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Secret Service Cuts, JFK Files, Astronaut Rescues, & More: This Week in Politics · The Elsa Kurt Show

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  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I feel like we should just like go in order of appearance here, or in order of arrival.
• 2:38
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about this guy right here, huh.
• 2:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so this was, you know, it's it.
• 2:45
  Speaker 3: Baby steps, right, we've all got, remember baby steps.
• 2:49
  Speaker 3: Um, you know, president trump, really you know this started with, uh, secretary of state a couple of weeks ago, you know, and then we had the zielinski in the oval office and that didn't go well.
• 3:03
  Speaker 3: And then, um, you know, and then Zelensky came back and he said, ok, maybe.
• 3:08
  Speaker 3: And then they agreed to conditions for a 30 day ceasefire.
• 3:12
  Speaker 3: And then President Trump got on the phone with Putin and it sounds like somewhere.
• 3:19
  Speaker 3: I've heard 90 minutes, I've heard two hours, but they were on the phone for quite a long time and you know what came out of it were the first steps of conditions for ceasefire, which was no targeting of Ukrainian infrastructure by Russia.
• 3:41
  Speaker 3: I think it's probably two ways, but that's what Putin agreed to was like listen, I'll lay off of infrastructure.
• 3:48
  Speaker 3: Now it immediately violated that within a few hours.
• 3:53
  Speaker 3: I would venture to guess that communications don't move as rapidly through the Russian military system as we think they do.
• 4:05
  Speaker 3: So while he hung up the phone with President Trump, it probably took way too long to, you know, stop the operations that were already planned and, you know, kind of underway.
• 4:17
  Speaker 3: So, but that is the baby step.
• 4:21
  Speaker 3: So Putin agreed to at least now non-infrastructure energy infrastructure attacks for 30 days, but this is ongoing discussion.
• 4:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so do you think that is, you know, innocent, so to speak, that the timing of the agreement or the partial ceasefire there, and then that?
• 4:46
  Speaker 2: Do you think that was legitimate, like a legitimately a chain of communication error, or do you think that was a little?
• 4:55
  Speaker 3: malicious.
• 4:56
  Speaker 3: I think it's a coin flip.
• 4:58
  Speaker 3: Truthfully, I think either one is is likely, and I think you'd have a problem disproving either one of them or proving either one of them.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, I think you know, is Putin smart enough to get one last shot in before it starts?
• 5:16
  Speaker 3: Sure he is.
• 5:17
  Speaker 3: Could it be incompetence or lack of capability at their level to get down to the you know, the units that are executing stuff?
• 5:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's possible.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, unless somebody's got some really, really inside baseball into Russian military communications, they'd be, they'd be hard pressed to prove it one way or the other.
• 5:35
  Speaker 3: But I think it's a coin flip.
• 5:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, of course, the, the media, the mainstream media is is going to run with.
• 5:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you see, you see, trump trusts him too much and and this is what happens, and you know.
• 5:49
  Speaker 2: So, from that perspective, it's definitely um, you know, it's a bummer.
• 5:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, I hate to say that so lightly when we're talking about, you know, actions of war, but uh, but yeah, it's I, I hate giving them any little bit of anything, so that's unfortunate.
• 6:09
  Speaker 3: Well, what people forget is that, besides loss of life and loss of equipment, which is obviously of a great concern, russia has no reason to stop doing what they're doing right none.
• 6:26
  Speaker 3: they have no reason.
• 6:27
  Speaker 3: Ukraine's never going to beat them without nato's help.
• 6:31
  Speaker 3: So you know, russia can force the issue as long as they want, and either they will, you know, through truthfully, with with significant loss of life and equipment.
• 6:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's war and it's not.
• 6:44
  Speaker 3: You know it's pretty ugly, but they could take Ukraine, they could right up until NATO steps in.
• 6:51
  Speaker 3: So you know, putin doesn't have to agree to anything.
• 6:55
  Speaker 3: The fact that he even had the phone call and even agreed to the infrastructure thing, you know, I think is a good sign.
• 7:01
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, he's not an idiot, he knows, if you know he, okay, so I'm going to stop blowing up power plants which, if I take over Ukraine, I'm going to have to rebuild anyway.
• 7:13
  Speaker 3: Ok, fine, right, sure.
• 7:14
  Speaker 3: So you know, I think it's just the fact that there's an open line of communication at this point and the fact that they are having more talks I think Secretary Rubio is in Saudi Arabia right now, maybe somewhere in that region, having talks with, you know, russian representation as well as the Ukrainians.
• 7:35
  Speaker 3: So it's progressing, do?
• 7:39
  Speaker 3: I think it will continue?
• 7:40
  Speaker 3: I think the ceasefire, the limited scope of this ceasefire, I think will continue, but I think it's.
• 7:47
  Speaker 3: You know, a crack communication is being opened, and who's it?
• 8:05
  Speaker 2: being opened by president Trump.
• 8:07
  Speaker 2: You know, and and I think that's a good feather in the cap right now to be the facilitators of, of peace essentially, you know, and yeah, I mean I think it's great, I think you know what I think is actually really great and I can you can tell me if I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Biden certainly never did anything like this, or I don't know if any president before um he Trump, president Trump released the transcript from the phone call or was it just like a summary of it?
• 8:38
  Speaker 2: I feel like I read somewhere that he released the transcript of the conversation.
• 8:43
  Speaker 2: I'm sure there were parts that were heavily redacted if he did, for obvious reasons.
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: But yeah, again, I've said it so many times over the past were we in March, in the past couple months, about this administration's attempt at transparency, so that we really feel like we know what's happening here?
• 9:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know about a released transcript that I hadn't seen.
• 9:10
  Speaker 3: That Um and and you know there's always the closed door and then in front of the cameras, right, there's reasons for that Um, which again I hate to go back to the Oval Office and Zelensky thing but that's a direct result of him not kind of honoring the you know we're out in public kind of conduct and he threw a curveball President Trump, and that's why that whole thing went south.
• 9:34
  Speaker 3: But there's a couple of other things that have been happening on the fringes of this that matter, and the first is, you know, putin has said repeatedly, over and over again, one of his conditions to end the war is an ironclad agreement that Ukraine will never be part of NATO.
• 9:51
  Speaker 3: I've been listen, I've been saying this since a year ago.
• 9:54
  Speaker 3: Right Now, the NATO Secretary General just came out within the last few days and said Ukraine will never be a part of NATO out within the last few days and said Ukraine will never be a part of NATO.
• 10:08
  Speaker 3: Okay, so you know, and because he recognizes that a couple of you know all Russia wants is a.
• 10:14
  Speaker 3: They've got a buffer, that's what they want.
• 10:19
  Speaker 3: Ukraine's part of that buffer, it's part of the agreements that have been made both formally and informally since 1989.
• 10:24
  Speaker 3: And he understands that that is the linchpin for all of this with Putin.
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: And he said it.
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  Speaker 3: This NATO secretary general, who really doesn't have decision authority over this kind of stuff you know it's the voting body of NATO will decide, but he has voiced his opinion and said that they can never become part of NATO.
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: So that weighs a lot and really that's all.
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: That's all Putin's looking for right now.
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: Now, again, it goes back to what you said about.
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  Speaker 3: You know, can you trust him?
• 10:54
  Speaker 3: Can you not?
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  Speaker 3: Can you this, can you that?
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: And you know the reality is is that you've got to give a little to get a little.
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: And right now, an agreement to you know, say that Ukraine's not going to be a part of NATO.
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  Speaker 3: I think stops this.
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  Speaker 3: There are already NATO nations, france being one of them, who's talking.
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: They're talking about putting NATO troops into Ukraine, which is we've done NATO UN peacekeeping operations, right, and really what you're doing is creating a buffer, right Immediately between the Russians and the Ukrainians.
• 11:33
  Speaker 3: You put NATO troops in the middle and it forces Russia to not attack because you're putting NATO troops at risk.
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: Yes, so I think that that is a horrible, horrible decision, because again you are this, that's an all or nothing proposition.
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: What you can't have, say, a French unit in there and the Russians don't know they're French, or they don't recognize they're French, or they play dumb and you know, and they kill some French soldiers.
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  Speaker 3: Then what does NATO do?
• 12:04
  Speaker 3: Like really, what does NATO do?
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: How do they respond?
• 12:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, you're talking about forcing the issue with World War III by sticking NATO in the middle of this when you haven't exhausted all opportunities for a ceasefire prior to that.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Like it's really a dangerous game that Macron and the others are playing with this.
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, they're not going to get full NATO support to do it.
• 12:30
  Speaker 3: The Italians have already said no, the Hungarians have already said no.
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: There's a bunch of nations that are not willing to stick their troops in the middle of this, so it becomes dicey inside of NATO by itself, let alone a lone NATO nation or two doing it without support of the rest of the organization.
• 12:48
  Speaker 3: So even talking about that's a little bit dicey, but I think that's a horrible decision on their part if they haven't exhausted all opportunities.
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: Because oh, by the way, we're not putting Americans in there.
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, absolutely not Trump, trump, trump won't allow it.
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: You know it's it just feels like and I'm sure to some degree I'm wrong, but man, it just feels like Trump is the only one who's really trying to make peace happen.
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: You know, everybody else just wants to cause more conflict, and we know why.
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: I mean it's all about money and power and strength and all of the things, and war equals money for them.
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: You know, I get it on the intellectual level that that's the why War is big business, obviously.
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: But man, oh man, it's crazy.
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: I think it kind of goes back to what you've said probably more than once in the past about.
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: You know, unless you're willing to and of course Trump said it as well, you know unless you're willing to go into battle yourself, you better just back up, back up and back off, right?
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of people, americans included, you know, who are fully in support of all this but certainly are not volunteering to go themselves and definitely are not signing their kids up for it.
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: So, you know it, put your money where your mouth is or shut up Um and and.
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: So if you've got a teenage boy or girl at home, if you want to look four years down the road, and if you're not willing to to put them, you know, into the fray, then you know, keep it to yourself, because that's what you're talking about doing, that's what's going to escalate to as it stands, with what NATO is talking about doing.
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and if you want to and that's a great, great points and if you want to keep going in that vein, you can pretty much say to everyone that you know you should be praying and asking and working for whatever your capacity is of what you do.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: If you're just sitting back, you know, watching the news, then I guess it's praying or hoping for you.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: Um, that the ceasefire is more than a partial ceasefire, is a complete ceasefire.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: That's what everyone's eyes should be on for the prize, you know, simple as I mean, it is that simple, and I know all of the, the machinations of everything is not simple, but the desire should be simple.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: So we shall see.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: It's all conditional and I get it, but conditions have to be met, you know.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: It's got to be a worthwhile thing for both sides, you know, and President Trump is the dealmaker.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: That's who he is, we all know that.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: So you know it'll be something that's palatable for Russia.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: It'll be something that is palatable for Ukraine.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: Ukraine, truthfully, at this point, should take just about anything that's handed them Absolutely, and the rest of Europe should do the same, because otherwise they're going to, you know, they're going to be engulfed in this, whether they want to or not, and you know, and it's not going to be pretty.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, there are so many, and most of Europe and most of NATO has depleted their military so much in the last 30 years that this is not, you know, 1988, the year before the wall fell.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: It's not.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: Germany is not capable, france is not.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: There's very little military, real military capability left in Europe.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: So it is going to be a NATO thing and it's going to be everybody.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: So they should all be hoping for a ceasefire.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Anybody who's talking against a ceasefire is crazy, namely being this mass illegal immigration that's going on and these, you know, animals basically taking over their country.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: So everybody's got something to focus on in their own house.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: So how about you know, it's just common sense Everybody work toward peace, work toward ceasefires, clean your own houses and then you know whatever, whatever's next after that.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: But holy cow.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's actually a candidate, not the Labour Party, which is currently in power and in England as it stands, or in the UK as it stands, but there is a candidate coming from the opposing party, the conservative party, who has stood up and said watch Trump, watch what.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: And he is going to run to be prime minister under the exact same mindset, the exact, you know, like hard on crime, close the borders.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: You know, englishman, uk residents, first take care of ourselves, take care of our defense, take care of our trade.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Like he is running under the exact same mindset as President Trump.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: And you're starting to see pockets of this all over the place, across European nations, across European nations.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: So, you know, this common sense leadership is kind of rising to the top and hopefully that common sense is going to keep not just Ukraine safe and the war keep them in existence, but all of those Eastern Europe and really the rest of Europe as a whole.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Common sense should prevail and we just, you know, take the ceasefire, move on and everybody just lives another day.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, absolutely.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Ceasefire is the term of the half hour.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: You got to honor it, though.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: What's that?
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: You have to honor the ceasefire.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Listen, I know that Israel is the one who technically broke the ceasefire.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Okay, I understand that Airstrikes yesterday, but also ground troops today back into Gaza for the first time since the ceasefire.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: But the question is why?
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: And it's because Hamas broke the conditions of the ceasefire, which had to do with returning of prisoners, returning of, you know, remains of prisoners and those kinds of things.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: So you know Israel did what they do.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: The first thing they did was they killed the political leader of Hamas in Gaza.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: First strike, boom done, followed it up with a couple of more airstrikes and now we're moving troops back in.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: So you know again, president Trump and Secretary Rubio and everybody else, you know they brokered this deal.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Everybody knew the conditions.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Israel was behaving as much as they don't want to, they were behaving based on the conditions of the ceasefire and then Hamas violated the conditions of the ceasefire.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: So you know Israel did what they do.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what you know my perspective on that is asking Israel to hold back.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: It's a big ask.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: It's a big ask, you know.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: And if they're going to keep provoking and it's such an understatement of what they're doing if they're going to keep breaking these agreements, israel has a right to defend themselves.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: They have the right to protect their own.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: So you know, to expect otherwise is is kind of absurd, really, and you're dealing with people that don't follow the rules.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: So, unless somehow you get them to agree to a true ceasefire, which they've already proven time and again, you know and I think that's kind of the position here that, like sure, we can come to an agreement every day of the week, and every other day of the week they're going to break it.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I can promise you that.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: You know Netanyahu honored the ceasefire because it was an agreement that him and Trump came to truthfully, to truthfully, and I'm sure, I'm sure Bibi told him okay, I agree to it, However, right.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: And then you know, at first opportunity, when Hamas didn't honor the conditions of the ceasefire, you know Israel did what they do, but I can what they're also doing now, and I know that during the ceasefire I know people don't want to believe this, but Hamas was doing what Hamas does during the ceasefire they were rearming, they were moving things around, they were repairing, you know, tunnels, they were setting up new, new bases underneath hospitals and schools and everything else.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: They were doing all the things they normally do.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Yes, they're reestablishing their chain of command after it got decimated by the Israelis.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: So they're just resetting themselves and they were using the ceasefire to do it with and they violated the ceasefire.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: And I can promise you, the Israelis are going in there they went in there today troops into Gaza and they're going to find all evidence of all of those things.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: They're going to find evidence of new tunnels.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: They're going to find evidence of new you know munitions being moved around and new rocket launching sites and all kinds of stuff.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: And then you've got the outside interference.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: You know you've got the, the Houthis that fired.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: You know that are firing into, you know, into Gaza or into into Israel, you know Iran sticking their nose in the middle of this, like there's a lot of outside actors getting involved again or still, but it's again.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: It's because there was a ceasefire.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Hamas didn't honor the conditions of the ceasefire.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, simple as that.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: And of course, you know the other side will will try and tell you differently, but that is the simple fact.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: And and that is, you know, unfortunately, as hopeful as I'd like to be, you know, talking about the previous ceasefire there, as hopeful as I'd like to be, I mean, we're talking about something that is centuries old.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Right, that I don't.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I don't, I honestly don't think, I don't believe that there ever truly will be a ceasefire.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: There will be momentary pauses.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: I will commend president Trump all day long, every day, on every attempt that he makes to have this happen, but you know, they, they have proven themselves completely untrustworthy to keep their word.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: And there's, like you know, like you were saying, there's so many different factions that have it in for Israel and I don't know, I mean, if Trump could actually make that happen, uh, that would probably be one of the greatest miracles we'll ever see.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I think the most we can hope for is like a longer term time frame of peacefulness, you know, and but of course, israel is never going to be able to let their guard down, ever, ever, nor nor would they.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm stating the obvious, of course.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: No, you said it, it's centuries old.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know all crusades and like.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: This has been going on forever.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Like Israel, jerusalem specifically has been like at the epicenter of religious conflict for as far back as there's written history, basically.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: And so you know it's not going to.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: I'm not a believer that the two-state solution is possible, and it's not because of Israel.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Israel has proven, if you know anything about Israel itself, the nation, not necessarily about the Israeli government, but the nation there's plenty of you know Muslim Palestinian Arab businesses that exist, muslims that serve in the IDF, in the Israeli Defense Force.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: There's plenty of that on the Israeli side of things.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: What doesn't allow for a two-state solution is organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah and the Houthis and the Iranians and everything else.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: So Israel is and always will be an island against the Arab world and that's not going to change.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: So even if Hamas goes away, they will still be under threat of terror attacks by radicalized Muslims.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: As long as there is an Israel period.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: They'll never be able to let their guard down.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: But I think the attempts at the two-state solution are a wasted effort.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: I would love to argue that there's no argument, it's just a fact, right?
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what would be optimal is if you could get and this started at the end of President Trump's last term if you could get a nation like the Saudis right to step in and broker this right, yeah, or the Kuwaitis, or somebody, and say, listen, yeah, all you Palestinians, pack your stuff right, just just move, come on, we'll, we'll give you a place and and and take care of it that way, because they know the same thing, they understand the same thing, they understand that that is never a it's never an optimal thing.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: But you know, with the new generation kingdom of Saudi Arabia, the younger princes, they all understand that Israel is not going away.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: They have less of a, you know, antagonistic attitude towards the Jewish people, and, and so I think it's more negotiable.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: But until you get one of them to step in and kind of manage their Arab brothers, it's just not going to happen.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to see the the pro Hamas comments.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: They, it's just not going to happen.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to see the pro-Hamas comments.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: It's like they must have like a hashtag alert for any time someone on the internet mentions Gaza or Hamas or anything to do with that region, and they go buck wild in the comment sections.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: I've blocked quite a few people and then, of course, I antagonized by just making a post saying see what happens when you say this word.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and now you get.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: You know if you form a protest and you're a student on a visa, you get deported.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Deported, you're out.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we could have thrown that one in here, but we have so many topics, but that is right.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, that whole thing.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Just just just watching the absolute lunacy, hypocrisy, insanity from the left, like that.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: They're putting this guy up as this is your poster child right now, like once again you are picking just the worst of the worst to hit your wagon to right.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Bad candidate.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh my goodness.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that could be probably a whole topic of its own.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Actually, you know what?
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: I know we were going to hit it kind of last.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: But let's talk about a bad candidate.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, hey, I like that, let's do it.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Listen.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: So Gavin Newsom for those of you that have or have not been paying attention, gavin Newsom, he is putting himself out there.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: He has not declared a 2028 candidacy, but if you haven't seen it, he started a podcast.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: He's already had a couple of very interesting guests.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: One of the first ones being Charlie Kirk Of all people who I adore.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Well, I do too.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: I think he's great.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: I love watching him on college campuses.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: It's one of the most entertaining things there is, but you know he also had Tim Walsh on yes.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Just the other day, and you know Walsh continue to show how really dumb he is and some of the things that he said.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: But but you know, charlie Kirk, at the end of that he caught a lot of flack because From your girl Megan Kelly too.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, from Megan.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: You're right, megan Kelly.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Why give Newsom a platform?
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Why give him the attention?
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Why have a discussion with him?
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: And Charlie Kirk's a smart guy, and you know and he said, listen, that's what this is all about.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: We have to have these discussions.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: And he came out of that discussion and said that his impression of Gavin Newsom was that no one wants to be president more than Gavin.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Newsom.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: I agree with that statement because and you, you know, and I think the thing you cannot no one should be underestimating gavin newsom at all.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: This was wildly, brilliantly strategic to not only create this podcast, but he had this planned all along, from the moment the conception of the podcast came up.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: He sat down with whoever he sits down with and said we're going to get the top conservative voices on our show and I'm going to show what a good, relatable guy I am, because he's he's looking at the optics of everything.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Well, how bad did the Democrats tank and why Did all the research on that?
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: It's pretty obvious.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: You shouldn't need to research.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Much Knows what his national approval ratings look like.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: He's got decent approval, not horrible approval ratings in California, which blows my mind to no end, but that's besides the point.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: So he knows he's not presenting well, so he's strategizing.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Well, how could I appeal to more people?
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, I know, let me get some of their people over.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: So I agree with Charlie and I agree probably more with Megan, because you're giving this guy an opportunity to appear likable.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I don't think he appeared likable.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, it's not possible.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: But there are people that are going to say, oh well, he's got some.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Oh well, he's got some middle of the road views.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: You know he made a strategic and again I use the word strategic over and over again because I think everything he does is 100% calculated right.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: So he, he did make a middle of the road move about a very, very controversial topic which is girls in sports, and in the interview with Charlie Kirk he said it is, you know, horribly unfair.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: He said that and so and interesting to see how that happened or how what happened after that is that James Garville came out and you know I always pay attention to him because he always keeps pretty good tabs on things he came out and said that you're going to start to see more Democrats move to the middle of the road and move away from the extreme position about, you know, boys and girls sports and go with the Gavin Newsom.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: You know that's terrible and you notice he didn't commit to anything to changing anything.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: All he said was you're right, it's terribly unfair, but you're going to start to see more of that Now.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk also said he is incredibly charming in person.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: I always thought I think the best word for Newsome is smarmy.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: Smarmy is the perfect word he is, he's, you know he's slick back hair and like, oh, he's just, but he's a used car salesman kind of feel.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: I honestly compare him.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: I think he's the liberal version of Vivek.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of.
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of parallels there.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a good smile and the laugh and the.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: You know that, the hair and the.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: You know all that um.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: But he um go back to you know, a year ago he took that trip to mexico with the clintons yes, and we talked about this on the show is that you know they he was being considered for a run either as the VP, like they were going to kick Kamala off the ticket.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: That was.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: They were talking about that.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: They're talking about replacing Joe and that Newsom was one of the top candidates and I swear and I you know, I wrote a blog about this today a bunch of 2028 presidential predictions but or election predictions, but I think that they and I said this when it happened.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: I think that Clintons took him to Mexico and said wait.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Wait till 2028.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Not only will you be able to run, but you're going to get the candidacy for the democratic party.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Um, and I think that all of this, like has the podcast, all of this has been a resultant, is resultant, of that meeting yes um, so it's all been.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: The strategy from the get-go is to get him to the middle of the road.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Like you said, more likable have him, you know, give him the opportunity to relate, for people to get to know him.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Um, and I would tell you that his, his numbers, his, his numbers, his approval rating numbers in California are kind of cooked.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: The numbers that you need to look at is the shrinking population.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: And that's the counter to just about everything is.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: California is getting smaller, like people.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: There are like U-Haul is the best, illinois is the same way, but U-Haul is the best kind of measuring stick is that there are more U-Hauls coming the best.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Illinois is the same way, but U-Haul is the best measuring stick is that there are more U-Hauls coming out than there are going in, and so people are leaving California at a much higher rate than they're coming in, and that's a direct result of Newsom.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I hope, as this moves along, as he lining himself up for this nomination, I I will be part of the people who will continuously drill home how horrible he is, and and.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: I and I've got the bullet points and I'm like ready for him.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: You know I can go down them right now.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: I'll go down a few of them at least.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Let's see.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: So Medicaid, his Medicaid program, which they call Medi-Cal, right Significant budget deficits leading to substantial borrowing.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Let's see, and part of the main reason for that is, besides mismanagement in multiple ways, ways they had to cover illegal immigrants, causing a 3.44 billion shortfall under Gavin Newsom's watch.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Let's see what else.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Between 2018 and 21, the state spent 9.6 billion on homelessness initiatives, yet their homeless population continued to grow.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Education statewide test revealed that approximately two thirds of California students failed to meet math standards and over half over half of the students failed to meet the English standards.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's, it's crazy, and probably because most of them are are illegal children of illegal immigrants, probably, and and they're not, you know, it's just not designed for that.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Let's see.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Of course, crime rates are crazy, high housing crisis, environmental disaster management Hello, we can talk.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, geez, that's probably the most fresh in everyone's mind, right?
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: The wildfires and the mismanagement of all of that, the forest and water resources, everything, and I mean and this list goes on and on.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: We're going all the way back to the COVID-19 pandemic.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: All of that, the 11.4 billion in unemployment benefits to ineligible claimants.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: So I mean they're just throwing.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: They're just like.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: They've got this, you know super industrial size fan and they're just throwing bags of money in front of it and let it blow around.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: I mean that's basically the management style.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: I read this one today, my favorite one in all of this.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: You know how bad is Newsom kind of thing.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: They pay more for gas than every state in the union, including Hawaii, and they're ranked 47th in road quality.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: So it's not because of the price of, you know, gas, it's not because of the price of oil.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: It's because of the taxes.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: That's why the price per gallon is so high in California is because of the state, local tax, city tax, all the taxes and taxes and taxes that are piled on there.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: They pay more than anybody else.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know what you're paying.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: The national average is the lowest it's been since in the last four years.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: It's down around three bucks or pretty close to three bucks.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Three and a quarter.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: They're paying still like $460, I think, in California, and they're ranked 47th in road quality.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: So, I mean mismanagement, you said it.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: They're just money.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: They're using it to light forest fires, I don't know, but they're using it for kindling.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Light forest fires.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know but they're using it for kindling.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: You know, if anybody wants to look at Gavin Newsom, they should be looking at him as a cautionary tale in what he's done to his state, because it's what he'll do to this country.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: So I don't care how many conservative pundits he has on and how likable he appears, he's going to start getting more casual too.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: He's going to, you know, unbutton more.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Look, a little more rugged looking, because they're doing all of the things that you do when you're, you know, vying for a run at the presidency, and it's all going to be calculated, orchestrated, strategized and maneuvered to appeal to as many people as possible.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: And so he's going to be talking you know not that he doesn't already and that they all most don't already.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: He's going to be talking out of both sides of his mouth.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: He's going to be telling this group what they want to hear, and he's going to tell this group what they want to hear, and he is going to do the same damn thing he's done to California, to this country.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: So don't get swayed.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: And I think we're all too smart to do that.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: But you know there's, there are obviously people who are in the middle, who have remained in the middle and are willing to go either way to whoever appeals to them.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: That's who he's aiming for, you know he's going to be the Dem, he's going to be the candidate though.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: Mark Yep, he's the and and I'm going to, I'm going to go way out on a limb and I'm going to tell you Newsome Whitmer, 2028.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Ooh, wow, wow, yep, okay, okay, I could see it, I can see that it can't have two, can't, can't have two white guys on there.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: No, definitely not it's Biden-Harris all over again.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: It's two poor candidates, underqualified career politician types.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: It's the exact same ticket, just two different names.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: But you heard it here first.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Newsom-Whitmer 2028.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: That's what's going to happen.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and I think you know I mean I don't know if they're just smoke screens, you know I I'm sure you've heard it too but you know I hear them throw out, uh, kamala Harris and AOC, uh that Jasmine Crockett they even threw her name out there.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: I'm like, are you like now?
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: You're just now, you're just trying.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: You're just trying to rile people up and get them angry so they're not paying too much attention to what's going on over there.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, part of what I talked about in that blog.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: You know you guys can go read it my website but it's.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: You're going to see a transition in the Dems.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: So the old guard Schumer Pelosi, all of them, are going to be gone.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: A transition in the Dems.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: So the old guard Schumer Pelosi, all of them, are going to be gone.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: You are going to start to see AOC Crockett.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: That younger group is going to take more of a leadership role, which is not going to be a good thing.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: They're going to become more extreme.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: They're going to become more polarizing, but Newsom is going to get the candidacy by default.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: He's the only viable candidate they have.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: It's still not going to bode well for them, but that's my guess at this point.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: And the thing and we've talked about this at various times about the Democrats and even though they appear to be and by for all intents and purposes they are truly imploding.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: They're having a massive identity crisis.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: They are truly a mess.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: But I, I personally and I know you wouldn't either I will never underestimate them, because they have always played the long game, and that's what they're doing right now.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: They're taking their hits and they are strategizing there's that word again they are strategizing their next big move, what they're going to do.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: So, just because they're a mess right now, don't discount them, don't, don't undermine them, because they're scary people.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: They just are.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the GOP is doing the same thing, though I think Trump vans for four.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: I think you're going to see Vance Rubio eight, you know for the next two, like that, and then, and then Rubio, who will only be 64, 12 years from now, will be the next presidential candidate.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: There's, I think, a long-term trajectory strategy on the GOP side too, and I think they're breeding it now, which I think is good, so we'll see how it plays out.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: I know that's a long way out, but Gavin Newsom's taking steps, so we all got to pay attention.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, do not take your eyes off that smarmy, smarmy man.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Speaking of smarmy, we can move right into this.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Smarmy is actually even too nice of a word Sleazy, trashy, garbage, filthy 31 total agents on two protective details.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: That's what they were getting.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Hunter had 18.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: You know his sister had 13.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: And you know they sister ex-wife whatever she is, I don't even know, it's so inbred I don't even pay attention.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: But the Biden kids who had Secret Service protection have lost it.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: President.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Trump has revoked it and you know they were, just as an example, traveling to South Africa.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: Yes, we have said right now, they're there right now, aren't they?
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, south Africa anymore.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Right, there is some horrific, you know crap in the and people will talk about apartheid.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: What you've got is reverse apartheid going on.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: Right now, you have white farmers being murdered by the dozens you know across South Africa, and that's where the Biden kids decided to go on vacation.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Two protective details 31 total agents at a minimum, not to mention the transportation and everything else that goes along with it.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: Not like they're flying commercial, no?
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: So you know all the support structure that goes with that all gone.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: President Trump said no more and he shut it off.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Good, yeah, and of course you know the left is screaming and crying.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: They think that's terrible.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: You're.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Of course you know the left is screaming and crying.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: They think that's terrible.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: You're going to.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: You know they're unsafe.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: It's terrible.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: You're going to leave them unprotected.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Nobody cares enough about them.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: They're not under the threat of assassination or murder.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Nobody cares, like this has never been a credible issue for them at all.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: So it's just a flat no.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Listen by the way, hire your own security, exactly Like if you feel scared.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: If I felt scared for my life, not only do I have to protect myself, if I felt that scared, I would have to hire out of my pocket.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Nobody's going to pay that for me.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I don't have any sympathy there whatsoever.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: It should be based on security needs period, not political titles right.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, political kids, presidential kids, you know, have gotten secret service protection for various reasons, mostly to protect them from kidnapping, which would allow people to, you know, influence a president or former president, right, right, joe Biden's, that man's on it that he holds nothing like you couldn't get anything out of him if you wanted to National secrets security, whatever One.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: He doesn't remember anything to, he's, he's not long for this world, so you know.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, they have plenty of money.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Yes, Know that so you know, and oh, by the way, they have plenty of money.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, we know that.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: So Plenty of money.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, pulling Secret Service protection for the Biden kids was the right thing to do.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Now, you know people would ask who else, who else has it?
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: Why do they have it?
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: I'm willing to bet that the Obama kids have it Right and they should.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: I think that Chelsea Clinton has Secret Service protection to an extent, even if it's a one or two, as as she should.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: You know, obviously, that the Trump kids in some form or fashion I don't think all the Trump kids do I think they pay out of pocket for security for the most part.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: But I know some of the youngins you know got some coverage, as they should.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: He's a sitting president, right, but like the Biden kids, no, no way.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: I don't even think the Bush girls have it anymore.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: Like dad's been out of office for too long.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: And you know I said Chelsea Clinton, it's not because of Bill, it is because of Hillary at this point, like she is more, you know, her being the sex state during the Obama administration much more relevant than her husband, yeah, as far as national security goes.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: So you know, the Bush girls are probably irrelevant at this point.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: You know, george, you know, doesn't really have anything.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: He doesn't have anything to carry, doesn't really have anything.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: He doesn't have everything to carry, so, but yeah, this was a waste of taxpayer dollars protecting Hunter and, and you know, the, the Biden kids, so I'm glad he pulled it.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: I know, like you said, there's people that are, you know, griping and complaining and I really, really don't care.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: I don't care.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Like I don't even, I don't even care enough to debate it with them, like if they came, came, if they were.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Like, don't you think it's terrible that?
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: No?
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: no, no.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: I mean be mad if you want.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: You could be mad, but it's not even don't care at all.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, my goodness.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: So here's something that, um, as soon as I saw, I thought of you.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: This didn't turn out to be as exciting as I thought it was going to be for you.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Is that the case, clay?
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: Well, so two things.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: One, I was really really afraid this was going to turn in the Epstein Files, part 2.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: I really, when the president said that and he's like, oh, it's all coming out tomorrow, I was like no, and they did it, they dropped it.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: And they dropped 80,000 pages and as far as I know, as far as I understand, it is all unredacted.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: So all of the information is in there.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: Now we don't know what's not in there, right, that's the thing.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: But as far as anybody can tell right now it's all there.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: It's 80,000 pages, it's 6,000 documents or whatever it is, and it's out there.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: It's going to take people a while to dig through it and that's what's going on now.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, not just read through it but also find holes and gaps and seams and inconsistencies and essentially what you're going to have to do is a whole nother investigation of the investigation to really understand.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: There are a couple of interesting tidbits in there already of the CIA post-World War II was really involved in that whole world of really deep, dark, evil ops in the anti-Soviet, anti-russia post-World War II era.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: He ran from Washington DC the day after the assassination Ran, ran to friends in New Jersey state and six months later was found dead of suicide bullet behind the ear, assassination style, okay.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: And he and he had a ton of connections within the CIA, within the world, that dark, deep, dark world.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: So there's a memo in there about Underhill and about him saying that this was a CIA operation or the CIA had involvement or something to that effect.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: That is one of the number one things that's come out.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: Which has been suspected.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's what people have been flat out saying for years, so not a huge surprise.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: On that.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: What else because it really doesn't have to do with the initial investigation is.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: There's a document in there from 1994 that is a quote from jfk jr that he wrote in a memo or wrote in a letter to to senator joe biden, saying I know you're a traitor to the united states.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: So the whoa.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the first time I saw that document I'm like this is ai, it's garbage, it's bullshit.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: Why would it even be in here?
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: And and I and I can't explain the why is it in the file?
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: That I don't know, but I've seen it in enough places now in reliable sources that it has been vetted as part of what was released.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: But that was five years before he died in that very weird plane.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: You know flying incident, you know JFK Jr, but he made an accusation against Senator Joe Biden that he was a traitor to the United States.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: So that has gained a ton of attention in the midst of all this, but it's going to take folks a while.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: It's a lot of documentation, it's a lot of information.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: There is no hard evidence anymore.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: That's the other thing that people need to understand.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: The magic bullet is gone, kennedy is.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: The body's gone, like the car is gone, it's all gone, so all you're going to be able to look at is documents, documentation and those kinds of things.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: There was one other piece in there that is a little interesting is that supposedly Jack Ruby met with Oswald within two weeks before the assassination.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: I did see that one, I did see that.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, interesting.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Again, people, it's puzzle pieces.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah 80,000 pages.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you know if anyone were to and I'm sure people are doing this, and don't come from me, guys that I'm bringing AI into this in a positive way, because everybody gets mad anytime you want to use AI for something.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: But it's a great resource, a great tool for somebody to put that information in there and have it do the work for you.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it can handle a document of that size.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: You'd probably have to like piecemeal it, and I'm sure people are doing exactly that.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: You know telling it what to look for and and how to kind of just take out that information and bullet point it or something and get all the relevant stuff out of it.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: So you know, hopefully I'm actually saying hopefully somebody is doing that and we can get it a little bit faster, because it is fascinating to say the least, exactly the same thing.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: I was like this is what we want AI to do Let it read it, download it, analyze it, put it all together and then spit out the answer that says this is the most likely based on the documents that are put in there.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: I thought exactly the same thing.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: This is the perfect application, in my opinion, of AI.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: I really do agree.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: It truly is.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's certainly a lot of really good, useful applications for it.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: It's just like everything else in this life, people ruin everything.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: They just do, um, you know it's something going.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Going back to that, of course.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Um, I saw, and I don't even know why this came up in my, my Tik TOK feed, uh, but it did, and I thought of you again.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: Anything that comes to JFK, I think of you because I know that's a strong interest of yours.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: But, and you'll probably know the guy's name, the the secret service agent who jumped onto the car.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: I watched yeah, I watched an old interview with him.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: If I'm thinking of the right guy, I think he is the guy that jumped onto the car.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Um, and it was.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: I was crying within seconds of watching him because he was so, and you've probably seen the interview.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Um, I'll put it in here too for you guys.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: I'll find it and put it in.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Um, it is so heartbreaking.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: That man is was so traumatized by what he viewed as his failure, his failing to protect him.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: It was gut-wrenching.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: It was probably one of the only things that I've seen that didn't feel so conspiracy theory, this that it was just a man in absolute turmoil.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: It's so sad.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Of course, I'm going to make you all watch it and get sad with me, but, yeah, have you seen that?
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: I have, I, I've seen that and I, I know, like you know, there was a movie there was a Clint Eastwood movie, uh, years ago, where he was a an elderly secret service agent aging Um and and he was essentially that guy but was still in the Secret Service and eventually got back on the presidential detail and some other things.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: It was actually a good movie.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: I think it was called In the Line of Fire.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: Go back and take a look at it.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: But he was that guy and he did have that raging guilt that he had screwed up and the president had died on his watch and so, yes, there that the story of that agent and I his name escapes me at the moment, but I know who you're talking about.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: It was one of the guys riding on the back of the car and he was the one who dove on the trunk and he was the one who you know.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: But he did, he was riddled with guilt for the rest of his life.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: You know, I I can't even imagine you know, shouldering that Um and I, I think that no amount of therapy, I think that nothing is rectifying that and gave that man any you know kind of you know respite before he passed away.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: I think he carried that guilt till the day he died, which is awful, but but I mean it's.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: He was literally the guy the closest, the whole thing.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: So yeah, for sure, yeah.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: All right, guys, and now that I just made everybody feel so sad, we're going to bring it back around.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: We're ending on such an amazing moment.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: We have the moments right here.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: Let's watch it together.
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: They're on your screen continuing to monitor progress of the Dragon spacecraft and we're going to stand by for Splashdown, located in the Gulf of America, off the coast of Tallahassee, Florida, and splashdown crew nine back on earth.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Wow, that is so cool, so cool, so uh.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: To state the obvious, I'm sure everybody knows these are the two astronauts uh, butch Winters I scrolled down to the wrong part on my here but uh, butch and Sonny and I'm sorry I'm not grabbing their last names here.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: I think it's Williams.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: Yes, sonny Williams and Butch.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: Where's his name, wilmore?
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: There we go.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: They were stranded by the Biden administration in space for nine months.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: I think their mission was probably like maybe a month long, maybe a few weeks long.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: I don't even think it was that long, not even that long Okay.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: Shorter than that, yeah.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Really Okay, so we're going with nine months.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Then, so nine months, they were stranded.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Elon Musk offered the Biden administration to go and get them.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: He said I can do it, I can want me to do it, I I'm happy to.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: And they said nah, we're good.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Um, so that was that.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: So they were stranded there for an unbelievable length of time and Elon got the go ahead.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: His SpaceX dragon went right up there, snatched him up, brought him home and I think they have, like, probably a really long recovery right After this, because there's so much that goes on to your, with your body, like I was reading little bits of this and I was actually so horrified for them on their behalf.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: But, um, but I'm sure anything is better than still being stranded up there indefinitely, just to be able to be home and with your family and and touch grass.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: To touch grass, to feel air, oh all the things.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: I just I cried watching.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: What a surprise.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: I cried.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I cried watching that too.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: So great.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: Did you see the dolphins?
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: The dolphins were great, so cool, Just a nice little touch, you know.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: And, and of course you know so, she actually set a record most hours on spacewalk by a female astronaut ever, and really only because she was up there for so long.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: So she spent, I think it's, 62 and a half hours outside the spacecraft, outside the space station, which is the most by any female, which is awesome, Um, but you know, of course, in the immediacy after they, you know, splash down, um, you know a lot of a lot of hate.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of conspiracy theorists, you know she came out and before they put her in front of a camera and and they did it with him too they cleaned her up.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, they of course.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: They brushed out her hair.
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: They gave her a little bit of darker makeup.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: You know, listen, when you live under conditions like that, you're going to lose a lot of color, you're going to look very gaunt because the food is not filling, it's nutritious but not pulling right.
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: So they gave him a little bit of makeup touch up before they put him in front of a camera and people are like it's total bogus, like she's been in space for nine months.
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: Why does she have a tan?
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: And her hair is yes, yes, they did.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: It's called makeup.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: It's called like can you give the woman like give her a break.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Can she look decent?
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: Like do you want her still?
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: What do you want her to do?
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: Come out on the interview with their hair still standing straight up and are they like stop being mean, geez, yes.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: And then there's the, and then there's the other ones.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: You know I I've had it and again I'm taking from you.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: I haven't, but I've had some detractors like well, musk got tasked in august by biden.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: First of all, he didn't get tasked, he did volunteer, um.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: And then he said he got tasked to have it done by February.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: So Trump doesn't get any credit for this.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, so first of all, again, he doesn't get tasked, he's tasked, he volunteered.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: He's a private citizen.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, they're like well, he was a month behind schedule.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: Like, okay, they were going to space Right.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: Like they were a month behind schedule, maybe, right.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, he was trying to make sure it was safe.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: Listen, it's the same.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: These are the same people who you know.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: President Biden blamed President Trump for four years for everything that went wrong.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: He took credit for four years for everything that went right Right, even the things that were, you know, done by President Trump.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: That carried over into the Biden administration.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: Obama blamed Bush for eight years Right, and took credit for you know what I mean.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: And listen, bush blamed Clinton for a lot of crap for eight years.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: This is, this is the way that these things work.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: So if you want to say President Trump doesn't get any credit for this, fine, okay, I think you're wrong.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: I think you're wrong.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: I think you know.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: He's the guy that's in the chair right now.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: He made the decision to go, he gave Elon the thumbs up, right, and so he gets the credit.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: That's what happens when you're, when you're the guy in charge, and it happens under your watch, you get the credit period.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: Right, whether you like it or not.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: So, um, but Elon Musk is the hero in this.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: You know he did a real life space rescue and people just want to hate, um, and I feel sorry for everybody who does, because you know you're just leading a miserable life, you really really are.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you are a sad sack of human flesh, Just absolutely pathetic and sad, and I've seen the meme floating around.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: I probably already shared it as well that you know.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: Just basically saying you know you got people out here torching and blowing up and vandalizing Tesla's.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: Meanwhile Elon Musk is saving people in space.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: Loser morons, you.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: I just added that last part and that wasn't in the meeting.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: I'm just adding that in just a little personal interjection there.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you, absolute losers Like this guy is just sending rocket ships into space and rescuing stranded astronauts and you're kicking cars and keying them and blowing them up.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: Losers, Absolute losers.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: Can't do it.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: I posted the other day and I said that anybody right now who is vandalizing Tesla vehicle, Tesla charging station, Tesla dealerships, it should be charged with domestic terrorism.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, Pam Bondi agrees with me.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, she does, you know and I've had people.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: Oh well, you know, please, please, define terrorism.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: Ok, well, I've been doing that for the last like I don.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: You know, please, please define terrorism.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, I've been doing that for the last like I don't know 20 years of my life.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no problem, you know, I had people call it silly.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: I had people call it irrational.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: I had people, but you know that that the violence and that and the hate and the vitriol and everything that is coming out of this is reflexive, it's irrational, but that's where people are at right now and it's really.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: We're in a sad state of affairs right now.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, we really are.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: It's so sad and all I want to see from that is very, very swift action and very, very severe, the most severe penalties that can be enforced by law and by the courts on these people.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: And if it's a slap on the wrist, you better go change that law right now and make it domestic terrorism, because it is, it absolutely is, particularly, you know, maybe not the king, the car, I mean I'm going with it.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, make it that.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: But the, the blowing up of, of, you know, dealerships and whatnot, yeah, that's domestic terrorism and a story you know, yep.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: I agree that the astronauts are home and and we trying to end it on a happy note and the astronauts are home and good for them to be back on terra firma.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: It's always a great occasion for that and this one, I think, was extra special.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: So we're just going to go with that one and celebrate.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, I forgot to do this top of the show.
• 1:05:03
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• 1:05:10
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• 1:05:12
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• 1:05:15
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• 1:05:25
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• 1:05:29
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