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031 - Gettin' around w/ Alex Thomas · Here's to You

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  always late. No!
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  then they'll clean it while we're at the wedding.
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  You feeling this Rhythm and we how you feeling?
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  I feel good. Welcome back to another episode
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  of, here's to you the podcast where we talk to the coolest
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  people in town especially today because it's a happy 420 to all
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  you listeners. Yeah it's not funny guys.
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  Modulations go get a real job make sure you make sure you're
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  on PTO. All right?
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  Exactly. You don't want to call in sick
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  today? No, you don't cause they'll be
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  like okay this bitch is high tomorrow's Friday.
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  They're gonna bust out those cuffs and make you.
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  Do you know what in them? Yeah.
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  I don't know what, you know what?
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  No way to get around all that, what's that bring the brownies
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  to work tomorrow. So that I everyone docs
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  everybody. Yeah, I'm going down.
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  Let's go with that going down. Exactly as what you gotta do.
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  It's like toilet paper in your own house when you sneak out so
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  you don't your parents, don't suspect that you just toilet
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  paper in the entire neighborhood.
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  So you guys are too young to do that, right?
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  You don't know you guys don't do that anymore, right?
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  That's the way I did when I was a kid.
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  I did that. I keep it.
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  Yeah. Did you TP your own?
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  So he didn't look guilty? Because you don't want to be the
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  one. He's like oh I got it.
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  I got here to wasn't me. I swear I didn't do it.
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  My mom caught me while I was tp'ing our own house.
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  Oh I bet you anything it off and everything.
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  Yeah, that's funny. I was just so who would TP their
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  own house? Does see our very special guest
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  for today. We have the great Alex Thomas,
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  welcome to the show. Alex, I didn't know, I didn't
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  know. Official title of cool person in
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  town a list. I got the title of tpr your own.
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  Yes, yes. Everybody's gonna hear this
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  podcast. We're like, hey, UTP watch out.
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  He's gonna hit his own spot. Alex aside from tp'ing, his own
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  house. He does a lot.
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  You're like it. Well, I've heard a lot of
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  things, you're a musician. You You're been in a band lead
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  singer for various bands. You own various businesses,
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  you're a Serial entrepreneur from Kirby's Beer, Store,
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  Lucky's barleycorn's. So used to, yeah, I sold the I
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  sold that. But yeah, the Cotillion.
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  Mmm love and tonic correct. And soon to be Solly and Judes.
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  Correct. And I'm sure that there's a lot
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  more and we've probably already lost count and forgot to mention
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  that some some are working the works.
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  He was Well, sure. You never know, never know.
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  That's true. Yep.
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  No, you are. You're accurate and your
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  depiction of what I've done. Yeah, we hear you've done a lot.
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  Oh, and you like to stick your tongue out.
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  Oh, and do some type of tongue. Yeah, okay.
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  Yeah that's a little bit. Yes.
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  Yes. I do have tongue tricks.
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  Yes, that is accurate. I bet your fiancé loves you.
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  I guess. I plead the fifth.
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  We'll have to give her a call right now.
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  I'm going to ask her. Hey Yeah.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  I'm getting white. You know, she's you wouldn't be
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  the first person that has asked her that because she comes to
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  the concert. So sometimes it's an awkward.
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  I've been doing that. I've been doing that tongue
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  trick since I was in an original band when I was like 18 or 19.
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  I don't know how it started. It just because we were playing
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  like this Guns, N Roses cover and my original band and somehow
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  I was just led to do it because I'd watch Gene Simmons and kiss
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  all my life. Yeah.
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  So I just kind of emulate it. And then, Then it kind of stuck
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  but usually it is an awkward conversation talking about
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  because most of the time people come up.
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  So do the tongue thing and like I bet every girls.
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  Like damn that's usually the dude that asks me though.
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  So my girlfriend weird right now bro.
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  You're gonna steal all the bitches?
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  No, no, I'm all business. Yes.
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  I mean, yeah, we hear. You're definitely all business,
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  but you're definitely, you have your time to have fun, too.
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  Yeah, yeah, sure. I mean, owning, I mean, owning
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  these spots is fun. I mean, that's why I did, you
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  know, I had corporate jobs. I did a, I've done a lot of
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  things through life, but, yeah, this is where I'm happiest.
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  And I like, creating and providing spaces for people and
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  entertaining people. So that's what kind of drives
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  me. Well, thank you for doing that
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  here in this city of Wichita. Well, I Very welcome.
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  I get thanked a lot. I just kind of do what I do.
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  I don't know your go get saved. A lot of businesses from closing
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  like Isis out. We're also like or, you know,
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  you also came in purchase them and try to still bring in and
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  incorporate the things out. The crowd, wanted the original
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  customers that they wanted. Yeah, yeah.
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  That's accurate. I, you know, it's just for
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  Kirby's. I mean that was the first bar I
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  bought. I mean I was Is a customer
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  there. So I kind of knew what everyone
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  wanted to retain but I also have my own ideas.
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  I don't know that. I you know I've heard that
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  before you came in and saved Kirby's, I mean someone else
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  would have bought Kirby's and kept it alive.
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  So I just I think it was I knew what needed to be done and you
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  know I've had Partners I now have a partner in Kirby's that
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  kind of passed the torch to and he's the kind of you know the
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  day-to-day Keeper of the Place. And, and so, that's what it's
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  about, you know, when I bought Kirby's, I didn't ever think I
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  was going to be a bar owner, you know, I never operated a bar.
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  I'd operated my own business, but it was a learning curve.
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  So, yeah, it was interesting a lot has changed.
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  Since then, it's about. That's about 15 years ago.
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  So, yeah. So look at you.
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  That's what go back to us, 15 years ago.
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  Sure, yeah. So, what brought you here to
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  Kansas? Oh, yeah.
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  So I was born in Ipoh. Asia, and my dad was, he worked
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  in veterinary science. So he was a part of a large
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  Indian family that had 14 brothers and sisters.
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  Well, brothers and sisters. Yeah, that is for me to say.
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  That's a lot. That's a lot.
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  And so, you know, he two of his brothers were doctors and they
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  couldn't afford to send hint like, The guys that got the best
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  grades went to medical school and he was the third in line,
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  but the oldest and they sent him to Veterinary College in
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  England. And so he came back, was working
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  at a research facility in Malaysia.
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  But in 1978, when I was two years old Malaysia, the Brits
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  basically you know still have possession of those colonies,
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  Malaysia and India and in 78 they laughed and Turned over
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  control to the native malays, but what that created was kind
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  of a situation, he was Indian. So he was getting passed over
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  for promotions and he decided to follow his brothers to America
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  to Chase the American dream and he opened up a vet clinic in
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  Topeka. That's where we ended up.
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  Yeah. Nice.
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  Yeah, because his brothers were there.
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  So, yeah. So I grew up in Topeka and then
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  went to college at Southwestern, Okay, and then, move up to
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  Wichita to work a software job and all this time from College
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  on, I was playing in a band called.
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  Oh, Phil and oh, Phil played a lot at Kirby's, beer store and
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  we played all around we toured around.
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  So that's how I got kind of involved with Kirby's.
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  It was like our home base. Yeah.
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  And then when I moved up to Wichita to work, another
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  software job, then I started. I bought a house near Kirby's
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  and I just would go there all the time.
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  I knew the only, Her really well.
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  He came to my wedding, you know, you came to visit me when I was
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  sick in the hospital and went to visit him when he was sick in
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  the hospital and then he passed away suddenly at Harry's
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  actually. Yeah he his second favorite
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  place to go was Harry's and he would always go there and have a
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  drink after he was done with his shift at Kirby's.
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  And he one day he ordered a drink and then he turned around
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  and he was like slumped over he was dead.
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  So yeah so then it was a curb Eames was kind of thrown into
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  flux and no one knew what was happening.
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  Sister kind of negotiated the sale and after long negotiation,
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  I ended up with it so and at the time I was doing like contract
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  graphic design, web design and I was like just I was going like
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  this was going to just be an investment but then the bar life
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  kind of took over. Yeah.
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  Yeah. And now dang.
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  Yeah. So like from so how about you
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  though before we continue back into like work stuff like, tell
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  us how many siblings Things. Do you have two brothers and a
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  sister? And they're all older.
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  I was an accident. Okay.
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  My parents were quite a bit older and like, my mom had me
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  when she was 39. So I was definitely like a UPS,
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  so not so, because it's so my brother.
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  Apparently they weren't practicing the tried and true
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  method of pulling out. Really.
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  Not a tried-and-true kids out there, listen to this podcast,
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  don't that's not a good method. It's not a good method and we
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  can always practice safe sex. Condoms best.
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  Yeah, but yeah, I know. So I have two brothers and
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  sisters. So do our they business owners
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  have like, did you kind of grow up in the sense that you were
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  going to lean towards sex? Well, so my dad owned operated,
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  his old his own clinic. So I got to kind of be around
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  all the boys worked in the clinic.
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  You know. I mean I clean dog and I don't
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  know. Yeah, I cleaned kennels, you
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  know? No, with newspaper mind, you
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  know, kennels with piss and shit.
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  Just soaking them in my dad had no problems telling me to go in
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  and clean that stuff up and I can I can smell it to this day.
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  I don't know if you've ever smell piss and shit.
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  Soaked newspaper with like dog hair combined and it's a
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  wonderful smell like urge you all to maybe go out and
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  experience it for yourself, but that's what I did that's going
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  to sell. Yeah, pretty fast now.
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  So that's what I did can do with that.
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  I'm at my dad was not bashful to put us to work.
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  So yeah, we all worked in the clinics but I also got to seem
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  like pay bills and run like, you know, the front side customer
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  stuff and, you know, so I grew up around that, you know, I saw
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  him carry a briefcase to work with a checkbook for the
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  business and I still use he, you know, he's passed away.
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  I've got that same briefcase that I remember.
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  And I used it for a couple Cotillion, you know, drops where
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  we were paying artist and you had to go withdraw cash, I would
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  do the same thing. I still use the same.
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  Most of the bars are still use the same checkbook, Ledger that
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  he had, which is the 3-ring. You know, three panel check
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  thing that I always remember him writing checks on so so yeah.
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  I mean I kind of came up with that but my brother is a doctor.
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  My sister I went to law school but she's an insurance agent.
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  My other brother is a retired, homicide detective from
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  Lawrence. Wow so we all kind of just went
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  you're all very eclectic. Yeah absolutely yeah yeah, Asian
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  Asian thing. Oh yeah, you know as you're not
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  a doctor you're not alone. Horn engineer engineer.
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  That's the thing. And I was, I was a software
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  engineer. So like, you know, it was, that
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  was the thing. We are dad was not down with
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  bees and and he was, he pushed education, we none of us had,
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  you know, a college fund. We had to go on Pell Grants.
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  We were, you know, the thing is, he was well-to-do in Malaysia
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  but we were, you know, lower middle class in America.
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  And so, we were struggling. I'm definitely like the
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  Immigrant thing. Oh yeah, yeah, it's just Asian
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  like No, yeah, exactly. Yeah. 100%.
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  Yeah, every one of them want a better life for the kids and
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  they knew that it was through education that they were going
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  to get that. So, you know, they were, I
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  remember looking at photos from when they were in Malaysia and,
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  I mean, they were, you know, they were all the socialite
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  parties, he dropped sports cars. My mom didn't work, she was a
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  housewife, but, when we came to America, she worked at Dunkin
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  Donuts that she worked at Hallmark cards.
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  And, you know, he was struggling to run a business because the
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  currency here is a Different. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  It was a huge loss. You know, I'm terms of.
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  So yeah, we, you know, we got a different type of come up and I
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  guess for me, it was just a combination of being around my
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  dad and just how I went to college, I went to a smaller
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  College, which gave me more opportunities to kind of jump in
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  charge of departments and stuff like that when I was younger.
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  And yeah, and I played in a band and I was the kind of the pseudo
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  manager of That band. So I had to figure that stuff
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  out and that's like business that's networking.
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  So all of that led, you know all that networking especially
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  playing in a local band and in the Wichita scene just knowing
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  everybody and being a popular band at the time.
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  It kind of just built that business Network.
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  Yeah. Congrats, look at you.
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  Probably it's a little like it. I would say you're in a pretty
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  popular band now. Oh yeah.
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  Oh yeah. Have you seen monterey jack?
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  Have, you know, you had, yeah. Are we play?
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  So I can't I mean we're talking dates.
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  I mean for everyone in the room, the Saturday, we played a break.
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  Yeah, we're we time travel. Yes.
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  Yes. But whenever you hear this we're
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  probably playing on a Saturday somewhere.
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  I'm not gonna say the specific day carry the one.
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  Take it away and I Well, dusty over here is in entertainment to
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  so that's probably why. Yeah, and I know I was noticing
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  is soundboard stuff and all the yeah, yeah, he's into it.
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  He's our, he's our A1 literally without him.
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  We were know what to do. One day, he was like, you guys
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  could try without me. I just give you guys my
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  soundboard. Not like, I'm not touching that.
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  I know how to plug in the mics. That's all I know.
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  To know Dusty that's why you're here.
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  Now I do still play in a band so it's fun Monterey Jack it's
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  cover ban and we play 80s 90s and current music just rocked
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  up, you know. Yeah I've been in that band
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  from, you know my gosh you guys are making me feel real old.
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  Okay, I've been in that band for about twelve, twelve years and
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  wow, any Hue. Yeah any original like me like
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  band/musician that is plays an original music.
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  And you know the one thing that you kind of turn your nose up a
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  lot of people. A lot of musicians do is playing
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  in a cover band, you know. Yeah.
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  And so these guys are comprised of old local musicians that
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  played in local, you know, original bands, back in the 90s
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  80s and 90s. But, you know, they got to a
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  point in their life where they have careers, but they still
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  love to play, this is somewhat entertain and the least,
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  dramatic way to do it is play covers because you're not
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  fighting about, like, direction of the band.
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  Creativity is like this. Where the song goes, there's a
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  road map. Someone else is saying it, and
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  people liked it just executes and, you know, it's just fun.
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  It's fun to go out and we just happen to be the right combo,
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  the kind of transcends. Like I will say a played a I
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  played in front of you know, several thousand people before
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  you know, I mean, when I was in an original band and playing the
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  Brickyard makes it feel like you're playing a real like
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  concert, you know, because people are into it, it doesn't
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  matter, you're playing covers so.
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  But when they first approached me, I kind of Suck my nose up at
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  it, you know when they turn they ended up kind of reading that on
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  me during the, you know, during the tryouts.
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  Yeah. And so they passed me over for
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  this other guy and I was super bummed.
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  I was like, oh my, but I was just wrapping my head around
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  being in this cover band. Yeah.
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  And that guy didn't work out and so then they came back to me and
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  the rest is history. I guess.
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  Yeah, that's just good that, you know, people have their own
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  lives and like kids and like, you know, the jobs and
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  everything. And it's nice that you still do
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  this like not a lot of people like like if you play a sport
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  you know you play a sport for like how many years and then
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  you're like I'm so busy. I don't have time to deal with
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  but you make time to do what you love to do.
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  Yeah I think so there was only, you know, somewhere, I'm
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  divorced now and I'm engaged again.
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  But somewhere along when I was we were getting ready to start a
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  family because I've got two kids, you know, I kind of put it
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  in my mind that I just need to let go of music.
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  And so there was a block there. Couple of years that I didn't
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  play at all and I realized I really missed it and we would
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  get together for the original bands where unions the band was
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  called, oh, Phil. And we used to get like, even
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  after we stopped playing on the regular, we would get together
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  once a year to play, but that wasn't really enough.
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  So being in the cover band made me realize, I'm just always
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  going to have to have that as a part of my life, you know.
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  Yeah. There's a certain, you know,
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  certain aspect of entertainment that I just can't let go of.
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  I just, I really love being on stage and entertaining people.
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  No, yeah yeah. And that's the past, you know, I
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  can't, I can't be, I can't practice like three times a week
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  anymore and write songs and try to record an album.
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  I just I just don't have time for that.
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  So being a cover band, you know, we get paid.
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  Yeah. And we have a great time and we
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  entertain people. So yeah.
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  And a lot of that then stems to like when you decide to move out
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  of your 9 to 5 job. Mmm, moving into a 24/7 one.
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  Your phone is always ringing. Well, I had a kind of had an
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  interesting trajectory on that because yeah, you know, in the
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  software world, we got bought out and, you know, several times
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  and laid off. And, you know, that's when I
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  first started, go out on my own and, you know, she really had to
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  build my own book of business, with graphic design, web design,
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  digital content, creation, video, stuff like that.
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  It changed throughout the years I used to design Splurge
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  magazine and she you know, photos for it.
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  Did this magazine called High School, Sports magazine, which
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  became vipe and I used to design that and she photos for that,
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  you know? And then I started shooting
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  video for VMware out in California and so it just took
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  me on and at some point you know, then I bought Kirby's and
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  then I was like, this is a lie, you know?
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  I mean, I'm just like I'm working all the time and so I
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  took a job back with the software folks, you know, so I
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  went from like being My Own Boss to going back to a nine-to-five.
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  And boy, let me tell you that second time, around that
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  convinced me. I was like, yeah.
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  You're like no, no, I can't do it.
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  What ya see? Oh, yeah.
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  I cannot drink here, right? I work best when I'm under the
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  influence. It was.
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  Yeah. It was a lot of like just you
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  know they didn't really want to hear my when you run your own
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  business, you control your own destiny.
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  Oh yeah. So you know Is there's that
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  there's that level of it, but other than that, it just it was
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  just, you know, I was like, workplace culture is different
• 21:19
  everywhere. I'm sure some cultures.
• 21:20
  It's okay to be challenged in to challenge your boss.
• 21:24
  Who do that sort of thing, some cultures?
• 21:26
  It's like, no, you can't do that.
• 21:28
  What do you mean you're going to say?
• 21:29
  No to this? I would say this was a fairly
• 21:31
  Progressive culture. I don't want to, I don't want
• 21:33
  to, I would say that this software company they were,
• 21:35
  there was small, it wasn't very corporate corporate.
• 21:38
  But I mean, in terms of the, you know, the motive, Thinking in
• 21:43
  taking risks, I guess that's where my specialty is.
• 21:48
  If you want to ask me. I'm a risky person like, yeah,
• 21:52
  that's I thrive on taking risks. Yeah.
• 21:54
  And you know, kind of shoving all in if you will.
• 21:57
  So a lot of companies just not are not like that.
• 22:00
  So I, you know, I was thinking like four steps ahead of like,
• 22:03
  you know, growth where they're really just not prepared to
• 22:06
  listen to, someone complain about that.
• 22:08
  So I got laid off, you know? And I always think that's funny
• 22:11
  because Like they laid me off the second time around and I was
• 22:15
  like all right well I guess you know I was just buying Lucky's
• 22:18
  at the time. I was just find the Lucky's
• 22:19
  building at the time actually and I just closed on Lucky's the
• 22:23
  building, I had the business in September of that year that I
• 22:25
  got laid off and they high hosted, the company Christmas
• 22:29
  party at Lucky's, then they laid me off a week later, but is
• 22:34
  likely a day after I'd close on the door.
• 22:37
  Oh, yeah. But I just thought it was like,
• 22:39
  that's funny. You know, that's what you said.
• 22:42
  It was a day of what I closed on the building.
• 22:44
  So, you know, the bank of course, at pull credit and they
• 22:46
  thought it was fully important. So let's sign the mortgage and
• 22:49
  then they leave me also. Thank God for that.
• 22:51
  Uh-huh. Yeah, you got lucky but then I
• 22:53
  was, I was in again, you know, I'd kind of given up my book of
• 22:56
  business and I had to figure out how I was going to make it work.
• 22:59
  So yeah, just kind of push forward and and as a result you
• 23:03
  know, then came barleycorn's shortly after that.
• 23:06
  And I own barleycorn's for five years with a couple couple guys
• 23:12
  As and we renovated, it and brought some great acts there
• 23:15
  and then we got, you know, the Cotillion and then I sold
• 23:19
  barleycorn's and we started love and tonic and then covid did
• 23:26
  open around that time. We opened in October of 2019 and
• 23:31
  were shut down by March of 2020. Yeah, that's rough one.
• 23:34
  It was. Yeah, well I'm really glad that
• 23:37
  you guys still have lava and tonic to though, because now
• 23:39
  it's like people get to go back. And experiencing that you guys
• 23:43
  didn't decide to I mean that covid didn't shut you guys down.
• 23:46
  Yeah, actually no, yeah, it did for a chunk and then when they
• 23:50
  let us do to go actually it worked out really well with love
• 23:54
  and tonic because you know, there were just we did a good to
• 23:58
  go presentation. Like we had cute little bottles
• 24:00
  and we packed Ziplocs full of like accoutrement that you can
• 24:03
  put on your drink and a lot of cut fruit drinks are hella
• 24:06
  strong. Yeah, they are it carries drink.
• 24:08
  Oh yeah. Oh yeah, don't mess around but
• 24:11
  like people were Sir, Harry's drinks.
• 24:13
  It was like free advertising because people were like,
• 24:15
  everyone was trapped at home and they were, you know, like
• 24:18
  shooting in their backyard with like, by the pool with a lob and
• 24:21
  tonic drink, and they were like tagging us, so that really
• 24:25
  helped us survive. And then we open back up, people
• 24:28
  appreciated the environment, it's an, it's an Escapist
• 24:31
  environment. So, yeah, for sure.
• 24:35
  And so then lava and tonic and then is that, where you're at
• 24:39
  now to Sally and Jude? Yeah, going to tell us a little
• 24:41
  bit. About that about solving and
• 24:43
  Judes. Let me take a little drink here,
• 24:45
  okay? Hmm, yeah.
• 24:48
  So, you know, oddly enough, I throughout the years I've been
• 24:55
  experienced experimenting with like little pop-up events south
• 24:58
  of the arena with a business partner or a guy, I know named
• 25:02
  Bruce Rowley, who's actually involved in this space that
• 25:07
  we're in and he has RSM Hitting and I just hit him up.
• 25:13
  I was like man these Arena events.
• 25:14
  Why don't we do a little pop-up bar outside RSM, which was it's
• 25:18
  just right around the corner right across from the arena.
• 25:21
  And so we did all the proper paperwork and I we would set up
• 25:24
  a bar outside with patio furniture from one of his
• 25:28
  clients I think Wichita Furniture.
• 25:31
  You know, it was kind of a cross branded deal and people would
• 25:34
  walk up to the concert and drink a couple beers and you know I
• 25:38
  saw that it was like this could work from the south because from
• 25:41
  the north It's different, you know, from the north of the
• 25:43
  Arena. People don't really walk up from
• 25:45
  parking. They've already kind of walked
• 25:47
  through old town and had a drink and maybe had dinner, they're
• 25:49
  going directly to the concert. Yeah, from the south, there's a
• 25:53
  lot more people walking up from parking.
• 25:55
  So I I did a couple of those and then when the NCAA had their
• 26:01
  tournament, we rented out the parking lot.
• 26:03
  That is actually the Sully and Judah parking lot, right next to
• 26:06
  the song juice right now. And we did a big thing called
• 26:09
  bracket bash. And it was just a D like a DJ
• 26:13
  party with a with beer and games and stuff like that, and it
• 26:16
  crushed. So I kind of knew that, you
• 26:19
  know, I wanted to do something in this area and it was kind of
• 26:22
  actually one of love and tonics, first locations was on Commerce.
• 26:25
  Like, when we well, we weren't open there, but we actually had
• 26:28
  architectural drawings and we were ready to go in that space,
• 26:31
  But then we found the other space.
• 26:33
  So I almost thought about putting something south of the
• 26:35
  arena. And so Bruce had some space
• 26:39
  available and and kind of approached Myself and I I said,
• 26:44
  well, I can't do it alone. At this point.
• 26:45
  I've got a lot on my plate, so I hit up the guy.
• 26:49
  I sold. Barleycorn's do okay.
• 26:51
  Justin Brown? Who owns Shamrock?
• 26:54
  Jerry's Snug Harbor and barleycorn's, I think that's it.
• 27:00
  And yeah, and I was like, hey, let's go quarterback this.
• 27:03
  You know, and so that's what we're both in that along with
• 27:06
  Bruce and a partners and partners from Love and tonic.
• 27:09
  And the idea was Like I'd been to a couple East Coast, sandwich
• 27:14
  shops, and I kind of wanted to do kind of a deli style, maybe
• 27:17
  not true, Delhi, but just serving some sandwiches and some
• 27:22
  cocktails and keep more like lunch and dinner hours than
• 27:26
  late-night bar hours. So, that's what it's going to
• 27:29
  be. It's named after my my son's
• 27:31
  nickname and the other Justin son's nickname.
• 27:35
  My, my son's name is Solomon, and his son's name is Judah, so
• 27:39
  we call them, you know, I call my son saw Lee and calls him.
• 27:41
  Jude so falling Jude's, that's okay.
• 27:44
  Yeah, that's the deal. So, and it is, it's by far been
• 27:49
  one of the harder things I've had to work on.
• 27:52
  Is just a building at a kitchen, is extra complex.
• 27:55
  So is this the first time that you're building out a kitchen?
• 27:58
  Yeah. Okay.
• 27:59
  But love and tonic also serves apps and stuff like.
• 28:01
  Yeah. But that doesn't really require
• 28:05
  like because we didn't have like flag grills and stuff like that.
• 28:08
  So it is it is more like Prep. We don't have to prep any of
• 28:13
  that food there. It's like you know we would it
• 28:15
  put it in a pizza maker and we have like all the apps are dry
• 28:19
  goods that we put together. Just like like finger food.
• 28:22
  Yeah. Like egg rolls.
• 28:23
  We do it in an air fryer. We don't do it in a real frog.
• 28:26
  Yeah, Greece from healthy. Yeah.
• 28:28
  Actually I love my foot there. Let's talk about air fryers.
• 28:31
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 28:31
  Talk about air fryer. I love an airfryer everyone
• 28:34
  suggests. I don't know.
• 28:36
  Actually I just Phillips something rather I don't know.
• 28:38
  Yeah just anyone will work Emily.
• 28:40
  Bought me an airfryer which I haven't Returned yet because
• 28:42
  it's too small. Oh yeah you gotta get the
• 28:45
  bigger. Sorry about the airfryer
• 28:46
  tangent. Yes no no that's good.
• 28:50
  I like the are fires as all-in-one.
• 28:51
  All-in-one you know like you do will make a coffee too.
• 29:02
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• 29:03
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• 29:08
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• 29:10
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• 29:13
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• 29:14
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• 29:24
  Okay, let's get back to the show.
• 29:27
  So your, your restaurant is going to be a restaurant, right?
• 29:30
  I mean, yeah, it's yeah. So, I think I saw it too as well
• 29:33
  because it's like, on the corner.
• 29:35
  There's literally right in front of the interest.
• 29:37
  Oh yeah, right. And when I remember, I drove by
• 29:40
  because my company were about To move a week here on Commerce
• 29:43
  Street. Oh, yeah.
• 29:44
  And then I saw that thing I saw they were, like, remodeled, like
• 29:46
  doing something there and I was like, I was like, I wonder what
• 29:50
  they're doing and then my manager told me, my boss told
• 29:54
  me. He's like, yeah, there.
• 29:55
  I think they were bringing a kitchen there.
• 29:56
  I was like, that's a smart as fucking idea ever.
• 29:59
  Well, I think hopefully hope you're right.
• 30:05
  Yes, walk to the fucking yes. And there's a lot of people
• 30:09
  officing down there too. So I mean that's what you know,
• 30:11
  really. I come over there to Is Well I'm
• 30:13
  sure. Yeah come on over.
• 30:17
  It's a beautiful bar. We built and the bar is built
• 30:21
  that. Like we're going through all the
• 30:23
  code and everything City permitting and all that right
• 30:26
  now building out the kitchen. So it's all that's very compl,
• 30:28
  the fun stuff. That's really a lot of fun.
• 30:30
  So what can we expect soluble? That's the great question that I
• 30:34
  get asked that question almost daily and I would love, I would
• 30:37
  love to say a definitive date. However, I've learned that I
• 30:41
  shouldn't But I will say that I hope to be open sometime in May.
• 30:46
  I think that would be fairly aggressive though, so that's
• 30:50
  what we can expect it this year. Oh, you has to otherwise, I will
• 30:53
  disappear, I'll be in. Mexico.
• 30:56
  The all my bank accounts and I'll run away with you, we're
• 31:01
  not open this year. Yeah, well, open a restaurant
• 31:03
  down in Mexico. I'll be serving microwave
• 31:06
  notches if I have to. Yeah, I mean, hey, I think well
• 31:09
  in Mexico. I was selfish.
• 31:11
  I worked so far. Wait, what am I saying?
• 31:14
  Airfryer notches there. Yeah.
• 31:17
  What was I thinking? We're gonna be like, oh shit.
• 31:22
  These are healthy. Yeah, that's great.
• 31:27
  Depending on where you're at you're probably going to blow
• 31:29
  out some circuits. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 31:31
  Exactly. You just climb up one of those
• 31:33
  circuits and start pulling it together, stealing electricity
• 31:37
  from the next town over Absolutely.
• 31:44
  So we've kind of gone through your career Journey a little bit
• 31:46
  more and now just kind of gone through where you're at right
• 31:51
  now and you shared a little bit about your first purchase
• 31:55
  experience to again a great friend of yours that we that
• 31:59
  passed away. Can you tell us like a little
• 32:02
  bit about like your first purchase experience to your
• 32:06
  you're now your most current one like what were the nerves with
• 32:09
  that? Like what was that experience?
• 32:11
  Like as you transitioning to like, that was my first one and
• 32:14
  now I'm here. I'm more seasoned.
• 32:16
  Oh yeah. Or how do you, you know, like
• 32:19
  well, it's walk us through that it's different because, you
• 32:22
  know, Kirby's and Lucky's were existing businesses.
• 32:26
  Barleycorn's was too, but we were, you know, not really
• 32:30
  reliant on the barleycorn's current like clientele, we knew
• 32:36
  that That we if we're going to actually pay money for that
• 32:39
  thing that we needed to change something, you know, that we
• 32:42
  needed to attract more people and it needed to be not a dive
• 32:45
  bar downtown, but a music hall, you know what I mean?
• 32:48
  And not be so cliquey and do a lot more.
• 32:51
  And, and so, that was different than the last two weeks.
• 32:56
  Last three experiences. I've had, I mean, buying the
• 32:59
  Cotillion by far was like, the most intimidating one.
• 33:02
  No, that's huge. Yeah.
• 33:03
  And there was a lot going on in my life at that time, you know?
• 33:06
  Newly divorced and and all. When did you buy the Cotillion
• 33:09
  and 2018-2019? Yeah, it's so pretty.
• 33:12
  That's still new. Yeah, look at you.
• 33:14
  You're so killing it. Yeah, he's doing okay.
• 33:17
  Yeah, yeah. And so, you know, that was a,
• 33:19
  that was definitely an interesting experience.
• 33:22
  But I mean, you know, I'm learning things and I know.
• 33:26
  Yeah. So, you know, this experience of
• 33:28
  opening up selling and Jews is distinctly different.
• 33:30
  Everything that I've gone through, has been distinctly
• 33:32
  different. I deal with different.
• 33:33
  I don't have the same partners and every single Deal.
• 33:36
  So I have several different. The only business I own a
• 33:39
  hundred percent by myself is Lucky's everything else that I
• 33:42
  do has business partners. I mean you just can't do things
• 33:45
  a lot. I just you know you can't and if
• 33:47
  you think you can, you're wrong. I mean I just need you really
• 33:51
  yeah. Yeah.
• 33:52
  I mean, I need other people's input.
• 33:54
  You have to be able to work. So like, you know, when people
• 33:56
  are like thinking that lava and tonic was one person's Vision.
• 34:00
  It was, it was, it was a collaboration, but I needed the
• 34:03
  creative minds at my business partners to lead that and I Both
• 34:06
  contribute to it, you know. Yeah and same thing here with
• 34:10
  Sully and Jude's, you know, it's multiple people coming together
• 34:13
  and collaborating to create something.
• 34:14
  So and just knowing when to, you know, when your voice is being,
• 34:21
  when it needs to be heard or when something is subjective and
• 34:24
  you're wasting time by just saying, well I think yeah
• 34:27
  because not everyone that comes to my business is you know going
• 34:32
  to think like me and if I book music that I only like no one
• 34:35
  would come to the shows. Yeah, you know what I mean?
• 34:36
  So I mean that you have to think of it in a greater bigger scheme
• 34:41
  and and I hear a lot of that conversation, you know, why
• 34:43
  don't you bring more XYZ to the Cotillion?
• 34:47
  It's like, well, why don't you show up and bring two thousand
• 34:51
  of your friends? I have no problem booking,
• 34:55
  whatever band you say that needs to be playing Wichita, just show
• 34:58
  me 2,000. People will pay a ticket to be
• 35:00
  the. Yeah, yeah.
• 35:00
  Hey, I'm not mad about the band's you bring to the
• 35:03
  Cotillion, I'm very happy with them.
• 35:04
  But yeah, I know I, you know, there's some people that You
• 35:06
  know, there are you should do next, you should do a Kpop band.
• 35:10
  Oh, we are probably too small for a Kpop band, but I have to
• 35:14
  go to prom. We probably need to get away
• 35:17
  assembly. That's the clock.
• 35:18
  There was a Kpop band. Was it called?
• 35:21
  Did a concert in Lawrence? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 35:25
  I don't doubt. I'm just saying.
• 35:26
  I think we, you know, I would love to have a large fan base.
• 35:29
  That's a large. Fanbase.
• 35:31
  Lot of kids. Yeah, I like, oh yeah.
• 35:37
  But yes you know guys I know you guys want to see your bias but
• 35:42
  got a thousand friends you going to bring?
• 35:44
  Yeah, yeah yeah. It probably hit the fire code
• 35:50
  though, issue. That's that's I was so our last
• 35:52
  guest was around Kpop and they have the K-pop K-pop K-pop stop
• 35:58
  and Anime sort, okay. And she was sharing with us how
• 36:02
  like, you know, at first they went through a modest experience
• 36:05
  in Wasn't that they brought an actual van.
• 36:07
  It was just kind of bringing fans together and doing an event
• 36:11
  where you're basically celebrating the fact that you
• 36:14
  love this band, right? And so at first, they did
• 36:18
  something small a little bit modest, right?
• 36:20
  They were like 200 and they're like, they sold out so quick.
• 36:22
  We were supposed to do like more ads for them to oh wow before we
• 36:26
  could even get the first sat out.
• 36:28
  Yeah, it was so nice. Yeah, people love it.
• 36:30
  Yeah. So I don't doubt it but still
• 36:33
  like going back to kind of your Your various, you know, from
• 36:40
  your first purchase to know your latest one.
• 36:42
  I noticed you were mentioning a lot about like, your business
• 36:45
  partner, sure. And having a group of various
• 36:48
  different business partners in different businesses businesses
• 36:51
  to like, for the aspiring entrepreneur.
• 36:54
  Like what would you say on how to figure out how to get that?
• 36:59
  Oh, well, for an aspiring entrepreneur, I would say first
• 37:03
  things first. Is that it, you know, I always
• 37:06
  say like going to business with your friends is a difficult
• 37:08
  thing and it is and it will affect some friendships, you
• 37:11
  know, it can affect some friendships and your best bet is
• 37:15
  to make sure you line out everything in what's called an
• 37:18
  operating agreement. And that is just basically all
• 37:21
  the details on how the business is going to run, you know, who's
• 37:24
  going to get paid. What, what's going to happen if
• 37:26
  you want to leave, what's going to happen if you know what I
• 37:28
  mean and it's all lined out in legal documents.
• 37:30
  So none of that is like you know a sore point and that's
• 37:33
  something I have gotten better with you know because I've You
• 37:36
  know, I went into when I bought Kirby's, I bought it with a
• 37:39
  friend that was a the sax player in my first band.
• 37:42
  And, you know, we had some rough years when he was upset about
• 37:46
  like the his return on it, you know.
• 37:48
  So I've been totally bought him out and then our friendship
• 37:51
  healed but even in my web design business, I was working with a
• 37:54
  friend and yeah, you know, is this, when you're working with
• 37:56
  your friend, it's going to, you're going to have some hard
• 37:59
  time. So you just have to figure it
• 38:01
  out, but your best bet is to line everything out as much as
• 38:04
  you can in legal documents. Yeah.
• 38:07
  So and then, in terms of finding the right partner, you know, you
• 38:12
  just have to observe how they are and, you know, you're
• 38:17
  probably going to want to make sure you believe in their ethics
• 38:20
  that you have the same moral code.
• 38:22
  You know, those kind of things and that they have some business
• 38:24
  Acumen, you know, and you know that they know what they're
• 38:28
  getting into because I'll tell you everyone wants to own a bar
• 38:30
  but they you know I would tell them if you're really trying to
• 38:33
  make money, I would just put it into real estate, you know.
• 38:35
  I would just It'd make a more, you know, safe investment.
• 38:38
  But that's a lot of that's not really what?
• 38:41
  It's a lot of these folks want to do.
• 38:42
  They want to do something exciting?
• 38:43
  They want to create something they want to, you know?
• 38:46
  It's, there's a certain amount of, you know, Pride, you take in
• 38:50
  creating something like that that people attend and talk
• 38:52
  well, about, you know, like you can, there's it's hard to put a
• 38:56
  dollar value on that, you know, like saying someone, that's my
• 38:59
  favorite place to go. I loved, I loved that place and
• 39:02
  you get a five star review, instead of someone complaining.
• 39:04
  It's like, okay good. We did good.
• 39:06
  People are appreciating this Vision we had so but yeah, it's
• 39:11
  about that finding, you know, a good person and if you were if
• 39:15
  they're your friend, make sure to line out as many details as
• 39:18
  possible. Yeah.
• 39:20
  How did you go about with finding your business partners
• 39:24
  various various ways with Kirby's?
• 39:29
  The guy that I just like a couple years ago, sold 49
• 39:33
  percent to, he was One of the original guys that was up
• 39:38
  against me to buy it in the first place and I just gotten to
• 39:40
  know him over the years. And I knew he had a passion and
• 39:42
  a love for the place. We don't always see eye to eye
• 39:45
  on how to run the business but I'm that's another one of those
• 39:48
  situations just like I can't, you know, I have to trust or let
• 39:51
  him learn his own way on how he's going to run it, you know,
• 39:55
  so I can't be blocking it if I'm not actually putting time to it.
• 39:59
  So he's the one that's earned him and his wife had put a lot
• 40:02
  of time and energy into the space.
• 40:03
  I can't sit there and, and, you know, Swoop in and say, no, you
• 40:08
  know, it's I've got to let him go and he's made some great
• 40:12
  calls and he's made some, you know, he's done some great
• 40:14
  things with that space. And you know, I've also advised
• 40:17
  him on things and I think that's, that's a good
• 40:20
  partnership, you know, like knowing when like I said knowing
• 40:24
  when to have a battle and when not to and when to appreciate
• 40:27
  someone else's opinion is as valid as yours.
• 40:29
  Yes. Oh, so you know with you having
• 40:31
  a business and everything like you do all this process to have
• 40:34
  someone trust and everything like Like that.
• 40:37
  Like how do you have you ever experienced like a bad?
• 40:40
  Like a bad relationship or a bad business or anything like that?
• 40:44
  Sure. Yeah.
• 40:45
  I mean, I can't go into details but anyone, but well, it's hard
• 40:52
  to share specifics, but I think you kind of know it.
• 40:55
  You know, what are signs that you should break up?
• 41:01
  It's much like a, you know, it's much like a regular relationship
• 41:04
  if the person that doesn't respect you, And communicate
• 41:06
  with you is cheating on you with other businesses that's deep out
• 41:13
  of that cuts, you know what I mean?
• 41:14
  I mean if they're a conflicts like that then or you know, when
• 41:19
  you look at your output of time in working the business and it
• 41:25
  is way out of whack to where your equal business partner is,
• 41:29
  you know, then something needs to be done.
• 41:31
  That's not a, that's not a tenable situation for anybody
• 41:36
  and that goes for a relationship or business relationship or
• 41:38
  being in a band. I mean, it's all human
• 41:40
  interaction, right? You got to be respectful, you
• 41:43
  know, mutually have an understanding about how things
• 41:45
  should go. So when that starts to fall
• 41:47
  apart then you know, you should probably talk therapy.
• 41:49
  Yeah. Get a lawyer or maybe you should
• 41:57
  bring in a third business partner.
• 42:01
  Open it up. We need to open up this
• 42:03
  relationship. Everybody loved a threesome.
• 42:06
  Everyone loves the bring some more money to the table, and
• 42:09
  then it makes everything better. We another body to the bed.
• 42:12
  Make certain. No, that's not true.
• 42:16
  That's where that's where relationships and businesses may
• 42:18
  be different. I'm not a licensed therapist.
• 42:23
  Yeah, we're yeah, we just met, we're just traumatized.
• 42:30
  So we are getting ready to walk. It be getting ready to take you
• 42:34
  on a break, so that we can prepare.
• 42:36
  Prepare your drink because you guys know huge part of the
• 42:39
  podcast. Is that we like to bring some
• 42:42
  alcohol into the mix. So before we get into that,
• 42:46
  though, what song is playing? Is that what I'm hearing?
• 42:58
  I believe you are correct. It's the same beat, but it's a
• 43:00
  different lyrics. Okay, damn, it's like my I told
• 43:03
  you guys my headphones are sucking.
• 43:06
  You know what? Yeah, let's go ahead and go to
• 43:07
  break. We'll move some stuff around to
• 43:09
  follow up on next question. Very good.
• 43:54
  We are back from our little break.
• 43:58
  Got some drinks made this. Here's to you the podcast
• 44:02
  segment number two with our special guest and at some very
• 44:10
  good drinks here. Yes guys.
• 44:13
  I made you know, as always know, I always look at drink or I
• 44:15
  guess to make him feel special and I just want them get a
• 44:18
  little drunk, you know, just a little just a little Maybe, I
• 44:22
  mean if you want a shot of whiskey we can.
• 44:24
  Okay, let's do it. Let's do you have any portable.
• 44:32
  You can tell us more about this ring so just pour some in here.
• 44:37
  Just whatever. Yeah so this not shy so this
• 44:42
  drink how you name? It bear a Cuda bear a good
• 44:48
  exactly. So basically it It's just
• 44:52
  whiskey. So the ingredients is basically
• 44:56
  seven to ten mint leaves point. 75 ounces of Honey, .75 of lemon
• 45:02
  juice and 1.5 ounces of whiskey. And then you add some ice, shake
• 45:08
  it. And then after that, strain it
• 45:10
  over some chilled eyes glass and garnish with mint.
• 45:15
  And Alex loves it. I love it because he wants to
• 45:21
  take a shot with you, Alex, sure?
• 45:26
  Yeah. All right, whiskey with you as
• 45:30
  well. You got an old-fashioned whiskey
• 45:32
  over there. I'll do a regular shot in that
• 45:38
  and then I'll sip on this because it still has some of the
• 45:40
  modeling and goodness in it. Yes.
• 45:45
  All right. Is where I have the cups.
• 45:55
  Yeah, I don't know where to go so I could I don't, I lied.
• 45:59
  I don't have any in there. I lied.
• 46:02
  But it's all right, because we're gonna get back to it and
• 46:05
  we're going to take a shot in between.
• 46:06
  Yes, exactly. Okay.
• 46:08
  I'll put this on reserve right here.
• 46:10
  Be ready when you guys are, I think I'm okay.
• 46:13
  We'll do that too. I'll just take a huge step.
• 46:16
  There you go. There you go.
• 46:17
  Cheers. Cheers.
• 46:18
  Here's to you. That's whiskey confirmed
• 46:25
  confirmed. That's what?
• 46:28
  Oh, my God. Speaking of last night, Emily
• 46:30
  and I were testing the drinks, right?
• 46:33
  And we were making trial drink. Oh yeah.
• 46:36
  And at first, we're like, I told her, I was like, hey, don't you
• 46:38
  got Jack Daniels above your fridge?
• 46:40
  She's like, yeah. And I was like, well, it's
• 46:42
  whiskey, so we might as well do that.
• 46:44
  And yeah, it don't know. You guys didn't go anywhere
• 46:48
  after that, we just decided. It didn't taste.
• 46:51
  That's great. So I have four roses Home.
• 46:53
  Oh yeah. And so my dumb ass is like here.
• 46:58
  Let me try the difference between jacket for Roses but
• 47:01
  straight. Oh, yeah.
• 47:03
  She took it like a champ and I watched her.
• 47:04
  Oh yeah. And she was like, I was not
• 47:07
  really expecting to do this but I did.
• 47:10
  I don't know what I was thinking when I saw her pour in a cup and
• 47:14
  I'm like, is she? Oh oh oh, she is.
• 47:16
  Yeah, oh, okay, and I saw her sipping.
• 47:18
  Oh she really took it, okay? Yeah, let's just switch to for
• 47:25
  Rose. I knew what the fuck I was
• 47:27
  talking about. That's what you need to look.
• 47:29
  Look at for a business partner, someone that's willing to take
• 47:31
  straight whiskey shots and she took a shot of gin.
• 47:37
  Oh my god. Oh yeah.
• 47:39
  Oh my God, I didn't know, I didn't know that that I think to
• 47:43
  do. So he did it and I knew.
• 47:45
  But I watched, you know, that, you know that things like you,
• 47:48
  tell your friends. Yeah.
• 47:49
  Go ahead and do it, but you're just like sit there and watch
• 47:51
  him with it. Moving so fast.
• 47:53
  Like I did, it's low order. Yes.
• 47:57
  Dusty or is before he could go no, and whatever Sarah: that's
• 48:03
  rough. That is not good.
• 48:05
  I saw her poor and she's like, I'm gonna take a shot of this
• 48:07
  might go ahead baby. No one stopped me.
• 48:10
  So sad, that guess also, Jocelyn serial entrepreneur as well.
• 48:13
  And she was like, okay, I'm on a gin kick so we were like,
• 48:19
  alright we're going to figure out a gin drink for you and
• 48:22
  again, we do Shots with our guests throughout the episodes.
• 48:25
  So I was just like, okay, we're going to do Jen and I'm like,
• 48:28
  you know what, I've never taken a gin shot before.
• 48:31
  Is that a thing? Like if people do that, no one
• 48:33
  says anything. On my foot, Ima take it.
• 48:36
  And I was sitting, I was behind Mike and I looked at her and say
• 48:39
  yeah baby girl, thank you dude. Yeah, it's rough, it's rough.
• 48:46
  But speaking of like weird and senses where you don't really
• 48:50
  think things through, that's how you make.
• 48:53
  Their life. That's that's a transition.
• 48:54
  I don't do. What did you find out about me?
• 48:56
  Yeah, oh yeah. Well, here's a transition.
• 49:00
  You know, we didn't know nothing about you, you know?
• 49:02
  But we came across this article on the Wichita Eagle.
• 49:07
  They did say that the most important person to please you
• 49:10
  say is the one. You see, yo, I'm sorry I'm say
• 49:13
  this again. So you said I did yes.
• 49:17
  You said that are quoting you. Yeah, we're quote, quote ocean,
• 49:20
  quote quote, the most, while we got to bring up.
• 49:23
  Old shit and you tweeted on January.
• 49:37
  First 2028 shit about to say this shit, okay?
• 49:46
  I was like, no way. All live in the clouds now.
• 49:55
  But anyways, you quoted that the most important person to please
• 49:59
  use is the one you see every morning in the mirror.
• 50:02
  Oh yeah, yeah. I remember saying that shit was
• 50:08
  going through a real existential crisis.
• 50:17
  But I believe it. That's right.
• 50:19
  When she We Ready, are going? She's like, dude, listen to
• 50:22
  this. It was time to spend with me, me
• 50:36
  complaining about my life, that I came up with that quote for
• 50:38
  Wichita Eagle. Yes, thank you.
• 50:48
  No, Pharmaceuticals were hurt in the making of This pun.
• 50:55
  Yes, I did say that I do believe it.
• 50:59
  Yeah, you do, believe I do believe it.
• 51:00
  I do. I think, yeah.
• 51:03
  What was the meaning of that quote?
• 51:04
  Can you? Well, I mean, at the time, I if,
• 51:07
  if I'm thinking of the right article, I think that was in
• 51:10
  2017 or 16. Maybe I was getting divorced.
• 51:17
  Oh, yeah, 20:28. Am I going to get divorce in
• 51:19
  2012? Shit.
• 51:20
  Oh no, you're not. It's a tongue, is the tongue.
• 51:24
  Oh yes, Uncle save me. Yes.
• 51:27
  No, I was going through a divorce and, you know, I was
• 51:29
  really kind of, I mean, you know, I changed my direction in
• 51:33
  life several times and I don't, I think you can always reinvent
• 51:35
  yourself. So going through a big change
• 51:37
  like that, you know, I was kind of just finding myself and, and
• 51:41
  figuring out what I wanted. And it may be going through a
• 51:44
  little bit of a midlife crisis, you know.
• 51:45
  I go through on every four or five years so I do every year,
• 51:50
  right? Every year when I turn the next,
• 51:52
  yeah. Yeah, but I think that if you
• 51:54
  can't look at because there's been plenty of times in my life
• 51:56
  when I've looked at myself in the mirror and been like, who
• 51:59
  the fuck are you? What are you doing?
• 52:01
  Why are you doing that things? Like this, are you staring back
• 52:07
  at me, you know, I never thought I would be doing the things I'm
• 52:10
  doing, you know, that kind of thing.
• 52:12
  So it's like you know as long as I think that that's a good
• 52:15
  situation. You can't live life to please
• 52:17
  others because you will others. Will always fail.
• 52:19
  You like you will never have I'm not, I'm not trying to say, you
• 52:24
  can't depend on friends, you can't just depend on the person.
• 52:27
  You love your wife, your, your girlfriend, your boyfriend,
• 52:29
  whatever. I'm just saying, really, though,
• 52:31
  the best thing for them is that you are pleased with yourself.
• 52:35
  You know, that nothing else can go, right, unless you feel good
• 52:38
  about yourself and you have that self-confidence and you're not
• 52:42
  depending on someone else for that.
• 52:44
  Self-confidence, you have to look yourself in the mirror and
• 52:47
  believe in yourself and and and be proud of the person that you
• 52:50
  are. It doesn't matter, whatever you
• 52:51
  anyone else says. And that's why.
• 52:52
  I always whatever compliment someone tells me about what I'm
• 52:55
  doing. I let it roll off because it's
• 52:58
  like I'm not doing this for anyone else but like me, my kids
• 53:02
  you know my passion. Do I care about other people?
• 53:05
  You, of course. Yeah.
• 53:06
  You know, but I don't. And is it good to hear?
• 53:09
  Compliments? Yes.
• 53:09
  But you don't want to let that drive you and be the measure of
• 53:13
  your success. Yeah.
• 53:14
  That's the external validation is not what you're seeking?
• 53:17
  No. Yeah.
• 53:18
  In fact, I've shied away, you know, I mean, if you know does
• 53:22
  he said he Me on stage and I'm just a completely different
• 53:27
  person in real life than the person that's on stage.
• 53:30
  I just I'm not that's a Act and the older, I've gotten the more.
• 53:35
  I like that. I can go into Lucky's and no one
• 53:38
  knows I'm the owner. I mean I'm not going to walk
• 53:40
  around saying I'm the owner. Yeah I don't want to flaunt your
• 53:42
  shit. No, in fact it attracts like
• 53:45
  really annoying conversation so like I'd rather be in a corner
• 53:49
  and just observe and be able to go about my business.
• 53:52
  Sometimes I To just go out with my fiance and just hang out and
• 53:55
  talk to her. Yeah, you know, so I'm an
• 53:57
  observer as well. I I'm like in the back but like
• 54:01
  in La Ventana que. No, I mean, I some bars.
• 54:05
  I that I own. I don't go into very much at all
• 54:09
  and it's just, you know, some people are like why don't you go
• 54:12
  there? It's like me and I yeah I got a
• 54:14
  15 year old 11 year old mining on be there at 10:30.
• 54:18
  My pants my fiancée is got four kids where the Brady Bunch.
• 54:22
  So real shit, you know, I'm not looking to hang, no, no, I don't
• 54:28
  have them, I don't have the minivan.
• 54:30
  No minivan egos mini, man. Come on, we have some cool
• 54:35
  minivans now. No, they don't.
• 54:37
  Yes, they do. There was no other minivan that
• 54:43
  matters other than the Astro van.
• 54:45
  And other than that, he'll know, I'm sorry.
• 54:49
  I don't don't be dropping some fucking Toyota.
• 54:52
  Sienna automatic Lambo doors on the minivan.
• 54:55
  There's nothing. That's funny because that's
• 54:57
  okay. What was about to say?
• 54:58
  What many men are you guys saying is a cool mini.
• 55:00
  Well, I mean like, they're just like upcycled now as in like,
• 55:04
  you know you just cross over. Yeah.
• 55:05
  Like you can resize. You can recline all the way
• 55:07
  back. You know they has a touchscreen.
• 55:09
  You know I'm just saying it's not a minivan but it's a cool
• 55:13
  hmm. In that year I rented a minivan
• 55:18
  in Seattle and that bitch is quiet.
• 55:24
  How do you even know that bitch was running still?
• 55:25
  And there were in the parking lot and I said that we turn the
• 55:28
  song. She's like, yeah, we did your
• 55:30
  future husband sometimes trade in that Corvette.
• 55:35
  We're getting a fucking minivan. Can you tell much room for
• 55:41
  activities? We're gonna, we're gonna tell my
• 55:44
  husband. I think we should sell our house
• 55:46
  and get a minivan. Yeah, you should do that.
• 55:49
  That's the van live now. And then Exciting.
• 55:51
  YouTube videos that just driving to the grocery store and getting
• 55:54
  a shit ton of groceries in your minivan.
• 55:59
  Sometime, I'll put switches as well a body kit and everything.
• 56:04
  Honestly, a dead body in that. That's exactly it.
• 56:06
  Yeah, yeah. No, those are empty because you
• 56:09
  those were going to be the shock cups.
• 56:10
  Emily. Oh, give him to me.
• 56:12
  I was like, I was like did I finish my drink?
• 56:15
  Like one one thing that you just said a couple minutes ago about
• 56:20
  like, you know, Be in the bar and having people know that
• 56:24
  like, that's your bar. You just want to be in the
• 56:25
  corner. Mmm.
• 56:27
  It did remind me of this one night that we were at Lucky's.
• 56:30
  And I was making a lot of jerky at the time and I approached you
• 56:33
  and sold you a bag of jerky. Not knowing that you own The
• 56:36
  Joint. I had I known that.
• 56:38
  I would not have I did I remember it was, it was spicy
• 56:43
  and we talked about. Didn't you doing kimchi as well,
• 56:45
  or something like that. I did we talk about something
• 56:47
  like that. I've been thinking about it
• 56:48
  maybe. Yeah.
• 56:50
  Yeah, I remember. Something.
• 56:51
  Oh yes. Were you smoking it?
• 56:53
  Hmm. Yeah I'm a smoker.
• 56:54
  Yes. I'm not saying he had a bowl
• 56:56
  when he was smoking like some checking.
• 57:02
  Dusty smokes cheese, I don't know how but he does that shit.
• 57:06
  Yeah, yeah yeah yeah I remember you now.
• 57:09
  Yes yes yes. I did buy some jerky from you.
• 57:12
  What did I buy your text about your Chex Mix.
• 57:16
  I don't remember about something from you.
• 57:18
  I feel like it was checking you liked.
• 57:20
  It was Chex Mix because I feel like I remember tasting that.
• 57:23
  Smoky goodness. Yeah.
• 57:24
  Out of the many products that I have.
• 57:26
  I sold you something. Yeah, he's so mean, Hashish on
• 57:32
  South Broadway, but come to find out later.
• 57:39
  I was like, oh my God. That's the.
• 57:40
  Do that once a joint, perfect. See, that's great.
• 57:43
  You didn't know who I was at this pit that often happens with
• 57:46
  like someone was, like, illicit drugs.
• 57:48
  You know, I'm a hand on it. Take that outside.
• 57:50
  What are you talking about? Like, when I occasionally have
• 57:53
  to do you want a bump? Yes.
• 57:55
  These are you have to drop the like I own the place.
• 57:57
  You have to leave. I've had a couple of those
• 58:01
  instances but yeah, speaking of having a tell people things like
• 58:07
  that I think like what Emily was trying to ask you as like we
• 58:12
  wanted to know like you know when you're not sticking that
• 58:14
  external validation because you know what you are looking for
• 58:17
  for yourself, right? You're trying to please yourself
• 58:20
  these days, any day, every day we wanted to know like what's
• 58:24
  the craziest thing you've ever done to try and close a deal?
• 58:27
  If you've had done something like that or a Big purchase.
• 58:30
  The craziest thing I've ever done to close a deal.
• 58:33
  Don't tell me. You did sucking dick.
• 58:48
  Cheeseburger cheeseburger. Yeah.
• 58:57
  Do you want the shot? Do you want more?
• 58:59
  Do you want me to eat? You can pour some in here.
• 59:00
  No, another drink. I could make it real quick.
• 59:02
  No, it's okay. I want the shot.
• 59:03
  Are you want it? Like, you do this like this and
• 59:05
  then I'll give you this for the shot, okay?
• 59:06
  The craziest thing I've ever done for a business deal.
• 59:14
  Gosh. You know, well, not too many
• 59:17
  crazy things for. There's not much excitement
• 59:19
  revolving around a business deal per se.
• 59:22
  I will share a story with like, okay, I won't Name the artist.
• 59:33
  Okay. But it was a rap act name.
• 59:35
  It might have been a little edgy.
• 59:37
  Okay. Okay, maybe had spent some time
• 59:39
  in prison, okay? But that doesn't narrow down.
• 59:42
  I know good. So the deal is, you know, some
• 59:47
  of these hip-hop acts, I mean the weird thing about booking
• 59:51
  hip-hop is, there's a lot of fly-by-night promoters that do
• 59:53
  hip-hop. So two things happen in this
• 59:56
  Wichita Market, you know, so many people have said, I'm
• 59:58
  bringing, I'm bringing, you know, someone to Wichita and
• 1:00:04
  then the show never happened. So people lose faith in the in
• 1:00:06
  the hip-hop, right? The other thing that happens is
• 1:00:09
  a lot of hip-hop artists, get hot checks written to them like
• 1:00:11
  oh it's time to settle the show. Here's a check.
• 1:00:13
  So As a result, they're asking for cash and large sums of cash.
• 1:00:19
  So just picture this, I mean you know you is like you have to sit
• 1:00:23
  there and hand over a bunch of cash.
• 1:00:25
  Well this manager at the time was a little bit, I don't know
• 1:00:27
  what to say. You know, I'd say he was
• 1:00:29
  aggressive and we were like hey we don't have the whole thing in
• 1:00:35
  cash. Will cut you a check.
• 1:00:36
  He's like I can't I can't go back to that tour bus until that
• 1:00:39
  crazy motherfucker that I'm going to hand him Jeff and And
• 1:00:45
  it was getting real tense and he had like, he had shoved, a
• 1:00:48
  female security guard because she stopped him and he didn't
• 1:00:51
  have his VIP, you know, his backstage pass.
• 1:00:53
  And I was like, you know, I had to like sit there and it was
• 1:00:56
  like really tense, you know, and everyone was just kind of
• 1:00:58
  staring each other down. I was like, all right, we'll
• 1:01:01
  pull the cash, but you have to apologize to my female security
• 1:01:04
  guard for you. Yeah, fuck.
• 1:01:06
  Yeah. And so, he's like, all right.
• 1:01:08
  And he did it and he went out and apologize to her and she
• 1:01:11
  came up afterwards and she was like, Hey, I really appreciate
• 1:01:13
  you doing that the whole time. I'm sweating though.
• 1:01:15
  Yeah, you know just because like it's is, you know, this guy he
• 1:01:20
  was right. His artist was crazy and like
• 1:01:22
  yeah he needed all the cash and was one of the Early times when
• 1:01:25
  we had just taken over. So that was the one of those
• 1:01:28
  crazy situations in settling a deal, which would be a deal with
• 1:01:33
  the artist rappers. You can't.
• 1:01:35
  Fuck with that. Do you money is money from them?
• 1:01:38
  And we had this show, I believe this picture game talking shit
• 1:01:42
  basically. Well, we had this game where we
• 1:01:44
  had it was like the Ying Yang Twins and I can't remember a
• 1:01:50
  Petey Pablo and someone else and only like one of the Yin and
• 1:01:54
  Yang Twins showed up Yin or Yang, I don't know.
• 1:02:02
  Kagome. Yeah, we made a mistake, we made
• 1:02:05
  the mistake of paying one of the dudes money before and then we
• 1:02:08
  figure out the other one wasn't coming.
• 1:02:09
  We're like, hey, well, if he's not coming, then we need some of
• 1:02:12
  the back. He's like how much we need to
• 1:02:23
  have the money back. We can't even call yourself
• 1:02:30
  twins. It was a giant brawl starts out.
• 1:02:45
  Yeah, that's true. That's true.
• 1:02:48
  True. But yeah, I don't, yeah, that's
• 1:02:51
  about the craziest I think. Other than that, I mean,
• 1:02:54
  everything's pretty boring, pretty boring contracts, and
• 1:02:59
  wrangling money and all that shit.
• 1:03:01
  So yeah, just just Boring up having fun in general.
• 1:03:04
  It's just like so boring money is so 2010.
• 1:03:08
  It's not funny. Yeah, like yeah, you do.
• 1:03:11
  You have to use Apple pay? Yes, he's got a venmo me.
• 1:03:14
  Oh yeah, that would be cool if someday I can buy a business
• 1:03:16
  with Apple pay daily spend to come back.
• 1:03:27
  Oh my God. But I mean so like one thing
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  that we also want in a chat through is like write your
• 1:03:32
  diverse and diversifying that business portfolio of yours.
• 1:03:35
  Oh sure. Yeah yeah yeah.
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  Go for it. Go for it bro.
• 1:03:39
  Well have you ever had a funny or weird exchange with a
• 1:03:43
  customer? You have a shared too many
• 1:03:48
  details, but we do want a lot of details.
• 1:03:52
  We want to know the name, social security number, what's the
• 1:03:55
  address last forever? Are they on the white books as
• 1:03:59
  we know? Yeah the more the weird the
• 1:04:02
  weird. Oh yeah, I mean, I have a ton of
• 1:04:04
  weird of changes with customers I run bars.
• 1:04:07
  So what's the top? Top one?
• 1:04:11
  That's a tough one. You know, I'll tell her like a
• 1:04:18
  not so funny one, you know, there was this one time, this
• 1:04:20
  guy now came and she was drunk, just obliterated.
• 1:04:25
  And like, I was trying to You know early I'm sorry you dealt
• 1:04:29
  with Emily. Yeah dude.
• 1:04:32
  I can't tell you early on. In my career, I was trying to be
• 1:04:36
  like a responsible person that was serving alcohol to the mass.
• 1:04:42
  At least at least you're trying was trying what?
• 1:04:48
  Nothing. Now I know how I know.
• 1:04:50
  We're all grown-ups. We all make our own decisions
• 1:04:52
  but like back then. So I remember one time at
• 1:04:54
  Kirby's went because when I bought Kirby's, I had to.
• 1:04:57
  I learn everything about the bar business.
• 1:04:58
  So I had the lead bartender, teach me everything, and I
• 1:05:00
  mopped, and I cleaned the toilets and I opened the bar and
• 1:05:04
  I worked shifts and I did all that with customers.
• 1:05:08
  And this one guy walks in, he's a younger, you know, black guy
• 1:05:12
  and he had a food trailer or a food truck, and he was there.
• 1:05:16
  It was a really icy night, he drank and he just got
• 1:05:19
  obliterated, you know. And before I knew it and then I
• 1:05:23
  was like looking at, he's like, I'm going to drive home was like
• 1:05:25
  that I can't let you drive home and it's icy out, you're gonna.
• 1:05:28
  Yeah that's that's that's crazy and it, you know, he was like, I
• 1:05:34
  got it, I can't, I gotta drive home.
• 1:05:36
  I was that. And my other bartender was
• 1:05:39
  working there. As a, hey, watch the bar.
• 1:05:40
  I'm gonna drive this dude home, so I drove him home but take him
• 1:05:44
  to the sketchy part of town. I was like, what am I doing?
• 1:05:47
  My took me back to one time. My dad went in this Clinic.
• 1:05:52
  I was working. I was a teenager at the time.
• 1:05:54
  And this guy walks in, he's like, I need some gas.
• 1:05:56
  I need someone to help me go get gas.
• 1:05:57
  My dad was like, told me to go help him, and I went drove him
• 1:06:01
  to the gas station to get gas and drove him to his car and he
• 1:06:04
  was like frantically trying to track me down with my, you know,
• 1:06:07
  analog cell phone at the time. That was given me brain cancer.
• 1:06:11
  But like, yeah, I drove back and it just reminds me of that.
• 1:06:15
  Like, what am I getting myself into I dropped him off,
• 1:06:17
  everything was fine. The next day he comes, I was
• 1:06:19
  there at open and he brought his dad with him and he was just
• 1:06:23
  like, man, I really appreciate that.
• 1:06:24
  Is that came with him so that, you know, he could drop him off
• 1:06:27
  and they had a pitcher of beer hung out and everything was
• 1:06:29
  cool. You know, you say them a lot of
• 1:06:32
  money. I did, you know, Anna life.
• 1:06:34
  Yeah. But then there's there's one
• 1:06:37
  time I was trying to help this gal out of Lucky's and she was
• 1:06:40
  obliterated. She's trying to get in her car
• 1:06:42
  and I was sitting there at the door of the car and I was just
• 1:06:44
  like she was just like fuck. You fucking asshole.
• 1:06:49
  You want that me? If I didn't leave and I was like
• 1:06:51
  lady. You are.
• 1:06:53
  So, there's no way I can help. Have you operate a vehicle.
• 1:06:56
  Please call someone to come and get you.
• 1:06:58
  And I was just sitting there and I videotaped it.
• 1:07:00
  Yeah. And just because I was like, I'm
• 1:07:02
  interacting with this person that's drunk smart man, smart
• 1:07:07
  man. But then yeah, but she's a girl.
• 1:07:10
  Oh yeah, yeah. And this was this was way before
• 1:07:12
  that was really on the collective conscious but you
• 1:07:15
  know, like I just made sure. Sure.
• 1:07:17
  And finally some guy came and picked her up and everything
• 1:07:21
  like that, but I posted the video and it wouldn't show her
• 1:07:24
  vase. But I posted the video on
• 1:07:26
  Facebook and it stood for about, you know, a day and then later I
• 1:07:30
  was like, yeah, that's fucked up, man.
• 1:07:31
  I just shot someone at their worst moment, you know what I
• 1:07:34
  mean? And it didn't show her Identity
• 1:07:36
  or anything, but then I so I deleted, I made a puzzle as I
• 1:07:39
  had earlier, made a post about someone that I was dealing with,
• 1:07:41
  and it was because it was a long process, man.
• 1:07:44
  I mean, like, it was like a 20 30 minute.
• 1:07:46
  Says the Walker out of the bar. Stop her from driving off and
• 1:07:49
  then get her to call someone to come.
• 1:07:51
  Pick her up cursing at me the whole time I was really
• 1:07:54
  frustrated but you know I just you know Alex.
• 1:07:59
  I'm gonna tell you this right now.
• 1:08:00
  You can't always be Captain save-a-ho.
• 1:08:02
  Oh no, no, but I'm really good. Captain save-a-ho just saying
• 1:08:07
  they'd be there. Be a lot of hos being saved.
• 1:08:09
  We try to be captain save-a-ho. No, no, no stop.
• 1:08:12
  You were when you were also drunk.
• 1:08:15
  I'm not listening. This was Throwing about herself
• 1:08:18
  and her friends, lots of to go get tacos, like, who's gonna who
• 1:08:22
  do if my friends left me? I fuck I'll be so pissed.
• 1:08:25
  Oh yeah, yeah yeah. Be fucked up.
• 1:08:27
  A lot of people out of the old town to do that in someone.
• 1:08:31
  It's so sad. It's sad.
• 1:08:34
  I cry. And I'd be like, and I look at
• 1:08:36
  my friends, I'm so glad. You guys are still with and
• 1:08:38
  their families like super drunk too, and I'm like, just shut the
• 1:08:41
  fuck up and get in the car. I want tacos, I will tell you, I
• 1:08:45
  don't, I don't operate like that.
• 1:08:46
  Or, you know, I really protect myself.
• 1:08:48
  I've gotten burned, you know, I've got, I've gotten some
• 1:08:51
  sticky situations and, you know, I just protect myself a little
• 1:08:56
  bit more, but there's been plenty of, you know, there's
• 1:08:59
  been plenty of interactions where I'm talking to someone and
• 1:09:01
  I'm like, hey, you know, and I have to whip out the hey, I'm
• 1:09:03
  the owner and it's so funny to watch their faces of that
• 1:09:06
  they're like no, you're not. Which especially a crew is only
• 1:09:11
  you think I'd make up that I own this place.
• 1:09:18
  You think I'm lying about was gonna lie.
• 1:09:21
  I'd come up with a better story for you.
• 1:09:23
  I'm gonna do that from now on. I won't go to if I go to another
• 1:09:25
  bar opening, I own this place but you don't actually, I know,
• 1:09:28
  I don't know. They won't listen to me.
• 1:09:32
  No, that's the the but that's that's most of the interesting
• 1:09:34
  interactions. I did one time one time.
• 1:09:36
  I'll tell you this story. Yeah.
• 1:09:38
  It was like my first major fight story at a barb.
• 1:09:41
  You know, that I had to deal with but this guy was causing
• 1:09:43
  problems is a punk rock show at Kirby's.
• 1:09:47
  And this guy just like grab the mic and like and hit the lead
• 1:09:52
  singer and like he grabbed the mic stand, that kind of jolted
• 1:09:54
  it and hit the lead singer in the face in the lips which if
• 1:09:57
  you're a lead singer and you ever get hit in the lips with a
• 1:10:00
  microphone, it's the worst pain because it's you know it's kind
• 1:10:03
  of like the equivalent of if you a horn player a trombone or
• 1:10:07
  trumpet player if you boop their fucking horn when they're
• 1:10:10
  playing do this, it's really painful as you're applying
• 1:10:13
  pressure whatever. And so we're trying to get this
• 1:10:16
  guy out and he's like like standing he's standing in front
• 1:10:18
  of me is like and then he does this like Scottie Pippen flop
• 1:10:22
  like you know, he's like oh you hit me, you hit me, everyone saw
• 1:10:27
  that, right? And I'm like, oh shit side
• 1:10:29
  Attract it. I took it like a Facebook
• 1:10:32
  dossier, and I took it to the police station and I fucking
• 1:10:36
  filed a report and said he threatened to kill me later on.
• 1:10:39
  He was messaging me. Tell me he was going to kill me
• 1:10:40
  and shit. Yeah.
• 1:10:42
  All that stuff so I've come to create stories like that.
• 1:10:45
  Yeah, too many. Too many.
• 1:10:47
  Yeah, well how about we say to? Here's to you Alex for being
• 1:10:52
  Captain save-a-ho, Captain, say bellies, you to be captain and
• 1:10:56
  also for not getting in Crazy altercations or you starting
• 1:10:59
  them? Yeah, I'm a lover not a fighter.
• 1:11:08
  I handed tune my shot and he goes, yeah, because you don't
• 1:11:11
  want to take a shot. Yeah, take a picture of her
• 1:11:16
  face. As you said like I will, I will
• 1:11:22
  take the whiskey shot. Emily will not.
• 1:11:25
  Oh yeah, that was pretty good. Yeah, see ya freaking out for no
• 1:11:28
  reason? Yeah.
• 1:11:30
  Yeah, Whiskey's good for you. You know how good it's so good.
• 1:11:36
  Oh, like it's not like fixing your organs good but oh yeah
• 1:11:40
  totally yeah heart condition whiskey.
• 1:11:45
  Diabetes. Whiskey has diabetes.
• 1:11:50
  I knew it. I mean, waiting so long serve
• 1:11:59
  that up like that Olympic volleyball player.
• 1:12:03
  Tight bikini. I just served it up to you.
• 1:12:05
  Hit it. He spiked it into the sand.
• 1:12:07
  Good job. So we have some other still
• 1:12:11
  funny questions for you. Okay, save some okay.
• 1:12:14
  And let's kind of They'll go into a couple other things like
• 1:12:17
  can you tell us about one of your most memorable moments in
• 1:12:21
  your career so far memorable? Oh good bad.
• 1:12:25
  Yeah, so you know here so let me just give you so you know I
• 1:12:31
  played in a band that started in Winfield Kansas.
• 1:12:39
  Wait are you guys from Winfield? Now we just got a lot of people
• 1:12:42
  and star you Laotian. Yeah my Whole family.
• 1:13:02
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We started when I went to
• 1:13:04
  Southwestern and the band started in Winfield.
• 1:13:07
  So but so for us, you know, we were playing we're playing shows
• 1:13:11
  at the Cotillion lot because we were the popular band at the
• 1:13:14
  time. We were being asked to support
• 1:13:16
  the national acts. I played with Vanilla Ice, they
• 1:13:18
  were real big fish. Cherry Poppin, daddies?
• 1:13:21
  You know I open for just about anyone in the 90s 2000s.
• 1:13:25
  We open for Mighty Mighty Bosstones my open for just a ton
• 1:13:30
  of Acts and a lot of them happened at the meeting.
• 1:13:34
  Yeah. I mean we were how old were you
• 1:13:36
  when you when this happened I was in the band from 18 to my
• 1:13:40
  late 20s. So so around this time was like
• 1:13:43
  20 something. So yes.
• 1:13:44
  So young back then I was young blood.
• 1:13:47
  Make it no money. We were playing those shows for
• 1:13:48
  nothing but you do for your heart.
• 1:13:51
  Oh yeah. And for the people and for the
• 1:13:52
  exposure which people bitch about now, but back then it was
• 1:13:55
  like, fuck out. We'll play for exposure.
• 1:13:57
  Yeah, exactly. Put us in front of that crowd.
• 1:13:59
  And it worked no name on that flyer.
• 1:14:01
  So then flash, I remember the first time we got an opening act
• 1:14:06
  show at the Cotillion, and I remembered Gathering the band
• 1:14:10
  and the house, by the railroad tracks on 11th Street, in
• 1:14:14
  Winfield Kansas. Is called it the Roadhouse.
• 1:14:16
  There's a just a dingy fucking house that a couple guys were
• 1:14:21
  renting. We would full of fucking Natty
• 1:14:24
  Light cans and mean I like was cheap.
• 1:14:28
  Canned meat tuna, Vienna sausage, whatever meat came
• 1:14:31
  into. Can they had it on hand, spam.
• 1:14:34
  Oh, come on, girl, fucking love. Spam Loco Moco.
• 1:14:37
  Yes. So, you know, I remember
• 1:14:42
  Gathering the band and the upstairs.
• 1:14:45
  Office and was like, guys we got a show at the Cotillion.
• 1:14:48
  It's this is the this stuff's going to start happening for me
• 1:14:51
  like this. Is it really because?
• 1:14:58
  Yeah but so then Flash Forward to so we took over the Cotillion
• 1:15:03
  on my birthday. March 7th, my birthday is March
• 1:15:07
  16. I see a hot mess.
• 1:15:15
  We are hard to please. Are you watching?
• 1:15:18
  Our love people. We are lovers.
• 1:15:21
  My lover's no we're good gift givers what you want but then
• 1:15:28
  torture, you treat us badly. I'll be a fucking Indian giver.
• 1:15:33
  Remember that time in 1944 when I gave you that ring, that you
• 1:15:36
  wanted all the time that you pointed out that?
• 1:15:38
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:15:41
  So so I tell the guys, I'll you know, It's become so the March
• 1:15:45
  7th, we take over the Cotillion and I walk in on the first show
• 1:15:48
  is Split Lip Rayfield. We after we took over and Split
• 1:15:51
  Lip Rayfield if no one knows is a band that came from actually,
• 1:15:56
  they started at Kirby's and they open 40.
• 1:15:58
  Fill back in the day, where was it?
• 1:16:01
  Was oval split the brave field, and Reverend Horton Heat.
• 1:16:05
  And it was a show at the Cotillion that was pretty
• 1:16:09
  popular but the first show where it was under our ownership, my
• 1:16:14
  Guidance was split lip and I walk in and I sit down in the
• 1:16:19
  desk that the old owner used to negotiate deals like yeah where
• 1:16:23
  I would like go into his office and he would pay me, nothing or
• 1:16:25
  whatever and I'm sitting on the other side of the desk and that
• 1:16:28
  was a real memorable moment, was a really weird and it was in a
• 1:16:33
  weird part of my life too. Because both, my parents had
• 1:16:35
  just died in 2017 and we took and I was dealing with all of
• 1:16:40
  that. Going through a breakup
• 1:16:42
  post-divorce, the first serious breakup, and I somehow managed
• 1:16:46
  to get everything done that needed to get done with the
• 1:16:48
  Cotillion and got it. Yeah.
• 1:16:50
  And walked in there and it was a dream come true to get to that
• 1:16:55
  level. So, for that one and say, yeah,
• 1:17:00
  well, there's always time because here's the solo because,
• 1:17:05
  damn, that's a real. Wow.
• 1:17:07
  Yeah, it was, it was really, I mean, it was just one of those
• 1:17:09
  like, I can't believe because I, you know, when I came To wit to
• 1:17:15
  Winfield. I remember one of the first
• 1:17:19
  shows I went to go see was no doubt 311 at the Cotillion and
• 1:17:23
  they'll no doubt three-level. Yeah, no doubt 311 played at the
• 1:17:27
  Cotillion somewhere around 1996 or something like that.
• 1:17:32
  We're five. Maybe, maybe even 1994 probably
• 1:17:36
  95. Anyway, you know, that was like,
• 1:17:38
  I was like, this is an amazing space.
• 1:17:39
  So then they become, you know, the owner.
• 1:17:43
  Yeah. Was amazing and and walking
• 1:17:47
  through there when it's empty is kind of creepy but it's a really
• 1:17:50
  beautiful thing. I'll tell you what sometime you
• 1:17:53
  guys. You know, when I'm not, if you
• 1:17:55
  want to, if you get a host that that deems, it necessary, come
• 1:18:00
  out and broadcast from the Cotillion.
• 1:18:04
  I'll tell you what, it's a really cool.
• 1:18:06
  Like it's a really, you can either broadcast from the stage,
• 1:18:08
  but when you're in that space and it's empty and you walk to
• 1:18:11
  the center of the Dome, it's a really interesting.
• 1:18:14
  Thing acoustical anomaly it so you can hear your voice travel.
• 1:18:18
  Like if you were whispering in the center of the Cotillion, you
• 1:18:21
  can hear it on the extremities, you know, just that was her.
• 1:18:23
  But I've done some things that night like jammed with people
• 1:18:28
  but I will extend that invite to you guys if with the with the
• 1:18:31
  proper guess. And maybe it's a musical guest
• 1:18:33
  because it might be fun to record them.
• 1:18:35
  Like playing acoustic in that space.
• 1:18:36
  That is true. But yeah, come and make sure
• 1:18:39
  it's on the week that I don't have my kids and I'll I'll play
• 1:18:42
  host to you guys. I meant, you know, you know, you
• 1:18:44
  can An interview there with your schedule.
• 1:18:46
  Well, I mean this is the week. I don't have my kids so every
• 1:18:49
  other week from now. Oh okay.
• 1:18:55
  He has his kids. Okay.
• 1:18:57
  He has a future remember? Yeah.
• 1:19:01
  That's right. That's right.
• 1:19:02
  That's we're living in clouds. We're living beds.
• 1:19:04
  Yes. So cheers to that.
• 1:19:05
  Yeah. That would be.
• 1:19:08
  How was I think you guys would dig it?
• 1:19:11
  I think you guys would love it. That's when we know who will
• 1:19:15
  have made it. You to our head and turn.
• 1:19:20
  Nobody clinked with him. My name is shawni.
• 1:19:28
  Did I say that right? Look, I'm But Connie.
• 1:19:34
  Wait, I thought that was bitch. I thought you finally was bitch.
• 1:19:39
  I don't. So, you know, I came over here
• 1:19:41
  when I was two and so I remember a lot.
• 1:19:47
  Out of my mind, gonna English we're being coming?
• 1:19:49
  Well, I mean most ruthless first.
• 1:19:51
  Yeah. And, you know, we were
• 1:19:53
  westernized Malaysia. So, I mean, they taught English
• 1:19:55
  in the schools that I want, and then I remember my mom and my
• 1:19:58
  sister talking native tongue, but it faded two times.
• 1:20:03
  So, yeah, yeah. So I mean, we're all.
• 1:20:05
  We're all neighbors late. Yeah.
• 1:20:06
  Laos and and, and Vietnam and Malaysia.
• 1:20:09
  Just boom, bang bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
• 1:20:13
  One of my, if I ever make it big, In my real estate life.
• 1:20:19
  I was really thinking about taking all of us too loud.
• 1:20:23
  Oh, you want us to live in the ranch to just us the fields?
• 1:20:27
  You want us to be on the field? Yes, in my area.
• 1:20:29
  I mean, I'm not mad I come from a ranch.
• 1:20:31
  See, I think you get it, you get to the Asian Peninsula.
• 1:20:34
  And I mean, Asia, Asia are will take you anywhere for 20 bucks.
• 1:20:40
  A resort is 20 bucks. I know.
• 1:20:41
  That's what is crazy man. That's all inclusive.
• 1:20:44
  I know. When I was in Kuala, Lumpur, you
• 1:20:49
  know, and it was attached to like a five-story mall.
• 1:20:52
  Yeah. The grocery store the, in the
• 1:20:54
  basement with the durian or actually no durian allowed in
• 1:20:57
  that space, they were like no Dorian.
• 1:20:58
  But wait is that the fruit right?
• 1:21:01
  That's the this a fruit that smells like five yellow but it
• 1:21:10
  smells like, you smells like dead.
• 1:21:17
  Do you eat it? No me neither.
• 1:21:20
  I can't the balut. You know, I'll eat the bird but
• 1:21:24
  I will not fucking eat that shit.
• 1:21:26
  I don't know. I like rambutan rambutans, my
• 1:21:31
  favorite. Oh yeah, that's good.
• 1:21:33
  Yeah, that's really good. Yeah, then we went to a went to
• 1:21:36
  Malaysia and we had this we went to an Indian area or actually it
• 1:21:41
  was a malaria. It was a, they did saute and we
• 1:21:44
  had such a eating contest and I'm just going to point put this
• 1:21:47
  Us out there for the listeners. That, if you go to a foreign
• 1:21:49
  country, do not engage in any contest with no, no, I do not.
• 1:21:55
  Do not, do not engage disengage. And if they say pussy, won't use
• 1:22:00
  a pussy. Won't pussy.
• 1:22:04
  Won't not a good idea. You know, thinking of Malaysia,
• 1:22:10
  uh, you know, in-laws back in 2019.
• 1:22:14
  And, you know, it's like very modernized now.
• 1:22:16
  Yeah. Like back in where my family are
• 1:22:19
  from like it's very like how do I say this?
• 1:22:22
  Like very poor, very poor. And I think like the best thing
• 1:22:27
  ever in. Like I wish here in the US will
• 1:22:31
  have this is street food at night.
• 1:22:33
  Oh yeah. It's like the best thing.
• 1:22:35
  Yeah, it's like everywhere everywhere everywhere.
• 1:22:38
  Just sad when you don't see that in.
• 1:22:40
  Yeah. Most I mean well and maybe like
• 1:22:42
  we like, you know, west coast, East Coast.
• 1:22:44
  Yeah, I think the food truck. Is kind of like that a little,
• 1:22:48
  but it's just not in the midwest because because the cost of a
• 1:22:53
  food truck versus the cost of a brick-and-mortar, it sound like
• 1:22:56
  nothing. It's like very different in
• 1:22:59
  California, right? Because, like, you know, like to
• 1:23:02
  have Equitable space and California and like ride the
• 1:23:04
  tides of the, whether the neighborhood comes and goes.
• 1:23:07
  So it makes sense to have a food truck in California.
• 1:23:09
  And plus, it's fair weather all year long.
• 1:23:11
  Yeah, like in Wichita or in the midwest.
• 1:23:15
  I mean, there's a whole winter season.
• 1:23:17
  You have to deal with people just not even wanting to be out,
• 1:23:19
  you know? Yes.
• 1:23:20
  So that's hard to survive like that.
• 1:23:22
  Yeah. When I went allows, oh my God,
• 1:23:24
  that's what I did every night with my with my cousins and my
• 1:23:27
  family, and I loved every single moment of it.
• 1:23:30
  I ate every fucking, every fucking venue.
• 1:23:34
  Then I can find, and I'll just eat everything, but I had, I
• 1:23:38
  vote to your point here. Yeah, most of the food trucks.
• 1:23:44
  I go. And if I want to order something
• 1:23:46
  I'm like I'm not Not going to pay that price because like, in
• 1:23:48
  my hand, yeah, I'm coming from different food, truck
• 1:23:52
  experiences and I'm like Zach, that makes zero sense to me.
• 1:23:55
  Also, your tacos are not authentic.
• 1:23:57
  You want me to eat out of a flour tortilla?
• 1:23:59
  I don't think so. Do you want me to pay?
• 1:24:00
  You want me to pay $10 for two tacos and fucking our sour cream
• 1:24:06
  to you call this pico de gallo? It's like, it's like when people
• 1:24:14
  try, like, it's like Asian food to, as well.
• 1:24:16
  So, Like they try to, you know, cops, yes, why should I?
• 1:24:22
  Oh, yeah, and you're just like, it's like Panda Express and
• 1:24:24
  you're just like really well, there's a time and a place for
• 1:24:28
  yeah. Yeah.
• 1:24:29
  Yeah. Like a walnut.
• 1:24:31
  Want to shrink is pretty good. My, my aunt is man's direct is
• 1:24:38
  the regional director for panda, and then I'd be like, hook me up
• 1:24:43
  with some walnut shrimp girl. Yep.
• 1:24:47
  But I pay, I got to represent her some time.
• 1:24:51
  Oh yeah. So we're really getting into
• 1:24:53
  some work, life's, tough balance type of things.
• 1:24:55
  Now we want to ask you like what do you enjoy to do outside of
• 1:24:59
  being a boss. That's funny.
• 1:25:00
  Boss ass bitch. I have a really bad habit of
• 1:25:04
  making all of my passions business, really bad at all.
• 1:25:12
  Podcasts that are business-related reading books,
• 1:25:15
  that are business-related, that type of thing.
• 1:25:16
  Or what do you mean? Well, like if I'm Monopoly, I'm
• 1:25:21
  buying this fucking house. So 500.
• 1:25:25
  Yeah, I pick hobbies that. I then try to monetize, so, like
• 1:25:30
  Neva hobby shook like a sneaker collection.
• 1:25:34
  I'm a sneakerhead. Okay.
• 1:25:36
  Okay, I'm a sneakerhead and I, and I'm also you.
• 1:25:38
  Look, here's the thing, okay? You don't.
• 1:25:42
  Here's what I will say. You don't become overweight.
• 1:25:45
  If you don't have some OCD behaviors, you don't like I've
• 1:25:48
  also lost 130 pounds, you don't do that, without OCD behaviors,
• 1:25:52
  you don't decide to own five businesses without OCD
• 1:25:55
  behaviors. And so, if you pick something
• 1:25:57
  that you're a hobby with like these shoes, I've been I
• 1:26:00
  suddenly started get back into him because I was a sneakerhead.
• 1:26:03
  When I was young, and then when I got divorced, I had some
• 1:26:06
  Jordan fours, original Jordan fours, the breads, the black and
• 1:26:11
  red In fours, were the first Nike sneakers.
• 1:26:14
  I bought with my money that I saved.
• 1:26:19
  Yeah, but the classic breads. So, look up Jordan for bread and
• 1:26:26
  I kept them, I kept them through high school, middle school
• 1:26:32
  college and I had them with me in the house.
• 1:26:34
  I lived with my ex-wife. Yeah.
• 1:26:36
  I got divorced, I moved to a much smaller pipe first
• 1:26:39
  apartment than a small house and Kept it around and but they were
• 1:26:44
  falling apart. They were like disintegrating
• 1:26:47
  and she threw them away. But I wanted to put well, you
• 1:26:53
  know, in all fairness, I didn't pull them out of her house.
• 1:26:58
  You're good divorcee. We're good pals.
• 1:27:02
  I understand why I didn't take that shit with me, but then I
• 1:27:04
  suddenly went on a kick and I start buying shoes and I started
• 1:27:06
  buying shoes, I'm sorry, I buy shoes.
• 1:27:08
  Yeah, then I launched my own like side.
• 1:27:12
  Little okay, shoe trade. So I'm selling shoes on goat and
• 1:27:17
  eBay. DD have a favorite pair of shoes
• 1:27:23
  style, like someone's that you've kept.
• 1:27:25
  And then I have a second question.
• 1:27:27
  So I am right now. I'm a real big fan of the Jordan
• 1:27:31
  3's, just about any color way, but I'm wearing desert elephants
• 1:27:35
  right now. I've got, I mean I like the Air
• 1:27:38
  Jordan Ones. Yeah, I like the Air Jordan
• 1:27:40
  Ones, but Jordan for is that I just showed you.
• 1:27:44
  Yeah. Yeah. $500.
• 1:27:51
  I mean, he's like I can get more.
• 1:27:54
  I mean, you could, you could afford it, you can afford it.
• 1:27:57
  Where do you see $500? Uncle.
• 1:28:01
  That's the that's the black cement.
• 1:28:02
  So that, that was that came out a couple years ago. 58 over
• 1:28:05
  there. Yeah.
• 1:28:06
  You 158 over there. And that's kind of low.
• 1:28:08
  I think they're about with two PS, knock X.
• 1:28:11
  They may be used, but I have some dead stock.
• 1:28:13
  Deadstock means they've never been worn.
• 1:28:15
  So I keep a couple dead stock and then I have some that I
• 1:28:17
  wear. So it's the like do when you're
• 1:28:21
  buying like these types of shoes, like you mean that you
• 1:28:24
  buy some for yourself that you're going to wear and then
• 1:28:26
  you buy some to hold onto. Okay.
• 1:28:28
  So that you can later. So, I'm the kind of guy that,
• 1:28:30
  like, if I buy toys, I don't like to take them out of their
• 1:28:32
  box. So, I'm that the person is,
• 1:28:35
  like, you know, there's some things that can be played with,
• 1:28:38
  but there's some things you just keep in, it's like, mint.
• 1:28:41
  Like, you know, that meant to like you in five years, you sell
• 1:28:43
  it seems like I want that untouched.
• 1:28:45
  I told one of my ex-boyfriends a long time ago that I was really
• 1:28:48
  into Dragon Ball Z and so for the longest time he would buy me
• 1:28:53
  like Dragon Ball Z, naught action figures but you know just
• 1:28:56
  like some really good like prop up ones like Expensive ones that
• 1:29:00
  you don't play with. My older sister will make so
• 1:29:03
  much fun of me because I have nieces and nephews we still do.
• 1:29:06
  But actually my nephew's will come to my house and they will
• 1:29:09
  want to grab them. And then my sister's, I was
• 1:29:11
  like, no, no, yeah, yeah, these are not toys.
• 1:29:13
  So I had, I have a bunch of Star Wars figures that I used to hang
• 1:29:17
  on my office wall, my son would come in and press R2D2's button
• 1:29:20
  so you make a noise with another?
• 1:29:22
  Yeah, exactly. Yes.
• 1:29:25
  So this boyfriend sounds nice. What did he do to fuck up?
• 1:29:28
  I know that was x0. He did a lot of bad.
• 1:29:31
  We don't speak about him. Those are pretty pricey right
• 1:29:43
  now. Click on that goat link.
• 1:29:45
  What are those Kobe's go for 700?
• 1:29:49
  Well I'm I'm kind of like a bought that so all I'm trying to
• 1:29:52
  do is like move enough stop. Stop So I list I listen to this
• 1:29:56
  camera lens, I had for sale and it's funny.
• 1:30:00
  I was talking to this kid. He was Asian, thank you.
• 1:30:02
  And he was like, my grandpa has you're welcome at the Sigma 70
• 1:30:07
  or 100 to 200 Lana, 7200 lens and he was like, hey are you
• 1:30:11
  interested in any trades? I was like, yeah, listen, he's
• 1:30:13
  like I got a Tamron 100 to 300. I was like, nah, dude, I've got
• 1:30:16
  to Sony's, I don't need that Lindsay's line and I almost said
• 1:30:18
  to him because he was Asian, I'm not trying to be racist.
• 1:30:22
  Do you have any Sneakers? But I didn't, I kept it in.
• 1:30:24
  I was like, I don't want to Because he's Asian, maybe he
• 1:30:26
  didn't like sneakers. I'm gonna and then.
• 1:30:28
  And then the moment he's like, unless you want some dunks, I
• 1:30:31
  was like, whoa, what are you talking?
• 1:30:33
  What do you got? What do you think?
• 1:30:34
  Shows me five pairs of dunks that he has one's a supreme
• 1:30:37
  Supreme collab dunk. Which is worth 400.
• 1:30:41
  He trains me 500 or a thousand dollars worth of shoes for this
• 1:30:45
  $600 lens. So now I got to move those, but
• 1:30:48
  I'm trying to get to a Travis Scott, collab Nike.
• 1:30:55
  I'm probably boring day everybody else with this is this
• 1:30:57
  like this shit Geeks me out. Yeah there's a lot of people who
• 1:31:01
  are very interested in this up and like I was I just said like
• 1:31:04
  jokingly but also true like alligator boots we you know
• 1:31:08
  Mexicans we were Booth well I gotta tell you what's your like
• 1:31:11
  $700? Sure are not cheap.
• 1:31:13
  Yeah, you know there's a funny thing about men's fashion versus
• 1:31:17
  ladies fashion is that lady with the exception of the designer
• 1:31:20
  stuff, like you're saying there's a lot of affordable
• 1:31:24
  because women's Russians go in and out so quickly.
• 1:31:26
  There's a lot of affordable things you can buy it there and
• 1:31:30
  still be stylish which one Is this one?
• 1:31:40
  I'm a liar? Yes, I will.
• 1:31:44
  Yeah, looks good. I think you Emily would worry
• 1:31:46
  that Emily. I cannot see you with that.
• 1:31:48
  Yeah, that's why because I love it.
• 1:31:50
  You would know where crap like that.
• 1:31:52
  Yes. Because that's exactly.
• 1:31:56
  That's the Asian in you I was sitting there at my
• 1:32:15
  family's house and I was like, I want some balloons Yaga, she can
• 1:32:19
  sit around a table and relate. Here is my brother and we talked
• 1:32:24
  about fishing all the time right now.
• 1:32:34
  Yeah, it's really well. You know, here's a funny thing.
• 1:32:37
  We were always told if you tour over in like Japan to not price
• 1:32:41
  your merchandise like because in America you're sitting there
• 1:32:44
  like, okay, I bought this shirt for five bucks, wholesale, I'm
• 1:32:47
  going to sell it for 10. That's 100, a market.
• 1:32:50
  If you go to Japan and you try to sell a ten dollar, sure
• 1:32:53
  they'll be like what's wrong with it was cheap.
• 1:32:56
  So they're like, no, you got to price your shit at like, 30
• 1:32:58
  bucks, 40 bucks? Because this, yeah, it's kind
• 1:33:01
  of, its kind of interesting but it's like, I, Um, make a saline.
• 1:33:04
  Sure, and just do press on and I'd be like, this is 50, 60
• 1:33:07
  bucks. Well, everyone's trying to start
• 1:33:11
  a business over there. Yeah, they're big on the
• 1:33:14
  entrepreneurship themselves. So, to answer your question, my
• 1:33:17
  but my real problem is, is making all my hobbies like
• 1:33:21
  music. I would say that, what do I like
• 1:33:23
  to do my spare time? Well, I like to play music, but
• 1:33:26
  I play music for money now. So like, you know, and I mean.
• 1:33:29
  Do I like shoes? Yeah.
• 1:33:30
  But I'm buying shoes. That try to sell them for a
• 1:33:32
  profit. Yeah.
• 1:33:33
  Do I read? I mean I read a lot in not like
• 1:33:37
  a traditional book says, it's good for the soul.
• 1:33:41
  Honestly, I'm sure to be honest, I don't read good.
• 1:33:46
  I don't know. I love that.
• 1:33:48
  This is Adidas. I do, you know, before I met
• 1:33:56
  Fanny, I didn't read no fucking bugs, or nothing whatsoever.
• 1:33:59
  And then like this bitch really made me think, like, she really
• 1:34:02
  pick my Brain and I'm like, just I really want
• 1:34:23
  but anyways you know how you're in a band and everything.
• 1:34:25
  Do you still sing for fun or do you be still?
• 1:34:28
  Yeah yeah I mean with Monterey Jack it's still considered fun.
• 1:34:32
  Yeah I have a lot of I enjoy doing that.
• 1:34:36
  That's just good. Release and your therapy.
• 1:34:39
  Yeah, 100%. Yeah, it's really enjoyable for
• 1:34:43
  me. I do like to still sing.
• 1:34:47
  That's good. So we're going to transition to
• 1:34:50
  something that we're calling a lightning round.
• 1:34:52
  Yes. Okay.
• 1:34:53
  And I did text you. This one ocean?
• 1:34:55
  Yeah. That way, you can't because
• 1:34:56
  that's not really lightning but we like to think I got.
• 1:35:00
  Yeah, I'm there but it's going to take me a little.
• 1:35:01
  Yeah, yeah exactly. Okay, so we didn't say he would
• 1:35:05
  lead this lightning round. Do you want to leave?
• 1:35:07
  You want me to do it? I believe.
• 1:35:08
  Okay, leave. All right, you go, if you have
• 1:35:11
  an, if you could have any superpower, what would it be and
• 1:35:14
  why x-ray vision, fucking Dusty. I lied.
• 1:35:23
  It's not x-ray vision. I think my Power would be speed.
• 1:35:38
  I just rush in, you know, just like get a bunch of shit done in
• 1:35:41
  a small amount of time, I was gonna say, x-ray vision.
• 1:35:44
  So I could go out to the beach and see, you know, do the
• 1:35:48
  teleport. I mean, we can just Google it
• 1:35:50
  now. That's true.
• 1:35:51
  Yeah, super me. You know, I just barely notice
• 1:35:56
  about AI, Emily. What chat jpg?
• 1:36:00
  Oh yeah. I was gonna say my superpower
• 1:36:01
  would be Ted GPT. Nothing about it shoulder.
• 1:36:04
  Jeff. I've been trying to use chat GB
• 1:36:07
  to hear nothing but Flack for it.
• 1:36:11
  What you? You gave me Flack for it.
• 1:36:14
  I didn't know nothing about it. Talking about the I was talking
• 1:36:17
  about Rai those. I Fanny, we were sitting here
• 1:36:21
  storyboarding and I was like, wait, what, what do you say?
• 1:36:25
  What the fuck I was like, dude, Dusty used it recently and she's
• 1:36:29
  like, what the fuck are you talking about?
• 1:36:30
  My God. Oh my God, Emily.
• 1:36:32
  Anyways, back to the lightning. What's the most ridiculous rumor
• 1:36:35
  you ever heard about yourself? Oh my God.
• 1:36:37
  I can't even repeat it. You better figure it out.
• 1:36:46
  You played the flip fifth. You can say that he the fan.
• 1:36:50
  Well yeah it's just gonna Lucky's bathroom wall.
• 1:36:55
  Some people. I had the mind of a someone that
• 1:37:04
  was seasoned and so like, you know, I had some fun then people
• 1:37:08
  write about another one that's just cold.
• 1:37:13
  Okay perfect. Okay.
• 1:37:15
  What was the worst haircut you ever?
• 1:37:17
  Had got a rat tail. My sister's been trying to grow
• 1:37:24
  one for riding fucking do it. Kitty don't fucking bitch the
• 1:37:31
  80s man I'm just like I had to suffer through mullets and now
• 1:37:35
  motherfuckers doing that shit on purpose.
• 1:37:38
  Okay can I say this real quick? Yeah.
• 1:37:39
  Katie when you first sent me that image of you bleaching your
• 1:37:42
  hair and you said that you look Korean oh I love to so hard
• 1:37:45
  because I didn't realize that you intentionally didn't.
• 1:37:49
  I was like I'm so sorry you're looking great.
• 1:37:53
  She look is yellow but she was gonna tone it.
• 1:37:55
  You guys I got your back. Katie, I got your back.
• 1:37:58
  I got your back. I haven't even seen this and
• 1:38:00
  that's my sister. Oh my God.
• 1:38:03
  Whatever, she's trying to go rat tail.
• 1:38:05
  So yeah. Yeah, she's out of it.
• 1:38:07
  I skipped a moment when I skipped the achy-breaky.
• 1:38:10
  Big mistake, e, if you could eat only one food for the rest of
• 1:38:16
  your life, what it would be like.
• 1:38:17
  Oh, so you're right. What was the worst thing you
• 1:38:20
  ever eaten? So I was telling Dusty this on
• 1:38:25
  the patio that I used to do this podcast and we was the same.
• 1:38:30
  It was like we did the segment where we ate gross shit and it
• 1:38:35
  was never never. It was a Malaysian bird nest.
• 1:38:39
  Drink, what bird nest? It was like made from something
• 1:38:43
  pressed through bird's nest and I'm like, what is that?
• 1:38:46
  It was horrible sticks and twigs.
• 1:38:47
  Yeah, it was gross, whatever it was some kind, they put it on
• 1:38:51
  there. If you could switch lives with
• 1:38:54
  anyone for a day, who would be and why?
• 1:38:59
  If I could switch, you can see me.
• 1:39:00
  I'm not, I know some of these questions are a little hard,
• 1:39:08
  Ellen Degeneres, and the Ellen's pretty funny.
• 1:39:11
  I would love to be on her her $14.25 day, Christmas countdown.
• 1:39:15
  There you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:39:19
  Have you ever broken a bone? I have not good for you.
• 1:39:22
  Christine. If you could be any animal for a
• 1:39:25
  day, what will you choose a bear?
• 1:39:28
  A Cuda was the funniest joke you ever
• 1:39:41
  heard but and know my heart. I thought about texting this one
• 1:39:48
  to you because I was like I would not know how to answer
• 1:39:50
  that. I'm okay.
• 1:39:50
  What do you call? What do you got?
• 1:39:53
  What looks like a dad joke. Sorry.
• 1:39:54
  Okay what what? What do you call a black guy
• 1:39:57
  that flies a plane. A pilot you racist.
• 1:40:00
  Fuck. That was the most embarrassing
• 1:40:26
  thing you ever happened to you on a date on a date.
• 1:40:34
  What's the most embarrassing thing that ever happened to me?
• 1:40:38
  So right after I got a divorce, my first like online dating
• 1:40:41
  experience was as gal. That was a little bit older than
• 1:40:43
  me, took her to the Monarch is the first time anyone saw me out
• 1:40:46
  without my ex-wife and she got drunk off of one.
• 1:40:49
  Glass. Of wine was all over me.
• 1:40:52
  And it was, it was bad, it was just like stumbling drunk trying
• 1:40:58
  to make out with me at the table and everyone was like, what the
• 1:41:00
  hell, you know, that kind of thing.
• 1:41:02
  So fucking sloppy, drunk, sloppy drunk, and you can pick three
• 1:41:06
  songs for your life Anthem. What would it be?
• 1:41:08
  Hmm? Okay.
• 1:41:12
  It would be serious. Inner City Blues by Marvin Gaye.
• 1:41:22
  Write that down. Good day.
• 1:41:24
  Bye Ice Cube. Oh, yeah.
• 1:41:30
  And party hard by Andrew w.k. Fuck everybody.
• 1:41:32
  I love it. When you talk shit on, it will
• 1:41:36
  take you outside. Fight you myself.
• 1:41:41
  Well Alex, thank you so much for an thank you guys.
• 1:41:44
  I really I really appreciate it. We appreciate everything for you
• 1:41:48
  for you. I everything you've.
• 1:41:50
  I think I'm drunk. We have that some shots.
• 1:41:54
  Can you take over? No seriously we do really
• 1:41:58
  appreciate you coming on the show.
• 1:41:59
  This was amazing. Thank you for playing with our
• 1:42:02
  lightning round for sharing. Your experience with us for
• 1:42:05
  bringing awesome experiences to Wichita for continuing to think
• 1:42:09
  about how you can please yourself.
• 1:42:11
  Yes, those around you, your family.
• 1:42:13
  Also, don't forget the little people and for sharing all your
• 1:42:17
  funny dumb stories with, oh, thank you.
• 1:42:18
  God and taking shots with us because we love a good time.
• 1:42:21
  Oh, yeah. Pretty good time.
• 1:42:22
  Thank you for having me. I really do appreciate it.
• 1:42:24
  Cheers! Outdoor with some of the races,
• 1:42:39
  huh? Is gonna be the day that they're
• 1:42:43
  gonna throw it back to you. You by now you should've somehow
• 1:42:48
  realized what you gotta do? I don't believe that anybody
• 1:42:54
  feels the way I do about you now.
• 1:42:45
  You by now you should've somehow realized what you gotta do?
• 1:42:51
  I don't believe that anybody feels the way I do about you
• 1:42:56
  now.