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Patriots Unfiltered 12/14: NFL Week 15 Picks, Previewing the Kansas City Chiefs, Thursday Practice Updates · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday here at Jillette Stadium. We got a
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  Speaker 1: big show coming up. Look at Deuce in his vest.
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  Speaker 1: We gotta get a picture of Deuce in his vest.
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  Speaker 1: What are you doing today?
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  Speaker 5: He's going to the seventh grade.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, it's it's very exciting.
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  Speaker 8: I've got seventh grade dance and uh, yep, I got
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  Speaker 8: asked by somebody. Now I'm actually excited. I'm hosting a
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  Speaker 8: panel tonight on leadership with David Andrews. Know him a
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  Speaker 8: little bit, but Patrice Bergeron's.
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  Speaker 1: Humble, very excited.
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  Speaker 7: Of course. Hockey Jesus as he's known in these parts.
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  Speaker 8: Uh, five times Selky Award winner, one time Stanley Cup champion,
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  Speaker 8: and uh.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta tell him that you played.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, of course, Well I was working. I was work,
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  Speaker 8: stopping some jokes a little bit, you know. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 8: between the three of us on stage here we got
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  Speaker 8: ire championship.
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  Speaker 5: I was on his I was his audience and I
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  Speaker 5: was like that one. I don't know if it's going
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  Speaker 5: to that one, a.
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  Speaker 7: Little deuce, but no, I'm excited.
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  Speaker 8: Interesting tidbit though, and I mean he was an alternate captain,
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  Speaker 8: so I'm going to call that a captain. But both
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  Speaker 8: Andrews and Patrice person and became captains in their third
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  Speaker 8: seasons as professionals. And I mean produced person was twenty
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  Speaker 8: one years old when he became an assistant captain with
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  Speaker 8: the Patriots with the Bruins.
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  Speaker 7: So I'm excited we could tonight.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I look nobody.
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  Speaker 9: I saw you from afar this morning when I got
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  Speaker 9: in and I was like, wow, Mike really.
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  Speaker 3: Took that emailer to heart.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, quarter zips be damned.
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  Speaker 1: I got it's Deuce, it's Alex, it's Evan, it's Paul.
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  Speaker 1: To me, it's Matt Nabooth and we're talking Patriots. We
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  Speaker 1: got pix late. Oh yeah, yeah, we got a hurry.
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  Speaker 1: So what do we got today? We know we had
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  Speaker 1: Evans practice report during last show and uh, pretty good attendance.
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  Speaker 1: Other than Remandre, you'll be going out today.
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  Speaker 5: It's going to be cold. Yeah, I'm ready.
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  Speaker 1: Colder today than yesterday, I think, right.
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  Speaker 5: I yeah, this morning it was it was like in
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  Speaker 5: the twenties.
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  Speaker 7: I'm like, oh God, grubs about it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe to get some good gloves.
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  Speaker 7: Like heating ones, Like they got to have gloves right now,
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  Speaker 7: you can like turn on the sailor.
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  Speaker 8: I was like, you got to be on the field
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  Speaker 8: all game. You gotta get some saw something. You have jackets?
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  Speaker 5: No, hea, I have one of those. Actually it's a
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  Speaker 5: vest that heats up. There was an old sponsor at clinics.
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  Speaker 8: Does it were you, oh clinis perk uh yeah? Does
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  Speaker 8: it were you wrapping up in like electricity? Like there's
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  Speaker 8: something little about that that we.
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  Speaker 5: Used to have electric blankets, like bringing it on a
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  Speaker 5: plane because.
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  Speaker 7: We're going down because of Evans electric blanket era.
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  Speaker 9: Men doing like construction right now all day in this
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  Speaker 9: weather and it's like fifteen minutes.
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  Speaker 5: Your there, Evan, right, and gloves they have the electric
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  Speaker 5: I'm doing a service.
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  Speaker 1: I love Alex questioning his manhood.
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  Speaker 4: It's not the first time, like a man you can't walk.
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  Speaker 3: Have a great Dan?
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  Speaker 1: Whoa boy?
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  Speaker 9: Whoa this kid?
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  Speaker 1: Alex?
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  Speaker 4: Who are you?
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  Speaker 5: We got a lot of emailers asking who's the girl's.
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  Speaker 7: That long?
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  Speaker 3: My second show today.
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  Speaker 1: Really excited.
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  Speaker 3: Should be here?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, good food.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I don't think so. We did know.
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  Speaker 7: Where are you guys gonna go? What are you thinking about?
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  Speaker 7: You're going to change it up?
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  Speaker 1: The curtains went to, yelp, you live close?
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  Speaker 4: Do you know of any places that.
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  Speaker 7: I just everybody's been talking about this new place.
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  Speaker 8: It's the Hot Hot It's called Pizza Time and maybe
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  Speaker 8: you guys should try it to say time with a y.
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  Speaker 4: I have a small pep. Thanks t why and take
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  Speaker 4: my water?
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  Speaker 7: He's answering calls.
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  Speaker 4: He's he's busy place in orders. I will say it
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  Speaker 4: happens when I get bogged down and work, I forget
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  Speaker 4: about them.
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  Speaker 7: We were worried about it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he didn't come in.
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  Speaker 5: No, I know.
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  Speaker 7: I was just running like I figured you already here.
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  Speaker 4: It was already on because I knew they were doing
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  Speaker 4: Catch twenty two and I was like, well, Michael, come in.
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  Speaker 1: I figured you hit it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm just looking what it's like twelve o two.
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  Speaker 8: I thought you might have been stuck in the no
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  Speaker 8: socks speed trap, which is you know, you get just stuck.
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  Speaker 8: Discussing the state of the team in the world with
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  Speaker 8: No Socks right.
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  Speaker 1: In that little area, can't I gotta go?
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  Speaker 7: I got a radio show.
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  Speaker 4: I was I was actually working on something, but I
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  Speaker 4: just lost track of time. And then Fred came in.
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  Speaker 4: He and he was talking to No Socks, and I
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  Speaker 4: didn't really think anything over and I figured Fred down there,
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  Speaker 4: I should have told me, it's like the two minute warning,
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  Speaker 4: he's getting ready to go do show prep.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't see me leave.
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  Speaker 4: I did, That's what I'm saying. That's my bad. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: all on me.
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  Speaker 7: So what did you drop about t Swift yesterday? Where
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  Speaker 7: you telling the fans you got aggregated?
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  Speaker 1: Bro's that real?
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  Speaker 3: Drops insight?
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  Speaker 1: No, honestly, I started get that.
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  Speaker 4: I said it was on the clips this mort It.
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  Speaker 9: Was like one of the first headlines on the morning.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was a photoshop.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no, I I can only wish I did.
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  Speaker 4: I got dubbed.
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  Speaker 1: But so somebody at the Herald is listening for nuggets.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, and Taylor Swift moves the needle.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean all I did was basically the same
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  Speaker 4: stuff that we talked about on the show yesterday. I
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  Speaker 4: threw the stuff that Alex had had mentioned about Sunday.
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  Speaker 4: I mentioned the thing that I had heard about Monday
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  Speaker 4: that originally she had she had inquired about Monday, but
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  Speaker 4: I didn't. I didn't really get dubbed because I said,
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  Speaker 4: that's what I said.
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  Speaker 7: You know you're gonna getdubbed for Taylor Swift stuff.
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  Speaker 4: No, I thought, like like to me, like, it's not
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  Speaker 4: really news. I'm just saying, like basically, my was I
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  Speaker 4: have a big fat maybe. I don't know if she's
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  Speaker 4: going to be there. I think she's going to be here,
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  Speaker 4: I think, and that's I said, I think she she
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  Speaker 4: might be, but I don't know for sure.
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  Speaker 5: This is like when I went on the Sports Hub
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  Speaker 5: and they asked me about the Brady week one thing
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  Speaker 5: and I said, I don't know, and they said Evan
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  Speaker 5: Lazar gives insight into Brady and I was like, I said,
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  Speaker 5: I didn't know, and you open the article and it
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  Speaker 5: just says I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm, you know, a little surprised that that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: happen more with this Showeah, people taking stuff that we
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  Speaker 1: said and you know, report Alex friends.
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  Speaker 7: Nobody nobody can said through two hours of this.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was from the Hub. It was from the
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  Speaker 4: Sports Hub that I got dubbed Oh, I thought it
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  Speaker 4: was from this show.
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  Speaker 3: Good they have better aggregations.
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  Speaker 1: But I think I have a theory the reason why
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  Speaker 1: they don't do it from this show is because they don't.
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  Speaker 1: They secretly don't want to say that they attend because
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  Speaker 1: everybody listens, but they don't want to admit they're not
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  Speaker 1: p you proud, I'm not. I don't listen to that.
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  Speaker 1: That's a team thing.
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  Speaker 4: We're kind of like we're kind of like point.
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  Speaker 1: Where we just sit around everybody.
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  Speaker 8: God, they're like three in ten, but they're good, Like
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  Speaker 8: they're just awesome. That's all it is, all day, every
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  Speaker 8: day cheerleaders. Right, Who do you think is the most
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  Speaker 8: awesomest patriot?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? But you know, like yesterday we just happened to
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  Speaker 1: be talking about San Francisco and somebody from San Francisco
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  Speaker 1: who's listening? You know?
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  Speaker 4: Right? They got a Super Bowl too? Did you see that?
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  Speaker 4: Is that?
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  Speaker 10: Right?
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  Speaker 4: Was different to coming up in La a few years
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  Speaker 4: said there's another one at so FU.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about it yesterday, but Brazil, Yeah, in two years.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I was talking to Martine about that before open locker
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  Speaker 5: room yesterday and he said that, you know, we're not
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  Speaker 5: as big in Brazil anymore, and uh he but along
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  Speaker 5: with you know, obviously Brady not being here. He equated
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  Speaker 5: a lot of it to Gizelle, Oh yeah yeah, and
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  Speaker 5: said that that was a big reason why he felt
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  Speaker 5: that that people in Brazil were Patriots fans.
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  Speaker 4: So this break is really a break kids.
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  Speaker 1: Should we get those kids back together.
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  Speaker 5: You know, the people that were commenting yesterday on the
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  Speaker 5: show about you know us talking about beaches and printers,
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  Speaker 5: they're gonna love to open it.
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  Speaker 4: This one really back into the x's and was here
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  Speaker 4: foot prologies.
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  Speaker 7: They got enough of that for two hours, and you
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  Speaker 7: guys took care of that.
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  Speaker 5: We did.
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  Speaker 1: So let's turn our attention to the Kansas City Chiefs
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  Speaker 1: and your round table came out to Mike Has. Everyone
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  Speaker 1: answered that.
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  Speaker 4: I do like how you feel necessary to share it
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  Speaker 4: with the whole class.
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  Speaker 5: Big You're a big reply.
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  Speaker 1: All guy, I did think with a Oh I didn't
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  Speaker 1: read it, I just saw.
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  Speaker 4: He replied.
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  Speaker 3: I can't lie.
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  Speaker 9: I almost had the same Taylor Swift one as him,
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  Speaker 9: so when I saw his, I had to change my.
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  Speaker 1: Oh really, I really appreciated friend's response.
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  Speaker 8: I didn't read all of them yet, but I had
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  Speaker 8: to go to the last one, which was you know,
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  Speaker 8: describe your prediction for the game and a Taylor Swift song.
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  Speaker 8: And when I was writing the question, I was like,
• 9:37
  Speaker 8: oh man, this might be tough for Fred. Like I
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  Speaker 8: imagine Alex is like, oh my god, I finally can
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  Speaker 8: like category.
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  Speaker 7: I mean me too, like I know.
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  Speaker 4: Immediately sent out a text chain. If you guys need
• 9:46
  Speaker 4: help with this, just let me know. I have I
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  Speaker 4: have seven options.
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  Speaker 8: I thought he was going to be a paragraph of
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  Speaker 8: all was the question the song was The question was
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  Speaker 8: described you know your prediction for the game using a
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  Speaker 8: Taylor Swift song, and so Fred then you know, stood
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  Speaker 8: up and said, I had go to Wikipedia for this.
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  Speaker 5: I had no idea the I think I know, shake
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  Speaker 5: it off, right, I reference my favorite Taylor.
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  Speaker 7: Swift which one is? Oh yeah, I don't know, I
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  Speaker 7: forget which one? You said, trouble Trouble. Oh yeah, I
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  Speaker 7: liked Alex's. That was a good one.
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  Speaker 3: That was a deep cut though.
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  Speaker 1: So we're going to leave that. You have to read.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I shouldn't have given mine away. Read it for hour.
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  Speaker 4: I feel.
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  Speaker 1: One of your questions and we'll give this one away.
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  Speaker 1: You know, what can the Patriots. Do you know the
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: Chiefs have had trouble lately? What can the Patriots do?
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, and we talked about it. I think
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: the Patriots have done a pretty good job even before
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  Speaker 1: this year of at least making these Chiefs games manageable,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like they haven't gotten out a hand, and
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  Speaker 1: I think that's obviously because of the good defense. You know.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I kind of want to lean on Paul with
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  Speaker 8: these ones because I you know, he'll break out the
• 10:58
  Speaker 8: computer and you remember how all those games went. But
• 11:00
  Speaker 8: I mean, just like looking back and my cloudy record
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  Speaker 8: recollection of those games were Yeah, I mean had a
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  Speaker 8: chance that the COVID game, I mean, those were weird circumstances.
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  Speaker 7: But you know, I don't I don't know.
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  Speaker 8: I just I they went off in twenty eighteen and
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  Speaker 8: it was a back and forth and there's no way
• 11:15
  Speaker 8: these Patriots can compete in that game. But at least,
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  Speaker 8: you know, holding the score down and then Nikhil har
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  Speaker 8: everything in twenty nineteen with the out of bounds you know,
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  Speaker 8: like you just you felt like they were in it.
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  Speaker 8: And that's like, I feel like they'll be okay without
• 11:26
  Speaker 8: Tyreek Hill at least they'll be able to maybe they
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  Speaker 8: know what to do.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know if to be able to act.
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody was saying, how can Mahomes, you know, whine
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: about that call when this call, when this happened in
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: a game that was the same, But I mean they,
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: I mean that was a touchdown that Nikhil Harry.
• 11:42
  Speaker 7: He would have been in the Hall of Fame if
• 11:43
  Speaker 7: he ruled that right.
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: I think his career would have taken a hold.
• 11:46
  Speaker 4: The Patriots would have Oh no, wait a minute, they wouldn't.
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  Speaker 3: That was the one pivotal moment.
• 11:50
  Speaker 7: Everything that's all fell apart.
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  Speaker 4: I do, like I do enjoy them that they had
• 11:54
  Speaker 4: to feet. The meme is is funny, like you know,
• 11:57
  Speaker 4: like because people tongue in cheeks say like Hall of
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  Speaker 4: Fame career derailed on this plast I do.
• 12:02
  Speaker 5: Like some people aren't tongue in cheek about it.
• 12:05
  Speaker 4: I like to give people more credit than that, not
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  Speaker 4: not much more, as you know, I don't necessarily think that.
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  Speaker 4: But the bigger thing Fred when to me, there's really
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  Speaker 4: been only one game, Like all those games that the
• 12:16
  Speaker 4: Patriots and Chiefs played, both teams were really good. Yeah,
• 12:19
  Speaker 4: there's only one game that the Patriots weren't really good. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and it was like close twenty six.
• 12:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, Hoyer make a mistakes.
• 12:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Hoyer is the reason why the Patriots
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  Speaker 4: had no chance.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no question, but they did have a chance in
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  Speaker 1: that game, and then the second fell apart, right, it
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: fell apart.
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  Speaker 4: You have a chance when the game starts.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, zero zero.
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  Speaker 11: No.
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  Speaker 4: I like this though, no, beause it's it's not unbelievable,
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  Speaker 4: like I just you just yeah in the second half,
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  Speaker 4: like yeah, well yeah, so they didn't have a chance
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  Speaker 4: to win the game.
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  Speaker 5: They were in the game, they didn't think was going
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  Speaker 5: to bring them back.
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  Speaker 8: Well, but this is a question for you, Paul, I
• 12:55
  Speaker 8: mean in this, I'm I mean this, you know, totally real, Like,
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  Speaker 8: I mean, do you feel like they've had a good
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  Speaker 8: play from Homes and like you know, been able to
• 13:01
  Speaker 8: kind of do anything against himers just kind of circumstantial.
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  Speaker 4: I think they're I think they're fine. Like, I think
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  Speaker 4: their defense has been fine for a lot of years.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think the defense is the problem. I just
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  Speaker 4: don't think it's as good as everybody else does. That's all. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it sounds like like Fred will get mad at me,
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  Speaker 4: like that's not I think their defense has not been
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  Speaker 4: the re I mean, I guess you go back to
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  Speaker 4: like sixteen seventeen seventeen game those the defense had no answers.
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  Speaker 7: Oh the opening game.
• 13:29
  Speaker 4: I unlike most people, I don't forget those when Alex
• 13:32
  Speaker 4: Smith is putting forty two on you, Like, I don't
• 13:35
  Speaker 4: forget that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was one of the worst defensive games of
• 13:37
  Speaker 5: the Belichick ero. Like just in terms of yards.
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  Speaker 7: Of Kareem Hunt, I remember him running like crazy. Yeah,
• 13:42
  Speaker 7: how was that that one?
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  Speaker 5: Until the Super Bowl that year? That was the worst
• 13:45
  Speaker 5: I think in terms of stats, like the worst most yards,
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  Speaker 5: most points, everything. But they they've been good, like in halves.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I think the two games in eighteen were
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  Speaker 4: forty thirty something.
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  Speaker 5: They were really good, you know in eighteen, And it
• 14:00
  Speaker 5: seems to be first halves, like so they have like
• 14:02
  Speaker 5: a good game plan and then read and and then
• 14:05
  Speaker 5: they they because in eighteen in the regular season I
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: think that they held them down. Remember Dante high Tower
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: had to pick and they held him down relatively well
• 14:13
  Speaker 5: in the first half, and then they erupted in the
• 14:15
  Speaker 5: second half. If I'm not mistaken, I think both halves
• 14:19
  Speaker 5: in those games, they scored thirty and the Chiefs did
• 14:21
  Speaker 5: in the second half of both games, and so it's
• 14:24
  Speaker 5: really like an adjustment adjustment thing, I think between Belichick.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: And the Patriots.
• 14:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so they played a lot. They play a lot
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: of man coverage against the Chiefs, which most teams don't
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: because they don't have the horses to hang in man
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: coverage against them. But I think the Patriots are so
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: worried about Kelsey against zone that they play a lot
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: of man. And then in the second half of the
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: championship game. Every Patriots honk will tell you the pick
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: plays and the you know, legal pick plays down the
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: field and all that stuff. But that's really kind of
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: what got the Chiefs going was that they started running
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: a lot more rubb routes and pick plays and things
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: like that and against man coverage and and that's what
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: opened up the game in the fourth quarter. But that's
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: not necessarily been the book on Mahomes on the whole,
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: Like the Patriots version is, you know, mostly man. In
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: twenty they played a lot of drop eight like zone
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: coverage against them and were okay that way, but too
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: high safety zone has really been like the kryptonite of
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: this entire Chiefs offense is you know, split safety, deep
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: safety zone and make them check it down, make them
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: matriculate it down the field. And that's been sort of
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: was take over taken over the league honestly against the
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: Chiefs and how to slow them down.
• 15:31
  Speaker 8: Yeah, just to compliment your point too, like just in
• 15:34
  Speaker 8: his hindsight of studying the defense over those years, like
• 15:36
  Speaker 8: twenty twenty was like anomally for the Patriots, Like they
• 15:39
  Speaker 8: just they like just ran like one linebacker with Bentley,
• 15:41
  Speaker 8: like it just when you look at like what they
• 15:42
  Speaker 8: played and then you know what they had and that
• 15:44
  Speaker 8: whole year, So maybe.
• 15:45
  Speaker 7: That was part of it.
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: Twenty twenty.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: They adjusted the defense then because there were no fans
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: and you could hear the calls and all that.
• 15:52
  Speaker 8: No, I just think they didn't have anybody to play
• 15:54
  Speaker 8: like they just were. I mean they were you know what,
• 15:56
  Speaker 8: Tayshan Bauer. I mean they had practice squad guys.
• 15:59
  Speaker 7: I mean, I just it was it was a mess
• 16:01
  Speaker 7: that I actually.
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: Thought their game plan against the Chiefs in twenty twenty,
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: as shorthanded as they were a personnel wise, not a
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: lot of teams were playing drop eight coverage, right, like,
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: so you rush three guys and you drop eight into coverage.
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: And that was sort of the first game that anybody
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: had ever done that against Mahomes, and he was in
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: the beginning of the game was kind of shaken by it.
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: Like I don't really think that. I think it worked
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: for the Patriots for a while, and now a lot
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: more teams do that, a lot more teams played.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: But I think they've done really well against Mahomes is
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: they've they've forced turnovers and not just picks. Like even
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: in that game, I want to say, I want to say,
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: they scored quickly, then they were going down to score
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: again and Sammy Watkins got stripped.
• 16:41
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna take your word for it.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: You know, in the red zone like they and I
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: know that there was a game here, the Nikil Harry
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: game here he threw a bad pick to High Tower
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: on RPO that he I think that build just baffled Homes.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: He confused him and had High Tower in a spot
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: that he wasn't expecting. So nineteen or eighteen, Okay, maybe
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: it was eighteen. I thought it was nineteen, but you
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: might be regardless. And I just feel like they've done
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: a good job of turning the Chiefs over. Now this year,
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: the Chiefs have just turned the ball over in every game, so,
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: I mean they were down with the Patriots and turnover margin.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: So I don't know if that's because of I think
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: it's because of the receivers. I think a lot of
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: their turnovers have been the result of drop passes that
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: are resulted in picks. But you know, I don't know
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: if that's a defensive thing necessarily, but they've been able
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: to take the ball away from from Mahomes a little bit.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: You steal possessions that way.
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah, got it? Just a quick good SID stat.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: SID stats don't care for.
• 17:40
  Speaker 8: Two things for the next gen that they sent out.
• 17:41
  Speaker 8: But this will be the first game in NFL history
• 17:43
  Speaker 8: with head coaches that have combined for five hundred plus
• 17:45
  Speaker 8: regular season wins or six hundred plus total wins in
• 17:48
  Speaker 8: their career entering the game.
• 17:49
  Speaker 7: Kind of this interesting little historical place.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: That is an SID status. I've ever heard one.
• 17:54
  Speaker 7: You know what, can I share one more thing from?
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: You know? So they send the NFL sends these out
• 17:57
  Speaker 7: every week, the little package.
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: On one o'clock on Sunday.
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: That's a little bit too specific.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: First time Patriots in Chiefs at one o'clock.
• 18:05
  Speaker 8: Oh wait, Usually these are all next gen stats, and
• 18:07
  Speaker 8: you know there's a lot of good stuff, you know, like,
• 18:09
  Speaker 8: for example, Bailey's appy is as many deep passing tds
• 18:11
  Speaker 8: in twenty three uh one as Patrick mahomes one.
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: But the other the most interesting part to me was
• 18:17
  Speaker 7: that they included Belichick.
• 18:19
  Speaker 8: Quote saw a little bit of a Taylor Swift concert
• 18:21
  Speaker 8: at Jillette Stadium in May, and this is hyperlink to
• 18:24
  Speaker 8: Patriots dot com called her performance in the rain pretty impressive.
• 18:27
  Speaker 8: I've never seen them link to anything in my life,
• 18:30
  Speaker 8: and they linked to Taylor Swift and Patriots dot com.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: Right, Alex, did you write that?
• 18:35
  Speaker 8: I think this was a Veronica. I think this was
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: a Veronica, So credit credit. I don't know if she
• 18:39
  Speaker 8: wrote it.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: But when Bill said that you didn't write anything up
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: on that.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: I had to.
• 18:43
  Speaker 9: But yeah, of course, so maybe they to the video.
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: They're getting you click cute.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: He has his own cult.
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: Un till Taylor Swift made the next gen.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: And I will say, so.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: You know I used to make those stat packs back
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: You must love it. How did you quick that job?
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: In games? In December?
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: At one?
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: It was honestly day it was a dream come true.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: It really was the only reason why I left was
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: to come cover the Rell dream, which was to cover
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: the Patriots. But yeah, I used to make those stat
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: packs and stuff like that, the Taylor Swift stuff like
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: we would have to be aware of stuff like that,
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: like pop culture like Tommy DeVito, like for example, like
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: we'd have to like add that to the stat pack
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: somehow of like you know how many chicken cutlets Tommy
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: DeVito eat, pregames.
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: And everyone else.
• 19:35
  Speaker 8: Because you were just like, yes, like they're gonna give
• 19:37
  Speaker 8: us the package to take guys.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: No, actually, they they really liked me though, because I
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: would so we would divvy.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: Up was the one that we.
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: Would we would get in the group project. We would
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: divvy up the games every single week, like there's a
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: whole team of us, right, and so like you divvy
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: up the schedule, and they would they wouldn't even ask
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: who wants the Patriots game. They would just give it
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: to me because I could just do it without it,
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: you know, really looking anything up. You know, it was
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: so easy for me to do the Patriots game.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: So that's how I get in trouble.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So they were just like be like all right, well,
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: so Evan has the Patriots game next, like you know,
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: like stuff like that's.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Like the nerds.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, oh you know that was that was That was
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: my first shot out of college and it was it
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: was great, especially.
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: Because they were, you know, going in Super Bowls at.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: The time, and everybody like around you know, this is
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: the NFL network for people that aren't familiar, and everybody,
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: like in the news room would wear like jerseys and
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: of their favorite team. It was like we were all fans,
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: like very outworthly fans, so like you would want as
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: a Patriots fan, like you'd walk with your chest like this, right,
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: Like I would walk in on Sundays with the Brady
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: jersey on, and I'd be like he was kiss the
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: rings like you know, like it was like no one
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: else could you know, you have a Bears fan over here,
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: like a team you got shooters what.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I mean back in the day, like you know, we'd
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: have conferences and stuff with the league and you go
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: in as a Patriot employee. Oh it's like your royalty.
• 21:06
  Speaker 9: Well now it's even those days just as like I
• 21:09
  Speaker 9: used to love I used to say, wearing like my
• 21:11
  Speaker 9: Pats baseball hat to the airport was like my favorite
• 21:14
  Speaker 9: flex because of ts Age and so like screw New England.
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: You're like like living in la a lot of transplants
• 21:20
  Speaker 8: and that.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: So you know Greg Rosenthal who does the Around the
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: NFL podcast, big Patriots fan too, So him and I
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: would talk about the game.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: Really you can't tell if I'm listening to his analysis,
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: and it.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: Was it was a lot of fun.
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: Well, it's a little bit how I feel fred Maybe
• 21:35
  Speaker 8: coming up for the combine when we you know, we
• 21:36
  Speaker 8: might be the number two overall draft picks.
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: You walk in like, who are we going to pick?
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: A lot of flexing, A lot of flexing over the
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: years of the combine.
• 21:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, sure, Now we're gonna get actually to
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: get you know, to choose somebody really good, so it'll
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: be fun.
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: Usually you're staying away from like.
• 21:50
  Speaker 8: Like I mean last year, honestly, like I was, like,
• 21:51
  Speaker 8: I remember walking by Gonzalez and being like, I can't
• 21:54
  Speaker 8: even invest in this right now because it's not I
• 21:56
  Speaker 8: didn't think of the time that it was any way
• 21:57
  Speaker 8: that they were gonna be able to get them.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: I'm a little concerned because last year I was at
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: the I tried to ask Bryce Young a question about
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: Bill O'Brien, and so I went to the podium for
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: Bryce Young and the amount of people, like it's like
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: such a huge pack of people, but now we want
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: to talk to those people because they might be patriotic.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: It's not about the coordinator, it's about Drake may Is
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: at the podium and.
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: Like you got to get up there.
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like you're gonna get there early. You have to
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: get there early. And like camp out the night before
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: the picker.
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: You you got no chance.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Get that, get that, get that.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: I don't want you to looking at the top three picks.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Times have changed, all right? So what else do we
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: need to talk about about this game?
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: The defense? The Chiefs defense. I think that's how they.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Run the pressure has you know, Chris Jones has always
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: been a guy, but he's got there's other guys now
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: that are creating havoc for them.
• 22:50
  Speaker 8: Well, I think, I mean, I think it's interesting how
• 22:52
  Speaker 8: they're using Tree mcduffy, just you know, in hindsight, he
• 22:55
  Speaker 8: was a guy that we were all kind of seeing
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: patriotsy and you know Bill talking about just how they
• 22:59
  Speaker 8: use him as as I mean almost kind of like
• 23:01
  Speaker 8: Jonathan Jones pre before. Now he's become kind of a
• 23:03
  Speaker 8: full outside corner, but you know somebody who could be
• 23:06
  Speaker 8: on the outside. But then on third down they move
• 23:09
  Speaker 8: him into the slot and he can be really effective
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: on the blitzes. I mean if if if Douglas is back,
• 23:13
  Speaker 8: he'll probably you know, draw some some of McDuffie. I
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: think Snead is is having an underrated season. I mean
• 23:19
  Speaker 8: he's been really good for them too, so you know,
• 23:21
  Speaker 8: his park are able to get back and kind of
• 23:23
  Speaker 8: occupy him a little bit. I think those are a
• 23:25
  Speaker 8: couple of matchups just.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: Him, no name players in the secondary, but their stats
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: are really really good. Snead pass defense is really really strong.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're fifth in the league and dv A against
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: the pass, and they're they're really good disguised defense too,
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: Like they do a bunch of different things. They throw
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: a lot at you. They're really good at creating unblocked
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: their like free runners to the quarterback with their blitz
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: schemes there. This is a really really well coached defense.
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: And Spagnolo has had the Patriots number in the past
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: at times, and he's a really good defensive coordinator. And
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: I think when you look at ways that the Chiefs
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: could kind of blow out the Patriots in this game.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: It's the Patriots not being able to move the ball
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: offensively or turning the ball over like crazy, because that
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: Chiefs defense is legit.
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: I thought there are a couple just some of the
• 24:09
  Speaker 8: next gen stuff that stood out to me kind of
• 24:10
  Speaker 8: the similarities between two of the defenses and differences. They're
• 24:14
  Speaker 8: both second and third in dimes, so when we talking
• 24:16
  Speaker 8: about that all year, they play a ton of dime
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: and you know, twenty ninth and thirties and nickels, so
• 24:19
  Speaker 8: they like the dime sixth and Nathan man coverage twenty
• 24:22
  Speaker 8: fifth and twenty seventh and zone. So they're both man
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: heavy defenses. But where they kind of diverges single high.
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: Kansas City's thirty second and single high and they're first
• 24:32
  Speaker 8: in split safety. The Patriots are thirtieth and split safety
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: and eighth and single high. So you know, some similarities.
• 24:38
  Speaker 8: Some difference is just how they kind of do it strategically.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's next gen.
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: You said, yeah, this is the package package.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah they send us and you get the I don't
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: look at it.
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: I do my work.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but how do they like in fairness? I used
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: to look at it.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: But when you're talking about single high or split safety,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: a lot of teams start out that way.
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: And then it more start finished.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, like, that's how you finish, Okay, it
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: is how you finished.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: This is kind of context. This is gonna be a
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: weird progress so next year actually, which is really cool.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: This is really nerdy, but this is really cool. They
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: do pre snap safety shell and post snap safety shell,
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: so you can go into the database and sort.
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: This exactly day spin the dial.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: And uh they this though, these numbers are what they
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: played in the down right, Like this is post snap
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: coverage shell. All right, yeah, but.
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: I mean another part of this that I kind of
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: put together down was like every player has a tracking
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: device on them. I don't think any I haven't really,
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: I didn't really put it all together. But now that
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: we have access to this stuff, and that's you know,
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: it's all like computerized.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: It's not like somebody's sitting there like and the stuff
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: that they publish is only a fraction of what they
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: actually have.
• 25:48
  Speaker 12: I know.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: Their base that we play around with is awesome.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: You know, because the Competition Committee controls what they can
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: release as a result of all these sensors. And by
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: the way, there's not just sensors on the players, sensors
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: in different places on the field too.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: And I get someone in the ball so that we
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: can market properly.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Like they don't release all the stuff they have, because
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: the Competition Committee hasn't approved it.
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah you know, I mean, it's just it's they're tracking
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: wherever they are on the field, how fast they're moving,
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: when they're going, where they're going they take.
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's all they.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: Probably have, like their heartbeat rate.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: They they have, I believe it health analytics, but they
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: don't release that.
• 26:26
  Speaker 9: I would like to see at least what they're measuring.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: If you're not going to give us the actual info,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: like I'd want to.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: Know that we might be able to find that out.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: But the cool thing I think too, is like, so
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: you can go into the database that Deuce and I
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: have that I think that they're going to make available
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: to the public as like a paid subscription. And uh
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: so they have like a play page where it just
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: has all this information about that individual play and I'll
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: look at like what they call the coverage, and the
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: dots are like really really accurate, Like I only like
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: every once in a while I'll find one where I'm like,
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: it says quarter, but like I don't think this is quarters,
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: but like nine times out of ten it's right. It's
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: like really accurate data.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: It's really so expensive.
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's worth it. I mean, it's one.
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: It's probably my favorite job perk this year though, I mean,
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: just the things that we've been able to expand and
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: watch and it's fun.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Evan's right. I know it's either going to be part
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: of the NFL.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: For the reason why I'm with Dynasa, you.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Know, it's either going to be part of NFL Plus
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: or an enhanced NFL Plus where you can pay and
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: get access to all this stuff. But can you imagine
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: when that happens all the arm chair.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: Much worse than this, I don't know.
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: That's why I feel like we've already crosted.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: All these cottage industry websites are going to pop up,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: Just the page two that I really love is so
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: each quarterback has like a profile page. So like when
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: I'm doing game plan every single week, I can pull
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: up the opposing quarterback and it has all the splits
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: of everything that they track, So like like Mahomes is
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: splits against Cover one versus Cover two like it has
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: it all like in one spot and you can see
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: the like side by comparisons, which makes it like so
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: much easier for people like me that are really getting
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: into the nitty gritty of the matchups. I'm a great
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: spokesperson for them too.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Man, I'm with you.
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: I should really I want to start a fun for
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: Taylor Kyle's to make sure he gets it, because I
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: feel like he he would absolutely.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: I don't want to. I don't want to blow up
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: his spot, but I think he has a login from.
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: Oh good, yeah, okay, yeah, good for him, all right.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: And I just think it's not about like whether or
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: not anybody is any good at it. That's why I said,
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: you know, like not this is not necessarily say I
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: just feel like everybody does this now, Like when initially
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: became available to the there's a niche for people, and
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: I know that some people really really like it. I
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: just that takes all the enjoyment from the game.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: I think for me, the big thing for me is like,
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: so I'll watch like the Packers Chiefs game and I'll
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: be like, oh, it seemed like the Packers played a
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: lot of like cover two in this game, and then
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: I can actually tangibly tell you how often they played
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: cover two, whereas like otherwise I would have had to
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: like you.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: To fly by the CDA pants like no, otherwise I
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: have to.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: Do it by hand like i'd have to. And this
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: that this saves me so much time because I don't
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: have to do it by hand.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: Did you see this stuff about poisingis and his points
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: per possession and uh points in the post? And like
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: I just like sometimes just kill me if I need
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: to watch the game.
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: And there are some.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: People who are doing it analysis that you know, say
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: that they watched every game twice.
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: That's why I heard every that's the new thing. You're
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: got it once?
• 29:28
  Speaker 10: Do you?
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: How do you have time?
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: Like, all, right, here we go.
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: What do we got here?
• 29:31
  Speaker 8: The Giants myself watched basically the Giants and the Chargers
• 29:35
  Speaker 8: with the back of quarterback.
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: Let's round two, let's go. I got it again?
• 29:39
  Speaker 8: Imagine I think it is just watch my but like
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: in all seriousness, like that's what I like about football though,
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: is that like there's so much going on that like
• 29:48
  Speaker 8: you can watch it that way and you can have
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: plenty to say, or you can if you really want
• 29:52
  Speaker 8: to get into the nitty gritty and that's your thing,
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: then then go for it.
• 29:55
  Speaker 7: You know, it's just I think there's just twenty two
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: guys on the field at all times, and you don't.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's been a calls gift is he can
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: watch it and take it.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say maybe if I watched the game twice,
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: I remember if it was eighteen or nineteen, the High
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: Tower had that pick.
• 30:07
  Speaker 9: That's one of my favorite things. It's Tommy Hinzen and
• 30:10
  Speaker 9: Mike Gorman. They called their first game together. Mike had
• 30:12
  Speaker 9: all his stack of stuff. Mike Gorman threw it off
• 30:16
  Speaker 9: the balcony.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: You don't know what it was like.
• 30:20
  Speaker 9: We're gonna watch the game and talk about what we see.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Tommy had the stack.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: Toperation and Tommy.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Oh when I see like So's four or five?
• 30:33
  Speaker 8: But if So she's got you know, I mean, it's
• 30:34
  Speaker 8: just those guys to play by play like and I'm like,
• 30:36
  Speaker 8: how do you come up with some of these like
• 30:37
  Speaker 8: stats and stuff. I mean, you have to constantly be talking,
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: and of course you need things to go to. But yeah,
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: everybody can watch it their own way and take what
• 30:43
  Speaker 8: they want, and we talked about.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: No, you have to have to do it, just break
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: down the film.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: You have to what do you know?
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: Nothing?
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: You don't even look at next gien.
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: But it's like, for example, like I mean this year,
• 30:53
  Speaker 8: like I'll just sit down and watch the third downs,
• 30:55
  Speaker 8: Like that's usually what I do on Mondays is just
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: the big down and you know, just look again, see
• 30:59
  Speaker 8: what happened?
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: What did you this looking? You know, there's so many
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: different what cold strange do on this play?
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: Those he gets tied up next week and you don't
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: have time just to ask, no, down what.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Was strange to me? It doesn't, you know, enhance my
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: enjoyment of the game at all, to know, oh you
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: know what the splits were?
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: You know either, But but I get why it does
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: for something.
• 31:21
  Speaker 9: It can be so manipulated though, like you can add
• 31:23
  Speaker 9: any context you want to a number. You can take
• 31:26
  Speaker 9: the same shat and argue it both ways of the argument.
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: So it's which we sometimes needs to do so but
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: I think that you know, like people like Paul, which
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: I this is why I like working with Paul is
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: because like you see the forest right and like you
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: can see the big picture of because like sometimes I'm
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: so in the next gen that like my I get
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: lost about like what's you know, the big picture stuff
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: and you know that that as to why we hired
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: them and uh and Barth's the same way, like that's
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: why we're you know, we have the podcast together is
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: because Barth is more of like he hates this stuff.
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: He's like, oh, really he's an old when it comes.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: To Oh, I never would have thought that.
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, hates it. Yeah, So I get it.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: Sounds like he's really into all the the analytics and
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: metrics in the college. You know what bugs me about
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: analytics just as a little tangent that every time HiT's
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: a fourth down now they have to tell you the
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: analytics say to go for it. It's like it's going
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: forward on fourth down or not is not analytics. It's
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: like what you like, what the coach decides to do.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: What's going on in the game at the time, who's
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: on the field, who's healthy, like all that.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: But I think like this stuff that you're breaking down,
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: like Evan's saying that they're in splits and then that's analytics.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: That's actual metric data of how teams play over the
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: course of a season, whether or not to go for
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: it on fourth down is a coaching decision. Yeah, Like
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: I understand that. You you can look at the percentages
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: of success rate on fourth down, you know, fourth and
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: three or less or whatever, and then you can make that.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: But I just it bugs me the way that the
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: announcers automatically, well the analytics say to go for it. Oh,
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: well that guy should be fired right now then, because
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: to go for.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: The one I hate now is when you're down by
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: two scores and I still don't.
• 33:12
  Speaker 8: Get that, and they always explain it like and then know,
• 33:14
  Speaker 8: of course this is the thing to do now, so
• 33:16
  Speaker 8: you know.
• 33:18
  Speaker 12: It.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: To steal Alex's phrase, they may explain it to you
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: like this is why you're an ignorant boob and don't
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: understand it. I get it, I understand it, Like Fred,
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: I don't agree with it. There's a huge difference there.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: But even something night and it worked a perfection.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think like a lot of the thing too.
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: And so when it comes to analytics, Barth is super
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: anti win probability, anything that's predicting the future. He's hard
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: out on. So like that's why he hates Brandon Staley,
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: right is because Brandon Staley is a go for it
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: on fourth down kind of guy. So he he he
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: hates that kind of stuff, but like I try to
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: do more of like the actual like E p A,
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: dv A. That type of stuff is not predictive. It's
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: what's actually happened. It's a stat But with the win
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: probability stuff, it's like Fred's point, if you don't have
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: a good play call to go for it on fourth down,
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: then what difference does it make, Like if you don't
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: have the right play call, if you don't have the personnel,
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: if you don't have all these different things like, then
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: it's not a good decision, even though the mat tells
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: you that it's a.
• 34:17
  Speaker 9: Good It's just the fine balance between in the logic, yeah,
• 34:21
  Speaker 9: logic and intuition, and.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: That analytics data is generated off of the amount of
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: teams that have gone forward on fourth and three or
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: less and converted. So if you go for a fourth
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: and two from your opponent's thirty four yard line in
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: the second quarter and get it, is that the same
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: as going for fourth and two on your own eleven
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: up four with a minute left in the game.
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: Well, some probably like.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: Your ability of getting that are not the same.
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: Some some models do factor in game situations and the
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: risk involved.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Like it, they'll just put the analyis well fourth and
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: three or less I should go.
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: I mean, like, yeah, I love Devon's point. That was
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: exactly what the one I was going to make was
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: just like we had to play ca We had to play.
• 35:00
  Speaker 7: We really liked there, Like you just you can't factor that,
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: like we didn't have the guy we usually run it too.
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: You know those kind of things.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: I know you can't do it, but it was interesting
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: experiment to have. You know, one team is signed to
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: only make decisions based on the stats.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: That's that's the Los Angeles Chargers.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Just a cold person I have to do it. You know,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: it's just a robot on the sideline, you know coult.
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: You know, you could dress them up, put him in
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: a hoodie.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: But I do think that that's where analytics gets a
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: bad name. It's because like there's a difference between DVA
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: and win probability based off of fourth down decision, right,
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: Like DVA is a number that's based off of what's
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: happened in the games, tangibly, what's happened in the games.
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: It's not predicting the future. Like I get why people
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: don't like the stuff that predicts the future because you
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: can never know.
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: No, I love TV, I miss it. I miss win probability.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Well, what if you have a bad coach?
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: You know, then doesn't factor that plus Yeah, I mean
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: everybody knows. Like in that situation, like it's the last
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: minute of the game, you're up, you need a first
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: down and game. Yeah, obviously if you get the first down,
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: the game is over. But it's not like you lose
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: if you punt and play defense like the Patriots did
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: last week. Yeah, you know, you don't lose if you
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: don't get it, if you don't go for it, which
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: is to Evan's point, that's the win probability. Well, you
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: decreased your win probability by passing up an opportunity to
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: go for it on fourth down.
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't understand the I don't understand the go
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: for two down eight things or whatever that.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: Well there's two of them, you know, when you're down fourteen,
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: So you get it to eight, right, And that's what
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: Vrabel did last week. And the thought process is that
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: it's a fifty to fifty two point conversion, so you're
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: going to get one out of the two, which I
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: think is highly highly flawed. Yep. I don't think that
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: every two point conversion gives you a fifty percent chance
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: of making it. And the other one that I think
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: is even worse than that is when you get to
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: within nine and people want to go for two to
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: make it seven out of eight, which I think leaves
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: you two scores at least the fourteen one, you've cut
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: it to one score. You've cut it to eight, so
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: you're down one score.
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: Well, it wasn't for you to make it the nine.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: Whether you make it or not, you're down eight.
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: The nine argument is that you're gonna need the two
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: points eventually anyways, so you're going for it now so
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: that you have you know what you need in the future.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: Again, I get it. I just highly disagree with it.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: But Belichick has always said extend the game as long
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: as you can, you know, so leave that too for
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: the end instead.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: Of like the down fourteen, you get the first touchdown.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: You can sell me on that. I don't agree, but
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: you can sell me on it because to me, just
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: kick it and if you really want to go for
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: the win at the end, just go for the win. Yeah,
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: your chances of getting the two point conversion down one
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: with two seconds left isn't any different.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: Right, But the difference is is that if you wait
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: to the end of the game to go for two
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: and you don't get it, it's game over.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: If you go for it earlier in the game, then.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: You might don't get it. You said you have to
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: get it at the end of the game or the
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: game is over, right, nothing's changed.
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it is changed because you still have like four
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: minutes to make up for the fact that you didn't
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: get it.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no. What I'm saying is you're down fourteen. Yeah,
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: so you get to within eight like Fabel did the
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: other night, and his thought is I'd rather go for
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: two with four minutes left than with thirty seconds left.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: Right to me, it doesn't change. You had to get
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: them anyway. You had to get one of them anyway.
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: Right, And my but my point is is that what
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: the what the nerds would tell you is that it's
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: better to know now that you didn't get it than
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: to know when the game is over because you can't
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: make up for it. Like if you have four minutes
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: and you know that you're down nine points because you
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: didn't get the two point conversion, then you have time
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: to potentially.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: You've intentionally grossly lessened your chance to win by going
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: by by doing the nine, not the eight. The eight's
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: different because that's still one score, right, but the nine.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: And like the Cowboys did this a couple of years
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: ago against the Falcons. Yes, Mike, it was a red
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: zone that help know that, and he got away with
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: it because they recovered the on side kick. The on
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: side kick shouldn't have been a necessity in the game
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: if you had just kicked an extra point.
• 39:05
  Speaker 8: It makes me wonder if all this stuff was out
• 39:08
  Speaker 8: there in twenty sixteen for twenty eight to three, how
• 39:10
  Speaker 8: like you know what I mean, what they what would
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: they have been talking about because they only.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: Well I'll tell you right now, the analytics would have
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: killed the first field goal.
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah right, well they killed it.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: They definitely had the percentage chance to win at that time.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: No, but remember it was twenty eight to three and
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: they drove down and I want to say that they
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: they kicked a field goal first, or did they get
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: a touchdown first?
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: You think I remember they make it twenty eight to ten.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: No, I know it was a field It was a
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: field goal, yea. And they would have killed that field
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: goal down twenty What did they I mean kicking a
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: field goal?
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: I remember the two point to Amondola.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they had two tubs they had to get too
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: shield screams. I think they kicked two field That one
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: was twenty eight to nine, right, I don't remember.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's twenty eight to nine.
• 39:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, and then they got But that's all they
• 39:52
  Speaker 8: would have been talking about in the booth is like, well,
• 39:53
  Speaker 8: so they'd be going for it here.
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: They should have, you know, all.
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: The Amazon aws on the bottom of the screen when
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: probably ability Amazon.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would have been a great game to talk
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: about all that. You know, how do you factor in
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: the other team making just one bad decision after another
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: down the stretch.
• 40:10
  Speaker 7: Right, you know, I know.
• 40:11
  Speaker 8: It's just it's interesting if it would have affected them
• 40:13
  Speaker 8: at all, or if they would have just done what
• 40:15
  Speaker 8: they do anyway, all.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Right, eight five five Pats five hundred is the ace
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: ticket hotline. Web radio at Patriots dot com is the
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: email address. Got a hurry, so let's get our listeners involved.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Patty's and agawam. What's up Patty afternoon?
• 40:31
  Speaker 10: Everyone?
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, how are you in a submarine?
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: What are you doing I'm driving.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Okay, got.
• 40:39
  Speaker 13: A couple of quick questions and I'll get up there
• 40:42
  Speaker 13: because I know you guys got a hurry. My first
• 40:45
  Speaker 13: one is regarding to Anthony and pretty Jennings. To me,
• 40:47
  Speaker 13: he's probably, I think this year, has been one of
• 40:50
  Speaker 13: the top four defensive players along with you Gryl Peppers,
• 40:54
  Speaker 13: Juwan Bentley, and Christian Barmore. And do you think, regardless
• 40:58
  Speaker 13: of Wheather builds backer, do you think he's one of
• 41:01
  Speaker 13: the guys that they should just sort of prioritize signing
• 41:04
  Speaker 13: after the season is over and second player.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, we're losing Anthony Jennings because he's been
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: talking to everybody about Anthony.
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: J Yeah, I'm gonna have something tomorrow on Anthony Jennings.
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: I think he's, you know, obviously been one of their
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: better players. I agree with that. I think the biggest thing,
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: you know, talking to him yesterday in the locker room
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: was his rookie season. He comes in, it's COVID, so
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: he has no training camp, no ot as really, and
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: then they also are trying to work him off the
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: ball and play inside linebacker. So Drod Mayo owned I
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: thought yesterday when I asked him about Jennings and just said,
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: like we had to figure it out as coaches first, Like,
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: it wasn't anything that Anthony was doing wrong. We just
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: had him playing the wrong position. And now that he's
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: playing the position he should be. And I think a
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: lot of the coaches are not surprised at all as
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: to how well he's been playing. He just opportunity position,
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: you know, all those types of things just haven't fallen
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: his way in the first three years. But a lot
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: of those guys too, you know, Steve mentioned that, like
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: they felt like he played good football last year. Also,
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: it just wasn't as much, you know, in terms of snaps.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: So now that we're just kind of noticing him more
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: because he's been playing more, and they felt like this
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: is kind of the guy they've had now for two years.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: So having said that priority signing.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: If they're running this type of defense, then then yeah,
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: that's a good point. Absolutely, Like, you know.
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: I think that they're number one in the league and
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: pretty much every major category against the run, yards per
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: carry included, and if they're gonna run this type of defense,
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: I don't think it's a coincidence that Anthony Jennings is
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: playing a lot more and now all of a sudden,
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: the best run defense in the NFL. I don't think
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: that's a coincidence. So if they're running a Belichick set
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: the edge, sturdy edge setters, you know, then yeah, I
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: think that that he's a priority.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: That he has any upside in the past game as well.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: That's the hard part.
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: I think that that is the hard part. He's statistically
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: he's near the bottom of the league and a lot
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: of like pressure metrics, you know.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: But is that just because of the situations that he's
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: been put in.
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: I wonder I thought about that too, because I think
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: in a lot of ways they don't want him to
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: keep the quarterback in the pocket, you know, like they're
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: trying to get him to set the edge and keep
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: the quarterback in the pocket and let you know, bar More,
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: let Uce, let those guys handle pressuring the quarterback. So
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: I think there's definitely something to be said for that.
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: And you know, he lines up mostly over the right tackle,
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: which is Wrighty quarterback arm side for the quarterback, and
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: I think a lot of it is just keep the
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: quarterback in the pocket.
• 43:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think what's interesting for me is just the
• 43:36
  Speaker 8: kind of the divergent pass that him and josh Ucha
• 43:38
  Speaker 8: have taken. And I mean, when was the last time he
• 43:39
  Speaker 8: heard anybody kind of excited about josh Ucca here? Like
• 43:42
  Speaker 8: this year, I mean it's a contract year for him.
• 43:43
  Speaker 8: Last year he was kind of getting this I think
• 43:45
  Speaker 8: moment in.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: The sun off without shoot on it there.
• 43:48
  Speaker 8: Like last year he had this moment in the sun
• 43:49
  Speaker 8: that I feel like Anthony Jennings is having right now.
• 43:51
  Speaker 8: Anthony Jennings, you know, just went to the podium on today,
• 43:53
  Speaker 8: but as a good football player.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: And it's and it's so shocking to me.
• 43:57
  Speaker 8: And I said this to Evan yesterday as we were
• 43:58
  Speaker 8: talking about off the ball stuff, was like, that's what
• 44:01
  Speaker 8: he did at Alabama, Like why like most like, why
• 44:03
  Speaker 8: did you try to move him inside? Like he's not
• 44:05
  Speaker 8: an inside player like he's always been.
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: This is what he was.
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: He's Alabama physical dude, right, Like play in that much
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: space off the ball.
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: So I think there's value in it.
• 44:13
  Speaker 8: But again, it's it's interesting how you kind of play
• 44:16
  Speaker 8: those two off of each other. And we said it
• 44:17
  Speaker 8: since they were drafted, if you could combine the two,
• 44:19
  Speaker 8: you'd probably.
• 44:20
  Speaker 7: Have, you know, a superstar kind of a player.
• 44:22
  Speaker 8: But you know what a tough decision to make with
• 44:24
  Speaker 8: Ouch who brings definitely some value against the pass. It's
• 44:27
  Speaker 8: a passing league, you know, but Jennings is kind of
• 44:30
  Speaker 8: a tough tone setting.
• 44:31
  Speaker 7: You know, you'd love to have him.
• 44:32
  Speaker 8: As like your third outside linebacker when you're playing a
• 44:34
  Speaker 8: run heavy team. You've got that in the bag that
• 44:36
  Speaker 8: you can put him out there and you know he's
• 44:37
  Speaker 8: going to take care of the edge. But I do
• 44:39
  Speaker 8: think that just the lack of pass rush production is
• 44:42
  Speaker 8: a concern and that might scare some other teams off
• 44:44
  Speaker 8: because you know, he's kind of specialized in that way.
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think has had some flashes of what we
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: saw last year when he's had the opportunities. But when
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: last year, as much as they weren't a great team
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: last year either, they did play a lot of games
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: with leads, and like when you play leads in the
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: fourth quarter, then that allows pass rushers to tee off
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: and get after quarterbacks and things like that, and this
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: year I just feel like they haven't been in that
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: position very often.
• 45:08
  Speaker 9: I think also really excuse me benefited from playing alongside
• 45:13
  Speaker 9: Judon command so much. Where Judon goes down and we're
• 45:17
  Speaker 9: all like, Okay, what is this pass rush going to do?
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: What are the what's the linebacker situation going to look like?
• 45:22
  Speaker 9: In the very first game that Judon was out, Anthony
• 45:25
  Speaker 9: had a great game and really stepped up and it
• 45:27
  Speaker 9: was like kind of like his arrival in some way.
• 45:30
  Speaker 7: Very good point.
• 45:30
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that's and that affect the whole defense,
• 45:32
  Speaker 8: and I mean that they're not mentioned. I mean the
• 45:34
  Speaker 8: thirtieth this year against the pass and the pas. I mean,
• 45:37
  Speaker 8: you know, it's not like he's a part of this
• 45:39
  Speaker 8: well rounded defense. I mean, Judon went out, they had
• 45:43
  Speaker 8: to put a run stopper kind of in there. They've
• 45:45
  Speaker 8: been better against the run, they've dropped off against the pass.
• 45:47
  Speaker 8: And that's why, you know, going back to the conversation
• 45:49
  Speaker 8: earlier this week of letting Judon go, like they got to.
• 45:52
  Speaker 7: Get pass rushed, they got to get pass rush this offseason.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Spiing Fresno back to the analytics think, he says, Mike
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: dressing for the role of Eric today.
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah, oh absolutely, I got some good news about it.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Anyway.
• 46:03
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, got himself a jobby not quite yet,
• 46:06
  Speaker 8: but he's in the mix.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: He's in the mix anyway.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, I took a shot. It's Christmas.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Anyway, to Evan's comment earlier today, I don't understand why
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: the league doesn't have sensors embedded in the balls, perimeter
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: for spots, breaking down the plane and all that. They
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: can afford any tech they want, like cyclops, Hawkeye and tennis.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: These seem to like no brain or good ideas if
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: they're accurate enough. What am I missing in the chain?
• 46:35
  Speaker 9: Do we know that theyons?
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: I know they don't use the tech tho, But do
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: we know that the balls don't have sensors?
• 46:41
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: I mean they could have, they're just not using I
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: think they. I mean when you talk about.
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: The dots fall, when you talk about.
• 46:46
  Speaker 7: The dots you see, I mean the balls there. I
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: mean maybe yeah.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: The mas to me are even more why they're not
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: like laser lasers. So it's exactly.
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: With freaking laser beams.
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: Where still we still.
• 46:59
  Speaker 9: Have the little pylon too, Like it would it would
• 47:02
  Speaker 9: be so easy.
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: It's twenty in twenty twenty three and we're still spotting
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: the ball by our eyeballs with the chain game right
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: with are to see?
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: But now I don't know, like and I've heard a
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: lot of stuff about the chip and the ball. I'm
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: not exactly sure how that works in terms of spotting
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: the ball, because it's gonna spot where the ball is,
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: not where the guy went down. So I'm not necessarily
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: sure you're fixing them because I think the spotting of
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: the ball is a major problem in the league.
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think if you like went back and were
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: cared enough to see, like how oft like it's probably
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: like one hundred yards a game that they're like, really.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: I think you could make a correction on virtually every play.
• 47:39
  Speaker 8: And I mean imagine if it was instantaneous too, Like
• 47:41
  Speaker 8: the computers are just processing where the sensors are. He
• 47:43
  Speaker 8: guy's got to run, Boom, he's out of bounce boom.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: It's but it's not telling you where where the guy,
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: like the knee in the ball might not be in
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: the same.
• 47:51
  Speaker 9: I feel like it Okay, So it would have to
• 47:52
  Speaker 9: be set up to like a playback system where you
• 47:54
  Speaker 9: have the play simultaneously. You could pause it right when
• 47:57
  Speaker 9: the kne goes down and right where that play is
• 47:59
  Speaker 9: paused computer.
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: I think a computer could figure.
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: That at the point, But you're stopping the game to
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: do it.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: They don't want to slow the game.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: Now, all the rest of the stuff, you guys are exactly.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: I don't know how you can have a chain that's
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: ten maybe ten yards right apart, because that's why they stay.
• 48:16
  Speaker 7: Exactly the chain because.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Arbitrary l from Wisconsin the fourth down thing that annoys
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: me so much. It annoys me so much too. He said,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: it's only based on teams that did go for fourth down,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: which is then based on the coaches making a decision
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: based on the game situation. Reminds me of the old
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: joke and statistics. One hundred people who had played Russian
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Roulette were surveyed and they all survived. Therefore, Russian Roulette
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: has one hundred percent survival rate.
• 48:44
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that's kind of like the plane thing.
• 48:46
  Speaker 8: They did the study in World War Two when they
• 48:47
  Speaker 8: found where the planes had all been shot and they're like,
• 48:50
  Speaker 8: those are the areas that have to be protected, Like, no,
• 48:52
  Speaker 8: that's the areas that you can let go because these
• 48:54
  Speaker 8: are the planes that came back. So right, the areas
• 48:56
  Speaker 8: that aren't all shot up are the ones that need
• 48:58
  Speaker 8: to be protected because those are the planes that aren't surviving.
• 49:00
  Speaker 7: World World War two.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: There there we go.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: I blacked out.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. Let's go back to the
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: A sticket houtline. Nick Baby loves on the phone. What's
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: up neck? How you doing?
• 49:14
  Speaker 12: Hey?
• 49:14
  Speaker 14: It's been a long struggle, Fred, so very simply I
• 49:17
  Speaker 14: want to talk about Bellow Chicks. But let me just say,
• 49:21
  Speaker 14: as usual, me and you have been around for a
• 49:24
  Speaker 14: hundred years at least before everybody. This girl Alex here
• 49:32
  Speaker 14: is very articulate, an incredible choice.
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: I just got just started last week, and this is.
• 49:37
  Speaker 14: Coming from me, and you make me and the guy
• 49:43
  Speaker 14: Evan had me on the previous show. I just happened
• 49:46
  Speaker 14: to call in and he's old school, but I mean,
• 49:51
  Speaker 14: see he's new school, but I'm I'm old school. But
• 49:54
  Speaker 14: the guy's very good. So two great choices. And you
• 49:58
  Speaker 14: know I love you, Fred, and you know I care
• 50:01
  Speaker 14: very much about my man from holy Cross. That's my town, Wooster. Yeah,
• 50:06
  Speaker 14: and of course Paul is myon. But basically, Fred, I'm
• 50:12
  Speaker 14: pretty much heartbroken with Tom Curran and all this BS.
• 50:17
  Speaker 14: I mean, Fred, let me ask you one question. I
• 50:19
  Speaker 14: know nobody knows this, but don't the Patriots Jonathan to
• 50:25
  Speaker 14: everybody in the front office. Don't they run it like
• 50:29
  Speaker 14: the CIA the Patriots office.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean nobody knows. Nobody knows, yeah.
• 50:35
  Speaker 14: Exactly, So why put all this garbage out when? And
• 50:41
  Speaker 14: by the way, please keep party. That's one of my
• 50:45
  Speaker 14: best friends, you know what I mean, my very.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Good friend office. As long as he wants to stay,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: he's welcome here.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're in trouble in that incredible the morning of
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: the morning. I don't think we have much of a
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: shot of keeping him king to make ye.
• 51:00
  Speaker 14: Well, But anyway, so they just finish up. I don't
• 51:04
  Speaker 14: want to go crazy or whatever. But as far as Belichick,
• 51:08
  Speaker 14: isn't there a thing called loyalty? And I think people
• 51:11
  Speaker 14: don't realize this. Mister Kraft, the most important thing in
• 51:18
  Speaker 14: his life is what's going on in Israel. So you
• 51:21
  Speaker 14: know Belichick, I mean, you know, he just be He
• 51:26
  Speaker 14: just destroyed the stealer season at Pittsburgh. And don't tell
• 51:31
  Speaker 14: me the players ain't playing for him. No, that just
• 51:33
  Speaker 14: doesn't have a lot of good players. Yeah, so God
• 51:37
  Speaker 14: bless y'all. Look at Fred. You know, I love You'll
• 51:40
  Speaker 14: I'll talk to you off the Paul.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: I'll text you too, all right, you know it's funny
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: because I was, uh, Nick's an old timer, he's been
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: around for a while.
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: Passion, yeah, a lot of passions.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: And this morning I dropped my car off and I
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: had somebody from the dealership give me a ride here.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Oh guy, what do you do over there? If you
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: tell him? So you think they're gonna get rid of Belichick?
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, I think this is it. No
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: way I'll never get rid of him. Are you kidding me?
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: That'd be crazy?
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: Why you ask?
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: You know, so like there is that sentiment out there,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: like it's unheard of to even think about it. Yeah,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: This is why I tell you. And I know you
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: think it's my straw man, you know, but there are
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: definitely people I think it's not just that it's not
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: going to happen, that it's crazy.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard it even suggest I heard it this morning.
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: You know, there are a lot of chist there in
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: the Globe mentioned.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: That he had the TV critic thinks that they should
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: hold on to the head here.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: But I was thinking about, you know, I might have
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: mentioned it yesterday about Bill and like, you know what
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: might be going through his mind? Like if I was him,
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: I'd be kind of excited because the world's my oyster
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: right now. I can do anything I want. If I
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: tell a network I want to work for you, they'll
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: be how much do you want? If I tell Mike
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Rabel Orbel, I'm sorry that I want to be you know,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: how does commissioner of the PLL sound? How much do
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: you want?
• 53:07
  Speaker 12: Bill?
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: If I go to college, I could be coaching at Navy.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, whatever I want to do. They're going to
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: open the door, and I think that's an exciting place
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: to be for a human being.
• 53:17
  Speaker 9: There's all this talk to you about how it's the
• 53:20
  Speaker 9: craft's firing him, and but like every report I read,
• 53:23
  Speaker 9: fires never used. There's a myriad of reasons or various reasons.
• 53:28
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: I just come back to.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Like these guys, it's it's the end of the season.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: I think we're going to mutually part ways. How do
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: you what? I just fired you?
• 53:41
  Speaker 10: Right?
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: You didn't. So if you're built you.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: Started last week, like what is it like this this
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: parsing of words, they're going to find a way to mutually.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: I thought you were going somewhere where I and I agree.
• 53:55
  Speaker 9: If you're built through another rebuild or do you want
• 53:58
  Speaker 9: to go break down Jula's wreck wherever you want.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, what I mean.
• 54:01
  Speaker 15: I think these guys have worked together over it, kind
• 54:04
  Speaker 15: of like the Tom Belichick or the Tom Brady sorry
• 54:09
  Speaker 15: the Belichick Brady right, if they worked together so long,
• 54:11
  Speaker 15: like it just wasn't working anymore.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: They need If Bill Belichick comes out and says, yeah,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: you know, it was time for me. I want to
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: take this other opportunity. That's the best case scenario for
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: Robert Kraft. That lets him off the total, that lets.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: Him But I do think there's an element of I
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: wonder if Bill really wants to return here. I think
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: he still wants to coach, but I wonder if he's.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: Not nice to him.
• 54:35
  Speaker 9: I think it's probably a personal and I would don't
• 54:38
  Speaker 9: blame him.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: But then you hear the people say, why would he
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: ever want to leave. He's got his house in Nantucket,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: which is which he can fly.
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: I was going to say, more money than he could.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: That's his daughters down the street at holy Cross.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: I'm still here for that's always going to be here though.
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: It just thinks because like eight and nine last year
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: wasn't good enough. But it's they were competitive, like they
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: almost you know, they were one game out of the playoffs,
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: like to sit through.
• 55:05
  Speaker 9: A quarterback development again, probably like.
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: Being three and ten just changes so much because if
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: he had stumbled here, he probably needs what like two
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: more years to pass Shulam. If he at least three
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: years here, maybe No, isn't he like nineteen short?
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: He's I think he's fifteen short. But like, now, let's
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: assume that he doesn't win the rest. Yeah, I mean,
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: let's say he wins two more, so he's thirteen short.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: You think he's getting thirteen next year, that's like two
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: more years, right.
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: So two more years. But like my point being is
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: that if they stumbled to Shool his record eight and nine,
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: nine and eight, eight and nine, nine and eight, Like
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: I could live with keeping him for that because of
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: what he's done for the organization. But you can't be
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: three and ten, you just you can't have a bottom
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: out that That's where it becomes. That's why his job
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: is being questioned, is because if they were just a
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: middling team and he stumbled his way to Shool his record,
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: and then after he passed shula he stepped down and retiredired, fine,
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: but you can't be terrible.
• 56:03
  Speaker 8: That's the thing that just real quick, Fred, like the
• 56:04
  Speaker 8: point to me, Like I just think he wants like
• 56:06
  Speaker 8: he is what he wants.
• 56:07
  Speaker 7: This is what he wants to do. He wants to
• 56:09
  Speaker 7: coach and control a football team.
• 56:11
  Speaker 8: And I just I don't really see I think that's
• 56:13
  Speaker 8: what he that's his dream and he's living it. And
• 56:15
  Speaker 8: like there's part of me, like you mentioned him coaching
• 56:17
  Speaker 8: the Navy, like I could still just see him going
• 56:19
  Speaker 8: to some small school or like I'm not want to.
• 56:21
  Speaker 7: Say high school, but like not maybe like that's just what.
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: He wants to do, some high school kid.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: But Sharon, Sharon's coach just resigned.
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: So Bill, come on random?
• 56:30
  Speaker 7: Really yeah, oh boy, because they watch, they're bumping them up.
• 56:34
  Speaker 8: Oh we are on watch for sure. He's the starting
• 56:37
  Speaker 8: quarterback and waiting is a job.
• 56:39
  Speaker 7: Might be a little tenuears.
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: Boy, we'll keep that off a different kind of offense.
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: So like, can you imagine just being like some random
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: kid playing for a high school and Bill Belichick comes
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: in and he's like, you know, like i'd be interested
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: in your job. I just want to coach, that's all.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: You just want to football.
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: Then he can win every game thirteen to ten happy.
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: I love that for him.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Jace Pettigrew the most friend doesn't want to play in
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: the world, says loyalty for Bill show Bill as much
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: loyalty as Bill showed Tom WHOA.
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: Wait a second, though, because I disagree with that, because
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: I think there was a lot of loyalty and letting
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: him walk, I think I think so well.
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: I think that was a Robert decision. Give Robert a
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: lot of credit.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: Totally.
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: I totally agree with you on that.
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: Like there's a lot of loyalty in the fact that
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: it was, like you have earned the right to make
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: this decision on your own merit. If you want to stay,
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: we will obviously love to have you back. If you
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: want to go, we understand. And he decided to go.
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: And I'm not like saying that Brady made it like
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: to say that negatively about Brady, but I look at
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: this Belichick situation.
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: And think it might go over and I know, like
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: you know, and Alex, you just brought up like you
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: are afraid to look back with regret, and I mean,
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: there's always risk, there's a chance. And I look at
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: like the Brady thing and I kind of agree with
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: the way Evan just put that do. I wish that
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: Brady finished his career absolutely as a honk, as a
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: season ticket holder, long before I ever worked here. Yes,
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: I wish Tom Brady finished his career here, but he
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: didn't want to and they let him go. It doesn't
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: bother me more that it unfolded the way it did.
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: I think that there was a very logical way of
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: looking at a guy that was approaching his mid forties
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: who wasn't going to be able to do it forever.
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: He played three more years. They were kind of right now.
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: He won a title and that makes you look bad,
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: and I get it. You have to live with that.
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: But they knew he wasn't going to be the quarterback
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: for another ten years, just like I know that Brady
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: Belichick is not going to coach somebody for another ten years.
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: It's not going to happen. So he might go somewhere
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: and have some success. But I got to live with that,
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: and I got to say, he's not the guy that's
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: the future of my team.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: Jessica and California. There's so much chatter about how Robert
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Craft should show some loyalty for all that Bill Belichick
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: has done for the Patriots. I think we can all
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: agree we owe him a great deal of gratitude. But
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: where was Bill's loyalty to Tom Brady for all he
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: did for the franchise? Robert Kraft should show Bill the
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: same loyalty that Bill showed Tom, which wasn't much at
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: the end. As Taylor Swift says about karma, it's coming
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: back around.
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: Anybody who's that one.
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: But like to that email, I can't really like someone
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: made the other side to me of how Bill didn't
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: show because he didn't give him the contract that he wanted, Like.
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: Bill didn't want him. But that's fine, Like, like I said,
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: you can disagree with it, but they weren't really wrong.
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: And they also, like I just I pushed back on
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: the hole that they weren't. Like I feel like the
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: most like the biggest thing that they could have done
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: in that situation was give him the choice, and they
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: that's what they did. Like not being loyal to Brady
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: would have been to like go scort shirt and like
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: try to franchise tag him or try to trade him
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: or like something like that, and they didn't do that.
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: No, I think Robert stepped in and said, if you
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: want to go, we're gonna let you go respect, And
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: I think that's what he should do with Bill. I
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: think that to me is showing loyalty.
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  Speaker 8: And what would it have been like watching Tom Brady
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 8: on that twenty twenty Patriots team?
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 7: Like how like? I mean that would almost be like
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 7: a punishment.
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  Speaker 6: What's up everybody? Bailey Zappi spoke with the media yesterday.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 6: Let's listen to what he had to say.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but how was a week like coming in after
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: which guys.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 12: Were able to accomplish in Pittsburgh. Yeah, it was good.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 12: It was nice to get, you know, a few days.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 10: Off, hang out with the family or hang out with fiance,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 10: dogs and everything, watch football.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 12: But ready to get back at it, Ready.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 10: To get you know, get ready for Sunday for the Chiefs.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 11: Liked on what did you like about your performance and
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 11: what do you think you could work on coming?
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I think we started out fast.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 10: We always talked about, you know, starting fast as far
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 10: as an offense, getting head early. We're able to do
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 10: that the first half and the second half. There are
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 10: some things that you know I missed as far as
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 10: reath and throws, and you know, you look at the interception,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 10: that's something that you know, I can prevent very easily
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 10: just checking it down to Zeke instead of forcing it.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 10: So you know, there's always goods and bads, and there's
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 10: things that I can look back on and hopefully fix
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 10: this week and then going into the Chiefs game. Good.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, you know, he's a great teammate.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 10: You know, of course I was upset that he's not
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 10: gonna be here with us anymore, but I was also
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 10: excited that he was getting an opportunity somewhere else. I
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 10: believe he signed to the fifty three, So I mean
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 10: that's a great opportunity for him.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 12: And you know, I texted him.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 10: I wished him all the best and told him to
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 10: stay in contact.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 12: And you know, he's a great guy. Really good play
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 12: hud games us.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 7: What are his expressing confidence to the college offensiport here
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 7: that they did production and did a starter here?
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: Happy to con what game he got confidence? Topic Gate three?
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 12: You do take that?
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, you know, during that time that was
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 10: hard you know, but at that moment getting cut, you know,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 10: you don't know what, you know, what's gonna happen in
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 10: the next twenty four hours. So it was mainly him
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 10: just giving me confidence and just talking to him back
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 10: and forth in the private, you know conversation, you know,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 10: just him telling me to get ready to go and
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 10: you know, anything could happen, and uh, you know, I
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 10: just try to take it day by day and that
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 10: from that point on, just you know, trying to get
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 10: better every day. I know that's a cliche to say,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 10: but just trying to get better. Y.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: How do you feel you've grown since the summer.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 10: You know, I think there's some things that I've grown
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 10: as far as you know, the offensive terminology and the
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 10: way we run the offense operation. I think there's things
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 10: that I could still learn from as far as that
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 10: getting to the ball, making che the right checks, seeing
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 10: the right you know, coverages, things like that. But you know,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 10: there's some things that you know, I felt like I've
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 10: improved on. But you know, I've talked to b every
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 10: day on certain things that I need to still get
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 10: better at.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 12: So it's always a learning process every day.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, speaking of coach Kitley, you and Patrick Mahomes have.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Him in common, right, Yes?
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: How often?
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 11: Uh D?
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: Did Patrick Mahomes come up in coaching points for you
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: when you were with them?
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 12: Yeah? He talked about Pat a lot.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 10: I mean Pat's I mean Pat, I mean he's one
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 10: of the you know, he's probably one of the top
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 10: quarterbacks in the league. Of course, and you know, A
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 10: Kitley was able to coach him whenever he was at
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 10: Texas Tech. So there was always certain things that you know,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 10: I would mess up and be like, hey, Pat tried this,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 10: let's try that. And so it was awesome to have
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 10: a you know, for him to coach a guy like
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 10: that and to be able to kind of pick his
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 10: brain on what Pat used to do and how Pat
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 10: learned and what Pat used to like.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 12: So it was pretty sweet.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: Have you picked my Home's brain at all? Have you
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: contacted him at all?
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 9: No?
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 10: I actually have haven't been able to you know, actually
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 10: go back and forth talk football. I think we've met,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 10: you know, through social media, but nothing crazy in person.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 12: Yet.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: What's your overall the impression put Homes.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: As a quarterback.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 12: I mean he does a lot of great things, you know, plays.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 12: I mean the main thing is the play's never over
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 12: with him.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 10: You know, he could sit in the pocket make throws
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 10: and then if he's able to get out and start
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 10: getting scramble mode, he can improve, you know, with the
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 10: best of 'em. So that's to be a you know,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 10: a great task for the defense.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 12: I know they're up for it.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 10: But you know, he's probably one of the greatest, you know,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 10: one of the best quarterbacks in our league right now,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 10: and it's you know, it's pretty amazing to watch what
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 10: he does, you know, every game.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 12: What was the extent meant I think he was.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 10: I think it was after our bowl game and he
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 10: just congrats or something like that. I don't think it
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 10: was anything crazy, right, I think we just followed each other.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 10: I don't even think we texted, to be honest with you,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 10: I think we just followed. And I was like, hey,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 10: Batomall's following me.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: Where where would you say that your self belief and
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: confidence comes from?
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 10: You know, I guess that just comes from, you know,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 10: just growing up and you know, going to only w
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 10: you know, I have one offer and just always having
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 10: a chip on my shoulder and kind of proof to everybody
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 10: that you know, I'm able to do, be able to
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 10: play quarterback in this league. You know, I think as
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 10: far as going into every game, I think it's just
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 10: far the preparation, the things you do throughout the week
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 10: that can lead to that confidence going.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 12: Into the game.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 10: And you know, the coaches, teammates, they helped out a
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 10: lot as well.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: They would us some baptist robe your your first years
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: bold and right rebounded as a sophomore and yeah.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: Then when you look at the second half film against
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: the Steelers, you know, what, what did you see that
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: maybe they did or you did that there wasn't quite
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: as productive as what you guys are able to do in.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 12: The first half. Yeah, I think, you know, it kind
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 12: of falls on me.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 10: I was missing a few throws, I wasn't sitting in
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 10: the pocket as much as I was, you know on
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 10: the first half.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 12: I was kind of get antsy uh, you know, less
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 12: things that i'm'a fixed throughout this week.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 10: Pocket you know, pocket drills before and after practice and
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 10: just tryna clean some of those things up. And I
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 10: mean it's nothing that you know, they're a great defense,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 10: but it's things that for us that we can fix
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 10: moving into this week.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 11: You know, your numbers against the blitz Are.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 7: In the last couple of weeks, Bill O'Bryan mentioned you
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 7: let's a lost.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 11: Obviously only do what kind of fees are their parents?
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 10: Right, Let's happy events in part Yeah, I mean, just
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 10: watching a lot of film, understanding you know, what they
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 10: like to do. They do a lot of things, So
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 10: I think a lot of it just comes down to
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 10: the communication between me and DA and the offensive line.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 12: Tryna get on the same page. As long as we're
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 12: on the same page, you know, everything will hopefully go well.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 10: But you just tryna s you know, believe in the
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 10: offensive line that they're gonna pick up the pressures whatever
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 10: they bring, and just being able to stand back there
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 10: confidently and just you know, take care of the football
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 10: and throw the you know, open guys and let them
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 10: make plays.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: Getting Some of your teammates talked about the command you
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: had in the huddle.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: You know, Ezekils won immediately after the game on Thursday,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: when you step into the huddle, what do you want
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: my teammates see in want the sense you should come
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: out off the field. Yeah.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 10: The biggest thing is, you know, the confidence in the
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 10: play in itself, you know, walking in there and you know,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 10: speaking confidently, you know, speaking fluently of the play, making
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 10: sure everybody's on the same page. And if everybody else
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 10: sees that you're confident in the play, they're gonna be
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 10: confident to play. And if every all eleven guys are
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 10: confident in that play, then you know it's a high
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 10: percentage that that play is gonna work. So I think
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 10: that's the biggest thing for me, just right off the bat,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 10: walking in there, understanding what the alerts are, making sure
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 10: everybody's on the same page, and you know, get into
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 10: the line, and then restarting the communication as far as
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 10: you know, Mike points and you know what plays we
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 10: wanna get to.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: You're not affected.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 12: Have you listened to any since that in preparation for
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 12: the game? Okay, so.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 10: You listen to the whole quote. I mean I said,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 10: I'm not not a fan. So I used to be
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 10: a fan cause I'm a country guy. I listen to
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 10: country music. She used to be country, so there was
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 10: times where, of course Taylor Swift country song came on,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 10: I listened to it. Now she's moved over to pop.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 10: I'm not a pop guy, so you know I'm a fan.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 10: I just don't listen to that type of music. So
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 10: I just cleared that up in there.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 12: Those are your criticism.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 10: You'd be nervous, No, I'm nervous. It's be pretty exciting
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 10: to of course ever here. I know she loves, you know,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 10: being here at the Latin, So I mean, I'm sure
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 10: that's exciting for her to come back here.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 17: And you got in this moment when Joe Montana during
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 17: a Super Bowl drive look went into the crowd said
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 17: that's John Candy.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 12: Yeah, wasn't that before? Is like a driver? Yeah?
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So will you be in that situation this Halo
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift as well.
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  Speaker 12: I mean, if the moment comes, I might you never know,
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  Speaker 12: did you get any.
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  Speaker 7: Kind of negative f from what you said on the
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  Speaker 7: radio about Taylor that might have been misconstrued not to
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  Speaker 7: my knowledge, Uh, but you want to c yeah, you got.
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  Speaker 10: You gotta clear it up because you never know social media.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 10: So I'm just making sure everybody understands.
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  Speaker 12: I'm I am a fan. Now, you're good. I'm glad
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 12: you asked I could clear it all up.
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  Speaker 10: Are good?
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: You clear it up?
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: We're good.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't know that sons sorry, yes exactly, George straight,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 10: yes exactly.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 11: And you're a little bit earlier reference to how much
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 11: has he helped you in terms of your overall growth
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 11: and development, particularly this year, He's helped a lot.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 10: Of course, he's been in the league for I think
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 10: what nine or ten years now, so he many seeing
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 10: everything that you could possibly see, as far as fronts,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 10: as far as pressures. So there's always things that I
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 10: go up and ask him, like, hey, where are you
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 10: looking for? If it's overfront, under front, diamond front, you know,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 10: what things are you kind of looking at? And just
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 10: always picking his brain, always learning kind of the whole
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 10: aspect of what the defense is trying to do against us.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 12: So it's awesome to pick his brain. And I know
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 12: he's learned from other.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 10: Guys as far as you know, Dante, Scarnekia and Tom
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 10: and all those guys. So there's things that he's learned
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 10: that I've never, you know, been taught. So just always
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 10: picking his brain and just kind of seeing how he
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 10: sees things and just trying to see the whole aspect
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 10: of what, you know, the defense is trying to do
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 10: against our offense.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 11: I thought it was interesting to buy use the phrase
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 11: what I'm talking about Matthew Slater that he never wants
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 11: to let him down. I was wondering if there's any
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 11: sort of maybe that same healing there with you when
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 11: it comes to working with a guy like Tea.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 12: Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean he's been here for
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 12: a while, he's won a lot.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 10: So for me as a young guy, you know, I
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 10: want to do everything I can to you know, help
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 10: the team win as a whole, and you know, not
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 10: let everybody down. I mean that's my goal, is to
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 10: do my job and go in there and try to
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  Speaker 10: help us win.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 5: Games and now great moments in.
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  Speaker 7: History.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: No one was worse than big Head.
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  Speaker 4: He was. He was b had also didn't wait till
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: the break right as soon as the food arrived, he
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  Speaker 4: would just shut his microphone off, move it away, and
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: start eating. But seriously, yeah, he'd be done before the
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: break started.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 18: He'd actually be a good sentence in an argument with
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 18: Fred and and if the producer would come in with
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 18: the food, he would stop what he was doing here. Yeah,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 18: he would be arguing, you know, passionately about something and
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 18: it would just like drop everything and tread be like
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 18: you can't.
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  Speaker 1: Even have like the producer go down because you know
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: they'd have the media meal. So you know, just make
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  Speaker 1: us a plate. So he'd come back with like maybe
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: six or seven sandwiches, and the moment he put it
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: down to the table, they had like, just just jump
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  Speaker 1: on metabolism.
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  Speaker 19: Guy, huh.
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  Speaker 7: They just always eating, always eating.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: But he has always eating, but he always hes. Always
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  Speaker 4: work out. Yeah sure yeah.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: If he ever slows down in his workout, he's gonna balloon.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: The rest of his body will catch up to his head.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: That's another great moment.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, we ready to go back.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: I was. I didn't want to say anything.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: I was waiting for the rejoin, but he gave it.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: He gave it one of these Okay, I don't want
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: to jump in, but I'm just hear the piano music
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  Speaker 1: and I thought we were going to go into uh,
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  Speaker 1: near you. Let's see who was Matt framing him. I
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: don't want to be the bad guy, but a message
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: for Nick Belichick might have destroyed the Steeler season, but
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: he also destroyed the Patriots. It's time for a change,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: and it's time people like Nick to come to terms
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: with it. Matt and framing him. But listen, I get what.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: We all a lot to Belichick.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 10: We do.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: We owe a lot to build Belichick, and you know,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: I hope people are respectful. It's hard.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 7: It never is gonna.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 8: I mean, did anyone ever think, I mean, it'd be
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 8: magical if it ended perfectly or on good terms with Brady.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 7: I mean, you know, it kind of will, but I
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 7: don't know. I just always kind of expect it to be.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: Like Alex and Raleigh, North Carolina hasn't received his poster,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: Matt yep, so get on it. Get on it. Yeah,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: Samantha wants to know if I wear my Apple Watch
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: upside down. I'm a lefty, so I wear it on
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: the other wrist and that turns the crown upside out.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 5: Video.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: I know, but that would be weird.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: Like you just that's how you like to look at it.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: You're like, I just gotta check the time real quick.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: Another Alex, this is in Mount Holly. To Paul point,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: I can live with the fact that Tom left and
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: won a title elsewhere, it cemented his legacy as the
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: greatest ever. With that said, if Bill were to leave,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: I also wouldn't be upset if he won a Super
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: Bowl with a team like the Chargers of Dallas. Once again,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: it would shut the media up, particularly one Boston radio
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: host that thinks he lost his fastball, and also cubmit
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: his legacy as the greatest coach ever. I know for
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: the Crafts and Patriots fans, that would be hard to stomach,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: knowing we let two goats walk when they still had
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: one left in the tank. But we all have to
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: accept the reality we live in right now, which is
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: what we won't ever replicate the last twenty five years,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: and we have to move on and build a future
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: and not live in the past. I also agree with
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: Paul f the analytics and kick the pat.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean, just to be clear, I'm
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: not a one hundred percent on that. I like to
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: let the feel of the game sort of dictate. I'm
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: a big fan of going for two for the win
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: at the end of regulation. I know a lot of
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: people will tell you should ever do that, Just play
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: for overtime and you know, extend the game, but I
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: think there were times there's a time and a place
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: to do it.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 7: There's been a handful of football games where that's happened.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 8: I saw the Holy Cross football game coaching against Jim
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 8: Harbor when he's at the University of San Diego. But
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 8: same thing were in overtime and it was one of
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 8: those situations college overtime where let's.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 7: Just go for two.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 8: We're gonna win or lose it right here. I mean,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 8: you remember those games. It always stands out. It's exciting,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 8: and yeah, I think you always appreciate the coach like, yeah, like,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 8: let's just figure it out right now.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 7: I love it.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: Wills and Cranston, what's up?
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: Will?
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: Lines are down in Rhode Island. Uh, Eldreds is in
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: North Carolina? What's up?
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: Aldrede?
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 19: The world's greatest podcast?
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 7: That's right.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 19: It might be those, but it's the greatest too though.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 10: That's right.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 19: I want everybody else had a band aid, y'all, And
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 19: I think did should give him much respect that they
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 19: did Brady, And I'm still gonna say that because I'm
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 19: a Brady got to But if they gave him what
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 19: he wanted, that one super Bowl would have been with us,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 19: Like I said, when they let him go, but they
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 19: said Bill thought he was too old back then.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 9: That's it.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 19: Anybody think that Bill's getting too old? Nobody's saying that.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 19: I still think it's the same way now, getting too old.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 19: And that's all I have to say.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 5: I have a Bill too old.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 8: Uh kind of interesting, like what what might happen depending
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 8: on how this goes with? Uh, you know the Tom
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 8: Brady sing in June, you know, I mean it's it's
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 8: hard to imagine the Tom Brady.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 7: Event without Bill Belichick. And if this were to end,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 7: you know, sourly when he goes to it, you know,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 7: like it doesn't feel right to do that night.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: I think, I think you'd be here, but if but
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: I think he would be here.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 7: I do too, just history of the game and his
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 7: place in it.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: But and he's generally been pretty good in those situations.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: You know, on that stage he shows you a little
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: bit more of his personality now that I don't know
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: if that will change because it won't be quite the
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 4: intimate gathering that the normal Hall of Fame ceremonies are.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be big, Yeah, Marty and Reno. I tell
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: Paul that the Patriots scored a touchdown Brady to James
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: White to make a twenty eight nine and then missed
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: the pat.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was figuring that out in my mind. How
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: they got to sixteen? Yeah, thank you for that. But
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: after that they kicked a field goal? Correct, you don't know,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: I don't yeah, Paul job eight to seven, two year job. Seeah, yeah,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: so they must have gone to twenty eight to twelve, right,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: which is sixteen? Yeah, that field goal. They probably took
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: some there. There's the guy I know constantly. I don't
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: know why you had to mock me the human box score.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: Stream twenty eight to twelve and that's sixteen.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 7: I was eighteen yards?
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: Does that not think? Did I do bad math there?
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: Because that's not my strong suit.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 8: Well, that's what you do when you do these things
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 8: and you're feeling it out and you're like, I think
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 8: that was like sixteen to eight there, and I'm like, sure, yep, yep, NOI.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: Yes, you just mock me. You'll like him.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: You learned it from watching him Jeff in Connecticut. Obviously
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: this isn't likely, but at the end up winning out
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: the season and then with a record of seven and ten,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: does that complicate the Craft's decision to fire Belichick. I
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: don't think it complicates their decision, but it certainly gives
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: fuel to the people like how could you ever get
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: rid of them?
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 8: You know, well, thet's still I mean, you can always
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 8: tack to like, well why did it take so long
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 8: to go to Zappi? And you know, but I mean
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 8: I think the hard part is if Zappi really starts
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 8: to play well and he starts to improve, and you're like, whoa,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 8: he's actually showing us something we didn't know he had,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 8: you know, I mean, they're like I said, there's flip
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 8: sides to the coin though, and but just offensively it's
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 8: been so bad. If they start to play well, and
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 8: you know, it's like, well maybe Bill could develop a quarterback.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 8: You know, those kind of things might come out. I
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 8: think it's a long shot though, for them to really
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 8: exact that, I.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: Would have to see how the game's unfold. Yeah, before
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 4: I even thought about.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 7: But you know what, I'm what I'm what I'm saying,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 7: it could be and like not a big chance.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: But Tyler in Providence this offseason, if you could hire
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: on a new coach and recruit a player from any
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: TV TV, any sports TV show or movie. Who would
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: you bring on? My pick would be Ted Lasso, ad
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: coach in bad Castle from Blue Mountain State as a
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: new leader of the defense. We would just need to
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: keep him away from Paul's shiny shirt and coach Boom.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 7: Probably go rech dunlop you can play anybody slop shot, Yeah, okay, Paul.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: Uh coach Nickerson from all the right moves. I wouldn't
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 4: pick six two stack monster.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 7: What about your your guy from off Friday Night Lights.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he'd be the ultimate.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 7: Like Ted, and that probably surprises people. It's just like
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 7: it's annoying.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know, a little sacchering. I thought it was
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: well done. Yeah, I think I think that's what it was.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: It's cute.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 4: Is that over now?
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 7: But yeah, oh yeah yeah.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: I mean he went back to the States and started
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: coaching youth soccer I never saw.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 7: I think I'm getting grumpy because I didn't like to vulgar.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 7: I didn't really like the bear. I mean, like I
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 7: was okay with it, but people who either you.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 9: Have to work in the trenches of a kitchen or
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 9: as a waitress.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 7: That's the parts I love with it.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 8: But then like the first like you know, seven episodes
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 8: or eight episodes, like why is everyone just yelling at
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 8: each other?
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: Like this is amazing?
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: No, I love those parts.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 8: I mean, we knew, we knew, we knew a lot
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 8: of a couple of chefs that are totally like that,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 8: And those are my favorite parts with him and the
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 8: girl and you know them them trying to put the
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 8: restaurant together.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 7: But it's like the brother and the mother and everybody
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 7: yelling at each other constantly. It was just chaotic for me.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: Jack says, the balls do have sensors, However, it can't
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: be used for the spot because you can't tell if
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: the sensor is in the center of the ball or
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: either tip.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 7: You gotta put in the tip, the tip of the.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: Ball across the line, but the sensor maybe not just in.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 7: The tip, No, youat in the middle.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: So I don't know just the tip.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: I know if that's true. But he's claiming that the
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: balls do have sensors in the.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: I think they do, but I don't think that's a
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 4: way that you can spot the ball. Like just where
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: the ball is isn't necessarily where the spot should be.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 8: It's my point, right, there's a lot of variables, but
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 8: just watching the dots, like the way that the little
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 8: ball dot works, It's like it feels like it's in
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 8: a ball, like it just has that kind of trajectory, you.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: Know, Cameron and Dallas. Hey, Fred forgot to mention this earlier,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: but over the weekend Byron Munich played in Frankfort and
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: got absolutely destroyed five to one. I only bring this
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: up because you wore the Bayern shirt to the show
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: and Frankfort always loved the show. Keeper the great work. Yeah,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: that was a funny moment, but they just beat man
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: you yesterday.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so all right, you did your research. You were
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 7: trying to, you know, win over the crowd there with
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 7: your shirt.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: No I was not, No, no, I was trying to
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: cause controversy. Really. Oh yeah. People, and if you're not
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: like you hate them. It's like the Patriot Patriot like
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: if you're not a Patriot fan, you you know, if
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: you're you're either a Patriot fan or you hate them,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter, you know. So I wanted to cause a
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: little ball Yeah.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 7: My wife liked how you looked in it. Fred, She
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 7: thought you looked jacked.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: Which I really don't understand what she was looking at.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 7: I gotta see if I can find the exact clote
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 7: from her. It was I had to text. I started
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 7: dying laughing in the car, and I'm like, I have
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 7: to text Paul and fed right now.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: Chatting Atlanta. I hate to bring up old big head arguments,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: but I used to be with you, Fred where watching
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: blowout games like the Jets that you knew the Patriots
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: are gonna win were way better than watching close games. However,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: I do have to admit that watching games these days
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: not knowing the outcome have been a bit more enjoyable,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: even though I'm expecting a Patriots loss.
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  Speaker 4: What say you?
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 9: No?
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: I when and again, this applies only to the Patriots,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: but I enjoy Patriots blowing out other teams. Now, that's
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: back when we were good. Now, I just hope that
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: we're competitive, you know, like this is.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: This is different because you're three and ten, right Like,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: I don't think anybody would say, well, I'd rather have
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: this because every game I don't know what's gonna happen. No,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, you know you're good. I used to enjoy
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: I remember and enjoyed the games that were hard that
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 4: they found a way to win. At the end, Andandy
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: and I would argue with Fred. Fred just wanted to
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 4: win every game fifty two.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: To for the Patriots. I want to blow out all.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: My like I learned more in like the Baltimore playoff
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: game where they win thirty five thirty one. Then I
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 4: do say the Tim Tebow Broncos game, like give me
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 4: the give me the Baltimore game. Every time Fred was like, no, no, no, no,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 4: I want the to And it's just a difference of opinion.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying that Fred's wrong. I think there's probably
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: a lot of fans like Fred that, oh no, they
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: blew out Tebow. That was great. Like to me, I'll
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: watch the Baltimore game. That might be a game I'd
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: watched twice.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 7: Mike right three times my team.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: I want him to blow them out all the other games.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: Them the other night, the Celtics game the other night,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 4: that that Cleveland game where they're just no, I'll take
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: that game any day. Like I don't care if I
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 4: beat the Wizards by fifty eight points, that doesn't tell
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: me anything. They kind of didn't have their fastball at
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 4: times the other night, and Cleveland was shooting lights out.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: It was hard and found a way to win the
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: last six minutes and won a tough, hard fought game.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: I'm with you.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 9: Until I have good wins with my blood pressure down
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 9: the road one day, like I'm with you.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't want it to be close because
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: I blew a twenty four point third quarter lead, which
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 4: is what the Celtics also tend to have in their
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 4: in their bag, as Evan likes to say. But that
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: game was a good game, you know, kind of start
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: to finish. It was pretty close, and the Celtics out
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: played him down the stretch. I like those over the
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: thirty five point blowouts any day.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: Ryan from Athol won a contest back in November twenty
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: second says he didn't get his shirt. He wasn't sure
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: just to get or a poster.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa, Yeah, he doesn't even know what he wont
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: I'm going to take Matt's side. I've got the he
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: doesn't know if it was post.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: Got the email chain here and what a tattletale he
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: got the answer with Steven Gregory and then congrats Ryan
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: Saar's risk.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 4: Do we have any trip size? Why was there no
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: trigger questions? Today?
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 7: They played Zappie Zappi's interview. They didn't do a show
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 7: within the show.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: Has that broken down?
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: The show within the show doesn't asked me to do it.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: In quite a bit.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 4: You can't do things that you can't sustain, and I
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 4: keep telling them unavailable anytime you want.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 6: It was a producer call today to play Zappi, not
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 6: Matisa's fault.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna blame him anyway. How does that sound? Because
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 4: you're never wrong and.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 5: You could kill me.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: Let's see Barton Poland. One argument that people make when
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: arguing for Purdy is that the other guys didn't look
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: like him in that offense. While that's true, none of
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: them had CMC on the team. McCaffrey, well, Jimmy g
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: had him for five four games. His stats in those
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: five games twelve hundred and eighty four yards, nine touchdowns,
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: one interception, seventy one percent completion percentage, which for a
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: seventeen game season adds to a pace of huge It's
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: important in this conversation to remind that Purdy is the
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: only nine ers core back to have CMC for the
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: whole of his run.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 8: Okay, I think he's a good player. I don't think
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 8: he's an MVP player. That's I mean, you know, it's
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 8: like I just want to.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 7: I just want to he's a good player.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 4: I just want to take the really the really controversial
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: take of the guy playing quarterback that's throwing for three
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: hundred yards every week is actually has something to do
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 4: with the success. If you want to say that CMC
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: has more, I would agree. If you want to say
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 4: that Kittle has more, I would agree. Are you, deebo?
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 4: I think they're all higher on the list of MVP
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 4: candidates than the quarterback. Is that said, when he doesn't play,
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: it doesn't look like that. Yeah, it doesn't, Okay. I
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 4: don't care if McCaffrey's in or not. Like Moster was there,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 4: Mostard has as many touchdowns as anybody right now for Miami.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: He played with Garoppolo, right, yep, George and Virginia.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 12: Two things.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: One is that Julian Edelman's podcast Games with Names recently
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: uploaded in new episode with Gronk, and they discussed the
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: twenty fourteen season in the Colts game that year. Must
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: listen if you're a Pats fan, and if you hate
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: the Colts it's even more of a must listen too.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: I see Mike dance and sing to Evan's song, and
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: I have a theory the rise in Sneaky Negative Deuce
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: is directly attributed to Evan's thievery of his beloved jingle
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: I can see Deuce now it's raining. Deuce has a
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: glass of whiskey looking out the window, singing a slowed
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: down version of his original jingle, with a solitary tear
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: running down his face.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 8: I mean, there's nowhere I'd rather be right now than
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 8: outside in the cold, taking track of who is there.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 8: So I am happily willing to give Evan the song.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 8: You know, maybe if Jill's listening, we can come up
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 8: with a new song for me.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 7: I did enjoy.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 8: I never had a song before, and it was only
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 8: one season that I had a song, So maybe maybe
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 8: we can figure something out.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: The emails of people who didn't get their prices for
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: I won't go I won't go through all of them,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: but I don't know what's going.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 6: This person who has a legit Barton poll and his
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 6: shirt came back to me ripped up.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: That's the only person right well. Gavin Brown just rode
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: in and Jacob wrote.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 8: In, So people are just piling on now, they're making
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 8: it up. They're trying to make Matt look bad.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: But let's see one more email. Then we'll get to picks.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: Uh Nakodi writes in what do you think is more
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: likely Bill going to the super Bowl in three years
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: staying with the team or going to another team who
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: has a hot seat coach and going to the super
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: Bowl in one year? What's more likely?
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 8: I mean, I hate to say, it depends on the team.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 8: But if he went to Buffalo, I could I could
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 8: see him going next year if he stuck around and
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 8: hit a draft out this draft out of the park
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 8: and got a quarterback, and then I might see this
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 8: if he went to Carolina, like, I don't see him going,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 8: you know, to.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: The to the I think that one one year with
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: another team is more the right team. I think that'll
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: be likely. All right, Evan.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 7: Has returned.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: Hasturn.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: Evan is showing up the Aaron hath rectified. You guys
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: have a lot of cloud, we have a lot of
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: sway may have power.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 5: This is power.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: Yesterday because the PR Department changed the format and lo
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: and behold, it's back to the way they like.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 5: This is the way we like it because, like I said, yesterday,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 5: we have this little this is a numerical order.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: So who fell on the sword pr.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 5: That's a good question. Jess was the one that got
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 5: confronted about it, Poor Jess. And then that kind of
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 5: trickled up to Aaron, who I think is you know,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 5: sort of in charge of Jess.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: It's a little lot of sorts these days these days,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: all right, So what what's going on out there?
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 5: So a couple of updates from Patriots practice on Thursday. Uh,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 5: still no remondro Stevens, which isn't much of a surprise.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 5: No Trent Brown today. Trent Brown was missing I ankle
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 5: and hand injuries. Now on the injury, well it could
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 5: be a veteran's mate. And then number three in this one,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 5: I know, really kills Bill Belichick. Brendan's schooler missing from
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 5: Patriots practice on Thursday, and we were talking a little
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 5: bit about Brendon's school er, little grousing Brendan's schooler. Not
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 5: really a great year for Brandon's schooler. He has four
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 5: penalties in the kicking game this year. And somebody else,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 5: Chris Mason mentioned that he's missed the second most tackles
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 5: in the league on special teams this year.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: Plus, I didn't care for his no shirt display in Pittsburgh.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 4: Oh, I knew that I would have bet anything that
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 4: that would have bothered.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: But do you know why? Do you know why I
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: didn't care for it?
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 4: Because you are a psychotic No, Because.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: It wasn't cold enough that one. It's freezing and then
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: you show up, but it wasn't cold enough to do
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: to pull there.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 4: You only make fun of other teams playing California.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: Boy that California.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: But maybe James Harrison comes out and it's zero degrees
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: without a shirt, I'm scared, you know, when.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 4: Brendan's schooler comes out in front of them.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: When Brendan's schooler comes out and it's forty two degrees,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you're an idiot.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 7: I clip that one.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 8: Nobody ever really does it when it's like ninety five
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 8: degrees in Superhuman right, Like you never go down to Jacksonville,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 8: Miami and see warm ups and nobody's got shirt.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 5: Tennessee, we were in Tennessee for the preseason game. It
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 5: was like one hundred and five degrees out and I
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 5: did see a lot of players shirtless and warm ups
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 5: in that one, and I was just like, I mean,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 5: I don't blame you like it was so it was
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 5: if I look like them, I never have a shirt on.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 7: I'm still a dream. Fred, it's a dream.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 5: The shirt people you look like you guys like us.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 5: That's literally not genetically possible.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: You pull the nose shirt and warm up when it's
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: absolutely freezing to show I don't care, you know, not
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: when it's forty two.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 7: Somebody did that on my freshman football team. You're like,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 7: you're going out with a shirt on.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 5: Can't But it just goes to show that how the
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 5: Patriots are in a bad place. When Brendan School are
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 5: not covering kicks, well, that's not a great.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 17: It's probably why they got the new guy. The Montgomery's
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 17: out and they got a FA to make sure. All right,
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 17: we gotta hurry. It's probably not anything.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 4: Full slate of games this week.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: We got a lot of pitch to do. What happened
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: last week.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 4: Baul, lot of carnage. Not good.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: Every every once in a while there's a week that
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: humbles everybody.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and this was one of the Paul seven and eight,
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 4: Alex and Fred six and nine, Mike and Evan five
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 4: and ten. That's overall, that's just winners that week, UH
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 4: with the spread Paul seven seven and one, Alex six
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 4: eight and one, Mike and Evan five nine and one,
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 4: and Fred.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 7: Oh, Fred, you're diverting from her four.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: To ten and one, so Alex maintainser lead. That's why
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: she was here two days this week one thirty one
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 4: and seventy seven UH, followed by Paul at one, twenty
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 4: seven and eighty one, still chasing four games. Evan and
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 4: Fred won twenty three and eighty five and Mike won
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 4: twenty two and eighty six. Where the real UH experts
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 4: separate themselves. Paul with the spread one oh five, ninety
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 4: four and nine. Now the nine pushes knowin let's see
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 4: who's second. Alex one oh one ninety eight and Noine
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 4: Evan ninety seven one oh two and Noine, Fred ninety
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 4: five one oh four and Noine and Mike ninety one
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 4: one o eight and.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 5: Deez, what's going on?
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 4: Gooint? Are you okay?
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 7: I'm okay? How do you feel about this indifferent.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 4: Full slate including UH tonight in three games on Saturday?
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: Fred, which is crazy because I have things to do
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: on Saturday. I can't be watching two.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 7: I gotta go look at lights.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: I gotta get my last shopping done.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 4: You you watch the games in general when you can.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: Of course I do.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 7: Huh how do you think he gets this feel for
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 7: the league?
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 4: Four nine?
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: No, if you know, if the Patriots are having a
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: bad season, I'm having a bad season with sim Podoco,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: and especially when I pick against them and they win.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: Karma really bites me in the ass when that happens. Karma. Yeah,
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: eight fifteen Prime Video Tonight, the five and eight Chargers
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: are at the five and eight Raiders. What's this guy's stick?
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: Yes? Yeah, uh, our Trey Lances Vegas by three.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 7: You like the Bison of the jack Rabbits, Jack Rabbits
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 7: South Dakota South Street. I will take Las Vegas.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 8: I don't really know much about Easton stick other than
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 8: his name sounds like a hockey stick, and I'll go
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 8: with I'll go with Vegas.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: I will also take Vegas both ways at home.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 8: And doesn't Easton make bats so that's kind of yeah yeah, yeah,
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 8: metal aluminum.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 4: I think it works better with the hockey stick. Easton stick.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: Well, they sometimes they call bats stick.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 4: You're absolutely right, Twigger on tonight Lacrosse we are we
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 4: are twigs like that stick is a twig hurry.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the Raiders in this game, take them
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 5: both ways. I just think backup quarterback chargers quit on
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 5: their coach over.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the reason why I'm taking the Raiders. No,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 4: Keenan Allen, they're you know, starting to scurry. He'll take
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 4: Vegas like that.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: I will take the as well. Did you get that
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: part right now? I take the Raiders all right? Now,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: we go to Saturday one o'clock on the NFL Network.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: In fact, all these Saturday games are on the NFL Network. Uh,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: seven and six Vikings are at the seven and six Bengals.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 4: I think Evan and I talked about the Saturday slate
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 4: a little better than I think I gave it credit
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 4: for yesterday. I think you're right. Cincinnati by three three.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 8: You the Minnesotas make another quarterback chambon. Nick Mullins is in.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 8: Never quite fits his helmet. For me, it's just a
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 8: little bit a little bit too big of a head.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 4: Another guy who the Niners offense didn't look there, you.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 8: Go, Nick Mullins out. I will take Browning and Cincinnati
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 8: at home. I will lay the points.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: That's why I don't like it, though, I don't know.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 5: I'm going to take the Bengals at home too, and
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 5: I think they cover.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I thought that the Browning thing might be a
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 4: one week wonder that Monday night game, and they did
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 4: the same thing the next week against Indy. So I
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 4: will take the Bengals.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna save my want to pick for later on
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna have to pick the Bengals of this one.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: I hate doing that first time, I've done it all season,
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: but I'm so behind that I need to pick some moves.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 4: I need to pick right. Here's where he tells you
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 4: the reason behind.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 7: Well, it's not his head, it's that's art. That Art's
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 7: got him behind.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 4: That is part of it.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: Four point thirty on NFL Networks. Seven and six Steelers,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: whose season was ruined by Bill Belichick last week against
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: these seven and six Colts.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 4: Uh Indy by one and a half.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it sounds like Mike Tomlin getting.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: Some oil and.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 7: Turned on him a little bit.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: The whole Steeler thing is, I know.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 7: That's why I.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: Don't know.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 8: Indianapolis just seems like they're they're kind of playing hard,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 8: They're willing to throw it up there and just trying
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 8: to make play.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 7: So I'm gonna go Indian at home. I'll lay that
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 7: point for sure, point and a half.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 5: Retweet Indie Indy, Yep, I'm going with the the here
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 5: the Colts are. They're playing some good ball the Colts.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I'll take Pittsburgh even though I think they stink.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 4: I think both teams stink, and I give a lot
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 4: of credit to Shane Steichen for keeping it together with
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 4: a backup quarterback and staying reasonably relevant. But I think
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 4: this is one of those games that they quote supposed
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 4: to win and Pittsburgh they won't. Yeah, Pittsburgh people, everybody's
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 4: written them off. I think this is a game that
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 4: they find a way.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: I think Pittsburgh bounces back after this game. I think
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: they almost bounce back in that last game. But I
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: think they're pissed off things. Like I mentioned Ben Roethlisberger
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: saying this whole Steeler culture is gone.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 7: Oh god, Well yeah, from Ben Roethlisberger's point of view,
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 7: that's probably a good thing, right.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to take the Steelers in this game
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: eight point fifteen. The only way they could get Denver
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: out of Denver is put it on Saturday.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 4: There you go.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: So he's seven and six, Broncos are at the nine
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: and four Lions.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 4: The suddenly reeling Lions by four.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 7: That's an interesting one. But I'm gonna go with Detroit
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 7: at home. What website?
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 4: What was the four four?
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna take the points though for Denver. I think
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 7: it'll be close, but I think Detroit pulls it out.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's a get right game for Detroit,
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 9: but I think the Broncos cover too.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 5: I like the Lions both ways in this game, but
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 5: Jared Goff has not been playing good football for a
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 5: lot a while now, and I think that's really where
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 5: it's holding the Lions back. Is he turned the ball
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 5: over a lot. Has it given you any pause on
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 5: my boy Ben Johnson a little bit? Because but I
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 5: want to see how he gets him out of it. Like,
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 5: if he can get him out of it, then then that's.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 4: I agree that offense has looked very average for about
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 4: a month.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 5: He's been turned over the ball like crazy.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I will take Detroit both ways as well, but yeah,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 4: definitely they're not playing well.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: I'm going to fork this game. I'm gonna have the
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: Lions winning, but not covering.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 7: Fork.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: Who Oh, it's like you in a road, you come
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: to a fork in the road. Okay, say okay, I'm
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: gonna go with the wind for it.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 7: I'll sue you fork everybody.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: All right, Now, we're on to Sunday when football should
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: be played. One o'clock on Fox, the six and seven
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: Falcons are at the one and twelve Panthers.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 4: Atlanta by three.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 5: Who is watching this?
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 4: Three? Uh?
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 7: Unfortunately.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 8: I wish I could pick Carolina to try to make
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 8: things interesting for that first overall pick.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 7: I just don't think it happens. I'm going to take
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 7: Atlanta'll lay the points.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah, Falcons Falcons.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 5: I like the Falcons both ways. As what the Falcons
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 5: have been at least competitive in every single game. Just
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 5: looking back at their schedule, they haven't really lost a
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 5: game by by much at all all year long. So
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 5: I'm going to take the Falcons.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, me too. Just Bryce Young just not ready.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Falcons as well. One o'clock Fox,
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: five and eight Bears are at the eight and five
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: Browns Cleveland by three.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 8: Ooh, it feels like a nineteen forties game anytime these
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 8: two teams meet. I'm gonna take Cleveland a little.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 4: The Chicago Cardinals against the Cleveland.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 7: Would you take Cleveland? I lay the points please.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 4: Flacco again Flacco for the rest of the way. According
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 4: to Stefanski, Yeah, why not Cleveland.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the Bears in this game, upset. I
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 5: think the Bears have really been playing well, going back
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 5: to that first Lions game that they should have won
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 5: and they lost laid So they've really been playing well
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 5: for like three or four weeks now, and I like
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 5: the Bears.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree about the Bears, but I just I
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 4: do not bet against that Browns defense at home, and
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 4: I will take Cleveland again.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: That's exactly why I'm picking Cleveland as well. One o'clock
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: on CBS, these six and seven Buccaneers are at these
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: six and seven Packers.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 4: Green Bay by three and a half.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 8: Quick question, what do you think it's better for the
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 8: Patriots if the if the Bears are like first overall
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 8: and third or like first overall and sixth, You know, like,
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 8: is it is it better if that second pick is
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 8: lower to higher?
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 7: Does it matter? If the thought I had?
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 5: What do you think I think that they want to
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 5: come away from this draft with Marvin Harrison Jr. Whether
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 5: it's with a new quarterback or it's with Justin Fields,
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 5: he's the guy. So I would say that probably them
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 5: picking one in three. If you if you're thinking the
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 5: Patriots are going to take the quarterback, it's probably a
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 5: little bit better because they probably wouldn't want to trade
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 5: out in like risk losing. I don't know.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 7: Sorry for the side I will shoot. I'm gonna take
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 7: Tampa on the road at Green Base been hard to
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 7: get a beat on. They're good, they're not. I'm gonna
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 7: take Tampa with the upset, though, I will please receive
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 7: the points. That is that A receive the points receive.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 3: I am going to take the Packers both ways, I guess.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 3: I guess a couple of these.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: I guess.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 7: Store Dark at it your smack.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 4: I'm not talking.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 7: Kneel before the queen.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 5: Anyways. I like the Packers in this game, even though
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 5: they lost last week. I thought Jordan Love played well
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 5: in that game against the Giants, and I think that
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 5: they're they're still feisty. So I like the Packers.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 4: So I was I'm going to take Green Bay too,
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 4: but I was laughing. There was a lot of wind
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 4: I guess it met life last week and it was
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 4: affecting and and Aikman was talking about it a little bit,
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 4: and I'm thinking to myself, oh yeah, that that shouldn't
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 4: be a problem at all for Jordan Love, who plays
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 4: his home games at Lambeaus. No, no, no, uh no
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 4: concerns about the elements there. But I agree with Evan.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 4: I just think that Green Bay is better. And I
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 4: think Jordan Love has played reasonably well. And I thought,
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 4: you know, and on a night where they didn't have
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 4: any offense, really no consistency, he put together a drive
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 4: when he needed to have made a couple of big
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 4: throws in the in the end zone. So I'll take
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 4: the pack.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: I will take the pack as well. One o'clock CBS,
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: the five innutche five and eight Jets are at the
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: nine and four Dolphins.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 4: Miami by eight and a half.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 7: Oh, that's falling hard. That's a good number.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 5: Treating the half really all their injuries, that's a big number.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 4: That's why it's down there. I think it was double digits.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 7: I can't do it with the Jets. I'm gonna take
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 7: Miami to win.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 8: But I think if I don't know what Tyreek's situation
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 8: is immediately, but if he's limited, they've been different.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 7: I will take the points for the Jets, but I
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 7: will take Miami to win.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna split it the same way how Mike just did.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm surprised even still, it's a big number. I mean,
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 5: the Dolphins are three fists of their offensive line is out,
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 5: Tyreek kill is out or all five of them out
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 5: or on the injury report or something.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 4: They're either on IR or on the injury Yeah.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and uh, you know obviously they they lose Phillips
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago, like their their injuries are
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 5: a legit problem. So I'm gonna take the Dolphins to win.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 5: But I think the Jets keep this game close.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, me too. Too many injuries, it's Phillips, Holland Baker,
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 4: the whole line, Tyreek. I think they'll win the game
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 4: because I don't think the Jets are good enough to
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 4: duplicate that offense that they did last week. But I'll
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 4: take the points.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: This is one where the Sharps either know something too
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: or they just flat out got it wrong. But I'm
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: going with the Jets outright. The Jets pull off the
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: upset Dolphins are reeling. I think I think the Jets
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: do it.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 5: If the Dolphins like go belly up again, and this
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 5: is like Mike McDaniel like starts hot every single year
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 5: and then they flame out every single like that had.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 4: Been, I'd say this would be way worse than last
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 4: year because last year was because two got hurt. This year,
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 4: if it plays, they should not be losing the number
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 4: one seed. They should not lose to Tennessee at home,
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 4: and they should not lose to the Jets at home
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 4: with a play.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: I just think about that Sunday. So you got me
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: for the Jets both, I do right Sunday.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 4: At one, I thought you were picking straight this week,
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 4: but the five.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: And eight Giants are at the six and seventy.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 4: He just got it at uh. This spread I thought
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 4: was strange. New Orleans by five and a half.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 5: Vegas loves New Orleans really, Yeah, what do you feel?
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 10: What that is?
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 5: I feel I don't know, they just I feel like
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 5: they're always.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 4: So you guys, that's a kind of an odd spread,
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 4: layer of played. I think the Giants have won three
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 4: in a row.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's weird. I'm gonna take New Orleans though
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 7: at home, but I will take the points for the
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 7: Giants to keep it close.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think the Vito's win streak comes to an end,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 9: but I don't know.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 3: They're kind of pesky. I think they cover.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 5: My favorite clip of the week is a New York
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 5: reporter asking Brian Dable if Tommy DeVito's first four games
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 5: or anything like Tom Brady's first four games, and Brian
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 5: Dable just interrupting him mid question, being like, please stop, please,
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 5: please stop. I agree. I think that Tommy DeVito comes
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 5: back down to earth in the Saints win this game,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 5: but I think the Giants cover the spreading.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to take the Giants both ways, and
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 4: it's because I think the Giants defense has played much
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 4: better over the last month or so. Like Tommy, No,
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 4: I don't, I don't. I kind of and his agent,
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 4: I really, I really don't.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: Rarely does agent have an agent? Is his agent?
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I don't really like him, you know, Sean into
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 4: the agent. I think the Giants defense has played well
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 4: and the Saints offense has been miserable, So I think
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 4: it's a low scoring game that that fits right into
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 4: the way the Giants want to play. And they find
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 4: a way to win.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: This is where the Sharps know something. Saints both ways okay?
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: Uh Sunday at one, seven and six Texans are at
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: the five and eight.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 4: Titans Tennessee by three. So another spread that I thought
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 4: was very odd.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: Recncy biased for the Titans for you.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 4: And I believe, I think the Titans think.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 7: I think Stroud is Stroud.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 4: I did not know that he's not playing.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 5: He's in can catch and protocolog in the protocol. Pretty
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 5: good chance he doesn't play.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 4: But that explains the spread though.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go with my guy Vrabel
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 7: and uh yeah, we'll leave I's are you point?
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 4: Are you like mad that that they want they won
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 4: one to find finally the week that you didn't pick.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 7: Oh, I know that's how it works, Paul.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 4: He loves Mike. It's unbelievable.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 7: No, I love Derek. Yeah, and we'll leaves of your heroes.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 4: Will Levi, I's played really well the other night.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 20: I'm gonna take the Titans both ways, poor Will, like
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 20: you guys have messed up saying his last name his
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 20: ex girlfriend her poor Instagram called blown up by his
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 20: stats every week because they broke.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 7: Up recently, so they're just she had a golden ticket.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 3: They're trying to rub it in her face.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 4: Just people are so you.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: Should start a website NFL girlfriends dot com.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 7: Think of the NFL wags Wags. NFL Wags Wags.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 3: That's technically the term wag Central.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 5: Who are you picking?
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 4: I did pick Tennessee.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take Tennessee as well. Although I don't like
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 5: Will Levis, like calm down.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 4: But other than that, I didn't care for his comportment
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 4: during the game.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 5: He played well like I get it your meat head cool.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna take Houston because I think Tennessee stinks.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: I'm going to take Houston as well. Uh Sunday at one?
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 4: Why do you get mad?
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: Because I want it to be different than you. I
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: hate Uh Sunday at one on Fox eight and five.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 7: Oh, you gotta skip over it.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: We got to skip over that. Sorry to let the
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: cat out of the bag. There four or five. The
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: ten and three forty nine Ers are at the three
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: and ten Cardinalsniners by twelve and a half twelve?
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 5: Does anybody own anybody in this matchup? I'm assuming the Niners.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 4: I believe the Niners own that division.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I love that question. That's become a thing.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 4: That is the NFC West is a thing.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 5: They have owners.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm gonna get a little c here. I'm gonna
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 7: take San Francisco to win.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 8: That's a lot of points though, and maybe Kyler Murray
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 8: does some some cool stuff, so I gotta make some
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 8: moves here.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 7: Get out of the basement. I'll take the points for Arizona.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna take the Francisco both ways.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take San Francisco, but I'm also gonna take
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 5: the Cardinals to cover the points because Brock Party stinks.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: It's like a hate pick.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 4: Strew you.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: I will take the Niners both ways, as I Niners
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: both ways. Four oh five CBS four to nine. Commanders
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: are at the six and seven Rams.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 4: Lar by six and a half, the tough one.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 7: Uh dam, I'm gonna take the Lar at home. I
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 7: just I think Washington's fading. I'll lay the points.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 3: I'll take the law too.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 5: I'm also gonna take the Rams both ways. Matthew Stafford
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 5: playing some really good football lately. It looks like the
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 5: old Matthew Stafford. I think they're coming on a little bit.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: You mean he can't make the play.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 4: Almost it's almost like it's not a bad team win.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 4: It's not in quarterback is helping. Did you see how
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 4: that works? You see Cooper cup discussed ridiculous. I'll take
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 4: the Lar both ways as well.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Rams both ways.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: Next one potentially could be a great one for twenty
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: five on Fox. The ten and three Cowboys are at
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: the seven and six Bills.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 4: So the eleventh seed in the AFC is favored over
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 4: the number two seed in the NFC by too.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 7: That's a good way to put it. By two.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 4: Uh, that's one of those Felger fasts. N't really tell
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 4: any of the.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 7: I'm taking Dallas.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 3: I love dak I'm taking Dallas too. I can't believe that.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 9: Buffalo is favored, but I guess big one over Kansas
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 9: City will do it.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the Bills. I think the Cowboys are
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 5: a different team at home than they are in the road.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 5: I think this is an outdoor game. I know everybody
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 5: thinks I'm a Bills fan, so I'm just gonna I'm
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 5: just gonna lean into it. If I was in the
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 5: AFC playoff, Hunt I'd be worried that the Bills catch fire.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 4: If I were every other team in the AFC would
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 4: be rooting heavily for the Cowboys in this game.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 5: Because if the Bills make the playoffs and he gets hot,
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 5: and if they make out, if I have Buffalo two,
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 5: I'm taking If they do make the playoffs, that means
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 5: that he got hot, yep, and they're rolling into the playoffs.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 4: So he could probably afford to maybe lose one of
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 4: these last four. They play Dallas, they play Miami. If
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 4: they win three out of four and get to ten wins,
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 4: they might be in. But I agree with Evan like
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 4: I would not want to see them if I were
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 4: anybody else in the AFC, because he's got the ability
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 4: to just be the best player on the field any
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 4: given day, and he knows it. He can just do that.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 5: He can just mic drive it and then you're out.
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  Speaker 4: And I think Dallas had a huge emotional win last week,
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 4: and you know what I think of Dallas, And that's
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 4: kind of a situation.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: Normally I would be all over the Bills in this one.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: But if Dak Prescott is playing the way people say
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: he is and is truly an MVP, can I ended
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: it this year. He needs to prove it right here.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with the Cowboys to win this game.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: Eight twenty on envery sure. The ten and three Ravens
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: are at the eight and five Jaguars.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 4: Ravens by three.
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  Speaker 7: It's a good game for Sunday night.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 8: Hopefully we get home, we can watch the end of
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 8: the Dallas Buffalo game and then go right into Baltimore.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 7: Jacksonville was like.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 4: A plant, Michael.
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  Speaker 7: I think, first the time, I think Baltimore is the
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 7: best team in the AFC. I think they prove it here.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 7: I will take them.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 9: I will lay the points me too, Baltimore on the road.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 8: Plus they got moleik So who they might like promote them.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 8: Oh no, they don't even have to use on the roster.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 4: Would you think of Harbaugh's comments about, by the way,
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 4: not necessarily a quarterback?
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 7: No, same kind of thing.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 5: The Patriot said, Yeah, interesting, I like the Ravens big
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 5: in this game. I think Lamar Jackson's playing out of
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 5: his mind right now. Love Lamar Jackson.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 4: I'm taking Baltimore both ways. Also, if Trevor Lawrence were healthy,
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 4: I would think about I think the spread probably would
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 4: be different too, But I'll take Baltimore both ways.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Ravens as well. I think
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: Hardwall comes out and personally rolls right up on Trevor
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: Lawrence's ankle. Before the game Monday night, eight fifteen on ESPN, ABC,
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: ESPN two, ESPN Deportes, the ten and three Eagles are
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: at the six and seven Seahawks.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 4: Philly by four.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with the upset on this one, just
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 7: Seattle at home. I feel like it's it's kind of
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 7: a tough spot for Philly. They're they're trying to figure
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 7: it out a little bit. I'm just again trying to
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 7: make up some ground here. I'm gonna go for Seattle.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Philly both ways.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take Philly both ways. But I don't like
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 5: how Philly is playing. Yeah, if I was them, i'd
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 5: be concerned. But I think Seattle's not very good.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. I'm gonna take Philly to win the game,
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 4: but I will take the points because I agree with Evan.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 4: I don't think Phillies looked right.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: I am gonna take the Seahawks outright.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 5: You locked quarterback in this game. Maybe just letting you
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 5: all know.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 4: How was that right?
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 7: It's well, I mean, they did trade for him for
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 7: a reason, Evan, so I think.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 4: They both stuck.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: So as a backup quarterback, you got to give Gino
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: with props.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 4: I think he's been awful since like the first six
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 4: or seven games of last year.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 5: Now he had a good year line.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: All right, We go back to one o'clock on Fox.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: The eight and five Chiefs and Taylor Swift are at
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: the three and ten Patriots.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 4: Casey by seven and a half.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 7: Oh, I got ten and a half. That's that's a
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 7: nice number.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: He teased it down.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 7: I I'm gonna take the points for the Patriots.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 8: I just I have a feeling they're gonna they're gonna
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 8: play him tough. They're gonna they're gonna make life difficult.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 8: I just I don't think that the Patriots have enough
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 8: on offense with Zappi and ultimately Mahomes and Kelsey will
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 8: get it done.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 7: But I think it's it's a little bit close game.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna take.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 8: Oh gosh, now, I got to like do the math
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 8: to make my the number fit. I'm gonna take Kansas
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 8: City twenty three, New England eighteen.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 5: Oh, how do they get to eighteen?
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 3: Hey, one way or another.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 7: I'm in last place seven. I mean, come on, right,
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 7: I shouldn't trust you.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 9: I agree, I think I think especially the defense will
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 9: play really hard, especially if they think Bill's job is
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 9: on the line. Kansas City wins, Patriots cover thirty.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 3: One, twenty.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 4: Four, twenty four.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 3: That's that just checks out?
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 8: Well, I'm gonna see me on a protest if this
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 8: is what happens, Matt, who are we really struggling with?
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: The math is math?
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 7: We're all writers here, are we good letters?
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 4: Not numbers?
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 5: I think the Chiefs shake it off, and.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 7: You couldn't resist.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 5: I couldn't, hear, right, I couldn't. I was going to
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 5: take the Patriots to cover in this game. I have
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 5: twenty four to sixteen Patriots, So I guess if it's
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 5: our chiefs, excuse me, so I guess if it's seven
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 5: and a half, then I'm taking the Chiefs to cover.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 5: I think the Patriots.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 4: You want to change it to make the Patriots cover
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 4: or do you want to stay with.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 5: I'll do twenty four to seventeen so that they can cover.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 5: I think the Patriots make this competitive. It might be
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 5: a back door cover, but I think it's going to
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 5: be competitive and they're going to hang in there against
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 5: Kansas City. But ultimately Kansas City has got much bigger aspirations,
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 5: better quarterback. I think that they take care of.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Kansas City will get right. I think
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 4: they're still maybe the team to beat in the AFC,
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 4: and I think they have to figure out a way
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 4: to get some consistency. And I think they'll come in
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 4: a pretty angry team. And well, I think they didn't
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 4: make it right. No, no, no, I'm not talking about whining.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about how badly they're playing. Oh sorry, I
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 4: missed that one. I don't know the comma off. I
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 4: don't know the calm down one.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: Which one is that you need a con down?
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 4: I don't know that song.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: I like the one Life called slut It's so good.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really good.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know that's the one.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 3: I mean it's a one from the vault.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 4: Oh, so that's why I don't know.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 7: Going deep dive. Where did you get that on your Wikipedia?
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I had to look them up today.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 3: Did you listen to that?
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: No, that's going a step two.
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 4: I don't think the Chiefs are out of the woods yet,
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 4: though I don't either OFFENSI.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: Can I make a pick?
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 4: I want to let everyone keep going. I just want
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 4: to let everyone know that one I got. The first
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 4: one I didn't. I've never heard that other song ever.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: I just want to let everyone know I'm riding the
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: Patriots from here on it for the rest.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 5: In your wildest dreams.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 4: That was mine. So I was my headline.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: We're back to December. I'm there, you go. I'm going
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: with the Patriots to win the game.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 4: This is just bad.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: Twenty four Patriots win. Wow. Yep. So I'm on the bandwagon.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: We're gonna right out the end of the season.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 5: You got zappy fever?
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 4: Yep?
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 7: Is that a song?
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: Draft pick?
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 3: Damn fever?
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: All right. That's it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered.
• 1:58:52
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• 1:58:56
  Speaker 1: then the postgame show. We'll see you next Tuesday.
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