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- 0:00Hello and welcome back to Hydroponics Daily, your go-to podcast for everything
- 0:05soilless cultivation. I'm your host, Dr.
- 0:07Russell Sharp, and I come to you live from a lock in Scotland.
- 0:12A very beautiful lock in the highlands of Scotland, and normally I would be
- 0:19indoors to record a podcast, but I'm in my car because last night I stayed in
- 0:24the world's worst hotel,
- 0:25quite unbelievably glad.
- 0:28So I was planning on recording a couple of podcasts, but that was quickly put out the window.
- 0:32So I'm now taking five minutes away from a wedding in the Scottish Highlands,
- 0:36just because I don't want to miss my target of recording a podcast episode every day in 2025.
- 0:42So yes, this is Hydroponics Daily.
- 0:46And I thought I'd do the podcast on some breaking news in hydroponics,
- 0:49particularly vertical farming.
- 0:52And that is that the company Vertical Future has,
- 0:55well, I don't know if there were, I always get a bit
- 0:58confused on this like filing for bankruptcy or or
- 1:02whether something's gone insolvent or is in administration things like
- 1:05this but basically it's you have to be careful with this because you're
- 1:08never quite sure whether someone's very litigious something like that
- 1:11but basically vertical future has is for
- 1:13sale and through bankruptcy proceedings so
- 1:18it's joined a long list of indoor ag startups that declared bankruptcy
- 1:21or shuttered operations in the last few years including
- 1:25in farm freight farm so there's
- 1:27the and you know one-time unicorns
- 1:31bowery and plenty so this
- 1:35is another big failure in
- 1:38the in the vertical farming sector there are still a number of companies still
- 1:44operating in there and hopefully with less competition they can be increase
- 1:49their profitability and so it's not the death knell of vertical farming companies
- 1:54like grow up in the uk they're very profitable they've got a focus on using.
- 1:59Regenerate renewable energy for the production of
- 2:02the aggie veg apologies for that noise that's just my bobblehead
- 2:05king charles that has fallen off my dashboard
- 2:09i tried to keep it from constantly bobbling
- 2:12and it's decided to stop just to fall off yeah so
- 2:15vertical future has has is for sale
- 2:19through bankruptcy it's made a massive loss it's made 10 million pounds loss
- 2:23for or 13 million pounds loss for 800 grand revenue or something like this so
- 2:30it wasn't it was losing a lot of money it did have a uk government grant from
- 2:34the uk space agency yes we do have a space agency
- 2:38and they don't have any rockets but we've got a space agency and they had a
- 2:41£1.5 million grant to look at food production in space and so not sure what's
- 2:46going to happen with that project.
- 2:48And so I'll probably do another episode about food production and hydroponics
- 2:53in space because that's a good interesting topic to discuss.
- 2:55But yeah, it's an interesting developing story. What will happen with all the materials?
- 3:01Who knows? Whether it might be sold and it might be bought by a competitor.
- 3:05They have their own inbuilt software that all the farms are run on.
- 3:10So potentially there's sale of IP. but also
- 3:13there's the added complication if they're not using generic software
- 3:16and generic systems that perhaps it'd be
- 3:19hard for a competitor to buy them so vertical future
- 3:22one of the really big players it's really upsetting from a
- 3:24uk perspective because having been in holland for.
- 3:27The last few weeks and when you go to green tech and
- 3:30things like this i get really jealous of the dutch and even
- 3:34other smaller european countries who
- 3:37have a very thriving corticultural sector and there's
- 3:40no reason the uk shouldn't and failures like
- 3:44this only set us back further and you
- 3:47know the the whole dutch horticulture sector
- 3:50was set up to feed britain with high value
- 3:53vegetables and fruits and flowers after the
- 3:56industrial revolution if you go there and we go to like the westerns
- 3:59museum you'll see that you know they did the horticulture
- 4:04industry wasn't set up for german exports french exports
- 4:07it was set up just for supply in england same with
- 4:10britney and the whole of britney their onions and vegetable
- 4:13production that was all set up for supply in england so we should
- 4:17be able to be self-sufficient we have the land we have
- 4:19the resources we have the technology but for some reason
- 4:22it's just not working out and so this is another failure for uk horticulture
- 4:27in general not just vertical farming so no one should be jumping with joy to
- 4:32see vertical futures up for sale and making massive losses but vertical farming
- 4:37if it goes wrong it tends to go wrong dramatically people do make massive losses um.
- 4:43They're highly leveraged companies because they get investment from the city
- 4:46of London or Wall Street.
- 4:48And as Charlie Munger would say from Berkshire Hathaway, three things that will
- 4:53kill a company or kill a person's business, ladies, liquor, and leverage.
- 4:59And when it comes to leafy greens and things like this, I always say it's very low margin product.
- 5:06So you have to make sure you're profitable and massive scale.
- 5:09So if you've learned anything from Hydroponics Daily,
- 5:12listen to hydroponics daily i always recommend if you're going to start a
- 5:15hydroponics company always start with something very highly
- 5:18profitable that you know there is a market for
- 5:21and is a niche and you can develop your
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- 5:27so you've got to have an ability to do something really
- 5:30difficult that no one else can do easily so
- 5:34say you found there was a market for you know
- 5:37celery that had three leaves for example then
- 5:40if anyone else could go and do that you're yes it might be highly profitable
- 5:44for the first six months or so but if someone else can come and do it straight
- 5:47away then then your long-term profitability is not going to be good so yeah
- 5:53don't start hydroponic businesses working on leafy veg would be my first.
- 5:59Piece of advice for anyone getting into hydroponics always choose something very
- 6:02very not niche but highly profitable and something
- 6:05you can protect with something there's a real challenge behind
- 6:07its production so things like we talked about peonies in the
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- 7:21to get back to this wedding now it's a lovely lock it's
- 7:25uh haven't seen nessie yet or any monsters and i'm.
- 7:28Off back to glasgow tonight to stay in a premier inn
- 7:31hotel that i know will be a good quality and
- 7:34won't have vomit on the stairs won't have
- 7:38people random people trying to get into the room at two o'clock in
- 7:40the morning and will be a family room rather
- 7:43than a tiny tiny room so yeah let's get
- 7:46back to normality and better audio quality tomorrow thank
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