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Vikings Draft Prediction Headlines, Draft Day Trade Proposals, and New Rules in the NFL for 2024 | TSH Ep. 33 · The Skol Hop

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All right, Hey Vikings fans, welcome into another episode of the School Hot.
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I'm Evan, I'm Austin. We're just a couple of dudes from Iowa.
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We like drinking beer talking about the Viking you do school school. I
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knew that was going to be a halfway decent one when we were going into
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school. All right, ev you brought us a beer tonight. I did
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tell us about it. So we've got the third installment of kind of our
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tour of No Coasts Nitro milk Stout. This is the S'mores milk Stout.
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So if you've been following along the last couple of weeks, I think it
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was three or four weeks ago. We started with their cookies and cream,
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yeah, and then we took a week off because your wife got us some
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beer. Yeah. She got us the blueberry Blueberry Graham smack Smacker, which
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wasn't bad. And then we took the coffee milk stout for a ride last
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week and that wasn't bad. And now here we are finishing up the trifecta
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of these No Coast Nitro milk stouts, and we've got the s'mores Yeah,
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and it's pretty good. Yeah, I mean, I said it on our
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TikTok it's my favorite of the three. Yeah, and instantly, like this
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the first sip, I knew it was my favorite of the three. You
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immediately when we opened it, you said, oh, there's the marshmallows.
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Smell it. Yeah, it's it's definitely my favorite of the three. And
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it's not it's not a bad like overly sweet no, No, it's like
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a good roasted marshmallow. Yeah. And even if if you were somebody that
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didn't like like even the best of sweet flavors or whatever in your beer,
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which is usually me. I'm not a sweet or sour or anything kind of
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guy, but like, all of this is very pleasant, even like right
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now, I've had a few SIPs and like it's still kind of with me
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and I like it a lot. Like this gets good. Yeah, good
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stuff. So we'll definitely have some more thoughts later on once we get down
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to about here. Yeah, in the beer, we've only had a few
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SIPs so far, but so far not bad. Yeah. Oh yeah,
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well yeah, well we'll talk about it some more. But the other thing
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we talked about on this show is the Vikings. The Vikings, Yeah,
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really, the NFL as a whole, but mostly the Vikings and been kind
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of a quiet week a little bit since our last episode. I think they've
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signed a couple of players. I think we just said Shaq is a Griffin.
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Griffin somebody who I feel like has had a lot of hype in his
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career, but he's bounced around quite a bit too. So not a veteran
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minimum type contract. I think it's something like four to six million dollars is
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what he's gonna make with the Vikings this year. But I mean I think
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when he signed, Dustin Baker had some stat where it's like, yeah,
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this stat if he were on the Vikings, like the stat of his from
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last year, If he were on the Vikings last year, it would have
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made him like first or second, And like I think it was like quarterback
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rating against or something. I don't know, but I mean, maybe he'll
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turn into something decent. Maybe not. I don't want time will tell with
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that one. Yeah. Other than that, though, pretty pretty quiet week.
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Not really many signings, nothing major, nothing like earth shattering that's happened.
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Of course, we're all kind of waiting in anticipation for the draft to
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see what happens. Yeah, that will be a big deal. And that's
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pretty much like a month from now, Like I think a month from right
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now, we will know hopefully who the Vikings drafted in the first round.
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Yeah, and what happened with all of that, because as it sits right
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now, on March twenty fifth, they've got those two first rounders eleven and
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twenty three they traded for Houston or with Houston for that twenty third pick,
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and they're expected, I think, pretty unanimously, to live up. Yeah,
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load those up, hopefully not much else, and get get up into
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the top the top picks. It's funny to be on Twitter right now where
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anybody and everybody can have an opinion, including us, and seeing like these
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Patriots fans, they're like, all right, yeah, I guess I'd be
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okay with trading three to the Vikings if you know it was their first There
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are two first rounds this year, the first round next year, and then
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obviously JJ, Like that's insane. JJ would get their next three first round
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picks just by himself, right, Like, that's that's kind of crazy.
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And somebody would call me crazy for saying JJ would take three first round picks,
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but I don't think his price would be too far off of that,
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But yeah, it's it seems like we're in a time as Vikings fans specifically,
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but really all around the NFL that the pressure is kind of building a
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little bit, especially with that trade for the Texans first round pick, especially
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since we're still kind of waiting on that Justin Jefferson contract. Like, I
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don't know that there's any news that we should expect that right away, but
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that's something that could drop any any minute, anytime between now and hopefully before
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the season starts. Obviously, the draft is coming up, and every day
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you hear something different like, oh, the Commanders actually do like JJ McCarthy,
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or oh yeah, nobody wants to trade for the Vikings picks. But
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like it's it's all a little bit different, and it's it's exciting to be
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a fan, but it's also kind of terrifying because you don't know the future
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of the franchise will look a lot different one month from now than it does
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right now, and that's scary. It did seem like Kevin O'Connell, he
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indicated in his interview today that JJ has been kind of looped in on those
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conversations. He's been involved in some capacity. Obviously we don't know, like
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to what extent. But obviously, when you've got arguably the best offensive player
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in the league on your team and he's a wide receiver, you need to
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involve him in that process. You need to keep him informed on Hey this
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is who we're going to target in the draft, or hey this is what
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we're going to do, you know, to bring in an arm to throw
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to you, you know, whatever the case might be. So for sure,
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yeah, good stuff, Yeah, but kind of tense because we don't
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know what's going to happen, and anybody can speculate anything. So you have
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a lot more time on your hands than I do typically, at least to
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read things. Sure, so you've thrown together some articles here that I haven't
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had time to read. Yeah, and we've got our notes here in front
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of us. You've given me the headline. M hm, what did you
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You texted me earlier You wanted me to just like give my reaction to the
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headline. Yeah, why did you want to do that? We'll just read
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the headline and have you kind of riff on it for a minute and see
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what what you think they're saying and how you feel about that, and then
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I'll kind of give you a brief synopsis of what the article actually says.
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There's three of them. All three I pulled off of a Vikings Territory dot
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com. I believe two of the first two we're going to talk about were
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written by Dustin Baker, and then the third one was a Yanik Eckhard post.
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So yeah, let's uh, let's see what you think. So the
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first one we've got kind of in this whole thing is like, should the
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Vikings even trade up in the first round? So, first one the article
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is for the Vikings trade everyone is open for business, everyone in all caps?
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Yeah, what do you think about that? All right, Well,
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it would seem to me that the headline is suggesting here that because the Vikings
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have two first rounders, almost every team, especially any team with a top
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ten pick, should be listening to the Vikings when they call, saying,
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hey, here's our offer. What do you think? And I think for
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the Vikings, you know, at eleven and twenty three, I mean,
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if they can get into the top five for only those two picks and maybe
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one other kind of lesser pick so to speak, yeah, I think that
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would be a bargain for the Vikings to get into the top five. Yeah,
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you kind of hit the nail on the head basically what Dustin's saying in
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that is like, yet it might not be so much that the Vikings are
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gonna have to fight hard to gain one of those top picks. Sure,
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the first overall pick, that's out of the question. The Bears aren't going
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to trade into the Vikings, and the Vikings wouldn't have enough capital, reasonable
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capital to get to the first pick. Second pick, I mean probably about
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the same, maybe a little bit easier to get, but still probably almost
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like unreachable. But anywhere from like three to five or six, Like those
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teams arguably should be open for business. They should be listening because usually when
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a team trades a high first round pick back they'll get they'll swap the pick
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and then probably get the first rounder for next year, unless you're Quac in
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his first draft with the Vikings and you're trading down with the Lions. But
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we don't have to bring that up right now, But the Vikings, if
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you're trading with the Vikings right now, you're getting two first round picks,
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like you're swapping, and then you're also getting this year another first round pick
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this year, So it's kind of sweet. It's pretty nice, and I
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think it lessens the idea that the Vikings would have to give a first round
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pick next year as well in any trade. Could that happen, Sure it
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might, but I don't think it's a for sure, foregone conclusion that the
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Vikings would have to give up twenty twenty five's first round pick in any trade.
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So, yeah, that was the first one. I just have to
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piggyback off of that really quick, because you said Dustin wrote that article,
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and I saw a tweet of his this morning. He said, you know
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what, maybe all these teams saying they're open for business, the Commanders,
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the Patriots, the Cardinals, the Chargers, maybe they're all in a mad
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dash to do business with the Vikings. There's competition, and he emphasizes competition
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to grab the Vikings trade haul. For a week and of half, we've
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wondered who will actually trade with the Vikings. Well, perhaps it's all of
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them. Perhaps, you know, the doors are wide open and whoever's got
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the best offer is going to put pen to paper, and In could deal
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with the Vikings for these first rounders. And I think that tweet may have
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been his inspiration to write this article, or that article could have been inspiration
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for that tweet. It's it's the same thought process, Yeah for sure.
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Well that's why I wanted to bring it up, because it was definitely connected.
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Yeah. So the other article I have, or the second one I
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have, is also by Dustin Baker, and it's kind of a warning from
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that first idea where everybody could be looking at trade with the Vikings. It's
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kind of a warning. But we'll read the headline. I forgot what we
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were doing here. I was about to explain it, but I want you
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to. I want you to guess what it means. The title is Vikings
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evidently have a quote unquote warning about trade. What do you think? I
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think that could mean a couple of things. I think it could mean that
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their guy isn't in the top ten. And you know, maybe maybe I
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wouldn't be a fan of this, and it would probably like crush the souls
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of Vikings fans everywhere if they waited until pick eleven to do anything. Man,
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But you know, maybe like Michael Pennix is their guy, maybe he's
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the one that they're going for. You just everyone just probably turned off the
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I'm not saying that that's what I want. I'm just saying, like,
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perhaps, I mean, sure, crazier things have happened, right. I
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think the other thing that it could mean is maybe they're gonna ride with Sam
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Darnold for a while, see what what happens there. And maybe the trade
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with the Texans wasn't to trade up and get their guy at quarterback, which
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again I think all of us would say that's a huge mistake. Oh if
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they don't do that, But perhaps that could be it as well, and
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maybe they're not willing to. I don't know. Maybe maybe there's a specific
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trade they want in the Vikings, yeah, in the top five, and
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if they can't get it, deals off, we're just going to stay at
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eleven and twenty three and get who we can get. Yeah. Darren Wolfson
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on Twitter, he has kind of I think he replied to somebody in a
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tweet today or yesterday recently, because there's that idea from last year's draft that
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apparently the Vikings were all in on doing everything they could for Anthony Richardson,
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and somebody tweeted it Darren kind of asking about that, like was that right?
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Like was that true? Or is that, you know, just more
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noise that it's out there. And Wolson basically said like they were if he
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fell past a certain pick, and obviously Richardson didn't fall, so kind of
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like what you just said, if the Vikings they have a plan, they
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have a guy, and if he gone, then they're not gonna trade the
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farm. Because Yeah, maybe I'm rolling my eyes at the idea of the
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Vikings their guy being Michael Pennix or bo Nix or whatever. Maybe that terrifies
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me as just the random fan on the street, But I've always also said,
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like the Vikings just need to pick a guy and do whatever it takes
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to get him. And if they know, let's just say Pennix is their
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guy. I mean, it doesn't seem like you'd have to move up from
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eleven to get Pennix. You might even be able to wait until twenty three
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to get you know, like, hey, these guys will fall. Yeah,
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So if that's the one that they've been targeting this whole time, and
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the only way to really know is if they trade up and they have a
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few guys available to them, it would be really telling to know, like,
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oh, they they had both Drake May JJ McCarthy and Michael Pennix available
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to them, and they still went with Penix, Like that would be super
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telling because then we like they have told the world like, yeah, we
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had our pick and we picked the one guy. So I don't know,
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maybe we all really don't ultimately know what's going on behind closed doors up there,
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but it's it's kind of scary because how many people would be super pissed
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if it is Bo Nix or Michael Pennox Viking's Twitter I just log off for
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a while, hopefully not, But yeah, I don't know that there's been
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a draft class like this in the history of ever, Like yeah, I
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mean, it's just it's kind of crazy how one how many quarterbacks there are,
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and too how many quarterback needy teams there are in the league. And
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so going back and referencing Dustin's tweet that I brought up a few minutes ago,
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like the competition is fierce, y oh yeah, And I think gms
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in all of those top ten picking teams understand what's at stake, and they
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know that the futures of their franchises are also on the line, and it
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could come down to who do we pick. I mean, there could be
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a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady or you know, somebody like that, ready
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to go. You know, one of these guys, one of these quarterbacks,
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could be that next generational talent that just completely flips a franchise from bad
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to great. I mean, shoot, I just saw a TikTok that outlined.
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It was a video of every draft pick before Pat Mahomes the year he
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was picked, and obviously that year the Bears drafted Mitch Trubisky number two.
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And it was funny because they played a few second clip of you know,
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the commissioner would read the pick and you'd hear rich Eyisen give a couple second
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a reaction, and they did that for all what nine picks before Pat Mahomes,
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And like wide receiver John Ross was picked before he was ninth. He
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was picked ninth to the Bengals before Pat Mahomes and ten. And the reaction
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at Pat Mahomes was like, oh, okay, I mean he's decent,
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but I don't know. The Chiefs are doing something weird here. And obviously
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you couldn't have known because if you redo that draft right now, people are
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selling Pat Mahomes like stake in their franchise to be able to sign him.
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But so, yeah, this we could be super pissed at whatever pick they
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make on draft night, not realizing it could potentially be the best thing the
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franchise has done in their entire history, and vice versa. We could be
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jumping for joy. What if they get Drake May, What if somehow they
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get Caleb Williams. You know, like that's not gonna happen, but what
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if we'd be jumping for Joy and then that could theoretically be the worst thing
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they ever do. Like it, it's interesting and you never really know what's
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gonna happen until they start playing games. So the third and final headline said
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something about worst case scenario. Yeah, so before that, just to give
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you what that second article was actually about, I think it was more that
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and I think you kind of touched on it too, that all the teams
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that would trade back with the Vikings to go up and get their guy.
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That may say more about these quarterbacks than anything. Because if you're Washington and
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you have the second overall pick and you're basically outside of one person, you
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have your pick of the litter, and you still decide to trade back like
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that, that's kind of telling too, just like the Vikings if they had
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all options and they picked one of the guys, that's pretty telling on who
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it would be. But like, why would Washington trade back? They won't,
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But and I could see why the Patriots would trade back because they need
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to load up their roster for the future. But like it might be telling.
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Maybe these other teams aren't sold on the other guys, on these quarterbacks.
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So that's essentially what that article is about, Like, hey, be
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careful, like why would all of them want to trade back? So the
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third article was by Jannik Eckard, also on Vikings Territory. It is what
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if the Viking's worst case scenario happens. So what do you think that one
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means? Well, I think we've already kind of touched on it a little
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bit, Like they don't get their guy. Maybe they do trade up,
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and they trade up prematurely, and they're targeting Drake May or JJ McCarthy.
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Those are kind of the two most popular names in this narrative right now.
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But maybe they get Maybe they get all the way up to four, they
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trade with the Cardinals to get the fourth pick, and McCarthy and May go
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two and three to the Commanders and the Patriots, which is a very realistic
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possibility. At that point, the Vikings have spent a lot to get up
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to that number four spot. Yeah, for nothing, or at least for
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not the guys they wanted, right So yeah, I think worst case scenario,
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they don't trade up, they stay where they're at, and maybe they
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don't take a quarterback right away, you know, And maybe that's not the
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worst case scenario, but maybe that's just not like what everybody envisions they will
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do. And I think there's a big difference between like what we as fans
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think is best and worst case scenario and what's going through Quasia Dolfa Mensa's head
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right now as best and worst case. Like we could be spitballing all this
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stuff sitting here drinking a beer, and he's just sitting there laughing, like
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you have no idea. Like I've spent like countless sleepless nights thinking about this.
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I know exactly what I'm gonna do, and I have plans A,
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B, and C, and I have contingencies for each one of those,
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And so yeah, I would hope so too. I Mean, the dude's
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really smart and he's getting paid a lot of money to manage this team.
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But I don't know the worst case scenario. I think that happens. You
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spend your eleventh and twenty third pick to trade up and you still don't get
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your guy. Yeah, that's the worst case scenario. That's franchise is altering.
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So essentially, you had a really good idea. But it's not exactly
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what the article is saying. Basically, it's saying the Vikings didn't get the
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opportunity to trade up, like just nobody trades with them, so they have
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to stick at eleven to twenty three. Honestly, I think if they miss
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out on the opportunity, if they really are trying and they just can't get
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a deal done, I think there's a chance they trade back from eleven or
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twenty three. Like I think they try to recoup some capital loss and try
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to get as many picks as possible. But the article is basically saying,
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like, Okay, in the world where you're not you're just blackballed. You
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can't trade up at all. Nobody's going to do a deal with you.
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All your quarterbacks are gone, and you're sticking at eleven and twenty three.
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Yannick proposed taking University of Texas Byron Murphy. I think Byron Murphy the second,
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So we'd have two Byron Murphy's on them. Yea, that the roster
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A defensive tackle. He's elite, supposed to be elite, obviously, with
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all these rookies, you never know. I watched a video from his pro
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day today. He's a beast. Yeah, he's just an animal. Yeah,
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so he'd be really good. But I think most Vikings fans want a
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quarterback over an elite defensive tackle, even though defensive tackle is a need for
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the team. And then after that he was saying Yanick was saying, at
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twenty three, you could still get a Michael Pennox right of the two,
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bon NICKX or Michael Pennox. I think I would go with Michael Pennox.
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But again, as we'll say a trillion times, we're just a couple of
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dudes in your basement drinking beer, like we're now expert or authority on anything.
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But I'd be very upset if they walk away from the first round of
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the draft with bow Nicks. I'm gonna be very upset. That could be
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worst case that might be. That could be like a Christian ponder signing man.
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But I think you came up with an even worst case scenario than Yonick
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did in the article, where you do trade up and you still don't get
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your guy, and then you're just study like, I can't think of a
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worse possible scenario, Like honestly, the one proposed by Onic in the article,
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that doesn't seem half bad. That seems like the safe. And of
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course he's saying the worst case is not being able to trade up. So
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what do you do from there? Yeah, and you have your insurance policy
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in Sam Darnold, and also have Nick Mullens who has starting experience. You
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have Jaron Hall, who's I think most Vikings fans would take or leave him
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at this point. But like, you still have three quarterbacks on the roster
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that can start and at least be serviceable. Hopefully I don't throw four picks
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in the game. I'll never give a guy a chance to throw four picks.
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But I honestly like not drafting a quarterback in the first round to me,
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isn't the worst case scenario. I think getting that pick from Houston and
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taking the eleventh pick in Houston's twenty third pick and getting up into the top
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five and not getting your guy. That's yeah, that would be bad.
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I think I gotta disagree a little bit. I think if they come away
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from this first round without one of the top four quarterbacks you know there's I
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mean Kayleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, Drake May and JJ McCarthy. I think
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if they come away from the draft without one of those guys, or at
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least Michael Pennix, I think that is the worst case scenario. Like I
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think, because you have just let Kirk walk granted for a contract that the
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Vikings would have been just stupid to match or sign something close to it.
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You have not gone after another elite level quarterback. I mean Sam Darnold.
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Yeah, this is probably his best outside of the Niners last year. This
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is probably his best team he's been on or around. Definitely the best one
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he's been because he's currently the starter. That definitely the best one he's been
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labeled as a starter. If you come away from the draft without one of
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those top four guys, that's where the knives and pitchforks are coming out and
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everybody's saying, all right, already, Quacy duffhamensa needs to be gone,
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Like I don't know if I agree with that, but it would be the
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worst case scenario to not get one of those guys to me. I mean,
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it would be so deflating. So to kind of wrap up this segment
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here, you got to play a little game where you had read the articles
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and I had to guess, by the way, go check out those articles.
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Yeah for sure. I know we're kind of simping on Vikings Territory dot
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com right now a little bit, but they do good stuff and both of
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those were quick and nice and entertaining reads. You should definitely check them out.
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I don't know if we'll tweet them out or we'll post them in the
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show notes, but definitely check out Vikings Territory dot com. Yes, yeah,
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very trustworthy. Yeah, Vikings source. So I stumbled upon this on
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Facebook. I have three trade scenarios here for the Vikings to get into the
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top five. Okay, I want you to know what you would prefer of
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these three. Okay, you can't change anything. You just have to roll
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with what the what the package is, and what the offer is. So
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number one, this is the Drake May trade. Okay, this is what
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that's what it's labeled. We could you can whatever you want, and you
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wouldn't necessarily have to take Drake May. But the Vikings would get the number
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two overall pick. Oh, they would trade to the Commanders a twenty twenty
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four of both of their twenty twenty four first rounders, so the eleven,
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yeah, and twenty third and their fifth rounder one hundred and seventy seventh overall,
27:22
as well as a twenty twenty five first round and third round. Okay,
27:29
so that's that's quite a bit. I would say, if you're going
27:32
to number two, that's the whole package right there. That's biking five picks
27:36
for one. Yeah, Okay, I think value wise that's not terrible.
27:41
I don't know, like that's so not terrible that I don't think the Commanders
27:45
would do it. But let's just pretend we're living in a world where this
27:48
is what they've done for any quarterback. Like if they do that, you
27:52
know, like the guy they pick is the guy they want, because Killer
27:57
William's already gone as of right now, he's basically already off the clock.
28:03
So it's just they're essentially trading for the first overall pick at that scenario because
28:07
the first one's already done and you know, whoever they pick at that one
28:11
is the guy they wanted. So I'm comfortable with whoever it would be then
28:15
unless it's bo Nicks. Definitely not. If that was it, what three
28:22
first round picks, you know, two fifths and a third essentially one fifth
28:27
and a third, one fifth and a third, it's five total picks,
28:32
three first rounders, two non first rounders. Yeah, I mean sign me
28:37
up for that one right away, institut interesting, all right because also in
28:41
that scenario, if the Vikings did that, they know the guy they want,
28:47
they're not going to get unless they leap frog the Patriots. Like that
28:52
tells you enough right there too. So yeah, all right, number two,
28:59
I won't give you a title on this one, okay, just to
29:02
that's fine, just to get the pick because no bias. Yeah, sure,
29:06
So the Vikings would get the number five overall pick the Chargers obviously working
29:11
with the Chargers, and all they would give up is this year's two first
29:15
rounders, so they would just swap the eleventh and twenty third picks this year
29:21
for the fifth overall pick. Yeah, I mean sign me up there too,
29:26
unless because in that scenario of the Bears of Caleb Williams the Commanders have
29:33
chosen. Probably Jayden Daniels is the name everybody's hearing for them, which could
29:37
be a lie nothing you see. You can hear it from the owner's mouth
29:41
right now, and it could be a just blatant lie. Smokes for sure,
29:45
But yeah, Caleb Williams of the Bears, Jaden Daniels to the Commanders,
29:51
and then probably another quarterback Drake May or JJ McCarthy to the Patriots at
29:56
three. You gotta I wonder if Marvin Harrison Junior goes to Arizona. Well,
30:02
that's the only name I've heard people talk about with Arizona because they're not
30:07
picking a quarterback. They're either gonna pick Marvin Harrison Junior unless they're secretly in
30:11
love with somebody else, or they trade with another team. But let's just
30:17
say they keep the pick there. They're probably picking Marvin Harrison Junior unless they
30:21
hate Kyler Murray and they're just gonna go move on from him with a different
30:25
quarterback. Anyways. But yeah, that scenario, it's probably Marvin Harrison Junior.
30:29
So yeah, at that point you have either Drake may or JJ McCarthy
30:33
whoever. The Patriots didn't pick probably, And all it cost to you was
30:38
the two first round picks, one of which you already had, yeah,
30:41
and the other one you traded with Houston for a pretty good deal to get.
30:45
Yeah, sign me up for that. I'm good with that, all
30:48
right. Well, keep in mind, do you have to tell me which
30:51
one you want the most? Oh? I thought we were doing this individually,
30:52
Okay, So yeah, oh yeah, So I think I like that
30:56
one better than the first option. Okay, but I'm still good with either.
30:59
So the one twenty twenty four first rounder to the Vikings, they would
31:06
get the number four overall pick with the Cardinals. They would also get a
31:10
sixth round pick from the Cardinals, okay this year, and they would give
31:15
both of their first rounders to the Cardinals number four overall. So the same
31:19
deal, just with a I don't know why that would be a sweeter like
31:23
why they would also get I think it's just because it's one pick higher than
31:26
the Chargers. It's the number four overall pick. Yeah, But in that
31:30
scenario, the Vikings are getting more true for the same price. I mean
31:38
sure, yeah, there there are hall of famers that come out of the
31:41
sixth round all the time. I mean look at Tom Brady, but essentially
31:45
you can't bank on a sixth rounder even be making the team, so that
31:48
to me is kind of a throwaway thing. Yeah, I would do that
31:52
in hardbat definitely before that. So far, that's my favorite of the options,
31:57
just because that's a better deal than the second one that you said.
32:00
True, you definitely get more bang for your buck. You get an additional
32:04
sixth round pick, and you're only giving up this year's two first rounders.
32:09
Yeah, okay, So I guess thinking about is that all are there anymore?
32:15
So you could either sell the farm for the second overall pick yep,
32:21
or get a really good deal for either the fifth or fourth overall picks yep.
32:25
Man, that's tough because if I see the Vikings sell the farm for
32:31
number two, that says a lot about what they think they're able to get.
32:36
Like that tells me the Patriots have said no, like they've just straight
32:39
said no to any trade. And you're afraid the Patriots are gonna pick the
32:44
guy you want. So if that's the case, then you gotta pay for
32:49
that. So I don't know, I wouldn't be mad at that. I'm
32:52
gonna go with the third one. You said, with the Cardinals, it
32:55
gives you future ability to correct any mistake you might make. But if they
33:00
if the Vikings theoretically are only going after one guy and they hate all the
33:05
other ones, which I don't know, I haven't heard anything for that to
33:07
be the case. I don't know why that would be the case. But
33:09
if they only want one guy, then you got to do whatever you can
33:13
to get there, and that would be the second overall pick option. But
33:16
yeah, for the sake of the argument, I'd go for that number number
33:20
four overall pick. What about you, which one would you do? I'm
33:22
I'm with you. I think that last one, So that last one had
33:27
the title of most realistic. I do think the Cardinals are the most logical
33:31
suitor for the Vikings. Now, the Cardinals would probably have to be okay,
33:37
not getting Marvin Harrison. Yeah, Marvin Harrison Junior is gone probably to
33:42
the Chargers. Like, yeah, he's the top ten pick easily. Yeah.
33:45
If I'd say Harrison, he's either going to the Cardinals or the Charger,
33:51
Like, he's not going to make it past five. Yeah, unless
33:53
both of those teams trade out for which pick. That's the only reason,
34:00
because the draft of this year is so competitive you never know. I mean,
34:06
everybody has a price tag, and I think the Cardinals and the Chargers
34:08
both have a price tag to move out of the top five. Oh yeah,
34:12
if the price is right, they'll say, yeah, go for it,
34:15
just like we said, well, yeah, we'll do that. We'll
34:17
give up eleven and twenty three to get into the top five, no problem.
34:22
And I said it earlier and I'll say it again. I think if
34:24
the Vikings can package those two picks, bundle them up, ship them off
34:30
to whoever, and get into the top five, as long as they can
34:35
get their guy yeah in the top five, then Quacy has played chess very
34:42
very well. Yeah did you hear? Because I think I saw something on
34:45
Twitter, which again you can never really know or trust really anything you see
34:49
online, but I thought I saw that the Texans approached the Vikings about that
34:54
trade initially, like they might add that they were the initiators, and the
34:59
Vikings we're the ones to be like, sure, yeah, let's let's go.
35:02
What do we gotta do, which almost kind of makes you feel a
35:06
little bit worse about that trade, like why would they the Texans approach it?
35:10
But either way, like the ending is the same. The Vikings have
35:13
two firsts and are able to package and move on up, hopefully move on
35:17
up to get their quarterback in the future. I think that's what everybody expects.
35:21
I'd be shocked if it didn't happen. Yeah, but I mean crazier
35:25
things have happened on draft Day. Yeah, so that's true, all right.
35:30
Well, it'll be interesting to see what happens a month from now.
35:35
Hm. And you know, all of our speculation could just end up going
35:38
out the window. We're just a couple of dudes and really just following a
35:43
bunch of other dudes on Twitter. That's true. So the league meetings have
35:51
started. Yeah, there is some up to date NFL news that we're getting
35:53
even today, pretty interesting stuff. A couple, well, one major.
36:00
I think there were three official rule changes today, but the big one is
36:04
obviously the banning of the hip drop tackle. Yep, what do you think
36:08
about that? What are your thoughts on that? Well? I want to
36:12
read because you have the definition here. You did a little research and this
36:16
is what the rule would be. So it says to be considered illegal,
36:22
the tackle must meet three criteria, which, let me pause really quickly and
36:27
just comment on how difficult that's going to be for NFL officials, Well,
36:32
think about like the catch, Like there's many criteria that have to be meet
36:36
for a catch, and most of us like sure, if you listed out
36:38
everything, like what is a catch, it might look complicated, But I'd
36:43
say the overwhelming majority even they know, we know the rules, like,
36:46
Okay, you gotta maintain the ball into the ground, and if it touches
36:52
the ground, it's okay. As long as you have like full like it
36:54
doesn't jiggle or you have full control of it. You got to make a
36:59
football move after two steps, Like most people can understand that concept. I
37:04
just my point is like, one, kudos to NFL referees for the extremely
37:13
challenging job that they undertake every time they put the stripes on and go officiate
37:17
a game. And two it's just this is gonna take a while. Yeah,
37:22
Okay, and I hope too, I hope the refs and the league
37:27
understands that and kind of eases it in. So I'll finish the definition.
37:32
It must the tackle must meet three criteria in order to be illegal. The
37:37
defender grabs or wraps the runner with both hands or arms, which I don't
37:44
know how you tackle somebody without doing that you have a one handed I know,
37:47
like a horse collar is usually always And that's only one of the criteria.
37:52
Two, he unwaits himself by an unwaits as in quotes, unwaits himself
37:59
by swiveling his hips or lower body. And I think that's the core of
38:02
the rule. And that's where like they're grabbing around the guy's trunk and then
38:07
the tackler just drops their weight. Yeah. Yeah, so there's that and
38:14
then lands on the offensive player's legs below the knee. Yeah. So I
38:20
think that third criteria that's the key. Yes, I think you're still gonna
38:24
see guys not get flagged and make legal tackles by basically what they're saying is
38:30
like wrap their arms around, their hands around another player basically like hugging them,
38:35
like hugging them and then just making their legs go limp, or like
38:39
swiveling their body, making the bottom half of their body just go limp,
38:43
so that the ball carrier is just dragging fireman, dragging a two hundred pounds
38:49
man, you know, or how much. But I think the key and
38:52
I have it bolted here is and the lands on the offensive player's legs below
38:58
the knee. So I think one of the players that responded on Twitter to
39:04
this rule change was Kenyan Drake and he posted like a video of him because
39:09
he's a running back of him in twenty twenty one being tackled via this hip
39:15
drop tackle and the defender rolls over as they're both going to the ground.
39:21
The defender's body just rolls over Kenyan Drake's ankles and breaks one of his ankle,
39:27
and that's where Kenny and Drake was like, I lost my season and
39:30
a bunch of rehab, and like that's what this rule is all about.
39:32
So I think you're still going to see guys like from behind, maybe hug
39:37
and then lose their weight. But as long as they don't like land on
39:44
the roll over the legs or ankle of an offensive player, that's where you're
39:47
going to see the refs be like that. That was legal, and I
39:51
hope they call it like that. Just like the whole quarterback we were all
39:53
up in arms for years after you couldn't put your body weight on the They
39:58
were trying to protect him. But I think everybody understood and I agree with
40:01
this. I don't know your thoughts but like, you can't be a three
40:05
hundred pounds defensive tackle running at a quarterback, hugging and then just straight putting
40:08
all three hundred pounds of your body into the force of that quarterback. That's
40:14
where that rule is coming into play. Just like this one. I think,
40:15
as long as you tackle somebody without or at least making an effort of
40:22
not rolling over their ankles, you're not gonna get flagged. I did see
40:25
something on Twitter today that seemed to suggest maybe that and this is probably just
40:36
It's not probably. This is for sure the opinion of the author of this
40:38
tweet, but the person I don't even remember who it was. It was
40:44
just something I think I scrolled past. But they said that this is just
40:49
another attempt for the NFL to garner results, to fix results, to make
40:55
things happen the way that they want them to happen in a game. And
41:00
when you brought up the quarterback rule, the sacking rule, I still think
41:07
there's a lot of subjectivity in that rule. Yeah, I think there is
41:09
too. I also think that rule has gotten and disagree with me if if
41:15
you think I'm not right. I think that rule has gotten a little bit
41:17
mellowed. Out like it has the intent of that rule has kind of been
41:22
flushed out, and it's being called for the most part the way that that
41:25
rule was designed, and not just as like, oh, we need to
41:29
protect Aaron Rodgers at all costs, like I think they're starting. It's been
41:32
a few years now, like they're starting to call that in a fair way.
41:36
Yeah, but wasn't there a play this season though that the Vikings were
41:39
on the wrong side of that? I feel like the quarterback type. Yeah,
41:44
maybe I don't. I can't remember specific. I feel like there was.
41:46
I feel like it was a Kirk Cousins hit. He went down and
41:51
we were all just like, where's the flag that should have been called?
41:53
And there was a specific intentional grounding call that Kirk had a It was basically
42:00
a screen pass to C. J. Ham and Ham basically touched it,
42:05
and they still called it intentional grounding. I don't know, That's what comes
42:08
to mind when I think of terrible calls against the Vikings this past season.
42:12
But yeah, I mean, I think this rule will be called. It
42:16
might take a year or two. There might be some the Vikings might lose
42:21
a game based off of the way this one's called like that's probably gonna happen.
42:25
Maybe not to the Vikings, but like it's probably some team is going
42:28
to lose based off this call. Ye, and it's going to be some
42:31
growing paints. And I think if you're a defensive player, specifically a defensive
42:36
back or a linebacker, you have to be much more cognizant of how you
42:42
tackle. Yeah, and I don't know there will be adjustments that will have
42:47
to be made for sure. Many defenders came out on Twitter today and voice
42:53
their opinions to Vikings. I mean, Josh Mattelis, he had a few
43:00
tweets and intelligent tweets, not like this is so dumb, Like he actually
43:04
was talking about it and like bringing up good points about how he doesn't agree
43:07
with it. Harrison Smith somebody like asked him how he felt about it,
43:12
and Harrison even like broke it down, like as a human, I feel
43:15
this way, as a man, I feel this way. As a defender,
43:17
I feel this way. You know. It's kind of funny, but
43:20
these guys aren't being quiet about it. They're they're voicing their opinions and they
43:23
have valid points. But Harrison Smith tweeted, Yeah, they just say they
43:31
banned the tackle you hip hop doesn't need to be included. Yeah, right,
43:37
And I think that's definitely like one side of this issue is some people
43:42
see this as well, they're just continuing to soften the game of football,
43:45
and you can't hit a guy anymore, you just can't do it. And
43:51
I don't know that that's entirely true, and I'm not on that sideah yeah,
43:53
yeah, but I'm on the side of, like, these rules should
43:58
be as object as possible, so that if you have an understanding of the
44:02
game, if you're an official who studies the game and is paid to make
44:07
objective decisions about the game, you can't help but not make the right.
44:14
Yeah, you should be able to pull the video and be like right there.
44:19
That's why it was called like this. Yeah, I use a lot
44:22
of like a triple negative in how I described that, but like it should
44:25
be that clear and in real time, you know, things move quickly,
44:32
And that's where I feel bad for NFL officials is they have to make those
44:37
decisions in a split second when things happen. But with video replay and everything,
44:45
and now they've got people in New York that are looking at everything too.
44:49
That was another rule change I know, which was awesome, and I
44:52
think it could save this this rule change about the hip TROC, it could
44:57
save games, It could save a lot of things because essentially there's somebody in
45:01
New York that can override is it any call? I don't know. You've
45:07
done more reading on this than I have, so but I like that a
45:12
lot, and I kind of teach you up to bring us into that,
45:17
because yeah, I think that that's a necessary thing in the league today.
45:22
And I think especially in the last like two years, we've seen so many
45:28
games that have hinged on horrible officiating, and I think people are sick of
45:34
it. I know I'm sick of it. And you can't necessarily blame the
45:37
refs. There's just not a system of accountability for them. They make the
45:45
calls and what they call stands, and if that affects the game, so
45:49
be it. And so I think adding another level of accountability absolutely, just
45:54
make it. Just make it fair. Like how many times have we seen
45:59
a Vikings the Vikings lose off of the other team scoring a touchdown and like
46:04
we're super mad, but like some calls, you're just like, I mean,
46:07
how do you defend that? Like they made a better play. They
46:10
did the thing better than the Vikings. So obviously the Vikings lose, but
46:15
that feels way different than if the Vikings if a referee runs into and tackles
46:21
a Vikings player in Washington and then the Commanders score a touchdown off of that,
46:27
but there's nothing you can do. So that's when people are like,
46:30
these referees are changing the game just by themselves. So, like you said,
46:35
if they can make the referees job as objectionable as possible, then it
46:43
just it doesn't feel as bad if your team loses off of a great play
46:47
by the other team rather than a yellow flag by the refs. Everybody who's
46:52
ever rooted for a football team has said, oh, well, my team
46:54
just couldn't beat the refs today, like at some point in their fandom,
46:58
like that's something we've all said. There's a This is gonna get really nerdy
47:04
for a second. But I read a book. I think it was by
47:07
Mitch Album. Okay, he wrote like Tuesdays with Maury and the Five People
47:13
You Meet in Heaven. I might have been by someone else I can't remember,
47:15
but anyways, it was one of those like New York Times bestseller not
47:22
necessarily self help books, but it was meant to be like inspirational, I
47:29
should say. And he told the story of how there was an Asian country.
47:35
I forget what country it was. I'm blanking on a lot of details
47:38
in this story, but we'll get to we'll get to the core of it.
47:43
He told this story of this Asian country who had astronomically high airline crash
47:51
rates. Okay, planes just were crashing left and right, and lots of
47:55
lives were being lost. And it took several years and several psychologists to figure
48:02
out what was going on, and sociologists too. I think they figured out
48:07
that in this particular Asian culture, respecting your superiors was a very high priority.
48:16
And so what ended up happening in a lot of these plane crashes was
48:21
the captain had made a mistake, had made an error, and the second
48:27
captain or whoever the right hand man to the captain is and the cockpit culturally
48:34
didn't feel like he could make the correction and say, hey, you made
48:37
a mistake. We're going to die. And it took them years, and
48:39
it took you know how many plane crashes before they figured this out, where
48:45
they had to train these these pilots, like if your partner makes a mistake,
48:50
you need to step in and say that he made a mistake, otherwise
48:53
you and everyone else on that aircraft are going to die. And it took
48:57
a while, but they eventually righted the sh and now that that country doesn't
49:00
have nearly sure any plane crashes, right, And I think that's the level
49:07
of accountability that needs to be obviously that the NFL isn't life or death.
49:13
No, yeah, no, not always. I feel like that's kind of
49:15
the way it is. Like the refs, you know, they they make
49:21
the call on the field and that's that's what it is, and sometimes somebody
49:23
needs to step in and say, no, that's not actually what what happened.
49:28
Absolutely, and I've said it on this podcast, I'll say it a
49:31
million times. I actually think the refs overwhelming majority of the time make great
49:40
calls, Like lots of times they see things in real time or at least
49:45
have relied on their training to be able to know what should have happened.
49:49
They see things and call things correctly in real time that you and me we
49:53
need slow mo replay to make sure they got the call right. And usually
49:57
it's like, oh, I guess, I guess I did kind of step
49:59
out there. Like most of the time, these refs are making the right
50:04
call. It's a job most people can't do. I couldn't be a ref
50:07
for a sixth grade flag football game, you know, and I wouldn't want
50:13
to. But I would also think most reasonable people, when they make a
50:19
mistake, would welcome a respectful like intrusion and somebody else saying like, Okay,
50:29
I'm not saying you're terrible. I'm just saying he didn't step out of
50:31
the out of bounds then, or that was past interference, or you know,
50:36
like most people are welcome to constructive criticism every once in a while.
50:40
And if I wonder how many times a ref has actually gotten a call wrong
50:45
in a scenario where that call can't be changed, so all they can do
50:47
is just kind of like take it. But I did find the change that
50:53
we're talking about here. Tom Pellisera tweeted and said this is big NFL comp
51:00
Petitian Committee chairman Rich McKay told me the replay assistant will now be permitted to
51:05
correct certain types of incorrect calls for roughing the passer and intentional grounding, so
51:12
not every single call sounds like it's just that those two types of things,
51:16
But that right there, the ability to change or correct a roughing the passer
51:22
call or intentional grounding would have directly benefited the Vikings at least once last year
51:30
the time that I was talking about, where Kirk tried to heat through an
51:34
incomplete pass to c J. Hamm. It was called and upheld on the
51:37
field as intentional grounding even though it hit the hand of ineligible yes, or
51:42
at least very came very close to hitting the hand, like it was close
51:45
enough that it was not intentional grounding. So if this rule had been in
51:49
place, somebody could have come in and said no. From this angle,
51:52
you can clearly see it wasn't intentional grounding. The idea of roughing the passer
51:58
probably comes up more off, and that'll help if they can make the game
52:04
better and not just muddle everything up. Like I'm all for rules changes that
52:08
makes it better. How many times have we said we can see it plan
52:13
is doing on TV. How can they not see it on the field.
52:15
So this is a step in the right direction. Agreed, and I'm all
52:19
for it, agreed. There was one other big change. I'm sure there
52:22
are lots of other little changes that we're unaware of but looking at and I
52:29
think maybe it won't happen this season, but if it doesn't happen this season,
52:32
I definitely think next year it will is a change to the kickoff.
52:38
Yeah, so I think I saw on Twitter they could be voting on this
52:44
change as early as tomorrow. So we're recording on Monday night. They could
52:49
make this vote Tuesday, the twenty sixth, Like by the time people are
52:53
listening to this, this could already be news that it either has been made
52:58
or they voted against it. But essentially, they'd be adopting the XFL kickoff
53:02
scheme, where the kicker kicks off from the same point they always have the
53:08
thirty five yard line and all of the blocking and advancing. I don't know
53:15
what's the word for the kicking team coverage team there, it is the coverage
53:19
team. They would all be lined up at the opposite like forty yard line,
53:24
and a returner could only return the ball if it lands within the red
53:29
zone the twenty yard line, and then obviously if it goes in the end
53:31
zone it'd be a touchback. But it lessens the amount of space these players
53:37
have to just missile run at each other while the ball is being kicked to
53:40
the returner. I also believe nobody from either team can move until the Yeah,
53:49
other than obviously the kicker and the returner, but yeah, all of
53:52
the blockers and coverage team they couldn't. They couldn't move until the ball has
53:55
been caught. So and I think that's interesting because like the coverage team,
54:01
the kicking team seems to have an advantage looking at the player. They get
54:07
to move, sure, maybe half a second earlier than the return team who's
54:14
covering for their guy. You know, they have to like maybe wait and
54:19
react if they're looking down the field and not looking behind them at their guy
54:22
who's gonna catch the ball. You know, they have to react to what
54:27
they're seeing the other team do in front of them. So it definitely it
54:30
will slow things down for sure, But it will still preserve the speed of
54:36
that play. That's what you're saying, right like that that play will slow
54:38
down. That play will slow down in a way that preserves player safety,
54:44
I think, And I still think it helps preserve the overall like just aura
54:51
of the kickoff. Yeah, it'll be different, it'll look way different,
54:54
but I think as a fan, it won't. It's not like they're removing
54:59
the kickoff like there is still a chance to return. I'm sure the details
55:04
are out there, but I don't know what that means for the idea of
55:07
an on side kick. Again, Yeah, I'm sure it's it's been laid
55:10
out there. If you could do something else, because there's still you still
55:15
have to have the ability to at least get a chance to get the ball
55:19
back after you score a touchdown. And again, I haven't read up enough
55:23
about that, so there probably is some specific wording to that, but we
55:29
can we can figure that out. But yeah, I'm I personally for it.
55:31
I liked when the XFL did it. Yeah, I don't know if
55:36
you're you thinking you like it or not for it. I definitely I've seen
55:39
the XFL do it, and the optics are different. I mean yeah,
55:44
when you look at it, when you watch it as a fan, you're
55:46
like, oh, that's weird, and it almost seems like surreal because you're
55:52
just used to like, as soon as the ball's in the air, everybody's
55:54
moving, and that's not the case with this new set up. As soon
56:00
as the ball's in the air, everybody stands still and waits and waits and
56:05
waits, and then you know, once the ball is caught, then they
56:08
start to move like it just it will take some adjusting for sure if this
56:14
is what they end up adopting, and it definitely seems like they're leaning this
56:16
way. M hm. I like it though. I like it for player
56:21
safety, and I think players are advocating pretty heavily for this, especially the
56:25
guys that are the ones back there returning the kicks because they're in the direct
56:30
line of fire. Yeah. Yeah, I don't. I'm not a fan
56:36
of the fourth down opportunity. I don't know if you've heard of that,
56:39
or they would be like the kicking team would really just be an offense on
56:44
like fourth and like twenty or something like that, and if they convert,
56:46
they get to keep the ball. Sure, I'm not a fan of that.
56:50
I think, like you said, I think every team should have the
56:53
ability to possess the ball after the opposing team scores a touchdown. It should
57:00
trade possessions. Yeah, but I mean, how many times have we hope,
57:02
like, oh, the Vikings need two touchdowns, they'll get a quick
57:06
touchdown and hopefully we pray for that on side kick, like there should be
57:09
some semblance of that quote unquote on side kick. Yes, I don't know
57:13
that the fourth and twenty five. Sure, yeah, probably is better the
57:16
best option for that, But I don't know. I'd be okay with a
57:23
change like this, with the XFL kickoff rules happening even as early as this
57:30
season, I think that would be a fine change. I don't think it
57:32
would be too crazy that it would. Honestly, I think this is less
57:39
crazy than the hip drop tackle. I think most people would be for this.
57:45
Yeah, it seems pretty easy to adopt. It doesn't seem like it'll
57:49
be that big of an adjustment for fans or players. Yes, it will
57:52
be an adjustment, but not Yeah, I mean, it's not going to
57:55
change like Harrison Smith is going to have to change the way he tackled,
58:00
yeah, which he's had to do like four times throughout his career, right,
58:02
and he still gets flagged every once in a while for hits because he's,
58:09
you know, this bullheaded, rough tough I'm gonna go after him and
58:15
it's gonna hurt me and it's gonna hurt them. But that's how you play
58:19
the game of football. Mm hmm. Kind of guy. That's who he
58:21
is. Yeah, So yeah, I hope they make this change. And
58:27
this seems to be one of those kinds of changes that they make and when
58:30
they do it, they say, okay, this for this season or even
58:34
for this preseason, like it's not an immediate, permanent change, But I
58:38
feel like we see it for a season, maybe two, and then they
58:42
adapt it full time. If it works well, that's enough time to work
58:45
out the kinks because maybe there's something we haven't thought of, like, oh,
58:47
yeah, this actually is terrible for whatever reason. I don't know,
58:52
but it'll be fun to see. Hopefully they vote to at least temporarily approve
58:57
it tomorrow. Sounds like could be the chance. Yeah, and i'd be
59:01
I would be on board with definitely adopting it in the preseason, seeing how
59:07
that affects things, and then you know, maybe they don't do it this
59:12
year during the regular season, give it a little more time for some R
59:15
and D and maybe see how the new UFL yeah handles that kind of this
59:24
off season for the NFL. But yeah, I'm I'm for it. I
59:30
like it. I like that better than the hip drop tackle, just because
59:35
it seems like it it wouldn't be as difficult to uh fold into the game.
59:42
Yeah, for sure, you said you liked the hip drop tackle though
59:45
I think so. It's that that third point of the criteria, if if
59:51
it's called the way that I'm reading, it's going to be where they they
59:55
have to land on the offensive players legs below the knee. Like that's a
1:00:01
defining criteria of making throwing that flag. I think if that is called to
1:00:07
the rule, it won't be that big a deal. And again, yeah,
1:00:10
if you can eliminate the as many possibilities of a guy breaking his ankle,
1:00:16
sure, just like the horse collar tackle, I'm sure a lot of
1:00:20
people were up in arms what twenty some years ago where they've officially made the
1:00:25
horse collar tackle illegal, But that's not something we hear a lot about anymore.
1:00:30
Like we're also not seeing a lot more broken legs like he used to
1:00:35
with the horse collar tackle. Like I'll never forget you. Well, you
1:00:39
you would have been playing I think you were playing this this particular day.
1:00:44
We were in seventh grade, oh Man football. That what would have been
1:00:50
the last time I would have actually been on the field on a playing football
1:00:52
too, because I quit after seventh grade and now I kept going. I
1:00:57
just never saw the field. Anyways. There's a particular classmate of ours who
1:01:01
ended up becoming quite the football player. Yeah, he was notoriously one of
1:01:07
the only sophomores to play varsity when we were sophomores. I think he was
1:01:12
a freshman that got bumped up in the playoffs. If it's the same guy,
1:01:15
I think, yeah. Anyways, I'll never forget it. I was
1:01:21
injured for the last game of our seventh grade year because I was the smallest
1:01:24
guy on the team and I got bulldozed by another guy in our class the
1:01:30
game before and hurt my wrist or something. I don't know. Anyways,
1:01:35
standing there on the sideline watching my team play, I think you played on
1:01:38
his team. I did in seventh grade. He grabbed one of the guys
1:01:44
and just ripped him down to the ground. I mean, he was a
1:01:49
man amongst boys. This dude was probably pushing six foot in seventh grade.
1:01:53
It was absolutely nuts. No, I went against He wasn't a defense lineman,
1:02:00
but on one plane practice he was a defensive lineman and I was an
1:02:05
offensive lineman. And as soon as that ball was was a spike or snapped
1:02:09
he reached over, grabbed the back of my helmet and shoved me straight down
1:02:15
to the ground. And I just didn't even know what to do, Like
1:02:17
I'll never forget that, Like what do you how do you defend that?
1:02:22
And I don't think he got called or in trouble. It might have been
1:02:25
like, hey, don't do that, Like, yeah, I know,
1:02:29
he didn't get a penalty. He was bigger than the coaches, like in
1:02:31
seventh grade. He was a full ground man. He still holds some records.
1:02:37
Yeah, football and baseball. He's a pretty good baseball. Okay,
1:02:38
Yeah, he got walked a lot. I think that's the I look at
1:02:42
the record boards all the time because I spent a lot of time in the
1:02:45
gym. But yeah, when we're talking about horse collar tackles, that's like
1:02:50
a core memory of mine. And I was I mean I was standing right
1:02:53
there, like I was within five feet. Did he get flag flow of
1:02:58
the tackle? No? No, he did not. Wasn't in a gamer,
1:03:01
impress, it was in a game. I was on the sideline because
1:03:05
I was injured. I would have been in the game if I would shouldn't
1:03:07
have been hurt. Sure as a as free safety as the ninety eight pound,
1:03:15
dripping wet free safety that was with my pads on. Yeah, there
1:03:17
you go. That's why. That's why I quit. Yeah. I was
1:03:22
always heavy, but not always tall, so I didn't I didn't get on
1:03:27
the field very often after seventh grade. But that's okay, And look look
1:03:30
at us now. I've look at us now. Well, I like a
1:03:37
lot of what we've talked about. That's what I want. Every good one
1:03:39
that that was a good one. That was a really good one. What
1:03:43
do you think? What'd you think of the beer? I really like this
1:03:45
beer. Yeah, I'm going to finish this one obviously, and then we'll
1:03:50
have successfully made our way through a six pack, which is pretty typical on
1:03:53
a podcast night. But I like it a lot. The the richness of
1:04:01
the flavors just doesn't disappoint. Yeah, it's It's definitely got all the elements
1:04:08
of a s'more. It has the marshmallow, the chocolate, the Graham cracker.
1:04:12
I still think it has a little bit of peanut butter in there too.
1:04:15
I never got that, but that's you know, it's just me.
1:04:18
Maybe maybe I'm weird that way. Peanut butter is not a bad thing though,
1:04:23
in this kind of a beer, So I like it. I would
1:04:28
highly recommend any of these nitro beers to anybody, no coast out of oscar
1:04:34
Loosa, Iowa. They've got the cookies and cream, the coffee, and
1:04:40
the s'mores. They're all nitro stouts. They're all delicious and yeah, and
1:04:45
this is a true statement because they're not a sponsor correct yes yet, yeah
1:04:50
yet, but if you want to be, we'll take all the beer.
1:04:55
But we've really enjoyed this. We've made our way through all three of them
1:04:59
now and I would pick this up off the shelf. Yeah, on my
1:05:04
own. Yeah, just for a weekend or something, or if I was
1:05:09
gonna go hang out with friends or family, like, this would be something
1:05:13
I would get and I would say, hey, you guys would like this,
1:05:15
and I would recommend it to other people. That's good stuff. Yeah,
1:05:17
So I'm this uh thismores one is my favorite of the three, but
1:05:21
they're all they're all home runs. They're all really good. And I've said
1:05:25
it before. I'm a I'm a bonfire guy. Sit me in front of
1:05:28
a campfire every night if you could, that'd be awesome. And this just
1:05:31
seems like the perfect end of the night bonfire beer. Like I'm I will
1:05:39
be having a few bonfire some more nitros this summer for sure. Indeed,
1:05:44
indeed, well thanks Snow Coast for some good beer. We've enjoyed it.
1:05:47
Absolutely, I'll have to have some more No Coasts on the show. Oh
1:05:51
absolutely, Yeah, for sure. They're all great. But we've got some
1:05:56
other beer that we're excited to try. Yeah, yeah, check out next
1:06:00
week. That beer is hopefully going to be amazing. Yeah, amazing.
1:06:04
But we'll leave it at that. For the four of you that are still
1:06:08
here, it's it's it's gonna be good. All right, Well, good
1:06:13
beer, Good chats until next time. School School Hey Vikings fans, Evan
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