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Bachelor Buffet with DeAnna Pappas · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with IR Radio. Hello everyone, I love you so much.
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  Speaker 1: I'm most saying those listeners. I had to be here
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  Speaker 1: three weeks by myself, three weeks postpartum by myself, because
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  Speaker 1: I have to talked about the Bachelor that much. No,
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  Speaker 1: but honestly, this episode, there's a lot to break down
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  Speaker 1: and I am going to be doing it today with
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  Speaker 1: Deanna pappis Um the fourth Bachelorette, because Ben is off
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  Speaker 1: on one of his adventures. You guys, he has so
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  Speaker 1: many adventures lately. I think he's in Honduras now. He's
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  Speaker 1: going to Israel later this month. So we're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fillins, but we love them and we'll
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  Speaker 1: miss Ben. Dianna, Hello, welcome back to the podcast. We
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  Speaker 1: love having you here. It's so funny. We should have
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  Speaker 1: been recording, um this whole conversation because it was a
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  Speaker 1: nice catch up for the last ten minutes, because I
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  Speaker 1: can't even believe you're sitting up straight and that you
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  Speaker 1: still look as beautiful as ever with a three week old.
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  Speaker 1: You're very sweet. Uh. We were talking about being averted
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  Speaker 1: to water during our pregnancies and how the first one
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  Speaker 1: tends to be easier than than the second one. And
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  Speaker 1: oh things that you know, it's like so funny, like
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  Speaker 1: the mommy life really is like you could talk about
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  Speaker 1: it for hours. It's just kind of like how you
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  Speaker 1: could talk about single life for hours when you're single. Right,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that I remember ever doing that. You
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  Speaker 1: never talked about like just like I made that someone
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  Speaker 1: like dating so horrible and I last date this my
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  Speaker 1: last date that you But I really didn't date a lot, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So I um, I have my own podcast with a
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  Speaker 1: girlfriend of mine called Flashbacks, and we just recorded on Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: and we were having the same conversation because I was
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  Speaker 1: on The Bachelor and Bachelortte every as everybody knows. But
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  Speaker 1: she was on she did playboy um early on when
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  Speaker 1: she was like eighteen, and then she met her husband
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  Speaker 1: when she was twenty one years old, so she really
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  Speaker 1: didn't date a lot either. And I heard her recording
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  Speaker 1: an episode and I was saying, oh, I'm not I
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  Speaker 1: didn't date a lot, Like I'm not like a habitual dater,
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  Speaker 1: and she seriously looked at me and she was like,
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  Speaker 1: you went on a television show and dated twenty five
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  Speaker 1: guys at one time, and I was like, right, you're
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  Speaker 1: like I made up for all of the not dating
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  Speaker 1: by dating real quick. So I feel silly though, because
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  Speaker 1: a lot of times we'll talk about like I don't
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  Speaker 1: know past dates or funny stories or something that happened
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  Speaker 1: like in l A or whatever. And uh, most of
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  Speaker 1: my like bad dates came from being on the Bachelorette
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  Speaker 1: because I just didn't date a lot beforehand. I was
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  Speaker 1: like always a relationship person, so like, I dated the
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  Speaker 1: same guy all throughout high school until I termed like
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  Speaker 1: twenty almost twenty one years old, and then after that
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  Speaker 1: I dated another guy that I knew from my hometown
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  Speaker 1: for like three years, and then I went on the Bachelor,
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  Speaker 1: So like, I really just didn't I didn't like dating,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't. I say this all the time. I
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  Speaker 1: don't envy people now who date. No, Oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: it's the worst. I don't understand people who say that
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  Speaker 1: they like enjoy dating, like the enjoyment of the first
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  Speaker 1: or second date. I just said the same thing. That awkward,
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  Speaker 1: that awkward conversation where you have to try to get
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  Speaker 1: to know someone, or like, so tell me about your
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  Speaker 1: mom and sister, like things that you just don't like
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  Speaker 1: you have to feel like you have to awkwardly get
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  Speaker 1: to know someone, and I guess like on them, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when you're on the Bachelor and the Bachelorette. Also, I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't do it these days either. Watching the episode, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, this is almost painful. Do you think that's
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  Speaker 1: an age thing or do you think that's like a
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  Speaker 1: modern Bachelor thing? Because for me, I think there's such
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  Speaker 1: a big difference between being and your twenties on the
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  Speaker 1: show and being on your thirties, because in your thirties
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  Speaker 1: all you do is like crave comfort, and then in
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  Speaker 1: your twenties you like crave that Adreadnaline rush. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think i'd have the stamina in my thirties to do
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  Speaker 1: the show. When I last did it, I was just
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  Speaker 1: on the cusp. I was twenty nine. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: well I was twenty. I think I had just turned
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  Speaker 1: twenty five when I did The Bachelor, and then I
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  Speaker 1: did I was twenty six, I think when I was
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  Speaker 1: the Bachelorette, so that was young, right, Like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: I think about how I met Stephen when I was
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  Speaker 1: twenty six years old. I was a mess, dude. No
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  Speaker 1: wonder I wasn't married, And you know, I think back
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  Speaker 1: to my time on the show. I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: can't believe I chose that guy. Um, but you're just
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  Speaker 1: a mess in your mid twenties. You don't know what
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  Speaker 1: you want, you don't know who you are. So now
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  Speaker 1: that I am so much older, I turned forty a
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  Speaker 1: few months ago. Sometimes I laughed when watching the show
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  Speaker 1: because the girls are like twenty two three years old,
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  Speaker 1: and I think I remember myself at twenty two three
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  Speaker 1: years old. No way was I ever ready to like
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  Speaker 1: get married, start a family for at the least, or
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  Speaker 1: like be in like a significant, like committed relationship that
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  Speaker 1: was leading toward marriage. But did you think that you were,
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  Speaker 1: Because when I was, yeah, I was like, I'm so ready.
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  Speaker 1: I just can't wait to be a wife and a mom.
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  Speaker 1: That's gonna be so great. But then you don't realize
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  Speaker 1: how not ready you were until you are of a
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  Speaker 1: certain age. So let's skip ahead and talk about Sarah
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  Speaker 1: and Mara. Because Sarah is twenty three thinks she's ready.
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  Speaker 1: We're all watching her and being like, now, girl, you're not.
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  Speaker 1: And Mara at thirty two probably has like a better
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  Speaker 1: grasp on the fact that Sarah is not ready than
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  Speaker 1: Sarah is herself. Um, but what do you think that
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  Speaker 1: whole situation between Sarah and Mara, Because I do think
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  Speaker 1: mar is way dramatic and did not approach it correctly.
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  Speaker 1: I also think she was well. I also think Sarah
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  Speaker 1: didn't either. No, I mean neither of them did. Marris
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  Speaker 1: seemed maybe a little drunk during that confrontation. I these fees.
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  Speaker 1: This is where I struggle watching the show now because
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  Speaker 1: this tends to make like my skin curl, Like I
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  Speaker 1: get so uncomfortable in situations like this and watching the
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  Speaker 1: women ab pin against each other like this and be
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  Speaker 1: it just makes me feel weird when women argue over
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  Speaker 1: a guy. And I remember not ever like even being
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  Speaker 1: comfortable with that when I was on the Bachelor, Like
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  Speaker 1: I just felt really weird about it, like, well, I
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  Speaker 1: know he loves me and you're going home, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Like I just it makes my skin crawl. So the
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  Speaker 1: entire situation made me super uncomfortable. And even when Sarah
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  Speaker 1: came home though to the ladies and was like, so
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  Speaker 1: I know that one of you put this into his ear,
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  Speaker 1: but like Jess, you know we're going to ride off
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  Speaker 1: into the Sunset and live happily ever after. Sorry, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I just was like it felt really petty to me,
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  Speaker 1: and it felt really like I just was really uncomfortable
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  Speaker 1: with the entire thing, super uncomfortable. We come to know that.
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  Speaker 1: I guess we could get into it. Let's get into
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  Speaker 1: this later. We'll do a real recap. I just wanted
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  Speaker 1: to mention that, brisly because we were talking about age.
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  Speaker 1: But there was a headline that came out pertaining to
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  Speaker 1: you last week and I had got together on it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you really often. Yeah, that Chrystal Stouse from Selling Sunset
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  Speaker 1: said that she was supposed to be the bachelorette in
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  Speaker 1: your place, but because Ellen Ellen de Generous was such
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  Speaker 1: an advocate for you to become the bachelor at you
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  Speaker 1: became it because all the fans rallied with UM. I
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  Speaker 1: did not hear this last week. I'm far too busy.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't have time for things. I but I
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  Speaker 1: have heard this rumor a lot over the years, um,
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  Speaker 1: And really I heard it because, well, Graham Bunn was
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  Speaker 1: on my season and he's the only guy that I
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  Speaker 1: actually genuinely liked on the show. UM, and what he
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  Speaker 1: had shared with me afterwards because we stayed friends for
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  Speaker 1: a long time. He had shared that he only went
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  Speaker 1: on the show because he had been told that Chrischell
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  Speaker 1: was going to be the Bachelorette because they dated briefly
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  Speaker 1: before the show. They dated briefly and then they broke
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  Speaker 1: up or something because she was telling him that she
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  Speaker 1: was going to go on the show. So that I
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  Speaker 1: believe is why, if I'm remembering this correctly, he applied
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  Speaker 1: because he thought Chris Shell was going to be the Bachelorette.
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  Speaker 1: He wanted to win her over. That would have been
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  Speaker 1: a great storyline. Well, apparently he was supposed to very
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  Speaker 1: much to be I think that it said that she
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  Speaker 1: even like signed the contract, which you know is yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but we all did, now did I was saying this
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  Speaker 1: to someone else. They do that, they like they I
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  Speaker 1: distinctly remember when I was done on The Bachelor, the
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  Speaker 1: producers calling a week later and being like, hey, would
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  Speaker 1: you be interested in being the Bachelorette. They didn't flat
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  Speaker 1: out asked me, but I was like, yeah, I would
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  Speaker 1: totally consider it, And they sent contracts over right away,
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  Speaker 1: and they were very honest where they said, just so
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  Speaker 1: you know, we are considering several people and I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I just I never thought they would choose me. But
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  Speaker 1: then I also was like, well, why wouldn't they. I
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  Speaker 1: just spent this time on the show. Everyone has invested
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  Speaker 1: in my story. This dude chose not to pick anyone.
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  Speaker 1: It would be weird to bring someone else. But I
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  Speaker 1: think they do that every season. And you know this
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  Speaker 1: as well, actually that they consider several people. They probably
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  Speaker 1: have ten contracts out of women who signed them. I
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  Speaker 1: was gonna say there's at least three signed for sure,
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  Speaker 1: and they picked. So that's not a huge deal that
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  Speaker 1: she was signed or anything. But she made it seem
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  Speaker 1: last week like she was picked and that all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden Ellen said this or that, and then you
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  Speaker 1: came swooping in stealing her spot. Would just look at that.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't all my Children actress, which is why she
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  Speaker 1: wasn't completely random to the ABC audience. But I still think, well,
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  Speaker 1: and I also feel like at that time, no one
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  Speaker 1: really knew who she was. That's why it doesn't seem
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  Speaker 1: like a bold choice to make her the Bachelor. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying that there's not true to her story. I
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  Speaker 1: don't really know, and I don't know Chris Shell We've
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  Speaker 1: never had a conversation. We've never talked about it. I
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  Speaker 1: only know what Graham shared with me afterwards. Um. Do
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  Speaker 1: I think that Ellen de Generes called and and that's
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  Speaker 1: how I became the Bachelorette. I think she's a fan
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  Speaker 1: of the show. Like I think that they were like,
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  Speaker 1: oh cool, we'll announce it on Ellen. But I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that she was like, that's it. I'm Ellen de
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  Speaker 1: Generous and Diana is going to be the Bachelorette. Like No,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that that is how that worked. But
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  Speaker 1: I think and I know because producers said to me
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  Speaker 1: that at the time, I think they were considering five women,
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  Speaker 1: is what they told me. They were like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're looking at you, and there's like four other women
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  Speaker 1: that we are having talks about, and we have to
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  Speaker 1: get network approval. So I don't know that it was
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  Speaker 1: necessarily like a done deal for her, because it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: a done deal for me. Everyone signed the contract. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know it was a done deal until I appeared
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  Speaker 1: on the Ellen de general show for the second time
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  Speaker 1: and she was like I remember going back into her
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  Speaker 1: green room and her saying like, I watched your season,
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  Speaker 1: like I was devastated. I really wanted them to pick
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  Speaker 1: you as the bachelorette. But she didn't say And it
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  Speaker 1: was just me and her. She didn't have to lie.
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  Speaker 1: No one was in there. They weren't recording us. I
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  Speaker 1: was in her green room and she was talking to
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  Speaker 1: me as if I was no one like she just
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  Speaker 1: as a fan of the show. And I remember her
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  Speaker 1: saying like, I could not believe this happened to you,
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  Speaker 1: Like I was hoping that they would make you the bachelorette.
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  Speaker 1: She never said, Hey, I made the call. I called
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  Speaker 1: the ABC execs, and I got this done for you.
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  Speaker 1: Like it wasn't like that. He didn't make it seem
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  Speaker 1: She's not saying. Ellen's not saying that at all. What
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  Speaker 1: she what What she is saying is that Ellen was
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  Speaker 1: at a fan that she got like Bachelor Nation behind
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  Speaker 1: you heavily. But I have to now, Rachelor Nason wasn't
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  Speaker 1: even a thing back then. You actually sat in the
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  Speaker 1: green room with Ellen. That's how much you liked you,
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  Speaker 1: Because I don't think she hangs with about Bachelor contestants
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  Speaker 1: and the green her anymore. No, she was super cool.
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  Speaker 1: It was it was like, honestly, well, I mean you
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  Speaker 1: know this. You've done a ton of stuff for the show.
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  Speaker 1: But I have like certain favorite memories that I take
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  Speaker 1: away from the show because again, uh, social media has
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  Speaker 1: really changed, um the show, I believe, and what it
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  Speaker 1: is now and the popularity of it all with Instagram
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  Speaker 1: and and you know, tich talk and everything else. The
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  Speaker 1: show is completely different now. Like back then, you just
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  Speaker 1: went on the show and then you went back to
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  Speaker 1: real life. I I die actually because I remember having
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  Speaker 1: this conversation with another contestant, maybe a couple of seasons
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  Speaker 1: after my season of The Bachelorette, and again I like
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  Speaker 1: accepted opportunities, but I went back to my real job,
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  Speaker 1: like I went back to my normal life. And I
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  Speaker 1: remember this girl telling me and she didn't make it
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  Speaker 1: very far like maybe hometowns or something like that, and
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  Speaker 1: I remember her saying to me, well, what do I
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  Speaker 1: do now, Like I'm not I can't go back to
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  Speaker 1: my normal job. I'm a celebrity. And I was looking
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  Speaker 1: at her and I was like, the world are we
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  Speaker 1: living in? Like what what do you Why can't you
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  Speaker 1: go back to your job? Like do you think you're
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  Speaker 1: Like it's just weird. So it's super cringe went Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: contestants call themselves celebrities. Yeah, and not like you can't
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  Speaker 1: like have great opportunities, like absolutely live the dream, because
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  Speaker 1: I am here to tell you that that fifteen minutes
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  Speaker 1: does go away and you'll be like, okay, here I am.
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  Speaker 1: And I have to have a real job because I
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  Speaker 1: have a family and I've got to make money. But like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that people. I just don't think that
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  Speaker 1: Ellen had that big of an influence on the show
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  Speaker 1: as people think she did. And I think Krischell is
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  Speaker 1: also trying to sell books. She's this this did come
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  Speaker 1: out of her book, right, right, She's not stupid. She's
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  Speaker 1: trying to make and she stays in the limelight for
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  Speaker 1: a reason and people like her. I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: much validity there is to her story, but I know
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  Speaker 1: my story, and I think because Ellen took such an
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  Speaker 1: interest in the show at the time, that helped with
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  Speaker 1: that season. It made my season of the Bachelorette be
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  Speaker 1: so popular because then we filmed one episode in the
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  Speaker 1: studio with Ellen and in the audience, you know. So
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  Speaker 1: it was because she was such a fan and wanted
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  Speaker 1: my story to continue to play out. They really milked
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  Speaker 1: that you know, they were able to use that and
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  Speaker 1: use the popularity of Ellen and her favorite in the show,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and I would imagine, I mean, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: an idiot, but like ABC executives probably saw the dollar
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  Speaker 1: signs in that versus taking someone who had never been
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  Speaker 1: on the show before and making them the Bachelorette and
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  Speaker 1: just hope it does well. Well. That's kind of what
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: we've seen in the past, to see well pastor Bachelor seasons.
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  Speaker 1: With Matt he was like a random pick. And then
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  Speaker 1: I almost want to say Layton was a random pick
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  Speaker 1: because he had like ten minutes of airtime back on
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  Speaker 1: the show. Season you are, you have such great opinions.
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  Speaker 1: I've got to know. What's a year theory behind the
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  Speaker 1: ratings drops? Is it Chris Harrison? Is it burnout man?
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  Speaker 1: All right? I think there's several things. So I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna lie I don't watch the show anymore because I
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: just don't enjoy it. You're one of those people now
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  Speaker 1: we haven't I am. I am so. I actually had
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  Speaker 1: never seen the show before I was on it. Ashley
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  Speaker 1: and I have always said to when they came out
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  Speaker 1: with like Bachelor pad uh, Bachelor in Paradise, Like, those
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  Speaker 1: are my favorite shows because A like that we've already
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  Speaker 1: seen you guys on a different season, so I feel
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  Speaker 1: like we know you. And also I just feel like
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  Speaker 1: the storylines are a little better on some of those
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  Speaker 1: shows versus on The Bachelor or The Bachelor. I mean, I'm,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a little biased here because my time came
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  Speaker 1: from the spin off shows, but like, Paradise is better,
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  Speaker 1: it is better. You are right. I will absolutely sit
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  Speaker 1: down and watch like Paradise. I do really enjoy that one.
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  Speaker 1: But sometimes it is just gut wrenching for me to
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: sit down and watch The Bachelor and The Bachelorred. I
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: enjoyed the shows for doing so for this recap show today,
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  Speaker 1: but you know what I was, I'm not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 1: I was watching it and I was like totally fast
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  Speaker 1: boring because I was like boring, boring, boring, boring, And
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  Speaker 1: I would imagine that I am like the masses of
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  Speaker 1: the people who are watching the show right now, because
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  Speaker 1: A we didn't really get to know um Clayton right
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know the decision to make him the Bachelor.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure what that was there. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if it's because maybe he was cheaper. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't get paid to do the show. Um, and
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  Speaker 1: so I'm always amazed at the amount of money people
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  Speaker 1: make nowadays again at all, not even like a little
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  Speaker 1: stupid free I mean, did it okay? So what I
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  Speaker 1: did get they paid obviously, because I had to give
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  Speaker 1: up like four or five months of my life. I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't work, I couldn't do anything. They didn't write me
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: a paycheck, but they said, what do you need to
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: survive during that perfect time because we need to We're
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: gonna pretty much have you out of your home and
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: your job for four months. And then even after we
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: were done filming, did the respress and everything else. So um,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: they paid my mortgage, my car payment. And I lived
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: in Georgia. Actually my mortgage was like a thousand bucks
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: a month Marietta, yeah, no, just south of Atlanta. I
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: was from uh Newton, Georgia. It's a small town town
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: outside of the city. And I bought my first house
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: when I was like twenty three years old, and my
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: mortgage was seriously like a thousand bucks, so that I
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: think they wrote me a check each month for like
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: and you don't know me very well, but I am
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: such a brutally honest human being, Like I seers lead
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: down to the dollar added up what my monthly bills?
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Were you a sweet soul? I don't know if I'm
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: a sweet soul, but I think that they literally I
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: said this when we were recording flashbacks the other day.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: I said it to Jessica. I was like, I think
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: they probably looked at me, were like, we're gonna make
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: so much money off of this check, like because I
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: just was that honest, you know. Some I remember hearing
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: some of the other ladies say that like oh, they
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: got a massage every single day, or like they demanded
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: that they only drink crystal or like teeth or boobs
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: or whatever it was. And I seriously was just like, no,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, my mortgage is this much, my car payment
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: is this much, and I have like one credit card,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: so like Bucks a month should be sufficient. So I
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: think in the four months they wrote me a check
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: for like ten thousand dollars because I got Bucks a month,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: because they paid my mortgage it had to be paid
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: and I wasn't working, and my car payment which had
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: to be paid, and then that was about it. I
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: didn't make any more money off of that. For the
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: audience know that I'm okay, I'm just speaking out of
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: what they is, like the rumors about how the leads
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: get paid. We could actually ask Ben how it really
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: goes when he's back. But I do believe that the
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: salary that the lead makes is usually comparable to the
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: money that they would lose from their job gone that long.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Is that she's nodding, I think that's probably right. I
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: think each person individually negotiates that I just I just
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: didn't And honestly, this probably goes back to what Chrishell
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: is saying. When they had me sign my contract, they
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: probably saw dollar signs because I didn't ask for anything.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I didn't demand anything, I didn't ask for anything extra.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I wasn't like I need all white candles in my room,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: like yeah no, And I'm well, a, I'm just not
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: like that in my normal life in general. Like I
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: I'm not a greedy person. I am very gracious, I
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: am compassionate. I just think like when I got the opportunity,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: and I always feel really silly now saying it, actually,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: but like I truly just believe that that was my path,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: that was where I was supposed to be and I
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: wasn't going to be this person who demanded all of
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: these extra things because that's just not who I am
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: in general. So to be honest, they they probably took
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: my contract and compared it to other women's contracts. We're like, well,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: we're gonna make four hundred billion dollars if heard because
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: it doesn't want anything, So why would we choose anyone else?
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: You know, I would have done a very similar thing.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I think, like people who ask for like a couple
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: of hundred extra dollars more a day for paradise. Just
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: like you guys, you'll make it back. I mean, like
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: so much teeth whitter on Instagram. You're gonna be okay,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: You're gonna be fine. Don't like get on the bad
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: side of production. Take the opportunity for what it is.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Take the opportunity for what it is. You know what
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: I mean? Your life will forever change, It will forever
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: be different, and you don't know what you're going to
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: get out of it. I mean, look at you right,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: you are marriage, you have a family. I think the
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: same thing. Had I not gone on the show, I
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: would have never ever met Michael and become friends with him,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: and in turn, I would have never met Stephen and
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: and now we've been married over ten years and two
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: kids later. Like, I just believe that there is a path.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I don't believe in like coincidence because I'm a Christian,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: but like I believe there is the right path for me,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: and going on the show led me to a certain path.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: And like, I have a really great life. I have
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: a very blessed life. And some of that is because
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: of the Bachelor and the Bachelorette, but like a lot
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: of it is, not a lot of it is because
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I believe that I am where I am supposed to be.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: And it's not always been really easy, like we have
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: difficult times. But yeah, just why why you're a dime
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: a dozen exactly, Just like don't rattle anything. Your experience
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: is going to be way more worth and what you
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: get out of it, you know, marriage, children, all that
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: is going to be like way more valuable than a
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: couple extra hundred dollars a day. Uh. And one of
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: the things that I always suggest to people when they're like, oh,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: like you know, how do I get on a path
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: like you did after the show, I'm like, you have
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: to do a lot of things for free, I did
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: That's Hollywood for free for years and years. But I'm like,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I just appreciated the platform anyway. I did so much
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: stuff for extra and access Wood and all these people,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: and I never got paid e News. Anytime they called
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: and wanted me to come in, I literally just looked
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: at it like, this is a great opportunity. If it
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: leads somewhere, cool, if I get paid. Even still, like
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: now to this day, if there's a paycheck to come
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: along with things, I'm like, oh, this is a nice bonus.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: I didn't expect that, but like, yeah, you're gonna get
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: really great opportunities. And even the people were going on
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: the show now it's amazing. I know I said this
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: before what social media does, but some of these girls
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: that go home on night one, and you know this,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: You've been on the show back in the day. When
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: you went home on night one, no one remembered you
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: by the next week. And now these girls are going
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: home on night one with two hundred thousand followers, and
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: they're also never getting real jobs ever. Again, you know,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: things are changing. The following is going down a lot.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: People are getting way way less follows from being on
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: the show. So people are going to have to start
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: going on the show now for just love again. I
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: think that the original question that you asked was right.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I think I think you're right. There is a number
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: of things. I think it's Chris Harrison. Yeah, I think
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: we're you know, no one really wants to talk about it,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: but there's a culture where whatever it was that happened
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: right that he was held accountable for it. But there
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: is another part of the audience who watches the show
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: that we're really pissed that Chris got let go. There
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: was a part of our aut i'd say the vast majority, yeah,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: who loved Chris Harrison. And Chris personally, he's a good dude,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: you know, He's always been kind and respectful. And when
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I was on the show, he and his family had
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: me over for dinner, like took me under his wing.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I only had a PR person because he introduced me
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: to his PR people and was like, you will have
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: these opportunities, like be smart, but like, you know, stay
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: true to who you are. You know, Chris was always
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: really great to me. So I think there's several things
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: that are contributing to the lack of viewer ship with
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: the show. And I think Chris being one of them.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: You know, I think those are these shoes that will
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: never be able to be filled, and then I believe
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Also there was a lot of backlash when Clayton was
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: chosen as the Bachelor, Like people were like, first off,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: who is he? They didn't know who he was, and
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: second off, I just don't know that he has carried
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: the season. Well that's the thing, Like if he was
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: going to surprise us and be this awesome personality and
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: this guy that like we get to know and we
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: realized just like what a catch he is and like
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: yeah he Oh my god, I totally understand why these
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: women are just fawning. It seems like a totally nice guy,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: but still no one that I'm going to go to
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: bed thinking about. Yeah. I mean he's good looking. He's
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: good looking. I just I tried the first episode and
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I kind of was like, I want to be like
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: blown away. If I'm going to watch a show, I
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: don't care if it's a Bachelor or whatever it is.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I want to be blown away in the first episode
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: and feel like I'm hooked, like I need to see
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: the second episode. And honestly, when I watched the first episode,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I turned it off. I was like, I can't, I
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: cannot stomach this. It's just and no wonder they try
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: to create so much drama with the girls now because
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: if the lead can't carry the show and it's nothing
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I've I honestly feel bad for him. I think he's
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: probably a really good dude, and I think, yeah, me too.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: He likes to eat a lot of chicken. I think
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: he eats a lot of chicken. You think that a
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: lot of protein because he's her beefy. I think I
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: remember from one of the opening for the show, Ashley,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: they showed him or maybe I saw it on Instagram
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: and I didn't follow him because I was like I
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: can't handle that. I just can't handle He was showing
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: what he spends at Walmart for like a week's worth
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: of eating his protein. That was a lot of Oh
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: my god, it was just like it was like great value,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: like chicken, and I was like, I can't. I can't.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I like to eat too much. I can't live my
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: life like this, Like I pounded homemade bolonnais last night
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: until I almost threw up. You know, I just can't
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: live where you've got to work out all week and
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: eat so much protein, so not any carbs that that's
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: just like no, like wine, how can you not have
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: a glass of wine with the spaghetti bolon? As you know,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: when I was on the show, um, I'm from the South,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: and they took us to it was for that hometown
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: date for grand Bun. And I will say this really quickly,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: but we were is a two day part filming, and
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: so for lunch, they took the cast and crew to
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: a Golden crowl I don't know if you know what
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: that is. I've been there once. Yeah, it is a
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: buffet and nothing, nothing more than a good buffet. And
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: when they released us to get our plates, they did
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: let us sit alone together, but they were like very clear,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: like don't talk about anything. And so he went to
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: fix his plate and I went to fix mine, and
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I'll I came back to the table with like macaroni
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: and cheese, mashed potatoes and gravy, chicken fingers and ranch.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: And when I looked at his plate, actually he was
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: having a salad with double chicken and no dressing. And
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: I have this see see that would be a total
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: turn off for me. I had this distinct memory of
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: being like this is never gonna work. It's never gonna work. Exactly,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: all good looking and I like him so much, but
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: it's never gonna work. Is he judging me by my plate?
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say it because it's when I was
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: with Kevin from Bachelor Winter Games, Like, the guy liked
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: his chicken salad way too much for me to like
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: live a comparable life like. And we're not saying I'm
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: not talking about chicken salad with like seasoning and Mayo mayo. No,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: he wanted like his leafy greens with just grilled chicken
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: like for every meal. And I was like, Yeah, this
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: isn't the sign. Number one, This is not gonna This
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: is not gonna work. Jesus is speaking to me through
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: mis lunch and it's not meant to be. Okay, alright,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: So we do have to move on to our recap,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: which will be brief because Diana is not about okay,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: all right, we'll be right back after this, Okay, So
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: we cut. We started this episode with Sarah coming back
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: from her one on one. We already really kind of
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: went over this. You felt super cringe e because she
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: called out the girls, saying, one of you said something
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: about me and Mark kind of like admitted that it
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: was her, and then we'll jump to the cocktail party.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: So we have nine women left, uh and Teddy, Sarah
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: and Rachel have a rose. Um. There's like really not
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: much to say about this cocktail party. You know, I
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: keep going remember it, you know, I keep going on
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: to the different sections thinking like, oh, I'll have something
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: to input for this, and I really don't because it
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: all felt like super boring to me. I wasn't it.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Mara did pool um. So I did appreciate that part, right,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I did appreciate this, and for whatever little bit of
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: drama that it created, I will say that I thought
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: both women handle it well. They didn't become like Caddy
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: and uncomfortable. But also I appreciated Mara of saying like
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: you looked like a child coming into the cocktail party
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: and going nanny, nanny, nanny, he chooses me, you know,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: and she did. She did. I mean, I get what
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: she was doing. And I appreciated that Sarah stood up
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: for herself by saying, like, you guys ratted me out
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: to to Clayton. But then also the way she came
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: in with her rose like like like a child, And
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: so I appreciated the way Mara was just like, it
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: felt really insensitive the way you did that, and it
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: felt really silly. But then it was sad to see
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Mara gets sent home because I was like, oh girl,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: they're going to keep her around her another week. I
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: didn't do he was gonna like, we're gonna have more
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: drama between the two of them. Um. I also don't
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: understand actually why these girls don't watch the show ahead
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: of time and realized that the girl who tattles on
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: another girl never wins. Oh well, of course, it's really
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: bizarre the way that nobody catches onto this. I mean,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: and I say this having been of you were for
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: right years before being on the show, and then I
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: went and did that. I know, I forgot about that.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: You never go well that way you have just help yourself.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Depending on your personality, you can't help yourself. Um okay,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: So here are these two things that kind of stood
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: at Maris said that her over Maris said that staras
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: over confidence was not cute, which we can totally get behind.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: She also said that Sarah is sloppy, is getting sloppy
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: and it shows now. Is she referring to like her
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: being like drunk sloppy or is she talking about her
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: being like lying or her tactics or I wonder was
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: it that because I didn't quite get it. Yeah, I
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: didn't quite get it because I didn't I didn't I
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: don't know sloppy would be the right word that I
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: would describe her as. So I didn't quite get that.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I think she was just trying to get back at
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: her a little bit, because yeah, so maybe it was
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: the tactics because she came in again dragging about a
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: rose and that their solid foundation was gonna be okay.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I just didn't quite get that. We were
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: thinking at the time that this was kind of like
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: a Mara Sarah beef situation. The girls, the other girls
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: didn't really seem to be interfering at all, But then
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: later in the episode we see that like these tactics
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: that Sarah was using, which was basically just going into
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: like going to the house every time she had one
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: on one interaction with Clayton and showing off the experience
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: that she had with him. Um, that was like they
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: the girls kind of ended up thinking that was a
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: tactic to like freak them out and make them think
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: that she was number one. She was definitely being chosen
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: so that they would therefore feel less confident in their
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: connection with him. Yeah. Well, I also, um, I also
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: felt like no one said anything. It just seemed like
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: it was Mara who was saying something. And then towards
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: the end of the episode, you do see a couple
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: of the girls and their I T M s chime
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: in and say that that they felt like Sarah was
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: being braggy or that this was going to come to
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: bite her in the butt. Yeah, even that reON one
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: or I guess there's a four on one, so I
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: guess it's just a regular group. They all ended up
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: telling Clinton that they didn't trust Sarah, that they were
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: like that you they was trying to like play with
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: their brains. Um, but I wonder if they felt like
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: that the entire way through. I think they kind of did.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: I just think that, like editing wise, they wanted to
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: make it seem like it was Sarah versus Mara. Well,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: it's interesting that they chose to edit it that way
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: because I feel like every other season, when there is
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: that one girl that they're trying to pinpoint everyone against,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: they show that they show the other girls, whether they're
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: saying it too. They show it to the other girls,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: whether it's that they're saying it to her in particular,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: but they didn't show that this season until the very end. Well, yeah,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: there was like a little I know, Sarah made like
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: a little reference to it. And I always feel like
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: when you sometimes as they do this, and they did
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: this someone my seasons, which makes me like more notice more.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: They did it with one of my storylines. They added
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: like one little line in there from Rachel about Sarah,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: and then that made me go, So the other girls
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: are talking about it, but they're making it seem like
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: it's just a battle between the two of them, all right.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: So at that Rose ceremony, Eliza, who like I don't
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: really know very well and Mara get eliminated, and like
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: there's any surprises here. They move on to Vienna, Austria,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: UM where we start with the one on one with
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Susie and like I thought Susie wasn't really into Clating
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, and now I think she's
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: really into him. And I don't know whether he's more
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: into her or more into Rachel, but those are definitely
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: my top two right now. And she has the classic
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: date that we see on basically every season the fairy
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Tale date, the Cinderella date, whatever you wanna call it.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: She gets to go shopping, she looks great, and all
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: the dresses she picks out one and she gets to
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: like go to this palace and have dinner with him,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: uh everything, and then like the guy who sings a
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: lady in red is there serenading? Now it was quite
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: It was this is again. I mean on my season,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: I was ridiculous. I definitely it was a spoof. I
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: was total um satire when I sat around pretending to
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: be Cinderella left at home. But it truly is the
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: date that I wish I had experience on The Bachelor.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Anything to add about this, Piana, you know what it's
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: so funny is I felt a lot like Susie would
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: have been super uncomfortable because I am just like a
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: jeans and a teacher kind of girl, so I am
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: not into like the princess theme, so I would have
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: been really uncomfortable. But I say that I actually really
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: enjoyed this date, and I felt like it is as
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: out of character as it would be for me. I
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: I thought it was the most genuine piece of the
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: entire show. Like, I I think that Susie and you
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: feel it. Yeah, I do. Yeah, I feel like she
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: really likes him. I feel like they're going to be
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: a good fit for each other. I don't know if
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: he chooses or in the end. I just thought, well,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: they look good together too, but like it just felt
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: really genuine, even though it was like over the top,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: this princess date with all of this stuff, I um,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: and I saw that in the conversation they had that
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: night at dinner too, Like I felt like she did
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: a really good job of me, Like you know, I
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: kind of was uncomfortable. This is not kind of my vibe,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: but like, I'm really into you, and I just thought
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: that they that the chemistry was there, um, that the
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: conversation seemed to flow pretty easily between the two of them,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: and that's those are the pieces that I like about
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: the show. And it feels like forced or like overproduced.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: I don't like that. And so I think with that
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: being said, I just thought that they could be a
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: really good fit. And I didn't. I'm saying I didn't
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: think Susie had a real shot a couple of weeks ago,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: or even in the beginning. It's not that I thought
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: she was going to walk away. Yeah, I didn't think
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: she stood out to me at all, and so I
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: actually changed my mind. When I watched that date, I
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: thought they seemed to be like they could be a
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: really good fit for each other. It was cute, Okay,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: So then we go at the group date, which is
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: kind of crazy because they sit down for psychotherapy because
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: they're Anna Austria, the Home of Fluid, and they basically
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: have like a couple's counseling meeting. And the standout moments
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: are that Genevieve is so uncomfortable with therapy and crying,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: just like the act of crying and being emotional, especially
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: on camera, which is why did you sign up for
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor? Uh? That she like kind of like freezes
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: and says like I can't do this, and then he
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: walks her out. I am, well, a, I love therapy because,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: like I, Sarah loves therapy so much. Yeah I wasn't.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: I'm not as braggy as there, but Sarah loves so much.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: But I am definitely a advocate for your mental health
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: and stability. So um. But I also felt really sad
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: for Genevieve because of how painful it seemed for her
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: to sit and talk and open up, like I felt
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: really bad for her because I think that there are
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: definitely people who operate like that. I am the polar
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: opposite of that. Like if I am upset or I'm angry,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: there's no like trying to pull it out of me.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: My child is trying to show her money to you.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: It's four dollars, thanks baby, thank you angel um. So
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: I felt really bad for her because I don't I
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: can't even imagine what a world that looks like where
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: you can't like fully open or talk or be uh
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: like like open with how you feel or your emotions
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: or anything, because I'm just not like that. And uh
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: so I felt really bad for her, But she she was.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I thought she handled it really well when he was
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: sitting her home because she was pretty aware of the
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: fact that, like, she hasn't opened up at all, and
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: she sees and acknowledges that he has connections with some
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: of these other women that she would be like, it
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: just wouldn't work if he took it down hometown dates,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: it just wouldn't work. She's that far behind at this
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: point because she knows that she can't open up, so
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: even though she didn't share much in that, I appreciated
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: her honest vulnerability and sharing that she just she wasn't
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: gonna be able to do it. Yeah, it's not interesting.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: She was actually in turn vulnerable by saying I can't
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: be vulnerable all right. Uh. Then the other standout moment,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: of course is Sarah saying like I love therapy, love,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: love love, And then she goes in there to the
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: room with him in the psychotherapist and she like kind
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: of expresses just how frustrating being in the house has
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: been and how the other girls, um, you know, don't
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: really like trust that. You don't trust her or like
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: have a different perceived perceiving her in a way that,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: like she says, is not really her. Um, but she's
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: think Clayton was sitting there and he was like, don't
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: you think inside he was like this is strange. Well yeah,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: because he he eventually calls her out later in the
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: night saying that he doesn't buy her tears well actually
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: because at she's quote crying, but there's no water coming
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: out of her eyes, which really confirms what the psychotherapist says.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: At the end of the daytime portion of the group date,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: which is there's somebody here who's was who was performative
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: in the room. Uh, And immediately like all the girls
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: kind of like point their fingers at her, and then
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Clayton is watching her just cry with no water, And
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I think that that is like that's a telltale sign
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: that somebody is being performative, right, well, yeah, because typically
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I mean unless she has no tear ducks and her
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: doctor can prove it. Well, you know, she said that
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: like she had no more tears less, But it's kind
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: of an expression. Girl, she's dried up. Girlfriend has dried up,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: girlfriends dryed hydrated. I also would have been weird on
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: that date anyway, Like Clayton was probably like, why do
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: we have to do silly things like this with a
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: therapist to pretend like we can all be together as one.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he was like mortified, but still yeah for Sarah, Sarah, Yeah,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: it's pretty weird to be like, quote in therapy with
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: somebody that you're dating when there's like someone that you
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: barely know. I barely know. I mean, you know, you've
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: been on the show. They have barely spent any time
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: alone with Clayton. Do they really know who he is?
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Probably not no, it would have been like that was
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: that the way. Okay, So I was there, like I
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: got eliminated between like eight seven and eight and then
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: like six, so technically it was like this week, and
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: that would have been me sitting in that room with Cristels,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: who I legitimately may have had thirty minutes of private
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: conversation with. That's so, and then you're supposed to sit
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: in front of a therapist and be like, these are
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: my deepest emotions and concerns. Let me lay it all
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: out here for you and this man that I don't know,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: and also the millions of people who are going to
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: watch the show in a therapist that I'm just meeting
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: for the first time in a foreign country who knows
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: nothing about me or my past or my childhood. So great, Yeah,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: very very awkward. These very most of them, thankfully've had
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: one on the one, so they've had more than thirty minutes.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: But truly, Genevieve, who had the two on one, has
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: had about thirty minutes with him, so no wonder why
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: it was so uncomfortable to get one. All right, so
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: let's just get so really, not anything to say about
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Serene's date except for the fact that I'm so confused
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: that she got the rose over Teddy. What. I think
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: he gave her the rose just because she said I'm
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: falling in love with you and he had no idea
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: what to do, right, was he just like I don't know? Yeah,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: maybe for real some bachelors like they hear I love you,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: I'm falling in love with you, and they're like, oh man,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: we got to cut this off now because poor girl,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: we're totally leading her on. But he did not know
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: he didn't do that, or he's still excited about her.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: But I'm like really confused because Teddy was way more
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: of a storyline, uh, just like her character on the show,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: and we just I felt like we were more invested
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: in her. They made us more invested in her and
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: then Serene. So I just feel like Serena is the obvious,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: like a person that we're cutting next week. Uh. Teddy
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: weird because she was first impression Rose. We learned there
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: was say her virginity storyline about how she'd be willing
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: to lose it to a guy that she was in
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: love with, she would be which didn't she say that
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: she'd be Did she say that she'd be down to
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: do it in a fantasy suite. I don't know. We
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: were all thinking this is going to happen, that it
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: was leading to a fantasy suite with Teddy, and it's
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: not happening. It's not happening, and it's so weird. So
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: why does he say at the towards the end, I
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: slept with both of you. I mean, that's not too
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: shocking now because it would have been shocking if he
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: had taken I'm sorry I missed that he said that
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: he slept with both of them. He says to two
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: ladies or two to three. I think he says, I
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: love you to three, and then he says to two women.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: He tells them in front of each other, I slept
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: with both of you. But is that it's so cringe,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: so cringe, but also not super surprising, not super surprising.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: But look, why say it out in front of everyone
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: for people to judge these two women? And also why
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: do that to each other? Now they've got to go
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: back and think, oh, I'm not so special anymore. Then
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: you have to think about the visual. Yes, I just know, like, okay,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: the way the fantasy dates work was he with her
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: last night and now he's with me, tonight's just gross.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: It's it's like, really really weird. Okay, Well, anyway, so
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: there's that. So we're all thrown off, or at least
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: I am thrown off by the elimination of Teddy over
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Serene listeners. Let us know, say something in the Facebook group,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: because I know you guys are active in there, and
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: I really I want to know if you're as puzzled
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: as I have been. Okay, well, i'd say that's it. Danna,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: you survived an episode of the Bachelor. Thank you so
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: much for putting yourself through that. Well, you know what,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: it was painful. No, it wasn't all painabule, but I'm
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: telling you I had to. I had to like skip
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: through the end. I could not even stomach the rose ceremony,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: could not even go through it. I was like, okay,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm done. I just it's kind of like, what's
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: what's the season gonna be? How's it gonna end? Actually, well,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: lots of people are saying it's gonna end with him
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: on choosing anyone. Uh, and I don't know how that
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: would be when he keeps when he's crying over loving
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: too many people, How does that work? I wonder if
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: he just didn't date a lot before this, or I
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: wonder if he's has he ever shared if he's ever
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: been in love? Uh, you know what, that's something I
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: should know. I'm going to say that he has been
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: in love, but I'm not sure that he's really dated
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: a lot. I think there may have just been one
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: serious relationship under his belt. I also might just be
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: pulling this out of my foot. It's the funny thing
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: about the show though, the women, when they're the bachelorette,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: it tends to work out because we go on and
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: we know what we want. We're not messing around right
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: when you're good at making decisions just in general. And
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: then I feel like what the guys when the when
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: the man becomes the bachelor, it usually is this dude
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: who maybe didn't get a lot of girls growing up,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: and then he gets on the show and he's like,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: oh my god, I've got all these hot chicks after me,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: like I'm going to do so well after this, and
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: it goes to their head a bit. You know, we've
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: seen you christ souls, right, There's been several in the
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: past that this has happened to um, and I wonder
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: what this happened to Clayton too, Like he seems pretty
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: nice and kind and sweet and genuine and that sort
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: of thing. But I wonder is this also going to
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: happen to him because now he's had all these beautiful
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: women who are there. And you know this when you're
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: in the show, like all you gotta do is go
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: there and fall in love. Like all you have to
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: do is like not worry about food, you don't worry
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: about drinks, you don't worry about anything. You just got
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: to go there and like the guy. And then the
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: bubble is done at first, and then you're in real
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: life and you're like, oh wow, I don't even know
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: this person. Yep. Well, I mean another reason why paradi
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: maybe better than the main show because you do get
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: to know the people more and the success, right is
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: much better? Is better? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. I think they
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: have so many more couples um now because of the
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: success of Paradise, even a couple there were some from
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Bachelor Pad and again when we said this in the beginning,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: and I think it's just because those two shows, Hey,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: you get to know each other more, but they feel
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: a little bit more genuine. I mean, you get so
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: many more hours with the person you're living with them
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: for over twenty days. Anyway, D and I know you
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: have to go. Thank you so much for being here.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: It's always so much fun when you're here. You haven't
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: such an awesome personality and you have something to say
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: about everything, and I love that. Thanks. Actually, this is
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun way to start my morning off,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: all right, see bye bye. Alright, guys, before we head
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: out of here, we have Bachelor headlines, of course, and
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: we will go through all of those after this break.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: M H. Already, Bachelor headline time start with two with
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Peter Weber. So he's predicting that Clayton is going to
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: end up with No One and he better not have
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: red spoilers or something, and like just trying to make
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: his opinion because that would be really annoying because I've
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: been spoiler for you guys for so many seasons now
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: and I love watching the finale. It makes everything more exciting.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: It makes me feel like I'm not lying to you guys. Okay, Well, anyway,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: this is what he says. My prediction, and I hate
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: to say it is that he ends up with no One,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: and that it is it was supposed to be Rachel.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: He says, I think she loses it and then who
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: knows if they all walk away or how it ends.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: He thinks that she quote loses it over the fact
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: that he was intimate with another woman besides her. He
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: continues to say, maybe he walks away because it was
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: mainly Rachel. I'm hoping this is not the case, but
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I think that's how it's going to end. He said
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: he's surprised that she that he was. He was able
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: to give her so many group dates like back to back.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I agree that was kind of shocking. Um that says
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: a lot. And yeah, I mean I I would be
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: pretty convinced of being Rachel if you were asking me
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: last week. But I think that Susie really has almost
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: evened that with her. So I think it's going to
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: go between the two of them. We'll see, we'll see anyway. Okay,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: So another Peter Webber headline, because it is kind of juicy.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: He was on our podcast a couple of weeks ago,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: and he did say, you know, he alluded to not
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: so much liking that Hannah Brown revealed that they slept
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: together post her season post his season, But now he's
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: talking a little bit more about it, and we're here
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: for the two He said, I did not talk to
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: her after the book came out, her book where she
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: reveals that this happened. Um, I did reach out to
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: her and I received no comment back. You know, it
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: is what it is. I personally wouldn't have done something
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: like that. If two people have a private situation and
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: they talk and they say they're going to keep it private,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: just keep it private. I don't know. She has done
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: this to me on two occasions now where she says
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: she's not going to say anything, and then she says something.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: He is obviously referring to Hannah opening up about their
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: four sex times there there Yeah, they're rounding the bases
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: four times in the fantasy suite um during after the
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: final rows on her season. And now again she's talking
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: about their hook up post their season. So there's two times, yeah,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: two times where she said let's not say anything and
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: then she ends up saying something publicly. So I get it.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: I get why he'd be annoyed that. All right, Um,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: let's see Greg Grippo. Grippo Grippo, you know Greg from
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Katie season. He has a girlfriend. She is an influencer
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: in Paris. We don't know much more than that, but
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: it looks to be that he sent her three dozen
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: roses on Valentine's Day. So Greg is not anti rose uh.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: And he also told Nick Vile this week that he
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: will probably not be hitting the beaches of Mexico for
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Paradise because he is seeing someone. So well, we're all
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: very happy for Greg. You know, there's lots of girls
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: out there, probably sad that they are not with him,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: because despite what you think of him on the show,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: lots of good think of him as a total heart throb.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: All right. And then finally Clayton, this is a headline
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  Speaker 1: we can really read into. Clayton says he sometimes regrets
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: joining The Bachelor. He says, the first three weeks into
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: the show airing, I definitely thought, um that he made
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: a mistake signing up and being the Bachelor because quote,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: because you just don't know what to expect going into it. Um,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: he said. I thought this is gonna be great, everyone's
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: gonna come around. Started seeing my personality, and a couple
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: of weeks in, people weren't. It seemed like no matter
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: what they showed, even when they did show my personality,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: like maybeing goofy. People would still say he has no personality,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, what more do you want to see?
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: He continued to say to me, I just wasn't ready
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  Speaker 1: for the magnitude of criticism I was going to face.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: He said that because his the season's um Michelle season
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: and his season were so back to back, he didn't
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: have a lot of time to reach out to alumni
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: and discuss like their thoughts on him being the Bachelor,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: or like get any advice. It feels like he missed
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: out on that. But I'm just interested in his headline
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: because would you really say that, like you at points
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: regret being the Bachelor if you end up with somebody
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: in the end. So I'm thinking this might be a
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: subtle sign that he doesn't pick anyone, or that like
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: maybe he does pick somebody, but maybe the person doesn't
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: want to do with him. I think now that I
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: say that, that's the injuicy stuff that we haven't seen before,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: and it's kind of like Coltson esque. But like what
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: if it comes down to like nobody wanting to be
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: with him in the end? That would be crazy? All right, Well,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: stay tuned, people, So much for Deanna thinking that this
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: season is boring, right, because if that happens, that is juicy. Alright. Well, guys,
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you listening to me ramble by myself in
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: the past ten minutes and always tuning into the Almost
• 52:22
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• 52:27
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• 52:30
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• 52:33
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• 52:37
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