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Toilet Radio 504 – Bite Thy Thumb at Capulet Fest · Radio Toilet ov Hell

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  You're listening to 66 point 6FF,
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  radio T0H,
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  the flush.
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  Well, hey, everybody. It's me Joe T and
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  Kill you're listening to another thrilling episode of
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  the. World of Radio show. I'm joined today
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  as always by the good and golden boy.
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  We call him Jordan. Jordan, how are you?
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  I'm good. How are you, Jim? I'm a
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  little sleepy. I got... I got the the
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  sleep over here.
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  Went out to
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  a a bar
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  and for their their, like, ride celebration night
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  where they had
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  bands and various
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  d theme carnival games and things like that.
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  So
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  stayed out way way past my bedtime with
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  kit,
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  kit parted with us, and
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  and now I got the sleep, man.
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  Was 1 of these still carnival games, like,
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  they have the balloons on the wall and
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  you throw 1 like a dart and if
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  you break it, you get a prize. Yes.
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  They had... They blew up condoms, and they
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  gave you
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  those sand sand bags to to throw at
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  them, And you had to put some pepper
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  on that shit to break the condoms.
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  Yeah. I mean, the whole point that the
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  economists did not break. Yeah. Yeah. So that
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  was that was 1 of them. I won
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  myself a a cozy
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  with that game.
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  They had D a ring toss, which is
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  just as crooked as the average carnival game
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  because those things are floppy all over the
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  place.
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  You know who you needed. You needed a
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  ringer for these things. Absolutely. You needed George
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  Corpse grind or fisher to just ruin the...
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  Pride bar carnival games because he would just
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  walk out with the biggest stuff deal possible.
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  Man, the the Grand prize was, like, 1
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  of those
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  bottle openers that, like, you screw onto your
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  wall, like a Top chico branded bottle opener.
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  It was pretty really nice. Actually, heavy duty
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  durable. I did not win that.
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  So you just have to open your,
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  seltzer bottles with your teeth like a p.
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  Exactly. It's a damn shame. My teeth are
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  ruined.
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  So it was good good to see kit.
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  We were
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  we were
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  kinda drunk, like, you know, yelling at each
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  other excited about, you know, death metal albums
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  that we think people are sleeping on and
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  you know, how much people are horrible to
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  it us our job when this
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  absolutely atrocious rep ti,
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  like, you 70 year old man comes up
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  to us and start trying to head on.
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  It's like, okay. You need to step away
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  right now. We're talking about customers being awful.
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  This is not the time.
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  We're having a real conversation here, sir. Yeah.
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  Seriously.
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  Anyway, is a good time.
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  This is this was out of the
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  the double wide bar here in Dallas that
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  I I like a lot. The last time
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  I was there actually, though, I think was
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  the final performance a beloved Texas metal band,
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  the sword.
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  You ever heard you ever heard of that,
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  ben? Sure. I like the rates first stub
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  and didn't care about anything we did after
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  that when I realized, yep. This is pretty
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  much what they sound. Like, the second album
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  was good. We're variety not. That was good.
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  Yeah. I didn't... I didn't care for anything
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  else. Just need... My my attention dropped off
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  immediately. Sure. I no. That makes sense. It's
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  it was a really specific, like,
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  period in, like, 2005
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  or 6 where it's like, whoa, these are,
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  like old school little rift and for some
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  reason that captured a lot of attention. It
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  was good. And then that amounted to
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  nothing in terms of, like, you know, the
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  grand scheme of things. But good records regardless.
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  Yeah. It's because it came out after everyone
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  had already been sick of new metal, and
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  we're already becoming sick of metal core, and
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  this was like, oh, yeah. This is... But
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  music. This is what music used to sound
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  like, maybe let's get back to that and
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  everyone like a. Yeah alright. Go back to
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  the breakdowns, I guess... I mean, I remember
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  distinctly, like, putting that in my car,
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  age of winters, like, in my car and,
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  like, normal people riding around with me were
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  like this rocks man. And then
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  but it didn't open up anything else for
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  them, and that... That's still to this day.
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  Makes me mad. It it rocked, but it
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  did not roll.
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  That's the problem. Needed I needed more songs
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  about fucking, I guess. I think that would
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  have done it. Too much dudes racking I
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  had enough people rolling. Yep. That's it. That's
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  a common pit fall in this game.
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  But,
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  all of that being said,
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  it appears.
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  That what I thought was the final performance
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  of the, the sword is, In fact,
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  another goddamn lie, another band lying to my
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  fucking face.
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  Pissing on my leg and tell me it's
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  raining.
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  And in record time. Yeah, I know. This
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  was all of maybe a year ago that
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  this happened.
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  Because I saw reports that the sword
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  are re
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  for levi limitation
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  20 24,
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  levi limitation is a festival
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  in Austin that I've never gone to because
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  it never does not look like fun to
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  me at all.
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  Yeah. There's an article from revolver
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  talking about this. Sharpen your blades and prime,
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  the bong for some sacred smoke, shut cut
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  up. Yeah. This was written by Gregory Adams
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  so be mad at him. Okay. Because stone
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  fa, the sword are getting back together. 2
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  years after announcing their breakup, the Austin Texas
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  outfit it's just real that they're playing a
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  hometown set this fall as part of this
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  year's levi rehabilitation festival.
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  News the union arrive today june 20 seventh
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  amid the full fist announcement with both organizers
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  and the sword confirming over socials that they'll
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  be riding high for a reunion set at
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  Austin stubs venue on November third.
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  The show will also feature performances from Pro
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  metal he, and I assume they will not
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  be beating up their mothers at this 1,
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  Pent
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  as well as Shaw, Billy burger patrol and
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  the well.
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  My friends in Austin keep trying to tell
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  me that Rick shaw, Billy burger patrol is
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  going to be like, the next excellent biscuit,
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  and I say to them, please stop supporting
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  this band.
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  We keep getting promos and, like news days
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  from them or emails and they kind of
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  sigh. They do big business in Austin. And
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  as far as I can tell absolutely nothing
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  outside of Austin's. It's if we could keep
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  that warranty, that'd be great. Just hometown heroes
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  and villains everywhere else? Yes.
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  No interest in that.
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  So
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  the the levi meditation fest is like Austin's,
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  quote unquote psych,
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  psychedelic festival.
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  Every year it's headline by the black angels,
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  which is 1 of 2 bands I've actually
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  fallen asleep in the middle of their sets.
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  Terrible fucking bad. I hate that shit so
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  much.
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  It sounds like a bake band. No. It's
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  it's incredibly boring, like,
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  60 style. Like so psychedelic la rock, absolutely
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  dull dull dish water.
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  I think we're gonna need to do an
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  episode someday. I'm just boring bands,
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  I I would love to. No Fans we
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  don't hate. We don't have a problem with.
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  It's just... They somehow have a career and
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  people
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  insist that they like them, but I... You
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  know, we don't see proof of it. And
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  then you hear a song and go like,
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  yeah, That's a song sorry.
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  Sure is a song. Yeah. No. Write that
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  idea down. I think that we can fill
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  in a 4 hour up so on that
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  1.
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  Just a marathon
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  episode. Oh, yeah. In this band.
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  Yeah.
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  The other bin I fell asleep for was
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  m 83. Do you remember those guys?
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  And they're they're a a festival...
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  Flyer name information. Nothing else. That was when
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  they were still a club band. And that
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  wasn't so much their fault. It was my
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  fault for being too sleepy.
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  Let's see. Also on this list, we have
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  Boris,
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  who are constantly
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  playing in Austin.
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  Someone called Julie. Do you know, Julie?
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  Probably not the Julie that's playing. Yeah.
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  Julie from down the street. Yeah. Of course.
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  It's good for her.
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  Place to bury strangers.
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  I I assume that's the desert.
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  If I recall correctly, and I might have
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  it mixed up with another band that with
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  a similar name, but 1 of the guys
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  in this band, he also makes guitar pedals,
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  so that should let you all let you
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  know, like, what sounds like,
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  Knit ebb,
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  acid mother temple,
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  some bands I've never heard of. Sounds
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  agriculture, who I do like?
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  See who else do we got here?
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  Jesus Lizard, who I did not know was
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  back the together. Did you know that?
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  I think they played 1 of these other
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  big festivals recently.
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  Soccer mommy.
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  You go... You're gonna go see soccer mommy?
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  No. Yeah.
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  Based on the name alone. Yeah.
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  In P ass band Fuck you.
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  Gang 4 who again, I did not know
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  was together in any way.
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  Let's see. The Chameleons I would get. I
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  can see that. Ty. So I think that's
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  some Dj stuff.
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  Integrity
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  is so far 1 of 2 bins on
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  this I wanna see.
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  Man, I don't know any of these other
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  bands, man. Slow dive. I know them.
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  Man, this is dire.
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  Sailor poo,
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  what
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  that's not real. That's
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  yeah. No. That's... Actually, no. I think I
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  I have seen that ben.
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  I think I'd have to be restrained if
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  I was like, at a festival and someone
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  was, like, coming up next, sailor.
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  Like, I need to be held back from
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  a cell. Thanks someone for a name that
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  bad. Yeah. It's pretty bad.
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  Overall, this is... I would say not for
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  me. Not... Is it for you? Not at
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  all? Okay. Well, I bet there's plenty of
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  people that it is for because this has
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  been going on for, like, 10 years or
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  so.
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  So I wish them all a good time,
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  wearing their,
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  big hats and fashion
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  fashionable clothing.
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  And stuff like that, but this is this
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  is not something I will be participating in
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  at all. It is good to see the
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  sword back, looking forward to them playing a
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  much smaller venue not associated with all this
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  crap.
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  I guess they must need the money.
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  I mean, like,
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  these guys... I'm pretty sure all work service
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  industry. So I know for a fact. Playing
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  a show like this is a bigger payday
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  than, you know, work in the bar for
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  a month.
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  So get a couple thousand dollars to play
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  a 45 minutes set. It's not that. You
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  really can't beat that. If nothing else, these
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  guys just do, you know, 1 or 2
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  Hometown shows a year that's probably...
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  That's probably enough to float by.
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  Well, honestly, your worst things to do.
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  And you don't have to drive far for
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  it. Yeah. That's, again, that's the worst part
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  of all this. Ugh, having to get on
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  the road. Fuck that. I wanna sleep in
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  my gut.
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  So,
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  yeah, You wanna come down and go to
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  levi rehabilitation fest in Austin with me in
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  on Halloween.
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  Oh, it's on Halloween.
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  Halloween
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  through November. It's a 4 day 4 day
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  festival. It doesn't sound fun. No. It's... That
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  doesn't fun at all. Like, that none of
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  those bands sound like they would be a
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  fun Halloween show. No. No. No. No.
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  There's there's plenty of bands out there like,
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  oh, Halloween. That's gotta be a blast. They
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  probably get all dressed up and stuff. And
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  I feel like this style of music just
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  does not lend itself to the fun holiday
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  of the year.
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  I did see
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  Alice Cooper and the mis fits on Halloween
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  last year.
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  And
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  despite all of those things seemingly
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  ji together, that the miss still ruined it.
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  So, you know, maybe, you know, Maybe it's
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  not necessarily what you're what you're billing it
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  as, but what what you get as a
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  final product. It's tough to say.
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  Well, interesting. I'm looking forward to see if
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  they're gonna put up new material if they're
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  gonna do, like,
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  regular tours or if this is just gonna
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  be the 1 off thing.
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  I assume this on that him enough money
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  to make them wanna do it more. Yeah.
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  I... You you gotta assume that.
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  So
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  levi limitation first, again, not my idea of
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  a good time, but you can't deny that
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  it has been very successful.
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  People seem to enjoy it. And with that
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  token, I think that we should look at
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  the exact opposite of that.
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  Boy, is it good to be on social
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  media starting, like, around Thursday
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  for this show. So does Go ahead. Yeah.
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  I just wanna give people an idea here
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  that... You know, you and I, we week
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  wechat every day, you know.
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  But throughout... Go the past several 4 or
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  5 days,
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  it's been you, like, AAAA
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  kid on Christmas morning exciting share.
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  Sharing all of your presence with me.
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  Screenshot, screenshot, Screenshot. Just a a
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  submachine gun of information coming at you as
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  your. Trying to go to
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  party and have fun like a normal human
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  being.
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  Oh, what what is this? Jordan?
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  So this is a festival and if you've
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  been around the past couple of days been
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  reading, some of the usual
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  metal websites, you may have heard of cap
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  fast.
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  It was an outdoor festival in Thompson, Connecticut.
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  And if you've never heard of Thompson Connecticut,
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  that's because they're there's nothing there. It is
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  in the very northeast of the state. It
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  borders the
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  Massachusetts line and the rhode Island line.
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  It's about, like, an hour from Worcester and
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  an hour from Providence, not much going on
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  there. But there is a speedway there.
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  And apparently, they were going to have this
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  festival there from June 20 eighth to June
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  t,
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  and I have the lineup in front of
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  me, and I'll just read the band names
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  that I've heard of. Okay.
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  On Friday, August burns red,
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  bless the fall. Has the day, sleep theory
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  until I wake life in your way and
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  a couple others.
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  That sounds about
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  about what I would expect out of a
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  a festival in this neck the woods.
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  Saturday, head lining,
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  skillet.
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  This. Saint Estonia,
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  red.
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  At leader's way
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  upon a burning body.
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  Gideon
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  0 09:36,
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  in impending doom, it dies today,
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  hollow Front,
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  victims
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  and Mike Dead, who you may remember from
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  a couple of weeks ago where we went
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  through a bunch of Us festivals and the
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  here... That's the That's the guy who's gonna
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  have allegations on him any day now. Right.
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  He was the fruity mum guy about, like,
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  wanting to be tied up. Up and, you
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  know, maybe someone you keep an eye on,
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  and if worked forever comes back. Mh.
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  And on Sunday,
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  nothing more was up was reminded that the
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  vocalist
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  had legal issues after pushing his then girlfriend
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  out of a moving car into hitting her
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  with the car. Jesus Christ
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  Senses fail, 10 years, tap root, cold, lacy
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  stu, Ali asana,
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  island there is set to kill and a
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  bunch of other bands. Pretty bad,
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  bad stuff. I've guide there's is no redeeming
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  value here.
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  Yeah. There isn't much for
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  people like us who prefer med, you know,
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  not Christian Metal corps. Right. The most part
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  or Christian Rock,
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  that's kind of the overarching theme a lot
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  of this is
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  christianity. Not every band on here. Don't get
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  me wrong.
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  But most of them. Well, in the fitting
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  theme of
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  you know, performative of Christianity, it seems like
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  the promoter is really taking it to its
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  logical extension here and just robbing people.
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  So this is supposed to be an outdoor
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  festival U. With
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  like, food trucks and lots of vendors and
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  their
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  sponsorship. Well And it's a whole multi
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  day thing with, like, 55
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  bands.
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  People were gonna be camping. They're selling Vip
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  tickets,
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  meet and greet. It's a whole big cash
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  cow for this sort of thing.
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  And you know, I heard about the announcement
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  previous,
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  but really, had, like, all those bands. I
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  might wanna see 1 and a half. Like,
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  if I was stuck there, I might watch
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  some of these bands, but
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  really nothing to go out for, especially for
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  the prices they were asking for and all
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  this additional
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  festival nonsense that they I just would not
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  wanna be around no matter where it was
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  or what bands were starting to play. Yeah.
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  So trouble started brewing with the festival
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  coming from a post from the speedway that
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  was hosting this. Mh, Thompson Speedway motors sports
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  park,
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  Attention. Thompson Speedway Motors sports park would like
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  to confirm that Calculated at fest is no
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  longer happening at our facility.
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  All additional details about the future of the
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  event will be coming directly from cap.
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  Thompson is not affiliated, associated,
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  Authorized,
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  endorsed by or in any way officially connected
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  with cap fast or calculate entertainment,
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  sounds like a typical mont use statement to
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  me.
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  That sounds like a Macho man Randy savage,
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  elbow drop from the top rope right off
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  the part of capital
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  saying we are not involved in whatever is
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  happening.
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  Yeah. It's... You know, things are gonna get
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  bad when I fucking, like, dirt racetrack is
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  like,
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  We don't really wanna be associated with this.
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  So what...
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  I've been able to gather from other people
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  talking about this is that,
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  the person
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  behind this, Est Vega,
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  well did not
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  pay the crew,
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  that was setting up there. Mh you know,
• 17:33
  the the people putting on stages and
• 17:36
  sound and all that that
• 17:38
  insurance was never
• 17:39
  acquired to have this sort of festival,
• 17:43
  possibly, the speedway itself never received any
• 17:46
  compensation
• 17:47
  And this might have been known like well
• 17:49
  in advance, but was only announced
• 17:53
  I believe Wednesday.
• 17:55
  And said started Friday.
• 17:58
  I see.
• 18:00
  That seems
• 18:02
  maybe the
• 18:03
  dirt track should've have put out a statement
• 18:05
  sooner than that.
• 18:06
  I guess they were like, looking at social
• 18:08
  media like, oh, this motherfucker still thinks that
• 18:10
  he's coming here.
• 18:12
  That's what it sounds like a lot of
• 18:14
  issues come from from fans, vendors, bad. And
• 18:18
  managers just about everyone involved in this that
• 18:21
  there is
• 18:22
  little to no communication
• 18:25
  going on in the days right before the
• 18:27
  festival is supposed to happen.
• 18:29
  And,
• 18:30
  a lot of
• 18:31
  rumors online, a lot lot of
• 18:33
  information being shared by people who were, like,
• 18:36
  not booking the festival, but just happened to
• 18:38
  hear from other people involved, other bands, other
• 18:41
  venues So, what eventually ended up happening
• 18:44
  is the
• 18:45
  festival, and I'm using that term lately Now
• 18:47
  got moved to Webster theater in Hartford.
• 18:50
  Which is about an hour away from where
• 18:52
  the festival is supposed to take place
• 18:55
  and
• 18:56
  putting it lightly Hartford is a dump
• 18:59
  I mean, it is there's there's not much
• 19:01
  going on in the city. It's mostly known
• 19:02
  for, like, having banking jobs there and everyone
• 19:05
  just gets out when sun down happens. Yeah.
• 19:07
  I've I've
• 19:09
  have a couple of friends from that area
• 19:11
  who told me not so great things about
• 19:13
  the spot.
• 19:15
  It's it seems kinda dire. The losing the
• 19:17
  whale was a death load of sitting.
• 19:20
  That's the only thing that people held on
• 19:22
  to and I actually have... Whale hoodie that
• 19:25
  I sometimes wear around, then people will smile
• 19:27
  and point to it and be like, yeah.
• 19:29
  The whale is the last thing we were
• 19:30
  happy.
• 19:32
  They should let them have like...
• 19:34
  I don't know. The the the Florida Panthers
• 19:37
  is just 1 the stanley up, I know,
• 19:39
  but they don't actually have any fans. Just
• 19:41
  move that shit to Hartford. I, I'm more
• 19:43
  than okay with that plan.
• 19:44
  There is the minor league hockey team there,
• 19:46
  the Hartford Wolf back, but it's it's just
• 19:48
  not the same without the... Hideous green in
• 19:51
  Blue Jersey and there. I don't know. That's
• 19:53
  that's an iconic design. The
• 19:55
  the whale tale, you know?
• 19:58
  With their big brass band song, they used
• 20:00
  to play at the beginning of every game
• 20:02
  that was from the seventies and had never
• 20:04
  been updated
• 20:05
  So this is an aside. But, like,
• 20:08
  these guys that I knew from around,
• 20:11
  Connecticut. Were telling me that
• 20:13
  they were... They would go once a year
• 20:15
  to
• 20:16
  Dave Matthews band shows and
• 20:19
  Hartford and that the city turned into a
• 20:22
  fucking law Wasteland and whatever this happened.
• 20:27
  So we need to... We need to have
• 20:28
  our con... We need to have conversations about
• 20:30
  how our our
• 20:31
  jam band youth need to be trained and
• 20:35
  and I haven't been to webster theater and,
• 20:38
  at least 15 years probably longer.
• 20:41
  And I only went, like twice. And both
• 20:42
  times are just not a great experience. Not
• 20:45
  a nice venue.
• 20:46
  It's 1 of those slightly bigger rooms and
• 20:48
  then a smaller space. That's a second stage
• 20:51
  that they call the on underground, which is
• 20:52
  pretty much a small hallway.
• 20:54
  And just not a nice venue not good
• 20:56
  sound, not a good area. Lots of people
• 20:59
  saying, like, just park in front of the
• 21:01
  venue if you wanna keep your stereo and,
• 21:04
  normally when people say that you're like, yeah,
• 21:06
  okay, but
• 21:08
  apparently, it's true. I see.
• 21:10
  So they moved
• 21:12
  this 55 band festival to this indoor venue
• 21:15
  an hour away
• 21:17
  without communicating to people. So people started showing
• 21:20
  up to the speedway way in their camping
• 21:22
  stuff and their Rv and their campers and
• 21:25
  vendors started showing up and setting up and
• 21:28
  until they looked online
• 21:30
  found that 1 way or another that they're
• 21:31
  not supposed to be there anymore.
• 21:33
  Man,
• 21:34
  hotels were booked,
• 21:36
  apparently,
• 21:37
  there was a hotel for the bands I
• 21:39
  were playing there that was then being offered
• 21:41
  to people.
• 21:43
  But again, the hotel was further away that
• 21:46
  the original location, which is further away from
• 21:49
  the new location so that didn't know in
• 21:50
  any good.
• 21:52
  Oh, boy. This is already given me some
• 21:55
  stress
• 21:55
  and
• 21:57
  Well, surely, it gets better from there. Right?
• 22:00
  No.
• 22:01
  So of, from there, band started dropping off,
• 22:05
  left and right and not just like a
• 22:08
  small band that couldn't make it, like, the
• 22:10
  headline,
• 22:12
  lots of the well known bands and
• 22:15
  a theme throughout a lot of this is
• 22:17
  we don't know what's happening or it's been
• 22:20
  communicated to us that we're not gonna be
• 22:21
  able to play.
• 22:23
  So through various means and this was a
• 22:25
  lot easier when bans, like, used to have
• 22:27
  websites or everyone was just on my myspace.
• 22:29
  Now it's kind of spread out across.
• 22:32
  You have to be on Facebook or Instagram
• 22:34
  or on Tiktok or just hope you see
• 22:36
  someone else posting about it. Yeah. But I
• 22:39
  was able to grab a bunch of difference
• 22:41
  screenshots are dancing there dropping off.
• 22:44
  Ali asana, who I was reminded that the
• 22:47
  1 time we talked about them was about
• 22:49
  3 years ago. When they got trouble for,
• 22:52
  playing shows while having Covid and looking for
• 22:56
  venues that had loose Covid policy.
• 23:00
  But I guess Long Covid hasn't gotten them,
• 23:02
  so they're still playing shows and they posted
• 23:05
  to our fans who plan to attend Ke
• 23:07
  fest Sunday Sadly, we will lap playing this
• 23:09
  weekend. As I'm sure, many, if not all
• 23:11
  of you know by now, the festival is
• 23:13
  not taking place as intended. It is not
• 23:15
  our responsibility or intent to place blame or
• 23:17
  throw anyone under to the bus. So you'll
• 23:19
  simply state that due to circumstances beyond their
• 23:22
  control, our performance will not take place as
• 23:24
  promise
• 23:25
  to us or intended for you We hope
• 23:27
  to 1 day, make it up to you
• 23:29
  and when we play, go back in Connecticut
• 23:30
  blah.
• 23:33
  Cold dropped off. M.
• 23:35
  They're like the odd band app, them in
• 23:37
  Tap root. Yeah.
• 23:39
  Unfortunately, Ko will no longer be playing the
• 23:41
  Calculate festival, Keeping fans of the event in
• 23:43
  the dark is not okay with us. And
• 23:45
  we just wanted to give everyone a heads
• 23:46
  up. Love you all so much. Sorry that
• 23:48
  this had that this has happened.
• 23:51
  Gideon said, due to unforeseen challenges with cap
• 23:55
  this weekend and Gideon will no longer be
• 23:57
  appearing at the festival on Saturday, June 29.
• 23:59
  Subsequently in the show Str, they've canceled other
• 24:02
  those too because of this. It's like, why
• 24:04
  hit the road if we're not going to,
• 24:06
  specific destinations. That makes sense. There's that. Horizon
• 24:09
  theory. We will not be playing capital as
• 24:11
  those weekend, we apologize for the inconvenience.
• 24:14
  Good news we have new music coming out.
• 24:17
  In impending doom, due to unforeseen challenges of
• 24:20
  Capital This weekend In impending deal when the
• 24:22
  longer be appearing at the festival on Saturday,
• 24:24
  June 20 ninth, we apologize to our fans
• 24:26
  that we're looking forward to seeing us this
• 24:28
  weekend. We go back New England as soon
• 24:30
  as we can.
• 24:32
  What else? Letter kills to our fans who
• 24:34
  plan to attend Cap life. The Sunday, we
• 24:36
  are sorry to announce that we will no
• 24:37
  longer be performed this weekend.
• 24:39
  Due to circumstances regarding this festival and changes
• 24:42
  outside of our control, the set and experience
• 24:44
  that we expected is no longer able to
• 24:47
  be performed as intended for you. We're deeply
• 24:49
  sorry for any changes to the festival that
• 24:51
  have impacted you. We hope to make it
• 24:53
  up to you
• 24:55
  in full force as the opportunity comes.
• 24:58
  Like way says, for reasons out of our
• 25:00
  control, we will...
• 25:02
  Which will become apparent soon.
• 25:04
  Okay.
• 25:05
  We are letting our family friends and fans
• 25:07
  know, that we have withdrawn from Capital at
• 25:09
  Fast we announce some more information in the
• 25:10
  coming days. Apologize for any inconvenience this is
• 25:13
  caused.
• 25:14
  Oh But the most part, there's a very
• 25:16
  P speak,
• 25:17
  tone to all of us, like,
• 25:19
  you know,
• 25:21
  the circumstances,
• 25:22
  which
• 25:23
  you know, tactically prevented us from performing the
• 25:27
  aforementioned contracted
• 25:28
  program will not be happening. So far nobody's
• 25:31
  like this fucking sucks. This guy's is an
• 25:32
  asshole.
• 25:34
  Yeah. It's a lot of do the unforeseen
• 25:36
  events and thing like that, Like, I you
• 25:38
  know. It's nice that some bands are trying
• 25:40
  to be diplomatic about it. I did see
• 25:43
  Tap rooted posted a live,
• 25:46
  real or whatever to Instagram. They were in...
• 25:51
  New Hampshire on a beach and, like, you
• 25:53
  know, people talk to you when you're posting
• 25:55
  live and some someone said something and
• 25:58
  Tap was like, yeah, We have no idea
• 26:00
  what's going on. So we're just hanging out
• 26:01
  at the beach until we hear.
• 26:03
  But was the how was the New Hampshire
• 26:05
  beach?
• 26:06
  Cold and gray and say. Okay. That's kind
• 26:09
  of what I picture in my mind's eye.
• 26:12
  But nothing more had a little bit more
• 26:14
  to say, than some of these other bands.
• 26:17
  To our fans who are planning on attending
• 26:19
  capital at first. Despite our best efforts, we...
• 26:22
  We unfortunately,
• 26:23
  we won't be playing the show. The abandon
• 26:25
  on our crew. We're all in Nashville rehearsing
• 26:28
  when we got the news that the promoter
• 26:30
  has lost access the venue. Cap Fest was
• 26:33
  able to find an alternate location for Friday
• 26:35
  and Saturday, but not for Sunday when we
• 26:37
  were scheduled to play.
• 26:39
  Earlier today, we were sent to proposal statement
• 26:41
  from the festival that was a blatant attempt
• 26:43
  to minimize
• 26:45
  minimize the responsibility
• 26:47
  for the situation and even more egregious than
• 26:50
  that and offer no solutions for refunds for
• 26:53
  people who bought single day tickets for Sunday
• 26:56
  nor did it offer refunds for people that
• 26:59
  bought Vip meeting greet tickets through the capital
• 27:02
  at Fest website. This is simply an unacceptable
• 27:05
  way of doing business, and we have lost
• 27:07
  all respect for the way they are handling
• 27:09
  the situation.
• 27:11
  Well, we may have lost tens of thousands
• 27:13
  of dollars in crew costs, flights, etcetera.
• 27:16
  This is nothing compared to a fan losing
• 27:18
  their harder and money. They spend tickets.
• 27:21
  Spent on tickets to see a show and
• 27:23
  have a great time with friends and family.
• 27:27
  It continues. We will continue to apply pressure,
• 27:30
  a promoter to do the right thing and
• 27:32
  hope that we you will join us in
• 27:34
  pursuing the festival issue refunds to all those
• 27:36
  who deserve them. We are sorry to have
• 27:38
  such bad news on on the eve of
• 27:40
  releasing
• 27:41
  our new Album, and we look forward to
• 27:42
  seeing you as soon as possible.
• 27:44
  So they're definitely getting a little bit weight
• 27:48
  with all of this stuff, but that is
• 27:50
  that's pretty wild though you
• 27:52
  lose...
• 27:54
  Quote unquote lose access to A venue, I
• 27:56
  guess, because you didn't pay for it.
• 27:58
  And then chop off 1 third of a
• 28:01
  festival
• 28:02
  with no
• 28:03
  intention of refund people who bought,
• 28:07
  day passes for that third day.
• 28:10
  Right. So it's not offering any sort of
• 28:13
  refunds or
• 28:14
  recoup losses, not just for fans, but for,
• 28:17
  like, the v vip stuff, the meet and
• 28:19
  greet stuff, parking,
• 28:21
  camping,
• 28:22
  and a lot of vendors
• 28:24
  we're out a lot of money because you
• 28:26
  go from a festival setting too...
• 28:28
  Again, this is in a city.
• 28:30
  There's a tiny fence in parking lot,
• 28:34
  which was probably mostly reserved for any bands
• 28:36
  and vans
• 28:37
  and buses that may have come in and
• 28:40
  maybe they're giving Vip
• 28:42
  ticket holder,
• 28:44
  like, some parking spaces there. And then a
• 28:45
  street parking, it's just like, where do you
• 28:47
  set up
• 28:48
  your tents to sell your...
• 28:51
  There's your hemp hats and your hack sacks.
• 28:54
  Apparently, someone was selling vintage porn too. So,
• 28:57
  you know, you... Set up on the sidewalk,
• 28:59
  I guess, maybe there's some space in the
• 29:01
  back. They're selling vintage porn at the fucking
• 29:05
  Christian Metal corvette.
• 29:06
  Yes. And a lot of people were pointing
• 29:08
  at the irony at that. Okay. Alright. That's
• 29:10
  a odd thing to do. But you know
• 29:12
  what? I'm not in charge of anybody's life.
• 29:14
  And I did also see they had her
• 29:16
  It was called heart support, which I had
• 29:18
  to look up. It was
• 29:20
  the charity by 1 of the guys from
• 29:23
  August Burns red that
• 29:25
  was like, I don't know.
• 29:27
  You're a depressed teenager, give yourself to Jesus
• 29:29
  type stuff.
• 29:31
  So they were there too and just other
• 29:33
  people are hacking their ware. But as,
• 29:35
  1 of the vendors pointed out,
• 29:38
  they paid something like 800 dollars
• 29:40
  in fees to
• 29:42
  be able to sell their stuff at this
• 29:44
  festival plus if you're selling food, you have
• 29:46
  to pay some sort of state health,
• 29:49
  official licensing.
• 29:50
  So they're out
• 29:52
  close to a thousand dollars. And,
• 29:54
  you know, for a festival, Reporting to have
• 29:56
  thousands of people show up.
• 29:58
  I believe the cap for Webster theater is
• 30:00
  1200 people.
• 30:02
  Sold out in the main room and the
• 30:04
  small room can hold, like, a hundred and
• 30:05
  50 to 200 people.
• 30:07
  They didn't get those numbers, you know, obviously,
• 30:10
  for any reasons.
• 30:11
  So you're just out
• 30:13
  tons of money, not including gas and
• 30:16
  travel. And if you need to stay at
• 30:18
  a hotel, and you're gonna be there all
• 30:19
  3 days. So so just
• 30:22
  everyone involved in this. Lost so much money.
• 30:25
  So much money and time and effort and
• 30:29
  practice and
• 30:30
  the thing that I've come to learn is
• 30:32
  these smaller bands on the bill
• 30:35
  weren't just local bands.
• 30:37
  Really?
• 30:38
  Some bands were coming
• 30:40
  as far as Florida. Oh my flavor festival.
• 30:44
  Oh my god.
• 30:47
  So
• 30:48
  you gotta assume, like, if you're you're probably
• 30:50
  flying for that. Right? You know, if you're
• 30:52
  not on, like, a full tour, you're flying
• 30:54
  for that.
• 30:55
  That's...
• 30:56
  Many thousands of dollars launching.
• 31:00
  Taking leave at your job for these days,
• 31:02
  those vacation days, you're not getting back just
• 31:05
  overall shitting the bed to the tune of
• 31:07
  maybe 10 grand
• 31:10
  to play in front of
• 31:12
  50 people. Yeah. A hundred and 50 people
• 31:15
  who don't who you are, and they're just
• 31:16
  like, yeah. This is music that's in front
• 31:18
  of me.
• 31:19
  Well, that's a pretty pretty egregious wasted money.
• 31:23
  That's that's not good. Don't like that.
• 31:26
  And there was 1 of these bands, they're
• 31:28
  called Live kill or Live kill.
• 31:31
  We're supposed to play the second stage.
• 31:34
  Got 2 songs into their set, and then
• 31:36
  the show at least on the second stage
• 31:39
  or was shut down by security, and they
• 31:41
  went on Instagram and posted a video of
• 31:43
  them explaining what had happened.
• 31:45
  So what did what did they say happened
• 31:47
  here?
• 31:48
  They were claiming that the... After 2 songs,
• 31:51
  they're set with shut down by security and
• 31:53
  people started being
• 31:55
  pushed, and I'm not saying be literal about
• 31:57
  it. We're getting moved out of the room
• 31:58
  to the main room
• 32:00
  because
• 32:01
  security had not been paid
• 32:03
  to watch this room and there was some
• 32:05
  other event coming up.
• 32:08
  Oh my god. So you rinse it out.
• 32:12
  Security for the main room, but not the
• 32:14
  side room. That's
• 32:17
  that's a pretty big mistake. I would say,
• 32:18
  especially since you're relying on a bunch of
• 32:20
  these smaller bands, to keep the the festival
• 32:22
  floating through. Right?
• 32:24
  You would think, but it gets even worse
• 32:28
  because
• 32:29
  to Apparently,
• 32:31
  some of these smaller bands, and I don't
• 32:32
  know which ones they were,
• 32:35
  paid
• 32:36
  up to 3000
• 32:39
  dollars
• 32:39
  to get on this festival.
• 32:43
  Okay.
• 32:44
  So let me back up a bit.
• 32:47
  There are bands that reported to pay
• 32:51
  3000
• 32:52
  dollars for the privilege
• 32:54
  of traveling to
• 32:57
  middle of nowhere,
• 32:58
  New England
• 33:00
  to
• 33:01
  open up for,
• 33:03
  Gideon.
• 33:04
  Is is that what you're saying?
• 33:06
  They was a post from another Florida ban
• 33:09
  which really makes me wonder their how this
• 33:10
  all happen like, is this some sort of
• 33:13
  Christian rock network
• 33:14
  that bans are asked to play this, but
• 33:16
  a band called Penny Fountain, which is...
• 33:19
  A pop punk ban, and the members appear
• 33:21
  to be, like, 17 years old.
• 33:24
  We almost had to pay 3000 dollars to
• 33:26
  get an opening slot on this fast. Thank
• 33:29
  God we didn't go through with it. Our
• 33:31
  hearts go out to all the people who
• 33:33
  bought tickets.
• 33:35
  Okay. So if you are band
• 33:39
  and you somehow
• 33:41
  come across 3000 dollars.
• 33:45
  Let's let's talk about some of the ways
• 33:46
  to make the most out of that money.
• 33:51
  Number 1 mutual fund.
• 33:53
  Put it in the bank and never touch
• 33:55
  it. Yeah.
• 33:57
  Let's say for the sake of argument that
• 34:00
  you want to waste 3000 dollars your band.
• 34:03
  I can't recommend it, but you want to,
• 34:07
  paying to play
• 34:09
  for an opening slot on on this no
• 34:11
  name festival is probably gotta be,
• 34:14
  like, ranked,
• 34:16
  literally the lowest possible use of your money.
• 34:18
  Right?
• 34:19
  Yeah. If you wanted to keep it towards
• 34:21
  the band, that's
• 34:22
  either repairs or a purchase of a van,
• 34:26
  some sort of vehicle to get you on
• 34:27
  a tour.
• 34:29
  Merchandise. Yeah. Studio time, Yeah. Better equipment,
• 34:33
  even just advertising. I would honestly say that
• 34:36
  money would be better spent, getting an ad
• 34:39
  in like, dis magazine or...
• 34:42
  I mean, even
• 34:43
  g is paying spotify to force your music
• 34:46
  into people's feeds.
• 34:48
  That would have been better than playing this
• 34:50
  sort of thing because, like all these big
• 34:52
  festivals, the show starts at, like,
• 34:55
  1 in the afternoon.
• 34:57
  And no one's going there to see you.
• 34:59
  They're going there to see the 3 headline
• 35:00
  liners they've heard of, and maybe some of
• 35:02
  the 2 or 3 of the other bands
• 35:04
  right underneath them there... Most people that aren't
• 35:06
  playing or aren't doing anything involved if it
• 35:09
  don't want to see you.
• 35:13
  Overall, very, very foolish.
• 35:16
  I'm glad that these guys
• 35:17
  that did not pay the 3000 dollars I
• 35:20
  will say shame on you for even considering
• 35:22
  it.
• 35:23
  Yeah. It's this is what we've always said
• 35:25
  about the pay to play games It prey
• 35:26
  on the young and the stupid. But Yeah.
• 35:28
  And you know, I've even seen... There is
• 35:31
  a Facebook group
• 35:33
  for all of this.
• 35:35
  Victims of cap at fest 20 24,
• 35:38
  that people have been posting in throughout the
• 35:41
  weekend, which has been just a great resource.
• 35:43
  Victims for people attending, bands playing vendors.
• 35:46
  And this has made it to, like, local
• 35:49
  news.
• 35:50
  Tv news is not even no know catch
• 35:52
  webs site, and they've reporting on it and
• 35:54
  reporters are now in the group saying, hey
• 35:57
  if, you know, you're supposed to attend, please
• 35:59
  drop me line, and we're gonna keep reporting
• 36:00
  about this. So site This has gone beyond
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  and even the medal blog is here. This
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  Deborah Hoo coming to you live from WKUZ,
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  where we're covering
• 36:17
  the flame out of pay to play, disaster
• 36:20
  capital, first 20 24.
• 36:22
  Yeah. And and it's... It wasn't even a
• 36:23
  1 day thing, like, a festival has moved,
• 36:25
  and, you know, some people are upset, and
• 36:27
  we interviewed the person behind it. It is...
• 36:29
  Now a multi day news story because it's...
• 36:32
  It keeps falling apart.
• 36:34
  So I guess the first thing that comes
• 36:37
  to mind here because
• 36:39
  you know, I guess, I'm kind of a
• 36:40
  shady guy or whatever.
• 36:42
  Seems like, you know, this was a disaster.
• 36:44
  You this this guy putting it all together.
• 36:48
  Wasted a lot of time and money for
• 36:49
  a lot of people, but it sounds like
• 36:51
  he probably got away with a fat stack
• 36:53
  this. Right?
• 36:55
  Well, apparently he's been showing up every day
• 36:56
  to this festival, and no 1 has assaulted
• 36:58
  him yet. So... See. This is this is
• 37:01
  what, you know, the right wing is talking
• 37:02
  about the about the simplification of culture.
• 37:06
  I guess peep people were turning the other
• 37:08
  cheek.
• 37:09
  See, that's that's your problem right there.
• 37:13
  Yeah. You need a sweaty groove metal band
• 37:16
  to come find this guy and demand their
• 37:18
  2500
• 37:19
  dollars back.
• 37:21
  I,
• 37:22
  again, I can't believe that he has the
• 37:25
  gum to show his face, and then, apparently,
• 37:27
  none of you have the gum to do
• 37:28
  the right thing here, but
• 37:31
  I I were this man, I would
• 37:33
  lie man my way straight across the country.
• 37:37
  And it's just like, all the bad communication
• 37:39
  or lack of communication, all the way up
• 37:42
  to some of the biggest bands playing with
• 37:44
  this is just...
• 37:46
  Really over the top. I know you're trying
• 37:48
  to like, cover your ass so you don't
• 37:49
  get sued with fans their man, but even
• 37:51
  the bands, not knowing what's going on, like
• 37:53
  Tap posted. We are sorry to announce We
• 37:56
  will not be performing tomorrow Connecticut.
• 37:58
  We are not sure what is going on
• 38:00
  with the show, and that's not for us
• 38:02
  to discuss. But we're just as in the
• 38:04
  dark as everyone else as we've pretty much
• 38:06
  have been this whole time.
• 38:08
  We did everything in our power to make
• 38:10
  it work and through it all. We only
• 38:11
  tried to stick it out for the fans.
• 38:13
  Who we knew already bought tickets, had travel
• 38:16
  raymond, etcetera,
• 38:18
  our friend Lacy Stu, who we were looking
• 38:20
  forward to playing with, and for the other
• 38:22
  bands who sold tickets to play. Oh
• 38:26
  That's right.
• 38:27
  Bands were selling tickets for this.
• 38:30
  Man. Okay. I... Like, I realized that nobody
• 38:33
  who
• 38:34
  listens to our show would ever be in
• 38:36
  the demographic of these...
• 38:38
  Moron veronica,
• 38:40
  metal core bands,
• 38:41
  you know, trying to to get on the
• 38:42
  festivals man. It really cannot be stated enough
• 38:45
  that you are a massive sucker if you
• 38:46
  ever pay know, pay to play for a
• 38:48
  show, selling tickets,
• 38:50
  suck as game.
• 38:51
  Yeah. And I've been seeing just other people
• 38:54
  talk about this, and there been people defending,
• 38:56
  you not just the festival itself
• 38:59
  for whatever reason, but just the practice of
• 39:02
  selling tickets and, like, well, it's not paid
• 39:03
  to play. You were being asked to sell
• 39:05
  tickets. It's like, That's what pay to play
• 39:07
  is. That's the scam.
• 39:09
  Yep. That is the scheme and you... A
• 39:11
  lot of you are learning this in real
• 39:13
  time in the worst possible way.
• 39:15
  I guess,
• 39:17
  if you wanna bypass selling tickets, you know,
• 39:19
  you could just write the guy check for
• 39:21
  3 grand.
• 39:23
  Yeah. That's the easy way. And I have
• 39:25
  known bands to do not to that level,
• 39:27
  but just to be, like, yeah, Here's 200
• 39:30
  dollars. We're not gonna sell any tickets, just
• 39:32
  put us on your show.
• 39:34
  Not a great use of money or time,
• 39:36
  either 1.
• 39:37
  Poorly poorly planned out. Instead, you could take
• 39:40
  that 200 dollars and ripped the V haul.
• 39:44
  And have a better time and less stress
• 39:45
  and more people will probably show up. I
• 39:48
  guarantee you anybody who wants to go see
• 39:50
  Mike's dead does not give a shit about
• 39:52
  your band. Not happening. And we've seen pictures
• 39:55
  throughout the weekend of people at the fest,
• 39:58
  and there's been... You know, we're here at
• 40:00
  01:30.
• 40:01
  Here's a picture of the main stage and
• 40:02
  there's 20 people there. Yep. And as it
• 40:05
  gets later in the day and, like, the
• 40:06
  couple of headline liners that are there, like,
• 40:09
  yes, the room filled out to
• 40:11
  you know, 600 people. So it felt like
• 40:13
  a real concert, but it's a far cry
• 40:15
  from what was supposed to happen.
• 40:17
  It's also a real eye opener for me
• 40:18
  and probably for you and everyone else that
• 40:21
  there are people out there that are really
• 40:22
  excited to see skillet and red.
• 40:26
  Again, I I have for left those spaces
• 40:29
  about 20 years ago, maybe more now. So
• 40:33
  I don't have to associate with anybody that,
• 40:35
  you know,
• 40:37
  goes to a mega church or has an
• 40:40
  imp
• 40:41
  go... Maintained Goatee. Those are things that are
• 40:43
  outside of my purview now. Yeah. It's it's
• 40:45
  1 of those things where, like, yes, Of
• 40:47
  course, they have fans. I just never have
• 40:49
  ever run into any of them. Mh. It's
• 40:52
  the same as, yes. There are Christian...
• 40:54
  Preacher radio stations all across the country that
• 40:58
  are airing 24 hours a day, and I
• 41:00
  assume someone listens to them, but I not
• 41:02
  1 of them. No and I know is
• 41:03
  1 of the... Them. Surely someone out there
• 41:06
  does. And
• 41:07
  apparently, these people do. And this is what
• 41:09
  they love and they're willing to spend hundreds
• 41:11
  of dollars them to meet the basis from
• 41:13
  the Way,
• 41:15
  insane to me.
• 41:16
  Also unrelated, but kind of related.
• 41:19
  I was thinking about this other day when
• 41:20
  I was, you know, to Oh, I was
• 41:22
  walking
• 41:23
  through the park, and a lot of the
• 41:25
  the old folks in the park like to
• 41:26
  listen to the radio, you know, without headphones
• 41:29
  on.
• 41:30
  And they're listening to, you know, like, the
• 41:32
  local, you know, 89.2
• 41:34
  gospel fm or whatever.
• 41:37
  So there is an audience for radio still,
• 41:39
  of course. It's just different. I was wondering
• 41:41
  how much would it cost to buy, like,
• 41:42
  a low bandwidth
• 41:43
  radio station you think or, like, you know,
• 41:46
  rent rent that bandwidth for a bit I
• 41:49
  think the it's all it's all gonna be
• 41:51
  tax exempt.
• 41:52
  Is it?
• 41:54
  Religious radio.
• 41:56
  See,
• 41:56
  this is this is what I'm getting at.
• 41:58
  We can we can start our start her
• 42:00
  around underground,
• 42:02
  heavy metal low band with Radio station and
• 42:04
  just say that it for the lord. I
• 42:06
  mean, who's gonna who's gonna know the difference
• 42:08
  between
• 42:09
  impending doom and the acacia strain anyway. It's
• 42:12
  It will will start our own church that's
• 42:14
  run out of an abandoned
• 42:17
  blockbuster video store,
• 42:18
  and we'll just set up a card table
• 42:20
  with 2 microphone. Owns and just blasting some
• 42:24
  blast from this music
• 42:25
  for the Lord. I mean, I think
• 42:28
  honestly,
• 42:29
  there are worse uses of our time and
• 42:30
  money.
• 42:31
  Oh
• 42:32
  Anyway still get 1 of those crazy powerful
• 42:35
  towers that these to have where farmers could
• 42:37
  pick up radio stations on their barb wire.
• 42:42
  See, this is something that,
• 42:45
  like, you know, we have that patron money.
• 42:47
  This is this is maybe the use for
• 42:48
  it.
• 42:50
  No college fun and no emergency surgery money,
• 42:53
  now, giving back to the community, just a
• 42:55
  pirate radio station? Yes. That's it... No. That
• 42:58
  is in my mind, that is getting back
• 42:59
  to the community.
• 43:02
  Or we get 1 of these festivals and
• 43:04
  we pay the 3000 dollars to get on
• 43:06
  and just, you know... Make burp noises and
• 43:08
  get up on parts. Yeah. I get up
• 43:10
  on stage and basically do insult comedy at
• 43:13
  the crowd for an hour.
• 43:14
  You do it Don Rick said don't know
• 43:17
  it's a joke. Can you're just really offend
• 43:19
  people?
• 43:21
  Hey, Tub. This guy has a even lost.
• 43:25
  How how are you feeling in there ice
• 43:27
  cream, You're good. You're comfortable and you just
• 43:29
  shake their belly.
• 43:32
  Just saying that we do have options of
• 43:33
  to us now since we've been doing patreon
• 43:35
  dot com slash toilet of hell, where you
• 43:37
  can get bonus episodes, for just a few
• 43:39
  dollars a month, including,
• 43:42
  lovingly
• 43:43
  available curated mix tapes,
• 43:45
  fitting themes that of whatever wild hair hit
• 43:48
  hits my ass that month.
• 43:50
  I... I'm putting the the new episode today
• 43:52
  by the way. The the day that we're
• 43:54
  recording this will be out.
• 43:56
  By the time this episode goes live. So,
• 43:58
  hey, There's another episode of, like, a hundred
• 44:00
  and 50. Bonus episodes over there that you
• 44:02
  can get for 5 dollars a month. Give
• 44:04
  us money. Give us money, give us money.
• 44:06
  Got. Moving on, I did get 1 more
• 44:10
  That I just thought it's funny to read.
• 44:11
  This is,
• 44:13
  un
• 44:14
  or
• 44:15
  who knows where it's from, but it's been
• 44:17
  shared around green private messaging.
• 44:20
  Promoter is a total
• 44:22
  unprofessional knob who didn't have insurance so the
• 44:24
  Speedway backed out, He didn't pay the stage
• 44:27
  crew so they left with their outdoor stage.
• 44:29
  And he's was trying to book it at
• 44:31
  a function haul now without any money and
• 44:33
  essentially begging people.
• 44:35
  Part of the festival for money slash loans
• 44:37
  to save it and try to book it
• 44:38
  in Hartford when everything is booked solid and
• 44:41
  patrons, bands, pro photographers, which I've also seen
• 44:44
  a lot of photographers
• 44:45
  saying that they were no longer gonna going
• 44:47
  to go to the show because there is
• 44:49
  no
• 44:50
  photography area. Mh. It's just a a regular
• 44:53
  venue. And, like, they didn't want their thousands
• 44:55
  of dollars worth of equipment to get knocked
• 44:58
  into or kicked or whatever.
• 45:00
  And professionals of other fields are now traveling
• 45:03
  over 8 hours
• 45:04
  for no reason and bands are now dropping
• 45:07
  off. And before band started dropping vendors, we're
• 45:10
  dropping a backing gap. It's a mess, and
• 45:12
  it's in the hands of the people running
• 45:13
  it.
• 45:14
  So where does that all league?
• 45:16
  They had a half ass show on Saturday.
• 45:19
  They had a half ass show on Sunday.
• 45:21
  On,
• 45:22
  on Friday and Saturday. And on Sunday,
• 45:25
  lots of rumors have been going around over
• 45:27
  the weekend. Like, sunday is gonna be canceled.
• 45:29
  It's gonna be canceled, and there were no...
• 45:31
  There's no announcement.
• 45:33
  And apparently, 11:06
• 45:34
  Saturday night,
• 45:36
  capital at Fed's posts on Facebook.
• 45:38
  Sunday is no longer an option. Oh, I
• 45:41
  got out ahead of it. Yeah.
• 45:44
  Waiting till everyone had already left and we're
• 45:46
  happy about. The show they just attended
• 45:49
  or, you know, we're asleep. Sunday is no
• 45:51
  longer an option. We fought... We wrestled with
• 45:54
  obstacle after obstacle. We became a target. We
• 45:57
  became hated
• 45:58
  even when we were doing our best to
• 46:00
  save something and give you the best show
• 46:02
  possible.
• 46:04
  No 1 sees is the sacrifice.
• 46:06
  All they do is judge.
• 46:09
  We did everything we could.
• 46:11
  We hope you had fun.
• 46:13
  We did our best.
• 46:14
  Thank you to everyone who came out and
• 46:17
  had a blast. We hope you enjoyed the
• 46:19
  meet and greet.
• 46:20
  We hope you enjoy the music.
• 46:23
  Goodbye.
• 46:24
  Man, I love this, like, this guy fucking
• 46:26
  throwing himself on the cross. Like, nobody understands
• 46:30
  my struggles. Like, you you gladly took thousands
• 46:34
  of from people, and somehow managed to piss
• 46:37
  it all away. Like, this is a money
• 46:39
  sync for everybody. If you were like, 1
• 46:41
  percent
• 46:42
  more qualified as a human, you could have
• 46:44
  at least made a bag
• 46:46
  scamming.
• 46:47
  You're not even good enough for that.
• 46:49
  Yeah. I I think,
• 46:50
  you know, being on... I've booked shows. I've
• 46:52
  booked the festival. There's a million things I
• 46:55
  can go wrong. And so much of it
• 46:57
  is just out of your control. Like, it's
• 46:59
  an at outdoor festival, and it's now 45
• 47:01
  degrees out, and it's gonna rain all day.
• 47:03
  Yeah. You can't do anything about it Had
• 47:06
  ins, it sucks you make the best out
• 47:07
  of it. You know what you can do?
• 47:09
  Buy insurance.
• 47:11
  Or you know, happens if you just apologize,
• 47:14
  and if you worked with people,
• 47:16
  and you offered refunds,
• 47:19
  we'll do anything we can. For those that
• 47:21
  can make it. I'm sorry this happened.
• 47:24
  We are going to have an alternate venue,
• 47:27
  if you can make it, we will make
• 47:29
  things right. That goes a long way.
• 47:31
  That will play k people, and people understand,
• 47:35
  like, it happens. Bad things happen. It's unfortunate.
• 47:38
  But not talking to
• 47:41
  hundreds and hundreds of people and communicating what's
• 47:43
  happening.
• 47:44
  Band's dropping off, but it not being announced
• 47:47
  until the a day up or even while
• 47:48
  stuff going on, band's not knowing what's happening,
• 47:51
  just everyone is left out in the church
• 47:54
  and
• 47:55
  to
• 47:56
  come out of and be like, well, we
• 47:57
  did our best, and now we have haters.
• 47:59
  It's the haters that are the problem. Yep.
• 48:02
  You know, other people hated some other guy
• 48:04
  and his name was Jesus. And that's like.
• 48:07
  It's just like, that's... You're going about it
• 48:09
  all the wrong way, and
• 48:11
  people will remember it, They're people who have
• 48:14
  been fighting with their credit card companies all
• 48:16
  weekend trying to get the money back. People
• 48:19
  who have used V to pay local ban
• 48:23
  for their tickets and they're now not getting
• 48:24
  their money back.
• 48:26
  All this stuff that, like, you can't even
• 48:27
  get money back because it's done it already
• 48:29
  happened its past. So that's until, like, not
• 48:32
  get any sort of rec or
• 48:34
  assurance or
• 48:36
  we have another show coming up, bring your
• 48:38
  ticket, you will get in for free something
• 48:40
  like, that is not even happening. And to
• 48:42
  the point where another festival that's happening in
• 48:44
  massachusetts Rpm fest has been in the comments
• 48:47
  saying, hey, if you bought a ticket
• 48:49
  you can get half off on Rpm fest
• 48:52
  to take it, just show your ticket for
• 48:54
  this thing and we'll cut you a deal.
• 48:56
  I mean, honestly
• 48:57
  smart on those guys. Yeah Yeah. That is
• 48:59
  better business acumen and better communication than this
• 49:02
  entire fast. Yeah.
• 49:05
  Yeah I we need to keep tabs on
• 49:08
  this guy. I wanna see if he tries
• 49:10
  to do anything,
• 49:11
  if you ever tries to put on a
• 49:13
  show ever again.
• 49:15
  Not under this name. It's not possible. Yeah.
• 49:17
  I I... You
• 49:19
  he he fucked it up pretty bad. Pretty
• 49:21
  pretty bad. What... And what gets me is
• 49:23
  that, again,
• 49:25
  so much money moved around
• 49:27
  for nothing.
• 49:28
  Like, it all went to, like, a hotel
• 49:32
  that like, probably didn't even, like, you know,
• 49:34
  have somebody stay in the room or a
• 49:36
  flight you know, that nobody wanted to get
• 49:39
  on. Just, money pissed away every single angle.
• 49:43
  Real stupid. Real fucking stupid style.
• 49:47
  For a scheme that's meant to make you
• 49:49
  lots of money. Rights.
• 49:51
  Man.
• 49:53
  Like, maybe all them... They had no plan
• 49:55
  and all the money was just going to
• 49:56
  as couple of headline liners. So they were
• 49:59
  paid like,
• 50:00
  skillet played. I assume they're check had cleared
• 50:02
  already, and the money that was
• 50:05
  earned or raised from charging these other bands
• 50:08
  and these other vendors,
• 50:09
  that all was just going into the headline
• 50:12
  pockets because that's a, a theme for a
• 50:14
  lot of these festivals is to cover your
• 50:16
  ass for the real people. Yeah. The rest
• 50:18
  of the money is if there's leftover over,
• 50:20
  it just goes into your pocket or wherever,
• 50:22
  you know, paying the venue and then your
• 50:24
  pocket. And Yeah. I I guess that's
• 50:28
  I guess that's the case, man.
• 50:30
  So the only person who...
• 50:32
  Made a dime off was, like lacy Dear
• 50:35
  s.
• 50:40
  Well, good for them, I guess. That's that's
• 50:42
  really your goal
• 50:43
  as a musician is to, you know, work
• 50:45
  your way up enough.
• 50:47
  You know, grinding it out, playing bad shows
• 50:49
  until you eventually can just pocket money and
• 50:51
  not even that's play a fast.
• 50:53
  Yeah, you get paid, you you player, you
• 50:55
  don't or if you complain about it, enough
• 50:57
  people will actually care about it for something
• 50:59
  to happen. Yep.
• 51:01
  So
• 51:02
  that's that's the goal. That's why we all
• 51:04
  do this
• 51:06
  or if
• 51:07
  so good good on good on them, I
• 51:09
  guess.
• 51:10
  And everyone's making jokes now like, oh, let's
• 51:12
  make Mont you fast. There are no cap.
• 51:14
  You laugh Yeah.
• 51:16
  Mh.
• 51:17
  Any way to entertain yourselves, I suppose?
• 51:21
  I mean,
• 51:22
  you gotta laugh. Right?
• 51:24
  Yeah You can laugh because you're not involved
• 51:26
  in it. Yeah. Absolutely. No. Thankfully. We gotta
• 51:29
  get guy was in a band or Had
• 51:30
  pay tickets. I'd be furious.
• 51:32
  I was same. We do need to get
• 51:34
  that guy on, who who went into that
• 51:36
  to pay to play festival that had, like,
• 51:38
  3 people in attendance. I wanna hear about
• 51:40
  that too after hearing about this disaster. Because
• 51:42
  it sounds like at least the the other
• 51:44
  festival got off without a hitch despite the
• 51:46
  fact that nobody paid to go. So
• 51:49
  Yes. That was an actual functional festival. No
• 51:51
  1 was there, but bands played.
• 51:54
  It's technically it all worked out.
• 51:58
  And so a lot of people are saying
• 51:59
  Fire Festival Bluer ridge Rock festival.
• 52:03
  Like I said, I do not expect to
• 52:04
  ever hear about at least... Under this name
• 52:06
  ever again, if he had any sense, he
• 52:09
  would move away and never be heard from
• 52:10
  again. Yep. Yep. That's probably the right move
• 52:13
  here. Because at least in the past, and
• 52:14
  when you had a festival that went shitty,
• 52:17
  like, there was no social media and you
• 52:20
  weren't in the face of this thing. Like
• 52:21
  doing videos and using your real name, you
• 52:24
  get at least hide in obscurity and wait
• 52:26
  for people to forget about it. Now for
• 52:28
  now, and that in this day, age where
• 52:30
  people know your name, know your voice, know
• 52:32
  what you look like and can easily find
• 52:34
  out where you work and live.
• 52:36
  Yeah.
• 52:38
  So age Grow mustache,
• 52:40
  change your name.
• 52:42
  Move to a different city,
• 52:44
  start a new Facebook profile, all these things.
• 52:49
  Anyway,
• 52:50
  I
• 52:52
  I have no desire to ever put on
• 52:53
  a festival after reading through all those steel.
• 52:55
  It's...
• 52:56
  A million percent not worth it. Even the
• 52:58
  big ones you see all the problems that
• 53:00
  they have. I mean, blue Ridge rock festival.
• 53:02
  Again, you could not have more money in
• 53:05
  clout behind that. And you see how that
• 53:07
  went.
• 53:08
  So just all the bands playing that festival
• 53:10
  and it's fallen apart multiple years. So really
• 53:14
  unless you have a legitimate
• 53:16
  corporation at this point
• 53:18
  with smart people who have lots of experience
• 53:21
  behind it and an insane amount of capital
• 53:24
  it's really hard to do this sort of
• 53:26
  thing. Yeah. You gotta have,
• 53:29
  you, you gotta have the heart machine at
• 53:31
  work.
• 53:33
  Or have enough sense to, like, hire lawyers
• 53:36
  who do this stuff professionally that could save
• 53:38
  your ass. Yeah. That too. That would probably
• 53:40
  help a lot.
• 53:41
  And maybe getting good with the state of
• 53:43
  attorney any general.
• 53:44
  Couldn't hurt couldn't hurt that either.
• 53:47
  Just in case you accidentally kill a guy,
• 53:49
  you know.
• 53:51
  They were dead when I got here. What
• 53:52
  do you want for me? Yeah. Yeah. Or
• 53:54
  or they'll have enough sense to tell you
• 53:55
  to drag their body off of the grounds
• 53:57
  and
• 53:58
  like, Disneyland does and be done with it.
• 54:02
  See, that's just smart business.
• 54:05
  Well,
• 54:06
  pretty exciting stuff.
• 54:09
  I'm going to
• 54:11
  I go see,
• 54:12
  power trip.
• 54:14
  Next week or the new the new power
• 54:16
  trip next week. They're putting on a little
• 54:20
  1 day festival
• 54:21
  show.
• 54:22
  So
• 54:23
  I'm looking forward to to giving a report
• 54:26
  seeing how seeing how that all goes. The
• 54:28
  last the last time I saw them. The
• 54:30
  last performance they were did. Was that that...
• 54:32
  Same video. The south side music call here
• 54:33
  in Dallas. They were doing Evil beat 2,
• 54:37
  bunch of the bands that were playing that
• 54:39
  fast
• 54:39
  same gonna be on this 1 as well.
• 54:41
  So
• 54:43
  gonna give this whole music thing a try
• 54:45
  again. I'm gonna see if I like it.
• 54:46
  We'll see.
• 54:47
  Hope no 1 jumps off a balcony and
• 54:49
  drop kicks you on the back of the
• 54:50
  head. I don't think this 1 has any
• 54:52
  balconies.
• 54:53
  That's good. Yeah. Yeah.
• 54:56
  It... Hope should be silly though. The last
• 54:58
  time, you know, lots of people getting dumped
• 55:00
  into garbage cans and stuff like that.
• 55:03
  Against their will, Yeah.
• 55:05
  Well, you know, it's fine. They get dunk
• 55:06
  in the garbage can, people pick up the
• 55:08
  garbage can with them in. They surf around.
• 55:09
  Everybody laughs. It's good.
• 55:11
  It's it's a friendly dumping. Yeah. Yeah. That's
• 55:14
  okay.
• 55:16
  How about you? You got any big shows
• 55:17
  coming up?
• 55:18
  I no. Nothing. There's a couple...
• 55:21
  Better like a...
• 55:23
  Maybe. It's like, it's a real band that's
• 55:24
  coming here. That would be fun. Oh, it's
• 55:27
  35 dollars and it's on a Tuesday. And
• 55:29
  you just... I talk myself at a bit.
• 55:31
  Only 1 that's, like, mildly interesting and I'm
• 55:33
  still not gonna go, but Ying way Mo
• 55:36
  is gonna be playing a local venue, and
• 55:38
  it would just be fun to, like, get
• 55:41
  a f shirt and get some sort of
• 55:43
  poodle hair wig and dress up like him
• 55:45
  and stand in the front and just try
• 55:46
  to mimic his hand movements, I think you
• 55:48
  ought to. I think I I will... I'll
• 55:50
  pay for your ticket. You should go.
• 55:53
  Just see the vi os and then 5
• 55:55
  minutes and like, oh, This is.
• 55:58
  I'm gonna be here for another hour, Or
• 56:00
  I.
• 56:03
  Yeah, man. I... I briefly considered going to
• 56:07
  new... New England hardcore and metal festival. It's
• 56:10
  just like,
• 56:11
  the...
• 56:12
  The logistics of it don't work out, but
• 56:14
  I have been
• 56:15
  I guess, encouraged
• 56:17
  by seeing how much backlash recently people have
• 56:20
  been giving the festival for booking slaughter to
• 56:22
  prevail.
• 56:24
  Don't shape you've seen this as well. Yeah.
• 56:26
  I have some of it, but I mean,
• 56:28
  we'll it's gonna be packed for them. I
• 56:30
  have no doubt. Really?
• 56:32
  Well, they just did a festival somewhere in
• 56:34
  Europe where they tried to
• 56:36
  have, like, the guinness,
• 56:37
  book of road records wall of death, and
• 56:40
  there were a lot of people there for
• 56:41
  them. And
• 56:43
  I think it's 1 of those things where
• 56:44
  people either don't know
• 56:45
  any specifics about the band or the people
• 56:48
  involved it or they don't care.
• 56:51
  It's a shame man because
• 56:53
  you know, the music itself.
• 56:55
  It's really bad. It's really bad. It's not
• 56:58
  been. Yeah.
• 57:00
  It they don't have, like undeniable talent
• 57:04
  or even a knack for writing hits. Yeah.
• 57:07
  Like, man, I do not wanna listen to
• 57:08
  a second of falling in reverse, but I
• 57:11
  could understand a certain type of person
• 57:14
  liking that sort of thing. They're not, you
• 57:16
  know, connected to the music world like we,
• 57:18
  they don't know any backstory. It just... It's
• 57:21
  pop music to them, and it hits their
• 57:23
  pleasure center there and that's all they know
• 57:25
  versus Slur Reveal, which is just... Or her
• 57:28
  from
• 57:29
  an unproductive band that made their name through
• 57:32
  Youtube.
• 57:33
  Say what you will?
• 57:35
  But, Gary Glitter had a undeniable hit with
• 57:38
  rock and roll part too.
• 57:41
  No 1 look into any of the rest
• 57:42
  of his career.
• 57:44
  I...
• 57:46
  Years ago, I was at a friend's house.
• 57:48
  He put on a record. I was like,
• 57:49
  this is bad ass. And wait. I had
• 57:52
  to much to my like,
• 57:54
  extreme horror. I realized it was other gary
• 57:57
  glitter songs aside no.
• 57:59
  I was like, oh, okay. Yeah. No.
• 58:02
  Just gonna hide that 1 in the memory
• 58:03
  volts.
• 58:05
  Time to register with their local officials. Yeah.
• 58:08
  Yep.
• 58:09
  Nobody called Good Didn't no. You're good. Go
• 58:12
  Good.
• 58:13
  And this is, all of that can be
• 58:16
  blamed in large part to, like, Jamie J.
• 58:19
  The an Ash from Sum records doing the
• 58:22
  work for them to legit them and give
• 58:25
  them money and try to get them over
• 58:27
  to Europe and the United States. You know,
• 58:29
  we often complain that these older guys aren't
• 58:31
  giving back to the the younger guys. They're
• 58:33
  not giving them opportunities and here they are,
• 58:36
  and here we are complaining.
• 58:38
  Here we are with them telling, slur to
• 58:41
  prevail to cover up their specific that. Twos
• 58:43
  that are preventing them from playing in Europe.
• 58:45
  Yep. And, you know, putting them on their
• 58:48
  social media and piping them up, like, they're
• 58:50
  the next big thing.
• 58:52
  I'm just reminded of how Hate put out
• 58:54
  a c with slaughter to prevail for some
• 58:57
  reason. Oh, my god. Yeah. The I completely
• 58:59
  forgot about that. Good stuff. It had the,
• 59:01
  like, American and Russian flags on them together.
• 59:04
  Good stuff. Yeah. Yeah really,
• 59:07
  Jamie Jo deserves
• 59:09
  most of the credit here I would say
• 59:11
  for this
• 59:13
  the band's continued popularity. So I'd like you
• 59:15
  to remember in the future.
• 59:18
  That slaughter to avail,
• 59:20
  the the band,
• 59:21
  with the vocalist with the Nazi tattoos,
• 59:24
  that's Jamie Jo boy,
• 59:27
  and the misogyny and homophobia and trans homophobia.
• 59:29
  All, that too. And jerk off his dog.
• 59:31
  Yeah. Which is not a joke. It's a
• 59:33
  thing he posted. Yeah. He
• 59:36
  jerk off dogs. But
• 59:39
  and some attention has to be given to
• 59:41
  Ash as well,
• 59:43
  which is a nice transition to the final
• 59:44
  thing we could talk about briefly. Okay.
• 59:49
  He posted a
• 59:51
  love letter to Julian ass
• 59:54
  people this week.
• 59:55
  With a picture of him in black and
• 59:58
  white with the words free above his name.
• 1:00:01
  I see. So
• 1:00:04
  I have not followed
• 1:00:06
  the Julia
• 1:00:07
  Julian is song story super closely over the
• 1:00:10
  last 15 years, but he's... Basically been
• 1:00:13
  incarcerated in some manner or another for that
• 1:00:16
  entire time. 4 charges that may or may
• 1:00:19
  not have been completely trump up. As a
• 1:00:21
  way to silence
• 1:00:22
  the press. That's that's kind of what I
• 1:00:24
  was
• 1:00:26
  kinda
• 1:00:27
  grass from not really paying attention to anything.
• 1:00:30
  Well,
• 1:00:32
  it's a deeper story in than that, and
• 1:00:33
  also he is not a real journalist,
• 1:00:37
  whether it's... Giving up state secrets or publishing
• 1:00:40
  things that shouldn't be published. And also, you
• 1:00:42
  know, being real cozy with the Russian government
• 1:00:45
  and
• 1:00:47
  posting stuff to hurt certain governments and not
• 1:00:50
  others.
• 1:00:52
  Hey there's rape accusations against him, and then
• 1:00:54
  hiding and I believe the ecuador dorian
• 1:00:56
  See for, like, close to a decade.
• 1:01:00
  I mean, yeah, I imagine that's really boring.
• 1:01:04
  And apparently, they hated him because he like
• 1:01:06
  never cleaned his room and he smelled. Oh,
• 1:01:08
  no.
• 1:01:09
  But
• 1:01:10
  this week he plead guilty to some charges
• 1:01:13
  and, like is therefore, I guess, free to
• 1:01:15
  move about and do whatever it is he
• 1:01:18
  thinks he does. But Ash went on Instagram,
• 1:01:21
  and it's loving praise saying,
• 1:01:23
  don't ever let my optic sheep,
• 1:01:26
  make you believe that the power of awareness,
• 1:01:30
  activism
• 1:01:30
  protest and free speech is futile.
• 1:01:34
  I mean,
• 1:01:35
  they absolutely are, though. 1000
• 1:01:38
  percent there have been, you know, 15 years
• 1:01:40
  of process
• 1:01:41
  to, you know, by various groups for this
• 1:01:44
  guy. And as far as I can tell
• 1:01:46
  absolutely nothing pressured to anybody to do anything.
• 1:01:48
  No.
• 1:01:50
  The only waste of time is letting time
• 1:01:52
  pass with nothing changing.
• 1:01:55
  It's some high school year book. Same summer
• 1:01:58
  quote. Just thinking about all the various causes
• 1:02:01
  I've personally protested.
• 1:02:03
  None of which have had any effect whatsoever.
• 1:02:06
  Which are far more noble than
• 1:02:09
  freeing this fucking guy. I mean, like,
• 1:02:12
  what I... Look, I I've watched,
• 1:02:16
  like, a couple of the videos released from
• 1:02:18
  Wikileaks, like the...
• 1:02:21
  Military double tapping civilians,
• 1:02:23
  like, in Afghanistan, and, like, yes, It's horrifying
• 1:02:26
  at all, but, like,
• 1:02:28
  again, like, none of that, none of the
• 1:02:31
  the war crimes released by this really had
• 1:02:34
  any effect whatsoever,
• 1:02:35
  awareness. As far as I can tell is
• 1:02:37
  about the most useless thing on Earth. It
• 1:02:40
  is an autism speaks bumper sticker around the
• 1:02:42
  back of your car.
• 1:02:45
  To
• 1:02:46
  So Has continued, what an incredible moment for
• 1:02:49
  everyone that fights for truth. Oh, jesus just
• 1:02:52
  fucking. K Ash,
• 1:02:55
  the scion of what the Rocky 2 Rocky
• 1:02:57
  3 director.
• 1:02:59
  Yeah. Yeah. Hollywood direct there and Produce a
• 1:03:01
  sec. Bak piece of shit responsible for... I
• 1:03:04
  would say he's mostly responsible for the dog
• 1:03:07
  shit state that modern metal is in more
• 1:03:09
  than any other person.
• 1:03:11
  Piece and he has decided that in the
• 1:03:13
  last few years rather than being responsible for
• 1:03:16
  awful plastic gen bands,
• 1:03:19
  he is actually a brave truth teller
• 1:03:22
  in the face of big pharma, because he
• 1:03:24
  didn't wanna get the clot shot or whatever
• 1:03:26
  of the hell because he's
• 1:03:28
  dating a nurse.
• 1:03:30
  And he's also a big Rf arcade junior
• 1:03:32
  supported him. The only 1. You're in.
• 1:03:37
  Him in his running mate, he was like,
• 1:03:39
  given millions of dollars. Jesus.
• 1:03:42
  Julian Ass is a hero.
• 1:03:45
  And if you ever wanna tell if someone
• 1:03:47
  has never spent 50
• 1:03:49
  15 minutes of their lives reading wikileaks.
• 1:03:53
  They'll be the ones cheering for whatever the
• 1:03:55
  current war the Us government is financing,
• 1:03:58
  while the publicly traded companies who benefit from
• 1:04:00
  it are bragging on their quarterly earnings calls.
• 1:04:04
  Read and listen.
• 1:04:05
  All caps, read and listen,
• 1:04:08
  then speak loudly.
• 1:04:11
  It continues
• 1:04:12
  with... And, you know, how Instagram will show
• 1:04:14
  multiple pictures. Here's another 1.
• 1:04:17
  With a quote from Julian ass. If war
• 1:04:19
  can be started by lies,
• 1:04:22
  peace can be started by truth.
• 1:04:24
  That is
• 1:04:26
  legitimately the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
• 1:04:30
  If a war can be started by lies,
• 1:04:32
  it seems like all of the momentum is
• 1:04:34
  gonna make that were happened regardless of whether
• 1:04:36
  or not you and I have any input
• 1:04:37
  on it whatsoever with the truth.
• 1:04:39
  I remember
• 1:04:41
  protesting the
• 1:04:43
  the war in a Iraq and that had
• 1:04:46
  0
• 1:04:47
  effect on anything.
• 1:04:49
  The the same can be said for most?
• 1:04:51
  Protests and stuff like that. It's mostly there
• 1:04:53
  to
• 1:04:54
  show some sort of solidarity and to make
• 1:04:56
  you feel better. Yeah. And that's okay. If
• 1:04:58
  not that's what your expectations are. That's perfectly
• 1:05:00
  fine. I don't wanna be a debt I
• 1:05:02
  don't I wanna be really negative or cynical
• 1:05:04
  or anything like that, but, like,
• 1:05:06
  this is the culmination of my life realizing
• 1:05:10
  that... Truth,
• 1:05:12
  awareness,
• 1:05:13
  data,
• 1:05:14
  none of it means of things. No.
• 1:05:17
  Ash continues, respect to every artist fan and
• 1:05:20
  executive risking money opportunity and friends
• 1:05:23
  by speaking their truth in letting their voice
• 1:05:26
  be heard. Jesus. That's... Okay. That's the even
• 1:05:29
  more useless,
• 1:05:31
  speaking your truth, letting your voice be heard.
• 1:05:34
  Just pounding in your chest. This is my
• 1:05:36
  truth for you know what has a better
• 1:05:38
  effect?
• 1:05:39
  Physical force.
• 1:05:44
  Like a bomb. It says some quotes for
• 1:05:46
  some reason. Mh. The Vulture rub everything.
• 1:05:50
  Leave nothing but chains.
• 1:05:52
  Pick a points on the globe. Yes. That
• 1:05:55
  picture the same. I don't know if this
• 1:05:56
  is a song poem. I don't know. There's
• 1:05:59
  a bank. There's a church, a myth and
• 1:06:01
  a hurts. A mall and alone, A child
• 1:06:04
  did at birth. This is a church. This
• 1:06:07
  is the steep
• 1:06:08
  open.
• 1:06:09
  The other peoples.
• 1:06:11
  There's a widow pig parrot, a rebel to
• 1:06:14
  tame, a white hoodie judge, a syringe and
• 1:06:17
  of vein.
• 1:06:19
  And the riot by be the rhyme of
• 1:06:21
  the unheard.
• 1:06:23
  What you say, what you say, what you
• 1:06:26
  say?
• 1:06:27
  What you're saying? Sounded like.
• 1:06:32
  I'm calm like a bomb ignite.
• 1:06:35
  Okay. Hey.
• 1:06:37
  Alright. Well,
• 1:06:39
  interesting that he's, I guess, reciting rage against
• 1:06:42
  the machine lyrics here. I guess he's probably,
• 1:06:45
  Tom Is tired of I'm doing it too
• 1:06:46
  person.
• 1:06:48
  He's done harassing Tom On the way back
• 1:06:50
  from K.
• 1:06:55
  I don't know. It's good, though. I think
• 1:06:56
  it's good that
• 1:06:58
  Ash is
• 1:06:59
  trying to cloud himself up.
• 1:07:02
  With the release of Julian ass astonished by
• 1:07:03
  saying that, I am also,
• 1:07:06
  brave truth teller, you know, some kind of
• 1:07:09
  symbol of
• 1:07:10
  Freedoms,
• 1:07:11
  Freedom of speaks and truth and journalism, all
• 1:07:13
  those things.
• 1:07:15
  When primarily, his whole deal is
• 1:07:18
  harassing
• 1:07:19
  periphery
• 1:07:20
  online saying, like, you should probably release release
• 1:07:23
  more albums with me.
• 1:07:25
  As Periphery jumps in the comments of it
• 1:07:27
  in is Instagram with, like, you k, bro?
• 1:07:29
  Yeah.
• 1:07:31
  It is fun to see the comment. On
• 1:07:33
  things like that. We're just like, why is
• 1:07:34
  the metal record label posting this because it's
• 1:07:37
  not just from his personal stuff. He is
• 1:07:39
  Including the label? Some more people are seeing
• 1:07:41
  this, which
• 1:07:43
  I mean, some people are into this. A
• 1:07:44
  lot of people aren't and, you know, it
• 1:07:47
  doesn't reflect well on the bands who just
• 1:07:49
  aren't into this sort of thing, but he
• 1:07:51
  does not care. And this is this is
• 1:07:54
  where this guy's at in life. So maybe
• 1:07:56
  we'll see Julian ass spoken word to intro
• 1:07:59
  on the next poppy album.
• 1:08:01
  Maybe. III guess that's that's his whole thing.
• 1:08:03
  I get really, he he gives me,
• 1:08:08
  like, Ron paul dead end your vibes is
• 1:08:11
  the the thing that I'm getting from Ash,
• 1:08:13
  which, you know? There were those guys, like
• 1:08:15
  in you know, around 20 12 or so,
• 1:08:17
  you remember them?
• 1:08:19
  Yeah. Somewhere between the Ron paul types and,
• 1:08:21
  like richard dock types. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:08:25
  All the dogg apparently he's
• 1:08:27
  on the Christianity train now. He says it's
• 1:08:29
  good because it's not islam.
• 1:08:33
  Yeah. That's kind of been his thing for
• 1:08:34
  a while. I guess, people are red discovering
• 1:08:36
  that, yeah. It... It's the same type of
• 1:08:38
  person. I know the truth and you're all
• 1:08:41
  sheep because you don't believe me and... But
• 1:08:44
  Some people get really into that type of
• 1:08:46
  thinking and unfortunately, some of its banned.
• 1:08:48
  Yeah.
• 1:08:50
  I again, I don't wanna...
• 1:08:52
  Stop anybody from, you know, making some kind
• 1:08:54
  of
• 1:08:55
  political statement or whatever, but, like...
• 1:08:59
  Yeah. As far as I can tell, it's
• 1:09:00
  not really working out.
• 1:09:02
  And don't team up with creeps. Yeah. That's
• 1:09:05
  too. That's... That would help extremely questionable motives
• 1:09:08
  and
• 1:09:09
  people that they work with that are not
• 1:09:10
  friends to you or who you care about.
• 1:09:15
  I don't know, man. I we did the
• 1:09:18
  bonus or we did the 500 episode the
• 1:09:20
  other day. They asked, like, who would you
• 1:09:22
  like to forcefully remove from the metal scene.
• 1:09:24
  My answer stands. It's Ash. He's gotta go.
• 1:09:27
  It's a good choice.
• 1:09:30
  Well, what do you think Anything else you
• 1:09:31
  wanna get on this episode or should we
• 1:09:33
  call it here? I think we can call
• 1:09:34
  it here. Well, folks, appreciate you listening.
• 1:09:38
  If you have anything that you wanna hear
• 1:09:39
  on the show, let us know. Rds dms
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  are open. I watch twitter all the time.
• 1:09:43
  Despite my best efforts.
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  But we also have an email,
• 1:09:47
  g mail dot com.
• 1:09:49
  Jordans there too, don't give him addiction. I'm
• 1:09:52
  not the only 1 that likes getting Dmt
• 1:09:54
  likes getting James too. Yeah. I'm the 1
• 1:09:56
  doing most of the work. Yeah. I'm just
• 1:09:58
  the pretty face here. You have your workhorse
• 1:10:00
  and your show and, Yep. Joe is the
• 1:10:03
  show horse and I'm chained to a desk
• 1:10:05
  and, you know, Joe turns off the lights
• 1:10:07
  When he's like, See you next week, and
• 1:10:09
  I'm still working.
• 1:10:11
  I have my little sad desk lamp on,
• 1:10:13
  just hunch over writing things out, making sure
• 1:10:15
  the receipts work. This Joseph hopping into his
• 1:10:19
  corvette vet with his sunglasses on with hot
• 1:10:22
  babe on each arm. I'm just driving off
• 1:10:25
  into the sunset, is exactly what's happening.
• 1:10:28
  Also, I'd like to remind people. We have
• 1:10:30
  a discord,
• 1:10:31
  where people are constantly shit posting in,
• 1:10:34
  if you want access to that, let us
• 1:10:35
  know. Also, if you join the Patreon, that
• 1:10:38
  auto generates a link to join it, and
• 1:10:40
  I believe.
• 1:10:41
  Yeah Just let me know. We're we're here.
• 1:10:43
  We'll see you next time.
• 1:10:45
  Bye.
• 1:14:06
  You're listening to 66.6
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  fm m,
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  radio T0H,
• 1:14:11
  the flush.