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G. Edward Griffin on the Rothschilds, CBDC & the New World Order (& How to Stop It) · Man in America Podcast

• 1:34
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Houlhouse. So you obviously are watching and listening to this show. You know that one of the great missions that I have is to try to expose the communist satanic overthrow of not just our country, but also our world. And that's mission very dear to my heart.
• 1:57
  And joining us today is someone that has been doing this same thing for decades and decades and decades. And I think who has been one of the most important voices in exposing this threat that our whole world is facing right now, and that's G. Edward Griffin. And perhaps you know about him because he wrote the famous book, The Creature from Jekyll Island, which explains the Federal Reserve and the global banking cartel. But he's also the person that did the famous interview with Yuri Besmanov, the KGB defector that came to America back, I think it was in the eighties, and warned us about the the looming threat of communism in our country.
• 2:39
  And while people would have laughed at that ten, fifteen, twenty years ago, I'd say that today, especially if you're watching this show, it's undeniable that there is a very, very dangerous threat of communism taking complete control in our country. And so we're going to be diving into a lot of the critical topics surrounding this and where he sees our country is at in this communist overthrow, what we can do about that. But also, going spend a good amount of time talking about central bank digital currency and the central bankers, and what that means for our freedom and the threats that it is making to our freedoms in our way of life. So folks, just enjoy this interview. This is honestly, this is probably one of the favorite interviews that I've I've done.
• 3:24
  He's just this is he's an incredible man. So, enjoy this. And if you take a lot away from it, then share it, share it with your friends and your family, because this is going to be an important discussion that I hope people can see. Thank you. Mr.
• 3:39
  Griffin, I have to say it is an honor to have you on as a guest today. I really appreciate you making the time to come on the show.
• 3:47
  Speaker 2: Well, it's my pleasure to be here. Thanks for inviting me.
• 3:49
  Seth Holehouse: Absolutely. You know, I first discovered you, I think, through your book, creature from Jekyll Island, and then later realized that the infamous interview with Yuri Besmanov was was your work as well, which I've been referencing referencing for quite some time. So I just want to thank you. I know that you've spent the large part of your life trying to warn people about the threat of communism in America. And I think that now it's undeniable, but I think a lot of the reason people can see it now is because of the foundation and the work that you've laid.
• 4:23
  So I really just want to thank you for what you've done.
• 4:26
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you for that. I appreciate that. It's been a kind of a lonely battle at times when nobody seemed to be interested in their own doom like it doesn't really exist. But, yeah, thank you. The time has come now to take action.
• 4:42
  Seth Holehouse: And so I I know that even looking back when you interviewed Yuri Besmanov and he was talking about at that time, which was decades ago, that they were already, I mean, almost in the final stages of their plan of the infiltration and the overthrow of America. When you look at what's happening right now in our country, which, I mean, is it's really out in the open, How does that make you feel seeing what you've been warning about that's actually coming to pass now here in our country? Folks, have a quick message for you. Not sure if you knew, but we're actually giving away five ounces of free silver every week. So we're giving away five silver rounds of Buffalo rounds of pure silver, just as a thank you to the Man in America audience.
• 5:30
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• 5:52
  Speaker 2: Well, I suppose the honest answer to that is that had I not been aware of this for so long, and in a way perhaps became used to it, like it's the status quo, I otherwise would be in great panic because we're at the very tippy end of the process where we would have any realistic chance of reversing the direction. We're not there yet, but we keep getting closer and closer and closer, as they say, And the time is very, very near at hand. So I'm very bad at predicting dates and times. I'm always perhaps a little more pessimistic on that side than I should be because it's always amazing to me how we continue to to run along. I mean, the the airplane has been out of gasoline or diesel for a long time.
• 6:42
  Why is it still flying? You know? And that sort of thing. But the fact that when you're out of out of diesel and the gas tank is empty, you are going to come down. And there's a question of not if, but when is the only question.
• 6:59
  So, yeah, it's otherwise I would be in panic mode, but I guess I'm so used to it. It's like, well, I've been telling you this. What do you expect? You know? So, I don't take any any satisfaction from I told you so.
• 7:14
  In fact, I'm very, very dissatisfied with having to say that. But anyway, that's my reaction is that I'm used to it.
• 7:24
  Seth Holehouse: Which is it's kind of an unfortunate.
• 7:28
  Speaker 2: Unfortunate, yes.
• 7:29
  Seth Holehouse: Know, this is where it's at. I know that you've got a very firm understanding of communism and how it works and how coups and overthrows work and how communism, like a parasite, can take over a healthy host, a healthy country, and just destroy it and lead it to just pure death and destruction, and the stages and the plans. And looking at where America is at right now, where would you say we are in terms of the stage? Like, what would you see as if this communist goal overthrowing America was completely just to move forward as planned? What would be the next few steps?
• 8:09
  And what would be their endgame for the great nation of America?
• 8:16
  Speaker 2: Well, I think Yuri Besmudnoff pretty well described it. This the endgame is that final stage, which is, I think, is called normalization. Very deceptive choice of words because it would be very unnormal for everybody living in it. But the normalization final phase is when the velvet glove comes off of the male fist, the tanks are in the street, and the and the goons are at your door breaking your door down and saying into the truck, and people are getting shot in the streets. And that's normalization.
• 8:53
  That's the next stage. Unfortunately, I have to say it. And they're ready for it. They've been stocking up on, I guess, people people may have not noticed it or realized the significance of it, but all the little agencies of the federal government that normally would not need guns, For example, the IRS. The IRS is but you think they'd be a bunch of accountants.
• 9:16
  And if they had to deal with somebody physically, would the IRS wouldn't handle it. It'd be some other agency. But, no, the member of the IRS agents now are all armed and they've got how many millions of rounds of ammunition and so forth. And all of the many of the federal agencies, even some of the state agencies are getting militarized in that sense. And when you look back and you understand the blueprint, oh, yeah, well, this is the final stage.
• 9:44
  This is if you're going to quell the opposition by force, you better have weapons for force. So that's the next phase. You asked, I wish you hadn't asked because it's a very dim picture.
• 9:58
  Seth Holehouse: It is, but I also think it's important because I think that one of the things that's allowed this everything to get to where it is right now in America is that I think a lot of Americans haven't wanted to look at the grim picture. They've only wanted to live in a way that America would never be brought down. I mean, even previously I've brought guests on and I've talked about, you know, that China and Russia, for example, could potentially invade America. Even people that are very awake to what's going on say China would never attempt an attack on America. We've got all these guns and they would never.
• 10:35
  It's like there's a normalcy bias, and I think that that that normalcy bias in conjunction with, I think, being good natured overall, not wanting to see the evil in the world, have made us a prime target. And it's been very easy for them to subvert and remove their troops in and to have their fifth column assembling without us even knowing it.
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: It would be very easy. And there's a little bit of a deception in that picture. It's a deception deliberately planted out there to get us off the track because we we tend to think, oh, those those bad people in Russia, those bad Chinese, they're going to invade us. That's the problem. It's the Chinese and the Russians.
• 11:22
  No. That that would never there would never be a situation like that unless the deep state and this side of our side, our own leaders have set that up. They know that American soldiers would never or would be very difficult for a lot of American soldiers to participate in the mass murder of American citizens. And so they would need Chinese and Russian soldiers or somebody from other parts of the world that wouldn't have this affinity to their own countrymen. So it's not those bad Russians and those bad Chinese.
• 11:55
  They're they're being used also. And there's this a central con command center that's above national borders. And this is the part that is very, very tempting to overlook when you think in terms of those bad people over there. That's one of the reasons I think we get so much bad news about the Chinese are doing this. The Wuhan Laboratory there.
• 12:18
  They created the virus. Or they did what virus? You know, we we forget that there may not even be a virus if we get focused on who created it. So it's all kind of a propaganda program, how to control our thinking. So that's another part of the battle and perhaps the most important part because if it hadn't been for this kind of confusion and diffusion of logical thought on the part of the American people, we might have been able to figure out how to stop it by now.
• 12:48
  As long as we're thinking that those Russians and those Chinese and those other people, it's not us. That's our government. We have to stand behind our government, you know, because we're fighting these foreign enemies. Well, we lose. That's just as simple as that.
• 13:04
  And Yuri talked a lot about that. Maybe not so much in the recording that we did, but we did have off off camera conversations about that sort of thing. And he didn't know it himself actually until he got over here, by the way. This is an interesting side story. Yuri Besminov was a defector, as most of your listeners know, who was a KGB agent, born into the ruling class in Russia because his father was a Soviet general.
• 13:34
  And so the family had everything. They may not have owned the property in terms of the legal sense, but they had access to everything they wanted. They had food, shelter, clothing, a nice home. They had drivers. They lived like, you know, like very, very wealthy people in America.
• 13:50
  Even though they didn't technically own anything, they could they could access it, and that's the test of ownership. And he had everything he could possibly want, privilege, protection. If he had if he had done something that would be considered a crime, he probably wouldn't have been punished for it because he was in the right class. And that's something that people need to understand when they talk about communism and socialism as being the leveling kind of a concept where everybody is the same. No.
• 14:16
  Everybody's not the same under collectivism, any form of it, communism and socialism. There's a very a very severe caste structure in those societies. So we have to understand that here this guy came from privilege and then he he defected a great risk to his life because defectors back in those days, if they were caught, and many of them were because the KGB doesn't like their agents to defect, and they run them down anywhere in the world if they can find them, and they'll kill them. And sometimes they'll kill them in a very unpleasant manner. It's torture.
• 14:51
  And they make it visible so that the other agents can witness that. Recalled one occasion where they took this poor chap and put him into an incinerator where they cremate bodies, dead people, and he was put in there alive. And the agents had to stand around and look in the little window and watch while he was burned to death and so forth. Things like this. So, Yuri went against that.
• 15:14
  He defected. And it had had had they caught him that something like that would have happened to him. So, when he came to America, he thought he would be welcomed by the, CIA and welcomed by the FBI. And he was brokenhearted and confused, staggeringly confused. Why don't they want to hear what I'm saying?
• 15:37
  Why don't they want my information? They don't wanna talk to me. And then he came to the rude awakening that Americans still have not come to that awakening is that there are people in controls of our own government who do not want to solve this problem. They want the problem. It is their problem.
• 15:56
  They they want it because their their goal, their vision is not just the dominance of Russia or the dominance of China. It's the dominance of this world concept. They are globalists. Just like the people in our own government are globalists. They couldn't give a damn about The United States.
• 16:18
  It's the global picture that they have in mind, and they're prepared to use The United States as a playing piece on the chessboard to achieve that goal. And it it's like a pawn or a or a knight or something. It can be sacrificed if necessary to win the game and to do a check on the king. So that's the part that that Yuri had to learn, and he was brokenhearted when he realized that there was something bigger than just Russia versus America or China versus America. And it's something we have to understand when we're thinking in terms of what lies ahead.
• 16:57
  If they're going to use Russia or China as the bad guys for the bad things that they want to do to the American people, they'll make it look like it was those people from over there that did it. And the ones who remain in America will never dream of questioning that it was people in their own government that were doing this and not those guys. It's a very important very important issue, which very few people talk about because they don't understand it.
• 17:26
  Seth Holehouse: Alright, folks. I have a quick message for you. So you'll see in this discussion that we really go heavy into the central bank digital currency. And this is something I've been shouting from the rooftops and warning everyone about, because this I really, I do believe is the single greatest threat to our freedom. And while we don't know the exact methodology of how they will roll it out, what I do know is that the more of our assets that aren't in the systems that they can control, such as bank accounts, stock market, etc, these assets where they can just flip a switch and convert that into their digital currency, and you wake up one day and it's you go to log into your bank account, you go to your local ATM, they say, Oh, your money has been converted into a digital central bank digital currency.
• 18:08
  When your our money is sitting in those systems, it's vulnerable to that happening. And as you you hear him speaking about, that is exactly how they can control us to the nth degree is through the Central Bank Digital Currency. And so while I've, you know, a big proponent for moving our assets into various things such as land or food or ammunition, one of the things that I highly, highly recommend is precious metals. In my view, precious metals are one of the ways that look, it's not going to be the end all, it's not going to save us from everything. But one thing it can do is it will allow us to move our assets into something that's gonna way harder for them to control.
• 18:46
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• 19:15
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• 19:45
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• 20:17
  I found that this exact kind of conversation is one of the hardest things that I've been able to understand because, know, there's all these questions I have, and it's okay, is it the I'm very aware of the just the depth of corruption within our own government and within our government in the corporatocracies and the, you know, they interviewed John Perkins and the hitman program that they've done to take control in the American empire, but in the military industrial complex and the supposed war against the they've always been different wars that have always benefited the, you know, the the deep state. But then you look at you know, I've studied the Chinese Communist Party for quite some time and communism in general. And, you know, look at and think, okay, well, is it if you look at the infiltration of the Soviets and the Chinese into our government, and is it so is it like our government is acting bad because in part, some of these people in our government are communist agents, right, you know, kind of acting and doing this, or is it that they're the evil ones and or is it that really that there's actually very evil bad people in all these different countries that are collectively working to create this new world order?
• 21:31
  You know what mean? Yeah. And that that's usually what I I end up coming to.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Mhmm. Yeah. It's not these bad people wouldn't be in our government if we had good people in our government who would stop it. But they deliberately have eliminated all of the of the anti subversion laws that we used to have on the books that would prevent it. They just calculatedly removed them from the books one by one by one by one.
• 21:56
  This was done decades ago. We used to have the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee, the Congressional Congressional Committee on Un American Activities, and, you know, these were very active organizations. Well, they've all been silenced. All the laws that authorized them have been removed. All of the anti subversive agencies in the states have been removed.
• 22:17
  Even the city government used to have some agencies like that. They've been removed. So all of the roadblocks for that sort of thing have been deliberately removed by people on our side. It's like, come on, boys. Come on.
• 22:31
  This is the game. Come in. We're all brothers under the skin. You know? So we have to play a little game.
• 22:37
  We have to go into the ring and and this phony wrestling match, and we have to make it look like we're really angry at each other, but afterwards we'll go out and have a beer in the bar and say that was a good a good fight we had tonight.
• 22:49
  Seth Holehouse: It's it's
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: almost the way the world runs today.
• 22:52
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. It's almost the equivalent of of Joe Biden keeping the border open and allowing all these military aged, you know, Chinese and, and, you know, foreigners coming into our country. It's like, Where's the women and children? They look like mostly people that if a switch was flicked and all of a sudden they had to activate and knew where the weapons caches were, that we'd have a standing army in our country already without even realizing that they were all around us.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And that was invited in. We we didn't they didn't fool us. These people in Washington knew it was happening, and they wanted it to happen because they wanted to destroy everything that would make America strong and independent because only out of the ashes can they build their one world globalist collectivist society. Gotta destroy everything first, and then we remold it to our heart's desire.
• 23:42
  Yes. That's how they think.
• 23:44
  Seth Holehouse: And so it is fascinating, though, to ask you these these types of questions because as you you trace this back, I think everyone wants to look for, okay, well, who's the figurehead, right? Who's, who's the person calling the shots? I think it's not as simple as there's one person in some dark lair with, you know, the hooded people around them, they're saying, okay, here's the next move. But in your research, as you've traced up this power structure of who's orchestrating this, you know, really this this global campaign to destroy the nation states and destroy America and to have immigrants, you know, destroy borders across around the world, who who do you trace it up to as the people that are calling a lot of these shots?
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Well, I I've given a lot of thought, of course, to that. And my answer may surprise you, and that is that I've almost given up worrying about it. It but it is important. I haven't given up worrying about it, but I've given up wasting a lot of time on it because I have come to the realization that the ones that we know about for the most part are really not the ones making the big decisions. What we can say is that somewhere in that big pot full of of international banking where the where the money is created, somewhere in that group, you'll find the ones making the decision.
• 25:14
  They're they're gonna be there, but that's a big group. Which ones? Well, the, you know, the logical candidates are the ones that are we hear about, like the Rockefellers and Rothschilds and so forth. And then that's probably accurate. But there are others that we don't hear so much about that maybe have equal or, well, I just say equal influence as some of the ones we know.
• 25:38
  And it's interesting to see that the Rothschild family, which is probably even far more powerful financially and in other ways too than the Rockefellers, They're not in the news very much, and that didn't happen by accident. That's always been a Rothschild strategy. I came across that when I was learning about the creation of the Federal Reserve System and the origin of central banking in England and being transported to America and all that, you keep running across the major role played by the Rothschild Banks and their banking dynasty. And it became obvious, and even to their own boasting, they didn't try to hide it so much that the Rothschilds knew that because there was quite a bit of anti Semitism out there in the world, that often it was easier for them to do business in through front banks and front financiers so they wouldn't be recognized as Jewish in origin. And it's that's how JPMorgan got it got his money from the Rothschilds because the Rothschilds wanted to use Morgan as their front.
• 26:51
  And I didn't know any of that, of course, until I got into the history of it. And one of the values of JPMorgan to the Rothschilds was that Morgan had a general reputation of being anti Semitic. So, what better what better group would you think of to to pick up that part of the financial markets that would not normally be denied to you? And so, that's how they've worked, and it's a brilliant strategy. I I certainly can't blame them for that.
• 27:18
  If I were their position, I might have done exactly the same thing. But so we have to recognize that this sort of thing goes on. There are there are people that we never see in the news. The Rothschilds only show up in the news when it's something some item about a new wine that they've they're putting together or a a new racehorse or something like that. And you get the feeling from the way the press treats the Rothschilds that they're just a bunch of frivolous people enjoying the the benefits of great wealth, but they don't amount anything.
• 27:54
  You know? What a joke that is. I mean, the banking agents determine the the market price of gold and silver every morning. They're the ones that do it. Couple of people determine the market price of gold and silver.
• 28:08
  And that's got the fingerprint of the Rothschild side. Well, now is there something even beyond that? And there might be. This is the interesting thing. I don't know that there is, but I'm reluctantly coming to confront the fact that there is an occult element to all of this.
• 28:29
  There's a group out there. I don't know whether it's the same as the financial group or whether it's parallel or whether it's in competition, but it seems to me that there is an occult element to this group that is so far behind the scenes you hardly ever see it except in gruesome ways. Just find out that there's been child trafficking and murders and adrenochrome drinking and all this stuff. It's horrible stuff to even read, and most of us are not inclined to even read it because it can't be true. Some weirdo or two would do it, you can't have thousands of people doing this, so get it out of my life.
• 29:11
  Well, you can have thousands of people doing that. So, I'm rambling a bit on that topic. What I'm trying to say is that I don't really know for sure, but I believe that the decisions are made by individuals who we never even heard of. They're certainly not gonna be in the press. Now they either are people who own and control their own power in their own right, or maybe they're agents.
• 29:40
  Like Henry Kissinger was an agent of the Rockefellers Rockefellers. He was Rockefeller's bag man. And Kissinger showed up in the cabinets and in the in the hierarchy of all the American governments. Republican, Democrat, made no difference. Kissinger was always there.
• 29:57
  You know? So I'm sure that the Rothschilds have agents like that too, and they may just appear to us to be a a political figure or a bureaucrat or something, but they're the power they represent is extremely large. So I guess I'll go back to where I started. I I don't really know, but I'm I'm of the conviction that there are hidden people behind all of this. And finally, come to the question, well, what difference does it make?
• 30:26
  Interesting question. Because if you knew if you knew that it was, let's say, three people, well, you think, my golly, these people are trying to kill me. They're trying to kill millions of in fact, they are killing tens of thousands, if not millions of people every year. Are they our enemy or not? Maybe we ought to get these buggers before they get us, you know?
• 30:52
  There's an ethical issue there. But that doesn't work because then you finally back off and you realize that all of these people, whether they're financial tyrants or whether they're cultists or whether they're just crazy people, the only way that they can take away our liberties, our freedom, and our lives, and interfere with us in that to any measurable way is by the tool that they use, which is called collectivism. They take control of governments, and they use the power of governments to to do what they wanna do in the name of the government or in the name of the people who think that because they go to the polls and vote, they people think that they are determining their own political destiny. They have no idea that the elections are rigged, the news is rigged, so you it's it it throws public favor toward a certain candidate or against a certain candidate. They don't realize that their vote, unfortunately, is pretty many meaningless today.
• 32:03
  But nevertheless, it's all that's the facade out there that the governments are doing that in the name of the people. Therefore, there's not somebody involved that we have to worry about. It's the people. We are we are the problem. We voted these buggers in.
• 32:15
  So we we, you know, we did it to ourselves. Isn't that clever? Isn't that clever? Convince the people that they've selected their own tyrants, and therefore, they had no complaints. Alright.
• 32:28
  That's part of the propaganda that's so so effective. So now I keep inching toward the real answer to your question, which is that regardless of who these people are, we don't even need to know their names. Well, although, I think we should. I think we have to be very careful. We if you're gonna sit down and have dinner with one of these buggers, you know, you you better keep your hand on your wallet and keep looking over your shoulder because they probably are gonna do you in in one way or another.
• 32:59
  But beyond that, it makes no difference because when they die, they're replaced by somebody standing right behind them, already well groomed, ready to go, and there are thousands and thousands of people like that who would step into those places. So worrying about just this man or that woman or so forth, maybe if we can just knock those people out of the system, get them out of political power or whatever, they're gonna be replaced by somebody else who thinks exactly the same as the same levers of power. So I think if we're gonna be realistic about solving this problem, we should know who our enemy is by name if possible. But we have to understand that regardless of who it is, if they didn't have the tool called collectivism, this idea that governments should be able to do whatever they do as long as it's in the name of the people, long as it's democracy, so called, as long as you get 51% of the vote, matter how you get the vote, makes no difference. Just get that 51%.
• 33:59
  You can do whatever you want to do, you know, because the majority rules. As long as that system is in place, we lose. And it makes no difference who or what the names are on these people. It's gonna continue forever. So that's my long winded answer to your questions.
• 34:16
  Why I have devoted my life literally for the last couple of decades to exposing the evils of collectivism and the advantages of individualism, which is the opposite of that. Because until the world understands that conflict, they're not gonna solve these problems that we're talking about.
• 34:36
  Seth Holehouse: Alright, folks. I've got a quick message for you. I have one simple question. If today you could no longer go purchase more food for your family with the food stores that you have in your home, how long would you be able to feed your family? Would it be a week, three weeks, a month, two months, a year?
• 34:56
  This is a really important question folks that we have to be very realistic about because the elites are proactively trying to put us into a state of food crisis and a state of famine. I'm sure you've seen all of the different food processing plants and farms that are blowing up. You've got cattle dying by the tens of thousands. They're proactively trying to collapse our food system because they know if they can control our food, they can control us. And so one of the best ways to be outside of their control is to be able to have our own stores of food and to be able to produce our own food.
• 35:29
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• 35:45
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• 36:09
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• 36:32
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• 37:06
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• 37:42
  You know, it's there could be families and bloodlines that we've never even heard of, because they've been hidden for the past, they've been hidden for five hundred years, for instance. And but what it was been helpful for me in that process, though, is realizing that similarly that at a certain point, it does lead to the occult and to dark practices. And then what that leads me to understand is that, well, it's just Satan, and it's demons, and it's evil. And that's what I need to know, is that at the root of that there's evil. And so if I want to fight against that, then I need to root myself in goodness and virtue and faith and that was so that's been the helpful part of that because I think that there's a lot of people I see they spend endless hours debating over, well, is it Klaus Schwab or is it Xi Jinping?
• 38:30
  Is it the Rothschilds or is it, you know, the the Saudis? And there's there's all this, I think at the end of the day, it's like, well, it's it's all just evil at the end of the day, so we have to just collectively be good and to fight against that.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. But now we come to another big question, and that is what is good? Now a lot of very good people are solidly promoting collectivism because they think it's good. So that we have a problem with that word and that concept. Look at all the churches.
• 39:08
  They're good people. But who's at the head of these churches telling them what's good to do? Evil people who want us into collectivism. You know? They're they're Marxists on the surface, but deeper than that, they're collectivists.
• 39:24
  And deeper than that, they might even be demons. Whoever I don't know. That's beyond my category, but I keep coming back to we've got to take the tools away from it. Take the weapon. The one weapon they need for all of this is collectivism.
• 39:39
  So let's get on with it. Let's let's get rid of the weapon.
• 39:42
  Seth Holehouse: And how how do
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: we do that? Collectivism cannot be used. Collectivism cannot be used for good.
• 39:48
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. I agree.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: It cannot be used for good. So it's not a question of, well, like money is good or evil depending on how you use it. Know? No. Collectivism is not like that.
• 39:58
  The only thing that comes out of collectivism is bad. And once you understand that, then let's get on with the task. And if we can't get rid of collectivism, at least cover it with cement or something, get it out of our lives.
• 40:14
  Seth Holehouse: Doctor. So when we're living in America in this day and age and seeing that collectivism has seeped into the entire DNA of our especially our federal governments, but even our state governments, our local government has been really just taken over. How do we it's like a parasite. It's a parasite that's infected the bones of our country. How do we get rid of, how do we cleanse ourselves, our country of this parasite of collectivism?
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Well, the first thing we have to do is to let people know that it is a parasite. I mean, most people don't want a parasite if they knew it was a parasite. You can look at your trees and your plants, and you can see parasites growing on them. We get all excited. We run to the hardware store, what do you got for this parasite?
• 41:10
  My corn has got these brown spots on it, whatever. We get all excited about parasites on the foods. In which we live, we don't seem to even recognize that they are parasites because they pose as being good. Well, we're going to take care of you in your old age. What's wrong with that?
• 41:31
  We're going to provide you with healthcare. What's wrong with that? That's good. We're going to make sure that you have adequate housing and education and opportunities and all these things that are good. So it doesn't look like a parasite.
• 41:51
  It doesn't look it looks like it's a great thing. So how do we how do we get rid of it? Well, first, we have to expose it for what it is. Let's just talk about what it is. That's why I wish I had thought about it earlier because I put together a new report called the chasm, collectivism versus individualism.
• 42:09
  And we're giving it away free to anybody that wants to to read it. It's it's the theme content of my next book, which if it ever comes out, will might even be called the chasm. And the chasm, of course, is that great divide between collectivism and individualism. And I would wish I just wish that if if everybody in the world could read that, like this absurd hypothesis, if everyone in the world could read it, 15% of the people would be motivated by it, and that's all we would need. 15% of the people can change the world.
• 42:54
  So, our task is just to get this understanding that we're talking about into the hands and into the minds of 15% of the people in the world, or in our country, or in our city, or village. 15% of the people will determine the course of history. So, when you think about it in that context, it's an attainable goal. I think that we're already approaching that number already. The only trouble is that 15% They think, I'm the only one that sees this.
• 43:29
  When in fact, that's not the case at all because they're getting their impressions of what everybody thinks from their boob tubes, from the television, from the news media. And if if you believe that that was accurate, yeah, everybody everybody's got consensus that collectivism is good. But from my personal experiences over the years, I think most people, if they don't understand it intellectually, understand it instinctively. They just know that there's a con game. They're not quite sure why and how because there's some pretty good arguments in in that debate that we need to dissect, but they know it's a con game.
• 44:07
  So, I think we're very close to that tipping point. So, I wish I had some way. I'm sorry. Maybe after this show, can send you an email with a link. And if you want to when you put your program together, you can put that link.
• 44:22
  And if people want a copy, a free copy, a download of this report called The Chasm, I'll be happy to send it to them. And I just have a feeling that most of your viewers would be happy to share that with others too. So, we're on the road now to solving the problem.
• 44:37
  Seth Holehouse: That's great. Actually, so by the time we, this show goes out, I'll have gotten your email. And so this show, as people are watching it right now, there's going to be a link in the description below, whether listening or watching, where they can download that, which is really good. And that it's, it's such an important point. And that's really, that's the reason why I'm doing what I'm doing is I believe that it's, you know, in many ways is a war of information and that there's this parasite that has infected our nation, but I think that the parasite's greatest strength is its cloaking ability, that it disguises itself as a good thing.
• 45:16
  It's like if you had cancer, yet you looked down and you saw a beautiful suntan, you'd say, Well, that's great. I look great. Look at myself in the mirror. But if you knew that it was actually this really evil thing that was hiding, you would do whatever it took to get rid of it. And I couldn't agree more that that's what we have to do is just help people see it for what it is.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, once you see it, and 15% of the people will be motivated to do something about it, and they will do, make whatever sacrifices are necessary. Doesn't mean that they have to give their lives to it, but substantial attention to this issue, spreading the word, passing literature around it. Hey, look at this. Be prepared to be rejected by that, by the majority. Remember, the majority never determines anything.
• 46:08
  It's always that minority, 15%, which interestingly enough are led by a further smaller majority of 3% who are the movers and shakers who will lead the 15%. And even that 3% now is led by an even smaller majority who are in into that picture of 1% who are the thinkers and the the visionaries. Put it all together. When you look at any any great movement of history, whether it's political or religious, it's usually one person or maybe a couple of people. Maybe maybe it's one person and 12 others that have joined with him.
• 46:48
  And the whole world is taken by storm because of that hardcore center with a pure idea and real dedication. Then it ripples out into the the world from that. It's an interesting formula once you understand it, and it shows up over and over and over again throughout history. So, it's a natural phenomenon. All we have to do is understand it and use it.
• 47:12
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. Well, one thing I'll say just for the folks that are watching or listening, first off, make sure you go to that link below and get that. Share the document. You know, it's free. Email that link to people, say download this and read it, please.
• 47:26
  Doesn't matter what, you know, gender or what political ideology, this is for everybody. And also just share this conversation, you know, press pause and email this to your friends or email it to your entire work list, you know, or say you're at a school, send it to the whole school list and say, is an important conversation because people need to be, we need to take the light and shine it on the parasite and let people see it for what it is and help them understand that if we don't take it out, it's going to kill us. It's going to eat our country and it's going to kill us.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: It's been doing a good job. It's already nibbled pretty heavily on our body already. We've got some pieces missing already. So, yeah, we're this is serious business. Can laugh about it and joke about it, but it really is very serious business.
• 48:16
  Seth Holehouse: It is. So something I also want to talk about with you is just some of the perspectives you have on the financial system and the the dollar as a fiat currency and its life cycle, but also the central bank digital currency, which is something that I've been paying a lot of attention to. And really, I feel like shouting from the rooftops saying that this is a very, very significant threat to our freedom. And so what's your perspective on the this overall plan that this small group of, you know, whatever we want to refer to them as is, is conducting to try to slay enslave humanity? And how does a shift into a central bank digital currency and the implementation of that, how does that fit into their plan to control us?
• 49:09
  How do you view that?
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: It's a good question because it may seem difficult to comprehend at first, but central banking, which is our Federal Reserve is a central bank, it's one of the many central banks, which means it's a financial institution privately owned, working hand in glove as partner with governments. And the way it has evolved over history is that central bank creates the money. Used to be the governments created the money. But that got to be unpopular because when governments created too much money and ruined the economy because of inflation, the people were incensed by that. The government, why they destroyed our country.
• 50:02
  They created all this money. So the politicians got wise to that. And I think they were assisted in becoming wise to that by the bankers who came to them and basically said, let us create the money for you. And we'll make it so confusing and so complex that nobody will understand the fact that we are creating money out of nothing. And certainly, it won't look like the government's doing it.
• 50:28
  So and we'll give all that how much money you want. You got it from us and it really won't cost you anything. Now, you'll have to go through the motions of signing an IOU because we'll make it look like a loan and you'll be obligated to pay it back. But you and I know it'll never be paid back. That's just for the unwashed masses out there to say, oh, well, it's a loan.
• 50:51
  And but it's a game. They said it's we'll just play the game where we'll create the money, make it look like a banking operation. And the money is loaned into circulation. Loans are good. People like loans.
• 51:05
  And it'll make it sound like it's for the benefit of society because we're improving the economy. We're building buildings and factories and stuff with these loans. So we can make it look like it was a very wonderful thing that we're doing. But let us do it, and we'll just peel off our percentage of every dollar that we create. And you guys just vote it and say yes, yes, yes.
• 51:26
  And that's how it all came to be. So from the from the time of the the Bank of England doing that trick, which was long before the Federal Reserve System did it, Federal Reserve imitated the Bank of England doing that. And that's where the Rothschilds came in, by the way. They did that trick with England. And ever since then, the public has been totally baffled by how money comes into creation.
• 51:51
  They they think of in America, for example, like most people still think that the Federal Reserve is a government agency. And, of course, as you know and many of your viewers know, it is not a government agency at all. It's a private cartel. It's no different than an oil cartel or a banana cartel. Peanut cartel.
• 52:12
  It's a banking cartel. It's made up of private banks. They run the show and they they make it seem like they're a government agency. And then it is a very convincing show they put on because they do have the power of government because they convince the politicians to pass laws that give the force of government to reinforce those cartel agreements. That's what the Federal Reserve Act really was when it was passed by Congress.
• 52:42
  It was nothing more than a cartel agreement, but the cartels themselves couldn't enforce it. So they got Congress to, this is figuratively speaking, get this big fat rubber eraser, and they raced from the top of the page. It said cartel agreement, raced that off. And they wrote in Federal Reserve Act. Now now it's a law.
• 53:05
  They passed it into law. So all of the conditions of the cartel agreement are being enforced by the government in the name of law. So people think it's a government agency. You can go to jail if you violate the rules of the cartel. So it's another trick, you say.
• 53:21
  Very effective one, might add. So ever since then, governments have had had the opportunity to get as much money as they want simply by going through the formality of borrowing it, going into debt. So people America's too deeply into debt. They're not into debt. They've just been playing the game.
• 53:43
  Nobody expects the government to pay that money back. It's a charade. It's it's theater. There's no way that that money is gonna ever be paid back, but it looks like a loan. So that's the trick sort of in a simplified version of what they do.
• 54:01
  And from that date forward, governments around the world have rushed to create their own little central banks so that they can play that trick on their voters and their people. And so the governments have all the money they can ever want, And it's no different than just printing the presses and so forth. Gone by. But it's so complicated now that people don't understand it, and so they get away with it. So now why is that important?
• 54:28
  It's because collectivism, in order to operate, has to have unlimited money. And if collectivists in power had to tax the people for that money, they would be voted out of power. If people understood that that this money was being created out of nothing for government expenditures and it was made to look like a loan, they might get angry about that, and there would be a taxpayer's revolt. But since they don't understand that, they just think, oh, inflation is rampant. It must be this must be the labor unions are getting too much money or the or the truckers or the the I don't know.
• 55:10
  Somebody's making more money than I am, They never think about looking to the banks or to the governments themselves, which have by this time formed a partnership. Work as one. They scratch each other's back, the bankers and the politicians. So now, the main point of all this, and here comes another lengthy answer, is that collectivism is expensive because you're going to provide benefits to everybody. You're going to give them home, shelter, now a guaranteed annual income.
• 55:41
  You're going to give them shelter. You're going
• 55:43
  Seth Holehouse: to give
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: clothing, education, everything. Vacations are going to come up. And you'll whatever you want from the government as long as you do exactly what they say. And if you object in any way, you're going to be unpopular with the powers that be. And you may not get that free money.
• 56:02
  You may not get that free house. You may not get those free food coupons. You may not get the free clothing or the free education. You may not get anything. And you will starve literally because now we come to the CBCDs.
• 56:19
  As long as we had money that you could stick in your pocket and put in a tin can and bury it in your backyard or hide in your mattress, it was your money. You could possess it. Exchange money with the guy next door. You could buy things at the store with it, but it's your money. But now if they get the cashless society has always been their dream because if they could get rid of real money that circulates like that so that you didn't have anything in your pocket, There was nothing to put in that can.
• 56:50
  It was all digital. Now we have a different story. And if the banks are in control of who gets those digit impulses, who gets that so called money, It would be money by definition as a medium of exchange. You could be cut off at the hip because of something you said about a politician or you opposed a certain policy of government. Well, yours you're disseminating misinformation or you're a potential domestic terrorist or to give you some handy title like that.
• 57:25
  So everybody will say, yeah, that's a bad guy. He he should be cut off. So you could wind up with no digits, no digital currency to buy anything. You couldn't buy groceries, couldn't pay the rent, couldn't travel. So you wind up sitting on the street corner on the sidewalk with a tin cup for somebody to put donations in, but they don't have anything to put in your tin cup.
• 57:46
  So you die. It's the ultimate, ultimate concept for human slavery. There's no way, no way that I can think of for humans to escape that if they ever succeed in putting it into place, which they're coming very close to doing. And everybody seems to think it's a good idea because it's being sold as, oh, cashless society. You don't have to worry about people stealing your money or anything.
• 58:13
  You don't have to worry about paying your income taxes. They'll just take it out of your bank account. It's all done automatically. You just enjoy life like Schwab says. You will own nothing and you will be happy.
• 58:26
  That's what they think is gonna happen. We will be happy. Well, they will be not very happy at all. So, that's my long winded answer to that one. In summary, central banking, this creation of money out of nothing is essential for collectivism to exist because there's no other way that governments can get that kind of money to control people.
• 58:49
  And secondly, the cashless society is their their their wet dream, you might say, is for so long that they can hardly wait for that to happen. And if the American people and the people in the world don't wake up to that fact that no, this is not the utopia they think it's going to be, it's ultimate slavery, they're going to be very, very unhappy.
• 59:11
  Seth Holehouse: So it's interesting that what I'm gathering, you're saying is that it really the central bank digital currency serves two fundamental purposes. One is that it gives them this easy way to fund their collective society, make sure everyone gets their token for their bread and the bread line, make sure everyone gets their digital token for their gas or that fuel based upon their carbon credits, right? So it pays, it gives everyone just the basics that they need to exist and to be controlled, but it also becomes a weapon used to control those who don't conform to the system. So it's used to reward those who conform and say, We will let you live, and it's used as a tool to punish those who don't conform. And so it seems like it's a very, very potent weapon and a very, very core pillar of a one world system.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: That's a very good summary. And it's even worse than that because in that summary that you just made, the assumption is made that if you follow the rules, you will get enough to get by. But we know from experience where collectivism has has come to full power like in Russia, Venezuela and so forth. There's not enough to go around. Even if you are obedient, everybody will suffer except the ruling class.
• 1:00:43
  They'll do all right. But obeying is not enough because there won't be enough produced to go around even for those who obey. So it'll be mass starvation and misery. It's unbelievable.
• 1:00:56
  Seth Holehouse: And that's why the Chinese were famously, you know, trading children to eat. Yes. Because it was that, it was at that point. And so, and you say that they're dangerously close, which I, I agree. Do you think that they'll be successful in implementing a global CBDC, or do you think that and maybe they are for a certain part, but I'm also seeing that there's a lot of people trying to create a parallel economy, a lot of people trying to move their assets out of what can be controlled by the central banks, whether they're putting it into tradable items or land or precious metals, things that are really off grid.
• 1:01:38
  So do you think that they'll be able to force everyone into this system or that there will be enough of a resistance that they won't be able to make it stick?
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: I wish you hadn't asked me that question, because I have to answer honestly. I think that the preppers and I'm one of them by the way. I figured that it's nice to have food put aside, you know, and extra things. It's nice to think that we preppers will escape. We won't.
• 1:02:12
  We might be the last ones to be swallowed up. But once we let that happen, it'll go full form. Won't let anybody exist for long. They'll come after everyone one by one if necessary. Because as long as there's an example of independent living, independent of the slave system, it'll be potentially dangerous.
• 1:02:40
  It could become infectious. They know that. They've written papers on this, by the way. They've had these simulations that we're aware of. They how do they prevent this from happening?
• 1:02:48
  Or if it does happen, how do we mop up? I think is the favorite phrase they say. How do we mop up afterwards? And so they they have plans for that. And anybody who thinks that if they just go out and get a little land in the countryside and and have a few neighbors that agree with them and they got their ammunition, you know, they have no idea what's going on in the real world.
• 1:03:09
  When those drones come overhead and and blow up your home or whatever they do or strike strafe here in the street, you were up against weaponry that is electronic and can kill thousands of people within three minutes or four minutes just like a microwave. Things that we don't even hear much about, but they're real. And the idea that they're gonna let us alone is preposterous. It's wishful thinking. It's what I like to call hopium.
• 1:03:41
  Too many people are taking hopium. I'd like to answer your question by referring to a very well done documentary in the life of George Orwell, was done by the BBC some years ago. One of the best documentary films I've ever seen. And we have it by the way anybody wants to watch it. If they come to our redpilluniversity.org and look in our audio, rather our video archives.
• 1:04:05
  Just look it up. It's the George Orwell documentary. And it's wonderful. But the reason I mentioned is this, Orwell's life is portrayed by a wonderful actor. You swear it's Orwell himself.
• 1:04:18
  Even looks a lot like Orwell did. And it portrays his whole life. But the point is at the very end of the documentary, Orwell is dying of tuberculosis. That's how he died. And we see him in his literally his deathbed, suppose, in this room in bed.
• 1:04:39
  He's propped up and he's having trouble breathing and he's very sickly. And there's a young lady there in the room from the BBC apparently as a reporter, and she's asking him questions. She's going to do an article on him. And her question is this. She said, well, Mr.
• 1:04:56
  Orwell, in your book nineteen eighty four, you paint a very grim picture for the future. She said, what can be done about that? And his answer, that's slow right, I want everybody to hear this. His answer is, he looks at her, said, well, there's only one thing that can be done. Then he looks right at the camera and says, don't let it happen.
• 1:05:32
  And that is my answer to your question. We shouldn't be talking about how we can escape it. Well, we need to. We don't want to be the first in line, I suppose, but we want to extend our liberties as long as possible. But that's not the main topic.
• 1:05:51
  How do we stop it? And that's what we have to focus on and quit trying to hide. Oh, I don't want to be controversial. It's time to be controversial. It's time to stand up.
• 1:06:04
  It's time to do outrageous things. It's time to fight for your own life and your liberty. So, my answer is don't let it happen. Important
• 1:06:15
  Seth Holehouse: words. So, given the knowledge of everything that's happening and just the layers and layers of these plans to really to attempt to enslave us. Do you have hope? And if so, what gives you that hope that there is a way that we can prevent it from happening?
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: I do have hope, and it's not hope ium, it's real hope. But it's based on several things. First of all, how do I say this without becoming theological? But I I believe that the universe is perfect. And I I think it has a perfect design behind it.
• 1:07:03
  And part of that design is for it to exist. Everything has must have a purpose even though I may be inadequate to understand what it is. It might be beyond my understanding. It might be some realm of intellect that I don't even know can appreciate. It might involve another dimension.
• 1:07:19
  All of these things enter into that discussion. But it is nevertheless, I believe, perfect and even I have a purpose for being here. And that purpose has got to be good by any definition of gooder versus evil. That purpose has to be good. So, if that is the case, I think the universe has its own self correcting mechanism built into it too.
• 1:07:46
  For every force, there's an equal and opposite force. There's no up without down, no left without right, no in without out, and so forth. And everything in the physical world has is based on that principle. Force, equal force, opposite force, and equilibrium in the middle. So, I I have to suspect and believe that this battle we're going through right now has a purpose and it's it's an equal it's an equalizing of portions.
• 1:08:15
  I wanna be on the right side. I think I am. Not because I figured it out, but because my Crusader gene vibrates and I just have no choice. I think you probably have that same feeling. We wake up in the morning and say, why am I doing this?
• 1:08:29
  This is not productive. People don't like me. I want to be loved by everybody. They say bad things about me. And nobody believes me anyway.
• 1:08:38
  They think I'm crazy and so forth. Why am I doing this? Well, it's because I have to do it. Why? Why do I have to do this?
• 1:08:44
  Because I'm programmed to do it. It's part of my DNA. So, I think it's part of that force that I'm talking about. I'm the hammer that's got to hit the other hammer. It was coming at me and I went to hit it back.
• 1:08:57
  So, I think that divine, if you want to use the word, that divine formula at work in our lives. So, take great encouragement for that thought. It might be phony, I don't know, but I believe it's true. And the other thing is that I see a great awakening. I think that's the phrase that we're using now, the great awakening, is happening.
• 1:09:22
  And of course, our enemies knew that would happen. They plan ahead. They have buildings full of strategists who think, well, if this happens, then what do we do? Well, if that happens, what do we do? And they have every possible outcome that you can think of written out and thought out and what their response is before it happens.
• 1:09:42
  And they certainly knew that there would be a pushback from the population as we get to this stage. They had determined long ago is what did they do about it? Well, I know, at least I think I know, one of the things they come up with is that they say, look, we know there's gonna be opposition. So what do we do? Do we just sit around and and do nothing and let it happen?
• 1:10:06
  Or what do we do? And the answer has to be Yes. My wife is telling me to mention redpillexpo.org. She doesn't know that we've already done that. But anyway anyway, good girl.
• 1:10:21
  Thank you. So, yeah, because we do to commit. Anyway, so where was I? I was back at and then they said, so what do we do? Wait around for that to happen?
• 1:10:32
  No. We'll create it ourselves. We'll create our own opposition. We'll provide our own opposition leaders. There'll be actors, but there'll be good actors because we know how people think and what they want to hear.
• 1:10:46
  And we'll just tell them everything they want to hear. Then they'll follow our leaders and our leaders will actually push back against us, never strong enough to overcome us. We'll win that way because we control our own opposition. So I say that because this is the battle we're going into. But if we can get this understanding out there about collectivism versus individualism, that won't work because all of their phony, leaders will have to have to endorse collectivism.
• 1:11:18
  If they if they came out against collectivism, they would that would be that would be fatal for them. They couldn't do that. So, by their fruits, we will know them if we understand collectivism versus individualism. And I see that what we're talking about here today is part of that great awakening that maybe they they hadn't counted on. What happens if people wake up to the value of individualism over collectivism?
• 1:11:45
  And is there anything they can do about it? Well, the only thing they can do about it is to create their own opposition to it. But even that would be undermining their power. So I have great hopes. I think that once people understand that just because someone stands up and says the right thing, that that doesn't necessarily mean that they are the right person.
• 1:12:06
  They could be they could be actors. And we'd have to this is another thing I'd like to bring to the table, which is we have to create this kind of awareness among our own movement, not to just believe everything that's thrown at them as being valid. Look to a person's whole lifetime. Look what they've been doing long before they showed up. Let's look at whole package.
• 1:12:33
  What do they do in every way and have been doing? What are their connections? Who are their friends? Where do they get their money from? I mean, look at Mr.
• 1:12:42
  Trump, for example. I mean, he's so indebted to the Rothschilds. It's ridiculous, but nobody talks about that. What's his background business? Are the principles?
• 1:12:52
  You can judge a person by their background much better than by what they say today. So, with all of the things thrown onto the table, I have great hopes because we're starting something not only just a movement that is not just a pushback, not just, oh, we don't like those guys. Let's get rid of them and replace them with our guy. We're creating a movement based on principles so that no matter who it is that goes in, if they follow those principles, that's how we judge them. Not by what they say, but by what they do.
• 1:13:25
  It's happening. And so I'm very encouraged by that.
• 1:13:28
  Seth Holehouse: I share the same sentiments and that's a whole different discussion of getting into a lot of that. But I agree. I believe that the true good, not the modern good, but the true good is coming back in force and that the evil, the darkness that was allowed to exist for quite some time over this earth is now in its end days. So before, I want to make your wife extra happy, and so I want to talk more about your Red Pill Expo. So I'm going bring up the website again, which is it, so redpilluniversity.org or just redpillexpo.com or .org?
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: They're both .orgs. Okay. And they're sister organizations, you might say. Red Pill University is the is the sponsor of the Red Pill Expo. Red Pill University is, you know, it's there all the time.
• 1:14:29
  It's twenty four hours a day, seven days a week, and we're online and all of that. That's where we build our movement. But once or twice a year, we have an event called the Red Pill Expo, and that's sponsored by the Red Pill University. But anyway, it's a separate event. Yeah, thank you for putting that up on the screen.
• 1:14:49
  This is our current homepage showing that Mickey Willis there. He's going to be one of our featured speakers. That's a great cartoon that followed by the name of Garrison. Ben Garrison put together showing all of our speakers. He does great work.
• 1:15:09
  But there they are. Those are our guys. Doctor. Brian Artis. He's a doctor.
• 1:15:14
  He'll be talking about the how much snake venom and shellfish venom is in all of our vaccines and medicines. It's incredible. He has the patents to prove it. It's an unbelievable story. That can't be true.
• 1:15:27
  But he flashes all these patent documents and the reports on how they're doing it, and it's in it's so well documented. You can't deny it. Kate Shemerani is coming from The UK talking about how over there in England there it's official policy now to to how do I say this to kill people who are old and then if they are handicapped sort of like the Nazis did and to get them off of the the the line, you know, off of the taxpayer. Dole. Anyway, all of these speakers are there.
• 1:16:02
  And if you come to red pill expo dot org, you can look at each of those speakers. One of the most interesting ones I found is it's right. Hold it. Yeah. Hold that picture.
• 1:16:13
  The second road down there is a fellow by the name of Robert Graham. There he is. And he's a forensic arborist. He was very reluctant to come out and speak he says I don't want everybody bombing me and burning down my house and so what I said well I understand Robert we could just we don't have to use your name and we won't use your face. But as we got further into this he said oh what the hell let's come on.
• 1:16:39
  Somebody's got to stand up. So, anyway, he's an arborist and he's traveled all over California. He knows everything about every tree in California, every bush, every vine. He knows which ones burn, which ones burn the best. And, he studied all of those massive forest fires in California.
• 1:17:02
  And he said, I think there's a 50 pictures that he shows in this presentation. And it's a stunning thing. The houses burned to the ground, but all around the houses the trees remain. The trees remain. What kind of a forest fire does not burn trees but burns houses?
• 1:17:23
  Now, the trees are dead because they've been cooked, he says. They've been cooked from the inside. How can you cook a tree from the inside? And he said, well, it's very simple. If you understand trees, he said some of them have a lot of water in them.
• 1:17:39
  And if you put water into a microwave, the water will boil. And if you put any put a piece of metal into a microwave, it'll heat up to 25, three hundred, three thousand degrees. He said, I bought a microwave one day and I there was a piece of tinfoil in there I didn't know about. Turned it on and the tinfoil started to burn. I guess it was the aluminum in the tinfoil.
• 1:18:06
  And he said, yeah. So the house is burned down because there's a lot of metal and and pictures of all these cars and trucks. The cars are melted. Melted. The windshields of all the cars are melted.
• 1:18:18
  The rubber on the tires is gone. But the non rubber tires remain. All the plastic toys and the plastic swimming pools remain hardly damaged at all. But the houses are gone, the trees are cooked. What kind of a fire is that?
• 1:18:35
  Of course, you come to the obvious conclusion. This is a directed energy weapon. I asked him just the other day on the phone. I said, what about these fires up in Canada and up in the Northern States? Is there a million acre fires, right?
• 1:18:49
  He said, well, yeah, there million acres. It's not exactly fires. He said, there's trees are cooked, but they're not burned. Really? I didn't know that.
• 1:19:00
  So there you have it. This is a this is a red pill if you ever if there were new ones. I I and so finally, I said, well, why are they doing that? Why are they doing it? I I thought they were trying to get people out of their homes in the rural areas, get them back into the cities.
• 1:19:14
  He said, well, they are. That's why in California, they're they're hitting all of these little communities. But up there in Canada, there are no communities. Why are they doing that? He said, well, I think think they're trying to create a narrative for global warming.
• 1:19:33
  Seth Holehouse: And so, where can people watch the Red Pill Expo? Is it something they can looks like it's in Des Moines, Iowa, so they can go there in person, or can they just register to live stream? Is that how it works?
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, either way. Either way, we want people to come because our program there is not just to get the information out. We can do that by broadcasting it. But we want to bring people together to cement that 15% we were talking about. We need to build a movement, boots on the ground, to do something about this, not just to be informed about it.
• 1:20:14
  And that has to start in every little community. We're putting together right now what we call campuses of Red Pill University. Groups of people in every county who know each other firsthand, face to face, have dinner together, have coffee together, work together, and make things happen. They can influence their city council, their county board of supervisors. They see who's they can determine who's gonna be sheriff.
• 1:20:44
  They can do all of these things from the ground up that you cannot do from the top down. The top down is gone, but we can rebuild from the bottom up and eventually will replace the top down. One of the biggest absurdities in my view is when I hear people say, yeah, if we could just get the right person into the White House. One person, you think one person is gonna change this this whole movement of history? No.
• 1:21:12
  We have to change society. We have to change thinking of them, everybody. And to alter the power structure from the foundation up, not just get somebody on a white horse at the top who they either can control one way or another, or that they can kill, and it's all over. No, you have to build from the bottom up. And that's what we're trying to do is why we want people to come to the Red Pill Expo if they possibly can.
• 1:21:38
  If they can't, then they come online and they can see everything from the comfort of their own homes.
• 1:21:44
  Seth Holehouse: Well, I encourage folks, and I'll put that link also in the description. So, if they can't, you know, the timing is too tight by the time video goes out for them to actual travel, you know, to travel there, at least stream it, you know, and get this information out. So it's redpillexpo.org and redpilluniversity.org.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Yeah. Those are the two two sites. That's it. So we covered a lot of ground and probably got some people mad at us, but oh, what the heck.
• 1:22:16
  Seth Holehouse: That's a good thing.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: It might be, if necessary.
• 1:22:22
  Seth Holehouse: Mr. Griffin, I just, it has been such an honor to have you here and I hope you'll come back again because I feel like I could just spend endless hours asking you questions and you've
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: Well, we could we could cover a lot of ground. That's true.
• 1:22:38
  Seth Holehouse: I just want to
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: you for inviting me.
• 1:22:40
  Seth Holehouse: Of course, and just thank you for what you're doing in this battle to save humanity. I think that you've played a very important role and I will support any way that I can. I just want to thank you on behalf of myself, and I'm sure all the viewers and listeners, just thank you for what you're doing.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: All right. Thank you. Well, Godspeed.
• 1:23:02
  Seth Holehouse: Thank you. We've now got a really, really critical follow-up interview with Doctor. Kirk Elliott, talking a lot more about the nuts and bolts of what's happening with the social credit system. And we just had a really significant thing happen where Doctor. Joseph Mercola, who's one of the enemies of the state, literally had his bank accounts, his CFOs, his CEOs, their children, all their bank accounts were shut down by Chase Bank.
• 1:23:29
  So they are rolling this out. So folks enjoy this interview with Doctor. Kirk Elliott. Kirk, it's great to see you, man. It feels like it's been months.
• 1:23:40
  You know, it's only been a couple of weeks. It's good to have you back I
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: know. So many changes and it does seem like forever. It's like, man, where's Seth? What's going on? But, you know, busy life moves, studios, I mean, it's just wild as we grow and impact and influence and what God's doing in our lives.
• 1:24:01
  But it does seem like forever. There's no doubt.
• 1:24:05
  Seth Holehouse: It's like time is moving faster now, and what used to take six months happens in a course of six weeks. And so, but yeah, mean, so, you know, it may look the same because we didn't redesign the studio, but I'm in a whole new studio, I'm across the nation, I'm not gonna give out, you know, even the state I'm in, because I actually had people showing up to my house like because people knew I lived in Ohio and they somehow figured out where I lived it was really creepy so now I'm just gonna tell people what state I'm in but I'm in actually in a studio that's probably four times the size of my previous home studio. And we have some just some really good plans. We're going to be building an in person set. Hopefully, you'll be coming out for like a long, you know, three or four hour deep dive interview.
• 1:24:51
  So amidst the craziness, there's actually a lot of really good things going on.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: Well, I can't wait for that. That would be great. I'm really counting down the minutes till we get to do that because there's always so much to talk about. And when we get together, it's just the synergy is even better than when we're just on a video call here. So I can't wait.
• 1:25:14
  Seth Holehouse: It is. So diving into there's just, there's so much to talk about. But there's one story that I saw over the past couple of days that had all of my sirens going off and for a lot of different reasons. And that is the story of Doctor. Joseph Mercola had his Chase accounts shut down and not just his Chase bank accounts.
• 1:25:43
  It was the opening paragraph says JPMorgan, and this is at MSN MSN, well actually it's Daily Caller on MSN. JPMorgan Chase canceled vaxxed skeptic Doctor. Joseph Mercola's business account. Listen to this, and the personal accounts of Mercola Markets CEO, his wife, and the company's CFO. And I think even their children had their accounts canceled according to documents obtained by the Daily Caller News Foundation.
• 1:26:16
  So this we also had Nigel Farage recently had his accounts shut down because of his relationship with Trump and his political stance, but this is frightening. I mean, we've you know, okay, you can maybe you know you get kicked off a Twitter, or your Facebook you get into Facebook jail. That doesn't affect your life, but to have your your bank accounts shut down by Chase who also just so happens to be the bank that's buying up all these small to medium sized banks as they collapse. Is that a coincidence? I mean, what is this?
• 1:26:56
  What kind of feature does this show you, Kirk?
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: Well, Okay, so there's a lot to be alarmed with on this. So, you know, most of our most of our viewers on this show would really resonate well with the message of Nigel Farage or Doctor. Merkel. Who is Doctor. Merkel?
• 1:27:18
  He's not like a political activist. He wants people healthy. He has supplements, he has vitamins, he's a doctor, he wants them healthy. And he spoke out against vaccines. He was a skeptic on it.
• 1:27:31
  But they didn't give him that reason really. They just said, we're cutting you up. But here's the scary part about what they did. They didn't just say, you're not being able to access your account anymore, but anybody that works for you, their spouses and their kids. It's like what?
• 1:27:49
  So now anybody that kind of has an association with you, if they don't like you, could see their stuff go away, right? And their access to their money. Now, so here's where we've been talking about for months now the whole concept of central bank digital currency and the whole notion that it's all about control, it's all about people control, it's all about social control. It's like, Curt, why would you say it's about social control? Because they said that it is.
• 1:28:22
  In the Federal Reserve docket, OP-sixteen 70, when they're defining what money is in the FedNow app, this is where they basically designed the FedNow app and it was put in the Federal Register. The definition of money, a unit of exchange, yeah, you give somebody some cash and you can buy something with it, right? It has a value, $5.10, 20, and it should be a hold of value. You expect if you have this $20 bill in your pocket for a few months, it's going to be worth $20 a little while from now. Well, inflation is eroding that, right?
• 1:28:57
  So they got a problem with that. But they added this fourth definition to money, which is social control. It's like, so I don't say that I'm saying it. This is what they redefined money as. And now when you fast forward three years from those statements, we're seeing what they mean by social control.
• 1:29:18
  When you shut down Joseph Mercola because of his stance on vaxxes, when you shut down Nigel Farage, a very popular, you know, British politician. Right? He was in he led the Brexit movement. He was pushing for freedom for people in The United Kingdom to get out of the European Union. He wanted the people in England to be able to vote for themselves and have their voice heard.
• 1:29:46
  Right? But so because he's a prominent politician, they had to give a 40 page dossier on why they gave him the boot from his bank, which was Coutts, c o u t t s was the name of the bank. Now this bank is kind of this upper echelon, upper crust, snooty kind of only wealthy people can go to this private wealth management bank, which he is a very wealthy person. I'm not talking about somebody that nobody would really care about, a bank like you or me or Jane Doe that has $1,000 at Bank of America. Is a very prominent person.
• 1:30:26
  It's not somebody like us. They were willing to actually take the heat for what they did. But in the announcement, in the dossier when they explained why they got rid of them, so they said Brexit was mentioned 86 times in this memo, Russia One Hundred And Forty Four times, PEP, which I'm not even sure what that is, it might be some kind of a European thing, 10 times, but also support for Trump, views on immigration, net zero, and the vaccine. So ideology, right? So now they're getting in trouble for impeding people's freedom of speech.
• 1:31:08
  It's like, oh, and they claim no, they have the right to say what they want to. It's like, no, they don't. People have freedom of speech nowadays if you agree with the globalist. If you don't, you have none. Right?
• 1:31:19
  So that's how they're now defining freedom of speech. It's like, you can say whatever you want as long as you agree with us. Other than that, you can't say anything because now we have teeth and we'll cut you off from your money if you say anything that deviates from the message that we want you to say. It's gotten that extreme. And that's why this this Mercola thing is is actually even more scary, so to speak, than than Farage.
• 1:31:48
  Why? Because it's an American bank. It's JPMorgan Chase. It's the bank that's buying up all these other banks around the country. And so pretty soon, you're gonna have all this consolidation in the banking world, you know, held under maybe four or five big international money center banks that are buying the medium banks, the medium banks are buying the small banks, all under this one umbrella with this weird notion that under programmable money, which is what central bank digital currency is, and under having in a central bank digital currency world a new process where all of your assets come together under a unified ledger, where they know the source of the funds, know the use of the funds, they know who the owner is, it's the opposite of blockchain decentralized cryptocurrency where everything is private.
• 1:32:42
  They control the data, they know everything about you. But it's no longer immutable and it's no longer unprogrammable. Meaning they can change the ownership whenever they want, for whatever reason they want. And ideology or how you think, how you believe is going to be whether you keep married to your money or not. I mean, this is what they are showing us by their actions.
• 1:33:09
  Seth Holehouse: What's crazy is that, you know, here in America, we believe so much in the Constitution, the First Amendment, the Second Amendment. And just looking at the First Amendment, there's been so much fight over the de platforming that's been happening on social media. The shadow banning the accounts being shut down the demonetization. There's been so much about that it's like this is a direct. This is a direct threat to our freedom of speech.
• 1:33:40
  And the thing is, is that if you look at you know, Twitter now X, which I like Twitter much better but okay, that's a different story.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: X Yeah,
• 1:33:49
  Seth Holehouse: X Okay, if you look at that platform, everyone's like, great, now we can say anything we want to. Well, like, well, what happens when they start maybe they want you to do that because maybe the next step of this is this social credit system where it's now going to be you're going to all sudden get a message from your bank saying, look, based upon your recent social media activity, and here's some screenshots of those four different tweets you put out, we're gonna have to cease doing business with you. I mean, what's gonna happen to me? I mean, I'm I'm certainly on some list somewhere. I'm a person that's sitting in front of a camera.
• 1:34:31
  I'm not this some anonymous, like, you know, like Trump MAGA 45 or whatever like I'm a person that my name is Seth Holehouse I'm right here. So, it this is like what happened with Chase, and I don't want be a fearmonger but that should frighten everybody, because that right there it's like what we're seeing is that they're inching forward they're pushing forward this agenda, and they're doing it step by step by step, and it always happens with the big guys first When they when they kicked Alex Jones off of social media, off of YouTube, I bet a lot of people, you know, lot of a lot of people said, oh gosh, well Alex Jones, he's really he's out there. He's the prominent one. I'm okay. Now look at how many accounts have been canceled.
• 1:35:18
  So when they start by going after Mercola and canceling his accounts, it's gonna start trickling down until it's like now on YouTube if you're an average everyday person with a small account if you post something that goes against their guidelines you're done that didn't happen ten years ago it's now part of the entire framework And so what's it going to look like? And is it going be in five years that if you say the wrong thing, it's like, cares if Elon Musk isn't going to delete your account for talking about something, right, that is deemed unacceptable to talk about the conspiracy theory doesn't matter if free speech is completely there on Twitter. If the banking system is going to use that against you and cut off your ability to access your money or to use that banking system. Like, this is a whole other world. Like to me, this is this is like the greatest threat to our freedom.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. A lot of people said, well, this is going to be based on political grounds and, And it's like, this has nothing to do with Democrats and Republicans. How do I know? Because Robert F. Kennedy Jr, a Democrat, was speaking out against vaccines and out against central bank digital currency as of late, saying this is possibly the biggest loss of liberty that we're ever going to have.
• 1:36:44
  Hey, Democrat. And you know what? He's being just ostracized by the media. It's like, wait a second, he's a Democrat. But he's not your modern day Democrat.
• 1:36:57
  He's like your grandparents Democrat. Right. Like, like his uncle. Right. You know, where those Democrats, I would say JFK is going to be more like a mainstream Republican today.
• 1:37:08
  Right. Pretty much. So
• 1:37:10
  Seth Holehouse: he's found that my mind JFK is now like a far right conspiracy theorist on the scale.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So he's coming at it from a voice of freedom. He doesn't like vaccines. Right? But yet now he gets his voice eliminated, right, on on ABC saying you can't speak because he said, wait, I'm running for president.
• 1:37:31
  It's like, so what? We're we're gonna tell the people what they wanna hear rather than you telling them what you wanna hear as a candidate. You know, evidently, even even the Biden administration is cutting him off from secret service, you know, even running for president. You should get that. I mean, there's so it doesn't matter what political side of the aisle that you're on.
• 1:37:50
  It all has to do with your ideas. Are you pro clean energy, pro green energy? Do you stand for a small carbon footprint? LGBTQ plus LGBTQ stuff. I mean, religious views.
• 1:38:08
  I mean, we're seeing Canada right now. See, look what happened to the truckers in Canada. Why did they get shut off from their bank accounts? Because of their freedom of speech and they were they were boycotting stuff that was going on with their big caravan. Right?
• 1:38:22
  So So they got cut off. Well, Canada right now is in my view more communist than China. It's like Trudeau is doing horrible stuff to the people. Even a pastor being sentenced to prison for ten years, you know, this is what they're gonna face. His son, the pastor's son was protesting something over the over a hundred yards away from where the action was.
• 1:38:46
  They said, nope, you're you're too close. Now you're in trouble too. It's like freedom of speech goes the way of the Dodo bird. And so I saw this article just this morning about how it was the president of the oil and gas association in America, very concerned that the Biden administration, because they've said things a couple of times now, are going to use emergency powers act COVID-nineteen style restrictions on the energy industry. It's like what can they do if they claim a climate emergency?
• 1:39:26
  What can they do? They can shut off communications. They can shut off anybody who's speaking out against carbon footprints and stuff like that. They can shut off your ability to heat or cool your house under a state of emergency, which is what they're calling for potentially. And why would I say that?
• 1:39:43
  Because UN Secretary General Gutierrez, a couple days ago, said this. He said, the era of global warming is over. It's like, sweet, but you know that there's another shoe about to drop. Because he said, we're now in an era of global boiling. It's like, oh, for crying out loud.
• 1:40:03
  It's like, stop using such extremist words. We're not boiling. Yeah, it's been hot the last few weeks. That doesn't mean. So.
• 1:40:11
  So here's where their science is pseudo science and it's all a bunch of garbage, right? Because they're using this, it's impacting entire economies, eco, economic ecosystems across the globe. They're using it to change currencies, right? Because if you shut off oil and gas, look at everything that that's going to impact. Plastics are made by oil, right?
• 1:40:36
  What do they want us to have? So you look at this stuff that's happening. It's like a boiling point in in the economy. And so so you've got Biden saying crazy things like, we're gonna block the sun because we need to cool the earth down a few degrees. And here's the pseudoscience that's behind it.
• 1:40:56
  I thought global warming caused the oceans to rise because it melts the polar ice caps. Right? They said if we if we cool down the the earth, well, it's gonna cause the oceans to rise and a lot of the coastal cities might be underwater. It's like, wait a second. That's gonna happen if you cool down the earth.
• 1:41:13
  I thought it happened if you raise the I mean, they don't know. They're just using these fear monger tactics, but this is what it's all about. This is why I went down this rabbit trail is because stopping people from accessing their money is the biggest fear tactic in the world. Just like the whole world is going to boil up and all the coastal areas are going to be underwater. They use fear, they use fake science, they use all this stuff to try to control by fear.
• 1:41:42
  That's not how people should be controlled. People shouldn't be controlled at all. People should be controlled by their own internal ethics and morality, and what God gives us is freedom to make a choice, right? With every choice that we have, whether we have a choice as Christians, for example, to sin or not to sin, to believe in Jesus or not believe in Jesus. Every religion has benefits of doing something the way that you should and consequences from doing the way stuff that you shouldn't, right?
• 1:42:15
  Every single religion. But when you're talking about these kinds of things, that should be your moral compass, not fear. Freedom to make choices and have consequences, good or bad, from those choices are what should compel anybody to do anything. Not fear of cutting you off from your money. But this is the difference between God's economy and man's economy.
• 1:42:36
  One is motivated by fear, one is motivated by love. And so we're operating in our world right now in the system that's motivated by fear, and they're causing people to do stupid things, Like literally line up for blocks to have your retina scan by the World Coin Orb that Sam Altman wants you to have because they're going to give you free cryptocurrency. It's like, don't do it. Seriously, don't. I'm looking at these pictures and I'm out loud, I'm saying, seriously, don't do it.
• 1:43:09
  It's like when you watch a thriller or a suspenseful movie and there's always the dumb people.
• 1:43:14
  Robert Kiyosaki: It's like,
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 3: down in our hallway.
• 1:43:15
  Seth Holehouse: Don't go in that room.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go in this door. It's like, no, as the viewer, you know, there's a monster behind that door. It's like, you fools. Everybody always does it. But this is how I feel like they're just like lemmings walking off the cliff.
• 1:43:29
  They're saying, oh, yeah, I want to get my retina scanned. Don't know why, but it sounds like a good idea because it's going to be more convenient, right? It's like, boy, choices for the sake of convenience never have a good result.
• 1:43:40
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. And that's the thing is that they're using the, you know, the unfortunately, I think a large portion of say America, you know, not sure what what percentage perhaps will just follow along and and you know, there'll be a day when they come out and they say, you know, the the fiat currency system has run its course. Look what's happened with the bank collapses, and, you know, here's why a digital universal bank, you know, or UBI, universal basic income, is is gonna be really good for you, and they're gonna roll that out. I think a lot of people would have say, Oh, okay, great. I mean, look at people on their second and third booster, right?
• 1:44:20
  So, but this is this is something I think that as you, you know, again, come back around to this and looking at, like, looking at what happened to Merkola, Right? And I did a recent interview with Aman Jabi about the basically how what he's saying is that the social credit system is already here in America. It's just we don't see it in the same way we see it like we do they do on like we do in China. But it's here, the infrastructure is here. And that's what, it's like with Mercola, was his, in a lot of ways, it was his digital presence that caused a ripple effect into the physical world he can no longer go that bank account and pull his money out at that ATM.
• 1:45:03
  Right, and they didn't steal his money, he probably had to move it to somewhere else, but still, there's real world ramifications. And so, I actually I want to bring up, there's another zero hedge article I want to read through a couple points on because it really, it really helps drive the point home because you know we've been we've spent a lot of time talking about central bank digital currency, and I still as I said a year ago I believe that CBDCs are the single greatest threat to our freedoms. They're the single greatest threat. So let me go read through a little bit of this article because this really helps put into words what life would be like under a central bank digital currency. So pardon me, published on this on zero hedge.
• 1:45:46
  So the CBDCs are coming in the elite plan to use these digital currencies to enslave humanity. Not really mincing words with the headline there. Central bank digital currencies are feverishly being developed all over the globe, and this is something that that should deeply alarm all of us. So I'm gonna read this. This next paragraph is really important.
• 1:46:11
  For a moment, I would like you to imagine a world where the government instantly knows whenever you buy or sell something, no transaction would ever be truly private, not even your most personal or embarrassing ones. In addition, your money would not truly be your own under such a system. Your access to the digital currency system would be a privilege, which could potentially be suspended or revoked with the click of a mouse. All of a sudden, you would not be able to buy or sell anything and you would become an outcast from society. Under no circumstances should any government be given ever begin such power.
• 1:46:58
  Unfortunately, the Central Bank digital currencies are coming and they're going to radically change how commerce gets done. So this is a long article that goes in and just details the progress that all the different banks have made, whether it's the Federal Reserve, or The UK, or the EU with the launch of their digital version of the Euro, Brazil, how they're testing their central bank digital currency, it says that CBDC is currently being tested in Brazil, it turns out that it has hidden backdoor features that would actually allow the government to freeze people's funds and adjust their balances at will. Okay, even Russia, with their digital ruble. That was just, you know, signed into law. Right.
• 1:47:45
  So, this is, this is, this is serious right and then here it says that overall it's being reported that 130 different countries are now interested in potentially developing their own central bank digital currency so out of one hundred and ninety five one hundred and thirty nations are moving towards building CBDCs. And so it concludes which I think is really important is saying by let us hope that nothing like this happens anytime soon, but we are truly living in unprecedented times, and they're only going to get crazier with each passing year, understatement of the decade. We're going to object to the implementation of central bank digital currencies, the time is now. Hopefully we can get a lot more people in the general population to wake up because the clock is ticking. And so I just I just that that really struck me that article because it's you know CBDC it sounds like some fancy thing, but like looking at this is what it actually looks like.
• 1:48:51
  It's like, you know, they told us you owe nothing like that's CBDC is you owe nothing you're given a digital credit by the global centralized system. And as long as you play by their rules, you can still use that Central Bank Digital Credit that they give you. What
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 3: do
• 1:49:09
  Seth Holehouse: you think about after hearing me read that?
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 3: Well, the enslavement piece is a scary word, but this is exactly what they're doing, right? Because in a digital world where they can cut you off from buying or selling, unless you agree with them. Isn't that really the true concept of slavery? Is. Money is not your own.
• 1:49:36
  Your life is not your own. You're giving up ownership. And this is what programmable money is all about. According to Doctor. Pippa Malmgren of the World Economic Forum.
• 1:49:47
  When she coined this term, I mean, maybe not coined it, but the first time we really heard about it was back in 2020 when she was talking about this, it's like, wow, programmable money. The ability to not let you buy or sell unless your digital social profile adds up to what they want, your social credit score. So the whole concept of immutability is so immutable and programmable. So those two concepts. So a blockchain, cryptocurrency like what we're used to, it's immutable.
• 1:50:25
  I mean, it can't be changed. Non programmable, it can't be changed. Under this new system, the back doors that you just talked about, the ownership can be changed. The amount can be changed. But here's one of the worst things about all of this, it has a time value.
• 1:50:44
  So you can program a time value to your money. Meaning, let's just take this example. It's like, hey, Seth, you've been working really hard your whole life. You have a hundred thousand dollars sitting in your bank account for retirement, right? You're saving up for a rainy day, you're saving up to buy a house, you're saving up to do whatever.
• 1:51:01
  Well, under this system, they say, well, yeah, it's July. Hey Seth, December thirty first of this year, all the money that you have is going to expire worthless. It's a use it or lose it. So it's like, what are you going to do? And they would use this to try to stimulate the economy.
• 1:51:19
  It's like, we need everybody to spend right now. Let's get us out of these economic doldrums. We're gonna get everybody spending, boom, economy fixed, right? This is their methodology. What happens on January 1?
• 1:51:31
  You used all of your money. Now you're completely dependent on them for your credit and debit system. They control the purse strings, right? So I think the time factor that they can have with programmable money when it expires is so dangerous because it could make people spend their entire retirement so you're no longer dependent on yourself and savings and hard work. You're now dependent on the government when in their own benevolence, they let you use your money when you want to or when they want to or not.
• 1:52:11
  It's not up to you. It's up to them. See, they can use these tricks to try to stimulate or slow down the economy, right, by having a timeframe for money. It's a very dangerous concept, which is built in inherently to the programmability of money.
• 1:52:27
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. And something that is why as we're kind of rounding out here towards the end, it's just some realization that I had because obviously, we talked a lot about central bank digital currency, we talked a lot about the de dollarization and bricks and about precious metals and just how all that fits together. And it's almost like, you know, when I'm looking to the future, that if I thought life was going to continue normal, say for the next ten years, and we're going to be slowly recovering going, you know, back out of the COVID stuff and, you know, everything was like back to normal. I would be treating my own assets very differently. Now I'm not saying that like, I'm a Mad Max person and I think that in a year, like I'm putting everything I have into building an underground bunker with ten years of MREs and a hundred thousand rounds of ammo, right, like, I'm not there.
• 1:53:27
  Right, but I am somebody that, like, I believe conservatively that within the next five years, we're going to see significant disruptions to our way of life that will eclipse what we saw with the disruptions that COVID brought about. Not to say that we're going to be in gulags in five years. I think that we're at the end of a system, right? We're experiencing the death of an old system, they want to bring in their new system, but I think a lot of us are going to opt out of that and have our own system and it's a whole different discussion. But when I'm looking at like my own assets, because I've been reflecting on this recently because we're moving, we're in the process of moving, we're building a house, we're selling a house, and I've had to think about these things.
• 1:54:11
  Okay, like what do I how do I manage the assets that are associated with that. And something that I realized because I, if I had a little bit of extra money, I always just tend to go towards silver, occasional little bit of gold if I came across something that's interesting, but it's mostly the silver, it's because I'm not looking at it and saying, what can I do with this money that I can make 7% a year or 10% a year over the next five years? And it's like, it's not an investment vehicle. Right, I don't have any money in the stock markets I pulled everything out of all that stuff. Because for me, it's like, I want to do everything possible to take the assets that I have, and just preserve them.
• 1:54:58
  It's like there's a storm coming. Right? There's a storm coming. I'm not interested in trying to look and say, well, the stock market's doing pretty well right now. So I keep this one in Apple and keep a little bit over here in this.
• 1:55:12
  It's like I'm looking at it and saying, I do I think that sometime over the next five years, there's going to be some level of turmoil. And if so, my own personal belief is like, I'm just trying to batten down the hatches and secure what you know what assets I do have to make sure that I can get through that and get to the other side of it and still have those assets, because as much as like right now is like maybe the stock market is doing great and you're making 810% a year and you want to leave it in there. If after five years that gets wiped out or as we saw with the unified ledger as an asset it all gets put on to the the b I s unified ledger and thereby is now controlled as a digital asset the same way that Central Bank Digital Currency would be. It's like, I'm trying to avoid that in every way possible. And so I just wanted to share that because obviously we talk about precious metals and you that's what you do, but I would never recommend anybody do anything that I don't really believe in.
• 1:56:19
  And I just I had this experience lately and thinking about it is like it really made me click and made think, you know what, like I feel like I've done the right thing. Like, I feel like I've actually made the right decisions with how I've managed these things. I just wanted to share that with you because it just was just this little kind of light bulb that went off for me.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, it's the same light bulb that's going off for a lot of people right now, right? Are scared. And I want to leave people with don't be scared. I mean, yeah, just because Sethi and I talk about politics and the economy and how dark it is, it's like we don't make up these rules. We don't make up these policies.
• 1:56:55
  The people that we voted for did, right? And saying, we're just talking about the ramifications of bad policy. But yet, if I were to focus on the storm, I would be very scared. I I simply would because there's no hope. There's no hope in the storm.
• 1:57:15
  It's too bad. It's too ugly. It's too nasty. The waves are too big. The wind is too strong.
• 1:57:19
  However, I'm focused on the solution. And in anything in life, when you focus on the solution instead of focus on the storm, that will put a smile on your face because it you know that there's hope. You know that there's an answer. You know that you're not gonna be in this spot forever. Right?
• 1:57:36
  And we do have a solution. We have a good one. Whether it's investing into silver right now as a tangible asset, that's not part of like this unified ledger, right? It's like real estate is going to be part of this unified ledger because it's not totally private. You have a title on it and you have property taxes.
• 1:57:58
  Therefore, it's not really private. Something that's totally private, it kind of gets out of that system. But we also have this other hope that's starting to percolate, and that is the rise of the state sovereignty system, right? Where you've got states' rights are coming up and you've got states like Texas and Alaska that want a state chartered central bank backed by gold. Get out of the federal system, get out of FDIC, Get out of this FedNow app system.
• 1:58:25
  And you've got governors like DeSantis in Florida saying we're not gonna accept CBDC. You've got eight other states, Louisiana, Arkansas, Utah, Oklahoma, Wyoming, that are now saying gold is legal tender in our states, meaning you can use it as currency. So I've seen this ground swell of support. So one other thing that you can do outside of reallocate your assets, call your state legislators seriously, because they will answer the phone generally. Their offices will try to call your US ones.
• 1:58:59
  You're never gonna get through. Right? But call your state ones and say, hey, what Texas and Alaska are doing? We wanna do the same thing. Propose legislation for a state chartered bank to get out of this federalist juggernaut and actually bring us freedom.
• 1:59:15
  This is why we voted you in. Right? So use your voice. Use your your power of your vote. Use the power of your thoughts to help encourage your state legislators to start doing the right thing.
• 1:59:29
  Because in all of this globalist bringing everything together into one global union, I'm seeing the opposite start to happen too, that states wanting states' rights and away from this globalist communist fascist juggernaut, right, And having their own rights for their own people, for their own citizens of those states. This is what I see happening. It's almost like the opposite spirit starting to manifest itself when this government overreach and control starts really trying to dig in deep.
• 2:00:05
  Seth Holehouse: I think the key is just which boat are you on, right? It's like, you on their boat? Are you on the boat of true sovereignty? Right? So, Kirk, we've reached the end of our we have an hour set aside, we always spend a lot of time chatting at the beginning, especially today we haven't seen each other for some time, but if folks do want to get ahold of you, we've got a special link set up just goldwithseph.com.
• 2:00:36
  You scroll down, there's a really simple little form you fill out if you want to talk to Kirk or someone on his team. Just do a free wealth consultation or the phone number is (720) 605-3900. it's as usual, it's great to have you on. I just I appreciate you being here. It's funny because I've taken a couple of weeks off because of the move and I saw multiple posts, multiple comments on Telegram and other places, people saying like, Where's Kirk Elliott?
• 2:01:11
  Like, want, I want, I missed my Kirk Elliott because we do our weekly interviews. So it's like, know, something's off the Yeah, so I thought that was encouraging though. So, you know, people like what you're doing. Actually, I've gotten a lot of feedback of people that actually have called in and worked with you and like, it was incredible, you know, so thank you for what you're doing. And thank you for the support you've given me.
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for those kind words. I appreciate it. And I'll let the team know because I do have an incredible team of people who love people, and that's what it's all about.
• 2:01:42
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. Well, take care, Kirk.