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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, October 29 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, October twenty nine. This is Jaguars Jack
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  Speaker 1: Wars Happy Hour is presented by Jet Home Loans and
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  Speaker 1: now a guy who's always ready to pick up the tab,
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  Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick. Yes, welcome in Jaguars Happy Our, presented
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  Speaker 1: by Jet Home Loans. J P. Shadrick, Pete Prisco, CBS
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  Speaker 1: Sports Senior writer. Tony Boselli is still in London. We're
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  Speaker 1: everything to hear from him tonight. And Jeff Flagaman is
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  Speaker 1: in with US Jaguars analysts, former defensive lineman in studio. Hi, Jeff,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for stopping in tonight. Sure, good to see you
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  Speaker 1: got Jaguars All Access later, right, Yeah, I gotta get
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  Speaker 1: some knowledge from Pete where we finally got a pro
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  Speaker 1: in that seat from Jane. Knowledge from Pete to make
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  Speaker 1: the TV show better. Now, I was watching your little
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  Speaker 1: clips on online here today when you're tweeting them out,
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  Speaker 1: I was watching them. Yeah, it's a it's become a Monday.
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  Speaker 1: I guess a tradition now, right, you've started that a
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  Speaker 1: few weeks ago. I guess. Yeah, I guess you've You've
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  Speaker 1: joined us in so I'm so deep in a Twitter, JP,
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  Speaker 1: you are a tweet and fool. Yeah you are not film.
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  Speaker 1: I I dig film and people like the film, so
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  Speaker 1: why not I love the film. You get the film
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  Speaker 1: right away too, that's nice. I had it last night, Pete.
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  Speaker 1: The whole way home killed. They killed about two hours
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  Speaker 1: of your flight time. Huh No, it takes me probably
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  Speaker 1: like three. I mean to really watch like every player
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  Speaker 1: and and really go in depth. I mean, if you
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  Speaker 1: just like kind of watch it halfheartedly, you can get
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  Speaker 1: through it in about an hour. But I mean if
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  Speaker 1: you're really trying to look at each individual what they
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  Speaker 1: do on every play, I mean, that's that's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of rewinding. So but it's fine. Had plenty times of
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  Speaker 1: the other six hours of the flight, Yeah, plenty of
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  Speaker 1: times nine and a half hour flights. I can't. I
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  Speaker 1: can't sleep on a plane in a in a chair,
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  Speaker 1: that's upright. I mean if if I can recline back
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  Speaker 1: and kick my feet out a little bit and have
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of leg room, which I had leg room,
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  Speaker 1: but I couldn't go back. I mean I had two
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  Speaker 1: guys that were elbow to elbow behind me, and they
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  Speaker 1: were scrunched in these two seats, Pete, that were probably
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  Speaker 1: made more for smaller folks, you know, uh not for
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  Speaker 1: those two guys. People. You you didn't sleep the whole
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  Speaker 1: way then, No, I don't think I could either. I
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  Speaker 1: got a little cat nap coming back, like an hour
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  Speaker 1: and a half or something. I would have taken an
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  Speaker 1: hour and a half. I can tell you that over tonight,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna sleep good. Yea, I'm gonna you have them
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  Speaker 1: into a London game. Have you know I've never been
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  Speaker 1: to Europe ever. No, I'm gonna go to Italy one
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  Speaker 1: of these days. It's cool. My whole thing is, I'm
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  Speaker 1: I have aunty, I'm ancy. I can't sit on a
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  Speaker 1: plane for a long period of time. It drives me crazy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you definitely got to do the old walk around a lot,
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  Speaker 1: kind of keep the blood flowing, because my knees just
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  Speaker 1: start pete, they start to kill me on a on
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  Speaker 1: an airplane like that. I don't know if it's the
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  Speaker 1: elevation or or what they well, they say like with
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  Speaker 1: the players and stuff, they have all they have the
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  Speaker 1: stuff down to a science. And so when the when
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  Speaker 1: the players are on the plane, they've got those seats
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  Speaker 1: that will lay flat, which they should have that. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if they've got compression socks, and all I was gonna
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  Speaker 1: bring up. I mean, they have a science about where
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  Speaker 1: they they're wearing compression socks, which is basically go I think,
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  Speaker 1: the almost their entire leg And they have you know,
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  Speaker 1: the diet down how much they want to drink per
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  Speaker 1: hour of flight time. I mean, it is a total science.
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  Speaker 1: And so and then after the game, the players, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I mean, I can't imagine trying to
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  Speaker 1: be on a plane for eight hours after playing an
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  Speaker 1: NFL game. That would be miserable. I don't care if
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  Speaker 1: you can lay flat, sideways, vertical, it doesn't matter. That
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  Speaker 1: would be miserable. So their their seats lay flat then
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  Speaker 1: like a bed, some of them first class seats do.
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  Speaker 1: And then there's a second tier of seats that's almost
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  Speaker 1: like a first class seat, a little wider and as
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more reclined. It doesn't go all the
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  Speaker 1: way down. So and then there's a coach seats in
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  Speaker 1: the back. And by the way, if I did go
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  Speaker 1: to Europe, my first thing I would do would be
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  Speaker 1: going to a bar, run up a big tab and
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  Speaker 1: leave it. Well. On that note, here's what's coming up
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  Speaker 1: on the program today. The Whimbley aftermath. I guess you
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  Speaker 1: could say the London aftermath as well, with everything that
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  Speaker 1: happened on Friday night and into Saturday and then the
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  Speaker 1: game itself on Sunday. What now for this Jaguars team?
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  Speaker 1: Where do they turn? What do they do? It's the
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  Speaker 1: halfway point, it's the bye week. What in the world's
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  Speaker 1: gonna happen the last eight games of the season. And
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  Speaker 1: we'll go around the National Football League as well well.
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  Speaker 1: Here from Doug Maron is five o'clock press conference will
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  Speaker 1: carry live right here on Jaguars Happy Hour, So stick
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  Speaker 1: around for that one. Let's start with the football. We'll
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  Speaker 1: get to the other things in London coming up as well,
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  Speaker 1: the finals of the loss to the Eagles at Wimbley Stadium.
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  Speaker 1: Doug Maron, after the ball game, and you can point
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  Speaker 1: everyone in the right direction, you get everyone together. If
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  Speaker 1: everyone's pulling in that direction and doing what they're supposed
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  Speaker 1: to do, you of doing their job, then yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: turn it around. But if you don't, and you sit
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  Speaker 1: back and you know, you make excuses, the point fingers
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  Speaker 1: or you know, get out of your role or things
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  Speaker 1: of that nature. Um, then you can't. And that's my
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  Speaker 1: job to pull everyone in the same thing, and obviously
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  Speaker 1: I haven't been doing that. Well, there's Doug Moron in
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  Speaker 1: the press conference after the game. I mean we've heard
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  Speaker 1: this kind of tone, this line, this stuff for a
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  Speaker 1: few weeks now, guys, Pete. I mean, at some point
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  Speaker 1: the Rubbers got to meet the road here and get
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  Speaker 1: something done moving ahead. But how do they do it?
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  Speaker 1: That's a good question, JP. I mean, look, they want
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  Speaker 1: to be a power run team, and they didn't run
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  Speaker 1: the ball. You really want to point that they tried.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't try. What it was second and one and
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  Speaker 1: second and two and third and one. No, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: telling you, Pete, that in the ball game they tried
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  Speaker 1: to run the football, and it was very obvious that
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  Speaker 1: running the football was gonna get you just a big loss.
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  Speaker 1: They ran eight times though, with running backs. JP. Did
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  Speaker 1: you look at the halftime, Yeah, just what you saw
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  Speaker 1: in the first half that will give you encouragement. Did
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  Speaker 1: you continue to run the football and win a game?
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  Speaker 1: What did you see in that first time? It wasn't
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  Speaker 1: a lot. The first run by Hide was seven yards.
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  Speaker 1: I'll give you that. Then the next three or four
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  Speaker 1: We're not great. After that Tony. I mean, Jeff, is
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  Speaker 1: that because of the tight ends camp block? What wasn't
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  Speaker 1: just the tight ends, Pete, it was the offensive line
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  Speaker 1: as a whole. And then you also have a running
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  Speaker 1: back that doesn't have a lot of experience in the system.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the reality. And the other thing is
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  Speaker 1: the number two defensive the league stopping a run, Fletcher
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  Speaker 1: Cox in the middle, who was a dominant player. He's
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  Speaker 1: probably the best run stopping defensive tackle in the league
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  Speaker 1: as far as a as a pure three technique, he's
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  Speaker 1: the best in the league. So, I mean, what gave
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  Speaker 1: you the idea that you were going to run the
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  Speaker 1: ball in the second half? Believe me, I'm not you know, Jeff,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a run first guy. I think, why do
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  Speaker 1: you come out and say built that team to Everybody
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  Speaker 1: wants to have an identity, right, tell me what that
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  Speaker 1: you have seen out of this football team so this
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  Speaker 1: season that makes you think that their identity is running
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  Speaker 1: the football? Know, that's who they want to be. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know who they are, but that's who they want
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  Speaker 1: to be. But here's the difference. You have a pipe dream, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and then a dream and then reality and reality For
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  Speaker 1: the football team is not that they can go out
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  Speaker 1: there and run a football and dominate a football team
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  Speaker 1: by running the ball. They can't do what is their reality.
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  Speaker 1: The reality is they gotta have balance, They've got to
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  Speaker 1: be able to throw the football around and and even
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  Speaker 1: though you don't want to expose yourself to having turnovers,
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  Speaker 1: that's the only way that this offense is gonna score points.
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  Speaker 1: That had they had ninety yards of all offense in
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  Speaker 1: the first half and in a in a first half
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  Speaker 1: in which they tried to run the football and it
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  Speaker 1: didn't work. And so in the second half they came
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  Speaker 1: out and I know they finished the game running or
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  Speaker 1: throwing the football like thirty one times or whatever is.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how many players they had in the
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  Speaker 1: second half as a whole, but they came out because
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  Speaker 1: that was the only way that they could try to
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  Speaker 1: win the football game was by throwing the ball. If
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  Speaker 1: they if they're going to run the ball all in
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  Speaker 1: the second half, it would have been a waste of time.
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  Speaker 1: But don't you think he can run on second and two? Though? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah, But but here's the thing, Pete.
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  Speaker 1: Second and two is like a free down. I mean
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  Speaker 1: of all the people that should understand free down. That's
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  Speaker 1: you second and two, because here's the thing, get it,
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  Speaker 1: but no, you got to move with the third and two.
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  Speaker 1: Wouldn't you be happy if they were? If you could,
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  Speaker 1: if you could you, if you could get the third
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  Speaker 1: and two as an offensive coordinator every time, wouldn't you
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  Speaker 1: be happy? Yes? Okay, So that's the whole point of
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  Speaker 1: second and one and second and two. It's a free
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  Speaker 1: down for the offense. Stay aggressive, throw it down and
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  Speaker 1: take a shot. Because if if it's incomplete, so what,
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  Speaker 1: it's a manageable third and two. I mean, that's the
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  Speaker 1: perfect down to be aggressive as an offensive coordinator. By
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  Speaker 1: the way, I'll say this now, I didn't like them
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  Speaker 1: going for it either on I would have any problem
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  Speaker 1: with it all, but Slly didn't like it. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: have any problem with it at all. Well, here's why
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  Speaker 1: I don't like it. You're supposed to have this great
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  Speaker 1: I think, granted it wasn't great. Yes, you're supposed to
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  Speaker 1: have this great defense. And I know they're banged up
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  Speaker 1: in the back end a little bit and everything else,
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  Speaker 1: but punt the ball in, hold them, get the ball
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  Speaker 1: back and go from there. You have a pet pete.
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  Speaker 1: You're you're assuming that the defense has been playing great,
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  Speaker 1: and that's the wrong assumption to make if you're making
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  Speaker 1: the call in the game, and based on what the
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  Speaker 1: defense has done so far this year and what Carson
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  Speaker 1: once had been able to do, by the way, converting
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  Speaker 1: third and elevens with his legs, why would you run
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  Speaker 1: the risk at that point of not even touching the ball? Again,
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  Speaker 1: I have no problem with that, And and so if
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  Speaker 1: you want to, if you want to nitpick coaching, that's
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  Speaker 1: not the place to go. And I'm I'm talking about
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  Speaker 1: the first time. I didn't mind the second time you
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  Speaker 1: got to the point where you had to go for this. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well the second time enough more more clock could run
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  Speaker 1: off and you needed to go for it. And if
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  Speaker 1: you went for the first one, you're gonna go for
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  Speaker 1: the second one. But I mean, do people want to
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  Speaker 1: look at that? And then also the decision to go
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  Speaker 1: for two in the second half. I think it was
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  Speaker 1: quarter the third quarter, and I'm okay with that, But
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  Speaker 1: personally me, I would have kicked the extra point and
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  Speaker 1: taken one, because I think it's early in the game
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  Speaker 1: to go to your chart. Some coaches believe that the
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  Speaker 1: chart applies through the whole game. Other coaches believe that
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  Speaker 1: you throw the chart away and then you only apply
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  Speaker 1: the chart to the last five minutes of the ball. Well,
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  Speaker 1: now the charts got out the window. In the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: they do what they wanted. Analytics, you know, down this,
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  Speaker 1: you go for that. Teams are going for two when
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  Speaker 1: they're you saw it the other night last week in
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  Speaker 1: the game against the Monday night game. Remember they went
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  Speaker 1: for what was it, they went for two? Um, I
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  Speaker 1: forget the exact scenario, but they're they're going through all
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  Speaker 1: these scenarios now where they're going for it in these
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  Speaker 1: situations where that doesn't weren't going for it. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: like that. I had no problems with coaching, with game plan.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean, for those people want to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: beat that drum, don't beat in my direction. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: want to hear for you. It's on players and performance execution.
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  Speaker 1: It's on everybody. I mean, because performance is based upon coaches,
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  Speaker 1: game plan, production, performance and everything else. But I mean
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  Speaker 1: as far as don't don't don't point the finger to
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  Speaker 1: coach and say that was a bad game plan. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: you could have won a game if you did this.
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  Speaker 1: That's not the game that you can sit there and
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  Speaker 1: say anything negatively about about about the coaching. As far
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  Speaker 1: as in game coaching, I thought it was it was fine,
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  Speaker 1: totally fine. I mean you can pick apart every game
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  Speaker 1: and take plays out. Yeah, but but I mean you
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  Speaker 1: would be really nitpicking in this game. I think if
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  Speaker 1: you're criticizing the coaching, let's get to the quarterback the
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  Speaker 1: frustration setting in, like Portal is looking for answers for
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  Speaker 1: his offense. I you know, I'm not mad at anybody.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not mad at myself. You know, I get frustrated
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  Speaker 1: with everybody and myself included when we don't do the
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  Speaker 1: things that you know, I know we could do, and
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  Speaker 1: I know, um you know, I've watched just two on
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  Speaker 1: a weekly basis. So I think that's all we gotta
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  Speaker 1: do is continue to find a way to just be
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  Speaker 1: ourselves and make the place that everybody on our offense
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  Speaker 1: can make. You know, I don't think anybody needs to
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  Speaker 1: be superman or do anything special. He's got to do,
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  Speaker 1: um what what we're all capable of? Pete, how did
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  Speaker 1: number five play for you yesterday? Well? Look, people want
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  Speaker 1: to point the finger at the guy all the time.
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  Speaker 1: That that wasn't on him yesterday. I mean he wasn't great,
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  Speaker 1: but it wasn't Charks should have had it. If I
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  Speaker 1: wrong on the TV and I don't watched to tape, Jeff,
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  Speaker 1: it looked like chart should have had a touchdown on
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  Speaker 1: the one where he fell down, should have been a catch. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: the one where he caught it and he was running
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  Speaker 1: on the on the sideline near the gold line and
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  Speaker 1: he slipped on the Yeah, would he have scored if
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  Speaker 1: he had kept his feet Yeah, no, no, back there.
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  Speaker 1: That would have prevented him from going another five seven yards.
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  Speaker 1: But now you mean you want to talk about the
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  Speaker 1: one he dropped in the end zone. Yeah, that that
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  Speaker 1: has to be about that one all day long. Gotta
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  Speaker 1: catch that ball. Yeah, he's got to catch that ball.
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  Speaker 1: But I didn't think Bortles. I thought Portles was okay
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  Speaker 1: yesterday and and he wasn't, you know, for every game,
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  Speaker 1: and he's been the problem. He wasn't the problem on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think No. I thought it was okay. I
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  Speaker 1: mean he missed some things. But when you watch a
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  Speaker 1: little bit deeper and you watch the film, not a
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  Speaker 1: lot of separation. I thought at times that he didn't
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  Speaker 1: display very good pocket presence or a calm in the pocket.
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  Speaker 1: But I thought he did some nice things with his
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  Speaker 1: legs at times. Sometimes they probably reacted a little bit
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  Speaker 1: too soon. He missed a throw that could have I
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  Speaker 1: think won the game. At the end of that ball game,
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  Speaker 1: it was it was the fourth and one pet and
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  Speaker 1: it was the first one, and he's that's the one
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  Speaker 1: where he ran for the first down. And if he
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  Speaker 1: has his eyes down the field, maybe he sees it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but there's Deed Westbrook running with nobody
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  Speaker 1: near him on a go route essentially, with nobody within
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  Speaker 1: fifteen yards of him, and if Blake launches it, it's
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  Speaker 1: a touchdown. On the right side of the formation of
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  Speaker 1: it was left. Blake kind of spun out of the
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  Speaker 1: pocket that a kind of a pirouette, and then ran
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  Speaker 1: out and then he ran for the first down if
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  Speaker 1: he First of all, he got a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: pressure from I believe was Brandon Graham going against Josh
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  Speaker 1: Walker at the left tackle spot. But Josh Walker had
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  Speaker 1: him blocked, so there was no imminent threat, no reason
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  Speaker 1: to say I've got to get out of here. If
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  Speaker 1: he stays there and just kind of slides in the
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  Speaker 1: pocket instead of escaping the pocket. Maybe he's able to
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  Speaker 1: see that. But even when he goes out, now he's
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  Speaker 1: flushed to the side that d D is streaking and
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  Speaker 1: going vertical, he still had time to throw up. But
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  Speaker 1: I think it was one of those things in his
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  Speaker 1: mind He's like, Uh, do I throw it? Or can
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  Speaker 1: I just stick here and get the first down? So
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  Speaker 1: was that part of his thought process. But in that scenario,
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  Speaker 1: if that's Pete, Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes, what do
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  Speaker 1: you think they do? The shot there goes to the
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  Speaker 1: ball and bam touched down down by six. At that point,
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  Speaker 1: now you're in the lead with an opportunity to win
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  Speaker 1: it with your defense. Well, wasn't there a third and
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  Speaker 1: two play or second and to play with the throw
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  Speaker 1: where he had two guys standing, both of them were open.
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  Speaker 1: He threw it to the ground in between the two
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  Speaker 1: of them. What play was that? There was one play
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  Speaker 1: where he threw it in the back of a J's helmet,
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  Speaker 1: kind of like what are he did a couple of
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  Speaker 1: weeks you know, No, this one was um late in
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  Speaker 1: the game, and one of those right before the two
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  Speaker 1: guys was at the feet of a guy. Was just yeah,
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  Speaker 1: those guys were open. He threw it between the two
• 15:32
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• 15:37
  Speaker 1: I I just he wasn't awful, he wasn't great. He's
• 15:41
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  Speaker 1: But I'm with you, I think his clock has been
• 15:46
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  Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna leave it about that very church
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: in the locker room yesterday when asked if it's uh
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: talking about his character after the incident Friday night in London.
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• 21:02
  Speaker 1: on the line with us in London right now, Tony,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: are you with the London Rain Show Club? By chance?
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not rain right now. Um, maybe I'll go later
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: to night and check out the scene of the crime,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: but I'm not too old for that. S So wait Anut,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: you gotta explain what it was the London rain. It
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: was the incident, That's where it happened Friday night. Players.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: You got to clarify that. I mean, I didn't know that,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: and so I'm sure reports and all the Jags that
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: were arrested not everybody knows that. How was it there
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: JP on Friday? It was not there? Now, See, I
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: don't believe that, Peter. I don't you know the rumor
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: floating around people don't believe what that j was there. No.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: First of all, I would not be surprised if JP
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: was there. But but you guys know what the rumor
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: is is that John Osher was also there and they
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: asked him to chip in, but his arms wouldn't quite
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: go down to the pocket. It's my boy, Johnny, he
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: ain't reaching the bottom of that pocket. Some things never changed, Tony.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: What are you doing in London right now? What's up?
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: So we have a little event tonight with one of
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: the uh UM London partners, LGT Vestures, the financial organization
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: we do every Monday after the game. So it's a
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: it's a good event. I just stepped away to kid
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: on the phone with you guys and uh but it's fun,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: you know, it's it's one of the sponsors here in
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: London that I'll tell you what. They love the Jaguars.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Everyone's disappointed about yesterday, but overall the big picture, they
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: love being a part of it. This one final thought
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: on this thing from Friday night. They could wait one
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: final thought. I mean, this is a whole segment. We
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: can have conversations about where true, I mean, I couldn't
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: discipline him in the game because you're depleted anyway, Where
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: where do you discipline? How do you discipline? What do
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: you do? Well? Hold on, There's a couple of things
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: I think I want to I mean, I think we
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: need to get clear. These aren't the only guys in
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: the NFL to go out on Friday nights. Like we're
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: all aware of that, right, Like this is not like
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: some big phenomenon that guys go out and have a
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: good time Friday nights during the week. I'm not saying
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: everyone does it, but let's not act like this is.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: These are the only eleven guys in the NFL with
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: nine guys haven't ready there or they did this this
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: week now, these are the only few that got arrested
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: doing it, though there's the only few that got arrested
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: doing it from what I understand. Look, there's look, there's
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: that's fine. No, No, I'm not too much of our team, Jake.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about league water. There's nothing until four or
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: five in the morning, and I think you're gonna be smarter.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: I would not do it. I disagree with it, but
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I don't want anyone to think that this is these
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: are the only nine guys that did this in the
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: league this weekend. Was there a curfew? I don't know. No,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: there's no curfew. I know for a fact there's no curfew. Yeah.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing is that they just I think they
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: just got confused. Tony and Pete. I mean, it's supposed
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: to a win and party like rock stars, not the reverse.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: You don't party like a rock star and then try
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: to get a win. Right. But the first time ever, no,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: because you guys both went out on Friday night. No no,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no, no, don't put me in that category. Now.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: I never on Friday night. That was not that was
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: my Friday. And I always felt this that Friday night
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: was the most important night of sleep. And so Friday's
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: for me. If I did go out. It was more
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: of like just to go out to get a meal,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I mean a good meal. But Friday's were night to relax,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: maybe get a massage. No, it's not new I mean Tony.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: When I got to New York. I mean there was
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: a culture of and I'm not gonna name names, but
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: somebody can probably figure it out. I mean it was
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: legendary Friday nights. They all met at the former Players Bar,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: and so they would leave practice on Friday, because it
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: was an early day, they would go ahead and take
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: a nap. Okay, go home and take a nap, and
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: then they would meet at Joe's place and they would
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: party all night. And then they would go to the
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: complex because the equipment guys were with them at Joe's place,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: and they would literally crash all amongst the towels in
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: the equipment room and they would turn the dryers on
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: in the line of room so it would have some heat,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: and sleep in the towels and they would just go
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: in there and wake him up on Saturday for the meeting,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: and then they would after the meetings and the walk
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: through on Saturday, go home, get their stuff, drive across
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: the river, stay in a hotel, in Jersey the night
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: before the game, because that's what you did for a
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: home game. And they would sleep all day on Saturday,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: wake up, have a meal, and then you know, go
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: out and have a meal and then go home and
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: get a little bit more sleep at the hotel and
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: then wake up the next morning and they would take
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: some crazy things in the morning game day and have
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: a crazy game. I mean, that's the way it used
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: to be. I mean, so having players in the conversation
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: about going out on Friday night, some of the best
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: performances I've ever seen by guys that went out on Friday. Well,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: and your team back in the day, you got your
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: you had a ton of guys that went out on
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Friday night. Well here's the thing. But here's the thing,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Pete kiss what they didn't do. They didn't they didn't
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: get detained. Does to make sure we're clear of its
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: detained at five in the morning in a foreigner country.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Here to me, the issues the stupidity um in a
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: couple of instances. Stupidity number one, you're three or four
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: and you're in a foreign country, so maybe we shouldn't
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: be out the four or five In the more stupidity
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: number two, we're gonna be out at four or five
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: in the morning, and whatever happened with the bill, let's
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: just pay it and get it over with and disappear,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: even if we feel like we're getting taken advantage of,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: because whatever the fine is is will be much bigger
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: whatever we have to pay right now. So stupidity number
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: two is not just paying it, figuring out how to
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: pay it, whoever you have to do, to call anybody
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: and put a credit card down to paper and not
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: get out of there and go home. Change the subject.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: But I mean with the validity of the bill, you know,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, because I think that that is being questioned
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: by the players. But neither here nor there. You shouldn't
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: be out at four o'clock in the morning, five o'clock
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: in the morning. And I want, I want to clarify
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: this because a lot of people kind of got confused
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: when the reports came out. They were thinking because they
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: said Saturday morning early morning, people were thinking they were
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: out on Saturday night. It was not Saturday night. It
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: was Friday night into the wee hours of the morning
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: on Saturday. So make sure we get that. Let's say
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: the bill is wrong. Let's say this this, this lane
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: or whatever took advantage of them. Let's just say for
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: a fact that they rammed up by twenty dollars. Who cares?
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: If your those five guys, is it better just to
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: pay that between the five guys split, you know, five
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: ways and four ways? Whatever it is. Well, there's a
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: couple of detrimental was missing the meetings of about Well
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: here's the thing. Wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, wait,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: when you guys were two years old, right, did you
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: have a credit card that had a limit that was
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars? No, Jeff, Jeff, there's a veteran player
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: there that everyone's reported. I don't care, so I guess
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: it's had a credit card. Okay, Tony, Tony, let's play
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: it out. Your your twenty one. You're Tony Vaselli, you
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: have three of your buddies. You're at the bar. The
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: bill comes, it's a forty eight thousand dollars and you've
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: only had ten drinks, five drinks each, and it should
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: be five thousand dollars. You're gonna step up all your
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: credit card out and pay the bill. You're a liar.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: See if it's four thirty of the more, I'm in
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: a foreign country and I know the police are coming. Yes,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I'm paying the bill because I'm getting my ask back
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: to the to the hotel. So nobody knows about this
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: because I know the fine is going to be twice that.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: If I don't show up, you would have traded off.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Pay the bill when the when the police show up?
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: What are you gonna doll? Didn't get arrested and have
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: him called the head coach? So what did they do?
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Did they pay the bill when the when the police came,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Well they didn't, so they just refuse. Someone had to
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: come get them. I won't name the name of the
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: person who had to come get them, but someone had
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: to go down and get them. I'm just laughing at
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: all this, all this, you know talk of you. You
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: should be smarter than that, right, I mean, Pete, okay,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: three years old? How much common sense did you have? None? Tony?
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Don't j how old very church? Tony. And here's the thing, Tony,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: if you lie? Okay, how old Jeff how olds very church?
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: They have just one of the four because how old
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: very Church? I know it. I knew it. Tony was
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Sally that he was out who was Wisconsin? But you
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: were you were but you want to remember. Jeff might
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: have done something stupid, but the older Jeff, long and veteran,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: would have said about we're getting out home. Yeah, but
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: you gotta remember, Jeff, when Tony Baselli showed up to Jacksonville,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: he was already like a thirty three year old man,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: remember he was. He wasn't like the normal twenty one
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: year old. I do remember there was one night, but
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: it wasn't like, you know, within a couple of days
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: of a game in a foreign country, to where we
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: all jumped in into a Rookies truck and made him
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: drive us to a casino bar somewhere in Wisconsin. You
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: guys were all the penalty we had. We had no
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: way of getting back Pete and we knew it had
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: but no way of being back. Jeff, Jeff, yes you would.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: A veteran. You made sure we got back, and yeah,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: we would have got all right, but we didn't. That
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: was before the days of uber and lift and all
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: those other ways to get back. And here we were
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere, Wisconsin, but we didn't care.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Wisconsin is Let's not let's not make it. Let's not
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: make this unge of twenty one year olds because they
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: weren't twenty one twenty two there betroom players are should
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: take control. But wait, true or false? The two of
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: you guys had beers in the penalty box and Stevens
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Point when you weren't supposed to be in there. I
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about, because I know I
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: was in there. And you know, here's the thing. I
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: never did go to penalty box. I never did go
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: to the penalty box. I'm trying to remember, if I
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: can go ahead, try to remember. I know that what
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: we're talking about. The penalty box was a bar in
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Steven's Point, Wisconsin, which was like the only bar in town,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: so it was the watering hole of choice for everybody.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: It was across the street from I actually never went
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: there either. Yeah, we didn't go there because that was
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: all limbs to us. But they were there. You were
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: surely going to get bust a strong denial, Pete. That's all.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: That's casinos that were an hour away. You know, I
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: remember those casinos because I remember guys were I don't
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: want to get amber. I was just I just needed
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: a mental break from dorm life. And Tom Coughland, well,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: you guys also weren't three and four in a foreign country,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: you know, we were zero zero and an expansion. Dumb. Look,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: it's a dumb thing to do. Those guys did it dumb.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: But but it's it's not It doesn't make them, you know.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: And I like Barry Church saying, oh, you're not a character.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with your character. Okay, It
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: just it's a dumb decision. It was stupid. They should
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: have made a better choice. It happens every week in
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: the NFL. Guys brought on Friday Night. You can agree
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: or disagree. It had nothing to do with the victory
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: or the loss on Sunday, nothing to do with the
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: game at all, zero nothing. It's just it's just I'm
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Church is a bad guy, like Barry Church. PA could
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: have done something differently if you could do it all
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: over again. But that had I mean the fact that
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: we're because here's the thing. If they would have won
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: the game, we we wouldn't be talking about it right now.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: We'd be joking about it, like maybe they should do
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: that every week exactly. It broke the string of losses
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: a little bit. Hey Tony, how long are you in London?
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: I come back to mollow JP overnight flight. Okay, enjoy
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: that ride back, Tony, and thanks thanks for checking. I'll
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: listen to the I'll listen to the podcast later this week.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you what the least of this team's
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: issues right now is whether they got paying at a
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: bar in London on Saturday night or Saturday morning. That's
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: the least of this team issue. What is the biggest
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: issue then? Otherwise the biggest issues they can't score points
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: and they don't have any playmakers an offense there they
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: can create on their own to do it in a
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: quarterback that's struggling right now, that's their issues. It's a
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: lot of issues. Well, it's a it's an offense as
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: a whole that's struggling. And you know it's not just
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: play makers. They can't quarterback nobody, it's the offense as
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: a that that's why I think it is. It is
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: what it is. Where we talked about before the game
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: when you asked the question how does this team get
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: points on offense? And my answers, I don't know because
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's an aspect of this offense that's
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: performing at a high level. And when you don't have
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: anything that you can kind of hang your hat on.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: What do you do they make a deal to Mars
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: the trade deadline. Well, I wouldn't be a deal with
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: these I don't know right now. I'm throwing it out there,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: and I'm not like, what about Jameis Winston? Yeah, I
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: mean interceptions he's got. I'm just I wouldn't either. I
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: would not either. I'm just throwing it out there. I mean,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: but there wouldn't take I wouldn't be James right now.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: And you're not gonna take Damarius Thomas or one of
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: those guys because not gonna Oh he can't run. You know,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna take Jameis Winston just because he's got
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: off the field issues and you're gonna you would have
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: to pay him an inordinate amount of money. That bakes
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: contract year you're playing West and Blake, Well you've got
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Blake dead money next year running seen half money? Right,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: So you know what the only option is the quarterback
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: is the draft the guy so that that you can
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: forget that. So we're the playmakers, and the playmakers out there. No,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: they don't grow on trees, that's for sure. Hey, uh tony,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of your trip. Have a safe flight
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: home and we'll catch you a little later this week. Man, alright,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: try to the show up logging. We have a good
• 35:41
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• 35:43
  Speaker 1: better now. This is what we call an upgrade. Tony
• 35:51
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• 35:52
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  Speaker 1: I want to ask uh Loggy something. Look there's a
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: kid about that scam ling. He was a late round
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: pick by the Packers's. He's scored a touchdown yesterday, has
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: a nice look about him, can get deep long stride. Yeah.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: If how much do you think it benefits him playing
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: with Rogers? Then it's like, say, for example, if Jacksonville
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: drafted him in the sixth round and he had come in,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: would he be any better than Shark? You know what
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I mean? Would he show any better than charkis show? Well? Look,
• 36:27
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• 36:30
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• 36:33
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• 36:35
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• 36:37
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• 36:41
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• 36:43
  Speaker 1: really good player, yes, right, yes, big time. Now, Keman Cole,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that right now, he's playing poor. Yeah,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: what happened to him? He's the guy went off the cliff.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: He's had a number of games back to back that
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: have not been good and it's probably time to give
• 37:00
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• 37:02
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• 37:04
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  Speaker 1: down in South Florida is always um the Jaguars defense, Um,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: we we've always said here, you know, they're they're playing okay,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: they're playing good ball, but they don't have those takeaways,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: the splash plays. They had a couple of takeaways yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: had a couple of interceptions that were dropped. Overall, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: what did you make of the Jaguars defensive result yesterday?
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I was disappointed, I'll be honest with you. And here's why.
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  Speaker 1: You got a team backed up on the two yard line.
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  Speaker 1: You can't let him go ninety eight yards, five yard line,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: whatever it was yards. You can't allow that to happen.
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  Speaker 1: It cannot happen that it was a nine play, ninety
• 42:01
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• 42:10
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  Speaker 1: to seventeen fifteen, seventeen twelve, seventeen twelve, Okay, that was
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: a eleven. So you're talking about the drive after they
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  Speaker 1: had later. Yeah, that was a six place, seventy five
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: yard drive with a five yard touchdown catched by Arts
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: to cap it off. Yeah, that can't happen to that defense.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: It just can't. And I know they were banged up
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: in this secondary, but that should not happen. And correct
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. And again, Jeff, I haven't watched
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: the tape yet, but it didn't look like it was
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: so much the defensive backs in some of those situations
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: as it was others. Yeah, the defensive backs actually did
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: pretty good. I mean, yeah, I give kind of some
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: credit that the young players played. Okay, Like Meeks was
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: pretty good. I mean, here, here's the thing, though, Meeks
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: has got to make a catch on that second one.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: I mean he drops two interceptions, Pete, but give him
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  Speaker 1: credit for being in position. Trey Herndon got beat on
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: one play where he was in man, which Lucky's a
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: young player. That can kind of happen. But I think overall,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I thought the young guys did pretty good and impress
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: me anyway. I mean, so the moment wasn't too big. Uh.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Some challenging wide receivers. Aggalore is a good player, the
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: one that probably did more damage anybody with Jordan Matthews.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: He had a good day. He had a good day.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I thought those were big time throws. The one in
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: the middle of the field was a big time throw.
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  Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is of an amazing player that has great mobility.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: He's courageous, he's got a canon for an arm. He
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: makes this one throw. Pete, I saw your tweet and
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: I love what you said on it too. By the way,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: where can we get one of those I heard? Yeah? Yeah,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: and he's tough. There was a play where you remember
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: when and you probably remember this part because the TV
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: stayed on it when he when Kliss he ducked Calias, okay,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: and then he throws it well right after that. I
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: don't know if the TV caught this. Holy cow and
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Gockway I mean crushed him legal hit, you know, right
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: in the in the midsections him crushed him with his
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: left leg out, which is the one that he had
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  Speaker 1: surgically repaired. And Carson Wentz bounces right up. Ye know,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, tough guy. You're talking about a guy bearing
• 44:34
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• 44:37
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• 44:42
  Speaker 1: where where can I get one of those? Well, draft
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: first or second, you might have a chance to get
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: one of those. He's good, But you know, to go
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: further one. You say it didn't look like those young
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: guys play that bad. I don't think they did. I
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: think other components of the defense didn't play great. I
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: thought that was by far and away, that was the
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: worst game Telvin Smith has ever played his pro and
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: he's never had a game that was that's been anywhere
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: even close to that. And I know he was hurt
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: because you could see that he came out and he
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: was favoring a shoulder and so he wasn't But if
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: you're if you're gonna play like that, you gotta take
• 45:22
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• 45:28
  Speaker 1: hasn't been playing at the level that he's played in
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: the past, but that I never thought i'd see that.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: M hm. Yeah, it's been a disappointment. He's been a
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: disappointment this year. How does he come out of it?
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: And well, if he's not if he's not healthy, that's
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: a problem. Health playing well, I don't know if you could.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: And here's the thing. If it's a significant shoulder injury,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: then does he come out of it at all? Or
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: is he a guy you know? Can can he get
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: better through a week off in the bye week and
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: then essentially having two weeks to get ready for the
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: next game which is at Indianapolis right in that right
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: two weeks away? And so but is it also a
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: problem that just is not going to go away and
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: then he's gonna have to continue to struggle with I
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: don't know, but I mean that to some of the
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: players that he had in that game were a wait
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: a minute, that that's not Jeff, me and Tony have
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: noticed he doesn't look as big. So I'm wondering, is
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: there a shoulder issue? It was never big anyway, but
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: he looked he did. He looks even smaller than he
• 46:35
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• 46:38
  Speaker 1: ongoing shoulder injury, does that mean he can't lift enough? Well,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I mean I don't I
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: don't know if this was an injury that that he
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: came into the game with or is this something that
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: he sustained in the game. I don't know the answer
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: to that. I don't. You just know that in this game,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: his shoulder was clearly hurt. His performance clearly wasn't up
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: to snuff. So alright, we'll take a time out. We'll
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  Speaker 1: You're like, okay, what's going on? And then you find
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  Speaker 1: out that they're detained jail whatever. You're like, you know,
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of illustrates that some of
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: the challenges of having a team over there in London,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: which you know, the league has talked about for a
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: number of years now. Roger Goodell continues kind of to
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  Speaker 1: beat that drum, is that there are challenges about that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, what, what happened if all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: four players or whatever and they are not available and
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  Speaker 1: you've got to do or find a way to replace
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  Speaker 1: four guys. I means, so you can't get four guys
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  Speaker 1: in from the States to come in and fill your
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  Speaker 1: roster up. Well, it doesn't sound like a London problem.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: That sounds like a team and a person doing that problem,
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  Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, but if he did in the United States,
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  Speaker 1: you could, you could, you might be able to make
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: a movie, you can recover and here and here's the
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: other thing. JP. For example, they and Pete I don't
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: know if you knew this, but they when they activated
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  Speaker 1: d Delaney from the practice squad, they signed a guy
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: to take your spot on the practice squad, which when
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: you travel to London, you take all your practice squad guys.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: So just in the event that you have injuries or whatever,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: you got, you know, make roster moves and you activate
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: a guy from the practice squad. Well, this guy that
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: they just signed, they like him, and you sign him,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: but they couldn't even bring him over to London because
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: he didn't have a passport and you couldn't get him
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: one fast enough to take him over to London. So
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: if all of a suddenly there was a defensive back
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: involved in that, and now you're looking for replacements for that,
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: here's a guy you couldn't even activate from your practice
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: squad because you just sign him he doesn't have a passport.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's definitely an issue going ahead. I
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: think with the league in London. M we'll see how
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: they worked that over the next few years here and
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: I see it seems like an easier fixes the years
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: go on. Guys JP as a combine, Hey, get your
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: passport well, yes, I mean the league. I think the
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: league needs to take the steps, Pete, to go ahead
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: and make that a league wide thing. If if that's
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: the future of of having teams and playing over London
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: all that, you know. But JP has a Tennessee Pete
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: to minimize the challenges of being London because JP just
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: loved going to London so much. And Pete, I can
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: tell you. I can tell you firsthand, Pete. JP does
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: not have his a game today. Really he done? He's
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: he got whipped in London. Uh, well, I don't get
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: whipped in London. I got went on the plane ride
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: last night. I don't know. I don't know. You might
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: have been. You might have been hitting London hard, JP.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, it's like like I said, JP brought
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: it on game day. I'll tell you that, No, you did.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: You did a great game. You definitely your your partying
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: didn't impact your game day performance. But I I know you, JP.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Did you or did you not go out Saturday night
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: and hang out the Union Jackson crew? That was Saturday
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: night today annual? What did you do on Friday night?
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: I went out for a little bit. Yeah, and then
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: the Union Jack's fan party was Saturday night. Were you
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: guys in London? Did you stay in London? I did?
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: I stayed closer to Hyde Park. If there's a staff
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: hotel down there, you did you stayed down there? Hm? Ye, Pete,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: he wanted to be there because that's closer to the action.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Of course it is. You know, the people that were
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: working in a working environment, like working as well. I
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: worked on something. I worked on Saturday as well. By
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: the way, did you make curfew? JP? I did? What
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: was curfew? You're saying that with a straight face. Did
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: you get in on Friday night? I will say London time?
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: It would be three o'clock in the morning. No, no, no, no?
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: What time? Wasn't that? Not? What time? Midnight? Whatever? What?
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: I would love? I was throwing shade over here. I had,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: I had, and I'll tell you for a fact, I
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: did a little apearance where me and Coughlin and Chris
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: Pauline went. It was a sponsored Jaguars thing on Friday night,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: and thank goodness, Coughlin was riding in the vehicle that
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I was, so that we you know, Pete, you know
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: him even early. We're not staying there for that event.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: So we got back to the hotel before or at ten,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: and I mean Chris Pauline grabbed a bite to eat
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: and that was it for me. J P. You were
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: what three, no, four am? But you weren't JP. You
• 55:34
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• 55:37
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• 55:40
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• 55:43
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  Speaker 1: You're on Jaguars Happy Hour and you know we fell
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: short in the third game against Tennessee and then you know,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: now it's four straight losses. So you know, for me
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  Speaker 1: right now, my thought process is, you know, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: getting a job done, and it starts with me. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at myself first before I started looking at
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: you know, down the line that you know, the coaches,
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  Speaker 1: the players and everything else that's going around. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: not even I'm not even to that point yet. And
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  Speaker 1: that's why I'm you know, unfortunately that we have the
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: bye week to take you know, a little break as
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: far as to get the emotion of what's been going
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  Speaker 1: on these last four weeks and try to you know,
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  Speaker 1: make the best decisions I can, starting with myself. I
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  Speaker 1: think after the game you said you weren't you didn't
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: have a lot of confidence in the guys up front
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  Speaker 1: in the run game. Can you elaborate on that? Is
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: that just that is? That is a general I think
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: I think when I when I looked at it, you know,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: we had you know, the eight rushes early on, not
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: including the quarterback, and you know the two point three
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: one of them were the reverse. You know, we gained
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of yards on, should have gotten more. Um,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: you know, the extra guys in there and and the
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: in the movement and the physicality, um, you know, it's
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's tough. I mean, you gotta move people,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: you gotta do a good job. I think that we've
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: got to obviously get back to that. I think there
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: were points in a game, um, you know, when we
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: fell behind by two scores in a second half. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we thought that throwing it was we had
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: the best matchups there. The matchups were better you know,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: on the outside throwing the football than it was you
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: know against the front seven. Um. I thought when we
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: got it to you know, uh one score game and
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: we were in the red zone, we throw it three times.
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  Speaker 1: I think there we need to take a good look
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: at you know what I'm saying, what we want to
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: do running the football there. And then really at the time,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: we thought the best way for us to move the
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: football was was to be able to throw it. So,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: you know, I think those are the things, you know,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: you you look back on and you know, can you
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: can we do a better job of that? Absolutely. I'm
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: not here, um like you guys know me, I'm not
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: here trying to trying to make excuses. I'm just telling
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: you the thought process, you know, what was going on.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, we've got to be able to do
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  Speaker 1: a better job of that. Is that more what you
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: saw yesterday or was that just something that you've seen too. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think I think, you know, we gotta you know,
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  Speaker 1: we gotta be able to go out there and do
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  Speaker 1: a better job. You know, the third and you know,
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  Speaker 1: third and one, and I was gonna go we had
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: two plays, you know, we were gonna go, you know,
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  Speaker 1: to play third and one. If we didn't get it
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: on the third and one, you know, if we moved
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  Speaker 1: it up, we were gonna go with the fourth down play,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: and then you know, we wind up losing the yard. Um.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: I think those things get stuck in your mind and
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: you kind of you know, I think I've done a
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: poor job of trying to get past that. You know
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  Speaker 1: that that vision of what happens. I've got to do
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  Speaker 1: a good job of, you know, making sure that you know,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: we're coming up with different things, and you know, keep
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: keep on mindset to that as long as as long
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: as the game obviously is in in in on one
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: score possession. You know, I think when it gets the
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: two scores, it gets tough, and then you know, then
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: you know the mindset of trying to attack certain people,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: you know, using some of our guys on offense that
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: we don't have good matchups, you know, Um, we just
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: got to make sure that we're giving our guys the
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: best chance. So again it starts from me, and I've
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: got to do a better job of that opening up
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: dat holes. Yeah, three guys who played a lot of football.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think a lot ago on on the
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: old line. But I think you know a lot of
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: the stuff too, is the perimeter of the pressures, you
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, the extra guys. You know, those
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: things happen, and we just got to be able to
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: put our guys in formations and stuff to be able
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: to help them. Really at the end of the day
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: to the receiver or is that on the list of
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: high on the list in terms of things you get?
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: You know, there's a there's a lot of things mark
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: that are high on the list, you know. I mean, unfortunately,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: you know, when you're losing. You know, we lose four
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: games in a row. Um, you know, at first, you know,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: we were recognizing, you know, the turnover battle, and we
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: wind up winning the turnover battle, you know, to one,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: UM had some opportunities to get more turnovers. You know,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: we really did and um, you know, we turn the
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: ball over and it leads you know, for them scoring
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: a touchdown on that drive. And you know, for us
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: when we were able to get our turnovers, we were
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: you know, three and out on the one drive and
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: the other drive we wind up getting three. Um. And
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: you know, so so I put an empistis on that,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: you know, the giveaway and takeaways. But obviously there's a
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: lot more to it, you know, catching the football, securing
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: the football, you know, you know, you know, I'm just
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: playing you know, more physical football around and and we've
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: got to coach that better and do a better job
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: of that. Are you at liberty to say whether there
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: will be any internal consequences for the four guys that
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: the that we're detained or is it or is it?
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: Is it anything beyond just a call into the principal's office.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Now there will be discipline taking you know, I'm saying, well,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously we'll handle that all internally, um, you know,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: and you know we're not. We're not. It's not a
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: call to the principal's office. You know, it'll be It'll
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: be disciplined wanting to do a lot and doing too much,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: like in the bye week. Well, I think for me,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm looking at everything that that I can do first.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: So that's that's a pretty large scope of what what
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: I can do. I've got a lot of thoughts going
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: through my mind, a lot of things that I'm putting
• 1:04:41
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• 1:04:45
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• 1:04:47
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• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: what you have to do a better job of what's working,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: what's not working. Um, you know, we have a pretty
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: good sense. You know, we still got you know, a
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: lot of our division games left, so meaning the things
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: we did in the summer. You know what I'm saying
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: to look at where where we are with those you know,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: to compare to you know, where we are now as
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: a team, and you know, just trying to get some
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: guys back, you know, healthy and see you know, are
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: there different things that we've tried to seem to work.
• 1:05:14
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• 1:05:17
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• 1:05:19
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• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: And right now, you know, we haven't done that in
• 1:05:24
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• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: I thought our our punt coverage yesterday was you know,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: the best has been And I thought our kickoff covers,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: you know, did an outstanding job. We had a good return.
• 1:05:37
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• 1:05:39
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• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: You know, and that's that's that's what we're trying to
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• 1:05:46
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• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: get a chance to you know, to get out of
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: here at a certain time because of you know, the
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: time off that that's required that they have, UM, and
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: it gives us time to to to really sit down
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• 1:06:10
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• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: it'll be a little forced time wise. I wish I
• 1:06:16
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  Speaker 1: to try to get that right. Brown Live on Jaguar
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• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: comments early comments today here, I mean, I don't I
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: don't think there's anything shocking there the comment. I think
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  Speaker 1: that everybody was waiting to hear the question about was
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: the player disciplined and what's going to happen after that?
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: And he said it will be handled internally, just what
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: he said yesterday too, will not be a visit to
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  Speaker 1: the principal's office. And and what the reality is is
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  Speaker 1: that with that type of infraction, I believe that they
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: can find a player multiple game checks up to four
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: I believe is what is the maximum? Now? I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: And I think that that's a lot of money. And
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: you're talking about a almost a quarter of a player's
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: salary because it's seventeen paychecks essentially, So you're talking about
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: penalizing a player for for four of those four of
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: the seventeen. That's a significant amount of money. Pete, what
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: do you think it should be? That would be extreme
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: for me? Um? I mean, and then if you look
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  Speaker 1: at like Barried Church, let's just take his contract for example,
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and eighteen Barry Church is making forty five
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: four point five million, so four hundred that would be
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  Speaker 1: what four hundred fifty thousand times four beat one point
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: six million over one point six million if you it
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: would actually be what at one point seven million? No?
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: No, no no, no, what are you checks? Oh? That's right,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: one of it. So I was thinking one sixteen. But
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: but yeah, one will be a game based game, so
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  Speaker 1: it would be almost it would be about almost a
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  Speaker 1: million dollars, about a million bucks. That's a million dollar fine.
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  Speaker 1: There's no way they'll find them that. It's a lot
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: of money. They wouldn't find them that, nor should they
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: find them that. Well, I don't you know, I don't know.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: I mean to sit here and to guess what it
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: might or might not be would be speculation. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean what would be fair? Though
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: we can, we can say what would be fair? I
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: don't know. I mean I would like to know. I mean,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: first of all, we don't have a lot of the details.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: What did they missed from a from a team standpoint?
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  Speaker 1: And you know how much of a distraction It was
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: obviously a big distraction because your teammates and your coaches
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: are answering questions about your behavior, which that's a problem.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know what the fine is going to be.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know what would be considered fair, but I
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: do know this. I think it's you have to make
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  Speaker 1: it equitable for all four. And here's the other question.
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  Speaker 1: And there was reports that it was more than four.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: There they're the other ones that were there to I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you can't penalize them because they didn't miss anything. I
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  Speaker 1: guess I don't know what would you find him, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: Maybe fifty grand for the veteran, Okay, what about it?
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: What about one of the rookies? Uh? Then average it out,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: like if it's fifty grand for Barry Church, the exact
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: same kind of fine for his salary compared so fifty grand,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: so he makes four point five million, and fifty grand
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  Speaker 1: would be of a guy's salary. Let's say he was
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  Speaker 1: making easy ten percent, ten percent, so for but for
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  Speaker 1: Barry Church, that's that would be for what four or
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  Speaker 1: fifty thousand? That's too much? Come on, Jeff, Jeff, just
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  Speaker 1: pay the tab as a member of the union. Just
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: out there, Peter as a union rep. Though back in
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: the day, if Kawfin want to come to you guys
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  Speaker 1: and said I'm finding somebody four and fifty grand for
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  Speaker 1: what he did that you would have you would have
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: taken off. That would have been a problem. Yeah, you're
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  Speaker 1: throwing it out there. I think fifty grand for Church
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  Speaker 1: would be fair. And you know if a guy makes
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  Speaker 1: you just got more expense. Yeah, well, whose credit card
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: actually paid for That's what I want to know. Who's
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: credit card actually paid for the bill? I don't know.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Here's the thing, Pete, don't know if
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  Speaker 1: will ever know. But but Selly does make a good point.
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  Speaker 1: Though Barry Church makes four point five million dollars pay
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: the damn bill, I would have been all four. And
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: if I was a rookie that was in that group,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: like come on, man, hey, we're stuck here. We're all
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: gonna get in trouble. There's not a credible care how
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: much money you make, Pete, you don't have a credit
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: card limit. That's gonna go to. What are the reports?
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: What are they? What are they saying that town? I
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: heard I heard forty, then I heard sixty three, and
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: then I heard eighty. I don't know what it is. Well,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: and that leads you to believe like the reports that
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: there were other guys there that that indeed was the case,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: and everybody was on that tab and whoever you know
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: what I mean, it's and who carries around ten grand
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: and cash in your pocket? So looks guys, we're gonna
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: handy up. Well, well, well i'll take our money, we'll
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: pay it out there. So you know how you at
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: a at a bar sometimes or something, or dinner dinner,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: and you pull out like a couple hundred All right,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: here's my part. Nobody's gonna pull out five grands. Here's
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: my part of the dab in English pounds as well.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing that how do you speak? Please tell
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: me how? Me and you and JP and Joe Fortunalo.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: That's four of us. Okay, we're gonna go out in London.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know, hell can we spend that kind of money? Well,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: from what I'm sure those clubs, you gotta get a
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: v I p roped off area. You're paying for the
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: bottle service, which I don't know anything about, but I've
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: read about it, and and you pay you know the
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: bottle is JP, you were out in town? How much
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: this bottle service? And it ain't cheap apparently according to
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: the numbers speculated out there. I don't do the bottle services. See,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: that's not my scene either. I'm not gonna sit around
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  Speaker 1: and have a pay for bottle service for everybody else
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  Speaker 1: to come drink my my booze. That it's not happening.
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  Speaker 1: No no, no, no wait wait wait, you're you're buying
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  Speaker 1: drinks for everybody else. Well, what you do is you buy,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, they come over and they bring like
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: a bottle of Teto's or something that would normally be
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: what fifty bucks or something, and they mark it up
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: by times ten hundred ducks or something, right, usually like
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  Speaker 1: a sparkler on it, and the girls breath and they
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: bring it in like a thing. And then you got
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: so then you got the Tetos. Then you got your
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: you know whatever, your your your brandy, your booze, your
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: you know, all kinds of Southern comfort or whatever, you know,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: Jack Daniels, they got them all and they charge them
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: five or so for each one. Pete. That just went
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  Speaker 1: over your head. Did you not just hear the description
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: that JP gave us on the bottle service? Tell us
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: again what happened. But usually it depends on the place
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: but to put the sparkler on the end of it,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: light it, and then the girls bring it out and
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: they parade it through the bar and everybody goes nuts.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: And you're in a roped off area by yourself. Question,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: how do you know about this sparklers and girls? It's
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: been raids at the bottle. That's not my regular go to.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, come on, you even get out
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: more logs. You're a little Look, I'm a fifty fifty
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: nine year old man and you're a little fifty eight
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: year old man, and you're a little sheltered. Get you've
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: been a Vegas Like, when was the last time you
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: were in Vegas? I don't know. I mean I've been
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: in Vegas one time in my life. But there you go,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: ja right there. You see if you went to Vegas now, Jeff,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: you'll be astounded. Every every hotel has these big clubs
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: that have bottle service, and it's cost an arm and
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: a leg to get in there. That's just gotta get
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: in the door first. Hey, let's come back. We'll get
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: into this offensive line talking understand. Okay, why would anybody Okay, well,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: is a bottle of Tito's right? You said it cost
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: fifty bucks, maybe right, And so you're going to pay
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: for a bottle. So you're paying five hundred for the
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: same bottle because it's got a sparkler and a parade
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: of girls coming over to your area. Correct. What idiot
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: is gonna spend five dollars and have a bottle that
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: he can go and buy for fifty bucks? Because you
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: know why, it's all the perception of who you are.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: Look at me, I'm the v I P. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: do it. I'm with you, Jeff. Let's come back a
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: little more on Doug Morone's comments on the offensive line.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: He had some thoughts about that. Let's get back to football,
• 1:14:43
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  Speaker 1: Did you see that by Tambo? The performance? Yeah, he's good.
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  Speaker 1: He's nominated for Special Teams Player of the Week. I
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• 1:19:24
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• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: also said a personal best longest field goal by him.
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  Speaker 1: And then he comes back later on and kicks a
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: thirty three yard field goal and a twenty four yard
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: field goal, So four four, two of them over fifty.
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  Speaker 1: That's impressive. I thought he had a tremendous game. I
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  Speaker 1: also think that Logan Cook had his best game as
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: a pro. So the kicking game, the kickers for the Jaguars,
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  Speaker 1: I think he did a great job. Specialists and did good.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's heck. I mean they did their part.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: Westbrook had a nice return special teams. Was was okay? Uh?
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: We heard Doug Moron they're coming out of the commercial
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: break last night talking about the offensive line, the confidence
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: they didn't have a lot going there and they had
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: the coverage outside. We we kind of discussed this a
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: little bit earlier while they didn't run as much yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: What when what you heard today from Doug Moron? Um?
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  Speaker 1: What did you hear out of him Pete about that
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: offensive line and what he thought about moving ahead in
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: the run game here? Well, I mean I thought it
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: was interesting when when he's asked about the offensive line,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: he quickly pointed to the it's not just them and Jeff,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: do you watch the tape those tight ends are having
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: real problems on the edge. Well, yes and no. The
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  Speaker 1: other part, isn't it that what he alluded to is
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: that they're getting they're getting loaded boxes, and the reason
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: they're getting load of boxes is that teams aren't scared
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: of your passing game, and they're not scared of your quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: They're not scared of your weapons, and that gives them
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  Speaker 1: the ability to fortify run defense, which they know that
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: that's you would like to do. They realize that you're
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: not very good at it, but they're still gonna put
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: eight guys in the box and versus based personnel, and
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: then if you're in three wide, still go seven in
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: the box to have that extra defender in and prepare
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  Speaker 1: for the run game. So I mean that's part of it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the perimeter is not great either, Pete grinag Is,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: you know not. And I go back to what I
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: said in the offseason. I really thought that they should
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: have kept Marcedes Lewis, even though they signed Austin Seferian Jenkins.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it would have been a great mix having
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: the two of them and having another capable blocker, and
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: now they don't have that would have made a difference.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: It wouldn't have hurt having a tight end can block.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think Marcedes still blocks at a very
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: high level. But to go to the point that you
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: guys were kind of talking about, why didn't they run
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: more in the first half, I mean, look at them.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: Look at the first half numbers here. They are the
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: most effective runner in the first half of portals four
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: carries for twenty four yards Denny Westbrook in the reverse
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  Speaker 1: that Doug talked about, and he said that they should
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: have gotten more. Well they got nine. That was the
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: longest run by a non quarterback in the first half.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: Because Carlos had had five carries for eight yards. TJ
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: had one for three. So for your running backs, that's
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: six carries in eleven yards. So to get back to
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: the point where people want to say, why don't this
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: why doesn't this team get back to running the football more?
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: What out of though? What? What? What? Out of those
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: numbers encourages you to think that they could run the
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: ball in second half? How much? There not much there? Hey, Jeff,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: maybe they can make a deal for Mercedes. He only
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: played twelve snaps Chester. They played twenty two the week before,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: twelve the week before seventeen seven, fourteen and seven. That's
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: his total for the seasons. What do you send him
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: Turkey sandwich. I don't know that team that teams they're
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: gonna make a playoff push. Now, when you got a
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: quarterback like Aaron Rodgers, you're not trading any any component.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: I don't care how small of a role they play.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: You're very, very unlikely to do that. M a legitimate chance.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, they've got a great quarterback. I agree with you.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: But Jeff, let me ask you this, if they would
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: would you, if you're Jacksonville, would you do that? Give
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: a ham sandwich for Mercedes? Well, you know, like a
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: seven conditional. No, I'm not giving up a draft pick
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: from Mercedes. No, because I'm gonkind of sign him in
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: an off season, not giving up anything for him. I
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: would have done it back then. But can you run
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: the ball without a tight end, I'm not I'm not. No,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: I'll give up a six pack and a ham sandwich,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: but I'm not giving up a draft pick. No. What
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: what are there are options at tight end? If they
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: because there's not anybody there that ken block, So what
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: are your options? They put Shatley in last week and
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: he was bad. Well, I mean he was also trying
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: to block Clowney, but he but he wasn't it wasn't good.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: He wasn't good good. Clowney, Well, he's an offensive lineman.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: He's supposed to be like semi good at it. He
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: wasn't good. You gotta remember something. I mean, Clowney is long.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: It would be I think it would have been a
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: much better matchup if you had an offensive lineman that
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: had some length to play that spot. But the problem
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: is is that you've already lost a couple tackles and
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: you don't have a backup tackle that you feel comfortable
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: with playing that role. I mean still getting up to speed.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: So what's the options then going forward? If they want
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: to run the ball, what are their options? Well? I
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: hope that Eric Flowers can play some type of role,
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: if he's an extra offensive lineman or whatever. But uh,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: I mean that's the thing. But you don't have a
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: whole lot of How long does it take, though, for
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: a tackle signed to get up to speed on a
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: game plan? A couple weeks. He's been a couple of weeks.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: Hasn't he only a couple of weeks? It doesn't mean
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: one and a half. I mean he's been here for
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: two weeks, right, I mean two games? Give him three?
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: All right? Okay, give him three to I mean, what
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: what how is Bell? I haven't watched the table. How
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: was Bell yesterday when he blocked quarterbacks about the Bell dozer?
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, to be honest with you, Pete, I mean,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: there's nothing that stands out of that either either one
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: of the tight ends blocking. I don't think anything was bad,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: but the the tough part was blocking the interior. Fletcher
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: Cox and the rookie that they have, by the way,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: he's really good. Uh. Bruce Hector did a good job,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: and then Trayvon Hester also did a really good job.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: So they're they're good now. They're good up front. I
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: mean they can stop the run. Linebackers are active, they run.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: They insert Malcolm Jenkins in to be the extra guy
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: in the box. That's not an easy It's not an
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: easy thing for anybody to do. I mean they're going
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: coming to the game. They were giving up eighty five
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: yards again, Rushi eighty five yards a game, mh to
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Pretty good. Yeah, and you
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: came into the game running the ball the National Football
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: League six oclip. It's not a good matchup right there,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: especially when they can put the extra guy in the
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: box and that goes back to and I don't want
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: to keep going back to the quarterback or but I'm
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: not blaming the quarterback, but you have a better running
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: game when you have a quarterback that scares you, and
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: when you have weapons on the outside, on the perimeter,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: at the skill positions that scare a defensive coordinator, then
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: you're less likely to take Malcolm Jenkins and put him
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: in the box. Because if you had who on the outside,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: Who's who's a dangerous threat in the league? Odell Beckham,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: A J Green, Julio Jones. I mean, you name it,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: Adam Delon, Stefon Diggs who killed Tyreek Hill, and too Brown,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: Deianio Brown. I mean, it's a bunch of them, because
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: if you're facing DeAndre Hopkins is a great example because
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: because he's playing with a quarterback that's still young, but
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: you still as a coordinator, are scared scared of DeAndre Hopkins.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: I want to stay scared. You're respectful of his of
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: his skill set. So you're gonna go, I don't care
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: how young and an experience their quarterback is, We're gonna
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: put an extra guy that's gonna lean towards DeAndre Hopkins
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: because we know that if he gets his hands on
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: one ball, he could go the distance. That's what a
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: great weapon can do for you in the running game,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: a perimeter weapon. What what has happened to Keeling Cole? Why?
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, I thought youth, A lot of guys thought
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: that people in the building thought that he would go
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: to the next level. He flashed against New England and
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: hasn't done anything since. No, he had one handed catch
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: and everybody talked about him, and now if he hasn't
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: been able to even replicate anything anywhere close to that.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: And I was with you, Pete. I thought he was
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: taken the next step up. I thought that he could
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: lead this team and receiving yards. I didn't think he
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: could leave the team and catches because he's he's not
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: gonna be a high percentage target guy like a D. D.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: Westbrook would be, or like a Marquis League could have been.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: But as far as yards per catched, vertical threat, got
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: great speed, I thought he's got excellent deep ball ability.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: He's been a non factor this year. I mean, he's
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: been a non factor. And then we're ball on the ground.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: What do you do now with him? Do you sit
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: him down? Do you make a move there. What do
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: you do with him? Can he work out of it? Well?
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I keep throwing the ball.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: Oh you hope, you hope that he can work through it.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's showing you enough in your past. You're
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: not gonna cut him or anything like that. I mean,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: I think that would be an overreaction. But you definitely
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: take plays away from him and give more plays to
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: DJ Chark, even though DJ had his shortcomings in this
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: game as well by not catching the one in the
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: end zone and he had a drop I think right
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: in that game another when it was just the one drop,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: he didn't have to just one drop. But I mean,
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: you gotta get a guy like that more reps. I mean,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: if he's having a better more production, which he is,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: do you give him more reps. That's the way it is.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: But but this whole idea of when for net comes
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: back it's going to be a magical running a game
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: again needs to get out of people's O. No, no,
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen here. Seriously, other think Pete before
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: the game, I saw him warming up, warming up, like
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: running routes, running hard. Really I was watching that going
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: if you can do that. I think you can play.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: I was very surprised, Pete. Yeah, that's getting that's getting concerning.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: I wasn't the only one that noticed that. Mike Mayock,
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: Mike Mayott came up to me. It was like, so
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: I thought he was hurt. They're going through warm ups.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: I said, well, I thought he was too all right, Well,
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: he wasn't available, so I don't know. Maybe maybe up
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: to the by, I don't know. But again, he's a
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: runner to me. He's not like Fred or Maurice or
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: one of those guys. He's he needs the hole in
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: front of him to be there to go in, gonna
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: even gonna make guys miss and cut back and do
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. So they better start getting some push
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: somewhere else. He's not gonna run the ball either. Well
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I hope that they can
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: get a running game go on, because that's what they
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: need as an offense, because you're not gonna have all
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: of a sudden turn into this dynamic passing attack. I
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: think you could be solid, but for this team to
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: threaten teams and score points, you've you've got to have
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: the running game be a factor, and right now it's
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: not a factor, and for the opponents it has been
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: a factor. That you go back that the two previous
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: games you had a little head allowed a hunter yard
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: rusher in each of those games against Ezekiel Elliott and
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: then Miller of the Texans. And in this past game
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: the Eagles don't run it as much, but they're they're
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: rookie Adams nine carries for sixty one yards. That's pretty good, right,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: Smallwood eight four not a great number there. Clement four
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: for six, not a great number there. But the rookie
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: was effective, the kid from Notre Dame, he was effective.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: H logs. I'm gonna gonna get ready for television today, Yes, Pete,
• 1:31:09
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• 1:31:16
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• 1:31:19
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• 1:31:21
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• 1:31:23
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• 1:31:26
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• 1:31:27
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• 1:31:31
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• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: that's Brent, Rebirt, Brent, can we get the camera to
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: zoom in on? JP's eyes were fine. Okay, let's time out.
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  Speaker 1: But the recap of the games in the a f
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  Speaker 1: C South. The Titans are off yesterday. The Texans put
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  Speaker 1: up forty two on the Dolphins Thursday. DeShawn Watson had
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: five touchdown passes. Lamar Miller was big on the ground
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: and for the Texans are strengthening their hold on the
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: division right now, Pete, Yeah, they are, and uh, you
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: know it's gonna hurt them though. Losing will Fuller is
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: going to hurt them off. It's a great deal. I mean,
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: I I think that's gonna be really bad for them.
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  Speaker 1: Big play dude, Man, he could make a big play
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: guy down the Yeah, and Watson really likes him, you
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: can tell, so losing him is gonna hurt. But right
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: now they're the best team and they're you know, defensively,
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: they have some issues because of the secondary has been
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: a problem, but boy, that front can get after it.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: I still worry about their offensive line. JP. You know, look,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: there are two games ahead in the division, but by
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: no means is that a team that can run away
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: with the division. I just don't think they're good enough.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: The Colts also put up forty two on the Raiders
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: the final Andrew lucky thirty one three touchdowns for the air.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: Marlon mac had a big day. Three different Colts tight
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: ends caught touchdown passes in the game, a tight end
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: offense and endy. But it works for forty two points
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: for the Colts and they're now tied with the Jags
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: in the standings. Peak and you know what, JP, let
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: me read the rest of their schedule to you. Yeah, okay,
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: home against the Wars, Titans at home, Dolphins at home,
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: three home games in a row, right at Jacksonville, at
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: the Texans, home against Dallas, home against the Giants, and
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: at the Titans home games. If there is a team
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: that can make a little if they can beat Jacksonville
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: twice or even once, they have a chance to be
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: a playoff team. Seriously, can you imagine, Well, they should
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: have beat the Texans the first time because he went
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: for it. Remember, and don't you remember the Bengals game
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: in the first game of the season, Jack Doyle fumbled
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: with them going down there to go win that game. So, uh, look,
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: they've been in their games and and I don't think
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: they're that good a team. But that schedule, oh my gosh,
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: it's friendly in the quarterbacks heating up a little bit. Now,
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: what's Hilton's deal? Wasn't he banged up something going into this?
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: He was? He played though, I mean, but but that
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: guy is playing good football. The defense is getting better.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, they keep an eye on that because the Texans.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: If you look at Texans, I just think they have
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: so many issues on that team. And first and foremost,
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: that's the one thing. How about Andrew Luck hasn't been
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: sacked in fifteen quarters? How about that? Now? Yeah, because
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: I mean that's he's incredible with that offensive line there,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: and and and and the Texans schedule is a little bit.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the Texans schedule, it's a
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: lot tougher, right, Broncos, that's not that tough a game.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: Then you got the Titans game, which is a night game,
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: which is always a tough game. Colts Eagles, I mean,
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: they have some tough Redskins at at the Washington they
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: got the Browns. That's not a tough game the Jets.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: That shouldn't be a tough game. And then the Jacksonville
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: game is the end of the season. So look, it's
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: the schedule favors Indie. If they can beat the Texans,
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: they have a chance to win at the and it's
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: gonna be whoever beat when's their division games, right, that's
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: gonna what it's about. And the Jags have not won
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: any division games yet. By the way, here are the
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: a f C South standings through week eight, Houston leading
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: the way in the division with that five and three
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: overall record, two and one in the division, Tennessee at
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: three and four and a two and oh in the
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: division in the three and five oh and one in
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: the division, in Jacksonville three and five oh and two
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: in the division, and to home losses in the division.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: That is not the way to get it done at all. No,
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: that's not a That is a terrible way to play
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: in the division that when you look at it should
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: be a division that you should be winning. Is this
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: the uh? Is this the easiest division in football? Well?
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: The East, the NFC East, which they play, is not
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: very good either the most gettable. I guess I should say,
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, but look at the NFC East. I mean,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: the Eagles are probably the best team in the division,
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: but are how good they Jacksonville probably is playing poorly
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: as they could have won that game yesterday, had a chance.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: They had a chance against the defending world champion yesterd
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: How the Redskins, I mean the Redskins are you know,
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: they got a quarterback. Redskins have a darn good defense
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: that doesn't get the credit it deserves. Very good. I mean,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: when you look at their defense, they can they can
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: get after the quarterback, they can stop the run. They've
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: got good young defensive lineman. I mean, they had seven
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: sacks yesterday against the Giants, and the Giants offensive line
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: isn't very good, but their their defense is pretty pretty good. Now, JP, Hey,
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: how about your a f C South power rankings That
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: don't really matter, but let's get them anyway because their
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: power rankings and they don't. Yeah, well, I'll go Texans one,
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: Colts to Titans three, Jacksonville four. Jack's got to the
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: bottom fast on this thing that happened in a hurry.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: And and oh for October, it's not good. It just
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: hasn't been. It hasn't been a good month. I mean
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: when you look at at that team and where we
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: thought they were JP against after the New England game,
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: and how quickly they've gone off the ledge, and you know, look,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: you could blame Borders for a lot of it because
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: he hasn't played well. He's he's from that guy that
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: was in that game to the guy we see now.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: And he wasn't bad on He wasn't bad on Sunday,
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: I think. But he's not going to elevate a team.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: That's the problem. And if everything around him isn't working,
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: he's not going to elevate the team to the next level.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: He doesn't have a lot of help. The tight ends
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: aren't very good. They can't block the receivers, haven't you know?
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: I thought, you know we're talking with Jeff. I thought
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: Cole would go to the next step. He hasn't. Westbrook,
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: Flash has been dead, disappears. Um. You know, Chark should
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: be more than what he is. Moncrief is average. Is
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: average comes uh the offensive line? I thought a J
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: Cam would have a great year. He hasn't. Um the
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: left guard has been hurt and he hasn't played up
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: to his money. The left tackles a disaster, the center
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: is you know, above average, and then the right tackle
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: is inconsistent as heck and look good at times and
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: really awful at other times. So no running backs that
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: you know, for net has been hurt. I think the
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: fullback hasn't blocked as well when he's been in there.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: He hasn't done his job as well as he did
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: a year ago. So across the board you want to
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: play boardles, Okay, he hasn't played that well either, But
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: across the board, that side of the ball has had
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: major issues and it's kind of bled over to the
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: other side. Sure, and now yeah it is over the
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, especially with those those performances leading
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: up to the London game. But again, though you look
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: at it on paper, though JP, they haven't. Did he
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: give up a lot of points yesterday? Right, that's the
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: thing they're not like you know, now, the three long
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: sustained drives are a little different, you know, to seventy
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: five yard drives in a ninety five yard drive. But
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: what it shows is all that talk of the generational defense.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: If your generational defense, you don't let a team come
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: yards and drive against you, You rarely right when when
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: you get back to the game. So for me, there's
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of good on that defense,
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: but there's nobody. It's hard to find a guy who
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: is better than he was a year ago on either
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: side of the ball. If I ask you right now, JP,
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: who is better than they were a year ago on
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: either side of the ball? Pick one Marcel Darius, but
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: he was only in a small window last year. Came
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: at the break, right at the bye week. I guess
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: that's a great one defense. I don't know, Pete. I
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: mean Miles Jack is better than he was a year ago,
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: but I don't think he was. But he wasn't better
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: than he was in the postseason. Now the postseason he
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: was making splash plays, taking the ball away. Kelvin's not better,
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: Jalen's not better. The safeties aren't better. Boy is not
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: playing as well as he did last year, and go
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: and Gockway is better than his numbers would indicate, but
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: he's not as good as I thought he was gonna be.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: Calais hasn't been as good, although last yesterday he was
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: um playing through a lot of stuff too. By the
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: way I mean yeah, I mean well, look if you had,
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: if you had, you know, eleven of guys with his
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: heart and his desire, I think they'd be fine on
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: the defensi side of the ball. But again, I still
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: think a lot of it bleeds over from the end. Look,
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: all the problems stem from the quarterback not being able
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: to raise his game above everybody else, you know, and
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: they're all the good teams that quarterback can raise their
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: game above the stuff that's going around them, and he can't.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: He's got to have everything going perfectly. And look, that's
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: just who he is. They they had an idea, that's
• 1:45:42
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• 1:45:44
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• 1:45:46
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• 1:45:49
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  Speaker 1: Pete Prisco, CBS Sports Senior, Right, a lot of soul searching.
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  Speaker 1: then they will find when they win football games. And
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  Speaker 1: the Colts are definitely beat double, there's no doubt about that.
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  Speaker 1: Steelers after that Sunday night football. If they don't move it,
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  Speaker 1: they might if they lose that Colts game, they might
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  Speaker 1: move that. Oh I don't. I just don't know when
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  Speaker 1: maybe tomorrow, right today, tomorrow, So we might find out soon.
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  Speaker 1: On that one. It is the Steelers. It's a night game,
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  Speaker 1: So it makes sense to keep it um. But is
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  Speaker 1: this a team you want to put on primetime football
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  Speaker 1: right now? No? I think so let's go. But but
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  Speaker 1: let's just safe for the argument. They beat the Colts,
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: then that becomes an enormous game. Then on Sunday, come
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• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: rest of the schedule to me, I've got it right here. Colts, Steelers,
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: and then at the Bills. That's gettable, that's winnable. Home
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  Speaker 1: against the Colts at the Titans on a Thursday night,
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna be a tough game. So let's just say
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  Speaker 1: they beat the Colts, beat the Steelers, and they'll beat
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  Speaker 1: the Titans um and then the way they play and
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: they're not beating but because this is a relevant, irrelevant
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  Speaker 1: right now, at home against the Redskins, boy, that's a
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: tougher game than anybody thought it would be. And then
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: at the Dolphins and at the Texans. Yeah, I mean
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: scheduled for a team that can't score. It's gonna be
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: tough because they can't score. This is an era of
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: team scoring, and this is a team that can't score.
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  Speaker 1: You don't fit. You don't fit, you weren't built. And
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: again I'm gonna go back to something I've said all along.
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  Speaker 1: When you build your team to be a dominant defensive
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  Speaker 1: team and not an offensive team that can throw the
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: football around, you have a small window, and if everything
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• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: everything starts coming unraveled because your quarterback can't bail you
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  Speaker 1: out of it, then you've got major problems. And that's
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: what's happening. Let's go around the National Football League and
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: we talk about teams that actually do throw the football
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: around and can score, including the care on a Panthers
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: Cam Newton too through the air, one on the ground.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: The Panthers beat the Ravens, and he has really turned
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  Speaker 1: his thing around, his season around. He's playing very good
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: football here. Think about this, though, and this is how
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: quickly things can change. They beat the Giants on us
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: what sixties something yard field goal went to Washington lost
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: that game. We're trailing twenty one to nothing against the
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: Eagles in the fourth quarter seventeen nothing and rally with
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: twenty one points to win that game. And now they
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: come back and beat a good Ravens team at home.
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  Speaker 1: All of a sudden, now they're five and what are they?
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: Five and uh two? They are five and two yet
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: the five and two and they're in the thick of
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: the race and they could easily be eat three and four.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: It's incredible. It's how slim the margin is sometimes. But
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  Speaker 1: now they feel good about themselves. That's a difference. That's
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: a team that feels good about and and they have
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback, a quarterback, and they put up thirty six yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: The Bears gotta win over the Jets four Tan Trabisky
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: with a couple of touchdown passes. Yeah, but I mean
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: that's the Jets. The Jets rookie quarterback on the road.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: You gotta The Bears are four and three, and I
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: still don't know how good they are. Bengals over the Bucks.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: Jamie's Winston bench. Fitzpatrick will start this week. After Winston
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: threw four picks. It's the right thing to do. Uh.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: You know. They keep preaching to him over and over again,
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: do not turn it over, Do not turn it over.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: You have to be a hero. He keeps turning it over.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: They gotta win now, they gotta play. Fitzpatrick has he
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: done in Tampa. Probably new regime in Tampa. They don't
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: win so all across the board. Seahawks over the Lions.
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  Speaker 1: Three touchdown passes for Russell Wilson. They're playing good football,
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  Speaker 1: not throwing the ball a lot. They ran the ball bunch.
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  Speaker 1: Their offensive line is much improved, and I think you
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  Speaker 1: look around their defensive starting to grow up. Keep an
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  Speaker 1: eye on them. They could be a wild card team.
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  Speaker 1: Are you warmed up on the quarterback up there? Now?
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  Speaker 1: He's I've always said he was good, very good. I
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  Speaker 1: just don't think he's in the leak guy like um
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  Speaker 1: you know, Brady and Rogers and and Breeze. I just
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  Speaker 1: don't think he's in that class. A lot of people do,
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  Speaker 1: though they're wrong. Chiefs over the Broncos Mahomes speaking of
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  Speaker 1: a lead, he could be on his way. Four touch
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  Speaker 1: sound passes. Sammy Watkins had a couple of those. How
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  Speaker 1: do you stop them? You know, I'm not. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: letting slow death, fast death, take your pick. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: go down. Here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna take
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  Speaker 1: the fast death if you kill me, but I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: get my shots in and I'm gonna I'm gonna hit
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  Speaker 1: you and and take maybe get your you to die.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna do. Go down swinging your damn right.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sitting back and lett him beat me up. No,
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  Speaker 1: not at all. The Jackson, of course, got the first
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  Speaker 1: two picks of the year off Mahomes. But the Chiefs
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: are rolling right now after that win yesterday the Redskins
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: over the Giants twenty to thirteen. Adrian Peterson broke off
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: along when late Peter Sela. Yeah, and I mean I
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: could have run through that whole They kicked out and
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  Speaker 1: it was but he's still you know, it's amazing you
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: thirty three years old doing what he's doing. They're good
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  Speaker 1: on defense, by the way, really good, really good. Huh.
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  Speaker 1: The front is very good. The front seven is very good.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of picks yesterday, right, Yeah, the front seven, though,
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  Speaker 1: is really good. Steve was over the Browns. Hugh Jackson
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: and Todd Haley out Greg Williams and bounty Gate takes over.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they couldn't when you know this, JP, there's
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  Speaker 1: no way Greg Williams and Todd Haley could have co
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: existed on the same staff with one of them being
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: the head coach to two big egos. It wasn't working. Uh,
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: and you know that they got Freddie Kitchens is now
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator. Remember he worked under Bruce arians before,
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: so he's gonna probably throw the football up. And remember
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: he went to Alabama as well. Have you seen him?
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  Speaker 1: He was a quarterback at Alabama. Looks like he played
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: Tacoed album. Well he was big then too, by the way,
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: Pete and he led Alabama to winning the ninety six
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: Iron Bowl on a final drive. I remember I was there.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: I was sitting in the Legion field that night. It
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: was a great night, long time ago. That was when
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: you guys were just an average football team, before everything
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: started happening for you. They were what are you talking about?
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: They had just coming national titles. They could have won,
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: they lost to Florida. And then I was there, had
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: some good teams in the nineties. Yeah, for sure. It
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: was the No, this is a different animal right now.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: Cardinals over the Forts, rosing a couple of touchdowns. Cardinals
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: are done though, right, I mean, come on, he looked
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  Speaker 1: good though in the second in the fourth quarter of
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: that game. Byron Leftwich did a nice job as offensive coordinator.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: Byron Leftage will be a head coach in the National
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: Football Ague. Hey maybe he was something. Can come home
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: and coach the Jaguars. Boy, come on, come on, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: down the road, twe Gate down the road. I'm not
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: saying this year. Next year, I'm saying down the road
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: he's not ready to be a head coach yet. Rams
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: over the Packers time Montgomery fumbled the kickoff return, take
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: a knee, he was told to take a knee. I'm
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: surprised to haven't cut him today. You hear that story right, unbelievable.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: Mike Silver had the written story after the game. There,
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: if you're told to take a knee, take the knee,
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: I'd cut him tomorrow. Yeah he can help well, I mean,
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: what running back won't the Jaguars. Trader signed for good
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: point uh Saints so of Vikings Camara touchdown both ways,
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: receiving and rushing. Feeling with another hundred yard game and
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: losing effort. Bad fumble though they had a bad fumble
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: a cost him. They were going up to extend their
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: lead he fumbled. They turn that game around, all right.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: There you have at the weekend games, Monday Night football
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: a showdown, and I'll likely beat down in the a
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: f C East Tom Brady in the five and two
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: New England Patriots or thirteen and a half point road favorites.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: They'll visit the struggling two and five Buffalo Bills. They
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: retiring Thurman Thomas's number tonight. Will that help, Pete? They
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: can put Thurman Thomas back there today and he still
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: wouldn't matter. No, it's not helping. Uh. New England's gonna
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: go up there and put a number on them. They
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: will throw on them. Buffalo's defense, which had been playing
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: pretty well, didn't play very well last week. Um, and
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: so I think Brady Gronk's gonna be back. Gronk. You know,
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: Gronk has like hundred, two hundred and fifty yards in
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: the last two games in Buffalo. He's from up there.
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: He's gonna have another big game tonight. Then have it
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 1: Monday Night football. They're just now retiring Thurman's number has
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: been the Hall of Fame for a few years, and
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: I know it's weird. Pat, well done. We'll talk to you,
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: I guess next week, next week, next Monday. You got it, Prisco,
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: CBS Sports Senior Writer. All right, Pete, Tony Boselli and
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: London our thanks to Jeff Lagman on our entire crew.
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  Speaker 1: I'm JP Shatterck will catch you next time. It's Jaguars
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.