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INTERVIEW: Tank Talks New Album ‘Experience’, The R&B Tour, Reasonable Doubt, R&B Money Podcast + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Hold up. Every day I wake up.
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  Speaker 2: Wake your ass up.
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  Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: You all finished or you all done? Yes, it's the
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  Speaker 2: world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 3: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God, Jess and Envy
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  Speaker 3: are out, but Lauren LaRosa is here. We got a
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  Speaker 3: special guest who's got a new album coming out this
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  Speaker 3: Friday called Experience.
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  Speaker 2: The R & B icon himself, Tank is here.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, my brother?
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  Speaker 1: It's all we need.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: We all we need. How are you? I don't care
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  Speaker 1: who ain't here. We all we need.
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  Speaker 5: We all we got.
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  Speaker 1: We all we got. And we going to get it done.
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  Speaker 2: You look more in shape than usual, bro. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you always look in shape, but you look like you're
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  Speaker 2: working out for something.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, man, they want to see it. I'm on that
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  Speaker 1: R & B tour stage.
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  Speaker 5: We haven't came to see you yet.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah. Them is real jumbotron.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw you out there in the rain.
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  Speaker 1: Come on now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: R & B, you got to get wet. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: You can say okay to that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: You're out there with Usher and Chris.
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  Speaker 1: Usher and Chris. Crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: What made you want to do that?
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  Speaker 1: History.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: You know, when CB said he was going to do
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  Speaker 1: the tour, I was like, it was immediate. I was like, brother,
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  Speaker 1: I don't ask you for much. I ask you for
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  Speaker 1: nothing at all. But if this is happening, I want
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  Speaker 1: to go.
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  Speaker 2: All right, all right, all right.
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  Speaker 1: And he was like, okay, all right, big bro, you
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  Speaker 1: want to, you want to, Open? How you want it?
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  Speaker 1: I said, no. Hells no. Like, you know, opening at
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  Speaker 1: a stadium is way different. People are trying to find
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  Speaker 1: their seats in this big old place. They trying to
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  Speaker 1: get their snacks and their concessions. They trying to get
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  Speaker 1: their merch all while I'm doing my best work. No, sir.
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  Speaker 1: I want to be on the main stage when the
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  Speaker 1: big lights come on. I want to sing background. He's like, what?
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  Speaker 1: I said, background. Doing your set. He's like, all right, okay, well, shit.
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  Speaker 1: Then he was like, well, what if we make all
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  Speaker 1: the background singers stars? I was like this, it'd be crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It's already the greatest R & B tour ever. It's already,
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  Speaker 1: to me, one of the greatest tours ever, but you
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  Speaker 1: add that, so now it's me, Eric, and Mario?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then when we get to rehearsal, he's like, bro,
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  Speaker 1: I can't just have y'all out here just singing backgrounds.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I need y'all to do, y'all got hits.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all need to do a few of y'all's songs, too.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, listen, if that's what you want, We'll
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  Speaker 1: do that.
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  Speaker 4: I love how that came together and the story behind it.
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  Speaker 4: Because we talked about it up here when Jacquees made
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  Speaker 4: the comment about not wanting to do it.
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  Speaker 5: And the way that he positioned it was.
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  Speaker 4: Like it devalued y'all and what y'all do because y'all
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  Speaker 4: are background.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Jacquees wasn't really throwing shots at us. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean? Jacquees was mad at Mario. And we
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  Speaker 1: just got grouped into it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he did say Mario and Tank. He was mad
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  Speaker 2: at you for other reasons.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't mad at me at all.
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  Speaker 2: I think he was mad because the whole King R &
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  Speaker 2: B debate.
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  Speaker 1: That's old. We dealt with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's
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  Speaker 1: not mad at me about that. We cleared that up. But,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think him and Mario got a little thing.
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  Speaker 1: And in order to throw a shot at Mario, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? He was like, I'll just shoot
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  Speaker 1: everybody up there. And, you know, listen. This is a
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  Speaker 1: different kind of opportunity. It's something that has never happened before.
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  Speaker 1: And If you can't see the other side of it,
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  Speaker 1: then it's hard to process what this is. Right. I
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  Speaker 1: could easily go do my own thing to the tune
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  Speaker 1: of three, five, six thousand people easily. But when am
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  Speaker 1: I ever going to get the opportunity to do what
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  Speaker 1: I do in front of 50 to 70 thousand people
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  Speaker 1: every night?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Without the pressure of, you know, me making them show up.
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  Speaker 1: They're already there. There's no pressure on me. Like Chris
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  Speaker 1: and Usher, they've guaranteed 50,000 to 70,000 people. Whatever that
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  Speaker 1: venue holds, they're going to be there. The production is
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  Speaker 1: there at a high level. Everything is there. And I
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  Speaker 1: just get to show up and do my thing and
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  Speaker 1: put my QR code up, put my album blast up,
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  Speaker 1: like all of these things that– It just makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: I get it.
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot of perks. A lot of benefit. All perks.
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  Speaker 5: I get it.
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  Speaker 1: There are no losses in this.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not like you need it. It's not like
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  Speaker 2: Tank is out here struggling.
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  Speaker 1: And even bigger, it's not like they need us.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They don't need us. These venues are sold out without me, Mario,
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  Speaker 1: and Eric. Sold out. Breezy sold them all out by
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  Speaker 1: himself last year. This isn't a need thing, right? This
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  Speaker 1: is only culture and history. That's all this is. And
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  Speaker 1: to not want to be part of that, I was
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  Speaker 1: telling my barber, and we was just contemplating when I
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  Speaker 1: was still shooting Reasonable Doubt, I was like, brother, you
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  Speaker 1: either want to watch the documentary or you want to
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  Speaker 1: be in the documentary. I'm going to be in it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care if I'm serving the food at craft services,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm carrying the bags, or if I'm helping put
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  Speaker 1: the stage together. I'm going to be in the documentary.
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  Speaker 4: Where does that, I mean, because you've always been doing well,
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  Speaker 4: always had hits that people love.
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  Speaker 5: You show up, people love you, they know you.
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  Speaker 4: But it feels like within this last year or so,
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  Speaker 4: around the Broadway stuff and Now Reasonable Doubt, you on
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  Speaker 4: this grind of like, but why?
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  Speaker 5: Because you have your tank already.
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  Speaker 1: Well, my retiring or wanting to retire when I lost
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  Speaker 1: my hearing and all that stuff during the R &
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  Speaker 1: B Money album was because there were more things that
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to do to help round out the brand,
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  Speaker 1: more things that I love. And Alicia Keys calling me
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  Speaker 1: for Broadway was the first step in being able to
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  Speaker 1: round out the brand at a high level.
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  Speaker 4: Gotcha.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? So once I got the
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  Speaker 1: Broadway thing with Alicia and then, you know, Latanya and Swiss,
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: you know, talk to Tyler Perry. And then I get
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  Speaker 1: that movie, you know, which which drops this year. with
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  Speaker 1: me and Fantasia's The Gospel Christians, I think is going
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  Speaker 1: to be the name of it. And then follow that
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  Speaker 1: up with Ramla grabbing me for a reasonable doubt. Now
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  Speaker 1: me retiring, like this is what I was trying to do,
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  Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to have enough time to
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  Speaker 1: do all these things. And now it's kind of happened
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  Speaker 1: on its own. Like, you know, be careful what you
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  Speaker 1: wish for, right? You pray for a thing and God delivers.
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  Speaker 1: And so what you've been seeing in the last two
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  Speaker 1: years is... Just God delivering. And thankfully me being ready
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  Speaker 1: for the calls.
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  Speaker 3: I do want to say one thing about Jacquees because
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  Speaker 3: he did bring up the fact he did a whole
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  Speaker 3: album with R.
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  Speaker 1: Kelly.
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  Speaker 2: And he said he never used that. He said when
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  Speaker 2: you called him out, he wanted to tell you I
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  Speaker 2: had a whole album with R. Kelly, but he just
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  Speaker 2: kept it tucked.
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  Speaker 1: What does that mean?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. He was saying the king of R &
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  Speaker 2: B stamped him as the king of R & B.
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  Speaker 2: That's what he was saying.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to do this with you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm dead serious. He was just up there.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even making this up.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not even making this up.
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  Speaker 3: He was like, Tank said, when he said he was
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  Speaker 3: the king of R & B, Tank said something to him,
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  Speaker 3: I guess in reference.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. What I said to him, Joe,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, let's make one thing clear. Jacquees is
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  Speaker 1: my guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 1: A hundred grand. Like, that's family. My statement to Jacquees
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  Speaker 1: was merely about work.
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  Speaker 6: And....
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  Speaker 1: How much work you have to put in, how long
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  Speaker 1: you got to be in this thing in order to
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  Speaker 1: call yourself a thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But then
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  Speaker 1: I digress because it's like, you know, he sees me
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  Speaker 1: as an elder. And so for him, it's like, Hey man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm shooting for the stars.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Right. And so I got to step back and say, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I got to think about the power of my voice.
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  Speaker 1: when I'm saying you're not or you're not gonna or
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  Speaker 1: when I'm interjecting negativities. And you got to be careful
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  Speaker 1: about that. You know what I'm saying? So my thing was,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I understand why he feels a way
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  Speaker 1: because he's reaching for something. And here comes the OG,
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  Speaker 1: the guy he looks up to, in front of everybody
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  Speaker 1: kind of knocking him down.
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  Speaker 2: Or providing context.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I can do it differently. Okay, okay. I
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  Speaker 1: can call him and do that.
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  Speaker 2: Because you know what?
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  Speaker 4: I feel like the King of R & B conversation that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, when everybody was having a conversation with him.
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  Speaker 5: It made people have a conversation about R & B.
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  Speaker 5: It made people have a conversation.
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  Speaker 4: Like how it be like the rap battles, I mean, whatever.
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  Speaker 4: But it's like a healthy competition.
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  Speaker 3: Why don't never work with people who actually are considered kings?
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  Speaker 2: For example, like last week or something, Usher puts the
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  Speaker 2: crown on. Yeah. And then Chris Post, he's a king.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody even has a debate about that because everybody feels
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  Speaker 2: like those two can be kings.
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  Speaker 5: But you debate between the two, who you like, who
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  Speaker 5: you don't like.
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  Speaker 4: But I feel like with Jacquees is like, Even with, like,
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  Speaker 4: the boxers, like, you come in, you going for, you
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  Speaker 4: know what I mean? You trying to get to the floor. Like, Jacquees,
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  Speaker 4: he has a fan base, and he is who he is.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't think there's nothing wrong with the way
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  Speaker 4: he postured himself. I think it made people be like, oh.
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  Speaker 5: Well, let's see.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he just made the distinction, a clear distinction, too,
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  Speaker 1: of his generation. And so if you look at his
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  Speaker 1: generation and the guys that are out in his, like,
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  Speaker 1: he's the guy in that space.
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  Speaker 4: Nah.
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  Speaker 1: Who?
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot more.
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  Speaker 1: Who?
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  Speaker 2: Leon Thomas.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a generation.
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  Speaker 5: Who's Jacquees' generation?
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  Speaker 1: Jacquees was before Leon Thomas.
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  Speaker 5: Was he Chris Brown?
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  Speaker 1: Way before Leon Thomas.
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  Speaker 4: What was B.E.D., that mixtape?
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  Speaker 1: We have to do the math on it. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Leon Thomas is fairly new.
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  Speaker 2: What about the Brent Fiaz of the world? He's before Brent.
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  Speaker 4: 2016 was B.E.D. Was that his first The Mood mixtape?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he been out here for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: He's been doing this for a minute.
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  Speaker 5: And Chris Brown kind of running it?
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  Speaker 1: Nope, not even close. Chris is before everybody, and Chris
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  Speaker 1: is another conversation. He's not even, he's not in the world.
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  Speaker 4: Jacquees' first mixtape was 2011, Round of Applause. So, what
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  Speaker 4: R & B artist?
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  Speaker 3: Miguel!
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  Speaker 2: Miguel!
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  Speaker 3: Brink Fias, Daniel Caesar, Bryson Tiller, Leon Thomas, Lucky Day Party.
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  Speaker 3: The only reason I said all those names is because
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  Speaker 3: Jacquees asked me one day.
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  Speaker 2: I had to go back and look at the text.
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  Speaker 2: He asked me one day. He said, I just want
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  Speaker 2: to see something, man. Who else from my generation?
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  Speaker 1: Blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 2: And I said, don't.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, listen. Out of all those guys, name those
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  Speaker 1: guys again.
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  Speaker 2: Miguel.
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  Speaker 1: Miguel.
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  Speaker 3: Brent Fiaz, Daniel Caesar, Bryson Tiller, Leon Thomas, Lucky Day,
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  Speaker 3: Party Next Door.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like three of those guys have real hit records.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like hot 100s. Yeah, yeah. So.
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  Speaker 2: Is that how you judge it now, though? Because I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to tell you.
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  Speaker 1: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Because you got experience coming up, but I think Masego, bro.
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  Speaker 2: Have you heard of Masego?
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  Speaker 1: Have I heard of Masego?
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  Speaker 2: But that's my point.
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  Speaker 1: Masego's incredible.
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  Speaker 2: But that's my point. He don't have the hits yet,
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  Speaker 2: but man.
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  Speaker 1: He's incredible for different reasons. I'm a musician.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: I'm a purist. So Masego appeals to me as the
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  Speaker 1: purist that I am. I'm like, that's raw. That's what
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  Speaker 1: it's supposed to be. So it's like, I think in
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: order to be what we're talking about, there has to
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: be a certain amount of gift involved, a certain amount
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  Speaker 1: of commercial success involved, a certain amount of undercurrent driving
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  Speaker 1: the thing, a certain amount of culture involved. All of
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  Speaker 1: these things matter. You can't just pick just one. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's up for debate for everybody. But
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  Speaker 1: in the case of Jacquees and him going for you know,
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  Speaker 1: a king in his space. He's supposed to do that.
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  Speaker 3: What is Tank going for? You got experience coming out
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  Speaker 3: this week. What is Tank going for nowadays in the
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: R & B space?
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  Speaker 1: I'm the general, man. So I'm always going to be
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  Speaker 1: on the front lines. Always. You know, they got guys,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they're doing the king thing and they got
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  Speaker 1: all these different names. Like, I'm boots on the ground.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going door to door with this thing. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? When we rolling out and we marching
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  Speaker 1: for R & B, I'm at the front with the bullhorn. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's all I'm going for. I'm the hardest working man
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  Speaker 1: in R & B music. That's what I'm going for.
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  Speaker 2: You mean working?
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  Speaker 1: It can have everything else. At the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: the work tells the story. And so I just keep
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  Speaker 1: my head down and I keep working and I just,
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  Speaker 1: you know, end up being blessed.
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  Speaker 5: What about sound-wise and music-wise?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the project is, I feel like the project
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  Speaker 4: sounds like Tank, but there are records on there that,
• 12:48
  Speaker 4: we were talking about that we're like more sped up,
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  Speaker 4: more faster, that people don't really know you all the
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  Speaker 4: way forward. Like you're really like more like the sensual arm.
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  Speaker 1: Well, my singles have been that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But if you listen to all of my albums, I've
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  Speaker 1: always had tempo on my albums. I just haven't led
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  Speaker 1: with it. And so now with this album, it's like
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  Speaker 1: there's more of it. You know, you get to experience,
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  Speaker 1: you know, me and Charlie Wilson and MK and Ibiza.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? You get to experience me
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  Speaker 1: and Remy Ma. You know what I'm saying? And, dabbling
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  Speaker 1: into the rick james sonic you know i'm saying like
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  Speaker 1: you get to hear me me on on a don
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  Speaker 1: tolliver slash travis scott but it's all based on my
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  Speaker 1: experience things that i actually do you know i just
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  Speaker 1: have to talk with my you know when i was
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  Speaker 1: at atlantic records i was like guys listen i'm more
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  Speaker 1: than just a piano damn i'm more than just that
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  Speaker 1: they don't know that after all these years It's like people,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes people want to invest in a thing that they
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  Speaker 1: want to invest in. And it just is what it is.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, you can't box me in. It's the
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  Speaker 1: worst thing you can do. I can do anything and
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  Speaker 1: do it well. And not because I'm trying to do it,
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  Speaker 1: but because I actually do it. I actually live in
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  Speaker 1: these spaces. I actually produce it and make it. And
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  Speaker 1: then I'm with the writers and the producers and the
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  Speaker 1: artists and all these things. I'm in it. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean? So it's not, it's not inorganic for
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  Speaker 1: me to do all of these things. So, Experience just
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  Speaker 1: represents like me owning all of it. Like this is
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  Speaker 1: my experience and I'm going to give it to you.
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  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: So what could Tank make today that the younger Tank
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: didn't have the life experience to make?
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: The life experience to make is great. That's a great question.
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: That's a great question. I had already had a lot
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: of sex and that was Got that covered.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: You get better at it with age.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: You do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You do. Like, you thought
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: you was doing something in your 20s. No, no. And
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: then you get to your 40s. It was like, I
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: was laying terrible wood in my 20s.
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: I was horrible. You want a bunch of re-dos. Not
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: a bunch of re-dos.
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: For real.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: I was not striking.
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: How long have you been with your wife?
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: We have been eight years.
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: Eight years.
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: Well, but I've known her.
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: Before that, though. So I'm saying you kind of.
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: even with her, like, do y'all talk about what was
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: not good and the best versus what's way better now?
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: We always, yeah, I think we have those kinds of talks.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: I think we've always been compatible in that area.
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: I heard you.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Like we've always.
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: Had great chemistry.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like that was, that was
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: my animal, my other, my spirit animal in, in that place.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like that connection has always
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: been off the charts, but just in terms of who
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: we were. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And having
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: to mature, like we, we definitely talk about that. Um,
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know, man. I think, I think the, the,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: the one thing that I did do that I haven't
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: done that I've never done is with me putting my
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: gospel side, my church side on display on this album,
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: which I've always been kind of afraid to do.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: Why you want to blend the secular with the gospel?
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: I just didn't.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: You don't want to hear from your family. Your mom
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: would be like.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: What you doing? You're going to stop playing with the law.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: That's the first thing my mama say. Like, and I
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: was like, you know, I was like, this time, you know,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: with the experience, I got to give them everything. I'm
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: not going to hold anything back. And it's funny. I
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: told this story the other day. I was in Chicago
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: doing a show. And one of R. Kelly's cousins was there.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: And he said, man, Kel's got a message for you.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: I said, what's up? He said, tell Tank don't be
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: afraid of his church side.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: This is all while I'm working on the album. I
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: already got the. I'm already working on one of the
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: gospel songs. And then another one is on the way
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: from ghost kid. And like, I'm already doing it and
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not having second thoughts about it, but that was
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: just to me confirmation. You know what I mean? From,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: from Kells, who's always dabbled, you know what I'm saying?
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Always led with his church. Like, don't, don't be afraid
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: of that, bro.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: And is that like the song choice itself is, is
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: a lot about how I need you, right? It's a
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: lot about you real, not realizing, but you just professing
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: out loud.
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: Like I need you. I need you in my life.
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: Things aren't always perfect.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: Like, is that why you chose that song to be
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: the one that you kind of bring that church side
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: in with?
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: It was, it was two part because I was like, man,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: you know, the worship, you know, side of me was
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: just like, like, if you listen to the song, it's
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: two part because it's like, there's being thankful for the
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: woman that's in your life and going and being in
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: worship to that, for that. And then, being thankful for God.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: And so it's, it's two part, you know what I mean?
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: And so however it hits you, you know what I mean?
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Wherever it sends you, I wanted, I wanted it to
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: meet you wherever you are. Yes, I am in worship
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: to God and thankful for the woman that I have.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: And I can tell her how I need you, but
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I'm also telling him how I need you. And then
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: you get Kirk to come in and just put the
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: whole thing together, make the whole thing make sense. You
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? So Cardi Cortez and Eric Dawkins, like, Um,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: such a dope record produced by my guy, Javon. Um, really,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: really great record. And I need, I, this record was
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: haunting me. Like certain records, like certain, certain ideas will
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: haunt you until you get them done. And it just was,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: it was haunting.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Why this one in particular?
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know. I don't ever know. I
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: don't ever know. It just, it just, it just does.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: It's just like the spirit is saying you have to
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: get this one done.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: Even if you don't know what, what has your spirit,
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: what has the spirit been talking to you about as
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: you're listening to it now and that it's like out
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: here in the world.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: And that's the thing. It's not out.
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: It's, it's like people have heard it.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: People have heard it.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: It's going to come back to me. Like I'm going
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: to be able to pinpoint the why in a few seconds,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: something is going to happen. Um, someone is going to
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: happen around this song and, and God is going to reveal.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: This is why I had you do it. It's going
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: to happen. And I just wait for those moments.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: When you talked about the two sides of it, I
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: think about something my pastor always does. Him and the
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: first lady in the church, they've been married for years,
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: but they come on stage and she does like the
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: church announcements, but he always takes time to like love
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: her in front of the church.
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: And I think I've never seen.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: You know, pastors try to act like they don't have
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: that life even with their wives, right? But I always
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: thought that it was amazing because it's like God talks
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: about how like, you know, a woman completes a life
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: and a life, your life, And being grateful to that
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: and understanding that and being thankful to that is kind
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: of like what your faith relationship should be with God.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: And it's of God as well, too.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: So I don't know. Maybe you're marrying the two of
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: them there somewhere.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Listen, I've done couples nights.
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: People have been having the babies now.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: They've got to bring in and get the rings. I've
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: done couples nights for churches, for pastors. And they call
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: me in.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: What you sing?
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you mean? I sing the songs that
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: they get busy to.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: What do you mean?
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: All that secular music?
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: What do you mean? What do you mean?
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: Do you think they're playing?
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: You think they're playing Reverend James Cleveland when they're getting saucy?
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: You never know.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Lil' John B. Keith.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: I know that God, my God.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Turn that Fred Hammond on. Light that thing up.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: No, that's true.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Because my pastor, when he bring her on stage sometimes,
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: he'll sing like Luther Vandross.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: He'll sing to her.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Of course. You know?
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: I'm like, oh my God. Absolutely.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: It's like they're married and like they're equally, they're doing
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: all the things.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: So why not?
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: But I'm a church kid. So they know. So the vibrations,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: they understand what I am. So that's why.
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: You keep your shirt on in the church.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Listen, God gave me this skin.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: No, you can't do that. You took your shirt off
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: in the church. Every time I see you perform, you
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: end up taking something off. You can't do that.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Just to give it the look.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: On my back. On the back. I keep it away.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I try to keep.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: The nipples out of it.
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: I don't understand. How do you think we got here?
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: God made this. And when he finished making it, he said,
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: it is good. That's what he said.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: That's your question about experience, right? You've always been comfortable
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: singing about sex.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: But at the age we are now, isn't intimacy more
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: interesting than sex?
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I think they all, it has to be all of it.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: When you talk about when we were younger, that's what
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: I feel like. In our 20s, that was just sex.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: As you get older, you learn intimacy.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: You was just horny. You just need something to rub
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: up against. But now it's like now you need a connection.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you feel it. It's spiritual. Right?
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: The blood doesn't even flow right if there isn't a
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: proper connection. You understand what I'm saying? And that's what
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: more of my music entails. Now I think when you
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: asked me that question earlier, like what experience can I,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: that I didn't have earlier is that I didn't, I didn't,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't understand the, the spiritual and mental aspect of
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: what that entailed. Like we've always had the physical cause
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: our bodies just respond. Right. But there's a deeper level, um,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: to understanding and listening in the moment and, and truly
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: getting the most out of it. So, you know, I'm,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: That's a different conversation. That's a longer conversation. Go ahead.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Are there any older songs you listen to and you're like,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: I didn't know what the hell I was talking about?
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Because the only reason I'm harping on this is because
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Experience is a hell of a title.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yes.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: So are there any older songs that you're like, I
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: didn't know what the hell I was talking about?
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Maybe Slowly.
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: Ooh.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: You like a different pace?
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: No, I knew to sing it.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I knew to write it.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: But taking my time looks differently now. It looks way
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: differently now. You're way more patient. Back then, it was like,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: if you went a long time, yeah, an hour and
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: a half, and he's going crazy. He's flipping it, and
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: he's flipping it, and rubbing it down. But but taking
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: your time, like slowly means something completely different. You know
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Um, again, it goes back to the
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: listening and paying attention. Um, and, and the other part
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: asking questions, you know what I'm saying? Like in order
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: to truly be good at this thing, you have to
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: get the information. You have to get the information. You
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: have to be inquisitive. There has to be a deep, um,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: desire and also love for it you know what I'm
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: saying like you gotta yeah it's different when I know
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: you I know what you need.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: That's why I was asking you about your conversations with
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: your wife and how that might have helped shape this
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: album because y'all are so comfortable and so locked in
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: with each other that's a different level of you talk
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: about intimacy that's different in that space.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Different it feels different Like, the conversation is different. Like,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, at a certain point, you
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: don't have to say anything.
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: You just lock in.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: And get to that place every time. You know, so, yeah.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: You're right.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: So do you think men actually become better lovers with age? Absolutely.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Or we just get more experience? Especially at getting what
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: we want.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Better. Better. Okay. Better. If you're paying attention. Mm-hmm. You have... Better.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: And if you have... the right partner, the right person
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: to help bring that out of you. Yeah. Everybody should
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: get better. Yeah.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: What you're saying is true. If you're having conversations, if
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: you're asking questions.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I want to know.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I want to know. If I'm trash, tell me. You
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying? If that right there don't feel
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: like nothing, tell me to stop. That ain't doing nothing
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: right there. You got to move over to the left
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: a little bit. Okay.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: That's experience.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. I get what you're saying. I've been young
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: and I've been disappointing.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: You have somebody tell you that? What they say?
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, were you, like, tanked at the time?
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. This was pretty tanked.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: No, you don't have to share.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: It ain't traumatic.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Go ahead. It's the experience I've had in the middle
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: of it. Like, in the middle, like, just like, oh, God. That.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: While you, like.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: While I'm doing my best work.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Damn.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Sent me on a journey. That one single moment sent
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: me on a journey. I got to figure this out.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Because apparently, I'm not really good at it. Got the tools.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: How did she tell you?
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: She huffed and puffed.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Huffed and puffed.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: But you never asked her, like, what caused it?
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: The huff and puff is crazy.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: The huff and puff, hey, it was wild. Oh, God.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: And you just right there. And I'm like, did you stop?
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Well, I was finished.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: Hold on.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: You got finished too early? Yeah.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Oh!
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God, man.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: She's like, I'm about to say, no, me first.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: But see, that's when you got to blame it on her.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: She shouldn't have said nothing. Just shut up. Don't say nothing.
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: So then it was silent. She hit you with what
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: you about to do.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: No, just like, just pack up your things, man. Damn.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Just get out of there.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: You never got a redo? Nope.
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: She ain't coming to the Chris Brown Usher concert. She
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: is pissed.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she mad.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Is that what she gave you? I was lying.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I was a baby. But it sent me on a mission.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Sent me on a mission. Because certain things you don't
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: even understand about your body as it pertains to experience.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: I didn't understand why when... when it felt a certain
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: way to her or felt a certain way to a
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: woman that it triggered me differently.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Damn.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Like once, once they got into that rhythm and got
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: into that moan, I was toast.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: I get it though. I was toast. It's nothing more
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: sexy when a woman's into it.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: You just got to get that. You got to maintain.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I got to, I got to figure out how to
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: maintain my composure. That's right. That's right. You understand what
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? I did.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Woo.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Out of there. quick.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Damn, and did she kick you out?
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: She didn't have to kick me out. I knew to leave.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Nah, I knew to leave.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I knew my time was up.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Literally.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: You have some water.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: So what the hell inspired Please Don't Go then? If
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: you was getting kicked out all these times, who didn't
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: you want to leave?
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: He wrote that for the first person.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Please Don't Go was I don't think Please Don't Go
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: was anybody. Like it wasn't a girlfriend. It was probably
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: a girl that just found some foolishness that, you know.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I got you. I was just in the field at
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: that point.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Got you.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Maybe I Deserve was about somebody. You know
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? When she actually said it. You know
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? I feel like you deserve for me
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: to do some of the stuff that you did and
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: got away with. And I was like, ooh, shit, that's
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: a song. You know what I'm saying? But outside of that,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, what's funny is like I Hate You is about,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: it's funny, my wife is going, she's going to see this.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: It's about my wife. You know what I'm saying? When
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: I wrote that, it said sex, love, and pain.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm sure she knew that, though, right?
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she knew that. So she called me as soon
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: as the album came out. She's like, so I should
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: just be in the fucking video, huh?
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: I was like, damn.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, probably.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: But now she's my wife.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: All is forgiven. Like, we're good.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: But, you know, all of those experiences, all of those things,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: you know, just lead to where we are now.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: It's interesting with a song like Control though, right? Because
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: you are essentially asking who has control between.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: A man and a woman.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: At this age, we know it ain't nobody really in control.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: We're just in it together.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: We're just, you know, picking the battles that we can win.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: But for me, like, me and my wife, our roles
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: are definitely defined. You know what I'm saying? She's the
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: house manager. She also, when it comes to the kids
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: and schedule and all of these things, she runs all
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: of that. She's trying to run my schedule too, but
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: I'm still holding out. You can't run me.
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: But is she running you?
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: No, she wants to run me.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Most of the time we see blind spots and we trying.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: To help you. When you submit, you'll appreciate it.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: This Libra wants to run me. If you ask her,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: she's going to tell you, yes, that's what I'm trying
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: to do. She's not going to deny it. She wants
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: all the control.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: And she probably has it.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: She's a boss.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: What you stuttering for? Say it with that chest.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I know she's going to see this.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: Talk to the camera.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I know she's going to see this, so I'm just
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: trying to tread lightly. You know what I'm saying? That's
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: just what she is. She likes to control. She likes
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: to organize. She likes to orchestrate. Like, that's her gift.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? For me, I'm, I'm free.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta be able to move and change
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: at the drop of a dime. Cause that's just what
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: our thing is. You never know when an opportunity, you
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: never know when any of these things are going to
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: pop up. I gotta go right now. She's not with that.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: She hates change and abrupt change for that matter. You
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? So, you know, control is, it
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: says that, um, You know, if we're being honest, we
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: have the control.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Who's we?
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Men.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Men have the control. Of what?
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: In marriages.
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: Overall.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: We're supposed to. Okay.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: I get what you're saying.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: I know. Explain further.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Uh-oh.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: No, I'm just really trying to understand.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Well, we are supposed to be the leaders.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Leadership.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Supposed to be. We are supposed to be. Right? A
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: woman will follow and submit to the right man.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: She absolutely will once she feels safe and secure and
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: understands and truly believes that he knows his role.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: The right man.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: The right man. Yes, yes, yes. The right man. Not
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: every man.
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: And so that's what I mean by that. And then
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: once it's established, then that's when the roles come into play.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Then everybody's role is different. but the dynamic of who's
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: where doesn't change.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: And it's the other way with men too.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Like when we talk about who actually has the power
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: in a relationship, like, you know, the societal construct is
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: that men have the power in a relationship. But when
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: a man finds a great woman, that's what the Bible says,
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: when a man finds a good wife, he finds a
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: good thing. When you find that wife, you relinquish all
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: that power as well. And you feel comfortable relinquishing.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: You're willing to share, right? Because your wife becomes your
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: safe place. So you don't have to always be. Up
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: in here.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: So why you don't let her just control your schedule?
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: She does.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: Nope.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Because if I let her control my schedule, I wouldn't be.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: Here right now.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: You won't be doing as much?
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: No.
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: So she wants you home.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Listen, and I love her. And I want to be home.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: But I'm on the R & B tour, baby. Huh?
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: In the rain. Shirt off.
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: We saw you.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Singing to the peak.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: You ever put your goddamn shirt on?
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Yes. She asks me all the time, when you going
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: to stop taking your shirt off? When they stop wanting
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: to see it.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Damn.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: I'm on the set of Reasonable Doubt. Five months. I
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: got to get to it.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: You got your shirt off at Reasonable Doubt too?
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Sometimes. You got to watch and see.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: You're only yelling in here because you can't yell at home.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: You ain't doing that at the house.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I yell at home.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: You ain't doing nothing at the house.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I yell at home. No, you don't. You ain't doing
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: nothing at the house. I'll be yelling at home.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: When she come around, I'll be crying. I'll be crying.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: No, you're not. You ain't doing nothing at the house.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I got people at the house, man. Y'all gotta come
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: help me, man.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: But is it for her? Like, is it just like
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: y'all are age.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: Like, you know, you're getting older and she wants to
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: just enjoy what you guys have worked for?
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: Or is it like.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: She just don't want you out here with your shirt
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: off in front of all these women because she don't
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: seem like she would be caring about that.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: No, I think she just, it's just what you said.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: She just wants me there.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like if my wife could
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: be in my skin, she would be in my skin.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: What's her sign?
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: She's a Libra. Okay.
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: She, she would, that's, that's all it is. It's, it's
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: nothing more like she, she gets the idea of like,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: for me, I have, I have goals. Like, she's like,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I will be okay if we just had You know,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: a two-bedroom apartment. And I said, but I won't.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I said, I get it. And I love you for that.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: But I want a certain thing.
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? I want a certain legacy.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: I want to pass down a certain thing to my children. Like,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: this is for me. So that's the purpose that, you know,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: she's understanding and allowing me to live out.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: You know, I feel like, too, man, R & B
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: feels culturally important again. And I say that in front
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: of you because you were one of the people that's
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: always been championing, saying we got.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: To preserve R & B, hold.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: R & B high, always saying that it needs to
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: be supported properly.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: I feel like it is now.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Because people are tired. They want to get their soul's worth,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: and they want to get their money's worth.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Oof.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Okay. They want it. They want to feel something again.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: They don't want to leave the show empty. They don't
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: want to listen to 17 to 24 songs and not
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: have experienced anything or gotten anything out of it once
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: they spend that $ 12 or whatever that is to listen
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: or once they spend that $ 200 to go to the show.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: And I can tell you right now, we've always and
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: will always put on a show.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: That's what R & B is. Like, that's all we got. Like,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: we're going to get on that stage. We're going to sing.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: We're going to dance. You know what I'm saying? We're
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: going to make you forget about some things that's going
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: on in your life for about two hour and a half,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: two hours. Like, that's always been us. You know, and
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: we would say the mainstream hasn't totally been receptive to
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: that for a very long time. Everything has just been trendy.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: There's been no feeling attached to it. Mm-hmm. But now
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: we back. Like, Leon Thomas got us back. Like, Breezy
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: and Residuals got us back. Like, Kehlani and Foldit got
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: us back. You know what I'm saying? Janae just dropped
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: number one, 74,000.
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: Back.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Masego.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Like, all of these conversations are being had, and they're
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: not just being had. Like, people are showing up to
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: see it.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: I went to go see Masego at Radio City Music Hall.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: And I wasn't even familiar with his music like that. Nyla,
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: who's like a niece to me, she played me a
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: couple of his records like last year. And then I
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: heard something recently off his new album. And I just
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: wanted to go experience it. I'm like, I wonder if
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: this guy sounds like this for real, for real. Then
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: I get there and I'm like, oh, he plays the saxophone?
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: He plays the keys? He plays the guitar?
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: He's incredible.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: I'm like, who the hell is this guy?
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: He's incredible.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Why is the radio playing him every hour on out?
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Oh, I know why. Because we got
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: a bunch of culturally clueless.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: program directors all around the country who don't even try anymore.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't say it.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: It's just true. They don't even try anymore. It's right
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: there in your face. If this was 10 years ago,
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: 15 years ago, forget about it, but Masego would be,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: they'd be killing him. They'd be playing every single, you
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: know how it feels to have one of them type
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: of records.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Why is it so tough to get a love song
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: from a black artist? on a mainstream radio station. Why is,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: why is that? Why is that? So why is that
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: not the norm? Like, like for anybody else, it's not
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: even a conversation. You know what I mean? Like Teddy swims,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: who's incredible by the way, absolutely incredible. But it wasn't
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: a thought of if his song, um, was going to
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: go to adult R & B radio? It was never
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: a question. No. Mainstream. Crossover. Immediately. It wasn't even a thought.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Well, he's also white.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Obviously.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Me, I gotta start over here, though. We'll see how
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: we feel about you. Whether we like it or not,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: and I signed up for it, so I'm never going
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: to complain about it. I signed up for this.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: And it's been like that your whole career?
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I know what I'm up against. Absolutely.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: What?
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I fight tooth and nail for every part, every piece.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: What's one song that is undeniably one of your biggest
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: hits that radio.
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: Didn't even want to work?
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: That they didn't want to work.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: Like they didn't want to, like you had to fight
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: for it to even get played on the radio. But
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: today we're like, damn, I think that's the one.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I had to fight for all of them. I had to,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: you know, I watched Please Don't Go start at 30
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: spins and grow every week, every week, every week till
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: we got 300, then 3,000, and then finally number one.
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I watched people pass on
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: the song. That song's cool. It's alright. You know what
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: I'm saying?
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: You know, I watch some radio programmers be absolutely terrified
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: of When We. I mean, rightfully so. But, you know,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: fight for that one. Thank God for Juliet.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Is that why you jaded?
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: Because I remember you said Army Money was going to
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: be your last Your final.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: And last album. No, that was just health. That was
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: a health scare.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. So I just wanted more time. But, you know,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: we're up against it, man. As black R & B artists,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: as black soul singers that want to sing about love
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: and relationships, we're up against it. Up against it. Like,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: think about it. How many male R & B artists
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: are singing about love on mainstream radio?
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: I was just saying, I'm trying to think about that, because... Yeah,
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: I mean, new songs?
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Period. And there's some joints out there.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: But think about it.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: But that's why you're so, I mean, you said the general,
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: like you put yourself in a general position. That's why
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: you protect everybody to a certain extent and a little differently.
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: 100%.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: Like I saw when Pitchfork did that rating of Chris Brown's.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: That was crazy.
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: Which was, when I reported it here, I was like,
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: I couldn't even read the whole thing because I'm like,
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: this has nothing to do with the music.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: That's a hit piece.
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: It was all about all the other stuff.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: It's a hit piece. That's it. It's a hit piece. Like,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: and certain things I just, I just can't allow. Like,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I just won't stand for it. You know, especially when
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: it comes to him because imagine growing up in front
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: of the camera. Imagine really being the Truman Show. Like,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: the reason most of us aren't, you know, aren't ridiculed
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: and criticized the way he is is because... The camera's
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: not on us.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'd have to go up in front of the camera.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: That's right. Oh, we got some shit in our closet.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I promise you that if it came out, we'd be
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: completely canceled. And thank God there was no Instagram, Twitter,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: and all of that in the late 90s, early 2000s.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. But since they do have, since you do
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: have your publicist back there, like since, but since they
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: do have this access, now they use it against you
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: as if they're perfect. And, um, I, I, I can't
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: allow it. I can't allow it.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: In the case of Chris Brown, it won't work.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: That's what you, when you, no weapon, right?
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Nope. Cause, cause, cause whether you like it or not, um,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Many are called, but the chosen are few. He's chosen.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: He's absolutely chosen. I don't know why we are connected
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: in this way. You know what I'm saying? I've met
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: many artists, many people that I'm cool with and all,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: but that right there, that was my assignment. You know
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? To always be like, bro, you good?
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: You need anything? What's going on? It's always been my assignment.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: I don't need nothing. I don't need nothing. I'm good.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: I can just make sure you're good. And that's probably
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: always going to be that. Because you see the surface part.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: I see the heart of a man. I know him.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I know what he gives. I know what he does.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: I know how selfless he is. And for it to
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: always be an attack on a, you know, not a lot.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Not on my watch.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: I will say, too, the R & B Money Podcast
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: is another reason I feel like R & B is
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: flourishing the.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Way it is.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Because the fact that y'all are bringing these artists on,
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: giving them their flowers, celebrating them, breaking down R &
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: B in a way that people can really understand where
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: people are coming from. I had a whole discussion. Remember
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: when Jack Harlow put out that R & B album?
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: I said Jack should have sat, instead of sitting with
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: the two white people in New York town, he should.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Have sat with Jay and Tank on the R &
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: B Money podcast and just had a great discussion about
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: R & B and let those records be revealed there.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Guarantee it would have been received totally there. Guarantee it
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: would have been received totally different.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: The inspiration he used might have been received different, but
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: he would have needed to know how to navigate that
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: conversation with y'all.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Well, we would have helped him. That's the other part too, right?
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Because we're artist sensitive, producer sensitive, like songwriter sensitive. You
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? We're R & B sensitive. I
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: understand what you're going for. Now let's just make sure
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: that you present it the right way and don't tick
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: people off. There's a way to do that. I get it.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: You're not wrong. It just has to be presented right.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: And when you go and talk to people who don't
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: do it and don't know it, they can't protect your presentation.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: They don't know how to help you.
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: We try to tell them about the hats.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Something like sometimes sometimes when you're trying to do a
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: thing right the first thing you do is you know
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: you kind of search out the uniform for the thing
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: you're trying.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: To do the point oh it's a good point.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Right and so in searching out the uniform you can
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: you can you can Easily misstep. Like, because especially if
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: the uniform is not organic to who you are. Like
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: my brother. Like, look like Donny Hathaway now? You've never
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: looked like Donny Hathaway before. I get it. But you
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: don't have to do that. You can still be you
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: and sing this music. And that would have been the
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: first thing. I said, hey, you don't need the outfit.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: You don't need none of that. Just be you. And
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: just sing what's on your heart. Even that little nuance,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: that little difference would have made a difference for him.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Even him saying his music got blacker, I think y'all
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: could have helped him out. Yeah. As soon as I
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: heard it, I'm like, he should have been sitting with
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Jay and Tank.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a lot of. There's a way to
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: appreciate something and to speak on it. You know what
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? And I love Jack Harlow, by the way.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Super cool cat. Super, super cool cat.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: If Experience ended up being your last album, what would
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: you hear on this record that makes you comfortable with
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: it being your final chapter?
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know why it would be.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to ask. Does he be busy? If
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Experience was my last album, I would want to say
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Might be two records for me. Might be How I
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Need You and Highlight with Charlie Wilson and MK.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: Why those two?
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: How I Need You, of course, the church side, the
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: worship record on the song. Working with Kirk Franklin is
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: just like a dream of mine. He and I are cool.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: We crack jokes. We, you know, We cut up all
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: the time, but I still hold him in high regard
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: in terms of what he is and who he is. Absolutely.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? That was just important for me.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Even me asking for him to get on the record,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: I didn't know if he would do it. And he
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: was like, I got you. I got you. And we
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: went to the studio. He literally knocked it out in
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: seven minutes.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: And I was just like, Kirk Franklin, ladies and gentlemen.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Zuccardi Cortez. one of my favorite singers ever. Um, he
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: just snapped. I said, I need you to snap, just
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: go places. We can't go, go there. And Eric Dawkins,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: who's like one of my, one of my vocal coaches, um,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: studying him since I was young. Um, he just provided
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: the foundation for the record. Like when he sent his,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: when he sent, I said, I need you to do
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: this for me. When he sent it back to me,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: what he did, I cried. That's how anointed he is.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: Like I, I cried when he sent it. I was just,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: I was just shook. Um, so that record for sure,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: just very important. And then, um, I've always had a, a,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: a love for house music. There's just, you know, being
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: from the DMV, you know what I'm saying? The Baltimore
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: house and all of that stuff. And I've never really
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: been able to express it. Never really been able, you know,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: so when, you know, family, we go to Ibiza and
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: all these different places and we're in Paris and this
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: house music is just going crazy. We go see my guy, MK,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: him and Calvin Harris, and they're doing a thing. And
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: it's just like, I want to be part of this
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: so bad. I mean, cause you know, houses, houses, essentially.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: So music sped up, you know what I mean? And
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: so I'm like, I gotta be part of this. And
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: so even making that record, like, you know, when I,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: when I made it, I was like, okay, okay. I
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: made a house record, but I don't know if I
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: truly made a house record. And that's speaking from a
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: producer standpoint of wanting to be completely authentic with how
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: they do it so I called MK I was like
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: bro I need to bring this to your house I
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: need to bring this to your studio and I need
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: you to make sure it's what it's supposed to be
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: please you know what I mean and I'm a producer
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: this is what I do But there's certain things that
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: have to be done when you start tampering into different genres.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: And when I got there and he's loading up the
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: files and he starts moving stuff and adding this and
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: doing this, I'm like, oh, wow. That's different.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: When you learn, he got the experience with that type
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: of record.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: Come on, man. Keep plugging it. Keep, keep, keep. And
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: he was just showing me a whole nother world. And
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: I was like, wow. And it was, it was, it was,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: cause I'm always like, I'm always, I always want to learn.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: I always want some new information. Like I crave it.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? And so he was giving
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: me this lesson without even knowing that he was just
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: like taking me on a journey. And I was like,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: I gotta live there. And I was like, bro, when
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: you play it in front of those 40,000 people, you
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: got to take a video of it. Like, cause he's,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: that's the world. And I'm like, I gotta, I gotta
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: get over there. So I think those two songs for me.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: At this stage, what is Tank still trying to prove?
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Prove?
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And who are you still trying to prove to?
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Anybody? I'm just having a good time. I promise you.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Prove nothing to no one. If anything, my fight now
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: or my motivation is to be the best actor that
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: I can be. That is a space where I have
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: a lot to prove. You know what I'm saying? Because
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: when you start looking at them call sheets and you
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: start seeing who the number ones are and you start
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: seeing who's really generating revenue at the box office and
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Netflix and all of these things and Hulu, like, okay,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: my name is not one of those names yet. Got
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: to get my name up there.
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: Oh, Lord, it ain't going for an Oscar.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: I got to get my name up there.
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: Why not? Can we get a Zoom in with you
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: on the podcast? Because you'll be missing some of the episodes.
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: You got to better balance out your schedule. You got
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: us hooked over here. Now you're going for Oscar.
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: We need the balance.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Listen, the balance is no balance.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: That's a fact. Work-life balance is a myth.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: There's no such thing.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: There's no such thing. No.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: There's no such thing. You know what I mean? And
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: so I love the pod. I'm just not a podcaster.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, you are. No. You in jail.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Fantastic.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Listen to what I'm saying.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: I can do it. I'm good at it. Right? But
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: when I... If I was ever writing out my goals,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: that wasn't one of them.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, I got what you're saying. I got what you're saying.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying?
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: But you're a keeper of the culture.
• 52:18
  Speaker 6: Sure.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: And it helps you to be... It helps that.
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: And y'all dynamic together on there is like.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Incredibly.
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: It's fire. There's nowhere else like it for a certain conversation.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: So when I have to pick... You know, between, you know,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: elevating my acting career and having to show up for
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: the pod, like the choice is not, it's not even
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: a choice for me. Like the acting is definitely going to,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: you know, it's going to overtake that. But as you see,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: Jay is still keeping it going. You know what I'm saying?
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: He's still, you know, 10 toes down.
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: 100%.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Knocking that thing out. And that's why you have a partner.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: It's why you have somebody that, you know, that you
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: can rely on to keep the ship going. You know
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? And when I get in there, I
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: can get to dance, play my little piano, and get
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: on back out and get my lines. You know what
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? So that's the blessing in that. But, you know,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: this next chapter for me, like, in terms of music,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: trying to prove anything, no, I've done it. I've done
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: it all. Now I'm just having a good time expressing myself.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Now I'm just having a good time sharing my experience.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: Your experience, which is out this Friday.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: When is your season of Reasonable Doubt, like, It starts
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: October 6th.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know. Listen, listen.
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: I'm excited for you.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know.
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: That's a big show.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: Big show. Big season. If you are not caught up
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: on Reasonable Doubt, get caught up. From season one to, please.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: It's an incredible, incredible show. with incredible people, all incredible
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: people involved. You know what I mean? Like you talk
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: about a culture, an incredible culture of people from, you know,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: from Ramla to, I'm talking about the grips to set
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: design to the DP. It's like, everybody's awesome. The directors,
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: like everybody's awesome. I'm like, this is, this can't be real.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: Like some, some, what y'all hiding? Like who, Somebody going
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: to do something. One of the most incredible experiences ever.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: So Reasonable Doubt, October 6th. Experience out this Friday.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: And I'm trying to get a date on, you know,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: I'll speak with Tyler to get a date on the
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: movie that we have coming, Gospel Christmas.
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: Tyler Perry.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, the Tyler Perry movie. Oh, okay, okay.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Tyler Perry, man.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: Two days shoot?
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: How long it took, two days? No, this one took
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: about seven, eight days. Seven, eight? Seven, eight days. But
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: what he did with this movie, his purpose for even
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: doing this movie was just, you know, and I know
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: he wants to tell that story, so I won't say
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: too much about it, but just an extremely incredible human being. Oh, yeah.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: An extremely incredible human being. being like gifted, called, chosen,
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: all of these things. But man, you talk about, man, incredible,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: incredible guy, man. And the opportunity that, that, that, that
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: he gave me, um, out of this world, out of
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: this world.
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: Well, congratulations.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: You have the Oscar party. Make sure I'm invited.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: No, y'all, y'all invited. Listen, I need to hear from y'all.
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: The BET Awards one you had looked amazing. I was
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: tired though.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: I need to hear from y'all. October 6th. When y'all
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: watch the first three episodes after they drop.
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: We'll talk about it.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: The streets will be talking.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: I need. Yeah. Yeah.
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: The streets will be talking. She may be home, not
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: in no dang street.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: You see Denzel Jr. Jr.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Hey.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: They tried to kill my wife.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: Make sure to subscribe to the R & B Money
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: Podcast on the Black Effect iHeartRadio Podcast Network.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Go get experience.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Out right now.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: We'll probably play this Friday. Out right now.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Out right now.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: That's right. It's my guy, Tink, man. Always a pleasure, brother.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Thank you, brother.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Thank you, brother. It's The Breakfast Club.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Hey!