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Will Hockeytown Get a Women's Pro Hockey Team · Sports Exchange

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  Speaker 1: Good evening, everybody. Welcome to Hockey Night, National Hockey Night.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a sports My name is Scott Morgan off Motor City,
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  Speaker 4: Well and it's good to be back. Good to be back, Scott,
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  Speaker 4: thank you well.
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  Speaker 1: The title of the show is really a good one.
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  Speaker 1: Will hockey count get a woman thro hockey team? Get
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  Speaker 1: this North American record for attendance of a women's hockey
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  Speaker 1: game with fourteen thousand, two hundred and eighty eight at
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  Speaker 1: Little Caesars Arena in Hockey Town Detroit deserves for women
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  Speaker 1: for hockey. What do you think, mister Detroit?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I it might be easier said than done. There's
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  Speaker 5: a lot of work that goes into something like this,
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  Speaker 5: and the thing that really impresses me.
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  Speaker 4: Is that, you know, they did this last year.
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  Speaker 5: Last season, the women's League came in for one game
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  Speaker 5: and they did a really good job.
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  Speaker 2: Then.
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  Speaker 5: I think they had about thirteen thousand at that game,
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  Speaker 5: twelve or thirteen. But this year was even more special
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  Speaker 5: because obviously they set the record attendance record. And I
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  Speaker 5: don't know, I don't know if the fan base is
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  Speaker 5: solid enough to say we're gonna get one, but boyle
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  Speaker 5: boy Detroit sure has put its best foot forward to
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  Speaker 5: try to get a franchise. Because the fans turned out
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  Speaker 5: and they loved it, and it was just not just
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  Speaker 5: all ladies the girls, it's men and boys.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 5: The crowd's very mixed and everybody loves it. The women
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  Speaker 5: are playing some great hockey. So again, Detroit was one
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  Speaker 5: of these offshoots, the satellite, if you will, locations, but
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  Speaker 5: the league's got to be taken note of Scott, you
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  Speaker 5: bet you and I really think that Detroit would be
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  Speaker 5: a great place. I'm not sure when, but it would
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  Speaker 5: be a great place to have a franchise.
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  Speaker 1: What do you name, Mike.
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  Speaker 2: I'm also old women's hockey. I think the PWHL is
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  Speaker 2: is a great step forward, especially before this. We had
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  Speaker 2: a couple of I guess you'd call them rival leagues
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  Speaker 2: the last few years before last year. But I think
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  Speaker 2: they've got a walk before they run. I think they
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  Speaker 2: can learn a lot from the w NBA that's been
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  Speaker 2: around for more than twenty five years now. I also,
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  Speaker 2: I think it's great when they have big turnouts like
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  Speaker 2: they had in Detroit. They've had single game turnouts like
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  Speaker 2: that in places like Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa, but I'm not
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  Speaker 2: sure they are ready to sustain that even in Detroit,
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  Speaker 2: for a full schedule. And that's why I say they
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  Speaker 2: I think they need to walk before they run, especially
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  Speaker 2: in this country. I think, you know, there's a there's
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  Speaker 2: a longer tradition, not necessarily a better tradition, but longer
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  Speaker 2: tradition of women's hockey in Canada. I look at the
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  Speaker 2: team that plays in Boston and they play actually at
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  Speaker 2: the Songas Arena, which is where the UMass Lowell River
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  Speaker 2: Hawks play. It's about eight thousand seat building and they
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  Speaker 2: don't draw very well. That's, you know, thirty miles north
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  Speaker 2: of Boston, in you know, one of the hockey hot
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  Speaker 2: beds of the country. I don't honestly know how the
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  Speaker 2: team is drawn in Minnesota, and I know the team
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  Speaker 2: that plays in New York and Uniondale has really suffered
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to attendance. So you know, it's a
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  Speaker 2: long road. It's a long road. It's a different setup.
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  Speaker 2: The league itself is a single entity league, which for
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  Speaker 2: those who are listening, there's actually one person that owns
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  Speaker 2: the whole league and all the teams, you know, so
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  Speaker 2: all the hiring is done centrally from one location. I
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  Speaker 2: see some of the things that are happening this summer
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  Speaker 2: with w NBA players who are starting to think they
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  Speaker 2: can demand more money without maybe understanding that the NBA
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  Speaker 2: has propped that league up for years and years and
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  Speaker 2: now they've got a bonafide celebrity or star in Caitlin
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  Speaker 2: Clark and the girls and even the coaches in the
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  Speaker 2: league seem to treat it with jealousy instead of the
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  Speaker 2: respect that they should so they can grow their league.
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  Speaker 2: So again, I think there's a lot the PWHL can
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  Speaker 2: learn from the NBA to take their time and walk
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  Speaker 2: before they run. I think they'll be successful in the
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  Speaker 2: long run.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, RL Williams is a count of hell of guys.
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  Speaker 1: Schitzberg is getting a woman's hockey team which will start
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  Speaker 1: up in a few years of Penguins are sponsoring it. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: good to know.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Pittsburgh was. Pittsburgh was one of the original cities
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  Speaker 2: that were in consideration for a p WHL team. Last
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  Speaker 2: year they decided they decided against Pittsburgh for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 2: but I do know they were one of the final
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  Speaker 2: US cities that they were looking at.
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  Speaker 1: M I dare the w NBA players going straight that
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  Speaker 1: league will be broke so fast and ridiculous. I think
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  Speaker 1: they'd be overplaying their hands and making a huge mistake.
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  Speaker 1: Even if they try to do it. But we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: If they do that, that's the beginning of the end.
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  Speaker 1: I'll turn over to Mark.
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  Speaker 3: I think the NHL needs to get behind it a
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  Speaker 3: little bit more and throw more money into it if
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  Speaker 3: they really want to stabilize and substantiate what they have there,
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  Speaker 3: you know, if they want to grow that league. Definitely,
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  Speaker 3: I agree, it's going to take a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: time for those teams to to anchor down, get a
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  Speaker 3: fan base and have people coming in. That being said,
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  Speaker 3: I enjoy hockey, whether it's females playing or male's playing,
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  Speaker 3: you know, whether it's youth hockey or or you know,
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  Speaker 3: even beer league college. I just I love the game.
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  Speaker 3: I love watching the game, and if it's on TV
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  Speaker 3: and I'll stop and watch it for a while, I
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  Speaker 3: really will. No, that's not everybody's mentality, especially in North America,
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  Speaker 3: but I really hope that they're able to stabilize and
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  Speaker 3: get the NHL to get behind them a little bit more.
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  Speaker 3: With the w n b A, I know the NBA
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  Speaker 3: is behind them, they're funding them, and there's no way,
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  Speaker 3: there's absolutely no way their sellers are going to go
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  Speaker 3: up because they're not drawing at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 3: you've got to draw people to draw money. I think
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  Speaker 3: Angel Reese, I'm sorry, fellas, but she's way out of
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  Speaker 3: line the things she says. You know, she really wants
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  Speaker 3: to be, you know, admonished by everybody and be accepted
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  Speaker 3: as a superstar like she thinks she is. She ought
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  Speaker 3: to start aligning herself with Caitlin Clark instead of talking
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  Speaker 3: her down.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I agree one hundred percent with what
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  Speaker 2: you just said. As far as for them to succeed
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  Speaker 2: in the long run, they're going to need the NHL.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if the NHL is interested in getting involved.
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  Speaker 2: They don't seem to be at least at this time.
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  Speaker 2: But you mentioned w n B A. I mean the
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  Speaker 2: w n B A is on ESPN because it's it's
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  Speaker 2: broken as part of the n b A package that's
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  Speaker 2: negotiated the n b A. You know, they they you know,
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  Speaker 2: when they broke these packages for TV, they say that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, if you if you want to do our
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  Speaker 2: NBA games, you have to do x amount of w
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  Speaker 2: n B A games as well, and you've got to
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  Speaker 2: feature them on Sports Center, and you've got to do
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  Speaker 2: all these things to help promote the w b A,
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  Speaker 2: and frankly, I think you know, in the long run,
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  Speaker 2: the p w h L is going to need the
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  Speaker 2: same type of support from the NHL if they really
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  Speaker 2: want to get to the mainstream hockey fan and one
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  Speaker 2: other things. Again, I agree with that there's nothing wrong
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  Speaker 2: with the game or the sport. Uh. The women play
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  Speaker 2: the game great, and it's it's an interesting game, it's
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  Speaker 2: an exciting game. But it's just you know, they're they're
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  Speaker 2: they're walking up hill in this country when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to women sports, and I think I think the Barber's right.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're going to need the NHL input at
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  Speaker 2: some point.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing I'll say it to close off the topic.
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  Speaker 1: Have a lot of big stuff today is Katie and
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  Speaker 1: I are looking forward to going to the NCAA Women's
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  Speaker 1: Final Four in Tampa. It's going to be quite an
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  Speaker 1: event and I'm looking to get a lot of great
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  Speaker 1: content out there, and this would give me a really
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  Speaker 1: good feel for how much the sport has grown, especially
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  Speaker 1: in the collegiate level. This is you talk about your
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  Speaker 1: big marquee event with the wrestling event, Mike, I can't
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  Speaker 1: wait to tell you what the stories I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: come away with for the women's final four in Tampa,
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  Speaker 1: and I think the University of Software in my alma mater,
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  Speaker 1: for having handed us getting passes.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well this past weekend they just had the the women's
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  Speaker 2: I was in four in Minnesota and it was an
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  Speaker 2: overtime final. Actually, Wisconsin tied it up with a with
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  Speaker 2: a penalty shot goal late late in the third period.
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  Speaker 2: A girl played the puck in the crease with her
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  Speaker 2: hand and set up a penalty shot. Wisconsin coach Mark
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  Speaker 2: Johnson threw all the girls in front of the bench
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  Speaker 2: and asked who wants to take the shot, and the
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  Speaker 2: first girl that raised her hand, he put her out
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  Speaker 2: there and she scored, and they ended up winning an
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  Speaker 2: overtime beating Ohio State.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Candy's smiling in the background. I heard that all
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  Speaker 1: we want. Come on, Candy showed out there in public,
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  Speaker 1: DA you have the right to put yourself on here
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  Speaker 1: and there she got her celebratory Moore.
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  Speaker 6: Well, yes, they actually had an awesome season. I think
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  Speaker 6: they only had like one or two losses the whole season,
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  Speaker 6: and they outscored their opponents by a huge amount. So
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  Speaker 6: and I'm it's just amazing what they did. This year
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  Speaker 6: and this is actually Wisconsin's eighth national championship for women.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, pretty much? All right, well when you brought that out, Mike,
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  Speaker 1: Now I'm looking forward to seeing Connecticut win the whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: So I can mean you know Oreamo, so there you go.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that he would be incredible. I hate to
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  Speaker 1: see Juju Watkins go down, but my goal is.
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  Speaker 2: To see you knew.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's go ahead and continue on the
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  Speaker 1: men's frozen pond. This is an interesting story. When the
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  Speaker 1: Edmonton Oilers loss of the Florida Panthers four to three,
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  Speaker 1: they're fifth straight on February twenty seven, coach Chris Knaubloch
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  Speaker 1: was quotas as saying, I felt like there were a
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  Speaker 1: few passengers and there were some guys that didn't put
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  Speaker 1: the effort we needed. And the Coilers currently are forty one,
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  Speaker 1: twenty four and five minutes third in the Pacific. So, Mike,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you this, okay, because you're you're probably
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  Speaker 1: more into it, and other guys can comment on it,
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  Speaker 1: but I really want to hear your point of view
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  Speaker 1: probably the most. Is that a common expression these days
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  Speaker 1: by coaches?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's common, but in the last
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks there's been a couple of coaches that
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  Speaker 2: have actually said something similar. One of them lost his
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  Speaker 2: job today and the other one, Andrew Burnett Nashville, said
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  Speaker 2: it a couple of weeks ago. But so yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if it's something that's that's being commonly said.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it was fair or not. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he knows his team better than I do, but I
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  Speaker 2: do know that that team, to me looks like a
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  Speaker 2: tired hockey club. I mean, that's a team that went
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  Speaker 2: to the brink Game seven last year in Florida, like
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  Speaker 2: every like you know, like everybody that goes that far,
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  Speaker 2: they had a short time to recover. And then when
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  Speaker 2: you think of the Edmonton Oilers, no one has as
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  Speaker 2: much travel over the course of the season as the
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  Speaker 2: Edmonton Oilers, and I think I think they're just a
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  Speaker 2: worn down hockey team. And and playing in the West
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  Speaker 2: this year doesn't help. I mean, there's some real strong
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  Speaker 2: teams Colorado, Dallas, Winnipeg, Las Vegas, or Vegas. You know,
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  Speaker 2: even teams like LA are strong contenders. So there there
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  Speaker 2: are too many easy nights in the Western Conference and uh,
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  Speaker 2: and now they're still trying to get there. They're two
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  Speaker 2: top players Leon Dry Syttle and Conomic gave it back
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  Speaker 2: healthy before the playoffs starts, So it's uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I just think that I just think that they've they've
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  Speaker 2: had a lot to overcome in the last ten months,
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  Speaker 2: and it's uh in its the tired team.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well that's a good point because when I saw
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  Speaker 1: the wed a few passengers, thinking to myself and then
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  Speaker 1: and like you said, Mike, I've been seeing this a
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  Speaker 1: lot in the last few weeks. Hockey's a one sport
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  Speaker 1: where these guys put everything they've got in all the
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  Speaker 1: time that I hear Chris Baubach saying that obviously they're
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  Speaker 1: on the heels of their fist rate, lost in health either.
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  Speaker 1: You just try to put connect the dots and that's
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  Speaker 1: what you end up getting. But yeah, I guess Top
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  Speaker 1: Tire Hockey Club, George and Mark real quickly, Okay, your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts about tired passengers A few passengers.
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  Speaker 4: I think even in Detroit, barber you know, we see it.
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  Speaker 5: You know, we saw it with the before they quire Lalan,
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  Speaker 5: the team was just going nowhere, not making any sense
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  Speaker 5: at all with what they were trying to accomplish. And
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  Speaker 5: then when Stevie White got rid of him right after Christmas,
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  Speaker 5: h Todd mcclollin came. Todd did a really good job,
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  Speaker 5: they started really well, and then they started going back
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  Speaker 5: to some bad, bad patterns, bad habits, and a few injuries.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just saying in Detroit, I think I think you know,
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  Speaker 5: every player in the NHL, whatever professional sports got looked
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  Speaker 5: themselves in the mirror and say, hey, look I'm giving
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  Speaker 5: my best effort. Now we know it's impossible. They can't
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  Speaker 5: do it every single game. It's just not physically possible.
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying during the whole year. Now, you know, playoffs
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  Speaker 5: that's different. You know you got to be up for that.
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  Speaker 5: But I'm saying for the whole year. But when you
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  Speaker 5: hear coaches making comments like this, we're insinuating stuff like that.
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  Speaker 5: Because Todd insinuated a little bit about the Red Wings
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  Speaker 5: recently too. But it's it's it wakes you up, It
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  Speaker 5: really does. It makes you wonder what are these guys doing.
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  Speaker 5: And like I said, again, I'm not a player, so
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  Speaker 5: I can't say that they get up or don't get
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  Speaker 5: up one game or the other. But it just seems
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  Speaker 5: like it's happening more if you hear the coaches talking
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  Speaker 5: about it like this public publicly.
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  Speaker 1: Anything you want to add Barbera to, I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: think you have five to two loss on the heels
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  Speaker 1: of a fifth Graat loss. So and then you put
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  Speaker 1: it together. And bear in mind though the oilers are
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  Speaker 1: still insert in the Pacific, so there's still very much
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  Speaker 1: in a ticke of things out last go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Like Mike Steddough, that's a team without dry cdle and
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  Speaker 3: you know McDavid and dry Sitle is going to come
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  Speaker 3: back before McDavid first of all, so that that should
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  Speaker 3: be interesting to see how this thing closes out for them.
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  Speaker 3: But coaches wouldn't have to try and motivate their team
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  Speaker 3: by saying things like that if they have leadership inside
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  Speaker 3: the locker room. You know, sometimes you've got to close
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  Speaker 3: that door after a couple losses and reorganize as grown
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  Speaker 3: men who play a professional sport. It shouldn't take the
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  Speaker 3: coach to have to say something like that to do that.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't fault the coach at all for that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that fuck actually fellas from my perspective, I
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  Speaker 3: think it falls back on the leadership of that team.
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  Speaker 3: I think it falls back on McDavid. I think it
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  Speaker 3: falls back on dry Sidle. You know, fellas close the
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  Speaker 3: damn door and get it right, get it right in
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  Speaker 3: the locker room. Because the coach doesn't play the game.
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  Speaker 3: He tells you what to do. You play the game.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's not kid ourselves, connor Rick David. We know
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  Speaker 1: is the face of the franchise that they're always going
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  Speaker 1: to fire the coach first anyways, and not the players.
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  Speaker 2: That's a given. If there's one team in the league,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, as you mentioned, Detroit Columbus has taken a
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  Speaker 2: nose dive here recently. I mean Boston has taken a
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  Speaker 2: big dive. Close it. There's one team that deserves some slack.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's Edmond Tenth.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, and next I just you know, next week, on
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  Speaker 1: next Week's for Days, we're gonna talk about the coaches
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  Speaker 1: that have been met though so far we won't do
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  Speaker 1: it tonight, but we're only gonna talk about one of
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  Speaker 1: them tonight. And today that's John Tortorolla was fired by
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  Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Flyers, who's lost six in a row, eleven
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  Speaker 1: of their last twelve haven't made the playoffs. In his
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  Speaker 1: three years, he was ninety seven, one oh three and
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  Speaker 1: thirty three with Philly. His career mark is seven seventy six,
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  Speaker 1: forty eight and one sixty five with thirty seven times,
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  Speaker 1: ninth all time on the on the old Time was
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  Speaker 1: and the second most USA born coaches after Pere lobby
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  Speaker 1: Let with eight forty one. He has obviously seven hundred
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  Speaker 1: and seventy wins and as I mentioned Bradshaw as the
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  Speaker 1: interim coach, Michael's start with you, John Tortorolla, he's a
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: heck of a coach. Do you think he's probably do
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: you think this might have been his last coaching style? Uh?
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: He was a rebuild here, so that wasn't the easiest
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: situation for him to walk into, and he knew it.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: And the Flyers have gone through a lot of coaches lately.
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think this was the necessarily the right
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: situation for him, right, but there's only thirty two jobs,
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: and if somebody offers you one of them and you're
• 18:21
  Speaker 7: an NHL coach, you take it. I also don't think
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: this was necessarily a good time to make the move.
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: I mean they could have waited a couple of weeks
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: rightly not gonna.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: It's not really not going to make a difference. If anything,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna it's going to make an excuse
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: for those players that are still in the locker room
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: for the last couple of weeks do not have to
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: worry about it, you know, where at least I think
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Towrderella your practices still it would have been would have
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: been you know, fruitful, they would have gained some development
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: in the next few weeks. I mean, he would have
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: got more out of these guys than, you know, than
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: an interim coach he's going to get. It just really
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: makes you know the ultimate problem they're glaring, which is
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: there's no plan, right you know they and you know,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: you got to Keith Jones, he's the President of Hockey Operations.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: You got to point to Danny Brier, he's the GM.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: But they've been there a couple of years now and
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: there's no plan there. I think they're probably in worse
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: shape now than when they started the season. They still
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: don't have a clue about what they're doing with their
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: goaltending in the future, right they you know, they've got
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: you know, two players maybe connect me and and meetch
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: goff who are you know, or going to help it
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: in the future. But they've got nobody to help them,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: nobody around them. They don't know what type of team
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: they want to be. They're not loaded with early draft picks,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: you know, to start rebuilding the team. Like I just think,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I think this isn't about coaching. This is about they
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: need it. They need a real plan there and figure
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: out what direction they want to go in, and then
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: you can decide, you know, what type of coach you
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: want to bring in. I mean, Anaheim did this a
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: couple of years ago when Pat Verbik went in there,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: he you know, he had a plan this. So we're
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: going to rebuild it, and I'm going to hire a
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: coach that can help me build this thing. He hired
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Greg Cronin and went in there, and now you see,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, they were a little bit better last year.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Now this year, they're a five hundred team. Next year,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: I expect Bill challenge for a playoff spot. And he
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: had a guy like, for instance, Zegris, who was floundering
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: there and now he's you know, he's put guys around him.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: They made you know, they made a great trade, uh
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: this winter with the Rangers to get a veteran leader
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: in there, a captain of all things. And now they've
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: you know, now they're on the track because they have
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: a plan. I think. I think that's what Philly misses
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: more than anything as a plan.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: All right, so keep in behind it. Piladelthy lost them
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: to to Toronto, and Tortrella came down on himself. I
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: wasonder really begging to get fired last night, just to
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: get out of there, because to let a guy go
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: with nine gave leppinot eighty one game season to see
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: the strange. I just don't seem to get that logic.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Maybe he was begging to get fired. Maybe Rare said, yeah, okay,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: go away, you're burned out. I don't know the logic.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: You know, even willyne Fox want's going to phrase what
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: does it take? Or no, Darryl Rodgers once said what
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: does it take to get fired? Around here? Brillion play
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: for it said all right, you're out, Wayne FONX. But George,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: you don't have to get into that. I'm just talking
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: trying to compare the two situations.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: That's all.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Well, I think I do. There's one place that is
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: going to take a look at him, and it's the
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: place where he's from, and that's Boston. They need to
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: go out. He's a Boston guy, Okay, and I think,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: you know, depending on what Boston's plan is, I think
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: they'll at least take a look at Towrdoreallo for next year.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Interesting, Okay, hey, and you you two want to add
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: to it.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that Torrellan has shelff no matter where coaches,
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: you know, whatever he's trying to do, he gets so
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: far with it and his shelf life runs out. I
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: don't know if it's because of the way he handles
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: the guy at the end of the day, you know,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Like I have no idea from that perspective, but he
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: definitely has a shelf life. He keeps moving on, he
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: can get a team started. He'd probably be a better
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: assistant coach than anything as far as you know his tactics,
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: so a head coach can kind of rewa them back
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: when he's getting himself a little bit up in a tizzy. Mike,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: do you remember, though, like maybe five or six years ago,
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: when the Lehigh Valley team like they were loaded with
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: talent and I don't I don't understand what happened there
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: where those guys all go. The Flyers should have been
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: off the chain by now with the talent that they
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: had there good granted, you know, they lost heart, I
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: get that, But the other guys that they had, what happened.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they made a lot of bad moves
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: and and didn't restock the coupboards. And I think that
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: was you know, the previous management team. I mean, before
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: that it was Chuck Fletcher, and then before that it
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: was was at Home Run. Again, I forget, but but
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I think those guys were, you know, we're trying to
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: get there too fast, maybe to save their own jobs.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: They made a couple of ill advised moves with the Flyers,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: you know, with some with some of those high priced
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: guys that they got stuck with and then didn't move
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: at the deadline, and and here they are, you know,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: And then I mean they've made they've made a ton
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: of coaching changes here, you know, Mike Yo and Scott Gordon.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: I mean it's been a revolving door. I mean, of
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: course Tortorella hasn't made it through two full seasons. And
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: then with the management change, I mean again there's there's
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: no plan from up top, and until they get a
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: plan in place. I don't know what to tell them.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Georgia, any final thoughts real quick before we go to
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: the station break.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: Well, he's the general manager, was quoted as saying, Yeah,
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: Twartz is a complicated man. He's a complicated coach, but
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: he's a blast to work with because he challenges you.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: I truly believe he made me a better general manager.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: Well, he might have loved working with him, but obviously
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: they didn't see the progress that they should have. I mean,
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: you've got to go back to his last Stanley Cup, when,
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: of course was with the Lightning in two thousand and four.
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: That's a long ways away. I don't think the game
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: has passed him by. I do think he's a good coach,
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: and whatever happened at Philadelphia, it just was a sad situation.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: Did not ever expect it to be like this, So
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: basically the same that you guys are saying.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, they have no identities. Yeah, I mean they
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: were always I mean, of course back in the seventies
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: and even in the eighties, the nineties, and and you know,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: even ten years ago they were. They were always a
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: big physical team, even guys when they had guys like
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: heartnel right and yeah, and those kind of guys. But
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: they're just not a down and dirty, physical, hard to
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: play against team. They have no identity at all.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: I can tell you this. I see the press conferences
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: and I would really like to meet Tortorella. I really
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: would for some reason or another. I don't know why
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I feel I could relate to this guy, I really do.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: I'm a fiery intense individual myself. I'm not afraid to
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: admit it at time, because when you want to win, Mike,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: who doesn't have that fiery intense site on the planet.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Some people show it in a different way. I don't know.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: He does the best he can to relate with the media,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: but he had been a winner wherever he's gone. Some
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: of the situations he's inherited haven't been very good. But
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: as Mark alluded to, John Tortorella does have shelf life left.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: This was a dysfunctional, toxic situation with no direction at all. Teacheroks,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: like you said, I've been there a couple of years
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: in court, Daniel Breer, all right, so you wanted to
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: let them go with nine games left, We'll see you
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: at Bradshaw no relation to Terry Bradshaw, Okay, does the
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: rest of the way. All right, We're gonna go to
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: a station break a few more topics. We're gonna find
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: out how much fun at Mike had last week. I'm
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: definitely looking forward to get some story a few more
• 26:24
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• 28:13
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• 28:16
  Speaker 1: your experience at the twenty twenty five Wrestling Championships have
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: throwed out there from Mark twenty twentieth of the twenty
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: second that's all you're with, Mike.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a fantastic experience. I mean, whether you're wrestling,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: you're not a wrestling fan, It's something I'd encourage anybody
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: to take in. It's just three great days morning session
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: and evening sessions. Wells Fargo Center and Philly did a
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: great job. And uh, you know, the matches were fantastic,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: especially the semi final and the final matches. And we
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: had the ten weight classes. We had five that went
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: into overtime in the final, and of course we had
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: a great conclusion in the heavyweight match with Steveson going
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: down in the last twenty seconds. It was it was
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: a fantastic weekend. I had the opportunity to uh to
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: sit actually right next to Anthony Roblaze, who if people
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: don't know who that is. He was. There's a movie
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: out right now called Glory, which you know, which tells
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: the story of his life. He was born with one leg,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: walked onto the Arizona State Wrestling tom and h and
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: ended up winning a national championship in twenty twelve as
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: one way to wrestler for Arizona State. So I'd encourage
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: everybody to check out that movie. It's a it's being
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: streamed right now. And if if anybody's interested. Jennifer Lopez
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: plays his mother in the movie, so maybe that'll get
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: some people interested. But yeah, great, great event. You know,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: there was a there was the rematch of Mendez and
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Hardy from last year when Mendes put Hardy in the
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: in the splay hill, you know, in the semi finals,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: and then they rematch in the in the finals this
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: year at one hundred and thirty one, and uh, Hardy
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: goes up five to oh and then Mendes comes back
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: and ends up wins the match twelve nine. That was
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: a fantastic match Cardistarachi one hundred and eighty four with
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Penn State wins his fifth national championship unpresidented. It's just
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: a great night all around.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, great, So we'll leave it at that.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Two more topics and next year in Cleveland, if anybody
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: wants to go, I'll be going.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Oh ya, oh, you make this an annual thing for
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: you every year.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: That's not far. That's not far.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Georgia will make that one. If he can't get if
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: he can't go there, all go to archidential department. So Trivia,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: we'll get you the other thing too.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Just mentioned to Penn State ran away with the team
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: title is the highest point for at over one hundred
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: and seventy points.
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: So and I remember, I remember, Mike, a couple of
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: weeks ago, you told us you said Penn.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: State was gonna win that team title. You were absolutely right, Mike.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they had ten All Americans, which essentially which means
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: that they had an All American in every weight class.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: That's how.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: I know that's something you can hit next year. Okay,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: a couple more topics I want to get to was
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: sir Ga Rabraski moves into the tenth all time and
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: goalie wins. I'll just give you his record for twenty six,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: two thirty nine and fifty seven times. Mike, this guy,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: to me has a Stanley Cup in his pocket one
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: and Columbus one in Florida. Where do you think that gave?
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Lebroski ranks amongst the best goaltenders of all time?
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Boy, that's that's tough. I mean, I I think he's,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: you know, definitely of all time. He's definitely a top
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: twenty goaltender. It'd be hard to put him in the
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: top ten. I mean, he's been absolutely lights out the
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: last two years. Now. Need him to be lights out
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: this year, especially because they're going to need to finish
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: in first place. But I there's been so many great goaltenders,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: I mean just just at the top of mind. You know,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Patrick Mardi, Brodor, you know Ben Dryden, Jerry Cheevers. I mean,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: there's there's just been so many of them. It's it's hard. Yeah,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Dominic Kashick, I mean, like we could go on and on, right,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: We're not We're not even touching the Terry Sawchuk so
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: the Glen Halls or any of these types of people,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: you know. I mean, here's one for you. Is Is
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: he better than Tom Barrasso? Not at this you know,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: not at this point, right. I mean Barasso had a
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: couple of Cups, won some Vesdant Trophies, So yeah, I
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: mean maybe a top twenty guy. But that's where I
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: put him right now and nothing that by the way,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: all right, what do you guys think.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: I align myself with Mike on that. I think he's
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: a top twenty guy. I don't think he performed quite
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: as well and Columbus as he has in Florida. But
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: also the system he's playing in front of in Florida
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: dictates itself to a kind of a kind of a
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: four line. Let's get out there, skate skate, hard played,
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: two hundred play two hundred feet, helped the goalie out,
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: come back, help the goalie out, whereas maybe he didn't
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: get so much of that in Columbus. He was also
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: in Columbus in the earlier days when they were still
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: trying to find their feet, and I believe wasn't he
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: there with torts? Was he there with torts?
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: He probably was?
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, but no, I agree with Mike.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: I think he's a top twenty guy. I don't know
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: if he'll I don't know if he'll ever climb into
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: the top ten. I like the Barrasso throw out there, Mike,
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: that was a good one. I mean I watched him
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: play in person. He was magnificent day.
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: What about you, George, Well, I think that he does
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: deserve top twenty, but I wouldn't go any higher than
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: that either.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: You know, we were blessed in Detroit.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: You mentioned Hashik and you know curs Osgood and Mike
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: Vernon when Detroit won its Cups. But this guy, he's
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: Surgey is just he's a really good athlete, really good athlete.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: He's really great at goaltending. I mean, they're blessed to
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: have him, and I really think that. You know, there's
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: more time to talk about the awards or Paul's of
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: Fame and that sort of thing later on, but I
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: think Florida's has got everybody wanted to see if they
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: can do it again Stanley Cup and other Stanley Cup,
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: and he'd be the man to do it.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: You know how well, you guys, I'd put him in
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: the top twenty. I'm gonna throw another name out of here.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: I'm just really curious. How about Churst Joseph? Is he
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer? He played nine hundred and forty
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: three career games of four hundred and fifty four wins. Mike,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: what do you think about Curtis Joseph?
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Uh? Before two years ago, I would have said, no,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: he's not a Hall of Famer, But you're gonna put
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: goalies like mc vernon in the Hall of Fame. I
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: think he's every bit as good as Mike Vernon. And
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: that's no Mike Vernon. It just means if that's what
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: the standards are, I think that sure. I think he
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: measures up fine.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Chris, what do you think weren't?
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I would agree he played in that era with
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: with Eddie belfour and and you know Barasho that that
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: was a pretty good goalie era, that Dominic kashik Uh,
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: you know bro Door that there was some really good
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: goalies store in that era. I could see, like you said, Mike,
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: if you're gonna, if you're gonna put a guy like
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Vernon in there, you gotta definitely give Joseph his his
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: fair due.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: What about you, George, I'm not so sure.
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: I mean we he had a real tough time in
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: Detroit with the Red Wings. Uh thanks, justin not work
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: out for him. I guess my viewpoints, so I'll handed
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: because of that, I'm not so sure he's a Hall
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: of Fame. I'm not your sir, Chris. Honigoos at a
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: Hall of Famer and he won two Cups. So I'm
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: gonna say no for now.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: On ku Joe, I'm up in the air about him.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: We'll see what happens, all right. Last topic of the night.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Since the Four Nations Tournament, the worst records include the
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Chicago Blackhawks three ten and two, Boston three eight and three.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Reve He's four ten and one. Not looking good against
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: all of the last night I saw they were trailing
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: two to nothing. Philadelphia was four eight and two. San
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Jose four seven and two, Buffalo five eight and one,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Columbus five seven and one, New Jersey six eight and no,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Vancouver six eight and one in Pittsburgh ends up being
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: six seven to one. All right, we'll start with you, George.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: What's happened to these teams? And do you think any
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: of them will be able to dig out of this?
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, you mentioned it earlier, Mike about
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: you know, we see teams like Detroit and Boston, great franchises,
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: great fans, great teams of years gone by.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: I don't I.
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: Think really that putting those guys right in like Detroit
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: at an afternoon game, and so Larkin and Raymond had
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: walked right into that lineup. They got like zero rest
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: after the Four Nations, And I know you don't want
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: to harp on that, okay, because there's other guys on
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: the team. Detroit was I guess you could say one way,
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: fortunate they only had two players going, but that took
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: a lot out of a lot of people. But that
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: being said, yeah, the way the Red Wings have failed
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: and Boston I think are two of the glaring ones
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: for me, Scott.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Well, Mike, you heard the list. Well, any of them
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: get out of this into a playoff?
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: No, no, I mean, and some of them have already
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: given up, right, I mean Boston, Boston made the decision
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: at the trade died line to to get rid of
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: you know, anybody there, Yeah, including including their captain marsha On.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: But you know, if you want to bring up the
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Four Nations again, talked about this before. I mean, New
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Jersey's all those teams that you just mentioned, it's in
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: a slide. They lost perhaps their best player, right and
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: use and you know another another team that you mentioned
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: that we just talked about, Boston, they lost their number
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: one defenseman and Charlie McAvoy in the Four Nations, So
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: you know, I think it's gonna be pretty tough. You
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: want to talk about guys like Lark and of course
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: like it's a it's tough to play intense hockey like
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: that for two weeks, right, and you know, twenty four
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: or forty eight hours later, you're right back at it
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: with your team fighting for a playoffs spot. That's uh.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: You know, all the other guys just got off a
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: plane from can Kun and yeah, and you are, and
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: you're more beaten up than when you left. So I yeah,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be tough. I mean, the teams
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: that have started on the downward slide, I don't think
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: they're going to recover.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, what about you, Mark, Well, obviously I'm a
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Penguin fan.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: You know that.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: You guys all know that I've just watched nothing but
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: a noseedive. They're getting scorched by the Buffalo Sabers tonight
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: six to one. Wow. Yeah, it's just it's been it's
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: been really, really, really really bad hockey. They did have
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: a small streak of about four four wins in a row,
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: but they just got lit up by Tampa Bay. What Saturday,
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: they got lit up tonight. This team is it's in limbo.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: They've got they have no chance of making the playoffs,
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: and Dubus has sold off anything he could. He has
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: a thirty draft picks over the next three years to
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: play around with, and he needs to figure out what
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: exactly he wants to do with this team because he's
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: doing Sidney Crosby just Sidney Crosby a disservice in my opinion.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: You know, Crosby got his point tonight. He has twenty
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: consecutive seasons of having a point a game, which he
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: passed Gretzky by doing that.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, so.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: That's my feel.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Kudus to guy like him, because you know, you look
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: around the league and you see some of these other
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: veteran players that are on teams that are sinking the
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: standings and they're not they're not out there playing like
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: he is every night.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: Mike.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: He refuses to leave Pittsburgh. Yeah, they they the Congress
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: have been offered a lot. He said, I'm not going anywhere. Yeah,
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be here when we're when when you're good again.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: And he but every game, game in, game out, no
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: matter what the situation, he gives it as all. I mean,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: I look at Nashville, for instance, with mar Giso and
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Stankous and those types of guys, and you know they're
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: just they're just playing out the string. Yeah, and then
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: you've got you've got teams. I mean, I'd throw Detroit
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: in in this bucket right now as a team that
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: probably if they were going could fight for one of
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: those last playoff spots. But I don't believe in that
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: room they think even if they made the playoffs that
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: they could win around.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Probably not, but just the idea of getting that big
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: playoff brow off their back would be done, I think.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: But yeah, right now, the way that things are looking
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: for the Wings, I don't think any of these teams
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: are going to get out of this at all. I
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: think it's really de Jon lou for a lot of them.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I really do. The revelings are running out, simply running
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: out of lives.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think the interesting teams in the East
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: are Montreal. I think Ottawa was going to do it.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: I do too at this point. I mean, they like,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: they're a team that that was you can tell that
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: was their goal. We're getting in the playoffs this year
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: and uh and that was goal number one for them,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: and then you you know, I think Montreal smells it
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: a little bit now. And the team that really surprised
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: me because I thought a few weeks ago they were
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: going to go away as the Islanders. But they're knocking
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: on the door. Were a spot now too.
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: So any final thought, George, no, I echo the sentiments.
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: I mean, like we talked about earlier, there's guys that
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: got it, and like you said, Mike, you know veteran
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: players that just seem to be dogging ed just in Detroit.
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: But there's, like you said, other teams that have gotten
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: off to this can't get off the schneid.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: I really think that there's got to be uh. I
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: don't know what they're going to do in Detroit. I
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: don't know. Eisaman is getting his share of criticism, which
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: he deserves.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: But we'll talk more about the Reverends next week. I
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: have a lot of things I want to get to
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: the night that were important, and we'll talk about them
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: because we'll have more clarity over the weekend. After they
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: played the Boston Bruins, which is a nationally televised game
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: on ABC. Actually on the ATM you know, an interesting
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: storyline about ABC here locally, Local ten is no longer
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: the ABC affiliate that they won't be until August, so
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: they ended up having to go to Channel seven. I
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: don't know if you heard about that night, Yeah they did.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: They're going to be changing it a little bit to
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: another Sunbeam location. So interesting how things Local ten. I
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: was talking to Will man So at the Miami Hurricanes
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: pro day and I did attend that on I think
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: it was Monday, and it's pretty weird stuff. So there'll
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: be an independent station, but you'll still be able to
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: get ABC here in the area, just at a different spot.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: And they've been faffiliated with ABC for sixty eight years. Yeah,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: it just goes to show you how the media industry
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: and the landscape define changes. So great show tonight, and
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I know we got to a lot of great stuff, Corrella.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: I think he'll land again, for sure, but I think
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: you'll be a lot more selective of where you go. Well, Mike,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: after what you said about Boston, I'll be intrigued to
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: find out if indeed the Boston Bruins would be his
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: next stop. I really do something from the area, and
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: if you're if it's coming from you, you really got
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: me even more intrigued now.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: That hunch.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you, I'll take your hunches all day long.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: But I got a coach for you up there.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Is that Mike Sullivan. Yeah, I mean, I don't I
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: think they'll cut bait with him at the end of
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: this year.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: I do. I mean, I like Mike Sullivan. I think
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: he's a good coach. You know, he came into a
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: situation that was ready made to win Stanley Cups, but
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: since then he hasn't had all success, he.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Hasn't want he hasn't won a playoff series since but seventeen.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, talk about.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: A playoff drought.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: I've heard the cat calls. There. We'll find out. But
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: I've always learned, Mike, if you go with your hunches
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: and your instincts, more times than not, they're generally right.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: I Meanwhile, that does conclude this edition of The Sports
• 44:51
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  Speaker 1: Sure is well, we'll have a lot more. We'll have
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