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- 0:01Clearly grab up your at friends, and this is the friendship battle, never
- 0:07ever end. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the Least Requested, Leaf Demanded
- 0:16and the leaf Downloaded Wrestling Podcast pc W. This could be a long podcast,
- 0:25so strappin and shut up and don't be a little bit about it.
- 0:32This is a mess question. Hollies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children
- 0:54of all ages, Welcome to another episode of PCW podcast Championship Wrestling. I
- 0:59am your host, Wayne Semi dried Chicken, and today we are going back
- 1:03to Saudi Arabia, yay for Crown Jewel, and I am not going alone.
- 1:11This is gonna be a long, terrible, hot, stuck on the
- 1:15tarmat kind of trip possibly, but let me bring on my co host.
- 1:21Here we go. Hey, Ray, are you eating anything during this episode?
- 1:57Uh? Not yet, it's on the way. We'll be when he
- 2:01gets here, all right, uh And also joining us as usual, Doyle.
- 2:36Oh it's me, it's me. It's a d O. I l
- 2:38E and I had a fucking stuck on the tarmac joke baked in and your
- 2:42ruined it for me. Thanks a lot, Wade. Did I jump the
- 2:46gun you stole? My thunder. That's all right helped? Oh ma,
- 2:53hey, so Doyle, you had me thinking the other day when you mentioned
- 2:58it, Doyle three six team, that would be an awesome shirt to have.
- 3:02I used to have back in the back in the nineties. I had
- 3:06one man resurface it like a retro share. Yeah. No, I'm sure
- 3:10I could get another one million somehow. Yeah. What does it mean though?
- 3:15Duel three sixteen has to mean something so explained? Explain? Is there
- 3:20a backstory? Well, nowadays it means I want to be home by ten
- 3:24pm. Uh. Yeah, Like we got our deal with Pro Wrestling Tease,
- 3:36So we have a store and I'm at the point now we're like the
- 3:38store's created. We just don't have any designs uploaded yet because they're redoing the
- 3:44site. So hopefully this week I'll be able to upload some new designs.
- 3:51We get four of them right off the bat, and I think if we
- 3:53sell twenty five items from our store, then we're going to get a unlimited
- 3:58amount of designs. So you know, uh, each of us are gonna
- 4:02get our own personal design, and then we're gonna get one the entire podcast,
- 4:06whether you want it on a T shirt or a hoodie. I'm getting
- 4:11mine in a hoodie because I'm wearing it to WrestleMania and I know it's gonna
- 4:15be cold, so lay yeah, I was thinking it too. I was
- 4:21like, I will get like a two XL, Like I'm an XCEL hoodie
- 4:25kind of guy, but I'll get a two XL so it could be a
- 4:28roomy because you know that that was always like one of my my problems when
- 4:31I was younger. It's like you always you get this really cool wrestling shirt,
- 4:35right, but it's cold out, so you're wearing like a hoodie or
- 4:39a jacket, and uh, you know, the second you get there,
- 4:43it's like, now I show my wrestling shirt. I got to take off
- 4:46my jacket immediately. Uh that are just sweat it out and wear it over
- 4:49top. But I mean I always every every event, I have to wear
- 4:56a wrestling shirt, Like every event I go to, I can't just go
- 4:59in a clean shirt. This is weird for me. You know, we're
- 5:02a non wrestling shirt. So you know, this will be great for people
- 5:08who want to wear a PCW shirt. Wear it's an event and it's gonna
- 5:12be cool because it's gonna have the QR code, right, on your back.
- 5:17I'm always tired of people like, oh, well, where do we
- 5:20go to listen to your podcasts? I give them the whole list, and
- 5:24I'd rather just be like, hey, just scan the barcode and leave me
- 5:29alone. Scan this QR code. Carlos had the idea of doing stickers.
- 5:35I thought that would be cool, slapping stickers everywhere, QR co stickers,
- 5:40you know, QR codes. That's that's the way we do it now,
- 5:43That's that's how the kids do it today. Dre. Yeah, I suppose.
- 5:48So everything's a sort of a QR code because everybody has their phone on
- 5:54them. You click it, you scan it. Done deal right there?
- 5:59Yeah, and uh, you know, I I tested this this theory,
- 6:03you know, and I asked my grandmother if she knew what this was,
- 6:06and I pointed to the QR code and she goes, oh, yeah,
- 6:10that's the QR code. I'm like, do you know how to use one
- 6:13of these things? And I showed her that she she she got it immediately.
- 6:18And I was like, all right, I like to subscribe grandma,
- 6:24so now she can do it, and she know she's well in her eighties.
- 6:29Grandma can do it. You know. There's no excuse why you know,
- 6:33listener, Dave, you know I'm talking to you, Dave. You
- 6:36know, can't can't you know, get on the website, join the discord.
- 6:44You know other people who listen. Who who was like, I want
- 6:46to talk in your discord, but I don't feel like downloading it. Oh,
- 6:50it's not my fault. That's just where we are. That's where we
- 6:54do major our majority of our wrestling talking throughout the week. If not,
- 7:00you just wait for the podcast episodes drop and hear what we have to say.
- 7:03But sometimes I have here before Daved catching strays. Yeah, well you
- 7:09know why. You know why. Dave was over not too long ago,
- 7:11and I'm like, Dave, like, I haven't seen you on the discord.
- 7:14I'm like, you probably should say something because we all think you're dead.
- 7:17So he did pop up a couple of days ago, so he is
- 7:21alive. I'm just confirming he's a busy man with a new job, but
- 7:27he is alive. I'm trying to get him to come over maybe for like
- 7:30Survivors series. I'll have some people over this saudy pay per view, guys
- 7:34like right in the middle of the afternoon. You know these rare Yeah,
- 7:44I work too, but you know, I'll be done in time. I
- 7:46think I'm done at like ten thirty in the morning, and this is what
- 7:51starts at one in the afternoon. So yeah, yeah, I wish I
- 7:58could say that I'll be working from eight to five on Saturday, so man,
- 8:01after that, I plan on going to the gym. So it'll just
- 8:05be I'll be watching it like a filthy normy at Saturday night. No,
- 8:11it's just there's nothing wrong with that, like savoring it later at night and
- 8:16watching it the old fashioned way. But the most difficult part is staying off
- 8:20of social media because uh, you know, if you're like me and you
- 8:24follow multiple wrestling outlets and and WW and and a bunch of WW superstars and
- 8:31our aw superstars, like, it doesn't matter. Like if you go onto
- 8:35social media, it's all out there on the table. So it's tough.
- 8:39Like I've done it, what you've done win every match. So spoiler alert,
- 8:48Yeah, oh yeah, didn't they They did a couple pre taping,
- 8:56didn't they smacked? Yeah? Yeah, I think they. Yeah, they
- 9:01did that. Well last week? Did they record both episodes? Two episodes?
- 9:05They usually will do like their in ring stuff and then they'll supplement it
- 9:09with video packages and that's usually how those those pre taped shows go. Now,
- 9:18didn't our listener Wayne, who has been on the show before, didn't
- 9:22he say he went to the SmackDown that was being taped. If I caught
- 9:26that on that discord, I'm not sure that he was talking about this one.
- 9:31I thought he'd I think he was just saying that he had been to
- 9:35one of those scenarios where they yes, yes, I think I believe.
- 9:41I believe so because that makes sense. What he said with sammy' z aine
- 9:45winning the title makes sense because I thought, like, you know, that's
- 9:48kind of cool, though, like you see it, you can get to
- 9:50go home and then you get to experience it, you know, on TV.
- 9:56I mean I've never I don't know, it's rare. I've ever gone
- 10:00back and watched a SmackDown or something I've been on, you know, sometimes
- 10:03a pay per view, but never like a ball SmackDown. Hey, I
- 10:11did that wrestling. I don't do it with sports though, and never I
- 10:15have TVR and I go, I'm gonna go look and see if I see
- 10:18myself, and then I never did. Oh yeah, no, well I
- 10:22go lout. I did do it for the Raw that I attended, And
- 10:24there's like a brief blur if you suppause at one moment, you don't see
- 10:31me. But I know what I wore that night, So I was like
- 10:33that red blur right there, that's my shirt. Yeah, you add that
- 10:37to your profile page or I MBD like, listen, I was on an
- 10:41episode of Raw or a SmackDown right the red blur at one hour and forty
- 10:48seven minutes. Yes, yes, I had to talk to Jesse Ventura's lawyer,
- 10:52get you some royalties? Yeah, I did. Lana former wrestler Lana,
- 10:58wife of rust of I think, she says she heard from Vince mac
- 11:03manaer. It's like one hundred thousand dollars was it a minute or a second
- 11:07that that they're recording on TV, that they're live on the air. It
- 11:13was like a ridiculous amount of money, like per minute. I think it
- 11:18was like one hundred grand a minute. Yeah, to be live on air,
- 11:22it was ridiculous. She says she heard it from Vince. I saw
- 11:26that post recently. I don't know if there's any likes to it, but
- 11:31you know, it's kind of I mean that all told the labor and the
- 11:35cost to run the building. And yeah, I could say that pretty easily.
- 11:41Yeah. Also, Lanna said that she wants to be a better manager
- 11:46than Paul Haman. That's what she wants to go down history as. Yeah,
- 11:54that's that's that's tough cookie. That's a tough cookie, especially when he's
- 11:58been managing multiple people. I mean, if you just you just stack his
- 12:03career with bron Lesar against her career as a manager for RUSSA in just that
- 12:09time period, he's still better. I mean, she got a she got
- 12:13a whole lot of steps up the up the stair poobial staircase declimb before she
- 12:18reaches Paul Hayman. Yeah. Is she even a better manager than sensational Sherry?
- 12:24No right, dear Lord, no right. Sensational Sherry manages botcher Man,
- 12:30Randy Savage and Harlem heat Like and Michael and sew. Michael's like a
- 12:35lot of the levels to this. Rumble yourself, I know, the ridiculous
- 12:39thing people post online when she was on camera for one of the greatest verbal
- 12:46botches of all time, right, and didn't didn't flinch, didn't break character,
- 12:56had his bag pat him on his shoulder like it's gonna be Ilana,
- 13:01No, you'll play. He was not on that level. So I have
- 13:09somebody well, Andrew wrote in to the show a question for us. It's
- 13:15kind of like a two part of question. I'm gonna play her little bumper
- 13:20hair. Would you like to answer a question right at this particular time.
- 13:24Would you like to do that talk? There you go, there's your bumper,
- 13:30Andrea, I know you want some type of a bumper, and we'll
- 13:33give you that one. She asked. Will JD McDonald ever be allowed in
- 13:39Judgment Day or will this be another Samson Sammy Zone bloodline situation? Also,
- 13:46if Judgment Day is or if JD McDonald is allowed to be in Judgment Day,
- 13:50then who do you see being kicked out or leaving? If any at
- 13:54all? Uh? You know, I don't. I find it very weird
- 14:00that he's hung around this long with this stable and not been a member.
- 14:07But if he does join, I don't see anybody who. I don't know
- 14:13if anybody leaves, maybe it's due to injury, Like maybe we see somebody
- 14:20like Damian Priest written off of TV for a couple of weeks after maybe this
- 14:24pay per view and JD kind of takes that place in the in the group
- 14:31because him and you know, priests are always the ones that are kind of
- 14:35bumping aheads. But without priests in the way and not there for a couple
- 14:39of weeks, I could see them allowing him in Judgment Day while he's while
- 14:43he's out, you know. Other than that, I don't see them like
- 14:48him being worthy to replace anybody. I just see him another member with wearing
- 14:54purple and black. You know, he's not worthy enough to boot somebody out
- 15:01to replace. Uh, Dre, what do you think are you? Are
- 15:11you there? Dre? Yeah? Yeah? Food? Right? Do you
- 15:16want Doyle to go? Where you have your food? Do you want I'm
- 15:20here? She was asking about JD. I'm here, I'm back now.
- 15:24She was asking about j D McDonough. Would he ever get into the Judgment
- 15:28Day. I believe I said something to this effect and the discord that uh
- 15:35he should at this point like they need to ship or get off the pot
- 15:39in terms of that, because I believe this past Monday on Raw it opened
- 15:46up with the Judgment Day and then when he when they came out, it
- 15:52was I'm not mistaking it was j D McDonough, Real Ripley and and dom
- 15:58so the announcer, which sadly was not Samantha or Win this past Monday,
- 16:03it was the woman who does the announcement for an XT. She was subbing
- 16:07it, so she introduced JD McDonough himself first, and then after that she
- 16:15said and representing the Judgment Day, you know, Dom and Rhea. But
- 16:21then when we get to the backstage segment, Damian Priest, the guy who's
- 16:26so far been the most opposed to JD McDonough joining Judgment Day, he gives
- 16:33JD a fizz bump after saying tonight, let's make tonight all about the Judgment
- 16:37Day, and he fist bumps JD McDonough without hesitation, like it was cool.
- 16:44And then he comes out helps them in the end and all that stuff
- 16:49happens. So it's like it's like they're still trying to be indecisive about it,
- 16:56like it's not official or is it official or did they just quietly bring
- 17:00him in without making it a big deal, So don't They're in this weird
- 17:06place where they like they need to they need to either shit or get off
- 17:10the pot, like to do it or not do it or kick him out,
- 17:15like don't make the mistake of thinking that this JD Judgment Day thing is
- 17:19like what Sammy and the Bloodline were, because it's not. It's not that
- 17:23it doesn't have that level of interest. JD is not as compelling as Sammy.
- 17:29You know, he's a great wrestler. He had a great natural seth
- 17:32Robins this past Monday. But this isn't as captivating or interesting enough to where
- 17:37y'all need to be dragging this out as far as is he in or not?
- 17:42Like, just put him in the fucking group. That's it. Let
- 17:48him be in. He's another member and move forward. Nobody's gonna care that
- 17:52much one way or the other as far as whether he's in or not.
- 17:56And for my money, yeah, just put him in a damn group.
- 18:00Doyle, tell me why you completely disagree with everything Draj just said, like
- 18:11who gives a ship? It's so it's not I think Drey said it's not
- 18:17compelling. Who cares? You know? Like, so I don't think he's
- 18:22part of the Judgment Day. But if he is or he isn't, I
- 18:23don't give a shit candidate to leave Judgment Day. I would definitely say Damian
- 18:30Priest, but we'll talk about him later. And it has nothing to do
- 18:33with JD mcdona. But I could see a world maybe in where Finn leaves.
- 18:40You know, it's put to him like okay, it's it's JD or
- 18:42it's us, and he chooses JD for whatever reason I don't know. Maybe
- 18:47he likes potato headed leprechauns or something. I don't know. But yeah,
- 18:53I mean, I just I mean, I guess he's a fine enough wrestler,
- 18:56but I just don't give a shit about the at all. I really,
- 19:02I love the Irish guys. I always love the Irish guys. But
- 19:04he's just so fucking fucking laconic and wooden and not very interesting. Yeah,
- 19:15yeah, it's true. He like if he if he wasn't here next week,
- 19:22I don't think I noticed him, miss him. Yeah, would you
- 19:25even notice? Yeah he wouldn't. I don't think so, absolutely not,
- 19:30because he hasn't had any substantial role in the judgment day itself. He's just
- 19:36been the guy on the side, or he's been the punching bag or the
- 19:40assistant, like he's been like if a whole group could have a sidekick,
- 19:47he would be that. Like he's that little monkey from the super Friends cartoon.
- 19:55Shit, I agree. Uh, oh, God, Crown Jewel.
- 20:02We're back here again, the Saudi WrestleMania. I guess this will be the
- 20:08fifth one. First started in twenty eighteen. They've re signed a new deal
- 20:15in twenty twenty for ten years, so we have a ten year partnership.
- 20:21We are here till twenty thirty. Guys, I I'm looking at this card.
- 20:30I guess you could say John Cena would be the maybe the the older
- 20:37because they always get like an older got part timer to come in. I
- 20:41guess that's John Cena this time. Huh, you know normal, Yeah,
- 20:45this is the first show, first Saudi show without Brock. Yeah, without
- 20:49Brock, without you know, the Undertaker, without Goldberg. You know interesting.
- 21:00I mean the card's pretty stacked. Eight matches, it's pretty stacked.
- 21:03I don't think it's pretty bloated. So's it is. I don't think they
- 21:07uh and there's a few matches that could added, but you know, uh,
- 21:11the Intercinental title match maybe even but you know it's not on here.
- 21:17They don't. They don't need to a lot of singles matches. Yeah,
- 21:21I was gonna say, when was the last time we had so many one
- 21:23on one match? I mean, God, forbid we uh defend one of
- 21:26the tag belts. Uh. But it's just like it's so many one on
- 21:33my I maybe got that one women's cluster fuck, which of course we'll talk
- 21:37about. Yeah. I can't remember a pay per view that had just nothing
- 21:41but singles matches. It's like, yeah, it's like they sat. No,
- 21:47it's not bad. They specifically requested these matches. That's what it looks
- 21:51like. Like, you know, it's like like you're picking out matches out
- 21:56of a hat, but you totally forget, like you only had eight matches
- 22:00to pick from. I mean, it's tough to build a car like that
- 22:04ship. Like I totally forgot to put the tag titles in there, the
- 22:08Intercontinental title I forgot about. Like it's just bloated roster. Uh, it's
- 22:15just what it is. You can only fit so many people in the car.
- 22:19Uh, and in one night too, not you know like rustmating its
- 22:25two and you and keeping in mind that you have to building in the future
- 22:30too. You can't show them everything all at once. Yep, yep,
- 22:33Okay, you know, even though this is a big pay per view,
- 22:37Uh, this isn't. I don't I still don't think this is one of
- 22:41the the main for you know, oh no, not even close, especially
- 22:51be in position so close to the Survivors series. There's no way it would
- 22:53be that. WW is definitely for now more invested in building trying to build
- 23:00up Survivor Series back into being on a similar ground with the Rumble Russell Madian
- 23:07SummerSlam, then trying to build up Crown Jewel to be on that level,
- 23:11because people just nobody looks at it that way. Everybody just pretty much looks
- 23:17at it as it's the Saudi Show where they just do whatever the Saudis wanted
- 23:22and just throw a bunch of shit at the wall and maybe we might get
- 23:25some storyline for progression in the midst of it. Yeah. Yeah, I
- 23:30mean last year the main event was Roman Reigns versus Logan Paul for the undisputed
- 23:37WW Championship, and that Logan Paul is back, but for the United States
- 23:42Championship. Fuck it, we'll just roll right into it. Ruh. You
- 23:49know we're right right into that match, you know, Raimster versus Logan Paul.
- 23:55Uh. You know what, Like, I think it'd be a good
- 24:00idea. I mean, if they're gonna whether you like it or not like
- 24:04he's a heel. Like whether he likes it or not, he's a heel.
- 24:10Uh. You know, I think at first when he came to WW,
- 24:14he tried to be a face and people just naturally just do not like
- 24:18Logan Paul. Uh, not as much as people are led to believe the
- 24:23WW universe. Let that be heard. So he's he's got some good heat
- 24:29there. So you know, him snatching away a title from Raymond Stereo,
- 24:34would it would be pretty cool? Uh? You know, Logan Paul would
- 24:40take that with him on the road and you would see the Union the United
- 24:44States title pop up on social media all over the place. I could totally
- 24:48see why w W would like to showcase the US title. Uh. And
- 24:53that could lead to you know, a bigger matter first Survivor series. Uh
- 25:00yeah, I don't. I have a couple of ideas but for Logan pol
- 25:07later. But anyway, Uh, Drey, what are you? What are
- 25:11you thinking Rams versus Logan Paul. You know, I think this would be
- 25:17great for Logan Paul. I don't see Ramon you know, as as much
- 25:29as I And I'm one of those people who does not like Logan Paul.
- 25:32I don't care for the guy. I acknowledge his talent and his natural aptitude
- 25:37towards professional wrestling, because us he is a talented wrestler. He's I haven't
- 25:44seen a guy come out of nowhere and take to this sport as quickly as
- 25:47he has since arguably Kurt Angle like he's he's that much of a natural at
- 25:53this, So I give him that, and I kind of agree with you.
- 26:00I could see them putting the title on him, even though as a
- 26:06wrestling fan, I don't like that because he's not full time. He's still
- 26:11part time. Like if I had seen him be on TV wrestling matches on
- 26:18Raw or SmackDown for like a few weeks or at least a month leading into
- 26:23this to where I believed he was going to be on television, or you
- 26:27know, giving us at least at least a few months run kind of like
- 26:33what scene is doing now during the Screen Actors Guild strike and something like that,
- 26:37then I would probably be more receptive to Logan Paul winning a title because
- 26:42at least I know we're going to get at least some kind of run out
- 26:45of it and some kind of work from him out of it other than just
- 26:48a single match pop up here and there, So in that regard, I
- 26:53don't necessarily want him to win the title, but I kind of agree with
- 26:59you when it says that I think he probably will win the title for all
- 27:03the reasons that you mentioned, just for that crossover media thing. He can
- 27:08be out there making media appearances as the ww United States Champion, rocking the
- 27:15belt all over the place, putting it in people's eyes. Although I would
- 27:21argue that doesn't do shit for the belt itself again from a wrestling standpoint,
- 27:27because you just having a belt and just showing up places with it, what's
- 27:33that really doing. It's not really doing shit for the title itself. Titles
- 27:37are built on the stories. They're built on matches, they're built on the
- 27:41feuds, They're built on moments. That's what builds a title. The reason
- 27:45why the Intercontinental titles as prestigious as it is now is because Gunter has been
- 27:51out here having freaking four and a half five star matches is week after week
- 27:56defending the shit out of that title. That's why. The reason why the
- 28:00US title has been freaking nut hair above the old European title recently is because
- 28:10nothing's been done with it of any substance and any potential that it has had
- 28:15to be something of significance to be involved in a storyline that matters or something
- 28:21like that gets wasted because they want to throw it on the old mask man.
- 28:25And I'm not gonna rant on that again, but yeah, I could
- 28:29see it happening. I would be okay with Logan Paul winning the title if
- 28:34he drops it at Survivor Series whoever, or if yeah, if he either
- 28:40drops it at Survivor Series or if he's a regular on WWE television for like
- 28:45the rest of the year at least from now like now through the Rumble,
- 28:49then I'd be okay with it. But if he's just gonna pop up have
- 28:53the title or win the title and then we don't see him again on SmackDown
- 29:00for like, you know, weeks on end, then no, that's a
- 29:03waste. Yeah, Like I could see Logan Paul with a short run,
- 29:11you know, from here to Survivors Series and be a transitional heeled champion because
- 29:15whoever takes it off rate's gonna get a massive heat, you know, and
- 29:21what better person get that massive heat than Logan Paul and then lose it to
- 29:25somebody who's they're turning into a massive face. But Doyle, what do you
- 29:33what do you think? Yeah, I mean I think I've said on these
- 29:37here airwaves that if Logan Paul stuck around doing this wrestling thing, they'd put
- 29:44a championship on them. Well, I think we're there, you know.
- 29:48I think that's exactly what's gonna happen. You know, Ray's title reign has
- 29:53been pretty lackluster, you know, and I think you both said the US
- 29:59JAP ship in general, it's just been pretty lackluster really since Lashly had it.
- 30:06You know. But I think the product, the prospect of Logan Paul,
- 30:10you know, doing his podcast and walking on red carpets and going to
- 30:14influencer conventions or whatever the fuck it is. Influencers do that, you know,
- 30:18that mainstream attention. I always talk about how they you know, that's
- 30:22like a drug to them, you know, and I think that's just way
- 30:26too tempted. Uh. You know what, I really like Logan Paul's wrestling
- 30:32character. I don't know anything about him outside of wrestling, uh what.
- 30:37I love his wrestling character, and he's really good at this, you know,
- 30:41and you know, putting the title on David Arquette is a publicity stunt,
- 30:45you know, whereas this is not because Logan Paul can do this,
- 30:49you know, Like granted, he has the benefit of taking one match to
- 30:53the time and having his handheld by Shawn Michaels, you know, but you
- 31:02know, it's it's not just sticking on a celebrity for the hell of it.
- 31:04You know, this guy can actually uh professionally wrestle. Uh. You
- 31:08know, and kind of like Dray said, my only real trepidation with this
- 31:11move would be, you know, we already have one absentee champion on SmackDown
- 31:18in Roman reigns. You know, I assume that if they put the title
- 31:22on Logan Paul, they've worked something out with him where he's going to be
- 31:23around uh, you know every week for eight weeks or six out of eight
- 31:29weeks or something. Uh. I feel pretty confident that they'll do that,
- 31:33if that's the route they decide to go. Uh. But yeah, I
- 31:37think there's maybe a quick little title title, a little quick little title reign.
- 31:42Uh you know, maybe eight weeks, like I said, Uh,
- 31:45and then I could see maybe maybe Santo's goes after Logan Paul to avenge Rae
- 31:52or maybe he costs the ray the title turning heel, but I wouldn't be
- 31:57shocked if it's l A Night that ends up beating Logan Paul. That makes
- 32:01all the sense in the world. But that will be another podcast for another
- 32:07day. But until then, I think Logan Paul is coming home as US
- 32:10champion. Yeah, that last thought you brought up. I kind of had
- 32:15the same thought that they use like both you've kind of alluded to. They
- 32:20use Logan Paul as a transitional heel champion, and that's how we get La
- 32:24Knight's first title Reign Survivor series La Knight versus Logan Paul one that when it
- 32:30kind of makes sense. They're both high profile, they're both gold on the
- 32:35MIC. It'd probably be the most interesting person you could put in front of
- 32:43in front of La Knight for a substantial feud after he's concluded his business with
- 32:49whatever with Roman now again assuming that they're not involved in a war Games match,
- 32:54but again that's down the line. We'll get to that. But if
- 32:58he's involved in a singles program in the sviber series, yeah, La Knight
- 33:01versus Logan Paul for the US title kind of makes a whole lot of sense,
- 33:06and it would be a damn good match, and Gooden, I mean,
- 33:10Logan Paul could really lean into the heel aspect because Laen Knight's gonna be
- 33:15over as fuck. That match would absolutely be on fire because of their big
- 33:22exist about as far on the opposite end of the spectrum as possible. Yeah,
- 33:27it makes a lot of sense. And then that moment when he finally
- 33:30wins and he becomes you as a champion, Oh, that pop would be
- 33:34massive. Yeah, I was saying the same thing, but like I was
- 33:38like, Okay, why don't want to talk about it until we discuss el
- 33:42A Knight later. But like when you think of like the next person who
- 33:47would have to face Logan Paul free United States title, you immediately think la
- 33:52Knight, Like there's nobody else on there like that would fit that that next
- 33:59stepping zone And like to Surber series, if you're gonna get anything out of
- 34:04losing to Roman, which I'm going to assume we're all going to predict,
- 34:07is what's going to happen? Uh, you do it by saying I was
- 34:13right. You know, I was within a split second of beating Roman reigns.
- 34:15If I can do that to him, I could certainly beat you,
- 34:17you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, because you know you didn't beat
- 34:22him last year either, you know, yeah exactly, and that that that
- 34:27that feud is almost too easy not to do. We're writing it. We're
- 34:30doing it, guys. Ah all right, Uh you know probably the show
- 34:37opener, which I'm guessing would be, uh Sammy Zain versus j D.
- 34:43McDonald. I believe that's the pre show. That's gonna be the that's where
- 34:49Okay, I see it one. He apprecio. Yeah that I mean that
- 34:53one. Can we all agree, Sammy Zane, Yeah, that's that's that's
- 34:59a raw man. Yes, that's it'll be a good match several times.
- 35:06Yeah, it'll be a good match. It'll be something to live in up
- 35:08the crowd. But that's that's light work for Sammy saying that's light work.
- 35:14He should easily win that match. Yeah, okay, So opening match will
- 35:20say singles match for the World Heavyweight title seth freaking Rollins versus Drew McIntyre.
- 35:28Now, this pay per view on paper, it looks very fucking good,
- 35:34like, you know, chances wise, the story wise for for guys like
- 35:39l A. Knight, for guys like Drew McIntyre. You know, this
- 35:44was another one. That's that's very I don't know, it's it's believable that,
- 35:47you know, Drew never had the chance to win the heavyweight title in
- 35:53front of a crowd of big audience because you know, if you don't know,
- 35:59he it during COVID times, during the Thunderdome era. That was a
- 36:05terrible time in our lives. I tried not to think about it. It
- 36:08was actually before the Thunderdome era. It was there was like nothing right around.
- 36:13Yeah, yes, it was absolutely nothing. Yeah, dude, you're
- 36:20right. That was the awkward Wrestlemingian the quietestmania, like everything had shut down
- 36:24like a week and a half of what that. Yeah, it was it
- 36:30was rough. Oh yeah, I'm glad it's over. I'm glad, you
- 36:36know, we never have to do it again, hopefully not. But yeah,
- 36:40he I mean I totally get drew story, Like I totally get his
- 36:46feeling for like, oh man, like not winning it in front of a
- 36:49big crowd. This isn't WrestleMania, but this is the wish dot Com of
- 36:58WrestleMania, the wrestny esque. So you know, I'm pretty sure we're gonna
- 37:07get Seth Rollins walking out again as champion. But if there was gonna be
- 37:14a title change, I really am leaning towards this one, Drew McIntyre.
- 37:20It's just the story is there, and it would you know, I keep
- 37:23harping to it because Seth is just a workhorse, like giving him some much
- 37:30needed time off. But he just lost their NXC Women's title, like just
- 37:35stepping down as World Heavyweight Championship. You know this is this is perfect timing
- 37:42for him to step down. They both can take some time off, both
- 37:45losing some titles back to back. Drew gets his win in front of a
- 37:51big crowd, and you know, his contracts up in five months, five
- 37:58months and he still hasn't resigned. So maybe this small title run will give
- 38:06him, you know, keep him hungering, make him want to stay,
- 38:10help him persuade him to stay. Ah, you know, we could be
- 38:16you know, I could be completely wrong and it just goes right to Seth
- 38:20and sets Us keeps on being the workhorse all the way to Survivor series and
- 38:24you know, drops it to somebody else and then you know, Drew just
- 38:30loses and becomes very unhappy and when his contracts up, he goes like it
- 38:36could totally go that way Drew, What do you think? Yeah, I
- 38:43just don't see Drew winning this match. He nothing about him and not a
- 38:50knock on him as a rescip nothing about him or this storyline that that's happening
- 38:55right now with him. Nothing about it, says new World Heavyweight Champion to
- 39:01me. Nothing. The only way I could even see it remotely happening is
- 39:07if he did it and joined the Judgment Day. That's the only That's the
- 39:13only thing that seems to make sense to me, because it seems like as
- 39:17as major as the Judgment Day is right now, as them being the top
- 39:21heel faction, it just seems like that World Heavyweight Championship is destined to end
- 39:27up in that faction at some point, and it's like, you know,
- 39:35they're gonna get it whether you like it or not. It just seems like
- 39:38that's that's the direction that they're heading. Is just a matter of how are
- 39:42they going to pull it off and who are they going to put it on.
- 39:45I mean, some of us thought they were going to put it on
- 39:46Finn when he was when he was one of the first people to feud with
- 39:52Seth. That turned out not to be the case. I thought they should
- 39:54have done it at a fast Lane in the last pay per view with Damian
- 40:00and he still seems to me he's still if I was a betting man of
- 40:02the odds on favorite person to be the next World Heavyweight Champion in my opinion.
- 40:08But yeah, I just I just don't see Drew just winning it and
- 40:14just becoming World Heavyweight Champion, because then what like where we're at in his
- 40:21storyline and his character story isn't becoming the world heavweight champion. They're still kind
- 40:28of straddling the fence on whether he's a full on heel or a babyface,
- 40:32like they're just just now finally starting to tilt towards him being a heel.
- 40:37And I don't see him beating Seth Robinson becoming World Heavyweight Champion as the thing
- 40:43that puts him all the way in the heel side, unless he joins the
- 40:47Judgment Day as champion, and then you run some storyline where there's this interesting
- 40:52dynamic of the new guy in the Judgment Day is the world heavyweight champion and
- 40:58his biggest threat lie within that very faction mister Money in the Bank Damien Priest.
- 41:04Yeah, which that could make for some interesting storytelling. It's definitely something
- 41:08some interesting storytelling intention to be had there, but I just don't see it.
- 41:15Yeah, I just don't see it. I think Seth Rollins walks out
- 41:17to champion again. The storyline for Drew is that he loses and that just
- 41:22pushes him further towards the dark side or further into being a Hell Yeah,
- 41:30I totally forgot the Judgment Day stickler with with you know, him talking their
- 41:37Ria backstage a lot hit his odd relationship with her. You know, she's
- 41:43she's had some odd relationships with some people outside of Judgment Day, you know
- 41:46Jay Husso as well. You know, she's keep your eye on that one.
- 41:55But yeah, just day, I can't believe I totally forgot that that
- 42:00that's a wild card like him joining and you know, this would be odd
- 42:05being most of factions are built around the World Heavyweight Champion. This is weird
- 42:10where the faction has already been built from the ground up from the you know,
- 42:17I believe their first title in their faction was was the North American title,
- 42:22and then the women's and tag team and so on. That was the
- 42:30first one. She went to Tilt WrestleMania and UH American title until like sometime
- 42:37over the summer, That's right, and then it was like a domino effect,
- 42:40so you know, uh that that would be cool, like you know,
- 42:45if the World's Heavyweight title is the last one, like you know,
- 42:49like the Infinity Stones, like this is to finish the Gauntlet of of titles,
- 42:53you know that that's that they can get. Uh. And then dude,
- 42:58yeah, you're so right that that wild card that you know, Damian
- 43:02Priest having that there and you know, unless you know he's written off for
- 43:08a while with an injury after you know, said match tonight. But Doyle,
- 43:15let's get you in here. What do you think? What are you
- 43:17thinking? I believe numerous occasions I have picked against Seth Rollins and have been
- 43:27wrong on numerous occasions. So I'm going to bury the lead and I'm gonna
- 43:31pick Seth Rawlins, which may be ensure that someone other than Seth Rawlins leaves
- 43:38with the World Heavyweight Championship. Yeah, well, you guys in said,
- 43:44I'm talking about Judgment Day and Drew they she's been trying to recruit Seth Also,
- 43:52Yeah, it kind of reminds me of Summer Slam ninety two. If
- 43:58you want to think back that far when the Ultimate Warrior was facing Macho Man
- 44:02for his w w F championship, as you may recall, and Flair and
- 44:09Perfect on the outside playing mind games. They had the Warrior thinking they were
- 44:14gonna help Savage, and Savage ought they were going to help the Warrior.
- 44:19And it kind of reminds me of that with Rhya Ripley. You know,
- 44:22she's kind of trying to recruit both of them. I guess Drew seems a
- 44:27little more receptive to it. But I mean, how many times has somebody
- 44:30said no, I'm not going to do that, then they totally do it.
- 44:36But you know what, what what is her end game? You know?
- 44:40You know that's the question. I know, if we look back at
- 44:44history, it isn't much help turned out a Flair and Perfect weren't aligned with
- 44:47either Warrior or Savage, and their involvement pretty much just fucked up the ending
- 44:53of it. Otherwise not so bad match. So what's re up to?
- 45:00I don't know if we're even gonna get that answer on Saturday. We might
- 45:04not, and you know it wouldn't be surprising me if we don't. It
- 45:09probably has something to do with Priest cashing in. But maybe it doesn't.
- 45:15I've kind of been a priest, as I said before, kind of been
- 45:17a priest, is getting thrown out of the judgment, out of the judgment
- 45:22day Truther for a little while now. And I'm also not sure he's gonna
- 45:29successfully cash in. Uh you know, I like Priest fine, but I
- 45:34just don't. I don't love him, and I don't see him as a
- 45:36world champion. I really don't, you know. I think like Elimination Chamber
- 45:40participant, maybe Rumble Final four certainly make money in the bank winner. I
- 45:45think that's kind of his ceiling, you know. In other words, I
- 45:49think he could, he could challenge for a world title, but I don't
- 45:52know if he's ever gonna make it there. But we'll put a pin in
- 45:55Priest for a second. I really want to see Drew turn a heel.
- 46:00We've talked about that. I feel like the last five episodes we've done,
- 46:07and I mean it's certainly been hints of that. I could kind of see
- 46:08him doing like like Brett Hart did in ninety seven, where like he was
- 46:15healed in the US but a babyface internationally, you know, And we've got
- 46:20a bunch of international shows coming up. You know, we do two Saundi
- 46:23shows every year. We've got Australia coming, Germany. You know, France
- 46:29is rumored, So I could see a scenario where Drew does a does a
- 46:35heal in the State's baby Face Abroad kind of deal. But the monkey wrench
- 46:43here, you know, is Drew's dirt you know, contract situation if you
- 46:49believe what the dirt sheets say. So, you know, do you think
- 46:52they're gonna more likely to make him give him the title to try to make
- 46:57him happy or less likely because they don't want to put the title on someone
- 47:00that's not signed up long term. That's the question. But I think all
- 47:07that's a mood point because I think Seth is gonna win somehow, some way,
- 47:12And really, besides Gunther and maybe EO, he's kind of the only
- 47:15person whose title run is worth a goddamn right now. Everybody else none of
- 47:22the other title rains are very good, and I wasn't expecting much out of
- 47:27this title reign from Seth, and he's really proved me wrong. I think
- 47:34I would say it's it's been a bit of a slow burn with it,
- 47:37even though again I still think it should have ended at fast Lane. But
- 47:44It is one of those things that he's he's building it through the work as
- 47:47opposed to the Fuse themselves. The feuds have been kind of so so the
- 47:54Shenskate him with Shinskate Alcamore kind of started off really hot and and interesting kind
- 48:00yeah, but kind of fizzled out towards the end. Damian Priest, I
- 48:07kind of disagree with you. I think I can see him as world champion
- 48:10material. I just think WW has H has kind of dropped the ball with
- 48:17him a little bit in terms of they haven't really capitalized on some of that
- 48:22momentum that he had earlier this year, coming out of Backlash where he had
- 48:30the great match with excuse me with Bad Bunny, and then from there he
- 48:35moved on to winning the Money in the Bank ladder match. He had a
- 48:39lot of momentum going and he was being built up and at that point he
- 48:44was seen as a legitimate contender. He had more juice when he was the
- 48:51US champion a couple of years ago. I thought, I feel like,
- 48:55I mean the money in the back briefcase. Notwithstanding, I think he had
- 49:00much more momentum back then then. You probably could have sold me on it.
- 49:06This version of Gamian Priest. I just don't see it. That may
- 49:10be true, but I wasn't watching it at that time, so I can't
- 49:13speak to it. But that may be true. But I've seen the ascension
- 49:16of him rising up and separating himself out from the rest of the roster is
- 49:23what I saw from again, the match he had with Bad Bunny and then
- 49:27winning the Money in the Bank, he was starting to stand out from the
- 49:30rest. And to me, when you can stand out from the crowd and
- 49:34you're not just seeing as just another guy on the roster, to me,
- 49:37that's when you start to have champion material written on you and not. And
- 49:45after that point, he's just kind of just plateaued, and I think that's
- 49:50where they've messed up at He just kind of has been missed the money in
- 49:52the bank but hasn't done anything much with it other than just be a member
- 49:58of the judgment day when tag Team titles with with Finn Balord, which doesn't
- 50:02do anything for you as a singles chip competitor, and the money to make
- 50:07brief base has just kind of become an accessory and not really and he's not
- 50:14even in control of it because it's it's Rhea that tells him what to do
- 50:19and when to do it and when not to do it right, and I
- 50:22mean which, yeah, which doesn't do him any favors. Even just like
- 50:27I said, yeah, there was a way too that they could have still
- 50:31spun that into a good story. As I laid out in our last episode,
- 50:35I think had they gone a different direction with the booking and the storyline
- 50:38storytelling, there's a way that this could have been done. But they just
- 50:45I don't know if it's just their creative juices are kind of lacking right now,
- 50:50or if they're focused on other things, but yeah, they're they're kind
- 50:52of dropping the ball with Damian Priests in my opinion, Like I feel like
- 50:57his momentum that he had with a lot of stuff. Oh yeah, I
- 51:02don't know if it's it's like they're like holding it for like a bigger pay
- 51:07per view, a bigger paper. He's just like keep holding these storylines back
- 51:12until we get yeah yeah, and they throw these things out Yeah, they
- 51:15throw these things out there. They tease something, but then they never develop
- 51:20on it any further. Like when we had like the whole uh rear Ripley
- 51:25and Paul Hayman sit down where they had that song. Ain't ship came from
- 51:31that sense when she was talking to Paul Haymen, somebody you will acknowledge me
- 51:37and all this stuff, I was like, oh, oh they about to
- 51:40Oh this ship about to get real spicy over here. I'm like, you
- 51:44know, all these folks out here talking real reckless and acting all crazy while
- 51:47Roman Wayings is away. I'm like, he about to come back and you
- 51:52know, get the check and everybody re establish himselff like there was something there
- 51:55and nothing. Nothing's happening again. I don't know if it's because Crowdjewel is
- 52:01almost like in the way, so they had the book for Crowdjewel and some
- 52:06of these other threads are just kind of falling by the wayside, and maybe
- 52:08they'll get picked up after Crowdjewel. We'll see. Yeah, I wouldn't be
- 52:13surprised if that's what happens. I would I certainly hope so. But man,
- 52:16in the MEANTIME'M like, I don't know this. Some of these things
- 52:22are just feeling real fragmented and not feeling like they're following a natural linear progression
- 52:30that people can follow. It's just kind of more hopscotch no now you're venting.
- 52:45It sounds like you were venting. I don't want to interrupt you.
- 52:51Yeah, I mean Drew definitely needs a fresh coat of paint one way or
- 52:54the other. So I feel like we've been talking about that for a while.
- 53:00But yeah, he needs that. He'll turn like you said, he
- 53:02needs it. Yeah, and I kind of I really hope he does resign.
- 53:07I would like, you know, you know, I don't want to
- 53:13see him go to another company. I mean, he would thrive in aw,
- 53:16but like wod you though, I feel like he'd get lost in the
- 53:21shuffle because yeah, so many people they are very yeah now like we're talking
- 53:28like a like three years ago, absolutely, because that's you know, but
- 53:32now they're so bloated it seems like, oh, it's ridiculous. I could
- 53:37see him coming in and if any if anybody could come in and like immediately
- 53:43become a champion, I could see it being Drew McIntire, Is Drew McIntire
- 53:45even his real name, no, oh, well, never mind, man,
- 53:51then he might be fucked. Like if he can't walk into a w
- 53:53as Drew McIntire, if he has to walk in as wherever the hell he
- 53:57really is Andrew oh no, no, no, no, never mind,
- 54:01never mind, Andrew Galloway is not a w champion. Galloway on the Indians
- 54:09don't hit the same though his real name was Drew McIntire, and he was
- 54:15Drew McIntyre walking into a W I could see him walking and then and them
- 54:19pulling like a surprise day one walking immediately world champion like m JF has the
- 54:27defendis titling against a mystery opponent, Boom, drewe. McIntire comes in,
- 54:30beats him, immediately become champion, like I could see them doing that for
- 54:34somebody of his caliber of superstar. But that's Galloway, true, Galloway would
- 54:42I think be hit. Drew Galloway ain't hitting like that. I mean,
- 54:50just like if if Seth left, he would be what the hell was his
- 54:54name, Indie name ship something black shaite, shit fuck, I can't remember
- 55:02what his name was, but whatever the Tyler Black, Tyler Black, it
- 55:08would be Tyler Black. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah yeah. Seth would
- 55:15struggle because and even though I could see fans still trying to do that chant
- 55:22with him and at another arenas and stuff like that, if he even if
- 55:25he wasn't in w W and I could see a w trying to come up
- 55:30with some sort of theme for him that's similar enough but not so similar that
- 55:34they get sued, just so they can try to hold onto that chant.
- 55:37It's like, hey, don't blame us, it's the crowd. We can't
- 55:38control what the crowd does. Maybe and Tyler Black is enough of a name
- 55:44that I can see work. But Andrew Galloway no, no, no,
- 55:47no, Adam Copeland name yeah yeah, and he's still the rated ar.
- 55:55He managed to get rated R superstar. He got the music due to the
- 56:00music was the key thing. M hm damn. Yeah, yeah, that
- 56:06works for him. But anyway, let's let's roll right into the Women's World
- 56:13Heavy World Championship match. Ria Ripley versus Naya Jacks versus Shannon Basler versus Zoe
- 56:20Start versus Raquel Rodriguez. Fatal five way, that's all that's weird. You
- 56:27know, I like fatal four ways, but because then that Rick could easily
- 56:32just it seems like she's been manipulating them to attack each other on each episode
- 56:40of all that we've gotten with them. I don't know, this is a
- 56:45pretty stacked card for her, you know, I kind of I'm interested in
- 56:51this match, but I you know, I think Ria is gonna come out
- 56:54on top. She's gonna be able to. I don't even know who would
- 56:59take the pin. She's She's put away almost every one of these girls at
- 57:05some point right in their career. Uh. I don't know who's gonna eat
- 57:09the pin for this, but I think she's gonna still come out on top.
- 57:14Uh. And I think these girls are just gonna continue to feud with
- 57:17each other. They're all heels, well Priquel isn't, but it's always kind
- 57:28of in between. She's she's kind of straddling the fence right now. Zoe
- 57:31doesn't know what the hell she wants to be anymore. She's a heel and
- 57:37it's straight up, She's just the heel. But like we've seen Ria is
- 57:40she though because she got the face I don't know, she kind of got
- 57:45the face pop when she turned on Trish and then that seemingly teasing of a
- 57:51team up with her and Shanna Basler seemed to get some pretty more positive reactions
- 57:58than Booze Man, like after they had their match and they shook hands,
- 58:01and then the following week in Norfolk, when Zoe came to help Shana.
- 58:07She kind of got more of a pop than a booze. So we're rat
- 58:13Okay, We're at the arena right We're watching wrestling and Zoe Stark music hits
- 58:20and she comes running out. Are you booing? Just off of like pure
- 58:25instinct? Are you booing her? Or are you cheering? I'm cheering her
- 58:30because I'm a fan. It's always start. But I'm saying I'm not saying
- 58:32she's full on babyface. I'm saying she's kind of in between. She's strolling
- 58:37that fence. I think I think right now they're undecided on whether they want
- 58:44to fully make her heel or if they want to try to turn her heel.
- 58:47So they're kind of playing her in the middle ground and seeing where the
- 58:51crowd goes with her. That's where I think they're at with her as far
- 58:53as her character, because if she's in that match and she gets the whooping
- 58:59on on Naya Jacks, what do you think the crowd's gonna do. They're
- 59:02gonna cheer Zoe. Sorry, now she get that going out there and stomping
- 59:07out Raquel Rodriguez, then she might get booed out, booed a little bit
- 59:12or she tried to throw hands with Rhea, depending on maybe what Ria did
- 59:15thirty seconds before, she could get cheered or booed. So I think it
- 59:20kind of depends on who they they pit Zoe up against. She's not somebody
- 59:24that the crowd's going to necessarily react depending on what's done to her, but
- 59:30they'll react to her depending on what she's doing to somebody else and who that
- 59:35is that she's doing it too. You know what I totally figure out about.
- 59:42It's weird that I would forget about this, but being where they are,
- 59:47the outfits that they're gonna have to wear fully clothed, fully clothed,
- 59:53the three excel her larger than the average shirt. You know, it's like
- 1:00:02it's like wearing a big onesie. But yeah, that's what nia Jack swears
- 1:00:07anyway, so she'll be fine. Yeah, but no no seat through laced
- 1:00:10parts of it. Yeah yeah, so I even say that's in that positive
- 1:00:16Yeah, you know, I don't. I don't even know, like what
- 1:00:22other I don't know the this is normally something that Natalia is always on our
- 1:00:27card like this, yeah, not this year, but yeah, Doyle,
- 1:00:37who do you think, well, Dre, who do you think is gonna
- 1:00:39come out on top. I mean, did you did you say you give
- 1:00:43your thousand? Zoe? Sorry? But do you do you think it's gonna
- 1:00:45be real? I mean it should be obviously, anybody with half a brain
- 1:00:51that shanea Bass walking out his champion, I'm joking. No, tell me,
- 1:00:58don't go back on your word. You tell me why Shanan Besler would
- 1:01:01be perfect. First of all, she would not be perfect the champion.
- 1:01:06She's not winning, obviously, Rea Ripley's walking out. This match is basically,
- 1:01:10how can we put our top singles competitors on Raw, excluding Becky Lynch?
- 1:01:16How can we put them all in a substantial match and not make anybody
- 1:01:21look weak? Put them all in one match. That way, nobody looks
- 1:01:25weak coming out of it. Weird. Ripley finally defends the fucking title and
- 1:01:30wins without making somebody look weak by beating the shit out of them. That's
- 1:01:35pretty much all this is. It's a showcase, it's kind of it is
- 1:01:40what it is. And I think they probably, especially since they've been spending
- 1:01:45more time focusing on real Ripley being the leader not leader of Judgment Day,
- 1:01:50than putting her in an actual feud with somebody. So they're just going to
- 1:01:55do this and they'll probably use this as a way to build her up again
- 1:02:00as being the most dominant women on the on raw. She beat five people
- 1:02:05in the match, YadA, YadA, whatever. Whatever this is. This
- 1:02:09is just that, Like, there's no there's not really much intrigue or mystery
- 1:02:15to this match. She's she's gonna win. I mean, the only thing
- 1:02:20that you could the only thing that's interesting is if you're putting money on who's
- 1:02:23gonna take the pen like we discussed, like you mentioned earlier, who's gonna
- 1:02:28be the one that reoppends to win. That's that's where the betting money is
- 1:02:31at. That's where over sports books are at. Like, ain't no,
- 1:02:35ain't no odds on who's gonna win. It's who she's gonna pin. If
- 1:02:38I had to put a bet on it, I'm gonna say it's probably I
- 1:02:43kind of want to say it's probably Zowai Stark who winds up taking it.
- 1:02:46Probably Zoe, But honestly know, I'm actually gonna put money off Roquel Robbery.
- 1:02:51If I had to put money on it, I'll put it off Rackael
- 1:02:52rob Yeah. You know what they like these wrestlers. If you're looking at
- 1:02:58the car uh for this match, it's like there's gonna be a lot of
- 1:03:01just spots because a lot of these girls can't put on a full match,
- 1:03:07a good one anyway, and and that's what Rie is there for. So
- 1:03:10this just seems like a spot match. We're gonna see so and so pick
- 1:03:15up. You know, I want to predict right now, everybody in that
- 1:03:21match picks up Nia Jacks at least once. Uh, all them up at
- 1:03:25least once. Yeah, yeah, I didn't. I think I think they're
- 1:03:32gonna try to one up each other with Nia Jacks, like, oh I
- 1:03:36can pick her up. Oh no, I can pick her up too,
- 1:03:38Like, oh no, I can pick her up as well. And this
- 1:03:42everybody's just gonna pick up Nia Jacks. Uh. I figured they were gonna
- 1:03:47do the whole pyramid souplex power. Yeah. Yeah, it's one or the
- 1:03:57other. It's either gonna be utterly ridiculous or they're gonna Yeah, they're gonna
- 1:04:00have one massive spot with her, and she's gonna be the one massive spot
- 1:04:05that's gonna put her out of the match, you know. And that's another
- 1:04:10one where you can put your sportsbecs on Who's gonna be the one who delivers
- 1:04:14the power bomb in that spot? Is it Real on the bottom power bombing
- 1:04:16Nya Jacks? Who then has who's superplexing two or the other ones? Or
- 1:04:23is it Naya Jacks on the bottom delivering the power bomb to somebody? Or
- 1:04:27is it Raquel Rodriguez delivering the power bomb? Mm hmmm, because it's gonna
- 1:04:32be one of those three on the bottom delivering the power bomb. And my
- 1:04:36guess is I would think Naya Jacks would be the super it's gonna be in
- 1:04:41this yeah, taking it. She's gonna be in the superplexed position, probably
- 1:04:45with two other superstars. She's gonna like a double yep. Joel, tell
- 1:04:51me why uh off? Eric, you told me that you were super confident
- 1:04:57that Nia Jackson was gonna win this match. I think they would need to
- 1:05:03put an extension on the belt for her like they did for hundred the Giant
- 1:05:09when he Anyway, Yeah, I mean fucking Rhea is incredible. She's probably
- 1:05:15my favorite female performer currently. And then saying a lot because I fucking love
- 1:05:21Bianca and you know I also love my Irish last kisser Kicker. But that
- 1:05:28being said, this title run of hers has been pretty pretty pretty not so
- 1:05:35great. Uh, it's not really her fault, uh, you know,
- 1:05:39it's more of a function of you know, lack of credible opponents not named
- 1:05:44Becky Lynch. You know, she's so much better than everybody else on the
- 1:05:48raw roster except BEGGI lyunch, I should say. And that's I think why
- 1:05:54we're kind of getting this dumpster fire match here, because none of these challenges,
- 1:05:58by themselves are really do double opponents for Riha at this point. I
- 1:06:00mean, she's beaten Raquel how many times. Now, Naya's terrible, she's
- 1:06:10just big. It's always a rookie. And Shana really hasn't done anything to
- 1:06:15make me think that she would have a fucking chance in hell against Rhya Ripley.
- 1:06:20Yeah, somebody I think Wayne mentioned the you know, it's basically Raquel
- 1:06:28and three heels. You know, and Ria, who is a heel,
- 1:06:30but she's you know, she's a leader of a heel faction. She's close,
- 1:06:34you know, very closely aligned with the healiest heel that ever healed in
- 1:06:40Dom. Yet she gets a ton of cheers. You know, she's kind
- 1:06:44of one of the only performers right now that it's kind of like a tweener.
- 1:06:47You know, in this day and age, for the most part,
- 1:06:51faces are getting cheered and heels are getting booed. We're kind of the audience.
- 1:06:56We as an audience are more or less following the rules, say like
- 1:07:00we're supposed to be, you know, whereas twenty years ago, I think
- 1:07:04you know, you know, or even more recently than that, you know,
- 1:07:09you bowed the ship out of you know, Sina, you know what
- 1:07:12I mean. You know, you cheered the heels and you were booing the
- 1:07:15faces. But nowadays, I think, you know, if scene is even
- 1:07:17getting getting a mostly positive response these days. So it's strange that she's one
- 1:07:28of the only people that can kind of straddle that line. So yeah,
- 1:07:31I mean that that that dynamic will be something I'll have my eye on.
- 1:07:38I mean, they keep trying to make something out of Roquel, so I
- 1:07:41expect them. I expect her to be and her struggle, you know,
- 1:07:45to be kind of a focal point of the match. Yeah, but at
- 1:07:48the end of the day, Ray is going to retain and you know,
- 1:07:53I think she's going to hold the title till Becky beats at WrestleMania forty.
- 1:07:59So yeah, I think he's gonna win, and I think she's gonna keep
- 1:08:01winning, and we are getting a Tower of Doom. But how long?
- 1:08:09How long can they keep Riya and Becky lynch apart? Like I said,
- 1:08:15I I think that, you know, probably WrestleMania match. But how long
- 1:08:20can they really drag this ship out? They can? I mean, like
- 1:08:25right now, she she's all she's off that title run from NXC. It's
- 1:08:30a perfect time to just write her off of TV. She just needed reason
- 1:08:33to like, oh she's injured, Oh she's you know, she's doing a
- 1:08:39movie. No, Like no, she just like wants to take some fucking
- 1:08:43time off. I mean just take it to the crib like Bianka. Dude.
- 1:08:46Yeah, even though they wrote Yaka off right like Rianco is only gone
- 1:08:50for like three months, like a short amount of time, it went by
- 1:08:55so quickly. So like I said, like we're gonna talk about it.
- 1:09:00Well, no, I kind of discussed it before, but like you know,
- 1:09:04if Drew would pick up the title, that would be perfect opportunity for
- 1:09:09Seth as well take some time off. But anyway, let's let's move on
- 1:09:15here. What's the next match? Eh, Cody Rhodes versus Damian Priest.
- 1:09:24Uh you know, is this is Cody Rhodes going into this match uninjured.
- 1:09:30He seems to be always going into a match injured almost all the time.
- 1:09:36It seems like like, uh, I'm pretty sure I see Damian Priest actually
- 1:09:48winning this match. And let me let me tell you why, just because
- 1:09:54the we're I always feel like on a card like this, we always get
- 1:10:00matchup. We're very disappointed with that that went somewhere. We did not think
- 1:10:03it was gonna go takes a left turn. I think this is the match.
- 1:10:06It looks very promising Cody Rhodes, you know, like predictable. I
- 1:10:13would say, you know, I feel like it's a very easy peg.
- 1:10:16But I would say out of nowhere, I would say Damion Priest picking up
- 1:10:19this win and maybe not clean. I say, maybe because he needs a
- 1:10:27credible, credible, clean win over somebody like like Cody Roads. But I
- 1:10:31think there's gonna be a little bit of interference here by somebody one of the
- 1:10:36many other you know, uh, Judgment Day members. I mean they're all
- 1:10:44over this card to begin with, helping Damian Priest slither away with a win
- 1:10:48here. You know, Cody Rose can take an l from Damian Priest.
- 1:10:54Damian Priest, we'll get some credibility, more credibility, you know, on
- 1:10:59his own I'm talking. I'm not speaking of him and Finn with the tag
- 1:11:03titles. Honestly, we we didn't even we don't even really need this fucking
- 1:11:11match. We should be having a tag match on on their uh to be
- 1:11:16honest, but instead they blew out too many times already. Yeah, they
- 1:11:23blew that WAT way too many times. You know, lost the titles,
- 1:11:27got the titles. That was fucking weird. You know that happened in between
- 1:11:32podcast episodes, just winning and losing the tag titles. You know, the
- 1:11:36North American title one was kind of weird to begin with. And uh then
- 1:11:41they did it with the tag titles, and they're like, now we're gonna
- 1:11:45do it to Rea. Uh no, you're fucking nun uh but uh,
- 1:11:53Dre, what do you think you think I'm crazy? Do you think Damian
- 1:11:56Priest wouldn't be coming out of this with a with a W? I don't
- 1:12:01think you're crazy about it. I think Damian Priest should win this match,
- 1:12:08and I think he should win it probably due to some sort of outside interference
- 1:12:13like Fine popping up interfering, which is going to lead to a j run
- 1:12:17in and ultimately Damian Priest winning. I think that's how it should go.
- 1:12:25My fear is that they won't do that because Cody Rhodes is kind of in
- 1:12:31that position now where he doesn't lose where you have to be of a certain
- 1:12:38status in order to get a win over him, kind of like where brock
- 1:12:43Lesler didn't lose to anybody unless you are at a certain level. Cody Roads
- 1:12:46has almost kind of inherited that spot now on the roster as the top babyface
- 1:12:54where he ain't losing to nobody unless you're at a certain level. And my
- 1:12:59fear is that Damien Priest hasn't been elevated to that level yet to where he
- 1:13:03can where they're willing to book him to beat Cody Rhodes in a match,
- 1:13:09even though like I said, he should by for all intents and purposes,
- 1:13:13he should win this match. A win like this would benefit him more than
- 1:13:17Cody just getting another win over somebody. But yeah, ugh, I'll be
- 1:13:28I'll be going into this match rooting for Damian Priest to win. I'll say
- 1:13:31that, but I would not be surprised if we get the whole Finnbala running,
- 1:13:40maybe even JD running, maybe even dom to running, Jay show up,
- 1:13:45Maybe Sammy's Aint gets another run in. It is just a whole clusterfuck
- 1:13:49of booking which leads to Cody Roads winning. I would not be surprised if
- 1:13:55that happens, but it should be Damien Priest who wins this match. Do
- 1:14:02what do you agree? Are in the middle? I feel like we've been
- 1:14:09watching this match for months some variation thereof like this feels like a raw match,
- 1:14:17Like could would it have killed him to give this some kind of stakes,
- 1:14:21like put the fucking briefcase on the line, you know what I mean,
- 1:14:25or at least put them in a cage or something, you know something,
- 1:14:29instead of they just give us this. It feels like a filler match.
- 1:14:32You know, the belongs on raw. Yeah, there's just like tread
- 1:14:38and water with Cody until they can heat him back up to go take his
- 1:14:42lat next shot at Roman. You know, they have no idea what to
- 1:14:45do with him. In the meantime. It feels like, yeah, I
- 1:14:50mean, I guess Cody's gonna win, but who, I mean, why
- 1:14:56who cares? You know, there's no there's no reason to give a ship.
- 1:14:59What diff does it make who wins? That doesn't make any difference.
- 1:15:02You know, if you're gonna have Priests beat Cody, why not make it
- 1:15:05for the fucking briefcase, you know, establish him as a dominant you know,
- 1:15:11Uh, make his if he beats Cody, make it, make make
- 1:15:15it mean something, you know. Uh. But I guess the fact that
- 1:15:19they're not doing that means Cody's gonna win, and they don't want to give
- 1:15:23him the briefcase, So I'm gonna pick Cody Rose. Yeah, that's a
- 1:15:29valid point. Like if they had put some stakes on this match, and
- 1:15:33there would have been a much stronger reason for Damian Priest to win, so
- 1:15:40that and while also protecting Cody in the sense that it would build up Damian
- 1:15:46Priest as a guy who can win when there's something on the line. You
- 1:15:51know, he can when the when the stakes matter, he can step up
- 1:15:55and perform. And Cody falling short of that doesn't hurt him at all because
- 1:16:00he's still Cody motherfucking Rose. He's still the top baby face. So like
- 1:16:03it's one of those matches where kind of Damian Priest has everything to lose,
- 1:16:10Cody Rose has nothing to lose in this man. Well, I'll say,
- 1:16:12Damian Priest has everything to lose, but he has something to lose, whereas
- 1:16:15Cody Rose has nothing to lose in this match. Where at least if they
- 1:16:25even even if they just put it in a cage or something, you know,
- 1:16:28to keep the other Judgment day and people out or say we can make
- 1:16:30this more interesting something. Yeah, it just it just feels like a here's
- 1:16:35a match, Doyle Nona, what La Knight this match? No, I
- 1:16:47don't. I don't see that happening because l A. Knight really doesn't have
- 1:16:51his beef, isit really with judgment At the moment, He's focused more on
- 1:16:57uh bloodline, if anything right and the bumper. But yeah, yeah,
- 1:17:01but if they like if they could have that kind of lost my train of
- 1:17:09thought. But yeah, if they could have put this in a cage,
- 1:17:13like you said with Cody, that that would uh yep, yep, they
- 1:17:17totally lost that thought. I was trying to just something, just something on
- 1:17:21the stakes, just the regular singles match, because these are all just regular
- 1:17:27singles matches except for the Women's Fatal Five. They're very bland. Like I
- 1:17:31said, it seemed like it was very specific matches that were picked for only
- 1:17:38specific transactions of either titles or win losses. Uh, It's so that's how
- 1:17:45these Saudy pay per views always are though, It's like, uh like I
- 1:17:49always feel like it's like a multiverse. Like something that happens over in Saudy
- 1:17:55it doesn't count when it comes back over here, right like sometimes that's how
- 1:17:59we like to think about it. Now, what could make this match mean
- 1:18:04something is if it wasn't in the midst of Cody and his boys versus the
- 1:18:12whole Judgment day. If they could somehow focus this strictly and make it Cody
- 1:18:17Damien Priest feud, even though Damien is within bloodline and Cody obviously the top
- 1:18:23baby Face. If they could somehow make this be like maybe quote unquote match
- 1:18:27one in a ongoing lingering Cody Damian Priest feud, Yeah with you know,
- 1:18:33then that you could get something out of this, you know, even if
- 1:18:36Cody won and then Damian wins follow up match at some point on a main
- 1:18:44event of Raw or something like that. If they could somehow make somehow turn
- 1:18:46this Babyfaces versus feud you know, I mean, versus Heels faction feud thing
- 1:18:55and somehow find a way to focus it on those two, or at least
- 1:18:59let these to have their own internal focused feud with each other within the context
- 1:19:03of the greater baby Face versus Heil fashion feud. Then you could really then
- 1:19:08you could develop something. Then you could have something that builds up Damian Priest
- 1:19:13and gives Cody Road something relatively substantial to do while buying time till he again.
- 1:19:20Researveerced his focus on Roman reigns in the world and the WWE title.
- 1:19:27But I feel like they're not doing that right now. They're just kind of
- 1:19:30treading water until they build up to Survivor series and whatever potential wargames match we
- 1:19:36get. Yeah, that's true, just prolonging until we get some Warrians,
- 1:19:45which is yeah, so juicy coming up. I can't wait. That's like
- 1:19:48three weeks, yeah real quick. Yeah yeah, coming out of this,
- 1:19:54they're gonna be full speed ahead into fucking Survivor series. And if I think
- 1:20:00some of what happens on this show is probably just going to be, you
- 1:20:03know, just setting up Survivor series, Like that's kind of one thing we
- 1:20:08really haven't kind of talked about much within the context of these matches. Is
- 1:20:14are they going Are these kind of just like chapter one or first acts into
- 1:20:19continuing storylines in the Survivor series, or are these things gonna be some are
- 1:20:26things gonna happen in this match that are server as the catalysts towards you know,
- 1:20:31jumping in the fast lane towards the Survivor series, Like I could see
- 1:20:36that happening with especially with whatever happens in this Cody Damien match. Like if
- 1:20:44any match on this card is really a setup for Survivor Series, it's probably
- 1:20:49this match, which is another reason why I think we're probably gonna see a
- 1:20:54clusterfuck of interference. Yeah, well I totally expect a clusterfuck of interference for
- 1:21:03sure. All right, Uh, let's see what what's the next match on
- 1:21:13the card here that we can talk? Di scuse? Do you guys need
- 1:21:15to take a break at all? You guys got mm hm, you guys
- 1:21:20got your pist bottles nearby? We're all good? All right? Like we
- 1:21:25just go, yeah, what I'm drinking mountain? Do? I hope I
- 1:21:27don't confuse them. I don't confuse them that. Remember that one time,
- 1:21:30that one episode you did? Oh that was great? All right, let's
- 1:21:41roll into and his name is John con Versus solos CoA. I had to
- 1:21:54play that bomber. It was a must every time we mentioned John Cena.
- 1:21:59Uh uh, you know, the the writers are on strike right now,
- 1:22:04so the there's a lot going on. So John Cena actually has some great
- 1:22:12time and he's been making the best of it. You know, it would
- 1:22:15be nice rock if we could see some other wrestlers, you know, who
- 1:22:24should be available, who aren't busy. But yeah, it's good to see
- 1:22:29John Cena back. You know, as discussed over a bunch of promos the
- 1:22:34past couple of weeks. John Cena and we discussed it several times actually,
- 1:22:40you know, every time John Cena has a match. You know, we
- 1:22:45discussed it how his win loss record has been pretty bad. Over the past
- 1:22:50what two thousand something days, he hasn't won a match. It's ridiculous amount
- 1:22:59he's been putting over by to talent. Uh you know, is this where
- 1:23:03he finally gets a w you know it's been a while. Is this where
- 1:23:10he gets his momentum? You know for something bigger? Can Solo taken n
- 1:23:16L from John Cena? If not, this is a this is a big
- 1:23:20win for Solo but you know, where's Johnson to go from here after taking
- 1:23:27out of the loss. I you know, I don't for see Johnson a
- 1:23:30leading I see him sticking around at least till Survivor series or out. Who
- 1:23:35knows at this point with the writer the strike, he might just fucking you
- 1:23:42could, you know, stay all the way after the rumble if he wanted
- 1:23:45to, and then that would be it. But uh, I don't know
- 1:23:50this, This would go either way. I'm kind of split right down in
- 1:23:53the middle here because Johnston needs to win, but this would be a huge
- 1:23:59win for so you know, no title involved involved here, just a match
- 1:24:06with the good that's what they're calling him, their hardcore on that the goat
- 1:24:15uh Drey. I mean, I'm kind of split down the middle here.
- 1:24:18I can't I can't really decide because I mean, I can go either way
- 1:24:24persuade here. Who do you think if this were just John Cena versus Solo
- 1:24:30Sokoa and had just been built up as him beefing with Bloodline or what have
- 1:24:35you, then I can see it going either way. But the very fact
- 1:24:41that they made an emphasis or put an emphasis on John Cena is losing streak
- 1:24:47tells me one hundred percent he's winning this match. The fact that they the
- 1:24:53fact that he went through the he made a whole point of or he took
- 1:24:57what people had been bringing up on social media and made that a point of
- 1:25:01a promo, and that it's been a point of discussion in the last few
- 1:25:06weeks, and that seems to be more of the storyline than anything. Is
- 1:25:13the fact that he's on this losing streak and he now has a solo match
- 1:25:17with Solo for a one on one match with Solo tells me he's going to
- 1:25:23win because Solo has already taken L's so him losing another match, especially to
- 1:25:29someone the likes of John Cena, doesn't hurt Solo nothing. It doesn't make
- 1:25:32him look weak at all. And John Cena has everything to gain by breaking
- 1:25:38this streak, and it gives you that feel good, celebratory moment of him
- 1:25:43winning and celebrating in the ring afterwards and all that stuff before he potentially returns
- 1:25:50to Hollywood. Because yeah, just as much as he could stick around past
- 1:25:57this past Crown, going into Survivor Series and maybe beyond, he could also
- 1:26:02just as quickly, at the drop of a dime, have to go right
- 1:26:06back if this, if the strike gets resolved, and WW it's been reported
- 1:26:13that WW has it out for him for whenever it does get resolved. They've
- 1:26:17got an out that they can, you know, basically pull that trigger when
- 1:26:24needed. So I don't think I think they're going to keep him on top
- 1:26:31as the as a yeah, as a babyface, and they're not gonna delve
- 1:26:36further into a I've been losing and my losing streak has continued, because you
- 1:26:44know, if he loses this, then what then what's the storyline moving forward
- 1:26:48for him? Obviously there you'd have to you'd have to kind of go further
- 1:26:53with that, like you can't have him to take this loss and then oh,
- 1:26:56well he's gone, because then he comes back, and you know he's
- 1:27:00not coming back necessarily as hey legend quote go unquote John Cena. He's coming
- 1:27:06back as hey, he's the loser. You know that. I think if
- 1:27:12he goes out on an l and returns to Hollywood, I think that that's
- 1:27:15the one thing that could actually kind of hurt him a little bit. But
- 1:27:19him winning breaks the streak, celebratory feel good moment, Bye JOHNSONA, thanks
- 1:27:26for the quick run. Then he goes out, you know, as the
- 1:27:30same Johnson that we all know and love. So I'm in the mindset that,
- 1:27:35yeah, it's almost a certainty that he's going to win this match.
- 1:27:42I'd be I'd be genuinely surprised if Solo sic picked up the win in this
- 1:27:47match. Doyle or how do you feel? Do you feel the same?
- 1:27:55Pretty much? I think I said last episode or an episode or two ago,
- 1:28:01that if Sena doesn't get a win or two here, beating him is
- 1:28:05going to be meaningless. And when I said that, I hadn't didn't realize
- 1:28:10he hadn't won a singles match since what was it twenty eighteen or some five
- 1:28:14years And yeah, uh, you know, but this is another match that
- 1:28:19doesn't feel like a pay per view match. It feels like a SmackDown match,
- 1:28:23you know. So I guess I'm not going to pick against my fellow
- 1:28:28mass whole John Cena. You know, but even if he doesn't win,
- 1:28:32if he if he doesn't turn the math around or whatever he phrase he was
- 1:28:36using, you know, at the end of the day he sold John Cena.
- 1:28:41You know, he could still believably beat basically anybody, and we really
- 1:28:45wouldn't bat An eyelash. Uh. So, I mean again, it's just
- 1:28:50no stakes here. It doesn't really matter. Now, I should say I
- 1:28:57wrote in my notes no stakes. But while you guys were talking, I
- 1:29:01jotted something down and I think I maybe crack the code a little bit here.
- 1:29:05I was thinking about possible war games lineups, and I got j D,
- 1:29:15Priest, Finn, Jimmy and Solo versus Sammy, Cody, k o
- 1:29:18J and Sena. Well, j D and Sammy have a have a match,
- 1:29:24Cody and Priest have a match, Sena and Solo have a match.
- 1:29:29So I forget who it was said. Maybe this is all leading to something
- 1:29:32may actually have been right, Okay, run that run that line up again
- 1:29:39by me, Sammy, Cody, Sammy, Cody, k o J,
- 1:29:45Sina. Okay, so Ko and Jo the other two? Right, But
- 1:29:49I mean three of the five have one on one matches against each other,
- 1:29:56and the kind of an as you said, will find what JD and Sammy,
- 1:30:03Priest and Cody's about on on the on the heel side, you said
- 1:30:09JD, Damien and Jimmy and Solo. Okay, So no Dom or maybe
- 1:30:17Dom instead of JJ. I was trying to make it fit that they make
- 1:30:21JD an official member. No, No, I mean no, it's it's
- 1:30:27totally feasible. I could see if they if you want, if Dom is
- 1:30:32involved in something else, a better choice, I think maybe maybe not,
- 1:30:41because JD is the better performer in the ring. So you need somebody in
- 1:30:45the you need somebody in that match who can pull off crazy spots. I
- 1:30:49think JD McDonald would be more qualified for that. And then Dom, can
- 1:30:56you know, Dom strong enough that he can stand on his own in some
- 1:30:58other or some other feud or depending on what NXT has going on whatever,
- 1:31:05right, yeah, or whatever NXT has going on that weekend if they have
- 1:31:09something going on the same weekend as Survivor series, because I think that's maybe
- 1:31:13I'm mistaken with that, but it kind of think it seems like with at
- 1:31:16least the Big four pay per views that they have, yeah, they try
- 1:31:20to line something up with NXT around that same time as well, because they
- 1:31:24know that it's one of the Big four and it's got more eyes on the
- 1:31:27product at that during that time, so he could be preoccupied on NXT doing
- 1:31:30his thing at that moment. So I know, I think JD, Finn
- 1:31:34and Priests representing judgment day in that actually would make more sense along with uh,
- 1:31:43Jimmy and Solo because we haven't gotten to it yet. But rumor is
- 1:31:47that Roman might not be working Survivor series surprise surprise, right, kind of
- 1:31:54crazy to think about, but yeah, right, good talk. Well I
- 1:32:04was on touch base. More on that when we get when we get to
- 1:32:08the main event, but well, at least, uh, you know the
- 1:32:15pop is gonna be fucking heats for John Cena. Uh okay, So,
- 1:32:23Bianca Bella has been gone for a couple of months. She when she lost
- 1:32:29her title, she had a few rematches and couldn't beat EO Sky right,
- 1:32:36went away for a while. It's come back now has a title shot again.
- 1:32:45Do you think this is you know, third times? I think it's
- 1:32:49third time, third time? Starm here where she gets back, you know?
- 1:32:54H And we proceed on with biancabell Air at as champion again, leading
- 1:33:02up to something bigger for her and h or does EO Sky you know finally
- 1:33:10does she still have her number and puts Bianca bell Air away again and you
- 1:33:15know, just solidifies that she is the better wrestler out of the two and
- 1:33:20just end this feud once and for all, Jerry sounds like you want to
- 1:33:25say something. I'm not sure if that storyline quite lines up, because don't
- 1:33:33forget Eo faced Bianca at Backlash in Puerto Rico and beat her clean. Oh
- 1:33:41yes, yes, yeah, so she got it. She has a win
- 1:33:44on EO and then EO only won because she cashed in the money in the
- 1:33:48bank after the triple threat match that Bianca had with Charlotte and Osca, has
- 1:33:57Bianca gotten a rematch yet because since that happened, she wanted to get her
- 1:34:00licked back, but she didn't because some low privilege bitch got in a fucking
- 1:34:04way. But I ain't gonna go there, but you know, Charlotte kind
- 1:34:11of jumped in front of her and Yaka never really got her. She hasn't
- 1:34:17gotten her one on one with Leo since losing the title. This is actually
- 1:34:21her first actual one. But either way, this is the the rubber match
- 1:34:30per se. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can say this kind of
- 1:34:32sort of ye kind of sort of. So you know, I feel like
- 1:34:36this is maybe the last time we're gonna see these two duke it out.
- 1:34:41And you know, they were able to drag this out this long, even
- 1:34:45with her gone you know, making it interesting when she returned. So uh,
- 1:34:54you know she could easily because the title, you know, from Bailey,
- 1:35:00But I don't I don't know if they're still looking. I mean they've
- 1:35:03been poking at it for a long time. If they're breaking up, you
- 1:35:08know that that group, but it's always hints to it. But I don't
- 1:35:15know. I I CEO winning it and continuing on this this range she has.
- 1:35:21I think she's gonna be the one to win this feud so we can
- 1:35:26take her a little bit more serious, you know, going on going moving
- 1:35:30forward here, and uh, I don't know. I feel like there's gonna
- 1:35:34be some new meat for Biancavilla or to have to deal with Drey. Who
- 1:35:41do you think is gonna come out on top of this match? I do
- 1:35:45think Eo Sky is gonna win. I just fear that, like all the
- 1:35:50other wins title defenses she's had, it's not going to do for her what
- 1:35:56it should be doing because of the constant interference from Bailey and Dakota Kai.
- 1:36:02Maybe my thinking is off, but I still always feel like a champion needs
- 1:36:09clean wins to establish themselves. As long as you win, and there's always
- 1:36:14some sort of asterisk or some sort of circumstance surrounding your win. It doesn't
- 1:36:17really help you that much unless you've already established yourself as that kind of conniving
- 1:36:24type of heel who finds, you know, devious ways to pull out a
- 1:36:29win. But even then you got to do it yourself. That hasn't been
- 1:36:33the case with EO. She's always had assistance in securing her wins, and
- 1:36:40that's not helping establish her as her own credible champion. It's just her just
- 1:36:46holding on to the title, even though she's having great fucking matches. She
- 1:36:51had a great match with Charlotte, but Bailey had to get involved to help
- 1:36:57her win. She had a great match with fucking Osca, but Bailey had
- 1:37:01to get involved to help her win, and that that's hurting her and it's
- 1:37:06almost countering these great matches that she's having. And I believe it, she's
- 1:37:12gonna have another great match with Bianca, and once again Bailey and Dakota are
- 1:37:16gonna get involved, especially Bailey, and that's gonna lead to her holding onto
- 1:37:21the title and it's not going to help her as much as it should be
- 1:37:25helping her. I feel like Io often will tell him not to help though,
- 1:37:33right, Yeah, EO's always telling them not to interfere, like,
- 1:37:38don't interfere, stay out of it, I got it. Put then they
- 1:37:41interfere anyway. Yeah, and that's kind of the problem. Like, at
- 1:37:45what point, if that's gonna be the keep the continuing running theme, at
- 1:37:49what point does EO Skuy get sick of it? Well? Sure, right,
- 1:37:53at what point does EO Skuy finally get sick of it and just say,
- 1:37:56Yo, get the fuck out of here, I got this. Like
- 1:37:59if she could do that, Like if that happened in this match where Bailey
- 1:38:02and Dakota tried to show up and EO finally took a stand and said,
- 1:38:06no, get out, state the fuck out of this. I got this,
- 1:38:11and then she goes on to beat Bianca Clean. That would be phenomenal
- 1:38:15for her, and that would really establish her as her own standalone champion and
- 1:38:21probably elevate her to being a bit higher in stature within Damage Control than Bailey.
- 1:38:30And it almost, in some excuse me, in some subliminal way,
- 1:38:34if you kind of psychoanalyze it, you could almost argue that Bailey's doing this
- 1:38:40on purpose in order to keep EO Sky so much suppressed beneath her, even
- 1:38:45though EO is the champion. She's like, yeah, you're the champion,
- 1:38:48but you're only holding onto that title because of me, And it's still helping
- 1:38:53Bailey still maintain her status as the alpha within the faction, even though EO
- 1:39:00theoretically should be the OUTPHA because she's the women's champion. Toyle, do you
- 1:39:04feel the same way? Uh? Yeah, Actually I kind of fantasy booked
- 1:39:13this one as well, and yeah, it was kind of similar to that
- 1:39:16kind of Uh. But I think this is this could be a Match of
- 1:39:19the Night candidate, but it's also the one I have the most trouble predicting.
- 1:39:28You know. As much as I love Bianca, I don't necessarily want
- 1:39:32to see her rocketed right back into being champion, you know. I think
- 1:39:36I think a chase story with her is much better. I'd like to see
- 1:39:42her do some things away from a couple of programs away from the title actually,
- 1:39:46uh, before she comes back into the title picture, you know,
- 1:39:49for WrestleMania season or whatever. Uh. You know, But EO and Damage
- 1:39:54Control has the numbers, so I think she'll retain here. Uh you know,
- 1:39:58But like I said, I'm not convinced. You know, I could.
- 1:40:00I could see a situation where this is where Bailey's you know, Boobery
- 1:40:09ends up costing you know, the title. But I couldn't see a scenario.
- 1:40:12I could see a double switch here. We've been calling for the Bailey
- 1:40:15I'm sorry, the Bianca heel turn forever. Uh. If this is where
- 1:40:20EO finally has enough of Bailey shit, and you know, it shows that
- 1:40:28she could turn herself face and if Beyonca loses and throws a bitch fit over
- 1:40:32it, uh, maybe she can be heal. And maybe you could pull
- 1:40:36off the double turn, you know, extremely hard to do. Uh.
- 1:40:42And I don't know, Like I think you could maybe pull that off in
- 1:40:45a Boston or New York or a Philly or Chicago. But I don't know
- 1:40:50if the Saudi audience is going to be quite Uh. I don't want to
- 1:40:56say sophisticated, but to pull off a double turn, you know. But
- 1:41:02so I'm gonna pick it up. Yeah, I think we're all picking up.
- 1:41:06But yeah I'm not. That's probably my least confident of any prediction I
- 1:41:14made Monkey Rinch wild card question. Okay, I go for it. Could
- 1:41:20we possibly see if Bailey and Dakota interfere on Neo's guy's behalf. Could w
- 1:41:30W E throw somebody in to come to the aid of Bianca in the form
- 1:41:35of Jade Cargill. Oh, I could absolutely see that it could. But
- 1:41:42like I know, they even like showcasing her around, you know, like
- 1:41:48promoting that she is a big deal. I guess, trying to also get
- 1:41:53like the feel of the crowd. You know, like how did you kind
- 1:41:57of react to her pop you know, like having her stacked up against you
- 1:42:01know, being side by side, like with Charlotte. I mean we saw
- 1:42:05that they had them both on super high heels so they can stand next to
- 1:42:10Triple h and tower over that man, even though Triple Ah's six foot four
- 1:42:16so squat Yeah, he was squatting. He did whatever he could and make
- 1:42:20them look tall ship and then you know, bringing her around Becky Lynch and
- 1:42:26a lot of the talk of the fantasy booking with her and Beyonce bell Air.
- 1:42:30I mean you're like, yeah, that totally would be awesome, right,
- 1:42:34But like do we put her right to the top, like or do
- 1:42:43we do the slow burn? I mean she's young, so like cross,
- 1:42:48no, she ain't. But like I can see her just you know,
- 1:42:54if it's if if she's going to n XT, you know, not to
- 1:42:57the main roster, she's gonna dominate the next two roster. But like I
- 1:43:03don't know, I mean it's fifty to fifty. Whether they put her directly
- 1:43:09on the main roster, that'd be the perfect candidate to whether team with or
- 1:43:15you know, be against. But you know, if like there's also I'm
- 1:43:19gonna throw this out there, that's you know, you wanna talk about wild
- 1:43:23cards. You know what if like Bionca just cannot regain this women's title and
- 1:43:29it just drives her nuts, you know, to the point where like she
- 1:43:32joins a certain heal stable that's upcoming, you know, with two face wrestlers
- 1:43:38that have been turned heeled with new music and new gear. You know,
- 1:43:44I can see her jerning where the street profits are. You know, if
- 1:43:48we ever see Bionca go heal, we gotta always That's that's another wild card.
- 1:43:54You know, I didn't even factor that that could happened. But that's
- 1:44:00to me more of a slow burned type of thing where she would have to
- 1:44:05fail a couple of times to win the title before I could see her reaching
- 1:44:10that level of frustration because don't forget she did. She is technically a two
- 1:44:15times WW Women's a raw women's champion, however you want to call it,
- 1:44:20because she'd be she uh did technically win at SummerSlam before YO cashed in,
- 1:44:31so she her her attempts at getting the title back have been successful. So
- 1:44:39I would see she I couldn't see it happening off of just this one loss,
- 1:44:43right, Like she would have to lose here and then probably lose again
- 1:44:47at like Survivor series, and then maybe I could see her transitioning into joining
- 1:44:58lastly's Fast Facts. Maybe, But like I say, now, but for
- 1:45:02the record, I don't think the Jade Cargill thing is actually gonna happen.
- 1:45:06I was just kind of throwing it out there, like, yeah, I'm
- 1:45:11just throwing it out there because she has been making these appearances on television and
- 1:45:16on the pay per views. At some point she's got to do more than
- 1:45:20just appear and just show up and you know, stare down with somebody or
- 1:45:26take a seat in a chair or something. At some point she's gonna have
- 1:45:29to actually, we're gonna have to actually see some physicality from her. And
- 1:45:32if there was something that a place that could happen. I could see it
- 1:45:39being either this pl or Survivis series where we actually see the first bit of
- 1:45:45physicality from her. Doesn't mean that she is immediately become an active, you
- 1:45:49know, an active wrestler on whatever roster, but just something to again further
- 1:45:56wet the appetite of seeing her finally compete. She just shows up and just
- 1:46:00you know, puts a boot in somebody's face and maybe hits her finisher on
- 1:46:04somebody, and then that's all we get, you know, and then everybody
- 1:46:10from there, you know, just just whatever she did to is now just
- 1:46:13talking shit. Wow, She's just you know, she's still away and just
- 1:46:16like no, no, no, I'll deal with you when I'm ready to
- 1:46:19deal with you. I just want to give you a sample of you know,
- 1:46:21this as whooping that's coming your way when I finally decide to you know,
- 1:46:26show up. I could see them doing that. It's like a tease
- 1:46:29thing, right door. What do you think you want to put in anything
- 1:46:34here? Yeah? I hadn't even thought that that would be a great,
- 1:46:39great, great place to debut Jay Cargo. Uh you know, international event,
- 1:46:46you know, uh, more kind of eyeballs than usual, maybe that'd
- 1:46:51be a great idea. I don't know if they're gonna do it or not,
- 1:46:54but it's a pretty good idea. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
- 1:47:03ship hold on, let me wait. I got like, no, of
- 1:47:15course I'm gonna do it. I was laying back, relaxed in the chair
- 1:47:19and I was like, so far away from the soundboard. God damn it.
- 1:47:25Yeah, it beat me to a son of a bitch. So uh
- 1:47:30okay, we got one more match. You know what, though, Like
- 1:47:33in between this this match here, uh, I want to talk about returns,
- 1:47:42like this is a big show for them, Like if you guys,
- 1:47:45could, you know, think of some returns. Who are you thinking?
- 1:47:51I had one in mind, and that was Randy Orton. We haven't seen
- 1:47:59Randy Orton in a while out rumors have been going around that he was at
- 1:48:02the Performance Center, and you know, I see a lot of rumors about
- 1:48:06him coming back. What do you guys think about Warren? I think they're
- 1:48:12keeping him on standby in the event that John Cena gets called back to Hollywood.
- 1:48:19Yeah, if the writers strike, I mean, if the seren Actors
- 1:48:24Guild strike, Like say they're booking with the idea of John Cena participating in
- 1:48:29the War Games match, and then suddenly he has to leave because the the
- 1:48:35strike has ended and he has to go back to Hollywood. Boom, oh
- 1:48:40he's out. They write him off television. Damn, we gotta struggle to
- 1:48:43find somebody else. And her voice is in my head and fucking Randy Orton.
- 1:48:48I think that. I think that's where they're at with him right now,
- 1:48:50until they right now, he's on standby as the substitute for John Cena
- 1:48:56in a in a storyline should he get called back, and should they manage
- 1:49:01to should it not happen and they're able to play Sina's uh whatever role he's
- 1:49:06in now out all the way to the end that they have laid out,
- 1:49:11which I would assume would be through War Games at least, then they'll bring
- 1:49:15Brandy Orton back, maybe night after Survivor series surprise return or something like that,
- 1:49:20or they may hold off on it to the Rumble if they can,
- 1:49:24if they managed to be able to buy enough time. Dull. Yeah,
- 1:49:33I mean, he would certainly be. I mean they're saying any day now
- 1:49:38with him, but I feel like they've been saying that for months, so
- 1:49:42who the fuck knows what's true? And what isn't what I had been hearing
- 1:49:45was Survivors series. So for mister Orton, Uh, we'll see, we'll
- 1:49:55see. Well, theorectally they may write John Cena out of of other series
- 1:50:00even if this strike is still ongoing. That may be the plan the whole
- 1:50:05time. Is that te he's like seen is going to be in it just
- 1:50:09to write him out of it and insert Randy Orton. That may be the
- 1:50:13working plan as it is now. Sure, it could be completely completely independent
- 1:50:17of the strike. Could very well be My cat is trying to break into
- 1:50:25the office. I saw the door handle like jig ling. Yeah. I'm
- 1:50:30not scared though, because Halloween is over. If this was yesterday, oh
- 1:50:34my god, I would have been so scared. But it's November. First.
- 1:50:41You know why the you know why the cat wants to come in.
- 1:50:44Dad knows what we're about to talk about next. The cat is come to
- 1:50:48acknowledge her tribal chief. Yeah. Absolutely. I asked him, if you
- 1:50:54want to talk about the Roman Empire? You know? Yeah? Yeah,
- 1:51:01main event? Uh, you know Roman Rings with Paul Hayman, with Paul
- 1:51:08Hayman with his dark hair versus l A Night. You know what though,
- 1:51:20this whole build up for this match. The promos that were cut for this
- 1:51:26match were fucking great. The back and forth between these two, you know,
- 1:51:32they both make a lot of good points, you know, you know,
- 1:51:38Roman talking to him like, you know, this is your first title
- 1:51:42match, and he's taking him as a joke pretty much. Uh, they
- 1:51:50kind of they kind of give us the spoiler. I feel like with this
- 1:51:55Roman Reigns title run about we're gonna get Roman and Cody Rhode at WrestleMania,
- 1:52:02you know for the title. We kind of got that spoiler a whole year
- 1:52:05in advance. So I mean, if you if you wanted a place,
- 1:52:09say, if you could, you could, you know, call it Roman
- 1:52:14for every match. But damn, I'll be damned if I didn't say that.
- 1:52:19This one had me thinking that this could be in the realm of possibility
- 1:52:24of Verman Rains losing his actually losing his title and just ending one streak he
- 1:52:30has you know here. You know, but let's say there's some sort of
- 1:52:40interference, maybe we do get the Rock coming back, maybe doing a little
- 1:52:48you know, distracting, little interference getting involved somehow, you know, I
- 1:52:55you know, hear the rumors of the Rock in and Roman rains at but
- 1:53:00it doesn't have to be for the title. They can easily free up that
- 1:53:03title to somebody else who's hot right now. And you know, I see
- 1:53:09a lot of people on Twitter just just you know, and other social media
- 1:53:12discussing how Stale the Tribal Chief has been this year. You know, he's
- 1:53:17only had what one, I think one title defense this year too, But
- 1:53:26no, no, no, no, he said more than that he first
- 1:53:30j Yeah, since WrestleMania, he's only had one one and that was SummerSlam.
- 1:53:36But going into it, he had uh what Kevin Owen's at the Rumbles,
- 1:53:40Sammy Saying at Elimination Chamber, then Cody at WrestleMania, then nothing until
- 1:53:47as far as title defenses go, nothing until SummerSlam against JH. So you
- 1:53:55know, there's rumors that he's not going to be wrestling again until uh,
- 1:54:00you know, the rest of the year. Like you know, he's just
- 1:54:03done, like he's done for the year. Put him away into the rumble.
- 1:54:09I guess, which is that's just ridiculous. You know, that does
- 1:54:15just Doyle. If he holds onto this title to WrestleMania, what what what
- 1:54:23is he going to beat anybody else? I don't think so. I think
- 1:54:28he would have to surpass WrestleMania, past WrestleMania to start looking at Hogan's.
- 1:54:34I think Hogan is like fourteen hundred days or something in Roman Romans in the
- 1:54:40low eleven hundreds. I think, so, yeah, he would need to
- 1:54:45he would need to be about another year from now. Yeah, So yeah,
- 1:54:49I don't I think I want to say Roman, right, I didn't.
- 1:54:53I didn't write any of it down this week. I feel like Roman's
- 1:54:57fifth all time. I think it's I think it's Bruno. Bruno's second title
- 1:55:05reign might be in sight, that might be only thirteen hundred days or something.
- 1:55:10Let me try to google it real quick. I think it's like,
- 1:55:12I think it's what it's Bruno, that Bob Becklan, then Hogan and then
- 1:55:17yeah, and then I think Bruno's Bruno's second reign is fourth. I think,
- 1:55:25let's see, yeah, because like, if there's such a if he's
- 1:55:31not going to surpass anybody really between here and wrestling, if there's nobody else
- 1:55:36for him to surpass, then what's the harm of him losing it now?
- 1:55:44And then you know, I know this and then the other you know,
- 1:55:50looking after the half empty half fool. It's like, well, he's come
- 1:55:54this far, he might as well just hold it to resume and then lose
- 1:55:57it then to Cody. But okay, I got his fourth is fourth right
- 1:56:03now at eleven fifty nine. Yeah, bruno second one is third at twelve
- 1:56:10thirty seven, so he's actually not that far from that. Hogan's first run
- 1:56:15is fourteen seventy four, and then Bruno's first run is twenty eight oh three.
- 1:56:19Yeah, but hold that one. Oh that's that's skipping out of the
- 1:56:24Bob Backland rain. Bob Becklan had twenty one thirty five days. Oh Bruno,
- 1:56:31Yeah, I'll say, because for the list, I'm looking at Bruno's
- 1:56:34number one, then Bob number two, Hogan's at three, Bruno's second run
- 1:56:41is number four, twelve thirty seven, and then then it would be Roman,
- 1:56:45and then after Roman was Patro Morales. The math is all there,
- 1:56:53guys. I mean you're right then that list was missing back on your absolutely
- 1:57:00right. Yeah so yeah, so so so Roman is fourth. So like
- 1:57:06the in the modern day, you know the best right now that that that
- 1:57:14San Martino's second run is within sight. Yeah, he would he would definitely
- 1:57:18pass that if he held onto a WrestleMania, and I think that's probably not
- 1:57:25a bad position to slot him in at if you want to slot him in
- 1:57:29fourth all time, I don't. It would depend on how much they want
- 1:57:35him to surpass Hogan. Really, do they want him to eclipse Hogan or
- 1:57:41not. That's probably gonna determine everything. Damn it sucks because like l A
- 1:57:49Knight is so close, so close, and you know, if he takes
- 1:57:56that L like we discussed earlier, like him going for the United States title
- 1:58:01wouldn't be that much of an l Like it would be a good transition.
- 1:58:05Like you know, he was like this close and with said and said interference
- 1:58:11is the reason why he didn't get it, and you know he's able to
- 1:58:15possibly focus on the United States title make that title interesting. Wait you think
- 1:58:23you think Ella Knight is so close to what he's so close to to the
- 1:58:27to the you know, like he has uh so close to having the undisputed
- 1:58:31Universal title because I mean he's yeah, he though no, because he has
- 1:58:40the momentum. He has, the momentum is the crowd behind him. He's
- 1:58:45like one of the hottest superstars in the company right now. But like it
- 1:58:50just sucks that he gets so close, and you know, Romans just is
- 1:58:57just going to be another notch in and spell. And it's just like I
- 1:59:01hope that from here where he gets knocked down, it's just not too far.
- 1:59:05Like when he falls down and he grabs that limb, I hope that
- 1:59:10limb is in the United States title and he keeps him elevated because some guys
- 1:59:15after they lose to Roman, you know, they just keep going down.
- 1:59:20Let me ask you something. Have you ever had a contract signing? I
- 1:59:31got one more question? Have you ever had a championship match before? I
- 1:59:45didn't think so. So that means you got no clue what you're doing right
- 1:59:50now. But don't you worry, your tribal chief. I'm will go easy
- 1:59:59on you. We're gonna make it real nice for your first time. Don't
- 2:00:03worry. We're gonna go real gentle with you. All right, all right,
- 2:00:08sweetheart, m thank you gentlemen. That concludes my responsibilities this evening.
- 2:01:00I want to wish you both the very best of luck at Crown Jewel Hi
- 2:01:13Roman. As far as we're I'm looking, I'm the head of the table,
- 2:01:17so acknowledge me. You want to talk about my first contract signing.
- 2:01:33You want to talk about my first WWE Championship match, and you're right,
- 2:01:41isn't that crazy? And you also say you're gonna go gentle on me.
- 2:01:44My god, that's sweetie deal. And I hope you do because if right
- 2:01:47now you think that you're gonna underestimate this man because it's my first time around,
- 2:01:54my friend, you are already beat. And I'm gonna put it like
- 2:02:00this is this my first time? Hell yeah it is. So I'm sitting
- 2:02:03here and I'm just thinking to myself, after only a single year, I'm
- 2:02:10sitting at the head of this table about to take your title, and I
- 2:02:19climb so fast you don't even know what hits you. Remember the time we
- 2:02:25get to crown Jule, you're gonna be thinking to yourself, what the hell
- 2:02:29just happened? He just walked out with my WWW championship. But see,
- 2:02:39you don't understand. Yeah, this is my first time, but I only
- 2:02:43need one time because while you failed over and over again, while you were
- 2:02:49busy doing suffering suck atash, I've been out here, run one telling everybody
- 2:03:00Pru's game. This is not yet because there can be only one w W
- 2:03:11champion. Yeah, there can only be one me. Yeah, and that's
- 2:03:15what. It's coming up real soon and there's nothing you can do about it.
- 2:03:21And that's not an insult that it's just a fact of life. I
- 2:03:31can't stop this gravy train. I can't stop the undeniable Kaboka, and I
- 2:03:38can't stop being the man they call the megastar with everybody's saying, Oh,
- 2:03:49also, I'm just gonna pinch this in another guy I thought it would be
- 2:03:54a good return. Besides Randy Orton, be Aj Styles A Styles has a
- 2:04:00been on TV in a while. Another guy that there I feel like that
- 2:04:02they haven't done a lot with recently, that they're just wasting contract with.
- 2:04:11But that that's a whole other story. Yeah, he ain't done nothing a
- 2:04:15while, and that's because Aj ain't moving no needle, Yeah I know,
- 2:04:20but yeah, he was another guy I thought of who hasn't been around in
- 2:04:26a while. It's still in the roster. But yeah, I mean,
- 2:04:32it seems like you guys kind of have different opinions on this. I want
- 2:04:34to hear it. Dre, what's your opinion on this? L A.
- 2:04:40Knight, Roman rains match like a guy who's like Roman said hasn't had a
- 2:04:45World Heavyweight title match before, I mean a ww title match before. Yeah.
- 2:04:49So I look at this La Night Roman Reigns thing and I think to
- 2:04:54myself, I've seen this before, and I have to go way back into
- 2:05:00the archives of my wrestling fandom to think of a moment that this reminds me
- 2:05:06of. Not apples to apples, but very much similar. And for this
- 2:05:14we got to slide all the way back to the eighties where there was a
- 2:05:19in a wrestling company. There was a guy who was the dominant champion and
- 2:05:24he was challenged by the hottest babyface in the company at the moment, who
- 2:05:29was the up and comer and had all the fans behind him, had all
- 2:05:33the momentum behind him, and he got his moment in his first ever title
- 2:05:40shot, and it was for all the marbles, it was for the big
- 2:05:43one. It was at that time. It was a sixty minute iron man
- 2:05:45match, and that babyface came up short, but even in losing, he
- 2:05:50solidified himself as a legitimate title contender, and it pretty much him already even
- 2:06:01more so than he already was, as one of the top babyfaces in that
- 2:06:05company. And that moment was at the very first ever clash of the champions
- 2:06:12when Sting challenged Rick Flair for the World heavyweight title. That is what this
- 2:06:17moment kind of reminds me of. Granted, l A. Knight is not
- 2:06:21the young up and comer, but within the storyline standpoint, he is that
- 2:06:29new hotness. He is that new top babyface that all the fans are behind
- 2:06:33and loving. And Roman Reigns ain't much older than you know l A.
- 2:06:41Knight in terms of real world years, if he ain't arguably younger. I
- 2:06:44don't know what their ages are, but they're not that far off in age.
- 2:06:47But in the storyline standpoint, Roman Range is very much the established champion,
- 2:06:56very much in a sense, the veteran in this storyline. So here
- 2:07:00comes the young lion challenging the old vet, seemingly having all the momentum behind
- 2:07:08him, all the fans behind him, and he's gonna get put in his
- 2:07:11place, like like our tribal chief said he was going to do. And
- 2:07:15that's what's gonna happen. But La Knight will have a damn good showing,
- 2:07:19he'll look great at it. Broman will make him look like look like a
- 2:07:24legitimate contender. But he's gonna come up short. And then after this he
- 2:07:28will still have the backing of the fans, and he'll set his sights a
- 2:07:32little bit lower like he should, because your arm's too short to box with
- 2:07:36God. So he don't move on to the west. Final situation, I'm
- 2:07:44gonna cut you off right there. All week, all the past couple of
- 2:07:47weeks, all I've been hearing is these seem punk references in people's promos,
- 2:07:51and I'll see what you fucking just did right there, this guy. Yeah,
- 2:07:58yeah, seem punk stole them from somebody else that that they ain't to
- 2:08:01see him funk original. But that's still that's why I thought of he nope,
- 2:08:05that that was a rap. That was a bar in a rap song.
- 2:08:07I can't think of it off the top of my head, but uh,
- 2:08:11that's where seeing punk got that from. But yeah, that's where I'm
- 2:08:15seeing this. And like I said, the whole time i've been watching this,
- 2:08:18it's just took me back to staying challenging Rick Flair back in the day
- 2:08:22at the first Class to the Champions and I see the parallels in this few
- 2:08:28that's happening right now. So I think it's gonna play out just like that,
- 2:08:35Doyle, what are you thinking of? Our opinion is? What do
- 2:08:39you? Where do you stand? Look? I like l A. Knight
- 2:08:45as much as the next gut well maybe not as much as Wayne. Uh,
- 2:08:52you know what, I wanted to continue to be pushed. But you
- 2:08:56know, after all this time and effort and building up, you know,
- 2:09:01know this Roman reigns title reign and storyline, you know, for it to
- 2:09:05end so abruptly at this pay review to this Guynna not gonna happen? Uh?
- 2:09:15Yeah, I think you know. Roman's gonna toy with him first,
- 2:09:16beat him down a little bit. Ellien Knight's gonna make the comeback. He'll
- 2:09:22be about to win until Jimmy interferes and costs him the match, and you
- 2:09:28know, we get home for something a little more exciting than that. But
- 2:09:31I think that's pretty much what we're looking at here. Uh. The real
- 2:09:33story I think, or question to be answered, Uh, is Ellen Knight
- 2:09:39ready for prime time? Right? Like hen he hang in the ring,
- 2:09:43you know, on a relatively big stage with Roman reigns or in this case,
- 2:09:48but you know, more abstractly, with a Seth with a Finn with
- 2:09:52an AJ you know, so this match in My estimation is kind of more
- 2:09:58about what el can and can't do rather than what the outcome is going to
- 2:10:03be, you know, almost like an audition if you will, you know,
- 2:10:09because I think it's a foregone conclusion that Roman Reigns is gonna win.
- 2:10:13Roman Reigns is a minus three thousand, by the way, if you if
- 2:10:18you want to put a little money on them, it will be interesting,
- 2:10:22I think to see if Eliy Knights uh overness translates to these foreign markets coming
- 2:10:31up, like are they gonna be as into them as we are or the
- 2:10:35American audiences. I think that'll be an interesting question to see answered as we
- 2:10:41go along here. But yeah, I mean Roman's gonna win, and I
- 2:10:45think I think that's silly to suggest otherwise. Oh yeah, it's again.
- 2:10:56We we all know where this is going. Roman is not dropping the title
- 2:11:01anytime before probably wrestle media. Now granted, if somehow Hunter got a a
- 2:11:11you know, rabbit hair up his ass and decided to shock the world and
- 2:11:16put this thing on, put this title on l A. Knight, oh
- 2:11:20yeah, they would steal all of the headlines. That ship would probably be
- 2:11:26ESPN, Fox Sports, everybody would that sho would be on the cover of
- 2:11:31every magazine sports you know, column like a mug. But there still will
- 2:11:39be uh in six months when Cody does it. Sure, yeah right,
- 2:11:46and it will be also yeah, when Cody does it at Wrestle Media,
- 2:11:48and it'll just happen. I just care that building this and building this and
- 2:11:52building this and building this for this to be the outcome, you know,
- 2:11:56exactly, no offense l a Night exactly. You're right on that, Like
- 2:12:03they ain't done all this, so fucking have l A Night come out of
- 2:12:07nowhere and be the one to steal it. If he had the title for
- 2:12:11nine months, okay maybe sure, maybe never, you know, but and
- 2:12:18I you know, in the grand scheme of things, I think something like
- 2:12:22that would be fucking awesome, you know, like uh uh, some you
- 2:12:26know, just out of fucking nowhere kind of thing, you know, or
- 2:12:31a title change of some kind. You know. I feel like we I
- 2:12:35feel like so much of the suspense is ruined, you know, like because
- 2:12:41we know Drew's contract is coming up, or you know, or or we
- 2:12:45know, uh, you know they're having a thing in Germany, so Gunter's
- 2:12:50probably or whatever. You know, Uh, you know, the element of
- 2:12:54surprise is so, I mean, it's not the end all be all.
- 2:12:58I don't think. I don't think it's as important as other things. You
- 2:13:03know, knowing where you're going they're getting there is have the fun sometimes,
- 2:13:09but like every now and then they need to be like, uh, I
- 2:13:16think that's might be what they were trying to do with the tag belts a
- 2:13:18couple of weeks ago, but like just like, holy fuck, kinda kind
- 2:13:24of moment, you know, yeah, don't do it too often, but
- 2:13:28every now and then, But at this ain't it ain't the time to do
- 2:13:31it exactly. Yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing it some other time somewhere along
- 2:13:37the line, you know, Yeah, yeah, I agree with you on
- 2:13:41a percent. Every now and then you got to hit the fans with that
- 2:13:45proverbial any given Sunday moment, like you said they did with the tag titles
- 2:13:48because nobody saw that shit coming. But yeah, it ain't l a night.
- 2:13:54As much as it would steal all the headlines and shock the world,
- 2:13:56it'll also kind of do the same thing when it happens at WrestleMania, with
- 2:14:01the added benefit of it being WrestleMania, so everybody's paying attention to it.
- 2:14:05Yeah, and you know, down goes Roman, so they would still happen
- 2:14:09then, but you know, unless they really got an even bigger hair up.
- 2:14:13They asked and had thought about this in advance and made the Cody Damien
- 2:14:18match for the money in the bank beefcase, and then Cody won it,
- 2:14:22and then l A. Knight shocks the world and beats fucking Roman Range for
- 2:14:24the title, and then Cody Rage goes in a fucking rage. I'm Cody
- 2:14:28Rage spoiled myself. Cody Rose has a fucking rage album moment, comes out
- 2:14:31there, catches it in, beats the living dog shit out of fucking l
- 2:14:35A. Knight, takets the title, and now we've got heal Cody.
- 2:14:37But you know they don't think on that level like I do. But that's
- 2:14:46said a man with that multiverse theory. You know, that's funny shit.
- 2:14:52Just Cody just gets pissed. The ship comes out there with the prekis like,
- 2:14:56oh hell no, beast, the living dogs the fucking Cody out of
- 2:15:01l A. Knight with the briefcase, and then l A. Knight could
- 2:15:05win it, and then Damion Priest cat cashes in on l A. Knight.
- 2:15:11Yeah, but that's not as funny as Cody having a whole temper tantrument
- 2:15:13beating living fun out of La Night with the briefcase and then taking the title
- 2:15:16of walking up like my goddamn belt bitchy right there, you How dare you
- 2:15:22finish my story for me? It won't be funny at all. God damn,
- 2:15:26it'd be terrible. I laughed my ship, I'd have tears running down
- 2:15:33my face. I'd be laughing so hard. So just watching Cody just wail
- 2:15:37on fucking l a night with that briefcase, just throw it a whole fucking
- 2:15:43bit Yoh god, he's turning ill, Cody, what are you doing?
- 2:15:48Stufp Oh my god, oh god, beat us so bad to fucking handle
- 2:15:58breaks off of that ship. He just picks up. What's just keeps beating
- 2:16:01them? Oh man? Well, do you guys have anything else you want
- 2:16:07to chit chat about with this pay per view before we sign off here?
- 2:16:15I feel like somewhere in this show because we got eight matches, Yes,
- 2:16:22eight matches, but three hours, so one hundred and eighty minutes. I
- 2:16:28guess that's enough to fill out the show without any padding from like some random
- 2:16:35segment or something like that because I was wondering, are they going to try
- 2:16:37to fill this in with some random segment? Are we going to get a
- 2:16:41surprise Grayson Waller effect or Miss TV moment or some bullshit like that. But
- 2:16:45nah, I don't think we'll get that much because I think eight matches eight.
- 2:16:48I think you can easily fill out three hours with eight matches. Well
- 2:16:54I say that, no, not eight seven matches because I forgot one pre
- 2:16:56show, so seven matches. There's a difference and bringing the Miss TV set
- 2:17:01from Milwaukee to Chicago and bringing it into Saudi Arabia also, yeah, especially
- 2:17:09get the thing like they're not trying to spend money on bullshit just to bring
- 2:17:13you know, a couple of chairs over whatever, do you know what I
- 2:17:18mean? Yeah? Yeah, I about say I would think the Miss TV
- 2:17:20set would be more easy to transport than Grayson Waller because it's the first thing
- 2:17:24that popped into my mind. Yeah, yeah, reason, Well, you
- 2:17:28got to bring all those stupid fucking palm trees, and he's got a whole
- 2:17:31desk and ship. Well they have real palm trees there. Maybe they can
- 2:17:35just hear themselves. You're right, These mis are just like two director's chairs
- 2:17:39at a fucking coffee table. How about the miss by the way with that?
- 2:17:43Uh, I guess he's a face again. Oh yeah, I'm here
- 2:17:48like, oh yeah, I guess we're transitioned into current of instan Yeah yeah,
- 2:17:52yeah, that's uh, that's pretty tasty. I'm here for it.
- 2:17:56Yeah. And that's just I mean, I feel like I say it every
- 2:17:58episode, But he's so fucking good. He was he was such a piece
- 2:18:01of shit heel and just flip a switch, you know what I mean.
- 2:18:05Like, he's really good. He's really fuck good. I don't know if
- 2:18:09he's gonna be gone through, but he's really fucking good. Yeah. And
- 2:18:13I think and he's finally at that point in his career where he's got that
- 2:18:18og veteran status to where fans can start to genuinely appreciate what he's done in
- 2:18:26this business throughout his career, and a face turn for him would be the
- 2:18:31perfect vehicle to do that with to where he can take all this talent he's
- 2:18:37been flexing his heels as a heel and put it towards being a baby face.
- 2:18:41You could you could really get something special out of that, Like that
- 2:18:45could truly be special and elevate Miss to heist that he may have never even
- 2:18:50seen before. I would not. I don't think it's too much of a
- 2:18:54stretch to say that a babyface Miss could potentially get over just as much or
- 2:19:03arguably more so than L. A. Knight is currently Right now, I
- 2:19:07think Miss is that good, has that kind of potential as a face.
- 2:19:13Yeah. Man, he's he's just he can do it all. He's uh,
- 2:19:18you know, he's an asset to any company he works for. Obviously
- 2:19:20he's only ever worked for for the E, but I mean ship, He's
- 2:19:26the kind of guy you love to have on your roster. He can do
- 2:19:28it anything anything. Oh yeah, I could see it because man, when
- 2:19:33he started to he started mouthing off the Gunter, I was like, talk
- 2:19:37your ship, Miss, talk yo ship. Oh I'm I'm here for it.
- 2:19:43I'm almost certain that he's gonna win the four Waight Number one Contenders next
- 2:19:48Monday, which is gonna set up him in a Gunter feud. And like
- 2:19:52you said, I agree, he's probably gonna come up short this time around.
- 2:19:56But what if he is the one to end Gunter's ring, Because I
- 2:20:00mean, there ain't really much else for guns to do. Is champ,
- 2:20:03you know, other than just add the numbers. Yeah, and you know
- 2:20:07we've talked about that spot has to be jumping off point for somebody, right,
- 2:20:13But I just I don't see any young up and cover that's even close
- 2:20:16to being able to pull that off, right, Yeah, it's somebody like
- 2:20:22miss It could damn s be a catapult for him as a babyface and watching
- 2:20:26him back into eventually into the world title picture. Yeah. Maybe, and
- 2:20:33say maybe not by maybe not by WrestleMania next year, but maybe by next
- 2:20:37year SummerSlam. Yeah. You know, if if say he fails at let's
- 2:20:43say that he wins that and that sets up him versus going through a Survivor
- 2:20:46series, he comes up short, has a great match, then he just
- 2:20:50you know, continues on as a babyface, builds a more momentum, earns
- 2:20:54a rematch at the Rumble, and then he wins at the Rumble, and
- 2:20:58then he's the Intercontinental champion going into WrestleMania, defends it against somebody, has
- 2:21:05another great match, has him another good run, baby drops it around Money
- 2:21:11in the Bank time. Maybe he misses mister Money in the Bank twenty twenty
- 2:21:15four. Yeah, oh shit, not again. Not miss the money in
- 2:21:22the bank, miss her money in the bank. Yeah, yeah, it's
- 2:21:28Cornia, It's cheesy, but fuck it, I can see him. I
- 2:21:35can see him running with it. And if I could see Miss making it
- 2:21:37work, missed her money in the bank, and then he cashing that motherfucker.
- 2:21:43Like so I'm slamming something. I'm just saying the road map is there.
- 2:21:48You're not wrong. True, it won't be hard to put it won't
- 2:21:52be that hard to make Miz to take miss very very seriously. Yeah,
- 2:21:58by that point, Roman would likely no longer would hopefully no longer be ww
- 2:22:03champions, so that title can is free to be moved around. By that
- 2:22:05point, almost certainly, I imagine Seth would no longer be champion. Might
- 2:22:09be my be gunter's world champion by that point, or maybe somebody else's world
- 2:22:15champion, and fucking his cash is in m Either way, I'm here for
- 2:22:22it. Yeah, Doyle, do you have anything more to plug? Yes,
- 2:22:30I have a whole litany of things. Oh my god, hear it.
- 2:22:35Besides the discord where you can find me, we have a Facebook page
- 2:22:41now the Facebook for the five more minutes or so that that's relevant. You
- 2:22:48can find us on Facebook there's not much up there yet, but we're working
- 2:22:52on it. I'm also going to be doing Carlos this podcast again. We
- 2:22:56went to call them revisiting the doing the WrestleMania thirteen on Sunday. I think
- 2:23:05he likes to do him live and then the tape of that will be available,
- 2:23:09I guess the next day. But yeah, we're doing that Sunday,
- 2:23:13so you can see me there too. I want to give a shout out
- 2:23:18to my fellow New England is up in Lewiston, Maine. I used to
- 2:23:20go to summer camp up in Lewiston when I was a kid, so I
- 2:23:24had kind of, you know, kind of a connection to the community there
- 2:23:28though, So stay strong up there, guys. And and an rip to
- 2:23:33my aunt aunt in quotation marks because she wasn't really my aunt, Kathleen Cookie
- 2:23:41Vaughan, just one of the classiest ladies you could ever meet, super nice,
- 2:23:46true South Philly legend. And she will be missed, all right,
- 2:23:52man. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, Jrey, what do you want a
- 2:24:00plug? I have nothing to plug at this moment, nothing, nothing at
- 2:24:07this moment. As always, you can find me in the Discord Mondays,
- 2:24:11Fridays and now even occasionally on Tuesdays sharing my thoughts on Raw SmackDown, and
- 2:24:18I'm branching out even at the XT a little bit, sharing thoughts on that
- 2:24:22tuning into their show Halloween. I have it last night. Was wasn't it
- 2:24:26wasn't too bad, wasn't too bad? It was? It was okay,
- 2:24:28it was it was okay. The Mellow Hayes match finished ninety one. Yeah,
- 2:24:33I'm saying Mellow Carmelo Hayes dragging off part three was I have thoughts about
- 2:24:41that match. It was. It wasn't a bad match by any means,
- 2:24:43but I still think their first encounter was the best out of that trilogy.
- 2:24:48But again, you can find those thoughts in the discord, so you can
- 2:24:52always find me there. Other than that, I said, nothing else really
- 2:24:56too plug at this moment. Yeah, and you can find me just about
- 2:25:01anywhere as semi dried Chicken, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, Discord. Yeah.
- 2:25:13Like I said, you know, hopefully within the next episode, our
- 2:25:18T shirt design will be out and I'll pro wrestling tease, uh, and
- 2:25:22then I'll let everybody know about that we can get some gear out there before
- 2:25:26WrestleMania, because there's a lot of us who listen, go to a lot
- 2:25:31of those wrestling events, and it'd be cool to have some PCW swag,
- 2:25:39some some clothing for the peeps. So yeah, I guess. With that
- 2:25:45said, we'll see you guys after this show, and hopefully it's not a
- 2:25:50shit show. So let me play us out there, fellas your friend and
- 2:26:00this is a friendship that will never ever end. And his name is Josh.
- 2:26:13Excuse me, what I want can't be what I want, which screw
- 2:26:26It's dam true. It doesn't matter what's your name. Oh yeah, let's
- 2:26:46scree you again. I'm going home by a great time.