Latest / WCBH / Marcus Ashcroft on Touch Football's Big Play: NT Titles, Growth and Goals
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- 0:18I'm with Marcus Ashcroft, CEO of Touch Football Australia, who's in town for the NT titles.
- 0:23Marcus, thanks for joining us on WCBH and welcome to The Top End.
- 0:28G'day Cam, yeah, thank you for having me. I really enjoy my time up here and
- 0:31as usual, the weather's spot on, so thanks for having me.
- 0:34Yeah, you picked a good time of year to come. Is it the first time you've been
- 0:37up here in your role as CEO of Touch Football Australia?
- 0:41No, I've been here, this is my third time now. I've been in the role now for
- 0:4512 months and And I've managed to get up here three times.
- 0:48I really enjoy getting up to Darwin, Alice and the NT.
- 0:52So I'm glad I could be around for their NT state titles on the weekend.
- 0:57Yeah, that's so good. Many people would recognize your name from your achievements
- 1:03in AFL, 300 plus game player, premiership winner with the Brisbane Lions.
- 1:08Can you talk about your journey into touch football?
- 1:11Yeah, absolutely. It's one that I was really excited about at the beginning.
- 1:16So 12 months, as I said, I've been in the role.
- 1:19Was approached by the chairman, Christian Frost, over a year ago now to go through
- 1:26a process to be part of the team.
- 1:29And the more and more I was involved in the process, the more I was attracted
- 1:33to it with such great opportunities available to touch footy right around the country.
- 1:38A great group of people at board level, staff, volunteers, there are such just
- 1:44great communities across the whole country.
- 1:46So the more I got involved in that process, the more I wanted to be involved
- 1:51in the game. And looking back after 12 months, I couldn't be happier.
- 1:54Being a former Lions player, are you a Queenslander?
- 1:58Have you grown up playing touch footy at school lunches and in the backyard?
- 2:01Is it part of your bread and butter?
- 2:03Yeah, I have. I was raised on the Gold Coast in South Queensland and went to a, well back then,
- 2:10probably not going to show my age, but back in those days, It was only rugby
- 2:15league and rugby union, so I went through the pathway of playing league,
- 2:19played some touch at school.
- 2:21My kids went to a rugby union school and played union, played touch,
- 2:27and my wife was a representative touch player.
- 2:29So touch has been part of our life, even though AFL was the majority of it.
- 2:34But yeah, we know the game really well and really love it.
- 2:37Touch football is huge in some schools. I think it was 2016,
- 2:40I coached a team and we went away. It was at Kiwana.
- 2:44I think it was the National Championships, National Schoolboy Championships.
- 2:48And just how impressive it was, the schools that actually have touch football
- 2:52academies based at the school.
- 2:54They were amazing footballers.
- 2:57Yeah, and this is such a great game. Even as an entry sport for young kids,
- 3:01I think it's safe. Parents these days like the non-contact option.
- 3:06We're very inclusive. And 8% of it, the people that play our game are Indigenous,
- 3:10Torres Strait Islander.
- 3:12So we have a wide and broad spectrum
- 3:15of player. And that's not to mention referees, coaches, volunteers.
- 3:20Across the country, there's over 700, 800,000 that are involved in the game.
- 3:26And especially up in the Northern Territory, we just think it's a great option
- 3:29for young people to get involved in, to be active, to be healthy.
- 3:33And also for the parents to know that it's a safe environment.
- 3:36You're right. It is such an inclusive game and it really is a game for everyone.
- 3:41I know when I stopped playing league, I kept playing touch football a couple
- 3:45of nights a week. You go from your social level through to your elite level,
- 3:50representative level, men's, women's, mix, juniors, seniors, overage players.
- 3:55Really, there's a type of game for everyone in the touch football world.
- 3:59100%. And we know that the skills are really transferable.
- 4:03So if young kids want to enter, play touch, and then go off and play AFL or
- 4:09NRL, whatever it is to be, we always find that they always come back because
- 4:13we have people playing the game that are in their 60s and 70s.
- 4:17So the age demographic ranges from 6 to 70, 80 years of age.
- 4:22And it just provides those transferable skills for those that want to go and
- 4:26play different sports and also come back to it later in life.
- 4:29Let's talk the NT titles. How many teams are there? What's the shape and the
- 4:34structure of the competition?
- 4:35Yeah, so we've grown this year. We've got 22 teams involved.
- 4:39We knew out of participants, referees, coaches and volunteers.
- 4:43There's over 400 people involved, which is a great number.
- 4:46Tyson, the state manager, has done a great job with his team,
- 4:50Kieran and Michael, and putting on a great event where all those people get
- 4:55to be involved in it, but at the same time,
- 4:57we've got teams that are coming from as far and wide as Gove and Kununara in WA,
- 5:04Catherine, so it's not just Darwin-related teams, but teams from across the
- 5:10state and also interstate.
- 5:11And that's obviously a good sign for the game because if teams are coming in
- 5:15from Gove and Catherine and Kununuri, et cetera, obviously there's a local competition
- 5:20there feeding the players into those teams.
- 5:23Absolutely. And then we're all about growth. Having these events with the teams
- 5:28coming from far and wide is a great story to tell.
- 5:31And we're all about ensuring we give as many people that want to be involved
- 5:36in there, again, the chance to access these sort of events.
- 5:39So to have them coming from as far as that, it talks in volumes to how our team
- 5:45has been able to get the teams to come here and be involved and have a great experience.
- 5:50Let's talk about the strategic plan. I think it's called The Next Play.
- 5:53Like there's a number of activities taking place while you're up in Darwin,
- 5:57not just the NT titles, but coaching clinics and other things to assist the growth of the game.
- 6:02Yeah. So we went on a six to nine month journey to develop with the consultation
- 6:08of our community, a seven year strategic plan, which we review yearly.
- 6:13And we're really proud of what we put together. It's very strategic in ensuring
- 6:17that we grow the game ultimately, but it's also divided into four pillars,
- 6:22which are key in ensuring the game is nurtured.
- 6:26We showcase our talent pathways, but we also look after those that are really
- 6:31critical to being part of our game, and that's our participants,
- 6:34volunteers, coaches, and referees.
- 6:35So it's part of what we're doing this weekend, as you said.
- 6:39We've invited up Phil Guymore, who is our men's opens coach of the EMUs.
- 6:44He's come up to do some coaching training.
- 6:47Courses and other things he did one on thursday
- 6:50night will be involved friday saturday we've also
- 6:53got a community call on friday
- 6:56to invite all the local clubs and
- 6:59affiliates to come in and hear what's going on at touch football australia and
- 7:04we're all about just being available and accessible so those in the community
- 7:08can ask questions we're not here to lecture or talk to we're here to get as
- 7:12much information as we can to make sure we can improve the game so So it can
- 7:15be attractive to many more people.
- 7:18And you've spoken there about some of the things that are happening at the grassroot level.
- 7:22What about at the other end of the spectrum, the elite level,
- 7:25the international level? How's the game progressing there?
- 7:28Yeah, we had Asia-Pacific champs last week in Mudgee, where Australia retained
- 7:33the Trans-Tasman Trophy, which is a competition between Australia and New Zealand,
- 7:38obviously the two leading nations in the world.
- 7:40So Australia have retained that. But we have a duty as a nation to ensure that
- 7:44the growth of the game internationally is developing and growing.
- 7:49So we lend resources internationally for that.
- 7:51Also, from a national point of view, we had our NTLs back in March at Coffs Harbour,
- 7:56and we're looking at evolving that next year to be at the same time but more
- 8:02of an elite pathway, so inviting all the very best regions around the country to be part of that.
- 8:07And we want to get players from
- 8:10the Northern Territory area to be involved in teams at that event too.
- 8:15So we'll be working really hard on the talent pathways between now and next
- 8:18year through our state manager Tyson and his team to ensure we get some players
- 8:23from here, which we know are up to the level, a chance to expose themselves at a national level.
- 8:28Yeah, there's some pretty dominant clubs running around in the NT competition, Turf, Inferno, Crocs.
- 8:33You know, we've got some very long-term clubs based in touch football and bringing on their players.
- 8:39With the international game, is it bigger than Australia and New Zealand?
- 8:43Like, does it sort of parallel the rugby league playing countries?
- 8:47Yeah, it does. And it's really grown. Fit, the Federation of International Clutch,
- 8:51have really grown the international teams over the last year.
- 8:54We've got close to 50 that play the game, which is a great number.
- 8:59We obviously still have aspirations to make an Olympics.
- 9:032032 is probably not going to be the year for us, but we're also considering
- 9:07years beyond that to be part of it.
- 9:09So from an international standpoint, we're not giving up hope for that to happen and occur,
- 9:16but we're also ensuring that we can help grow the game by sending coaches and
- 9:21referees internationally to grow the game in Southeast Asian countries,
- 9:27the Pacific Island countries.
- 9:28As I said, we've got 50 international teams that now play at that level and
- 9:33that will continue to grow over the next few years.
- 9:36The, it'd be amazing if it did end up Brisbane 2032, but I sort of take what you said there.
- 9:41Look, I love watching touch football on television when I can pick up a game.
- 9:46Just there's such a difference between backyard footy, which a lot of people
- 9:51have grown up and then what the elite touch football looks like.
- 9:55I think it's really made for broadcast.
- 9:57Like if we could get that into the Olympics, the distance that the players can pass,
- 10:02the speed the diving the the plays the
- 10:05fitness level of it we're talking elite athletes here
- 10:08aren't we oh no doubt and as we
- 10:12said we spoke about the transferable skills but you have to be quick and you
- 10:15have to be agile and you have to have a really good endurance base we if we
- 10:18look at AFL and NRL players playing at the professional level the Bronco test
- 10:24which everyone's familiar with that's that's that happens at I fell and NRL level we got players.
- 10:29That in the top echelon in an elite sport like NRL and NFL. So we know our athletes
- 10:35are as good as any in professional spaces.
- 10:37And you're right, watching it on TV or on broadcast, it really is a great spectacle.
- 10:42And we're really happy that on Sunday when the finals happening from 2.30pm,
- 10:48it's going to be broadcast live on Bar TV.
- 10:50So a great opportunity for anyone that's not going to be at the venue to be
- 10:54able to jump onto Bar TV and watch the finals on the last day on Sunday.
- 11:00Yeah, how good is that? Well, let's run through the details because it does
- 11:03start this evening, doesn't it? First game to tap off at 5.20.
- 11:075.20, yeah, probably 10 o'clock tonight, which is a good start.
- 11:11We've got a full day of games tomorrow starting in the early afternoon.
- 11:16And we've got under-14s, under-18s, men's and women's opens,
- 11:20and also seniors mix, which is those aged between 30 and 50.
- 11:25So 22 teams, a lot of touch over
- 11:27the first two days which are six round games
- 11:31and then all the games on sunday which are broadcast live on
- 11:33bar tv will all be finals games so some great touch
- 11:36footy to come and watch live and if not watch it on bar tv
- 11:39yeah fantastic we've been talking with marcus ashcroft ceo of touch football
- 11:44australia here in the territory for the nt titles so get on down to trl stadium
- 11:50friday saturday and sunday for the nt titles or pick it up on the live stream
- 11:55marcus thanks so much for joining us on WTBH.
- 11:57Thank you, Cam. Thanks for having me, Mark.