Latest / NFL Game Previews / Brandon Graham on Contract Extension, Iconic Tom Brady Strip-Sack, and the Big Chip on His Shoulder
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- 0:04Speaker 1: Appreciate y'all for tapping it off the edge with me
- 0:06Speaker 1: your host camp Jordan. I'm sitting here just truly blessed
- 0:10Speaker 1: to sit next to a Philadelphia legend, an Eagles legend,
- 0:13Speaker 1: if you will.
- 0:13Speaker 2: You know, he's technically a Michigan legend.
- 0:15Speaker 1: Alum go Blue, my and my guy beg Brandon Graham.
- 0:21Speaker 1: Draft class was year before me, twenty ten. Man's heading
- 0:24Speaker 1: the year fifteen. I don't even know, like the beginnings
- 0:27Speaker 1: of my wildest dreams this year fifteen.
- 0:29Speaker 2: I just told you this. I'm like, man, you're headed there.
- 0:31Speaker 1: You know, congratulations on just signing that that one year
- 0:34Speaker 1: extendo with with with Philadelphia Eagles. Uh, you know, we
- 0:37Speaker 1: met just to preface all of it. We met two
- 0:40Speaker 1: thousand and eleven.
- 0:42Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was we was out at the fight.
- 0:46Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, shoot, oh no, I am yeah, no, no,
- 0:50Speaker 1: it was it was.
- 0:50Speaker 2: It was. It was.
- 0:52Speaker 1: It was your big blue guy from from Pittsburgh Steelers.
- 0:55Speaker 1: Uh fot foot or no, no, Lamar Willie Lamar wid
- 1:00Speaker 1: big yeah, big Woodley. He had had a camp out
- 1:02Speaker 1: and sagging off, big sag nasty Michigan met you out
- 1:08Speaker 1: there and then you know, just just learned of your greatness. Man,
- 1:11Speaker 1: because fifteen years in now your Super Bowl champ with
- 1:13Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, been to another Super Bowl.
- 1:16Speaker 2: How does it feel going into year fifteen?
- 1:19Speaker 3: You know what going into year fifteen, especially how we've
- 1:21Speaker 3: been practicing all that stuff, it's not as bad because
- 1:24Speaker 3: I've been trying to take care of myself. But you know,
- 1:27Speaker 3: of course, injuries happened for me a year thirteen toward
- 1:31Speaker 3: my achilles, came back off, rehabbed all the way and
- 1:35Speaker 3: man ended up, you know, playing at a high level
- 1:38Speaker 3: when I came back. But it was just I think
- 1:40Speaker 3: it's just more of me taking care of myself, man,
- 1:42Speaker 3: taking care of my body. The way we practice, it's
- 1:44Speaker 3: not like old school days when I first came in,
- 1:46Speaker 3: because Man, I definitely would have made it to fifteen
- 1:49Speaker 3: because you had the pre pre Yeah, this PREBA before
- 1:53Speaker 3: the lockout, which means you was in double day time,
- 1:55Speaker 3: double day real double day practice in the morning.
- 2:00Speaker 2: Man, get you a little napping and then you gotta come
- 2:02Speaker 2: on back. Yeah. That's the one where you guys really
- 2:05Speaker 2: losing weight, like now you have to fight to lose
- 2:07Speaker 2: weight in camp. Yeah, and then camp's hit different. Tell
- 2:11Speaker 2: me why Jalen Hurts was the first person you called
- 2:13Speaker 2: after you signed your extension.
- 2:14Speaker 3: Oh, man, because me and Jaylen, you know, over the
- 2:16Speaker 3: years uh that he's been here, we've just been building.
- 2:19Speaker 2: Uh.
- 2:19Speaker 3: We actually stay around the corner from each other and nine.
- 2:21Speaker 3: So it's been it's been cool. Just on how that
- 2:23Speaker 3: relationship evolved. I feel like it's way more than you know,
- 2:27Speaker 3: just football with us.
- 2:28Speaker 2: Uh.
- 2:29Speaker 3: And that's what I try to make it, man, because
- 2:31Speaker 3: sometimes you know how it is. It's like it could
- 2:32Speaker 3: be a work relationship with a lot of people, and
- 2:35Speaker 3: you know when they leave and go home and doing
- 2:37Speaker 3: what they do.
- 2:38Speaker 2: I know that.
- 2:39Speaker 3: For me, I try to keep in contact, try to
- 2:41Speaker 3: check on people, especially if I know they ain't playing
- 2:43Speaker 3: no more, trying to get insight on you know what
- 2:46Speaker 3: you what, some some of those feelings you're going through. Uh,
- 2:49Speaker 3: just so that I can be as prepared as I
- 2:51Speaker 3: can be when that time comes. But a lot of
- 2:53Speaker 3: guys say they just need that purpose for after. And
- 2:56Speaker 3: so that's why I always tried to make sure I
- 2:58Speaker 3: did things like the Brew camp and uh, you know
- 3:01Speaker 3: business combine with Caleb Thornhill, we just did that. I
- 3:06Speaker 3: do a lot of just off off season stuff. You know,
- 3:08Speaker 3: while I got the shield on, when I could get
- 3:10Speaker 3: into these rooms.
- 3:11Speaker 2: The business boot camp. Yeah yeah, you know a business man.
- 3:15Speaker 2: I'm a business man.
- 3:17Speaker 3: And you're trying to trying to be all all Jackson,
- 3:19Speaker 3: I mean Jackson all trade.
- 3:21Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I gotta dude it. Look, gotta do that.
- 3:23Speaker 1: Stick your hand into the hat. See what you pull.
- 3:25Speaker 1: See if you like it, if I put it back,
- 3:27Speaker 1: because you know, while we're playing NFL, NFL gonna use
- 3:29Speaker 1: the hell out of us. So let's figure out what
- 3:31Speaker 1: we can get from them to one hundred percent. Man,
- 3:34Speaker 1: why is it so important for you to commit to
- 3:36Speaker 1: play your entire career with Philadelphia Eagles.
- 3:39Speaker 3: Well, it just became that once I won the Super
- 3:42Speaker 3: Bowl the way we wanted, you know, uh, with the strip,
- 3:45Speaker 3: and it just it just boosted me even more.
- 3:48Speaker 2: And then I started.
- 3:49Speaker 3: Of course, you got to play at a at a
- 3:51Speaker 3: high level where they still believe in you. And I
- 3:53Speaker 3: know for me, it was more about just serving the
- 3:55Speaker 3: guys too, because that's why I feel like I'm still
- 3:57Speaker 3: here because we lost Kelsey, we lost Fletcher Cocks, and
- 4:02Speaker 3: I know that they just don't want to lose everybody,
- 4:05Speaker 3: you know, just everybody just you know, how you gotta
- 4:07Speaker 3: get go to rehab and you're trying to wing off
- 4:10Speaker 3: certain people being you know, it's like the same thing.
- 4:13Speaker 3: It's like he don't they ain't want to just cold
- 4:15Speaker 3: turkey drop everybody. And of course if I didn't play
- 4:17Speaker 3: good last year, I wouldn't have probably been with a
- 4:20Speaker 3: coach just being real like, this is a production league,
- 4:22Speaker 3: and so how we talked and just serving the guys
- 4:26Speaker 3: man trying to help them get to the next level
- 4:28Speaker 3: on just working hard, taking practice series.
- 4:31Speaker 2: You know how it is. You gotta you call it
- 4:33Speaker 2: by the first name, mean Howie. You know what said
- 4:36Speaker 2: that it up.
- 4:37Speaker 1: Not a lot of you know, not a lot of
- 4:39Speaker 1: lot of not a lot of people able to just
- 4:40Speaker 1: go up top and be like, hey, this is on
- 4:42Speaker 1: my plate, this was on your plate.
- 4:44Speaker 2: Let's keep it a buck because this league, like you said,
- 4:46Speaker 2: is a business.
- 4:47Speaker 1: Business, you know, and if you hadn't they were a
- 4:49Speaker 1: production They're gonna tell you a hundred reasons why you
- 4:52Speaker 1: can't make the money that you want to make or
- 4:54Speaker 1: whatever it is, or they gonna try to incentivize your
- 4:56Speaker 1: contract for whatever it is.
- 4:57Speaker 2: But you can go up and talk and you talk Hey,
- 5:00Speaker 2: this is how long.
- 5:00Speaker 3: I want to play. Yep, this is what I want
- 5:02Speaker 3: to do. What you got, that's it and that's what
- 5:05Speaker 3: it was. And that's what I can respect because he
- 5:07Speaker 3: want to keep all his draft picks. Uh, you know
- 5:09Speaker 3: if that if he can, And so what I tell
- 5:12Speaker 3: young boys now, it's like, man, make it work because
- 5:15Speaker 3: or if they close, make it work with the team
- 5:17Speaker 3: that drafts you, because you be the first to go
- 5:18Speaker 3: when you get that big contract elsewhere, no doubt what
- 5:21Speaker 3: I'm saying.
- 5:21Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie.
- 5:22Speaker 1: But boys, boys leave and I'm like, hey, bro, sometimes
- 5:25Speaker 1: the grass isn't always greener. Just because they dangle that
- 5:28Speaker 1: t bone in front of you, you may not get
- 5:30Speaker 1: to the real part. You know what I'm saying. You
- 5:31Speaker 1: may not see that they're gonna they're gonna throw that
- 5:34Speaker 1: big that big contract at you. But how much of
- 5:36Speaker 1: it are you gonna see? When you get drafted. They
- 5:39Speaker 1: expect you to see it all and they're gonna help me.
- 5:42Speaker 1: Sometimes the guys fall, you know, the production is what
- 5:45Speaker 1: it is, and yet their team still once wan's well
- 5:48Speaker 1: for them.
- 5:48Speaker 2: Yeah. So you know that's the thing.
- 5:50Speaker 3: Like that's where I try to, you know, talk to
- 5:53Speaker 3: some of them. I know you trying to get to
- 5:55Speaker 3: the bag. But like you say, if you go on
- 5:56Speaker 3: in the forty nine ers, it's like, man, you know
- 5:58Speaker 3: how much tax out there. You ain't gonna see all that.
- 6:01Speaker 3: That's a big number. That's just gonna help them, you
- 6:03Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
- 6:03Speaker 2: At the end of the day.
- 6:05Speaker 3: I mean, you're gonna hopefully you save all your money
- 6:07Speaker 3: because it's life changing for sure. But you got to
- 6:09Speaker 3: know that you're paying taxes in all these different states,
- 6:12Speaker 3: and I want eight of them at least be in
- 6:14Speaker 3: you know, a great state like Tennessee. You got Florida,
- 6:18Speaker 3: I mean Texas, Philly, Texas, you know, stuff like that.
- 6:21Speaker 3: But I know, for me, I'm glad that I did,
- 6:25Speaker 3: you know, stick it out to try to work it
- 6:26Speaker 3: out with the team, especially after I won that Super Bowl,
- 6:30Speaker 3: because it was a moment before we even got there
- 6:33Speaker 3: where I want to make an emotional decision and better
- 6:35Speaker 3: on myself because of how how my career was going
- 6:38Speaker 3: with them. You know, you feel like you're being played
- 6:40Speaker 3: with a little bit. But you know it's just like
- 6:44Speaker 3: I'm glad that my wife helped me in that, Like,
- 6:46Speaker 3: you know, be logical. Ones us, just you know, just
- 6:49Speaker 3: set me down because I really wanted I had to
- 6:51Speaker 3: go with the security. Yeah, for my family, and at
- 6:54Speaker 3: the time Chip Kelly was there, they just wasn't offering
- 6:57Speaker 3: what I thought was fair. But it's all are good,
- 7:00Speaker 3: like you know, I mean, I learned a lot in
- 7:02Speaker 3: that situation. But man, I'm telling you, man, Cam, I'll
- 7:06Speaker 3: be chanting thirty young boys now, doubt take care of yourself.
- 7:10Speaker 3: Take care of your body, man, and and pass it
- 7:12Speaker 3: on to don't you know like you we all need
- 7:15Speaker 3: each other to get to where we're going. If I
- 7:16Speaker 3: got some info, that's gonna help you, you know when
- 7:19Speaker 3: your time come.
- 7:20Speaker 2: Just no, I'm gonna help you best I can't.
- 7:22Speaker 3: Hey whatever, IFO I got less less, pass it and
- 7:25Speaker 3: pass it on because at the end of the day, man,
- 7:27Speaker 3: like you said, it's the organization. They gonna take care
- 7:30Speaker 3: of me because they're gonna be here.
- 7:32Speaker 2: Like they're here or now.
- 7:33Speaker 3: For a lot of people that I looked up to,
- 7:35Speaker 3: like a JP and them boys, they retired gone and
- 7:39Speaker 3: you know they own to the New Patch, right, you
- 7:41Speaker 3: better do all you can for your family while you're there.
- 7:43Speaker 1: Absolutely, Bro, you talked about you know, playing against playing
- 7:46Speaker 1: with Jason Kelce and Fletcher Cox and them not being
- 7:49Speaker 1: part of the franchise no more, whether they're retired or
- 7:52Speaker 1: whatever that is. But how special was it to have
- 7:54Speaker 1: such a core group for.
- 7:56Speaker 2: Ten plus years? You got Lane Johnson, Yeah.
- 8:00Speaker 1: Jason Kelce, you Fletch Like, that's a strong core. Everybody
- 8:05Speaker 1: knows like your locker room carries a lot. And we
- 8:07Speaker 1: had the same core able to build and and and
- 8:10Speaker 1: create a culture. How was it building that culture with
- 8:13Speaker 1: those guys to where where is it?
- 8:15Speaker 2: Where will it go?
- 8:16Speaker 3: I think it was great because people had people in
- 8:20Speaker 3: different rooms. Uh, you know, you got Kelsey. Then at
- 8:23Speaker 3: the time we did have We stole Malcolm from y'all.
- 8:25Speaker 3: So Malcolm was in there for a minute.
- 8:27Speaker 2: And it was ball. You know what I'm saying.
- 8:30Speaker 3: I know, And so you know, having those guys in
- 8:33Speaker 3: different rooms. That's why I was saying the year we
- 8:35Speaker 3: won Super Bowl that we had guys like blunting and
- 8:38Speaker 3: running back room. We had Malcolm Jenkins who had them
- 8:42Speaker 3: boys together, Corey Graham you know at the time. Uh,
- 8:46Speaker 3: he was a big mentor to a lot of the guys.
- 8:48Speaker 3: Then you got in our room me and Fletched.
- 8:50Speaker 1: Uh.
- 8:50Speaker 2: Then the linebackers.
- 8:51Speaker 3: We had Nigel uh you know he was he was
- 8:55Speaker 3: really you know, taking over at the time. Jordan Hicks
- 8:57Speaker 3: he was hurt, but he kept you know, lead at
- 9:00Speaker 3: that time. And man, it was it was special. I
- 9:03Speaker 3: mean then Kelsey was making his name as he was going.
- 9:06Speaker 1: It's even shout out to my dog. Mike Kendricks by
- 9:08Speaker 1: the way, Yeah, Mike Kendrick. Yeah, Mike Kendrick, you know,
- 9:11Speaker 1: you know what. And Mike was too like Mike. Of course,
- 9:16Speaker 1: with Mike, you got to just make sure you keep
- 9:18Speaker 1: him right at the end of the day. And so
- 9:20Speaker 1: nib made show, made show.
- 9:23Speaker 2: It just worked. It just worked out, man. And Mike.
- 9:26Speaker 3: Uh Man, that's funny you said that, because I seen
- 9:29Speaker 3: Mike we did a sign and they did like a
- 9:31Speaker 3: chap the championship team we had did a signing together
- 9:34Speaker 3: and got to see him looking good, had a big
- 9:36Speaker 3: old blue little jacket on. He's looking smooth like he
- 9:40Speaker 3: always do. But man, it was it was people in
- 9:44Speaker 3: every room and that helped be able to echo the car.
- 9:47Speaker 3: So now with them gone, I got to see who
- 9:50Speaker 3: the next man is. Who gonna be the next one
- 9:52Speaker 3: that's gonna bet them. I don't want you to be Kelsey.
- 9:55Speaker 3: I just hope that you learn what you could from
- 9:57Speaker 3: him every day. Uh, when you've seen him in that room,
- 10:00Speaker 3: now you know what it takes. And you've seen on
- 10:01Speaker 3: the field what you gotta do off the field the
- 10:04Speaker 3: film you gotta watch the film. You gotta talk about
- 10:07Speaker 3: with your coach and stuff like that. Because if you're
- 10:09Speaker 3: gonna be the quarterback of the you know or the line,
- 10:12Speaker 3: I mean, I gotta be able to kelsel smart like
- 10:14Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you got to be able to
- 10:15Speaker 3: make them calls and be able to know who bluffing
- 10:18Speaker 3: who ain't. You know, you ain't gonna always get it right,
- 10:21Speaker 3: but you gotta make sure you keep everybody together, because
- 10:24Speaker 3: I mean we we go as the center go, absolutely
- 10:27Speaker 3: go as that as them calls.
- 10:28Speaker 2: For sure.
- 10:29Speaker 3: Man, if we ain't on the same page, you know,
- 10:31Speaker 3: bombs over a bag dad for us, we can't get there.
- 10:34Speaker 2: We never can get there. dB at the ball out
- 10:37Speaker 2: quick take it take two, It take too. It takes me.
- 10:40Speaker 1: It takes it takes Marshaun Lottimore. It I need you
- 10:43Speaker 1: like you need me. Let's work together.
- 10:44Speaker 2: Let's work together. But they gotta believe in that dream too.
- 10:47Speaker 3: Absolutely you know I think, yeah, man, it's uh, it's
- 10:50Speaker 3: gonna be tough because it's gonna be new territory.
- 10:53Speaker 2: But we're gonna make our every year. Everybody that team
- 10:56Speaker 2: was that team. What we gonna be.
- 10:58Speaker 3: And I ain't worried about what we did last year
- 11:01Speaker 3: is what we're gonna do this year because I know
- 11:03Speaker 3: we should feel a little sting from what we did
- 11:06Speaker 3: last year. So right, let's let's go out there day.
- 11:09Speaker 3: You you know what it took to do that. We
- 11:11Speaker 3: work hard every day and you know, we gotta make
- 11:13Speaker 3: sure that we that we stay on the same page,
- 11:15Speaker 3: because it just wasn't on the same page like we
- 11:17Speaker 3: like it should have been, knowing what we know for sure.
- 11:21Speaker 3: I mean, you know we should have been seeing each
- 11:24Speaker 3: other too. Man, Just I know, I ain't gonna bring
- 11:26Speaker 3: it up. I know you had to talk about that.
- 11:28Speaker 2: Man.
- 11:28Speaker 1: Look, look, I was cool with y'all winning that year
- 11:30Speaker 1: because it had Minnesota. One wouldn't like that would have
- 11:34Speaker 1: been the sting in my life, you know, like Minnesota
- 11:37Speaker 1: miracle derailed us.
- 11:39Speaker 2: Y'all with Nick Foles.
- 11:40Speaker 1: I said, they get Nick Foles, and next thing you know,
- 11:43Speaker 1: Nick Foles is out there destroying the skull Cloud and
- 11:45Speaker 1: I said okay.
- 11:47Speaker 2: I said, okay, Lord man, at least sy we didn't
- 11:49Speaker 2: want to see y'all. I ain't gonna lie. I mean
- 11:51Speaker 2: just for me personally.
- 11:52Speaker 1: We wanted to see y'all because I think we had
- 11:54Speaker 1: played earlier that year, and I was like, I was like, yeah,
- 11:56Speaker 1: we like, we like this match. We had already picked out,
- 11:59Speaker 1: like you know. Champagne was like like hey, was like,
- 12:02Speaker 1: after we get done with him, we got Philly. I said, no,
- 12:04Speaker 1: I hate anytime a coach like, for for shadows, what's
- 12:07Speaker 1: gonna happen.
- 12:08Speaker 2: I'm like, I got nervous.
- 12:09Speaker 3: I'd be like, d don't say that, don't do it,
- 12:11Speaker 3: don't do it. Everybody know that already. We just gotta
- 12:14Speaker 3: get there. Yeah, we just gotta get there. We gotta
- 12:16Speaker 3: get there. Then you end up with.
- 12:18Speaker 1: The strip sack, and you know, shripsacks seal the super
- 12:21Speaker 1: Bowl and the legend continues. You know, like if you
- 12:25Speaker 1: if you just think about that that strip sack, right
- 12:27Speaker 1: Tom Brady's Super Bowl fifty two, that changed the trajectory
- 12:32Speaker 1: of your legacy with the Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah, like that
- 12:37Speaker 1: that led you into a moment that's gonna be iconic forever.
- 12:41Speaker 1: When they think Philly super Bowl, they're gonna be like
- 12:43Speaker 1: Brandon Graham ship sack.
- 12:44Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 12:45Speaker 3: No, it's it's something special, man, that I don't take
- 12:48Speaker 3: for granted. You know, I really look back and be like, Man,
- 12:52Speaker 3: I was really mad at Philly for a minute because
- 12:55Speaker 3: it was just Earl Thomas this we could have got
- 12:57Speaker 3: this guy and all that, and I was about to leave.
- 13:00Speaker 2: Because of that, you know, and they're gonna leave. You're
- 13:03Speaker 2: gonna leave.
- 13:03Speaker 3: Because because it was so much like I told you,
- 13:06Speaker 3: it was tough in the beginning of like making that
- 13:08Speaker 3: emotional decision because I didn't feel I was being treated right.
- 13:11Speaker 3: It was more with the fans and stuff like that,
- 13:13Speaker 3: because I mean I would have good good some I
- 13:16Speaker 3: was playing okay, but then Earl Thomas, that's Earl Thomas
- 13:20Speaker 3: was playing, you know, at a high level, and we
- 13:22Speaker 3: went I went right after what I think he went
- 13:26Speaker 3: after me. He had fourteen We had a chance to
- 13:28Speaker 3: get him. That's why they thought we traded up, because
- 13:31Speaker 3: Brian Dawkins just left all that stuff. And then Pierre
- 13:34Speaker 3: Paul got right him too.
- 13:36Speaker 2: You know, he was bawling.
- 13:37Speaker 3: He ended up winning Super Bowl that next year or
- 13:39Speaker 3: at eleven and so I had to hear that man
- 13:41Speaker 3: for so many years and I ain't really like being
- 13:44Speaker 3: there at first. And then when we won that super Bowl,
- 13:47Speaker 3: for that moment, you know, it was like wow, everything changed,
- 13:51Speaker 3: and like you said, things changed where I can go
- 13:54Speaker 3: up to how we and be like, so, what's going on?
- 13:56Speaker 2: That's why you built that confidence. And absolutely we finally
- 13:59Speaker 2: got us one.
- 14:00Speaker 3: And I mean, yeah, you still got to play at
- 14:03Speaker 3: a high level, but I think for me that's when
- 14:05Speaker 3: things changed.
- 14:06Speaker 2: And I was happy that I stuck in there, man,
- 14:08Speaker 2: because I.
- 14:09Speaker 3: Mean, you know how hard it is to get I mean,
- 14:11Speaker 3: you you living it right now, right. You know we're
- 14:14Speaker 3: gonna compete. We got a good team coming back to
- 14:17Speaker 3: but Joah boys gonna be tough too.
- 14:18Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like needed hungry. Hungry is
- 14:22Speaker 1: the word for all these wins.
- 14:23Speaker 2: Bro Ye.
- 14:34Speaker 1: If you look back at your rookie self with everything
- 14:36Speaker 1: that you know now, with that change anything for you,
- 14:38Speaker 1: because you talked about your trials and tribulation with JPP
- 14:41Speaker 1: going after you, You talk about you know, everybody sort
- 14:44Speaker 1: of wanting you know, earl from your draft class, and
- 14:47Speaker 1: then you know, for to where you are now you're
- 14:49Speaker 1: the legacy guy. You know, Jpps retired. Earl has been
- 14:54Speaker 1: retired for a couple of years. I don't know if
- 14:56Speaker 1: he's come out and said it, but that just is
- 14:57Speaker 1: what it is. What would you tell you, your younger self,
- 15:01Speaker 1: your rookie year.
- 15:02Speaker 3: I would say to not worry about nobody else. At
- 15:07Speaker 3: that time, you know, I felt like, even when I
- 15:09Speaker 3: got hurt, I remember saying, man, them boys don't even
- 15:12Speaker 3: get it. They out here getting days off and I'm
- 15:16Speaker 3: over here working, were working. I was a lot, you know.
- 15:19Speaker 3: I don't know why I was, you know, just looking
- 15:21Speaker 3: at that, I just felt like we like, as a rookie,
- 15:24Speaker 3: I just had all this pressure on me. And then
- 15:26Speaker 3: I had Watchburn too. Watchburn was a tough coach boy,
- 15:29Speaker 3: and I just, you know, nothing could nothing.
- 15:32Speaker 2: I did. What I felt like was making them, you know,
- 15:35Speaker 2: happy at all, and I'm eating and yet he still
- 15:38Speaker 2: looking at me like I'm yeah.
- 15:39Speaker 3: Taking care of these you know, the older guys at
- 15:42Speaker 3: the time, and then just giving me the crumbs was
- 15:44Speaker 3: just so much. So I was just like, man, I
- 15:47Speaker 3: want to break too, just like them boys. And then
- 15:49Speaker 3: I got a long break. I tore my knee and
- 15:51Speaker 3: I was like at that point, I was like, man,
- 15:54Speaker 3: I ain't gonna worry about nobody else because I ended
- 15:56Speaker 3: up going through a lot of stuff during that time
- 15:58Speaker 3: when I was coming back from injury, and that's when
- 16:00Speaker 3: Earl Thomas and all that.
- 16:01Speaker 2: We could have had this guy and we got this
- 16:03Speaker 2: this dude.
- 16:03Speaker 3: And I would say, I love the perseverance I had
- 16:08Speaker 3: because it was tough.
- 16:10Speaker 2: But I had some guys like JP at the time, Trent.
- 16:14Speaker 3: Cole, them boys man to be able to help me
- 16:17Speaker 3: in a dark time that I didn't know was dark
- 16:19Speaker 3: until I got out of it because I was still smiling,
- 16:23Speaker 3: being me and all that little stuff.
- 16:24Speaker 2: But I ain't go out nowhere, I ain't do nothing
- 16:26Speaker 2: as much.
- 16:27Speaker 3: You were affected. But yeah it was fiction. Yeah it
- 16:30Speaker 3: wasn't nothing like that. Yeah, it was just more like NN,
- 16:34Speaker 3: like you can still go out, still have fun, enjoy yourself.
- 16:37Speaker 3: I was even not even talking with family, you know
- 16:40Speaker 3: that type of like I was just in the house
- 16:42Speaker 3: most of the time. So if I could talk to myself,
- 16:45Speaker 3: like I said, it's not worry about nothing else. Everything
- 16:48Speaker 3: got a season, you know, even when you're going through
- 16:50Speaker 3: your worst times, it's only for a season. And then
- 16:53Speaker 3: it's gonna switch up. It might not switch up all
- 16:55Speaker 3: the way up here, but it's gonna switch.
- 16:57Speaker 2: Up, you know. But you know it was a grime. Man.
- 17:01Speaker 3: You gotta stay with it, gotta how bad do you
- 17:03Speaker 3: want it? You gotta talk to yourself in a positive.
- 17:05Speaker 2: How bad do you want it? As you want?
- 17:07Speaker 1: But don't don't don't sell me the dream, tell me
- 17:10Speaker 1: the vision. Tell me, like, I need to see what
- 17:12Speaker 1: our plan is and how we gonna get it. Like
- 17:14Speaker 1: when you when you figure out your way and you
- 17:16Speaker 1: figure out your plan and you said, like how I'm
- 17:18Speaker 1: going to dominate the day. That's when them days start
- 17:20Speaker 1: stacking and that's when you see real significant change. But
- 17:23Speaker 1: tell me about you know you talked about how you
- 17:26Speaker 1: almost left Philly. Do you think you know into the giants.
- 17:29Speaker 2: At that right?
- 17:30Speaker 1: Like what what came down in twenty fifteen when you
- 17:33Speaker 1: were thinking about leaving versus staying versus giants, which staying
- 17:37Speaker 1: in the in division is crazy work to me to
- 17:40Speaker 1: stay in the division, Like that's low key arrival, Yeah,
- 17:42Speaker 1: like you know, like clearly.
- 17:43Speaker 2: Its giants cowboys, but it's also really in that thing too,
- 17:49Speaker 2: like y'all, y'all in a little three way triangle. It's always,
- 17:52Speaker 2: I mean, and then the Redskins every now and then.
- 17:54Speaker 2: I don't like nobody, No I like I like you
- 17:57Speaker 2: telling me.
- 17:57Speaker 3: You tell me some of the coaches that they got,
- 18:00Speaker 3: like a Darryl Tapp who you know, I played with
- 18:03Speaker 3: Noah's energy like he got his first little spot as
- 18:06Speaker 3: a D line coach.
- 18:06Speaker 2: I mean, they got a good staff. I will say absolutely.
- 18:09Speaker 3: You know how it is having a staff. I mean,
- 18:11Speaker 3: if you got you a solid staff, you you're gonna
- 18:13Speaker 3: be all right.
- 18:13Speaker 2: You usually have your main rival.
- 18:15Speaker 1: But then and then somewhere in your division, somebody else
- 18:17Speaker 1: just pops a head up every couple of years, like
- 18:19Speaker 1: we rivals.
- 18:19Speaker 3: But but the three we've been a three headed yeah
- 18:22Speaker 3: after for a minute, but yeah, man, I think just
- 18:26Speaker 3: for me in that moment, it was because I was
- 18:29Speaker 3: just feeling a certain way about the fans, and y'all
- 18:32Speaker 3: want me, all right, Beta leave, I'm.
- 18:34Speaker 1: Gonna leave, and I'm gonna say, y'all, I'm gonna come
- 18:36Speaker 1: and see y'all twice a year.
- 18:37Speaker 2: I'm gonna show y'all, y'all sing the petty factor. I
- 18:39Speaker 2: do love a good petty factor.
- 18:40Speaker 3: That's why I said they was offering a one year
- 18:42Speaker 3: at the time, and then Philly was offering me that
- 18:45Speaker 3: four year deal. I ended up signing it anyway, So
- 18:47Speaker 3: I went with the security because I have my family.
- 18:49Speaker 3: So that's what you mean by security. Yeah, that's one
- 18:51Speaker 3: verse four.
- 18:52Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 18:52Speaker 3: And so at the time, it was baby girl, you know,
- 18:56Speaker 3: and I was just like, uh, you know, wife, he
- 18:59Speaker 3: just talks some sense into me at that time, and
- 19:01Speaker 3: it just was it was it was cool because I
- 19:05Speaker 3: gotta go.
- 19:05Speaker 2: With the security. I went with the security.
- 19:07Speaker 3: I probably seen Chip one more year after that, and
- 19:10Speaker 3: then we ended up getting a Doug played through that
- 19:13Speaker 3: first year with Doug.
- 19:13Speaker 2: Second year we went Super Bowl, right, you know, and
- 19:16Speaker 2: pan out.
- 19:16Speaker 3: Well, it never would have like happened if I's It
- 19:20Speaker 3: just showed me that much more on how much life
- 19:22Speaker 3: is full of choices and you gotta make sure, you know,
- 19:25Speaker 3: you exhaust everything that you can.
- 19:26Speaker 2: Because me and wife we had to talk.
- 19:27Speaker 3: We had a little real long talk about it because
- 19:30Speaker 3: it got serious for a minute because my agent like, hey,
- 19:33Speaker 3: what we're gonna do, because you know, they it's only
- 19:35Speaker 3: gonna last for a minute. It's right gonna be on
- 19:37Speaker 3: the table. And I was just like, you know, what.
- 19:40Speaker 3: Let me talk with wife a little bit and we said,
- 19:42Speaker 3: we talked and it was like, yeah, you started to hear,
- 19:46Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, if you're not
- 19:48Speaker 3: feeling good, you on how to.
- 19:50Speaker 2: But I don't want you to do it for that reason.
- 19:52Speaker 3: And just like you know what, she was just like,
- 19:56Speaker 3: you know, if if you offering you four years, you
- 19:58Speaker 3: obviously doing something you know where they want to They
- 20:00Speaker 3: want to keep you. So let's just go with that
- 20:03Speaker 3: and let's see see what happens.
- 20:04Speaker 2: But I know for me, it was like, all right,
- 20:08Speaker 2: well bet that's what still kind of I got this
- 20:10Speaker 2: chip on my shoulder now because it's still the same.
- 20:13Speaker 2: It's like y'all wanted to get rid of me for real,
- 20:15Speaker 2: like you know, or the fans. That's how it was.
- 20:17Speaker 2: But then I came back and I persevered.
- 20:19Speaker 1: Everybody knows about them Philly fans, thin't man. Many they're
- 20:23Speaker 1: the best when y'all when y'all winning. They the worst
- 20:26Speaker 1: when y'all when y'all doing anything.
- 20:27Speaker 3: But oh yeah, wifey, wife, he talks some good senses
- 20:31Speaker 3: to me, and it became that I want to just
- 20:33Speaker 3: have that, just want to prove them wrong. And you know,
- 20:36Speaker 3: I'm like, they're gonna eat them words. That's just I
- 20:38Speaker 3: used to carry with me all the time. Man, and man,
- 20:41Speaker 3: when it happened three years later, it was like wow,
- 20:44Speaker 3: like you know, just the power to tongue on top
- 20:47Speaker 3: of you know, just making it to exist, making sure
- 20:49Speaker 3: you're putting that, putting that that that plan in place
- 20:52Speaker 3: of that belief. All right, man, it ain't gonna be
- 20:55Speaker 3: It's gonna be hard to get to do what you
- 20:57Speaker 3: want to do. You got to do it one day
- 20:59Speaker 3: at a time, and this you gotta do right now.
- 21:01Speaker 3: So I feel like, man, thank you. I shout out
- 21:04Speaker 3: to my wife because she definitely talked some sense to me.
- 21:08Speaker 3: And then of course my mom because her work ethic
- 21:10Speaker 3: I've seen every day.
- 21:11Speaker 2: Yeah, to help me in those moments when I wanted
- 21:15Speaker 2: to give up, definitely for sure. And the.
- 21:20Speaker 1: Moms have dropped some gyms that you ain't really trying
- 21:22Speaker 1: to hear, but yeah you needed to hear.
- 21:23Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 21:24Speaker 1: Well what do you what are you looking back at
- 21:26Speaker 1: your your fourteen years completed? What would you say is
- 21:28Speaker 1: your proudest moment of your NFL career?
- 21:31Speaker 3: I mean, with it not being done, I mean I'm
- 21:33Speaker 3: loving the role I have right now. Like I told you,
- 21:37Speaker 3: I'll be serving the guys. But if I had to,
- 21:39Speaker 3: if I had to say, it was that year we
- 21:41Speaker 3: want super Bowl. I mean that was everything.
- 21:43Speaker 1: Man.
- 21:43Speaker 3: That was the first team I was ever on where
- 21:46Speaker 3: I was like, man, we.
- 21:47Speaker 2: We was together. I missed them boys. You know what
- 21:50Speaker 2: I'm saying.
- 21:50Speaker 3: Yeah, that that energy, the jokes. I mean when you
- 21:53Speaker 3: got jokesters on your team. Man, you know, we laughing
- 21:56Speaker 3: every day. I wish I had more video of our
- 22:00Speaker 3: We used to go out to eat every Thursday. As
- 22:02Speaker 3: a defense, sometimes it's the it's the offense in there
- 22:05Speaker 3: when it's supposed to be a defensive thing. That's just
- 22:07Speaker 3: let let that let you know a lot right there
- 22:09Speaker 3: when the other guys hanging offense defense and they be like, man,
- 22:12Speaker 3: come on, come come to our defensive thing. One person
- 22:16Speaker 3: pay for it, Like I mean, like me a vet
- 22:18Speaker 3: right now, I pay.
- 22:19Speaker 2: For the whole meal.
- 22:20Speaker 3: And then we all switch every week the guys that
- 22:23Speaker 3: could that could do it. And so it was just
- 22:26Speaker 3: that last meal. Man, when we was about to play
- 22:29Speaker 3: the Patriots, it was.
- 22:31Speaker 2: Everybody and that thing.
- 22:32Speaker 3: It felt like, and I mean I can remember I
- 22:35Speaker 3: can see Mirragos laughing Chris Miragos.
- 22:37Speaker 2: He was a joster. He was funny.
- 22:39Speaker 3: I mean, man, you got blunt them boys that came
- 22:43Speaker 3: in because you know, DB's messing with the running backs
- 22:46Speaker 3: and stuff, and it's.
- 22:47Speaker 2: Just yeah, it was, man, it was a chemistry. Every year.
- 22:51Speaker 1: Every year the locker rooms changed change, but like personalities
- 22:55Speaker 1: changed with the two. Some years you're closer than others.
- 22:57Speaker 1: But them years that you're close, you're like, like we're rinning.
- 23:01Speaker 1: We're like you can feel the difference in the winning.
- 23:03Speaker 1: You're like, bro, we're winning because of us, Like.
- 23:05Speaker 3: Because look at the dance and we're doing every touchdown
- 23:08Speaker 3: and y'all, boys, we got we got coordinated stuff that
- 23:11Speaker 3: y'all believe is gonna happen for real, you know.
- 23:14Speaker 2: And so I mean, man, it just worked out that way.
- 23:17Speaker 3: So even the year we won the Super Bowl, I
- 23:20Speaker 3: mean lost the Super Bowl, that was a close team too,
- 23:23Speaker 3: and it sucked because we Man, that would have been
- 23:25Speaker 3: my best team because I felt that vibe too, and
- 23:28Speaker 3: we made it and it just was we felt we
- 23:30Speaker 3: was man, it was it was so good.
- 23:32Speaker 2: But mahons man, he.
- 23:35Speaker 3: Is the right. We got a slater king. Man, we
- 23:39Speaker 3: gonna have to if we want to get there. So
- 23:41Speaker 3: uh but yeah, man, this that moment we want. That
- 23:45Speaker 3: year we won super Bowl was a special year for me.
- 23:47Speaker 3: So but I'm not done yet because this could be
- 23:50Speaker 3: the this could be the this could be this year.
- 23:54Speaker 2: Sixteen.
- 23:55Speaker 1: But but what year is this? This I'm coming up
- 23:57Speaker 1: on fourteen? You Enton, you enticeon was you know, class
- 24:02Speaker 1: twenty ten? And then I was I was one year after?
- 24:04Speaker 2: Man, like.
- 24:07Speaker 1: I need that this year. Look you've had, You've had
- 24:09Speaker 1: your shots at I need. I need at least one
- 24:11Speaker 1: shot at it.
- 24:11Speaker 2: Yeah, I got.
- 24:12Speaker 1: But as you know, as we're sitting here a broadcast
- 24:14Speaker 1: workshop week, you know, NFL puts on the broad chat
- 24:17Speaker 1: broadcast workshop. What is it that you're looking forward to
- 24:20Speaker 1: and what do you look to gain from it? As
- 24:22Speaker 1: well as do you see yourself? Well, you know what
- 24:24Speaker 1: just leather of that. What are you looking forward to
- 24:25Speaker 1: this week?
- 24:26Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to just seeing myself being put to
- 24:29Speaker 3: put to the test on some stuff that I'm familiar with.
- 24:33Speaker 3: But now it's about to get real, Like you know,
- 24:35Speaker 3: calling a game, it's like, whow you.
- 24:38Speaker 2: Ever done that yet? Getting my getting my heart beating
- 24:40Speaker 2: a little fast, talk about it. Now it's like call
- 24:43Speaker 2: a game.
- 24:44Speaker 3: Okay, let me see, I'm gonna be as animated as
- 24:47Speaker 3: I can be. But yeah, man, what I'm trying to
- 24:49Speaker 3: get out of it is just the challenge of you know,
- 24:52Speaker 3: doing some stuff up, getting uncomfortable with some stuff right,
- 24:55Speaker 3: and trying to get comfortable in the space where I
- 24:57Speaker 3: think I can thrive, you know, if I really you know,
- 25:00Speaker 3: work at it.
- 25:00Speaker 2: Like how the attitude that we have.
- 25:02Speaker 3: Man, it's like, you know, I know it's gonna be uncomfortable,
- 25:05Speaker 3: but you can do it.
- 25:06Speaker 2: You know.
- 25:07Speaker 3: I tell people all the time, it's one day at
- 25:08Speaker 3: a time, and don't look too far ahead on what.
- 25:11Speaker 2: You already don't know. You got to find out. Be here,
- 25:14Speaker 2: be in the moment.
- 25:15Speaker 3: And I just want to I just really want to
- 25:16Speaker 3: learn honestly this week and exhaust everything. That's what I'm
- 25:21Speaker 3: doing this year, Exhausting everything that I can see, put
- 25:24Speaker 3: myself to the test and help people along the way, okay,
- 25:29Speaker 3: and be able to be able to help other people
- 25:33Speaker 3: that's on their way out. It's like, man, it's it
- 25:35Speaker 3: ain't as bad as you might think or what you're
- 25:38Speaker 3: going through. If you setting yourself up now, man of servitude,
- 25:42Speaker 3: you know, yeah, that's just trying to have that that
- 25:45Speaker 3: feeling man of serving and being able to get more
- 25:48Speaker 3: experience and stuff that I never really got a chance
- 25:50Speaker 3: to because.
- 25:50Speaker 2: I made excuse in the off season on training.
- 25:52Speaker 3: I'm doing this, but nah, it's like, all right, it's
- 25:56Speaker 3: getting real, b Like what you really want to do?
- 25:59Speaker 2: All right?
- 26:00Speaker 3: Come on, you got some stuff that second office to you.
- 26:02Speaker 3: But it's come on, do you really want to do that?
- 26:04Speaker 2: Do you love that? Right? And so that's why I'm
- 26:07Speaker 2: doing this right.
- 26:07Speaker 3: Now to to see if I'm gonna love you know,
- 26:11Speaker 3: just coming to work every day?
- 26:12Speaker 2: Why no?
- 26:13Speaker 1: All right, let's let's check out this this uh, this
- 26:15Speaker 1: segment called quick hitters. I got three quick questions for
- 26:18Speaker 1: you to wrap this up. I just want to know
- 26:20Speaker 1: you've been in the Philly for almost fifteen years. You
- 26:22Speaker 1: say you moved there now full time? H What Philly slang?
- 26:25Speaker 1: Do you catch yourself repeating, Uh, that John, that Jone
- 26:30Speaker 1: had me that John? You've seen that John. Let me
- 26:32Speaker 1: get that Jone. Let me get that Jon over that
- 26:35Speaker 1: over there?
- 26:35Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 26:37Speaker 1: What's is there a top three Detroit rappers or artists
- 26:41Speaker 1: that you listen to?
- 26:42Speaker 2: Oh?
- 26:43Speaker 3: I mean man Namy Tice where and you know It's tough,
- 26:46Speaker 3: the whole click of him because they grew up. We
- 26:49Speaker 3: grew up, you know, I'm knowing you know them, man.
- 26:53Speaker 3: And then let me see if I had to go
- 26:56Speaker 3: mm hmm, let me da. You put me on the
- 26:58Speaker 3: spot with that one. And I'm trying to think, I
- 27:00Speaker 3: can't even think of no name side of baby, yeah, baby,
- 27:04Speaker 3: And then it's that's still in the same tree.
- 27:08Speaker 2: And why can I think his name? I can see his.
- 27:10Speaker 3: Face, uh Psy, you know, I just say, I just
- 27:14Speaker 3: say ps and and they crew all m andel, I like,
- 27:19Speaker 3: I like eminel.
- 27:19Speaker 2: No, there's nothing that's not what you said. This is crazy.
- 27:21Speaker 2: This is who who's going right now, right now, right
- 27:24Speaker 2: now that I know. Okay, if there.
- 27:26Speaker 1: Was any moment in NFL career you could live one
- 27:28Speaker 1: more time, what would it be relive any moment in
- 27:31Speaker 1: your NFL crew.
- 27:31Speaker 3: I'm going back to that strip sack, going back strip said,
- 27:35Speaker 3: sitting on that bench after that, Oh man, it was
- 27:38Speaker 3: I could I just.
- 27:40Speaker 2: Said, I can't believe I just did that.
- 27:42Speaker 1: Like you know you probably have no man, I've got that.
- 27:45Speaker 1: There's there's been games. I'm just breathing excellence. I would
- 27:48Speaker 1: like you so that being saying it's strip sacked. Do
- 27:50Speaker 1: you still have that as a license plate?
- 27:52Speaker 2: Not? No more, no more. I had to get rid
- 27:54Speaker 2: of it because it got crazy.
- 27:56Speaker 1: You said, you sat down and escalate. The strip sack
- 27:58Speaker 1: was right there. I just knew Philly was like give
- 28:01Speaker 1: you royal treatment. I said, oh he going wold with
- 28:03Speaker 1: this one. Oh well, it was cool, No, you know
- 28:05Speaker 1: who in there. It really was cool.
- 28:06Speaker 3: But yeah, it became that like you know, it became
- 28:09Speaker 3: on the freeway people you know, honking and and now
- 28:12Speaker 3: I'm I'm on alert, like man, let me make sure
- 28:15Speaker 3: nobody follow me.
- 28:16Speaker 2: No doubt I'm here. Stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, you know,
- 28:19Speaker 2: stuff like that down the window and give me that jump.
- 28:21Speaker 3: I'm always I'm all, you're right, they gonna say that
- 28:26Speaker 3: all that, but you know, I just for me. I
- 28:29Speaker 3: just really I enjoyed. I enjoyed just having that moment,
- 28:33Speaker 3: like you know, some something that I always be able
- 28:36Speaker 3: to have for the kids.
- 28:38Speaker 1: Yeah, And I appreciate you tapping in with me, my dog, Hey,
- 28:42Speaker 1: thank you for tapping in with Off the Edge with
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