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Take Back Your Joy With Nicole Jacobsmeyer · She Speaks Life - Christian Women, Strengthen Your Faith, Bible Study, Grow Spiritually In Christ

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  Hey guys, welcome back to. She speaks life where we share
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  our faith stories. I'm your host, Jamie Elizabeth
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  and I am so excited to bring to you.
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  My new friend Nicole Jacobs Meyer.
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  She has a story filled with Relentless trials from assault
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  to depression to miscarriage and cancer but she held onto hope
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  the kind that only God can give and how she was encouraged by
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  God's pursuit to Get her through the most difficult Seasons.
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  Her book, take back your joy fighting for purpose.
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  When life is more than you can handle is out.
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  Now, for pre-order, this book will reassure you that we are
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  never alone in our sufferings doubts and questions that we
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  have in life. You'll want to grab that book by
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  the end of our story. So get ready?
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  Be encouraged and let's dive in. Hi Nicole, Welcome to.
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  She speaks life. Jamie, thank you so much for
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  having me. This is so fun, so fun and what
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  an amazing journey you have been on.
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  So before we get into that, I wanted to ask you, do you have a
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  favorite verse of Life verse that you can share with us?
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  Oh, man, I think this changes seasonally for me.
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  I can't be what. I don't think.
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  I'm one of those people that just has this like overarching.
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  This is my verse for my whole life.
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  Life, right? I think that's great.
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  That people can do that. For me, it's just very seasonal
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  and I think right now, just writing this book and going
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  through pain and hardships and suffering.
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  I love Romans 8:18. And it says, for I consider that
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  the sufferings of, this present time are not worth comparing
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  with the glory, that is to be revealed to us.
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  And that is just something that I have been clinging to and
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  trying Fill my mind with that truth, that it's all going to be
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  worth it and to keep going and trust God in all of this.
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  Yeah, mmm. That's a beautiful verse.
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  Yeah. I mean, and you of all people
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  have gone through some suffering of your own and some pain, which
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  we're going to talk about and you wrote a book and it's been
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  published and it's coming out there into the world.
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  Old. I'm so excited for you and I
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  thank you. I gotta say, I love the title,
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  it's called, take back your joy and the subtitle is fighting for
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  purpose. When life is more than you can
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  handle. And how many of us have gone
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  through things in life difficulties?
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  Where we feel like it's more than we can handle.
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  And we're just like Lord like I can't handle one more.
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  And especially by reading your story of how you just got
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  attacked like back-to-back. And it was just amazing to read
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  your story and how God brought you through.
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  And being though, honest with your emotions and dealing with
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  it and then sharing what God had revealed to you.
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  During those times. So I'm super excited because I
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  know women can relate to this. I know I can relate to this and
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  I know what you have to share is going to make an impact.
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  And so, I just wanted to kind of kick off with maybe the
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  beginning of when this dark season was just basically
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  Uninvited and you're like, yeah, so I grew up in a Christian home
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  and so I had a really great surrounding And I am very lucky.
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  I do not take it for granted of my upbringing because I had
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  parents who were Believers friends.
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  All the things and, you know, it's it's almost like I didn't
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  have enough pain and trials to even understand what suffering
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  with and for Christ even looked like until really big things
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  started happening. And huge pains huge traumas,
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  huge sufferings. And And that's when I felt like
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  I was really tested in my faith and even in my understanding of,
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  having a Biblical foundation, and what does the gospel even
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  mean? And how do I live this out?
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  And how can I read, you know, versus like James 12 where it
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  says, consider a joy whenever you face Trials of many kinds?
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  So once in, once I hit College, there were a lot of things that
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  happened in a short. And one of them was I was
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  actually raped. And so, this intense trauma that
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  I was walking through coupled with all these other things
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  surrounding me, like my dad coming out and sharing that he
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  was living a double life and just other things with school
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  and dealing with friends, and there's just so much in such a
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  short period that I didn't know how to even.
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  Get out, really? I didn't know how to keep
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  serving and loving the Lord when nothing made sense and
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  worshipped and make sense and reading the Bible for sure,
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  didn't make sense. Because God was supposed to be
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  my protector. He was supposed to be my
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  provider and the faithful father, and all of these things
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  that it didn't make sense in my own life because of my
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  circumstances. And so that was kind of the
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  time. That I really started digging.
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  And then all these years later, a, whole set of other trials, it
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  kind of hit me and that was the cherry on top of a stacked
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  decade of pain and suffering that I had to.
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  I had to finally just drop before the Lord on my knees and
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  be like, I have nothing, I don't understand.
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  I've got nothing left. So it's been a very hard hard
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  journey for sure. Now, I know when somebody goes
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  through a right there, like obviously going God, where were
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  you? Right?
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  Tell me, how did you heal from that?
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  How did you heal from that question?
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  God, where were you, how could you let this happen?
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  I honestly, it took me years and years like there are still
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  things that I will have to. A place before him and just say
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  I don't get this and I don't understand, help me to trust.
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  You help me to know your true character.
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  I mean, those, those questions still come.
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  So even though, you know, I wrote a book about joy and all
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  the suffering and whatever that still doesn't mean that I have,
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  it just easy all the time to understand.
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  Oh the truth of the gospel and God's character and I just have
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  all this knowledge, it's living it out and it's like the Choices
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  to keep going and keep serving and keep understanding the truth
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  and keep reading the word. And, I mean, it was years of
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  intense counseling. It was years of, really, just me
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  and the Lord, when I had no one else, one of the things that I
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  think pulled me out of that too, was the woman's director and she
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  was also involved in missions. She of our church.
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  She ended up calling me. I think it was Gosh, within the
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  month of all of this happening and invited me to her office and
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  asked me to lead the missions trip to Nepal that next summer.
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  And I just of course I was like absolutely not.
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  Are you kidding me? I'm like the most broken I've
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  ever been in my entire life and I don't even know if I love God
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  right now. So no I'm not doing that.
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  And she what she said to me, she was like Nicole.
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  I know that God has called you to this because you have nothing
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  to offer. And in your complete Brokenness
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  and weakness, he's gonna he's Gonna Shine through and he's
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  going to show up. And so I was just bawling
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  because I felt like it was a second chance.
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  I felt like it was, you know, taking responsibility and the
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  fact that God used other people to almost bring out this service
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  in me so that I didn't Focus so much on myself and my pain.
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  And what I was walking through and the doubting and the
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  questions It was almost like I had, I had a lot of that over
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  the years, of course, but serving this team and going
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  overseas and witnessing to women who have had it a thousand times
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  worse than I have ever had it. And just showing up and being
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  the hands and feet of Christ to other people that that really
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  helps me that helped me recover so good and so true.
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  True. So I know that when we're
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  walking through some dark Seasons that I remember, going
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  through the worst financial hardship.
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  I mean, we're talking about borrowing money to put food on
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  the table. You got three small, kids, your
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  husband's out of a job. I mean awful, right?
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  And so I remember reluctantly going to the Valentine
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  neighborhood party for moms and kids and approaching this
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  Pinterest looking Front door. You know, where I could barely
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  buy chocolate Valentine candy for my kids, and I'm walking up,
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  and I've just got the. I just knew, I've got this mask
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  on this trying to crack a smile, but inside, I am just broken and
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  I'm crumbling. And so, during your dark
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  seasons, did you feel this pressure to put on this smile?
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  And You know, if we have a friend that's listening that's
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  going through hardship herself. Like what do you say to that
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  person? If they are avoiding their
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  emotions. Yeah.
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  So I completely understand putting that like fake face on
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  after trauma because you're so traumatized that it's like it
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  doesn't even register in your brain what's actually happening.
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  I remember going into this The one of the like police rooms to
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  talk about this investigation that we were going to have to
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  have after everything happened and I was like oh hey how are
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  you guys? And they're like right in that
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  in the notes like okay you know I'm sure they're just like she
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  is she is so traumatized like she doesn't even know what's
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  coming. And so I think that there's a
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  difference between sufferings right in the type of pain that
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  you are walking. Trauma is Is I think a whole
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  other ball game that you really have to sift through and see
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  counseling and just it's a it's a long road ahead, but I think
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  in other things that are really devastating, that could be
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  equally as devastating in your in your heart, soul and mind.
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  And with your walk with the Lord, I think we have to realize
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  the difference between joy and happiness because we're not
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  called to just be like Fake. You know, and we have a
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  responsibility to ourselves to the people around us and to the
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  Lord to be honest. And I think that there's a time
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  and a place for all of that there's a time and a place to
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  vent and let it out. But how in the world are we
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  going to take this a step of healing?
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  If we can't even be honest and we can't even be real and I just
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  I have done a lot of things wrong.
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  Wrong in my life. But one thing is I am always
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  honest because that's the only thing that sometimes you can
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  rely on that to to just be authentic before him and be like
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  I don't get this and I'm mad and I'm hurt and I don't understand.
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  And I don't want to read the Bible and I'm angry.
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  And this is how I am, I don't. And and other people you will
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  see that if you're just honest and This authentic but humble
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  like character that comes around with people, they're going to be
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  able to share your going to be able to share in each other's
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  sufferings as the Bible clearly tells us to do and we can't we
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  can't it starts with us though. We can't expect other women to
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  be like okay once they share maybe then I will like let's
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  just cut past all of that and just be honest that we are all
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  broken. Okin and we all need a savior
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  and we've all had horrible things.
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  And we've all walked through something and we need, we all
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  need Jesus. And so this isn't like a 1-up
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  game, you know. So, definitely be real with your
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  emotions. Definitely be honest before the
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  Lord. I mean, that's kind of where I
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  have to land. Oh, so true.
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  I mean over and over again. I say it many times.
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  I think on this podcast, like, God can handle our Shins are
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  questions. Our anger, like get it all out.
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  He already sees it and in your heart and I love that you also
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  touched on. Share your story.
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  Your sufferings with another woman because I know when I lead
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  a Bible study or facilitate something, you know, you read
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  like how to be a leader, you know, share your story as it, it
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  works because people are just waiting for somebody to share
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  something. That's Real and and not fluffy
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  and then they feel, oh, it's okay.
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  I got permission to share my junk, you know, I so when we
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  reveal we heal, it's not just to go and vomit on it us and stay
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  in that place of right? Don't stay there.
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  Don't, don't stay there. It's actual a step to get out
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  and not to swim in it. So, absolutely, so good.
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  I love everything you said. So in your Take back your joy,
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  one of the chapters you invite women to discover joy in their
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  everyday moments in life, why do you think that it's important to
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  stay in the present and not be? You know, stuck in your past or
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  even be so focused on your future that you miss out in the
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  presence. And you know what are those
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  steps that we can take to really see the president because I can
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  relate. I've been going through this the
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  last few months where God has really been touching on my heart
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  saying stay in the present quit looking at the future.
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  So yeah, share. I'd love to knit.
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  I definitely think there's wisdom in planning and having
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  things in order. Like that's obviously not what
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  we're talking about. But right, I I really think this
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  this chapter came out of Being confined to my bed after cancer
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  and healing and I could do nothing.
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  And I was so depressed. And so just in this complete
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  darkness of doubts, and questions, and anger, and I kind
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  of, I lost it. I lost my fight, I completely
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  lost my fight. I gave up, I was over it, and I
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  couldn't see how I could move on, to be honest.
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  And I didn't see how This new idea of Nicole and how I was,
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  you know, on medication and and to to keep me alive, you know,
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  and it's like I lost my energy and I just wasn't the same
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  person and I hated that. And so I realized that over time
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  when I would get up and put some jeans on and make my lunches for
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  the kids and take him to baseball, make a meal. my family
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  may be clean out a drawer like little things that were right in
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  front of me that I needed to get done helped, pull me out of that
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  type of depression and I think that I mean serving obviously is
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  just a huge thing in general overarching theme in the book
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  but I think being able to serve your family and look at what is
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  right in front of you, with your kids and your friends, and the
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  circle of influence, that guy, God has given you and you are
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  responsible for that that he placed you in that family with
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  those kids as that mom, as that spouse, like, whatever as that
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  best friend for a reason. And we need to, we need to not
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  put those burdens on ourselves of.
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  We have to be perfect or we have to be the best or anything but
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  just being exactly where God wants you to be.
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  And In content in that, I also think for social media, it's a
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  huge thing, you know, being content with where you are and
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  focused in your lane helps you not look around at everyone else
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  and because we can just get so uptight and jealous, and that's
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  a whole other thing, you know. Oh, I know, I know you mentioned
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  that in the book. That it's a joy.
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  Stealer, you know, I've heard you a killer and you know I
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  think it can bend that way. It can be like I'm just Just
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  like, it's a, it's a Bittersweet kind of relationship like, you
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  know, like if you're feeling pressured to post and got this
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  yucky feeling like that's time to take a break and maybe
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  reevaluate. Yeah.
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  Do I want to be on here? And you know what?
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  I did the other day I actually turn I turned off all likes so I
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  can never see likes. I can't see views.
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  I can't even see my own unless I go up and down on it, I didn't
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  know that. Option.
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  Oh my goodness, it's been amazing.
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  Because I'm like I don't care anymore.
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  It's okay. You know, like you don't have to
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  play that game and yeah, we can engage when you want and post a
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  new W and it's so free. You know, that's smart and I
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  even know that there was an option to do that because that
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  is where that they're finding the whatever chemical in your
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  brain. You respond from the likes and
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  the and the comments or whatever that you start to get addicted.
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  And to, right and it starts to be The Driver, you know?
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  Oh, I didn't get many likes on this one, you know, you know,
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  I'm not gonna pose you get down, you know, and it starts to kind
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  of control your mood for that day.
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  I mean, I know that they're that happens because there's a
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  chemical. There's an actual thing that's
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  changing in your brain. Yes.
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  So everyone who's listening go? Yeah, I'm not you're not feel
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  like I'm trying to think of Chemical a brain, but there's
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  some kind of shift in there that happens that I brought about,
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  but anyway. Okay, so along with you going
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  through a horrible situation where you were raped and then
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  you came down with cancer and you're a cancer survivor.
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  Yeah, got out of that. Thank you.
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  Jesus. Yes.
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  And then you went through a period of grief from From a
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  miscarriage, that's a huge loss. You know, and itself.
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  I remember I went through one, I was only about month along, but
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  I remember it was pretty sad. That was a devastating thing
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  that I thought happened to other people.
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  It's not going to happen to me. But just knowing that there was
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  a life in there and that you're showing signs of losing it.
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  I mean, that's, that's horrible and sad.
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  And what could you share on? You know, encouragement going
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  through that type of grief. It was really hard because I
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  lost this baby and then we found out we were moving across the
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  country and then I was diagnosed with cancer within like, a few
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  months of each other. And so I don't think I was able
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  to fully grieve the loss until I was starting to heal from cancer
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  and like, coming out of that because it was also, Also quick
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  that I didn't get to sit and and more and I was more focused on
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  like what happens if I don't wake up after surgery, like what
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  is my family going to do? And it was the most depressing,
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  horrible season because of that. And then afterwards, obviously,
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  I was starting to heal. The surgery went amazing.
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  The treatment went great. Everything's been clear and
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  scans have been wonderful. Praise God.
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  All the things. And then it was like, oh my
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  gosh, I lost a baby. And that was, it was almost like
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  I got hit twice with it because there was so much time in
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  between two when I actually was able to process.
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  And then it was just like adding to the depression and making it
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  even worse because I was so excited for another baby last
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  baby. You know, and And then it's like
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  my whole all my plans got ruined x 100, you know?
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  And right, I didn't, I didn't know how to deal with that but
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  to anyone who's been through that, it's honestly, there's not
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  a right answer or a right as a mom who's walked that.
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  It is just one of the worst things and I don't really know.
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  Besides, like that verse I shared in the beginning that the
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  sufferings we face Here on Earth are nothing compared to the
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  glory that is going to be revealed and the good ahead you
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  know when when Christ returns but that's just yeah, it's such
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  a hard place. It's so it and it's tender and
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  it's touchy and it's just it's just hard.
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  Yeah, I had two ladies. Come on here they have a
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  Ministry, I believe it's called unknown Ministry and they help
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  women going through that grief and that loss.
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  And They do amazing work because it is a journey and you know,
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  there's not some time limit on when you heal, you know,
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  everyone's different and they have all kinds of resources on
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  that which is so good. But I know you had mentioned
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  going back to your book that during your cancer treatment
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  that you kind of then shifted from your agenda to the Lord's
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  agenda and you know, we All know about gratitude and how that
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  impacts us. So what was that correlation for
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  you with gratitude and joy? What did you find during that
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  time when you just gave? Thanks the Lord I think I was
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  because I was basically debilitated on my bed for so
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  long. I remember watching other people
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  serve when I couldn't do anything and they would I had to
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  be on the receiving end. Both serving me waiting on me.
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  Helping me. And my husband was not only the
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  rock of the family that year, but he also was, it was like a
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  whole nother aspect of our marriage was being shown.
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  And I mean, I don't know how detailed you want me to get.
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  But I mean there was like, he had to do some pretty nasty
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  stuff, like, changed my neck drains and yeah, help me wipe my
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  butt. Like bright green hair, all the
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  things, it's like all of it. I couldn't do any all the things
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  you were do. He has right.
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  You. And it's like him stepping in.
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  And that way I mean that really makes you sit back and say, oh
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  my gosh, thank you so much Lord for number one, helping me find
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  this amazing man and putting him in my life.
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  So that all these years later after we got married, he is in
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  this split in this place being able All to serve in this way
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  and love me in this way. Like that is, that's huge.
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  And then seeing how he was with the kids and and how he just I
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  mean this was his intern year of pediatric residency and he had
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  to be playing mom and dad and curtain the kids around and
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  figuring out all the things and while I'm just like healing from
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  surgery, it's I had surgery the same week he started so it's
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  like it helps you. You when you shift from your
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  control, your agenda and starting to see God through the
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  people around you, it gives you this such a gratitude that
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  you're able to sit back and see things that you're thankful for
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  that you probably couldn't have seen before.
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  Yeah. Mmm.
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  So good hard and it was hard because I'm like, such a power
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  through person, right, I'm sure. And and I See you like that,
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  Supernatural those strength through your husband, being able
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  to do all that. I mean, that's not on his own
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  strength, that's on the Lord's strength for him to be able to
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  do that, you're saying about service, being a bridge from
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  Pain to purpose, what you wrote that in the book.
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  And so I just wanted you to kind of explain since you're talking
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  about serving, which I just love because that is such a key to
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  have that joy and to sustain that.
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  Joy in US, is when we're taking the focus off ourselves and
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  putting it in serving others. For me, it's always looking
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  back, is always looking back at remembering what God has done.
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  Because when you're in the middle of pain and you're in the
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  middle of a horrific experience, you're not like, oh, there's got
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  to be purpose in this, you know. Yeah.
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  Right. You don't see, you don't see
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  that and know you don't. Yeah.
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  Right. Like you're so focused on
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  healing and can I breathe? Can I get up out of bed and can
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  I get out of this circumstance? Whatever it is.
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  You're just like total survival mode and so I think being able
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  to look back and see this all the things that God did in this
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  analogy of like a bridge from this painful experience, in
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  these awful, things that have happened and then being able to
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  look over your life. Maybe it's months, maybe it's
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  years, maybe it's decades that you're seeing Seeing this bridge
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  of finally. Okay, I see a purpose in that.
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  I see what God is doing. I know you touched on
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  complaining and when is that time that you say, like, you
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  know, stop staying stock. Stop the complaining.
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  And when we should start pursuing, what God has for us, I
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  think we don't give ourselves enough credit in this, because I
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  think we know, I think we know when it's enough when it's like,
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  okay, stop, yeah. Like, all you're doing now is
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  just this cycle of like a downward spiral.
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  Now, it's not even a cycle anymore.
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  It's now going downwards, we do. And that's why we have to be
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  cognizant of where we are. We have to be mindful and
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  focused on, okay? If this is clearly making me go
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  lower and lower and just bring me down and I'm not doing
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  anything to take a first step that shows that you're probably
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  in the little complaining cycle. Yeah.
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  And I think it's, I think we know and I can't, I'm a really
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  great complainer. I I feel like there's so many
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  things that I just. I immediately vocalize it,
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  right? So that's like I'm a, I'm a
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  verbal processor and so I'll just say it right then out loud,
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  but I try not to stay there and I think it's fine to vent with
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  your And sorta, you know, you need to talk something out with
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  your husband, I mean, that's that's totally normal, right?
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  But once it gets to that, okay, you're bringing everybody down
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  around you, and that's not healthy.
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  I think we know. Okay, yeah, I should stop.
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  Yeah, when it's constant and I think it's, it's easier to
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  complain. It's, you know, that's where
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  cheer. All right?
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  But default is like, I'm just going to do what's easy.
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  ER, it's easier to just sit there and complain and whine and
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  it's harder to actually, you know, stop control our tongue
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  and take it to the Lord and prayer and re new our mind with
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  his word, right? That's just how it is.
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  But we know that that is the solution that is going to his
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  word. Will help us to have a better
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  perspective has Have his perspective on things in life.
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  So yes. Yeah, so true.
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  I love that. You talked about the struggle,
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  you know, with women and how confidence and contentment in
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  Christ. You know does not always become
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  this natural thing to us. Right?
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  And talking about our default so I just want you to share kind of
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  like what are those faithful step?
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  Oops, that women can take to grab onto that Godly confidence
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  and contentment which I just absolutely love.
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  Those two words. I think, well, one I think is
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  different for everybody because it depends on so many things,
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  like the type of Trials you're going through or are you in a
• 31:18
  great season or you in a really awful season?
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  So how does that, you know, how does that look?
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  But I think with contentment and confidence, Being able to one be
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  authentic before the Lord. Number two, get in the word,
• 31:35
  always get in the word because we need to know our Bibles and
• 31:39
  we need to know verses that are being posted on Instagram and
• 31:44
  the wrong way. We need to be able to discern
• 31:47
  and know what's truth and what are lies.
• 31:50
  And we need to know God's character and knowing those
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  things will bring that contentment and confidence.
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  Because then you know who you are and who you're serving and
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  it's a journey. It's not like a simple.
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  I mean it's simple but it takes time to train our minds to go to
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  the word instead of somebody else or remember God's true
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  character for us and his grace and his love for us instead of
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  you know, like I did after cancer just being so mad at him.
• 32:23
  Well why was I mad? It's because my theology on
• 32:25
  suffering. Was very much lacking and that's
• 32:30
  those are the things for me that I really had to work through in
• 32:33
  order to gain that contentment and confidence but it is a
• 32:37
  daily, it's a daily Choice. It's a daily lesson and things
• 32:41
  that we have to grow in and learn because we're never going
• 32:45
  to all have it figured out you know really as it is a daily
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  Journey. Okay.
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  I'd love to finish our episodes with a takeaway.
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  Do you have something that you can deliver?
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  To our friend here that's listening, so she can ponder on
• 33:01
  for the day. Yes, I not only going back to
• 33:05
  the first verse that I've shared a couple times with Romans 8:18
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  and focusing on the glory, that is to be revealed instead of the
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  trials. Now, but also just a takeaway of
• 33:18
  our lives, are about making Christ known Even in our
• 33:22
  sufferings and sometimes most of all and are suffering.
• 33:27
  It's because it's really easy to love God and love people when
• 33:33
  everything is going great and to be able to Showcase God and who
• 33:40
  he is and the Miracles he does. And how he's the only one that
• 33:45
  can transform and renew and restore and redeem, our and
• 33:49
  heal. All those things in our lives.
• 33:53
  It's about making him known even in the worst place.
• 33:57
  So God I love it. Take back your joy is coming
• 34:02
  out. Okay, tell us when it comes out
• 34:04
  and where people can connect with you and buy your book and
• 34:09
  all that good stuff. Yes.
• 34:10
  So it comes out October 4th, officially, yay.
• 34:15
  But it is up for pre-order, I think it's Amazon Mardell.
• 34:20
  Christian Bookstore Barnes & Noble.
• 34:24
  There may be another one but those are them now.
• 34:27
  But, You can just go to Nicole Jacobs wire.com and or go to
• 34:31
  Instagram, Nicole Jacobs Meyer, and all the info.
• 34:35
  All the book things are on there and right now, we even have
• 34:38
  pre-orders. So you get the audio book, you
• 34:41
  get free lock screens and the first chapter, and all these fun
• 34:46
  reflection guides and you can join the launch Team.
• 34:48
  There's so many fun things right now.
• 34:50
  So merchandised, all the good stuff.
• 34:53
  Yeah, it's awesome. I gotta say it's so cool to be
• 34:56
  part of a book Lon. Ange.
• 34:57
  Yes, we have so many fun things and I would love to meet
• 35:01
  everybody whether that's virtually or in the launch Team
• 35:04
  or even in my diems on Instagram.
• 35:08
  Sometimes they hi. Yes.
• 35:10
  Because we're here to build each other up, right?
• 35:13
  Yeah. See there for other women, so
• 35:15
  good. Alright, Nicole, well, thank you
• 35:17
  for coming on here and sharing your story.
• 35:20
  It was so rich with wisdom for us.
• 35:24
  The gleaning on on how to get through.
• 35:27
  Those trials and still have joy, so thank you.
• 35:31
  Thank you so much Jamie. It has been a joy so grateful
• 35:35
  for you. Thank you so much for listening
• 35:39
  today and I trust that God has encouraged you through this
• 35:42
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• 35:53
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• 35:57
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• 36:04
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• 36:12
  next time my friend. I hope God reveals himself
• 36:15
  through your own life story.