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Pinball Roundtable: Fallout, Stern Media Day & A New Pinball Awards Show? · The JBS Show with Jamie Burchell

0:01
SPEAKER_00: Welcome back, friends of the round table.
0:03
SPEAKER_00: As we turn on the horse loaning electricity.
0:12
SPEAKER_00: Joining them as always is the one empty minute to fall.
0:17
SPEAKER_00: And every tournament players bigger.
0:35
SPEAKER_05: This is 19 minutes late as the recording because my sound system got foo-barred.
0:42
SPEAKER_05: And I blame the live shows at Eureka Heights.
0:45
SPEAKER_05: My roadcatcher, we had to totally reset it.
0:48
SPEAKER_05: These boys were very patient with me.
0:50
SPEAKER_05: Thank you, Kale and Retro Ralph.
0:53
SPEAKER_04: I don't know how patient we were.
0:54
SPEAKER_04: We were having a great time, though.
0:56
SPEAKER_04: Kale and I were laughing our asses off.
0:58
SPEAKER_01: We were so angry you wouldn't record that.
1:00
SPEAKER_01: That was so good.
1:03
SPEAKER_04: I was getting so frustrated.
1:04
SPEAKER_04: Poor Harrison.
1:06
SPEAKER_04: Jamie was saying no one was calling him and phones were going off.
1:09
SPEAKER_04: It was he was it was it was so insanely crazy.
1:14
SPEAKER_04: There was a moment where I'm looking at Cale.
1:15
SPEAKER_04: I was like, I don't even know what to say right here because I don't even know how this is happening.
1:20
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:21
SPEAKER_05: I was it.
1:22
SPEAKER_05: It was good.
1:22
SPEAKER_05: It was really good.
1:23
SPEAKER_05: It started an hour ago.
1:25
SPEAKER_05: I was hanging this uh leather that not this background, and they kept falling and falling, and it was too long.
1:34
SPEAKER_05: And it's so I was like, all right, F the background, you look like a prisoner.
1:38
SPEAKER_05: Who cares?
1:38
SPEAKER_01: Yes, a hostage.
1:40
SPEAKER_01: Hostage.
1:41
SPEAKER_01: You look like a hostage.
1:42
SPEAKER_05: Uh Janine, send help.
1:44
SPEAKER_05: And uh then uh then I had audio issues.
1:47
SPEAKER_05: But you know what?
1:48
SPEAKER_05: We moved through it.
1:49
SPEAKER_05: Welcome to the round table.
1:51
SPEAKER_05: Thank you, boys, for suffering through that for me.
1:54
SPEAKER_05: I appreciate it.
1:56
SPEAKER_05: I'm so glad we didn't record that.
1:59
SPEAKER_05: Oh my god.
2:00
SPEAKER_05: Anyway, happy birthday to a bunch of people.
2:03
SPEAKER_05: September birthdays.
2:04
SPEAKER_05: Uh most importantly, Rachel Best just had her birthday the other day.
2:08
SPEAKER_05: Christopher Franci's birthday is today.
2:10
SPEAKER_05: John Spates' birthday is today, and I think Elizabeth uh Giesky's birthday was the other day as well.
2:16
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it was like a couple days ago or something.
2:18
SPEAKER_05: So there we go.
2:19
SPEAKER_05: September birthday.
2:20
SPEAKER_05: Uh happy birthday to all uh of those great people.
2:25
SPEAKER_05: All right, Ralph, Media Day, Fallout.
2:28
SPEAKER_05: You're the only one who got to play it.
2:29
SPEAKER_05: Let's run right in the Fallout.
2:31
SPEAKER_05: Let's talk it out.
2:33
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I mean, uh it was do you you want to talk about the game first or yeah, I want to talk about the game first.
2:41
SPEAKER_04: I mean the game is is really cool.
2:42
SPEAKER_04: I mean, I didn't get as much playtime on it as I would have wanted, but we'll get to that.
2:47
SPEAKER_04: If you're if you if you're a fan of Fallout, I don't know how you wouldn't dig this.
2:52
SPEAKER_04: Like there's so many cool things in here.
2:55
SPEAKER_04: Uh, you know, for instance, like the way they did the vault mech was really cool.
2:59
SPEAKER_04: I mean, it's a bash toy, you bash it, you spell vault, and then the vault opens, which was cool.
3:04
SPEAKER_04: Uh, I thought that was neat.
3:05
SPEAKER_04: Like, cause this this game is very mech heavy.
3:07
SPEAKER_04: Like, there's a lot of mechs in here.
3:09
SPEAKER_04: Um, and you know, it's because when Gomez came in and did the whole spiel, he was like, Look, we're kind of treating this as more like a studio game, so we're we're allowing for a more open budget.
3:20
SPEAKER_04: But it's funny because later on in the show, there's a qu there's a question in there or a topic in there about it.
3:27
SPEAKER_04: Almost didn't go that way.
3:29
SPEAKER_04: But Keith pulled Keith kinda pushed on a couple of those things to make sure that it really was treated like, hey, this is why I think the game wouldn't be complete if this isn't in it, so I want it in it, but we can talk about that after.
3:41
SPEAKER_04: But um, it shoots really good.
3:43
SPEAKER_04: I love the little like inverted flipper thing.
3:45
SPEAKER_04: I will say it's a little bit more stop and go than like a typical Lwin, though.
3:49
SPEAKER_04: Like there is it it and I don't want people to come away from that saying it doesn't flow, but it's there is stop and go moments more than than like a typical Lwin game, I think.
3:58
SPEAKER_04: But it's all like for theme integration stuff.
4:01
SPEAKER_04: The Pro, however, had less stop and go, I felt like.
4:05
SPEAKER_04: So if someone wants a little bit more of that like Lwin flow, I without having like the vault open and then wait and then having to wait to shoot it in it and the lower play field, it's all happening, all the actions on the the main play field, you know what I mean?
4:18
SPEAKER_04: So there's less stuff stopping it.
4:20
SPEAKER_04: So I I feel like you you could still have fun with it and enjoy the pro, especially if you like you know like faster gameplay.
4:27
SPEAKER_04: But I mean overall, I mean we're not gonna deep dive it, right?
4:30
SPEAKER_04: But I I feel like overall I really I really dig it.
4:33
SPEAKER_04: I thought it looked good, like it looked really great.
4:35
SPEAKER_04: All the artwork packages look good.
4:37
SPEAKER_04: Although there were people that didn't like certain packages, I thought they were all looked pretty good.
4:41
SPEAKER_04: Um, obviously the LE is like really cool.
4:44
SPEAKER_04: It's pretty cool, yeah.
4:45
SPEAKER_04: Because they made it look like Ball Tech, the company ate it.
4:49
SPEAKER_01: All right, so are you getting an LE?
4:51
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and it's only really because I tried an explanation for everything.
4:57
SPEAKER_04: Uh well, I got rid of Beetlejuice, and so I had a big credit for Betelgeuse.
5:02
SPEAKER_04: So I was so I wouldn't have splurged because I would not pay 14.
5:05
SPEAKER_04: In my mind, it's like fake money, even though it's not fake money, but because I got a little bit over what I paid for Beetlejuice, I didn't mind doing that.
5:12
SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
5:13
SPEAKER_04: Very nice.
5:14
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, because Beetlejuice was worth more than it than the MSRP price.
5:18
SPEAKER_04: Great investment.
5:19
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
5:20
SPEAKER_04: So so I yeah, I am getting the L E, but I don't know when it's coming, though.
5:24
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
5:25
SPEAKER_04: I'm confused as to like what their production schedule is gonna be on this game.
5:28
SPEAKER_04: I think they're still doing pros first, but like you guys don't have your pro yet, right?
5:32
SPEAKER_01: Or no, I think uh if you're seeing any on the streets, I I think they're from like maybe like show stuff or some places that are really close to Stern.
5:42
SPEAKER_01: Um I heard they were going to uh Zach was talking about on the uh his uh podcast that they're gonna run LEs first and kind of sprinkle some pros in there for locations.
5:55
SPEAKER_04: I hope they don't do that, but oh really yeah, because it seems like when they do that, the LEs have problems.
6:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so yes, sometimes that happens.
6:07
SPEAKER_01: And and you want the problems to happen on the pros so the uh you know operators can handle it.
6:12
SPEAKER_01: You guys can handle it.
6:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we can handle those things.
6:15
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, they got it.
6:16
SPEAKER_05: You know, I know Eureka's ships next week, so the following week they'll have the pro.
6:22
SPEAKER_01: Which which version?
6:23
SPEAKER_01: They got the pro, and then they're gonna um put it on.
6:26
SPEAKER_01: Doesn't the pro the pro looks amazing.
6:28
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's great.
6:29
SPEAKER_04: It's a great pro.
6:30
SPEAKER_04: I there are people that are the only thing I wish that Stern did I don't think Stern should have raised the price on the pro.
6:37
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
6:38
SPEAKER_04: I think that would have been, I mean, it's I know it's three hundred dollars, but it's still three hundred dollars.
6:41
SPEAKER_04: That's still a lot of money.
6:42
SPEAKER_04: I wish they would have just said, hey, let's let's like throw the operators a bone, and but they're not gonna do that, I guess.
6:50
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, no, I would like to.
6:52
SPEAKER_04: What did you just say?
6:53
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, no, we're not doing that.
6:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
6:56
SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, cool.
6:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, shut the laptop and go home.
7:00
SPEAKER_01: Um but when you when you look at this pro, like I I think I think people are like comparing this pro to this premium.
7:07
SPEAKER_01: Uh but you know, it seems like you compare this pro to you know some other pros.
7:13
SPEAKER_01: This this thing is looking really sweet.
7:15
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it looks cool.
7:16
SPEAKER_04: I can't believe one thing that I know it's like a stupid minor thing.
7:19
SPEAKER_04: I can't believe they powder coated wire forms for a for the pro.
7:23
SPEAKER_04: Because that's not something they ever really even do.
7:25
SPEAKER_01: It's still it's little things like that, right?
7:27
SPEAKER_04: And it but it looks really cool.
7:29
SPEAKER_04: So maybe maybe that was like Keith being like, dude, it looks cool.
7:32
SPEAKER_04: You gotta keep it.
7:33
SPEAKER_04: You know, I don't know.
7:35
SPEAKER_05: Um you got to play it a lot, I heard, right?
7:38
SPEAKER_05: You got put no games on it.
7:41
SPEAKER_04: No, not quite as much as I would have played.
7:44
SPEAKER_04: What I haven't heard anything.
7:45
SPEAKER_04: What happened, man?
7:46
SPEAKER_04: Um well wait, real quick, I just want to go back to the game for a minute.
7:50
SPEAKER_04: The one thing that is like the there's when you see it, you're gonna go, wow.
7:54
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
7:55
SPEAKER_04: Sometimes I don't think people react as much as maybe I just overreact, but like the Pip Boy thing is giant, man.
8:04
SPEAKER_04: It it's big and it's right in there, and it's got the screen.
8:07
SPEAKER_04: And I love that that thing can do a bunch of stuff, it can like divert the ball to different places.
8:11
SPEAKER_04: That thing's badass, and that's still in the pro.
8:14
SPEAKER_04: And then um the Vats targeting system is really cool when you when you use it because though that whole like shooting range area, you can hone in on one, and then it's a like a direct you know, accurate hit on that particular target, which I thought was really cool.
8:31
SPEAKER_04: Um the Deathclaw thing is cool because it's one of those like bash toys that can kind of uh it doesn't on the pro, but on the premium and limited, it has like a coil so it can kind of like fire back at you, which I thought which I thought is kind of neat.
8:44
SPEAKER_04: So there's a little bit of like you know reaction back from it.
8:47
SPEAKER_04: Um yeah, I'm excited to play it more though.
8:51
SPEAKER_04: Oh, by the way, like one of the things that wasn't blatantly obvious to me at first because it was just so chaotic because there was like a million people at Media Day.
9:00
SPEAKER_04: There's just these three little stand-ups.
9:02
SPEAKER_04: I'm sure Serge went over this, I didn't get a chance to watch that episode yet.
9:06
SPEAKER_04: But there's those three little bomb stand-ups on the on the right.
9:09
SPEAKER_04: You just shoot those and then then the cannon's enabled.
9:12
SPEAKER_04: So it's like pretty easy to like shoot that cannon.
9:15
SPEAKER_04: Because that canon's a cool mech that I think people are gonna want to play with, and it's easy to get to.
9:19
SPEAKER_04: So like that's easy.
9:20
SPEAKER_04: There's like a sync, an easy death claw multi-ball, you just kind of bash it.
9:24
SPEAKER_04: So there's there's some stuff to get you going if you don't know the rules yet, which I I like that.
9:30
SPEAKER_04: I feel like Keith does that, like he'll give you stuff that's accessible, but he's gonna give you a whole bunch of other stuff that you gotta learn to to do, right?
9:39
SPEAKER_04: So I I think that's cool.
9:40
SPEAKER_04: But yeah, no, overall, I I'm I'm digging it.
9:43
SPEAKER_04: And he's losing his mind.
9:45
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, Rudy's losing his ever loving mind because he's like a big fan of the Fallout video games.
9:50
SPEAKER_04: Like he's like, dude, does it come yet?
9:51
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, I don't none of them came yet.
9:53
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, you gotta relax.
9:55
SPEAKER_04: So yeah, no.
9:57
SPEAKER_04: So you wanted to talk about something else, Jamie?
9:59
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I was just curious, you know, how many games you got to play in it?
10:03
SPEAKER_05: You know, how is the line waiting?
10:06
SPEAKER_04: The line was very long.
10:07
SPEAKER_04: There was a lot of people's, you know, the weird thing is is you can bring up to three guests, a single person.
10:14
SPEAKER_04: Oh man, bring guests, which is cool and very generous of them, but the space in that room doesn't really allow for every person to bring three guests.
10:23
SPEAKER_04: I mean, it does, right, but it's gonna get crowded as hell in there.
10:27
SPEAKER_04: That room's not that big.
10:28
SPEAKER_04: All right, let's get to it.
10:29
SPEAKER_05: Here we go, ladies and gentlemen.
10:30
SPEAKER_05: Uh we're gonna get to this story.
10:33
SPEAKER_05: Kale is going to tell us what he thinks because he hasn't heard this yet.
10:38
SPEAKER_05: So we're gonna and and we're gonna use you as a barometer sensei, okay, to tell us, you know, who's crazy and who's not.
10:46
SPEAKER_05: How about that?
10:47
SPEAKER_05: Or we're both crazy, I don't know.
10:49
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
10:50
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
10:51
SPEAKER_01: All right, we need like the judge duty theme or something.
10:53
SPEAKER_01: I had Wapner.
10:55
SPEAKER_05: Well, I don't have him programmed in because we had to reset the the road.
10:58
SPEAKER_01: That'll get demon monetized.
11:01
SPEAKER_05: Take it away, Ralph.
11:03
SPEAKER_05: You're you're why do I have to explain it?
11:06
SPEAKER_01: Ralph, isn't it funny how like Jamie was about to explain it and then it's like it to me.
11:11
SPEAKER_04: I was like, okay, cool, he's gonna explain it.
11:13
SPEAKER_04: All right, I'll explain it.
11:14
SPEAKER_04: I feel like if I explain it, it's it's gonna be my version.
11:17
SPEAKER_05: I just you would be uh let me give the the 10,000 foot version and Kale could be our judge duty.
11:24
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
11:24
SPEAKER_04: All right.
11:24
SPEAKER_04: Now now now, Jamie, in this thing, you need to define what you think a media day is for, because that's important.
11:32
SPEAKER_05: Oh, you know, Kale's been to multiple media days.
11:34
SPEAKER_05: He understands as our judge, he is very familiar with you know what happens in media day.
11:40
SPEAKER_05: Should I go get like a jacket, like a blazer?
11:42
SPEAKER_05: You look great.
11:43
SPEAKER_05: You look great.
11:44
SPEAKER_05: So essentially, Steve Bowden, one of the best players in the world, okay, hell of a commentator.
11:51
SPEAKER_05: Friend of the pod.
11:52
SPEAKER_05: Friend of the pod.
11:53
SPEAKER_05: I've had him on.
11:55
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
11:56
SPEAKER_05: Steve Bowden did Steve Bowden things and he blew up Fallout.
12:02
SPEAKER_05: He just blew it up.
12:03
SPEAKER_05: I put up a couple bill.
12:05
SPEAKER_05: But Ralphie boy is waiting.
12:07
SPEAKER_04: Oh, just me waiting.
12:09
SPEAKER_04: Dude, you act like it was one game, it was like 50 people.
12:13
SPEAKER_05: All right, maybe there's like 40 people waiting.
12:15
SPEAKER_05: And there's only two games there.
12:17
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, because the other one's in the room.
12:19
SPEAKER_01: Damn.
12:20
SPEAKER_05: So there's only two games.
12:21
SPEAKER_05: And you know, normally when they have some games out in the lobby where Steve Bowen can go GC them, it wasn't there.
12:29
SPEAKER_05: It was with home edition Pokemon's.
12:31
SPEAKER_05: So that wasn't happening.
12:33
SPEAKER_05: They had two LEs and one in the uh room where 20 minutes.
12:38
SPEAKER_04: You're getting it wrong.
12:39
SPEAKER_04: There was one LE, and that LE was in the room that we went to for Kong, that little conference room.
12:44
SPEAKER_04: That was that was for only like your 20-minute sessions that are rolling, right?
12:48
SPEAKER_04: That's the old you can't go in.
12:49
SPEAKER_04: I mean, it's dedicated to that.
12:52
SPEAKER_04: And then the other room just had one premium and one pro.
12:54
SPEAKER_04: But the thing is, because this is like such a new hot game and they packed it with so much stuff, everyone was kind of gravitating toward the premium just because they wanted to like experience all the the mechs, you know what I mean?
13:07
SPEAKER_05: So long story short, he's on the premium, plays a one-player game.
13:14
SPEAKER_05: Am I correct?
13:14
SPEAKER_05: He didn't play four-player and turn around and say, Hey, who wants to play with me, did he?
13:19
SPEAKER_04: I think he did play some four-player games, but there was definitely some like one-player ones mixed in there where it was just him, yeah.
13:26
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
13:26
SPEAKER_05: And he blew it up.
13:28
SPEAKER_05: He spent uh over under 50 minutes, five zero minutes, on this game, and people are trying to play.
13:37
SPEAKER_01: You've got Mel, Ralph, Hunt, you know, there's 40 people waiting to play.
13:42
SPEAKER_04: So you have like regular pinball people, and then there's a well and keep in mind that that some people some people fly in and pay money to go there and spend money for on hotels.
13:58
SPEAKER_04: Some don't even like can only spend a couple hours there.
14:00
SPEAKER_04: So like they gotta go in and go out and get what they need.
14:04
SPEAKER_05: It's also on a Wednesday of a work day, and yeah, people have jobs.
14:08
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's an obvious problem.
14:10
SPEAKER_01: Um, the fun part is this has become more of a family reunion than a media day.
14:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
14:17
SPEAKER_01: Uh so yeah, it's kind of uh schizophrenic in that way.
14:23
SPEAKER_01: But uh, you know, and then the only way to fix, I mean, you don't want to like, oh, you you can't come anymore.
14:29
SPEAKER_01: You have to create like another day where it's more like media focused, or you know, another invite-only type thing.
14:36
SPEAKER_01: Um or you know, with no plus tap on the shoulder.
14:39
SPEAKER_05: Maybe you get a tap on the shoulder from the city.
14:41
SPEAKER_01: Right, because there is, and and I under you know, I've known Steve for years, and he is a he's a super kind, generous person, and he didn't mean uh by any means uh you know to cause any kind of disruption.
14:55
SPEAKER_01: But uh, you know, sometimes you just get carried away, but it you know, it makes you kind of think like how much is too much?
15:01
SPEAKER_01: Like if I brought Walt Wood as my plus one and just told him to go crazy, uh I mean We would never play.
15:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
15:09
SPEAKER_01: Like it and and there comes a point when you're that good at pinball, there comes a point where you go, okay, like I've seen I've seen a mode, I've seen a multi-ball, um, you know, let's move on and let other people play.
15:21
SPEAKER_01: You know, even like what when uh the first time Walt ever came to the arcade, he wouldn't play in our league night because he was self-aware and was like, uh, dude, it we'd be here.
15:32
SPEAKER_01: He's he said we'd be here all damn night.
15:35
SPEAKER_01: He's like, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna hang out and and play the games you guys aren't playing.
15:39
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, it just it takes when you're that good, it it just takes you you uh you know, you have to you kind of have to read the room and uh you know a little more than than the other players.
15:52
SPEAKER_05: Well, so Ralph did a podcast, and Ralph on his podcast said basically Well that's not really how it started, Jamie.
16:00
SPEAKER_04: Actually, I I did a like in my video that I did for that day, I kind of like made a joke about it.
16:08
SPEAKER_04: It was just a joke.
16:08
SPEAKER_04: It was just like, you know, I I'm like it's been half the day, and I really haven't had a lot of time on the game yet because and and like I was like Mason, zoom in on my face.
16:17
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, because some people are just on it for a little too long, and it was a joke, but I I figured I figured it would die at that joke, right?
16:25
SPEAKER_04: It's because I'm like, no one's gonna no one's gonna go, oh, that was me that he's talking about, because I could have been talking about anybody.
16:31
SPEAKER_04: So that was what I was like, okay, I'm just gonna have fun with it, and that was it.
16:34
SPEAKER_04: And I didn't think I'd hear anything else.
16:36
SPEAKER_04: And then Steve posts a Facebook post, like basically like, hey Ralph, like if you want to spend more time on it, then just play better.
16:44
SPEAKER_04: I have to hear if you want to see it.
16:46
SPEAKER_04: And then he gave like the rules, and so I don't know Steve personally.
16:50
SPEAKER_04: That might have been Steve just being funny, but when I saw it, I was like, Well, first of all, now you're admitting it was you, right?
16:57
SPEAKER_04: But it was just it was I took it a little bit like probably the wrong way.
17:01
SPEAKER_04: Like, I kind of it just and I had like two hours of sleep, dude, coming off this event.
17:04
SPEAKER_04: So then I start doing the one thing that you know we all say not to do.
17:08
SPEAKER_04: If you're upset, and like there's no point going back and forth on text threads and comments, like there's no you gotta you gotta just calm down.
17:16
SPEAKER_04: And I didn't, and then I started fighting with other people that were either agreeing or disagreeing.
17:22
SPEAKER_04: One guy said, I don't even know.
17:24
SPEAKER_04: Found your rich boy, uh rich rich boy.
17:26
SPEAKER_04: I have it right here.
17:27
SPEAKER_04: Do you want to say anything?
17:28
SPEAKER_04: He's crazy.
17:29
SPEAKER_01: People are getting nuts.
17:32
SPEAKER_01: Kale, pretty funny now, but and I didn't, I didn't I didn't see all I saw Steve's response, uh, but I didn't read the comments.
17:39
SPEAKER_04: Now my response, my response, uh Kale was fine, but then it was okay, and then at the end I did something not cool.
17:46
SPEAKER_04: Like that's actually what I think started it all.
17:48
SPEAKER_04: Okay, because I said he said play better, and that this is my fault.
17:52
SPEAKER_04: I'm owning this, I will fall on the sword.
17:54
SPEAKER_04: I said act better because I was irritated, and I know that was the I shouldn't have I would have been fine with my one thing, and then I threw that in there.
18:03
SPEAKER_04: And all I was asking, the only thing I wanted, and this is truly how I felt, and it did it came off totally wrong.
18:10
SPEAKER_04: I just wanted to, I my only thing I wanted to say is like, look, a lot of us you can you can call us pin fluencers or whatever lame name you want to come up with.
18:19
SPEAKER_04: We're there to do this, and some of us look at it as like maybe this is right, wrong, or indifferent.
18:24
SPEAKER_04: I view it as like, all right, I'm there to do a task.
18:26
SPEAKER_04: Like I have I'm gonna have fun and hang out, but that's after I'm done.
18:30
SPEAKER_04: So I focus on doing the filming because I know I'm gonna want to make a video on this.
18:35
SPEAKER_04: I was just like, my whole intent was just because you're so good, like Steve, you're you maybe you're on a I mean you you should know because you're on like the top of the ranks everywhere.
18:45
SPEAKER_04: Like you're so good that and most of us are okay to average.
18:51
SPEAKER_04: So if you're doing that, like we're not gonna be able to come and get like capture the game we we want that that we all flew in to do.
18:59
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
18:59
SPEAKER_04: So just like just like be a little bit more courteous to because I don't know, I no one really says, like, Zach doesn't in the email say, Oh, and the intent of media day is for media and podcasters to get it.
19:10
SPEAKER_04: Like, he doesn't to your point, it's become a little bit of an open house because they invite too many people.
19:16
SPEAKER_04: But I'm okay with it being that many people if they just say, Hey, look, it's kind of more of an open house, and you're not gonna really be able to film much outside of the 20-minute segments you get in the room.
19:25
SPEAKER_04: And dude, you know this, like, if you well, outside of Surge, I can't learn a game in 20 minutes.
19:31
SPEAKER_04: Like, I'm gonna not even learn it.
19:33
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna go in there, and that means I have to play it, learn it, and film it in 20 minutes.
19:38
SPEAKER_04: Like, that's almost impossible.
19:40
SPEAKER_04: So the whole day, the whole media day has become a little bit like convoluted and like too big.
19:48
SPEAKER_04: They need to either like maybe they limit, they could probably at least do this.
19:53
SPEAKER_04: Be like, look, you're you can't bring a guest, or you can only bring one.
19:57
SPEAKER_04: Because if you bring three, it's and everyone did that, it gets kind of freaking nuts in there.
20:01
SPEAKER_04: It gets nuts.
20:03
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
20:04
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
20:05
SPEAKER_01: You should sell your spots.
20:07
SPEAKER_05: It's it's just interesting how people got fired up at Ralph Kale.
20:12
SPEAKER_04: Oh, they were saying all sorts of crazy stuff.
20:14
SPEAKER_04: I'll have to go look at it.
20:15
SPEAKER_05: Should I look at it now or I have it here for you to see it?
20:18
SPEAKER_01: Well, we don't we don't need to get no bring.
20:22
SPEAKER_05: But uh no, I wasn't gonna bring it up.
20:24
SPEAKER_05: I re I'm not.
20:25
SPEAKER_05: I I just thought, you know, Rachel Risto and you would need to settle something there too, I think, a little bit.
20:34
SPEAKER_05: Because Rachel got fired up for no reason either.
20:37
SPEAKER_05: Rachel, I love you.
20:38
SPEAKER_04: I did something to upset her in the past.
20:41
SPEAKER_04: I kind of said, like, hey, I was just having fun with it, no big deal.
20:46
SPEAKER_04: And then I thought we were good, but then she never wrote back.
20:49
SPEAKER_04: But she got mad at something I posted that was like a funny short.
20:52
SPEAKER_04: She didn't find it, she didn't find what I said funny.
20:56
SPEAKER_04: Okay, but I I get that, but I don't I feel like she's kind of latched on, she kind of latched onto this as a reason to continue to be mad, and I didn't understand that because I was just like, look, look, I don't know.
21:07
SPEAKER_04: So she brought up the old thing that she was upset about before, which I I didn't apologize for it because I didn't do it.
21:13
SPEAKER_04: I did a video that was funny, but it was something that actually happened.
21:16
SPEAKER_04: So, like if I report on something that actually happened that someone did.
21:20
SPEAKER_01: You're just reporting, right?
21:21
SPEAKER_01: I'm just reporting news.
21:22
SPEAKER_04: I wasn't sure.
21:23
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like I don't know.
21:24
SPEAKER_04: That's maybe that's maybe that's fucked up.
21:26
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
21:26
SPEAKER_04: But anyway, so I I don't know.
21:28
SPEAKER_04: She has this thing about not liking me, and I think she just used this as an opportunity, but it's fine.
21:33
SPEAKER_04: Like, you know how many people don't like me?
21:34
SPEAKER_04: But I have a lot, I have more that do that don't.
21:36
SPEAKER_04: But I think we'll cure it.
21:38
SPEAKER_05: That's a good feeling.
21:39
SPEAKER_05: This is a good listen, Rachel.
21:41
SPEAKER_05: This guy's a saint.
21:42
SPEAKER_05: It's a good guy.
21:44
SPEAKER_05: Look at him.
21:45
SPEAKER_05: He's a nice person.
21:46
SPEAKER_05: He really am a very kind.
21:47
SPEAKER_05: He really is a very kind person.
21:50
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
21:51
SPEAKER_05: So for Cliff Albert and all these people that are calling you Rich Boy and mean stuff, it it hurts feelings.
21:56
SPEAKER_04: All right.
22:00
SPEAKER_04: You clearly I'm not gonna respond to that, but uh I'm like what I'm I don't know.
22:05
SPEAKER_04: I felt like do I need to defend that I worked worked my way up in the in a job and I did it all myself.
22:13
SPEAKER_04: Like my pa my I felt like going like my parents never paid for anything.
22:16
SPEAKER_04: I was like, I was like, what am I doing?
22:18
SPEAKER_04: I'm a I was like starting to write these big long things.
22:21
SPEAKER_04: I started with humble beginnings and the blah blah blah.
22:24
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, what the fuck am I doing?
22:27
SPEAKER_01: I started out as a poor white child.
22:29
SPEAKER_04: I mean, really, I was like, I wanted these sneakers, and my parents got me these knockoff ones.
22:34
SPEAKER_04: Like, I don't know.
22:35
SPEAKER_04: It's just it was getting weird in that chat, but yeah, it's not weird.
22:39
SPEAKER_05: But I'm glad it's behind us.
22:41
SPEAKER_05: I'm glad we talked about it.
22:42
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
22:42
SPEAKER_04: And but Steve, you're a great let me say Steve, you're a great player.
22:46
SPEAKER_04: I appreciate your talent.
22:47
SPEAKER_04: And it was pretty cool to be able to see you get to every mode and everything in the game.
22:52
SPEAKER_04: I just would say I I I guess I don't understand how you couldn't see it as just just like be more aware that there's a lot of people there that were trying to get the same experience you were, and that's it.
23:03
SPEAKER_04: But I don't have any ill will towards them.
23:05
SPEAKER_04: And I and tournament players, you have no problem with tournament players.
23:09
SPEAKER_05: You are a tournament player.
23:10
SPEAKER_04: I I play in tournaments.
23:11
SPEAKER_05: I'm not great, but I play in tournaments.
23:13
SPEAKER_05: Let's just make sure because they're the subcommunity of our community and they get fired up too.
23:18
SPEAKER_05: I love tournament players.
23:19
SPEAKER_04: I don't know why it turned into that.
23:21
SPEAKER_04: It was like a no, they came out of the woodwork.
23:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because there was even comments like, you hate tournament players, you're loser.
23:28
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, what?
23:28
SPEAKER_02: No, I don't.
23:29
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, I love it.
23:31
SPEAKER_04: Some of my like really good friends in pinball come to League Night all the time.
23:35
SPEAKER_05: So anyway.
23:36
SPEAKER_05: Anyway, this is let's move on.
23:38
SPEAKER_05: Steve, thank you so much for letting us talk this through with you, and uh, you're the best.
23:43
SPEAKER_05: Thank you so much.
23:44
SPEAKER_05: Good luck with that.
23:45
SPEAKER_05: Amen.
23:46
SPEAKER_05: All right, Kayle has an idea for an award show put up here right up the top.
23:51
SPEAKER_05: Are we just anywhere?
23:53
SPEAKER_01: I just put it, I was just adding stuff.
23:56
SPEAKER_05: Oh shit.
23:59
SPEAKER_01: But we can we can do anything.
24:01
SPEAKER_05: I don't have to edit.
24:02
SPEAKER_04: God damn it.
24:03
SPEAKER_04: What do you mean?
24:03
SPEAKER_04: They're showing up uh uh on my end.
24:05
SPEAKER_04: It's easy.
24:06
SPEAKER_04: The right order.
24:08
SPEAKER_04: You have your uh test just put little X's next to the ones we've talked about, Jamie.
24:11
SPEAKER_04: Easy peasy.
24:13
SPEAKER_01: You just have to have your notes open.
24:15
SPEAKER_05: I have my notes open.
24:16
SPEAKER_05: I'm flustered today, ladies and gentlemen.
24:18
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, this is flustered.
24:19
SPEAKER_05: You guys have no idea.
24:20
SPEAKER_01: Man, it was it was rough.
24:22
SPEAKER_01: That was roughly insane.
24:24
SPEAKER_01: I've never seen anything like it, man.
24:26
SPEAKER_01: I've been sick all week.
24:28
SPEAKER_04: Phones were ringing.
24:29
SPEAKER_04: It was like he was doing what are those one of those shows you used to be able to call into to like donate money to people?
24:34
SPEAKER_04: Like a what do they call it?
24:35
SPEAKER_04: Telethon.
24:36
SPEAKER_04: He was the it was like a telethon going on at the same time as he was pissed.
24:39
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, where are all these phones going on?
24:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was like like cable access hostage telethon.
24:45
SPEAKER_05: I lost my mind.
24:46
SPEAKER_05: I was so pissed off.
24:48
SPEAKER_05: And they weren't fucking helping at all, ladies and gentlemen.
24:50
SPEAKER_05: They don't know.
24:51
SPEAKER_04: It was too funny.
24:52
SPEAKER_04: I'm so sorry, Jamie, but it was it and Cale was making me laugh more when he would laugh about it.
24:57
SPEAKER_05: So it was I'm so he brought it up, so let's talk about the idea for the award show.
25:01
SPEAKER_05: Let's go.
25:03
SPEAKER_01: Oh, are we going with it?
25:04
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, let's go with it.
25:05
SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
25:06
SPEAKER_01: So um I remember how bad you wanted to buy the Twippies, and we talked you out of it.
25:13
SPEAKER_01: You did, and I I have to do that.
25:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
25:17
SPEAKER_01: So ever since then I've been thinking of something we could do.
25:21
SPEAKER_01: Something special.
25:22
SPEAKER_01: You you want you want to do something special to recognize the incredible talent in this industry, right?
25:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
25:31
SPEAKER_01: That that's all you want.
25:33
SPEAKER_01: And that's not a that's not a big ask.
25:35
SPEAKER_01: And I think we have the tools and the talent to pull it off just us, and we don't need a voting system.
25:45
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
25:45
SPEAKER_04: I'm with you.
25:47
SPEAKER_01: You feel you feel me?
25:48
SPEAKER_01: So we get uh like sometime uh later this year, like or or maybe it's I don't know, maybe it's like January, February.
25:54
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
25:54
SPEAKER_01: Because you want to know what's released, right?
25:56
SPEAKER_01: So you have to do it in January, February.
25:59
SPEAKER_01: I concur.
26:00
SPEAKER_01: All right, we we get together on here and we record this, like it it'll probably take under two hours.
26:07
SPEAKER_01: A uh we we workshop it, and we come up with with all of the the criteria and the uh and and the winners, right?
26:17
SPEAKER_01: But we we but we record the workshopping session.
26:22
SPEAKER_01: Then live we do the show.
26:26
SPEAKER_01: You do the whole show, you get a bunch of interaction people talking about their opinions on it.
26:31
SPEAKER_01: That's where the interaction comes in, not the voting, because really people just want to have a conversation about who they thought should win.
26:38
SPEAKER_01: Did what did we get right, what did we get wrong, and then we release the word shop shopping session, like a supercut of it, like how we got to uh our our decision.
26:48
SPEAKER_04: That's amazing I that's a really freaking good idea.
26:51
SPEAKER_01: Boom, go with it.
26:52
SPEAKER_04: Because I think we would have our conversations are probably funny as hell, like as we're even arguing points or something.
26:58
SPEAKER_04: I love it.
26:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we're like throwing shit at each other.
27:00
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you know, I love this idea.
27:02
SPEAKER_05: That's a fucking awesome idea.
27:04
SPEAKER_05: That's a really cool way to do that.
27:05
SPEAKER_05: And I think the pinball roundtable awards sounds perfect.
27:09
SPEAKER_01: All right, I fixed the problem.
27:10
SPEAKER_04: All right, so we just gotta pull that into sense of us.
27:14
SPEAKER_05: I know.
27:15
SPEAKER_04: Because we you and I would be like, oh, I don't know.
27:17
SPEAKER_04: Oh, there's people to react.
27:19
SPEAKER_05: We react to it.
27:20
SPEAKER_04: The voting system's complex.
27:22
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
27:23
SPEAKER_05: No voting, just us.
27:25
SPEAKER_05: I love that.
27:25
SPEAKER_05: That's it.
27:26
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
27:26
SPEAKER_01: We do this is what people like.
27:28
SPEAKER_01: And we do cool things and they can argue with it.
27:30
SPEAKER_01: And we do content creators.
27:33
SPEAKER_01: Right.
27:33
SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
27:34
SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
27:34
SPEAKER_04: And we'll make sure everyone is represented for different categories of content creators because not everyone does the same kind of content.
27:41
SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
27:41
SPEAKER_01: There's there's streaming, there's we'll do that right.
27:43
SPEAKER_01: There's yep, there's competitive streaming, there's um no question, we'll do that.
27:48
SPEAKER_04: All the good stuff.
27:49
SPEAKER_04: This is gonna be good.
27:50
SPEAKER_05: That's gonna be fantastic.
27:51
SPEAKER_05: Kale Hernandez.
27:52
SPEAKER_05: I like that, ladies and gentlemen.
27:54
SPEAKER_05: Another yeah, check that off.
27:55
SPEAKER_05: We did it.
27:56
SPEAKER_04: All right, check it off.
27:58
SPEAKER_04: Wait, are you do you wait, hold on a second, Jamie?
28:01
SPEAKER_04: Please tell me that you're not.
28:02
SPEAKER_04: Are you working off a printed copy?
28:05
SPEAKER_04: No, I don't mind.
28:06
SPEAKER_04: 80?
28:06
SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
28:07
SPEAKER_04: All right, I thought you were I thought you were taking like a pen and like no, I have my iPhone.
28:13
SPEAKER_01: What are you doing down there?
28:14
SPEAKER_04: Oh, my iPhone.
28:16
SPEAKER_01: I have ha have I told you this story about uh I worked at this company where the president of the company, I I worked in the graphics department.
28:24
SPEAKER_01: The president of the company brought me a printout from Carfax.
28:29
SPEAKER_01: He wanted me to scan it and email it to his buddy.
28:33
SPEAKER_02: Oh boy.
28:34
SPEAKER_02: Oh boy.
28:37
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
28:39
SPEAKER_02: I did it.
28:40
SPEAKER_02: I did it.
28:41
SPEAKER_01: No, I found I found well I found the URL and and emailed him that instead.
28:45
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, good move.
28:47
SPEAKER_05: Good move.
28:48
SPEAKER_05: I'm not technically deficient as well.
28:51
SPEAKER_05: No, I know I know, I know.
28:52
SPEAKER_05: We would you would do that.
28:53
SPEAKER_04: No, it looked like you were looking down.
28:55
SPEAKER_04: I didn't know what you were doing.
28:56
SPEAKER_05: So I was just sorry.
28:57
SPEAKER_05: What are you looking at?
28:58
SPEAKER_05: John Wick enters the vault.
29:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but what do you look where did you get that information from?
29:02
SPEAKER_05: My phone.
29:03
SPEAKER_05: Oh, okay.
29:04
SPEAKER_05: I have my notes on the phone.
29:05
SPEAKER_05: Are you okay?
29:06
SPEAKER_05: God's ball busting Jamie already.
29:09
SPEAKER_05: It's I I can feel it.
29:10
SPEAKER_05: It's coming.
29:12
SPEAKER_05: Uh people are gonna be texting me.
29:13
SPEAKER_05: Are you okay?
29:15
SPEAKER_05: They know I'm sensitive.
29:18
SPEAKER_05: All right, John Wick enters the vault.
29:21
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, did you guys see this?
29:22
SPEAKER_04: I actually didn't see this.
29:23
SPEAKER_04: I missed this.
29:24
SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, I guess it was like a couple of hours ago.
29:27
SPEAKER_01: I was looking on Instagram and there was a whole video.
29:30
SPEAKER_01: Get it now.
29:31
SPEAKER_01: You know, this is it.
29:34
SPEAKER_01: What a what a run, huh?
29:36
SPEAKER_01: We were there from the beginning.
29:37
SPEAKER_05: I know.
29:38
SPEAKER_04: You were there, both of you, huh?
29:39
SPEAKER_04: We were there from Yeah, we had to do we were part of the Apology Tour, the you know, the whole thing tour.
29:49
SPEAKER_02: The guns apology tour, you two.
29:51
SPEAKER_05: I wasn't cool enough yet.
29:53
SPEAKER_05: I I wasn't cool enough yet.
29:54
SPEAKER_05: I wasn't in the cool kids.
29:55
SPEAKER_04: You know what's unfortunate about this game though?
29:58
SPEAKER_04: I'm sure if Tim Sexton stayed, it it would have like had its direction and focus.
30:03
SPEAKER_04: But I think when he left, it just kind of left them well being like, what do we do with this?
30:09
SPEAKER_01: But we're remember, he got pulled off of that before to work on Star Wars.
30:14
SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
30:15
SPEAKER_04: I didn't know that.
30:16
SPEAKER_04: Okay, so he was pulled from it.
30:17
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, why would they do that though?
30:21
SPEAKER_05: I guess doing things.
30:24
SPEAKER_04: MXV though, like I didn't ask him that question.
30:27
SPEAKER_04: MX V did so many cool things.
30:28
SPEAKER_04: Like, I know this is so so minor.
30:30
SPEAKER_04: Like the code is awesome because he he took it and sort of said, All right, I gotta reboot this thing.
30:35
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and he did it awesome.
30:36
SPEAKER_04: There's this thing I love.
30:37
SPEAKER_04: It's so silly.
30:38
SPEAKER_04: It's really it so when you when you're in a mode and there's a lit shot and you hit it, there's like this badass guitar riff that goes off every time you hit the shot.
30:46
SPEAKER_04: It's just cool as shit.
30:48
SPEAKER_01: Like the whole the whole package is great.
30:50
SPEAKER_04: It is so good.
30:50
SPEAKER_01: I love that game.
30:51
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's cool.
30:52
SPEAKER_04: I don't know why Jamie's not on board with it, but he hates it.
30:55
SPEAKER_01: It's good, man.
30:56
SPEAKER_01: Just get to revisit it.
30:58
SPEAKER_01: Just get one.
31:00
SPEAKER_01: Going into the vault, dude.
31:01
SPEAKER_05: They're fun, man.
31:02
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I alright, John.
31:04
SPEAKER_05: Find a used one, dude.
31:05
SPEAKER_01: Cheap, man.
31:06
SPEAKER_04: It just made no money.
31:09
SPEAKER_04: What do you think they when they vault something early?
31:13
SPEAKER_04: Does that usually mean that sales weren't good of it if they vaulted early?
31:17
SPEAKER_04: Like, what are your guys' thoughts on what it means?
31:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, this sales they're not selling, so there's no reason to keep making them.
31:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
31:26
SPEAKER_01: Do you think it did okay?
31:27
SPEAKER_04: Like, you think it did okay?
31:29
SPEAKER_04: Or do you think it was like terri uh would they consider that game a failure, you think?
31:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
31:33
SPEAKER_04: Really?
31:34
SPEAKER_04: You think they'd actually think it's I would think so.
31:36
SPEAKER_04: You asking Chat GPT?
31:38
SPEAKER_04: No, I want to go on pin map pinball map and just see how many of them are in the United States.
31:43
unknown: Okay.
31:43
SPEAKER_04: I'm just curious.
31:44
SPEAKER_04: I just want to see because you're over under 500.
31:47
SPEAKER_04: What?
31:48
SPEAKER_04: Over under 500.
31:50
SPEAKER_04: Well, it's definitely gonna be under 500, I think.
31:52
SPEAKER_01: It I mean it's not like venom levels, I don't think.
31:59
SPEAKER_01: That that's probably worse.
32:01
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
32:06
SPEAKER_04: Wait, no, this can't be right.
32:08
SPEAKER_05: You don't think they're doing that Disney thing, Kale, where they would put it in the vault to get people excited?
32:14
SPEAKER_05: You know?
32:14
SPEAKER_01: No.
32:15
SPEAKER_01: No, because they would they would love to sell them.
32:18
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, true.
32:19
SPEAKER_01: If they keep running them, they you know, there's game-specific parts.
32:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, so do you think this is right?
32:29
SPEAKER_04: It says 454.
32:32
SPEAKER_04: That's kind of a lot.
32:34
SPEAKER_01: And that's pros and premiums, right?
32:37
SPEAKER_04: That's yeah, it had to be everything.
32:39
SPEAKER_01: I think that's right.
32:40
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you hear about these things being everywhere.
32:43
SPEAKER_01: I mean, four.
32:44
SPEAKER_01: You remember when people were like wanting those contracts?
32:47
SPEAKER_01: You know, everybody was posting, got my contracts.
32:50
SPEAKER_01: You went through the code.
32:51
SPEAKER_01: These things are in the wild.
32:53
SPEAKER_05: You you saw a definite resurgence.
32:55
SPEAKER_05: I remember in earlier electric backcasts, you were talking about those contracts being huge, right?
33:00
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
33:02
SPEAKER_04: What game would you guys also consider Stern would consider not a success, so I could put that in here in comparison?
33:08
SPEAKER_04: Venom.
33:09
SPEAKER_04: All right, let's see.
33:09
SPEAKER_04: Venom.
33:10
SPEAKER_04: He's totally right on Venom.
33:12
SPEAKER_04: Under 300.
33:14
SPEAKER_04: Dude.
33:16
SPEAKER_04: How many venoms do you think are out there?
33:18
SPEAKER_04: So we had 454 John Wicks.
33:19
SPEAKER_04: How many venoms?
33:20
SPEAKER_04: I mean, obviously, this is just locations that register with Pimbo.
33:23
SPEAKER_04: Right, right, right.
33:24
SPEAKER_04: 325.
33:26
SPEAKER_04: No.
33:27
SPEAKER_04: 280.
33:29
SPEAKER_04: 560.
33:30
SPEAKER_04: Ooh, that's close.
33:31
SPEAKER_04: It's 577.
33:33
SPEAKER_04: Wow.
33:33
SPEAKER_04: So Joe, so there's more venoms on site than there are now Wicks.
33:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
33:39
SPEAKER_04: Now you wanna wanna put in.
33:41
SPEAKER_04: Now I think we you should pick a banger, the one that you think is a total banger to see how Godzilla.
33:46
SPEAKER_04: Oh, well, that's gonna be crazy.
33:47
SPEAKER_04: Wow, yes for a banger.
33:49
SPEAKER_04: All right, let's go, Godzilla.
33:54
SPEAKER_04: Damn.
33:55
SPEAKER_04: How many Godzilla's?
33:56
SPEAKER_04: This is just locations in the US.
33:59
SPEAKER_04: 2000.
34:01
SPEAKER_04: What'd you say?
34:02
SPEAKER_05: I said 2,000, but 1500, 1200.
34:05
SPEAKER_04: No, it says it says 1300.
34:08
SPEAKER_04: But I think there's probably a lot more than freaking awesome.
34:10
SPEAKER_04: There's probably a lot more than that.
34:13
SPEAKER_04: Want to try.
34:13
SPEAKER_04: Do you think Pokemon could have could there be more Pokemons on locations than Godzillas?
34:18
SPEAKER_04: No.
34:18
SPEAKER_04: There's no way, right?
34:19
SPEAKER_04: No way.
34:20
SPEAKER_01: Not yet.
34:24
SPEAKER_01: There's no way, dude.
34:25
SPEAKER_04: This if this is right, holy shit.
34:27
SPEAKER_04: No.
34:28
SPEAKER_04: What does it say?
34:29
SPEAKER_04: Dude, it says there's 1055 Pokemons.
34:33
SPEAKER_04: That's awesome.
34:34
SPEAKER_05: Awesome.
34:37
SPEAKER_05: We're back.
34:38
SPEAKER_05: We are back, baby.
34:40
SPEAKER_05: We are back, baby.
34:41
SPEAKER_05: We did it.
34:43
SPEAKER_04: We did it.
34:43
SPEAKER_04: That's a lot to me in the U.S.
34:45
SPEAKER_04: I mean, actually, I did have included, but whatever.
34:49
SPEAKER_04: Um, I'm going to get something to drink.
34:52
unknown: Yeah.
34:52
SPEAKER_01: You guys just gonna keep going?
34:54
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we want to talk about Pokemon achievements next.
34:57
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
34:57
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, well, good.
34:58
SPEAKER_04: You're picking a topic I can't talk about because I haven't played it yet with the new code.
35:04
SPEAKER_05: I don't have it.
35:04
SPEAKER_04: I got rid of it.
35:05
SPEAKER_04: Oh.
35:06
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
35:07
SPEAKER_05: I was like, get out of here, Pokemon.
35:10
SPEAKER_05: No achievements.
35:11
SPEAKER_05: So don't you think we had something to do with getting those achievements?
35:15
SPEAKER_05: Huh?
35:16
SPEAKER_04: Well, I mean I mean George Gomez did uh let me see if I can find it.
35:23
SPEAKER_05: I'm sorry.
35:24
SPEAKER_04: Hold on, let me see if I can um let me see if I can find the exact comment.
35:31
SPEAKER_05: No, you have it in here.
35:33
SPEAKER_05: Direct quote.
35:34
SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
35:34
SPEAKER_05: Love the fact that you know people were people in the know, supposedly, and he laughed, said it was never gonna happen.
35:43
SPEAKER_05: It's awesome to prove them wrong.
35:45
SPEAKER_05: You think he was talking about us?
35:48
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
35:49
SPEAKER_04: I mean, it would be a little bit what it would be a little like I he could have been talking.
35:55
SPEAKER_04: I think well we were we went in pretty hard on that episode.
35:58
SPEAKER_04: We but I feel like we were joking, like it was fun to joke with it.
36:01
SPEAKER_04: I I actually thought they would come out with achievements.
36:04
SPEAKER_04: The one thing I didn't think they'd come out with was the Pokedex, but I guess in theory, it's not it's not called the Pokedex in the app, right?
36:11
SPEAKER_04: Like they're not allowed to call it that.
36:13
SPEAKER_04: I don't think so.
36:14
SPEAKER_04: But it shows all your Pokemon.
36:15
SPEAKER_04: But um it shows them.
36:17
SPEAKER_04: Do I think he was talking about us?
36:21
SPEAKER_04: We're talking about George Gomez.
36:23
SPEAKER_04: So do you know what he said?
36:24
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I didn't hear about it.
36:25
SPEAKER_04: No, I didn't know so.
36:27
SPEAKER_04: Joel Joel uh from Flippin' Out did a really good interview with Gomez.
36:31
SPEAKER_04: Oh, cool.
36:31
SPEAKER_04: And yeah, it's really good.
36:32
SPEAKER_04: I have a couple other things that happened during that that we'll share.
36:35
SPEAKER_04: But all right, so Gomez says he says, I love the fact that you know these supposed people in the know, and then he laughs, said it was never gonna happen.
36:46
SPEAKER_04: It's awesome to prove them wrong.
36:48
SPEAKER_01: He he knows about the midnight plunger.
36:53
SPEAKER_01: Oh he's hunting for them.
37:01
SPEAKER_04: Oh, sorry.
37:02
SPEAKER_04: Jamie and I don't even know who the Midnight Plunger is.
37:04
SPEAKER_05: I don't know who the Midnight Plunger is.
37:06
SPEAKER_04: I have no idea.
37:07
SPEAKER_04: One of what's funny is I was we went to go see the Transformers movie last night in the theater, the 40th anniversary.
37:12
SPEAKER_04: The root they they put it out in 4K and uh in 4K, and um in 4K.
37:18
SPEAKER_04: But uh Cole from from Castles and Coasters, he goes, Hey dude, so who's the Midnight Plunger?
37:25
SPEAKER_04: I was like, dude, I don't know.
37:26
SPEAKER_04: He's like, shut up, you know.
37:27
SPEAKER_04: I was like, I don't know how to do it.
37:31
SPEAKER_05: Two people came up to me on league on the on Wednesday and asked me who the Midnight Plunger was, and they gave me their picks for who the Midnight Plunger was, and I said, I don't know.
37:41
SPEAKER_05: And you know what's sad?
37:42
SPEAKER_05: Because we just rebooted this.
37:44
SPEAKER_05: I had Midnight Plunger music.
37:45
SPEAKER_05: If we were gonna hear anything from him today, and I don't have it anymore because I had to reset the board.
37:52
SPEAKER_04: So you guys talk about the Pokemon achievements and enlighten me.
37:55
SPEAKER_04: I don't know what's going on.
37:56
SPEAKER_04: Is it or in the new code?
37:57
SPEAKER_04: Like, is it good?
37:58
SPEAKER_04: Is it fun?
37:58
SPEAKER_04: Did it change a lot?
38:00
SPEAKER_04: It's fun.
38:00
SPEAKER_04: Well, what does it do?
38:01
SPEAKER_04: You guys tell me.
38:02
SPEAKER_05: I mean I only put like six games on it, but I got achievements galore.
38:06
SPEAKER_05: Uh you can change your battle area, uh-huh.
38:10
SPEAKER_05: Right?
38:11
SPEAKER_05: Right.
38:11
SPEAKER_05: That was kind of cool.
38:13
SPEAKER_01: From does it stop the ball and then you can do that, or is it I think you don't you do it from the beginning?
38:18
SPEAKER_01: I'll I only played it one time um during a tournament.
38:23
SPEAKER_01: So I have no idea.
38:25
SPEAKER_01: All I know is I got a ton of achievements in that one ball.
38:29
SPEAKER_05: I get a ton too.
38:30
SPEAKER_01: Uh but since I was in a tournament, I wasn't like trying to capture a Pokemon, yeah.
38:35
SPEAKER_01: Which which may be more lucrative now, I don't know.
38:38
SPEAKER_01: So I I didn't have any time to pay attention to the code.
38:41
SPEAKER_05: In a tournament, you should totally try to capture a Pokemon and then go into a battle, and that's where the points are.
38:46
SPEAKER_05: There's a shit ton of points in those battles.
38:48
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
38:49
SPEAKER_05: Next time.
38:50
SPEAKER_04: Um Gomez did also talk, he was talking it up like, oh, we've got with that Joel interview, he's like, We've got even more.
38:57
SPEAKER_04: Like he he actually said they held stuff back because they they have like more ideas.
39:02
SPEAKER_04: So they they did this big chunk, and then they're gonna do another chunk of updates that's gonna have a whole bunch of other stuff.
39:07
SPEAKER_04: So he he said, We got a lot more planned, and so hey, you know what?
39:12
SPEAKER_04: There's a lot of them out there clearly on location, and a lot of people bought it.
39:16
SPEAKER_01: So and they wanted to sell it more, yeah.
39:19
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and he did he did his very clear like this is a game that is uh an evergreen game, and we plan on selling this for a really long time and continue to you know have it in production.
39:30
SPEAKER_04: So and I I I do think if someone's new coming into the hobby, that would probably be one of the titles that wait they'd eat at least be inter be interested in, you know.
39:39
SPEAKER_04: So for sure.
39:40
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
39:41
SPEAKER_04: And it's friendly too.
39:42
SPEAKER_04: New players.
39:43
SPEAKER_01: There's even a home model.
39:45
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
39:45
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
39:46
SPEAKER_04: Ralph walked through 'em.
39:49
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I didn't get that though.
39:50
SPEAKER_04: You guys played it at Costco.
39:52
SPEAKER_04: I haven't played it yet.
39:53
SPEAKER_01: I'm guessing that software update is on the home model also, right?
39:59
SPEAKER_04: I think I think he said um I would imagine it would be.
40:04
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I think he said this is the first time that they've like been at parity with you know, like the main models.
40:11
SPEAKER_04: But you know, obviously there's there's some things that aren't there mechanically, but the software I think does work the same.
40:18
SPEAKER_04: It's just it it's changed in maybe like how that mechanic works, but it's all there.
40:22
SPEAKER_04: I I believe he said that.
40:23
SPEAKER_05: I hope I'm not misquoting him, but but this was on the flippin' out uh YouTube channel.
40:30
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and it was Joel that he must have like cruised up to Stern to talk about Fallout.
40:34
SPEAKER_04: And Gomez was it was a it was filled with with awesome information.
40:38
SPEAKER_04: There was so much in there.
40:39
SPEAKER_04: So I have like one or two that I put on here that we might that I want to bring up with you guys and see what you think.
40:45
SPEAKER_04: But cool, yeah.
40:48
SPEAKER_05: Alright, next topic.
40:50
SPEAKER_01: Hey, good times, man.
40:52
SPEAKER_05: Yukon Yeti is now at the bat, and ladies and gentlemen, Ralph's garage.
40:59
SPEAKER_05: So let's talk about Yukon Yeti.
41:01
SPEAKER_05: The boys both uh have it.
41:03
SPEAKER_05: And yeah, what do you think?
41:06
SPEAKER_05: Turner pinballs Yukon Yeti.
41:08
SPEAKER_01: Well, first of all, I am absolutely blown away at uh the build, the build quality, the software.
41:19
SPEAKER_01: We we haven't had to mess with it.
41:22
SPEAKER_05: Is that a glowing endorsement or what?
41:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's been it's been on 20 hours a day.
41:27
SPEAKER_01: People banging on it.
41:28
SPEAKER_01: People love this thing.
41:30
SPEAKER_01: Uh has about a thousand plays on it.
41:33
SPEAKER_01: Um I am blown away with its performance, and it's also a fun game that people love playing.
41:41
SPEAKER_01: That lock mechanism is like one of the coolest things I've seen in pinball.
41:44
SPEAKER_04: It's really cool.
41:46
SPEAKER_04: Can I just share the video real quick?
41:48
SPEAKER_04: You guys want to see it?
41:49
SPEAKER_04: Jamie, you've seen it working, right?
41:51
SPEAKER_04: Or no?
41:52
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, well, we we got to play it at TPF.
41:54
SPEAKER_04: Oh, that's right.
41:54
SPEAKER_04: Here, well, I know I sucked at it at TPF, though.
41:57
SPEAKER_04: Here I did not.
41:58
SPEAKER_04: Here, check this out.
41:59
SPEAKER_04: I just filmed this like literally an hour before we got on the thing.
42:04
SPEAKER_01: The mountain's looking a bit unstable.
42:06
SPEAKER_02: It's kind of like multiple.
42:12
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, look at this.
42:14
SPEAKER_04: It's so cool, man.
42:16
SPEAKER_04: Sorry about the volume.
42:18
SPEAKER_04: That's okay.
42:20
SPEAKER_04: It's pretty cool.
42:21
SPEAKER_04: I think they they did, they definitely did a cool job.
42:24
SPEAKER_04: I my only thing that I'm you know, I talked to Chris a little bit today.
42:30
SPEAKER_04: Uh and I was I was I was like, I was because you wanted to know, like, hey, what how was the unboxing experience versus some of the other pinball machines you've unboxed?
42:37
SPEAKER_04: He really wanted to know what I thought about the the hinge system on the which I really like.
42:42
SPEAKER_04: Um you know, it's you can take Jamie.
42:44
SPEAKER_04: Do you know this?
42:45
SPEAKER_04: You can take the whole yeah, so the glass and the frame just come off as one piece and then all the lighting is integrated into it.
42:50
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, really easy and quick to do.
42:52
SPEAKER_04: It's got this cool little like lat latch mechanism.
42:55
SPEAKER_04: He just was more curious, like, hey, did it did you feel like you've you've you know you unbox games all the time.
43:00
SPEAKER_04: Does did this did it was it easy to do?
43:04
SPEAKER_04: Um yeah, and I didn't have any problems.
43:05
SPEAKER_04: It was it's been it's been solid.
43:08
SPEAKER_04: And the the crazy thing is, is the there's no when you when you lift up the play field, there's no wires, it's so weird.
43:13
SPEAKER_04: Like there's no wire harnesses.
43:15
SPEAKER_04: It's kind of crazy.
43:16
SPEAKER_04: Like the PCB is the wire harness.
43:19
SPEAKER_04: So pretty cool stuff.
43:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's like ribbon cables connecting PCBs, but it's like super clean.
43:25
SPEAKER_01: Really clean.
43:27
SPEAKER_05: And I don't love that for him.
43:28
SPEAKER_05: I love that for him.
43:30
SPEAKER_04: Did you did you guys get a chance to look at the did you and Rachel see how um on the board it's these little squares are the are the LED lights, and you just you can just squeeze the module and pull it out.
43:41
SPEAKER_04: And so if an LED dies, you just it's just this little snap in thing.
43:44
SPEAKER_04: I thought that was pretty cool.
43:46
SPEAKER_01: Fascinating.
43:46
SPEAKER_01: I didn't see it.
43:47
SPEAKER_01: Rachel saw it and took photos of it.
43:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she was impressed.
43:50
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I fig I figured Rachel would really appreciate the I mean it's too I think it's gonna end up being real stable there, but what I'm I'm so curious about how it's gonna earn.
44:00
SPEAKER_04: Like I want to know where it's going to fall in the earnings report.
44:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it it's I can tell you it's earning very well.
44:05
SPEAKER_01: There was a point when I know you always hear this, we didn't expect it, but the the coins backed up so much you couldn't put any more coins in it.
44:14
SPEAKER_01: I really didn't expect it to get that much play.
44:17
SPEAKER_01: I love that story.
44:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
44:18
SPEAKER_01: And the the great thing, you know, you say about uh talking to Chris Turner, I mean, he really uh wants the input.
44:27
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he does.
44:27
SPEAKER_01: He he has always asked uh, you know, us as operators from the very beginning with um the what was the ninja lips.
44:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and so he genuinely wants that.
44:39
SPEAKER_01: Uh Lar our machine came from Larry at Starship Fantasy, and uh, you know, he's uh local distro there in Arizona.
44:47
SPEAKER_01: Um uh he Chris reached out to him and and so I I have Chris's number now.
44:53
SPEAKER_01: I haven't uh called him yet, but he wants me to call him to talk about our experience.
44:57
SPEAKER_01: So he's very genuine about that, and uh he's always wanting to learn how to make uh his business better.
45:03
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I mean he he he took the time to talk to me today.
45:06
SPEAKER_04: He's like, hey, I'm sorry.
45:08
SPEAKER_04: He's he's just so nice, right?
45:09
SPEAKER_04: He's like, hey, I'm sorry, I'm I I called you a little late.
45:12
SPEAKER_04: Uh we're at the new facility, and I was like digging trenches.
45:16
SPEAKER_04: I was like, what?
45:17
SPEAKER_04: He's like, yeah, I was digging trenches for um I can't remember what if it was for electrical or something, maybe it was like water.
45:23
SPEAKER_04: I can't remember.
45:23
SPEAKER_04: He was digging trenches or something.
45:24
SPEAKER_04: I was like, you were just digging holes?
45:26
SPEAKER_04: And he's like, Yeah, I was like, I was like, Well, you didn't know you could have called me tomorrow.
45:30
SPEAKER_04: Like, you know, he's all in, dude.
45:31
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but his chip's all in.
45:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
45:35
SPEAKER_05: So that's a it's a positive review from the round table here.
45:39
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I'm having fun playing it.
45:41
SPEAKER_04: I have one thing that I uh it's growing on me a little bit, but there's a couple of things about the music that I think and I know they redid the music, but there's a couple things about the music that could that could give it more emphasis.
45:54
SPEAKER_04: Like there's some things that happen that are really high energy, and I feel like the music in some modes doesn't match the energy of what's happening, you know.
46:02
SPEAKER_04: How many modes do you choose from?
46:04
SPEAKER_04: It's like 85.
46:05
SPEAKER_04: Quite a few because it's like a map.
46:07
SPEAKER_04: There's a ton of them.
46:08
SPEAKER_04: I I haven't searched more to deep dive.
46:11
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
46:11
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
46:12
SPEAKER_04: I'll have to watch the searching.
46:13
SPEAKER_04: I I didn't actually like I've only played it maybe here maybe 10 times, but I was kind of just trying to learn the shots.
46:20
SPEAKER_04: I wasn't really paying much attention yet on on except for like the avalanche thing.
46:24
SPEAKER_04: It's pretty easy.
46:25
SPEAKER_04: There's two stand-ups, you hit them, and then um then that drop target drops, and you can start loading balls into.
46:32
SPEAKER_04: I do like that you can defer the multi ball, so you can so you so you can load that that avalanche, right?
46:38
SPEAKER_04: You can load it up, and if you have three, you can choose like do I want to do the three, kind of like with in in uh venom when you can defer your multi ball or in aerosmith.
46:46
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, there's a bunch of games that do that, but I like that because it makes you want to work up to the six because the six is so cool, right?
46:53
SPEAKER_04: So I I keep going.
46:54
SPEAKER_04: I like pre press my luck.
46:55
SPEAKER_01: And the great thing is, but there's also strategy involved.
46:58
SPEAKER_01: If for some reason you want to get that many balls up to the upper play field, yeah, just play a three-ball multi ball.
47:05
SPEAKER_04: Oh, good point.
47:06
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
47:07
SPEAKER_04: I think the upper play field's really fun too.
47:09
SPEAKER_04: That thing's pretty cool.
47:10
SPEAKER_01: Right.
47:11
SPEAKER_01: So uh if if nobody's played it, uh you if you lock three balls into that mountain, they they will like stair step upward one at a time, the balls, and then uh eject on the upper play field where you can hit it with a flipper.
47:26
SPEAKER_01: And there there are two shots up there, I think.
47:30
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, there's the there's one to the left and then one to the right.
47:33
SPEAKER_04: If you hit the one to the right, it goes along the backboard and then it does that that sort of sloped which that is pretty cool when the ball goes.
47:41
SPEAKER_04: It seems like the ball should fire off that.
47:43
SPEAKER_04: Like that had to be hard to get right so that the ball wouldn't launch, you know.
47:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it looks very cool.
47:49
SPEAKER_01: Um and and so if you don't you can keep going, you can have a four-ball multi ball, and then on the avalanche multi ball, is that five or six?
47:58
SPEAKER_04: Six.
47:58
SPEAKER_04: Uh well, I think it's still called avalanche multi-ball.
48:01
SPEAKER_04: It's just you can go up to six and then it does a six.
48:04
SPEAKER_04: I think.
48:04
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
48:05
SPEAKER_04: Maybe I'm wrong on that.
48:06
SPEAKER_01: But so when you when you uh lock all the balls for avalanche multi-ball, the balls go in the other direction.
48:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they go down the play instead of up to the upper play field.
48:16
SPEAKER_01: So cool.
48:17
SPEAKER_01: The mechanics of this is just really cool.
48:19
SPEAKER_04: It is really cool.
48:20
SPEAKER_04: And the other shot that's kind of cool too, it reminds me of uh there's two shots that I it reminds me of.
48:26
SPEAKER_04: There's that right flipper.
48:28
SPEAKER_04: You can actually lock balls behind the right flipper.
48:32
SPEAKER_04: Yes, very cool, which is super cool.
48:34
SPEAKER_04: So it reminds me that that shot is very similar to like the timing of that shot is kind of similar to the concave, like in the concave, or it's like one of those uh John Borg sneak in shots under the flipper.
48:46
SPEAKER_04: Or or even um what Eric Minyar did in Harry Potter.
48:49
SPEAKER_04: There's an upper flipper when you get an extra ball, you have to like lift it up and shoot but shoot below it.
48:54
SPEAKER_04: So it kind of reminds in recent times, those are the games it reminds me of.
48:58
SPEAKER_04: But uh, it's pretty cool.
48:59
SPEAKER_04: My if my only complaint is some of the music, then I I think he's doing pretty good.
49:04
SPEAKER_04: But I think more people will play this and go, damn, and when you get flowing in it with it, it's really fun when you start getting like a good flow going.
49:11
SPEAKER_04: Did you get the topper?
49:13
SPEAKER_04: I did get the topper.
49:14
SPEAKER_01: It's animated, but yeah, it's an animated jetty with like with real hair.
49:19
SPEAKER_02: It's a little creepy, it's super creepy.
49:21
SPEAKER_04: But I didn't see the final, I haven't seen the final production one yet.
49:23
SPEAKER_04: I think the one you and I saw, Jamie, that one wasn't the finished one.
49:27
SPEAKER_04: Oh, it's not.
49:28
SPEAKER_01: So, Ralph, the the one we have is what is that?
49:32
SPEAKER_04: No, I think no, you have the finished one.
49:34
SPEAKER_04: I'm saying the one they brought to TPF, he was like, Oh, yeah, this isn't done yet.
49:37
SPEAKER_04: Oh, I don't I haven't seen the finished one yet.
49:40
SPEAKER_04: Um I haven't either.
49:42
SPEAKER_04: It's in the box.
49:42
SPEAKER_04: I just have a box.
49:44
SPEAKER_04: I think it's still weird, but I think it looks a little better than the one that we saw.
49:48
SPEAKER_01: Oh, and and the tap pass flippers, dude.
49:51
SPEAKER_05: I was just gonna ask you, how fun is it, dude?
49:54
SPEAKER_01: Dude, dude, I thought I thought I was gonna be like, oh, this is a gimmick and dumb.
49:57
SPEAKER_01: It's so much fun.
49:59
SPEAKER_04: When you start learning, it it like people want to say it's cheating.
50:02
SPEAKER_04: I view it as a different kind of play.
50:04
SPEAKER_04: Like you right, it takes skill to do it.
50:06
SPEAKER_04: Like, you can't if you tap up a high on the flipper, it you're gonna screw yourself, it's gonna like fly over.
50:11
SPEAKER_04: You gotta time it right.
50:13
SPEAKER_04: It's so cool for setting up shots.
50:15
SPEAKER_04: Like that thing, I thought it was gonna be gimmicky too.
50:17
SPEAKER_04: I told him on the phone, I was like, dude, this is freaking pretty fun.
50:21
SPEAKER_04: It's really fun.
50:23
SPEAKER_04: I'm into it.
50:23
SPEAKER_04: I'm into the tap pass thing, or what does he call it?
50:27
SPEAKER_04: Finesse flip.
50:28
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah, flipper finesse flip.
50:29
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, finesse flip.
50:30
SPEAKER_04: And the button is cool, he but he put like a different kind of micro switch on it.
50:34
SPEAKER_01: Well, what's so important is it is not shaped like the traditional uh flipper button or the cabinet button that that sticks out.
50:45
SPEAKER_01: So it kind of, you know, you don't get confused.
50:48
SPEAKER_01: What for one thing?
50:50
SPEAKER_01: There, you don't know how many times people tell us Munsters is broken because we have the premium and they have two flipper buttons on either side.
50:59
SPEAKER_01: So people are like playing with the wrong ones and they turn the game off going.
51:04
SPEAKER_01: So this gives you a representation of like, oh, this is a it's uh this button has a different function, and it's smaller, it's more inset, so it's gonna be not as powerful as the other one.
51:17
SPEAKER_01: You know, the the way he designed the whole thing was cool.
51:19
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he's they're he's doing cool stuff.
51:23
SPEAKER_04: So I'm excited to see what he's yeah, it's the finesse flippers.
51:27
SPEAKER_05: What do you think, Jamie?
51:28
SPEAKER_05: I think it's it's fun.
51:29
SPEAKER_05: I I I wish him nothing but the best of luck.
51:33
SPEAKER_05: I always said that, but I think it's it's a great machine.
51:37
SPEAKER_05: I I enjoyed playing it big time.
51:39
SPEAKER_05: I I knew Ralph was excited to get it.
51:42
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but I didn't know that you were getting that.
51:45
SPEAKER_05: I you were just excited you were getting something coming.
51:47
SPEAKER_04: It was kind of like a weird thing where I don't know, I got so curious.
51:51
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna do it.
51:53
SPEAKER_04: I want to get it, I want to experience this game at home.
51:55
SPEAKER_04: Okay, and I've never owned a Turner game, and it's just fun to play.
51:58
SPEAKER_04: So we'll see.
51:59
SPEAKER_04: I mean, I we'll see how long it stays in the garage because you know, stuff comes and goes, but we're having a blast.
52:05
SPEAKER_04: Like Rudy and I were I I only had an hour today, and I'm like, dude, come over.
52:08
SPEAKER_04: I only have an hour between calls, we'll just play real quick.
52:10
SPEAKER_04: And he's like, dude, do you have time for one more game?
52:12
SPEAKER_04: We were doing like the one more game thing.
52:14
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, dude, I really, really don't like the call starting in 60 seconds, like I gotta go.
52:18
SPEAKER_04: So we're having a blast with it, yeah.
52:20
SPEAKER_04: So what about Predator?
52:22
SPEAKER_04: When when is Predator leaving?
52:25
SPEAKER_04: Dude, I actually the thing I want to talk about is I feel like Pinball Brothers is officially dead.
52:32
SPEAKER_04: I don't have like proof of that, but everyone I talk to can't get anybody to respond from that company.
52:40
SPEAKER_04: And that makes me worried because I'm trying to sell a game that now people are you know saying, well, as a company's gone, if something breaks, where am I gonna get it?
52:48
SPEAKER_04: I mean, you can get like the obvious parts, right?
52:50
SPEAKER_04: There are parts in that game that are just like pinball parts, but there's also specific stuff to that game that if it broke, like the cannon thing or whatever, the Gatling gun.
52:59
SPEAKER_04: Like, I don't know where you'd you probably wouldn't be able to get it if they're out of business.
53:03
SPEAKER_04: So I don't know.
53:05
SPEAKER_04: Like, do you guys have you guys do you have any read on this?
53:07
SPEAKER_04: Is it are they actually officially dead or do we know?
53:11
SPEAKER_04: I've only heard what you've told me.
53:13
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
53:15
SPEAKER_04: I everyone I talk to seems to be on that on that page of we think they're doomed, which sucks.
53:22
SPEAKER_04: They're just they're just not responding, right?
53:24
SPEAKER_04: And it's been a long time.
53:27
SPEAKER_04: So I don't know.
53:28
SPEAKER_04: I did you have a ticket in there with them?
53:31
SPEAKER_04: No, no, it wasn't.
53:32
SPEAKER_04: I just I had like a little bit of a back and forth relationship with them, and so I was like, I literally said, No, I said in the email, hey guys, like there's people talking pretty big rumors about what's going on over there.
53:46
SPEAKER_04: Is any of this true?
53:47
SPEAKER_04: What is happening?
53:47
SPEAKER_04: Is there telling give me some give me whatever you'll be willing to tell me?
53:50
SPEAKER_04: And they just never wrote me back, and that's very not common.
53:53
SPEAKER_01: And they won't they right Ralph, that's the that's the worst response for that kind of email.
53:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like I think that's the answer by not responding.
54:04
SPEAKER_03: So it's not going well.
54:07
SPEAKER_04: So how's it going, guys?
54:09
SPEAKER_04: And that's unfortunate though.
54:11
SPEAKER_04: I know we're laughing, but that is unfortunate because I feel like they they just now moved over to Aaron's fast system, and I and I feel like they were having a lot of people complain about reliability, and Predator, at least at my house, has been pretty reliable.
54:27
SPEAKER_04: All the you know, the Aaron Fast stuff is really solid.
54:31
SPEAKER_04: So I that I kind of was like looking forward to seeing what they do next now that they kind of fix the hardware stuff, but I I don't know if we're gonna see that.
54:41
SPEAKER_05: So it was supposed to be fifth element, right?
54:43
SPEAKER_05: That was the rumor.
54:45
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I mean they I don't think they've updated their Facebook.
54:48
SPEAKER_04: I could be wrong on this.
54:49
SPEAKER_04: I think it's till May, since May.
54:54
SPEAKER_04: That's kind of like that's what does that mean?
54:56
SPEAKER_04: Like, hey, we're we like it doesn't say like gone fishing or anything.
55:04
SPEAKER_04: We're out for out for indefinitely.
55:08
SPEAKER_04: Um, yeah, their last post is from May 27th on their Facebook page, and then they have that weird AI play field thing they sent out, which I don't know what the hell that was.
55:18
SPEAKER_05: But all right, yeah, it's not looking good.
55:22
SPEAKER_05: Not looking well.
55:24
SPEAKER_05: If you're from Pinball Brothers and you want to respond that you're still around, hit us up at uh what email do we have?
55:30
SPEAKER_05: Do we have an email?
55:31
SPEAKER_05: Retrofitgmail.com.
55:33
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
55:34
SPEAKER_01: Come come tell us what's up.
55:35
SPEAKER_01: Also, what what what about even give them an email that works?
55:39
SPEAKER_01: Whose email?
55:40
SPEAKER_01: Give them yours.
55:41
SPEAKER_01: Virtual Mac.
55:42
SPEAKER_01: Facebook.
55:43
SPEAKER_01: Just reach out uh to Jamie on Facebook.
55:46
SPEAKER_01: What about that Resident Evil game?
55:48
SPEAKER_01: What happened?
55:49
SPEAKER_01: I haven't heard anything.
55:50
SPEAKER_04: I think that's done too.
55:53
SPEAKER_01: They were like, uh, just kidding.
55:55
SPEAKER_04: I I think I don't know.
55:56
SPEAKER_04: Like, I think it's I think it's dead.
55:59
SPEAKER_04: I haven't heard anything, and I don't think I think the website's still the website might still be up.
56:04
SPEAKER_04: 20,000, huh?
56:09
SPEAKER_04: I don't see the website anymore.
56:11
SPEAKER_04: They can't be gone, right?
56:14
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, they can be.
56:16
SPEAKER_05: They didn't sell any.
56:18
SPEAKER_04: Well, they didn't make them, right?
56:21
SPEAKER_04: I don't even think they ever made it.
56:24
SPEAKER_05: I don't know nothing about that.
56:26
SPEAKER_04: No, they they never made the actual game.
56:27
SPEAKER_04: It was just an announcement, right?
56:29
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it was an announcement that they were gonna make the game.
56:32
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, if you go to the website, it's the site can't be reached.
56:36
SPEAKER_04: That's what you get.
56:37
SPEAKER_04: So yeah, I'm I'm pretty sure that's done too.
56:39
SPEAKER_04: You think they'll back your deposit?
56:41
SPEAKER_04: You think you get your deposit back on that?
56:43
SPEAKER_04: I don't I don't think they ever were taking people's money.
56:44
SPEAKER_04: I'm pretty sure.
56:45
SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
56:45
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it never got that far.
56:46
SPEAKER_04: All right, well.
56:47
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the website's completely dead if you try to get to it.
56:50
SPEAKER_04: Just a site can't be reached.
56:51
SPEAKER_04: How's ramps doing?
56:52
SPEAKER_04: You want to hang in and check out ramps?
56:55
SPEAKER_05: Well, isn't ramps isn't ramps doing the Danzig game?
56:59
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, they are.
57:00
SPEAKER_05: They are.
57:00
SPEAKER_05: I'm just having a go.
57:02
SPEAKER_04: Why are you picking on ramps?
57:03
SPEAKER_04: What'd they do to you?
57:04
SPEAKER_04: Just fooling around.
57:05
SPEAKER_04: Just fooling around.
57:06
SPEAKER_04: Just fooling around.
57:08
SPEAKER_04: I mean, ramps needs to figure out their website, though.
57:11
SPEAKER_04: Their reps website's pretty rough.
57:13
SPEAKER_04: If you go to the ramps website, it says road trip expected late 2026.
57:17
SPEAKER_04: So they're still saying that game's coming out, but it I kind of think it is getting late 2026.
57:22
SPEAKER_05: So I don't know.
57:25
SPEAKER_04: Who is Ramps?
57:26
SPEAKER_04: Like Yeah, what do they do?
57:29
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
57:30
SPEAKER_04: They're making road trip.
57:31
SPEAKER_04: I know, but well no, they're I don't know.
57:34
SPEAKER_04: It says I have no idea what they do.
57:37
SPEAKER_04: It says custom pinball manufacturing accessories for builders, designers built by hand in the US.
57:42
SPEAKER_04: So they're builders.
57:43
SPEAKER_04: It says they do wood play fields, cabinet builds.
57:48
SPEAKER_05: So it looks like anyone this is a public service announcement.
57:52
SPEAKER_05: Don't make pinball machines.
57:54
SPEAKER_02: What?
57:55
SPEAKER_02: What do you mean?
57:56
SPEAKER_05: I mean just unless you have money you want to just see up in flames.
58:01
SPEAKER_05: Starting a pinball manufacturer is not a good business.
58:04
SPEAKER_05: I don't think you can get a loan.
58:06
SPEAKER_05: I I think if you went to a bank with this prospectus and said, I want to uh you know, build pinball machines, and then you give them a list of the machines that you want to buy and you show them the return on investment, and you they're like, You want to go up against turn?
58:22
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you want to build how many?
58:23
SPEAKER_05: 100?
58:27
SPEAKER_05: How could you make any money?
58:28
SPEAKER_05: I don't know how these people are doing.
58:30
SPEAKER_04: There's someone out here listening to this right now.
58:32
SPEAKER_04: It's like, I think when I grow up, I wanna I wanna build pinball machines.
58:37
SPEAKER_05: And you just you just peed all in their Cheerios and I'm sorry, but there's no money in it.
58:42
SPEAKER_05: God bless you.
58:43
SPEAKER_05: It's a tough gig.
58:44
SPEAKER_05: You're gonna have a tough gig.
58:46
SPEAKER_05: Good luck though.
58:47
SPEAKER_05: Let me know how that goes.
58:48
SPEAKER_04: At least you all right, Ralph, what's next?
58:53
SPEAKER_04: Um so I was I I did wanna this is a little out of order, but um what's going on with I know we bring this up every time, but do we need to have like a save Jack Danger campaign?
59:06
SPEAKER_04: Like, what is going on with them?
59:08
SPEAKER_01: Like a like a segment with with uh a little song and dance, right?
59:12
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we can get Glenn Wector to make us a music like where's Jack or something like that?
59:16
SPEAKER_04: Okay, I just don't understand the course of events, how we got to this skewed timeline.
59:20
SPEAKER_04: July of 2025, Stern makes this announcement.
59:23
SPEAKER_04: Jack Danger is the head of community, and in that announcement it said he's gonna finish working on his current game, which we now know is Pokemon, and then and while he transitions into this new role.
59:34
SPEAKER_04: But I don't I just don't feel like that makes sense.
59:37
SPEAKER_04: We love his games.
59:39
SPEAKER_04: I uh and he is good talking to people, he's very good public facing, but I feel like they don't use him enough doing that anyway.
59:46
SPEAKER_04: So if they're not doing that, like it just seems like waste.
59:50
SPEAKER_04: I hate saying this because maybe he's super happy doing this, and I'm a dick for springing it up.
59:54
SPEAKER_04: I just feel like he's got all this talent and it should be used to be.
59:59
SPEAKER_01: I know what you're saying, yeah, right?
1:00:03
SPEAKER_01: Everybody wants to see another game from him.
1:00:06
SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, yeah.
1:00:07
SPEAKER_01: And and he looks like you know, if you follow him on social media, he's having a blast playing around with like all these Whitewood, uh the mechs and all this good stuff.
1:00:16
SPEAKER_01: Um seems happy.
1:00:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:00:20
SPEAKER_04: I don't know, man.
1:00:22
SPEAKER_01: But but then but then Ralph wants the game.
1:00:24
SPEAKER_04: I want a game.
1:00:25
SPEAKER_04: I want the danger games are fun, they're fun games.
1:00:28
SPEAKER_04: And they're gonna be a good one.
1:00:29
SPEAKER_04: Food fighters do that anymore.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_04: Freaking awesome, right?
1:00:31
SPEAKER_04: Yes, Foo Fighters is so fun.
1:00:33
SPEAKER_05: It's just fantastic.
1:00:34
SPEAKER_05: It's so fun.
1:00:35
SPEAKER_04: His games are cool.
1:00:36
SPEAKER_04: I was just playing uh they had a really good uh at Throne Brewing over here on this side of town.
1:00:41
SPEAKER_04: They had a they have an X-Men L E on site that someone must have clearly gone through and and fixed all the stuff.
1:00:47
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I was having a blast playing it.
1:00:49
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, man, this game is cool because the ball paths are different.
1:00:52
SPEAKER_04: It's just so he doesn't so creative.
1:00:55
SPEAKER_01: I just gotta I just feel like he's but so so why would you what do we do?
1:00:59
SPEAKER_01: Are we gonna send him money or what are we thinking?
1:01:02
SPEAKER_05: Well, we solve problems, okay?
1:01:05
SPEAKER_04: That's I don't know how to solve this one because maybe he really is happy and maybe he doesn't want to design games anymore.
1:01:10
SPEAKER_04: Maybe there's a reason why he doesn't that goes.
1:01:13
SPEAKER_05: We should do a short on this.
1:01:14
SPEAKER_05: This would be a brilliant short, Jack.
1:01:16
SPEAKER_04: Tell us what.
1:01:17
SPEAKER_04: But if it's a personal reason, he may not want to sit share it.
1:01:20
SPEAKER_04: I mean, I don't know.
1:01:21
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
1:01:21
SPEAKER_04: Maybe he just maybe there's something about the game design process that while he likes the outcome, maybe he doesn't enjoy the process.
1:01:29
SPEAKER_04: I gotta think that's not for everybody.
1:01:31
SPEAKER_04: The amount of pressure that these guys probably get under to get meet deadlines and timelines, and then that's not for everybody.
1:01:38
SPEAKER_04: Maybe it's that.
1:01:39
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
1:01:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right.
1:01:41
SPEAKER_05: I mean, I mean we miss you.
1:01:43
SPEAKER_05: We miss you.
1:01:44
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we want you back, man.
1:01:46
SPEAKER_05: We we know it sucks, and you maybe you hate it, but do it for Ralph.
1:01:51
SPEAKER_01: Do it anyway.
1:01:52
SPEAKER_01: Do it for me.
1:01:52
SPEAKER_05: I do it to everybody, do it for everybody.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_05: I know you don't live for it.
1:01:55
SPEAKER_01: Life is a series of uncomfortable, hard things.
1:01:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that that's living.
1:02:00
SPEAKER_01: Be miserable for us.
1:02:02
SPEAKER_01: Yes, pressure is a privilege.
1:02:05
SPEAKER_04: Pressure is a privilege.
1:02:07
SPEAKER_04: Okay, so here's the current.
1:02:09
SPEAKER_04: I thought this is where my mind started going.
1:02:11
SPEAKER_04: I was like, well, could he be in the I was like, could he maybe under the table, you know, not publicly be in the lineup still, but I don't think so because now you have Keith, John Borg, Brian Eddy, Elliot Eisman, Tanner Petch now.
1:02:25
SPEAKER_04: So like, would you really add a sixth?
1:02:30
SPEAKER_04: I don't know, like how many designers is too many designers.
1:02:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't think you need to.
1:02:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:02:34
SPEAKER_01: But also, it wouldn't hurt if you sprinkled somebody else in there.
1:02:39
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
1:02:40
SPEAKER_04: Hey, do we know, by the way?
1:02:42
SPEAKER_04: I have everyone's asking me this question lately.
1:02:43
SPEAKER_04: They're like, what's the next stern game?
1:02:47
SPEAKER_04: Are we are we still staying strong on that it's an AC DC remaster?
1:02:50
SPEAKER_04: Is that what we think the next game's gonna be?
1:02:52
SPEAKER_01: Uh I don't that's the next remastered.
1:02:55
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if that's the next game.
1:02:58
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:02:59
SPEAKER_01: There's also a we're probably not gonna see anything at Expo, but maybe like some uh accessories.
1:03:08
SPEAKER_01: Like um D and Fallout.
1:03:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, D and Fallout, I would imagine.
1:03:14
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, kind of like that's what they did last year.
1:03:17
SPEAKER_01: They they didn't announce a game at Expo, they just had the King Kong topper.
1:03:21
SPEAKER_01: Um, so you you you might see something like that.
1:03:24
SPEAKER_01: Or they if they if they have a game ready, they might surprise people.
1:03:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, they've also been working on the you know, the uh the Bond, the Goldfinger edition.
1:03:33
SPEAKER_04: Hey, do you think that that's gonna be the just the same game skinned different, or do you think it'll actually be a different game?
1:03:40
SPEAKER_04: Like there'll be the changes to the actual no.
1:03:43
SPEAKER_01: I'm thinking it's just it's like a spike three version of Bond.
1:03:46
SPEAKER_01: I'm just guessing.
1:03:48
SPEAKER_01: I haven't heard anything.
1:03:49
unknown: Okay.
1:03:50
SPEAKER_04: Bond is the best.
1:03:51
SPEAKER_04: I love Bond.
1:03:52
SPEAKER_04: So I think I mean they they definitely sold a lot of James Bond, so I think that makes sense that they would do something with it.
1:03:58
SPEAKER_04: And then we're hearing a Godzilla on Spike 3.
1:04:01
SPEAKER_04: God, Godzilla on Spike 3 would be cool as hell.
1:04:04
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
1:04:04
SPEAKER_01: Uh don't you think they'd eventually just have to do that?
1:04:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so they're not still making spike two machines.
1:04:10
SPEAKER_01: They have to do that.
1:04:10
SPEAKER_01: That's the future, right?
1:04:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
1:04:12
SPEAKER_05: They gotta do it.
1:04:13
SPEAKER_05: And then we're hearing Dracula, right?
1:04:14
SPEAKER_01: In the first quarter.
1:04:16
SPEAKER_01: Speaking of Godzilla, um, I think everybody's seen this post where uh it was it was who was it, Gomez?
1:04:24
SPEAKER_01: I think Gomez Harrison and Keith with uh Godzilla saying, you know, this was a milestone uh thing here.
1:04:34
SPEAKER_04: I saw the post, yeah.
1:04:35
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:04:35
SPEAKER_01: So but they may, you know, they may have sold 20,000, 20,000 plus.
1:04:41
SPEAKER_01: I don't know, but that was that it's crazy.
1:04:43
SPEAKER_01: It's exciting, right?
1:04:44
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that is cool.
1:04:46
SPEAKER_04: It's a good game.
1:04:48
SPEAKER_04: Um all right, Jamie.
1:04:50
SPEAKER_04: What you got?
1:04:51
SPEAKER_04: We're windling, we're we're we're getting down to the I'm coming, I'm coming.
1:04:56
SPEAKER_01: Oh, are we still doing something?
1:04:57
SPEAKER_04: Do you need my help, Jamie?
1:04:59
SPEAKER_05: Jamie, did you did you space out on us?
1:05:02
SPEAKER_05: No, no, no.
1:05:02
SPEAKER_05: I'm just reading.
1:05:03
SPEAKER_05: Don't worry.
1:05:03
SPEAKER_05: I'll edit this later.
1:05:04
SPEAKER_05: Oh, okay.
1:05:06
SPEAKER_01: He looks like he's too reporting from the Middle East.
1:05:11
SPEAKER_05: I do.
1:05:11
SPEAKER_05: I don't know what to do.
1:05:14
SPEAKER_05: Mom.
1:05:16
SPEAKER_05: They're treating me well.
1:05:18
SPEAKER_05: Uh hey, listen, I do want to talk about Surge and Kale right now.
1:05:22
SPEAKER_05: Oh, wow.
1:05:23
SPEAKER_05: I want to p pivot to your electric backcast.
1:05:28
SPEAKER_05: Not the backcast, the electric uh bat on Twitch.
1:05:32
SPEAKER_05: What you guys have accomplished.
1:05:35
SPEAKER_05: First of all, I I I just want to give you props that it's it is the best Twitch stream of competitive pinball that I've seen in years.
1:05:44
SPEAKER_05: It's fun.
1:05:44
unknown: Okay.
1:05:46
SPEAKER_05: You can bet.
1:05:47
SPEAKER_05: So I'm gonna as an outsider, let me just tell you what you've done and then you take it over, okay, if you don't mind, Kevin.
1:05:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, go with it.
1:05:54
SPEAKER_01: Because I I was busy hanging out with Serge in the booth.
1:05:57
SPEAKER_05: Uh let me tell you, it it it was six.
1:06:00
SPEAKER_05: Hours and I went back and watched all of this, right?
1:06:03
SPEAKER_05: And and I didn't get to watch it live because uh I had to go to bed and go to work.
1:06:07
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:06:07
SPEAKER_01: And if anybody wants to see it, it is on our it's the latest video on our YouTube channel.
1:06:12
SPEAKER_05: 8,000 views.
1:06:14
SPEAKER_01: Oh damn, I didn't even know that.
1:06:17
SPEAKER_05: Right?
1:06:17
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's crazy.
1:06:19
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:06:20
SPEAKER_05: Because what you did is not only did you look the video, everything is great, but Surge integrated OBS in such a way that you can now bet channel points on Twitch live.
1:06:34
SPEAKER_05: Nobody has figured this out.
1:06:36
SPEAKER_05: 9,000 views.
1:06:38
SPEAKER_05: 9,000 views.
1:06:40
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
1:06:41
SPEAKER_01: On competitive pinball.
1:06:42
SPEAKER_05: On competitive pinball Wednesday of night.
1:06:45
SPEAKER_05: How great is that?
1:06:47
SPEAKER_05: That's killer.
1:06:48
SPEAKER_05: So talk to me about the idea that you and Serge had to not only bet channel points but also to integrate his uh APIs.
1:06:59
SPEAKER_01: Well, uh, so when Serge has always talked about this, and he he talked about it on the Dirty Pool podcast, uh, his opinion, and I agree with it, um, how to build pinball.
1:07:12
SPEAKER_01: And there were certain criteria about how sports grew in America.
1:07:18
SPEAKER_01: Um, or I guess around the world, really.
1:07:20
SPEAKER_01: I mean, they were betting on chariot racing.
1:07:23
SPEAKER_01: Um, so he was talking about how to get people more into it, get people more invested.
1:07:32
SPEAKER_01: It you know, social media, you know, you you want that interaction.
1:07:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and to take it to the next level, you are betting your channel points, which are you know, this these imaginary points you get from watching the show, uh, watching the streams uh on Twitch, he figured out how you could bet, like come up with like odds.
1:07:56
SPEAKER_01: This was just in a heads-up tournament, uh, you know, odds for each player.
1:08:00
SPEAKER_01: And so if you put more points on the underdog, you're gonna make more points back.
1:08:05
SPEAKER_01: Um, that's all Serge figuring that stuff out.
1:08:08
SPEAKER_01: And um he did it.
1:08:10
SPEAKER_01: We we've only done it one time.
1:08:11
SPEAKER_01: I think it was a big big success, and uh everybody seemed to have fun with it.
1:08:15
SPEAKER_05: It's just gonna get better and better.
1:08:16
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it was fun, man.
1:08:18
SPEAKER_01: Yes, um, you know, you he was talking to me today, and he was like uh on the next league finals, he's gonna unveil some really earth-shattering new stuff.
1:08:31
SPEAKER_05: Earth-shattering.
1:08:32
SPEAKER_05: And not only are you two uh a wonderful duo, but the fact that he has all this other stuff that he's doing is just fantastic.
1:08:40
SPEAKER_05: It's just fantastic, dude.
1:08:41
SPEAKER_05: I love it.
1:08:43
SPEAKER_04: Kale, when you guys were doing the when you're watching Ty and uh John Schopel play Venom, sir.
1:08:52
SPEAKER_04: I'm sorry, this like this rule makes absolutely no sense.
1:08:55
SPEAKER_04: Like it does, I'm sorry, sir.
1:08:56
SPEAKER_04: It it doesn't.
1:08:57
SPEAKER_04: Like it, I don't know what you did, but it was I don't know.
1:08:59
SPEAKER_04: I just when you integrate like your reactions, his code knowledge, it was it was it was really fun.
1:09:05
SPEAKER_01: Um you know, he's always given Dwight hell about that game because there's a certain level where your score kind of like flattens and you can't get any more.
1:09:14
SPEAKER_01: You're like in a in you know, in a score prison.
1:09:17
SPEAKER_01: You're like, so that's what he was talking about.
1:09:19
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
1:09:20
SPEAKER_04: I gotta say, Kale, the one thing that would I feel like would be so cool, and I'm sure Serge has thought of this already, or you have it would be so cool to get someone just like you know how in sp in sp like boxing when you're watching boxing, they're they're showing you a backstory about that boxer and maybe the drama between the two characters.
1:09:37
SPEAKER_04: It'd be cool to to document like this is Ty Bull, and you guys could press a thing, and it's like Ty introducing himself.
1:09:44
SPEAKER_04: He's like, Yeah, I'm Ty, I've been playing pinball for blah blah blah.
1:09:46
SPEAKER_04: Like, so the people get to know them even more.
1:09:49
SPEAKER_04: 100%.
1:09:51
SPEAKER_01: I have I have had that idea for years.
1:09:55
SPEAKER_01: It would just take a lot of work because first of all, you you would want to do it as like an invite-only, you know, not non-if a kind of like probably like an eight-person tournament, and then yeah, you you get a chance to like hang out with them at the arcade while they're training.
1:10:12
SPEAKER_01: You know, it's it's it's like you know, like you're saying before, a boxing match.
1:10:16
SPEAKER_01: You know, hey, what what do you eat for breakfast?
1:10:18
SPEAKER_01: What you know, yeah.
1:10:20
SPEAKER_01: How do you how do you practice?
1:10:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, how do you practice?
1:10:22
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we were really close to that at the old joint, something like that, you know.
1:10:28
SPEAKER_05: And uh I love what you're doing.
1:10:30
SPEAKER_05: Keep doing it.
1:10:31
SPEAKER_05: It's fantastic.
1:10:32
SPEAKER_05: Congrats, brother.
1:10:33
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you keep up in the game.
1:10:34
SPEAKER_04: It's gonna be a good one.
1:10:35
SPEAKER_01: More stuff to come.
1:10:36
SPEAKER_01: Stay tuned.
1:10:36
SPEAKER_01: Uh twitch.tv slash electric bad arcade and uh all of the the VODs are on our YouTube.
1:10:43
SPEAKER_05: And the VODs are worth going back and watching too, even though you get the channel points.
1:10:47
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:10:48
SPEAKER_01: From switching from that Mac laptop to an actual gaming PC, that's a game changer.
1:10:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:10:55
SPEAKER_01: Pun intended.
1:10:56
SPEAKER_01: You've done a lot of game changing shit over there, buddy.
1:10:59
SPEAKER_05: I have a little sound in my ear that I don't like.
1:11:02
SPEAKER_01: Here we go.
1:11:03
SPEAKER_01: I'm glad we're recording this.
1:11:05
SPEAKER_01: It's okay.
1:11:06
SPEAKER_01: It's okay.
1:11:07
SPEAKER_01: Move on.
1:11:07
SPEAKER_01: What did you touch?
1:11:08
SPEAKER_01: You touched something.
1:11:09
SPEAKER_01: I didn't touch shit.
1:11:11
SPEAKER_01: It was okay.
1:11:13
SPEAKER_05: I'll fix it in post.
1:11:15
SPEAKER_04: I just you have a lot.
1:11:17
SPEAKER_05: Never mind.
1:11:18
SPEAKER_05: We we can't hear anything, so you're good.
1:11:20
SPEAKER_05: I just don't think I sound great.
1:11:22
SPEAKER_05: Is your house haunted?
1:11:24
SPEAKER_05: No, it's an old bungalow.
1:11:26
SPEAKER_05: It's an old you'd love this house.
1:11:27
SPEAKER_05: It's really cute, Gail.
1:11:29
SPEAKER_04: I don't know if you know Rich Boy would like it, but uh probably no it needs to be like you know, 7,000, 10,000 square feet, otherwise not, yeah.
1:11:36
SPEAKER_04: It's not good enough for Rich Boy.
1:11:44
SPEAKER_05: You want to talk about the new Coin Taker app that came out today?
1:11:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:11:49
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so um I I did not look at the app.
1:11:52
SPEAKER_01: Uh I I read about it.
1:11:54
SPEAKER_05: Okay, that's good enough.
1:11:56
SPEAKER_01: So it it just seems like it is a uh a pin-to-go type uh application, right?
1:12:04
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:12:04
SPEAKER_01: And man, I think f for a business to come out and do something like this, this is at this is next level.
1:12:12
SPEAKER_01: Because you know, we've heard for years you if you have a business, you want to be on social media, right?
1:12:17
SPEAKER_01: And then it's yeah, if you have a business, you want to have a podcast, because you're an expert in your field.
1:12:22
SPEAKER_01: This the next level is building an app and having a community.
1:12:27
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's that's this is what the big boys do, and um uh kudos to them for for doing.
1:12:34
SPEAKER_01: I haven't used it yet.
1:12:35
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna I'm gonna make an account and check it out, but uh yeah, I am too.
1:12:38
SPEAKER_01: Sounds like a good idea.
1:12:39
SPEAKER_04: Does anybody know like how it works or anything?
1:12:42
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, dude.
1:12:43
SPEAKER_05: Check this out.
1:12:44
SPEAKER_05: You take your phone, yeah, you played Batman 66, you take a picture of Batman 66, and the app registers that it's Batman 66 premium edition, and it puts your score in.
1:12:56
SPEAKER_05: Pretty bad.
1:12:57
SPEAKER_05: That is pretty cool.
1:12:58
SPEAKER_01: So, how does it work if you're playing a four-player game?
1:13:03
SPEAKER_05: Oh, I don't know.
1:13:03
SPEAKER_05: I think you would just say what player you were.
1:13:06
SPEAKER_05: Maybe.
1:13:07
SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
1:13:08
SPEAKER_04: So it looks like Oh, that's cool.
1:13:11
SPEAKER_04: You can go on the website and it tells you what venues have it or are using it.
1:13:15
SPEAKER_04: That's cool.
1:13:16
SPEAKER_04: Doesn't look like there's that many yet, but I'm sure there will be as people announced it.
1:13:21
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's kind of so good kudos to them.
1:13:25
SPEAKER_05: Looks really cool, especially if this AI interface works with you know taking a picture.
1:13:29
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it says you take a photo and the app reads the game and the scores and you confirm them.
1:13:34
SPEAKER_04: Like a human confirms it.
1:13:35
SPEAKER_04: It's not like it just AIs it.
1:13:37
SPEAKER_04: That's kind of every score you save is public and permanent.
1:13:40
SPEAKER_04: The photo is the evidence.
1:13:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like you've played with Pindigo, right?
1:13:45
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I actually haven't.
1:13:46
SPEAKER_04: I know what it is.
1:13:47
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so similar similar thing.
1:13:49
SPEAKER_01: You take a photo of your score, you know, to document.
1:13:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:13:54
SPEAKER_05: But this adds the score automatically for you.
1:13:57
SPEAKER_01: That's very cool.
1:13:58
SPEAKER_04: That's pretty cool.
1:13:59
SPEAKER_04: Right.
1:13:59
SPEAKER_04: And the golden champion right now for Venom is 6.7 billion.
1:14:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:14:05
SPEAKER_04: Damn.
1:14:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you can blow that game up.
1:14:08
SPEAKER_04: So I got 11 billion on Harry Potter.
1:14:10
SPEAKER_04: I have two, and I thought I was the man.
1:14:11
SPEAKER_04: 11?
1:14:12
SPEAKER_04: You're still the man, bro.
1:14:14
SPEAKER_04: You're still the man.
1:14:15
SPEAKER_01: You got the LE's in the garage.
1:14:17
SPEAKER_01: You're the pinball man.
1:14:18
SPEAKER_04: 11 billion?
1:14:21
SPEAKER_04: This dude's killing it.
1:14:23
SPEAKER_04: His next closest to 11 billion is 958 million.
1:14:27
SPEAKER_04: So this 11 billion guy is going to be grand champion for a little while.
1:14:30
SPEAKER_04: So see, this is gonna make you want to play.
1:14:32
SPEAKER_01: It's I know it's the app's working already.
1:14:35
SPEAKER_05: Already.
1:14:35
SPEAKER_04: Yes, being on a leaderboard.
1:14:38
SPEAKER_04: Being on a leaderboard's cool.
1:14:39
SPEAKER_05: Being on any leaderboard is cool.
1:14:42
SPEAKER_05: And the Stern Insider Connected leaderboard is is you know, to give a shout-out to Stern Insider Connected with the new Pokemon and the home, the leaderboards from Eureka Heights now on your Insider Connected.
1:14:54
SPEAKER_05: It's pretty cool.
1:14:55
SPEAKER_04: So do you guys think, or do we know?
1:14:57
SPEAKER_04: I'm sure maybe Nap did an article on it, but did they did they hire someone to do the software development for this?
1:15:05
SPEAKER_04: And that's kind of cool.
1:15:07
SPEAKER_04: I mean, it's kind of cool that a distro would do this, you know?
1:15:11
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
1:15:12
SPEAKER_01: I have no, yeah, I have no idea.
1:15:14
SPEAKER_01: I don't know the background.
1:15:15
SPEAKER_05: But you know, Jason Nap, if there's anyone that's gonna find out, Nap will do it.
1:15:20
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:15:21
SPEAKER_04: Damn, dude.
1:15:22
SPEAKER_04: That's pretty cool.
1:15:22
SPEAKER_04: All right.
1:15:23
SPEAKER_04: Well, I'm looking forward to checking that out then.
1:15:24
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so new Coin Taker app, what is it called?
1:15:27
SPEAKER_05: The uh Coin Taker leaderboards, Coin Taker.
1:15:31
SPEAKER_04: It just says Coin Taker Leaderboards.
1:15:34
SPEAKER_04: No, that's the that's the Turner one.
1:15:39
SPEAKER_04: That's a Turner one, and that's not out yet, technically.
1:15:41
SPEAKER_04: So remember how we couldn't figure it out?
1:15:43
SPEAKER_04: It's in like beta, but I think he's selected people for that beta.
1:15:47
SPEAKER_04: It's not not everyone can.
1:15:49
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so I don't believe that's not fully live yet.
1:15:52
SPEAKER_04: But I'm looking forward to checking that out once it is.
1:15:54
SPEAKER_05: But so there you go, pin access uh is not out yet, but the new Coin Taker app is.
1:16:01
SPEAKER_05: That's pretty cool.
1:16:03
SPEAKER_04: Well, Pin Access is out, but it's in it's in beta.
1:16:06
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:16:06
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
1:16:07
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
1:16:10
SPEAKER_05: Gomez finally speaks publicly about the reasons uh why transforming Optimus was scrapped.
1:16:16
SPEAKER_05: That was another thing from the George Gomez interview that you wanted to bring up.
1:16:19
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, do you want to hear some interesting quotes from directly from that?
1:16:22
SPEAKER_04: Again, this is the Joel thing.
1:16:25
SPEAKER_04: He said, uh, I I didn't have the confidence that Optimus was gonna sell I I didn't have the comp confidence that Optimus was not gonna self-destruct.
1:16:35
SPEAKER_04: And then he's like, hate me, I killed it.
1:16:39
SPEAKER_06: Really?
1:16:39
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he's like, if you want to hate me, I killed it.
1:16:42
SPEAKER_04: Um and if he he said he said, If you want, if you want to say I failed on Optimus, you can say I failed on Optimus because I let them go.
1:16:51
SPEAKER_04: I let the team go, hoping that I was gonna that they were gonna make it.
1:16:55
SPEAKER_04: Maybe I let them go too far.
1:16:59
SPEAKER_04: So he th his main concern was this.
1:17:02
SPEAKER_04: Now he he said, Look, I killed it.
1:17:04
SPEAKER_04: If you want anybody to blame anybody, blame me.
1:17:06
SPEAKER_04: So he completely just owned up to I'm the reason it doesn't transform.
1:17:10
SPEAKER_04: But then he's like, and here's the reasons why I made that decision.
1:17:14
SPEAKER_04: He's like, look, balls could get trapped under it.
1:17:18
SPEAKER_04: And I and then he d and then he dove into why that was bad.
1:17:21
SPEAKER_04: He's like, the mechanism to get it to transform, he's like, was a little fragile.
1:17:26
SPEAKER_04: He's like, so if if balls were gonna get trapped under it from time to time, it was really stressing that mech.
1:17:32
SPEAKER_04: And he's like, sometimes it wouldn't even recover.
1:17:34
SPEAKER_04: And he goes, I can't sell a mech to like KL Electric Bat and have him buy uh Transformers, and the mech is breaking all the time, right?
1:17:44
SPEAKER_04: Or or or your home.
1:17:46
SPEAKER_04: And I think Stern's failure rate is really low.
1:17:48
SPEAKER_04: I think they probably go for like one percent.
1:17:51
SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
1:17:52
SPEAKER_04: Like maybe one percent of their games have issues that are like major, right?
1:17:56
SPEAKER_04: So, I mean, I'm sure they go for like very, very low percentages.
1:18:00
SPEAKER_04: So, anyways, he owned up that it was him.
1:18:02
SPEAKER_04: He's like, Look, I did it.
1:18:03
SPEAKER_04: Hate me if you want.
1:18:04
SPEAKER_04: He actually said, hate me if you want.
1:18:05
SPEAKER_04: I'm the one that killed it.
1:18:06
SPEAKER_04: But he said, Look, you wouldn't have been happy with it if I gave it to you like that.
1:18:10
SPEAKER_04: So that's his official story.
1:18:13
SPEAKER_04: He one thing that I thought was cool that I didn't know though, you know the 180 shot that's there now?
1:18:18
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that was so this is really technical.
1:18:22
SPEAKER_04: The fact that I can see this actually failing.
1:18:25
SPEAKER_04: Optimus's that was on Optimus's back.
1:18:28
SPEAKER_04: So when he stood up, it would it would make that shot the 180 shot.
1:18:33
SPEAKER_04: So, like, imagine how like that's pretty crazy, too.
1:18:36
SPEAKER_04: So not only was it like in truck form, and then when he went to stand, that pack had to like perfectly align with the wire form to do that loop shot or that 180 shot.
1:18:45
SPEAKER_04: Right.
1:18:45
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
1:18:46
SPEAKER_04: Anyways, but he said, look, I can't.
1:18:48
SPEAKER_01: Well, the thing, also the thing, and I don't know if he explained this part in in the podcast.
1:18:54
SPEAKER_01: Um, because that ramp moved, it made it very unstable.
1:18:59
SPEAKER_01: Like it it rattled.
1:19:00
SPEAKER_01: The shot the shot was even more hard to hit than it is now.
1:19:04
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I'm sure.
1:19:05
SPEAKER_04: I actually, if we really look at it, if it was a big truck sticking out, I don't know.
1:19:10
SPEAKER_04: I kind of can't see that now.
1:19:12
SPEAKER_04: It I don't know, but anyway, he he he basically just owned up to that it was him, and uh that he's like it is what it is.
1:19:20
SPEAKER_01: Um have you tried that new training mode in in the Yeah, I tried it briefly, but it was only for like a couple seconds.
1:19:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I want to mess.
1:19:29
SPEAKER_01: I haven't I haven't tried it yet.
1:19:30
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it just shows you like try uh like it'll it'll set like you can cycle through the the things that it's teaching you to do.
1:19:38
SPEAKER_04: It'll say like here's a drop catch, and it shows you it doing a drop catch, and it says here's a dead bounce, and then you get a chance to it, just keeps the ball saver on all the time, and so if you drain, you just keep trying it again and again.
1:19:49
SPEAKER_01: Cool, yeah, it was kind of pretty cool.
1:19:50
SPEAKER_01: And you get there from holding the flippers in.
1:19:53
SPEAKER_04: Yep, yeah.
1:19:53
SPEAKER_04: It's one of those, like, I don't know what they call that menu.
1:19:55
SPEAKER_04: Is that called like the I don't know what that's called?
1:19:57
SPEAKER_04: I don't I don't know.
1:19:58
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but it's called something, but anyway, yeah, you just hold the two flippers and you can select it in there, so that's pretty cool.
1:20:05
SPEAKER_05: I still love that I'm playing the hell out of it.
1:20:07
SPEAKER_05: I'm dropping a ton of money on it at at Eureka Heights.
1:20:10
SPEAKER_05: It's a great game.
1:20:12
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's a pretty fun game.
1:20:13
SPEAKER_04: It's a pretty fun game.
1:20:14
SPEAKER_04: I really like it.
1:20:15
SPEAKER_05: Elizabeth's just killing it on the code on that thing, so I'm a I'm a big fan of that game.
1:20:21
SPEAKER_05: So there we go.
1:20:22
SPEAKER_04: I'm glad Elliot finally won you over.
1:20:24
SPEAKER_04: And didn't you not didn't you not like it at first?
1:20:29
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I had some issues with the Optimus not moving.
1:20:32
SPEAKER_05: I got caught up in it.
1:20:33
SPEAKER_05: I'm over it.
1:20:34
SPEAKER_05: Oh, you were caught up in the drama, huh?
1:20:35
SPEAKER_05: I got caught up in the drama, and uh, you know, I can admit when I'm wrong.
1:20:40
SPEAKER_05: I was wrong.
1:20:42
SPEAKER_05: I mean, Optimus is dorky as hell.
1:20:44
SPEAKER_05: I'll I'll say that.
1:20:45
SPEAKER_04: Like it doesn't look cool.
1:20:46
SPEAKER_05: It doesn't look quite the you know, there's a room behind them, but whatever.
1:20:51
SPEAKER_05: I'm over.
1:20:52
SPEAKER_04: I'm shocked that no one has come up with just a really cool version of it that just because all that thing is is it just has two like um I don't know what you call them.
1:21:01
SPEAKER_04: What do you call like a post that's threaded?
1:21:03
SPEAKER_04: Like to put it on the play field that just has two posts that are I haven't looked at it.
1:21:07
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, when you take it out, it's just like two threaded pieces that go through the play field, and then you just two nuts that hold it, or maybe it's three.
1:21:14
SPEAKER_04: I'm shocked that no one's just said, hey, let's build a better mold so that it looks cooler.
1:21:20
SPEAKER_01: I've seen some.
1:21:21
SPEAKER_01: Um the guy, you remember the guy Justin, who bought that uh the D premium, they found at like an Amazon sale, like some somebody returned it.
1:21:31
SPEAKER_01: Well, he bought an LE and he was showing me all of his mods.
1:21:34
SPEAKER_01: He had a really cool look.
1:21:35
SPEAKER_01: It's just a static uh Optimus Prime, and it still has the uh you know the uh targets in the legs.
1:21:42
SPEAKER_01: Uh he had a a Canon extension, almost like a like a silencer on the Canon, so it could more direct it in the the proper location, um, all kind of cool stuff.
1:21:54
SPEAKER_01: And he 3D printed the um the stop on that the habit trail that that feeds the upper right flipper.
1:22:01
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:22:02
SPEAKER_01: A lot of people are adding a little bumper there or or like a like a dead stop.
1:22:06
SPEAKER_01: Um and he was showing me that.
1:22:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and have you installed one of those?
1:22:11
SPEAKER_04: I didn't need it.
1:22:12
SPEAKER_04: So I've heard like some people have that problem and some people don't.
1:22:15
SPEAKER_04: Mine, mine's great, like it feeds that consistently good.
1:22:18
SPEAKER_04: So I was the one that had the Canon problems.
1:22:20
SPEAKER_04: My Canon was a pain in the ass.
1:22:22
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, your Canon gave you problems, huh?
1:22:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I was like, So if anybody has uh a transformers and they want a really cheap option, I broke off the uh the the thing that uh from a um old uh lamp socket.
1:22:36
SPEAKER_01: I just broke the like metal arm off and then screwed it to that post.
1:22:41
SPEAKER_01: So it's like a little L bracket, uh, and that totally works.
1:22:45
SPEAKER_04: It just like deadens it and that's it.
1:22:47
SPEAKER_04: Uh huh.
1:22:47
SPEAKER_04: That's wow.
1:22:48
SPEAKER_04: Look at you.
1:22:50
SPEAKER_04: You guys get all creative over there with fixes.
1:22:52
SPEAKER_04: They're so good at the bat.
1:22:54
SPEAKER_04: Didn't you do crazy shit to like fall the empire?
1:22:56
SPEAKER_04: Weren't you guys like sanding shit and filing stuff to move all things?
1:23:00
SPEAKER_01: We we moved the whole Death Star.
1:23:02
SPEAKER_04: Oh, that's right.
1:23:03
SPEAKER_04: You moved it.
1:23:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because it was all it was it was so off.
1:23:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:23:07
SPEAKER_04: It's not off anymore.
1:23:08
SPEAKER_01: Nope.
1:23:10
SPEAKER_04: I did get I did get a mod for Transformers that I think everybody should get if you have the game, though.
1:23:16
SPEAKER_04: It's just a piece of acrylic that I think it's acrylic.
1:23:18
SPEAKER_04: It could be what's that other what's the non-scratchable plastic that they use a lot?
1:23:22
SPEAKER_04: Booty right.
1:23:23
SPEAKER_04: It's not lexicon, right?
1:23:25
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
1:23:26
SPEAKER_04: What whatever, yeah.
1:23:27
SPEAKER_04: It's probably it's made out of some material like that, but it's um it's that it it stops all the air balls from both Optimus's shins and the drop targets.
1:23:36
SPEAKER_04: And it works, it works awesome.
1:23:38
SPEAKER_04: Oh, like it changes the whole game, the all of not change the whole game, but it really makes the air balls go away completely.
1:23:44
SPEAKER_04: And right it was Vic VP that Vic VP is like, dude, you have to get this, and I was like, nah, nah, nah, I don't want to put this big piece of plastic, but you don't really notice it because it's clear, you don't even really notice it when you're gonna do it.
1:23:54
SPEAKER_01: Can you yeah, send me the link?
1:23:55
SPEAKER_01: I want to check it out.
1:23:56
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's like 40 bucks, but it's totally worth it.
1:23:58
SPEAKER_04: Cool, yeah, send me one.
1:23:59
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, for sure.
1:24:00
SPEAKER_01: Let me uh no no send me.
1:24:03
SPEAKER_01: Actually, send me the product.
1:24:04
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I got you.
1:24:06
SPEAKER_05: Buy it for him, would you?
1:24:08
SPEAKER_05: Take care of them.
1:24:09
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, all right.
1:24:10
SPEAKER_05: We're dwindling down, boys.
1:24:12
SPEAKER_05: We've gone pretty fast here.
1:24:14
SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
1:24:15
SPEAKER_05: Well we only have a few left.
1:24:18
SPEAKER_05: All right.
1:24:19
SPEAKER_05: Circus Voltaire launched, still no gameplay video.
1:24:23
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's kind of weird, right?
1:24:26
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
1:24:26
SPEAKER_01: I haven't been following.
1:24:28
SPEAKER_01: So they they announced that we saw beautiful photography, and I guess everybody's just waiting for some gameplay.
1:24:33
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:24:34
SPEAKER_04: I wonder why that's taking that long, though.
1:24:37
SPEAKER_04: That just seems kind of odd.
1:24:39
SPEAKER_04: Like everyone knows, like everyone knows that you'd gotta see the game.
1:24:44
SPEAKER_04: You know, they're bringing a bunch to Expo.
1:24:47
SPEAKER_04: I did hear that.
1:24:48
SPEAKER_01: Very cool.
1:24:49
SPEAKER_04: Maybe they're expecting that to be their hey, let's get it jump started with because I mean once you get feedback from Expo, it'll take off from there.
1:24:56
SPEAKER_04: You know, at least the community people will will all talk about it.
1:25:00
SPEAKER_05: But I did talk to our good friend John Swarez, and he said it's beautiful.
1:25:05
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, didn't he yell it to you or across the room?
1:25:07
SPEAKER_05: He yelled it to me across the room.
1:25:09
SPEAKER_04: So that's the only thing he said to you.
1:25:10
SPEAKER_04: He just like Jamie!
1:25:11
SPEAKER_05: He goes, Jamie, circus is beautiful.
1:25:18
SPEAKER_04: You guys didn't talk at all, at all, the other than that.
1:25:21
SPEAKER_04: No, that was it.
1:25:24
SPEAKER_05: He just told me how beautiful it was.
1:25:25
SPEAKER_05: I was like, all right, buddy, thanks.
1:25:28
SPEAKER_05: That's pretty funny.
1:25:29
SPEAKER_05: Real quick, schedule came out, schedule of events for Pinball Expo 2026, and it's official, ladies and gentlemen.
1:25:38
SPEAKER_05: We did it.
1:25:40
SPEAKER_05: We're off.
1:25:41
SPEAKER_05: Saturday night at 7 p.m.
1:25:44
SPEAKER_05: The round table, pinball round table, no scripts, no fill filters, live from the Pinball Expo with Kale, Ralph, and Jamie.
1:25:53
SPEAKER_05: 7 p.m.
1:25:54
SPEAKER_03: That's awesome.
1:25:55
SPEAKER_05: That's gonna be and then at 8 30 is the content creators in Pinball speakers Josh Roop, Joel Engelberth, Doug Smith, and Melissa Loomis will be at 8 30, so we'll get to watch that later as well.
1:26:07
SPEAKER_05: Shout out to them.
1:26:08
SPEAKER_05: Um so we will be able to still watch that, right?
1:26:11
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, because ours is you know, we're not messing around.
1:26:15
SPEAKER_05: Ladies and gentlemen, we're not gonna go live.
1:26:18
SPEAKER_05: We're just gonna record it, and then the guys from Pinball News are gonna send us and we'll drop it as a uh as a quick podcast.
1:26:28
SPEAKER_05: What do you think, Kale?
1:26:29
SPEAKER_05: That yeah, it sounds like a plan.
1:26:31
SPEAKER_05: This way we can't we we don't have time.
1:26:34
SPEAKER_05: You know, it this yeah, we're not gonna have time.
1:26:38
SPEAKER_01: What the hell was that?
1:26:40
SPEAKER_01: What are you talking about?
1:26:42
SPEAKER_04: It sounded like a magic wand or some kind of yeah.
1:26:45
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:26:46
SPEAKER_04: All right.
1:26:47
SPEAKER_04: Anyway, we won't have time, and that's what we're gonna do.
1:26:49
SPEAKER_04: I don't know what the hell that was.
1:26:50
SPEAKER_04: All right, I just I look if I look distracted, I just Cale, I just ordered you the plastic thing, so I'll kidding me.
1:26:55
SPEAKER_04: I ordered it for you.
1:26:56
SPEAKER_01: You you Ralph, see?
1:26:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it pays to the Everybody needs it.
1:27:01
SPEAKER_01: Click clip it.
1:27:03
SPEAKER_04: Everyone needs an entitled rich kid friend that can buy you stuff.
1:27:06
SPEAKER_04: What a guy.
1:27:08
SPEAKER_04: What a guy.
1:27:09
SPEAKER_05: What a guy.
1:27:10
SPEAKER_05: Ralph is the best friend, I'll tell you what.
1:27:12
SPEAKER_05: I don't know why people don't love him.
1:27:15
SPEAKER_05: I don't understand.
1:27:16
SPEAKER_04: But there are people that don't love you, Jamie.
1:27:18
SPEAKER_05: There's some other out there, yeah.
1:27:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like right?
1:27:22
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:27:23
SPEAKER_01: Like people, people in certain companies, huh?
1:27:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, but I don't but I think you're lovely, Jamie.
1:27:29
SPEAKER_03: I'm using your word.
1:27:30
SPEAKER_03: I think you're lovely.
1:27:30
SPEAKER_03: I think I don't know why that people would, you know.
1:27:33
unknown: I don't know.
1:27:34
SPEAKER_05: We'll get over it.
1:27:35
SPEAKER_05: We'll get through it.
1:27:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we'll keep it.
1:27:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so Sir Circus Voltaire, we're excited to see.
1:27:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:27:40
SPEAKER_01: We're excited to see this.
1:27:42
SPEAKER_01: I'm very excited.
1:27:43
SPEAKER_01: It's gonna be great.
1:27:44
SPEAKER_01: These guys know how to build a machine.
1:27:45
SPEAKER_01: We know that.
1:27:46
SPEAKER_01: We know a track record, and it looks cool as hell.
1:27:51
SPEAKER_05: I'm wondering if they're so they're making a hundred of them, right?
1:27:55
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that all it is?
1:27:56
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
1:27:58
SPEAKER_01: Oh, of the of that one version of the.
1:28:00
SPEAKER_05: One version, yeah, of the Brian.
1:28:01
SPEAKER_05: I don't know if it's a hundred, but it's a limited.
1:28:03
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:28:03
SPEAKER_05: It's a limited version.
1:28:06
SPEAKER_05: But we'll get to play it.
1:28:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, get the other version.
1:28:09
SPEAKER_05: It's a month away, guys.
1:28:10
SPEAKER_05: Can you believe it?
1:28:11
SPEAKER_05: We're a month away from X.
1:28:12
SPEAKER_04: I know it's kind of crazy.
1:28:14
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:28:15
SPEAKER_05: But then we, you know, our our goal is do we do pinball at the beach, not 2027, but 2027.
1:28:22
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if that's happening.
1:28:23
SPEAKER_05: Oh, we we don't know.
1:28:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I've I I talked to some people who knew some like vendors from the you know, past vendors, and they haven't heard anything, so yeah.
1:28:35
SPEAKER_01: We don't we don't know if it's actually happening.
1:28:37
SPEAKER_04: I think you guys have the unit numbers wrong.
1:28:39
SPEAKER_04: It's 772 of the limited Circus Voltaire Ringmaster editions, and then they not they're not capping that's to honor 1772, the backstory year of the something Voltaire, whatever or Savior, yeah.
1:28:56
SPEAKER_04: Um, and then the classic one they're not gonna cap, it's just however many people want they'll make.
1:29:01
SPEAKER_04: So that's I thought they were gonna make a limited.
1:29:05
SPEAKER_04: I think that is that is the ringmaster edition, it's 772.
1:29:10
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:29:11
SPEAKER_04: Are they gonna sell 772 of those?
1:29:14
SPEAKER_01: I think they are.
1:29:15
SPEAKER_01: Um it looks freaking like I mean they sold 700 Bon Jovi's, bro.
1:29:20
SPEAKER_01: All right, that's hey, tell us more.
1:29:22
SPEAKER_04: Wait, you guys have us, there's another topic on here, and I want to know what happened because I'm sure one of you guys watched it.
1:29:27
SPEAKER_04: So David Van Esse went live again on Facebook.
1:29:30
SPEAKER_04: What did he talk about?
1:29:31
SPEAKER_01: What was the whole I did not watch it, and I was embarrassed to say when I when I saw it on the list here, I didn't even know he went live.
1:29:38
SPEAKER_01: I'm not on Facebook very much at all.
1:29:40
SPEAKER_01: But but last time he did it, I like I gave him kudos.
1:29:44
SPEAKER_01: I was like, Yeah, it was cool.
1:29:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, this is what people want.
1:29:47
SPEAKER_01: Like talking directly to the a person at a pinball company actually doing this stuff, and he did it again.
1:29:54
SPEAKER_01: I'll have to go back and and watch it.
1:29:56
SPEAKER_05: I watched, I went back and watched a lot of it, and and it just as good as the first one.
1:30:00
SPEAKER_05: He did a great job.
1:30:01
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:30:02
SPEAKER_05: So what was he talking about, Jamie?
1:30:03
SPEAKER_05: Do you remember?
1:30:04
SPEAKER_05: You know, people were asking questions, and you know, I left my potty.
1:30:11
SPEAKER_05: You know, they were glowing.
1:30:12
SPEAKER_01: Hey, hey, there were some questions.
1:30:15
SPEAKER_03: He had some answers and uh you know when people in the comments say these guys will sometimes bring up topics that they know nothing about.
1:30:24
SPEAKER_03: This is one of those, I think.
1:30:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we do that.
1:30:27
SPEAKER_01: We do that, right?
1:30:28
SPEAKER_01: We do that.
1:30:30
SPEAKER_01: World's number for number one.
1:30:32
SPEAKER_05: Well, we were, you know, we're we're ranked up there.
1:30:35
SPEAKER_05: We're definitely ranked up there.
1:30:37
SPEAKER_03: Oh, you're you're you're you're uh pulling back on number one?
1:30:40
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
1:30:41
SPEAKER_03: This is number one.
1:30:42
SPEAKER_03: Did you get heat for saying that they're saying that?
1:30:45
SPEAKER_05: I I got a little heat from saying that we were number one.
1:30:48
SPEAKER_05: Just a tiny bit.
1:30:51
SPEAKER_05: Just asking us where we came up with this, and I'm like, whatever, we're number one.
1:30:56
SPEAKER_01: Did you did you go?
1:30:57
SPEAKER_01: Uh did you ghost them?
1:30:58
SPEAKER_01: You gave him a pinball brothers, right?
1:31:00
SPEAKER_05: No, no.
1:31:00
SPEAKER_05: I just said numbers don't lie.
1:31:02
SPEAKER_05: Gone fishing.
1:31:04
SPEAKER_05: Numbers don't lie.
1:31:05
SPEAKER_04: Pinball brothers, that's a bummer, huh?
1:31:08
SPEAKER_04: It is a bummer because I think they were just kind of catching their stride.
1:31:12
SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
1:31:13
SPEAKER_01: You know, Predator was actually is actually very cool.
1:31:16
SPEAKER_01: Um we had a great time with that game.
1:31:19
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's unfortunate though.
1:31:21
SPEAKER_04: They did have a lot of like when you're in the owner's thread for that game, though, man.
1:31:25
SPEAKER_04: It's like people are oh, I had to slope my flippers this way and that way and bend this and move that.
1:31:30
SPEAKER_04: I mean, this definitely it's definitely got it has some manufacturing problems where like I had to do some stuff and bend some things.
1:31:38
SPEAKER_04: So that's gonna have to bend anything, right?
1:31:42
SPEAKER_04: I mean, if it's like a minor thing, most of these were actually, if I'm being honest, most of them were pretty minor.
1:31:47
SPEAKER_04: Like they were little things, but if it was someone's first game, they might feel a little weird being like, What do you want me to do now?
1:31:53
SPEAKER_04: I gotta bend.
1:31:54
SPEAKER_04: Right.
1:31:54
SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
1:31:55
SPEAKER_04: So Yeah.
1:31:56
SPEAKER_04: Well, the biggest issue I had was there was a there was a sculpt that sit on that sat on top of the there's a 180 shot on the left, and it would just go under, and the piece of metal flap was too far down, so it would just get stuck.
1:32:11
SPEAKER_04: That was my first shot.
1:32:12
SPEAKER_04: I opened it up, plunged the ball, shot, and it just stuck there, and I'm like, Well, this isn't going so well at first.
1:32:20
SPEAKER_04: But it was it was literally like you just you just had to bend the piece of metal up, and that was it.
1:32:26
SPEAKER_04: So that's what I mean.
1:32:27
SPEAKER_04: I can see that being like uncomfortable if it's your first pinball machine.
1:32:31
SPEAKER_04: Some someone's telling you to bend stuff.
1:32:32
SPEAKER_04: Oh, for sure.
1:32:33
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but you don't want to buy a pinball brothers as your first one, do you?
1:32:37
SPEAKER_01: No, get a start.
1:32:38
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I probably wouldn't advise that to be someone's first.
1:32:43
SPEAKER_05: I mean, what we're doing.
1:32:44
SPEAKER_05: Come on.
1:32:44
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, start there and get comfortable with it then.
1:32:47
SPEAKER_05: Get get get comfortable and go a little crazy.
1:32:51
SPEAKER_04: So I must have missed this other point that you guys had on here.
1:32:54
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah um, the Transformers, they were they've had a pinball machine ad because I went and saw the movie last night, but I we were a couple minutes late, so the movie was already starting.
1:33:03
SPEAKER_01: So uh my buddy sent me a photo, he went to see uh the animated Transformers movie from the 80s.
1:33:09
SPEAKER_01: It's it's on the big screen now.
1:33:11
SPEAKER_01: Uh he said there was an ad for the Stern pinball machine before the movie.
1:33:16
SPEAKER_01: That's pretty cool.
1:33:17
SPEAKER_01: That's great.
1:33:18
SPEAKER_01: He sent me a photo of it.
1:33:19
SPEAKER_01: That's super cool.
1:33:20
SPEAKER_04: That is super cool.
1:33:22
SPEAKER_04: So I gotta tell you, this movie would be worth going to see just to see the 12-minute short movie that they play after it.
1:33:31
SPEAKER_04: Oh, what's that about?
1:33:33
SPEAKER_04: It's called Optimus Prime Awakening.
1:33:36
SPEAKER_04: Uh-huh.
1:33:36
SPEAKER_04: And it's this whole like Optimus Prime, I won't give it away, but Optimus Prime is like floating in space.
1:33:42
SPEAKER_04: Like he's dead, right?
1:33:44
SPEAKER_04: But he's floating in space, lifeless, dead, all grayed out, just like he was from the movie, the end of the movie, right?
1:33:50
SPEAKER_04: Or in the beginning of the movie when he dies.
1:33:51
SPEAKER_04: And then all of a sudden, he's awakened by this voice, like out in the universe, and it starts there, and it's fucking cool.
1:34:01
SPEAKER_04: Like the animation, someone said this is all brand new.
1:34:04
SPEAKER_04: It's all brand new.
1:34:05
SPEAKER_04: Someone must have said, I want you to make this animation so goddamn cool.
1:34:10
SPEAKER_04: It it is so cool.
1:34:12
SPEAKER_04: I was blown away.
1:34:13
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, Holy shit, we wanted more.
1:34:15
SPEAKER_04: Now, there's probably uh definitely a debate on the internet.
1:34:17
SPEAKER_04: People are well, there is.
1:34:19
SPEAKER_04: I was looking in some of the chat.
1:34:20
SPEAKER_04: People are some people are pissed about the the way this thing went, some people love it.
1:34:25
SPEAKER_04: Cool, yeah, but it's so worth it.
1:34:27
SPEAKER_04: I hope they release it as its own thing.
1:34:29
SPEAKER_04: So after because if they're only running the movie for six days or five more days, okay.
1:34:33
SPEAKER_04: I hope they just put this on like YouTube or something, but it's so worth seeing in a movie theater.
1:34:39
SPEAKER_04: It it was epic.
1:34:41
SPEAKER_04: But the one thing I totally forgot about the Transformers, the movie, that movie is like a giant 80s music montage.
1:34:48
SPEAKER_04: The whole movie, it's just Transformers fighting and awesome 80s music, rock and roll, like playing.
1:34:53
SPEAKER_04: It's it's it's that's all that whole movie is, but but I don't know.
1:34:57
SPEAKER_04: We had we had fun with it.
1:34:58
SPEAKER_04: Um, so Cole had never seen it, so he was all excited, but no, it was it was cool.
1:35:03
SPEAKER_04: We had a good time.
1:35:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm looking forward to checking it out.
1:35:06
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you should for sure.
1:35:08
SPEAKER_05: So this is I have a conundrum, boys.
1:35:12
SPEAKER_05: I have the this is podcast number 98 for me.
1:35:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:35:17
SPEAKER_05: And then 99, I'm doing uh I'm interviewing Ian and Drew from the Poor Man's Pinball Network.
1:35:24
SPEAKER_05: Cool.
1:35:25
SPEAKER_05: Like they retired, so uh we're gonna interview them next week.
1:35:28
SPEAKER_05: They'll be number 99.
1:35:30
SPEAKER_05: I want to do something really cool for 100.
1:35:35
SPEAKER_05: But I don't know what to do here.
1:35:37
SPEAKER_05: Well, I have to think about something.
1:35:38
SPEAKER_05: I gotta think about something I want to do for 100.
1:35:41
SPEAKER_05: But I don't I'm running out of time because if I put up 100 as the the number what we did at Expo.
1:35:49
SPEAKER_01: It's gonna sneak up on you, Jamie.
1:35:50
SPEAKER_05: It's gonna sneak up.
1:35:52
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:35:52
SPEAKER_05: So I'd like to plan something pretty awesome for 100.
1:35:56
SPEAKER_05: You know, maybe just do a uh Riverside and just have 15 minutes with people that I love.
1:36:04
SPEAKER_05: Just come on and say hello and something cool like that.
1:36:07
SPEAKER_05: That'd be fun.
1:36:08
SPEAKER_01: Like like what Albert did that one wasn't that on Christmas?
1:36:11
SPEAKER_05: I would totally rip that off, but I'd do it a little more organized.
1:36:15
SPEAKER_01: That was a great show.
1:36:17
SPEAKER_05: That was a good show, Albert.
1:36:19
SPEAKER_01: Because he was he was hammered at the end, right?
1:36:21
SPEAKER_05: I know.
1:36:21
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, maybe I can drink some seltzers and go on, but uh that could be fun.
1:36:27
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I want to do something special for you.
1:36:28
SPEAKER_01: What you got, Ralph?
1:36:30
SPEAKER_04: Hold the phone.
1:36:31
SPEAKER_04: I have not had one bite on my predator for sale, and one just came in.
1:36:35
SPEAKER_04: We got a lead on a sale here.
1:36:37
SPEAKER_04: Oh, very good.
1:36:39
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so we'll see.
1:36:40
SPEAKER_04: We'll see.
1:36:40
SPEAKER_04: Is he liking the price?
1:36:42
SPEAKER_04: It's actually it looks like it's it's someone trying to buy it for her boyfriend.
1:36:47
SPEAKER_04: He's gonna love it.
1:36:48
SPEAKER_01: It is a great decision.
1:36:50
SPEAKER_01: Taylor.
1:36:51
SPEAKER_01: Tell her.
1:36:53
SPEAKER_01: I'll mess with it right now.
1:36:56
SPEAKER_01: Very limited.
1:36:58
SPEAKER_01: Very showpiece.
1:37:00
SPEAKER_01: Yep, extremely limited showpiece edition.
1:37:04
SPEAKER_04: Ver rare Grail.
1:37:06
SPEAKER_04: Grail, rare grail.
1:37:07
SPEAKER_01: Very rare Grail game.
1:37:09
SPEAKER_04: Grail.
1:37:10
SPEAKER_04: No metal needs to be bent.
1:37:11
SPEAKER_01: You know what?
1:37:12
SPEAKER_01: You need to get your hands um, I'm gonna see if I can find it.
1:37:15
SPEAKER_01: If if you you don't have a contact, you know, they have code with Arnold Arnold, his voice in it.
1:37:22
SPEAKER_04: I know I gotta get that.
1:37:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:37:25
SPEAKER_05: That's a big seminary.
1:37:26
SPEAKER_05: Just before you, just before you get rid of it.
1:37:28
SPEAKER_05: I mean, yeah, you want to have that.
1:37:29
SPEAKER_05: There is a firm.
1:37:30
SPEAKER_04: Um there's a tool that's really cool on pin side that this guy I'll bring it up because Cool Toy Douglas Smith just did a video on.
1:37:41
SPEAKER_04: He he basically took JJP's Sonic and added like he basically made all the soundtrack stuff, all the video game stuff.
1:37:50
SPEAKER_04: But this tool is called PED or PED or something, and you um you download it, and what it does is it, I think this is I'm I'm it might be not exactly like this, but this is the basic idea.
1:38:00
SPEAKER_04: You you take the image of the game, like whatever the image is.
1:38:04
SPEAKER_04: So like you download the latest full package, you give this app the full package, and it cracks open the file system.
1:38:11
SPEAKER_04: So when you see it, it might be like Predator or um get to the chopper multiball, and it has like an MP4 file that plays.
1:38:19
SPEAKER_04: So you just exchange it.
1:38:21
SPEAKER_04: Any manufacturer they support right now.
1:38:25
SPEAKER_04: I mean, it's it's not like legit, I guess, but it supports Pinball Brothers, uh American Pinball, JJP, I think Stern, because that's how people were doing some people.
1:38:36
SPEAKER_04: We were using it to do like the movie or the movie code for Avengers and Jurassic Park, and Stranger Things, yeah.
1:38:41
SPEAKER_04: And stranger, so it's kind of cool, but I'm shocked that no one from the manufacturers has like shot it up, shut it off.
1:38:49
SPEAKER_04: But I I guess it's who could get in trouble in that in there, like that's a gray area, right?
1:38:55
SPEAKER_04: Because yeah, just let them have fun.
1:38:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean I mean they could definitely break it if they wanted to.
1:39:01
SPEAKER_04: But if they break, I mean the guy has things all over it, like, look, if you brick your shit, that's on you.
1:39:05
SPEAKER_04: Um which I think is smart, right?
1:39:07
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, put a screamer on there.
1:39:10
SPEAKER_04: But it there's so many cool possibilities because I I was thinking too, like, you could put the whole movie soundtrack back into Predator if you wanted.
1:39:20
SPEAKER_04: That'd be pretty cool.
1:39:22
SPEAKER_04: But what what Cool Toy What Cool Toy did is actually really cool.
1:39:25
SPEAKER_04: Like, you should watch the video because like all he made every zone of uh so every zone where you're fighting Eggman, he made those different egg man battle music from the video game, so it's not always the same.
1:39:39
SPEAKER_04: I was like, that's pretty freaking cool.
1:39:41
SPEAKER_05: So let's talk about Sonic for a minute while we're rapping.
1:39:44
SPEAKER_05: Well, you hate it, but I don't hate it, it's just very repetitive right now.
1:39:50
SPEAKER_05: I still haven't played it.
1:39:52
SPEAKER_05: Dude, it's first of all, when you when you first get up there, you want to choose your zone.
1:39:57
SPEAKER_05: Nobody knows that you have to press this button to choose your zone.
1:39:59
SPEAKER_05: So everyone plays the green zone, it's the same damn thing every time.
1:40:03
SPEAKER_05: But what they need to do is let you know what your shots are gonna be for each mode you're in.
1:40:11
SPEAKER_04: You just gave me my idea for my short tomorrow.
1:40:13
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna republish my how to play Sonic the Zones, and I'm gonna I'm gonna clip you in saying that no one knows how.
1:40:20
SPEAKER_04: And I'm gonna say this is the second time I've published this, but I'm publishing this one specially for Jamie so he can know what to do.
1:40:27
SPEAKER_04: So thank you.
1:40:28
SPEAKER_04: Struggle with it.
1:40:29
SPEAKER_04: And it's just seem it's very samesy.
1:40:33
SPEAKER_04: I mean, there is repetitiveness to it for sure.
1:40:35
SPEAKER_04: I can't really argue that fact.
1:40:37
SPEAKER_04: I mean, it's yeah, there we go.
1:40:38
SPEAKER_04: I'm looking forward to the new code.
1:40:40
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's supposed to come out next week.
1:40:41
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:40:41
SPEAKER_01: Well, I guess you probably don't have to worry about any more Steve games from JJP.
1:40:48
SPEAKER_01: I think he's moving on.
1:40:50
SPEAKER_01: Do you think he'd go to somewhere else?
1:40:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm I'm pretty sure he is.
1:40:55
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:40:56
SPEAKER_05: Alright, American Pinball, here we go.
1:41:00
SPEAKER_05: I want Pat Lawler to come out of retirement.
1:41:06
SPEAKER_05: Him and Jack Bell.
1:41:08
SPEAKER_05: Him and Jack.
1:41:09
SPEAKER_03: And Jack definitely.
1:41:11
SPEAKER_03: He's gotta get back.
1:41:12
SPEAKER_03: Jack, we need Jack back.
1:41:15
SPEAKER_04: We need t-shirts.
1:41:17
SPEAKER_04: We should do save, we should do like save like instead of save Ferris shirts, there should be like save Jack shirts.
1:41:25
SPEAKER_04: I bet people would wear the shit out of those, but then I don't know, then he'd probably get sad.
1:41:28
SPEAKER_04: I don't want to make Jack sad.
1:41:29
SPEAKER_04: That's I definitely don't want to do that.
1:41:32
SPEAKER_05: No, that's not our intention.
1:41:34
SPEAKER_04: No.
1:41:34
SPEAKER_04: I just we just know how talented he is and we love his games, and we just want more, we want more Jack games.
1:41:40
SPEAKER_04: That's that's what we want.
1:41:41
SPEAKER_04: That's what we want.
1:41:41
SPEAKER_04: And I'm pretty sure that's universally felt.
1:41:45
SPEAKER_05: Well, we've learned a lot here, ladies and gentlemen.
1:41:47
SPEAKER_05: What do we learn?
1:41:48
SPEAKER_05: We learned that Ralph doesn't have the patience for the best pinball players in front of us.
1:41:53
SPEAKER_05: We learn this.
1:41:54
SPEAKER_01: It's okay though.
1:41:55
SPEAKER_01: He's learning.
1:41:56
SPEAKER_05: He's learning.
1:41:57
SPEAKER_05: We learned that Rachel might not like you anymore, Rachel Risto.
1:42:02
SPEAKER_05: But maybe we'll work that out.
1:42:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:42:04
SPEAKER_05: Time heals all wounds.
1:42:06
SPEAKER_05: It sure does.
1:42:07
SPEAKER_05: What else did we learn here today?
1:42:10
SPEAKER_03: Did we learn anything about you?
1:42:11
SPEAKER_03: Jamie's.
1:42:12
SPEAKER_05: We learned that Jamie's technically deficient.
1:42:15
SPEAKER_01: You can't run a roadcaster.
1:42:17
SPEAKER_01: I can't.
1:42:18
SPEAKER_05: Jamie's roadcaster just randomly breaks.
1:42:22
SPEAKER_05: That sounds good because my sound in my ears sounds like shit.
1:42:26
SPEAKER_01: You you sound good on our end.
1:42:27
SPEAKER_05: Sound good on our end, yeah.
1:42:29
SPEAKER_05: Good, thank Christ.
1:42:30
SPEAKER_01: Ralph and I were talking while you couldn't hear us, and we were thinking you need a focus right.
1:42:38
SPEAKER_01: It's a it's just a dumb device.
1:42:41
SPEAKER_01: It's an input.
1:42:42
SPEAKER_01: You would plug your mic and headphone in, and then the the USB to your computer.
1:42:47
SPEAKER_01: That's it.
1:42:48
SPEAKER_01: Flawless.
1:42:48
SPEAKER_04: Flawless.
1:42:49
SPEAKER_04: There's nothing that could the only thing that could go wrong is it's not plugged in.
1:42:53
SPEAKER_05: So do you think I should dip the roadcaster?
1:42:56
SPEAKER_04: You should take the roadcaster and put it in your little pile of stuff for equal.
1:43:02
SPEAKER_04: No, that doesn't matter.
1:43:03
SPEAKER_04: It's still a it's still gonna mess up.
1:43:04
SPEAKER_04: It's too many options.
1:43:05
SPEAKER_04: It's too many.
1:43:06
SPEAKER_04: We need you to have focus, and this will be focused.
1:43:09
SPEAKER_04: Kale's so right.
1:43:10
SPEAKER_04: One connection to the focus rate, one connection to the laptop.
1:43:14
SPEAKER_04: It's flawless.
1:43:15
SPEAKER_04: There's no way it's gonna fail.
1:43:18
SPEAKER_04: I have an extra rate.
1:43:19
SPEAKER_04: Here we go.
1:43:20
SPEAKER_04: No, I have an extra one from when I used to use the focus rate.
1:43:23
SPEAKER_04: I used to have a focus rate and a DB DBX 286 or whatever.
1:43:28
SPEAKER_04: I had a I had like a analog preamp.
1:43:31
SPEAKER_04: Right.
1:43:31
SPEAKER_04: And then I'd I'd run my mic into the analog preamp, and then the and then the focus rate was my way to get it to the computer, basically.
1:43:37
SPEAKER_04: It was just an interface.
1:43:39
SPEAKER_01: But Jamie, they're so inexpensive.
1:43:42
SPEAKER_01: Even for a backup, like you wouldn't be so frustrated uh, you know, today.
1:43:47
SPEAKER_01: Well, you you'd still be frustrated, but you know, less because less.
1:43:51
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I came out, you know, when we started this podcast, I was so flustered, boys.
1:43:55
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you were really flushed.
1:43:57
SPEAKER_01: And it was just it went, you went down in flames at the beginning.
1:44:00
SPEAKER_04: I did.
1:44:01
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I felt like you I there was a moment where I'm like, he's actually pissed right now.
1:44:05
SPEAKER_04: I'll I'll back off.
1:44:07
SPEAKER_04: You looked angry a little bit for a second.
1:44:09
SPEAKER_04: I don't think I've ever seen that in you, but I was like, okay, I'll back off.
1:44:14
SPEAKER_05: I was pissed.
1:44:15
SPEAKER_05: I was like getting ass japped because I couldn't figure it out.
1:44:19
SPEAKER_05: Well, we we made it happen.
1:44:21
SPEAKER_05: God bless you both.
1:44:23
SPEAKER_05: All right, we're a month away from expo.
1:44:25
SPEAKER_05: I told everybody in my office, yeah, because they office out of Chicago, so now I need to get by a bunch of passes for a bunch of clowns that come through my office.
1:44:34
SPEAKER_05: But that's okay.
1:44:35
SPEAKER_05: I'll get one-day passes on Saturday.
1:44:37
SPEAKER_05: That'd be fun.
1:44:38
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:44:40
SPEAKER_04: Um, I did want to say one thing uh real quick.
1:44:43
SPEAKER_04: We um please.
1:44:45
SPEAKER_04: So Jason Webb, who owns the Tilt Games, he's dealing with some pretty scary health stuff.
1:44:51
SPEAKER_04: So I just wanted to give a shout out to him and that we're thinking about him.
1:44:55
SPEAKER_04: Because uh, yeah, it's some heart-related things, so he's not uh he's not in good shape right now, but we just wish him a speedy recovery and and all that.
1:45:02
SPEAKER_04: So hopefully he's back at it soon.
1:45:04
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, for sure.
1:45:05
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he's a great guy.
1:45:07
SPEAKER_04: I've never met him.
1:45:08
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you'll oh well, hopefully if he if he's up for it.
1:45:12
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
1:45:13
SPEAKER_04: Actually, he probably won't make it to expo.
1:45:14
SPEAKER_04: I think this was the first actually, I think this was the first year he was gonna actually go to expo.
1:45:18
SPEAKER_04: I don't think he's gonna make it because he he'll pretty he'll he won't he'll need to recover.
1:45:21
SPEAKER_05: But uh I'm sure he'll speedy recovery, sir.
1:45:24
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:45:25
SPEAKER_05: And that's all she wrote, I think, for the round table.
1:45:28
SPEAKER_05: I don't know if this was my best episode, guys.
1:45:30
SPEAKER_05: I think I brought us down a little.
1:45:31
SPEAKER_01: No, I think it was great.
1:45:33
SPEAKER_01: It was good.
1:45:34
SPEAKER_01: It was fine, man.
1:45:37
SPEAKER_04: I mean, in the beginning it was a little rocky, but they didn't but you when the lights came on, you clicked right in, dude.
1:45:43
SPEAKER_04: Right.
1:45:44
SPEAKER_01: And then and that's what makes it special, man.
1:45:46
SPEAKER_01: You got you gotta do hard things, dude.
1:45:48
SPEAKER_01: And we did it.
1:45:49
SPEAKER_01: We pulled it up.
1:45:50
SPEAKER_05: Pressure is a privilege.
1:45:51
SPEAKER_05: I learned that phrase this week.
1:45:53
SPEAKER_05: You know, I'm telling you, I'm struggling big time though.
1:45:56
SPEAKER_05: Because my wife is out of town for the last four weeks.
1:46:00
SPEAKER_05: Oh, wow.
1:46:01
SPEAKER_05: She's seven days away.
1:46:02
SPEAKER_05: So I'm gonna be I haven't seen her in four weeks.
1:46:06
SPEAKER_05: She is in Bon Air off the coast of Venezuela.
1:46:10
SPEAKER_05: Unbelievable.
1:46:11
SPEAKER_05: And living it up and having a few.
1:46:13
SPEAKER_01: So that's why you, you know, the the gray backdrop.
1:46:17
SPEAKER_05: That's the bad backdrop, you know, the bad shirt.
1:46:21
SPEAKER_05: I don't look good.
1:46:22
SPEAKER_05: My shave, I'm just you haven't showered in weeks.
1:46:25
SPEAKER_05: I'm disheveled.
1:46:26
SPEAKER_05: Disheveled.
1:46:28
SPEAKER_05: I need to be able to do that.
1:46:29
SPEAKER_01: What have you okay?
1:46:29
SPEAKER_01: So, Jamie, what have you you've been eating pizza and chicken fingers?
1:46:33
SPEAKER_05: No, I've been eating actually pretty decently.
1:46:36
SPEAKER_05: Uh Harrison's um here and he's taking care of me.
1:46:40
SPEAKER_05: My old my youngest son and our youngest.
1:46:43
SPEAKER_05: And so I got chicken noodle soup today.
1:46:45
SPEAKER_05: Oh, I had some Mexican, though.
1:46:47
SPEAKER_05: I had tacos acrobat.
1:46:49
SPEAKER_05: Oh.
1:46:50
SPEAKER_05: Love that.
1:46:51
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:46:51
SPEAKER_03: How do you say chamomile again, Jamie?
1:46:53
SPEAKER_04: Chamomile.
1:46:55
SPEAKER_04: Oh.
1:46:56
SPEAKER_04: That's my favorite.
1:46:57
SPEAKER_04: You it was so not even remotely like the word chamomile.
1:47:01
SPEAKER_04: Um but I'll tell you, we did we missed, you missed a great dinner, Ralph.
1:47:06
SPEAKER_04: I know, I know, but I hadn't seen my wife in a while, and I was like, Oh, no, no, no, that's important.
1:47:11
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, Michelin's Michelin Star.
1:47:13
SPEAKER_05: We went to a Michelin star place again.
1:47:15
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:47:16
SPEAKER_01: So it was like, it was you, me, Serge, and Rachel.
1:47:19
SPEAKER_05: Uh-huh.
1:47:20
SPEAKER_01: Crushing it.
1:47:21
SPEAKER_01: Uh, nice little spot called Valentine.
1:47:24
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, that place is.
1:47:25
SPEAKER_05: We well, I want that.
1:47:26
SPEAKER_05: Honestly, it's one of my favorite restaurants I've ever been to in my life.
1:47:30
SPEAKER_01: The company was fantastic.
1:47:31
SPEAKER_01: Ozzy picked up the bill.
1:47:34
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's right.
1:47:34
SPEAKER_05: From the Cat, right?
1:47:36
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that was killer.
1:47:38
SPEAKER_05: We spent every minute, every dollar of that, because we were getting these pretzels with this duck fat and this shit.
1:47:45
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:47:45
SPEAKER_05: Oh, man.
1:47:46
SPEAKER_05: It was beautiful.
1:47:47
SPEAKER_05: It was so great.
1:47:48
SPEAKER_05: All right, boys.
1:47:50
SPEAKER_05: Less than a month away.
1:47:51
SPEAKER_05: Expo.
1:47:51
SPEAKER_05: What days are you?
1:47:52
SPEAKER_05: You're getting in Wednesday.
1:47:53
SPEAKER_05: You're getting in Thursday morning.
1:47:56
SPEAKER_05: Ralph?
1:47:57
SPEAKER_04: No, I'm getting in Wednesday night late.
1:47:59
SPEAKER_04: But I'm not staying at the main hotel.
1:48:01
SPEAKER_04: I'm staying by the airport in the morning.
1:48:04
SPEAKER_01: This is the weirdest thing.
1:48:05
SPEAKER_01: Like Ozzie just text messaged me.
1:48:08
SPEAKER_01: Oh man, that's weird.
1:48:09
SPEAKER_05: Are we live right now?
1:48:11
unknown: No.
1:48:11
SPEAKER_05: No, that's crazy.
1:48:14
SPEAKER_05: We're not live this whole time, are we?
1:48:16
SPEAKER_05: No, no, no.
1:48:18
SPEAKER_05: I hope not.
1:48:19
SPEAKER_05: No, there's no chat.
1:48:22
SPEAKER_04: Ozzie and I are in a little bit of a competition because we're trying to both of us trying to sell uh our predators.
1:48:28
SPEAKER_04: I don't think he got his sold yet, so we'll see who sells it first.
1:48:32
SPEAKER_04: Alright, Ozzie.
1:48:33
SPEAKER_04: Good luck.
1:48:36
SPEAKER_04: Good luck.
1:48:38
SPEAKER_04: You're good.
1:48:39
SPEAKER_04: That's funny that you try to both sell your predators.
1:48:42
SPEAKER_04: Oh man.
1:48:43
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
1:48:43
SPEAKER_04: The funny thing is, is this person asked the dreaded question at the end.
1:48:47
SPEAKER_04: I always get this when I sell something.
1:48:48
SPEAKER_04: Did you not like it, or are you just moving on to something else?
1:48:53
SPEAKER_01: Oh, did somebody ask you that?
1:48:55
SPEAKER_04: Every I swear if I get that a lot.
1:48:58
SPEAKER_04: If I post, I stopped doing private sale pretty much.
1:49:00
SPEAKER_04: But when you do private sale, I'll always get, hey, do you not like this game?
1:49:04
SPEAKER_04: Is this a bad game?
1:49:05
SPEAKER_04: Like they'll ask me, and I'm like, no, I just you know it's not a bad game.
1:49:09
SPEAKER_01: We have so much room.
1:49:10
SPEAKER_01: You gotta keep them moving.
1:49:11
SPEAKER_01: You gotta keep it moving.
1:49:13
SPEAKER_01: Tell him you're a distro.
1:49:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:49:15
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
1:49:16
SPEAKER_05: I'm making money here.
1:49:18
SPEAKER_05: So no distro wanted.
1:49:20
SPEAKER_05: You didn't offer it to a distro?
1:49:22
SPEAKER_04: As a I did, I did, and he said no.
1:49:26
SPEAKER_04: Wow.
1:49:27
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
1:49:28
SPEAKER_01: Whoa.
1:49:29
SPEAKER_01: That's now that's news, bro.
1:49:31
SPEAKER_01: I know.
1:49:32
SPEAKER_01: He said no.
1:49:33
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think the person you're talking about will take almost anything.
1:49:37
SPEAKER_01: And so that that that's saying a lot.
1:49:40
SPEAKER_01: This is not helping, though.
1:49:42
SPEAKER_02: Thanks, Jamie.
1:49:45
SPEAKER_02: You said no shit.
1:49:46
SPEAKER_04: I was just curious, you know.
1:49:49
SPEAKER_04: I tried that avenue, it didn't work.
1:49:51
SPEAKER_05: I I figured that was your first move, right?
1:49:54
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's always the first move if I if I'm desperate.
1:49:58
SPEAKER_04: Right now I'm a little desperate to get I need the Space because right now I have a game just in the middle of the room.
1:50:04
SPEAKER_04: Nobody likes that.
1:50:05
SPEAKER_04: And I don't want to get rid of the chairs.
1:50:07
SPEAKER_04: I always said if I do that, um there's that that I have a problem.
1:50:10
SPEAKER_04: No.
1:50:11
unknown: Yeah.
1:50:11
SPEAKER_04: And Bon Jovi's coming, right?
1:50:14
SPEAKER_04: In 2032.
1:50:17
SPEAKER_04: Bon Jovi.
1:50:18
SPEAKER_05: Are you on the list for Bon Jovi?
1:50:20
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:50:21
SPEAKER_01: Are you getting a Bon Jovi at uh at the bat?
1:50:24
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
1:50:25
SPEAKER_01: Larry from Starship Fantasy is gonna put one there.
1:50:29
SPEAKER_05: It is a fun shooting game, guys.
1:50:31
SPEAKER_05: You can't you really are gonna.
1:50:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I can't wait.
1:50:34
SPEAKER_04: You really are gonna like it.
1:50:35
SPEAKER_04: And I hope that my legs, the color of my legs, matches the armor on the top of the game.
1:50:40
SPEAKER_04: That would be cool.
1:50:41
SPEAKER_05: You know, that was the day that I was walking through the factory and I told them that that was okay.
1:50:45
SPEAKER_05: So yeah, throw those green.
1:50:46
SPEAKER_05: Oh, really?
1:50:46
SPEAKER_05: Okay, it's fine.
1:50:47
SPEAKER_05: Just throw whatever color you want.
1:50:50
SPEAKER_04: I can't get over the it's really dumb because at home it I don't have any real purpose for a coin mechanism, but I I I really struggle with the one coin mech thing.
1:50:59
SPEAKER_04: It just looks weird.
1:51:01
SPEAKER_01: Oh, on barrels, yeah.
1:51:04
SPEAKER_04: I know for you it really does matter because if one breaks, you always have the other one, and then you can worry about replacing it whenever you, you know, when you get to it.
1:51:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's a big deal.
1:51:12
SPEAKER_04: It just looks weird because every game in existence has two coin mechs, like the modern ones.
1:51:17
SPEAKER_04: No, I don't know of anybody else that does that.
1:51:19
SPEAKER_04: It's kind of weird.
1:51:20
SPEAKER_04: Why do you think they do that?
1:51:21
SPEAKER_04: Is it cost, you think?
1:51:22
SPEAKER_04: They just figure the cut with the mech.
1:51:24
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:51:24
SPEAKER_04: The mech costs a decent amount.
1:51:26
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I don't know the price difference between the two.
1:51:29
SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, I mean, I could it's gotta be like, or or or it could be something like they they got a deal on a bunch of them.
1:51:39
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
1:51:39
SPEAKER_01: And they just decided to stick with it.
1:51:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
1:51:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's kind of it's kind of like their thing now, single coin slot.
1:51:48
SPEAKER_01: Very European.
1:51:49
SPEAKER_04: That's what it right.
1:51:50
SPEAKER_04: It is, it's it is very European.
1:51:51
SPEAKER_04: It's Australian, it's very Australian.
1:51:53
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, there are actually a lot of candy cabs, the candy cab arcade uh games that it's just a single coin slot.
1:52:00
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so it is, yeah.
1:52:01
SPEAKER_04: Even like some of their like that.
1:52:05
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, single coin slot.
1:52:06
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, look at that.
1:52:07
SPEAKER_05: All right, boys, two hours, not bad.
1:52:10
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's good.
1:52:11
SPEAKER_04: It's good.
1:52:12
SPEAKER_04: Kim's gonna be home in a little bit.
1:52:13
SPEAKER_04: I'm good.
1:52:14
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna watch the Yankees Arizona and uh call it a night.
1:52:18
SPEAKER_05: Thank you, boys, so much.
1:52:19
SPEAKER_05: I miss you both.
1:52:20
SPEAKER_05: And uh, I'll see you in less than a month.
1:52:22
SPEAKER_05: Retro Ralph, what are you plugging?
1:52:24
SPEAKER_05: Anything going on?
1:52:26
SPEAKER_04: Just uh I'm behind on everything, but I'm gonna I have a bunch of stuff that that's coming into the house that's gonna be fun to get I'll probably stream both Yukon Yeti and Sonic next week.
1:52:37
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna try to stream them both.
1:52:39
SPEAKER_05: So you want to do Sonic, uh Rudy and Jamie, Rudy and Ralph versus Jamie and John?
1:52:46
SPEAKER_04: We could, but I just feel like you and I need to we never sit down and in and plan.
1:52:51
SPEAKER_04: So then when we go live, it's gonna be a disaster.
1:52:53
SPEAKER_04: No, it's gonna be a disaster.
1:52:55
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna fuck that all up.
1:52:58
SPEAKER_04: Well, if you talk to me out of it, we're not gonna do that.
1:53:00
SPEAKER_05: We're not gonna do that.
1:53:01
SPEAKER_05: We're not gonna do that because I'll fuck that all up.
1:53:04
SPEAKER_05: All right.
1:53:04
SPEAKER_05: Kale, anything to plug, sir?
1:53:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm gonna plug.
1:53:08
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1:53:17
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1:53:19
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1:53:20
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1:53:24
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1:53:26
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1:53:38
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1:53:40
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1:53:44
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1:53:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
1:53:46
SPEAKER_05: I love Jeff Dotson.
1:53:47
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1:53:54
SPEAKER_05: Thank you so much.
1:53:56
SPEAKER_05: Ladies and gentlemen, that's all she wrote.
1:53:58
SPEAKER_05: I just dropped my phone.
1:54:01
SPEAKER_05: I'm a fucking mess.
1:54:04
SPEAKER_01: What a way to end it.
1:54:05
SPEAKER_01: Bye, boys.