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Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone 02-19-26 Hour 1 · Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Warning! The Root! The Root!
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  Speaker 2: This is Wayne Allen Root, direct from the entertainment capital
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  Speaker 2: of the world, Las Vegas. What time is it?
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  Speaker 1: It's time for War! War!
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  Speaker 2: Here's your host, 100% raw truth, 100% American made, the warrior,
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  Speaker 2: Wayne Allen Root.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Wayne Allyn Root, the Root, the Root, the
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  Speaker 1: Root is exhausted. Welcome to the show. You know you're
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  Speaker 1: in trouble when you're exhausted before you've said one word,
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  Speaker 1: before the show even begins, but it has been a
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  Speaker 1: really busy day, an eventful day. You have no idea
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  Speaker 1: the work I do behind the scenes before a show
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  Speaker 1: even begins. By the time it's 3 o'clock in the afternoon,
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  Speaker 1: Vegas time, 5 o'clock, excuse me, 6 o'clock East Coast time,
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  Speaker 1: I am in a state of exhaustion, and today's one
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  Speaker 1: of those days. And when the show is over, the
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  Speaker 1: second it's over, I'm rushing to a gala ball at
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  Speaker 1: the Four Seasons Hotel in Las Vegas for the Vegas Symphony.
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  Speaker 1: So my day is just beginning. Just beginning. So if
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  Speaker 1: you tuned in yesterday and you heard my commentary, I
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  Speaker 1: said that Trump is not only not unpopular, he is popular.
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  Speaker 1: He's at 50% approval in all the polls that matter.
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  Speaker 1: And 50% is enough to win any presidential election. And
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  Speaker 1: sure enough, sure enough, guess what happens? One of 2024's
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  Speaker 1: most accurate pollsters. today puts Trump at 50% approval, the
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  Speaker 1: same number that won him the presidential election. He won
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  Speaker 1: it basically 50 to 48, and that's exactly where he
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  Speaker 1: is right now. Insider Advantage, one of 2024's most accurate pollsters,
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  Speaker 1: puts Trump's current approval rating at 50%, a national survey
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  Speaker 1: of 800 likely voters. Again, I don't trust any poll
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't poll likely voters, and these guys are accurate
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  Speaker 1: because they poll likely voters. If you don't say you're
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  Speaker 1: a likely voter, that means the odds are you're probably
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  Speaker 1: not going to show up and vote. So this was
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  Speaker 1: conducted February 17th to 18th and shows Donald Trump's. Approval
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  Speaker 1: rating basically mirroring or slightly above the national popular vote
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  Speaker 1: result in the election of 2024. Right? His disapproval is 46.
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  Speaker 1: I said 50 to 48 was the basic final score
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  Speaker 1: of the presidential election of 2024. He's actually at 50-46. Better.
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  Speaker 1: Two points better. He won the election by two points popular.
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  Speaker 1: Now he's ahead by four points popular. So... Insider Advantage
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  Speaker 1: pollster Matt Towery explains the discrepancy between his polls and
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  Speaker 1: polls showing Trump's approval at like 40%. He says there
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  Speaker 1: are clearly two camps of pollsters. Yeah, right. One camp
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  Speaker 1: is honest and one camp is a bunch of freaking
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  Speaker 1: liars who oversample Democrats and don't sample likely voters. They
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  Speaker 1: sample anyone who's walking in the street with a pulse.
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  Speaker 1: So there are two camps of pollsters, he says, utilize
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  Speaker 1: different methods of data collection and weighing in their approval ratings.
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  Speaker 1: But I would note that the firms that most accurately
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  Speaker 1: poll Trump's three elections use similar methodologies. This includes Rasmussen,
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  Speaker 1: which currently has Trump at 48% approval. As far as
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  Speaker 1: insider vantage goes, Will the pollster not conduct any national
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  Speaker 1: polls during the 2024 presidential election? The firm was dead
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  Speaker 1: on in the five most hotly contested swing states. That's
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  Speaker 1: where I know them. That's where I know them from.
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  Speaker 1: They don't do national polling. They do swing state polling. Right.
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  Speaker 1: In Wisconsin, Insider Advantage said Trump would win by one point.
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  Speaker 1: He won by one point. In Pennsylvania, they said he
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  Speaker 1: would win by one point. He won by 1.7 points.
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  Speaker 1: In Michigan, they predicted a tie. He won by one point.
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  Speaker 1: In North Carolina, they predicted a two-point victory. He won
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  Speaker 1: by three. Insider Advantage predicted a three-point Arizona victory for Trump.
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  Speaker 1: He won by 5.5. So you can see, if anything,
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  Speaker 1: Insider Advantage methodology is a bit short. Right? The Postal
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  Speaker 1: predicted a tie in Nevada. Trump won by three in Nevada.
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  Speaker 1: So if they're saying he's 50-46 approval, he's actually probably
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  Speaker 1: three points higher. So he's probably 52 or 53 and
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  Speaker 1: only like 42 or 43. He's got a big lead.
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  Speaker 1: And the reason why is because the economy is doing
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  Speaker 1: much better. All these people complain about inflation. You're not wrong.
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  Speaker 1: But that's not Trump's fault. It's got nothing to do
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  Speaker 1: with Trump. That's Biden inflation. And Trump's job was to
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  Speaker 1: stop the rate of increase, which he has done miraculously
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  Speaker 1: while imposing massive tariffs. It's an impossible magic act. He
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  Speaker 1: pulled a rabbit out of a hat and he did it.
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  Speaker 1: But he can't make the prices go in reverse. OK,
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  Speaker 1: that would be called deflation. You could only get that
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  Speaker 1: if we're in a Great Depression. You could only achieve
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  Speaker 1: that if the president was a Biden or Kamala. A
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  Speaker 1: Great Depression. Does anybody want a Great Depression? So your
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  Speaker 1: prices will go down, but you don't have a job.
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  Speaker 1: You're homeless, but a bottle of milk costs $ 3 less. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: but your income is zero. Trump's war room assesses the midterms.
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  Speaker 1: It's the economy, stupid. If Republicans lose the House or Senate,
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  Speaker 1: Trump's second term agenda will be stopped. Dead in its tracks,
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  Speaker 1: that reality brought Trump down. Administration officials, pollsters, and House
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  Speaker 1: Republicans together Tuesday night on Capitol Hill for a closed-door
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  Speaker 1: strategy session with one goal, don't blow it. Journalist Mark
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  Speaker 1: Halperin posted the details on X. And what emerged was
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  Speaker 1: a picture of a party that knows exactly what's at stake.
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  Speaker 1: Whether they understand how to win, that's another story. But
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  Speaker 1: political czar James Blair opened with historical data. Making the
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  Speaker 1: case that midterm losses for the president's party aren't just common,
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  Speaker 1: they're nearly inevitable. Decades of precedent suggest the party in
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  Speaker 1: power will lose seats. The lone exception of the past
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  Speaker 1: 25 years was the 2002 midterms when Republicans gained seats
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  Speaker 1: in the House and Senate while Bush was still president.
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  Speaker 1: But that was no ordinary election. It was the first
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  Speaker 1: midterm after the 9-11 terror attacks. Blair walked through the
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  Speaker 1: numbers and how rare it is for a sitting president's
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  Speaker 1: party to avoid significant seat losses, framing the whole operation
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  Speaker 1: as a race against historical precedent. Pollster strategist Tony Fabrizio
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  Speaker 1: followed with roughly 25 slides of voter data, including demographics,
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  Speaker 1: issue rankings and which messages cut through the noise. His
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  Speaker 1: bottom line was blunt. The economy will be the issue
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  Speaker 1: in the election. It's all that matters. Trying to argue
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  Speaker 1: about wages being up will not help. Voters have to
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  Speaker 1: feel it. He found that the messages that actually resonate
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  Speaker 1: with persuadable voters include banning stock trading for members of Congress,
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  Speaker 1: transparency on health insurance pricing and claims reimbursement, lowering prescription
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  Speaker 1: drug costs, and Trump's tax cuts. Housing affordability also a
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  Speaker 1: huge issue. Meanwhile, taking credit for closing the border, one
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  Speaker 1: of Trump's strongest issues, does not resonate much. I find
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  Speaker 1: that interesting. Fabrizio told the audience the biggest takeaway is
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  Speaker 1: to focus on Trump's efforts to lower prescription drug pricing.
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  Speaker 1: Democrats are running on the we hate Trump argument and
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  Speaker 1: virtually nothing else. They have no ideas, nothing, not a
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  Speaker 1: single idea that would ever help America. So the most
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  Speaker 1: persuadable voters are men, moderates, true independents and Hispanic voters.
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  Speaker 1: And then came the most candid moment of the briefing.
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  Speaker 1: Blair acknowledged outright, regardless of what came out of the meeting,
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump will do what Donald Trump wants to do,
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  Speaker 1: say what Donald Trump wants to say, and not be data-driven.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone else has to stay on message and be driven
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  Speaker 1: by the data. In effect, two separate but related campaigns.
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  Speaker 1: But the good news is that voters don't pay attention
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  Speaker 1: to Labor Day anymore. And you know what my belief is?
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  Speaker 1: By Labor Day, you're going to have a roaring, roaring
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  Speaker 1: economy thanks to President Trump. A couple of sports stories
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  Speaker 1: I want to get into in this first segment real quick.
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  Speaker 1: The United States hockey team won today. NHL star Quinn
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  Speaker 1: Hughes scored a goal in overtime against Sweden, securing 2-1
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  Speaker 1: victory for the U.S. to keep us in the running
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  Speaker 1: for a possible gold medal. And following the heroic moment,
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  Speaker 1: Hughes expressed national pride upon hearing chants of USA, USA,
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  Speaker 1: and people waving American flags. He said, it's special. I
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  Speaker 1: love the US. It's the greatest country in the world.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm happy to represent here with these guys. It
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  Speaker 1: was very special. So very cool. The hockey players are
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  Speaker 1: always conservative.
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  Speaker 2: Why?
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  Speaker 1: They're white. There's nothing racist to admit. White people lean
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  Speaker 1: towards white. not even lead, overwhelmingly are conservative and Republican
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  Speaker 1: and MAGA patriots. And everybody else is the problem. We
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  Speaker 1: gotta convince them to come over to our side. That's
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  Speaker 1: not racism, that's fact. White males are overwhelmingly Trump MAGA
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  Speaker 1: conservatives And that's why football is overwhelmingly liberal, basketball liberal,
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  Speaker 1: baseball liberal, a lot of Hispanic and black liberal, and
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  Speaker 1: hockey overwhelmingly patriotic, MAGA, conservative Trumpers. Chicago Bears committed to
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  Speaker 1: Indiana movies. How about that one? So good old Governor
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  Speaker 1: Pritzker of Michigan, excuse me, of Illinois, is a fat pig,
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  Speaker 1: and he's so busy eating all day, he doesn't really
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  Speaker 1: focus on anything else except saving illegal aliens. Food and
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  Speaker 1: saving illegal aliens. Stuffing his mouth And saving and protecting
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  Speaker 1: and defending illegal aliens. And not giving a damn about
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  Speaker 1: the average citizen. And he's not watching. And Chicago Bears
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  Speaker 1: are committed to moving to Indiana. Moving the team from
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  Speaker 1: downtown Chicago to a spot in northwest Indiana an hour
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  Speaker 1: from Chicago. And it's moving in a serious direction. So
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  Speaker 1: that's what happens when you F around and you find out, right?
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  Speaker 1: That's Trump's favorite saying. The biggest news story today was certainly... Andrew,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the former Prince Andrew, the younger brother of
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  Speaker 1: King Charles of England, was arrested today, all involving the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein charges and, you know, child sex and pedophilia. And
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  Speaker 1: who did he have sex with and what did he do?
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  Speaker 1: How did he misrepresent England while representing the country? Never
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  Speaker 1: did you think you'd see Prince Andrew again. being arrested, right,
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  Speaker 1: in handcuffs and being taken to the police station. And
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  Speaker 1: British King Charles reacts to the arrest of his younger
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  Speaker 1: brother for suspicion of misconduct in public office because his
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  Speaker 1: Epstein ties and he says the law must take its course.
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  Speaker 1: Is that really what's happening? Is he not going to
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  Speaker 1: put his finger on the scale and try and save
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  Speaker 1: his brother? I don't know. It sounds like he's pulling
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  Speaker 1: away from his brother and he wants nothing to do
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  Speaker 1: with him because your brother can cheat and steal and
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  Speaker 1: rip off the public like every other politician does. The
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  Speaker 1: one thing you can't get away with is having sex
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  Speaker 1: with underage girls. So I think King Charles had enough
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  Speaker 1: of Andrew. Andrew's going bye-bye. Prison. All right, it's Wade
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  Speaker 1: Allyn Root. I'm joined now by Kip Herridge, an economic expert,
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  Speaker 1: my personal financial advisor for the last 22 years, CEO
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  Speaker 1: of Vertical Research Advisory, his website, vrainsider.com. Kip, the VRA
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  Speaker 1: ended 2025 with gains of 35% and has now beaten
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  Speaker 1: the market 19 of the last 22 years. That means
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  Speaker 1: you're beating the market almost 90% of the time. It's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Tell my fans, how do you do it?
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, great to be back on. You know, my story,
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  Speaker 3: as you know, is Wall Street, 15 years, took seven
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  Speaker 3: companies public, raised several hundred million dollars. And I retired
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  Speaker 3: at the age of 38, came back to Texas where
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  Speaker 3: I live with my family.
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  Speaker 1: We're a family business.
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  Speaker 3: I started the VRA in 2003. My wife, both our
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  Speaker 3: sons work here. And instead of taking your money and
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  Speaker 3: investing it for you, we're not a brokerage firm. We're
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  Speaker 3: an investment newsletter. We tell you what we're doing with
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  Speaker 3: our money so you can do what you want to
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  Speaker 3: with yours. And again, we've beaten the market 19, 22 years.
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  Speaker 1: We're very proud of that.
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  Speaker 3: And we're looking for a very, very big year this
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  Speaker 3: year in 2026.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you believe this structural bull market that we're
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  Speaker 1: in is just getting started?
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  Speaker 3: You've got to understand, a structural bull market is the
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  Speaker 3: strongest bull market you can possibly have. It's being driven
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  Speaker 3: by fundamentals, and that's what we have here. We also
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  Speaker 3: have the combination of what we call our big three,
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  Speaker 3: the Trump economic miracle, Trump's tax cuts, deregulation, and tariffs,
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  Speaker 3: combined with the innovation revolution, which is just getting started.
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  Speaker 1: It's much, much more than just AI.
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  Speaker 3: This is innovation like we've not seen in the last
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  Speaker 3: 100 years combined. And it's going to change everyone's lives
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  Speaker 3: dramatically for the better, we believe. And it can create
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  Speaker 3: millions of more jobs than most people believe. And third,
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  Speaker 3: it's this absolute ocean of liquidity that exists out there.
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  Speaker 3: Very few people talking about this. $ 22 trillion in the
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  Speaker 3: M2 money supply, $ 7 trillion sitting in cash and money markets,
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  Speaker 3: $ 40 trillion sitting in home equity. We just need lower
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  Speaker 3: rates to loosen that up. We think Trump's going to
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  Speaker 3: bring all that home to us this year. And it's
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  Speaker 3: going to have the market soaring for a number of years.
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  Speaker 1: You have made me a fortune. You're brilliant. You're a genius.
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  Speaker 1: What makes you so different?
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  Speaker 3: In our second letter in 2003, I recommended gold at $ 3. 50,
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  Speaker 3: silver at $ 5 an ounce. We're now up over 1,200 percent,
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  Speaker 3: actually 1,800 percent in silver in the recommendation. What makes
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  Speaker 3: you unique there is the reason people should save in gold.
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  Speaker 1: And we tell you to get.
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  Speaker 3: Your money out of fiat currencies, get your money out
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  Speaker 3: of bank accounts. It's being printed into a Bolivian, saving gold.
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  Speaker 3: If you've done that since we recommended 2003, your $ 100, 000
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  Speaker 3: investor will be worth $ 1. 6 million versus the less than $ 100, 000.
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  Speaker 1: You'd have in bank accounts.
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  Speaker 3: Gold and silver, the miners especially, and the future, of course,
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  Speaker 3: of Bitcoin, that's a powerful combination, we believe, for the
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  Speaker 3: next four or five years.
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  Speaker 1: VRAinsider.com. Go there now. Kip Herridge, thank you for all
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  Speaker 1: you've done. All right, Wayne Allyn Root, let me mention
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  Speaker 1: the Clark County Republican Party Lincoln Day Dinner. That's coming
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  Speaker 1: up a week from tomorrow. Wow. When they asked me
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  Speaker 1: to be the emcee of the entire event, that was
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  Speaker 1: like two months ago. It is going, time is just
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  Speaker 1: moving so fast. It's amazing. I can't believe it's almost March.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost spring. And then it's going to be summer.
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  Speaker 1: I've got to start planning my summer vacations now. If
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  Speaker 1: you don't book, there's not going to be anything available
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  Speaker 1: in July. I've got to start doing that. Wow. Every
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  Speaker 1: year I promise myself I'll do that in January. And
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  Speaker 1: my worst case is February. And then I never book
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  Speaker 1: until March or April. There's nothing left. But it's just
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  Speaker 1: too much to do in a day. Lincoln Day Dinner,
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  Speaker 1: Republican Party, Clark County Republican Party. Lincoln Day Dinner only
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  Speaker 1: happens once a year. It is rooted in Lincoln's legacy,
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  Speaker 1: united for the battle ahead. This is the big one
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  Speaker 1: before the midterms, and it'll be the last one before
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  Speaker 1: the midterms, the biggest dinner of the year for Republicans.
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  Speaker 1: And Wayne Allyn Root is your emcee of the evening.
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  Speaker 1: I got my friend Kevin Sorbo to be the keynote speaker,
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  Speaker 1: former star of Hercules, the biggest syndicated series in the
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  Speaker 1: history of America, I think in the history of the world. Also,
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  Speaker 1: Joe Lombardo, the governor, Anthony Stavros, the lieutenant governor. And
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  Speaker 1: some mystery guest of the White House. They're arranging someone
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  Speaker 1: big from the White House to be there as well.
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  Speaker 1: Can't wait to introduce all these greats from the Nevada
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  Speaker 1: Republican Party and all of you. So make sure you
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  Speaker 1: go there. How do you buy a ticket? Go to ClarkCountyRepublicanParty.com. ClarkCountyRepublicanParty.com
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  Speaker 1: and get a ticket to the Lincoln Day Gala. All right,
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  Speaker 1: and the next day, by the way, is the Nye
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  Speaker 1: County Lincoln Day Dinner. I'm the keynote speaker. Nye County
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  Speaker 1: is Pahrump, Nevada, about an hour outside of Las Vegas,
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  Speaker 1: a county filled with great Republicans, very Republican county, and
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  Speaker 1: very proud to be the emcee of that one. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure you can go to Nye County Republican Party and
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  Speaker 1: get your Lincoln Day Dinner ticket there as well. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Trump is delivering. I wish I could, I gotta find
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  Speaker 1: the article. Trump is delivering because it was great tariff
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  Speaker 1: news today, but I did not put my articles in
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  Speaker 1: order because I was in such a rush before the show.
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  Speaker 1: I never had a chance, but just take it from me.
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  Speaker 1: The tariff numbers were really, really, here it is, really good.
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  Speaker 1: Trump effect, trade deficit, excuse me, the tariff numbers, the
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  Speaker 1: trade deficit numbers I meant to say. The trade deficit
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  Speaker 1: narrows as the Trump tariffs reshape global commerce, U.S. trade
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  Speaker 1: deficit narrows. narrowed sharply in the fourth quarter, suggesting that
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  Speaker 1: President Trump's tariffs may be rebalancing trade all over the
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  Speaker 1: world by opening foreign markets to U.S. exports and reducing
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  Speaker 1: dependence on imports. Who doesn't want that? Only if you're
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  Speaker 1: a globalist loser who hates America would you not want that.
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  Speaker 1: The three-month average goods deficit fell to $ 80. 5 billion in
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  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, down 27% from $ 109 billion in the
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  Speaker 1: same period. A year older, the combined goods and services
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  Speaker 1: deficit dropped even more sharply, falling about 40% to $ 50
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  Speaker 1: billion from $ 83 billion in the fourth quarter of 2024,
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  Speaker 1: which was Biden's fourth quarter. Average exports climbed $ 22 billion,
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  Speaker 1: so we're selling stuff all over the world. At a
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  Speaker 1: much higher pace. Average imports declined 10 billion. Compared to
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  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of 2024. Everything is good. All the
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  Speaker 1: numbers are good. We're selling more to the world. And
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  Speaker 1: we're buying less from China. And the trade deficit is
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  Speaker 1: down sharply. My gosh. How could anyone think that's bad news?
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  Speaker 1: And just as that's happening. Trump is about to give,
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  Speaker 1: it's the worst known secret, worst kept secret in America today.
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  Speaker 1: Trump is going to give a speech and they say
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  Speaker 1: it's in July. Why he's waiting until July, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: But he's going to give a speech letting us know
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  Speaker 1: that there are UFOs in the world and that we've
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  Speaker 1: captured them and we have them in certain bases. that
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  Speaker 1: there really are unidentified flying objects. There really are, I guess,
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  Speaker 1: Martians out there, Venusians out there, whatever the heck it is.
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• 24:26
  Speaker 1: a senior editor at Epoch Times, author of Killed to Order.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: That's his new book, Killed to Order, China's Organ Harvesting
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  Speaker 1: Industry and the True Nature of America's Biggest Adversary. Jan,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: welcome to the show. How are you?
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: I'm fantastic, and I don't know if I should say Wayne,
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: Wayne Allen, or Roar.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, just Wayne, just Wayne. No, Wayne's good. I only
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: say Wayne. I use Allen just because it spells out
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: my initials, Roar. But I'm just Wayne, and am I
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: pronouncing your last name right? Is it Yuckalack? Yuckalack?
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: I'd say you're top five percentile there on that one.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Close enough, close enough. All right, and it's Yan, right, Yan? Correct. Okay, good.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so your book is called Kill to Order,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: China's Organ Harvesting Industry and the True Nature of America's
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Biggest Adversary. I had a great guest on yesterday, Casey Fleming,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: who's got a new book out talking about how vicious
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: and horrible China is and how they want to kill
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: us all. And I assume you're an expert who studied
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: them and you feel the same way. This is a vicious, cunning, violent,
• 25:26
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  Speaker 1: I think, you tell me.
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  Speaker 4: Well, here's the deal, right? We're looking at a regime
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: that is probably the most vicious in the history of
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: the world, quite possibly. OK, but we're also looking at
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: a people who are themselves the subjects of being exploited
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: by that regime. So when we're talking about forced organ harvesting,
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: this is kind of not your garden variety organ trafficking
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: situation that you might have heard in urban legends. This
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: is the sort of thing where you have a state
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: power that can push mass propaganda through a system, right?
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: It can incarcerate huge amounts of people. This is, in fact,
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: what they did with Falun Gong practitioners back in 1999.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: There were 70 to 100 million people doing this grassroots,
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: bottom-up health and spiritual discipline, truthfulness, compassion, tolerance. They were
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: practicing that. And they found 70 to 100 million, by
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: government estimate, people were doing it by the end of
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: the 90s, bigger than the Communist Party. And communists don't
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: like things that are bigger than the Communist Party. So
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: they decided to crush it, to eradicate it, to use
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: the words of the dictator. They demonized, dehumanized these people
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: through propaganda not that different from Germany in the 1930s,
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: for example, against the Jews. And then they incarcerated, say,
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: a million, maybe more. We don't know the exact numbers,
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: but a huge amount of people. And that's when ads
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: started appearing on the Chinese Internet. And we still have
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: some of these archived that would say, you can get
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: a new heart if you have the right amount of cash, say, $ 150, 000
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: or something like this. In two weeks. And the reason
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: that you could do that is because these people who
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: had been incarcerated had been blood typed, tissue typed, organs
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: scanned in many cases. Those information were put into a database,
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: and these people were basically ready to be killed to
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: order once someone paid that money because they were already
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: pre-matched and incarcerated and then killed on demand. This is
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: a whole different level.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we have bad things happening in the United States,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: and there are some bad people in government. And certainly
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: under Biden and Obama, there were some really bad people.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: They used the IRS to try and destroy my life.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: But but in the end, nobody is like knocking on
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: your door in the middle of the night, thank God,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: and take you away never to return and then harvesting
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: your organs. So it's still not Cuba. It's still not China.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: It's still not East Germany. America has a ways to go,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: although I have no doubt that the left. kind of
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: mirrors these people and will someday try and be that bad.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Maybe some version of that, but that's pretty darn bad.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: That's about as bad as you get. They took daddy
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: away and then they took his heart and his liver
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: and gave it to somebody else and buried daddy. We
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: never saw him again. I'm sure in between they torture
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: these people too, right? I got to assume while they're,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: before you take their heart, they're getting tortured.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: Well, so what's really interesting, there's a man— one of the heroes, actually,
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: of doing the research on this whole thing is a
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: man named Matthew Robertson. He just recently published a Ph.D.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: thesis where he coins this term extractive repression, OK? And
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: what we're talking about, there's just kind of multiple purposes
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: going on here. On the one hand, there's this industry,
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: industrial scale. I mean, we're talking about 60,000 to 90,000
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: transplants from prisoners of conscience annually. So it's huge, huge scale.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: And of course, we estimate that's about a $ 9 billion
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: a year industry. So that's one part. But the other
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: part was the powers that be were very committed to
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: trying to destroy Falun Gong. That didn't necessarily mean at
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: the beginning to kill everybody or something like that. It
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: meant They have to break them. They have to, you know,
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: force them to renounce their faith. But because this was
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: such a bottom-up grassroots movement, if you will, a lot of,
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: let's say, internal agency for everyone that was actually practicing it,
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: it turned out these people are very, very difficult to reeducate,
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: very difficult to get them to renounce their beliefs. And
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: that's when this unwritten rule came into the system that
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: all Falun Gong deaths will be considered suicides, right? So basically,
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: we can work on these people in whatever way. And
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: this is what was weird. A number of the people
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: who actually survived these camps that we interviewed would say
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: things like, on the one hand, we're being tortured. On
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: the other hand, they're giving us and they didn't fully
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: understand what was really going on, but they're giving us
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: a lot of medical tests. You know, the people that
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: were actually kind of studying this were like, this is
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: these are expensive medical tests. It makes no sense. They're
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: clearly not to make sure that they're OK.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Because they're being tortured on one hand.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: On the other hand, there's some sort of gathering of
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: information and testing being done that really would never be
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: done to someone who just happens to be in a
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: prison incarcerated.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, because we want your heart. I mean, I hate
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: to laugh, but sometimes you just have to laugh to
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: keep from crying. It's such horrible stuff.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: You know, 100%, you're exactly right. It's very hard to
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: deal with emotionally because this is next level, right?
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's terrible. By the way, the thing that gets
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: me the worst, not to do with China, but I'm
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: an animal lover, right? I just love dogs so much.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I love my dog. And I have a golden doodle, right?
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: And somebody left a golden doodle at the Vegas airport.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw that, Jan. It's become
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: the biggest national story. They were getting on an airplane
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: and they just tied their dog to the luggage rack
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: and tried to get on the plane and abandoned their dog.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: And they were arrested. Thank God the Vegas police are
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: very pro-dog, pro-animal. And they don't take this stuff lightly.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: And they arrested this woman. And then she got violent
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: with them. So they arrested her for attacking a cop.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: And then she just abandoned the dog because she had
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: 10 days to pick it up again. She never came
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: to get it. And now there are thousands of people
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: calling from all over the United States. to adopt this dog,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: and only one person can get it. They've got thousands
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: of phone calls from every state. It's just so funny
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: the difference between America and China. In America, we all
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: cry over a dog that's been left behind. In China,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: they torture people, they murder people, they harvest organs. And they,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I'm sure, kill dogs and eat them, right? In the
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: wet markets. So it's like this different, this dichotomy, this
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: different world. We are such nice people by nature that
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: we cry over a dog left behind and they would
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: eat the dog, right?
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: Well, it's a bit worse even, I would say. Like
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: there might in some cultures, for example, in Vietnam, eating
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: dogs is something that's, you know, just something that was
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: done for some time, right? But we're talking about a
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: level of cruelty that we're not familiar with.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: And that comes from.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: This very twisted approach of utilitarianism that is manifest in
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: every communist society that has ever existed. It's basically kind
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: of a replacement of God by the state. And I
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: actually cover this quite a bit in Killed to Order
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: because it's an important part of the story, right? How
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: is it that you get this extreme situation, a killed
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: to order mass scale industry? Well, you get it because
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: it's actually systemic. And the Communist Party takes the supreme
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: role and everyone is expected to be subservient to it,
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: replacing that sort of external judge, if you will, that
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: God would take the role of.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: It sure does seem, you know, look, we can't prove
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: there's a God. People who are atheists want me to
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: prove it. I can't prove it. But people I know,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: including me, who believe in God are just happier and nicer.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: and more moral and better people. And our country that's
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: very Judeo-Christian is the nicest country in world history. We've
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: died in Iraq and Afghanistan to save them. We got
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: nothing out of it. We died in World War II
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: to save the Jews. We got nothing out of it.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: We just wanted to save the Jews. We are a
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: good country. Hey, Jan, we'll be right back. I want
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: to grab you for another segment, okay? So don't go anywhere.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Heading to a break. Wayne Allyn Root, back with the
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: senior editor at Epoch Times. All right, I'm joined by
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Steve Richards of Lost Soldier Oil & Gas. He's the
• 33:40
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• 33:51
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• 33:55
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• 34:00
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• 34:04
  Speaker 5: Mark, Wayne, thanks for having me on today. Look, we're
• 34:08
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• 34:11
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• 34:15
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• 34:18
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• 34:21
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• 34:25
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• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Why is this likely to be the last opportunity like
• 34:31
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• 34:35
  Speaker 5: Well, what's interesting about this play, and you've mentioned it before,
• 34:38
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• 34:40
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• 34:43
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• 34:47
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• 34:50
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• 34:54
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• 34:58
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• 35:00
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• 35:04
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• 35:13
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• 35:17
  Speaker 5: Well, it really does. What it does is it cuts
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• 36:15
  Speaker 5: Very simple, Wayne. Just go to LostSoldier.com and we'll get
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  Speaker 1: LostSoldier.com. LostSoldier.com. Steve Richards, president of the company. Thanks for
• 36:27
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• 36:29
  Speaker 5: Thanks for having me, Wayne.
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  Speaker 1: with Jan Jokolek, senior editor at the Epoch Times, author
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  Speaker 1: of Kill to Order. And Jan, you said there's a
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  Speaker 1: living survivor and you could tell us his story. So
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  Speaker 1: I wait with bated breath. What is his story? Tell us.
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  Speaker 4: It's kind of unbelievable that there is a survivor. I've
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  Speaker 4: been sitting in this for 20 years, basically. doing some
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  Speaker 4: of the original reporting when I first realized it was
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  Speaker 4: true and real. Cheng Pei-Ming is a man who is
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  Speaker 4: missing part of his liver, part of it regenerated since
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  Speaker 4: it was removed from his body, and part of his lung.
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  Speaker 4: And basically, he was in a prison. He was one
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  Speaker 4: of these Falun Gong practitioners that was being tortured. And
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  Speaker 4: one day, he woke up, up after having been in
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  Speaker 4: some kind of ward, and he found a 14-inch gash
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  Speaker 4: in his side. And he was feeling a lot of
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  Speaker 4: pain internally, but he didn't fully understand what had happened
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  Speaker 4: to him. and through kind of a series of events,
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  Speaker 4: which I won't disclose to you, but they're kind of shocking.
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  Speaker 4: I'm someone— my father-in-law was a Holocaust survivor. I've interviewed a
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  Speaker 4: number of Holocaust survivors, and they all have these stories where,
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  Speaker 4: you know, they almost got— faced certain death, but something happened,
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  Speaker 4: and they managed to make it, right? And that happened
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  Speaker 4: multiple times, and eventually they survived the war, right? And
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  Speaker 4: they lived to tell the tale. His story is almost— is
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  Speaker 4: a bit similar in some ways— because it's really unexpected
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  Speaker 4: that he might survive. And he only found out later
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  Speaker 4: that this forced organ harvesting was real and actually got
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  Speaker 4: scans done on his body to find that part of
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  Speaker 4: his liver and part of his lung had been taken.
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  Speaker 4: It's not even clear why part of the lung was taken,
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  Speaker 4: because the lung doesn't regenerate. And he lived to tell
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  Speaker 4: the tale, and he's living proof. And when this story
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  Speaker 4: was publicized a few years back, The Chinese regime, it
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  Speaker 4: was very rare for them to ever address anything related
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  Speaker 4: to forced organ harvesting with anything other than just pure slander,
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  Speaker 4: basically attack the messenger, because they really have nothing to
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  Speaker 4: say to it of substance. They've never provided a shred
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  Speaker 4: of evidence that would suggest this is not real, right,
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  Speaker 4: in 20 years. But in this case, they actually admitted,
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  Speaker 4: and again, shockingly, that they did the operation on him.
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  Speaker 4: They said they did it for some other reason, but
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  Speaker 4: they admitted, in effect, that they operate on him against consent,
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  Speaker 4: against his own consent, which is shocking, because it's the
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  Speaker 4: first time we've gotten that kind of admission from the regime.
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  Speaker 1: So how many people do you think there are? How
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  Speaker 1: many victims are there? Tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. How many victims are there, Bjorn?
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  Speaker 4: It's very, look, I'm going to be straight with you, okay?
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  Speaker 4: It's very hard to measure this because it's a state secret.
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  Speaker 4: And every type of measurement you do has what we
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  Speaker 4: call large error bars, right? And when we do studies
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  Speaker 4: of this nature. So the best, by best estimate, And this,
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  Speaker 4: for example— I' ll give you an example of how we measure this, right?
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  Speaker 4: There's a hospital that we did a deep study on
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  Speaker 4: in 2016. Actually, you can look it up at the
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  Speaker 4: Epoch Times, a hospital built for murder. Look up an
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  Speaker 4: article titled that. And so this was a hospital. It
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  Speaker 4: was one of the largest transplant centers in China. By
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  Speaker 4: its own admission, it was comparing itself to some large
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  Speaker 4: American transplant centers. But when you looked at their numbers,
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  Speaker 4: the number of beds, if you just looked at their
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  Speaker 4: official numbers, they looked something like a very— successful American
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  Speaker 4: transplant center, okay? But when you looked at the number
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  Speaker 4: of beds that were being used, you looked at all
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  Speaker 4: of these different measures that showed that there's actually 10
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  Speaker 4: times more transplants happening in this hospital, okay? And then
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  Speaker 4: they were actually admitting, because they didn't want to project
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  Speaker 4: numbers that would get people asking these problematic questions. You
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  Speaker 4: add that all up, you get 60,000 to 90,000 transplants
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  Speaker 4: a year annually since, let's just say, the late 2000s.
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  Speaker 4: And when you add all of that up, it could
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  Speaker 4: well be about a million people that have been harvested. But,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I'm not going to sort of stick with
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  Speaker 4: that number because.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's say it can be up to maybe close
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  Speaker 1: to a million people. Amazing. Jan, we've got to run.
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  Speaker 1: They're in my ear screaming. Jan Jukolic, senior editor at
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  Speaker 1: Epoch Times, author of the new book, Killed to Order...
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