrainian drone attacks
• 31:28
  in St. Petersburg, smoke in St. Petersburg,
• 31:32
  disruption at the airport, alleged falling
• 31:35
  Russian ratings and economy.
• 31:37
  And Marco Rubio's claim that Russia's invasion
• 31:41
  has created a catastrophe in Russia itself.
• 31:46
  So the question asked Putin whether he
• 31:49
  wants to control all of the Donbass or make a deal.
• 31:53
  And Putin said, these two things are not contradictory.
• 31:58
  Controlling Donbass and making a deal
• 32:00
  can both be part of the same process.
• 32:06
  In fact, he said that's what they agreed upon with Trump.
• 32:09
  He then gives a battlefield answer.
• 32:12
  Now remember, the letter that I shared with you yesterday
• 32:14
  from the Green Goblin said that Russia
• 32:18
  was losing $30,000 a month.
• 32:20
  And Russian forces, and I don't believe those numbers anyway,
• 32:26
  but pay attention to this.
• 32:29
  Russian forces are advancing along the entire line
• 32:32
  of contact, Prikaznavinia.
• 32:35
  And that is 1,100 kilometer, 1,000 kilometer front
• 32:44
  that they're fighting along.
• 32:46
  And they're advancing steadily, daily, across it all.
• 32:51
  Sometimes bigger stuff, but they're advancing.
• 32:54
  And he says they're advancing along the entire line.
• 32:57
  That's true.
• 32:59
  Ukraine has a, his words, catastrophic shortage
• 33:02
  of manpower.
• 33:04
  Ukrainian monthly losses are around 40,000,
• 33:08
  according to Putin.
• 33:10
  Forced mobilization, this boosification
• 33:14
  and beating the crap out of people
• 33:15
  and throwing them into vans and then transporting them
• 33:18
  to the front line, produces about 15,000 to 16,000
• 33:22
  per month.
• 33:24
  About 14,000 are taken straight out of the hospital
• 33:29
  and returned to the front lines.
• 33:32
  Ukraine is losing around 10,000 per month,
• 33:36
  plus around 20,000 deserters monthly.
• 33:41
  So desertation is a huge problem, desertion.
• 33:46
  He says Russia fully controls Lugansk
• 33:49
  and controls more than 85% of the Donetsk People's Republic
• 33:54
  and 80% of Zaporizhia.
• 33:57
  So they got 15% of Donetsk and 20% of Zaporizhia,
• 34:01
  according to him.
• 34:02
  He says Russia wants peace on the basis of the compromise
• 34:05
  discussed with Trump in Anchorage,
• 34:07
  but Ukraine won't accept those compromises.
• 34:11
  So the answer, according to Putin,
• 34:15
  is battlefield diplomacy formulation.
• 34:20
  He does not say military action excludes negotiation.
• 34:24
  He says military success creates the basis for the negotiation.
• 34:29
  The adversarial test is that his casualty numbers
• 34:32
  and territory percentage are Russian figures.
• 34:35
  So they want to push back and go, yeah,
• 34:38
  but our figures are different.
• 34:39
  Well, you're lying about, do I believe that all these people
• 34:43
  are being up front?
• 34:44
  I don't think so.
• 34:45
  But when dead bodies are turned over
• 34:47
  and Russia turns over 10,000 and Ukraine turns over 40,
• 34:53
  what does that mean?
• 34:54
  Are you saying they're burying them in Ukraine?
• 34:58
  I doubt it.
• 34:59
  What are they doing, dumping them in the ocean,
• 35:02
  feeding them to the sharks?
• 35:03
  What the hell?
• 35:03
  If we're matching, why aren't there corresponding numbers?
• 35:10
  So I don't know.
• 35:14
  I'm far more interested in the war ending
• 35:24
  than in what the numbers are.
• 35:26
  They're all getting slaughtered, and it's not good.
• 35:29
  But the Ukrainians can't fill their gap, not at all.
• 35:34
  So let's talk about Reshnik a little bit.
• 35:39
  The moderator asked about retaliatory strikes
• 35:42
  and on Reshnik.
• 35:43
  And Putin's answer was interesting.
• 35:45
  He said Russia's new systems appeared, including Reshnik.
• 35:49
  But he says Russia has never been
• 35:51
  able to use Reshnik in Ukraine in the full combat mode
• 35:59
  because they hadn't tested it.
• 36:01
  He said some strikes were used in Ukraine
• 36:05
  to observe results, where the separating blocks landed,
• 36:09
  how accurately they were dispersed,
• 36:11
  and what that means for future full-scale application
• 36:14
  against designated targets.
• 36:17
  It was an unusually technical and blunt answer.
• 36:20
  He didn't make this up.
• 36:23
  If I'm a lawyer cross-examining him, he's like, well,
• 36:27
  we've been testing those over there.
• 36:28
  And he was pretty matter of fact about it
• 36:30
  because we haven't really had a chance to test them,
• 36:33
  certainly not in battle.
• 36:34
  But they're certainly not at their full capability.
• 36:39
  He says Russia has used combat conditions
• 36:42
  to evaluate the effects, but he didn't characterize it
• 36:45
  as full operational use.
• 36:47
  He said that will probably be prepared in the very near
• 36:50
  future, but that they're not doing it.
• 36:53
  They talk about the role of Germany, Mertz,
• 36:56
  and all these other people.
• 36:57
  I'm going to skip that part.
• 36:59
  The alternative for Germany in Nord Stream,
• 37:02
  though, was important.
• 37:03
  They asked about AFD for Germany,
• 37:06
  whose members attended the forum and support restoring
• 37:10
  Russian gas through the Nord Stream pipeline.
• 37:12
  There were several of them there in the audience that
• 37:15
  cheered or whatever.
• 37:17
  Putin says it would be improper to evaluate
• 37:22
  German political parties, but he says
• 37:24
  AFD is leading in German political ratings
• 37:28
  because its leaders are formulating
• 37:30
  interests that align with the German people
• 37:32
  and the German economy.
• 37:35
  Mertz, on the other hand, is what?
• 37:36
  He's at 21% or something like that.
• 37:39
  There was a meeting yesterday in Britain
• 37:43
  with Mertz, Macron, and Starmer.
• 37:47
  Between the three of them, not a one of them
• 37:52
  is above 25% favorability.
• 37:56
  Not a one.
• 37:57
  And they get together with Zelensky
• 37:59
  and hug it out outside the building and have a meeting
• 38:04
  and demand that Russia capitulates.
• 38:06
  Did you hear that yesterday?
• 38:07
  It was frigging nuts.
• 38:09
  Anyway, Putin was careful to avoid a direct endorsement
• 38:13
  of AFD.
• 38:14
  He's a politician.
• 38:16
  But he said, you know, it's really
• 38:17
  Germany is economically harming itself.
• 38:20
  One of the pipes of Nord Stream is fully capable
• 38:24
  and turned on tomorrow.
• 38:25
  And he said, I'm telling you, all you got to do
• 38:27
  is push the button.
• 38:28
  I'll push that button for you tomorrow.
• 38:30
  I'll push it.
• 38:31
  You want to do business with us?
• 38:33
  It's up to you.
• 38:34
  If you don't, fine.
• 38:35
  But I'll push the button if you want to do it.
• 38:40
  Let's see.
• 38:41
  I talked to you about Ukraine and the peace
• 38:43
  and what's presenting long-term peace.
• 38:46
  Putin says the solution would lie
• 38:48
  in the framework of the understandings discussed
• 38:51
  in Anchorage.
• 38:53
  Russia was asked whether it's ready for compromise.
• 38:57
  And Putin has said, yes.
• 38:58
  The problem, he said, is that Ukraine is not
• 39:00
  ready because peace would worsen internal political
• 39:04
  and economic problems in Kiev.
• 39:07
  It's actually true.
• 39:09
  He says the EU could play a positive role
• 39:12
  by not supplying weapons and by persuading
• 39:15
  Kiev to accept the compromises that have already
• 39:18
  been discussed.
• 39:21
  He talked about Azerbaijan, Kyrgyzstan, France, Reuters,
• 39:27
  Trump, Iran, and Putin's future.
• 39:30
  They want to know whether Trump has been distracted
• 39:32
  from Ukraine by the Iran crisis, whether Trump underestimated
• 39:37
  the complexity of negotiations, and whether Putin plans
• 39:41
  to remain in power until 2036.
• 39:44
  On his own future, Putin says only God
• 39:47
  knows whether anyone will have the health
• 39:49
  to live until tomorrow, much less 2036.
• 39:52
  He says it's too early to discuss 2030
• 39:55
  and that he isn't even thinking about it.
• 39:58
  On Trump, Putin said Trump sincerely
• 40:01
  wants to resolve the Ukraine crisis
• 40:03
  but didn't expect the complication.
• 40:06
  He says Ukraine is a local crisis,
• 40:08
  but Europe is giving it global significance.
• 40:12
  Iran, though, is clearly global because
• 40:14
  of the straits of Hormuz and the world economy.
• 40:17
  He says Trump's proposals on Ukraine
• 40:21
  can form the basis of peace if Ukraine can
• 40:24
  be persuaded to accept them.
• 40:27
  Putin always treats Trump with respect.
• 40:31
  He doesn't ever say anything negative about Trump.
• 40:36
  And I think that's important.
• 40:38
  Of course, he doesn't say much negative about anybody.
• 40:41
  He just doesn't.
• 40:43
  And sometimes, every once in a while,
• 40:47
  he'll get Green Goblin'd, I guess.
• 40:54
  But he didn't even say anything negative about that
• 40:57
  when he was asked.
• 40:58
  I shared with you about the Roboty Tiberatia comment
• 41:01
  yesterday, where he says, work, brothers, work, to the army.
• 41:06
  And you wanted to say that that wasn't
• 41:08
  a moment for the people of Russia
• 41:11
  because they all know what that means.
• 41:14
  And by the way, historically, they know what that means.
• 41:19
  He was asked about Iran, about NATO, about India and China,
• 41:24
  and Zelensky's open letter.
• 41:29
  And he wasn't even rude here.
• 41:33
  He said that Zelensky discussed his age, his time in power,
• 41:38
  his guarantors.
• 41:40
  Zelensky rejected Anchorage and wants real guarantees
• 41:44
  in Europe.
• 41:45
  And he asks why Zelensky is rejecting the Trump
• 41:49
  administration while still wanting the US weapons and boots
• 41:55
  on the ground in between Russia and Ukraine.
• 42:00
  He mocks him for his dress code.
• 42:05
  And he said that a Russian businessman called him
• 42:13
  three weeks ago and said he was invited to Kiev
• 42:17
  and wanted to know if he should go.
• 42:19
  And Putin told him that he should go,
• 42:21
  but he's not going as any sort of official negotiator
• 42:26
  because diplomacy has to be handled
• 42:28
  by the foreign ministry, the defense ministry,
• 42:31
  and trained officials.
• 42:32
  The businessman went to Kiev and met Zelensky.
• 42:36
  He returned and reported that Zelensky
• 42:39
  wanted a meeting with Putin.
• 42:42
  Putin says he never refused a meeting in principle,
• 42:45
  but he saw no point in meeting just to pour from an empty jug,
• 42:51
  is what he said.
• 42:53
  A Russian idiom meant to engage in empty, meaningless
• 42:58
  pustyaka, stupidity, emptiness, nothing.
• 43:02
  He references the Minsk agreements
• 43:06
  and says Russia has already been burned by these agreements that
• 43:10
  were admitted by Western leaders to have been used
• 43:12
  to buy time to arm Ukraine.
• 43:15
  He talked about Stary Belsk and the Lugansk college attack,
• 43:19
  which I'm going to get to next with Zakharova.
• 43:22
  Says that on May 21, Ukrainian forces
• 43:26
  carried out a terrorist strike on a college dorm in Lugansk
• 43:30
  where children and teenagers died.
• 43:32
  21 of them, I think it was.
• 43:34
  He says there's no military objects nearby, not even
• 43:37
  a military vehicle.
• 43:38
  He says he called the Russian intermediary and said,
• 43:41
  what does this mean?
• 43:42
  They ask for a meeting and then commit such an act?
• 43:45
  The intermediary had nothing to say to him.
• 43:48
  And Putin says that he told him, I'm
• 43:50
  not going to speak with them.
• 43:52
  Not after that.
• 43:53
  He rejected Zelensky's open letter.
• 43:56
  So Zelensky then writes this foolish letter.
• 44:01
  And he said his letter contained elements of rudeness.
• 44:08
  This is not diplomacy.
• 44:09
  This is what I said when I read it to you.
• 44:11
  He asked whether this is a way to create conditions
• 44:14
  for personal talks or a way to create an atmosphere
• 44:17
  where personal meetings are impossible.
• 44:20
  He answers that he thinks it's the second.
• 44:23
  And then he turns to the soldiers.
• 44:29
  Instead of addressing soldiers, he
• 44:31
  says one should address not the authors of the letter,
• 44:34
  but the lovers of the military genre.
• 44:39
  And not lovers of the, what do they call them, epistles?
• 44:45
  You know, where you send letters back and forth?
• 44:47
  Not these sort of lovers of grammatical drama,
• 44:53
  but Russian fighters at the line of attack.
• 44:56
  And I told you what he said yesterday,
• 44:58
  that the best translation was work, brothers, work.
• 45:04
  Carry on.
• 45:05
  Keep doing what you're doing.
• 45:07
  Do your duty and keep on trucking.
• 45:10
  And it's a Russian symbol of courage, duty,
• 45:15
  continuing the mission under threat.
• 45:18
  So when Putin was using it, he wasn't just saying do your job.
• 45:21
  He was talking a patriotic and sacrificial phrase
• 45:25
  recognizable to many Russian listeners.
• 45:29
  And so that is the end of it.
• 45:38
  If you don't watch these type of things,
• 45:40
  or you're not being provided all the news that
• 45:45
  comes from this type of thing, you'd
• 45:49
  be thinking that, unfortunately, there's
• 45:52
  truth on the side of the Green Goblin, you know,
• 45:59
  and his nonsense that he's putting out.
• 46:04
  Let us take a call.
• 46:06
  Are you with me there, caller?
• 46:09
  Yeah, sure am.
• 46:11
  Well, what can I do for you this morning?
• 46:16
  It's my turn to be bigoted on your station.
• 46:19
  Y'all take turns.
• 46:22
  Why is this y'all?
• 46:23
  Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
• 46:24
  What are you adding me to some mix of what?
• 46:28
  Did you say bigotry?
• 46:30
  Yep.
• 46:31
  Well, how am I involved in bigotry?
• 46:36
  I hear you all the time.
• 46:38
  That I'm a bigot?
• 46:40
  Tell me what have I said that's a bigotry kind of thing?
• 46:47
  What is it?
• 46:48
  Everything ain't about you, man.
• 46:50
  I didn't say it's about me.
• 46:53
  Tell me how I'm a bigot first.
• 46:55
  You called, said I'm a bigot.
• 46:57
  And I told you I don't like it when you call and insult me
• 46:59
  right off the bat.
• 47:01
  Tell me how I'm a bigot if you believe that to be the case.
• 47:05
  You can't just call, say I'm a bigot, and then move on.
• 47:09
  You know, that's nonsense.
• 47:11
  I can't do it.
• 47:13
  I listened to you ad nauseam.
• 47:15
  I don't remember anything you say.
• 47:17
  Well, then how do you remember that I'm a bigot?
• 47:21
  Because I listened to you.
• 47:23
  I see.
• 47:24
  OK.
• 47:24
  Well, quickly, you know what?
• 47:27
  I'll let you quickly get to your point.
• 47:29
  But you listen to me.
• 47:32
  You don't remember any of it.
• 47:34
  Why do you listen?
• 47:37
  What's the point?
• 47:38
  You listen to the radio program, to everybody's program on here,
• 47:42
  and then call and want to call people names.
• 47:45
  You know what, Jim?
• 47:45
  I don't have time for that.
• 47:46
  Call back when you're ready to speak normally
• 47:49
  and have a chat with me without insulting people, OK?
• 47:54
  And there he goes.
• 47:56
  And I don't understand that at all.
• 47:59
  I'm always nice to that guy.
• 48:02
  I don't ever, I don't know what.
• 48:04
  He just calls with these off-the-wall things.
• 48:06
  And if you don't want to listen, don't listen.
• 48:10
  Nobody's requiring you to tune in every morning.
• 48:13
  And you don't have to do it.
• 48:16
  And I appreciate that you listen.
• 48:17
  I even like talking to you sometimes, OK?
• 48:21
  But I don't like it when all you do
• 48:24
  is call in and beat up on people.
• 48:28
  The other shows, they have their own program.
• 48:32
  I don't tell them what to say.
• 48:33
  I don't discuss with them what they're saying.
• 48:36
  I listen to them as much as I can.
• 48:39
  You know, I'm a busy man, too.
• 48:41
  But I don't sit and listen to them all
• 48:43
  and then call and say, you're all bigots.
• 48:45
  What the hell is that?
• 48:47
  And if you think it, call them and tell them a bigot.
• 48:50
  Don't tell me I am, because I'm not.
• 48:52
  And at least certainly have something to back it up, OK?
• 48:57
  You have nothing to back that up with, because number one,
• 49:00
  I'm not a bigot.
• 49:01
  Number two, even if it was, I'd apologize
• 49:04
  if you could point something out that would say,
• 49:07
  you know, I'm the type of guy that I'll try to make it right,
• 49:09
  if at all possible.
• 49:11
  Anyway, sorry for the little rant.
• 49:14
  But I was going to click on a musical part for you
• 49:21
  and give you a break, because I want
• 49:24
  to speak about Maria Zakharova and her discussion of exactly
• 49:30
  what Vladimir Vladimirovich was talking about when he talked
• 49:35
  about Starobelsk and the bombing of that school, which
• 49:45
  was kind of disappointing.
• 49:49
  And I dislike that in its entirety.
• 49:56
  I just don't like it.
• 50:00
  Let's see.
• 50:04
  Where is the song I wished to play for you?
• 50:08
  I believe this is it.
• 50:12
  It is.
• 50:13
  This one I particularly liked.
• 50:15
  Hold on.
• 50:17
  We're going to play one song for you.
• 50:19
  It's six minutes or so.
• 50:21
  So please enjoy.
• 50:25
  And there it goes.
• 50:27
  That was our music for today.
• 50:30
  That was a remix of Ugalyok on the corner, basically.
• 50:36
  The corner, you know, something like that.
• 50:41
  Let's see.
• 50:42
  Very good stuff, Maynard.
• 50:45
  I wanted to share with you, because it was actually
• 50:51
  an emotional sort of thing.
• 50:53
  I told you whilst I was engaged in grass mowing, which
• 50:59
  took me for freaking ever because I let it go for a while
• 51:02
  and it was way overgrown, that I listened to the two things,
• 51:11
  the economic forum and I listened
• 51:15
  to Maria Zakharova and her speech.
• 51:19
  I'd gotten some advertisement that she had spoken
• 51:23
  or was going to be speaking about the Starobelsk
• 51:29
  and what happened there, and the lack of any attention being
• 51:35
  paid to it by the East.
• 51:36
  And sure enough, she gave a brutal kind of a takedown.
• 51:43
  And I'll tell you what, she began with the setting.
• 51:53
  She's talking about St. Petersburg, the St.
• 51:57
  Petersburg International Economic Forum,
• 52:00
  international economic and diplomatic activity,
• 52:04
  and then shifted to June the 4th, which
• 52:08
  has an international holiday.
• 52:09
  And that holiday is the International Day
• 52:12
  of Innocent Children, Victims of Aggression Day,
• 52:17
  children dying in war, basically.
• 52:19
  And that date is important to her.
• 52:22
  She then says that the Starobelsk attack
• 52:27
  will remain a central theme of Russian diplomatic
• 52:30
  and informational work.
• 52:33
  And like Putin, when he talked about it at speech,
• 52:35
  he was saying that a businessman went over,
• 52:41
  was trying to set a meeting between him
• 52:44
  and the Green Goblin.
• 52:46
  And then when he came back, Putin said, well,
• 52:50
  you're not a diplomat, but let's see what we can do.
• 52:54
  And then he called the guy and said, no, wait a minute.
• 52:56
  How can they want to talk to us and then blow up
• 53:00
  a school where people are becoming teachers?
• 53:02
  And this school deal was a big deal.
• 53:06
  And they double tapped it, 16 drones
• 53:09
  in three different waves with some serious firepower on them
• 53:13
  that went over and blew up a dormitory where
• 53:18
  16- to 19-year-old children were living and preparing
• 53:23
  for their careers as teachers and stuff like that,
• 53:27
  learning school.
• 53:28
  And so Russia has been up in arms about this.
• 53:31
  And the West won't even talk about it, nothing.
• 53:35
  And in Starobelsk, here's what it is.
• 53:40
  She wants to talk about that.
• 53:42
  And so she says, the West demands moral outrage,
• 53:48
  verification, humanization, and permanent memory
• 53:51
  if the victims happen to fit Ukrainian narrative,
• 53:55
  but they demand additional verification,
• 53:58
  are completely silent, or just deny it
• 54:01
  when the victims are Russian.
• 54:04
  And so she named the dead.
• 54:08
  And she showed the photographs.
• 54:12
  She described who they were.
• 54:15
  She asks the same media system that
• 54:17
  turned Butcha, which was nothing but a lie,
• 54:20
  into a global moral symbol.
• 54:24
  She challenges them to take a look at Starobelsk.
• 54:27
  And they won't.
• 54:28
  They absolutely won't.
• 54:29
  You won't hear a word about it here in the United States.
• 54:32
  Nobody talks about it.
• 54:35
  And what's his name?
• 54:37
  Sanchez was allegedly flying over there to go to the scene.
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  And she told him to be careful in the three-hour thing
• 54:45
  that she was talking about.
• 54:46
  And she did a lot of topics.
• 54:48
  But the first 20, 30 minutes of it was all Starobelsk
• 54:51
  and was talking about Rick Sanchez going over there.
• 54:57
  You can find him on YouTube.
• 54:58
  He has a kind of a cool channel.
• 55:01
  And he can be believed, let's put it that way.
• 55:07
  It's his own independent station.
• 55:09
  And so you can believe that, most of it.
• 55:13
  And well, you choose what to believe, not for me to say.
• 55:17
  But I'm far more likely to believe his broadcasts
• 55:24
  than others paid for by the big dollar people
• 55:29
  or by the US government, for sure.
• 55:31
  Don't trust that crap at all.
• 55:35
  But Zakharova described Starobelsk
• 55:38
  as a deliberate Ukrainian strike on a civilian educational
• 55:44
  facility and dormitory.
• 55:47
  And it's connected to the Starobelsk Professional
• 55:51
  College of the Lugansk Pedagogical University.
• 55:55
  And a pedagogue is like a professor, a teacher.
• 56:00
  And her version of the difference between how
• 56:11
  she talks about the difference of or the contrast
• 56:15
  between the way that the US or the Western journalists
• 56:22
  just ignore crap unless they want it propagandized.
• 56:29
  They just completely ignore it.
• 56:31
  And I shared with you when Nibinzia at the UN
• 56:37
  spoke about it.
• 56:38
  And he called him out on it.
• 56:40
  And then they said, we just don't have any evidence of it.
• 56:44
  The lady in charge from wherever, she was Danish,
• 56:48
  I think, was saying, well, there's just no evidence of it.
• 56:52
  My ass, there's all kinds of evidence of it.
• 56:56
  And you just don't want to pay any attention to it
• 56:59
  because you don't like it.
• 57:00
  It's like the 200 girls getting blown up in Iran.
• 57:06
  You don't like that.
• 57:07
  And I'd respect the process more.
• 57:11
  My problem is process related.
• 57:13
  I'd respect the process more if you at least acknowledged it
• 57:20
  and said, you know, war sucks.
• 57:23
  And sometimes mistakes are made.
• 57:26
  I'd prefer that you said, you know,
• 57:29
  you told the truth that an event happened.
• 57:31
  But not us, not the West.
• 57:34
  And us, I try not, but here in the West,
• 57:37
  we definitely will propagandize in the littlest,
• 57:42
  the tiniest of events if we can twist it our way
• 57:46
  and expand it into something it's not.
• 57:48
  But the truth, we aren't going to say anything about that.
• 57:53
  We won't even put it out or have the opportunity
• 57:56
  for the narrative to be anything other than the Green Goblin's
• 58:01
  letter, let's say, or anything like that.
• 58:04
  So there were three strikes.
• 58:08
  And one of them was used to target the emergency workers
• 58:14
  after they showed up.
• 58:16
  Three young men and 18 girls died.
• 58:20
  She and the entire government is using the phrase terrorist
• 58:25
  attack repeatedly.
• 58:28
  And Starobelsk was a targeted Ukrainian drone strike
• 58:32
  on a civilian college dorm that killed 21 young people,
• 58:39
  three young men and 18 women, and then
• 58:42
  additional strikes on rescuers that
• 58:45
  were trying to clean it up.
• 58:48
  And here's some of what she said.
• 58:52
  And I wanted to share this with you
• 58:54
  because it's part of the way that she, I like
• 59:04
  the way she speaks and attacks.
• 59:06
  She's an attack dog, and it's pretty cool to watch her do it.
• 59:11
  She said, unfortunately, we have something
• 59:13
  to say today about our children.
• 59:16
  At the last briefing that I gave you,
• 59:19
  this is where I told you I heard about what she said
• 59:23
  she was going to do this time, I promised
• 59:25
  that the terrorist attack in Starobelsk
• 59:28
  would become a central direction of the information
• 59:31
  and political work of our entire ministry, our embassies
• 59:35
  and consulates, and our permanent missions
• 59:37
  to the international organizations today.
• 59:40
  I'm going to return to this topic again,
• 59:43
  and I will continue to do so.
• 59:45
  I want to return to the reaction,
• 59:48
  or rather the absence of a reaction,
• 59:51
  from the specialized international organizations.
• 59:55
  And take a look.
• 59:57
  They even have a special date for this.
• 1:00:00
  They could have prepared June the 4th, she's talking about.
• 1:00:04
  Their most important task, as written
• 1:00:07
  into their founding documents, is to do everything possible,
• 1:00:11
  and by the way, to even try to do the impossible,
• 1:00:15
  so that such monstrous events are not repeated.
• 1:00:21
  I'm speaking now not only about Western countries, whose
• 1:00:27
  politically motivated action or inaction
• 1:00:31
  is essentially present and ignoring,
• 1:00:35
  in actual blindness, and frankly,
• 1:00:39
  their cynical, brazen, shameless lies
• 1:00:43
  regarding the cold-blooded murder of children
• 1:00:47
  in Starobelsk, which no longer surprises everyone, anyone.
• 1:00:52
  Everything is clear with them.
• 1:00:55
  We have many questions for them, but their silence
• 1:00:58
  does not surprise us.
• 1:01:00
  We do have questions for international organizations
• 1:01:04
  that are aligned with them.
• 1:01:06
  So I want to ask you again, on June the 4th, 2026,
• 1:01:10
  will the United Nations and its secretariat wake up?
• 1:01:15
  Today is not Saturday or Sunday.
• 1:01:17
  Today is a working day.
• 1:01:19
  Will this structure find the strength
• 1:01:21
  to say that on the eve of June the 4th,
• 1:01:24
  this very international day, when children
• 1:01:27
  who become victims of armed conflict are remembered,
• 1:01:31
  will they remember the children who were killed in Starobelsk?
• 1:01:36
  I do not know.
• 1:01:38
  Perhaps they are embarrassed that these children were
• 1:01:41
  17 or 18 years old, and perhaps for them, that means
• 1:01:46
  they are somehow not children.
• 1:01:48
  Then let them say that, and we will listen
• 1:01:51
  to that explanation too.
• 1:01:55
  We have questions for those very structures
• 1:01:57
  that have been created.
• 1:01:59
  And this is written precisely into the preamble
• 1:02:02
  of the Charter of the United Nations in a direct quote,
• 1:02:07
  to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which
• 1:02:11
  twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow
• 1:02:15
  to mankind, and to reaffirm faith
• 1:02:18
  in fundamental human rights and in the dignity
• 1:02:21
  and worth of humanity.
• 1:02:25
  All right.
• 1:02:26
  So they do not protect the human person
• 1:02:29
  when they encourage the financing of the Kiev regime,
• 1:02:32
  which commits terrorist attacks.
• 1:02:35
  But surely, they cannot forget the worth of the human person
• 1:02:38
  simply when it is convenient and necessary to say
• 1:02:43
  words of condolence and sympathy in connection
• 1:02:47
  with the deaths of children?
• 1:02:49
  In 1989, Audrey Hepburn, the greatest actress
• 1:02:53
  of world stature, the great actress of world stature,
• 1:02:58
  was appointed as a UN goodwill ambassador.
• 1:03:01
  In 1989, speaking before the staff of the UN Secretariat,
• 1:03:07
  she said the words that became the official motto of UNICEF.
• 1:03:12
  I speak for those children who cannot speak for themselves.
• 1:03:19
  Since then, that is exactly how the task of all goodwill
• 1:03:23
  ambassadors has been formulated, to speak
• 1:03:27
  on behalf of those who cannot do so themselves,
• 1:03:30
  so the truth about the suffering of children
• 1:03:33
  does not remain forgotten, so that it does not
• 1:03:36
  remain unheard, so that their deaths do not pass unnoticed.
• 1:03:41
  That is why all employees of the divisions of our country's
• 1:03:46
  foreign ministry are working and will continue
• 1:03:48
  to work so that objective information,
• 1:03:51
  including about the terrorist attack in Starobelsk,
• 1:03:54
  is available even where they are trying with all their strength
• 1:03:58
  not to let it in and building real barricades
• 1:04:03
  of lies and omission.
• 1:04:05
  No, this is not propaganda.
• 1:04:08
  This is not an attempt to convey information so that later they
• 1:04:12
  cannot say that no one saw the data.
• 1:04:15
  This is not an element of an information war,
• 1:04:18
  as it is a fashionable to say.
• 1:04:21
  This is something that, for some reason,
• 1:04:23
  has disappeared altogether from the international legal
• 1:04:27
  vocabulary, moral duty.
• 1:04:30
  Moral duty means carrying the voice
• 1:04:32
  of those who can no longer do it themselves.
• 1:04:36
  It means forcing the world to hear the words,
• 1:04:39
  to accept the truth that very many would like to hide.
• 1:04:44
  Three young men and 18 girls who
• 1:04:46
  studied at the Starobelsk Professional College of Lugansk
• 1:04:50
  will never be able to say anything again.
• 1:04:53
  They will not be able to because they died.
• 1:04:56
  And if we call things by their proper names,
• 1:04:59
  they were killed in a terrorist attack,
• 1:05:01
  cold-bloodedly, cynically, and terribly.
• 1:05:05
  It is terrifying because such people exist,
• 1:05:08
  people who fire three rounds at an educational institution,
• 1:05:13
  three rounds of 16 total drones, three
• 1:05:19
  rounds at an educational institution and its dormitory,
• 1:05:22
  understanding that children are living there,
• 1:05:26
  and then begin shelling those who
• 1:05:28
  come to help to try and clear the rubble and rescue them.
• 1:05:32
  And they shell them.
• 1:05:34
  That is what is terrifying.
• 1:05:36
  This was a targeted attack by the Ukrainian armed forces
• 1:05:39
  on a civilian object on a dormitory
• 1:05:42
  where students lived.
• 1:05:44
  It was carried out using drones.
• 1:05:46
  It took place in several waves.
• 1:05:49
  And the direct perpetrators, their operators,
• 1:05:52
  and their command knew perfectly well what the target was.
• 1:05:57
  Read for yourselves what occurred,
• 1:06:00
  what happened to the American pilot who dropped bombs
• 1:06:04
  on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
• 1:06:07
  He went mad.
• 1:06:08
  He could no longer perceive reality.
• 1:06:11
  Now, I don't know that story, truthfully.
• 1:06:13
  I don't know.
• 1:06:14
  I do not know what will happen to those
• 1:06:16
  who come to understand fully, in the end,
• 1:06:19
  that they shall destroy and ruin a building under which children,
• 1:06:23
  boys and girls, were dying in unbelievable torment.
• 1:06:28
  21 lives cut short at their very beginning.
• 1:06:31
  21 dreams never realized.
• 1:06:34
  No, they were not heroes.
• 1:06:38
  But they have been given a life in order
• 1:06:40
  to become what they dreamed of becoming.
• 1:06:43
  And they will no longer be able to do that.
• 1:06:47
  And there are the crippled destinies
• 1:06:50
  of those who survived.
• 1:06:52
  Yesterday, I spoke with Marina Kim,
• 1:06:54
  who is a state Duma deputy, a journalist,
• 1:06:58
  and a documentarian.
• 1:06:59
  She was there immediately in those days, the days after.
• 1:07:04
  She spoke with the family.
• 1:07:05
  She spoke with the young people who survived.
• 1:07:08
  I think she will make a film.
• 1:07:09
  A real big and honest film.
• 1:07:13
  Talk to her.
• 1:07:14
  Interview her.
• 1:07:15
  Her name is Marina Kim.
• 1:07:17
  She will tell you.
• 1:07:18
  I'm going to try to find her, in fact.
• 1:07:20
  She will tell you.
• 1:07:21
  I do not know where she gets the strength.
• 1:07:24
  She is a mother and a woman.
• 1:07:26
  I do not know where she finds the strength
• 1:07:28
  to live through this grief again and again.
• 1:07:31
  But this grief broke not only into the families
• 1:07:35
  of those who lost children themselves.
• 1:07:38
  It entered dozens of families
• 1:07:40
  in the Lugansk People's Republic and our country
• 1:07:43
  and around the world where normal people
• 1:07:45
  perceive the grief as their own
• 1:07:48
  and understand what happened.
• 1:07:50
  As Audrey Hepburn said,
• 1:07:52
  we must speak for those children
• 1:07:54
  who cannot do it themselves.
• 1:07:56
  I am moving into my red folder.
• 1:07:59
  She had a red folder on the desk
• 1:08:00
  while she was talking about it.
• 1:08:02
  And she said, I'm going to show you photographs
• 1:08:04
  and tell you about these children.
• 1:08:07
  I think their parents will not be able
• 1:08:09
  to do this for many years.
• 1:08:11
  It is impossible, but we must do it.
• 1:08:16
  I will show you the photographs
• 1:08:17
  and then you will also see them on the screen.
• 1:08:21
  And then she named all of the people.
• 1:08:24
  She went through it.
• 1:08:25
  And she was crying when she did it.
• 1:08:28
  And she went through and she talked about it.
• 1:08:30
  And she said at the end,
• 1:08:32
  let's see if I can get to that part.
• 1:08:34
  And she talked about, you know,
• 1:08:36
  the differences between what matters here.
• 1:08:40
  And, you know, not as lengthy as what she did,
• 1:08:46
  but I think it's, you know, they have real names,
• 1:08:50
  real, the faces, the pictures, the parents,
• 1:08:53
  you know, everything, where they were born, you know.
• 1:08:56
  They have Yelena Martymyanova, 19 years old,
• 1:09:00
  student, second year preschool education,
• 1:09:03
  the best of the best.
• 1:09:05
  A bright person, positive, supportive,
• 1:09:09
  you know, and talked about her.
• 1:09:11
  Taisiya Gerasimenko, 18 years old,
• 1:09:14
  first year student, studying records management,
• 1:09:17
  loved to dance, was active and always had initiative,
• 1:09:22
  you know, stuff like that.
• 1:09:25
  Alina Chikrigina, 19 years old.
• 1:09:28
  Anna Pogrebnichenko, 19 years old,
• 1:09:34
  a second year preschool education student.
• 1:09:37
  You know, Maxim Bugakov, a 20 year old young man,
• 1:09:41
  third year programming student,
• 1:09:43
  very optimistic, positive, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:09:45
  I don't mean to say blah, blah, blah, that's not right.
• 1:09:47
  But she gave, and the reason I'm telling you this
• 1:09:50
  is because, well, I'll share that with you at the end.
• 1:09:54
  Artyom Kovtun, 20 years old,
• 1:09:56
  third year programming student,
• 1:09:57
  very responsible, exemplary, respected, hardworking.
• 1:10:01
  A girl named Sofia Fan,
• 1:10:03
  a second year preschool education student.
• 1:10:05
  Daria Serdyuk, 19 years old,
• 1:10:08
  student at Starobelsk who dreamed of becoming an educator.
• 1:10:11
  Activist in the movement of the first
• 1:10:13
  and participant in college press center,
• 1:10:16
  was mischievous, kind, strong, brave.
• 1:10:20
  Tatiana Berezhnaya, 19 years old,
• 1:10:22
  second year preschool education student.
• 1:10:24
  Aleksandra Protasova, 18 years old.
• 1:10:27
  Aleksandra Postavets, 21 years old,
• 1:10:31
  a student specializing in record management
• 1:10:33
  and archival work, was very patient, purposeful.
• 1:10:36
  Aleksandra Budkova, 19 years old.
• 1:10:39
  Oksana Tereshchenko, 22 years old.
• 1:10:41
  Veronika Doshchenko, 19 years old,
• 1:10:44
  student at Starobelsk who wanted to be a teacher.
• 1:10:46
  Volleyball was a major part of her life
• 1:10:49
  and she achieved recognition and prizes for that.
• 1:10:53
  Yana Prudnikova, 19 years old.
• 1:10:56
  Anastasia Vasilenka, 18.
• 1:11:00
  Victoria Zaratuchenka, 18 years old,
• 1:11:02
  student at Starobelsk College
• 1:11:04
  who wanted to warm kindergarten children.
• 1:11:07
  With her own love, she considered preschool education
• 1:11:10
  her path in life.
• 1:11:11
  Activist in the movement of the first as well.
• 1:11:13
  And she, a participant in Lastochka, volunteer detachment.
• 1:11:18
  She was one of the professionals.
• 1:11:19
  Alisa Bryukovetskaya, 19 years old,
• 1:11:23
  first year student who dreamed of becoming a primary teacher.
• 1:11:28
  Irina Zhivatikova, second year student,
• 1:11:30
  dreamed of becoming a teacher.
• 1:11:32
  Serious about studies,
• 1:11:33
  interested in professional knowledge.
• 1:11:35
  Anastasia Kovalenko, 19 years old.
• 1:11:39
  That's the list.
• 1:11:41
  Second year student, dreamed of becoming a teacher.
• 1:11:44
  All of these kids were talking about, you know,
• 1:11:47
  their lives and going forward and what they were gonna do.
• 1:11:52
  And, you know, all of them were gonna, you know,
• 1:11:54
  give to younger generations.
• 1:11:56
  This is a pedagogicheska, a pedagogue university
• 1:12:01
  for teachers, instructors.
• 1:12:03
  This is what they're planning to go through.
• 1:12:06
  And their schooling system is different over there.
• 1:12:09
  So you have your basic school.
• 1:12:10
  It doesn't go like ours does to age 18.
• 1:12:13
  It goes to, you know, depends on which path you're taking.
• 1:12:16
  They choose their paths in life
• 1:12:18
  quite a bit earlier than we do.
• 1:12:20
  And so they are actually in the part
• 1:12:23
  where they're being educated for their future stuff.
• 1:12:29
  And, you know, I apologize for having to rush
• 1:12:33
  through those names, but, you know, you're not gonna,
• 1:12:37
  the trouble is, is I did that,
• 1:12:41
  I added them here in this show on purpose.
• 1:12:48
  Because the argument is always,
• 1:12:51
  oh, geez, they're making it all up.
• 1:12:53
  And what Zakharova did, like a lawyer would, okay,
• 1:12:57
  she gutted the Butch documentary after this.
• 1:13:03
  So if you don't know what Butch is,
• 1:13:05
  you should go look it up, okay?
• 1:13:07
  Because they still are out there spouting this nonsense,
• 1:13:12
  this BS off.
• 1:13:14
  I reported it when it first occurred,
• 1:13:17
  or not when it first occurred.
• 1:13:19
  I reported it when, on an anniversary of it
• 1:13:22
  or something like that, because it happened
• 1:13:24
  in the first months of the conflict, okay?
• 1:13:31
  And BBC, CNN, everybody went nuts over this Butch event.
• 1:13:39
  And it's nothing but a lie.
• 1:13:44
  You can even see that it is, you can verify it.
• 1:13:48
  And I don't mean to laugh about it,
• 1:13:50
  but it's complete crap.
• 1:13:52
  And the entire world media jumped on board
• 1:13:56
  and spread this crap that Russia gunned civilians
• 1:14:00
  down in the street and left their bodies laying,
• 1:14:05
  and the Ukrainians came in and collected them.
• 1:14:09
  Now, the Russians have video footage of them,
• 1:14:13
  this is during the, Russia retreated, okay?
• 1:14:16
  So Russia comes in, takes over a large portion of Ukraine.
• 1:14:21
  They were even into the Zaporizhia
• 1:14:24
  almost all the way through,
• 1:14:25
  and they were down below in the Odessa area.
• 1:14:29
  They were much further than they were.
• 1:14:32
  And after the successful talks in April, May of 2022
• 1:14:39
  in Istanbul, they withdrew,
• 1:14:45
  except from Donbass and the Donbass areas.
• 1:14:50
  And they backed off, they eased it.
• 1:14:54
  And immediately, because nobody wanted to end this war,
• 1:14:59
  you know, this is where Bojo, Boris Johnson,
• 1:15:04
  came in and told everybody that,
• 1:15:06
  oh, geez, you need to keep on fighting,
• 1:15:09
  we're with you, Ukraine.
• 1:15:10
  You know, as long as your people are dying,
• 1:15:11
  what do we care?
• 1:15:12
  According to Lindsey Graham, right?
• 1:15:15
  Your people are dying, that's great.
• 1:15:17
  You know, this is great for us.
• 1:15:18
  Let them kill off Russia.
• 1:15:20
  You know, we'll just keep supplying them,
• 1:15:22
  but it ain't our people dying, it's theirs, right?
• 1:15:24
  And zero respect for the lives of Ukrainians.
• 1:15:29
  And at all, you know, Zelensky too.
• 1:15:32
  And they came and they took dead bodies
• 1:15:35
  that had been dead for quite a few days
• 1:15:38
  and dragged them and placed them into places
• 1:15:41
  and then drove trucks in between them,
• 1:15:43
  you know, weaving through these bodies,
• 1:15:45
  nine, 10 bodies they just threw on the streets.
• 1:15:49
  And then took videos of it and go, look at these Russians.
• 1:15:52
  And the Russians have been demanding in the UN
• 1:15:54
  and everywhere else, every time somebody brings it up,
• 1:15:57
  specifically BBC, the UN and all that stuff,
• 1:16:01
  they've been demanding, if these are the people,
• 1:16:03
  show us where they're buried, tell us the names,
• 1:16:06
  give us the data that we've been asking for from day one,
• 1:16:10
  let us investigate, let's bring news people in,
• 1:16:14
  let's check it out, but let an independent body
• 1:16:18
  come and do it, they've provided nothing.
• 1:16:20
  You can go look today, go try to find the names
• 1:16:22
  of the people that died in Bucha, you can't find it.
• 1:16:26
  And so her lawyer take was this.
• 1:16:30
  She says that according to Ukraine's representative
• 1:16:33
  at the UN Security Council and the collective West,
• 1:16:38
  you should have heard the idiot from,
• 1:16:40
  I think she was from Denmark, I think.
• 1:16:45
  And oh my God, what a moron she was.
• 1:16:47
  She told Nobenzia, oh, they're not,
• 1:16:50
  we don't have any proof of that.
• 1:16:53
  When Nobenzia read it and Nobenzia about came unglued
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  in there, when this idiot, this moron,
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  even if you don't believe it, you can say something else.
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  You know what I mean?
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  And it's nonsense, but Zakharova said
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  that according to the Western representative
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  at the UN Security Council and Ukraine
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  and the collective Western minority,
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  these young people did not exist, were not students at all,
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  or were military personnel and command staff.
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  That's what they said.
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  They said, no, those are military personnel
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  and command staff.
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  Ukraine said it too.
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  Those aren't, you know, we blew up a barracks
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  full of people, right?
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  But none of the reports of that.
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  And she invited immediately and said, come,
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  come and send anybody you want to over here.
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  And that Rick Sanchez went, interviewed some of the people.
• 1:17:53
  Anyway, her argument is that Western officials
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  and media have repeated the Boucha narrative
• 1:17:58
  for four years, but she asked whether anyone
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  has ever publicly shown in the same way that she just did
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  the photographs, the date of birth, the full name,
• 1:18:09
  the address, the school, the workplace,
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  their family memories, and personal stories
• 1:18:15
  of those allegedly killed, you know, like she did.
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  She makes a, she says, and frankly, I'm on her side,
• 1:18:26
  I believe her absolutely.
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  Well, I don't believe her, I agree with her.
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  How do I wanna, I believe her on this,
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  and I'm on the point of view that this is,
• 1:18:37
  she said it this way, everything they've told you
• 1:18:40
  about Boucha is a lie from the first word to the last.
• 1:18:45
  And frankly, she has a very good point.
• 1:18:49
  And that is her position, and when Russia gives names,
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  pictures, identities, survivors, witnesses,
• 1:18:57
  location to inspect, invites everybody to come and see it,
• 1:19:01
  and UN officials still say they need additional verification
• 1:19:04
  and they're not gonna go, she says to them,
• 1:19:07
  exactly, she says, come, verify, come to our hospital,
• 1:19:11
  speak to the injured girl who was buried
• 1:19:13
  under reinforced concrete slabs and crawled out,
• 1:19:16
  wounded by shrapnel, speak to the,
• 1:19:18
  and I watched an interview of a couple of these girls.
• 1:19:22
  I watched one of the parents get interviewed
• 1:19:24
  while her son's laying, passed out on the bed
• 1:19:28
  in the hospital, and he's missing a leg.
• 1:19:32
  They had to cut his leg out to get him out
• 1:19:34
  from underneath the rubble, and he's missing a leg,
• 1:19:38
  and obviously, she was rather upset.
• 1:19:42
  And the kid was out.
• 1:19:45
  You know, he was probably induced coma of some sort.
• 1:19:52
  But when people say, oh, we need additional verification,
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  she's invited them.
• 1:19:57
  She invited CNN, she invited BBC.
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  She says, come verify, speak to the witness
• 1:20:03
  who heard the children moaning under the rubble, she says.
• 1:20:06
  And she gives, says the same officials
• 1:20:09
  didn't demand any verification before publicizing
• 1:20:13
  Bucha all over the planet into a global political symbol.
• 1:20:17
  They went there, repeated the claims,
• 1:20:20
  treated the narrative as established,
• 1:20:23
  never provided anything to Russia.
• 1:20:26
  They refused the request for names or verified lists.
• 1:20:29
  They haven't ever provided one.
• 1:20:31
  And she singled out the BBC journalists.
• 1:20:33
  She said the BBC journalists played an active role
• 1:20:37
  in fabricating Bucha.
• 1:20:39
  They refused to go to Starobelsk,
• 1:20:42
  and said Russia organized a trip
• 1:20:44
  for many foreign correspondents
• 1:20:46
  and took 51 journalists from 20 countries
• 1:20:50
  to go and see the aftermath and interview people
• 1:20:53
  and talk about what it is.
• 1:20:55
  And her closing line in this portion
• 1:20:57
  is that Starobelsk will not be swept under the rug.
• 1:21:01
  She said, we're not gonna allow you
• 1:21:02
  to sweep this under the rug,
• 1:21:04
  and that Russia will do everything possible
• 1:21:08
  to break what she calls
• 1:21:11
  the information blockade of dehumanization.
• 1:21:15
  Information blockade of dehumanization
• 1:21:19
  is what she's talking about.
• 1:21:22
  And, you know, the, I tell you what,
• 1:21:25
  it's, you know, and part of me feels like
• 1:21:30
  that story was a little bit rushed, you know.
• 1:21:33
  If, you know, those children,
• 1:21:38
  whether you believe it or not,
• 1:21:39
  kids that get blown up,
• 1:21:41
  the girls who got blown up in the school in Iran,
• 1:21:43
  and all, you know, all those things,
• 1:21:46
  we just sweep on the rug, under the rug,
• 1:21:48
  and we don't talk about it.
• 1:21:49
  These are people.
• 1:21:51
  And these are people with dreams and lives
• 1:21:53
  and livelihood and family and positive and negative,
• 1:21:58
  you know, and they have every right
• 1:22:04
  to have the basic human right to live as you see fit,
• 1:22:10
  to live as you choose to live.
• 1:22:13
  So the issue here isn't whether every Russian statement
• 1:22:16
  has to be automatically accepted.
• 1:22:19
  That's not what I'm trying to get you to believe.
• 1:22:21
  That would be foolish.
• 1:22:23
  The issue is whether Western audiences
• 1:22:25
  are even permitted to hear the Russian side of the story.
• 1:22:31
  You know, it's like what I say about grand juries.
• 1:22:34
  You only get one side of the story.
• 1:22:37
  What other result are you gonna come up with?
• 1:22:39
  Come on.
• 1:22:40
  If you can't get somebody to offer an indictment
• 1:22:43
  in a grand jury, what are you gonna get?
• 1:22:45
  Well, if you only see one side of the story,
• 1:22:48
  if the only victims you're allowed to mourn for
• 1:22:51
  are victims that are useful to Ukraine,
• 1:22:54
  then that's not journalism.
• 1:22:57
  That's like some kind of religious, you know,
• 1:23:01
  Israel's always right crap, and they're not.
• 1:23:04
  And if only children whose names matter
• 1:23:07
  are the children whose deaths can be used against Russia,
• 1:23:11
  then human rights is nothing but political branding.
• 1:23:16
  That's what it is.
• 1:23:19
  The dead in Starobelsk had names.
• 1:23:23
  Zakharova read them to us.
• 1:23:25
  She showed us their faces.
• 1:23:27
  She said their parents won't be able to talk about them
• 1:23:30
  for years, because the pain is too great.
• 1:23:34
  So she did it.
• 1:23:35
  And by the way, she was crying most of the time.
• 1:23:38
  Well, I don't mean to laugh about it.
• 1:23:40
  While she was reading it, she was crying while reading it.
• 1:23:43
  This is an emotional moment, right?
• 1:23:45
  And so she spoke for the parents.
• 1:23:47
  The question for us, though, is simple.
• 1:23:50
  Why do we have to hear those names from Moscow?
• 1:23:54
  Why didn't we hear them from the BBC?
• 1:23:57
  Why didn't we hear them from CNN?
• 1:23:59
  Why didn't we hear them
• 1:24:00
  from the same international institutions
• 1:24:02
  that claim to speak for children everywhere?
• 1:24:07
  Because Russians don't count because they're orcs.
• 1:24:11
  That's what you're led to understand.
• 1:24:13
  Russians are beautiful, wonderful people,
• 1:24:15
  just like Ukrainians.
• 1:24:17
  And war is bullshit, pardon my French,
• 1:24:20
  no matter how you slice it.
• 1:24:22
  And it needs to end.
• 1:24:25
  But targeting by one side, which is okay,
• 1:24:29
  it's okay to sweep this under the rug
• 1:24:31
  because Ukraine did it, and ignoring it,
• 1:24:33
  that's okay, would never be accepted if it was Russia.
• 1:24:37
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• 1:24:38
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