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Behind Ed Gein's Case Catching America’s Most Brutal Killer · Weird Darkness:True crime & The unexplained

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  Speaker 1: This program contains graphic violence and sexual situations. Viewer discretion
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  Speaker 1: is advised. No! Two bloody crime scenes. Dozens of empty graves.
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  Speaker 2: Someone was going in and digging up corpses.
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  Speaker 1: A sick obsession with mother and a suit.
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  Speaker 2: Human skin he starts putting on female skin female breasts
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  Speaker 2: actual breasts.
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  Speaker 1: A plot from a Hollywood horror film this is a
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  Speaker 1: terrifying true story.
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  Speaker 3: Monsters are real and the scary thing is they look
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  Speaker 3: just like you.
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  Speaker 1: The actual events that inspired the movies Psycho, Silence of
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  Speaker 1: the Lambs, and many more stories of terror. Behind the Screams.
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  Speaker 1: Small Town America, 1954. It's a time of peace and prosperity.
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  Speaker 1: In rural Plainfield, Wisconsin, a town of less than 800 people,
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  Speaker 1: by early evening, most of the locals have settled in
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  Speaker 1: for the night. But a dim light still shines inside
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  Speaker 1: one local tavern. The owner, Mary Hogan, is busy cleaning
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  Speaker 1: up after a long day of work. She's a tough,
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  Speaker 1: outspoken woman who can hold her own against drunk and
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  Speaker 1: disorderly patrons. There's just one person left in her bar.
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  Speaker 1: As he quietly sips his coffee, she goes about her routine.
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  Speaker 4: You have enough coffee over there?
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  Speaker 1: What she doesn't realize... Inside this man... a flame of
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  Speaker 1: cruelty and hatred is burning, slowly growing more intense and
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  Speaker 1: more deadly. Watching Mary intently, the man reaches inside his
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  Speaker 1: jacket for a cold metal object, an instrument of death.
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  Speaker 1: The next morning, the middle-aged bar owner is nowhere to
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  Speaker 1: be found. The piece of Plainfield is shattered. It's a
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  Speaker 1: crime that will one day inspire countless horror films. A
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  Speaker 1: violent attack that sends waves of terror throughout the entire community.
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  Speaker 1: Why would anyone want to hurt Mary Hogan? And is
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  Speaker 1: the assailant Someone living here in Plainfield?
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  Speaker 2: I think when you look at individuals in small communities,
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  Speaker 2: they tend to believe that they know everybody, that they
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  Speaker 2: know everything that's going on. They're typically long-term families that
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  Speaker 2: have lived there. And they see the big city as
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  Speaker 2: that place where crime happens and there's a lot of violence. Very,
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  Speaker 2: very different from the location in which they live. So
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  Speaker 2: any time you have violent crime in a small community
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  Speaker 2: like that, and especially really aberrant violent crime, it's going
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  Speaker 2: to have a huge impact on the public there.
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  Speaker 1: The job of finding Mary Hogan falls on Sheriff Harold S. Thompson.
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  Speaker 1: Nicknamed Topper, he's a tough, serious man. a father of
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  Speaker 1: 12 children. Although he's a veteran peacekeeper, he's only been
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  Speaker 1: assigned as sheriff temporarily. Used to settling misdemeanors and local disputes,
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  Speaker 1: violent crime is something entirely new for Topper.
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  Speaker 2: Most of these investigators and police officers were appointed. They
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  Speaker 2: have very little training, so they don't have any experience
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  Speaker 2: working cases like this. It becomes a daunting task. when
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  Speaker 2: they're faced with a disappearance of an individual.
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  Speaker 1: Arriving at the scene, Sheriff Thompson pushes open the door
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  Speaker 1: to Mary's tavern and immediately sees the bloody signs of
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  Speaker 1: a violent struggle. He scans for anything out of place.
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  Speaker 1: A cash box lays empty on the counter. But something
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  Speaker 1: tells him this is something far more sinister than a robbery.
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  Speaker 3: In every crime scene, you have something that is being
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  Speaker 3: targeted by the suspect. The problem with this crime scene
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  Speaker 3: is that you've got missing cash from the scene, but
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  Speaker 3: you also have a missing body from the scene. Typically
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  Speaker 3: in a robbery, we're looking for the thing that's being taken.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to be cash. It's going to be some
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  Speaker 3: sense of valuables, some object perhaps. But when a body
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  Speaker 3: is missing, it's clear that the target is not just property.
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  Speaker 4: It's a person.
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  Speaker 1: Thompson finds a single bullet casing resting ominously on the floor.
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  Speaker 1: Clear evidence, the pool of blood is from a gunshot wound.
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  Speaker 1: On the bar, a spilled coffee mug sits upright, marked
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  Speaker 1: with a bloody fingerprint. Thompson wonders, does this print belong
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  Speaker 1: to the killer?
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  Speaker 3: A bloody fingerprint at the scene is really important to
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  Speaker 3: us because it indicates it's probably been left at the
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  Speaker 3: time of the crime. But remember, in the 50s, we
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  Speaker 3: don't have the same kind of database as we have today.
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  Speaker 3: A fingerprint database is going to be very, very thin,
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  Speaker 3: if at all. Without a known suspect with fingerprints in custody,
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  Speaker 3: there's nothing to match.
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  Speaker 1: Bloody drag marks lead from the bar through the red
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  Speaker 1: puddle on the floor toward a door. Outside. The trail
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  Speaker 1: ends at a set of tire tracks.
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  Speaker 3: Every crime scene hopefully leaves you with some form of
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  Speaker 3: forensic evidence. In this particular situation, inside you've got blood
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  Speaker 3: smears from the body being drugged, and outside you've got
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  Speaker 3: tire tracks. The problem, of course, is you're going to
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  Speaker 3: have to have a series of tires to match the
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  Speaker 3: tracks to. So it may have some investigative value for
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  Speaker 3: you along the way, but more importantly, it'll have value
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  Speaker 3: once you find the guy who has the tires.
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  Speaker 1: Sheriff Thompson's baffled by the senseless crime. Without a body,
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  Speaker 1: he has no way of knowing if this is a
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  Speaker 1: kidnapping or a killing. Witnesses who left the bar the
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  Speaker 1: previous day say that Mary locked up at around 4.30
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  Speaker 1: in the afternoon. But the evidence suggests that sometime later,
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  Speaker 1: she let her attacker inside and made him a cup
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  Speaker 1: of coffee. The assailant was probably someone she knew. very well.
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  Speaker 1: Recognizing his lack of experience and need for help, Sheriff
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  Speaker 1: Thompson calls the crime lab in nearby Madison to inspect
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  Speaker 1: the scene.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, hey Ron, this is Sheriff Thompson down here at
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  Speaker 4: the sheriff's station.
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  Speaker 3: If you don't have expertise and you haven't worked a
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  Speaker 3: ton of these scenes, there's probably going to be something
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  Speaker 3: you miss. And that's why smaller agencies will sometimes call
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  Speaker 3: a larger agency that has experience doing a number of homicides.
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  Speaker 3: You have a better chance of catching that missing detail.
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  Speaker 1: Thompson also starts a list of potential suspects. Mary Hogan
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  Speaker 1: had no known enemies, but her past is shrouded in mystery.
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  Speaker 1: Twice divorced, she moved to Plainfield from Chicago. Some locals
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  Speaker 1: believe she may have managed a big city brothel. There's
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  Speaker 1: even talk around town that Mary had ties to the mob.
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  Speaker 1: Was Mary in trouble with the mafia? And if so,
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  Speaker 1: did they follow her all the way to Plainfield to
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  Speaker 1: take her out?
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  Speaker 3: There's kind of a history and a period of time
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  Speaker 3: in America when the mob, loosely referred to organized crime,
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  Speaker 3: was seen as more influential by investigating agencies. So at
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  Speaker 3: this point, we're looking at the potential... that a mob
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  Speaker 3: hit could be in place here at this scene.
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  Speaker 1: But there's a problem with this theory of a mob assassination.
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  Speaker 1: Unlike Chicago, Plainfield is a small, close-knit community. People tend
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  Speaker 1: to notice when sharply dressed city folk drive into town.
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  Speaker 1: Even an average-looking stranger couldn't pass through without being noticed
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  Speaker 1: by someone.
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  Speaker 3: If it's a mob-style execution, I would either expect there
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  Speaker 3: to be a body still at the scene, executed in
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  Speaker 3: a particular fashion, or no body at all. What you
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  Speaker 3: have here is a kind of a combination of both,
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  Speaker 3: which really doesn't make sense from the perspective of a
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  Speaker 3: mob execution.
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  Speaker 1: If the mob isn't responsible for Mary's disappearance... maybe someone
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  Speaker 1: living in Plainfield is to blame. Mary's outspoken manner could
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  Speaker 1: have rubbed a bar patron the wrong way. One possible
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  Speaker 1: suspect is a tavern regular, town oddball Ed Gein. It's
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  Speaker 1: common knowledge in Plainfield that the 48-year-old man had a
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  Speaker 1: tough upbringing. His father was an abusive alcoholic, and his mother, Augusta,
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  Speaker 1: was an obsessively puritanical woman. She railed against the pleasures
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  Speaker 1: of the flesh.
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  Speaker 4: You can't trust any of them and.
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  Speaker 1: Kept her sons at arm's length a behavior that only
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  Speaker 1: made ed crave her attention more it also made him
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  Speaker 1: very awkward when it came to women.
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  Speaker 2: Ed had made comments about mary in the past so
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  Speaker 2: When people are focusing on, like, who could have done this?
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  Speaker 2: Why is she gone? What happened to her? Ed's name
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  Speaker 2: sort of surfaces, comes up to the top.
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  Speaker 1: While Ed's considered harmless by everyone in town, he was
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  Speaker 1: involved in another bizarre incident. A decade before the Mary
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  Speaker 1: Hogan investigation, Ed and his brother Henry Gein are heading
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  Speaker 1: out to clear some dry overgrowth from an area close
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  Speaker 1: to their home. The men set a patch of grass ablaze,
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  Speaker 1: and as the winds kick up, things quickly get out
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  Speaker 1: of hand. They fight to get the blaze under control.
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  Speaker 1: And when the flames finally go out, Ed walks out
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  Speaker 1: of the field, alone. he goes straight to a neighbor
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  Speaker 1: asking for help to find his brother, Henry. But then, strangely,
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  Speaker 1: at the scene of the fire, he guides the neighbor
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  Speaker 1: directly to his brother's motionless body.
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  Speaker 3: As an investigator, if I'm watching Ed bring this group
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  Speaker 3: to look for his brother and he seems to know
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  Speaker 3: exactly where to go immediately, is it a coincidence?
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  Speaker 4: I'd want to at least eliminate.
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  Speaker 3: the possibility that he knew where his brother was because
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  Speaker 3: he was the last person to see his brother alive.
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  Speaker 3: If you're assembling the most reasonable inference from evidence, this
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  Speaker 3: seems very suspicious.
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  Speaker 1: And there are other puzzling details. Henry's body and clothing
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  Speaker 1: show no sign of burns. And there are mysterious bruises
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  Speaker 1: on his head. Ed suggests his brother probably fell and
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  Speaker 1: hit his head on a rock. The whole incident is strange.
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  Speaker 1: But without proof, the locals accept Ed's story. A medical
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  Speaker 1: examiner says his brother must have died from smoke inhalation.
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  Speaker 2: They've talked to Ed, and although he's a bit odd,
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  Speaker 2: they don't really have anything else to go on.
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  Speaker 1: The reason town folk are so quick to dismiss Gein?
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  Speaker 1: Even though his behavior is strange, he's known throughout Plainfield
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  Speaker 1: for his willingness to help He works odd jobs, chops wood,
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  Speaker 1: whatever it takes to lend a hand.
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  Speaker 2: People would come to Ed and say, hey, Ed, can
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  Speaker 2: you help me load this hay? Ed, can you help
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  Speaker 2: me fix this fence? And Ed would accommodate them. He
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  Speaker 2: would go and do these things, sometimes for money, sometimes
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  Speaker 2: just because, you know, he was living in this community.
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  Speaker 2: He did babysit for a couple of families. Because Ed
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  Speaker 2: is really more comfortable with children than he is with adults.
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  Speaker 2: He's socially undeveloped because he's lived on this farm his
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  Speaker 2: whole life.
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  Speaker 1: He's small.
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  Speaker 2: He's very diminutive stature. He doesn't appear to be threatening
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  Speaker 2: to anybody.
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  Speaker 1: For these same reasons, Sheriff Thompson can't see Gein as
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  Speaker 1: a suspect in Mary Hogan's disappearance. he turns his attention
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  Speaker 1: to other missing persons cases in the area.
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  Speaker 2: Sheriff Thompson, this is the file you're looking for. Thanks, Daisy.
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  Speaker 2: When you have those types of incidents in a small
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  Speaker 2: geographic location, the likelihood that they are not connected is small.
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  Speaker 3: When investigators are looking at this particular case, there are
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  Speaker 3: several people at the time who are missing. within a
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  Speaker 3: time frame relatively similar. And what you're doing when you
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  Speaker 3: have a number of people who are missing of this
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  Speaker 3: nature is you're trying to find the common thread. Is
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  Speaker 3: there something about each victim that's so common that you
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  Speaker 3: could attribute them to the same suspect? Do they seem
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  Speaker 3: like they could be actually connected to one another in
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  Speaker 3: some way? Are they connected geographically? Are they connected because
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  Speaker 3: of the same age, the same sex?
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  Speaker 1: The sheriff uncovers three missing persons cases that have all
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  Speaker 1: gone unsolved. And they all happened within two hours of Plainfield.
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  Speaker 1: Case number one. An eight-year-old girl, Georgia Weckler, went missing.
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  Speaker 1: Walking less than a half mile home from school, she
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  Speaker 1: disappeared in broad daylight. Case number two. 42-year-old Victor Travis
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  Speaker 1: and his friend, Ray Burgess, went off into the woods
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  Speaker 1: near Plainfield to hunt deer. No trace of the men
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  Speaker 1: or their car was ever found. Finally, case number three.
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  Speaker 1: Just one year before Mary Hogan's disappearance, teen Evelyn Hartley
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  Speaker 1: was babysitting a small child when she vanished. Just one
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  Speaker 1: of her tennis shoes was left at the scene of
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  Speaker 1: the crime.
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  Speaker 2: There is blood found at the scene where she disappears.
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  Speaker 2: There's apparent drag marks. It looks like she was injured
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  Speaker 2: at that location and removed from the location. It's very
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  Speaker 2: similar to Mary Hogan, injured at the location and removed.
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  Speaker 1: Thompson notes that in each case, huge search parties combed
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  Speaker 1: nearly every inch of the surrounding landscape looking for any
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  Speaker 1: sign of what happened to these missing girls and men.
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  Speaker 1: But after days and weeks of searching, nothing. There's only
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  Speaker 1: one lead in the Georgia Weckler case, a dark Ford sedan,
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  Speaker 1: seen once on the road leading to Georgia's home and
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  Speaker 1: again later in town. But is this enough to catch
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  Speaker 1: a criminal?
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  Speaker 3: At best, a description of a Ford, especially if it's
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  Speaker 3: very generic in its description, is only going to give
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  Speaker 3: you a piece of circumstantial evidence you could later put
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  Speaker 3: in part of a cumulative case. But it's not going
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  Speaker 3: to be like that one aha moment where you say, wow,
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  Speaker 3: only one person in town owns a Ford. In a
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  Speaker 3: community like this where so many Fords are present, there's
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  Speaker 3: no way to connect the Ford to any.
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  Speaker 4: One particular individual in that community. It's just going to
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  Speaker 4: be one piece of a larger puzzle.
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  Speaker 1: One witness claimed he saw a young girl in the
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  Speaker 1: back seat pleading to go home, and a man shoving
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  Speaker 1: her down, out of sight. Then the car was gone.
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  Speaker 1: But was Georgia the young girl in the back seat?
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  Speaker 1: Was this a drifter kidnapping people for ransom? Or for
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  Speaker 1: some other evil purpose? And has the drifter returned? Thompson
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  Speaker 1: ponders the evidence, and it just doesn't add up. Young
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  Speaker 1: Georgia Weckler, teen Evelyn Hartley, the male hunters, and middle-aged
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  Speaker 1: Mary Hogan. If one man committed all these crimes, he
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  Speaker 1: has no clear method or motive.
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  Speaker 3: In this case, you've got a middle-aged woman, you've got
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  Speaker 3: two young girls, and you've got two hunters that are
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  Speaker 3: part of the potential missings that people are looking at.
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  Speaker 3: And you're trying to say to yourself, well, what is
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  Speaker 3: it about these five men different missing people that is
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  Speaker 3: similar or dissimilar. There's a lot of differences here between
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  Speaker 3: these five missing persons.
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  Speaker 2: I think if we were to look at these crimes
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  Speaker 2: in present day, of course, we might say that there
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  Speaker 2: may be some connection, especially in these small communities. We're
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  Speaker 2: talking hundreds of people. Um, They might refer to this
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  Speaker 2: as sort of a serial crime. Again, we don't have
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  Speaker 2: any bodies, so we don't even know that there's homicides.
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  Speaker 2: All we have are disappearances of individuals. We suspect there's
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  Speaker 2: been foul play because there's blood at a couple of
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  Speaker 2: these scenes, but all we have is that they've disappeared.
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  Speaker 1: With no strong suspects in the latest detectives, of tavern
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  Speaker 1: owner Mary Hogan, Sheriff Topper Thompson sets his sights on
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  Speaker 1: hunting down the assailant's vehicle. He used it to transport
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  Speaker 1: his victim. Matching the tracks found at the scene is
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  Speaker 1: the best lead he has.
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  Speaker 3: It's not unusual to have a crime scene where you
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  Speaker 3: don't have a lot of physical evidence, just a few
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  Speaker 3: small things, and you do the best you can with
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  Speaker 3: what you have.
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  Speaker 4: And in this particular case, we've got tire tracks.
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  Speaker 3: Unfortunately, it's a lot of work to go from tire
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  Speaker 3: track to specific suspect with that tire. In some ways,
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  Speaker 3: all evidence can be divided into two categories. Evidence that
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  Speaker 3: leads you directly to a suspect and evidence that once
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  Speaker 3: you have a suspect can connect you to a crime.
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  Speaker 3: Tire tracks are more in the second category. I can't
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  Speaker 3: use a tire track and immediately tell you who the
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  Speaker 3: suspect is. But if you can give me the suspect
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  Speaker 3: who's got a car, I can match the car in
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  Speaker 3: reverse to the tire track.
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  Speaker 1: Thompson goes farm by farm, looking for any suspicious cars, trucks,
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  Speaker 1: or people. But each location leads to a new dead end.
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  Speaker 1: Either the assailants left town, or he's very good at
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  Speaker 1: covering his tracks.
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  Speaker 3: If we're going to start with a tire track, we've
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  Speaker 3: got to ask the question, am I looking for a
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  Speaker 3: local suspect? This is a huge county, and there are dozens,
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  Speaker 3: hundreds of cars. If it's somebody who drove through, all
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  Speaker 3: of that work could be for nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Adding to the challenge, in this small farming community, Sheriff
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  Speaker 1: Thompson has limited resources and manpower. The properties are spread
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  Speaker 1: out over acres. Covering every inch is nearly impossible.
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  Speaker 3: In any murder investigation, you're asking a question. Is this
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  Speaker 3: a single event or is this a connected series of events?
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  Speaker 3: Is this part of a series of murders or just
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  Speaker 3: one particular murder? If it's part of a series, you're
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  Speaker 3: trying to ask yourself the question, what's driving the killer?
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  Speaker 1: What the sheriff doesn't know is that right here in
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  Speaker 1: once peaceful Plainfield, a place of honest labor and holy worship,
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  Speaker 1: a deviant mind is committing acts even more twisted than murder.
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  Speaker 1: Under cover of darkness, the predator stalks not only the living,
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  Speaker 1: but the dead in local cemeteries. Armed with a shovel
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  Speaker 1: and lantern, This deviant mind is searching for something inside
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  Speaker 1: human graves. Digging up a freshly buried coffin, he opens
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  Speaker 1: the lid, takes what he needs, then fills the hole again,
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  Speaker 1: leaving no sign that anything ever happened, and he does
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  Speaker 1: it over and over. The most chilling part, this thief
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  Speaker 1: isn't looking for hidden treasure. He wants the corpses themselves,
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  Speaker 1: especially the females.
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  Speaker 3: Every theft scene has a target, something that the suspect
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  Speaker 3: is interested in, which is why the theft is occurring.
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  Speaker 3: In grave robbing, you have to ask the question, what
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  Speaker 3: is being targeted here?
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  Speaker 4: Is it property?
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  Speaker 1: Is it jewelry?
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  Speaker 2: Is it clothing?
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  Speaker 4: Or is it something more sinister?
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  Speaker 3: Is it the actual body that's in the grave? In
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  Speaker 3: this particular case, it doesn't appear that property is the target.
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  Speaker 4: Instead, it's the bodies.
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  Speaker 1: He's a selective thief. He's stolen whole bodies before. But sometimes,
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  Speaker 1: he takes just an arm, a leg, or even a head.
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  Speaker 1: What macabre purpose could all these dead bodies possibly serve?
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  Speaker 2: Digging up corpses suggests some kind of paraphilic behavior, whether
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  Speaker 2: it's necrophilia, having sex with the bodies, whether it's voyeurism,
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  Speaker 2: wanting to look at the dead bodies. In this case,
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  Speaker 2: the bodies that were being dug up were basically middle-aged
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  Speaker 2: women So we've got a certain type of individual that's
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: being dug up.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: These nightly activities have gone unnoticed for years. The thief
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: only visits fresh graves, leaving them just as he found them.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: It's an act no one could possibly believe is happening
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: in Plainfield. But things will never be the same in
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: this town ever again. Three years after the disappearance of
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Mary Hogan, Sheriff Topper Thompson has moved on, and there's
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: a new sheriff in charge. His name is Art Schley.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Schley's as baffled by Mary's case as his predecessor, but
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: all that is about to change. Late one morning, hardware
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: store owner Bernice Worden is checking inventory with her son, Frank.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: When Ed Gein shows up.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: Morning, Frank. Hi, Bernice. Morning, Ed.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: How are you today?
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, can't complain. Say, Bernice, would you... Oh, I don't know, Ed.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: The store's keeping me pretty busy these days.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Ed, we're pretty busy stocking up here.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: But you're still going deer hunting tomorrow, right, Frank?
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Crack of dawn. Couldn't miss that.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: Bernice, I need a gallon of antifreeze.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I'll come by tomorrow and get it.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: Okay, Ed, I'll make a note of that.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: See you tomorrow.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Around 4 o'clock the next day. Suchlay.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Arch, it's Frank.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: I need you to come down to the store right now.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Frank, calm down.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: What's going on?
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Sheriff Schley gets a panic phone call from Frank. He
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: asks the sheriff to rush over to the store that
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: something has happened to his mother, and he thinks he
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: knows who's responsible. Ed Gein.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I need you to get down here right now, Art.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: All right, Frank, calm down. I'll be there in a second.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Entering the store, Sheriff Schley is immediately struck by how
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: similar it looks to the Mary Hogan crime scene three
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: years earlier.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Something's wrong, Art.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Look, there's blood on the floor.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Frank tells Schley, when he got back from deer hunting,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: his mother was gone. The cash register was missing. And
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: one of the rifles for sale had a spent cartridge
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: still inside the chamber.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, it could have been a robbery.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: I don't think so. I think it was Ed Gein.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Sheriff Schley scans the scene. He sees bloody streaks on
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: the shop floor. It indicates Bernice was dragged away. But
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: this clue won't help to identify the assailant.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: In the 1950s, we don't have the technology that's available
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: to us today, the technology to collect certain forms of
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: evidence for DNA or blood typing or any other forensic comparisons.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Luckily, that's not the only clue. Look, right here. Frank
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: shows Sheriff Schley the most critical piece of evidence, a
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: sales receipt for antifreeze, the same item Gein had inquired
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: about the day before.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Bernice's son, although he's not a homicide detective, not trained
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: that way, he's got a real motivation. He's got an
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: avid interest, number one, in this kind of a crime scene,
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: but number two, this is his mom that's missing. He's
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: motivated in a way that most homicide detectives aren't.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Immediately... Sheriff Schley's mind starts racing. He reviews the evidence
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: left in the store, and a vision of the horrible
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: attack starts to take shape. With Frank out hunting all morning,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Bernice would have been all alone when Ed returned to
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Warden's hardware store.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Hi, Bernice.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Hey, Ed.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: I've got that antifreeze you wanted.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Bernice keeps rifles behind the counter for sale. All
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Ed needs to do is find a way to get
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Bernice to head and back.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Here you go. Hey, hey, hey.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Then... Almost forgot. He could make his move. Um, I
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: have to do some work on the shed today, so
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I need some four-penny nails.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: Oh, okay. I, uh, have those in back, so just
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: hang on a minute.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Slipping behind the counter... he could quickly grab an unloaded
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: rifle off the wall and quietly step back into the
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: front of the store. His next step is proof this
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: attack must have been premeditated. With no ammo on display,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: he must have brought his own cartridge. Pulling the bullet
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: from his jacket pocket, he could silently load the weapon.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: and wait for his victim to return. As Bernice made
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: her way to the front of the store, she had
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: no way to know. Ed Gein was seething with anger.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: You should have gone roller skating with me, Bernice.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Ed!
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: No!
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Schley speculates Gein could have removed the cash register to
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: disguise the true nature of his crime. The same trick
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: used before, when Mary Hogan vanished. But are the two
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: crimes truly related? And is Gein really a monster living
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: in plain sight?
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: So here we have another scene, a missing female, gunshot wound,
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: blood at the scene, the body is missing. Very interesting
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: and very distinct MO, and it's very similar to what
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: happened to Mary earlier.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: These two crimes appear to be connected.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Immediately, Sheriff Schley picks up his partner, Dan Chase, and
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: the hunt is on. The officers quickly locate Gein outside
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: a neighbor's home. They approach carefully. He could be armed
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: and dangerous.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: So as a detective, when you're approaching somebody you think
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: may be a suspect in a crime, is this guy
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: going to be armed? You've really planned these things out
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: in your mind, so as you make the approach, you're
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: making it safely and you're making it tactically. I want
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: you to slow down for a second.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: What? One of the officers asks Gein to tell him
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: where he's been all day.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: What did you do today?
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Gein says he's just been doing chores.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: And I found some wood at El Grady Ranch.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: That's when they use a common law enforcement trick to
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: get to the truth.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Why don't you start from the top again?
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: They ask Gein to repeat what he said.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: I found some wood at.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: The Smith Ranch.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: The best tactic to use if you're trying to determine
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: if someone's telling the truth is simply to have them
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: tell the same.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: Story over and over again. The O'Grady Place. Ask the
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: question from a slightly different angle.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Smith Place.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: And as you listen to the response, you're listening for
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: the slight variations.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Smith Place.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: O'Grady Ranch.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: The O'Grady Place.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Smith Place.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Would indicate that this person's not telling you the truth.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: The Smith Place.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Gein can't remember the lies he's told. His story changes.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: He's up to no good. Then... No, no, I've been framed!
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Gein's mind collapses. After years of murder and mayhem, perhaps
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: the guilt, perhaps the sheer evil must come out.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Calm down, Ed, all right?
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: What have you been framed for?
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Mrs.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Warden.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Did you say Mrs.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Warden, Ed? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's dead, isn't she?
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: At this point... Not even the police know for sure
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: what happened to Bernice. They arrest Gein on the spot
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: and take him to jail. With Gein in custody, Sheriff
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Schley and Officer Chase race to search the Gein family farm.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: There's no time to lose. This secluded property nine miles
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: from town stretches over 95 acres. And Bernice... could be anywhere.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: They begin just a short drive off the road at
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Ed Gein's very dark and forbidding home. Many of the
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: local children believe it's haunted by an evil spirit. They
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: have no idea how right they are. The officers slowly
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: move toward the building, looking for a way in.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: They can actually enter the residence if they have a
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: sense there's a possibility that somebody still alive is injured,
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: is in dire need of help.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: It's exigent circumstances.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: That's the motivation they have to actually enter the house.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: They notice a shed in the back of the home.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Schley can see the door only has a rickety latch.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: He lifts his foot up and kicks hard. You ready?
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Anytime you walk into a scene like this, you have
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: a kind of a tension between.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: Discovery and danger.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: You know, you have a sense that I'm going to
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: discover something that's powerful. It's going to make this case.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Maybe I'll even discover Bernice alive.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: That would be great.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: There's always a sense of danger, too. You don't know.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: That Ed Gein is acting alone. You don't know what's
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: gonna be in there, who's gonna be in there. You
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: could walk in and get ambushed. So as you're walking
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: into a scene like this, you're always on the edge
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: of your seat, you're always on guard.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: The officer's flashlight beams reveal trash everywhere. but what they're
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: about to see they could never imagine and will never forget.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: As Schley turns to search the corner, he feels something
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: heavy brush against him, something hanging from the ceiling. It's
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: a human body. Oh, God.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Bernice Worden, loving mother, widow, and respected business owner, hangs
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: upside down, beheaded, and split down the middle, the way
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: a deer is butchered after a hunt. Jesus. It's the
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: revolting act of a sick, perverted mind.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Oh. Oh. No matter how tough you think you are
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: as a cop, and most of us when we train
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: we think we're pretty tough about these kinds of things,
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: especially if you're working homicides, some scenes are worse than others.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: And here you have the most horrific scene, one of
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: the worst scenes.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: In the history of homicides. He reacts like probably most
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: of us would, runs out of the room and throws up.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: When you look at it, it's not a crime of passion.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: There clearly is a plan here. It's done in a
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: very methodical way. Her feet are spread apart on a bar.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: She's been hoisted up by a block and tackled. Her
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: hands have been tied to her sides. She's been essentially eviscerated,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: opened up from her sternum all the way up to
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: her pubic bone. and all of her internal organs are gone.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: And of course, we're talking about police officers who have
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: never seen anything like this. They look at Bernice and
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: they're not even sure if it's Bernice or not because
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: the corpse doesn't have a head. It's clear that he
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: had done this kind of activity before. Clearly he was
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: skilled at it.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: And Bernice isn't Ed Gein's only trophy. Inside the main home,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: his demented decorations are everywhere. Parts of bodies. Women's skulls.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: And hidden under a burlap sack, the face of Mary Hogan.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Turned into a horrifying mask.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: You're wondering, well, why would he do this? Why is
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: he collecting all of these different body parts? I mean,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: this really goes to the psychosis that Ed has.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: But Ed Gein's greatest prize is the one that truly
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: gives a glimpse into the psyche of a madman. Propped
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: up in a dusty, cluttered room, Schley finds a full-body
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: garment Gein had sewn from human skin. He wore this
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: suit to become female.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Ed has still got this fixation on his mother. At
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: some point, fairly shortly after her death, Ed is actually
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: believing that he has the power to will her back
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: to life, bring her back from the dead. And when
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: he can't do that, he essentially recreates her in himself.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: He starts putting on female skin, female breasts, actual breasts.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Starts wearing a vagina. and actually dancing around out at
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: night in the moonlight. I mean, it's a very macabre,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: kind of very creepy scene. But from a psychotic standpoint,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: what you really see is Ed trying to become his mother.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Seeing this house of horrors, Sheriff Schley comes up with
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: a possible motive in the murders of Mary Hogan and
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Bernice Worden. To Ed Gein, his mother, Augusta, was a
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: saintly figure, incorruptible and free of sin. And though Mary
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Hogan and Bernice Worden reminded him of his mother, in
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: his eyes, they were the opposite. They brought out something
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: inside him that Augusta fought all her life to suppress.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Gein's manly lust.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: I can't believe.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: You looked at that horrible girl, Cindy.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: You have to learn. He wanted these women. And this
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: urge went against everything he'd been raised to believe. It
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: drove him to insane violence.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: When his mother died, it was devastating for Ed. He
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: lost not only his very best friend, but he lost
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: his support structure. Ed, I think, essentially was socially and
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: emotionally lost at that point.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Gein's clothing made of human flesh, his bloody crimes, and
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: his childish, simpleton's grin horrify and mystify the public. How
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: could a man like this exist?
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: The psychology of Ed Gein is fascinating to me.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: What drove him to take these two victims when he did,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: years apart, and what he did in the middle of
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: all those years.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: And it's really, it seems that Ed is far.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: More fascinated with the parts he got from the murders
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: than the actual victims themselves.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Clearly, Ed is psychotic. He has serious mental health problems.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: And it's the mental illnesses. It's the way he perceived
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: his thinking patterns about his mother and his activities that
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: drives his crimes. And we can see you have an
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: individual who's digging up corpses. He's cutting out vaginas. He's
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: cutting off breasts. He's cutting off the skin. He's cutting
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: off the skull and taking off the Hair on the skull,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: he's wearing it. He's making clothing out of a woman's skin.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: This is incredibly aberrant behavior. But his crimes are driven
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: by this severe mental illness.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Sheriff Arch Lay, overcome by the atrocities he witnessed inside
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Gein's home, can't contain his anger. What are you doing?
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know. He attacks Gein in his jail cell,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: repeatedly slamming him against a wall. Hoping he can force
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Gein to confess to murder. He never does. Gein maintained
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: his innocence throughout the murder trial. In court, he claimed
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: he killed Bernice Worden by accident, that the sight of
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: blood made him faint. He couldn't recall how she came
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: to be hanging in his home. So where did he
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: get the huge array of human body parts police found
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: in his home? He says he pulled them from local graves.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: He's admitting to the police that he has engaged in
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: digging up corpses from local cemeteries. Some he took with him,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: some he returned. Some he removed body parts from. Some
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: he was skinning. But he's engaged with these dead individuals,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: all women. And it's so unusual for people because for
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: the time in 1957, the baseline of behavior isn't what
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: we have today. We don't have 24-hour, 7-day-a-week news. And
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: it was so unusual, so bizarre. That it just captured
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: the national audience.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Although he was ultimately found guilty of murder, he never
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: saw the inside of a prison cell. Labeled insane, he
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: spent the rest of his life in a mental institution.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: There are only three things that motivate any homicide. Financial greed,
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: sexual or relational lust, and the pursuit of power. But
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: there's a fourth category we have to assess, and that
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: is just crazy. There's somebody so insane that they're not
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: even motivated by anything. They're just doing it without motivation
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: because they're crazy. This is something we have to assess,
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: especially when we come to trial. Were they able to
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: make free choices, and they were driven by one of
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: these three things they could have resisted, or are they
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: just so crazy they couldn't make a free choice?
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: I think that he was very mentally disturbed, and there's
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: no question when he is... by a number of psychiatrists
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: and psychologists, that they all are in agreement that he
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: is psychotic. And they describe him as schizophrenic, which is clearly,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: I think, the case when you look at Ed Gein's history.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: I think that... the delusions that he had and perhaps
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: some of the auditory hallucinations. This severe mental illness had
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: him acting in ways that we might characterize them as evil.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: But I would say that when you're talking about psychopaths,
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: people who understand the difference between right and wrong and
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: simply choose to do wrong, that is probably an individual
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: that I would describe as more evil.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: It was an unsatisfying end for the people of Plainfield.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: With no way to strike out at Gein the man,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: they wreaked their vengeance on Gein's family home, burning it
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: to the ground. But even after he died in a
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: mental hospital 27 years after his arrest, the memory of
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: his horrible crimes lived on. Buried in his family plot,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Gein's tombstone was vandalized repeatedly. Authorities finally placed it in
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: storage for safekeeping.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Ed Gein turned life in Plainfield, Wisconsin, on its head.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Media poured in for the trials, for all the attention
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: in these very aberrant homicide cases. National attention, international attention.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: The world.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: had its eye focused on Plainfield, Wisconsin and the residents there.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: They were never going to be the same because in
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: their minds and in their hearts, they realized, can I
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: really know if there's not another Ed Gein out here,
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: someone that I know who could be doing the same thing?
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: The attention from 1957 to present day never left Plainfield, Wisconsin.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: It always has that moniker. as the city that grew
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: the monster Ed Gein, the psychotic monster that was digging
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: up graves and cutting up women and wearing women's clothing
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: and a house full of vaginas and breasts and lamps
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: and chairs made out of human skin. That community will
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: always be known for that and not for the people
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: that were in the community. And I think that was
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: very difficult for them to deal with. They never wanted
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  Speaker 2: that focus.
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  Speaker 1: But the legacy of Ed Gein will never die. He
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  Speaker 1: put a face on true horror. And the most shocking
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  Speaker 1: thing is how plain and simple that face of terror
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  Speaker 1: truly is.
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  Speaker 4: Monsters are real.
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  Speaker 3: And the scary thing is they look just like you
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  Speaker 3: and I.
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  Speaker 1: In 1959, just two years after Gein's arrest, Wisconsin native
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  Speaker 1: Robert Block published the book Psycho. In it, The main character,
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  Speaker 1: Norman Bates, obsessed with his late mother, kills victim after
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  Speaker 1: victim in the small town of Fairvale. The film adaptation
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  Speaker 1: of Block's novel is one of the most famous horror
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  Speaker 1: films of all time. And behind it all is Ed Gein.
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  Speaker 1: A man who could have gone unnoticed by the world
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  Speaker 1: if it weren't for his sick appetite for female flesh.
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  Speaker 1: and a bizarre obsession with his mother.
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  Speaker 3: In many ways, Ed Gein was a very ordinary guy.
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  Speaker 3: He lived alongside his victims for years before they became
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  Speaker 3: his victims. I think that's what's so shocking about Ed
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  Speaker 3: Gein's case, is it's horrifying to think that there's somebody
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  Speaker 3: who could be just like us, looks like us, lives with.
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  Speaker 4: Us, interacts with us. And in the end becomes a
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  Speaker 4: predator of us.
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  Speaker 3: And that's why I think Ed Gein has lived on
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  Speaker 3: in infamy as the face of evil.
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  Speaker 1: Two bloody murders, a grave robber that steals human bodies,
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  Speaker 1: and a suit sewn from female flesh. These things shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be real, but they are. It's the true story of
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  Speaker 1: Ed Gein, a psycho, the ghoul of Plainfield, behind the Screams.