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Special Council Hur Says He Did Not Disparage Biden Unfairly · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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The news, opinions, commentary and interviews. You need to start your day,
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and you're listening to the West Carrol Morning Show. Wednesday morning, thirteenth
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day of March. I'm wes, thanks for joining me as we work our
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way through these next several months before It'll be quick though on it before the
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election, we got a lot to endure. The latest, of course,
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involves the transcripts of a special counsel, Robert Hur's interview with President Biden about
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the confidential documents that he had in his possession. You know, we got
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the report from special counsel that said that the president was a couple things that
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won I mean, ultimately, the recommendation was that he did not think that
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a guilty verdict would come if they managed to proceed with charges, and he
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put in there in part I guess that it had to do with the fact
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that he wasn't sure that the president's memory and I'm paraphrasing all of this,
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but of events and things would be a hindrance to the case moving forward.
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So yes now, as the committee that has grilled special counsel, and they
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did this yesterday on Capitol Hill, turned into a lot of personal attacks from
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Democrats who were part of the committee. It's always unfortunate, but it is
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the essence of politics. Sadly. I don't know how people do that.
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I don't know how people sit in those and just when they get grilled,
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you know, sometimes people are aggressive. That's part of why people are mad
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at a Senator Katie Britt. They're mad at her. Oh Man, they
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don't like her, and they would after her after her rebuttal of the I
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guess I don't even know what we can call it state of the Union whatever
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it was the campaign speech the other day. They look how competent I am.
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A state of the Union. Maybe that's the better way to put it.
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But you're not supposed to, you know, aggressively go after somebody,
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so there's payback usually. But when DEM's do it like Eric Swallwell did yesterday,
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which he turned it into a complete much like the State of the Union,
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let me just trash Trump for all of my time, and that's what
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he did, including showing a video of times when it seemed that President Trump
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in the White House or a campaigning slurred some words or forgot a word or
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stumbled through a part of a speech. He did all of that and wanted
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to highlight that because what Democrats used this hearing on Capitol Hill was an opportunity
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to talk about how competent Joe Biden is, incompetent Donald Trump is, and
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then they went through all the greatest hits of Hey, remember when Donald Trump
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was impeached and he was impeached a second time without mentioning the fact, of
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course, that he was acquitted both times. The special counsel her had to
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sit there and address his personal credibility. He was asked repeatedly, are you
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did you say these terrible things about Joe Biden with the hopes of getting Donald
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Trump re elected? Of course, his answer to that was no, I
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did my job, and I thoroughly did my job. But you did this
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so that he would get elected and he would appoint you. You wanted some
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sort of position, some sort of an advanced career advancement, And he said,
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certainly not. He was also accused of and he was asked by Eric
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Swalwell, of course, who wanted to know whether or not he would after
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laying out all of the things he wanted to say about former President Trump and
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all the horrible things that he's done, he laid all those things out and
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said, well, you wouldn't want to take an appointment of any kind from
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him. You don't want to be associated with a guy like that, do
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you would you make a pledge? Now, think about Eric Swalwell in his
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past with his former live in anyway, that's another story. So and I
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would have been tempted to bring that up. I just can't imagine the fact
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that you have to sit there and not be able to bring those things up.
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He was also asked whether or not or it was said, and this
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is the part that's always challenging. And when they let you answer questions versus
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not let you answer questions, they're trying to grill you, and they put
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words in your mouth and then you don't get an opportunity to respond, or
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you get asked a question, and then when you answer the question, they
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tell you no, no, no, I just wanted a yes or no,
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or I don't want you to respond at all. He was told by
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one of the squad members, you exonerated President Biden with your conclusion, and
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he said, no, I didn't exoner you exonerated him, And then that's
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got to be It's just such a weird situation to be in. It's like
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you're being grilled by Ben Mattlock. Isn't it true that you committed the crime
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and not my client? Yeah? I did. It's like every episode of
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matt Lock. It's a great show, but every episode ends that way,
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doesn't it. Isn't it true my client is innocent because you're the killer?
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Yeah? Yeah, you almost half expected it to turn into And I would
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have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for you, Andy Griffith,
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Andy Taylor, Matt Locke almost got away with it. It's such a I
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realize that some of these people, they go through these hearings, they come
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out on the other side. Suddenly they're wanted, you know, to speak
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in places, or they get hired or appointed, they get some visibility out
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of it. I get that. Talking about the people getting grilled. We
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know why the people on both sides or on these committees, they take their
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time when it comes to actual members of Congress, when they fire off their
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questions and make their show. We know Democrats are doing everything they can a
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hold onto power. It's the nature of it. Republicans both sides do this.
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They want power, they want to keep power. You hope that one
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side maybe wants more to serve than just to have power. That's what we
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hope, that's what we try to see. I just know that if we're
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going to make this an argument about who has a better cognition between Joe Biden
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and Donald Trump, we know head to head how this is going to go.
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No matter how many videos Eric Swallwell played which went over his time as
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well, they had to shut him down and stop the whole thing. Part
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of why he wanted to hurry through it he knew he had the video that
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he wanted to show and make sure everybody had an opportunity to hear. There
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is an issue. We have two candidates for president that are very senior,
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one of them getting ready and I think I said yesterday was eighty two.
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This is his eighty second year. He turns eighty two after the election,
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and the other was just a few years behind him. One definitely seems to
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be sharper than the other. I think that if Joe Biden spoke as much
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publicly as Donald Trump, I think we'd hear ten times more gaffs than what
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we hear. Trump speaks a lot publicly, does he say things that are
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out of line? Does he do things that are out of line? Sure?
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Does he say things sometimes it make you think, Oh, he seemed
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to kind of stumble through that and lost his train of thought. Yeah,
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that happens. I think it happens to most everybody once you get beyond a
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certain age. Maybe that's why they don't like Katie Britt because she's not to
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that age yet, She's close. It was about forty five for me when
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that stuff started to happen. Just start wondering where you're going with something.
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You hear me do it on this show. Sometimes I'm talking and then I
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have to circle back, and sometimes I never circle back. Sorry about that.
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If you're like me, it's hard to let it go. And if
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I remembered what it was, i'd circle back to it now. But I'm
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sure that I've done it a number of times. So here's what we still
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know. Oh and by the way, transcripts of the interview with the President
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were released, We're going to circling back to stuff. That's where I started,
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wasn't it. And this all happens just before this particular grilling from Congress,
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because you know, just coincidence, they just happened to decide to let
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this out right beforehand. And you know, one of the questions that the
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President criticized Special Counsel for was he was not happy with the fact that during
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his questioning because the things that we were told that the President had a hard
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time remembering when his son passed away, when Bo passed away, and then
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also at what point he was vice president and when he stopped being vice president.
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So through I guess Joe Biden said, the President said, I know
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there's some attention paid to some language in the report about my recollection of events.
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There's even a reference that I don't remember when my son died. How
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in the hell dare he raise that? Frankly, when I was asked the
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question, I thought to myself, it wasn't any of their damn business.
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Now, this release of these documents shows that it was actually the President who
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brought up the passing of his son. It was not Special Counselor who brought
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it up. So that's one thing that can be officially refuted. And of
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course we have this revisionist history of all sorts of things. That's the game
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that gets played. People will remember the fact that the President said, how
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dare they bring this up about my son, when in fact they didn't.
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We have the actual transcript of all of it. Maybe if they felt they
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had to, they could argue that the transcription was wrong. I mean,
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you never know what they're going to try to argue. But it does give
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us another example of a time where his memory didn't quite serve him correctly because
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in his mind, they brought it up, not him. So basically,
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there were some questions about the records and they were being kept in different projects
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after he left his role as vice president. That would have been January of
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twenty seventeen. Donald Trump won the twenty sixteen election in November and took all
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office in January of twenty seventeen. The President in this testimony said, in
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this timeframe is what he was talking about. He mentioned something about his son
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being deployed or dying, and then he asked what month did Bo die?
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And then he said May thirtieth, And then he had to be told by
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one of the White House lawyers who was there that Bo died in twenty fifteen,
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and he said, was it twenty fifteen that he died? Was what
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the now president said? And there were some issues about when Donald Trump was
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elected president in November of twenty seventeen. And that was the other question about
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where he didn't really remember, and they said no, no, no,
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you left office January of twenty seventeen, from one of the again White House
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lawyers at Cisco. So no, this is in spite of the fact that
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you had various members of this committee on Capitol Hill yesterday grilling Robert Hurr and
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saying, well, this was political. You were inserting this message in because
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you wanted to score political points for your guy. You are a registered Republican,
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yes, well, yes I am, so, therefore you can't do
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this job with any sort of integrity. You have to be doing this because
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you want something in return. You're asking Donald Trump to do something for you
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after you help him get elected again. That's the accusation. That's what they
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laid out for the American people to hear in this hearing. Now, what
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ends up coming out of a hearing like this. We know that most of
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the media will run through the talking points. They'll talk about Eric Swalwell's little
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stunt. They'll talk about, you know, some of the points, some
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of the hits that came out of all of this that try to lay out
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the narrative that both of these men are senior and they would really like both
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of them gone. They're not going to say that, but both of these
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men are senior. Therefore, they want to try to equate that. They
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want to try to take away from the fact that President Biden certainly has some
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issues. We know what Donald Trump's issues are, but they don't seem to
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be as much the memory issues as as the current president. They want to
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lay that out, and they want to lay out the fact that this language
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was put into this report to make it a hit job on Joe Biden.
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That's what's going to come from it. All the behind the scenes stuff,
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it's not going to be. You know, most people don't watch this.
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Most people don't have an opportunity. Most people while this was going on yesterday
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were at work. I say most people. A lot of people were at
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work yesterday and some that were home, you know, not working smoking weed.
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Based on again the number of people that I bump into during the day.
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I work different hours than everyone else, so when I'm out and about,
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maybe they work the same hours as me, and maybe that's what's going
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on. But you know whatever, they're not watching this. They weren't following
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it. So is the strong message of no, I am a reputable person
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to have as special counsel in this I have, you know, an actual
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ability to do my job with integrity. No, most people don't even know
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what this guy looks like. They didn't watch the hearing. They don't care.
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What they want is the greatest hits from it. And that's what Democrats
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did. They wanted to fire off the shots. It's like the Jimmy Kimmel
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line from the Oscars the other night. That was the standout. Trump tweeted
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about it or were truth socialed about it, whatever that verb is for that,
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and it gave Kimmel an opportunity to fire back. He had to dive
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into it because it hurts him personally. I guess I don't know he really
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felt a need to do that, and to give Trump that couple of minutes
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a time they both zinged one another during the Oscars, and of course the
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Jimmy Kimmel line, which was a great line. It's hard to argue that
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the jail timeline wasn't a good line. But was it even necessary? Was
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any of it necessary? Were the shots on Katie Britt necessary at the oscars
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either, and of course not they weren't necessary at all. They didn't really
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do it, but they drive home that narrative Republican's bad, Democrats good.
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And like we've said here over the past couple of months, we have this
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broad spectrum of you just feel like people all around you all feel differently.
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If you're a conservative, they all feel differently, and you're not supposed to
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go against because look at how all of the people the bubble that you live
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in and the people that you know of that are conservatives, Like that feels
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like your bubble. But then when you realize, oh my gosh, it
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seems like everybody feels differently in my bubble and I must be wrong. Well,
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you're probably not going to be swayed that easily. But some people are
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the people who were smoking weed during the day all day. Every third person
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that I bump into two people yesterday and a span of a minute and a
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half, completely different people. It wasn't the same and they weren't together,
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but I still picked up the whiff from both of them. It's in their
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clothes and their hair and it's all over them. What every third person you
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bump into smells like Snoop Dogg's underwear drawer. It's a problem. But anyway,
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But my point is it goes back to the message from a couple of
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weeks ago that you know Trump Rush Limbaugh see there, it's a memory thing.
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You could play that. Eric swallwell, I'm losing it. I almost
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said Donald Trump, Well I did, but I almost was giving him credit
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for it. But no, Rush Limbaugh used to make the statement that you
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know, being conservative, it's an active thing. You have to constantly be
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in practice of it. And that's true. You have to otherwise you might
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give into these outside sources, these outside things, because it's all around us.
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The TV shows, The View and shows like that, where you got
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an audience of people that all clap and cheer on whenever you say something that
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they want you to agree with, because an applause sign pops up and you're
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just happy to be there in an audience. Have you ever been in the
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audience on one of those shows. I've been in the audience of those shows.
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They tell you when to clap, please clap now, and people don't
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tend to like oppose it. They just kind of clap and laugh and play
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along with what they're supposed to do. I've been in the audience of The
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Daily Show a few times way back in the day. Someone recently asked me,
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like, are you watching it now with John Stewart. No, no,
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I'm not watching Johnston. I did not watch. The only time I
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really watched The Daily Show when John Stewart was there was when I was in
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the audience. I like Craig Kilbourn. He was my favorite host of The
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Daily Show. But again, we have to be vigilant about it, and
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we have to remember that the ultimate findings in this report were what we know
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to be the case. The president doesn't remember certain things, he has a
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hard time remembering certain things, and that ultimately the findings in this were that
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he was not going to be particularly fit to stand trial and that he didn't
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think that a conviction would come. That's still the message, no matter how
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many times Democrats try to tell us that the message is really something else.
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They all look delicious, but you know, it's a crispy cream donut.
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How can it not look delicious. I particularly like the design of the
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one with the shamrock on it. It's nice, it's got a green glaze
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on top, it looks good, it's got the But they all look quite
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scam everybody and jump in and steal their tax refunds. I know they've taken
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a lot of precautions to make sure that doesn't happen quite as much. But
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what's interesting is that there's a poll that found that a quarter of Americans have
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no idea if they'll be getting anything back from the government, and it causes
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to receive about two thousand dollars because that's typically what they get. But unlike
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in past years when they have spent the refund check on vacations and luxury items,
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about sixty seven percent so that they would spend it more responsibly this year,
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including thirty six percent who say that they'll save it. That almost sounds
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a little bit like the you know, God, if you get me out
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do anything bad again. That's what that feels like. It's almost like I
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don't know if I'm getting a refund or not, but if I just do,
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I'm going to spend it responsibly or I'm gonna save it for something else.
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It's kind of what it seems like a little bit maybe I don't know.
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We already got a refund and we haven't spent it yet. We're saving
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it. If we spend it, it will be on something responsible. That's
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typically what we do, although there's nothing irresponsible about a nice vacation. If
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people are using it for that, all right, you probably if you think
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might think about the you know, they had the models, the guys with
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no shirts on standing out front, and then cologne. But now they've added
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the bridle a selection. They've got a collection. I guess that's the right
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way to say it. Added to their clothing, clothes for everyone from guests
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to the bride herself. The New A and F wedding shop as dresses,
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swimwear, lingerie, everything you need for the big day, and I guess
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the honeymoon. I don't know what the swimwear comes in. Who's wearing that
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to a wedding? I mean that sounds like an interesting wedding depending on who
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the bride or groom, I guess is I don't know. I mean,
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demends on what you're into. But anyway, all right, so let's talk
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about blueberries. Let's talk about blueberries because there's a new British study that says
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blueberries aren't blue and your eyes may think that they're blue, but they're not
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blue. I always tend to think of them as almost purple, you know,
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in that family, but not so much. And that may tie into
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this because this new study from the UK says that pigments in blueberries and other
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fruits that appear to be blue are actually dark red and that they have a
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epi cuticular wax coating that goes on top of them at b cuticular I guess
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like cuticle, and it has a coating on the skin and it plays a
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trick on your eyes gives the appearance of the color and blue. It's really
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just scattering blue and UV light that gives that appearance. And they say,
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if you want proof, mash up of all of blueberries and you'll see a
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dark red, almost purple color. See purple is what I always saw.
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But yes, I get that because if have ever you know, you make
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a smoothie with blueberries in it, you can certainly see what you think is
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the blue, but you also see some of that reddish purple color that pops
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up in there as well. So this isn't one of those things that I
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go, oh my gosh, I can't believe. But some people remember we
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went through that whole thing with the dresses and the Yonnie and the laurel and
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is the dress blue or is it silver or whatever? I don't even remember
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what the colors were, but you know what I mean, that sort of
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