Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / Ted Waitt And The Transcript From His Epstein Related Trip To Congress (Part 8) (7/31/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
- 0:06Speaker 1: where we left off with the Ted Waite testimony he
- 0:09Speaker 1: gave to Congress Miss Cathay, go back on the record, question,
- 0:15Speaker 1: thank you for your patients. As always, if anything we
- 0:18Speaker 1: say is repetitive, forgive us. It's difficult to hear in here,
- 0:21Speaker 1: but we're going to do our best to not repeat questions.
- 0:24Speaker 1: But thank you for your patients today. So we want
- 0:27Speaker 1: to return to something that we covered in the first hour.
- 0:30Speaker 1: And you mentioned the meeting that you estimated took place
- 0:33Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven at the home of Secretary Clinton.
- 0:36Speaker 1: Do you remember mentioning that answer? Yes. Question who was
- 0:40Speaker 1: all present at that meeting? Answer? I don't recall for sure.
- 0:42Speaker 1: I Huma Abadeen would have been there. It was a
- 0:45Speaker 1: very small group. Question And to reiterate what you stated earlier,
- 0:49Speaker 1: Secretary Clinton was present? Correct answer yes, question was President
- 0:53Speaker 1: Clinton present? Answer? No? Question you were present and Miss
- 0:57Speaker 1: Maxwell was present? Answer I believe so. Yes. Question and
- 1:01Speaker 1: what did you discuss at the meeting? Answer it was
- 1:05Speaker 1: discuss her presidential run? I believe. Question do you have
- 1:08Speaker 1: any calendar invites, emails, texts, or anything that indicates that
- 1:12Speaker 1: this meeting was scheduled or took place. Answer, not that
- 1:15Speaker 1: I know of. I don't think I have my calendar.
- 1:18Speaker 1: It doesn't go back that far, Miss Callen. We're happy
- 1:21Speaker 1: to check. Miss Cathay, great, thank you, misrespector. And you
- 1:25Speaker 1: said it was to discuss Secretary Clinton's presidential run in
- 1:29Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. Was it a meeting about donations
- 1:32Speaker 1: or was it just a political political strategy? Answer? It
- 1:35Speaker 1: was more political, you know, political strategy. I don't think
- 1:38Speaker 1: it was an explicit fundraising amount. There was not a
- 1:41Speaker 1: price tag on it or anything like that. It was
- 1:43Speaker 1: just a small group question and she was looking for
- 1:47Speaker 1: your input on political strategy or Glenn Maxwell's answer. It
- 1:51Speaker 1: was more whoever was invited to the group. It wasn't
- 1:54Speaker 1: just me, There was a number of people there. Answer.
- 1:57Speaker 1: Do you recall Glen Maxwell giving advice about political funding? Answer?
- 2:01Speaker 1: I don't recall. I don't believe so. I don't think so, no,
- 2:04Speaker 1: Miss Cathay. And do you recall were you just invited
- 2:07Speaker 1: and then you brought Glane Maxwell or did she receive
- 2:10Speaker 1: a separate invitation? Mister Waite, it probably would have been me.
- 2:15Speaker 1: I was invited and I brought her with me, Miss Cathay,
- 2:18Speaker 1: Miss Mace, if you're ready to go forward, Miss Mace,
- 2:21Speaker 1: Nancy Mace, all right, I apologize. I'm probably going to
- 2:24Speaker 1: repeat some of the questions you've already been asked. How
- 2:27Speaker 1: did you meet Glaine Maxwell? Mister Waite, I met Glaine
- 2:30Speaker 1: Maxwell in two thousand and three in Hong Kong, Miss
- 2:34Speaker 1: Mace in Hong Kong. Wait, yes, Mace, where the Clinton's there? Answer?
- 2:39Speaker 1: Bill Clinton was there? Question? All right? Was this a dinner?
- 2:43Speaker 1: Mister Waite? Yes? Question? And then how are you invited
- 2:46Speaker 1: to the dinner? Answer? I was invited to the dinner.
- 2:49Speaker 1: Happened to be traveling in business in Hong Kong and China,
- 2:52Speaker 1: and I saw Bill Clinton was in town. Question? How
- 2:55Speaker 1: are you invited to the dinner? Answer? Doug band invited me?
- 3:00Speaker 1: Question Doug Bann invited you? Answer yes? Question had you
- 3:04Speaker 1: ever been to the dinner with either of the Clintons before?
- 3:06Speaker 1: Answer yes? Question? And what was that? Answer? I don't
- 3:10Speaker 1: recall I'd been to multiple dinners with President Clinton. Miss Mace.
- 3:14Speaker 1: Why have you been invited to multiple dinners with President Clinton? Answer?
- 3:19Speaker 1: I was a large donor to the Clinton Library. Question
- 3:22Speaker 1: how much? Answer ten million? Question okay, but you weren't
- 3:26Speaker 1: a political donor? Answer no, question okay, answer not that
- 3:30Speaker 1: I can recall. I made a lot of political donations.
- 3:34Speaker 1: Question you gave one thousand and ninety six to like
- 3:36Speaker 1: a legal fund I think for Clinton Gore general election? Answer? Yes, question,
- 3:42Speaker 1: but that was it? Did you ever like email or
- 3:44Speaker 1: text or call or meet with Clinton directly? Either of
- 3:47Speaker 1: the Clintons directly? Did you ever like email communicate with
- 3:50Speaker 1: them text, phone calls directly? Answer? No, President Clinton doesn't
- 3:55Speaker 1: really do email. Most of my communications would have gone
- 3:58Speaker 1: through one of the staff members. Question it would have
- 4:01Speaker 1: gone through Doug Band. Answer at the time, Doug Band.
- 4:04Speaker 1: Question And how many times had you met with Clinton
- 4:07Speaker 1: previous to two thousand and three? Wait? I don't. I
- 4:10Speaker 1: can't give you a specific number, but I would say
- 4:12Speaker 1: a few. Question a few? What's a few? How do
- 4:15Speaker 1: you define a few? Wait? Four? Five, six, seven? Question?
- 4:20Speaker 1: And when was when was the daughter Clinton? When was
- 4:23Speaker 1: her wedding? Answer? I believe it was twenty ten? Question
- 4:27Speaker 1: twenty ten? And you were you were still dating Glenn
- 4:30Speaker 1: Maxwell at the time? Answer yes. Question and how were
- 4:34Speaker 1: you invited to the wedding. Answer, I don't recall the
- 4:37Speaker 1: exact invitation. Were you invited to the wedding Nancy maysas
- 4:42Speaker 1: answer I was invited to the wedding. Question was Glenn
- 4:45Speaker 1: Maxwell invited to the wedding? Answer I don't recall. Question
- 4:50Speaker 1: was she there as your guest? Answer? Yeah, I believe
- 4:52Speaker 1: so she came with me. I don't know if the
- 4:54Speaker 1: invite I don't have a copy of the invite if
- 4:56Speaker 1: it was to us. Question have you ever been to
- 4:58Speaker 1: the Clinton's home? Answer to the gets cut off by Mace,
- 5:04Speaker 1: private residence, personal residence, mister Waite and Chappaquah, Mace anywhere.
- 5:09Speaker 1: Answer yeah, I've been to Chappaquah. Question okay, how many
- 5:13Speaker 1: times have you been there? Wait? Two or three? Question
- 5:16Speaker 1: was Glenn Maxwell they're with you? Answer? I don't recall
- 5:19Speaker 1: her being with me. Question do you know when you
- 5:22Speaker 1: were there at their residence? What year? Answer? It was
- 5:25Speaker 1: quite a while ago. I haven't been there in quite
- 5:27Speaker 1: some time. It would have been gets cut off by Mace,
- 5:31Speaker 1: so it would have been around two thousand and three
- 5:33Speaker 1: and twenty ten. Wait probably question do you remember why
- 5:37Speaker 1: you were there? Answer? It could have been it could
- 5:40Speaker 1: have been after. I think there was one time after
- 5:42Speaker 1: twenty ten. Question do you remember why you were there?
- 5:46Speaker 1: Answer just to say hi? Question how did you get
- 5:49Speaker 1: invited to the house? Answer? A lot of times I
- 5:52Speaker 1: was in the area. I would you know Texas staff
- 5:54Speaker 1: and say I'm in the area. Does the president want
- 5:57Speaker 1: to say hi? And vice versa. Question did Glenn Maxwell
- 6:01Speaker 1: do the same thing? She would text him and see
- 6:03Speaker 1: if he was in the area? Answer? I don't know.
- 6:06Speaker 1: Question were you ever in the area with Glenn Maxwell? Answer?
- 6:10Speaker 1: She lived in New York, so Chappaqua is quite close.
- 6:13Speaker 1: It was difficult for me to be in New York
- 6:15Speaker 1: or in upstate New York. Question were you ever in
- 6:18Speaker 1: Chappaquah with Glenn Maxwell? Mister Waite, I don't recall, miss Mace.
- 6:23Speaker 1: That's convenient answer. I wish I could be more helpful.
- 6:27Speaker 1: I don't remember being there with miss Maxwell. Question how
- 6:30Speaker 1: many times do you say that you've been to the
- 6:32Speaker 1: Clinton home? Mister Waite, very few too. Question, Okay, you're
- 6:37Speaker 1: visiting the president former president of the United States and
- 6:40Speaker 1: don't know why you're there or if Glenn Maxwell, your
- 6:43Speaker 1: girlfriend was with you? Callen jumps in. I don't think
- 6:47Speaker 1: he said that she was with him, he doesn't recall. Wait,
- 6:50Speaker 1: she could have been. She definitely could have been. I'm
- 6:53Speaker 1: just not saying I recall her. I can't recall a
- 6:55Speaker 1: specific time when she was when I was there with her,
- 7:00Speaker 1: mister spector, Miss Mace, If I may just clarify for
- 7:03Speaker 1: the record for a second, the two thousand and seven
- 7:05Speaker 1: meeting that we opened the hour with, was that not
- 7:08Speaker 1: at one of Clinton's residences, mister Waite, That was at
- 7:12Speaker 1: Secretary Clinton's residence in the area, in the Washington, DC area. Specter,
- 7:17Speaker 1: So there was one meeting at a Clinton residence where
- 7:20Speaker 1: Glenn Maxwell was there. Answer that one, Yes, she was.
- 7:23Speaker 1: She was for that one, Mace. You recall that one
- 7:26Speaker 1: answer yes question, but not the other two times in Chappaquah. Answer,
- 7:31Speaker 1: I don't recall if she was with me. No, she
- 7:32Speaker 1: could have been. I'm sorry. I'm just trying to be
- 7:35Speaker 1: as exactuate as I can. Mace. Let's okay, all right?
- 7:39Speaker 1: Do you have a scheduler that schedules you? Answer? I
- 7:43Speaker 1: do not right now, I don't previous to that. I
- 7:45Speaker 1: have question back in two thousand and three to twenty
- 7:48Speaker 1: ten timeframe, would you have had a scheduler. Wait, typically yes,
- 7:53Speaker 1: question would this document still exist, like your calendar, your meetings,
- 7:57Speaker 1: et cetera. Who was there? Wait? I don't believe they do,
- 8:01Speaker 1: but I'd be happy to check to see if they do. Mace.
- 8:04Speaker 1: Would you have you put your meetings with Clinton on
- 8:07Speaker 1: your calendar? Answer? I don't know. Question Okay, answer. If
- 8:11Speaker 1: it was a formal event, it would have been on
- 8:13Speaker 1: my calendar. Question. So the dinner in Hong Kong or
- 8:16Speaker 1: whatever that was would have been on your gets cut
- 8:19Speaker 1: off by weight? That was not on my calendar. That
- 8:21Speaker 1: was a very impromptu thing, Mace, very impromptu thing. Wait.
- 8:25Speaker 1: I texted Doug band and when I saw the Clintons
- 8:29Speaker 1: were in town, and that would have not been done
- 8:31Speaker 1: through my scheduler. Mace, And I think this was asked earlier,
- 8:34Speaker 1: but I wanted to clarify. You have had a massage
- 8:37Speaker 1: that was set up by Glenn Maxwell. Have you ever
- 8:40Speaker 1: had a massage set up by Glenn Maxwell? Wait? I
- 8:43Speaker 1: believe so there was a document that said yes. Question Okay,
- 8:47Speaker 1: do you know how many times that happened? Wait? I
- 8:49Speaker 1: don't know how many times, Mace. Do you know when
- 8:52Speaker 1: this was Wait? That document was two thousand and four
- 8:55Speaker 1: I believe. Question And do you know how many times
- 8:58Speaker 1: it happened? Answer? No, question once five times, ten times
- 9:02Speaker 1: a dozen. Answer, I don't know. I get frequent therapeutic
- 9:06Speaker 1: sports massages. I never had a massage of the sexual nature.
- 9:10Speaker 1: Question where do you generally receive these massages? If Glaine
- 9:13Speaker 1: Maxwell organized massage for you, where would have it had been?
- 9:18Speaker 1: Answer this one? Do you want me to refer to
- 9:20Speaker 1: the document in general? Mace? In general? In general? I
- 9:22Speaker 1: don't recall answer or question. I don't have any documents
- 9:26Speaker 1: in front of me. Question I would typically have a
- 9:29Speaker 1: normal massuse that was a certified licensed massage therapist that
- 9:32Speaker 1: was highly qualified for a sports type massage. Question. If
- 9:36Speaker 1: you've admitted that Glaine Maxwell had organized a massage or
- 9:40Speaker 1: some massages for you, where would it have been? Wait,
- 9:44Speaker 1: she does one for me? Gets cut off by callen.
- 9:47Speaker 1: The document indicates she may have organized one massage. Wait
- 9:51Speaker 1: one massage in Florida. Mace, did you have any reason
- 9:54Speaker 1: to suspect this messuse was then a minor? Wait? No, Mace,
- 9:58Speaker 1: did they look young? Wait no, I don't remember the messuses,
- 10:02Speaker 1: but that would not have happened. Question Okay, that's all
- 10:05Speaker 1: I have for now specter if I may just follow
- 10:08Speaker 1: up on a couple of documents that were mentioned in
- 10:11Speaker 1: the last hour. Introduced in the last hour, I believe
- 10:14Speaker 1: it's a minority exhibit f the email with the subject
- 10:17Speaker 1: line WG wicked Glaine. Just to make sure the record
- 10:21Speaker 1: is clear, you, I think testified that you you know
- 10:23Speaker 1: very clearly you do not know that what she's referring
- 10:26Speaker 1: to with regard to a trip with three eighteen year olds,
- 10:30Speaker 1: it seems but your applied do tell you naughty girl?
- 10:33Speaker 1: What did you mean by naughty? Answer? I mean again,
- 10:36Speaker 1: I don't recall the specific message. This is her being
- 10:39Speaker 1: kind of funny and smart. I don't recall any situation
- 10:43Speaker 1: with three eighteen year olds, So I don't remember what
- 10:45Speaker 1: this was. Question and my apologies. I know you've had
- 10:49Speaker 1: a relationship with miss Maxwell. So was naughty more of
- 10:52Speaker 1: a sexual reference or was it a reference to some
- 10:54Speaker 1: sort of untoward thing? Answer? No, I think she Yeah,
- 10:58Speaker 1: she's saying she was wicked. Doesn't mean she did something,
- 11:01Speaker 1: you know, it's more like clever question, So you don't
- 11:04Speaker 1: think maybe you were referencing her doing something? A moral answer?
- 11:08Speaker 1: I don't read anything sexual into this. In this note.
- 11:11Speaker 1: Question but regardless of sexual otherwise a moral or illegal answer.
- 11:16Speaker 1: I don't see that in this no question, and you
- 11:19Speaker 1: don't recall knowing about any immoral cuts them off and
- 11:22Speaker 1: definitely not question. And then again minority exhibit. I believe
- 11:26Speaker 1: it's c r D is the JP Morgan statement that
- 11:29Speaker 1: reflects a seven point two million dollar deposit that was
- 11:33Speaker 1: made to Glenn Maxwell. I believe you testified that was you,
- 11:36Speaker 1: you know, essentially something that you did to ensure that
- 11:39Speaker 1: she could continue the lifestyle that she had come to have.
- 11:44Speaker 1: Is that right answer? Yeah, it was the end of
- 11:46Speaker 1: our relationship. Like I said, she was devastated. I felt bad.
- 11:50Speaker 1: Question did she communicate with you that she had financial trouble? Answer?
- 11:54Speaker 1: I don't recall her communicating financial troubles, but I don't
- 11:57Speaker 1: believe she had significant resources. Question why did you think
- 12:02Speaker 1: she didn't have the resources to continue? Because, if I may,
- 12:06Speaker 1: was the house that she was in New York she
- 12:08Speaker 1: owned that prior to dating you? Is that right answer?
- 12:11Speaker 1: She told me she did. Question, so why would she
- 12:14Speaker 1: need seven point two million to continue, you know, a
- 12:16Speaker 1: lifestyle that she had seemingly before you dated her? Answer? Yeah,
- 12:20Speaker 1: for the upkeep. I just thought it was the right
- 12:22Speaker 1: thing to do. Question. Did Miss Maxwell, did either of
- 12:25Speaker 1: you a request or go through with any form of
- 12:28Speaker 1: non disclosure agreement or any kind of agreement about disclosing
- 12:33Speaker 1: information about the other? Answer not that I know of. Question,
- 12:37Speaker 1: so she never asked you to keep anything confidential about
- 12:39Speaker 1: your relationship with her? Answer no question, Ms Cathay, Did
- 12:44Speaker 1: you mention that she owned the house prior to you
- 12:46Speaker 1: dating you and that's what she told you? Did you
- 12:49Speaker 1: have any reason to believe that was not the case,
- 12:51Speaker 1: that someone else owned the house and she stayed there.
- 12:54Speaker 1: Answer no, Specter, and I'm sorry. One last light aside.
- 12:59Speaker 1: We were talking about fundraisers and other things having to
- 13:01Speaker 1: do with the Clintons, and I just want to be clear.
- 13:04Speaker 1: Did you ever give any money to the White House
- 13:06Speaker 1: Historical Society or Association while President Clinton was President of
- 13:10Speaker 1: the United States? Wait, not that I can recall, Not
- 13:14Speaker 1: that I know of. No, mister Spector. Did you ever
- 13:17Speaker 1: attend any functions for the White House Historical Society or
- 13:20Speaker 1: Association while President Clinton was president? Mister wait, no, not
- 13:25Speaker 1: that I can recall. All Right, folks, we're going to
- 13:27Speaker 1: wrap up right here and in the next episode dealing
- 13:30Speaker 1: with the topic, we're going to pick up where we
- 13:32Speaker 1: left off. All the information that goes with this episode
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