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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality the King. It's me Carlos Kings, the
- 0:05Speaker 1: King of Reality TV and one of the most sought
- 0:08Speaker 1: after executive producers in reality television with over ten years
- 0:13Speaker 1: a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with the King,
- 0:17Speaker 1: we'll sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry,
- 0:20Speaker 1: recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that
- 0:25Speaker 1: we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey May drops
- 0:32Speaker 1: on today's episode of Reality with the King. She's back.
- 0:35Speaker 1: She's my friend, she's my love. I adore her. She
- 0:39Speaker 1: is also the host of an amazing podcast that I
- 0:42Speaker 1: love listening to weekly called Citizen McCain Give it up
- 0:46Speaker 1: on My beautiful friend Inside and Out.
- 0:49Speaker 2: Meghan McCain.
- 0:50Speaker 3: Well, first of all, Carlos, I love you so much.
- 0:53Speaker 3: Thank you for having me and I always love coming
- 0:55Speaker 3: on your show. And second of all, I just partner
- 0:58Speaker 3: with a company called two Way, so on Mondays and
- 1:01Speaker 3: Wednesdays at five o'clock live on YouTube or the two
- 1:03Speaker 3: Way app if you want to talk about politics, That's
- 1:05Speaker 3: what I'm doing every night for an hour until tonight
- 1:08Speaker 3: do when we're recording, so if people want to join
- 1:11Speaker 3: that too, it's just on YouTube. It's easy to find.
- 1:13Speaker 2: Oh that's good, A congratulations for you.
- 1:14Speaker 4: Know.
- 1:14Speaker 2: Listen, I love your podcast.
- 1:16Speaker 1: I listen to me and Megan text all the time,
- 1:19Speaker 1: and I love how it's like the intersection between my
- 1:22Speaker 1: politics and pop culture in.
- 1:23Speaker 2: Most episodes, and you have great guests on.
- 1:26Speaker 1: And the beautiful thing about your podcast is there's so
- 1:30Speaker 1: many people in the political landscape who respect you and
- 1:35Speaker 1: your voice hate me.
- 1:37Speaker 3: It's like, I'm a.
- 1:39Speaker 2: Girl, it's live. People hate me. It is what it is.
- 1:42Speaker 3: We hate you. You're like the kindest, smartest who would
- 1:47Speaker 3: hate you.
- 1:47Speaker 1: God, thank you so much, Thank you so much, Thank
- 1:50Speaker 1: you so much. I appreciate that. But the thing is, honey,
- 1:53Speaker 1: it's just listen. That's why always tell people, because they're like,
- 1:57Speaker 1: how is Megan. I'm like, Megan is a cool ass chick.
- 2:02Speaker 1: And what's been so funny is every time you come
- 2:06Speaker 1: on the podcast, I have so many people text me like.
- 2:11Speaker 2: I love Megan. I thought it.
- 2:12Speaker 1: So I'm like, I try to tell Megan all the
- 2:15Speaker 1: time that people like you.
- 2:18Speaker 2: Mag it like, don't believe social media.
- 2:21Speaker 3: I feel like your podcast gives me like some credibility
- 2:24Speaker 3: though in the pop culture space. Because a lot of
- 2:27Speaker 3: people that I like, love and respect, like my friend
- 2:29Speaker 3: Anthony shout out to Anthony, listen to your podcast, and
- 2:32Speaker 3: you know, it's a big it's a big, enormous pop
- 2:35Speaker 3: culture podcast. So being invited on is obviously such a privilege.
- 2:39Speaker 3: And it's always nice to go into spaces where people
- 2:42Speaker 3: are not listening to like you know whatever, watching c
- 2:44Speaker 3: Span all day and that's very popular. Us is your work,
- 2:49Speaker 3: so it's like so fun for me and not be
- 2:52Speaker 3: able to actually talk about like you know, the Housewives
- 2:54Speaker 3: and stuff like that is really, you know, so fun.
- 2:57Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, no, and listen, you our reality
- 3:02Speaker 1: gourer as well, because you watch all the shows. So
- 3:05Speaker 1: let's get right into it because we get to take
- 3:07Speaker 1: our text messages now to the podcast audio space. And
- 3:10Speaker 1: I'm super thrilled to recap the latest episode of the
- 3:14Speaker 1: Real Housewives of belly Hills with you and.
- 3:17Speaker 2: You watched it right of course.
- 3:20Speaker 3: All right, Well, this hasn't been the easiest season for
- 3:23Speaker 3: me to watch.
- 3:24Speaker 2: Talk about it, Megan, talk about it well, like I.
- 3:27Speaker 3: Always say to you and I when we you know,
- 3:29Speaker 3: text offline, like for me, it's like am I doing
- 3:33Speaker 3: appointment viewing? Like making sure Ben has my kids, and
- 3:36Speaker 3: I this is my time and I want to watch
- 3:38Speaker 3: in Salt Lake City. This season was really that for me,
- 3:40Speaker 3: Like I really couldn't look away like amazing I would
- 3:45Speaker 3: Southern Term is an exactly appointment viewing, but I don't
- 3:47Speaker 3: want to wait like more than a day before watching it.
- 3:50Speaker 3: Like there's a lot of Housewives franchises that I really
- 3:53Speaker 3: like and look New York and Beverly Hills, New York
- 3:57Speaker 3: was a whole different level of disappointment for me. But
- 3:58Speaker 3: Beverly Hills has been a little boring. There's some plot
- 4:02Speaker 3: lines that I like, am just not gravitating towards. And
- 4:06Speaker 3: I saw you speaking with our friend Zach Peter, who
- 4:09Speaker 3: was also just like the loveliest, kindest, most intelligent. I
- 4:13Speaker 3: really adore both of you, but he I saw you
- 4:16Speaker 3: saying you're a Slaton and I was like, poor loves
- 4:18Speaker 3: and I may disagree, they disagree. I think it's a
- 4:24Speaker 3: little boring this season. I don't know, but bos she
- 4:29Speaker 3: is just I mean killing it. Everything about her she's
- 4:33Speaker 3: doing right. I think that I like looking at her.
- 4:36Speaker 3: I think she's beautiful. I like the way she dresses,
- 4:38Speaker 3: I like the way she talks. I like that she's
- 4:40Speaker 3: a straight shooter taking some unconventional approaches and some controversial takes.
- 4:44Speaker 3: I wait, I really want to talk about this with you.
- 4:47Speaker 3: There's rumors that she and Garcel got into it in
- 4:49Speaker 3: the reunion because Garcel put Instagram post up that people
- 4:53Speaker 3: are reading maybe like a shot at Bow's. So I
- 4:57Speaker 3: was like, oh my gosh, has there been because they're
- 4:59Speaker 3: clearly not connecting the way she's connecting with Dreid. But
- 5:03Speaker 3: she's my favorite this season, like I just and I
- 5:05Speaker 3: rarely like a first season housewife like this much. And
- 5:09Speaker 3: if they get rid of her next season, I really
- 5:13Speaker 3: like may Boycott on the street, Like I just like her,
- 5:18Speaker 3: I don't know, And I think she'd be so fun
- 5:19Speaker 3: to hang out with, Like I think he's just cool
- 5:22Speaker 3: and smart and really direct, and I think she's mixing
- 5:25Speaker 3: it up and calling bullshit out that has really been
- 5:28Speaker 3: needed to be called out.
- 5:31Speaker 1: Megan McCain, listen, we will we will agree. I'm sorry,
- 5:35Speaker 1: we will agree on I feel like I was get
- 5:38Speaker 1: them wrong. And again, I love Bo's and I love
- 5:41Speaker 1: her so much.
- 5:42Speaker 3: I think she's st John about that.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Yes, yes, the beautiful Saint John Darling. I love her
- 5:48Speaker 1: so much. She is she is is killing it because
- 5:54Speaker 1: she is so genuine and real and I don't think
- 5:59Speaker 1: she's picking sigh at all. I think she looks at
- 6:02Speaker 1: every situation and calls things as they see it, and
- 6:06Speaker 1: that's what makes her such a great addition. I agree
- 6:09Speaker 1: with you like she is by far my favorite new
- 6:13Speaker 1: housewife of the year. I think kudos to the casting
- 6:16Speaker 1: director who cast her. She's so fantastic. This season of
- 6:21Speaker 1: Bisley Hills isn't the greatest. I definitely think a shakeup
- 6:25Speaker 1: needs to happen. This episode, I'm going to be very honest,
- 6:29Speaker 1: was boring. It wasn't great. Last week's episode was fine.
- 6:34Speaker 1: This one was awesome.
- 6:35Speaker 3: Maybe it was born because Bo's was not in it
- 6:38Speaker 3: as much, Like she really wasn't in it until like
- 6:40Speaker 3: kind of the fashion show with then, so I don't
- 6:42Speaker 3: know that was part of it. And I Erica Jane,
- 6:44Speaker 3: I just think is like again, I never want her
- 6:46Speaker 3: to go anywhere. I think she's wonderful. I think she's whatever.
- 6:49Speaker 3: But like, I'm not an interior design person in general,
- 6:53Speaker 3: like I tend to like, like you know, I just
- 6:55Speaker 3: am not interested in interior design and I don't care
- 6:59Speaker 3: about interior design and all this like emphasis on interior design.
- 7:01Speaker 3: I just would have loved to see more about where
- 7:03Speaker 3: she's at in her life, dating, work, preparing for her
- 7:06Speaker 3: Broadway show. You know whatever, I just don't care. And
- 7:10Speaker 3: it sounds rude, but I don't mean it that way.
- 7:13Speaker 1: No, You're being real. The thing is this, I want
- 7:16Speaker 1: to see Erica Jane date on the show too. I
- 7:18Speaker 1: want to see Erica and Dereit have like post divorce
- 7:24Speaker 1: fun single women and bedly Hill's dating some of these
- 7:28Speaker 1: like hot wealthy men or these hot young like actors
- 7:32Speaker 1: or models, and like.
- 7:34Speaker 2: Just be like super duper fun.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Because what the other Housewives shows do so well is
- 7:41Speaker 1: they follow the reality of where these women are in
- 7:43Speaker 1: their lives. I got a chance to meet Erica Jane
- 7:46Speaker 1: for the first time in December. She and I had
- 7:48Speaker 1: a love fest about you. By the way, Megan, She's the.
- 7:52Speaker 3: Nicest, you know. I was not able to go see
- 7:54Speaker 3: her on Broadway this time because it was like smack
- 7:57Speaker 3: dab inauguration. I had a friend who being confirmed into
- 8:01Speaker 3: the new administration, and then I was doing I was
- 8:04Speaker 3: relaunching this new show, and I just could not make
- 8:06Speaker 3: it to New York and I feel fucking horrible about it,
- 8:10Speaker 3: Like I feel I mean, she's been very gracious since
- 8:12Speaker 3: I has her lovely coworker Layah, who I think, you know,
- 8:15Speaker 3: because on the show sometimes and they're lovely. But I
- 8:17Speaker 3: feel terrible about it. I saw Zach go and I
- 8:18Speaker 3: was like, oh my God, like my even my husband
- 8:21Speaker 3: was like, I can't believe it. I was like, I
- 8:23Speaker 3: just have been so busy. It's been so hard. So
- 8:25Speaker 3: but I heard she was incredible and I love her.
- 8:27Speaker 3: She's a really really genuinely wonderful person and uh a
- 8:32Speaker 3: dear friend. And I just think she's so cool too,
- 8:34Speaker 3: like just so everything about her is cool, you know,
- 8:36Speaker 3: And I'm not cool, so having like cool friends like
- 8:39Speaker 3: that mean, come on, she's like, you know, pretty cool.
- 8:46Speaker 3: Her song was in Anora, then a Cademy Award winning
- 8:50Speaker 3: Best Picture. For people who don't know Erica's song Drip,
- 8:52Speaker 3: which is like a great, pretty, filthy song. I don't
- 8:56Speaker 3: know that, yep, the it's the Mikey Madison the act
- 9:00Speaker 3: dances to it in one of the scenes, and so
- 9:02Speaker 3: I'm just like thrilled for her for that, Like what
- 9:04Speaker 3: a pop culture like cool thing to have your song
- 9:07Speaker 3: an Academy Award winning movie.
- 9:09Speaker 2: No, She's dope, She's still She's dope.
- 9:11Speaker 1: So let's get right into this recent episode because you
- 9:14Speaker 1: and I have texts about this and I want to
- 9:16Speaker 1: get your thoughts. So obviously we know that Kyle and
- 9:19Speaker 1: Mauricio are separated, and in this episode they spoke about
- 9:25Speaker 1: a Papa Razzo capturing Mauricio midkiss to.
- 9:30Speaker 2: A young lady.
- 9:32Speaker 1: And then moments later, Kyle is at Morgan Wade's concert
- 9:38Speaker 1: and Guarcella Sutton believe that they're both trying to like
- 9:43Speaker 1: outdate each other in the sense of like listen. Points
- 9:48Speaker 1: were made Megan, and I know you have strong feelings
- 9:50Speaker 1: about this. Points were made in the sense of all
- 9:54Speaker 1: last season we saw Kyle and Morgan get tattoos. How
- 10:01Speaker 1: did you guys meet was she was like stalking me
- 10:04Speaker 1: and then a blush happened as Kyle was blushing. It
- 10:07Speaker 1: was in our face, And up until then we did
- 10:10Speaker 1: not see Mauricia with anybody. Mauricio kissing another woman at
- 10:14Speaker 1: an airport. I don't think it's the worst thing because
- 10:18Speaker 1: the woman was not on Bibley Hill's Housewives like Morgan was,
- 10:22Speaker 1: and also she wasn't on buying Beverly Hills, his two
- 10:25Speaker 1: season show on Netflix.
- 10:26Speaker 3: Do you think two seasons? That show was horrible? And
- 10:34Speaker 3: I'll watch anything like I watched them. It's the third
- 10:38Speaker 3: season of Natalia Grace documentary. I will watch anything, and
- 10:41Speaker 3: that show was trash. Sorry, it was terrible. I wasted
- 10:46Speaker 3: my time trying to watch on show. Not true, lasted
- 10:53Speaker 3: two seasons.
- 10:55Speaker 1: Okay, ladies jumping big days and days. I can see
- 10:59Speaker 1: my friends. What are your thoughts? What are your thoughts
- 11:01Speaker 1: on this? Because you have a strong opinions about this
- 11:04Speaker 1: mortget Kyle Mauricio trifecta, and I want my audience to know, like,
- 11:10Speaker 1: what do you think about what was displaying this episode?
- 11:13Speaker 3: So I want to say that I respect and understand
- 11:15Speaker 3: that you are a Kyle fan and a Kyle I
- 11:18Speaker 3: don't want to get you in trouble because I know
- 11:20Speaker 3: I think she's she's your friends right or friendly?
- 11:22Speaker 1: Yeah, we follow she follows me on Instagram. She's my
- 11:24Speaker 1: favorite housewife. But but the thing that Kyle loves about me,
- 11:28Speaker 1: I'm honest and I'm not like dissing her as a person.
- 11:31Speaker 1: I'm honest about what I'm seeing on the show. So
- 11:33Speaker 1: phil freestis struck.
- 11:34Speaker 2: Go right ahead.
- 11:35Speaker 3: Well, I don't know her and I've never met her,
- 11:37Speaker 3: and I have no interactions with Kyle other than what
- 11:39Speaker 3: I'm seeing on my TV. And this is what I like,
- 11:43Speaker 3: just in general transparency in life. But I really like
- 11:46Speaker 3: it with my reality TV stars. And she's been on
- 11:49Speaker 3: that show. It's thirteen or fourteen years. I can't remember
- 11:52Speaker 3: how many sy Yeah, I mean, that's insane. It's great.
- 11:55Speaker 3: But watching her for like a really long, like my
- 11:58Speaker 3: entire adult life, and she is really losing me because
- 12:04Speaker 3: a I don't pretend to understand how difficult it is
- 12:08Speaker 3: to reconcile with your sexuality, especially publicly. The only thing
- 12:12Speaker 3: I can relate it to is my dear friend Klay
- 12:14Speaker 3: Aiken was sort of outed by people before he came
- 12:16Speaker 3: out of the closet. I've been with him on that
- 12:19Speaker 3: journey for a very long time. We were very old friends.
- 12:21Speaker 3: I don't downplay how difficult that journey is, and I
- 12:25Speaker 3: don't understand it because I'm heterosexual. But she, as you said,
- 12:30Speaker 3: last season, it looked to me like she was flirting
- 12:33Speaker 3: with a woman, not hanging out with her best friend.
- 12:35Speaker 3: When she was with Morgan and there are all these,
- 12:37Speaker 3: you know, the music videos she did where it's very
- 12:39Speaker 3: sexual and they're like, you know, almost kissing and feeding
- 12:43Speaker 3: each other like fruit, and you know, it's just very
- 12:45Speaker 3: very sexual music video and it's about love. So I
- 12:48Speaker 3: had just assumed that they were together because you know,
- 12:51Speaker 3: X plus Y equal Z. And then this season the
- 12:55Speaker 3: erasure of Morgan, which I think arcel I saw in
- 12:58Speaker 3: the preview coming up, calls out that we're allowed to
- 13:01Speaker 3: talk about Mariicio, but we're not allowed to talk about Morgan.
- 13:04Speaker 3: I agree with it. I just don't understand what's going
- 13:07Speaker 3: on or what she's hiding or what she's scared of. Also,
- 13:12Speaker 3: this is just me because I'm like a pretty intense person.
- 13:16Speaker 3: If my husband is making out with some lady in
- 13:20Speaker 3: Greece or where the hell they were, I mean I
- 13:22Speaker 3: would be like, Carlos, I'm coming on your show and
- 13:23Speaker 3: we're talking about my divorce and where I'm going next.
- 13:26Speaker 3: I would just like light him on fire and I
- 13:28Speaker 3: would end it because I don't want to be humiliated publicly,
- 13:31Speaker 3: and I don't really understand what she's doing. I don't understand.
- 13:34Speaker 3: Do you really think you guys are going to get
- 13:35Speaker 3: back together? Because it doesn't seem like you guys are
- 13:38Speaker 3: getting back together, and she's just there's so much she's
- 13:43Speaker 3: holding back, clearly from sharing with the audience. And I
- 13:46Speaker 3: think in a normal situation that'll be find But the
- 13:47Speaker 3: problem is you're on one of the most popular reality
- 13:49Speaker 3: television shows on the planet and I feel like I'm
- 13:53Speaker 3: wasting my time with Kyle. I'm really and I love
- 13:56Speaker 3: both calling her out on it, like I've really enjoyed that.
- 14:00Speaker 1: As a Kyle Richard stand and fan. I agree with
- 14:03Speaker 1: everything you're saying. I love her, and my issue is this,
- 14:08Speaker 1: when you are the face force multiplier queen Bee of
- 14:11Speaker 1: the show, with that position comes great power and responsibility
- 14:17Speaker 1: and effort. And because Kyle has shown how she let's
- 14:23Speaker 1: let's have a real conversation. When Denise Richards allegedly made
- 14:27Speaker 1: up of Brandy Glamville and they allegedly had something going on,
- 14:30Speaker 1: Kyle Richards and the rest of the girls did not
- 14:32Speaker 1: let up, on on on investigating.
- 14:36Speaker 3: I thought it was cruel. Then Crozworth thought that was
- 14:39Speaker 3: way too much. I felt like, you know again, I
- 14:41Speaker 3: felt like, if Denise had this relationship where sexual encounter,
- 14:45Speaker 3: she can be open about it. If she wants wants,
- 14:47Speaker 3: but I felt like they just bullied her about it,
- 14:49Speaker 3: and I thought that was unkind And no one's bullying
- 14:52Speaker 3: Kyle in this situation. And I think that was like
- 14:55Speaker 3: she was repeating rumors. Is that right? And it wasn't
- 14:57Speaker 3: you know, this is like she's bringing this woman around
- 15:00Speaker 3: all of us and taking pictures publicly and making music
- 15:03Speaker 3: videos and go into her concerts and like.
- 15:06Speaker 2: I don't know, no, Well, that's the thing.
- 15:08Speaker 1: I think to your point though, if Brandy and Denise
- 15:13Speaker 1: Richards had sex, Brandy, a non housewife right at the time,
- 15:21Speaker 1: revealed that and sort of exposed their relationship on camera,
- 15:28Speaker 1: and Denise Richards denied it and the girls kept pushing
- 15:31Speaker 1: her to be honest about it.
- 15:33Speaker 2: The difference between that is Denise Richards.
- 15:36Speaker 1: Did not bring Brandy around the girls and flirted with her, made,
- 15:40Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like or assimilated a sort
- 15:42Speaker 1: of like sexual relationship in the music video. I think
- 15:46Speaker 1: what Kyle did this is my opinion. The mistake Kyle
- 15:49Speaker 1: made Number one was introducing Morgan Waye to us last year.
- 15:53Speaker 1: The flirty conversations during the tattoo moment the fucking music
- 15:58Speaker 1: video was a lot to handle you can't give me.
- 16:03Speaker 1: It's like having children, and Megan, you have two beautiful kids.
- 16:07Speaker 1: You can't give your child all of these toys totally
- 16:10Speaker 1: and then take it away from them for a year
- 16:13Speaker 1: without without an explanation. And the only explanation we had was, well,
- 16:19Speaker 1: Morgan doesn't want to be mentioned.
- 16:21Speaker 2: That's fine, but at least say listen.
- 16:24Speaker 1: I can't break her name up. But what I can
- 16:26Speaker 1: say is I am experiencing something I never thought before,
- 16:31Speaker 1: and I really like this woman deeper than just a
- 16:34Speaker 1: friend like Teddy Mellacamp. And let's see where things go,
- 16:39Speaker 1: because I owe that to the audience due to the
- 16:42Speaker 1: sheer fact that I brought this woman on the show.
- 16:46Speaker 1: And that's where Kyle is losing a lot of people.
- 16:49Speaker 1: And as much as I try to find ways to
- 16:52Speaker 1: be like, okay, let me see her point of view,
- 16:54Speaker 1: I'm just being very honest here. It's very hard for
- 16:57Speaker 1: me to defend her and the worth of Kyle Richards
- 17:02Speaker 1: to her sister Kim in Amsterdam, when when Kim brought
- 17:06Speaker 1: up the husband's Lisa Rena, Kyle said to Kim, you
- 17:10Speaker 1: want me to defend you, but this is indefensible. That's
- 17:13Speaker 1: how I felt about my girl Kyle's indefensible.
- 17:16Speaker 3: Yeah, and I also think that, you know, because the
- 17:20Speaker 3: Morgan Wade of it all. I am a huge country
- 17:23Speaker 3: music fan. I'm from Arizona. Shooter Jettings played at my
- 17:26Speaker 3: wedding Grammy Award winning that's like hungable brag, but like
- 17:30Speaker 3: he has a lot of free cred in the country world.
- 17:33Speaker 3: I love country music. I'd never heard of Morgan Wade
- 17:35Speaker 3: before the show. I still have not heard of her
- 17:38Speaker 3: music in any of the stations. And she is not
- 17:40Speaker 3: a country star. I'm just saying it. And she's certainly
- 17:42Speaker 3: not an alternative country star. And so my take is
- 17:45Speaker 3: like on Morgan Wade's part, and I don't know her,
- 17:47Speaker 3: just my opinion, you guys, But like she was clearly
- 17:53Speaker 3: using Kyle for cloud and then like went in and
- 17:56Speaker 3: was like, oh, I actually like the heats too much.
- 17:59Speaker 3: I don't want to be a now And I'm like,
- 18:01Speaker 3: you're why do you not want to be associated with
- 18:03Speaker 3: the housewives anymore? It's a privilege to be a part
- 18:05Speaker 3: of like this incredible, iconic show. So like, I think
- 18:08Speaker 3: both of them are confused and mixed up on how
- 18:13Speaker 3: they do or do not want to utilize this enormous platform.
- 18:17Speaker 3: But you know, she's not whatever, like you know, Morgan Wallen,
- 18:23Speaker 3: Like she's not like some giant star filling up arenas.
- 18:26Speaker 3: And I just don't understand, Like to me, there's some
- 18:30Speaker 3: craven aspects of her role in this too. Chow.
- 18:34Speaker 1: We are just getting started. This is reality with the
- 18:47Speaker 1: King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.
- 18:54Speaker 1: I think last year, slash last season, Morgan wanted the
- 19:01Speaker 1: limelight right Well, you and I both know, Megan, the
- 19:04Speaker 1: moment you step on Housewives is a different thing that
- 19:07Speaker 1: you experienced and could it have been a lot, sure,
- 19:11Speaker 1: But I definitely think Kyle dangled the carrot didn't realize
- 19:17Speaker 1: how big of a deal was going to be. I think,
- 19:20Speaker 1: and Megan, you and I have spoken about this Handley.
- 19:22Speaker 1: Fame is very difficult for a lot of people because
- 19:25Speaker 1: you kind of want to do your thing and then
- 19:27Speaker 1: you don't realize the multitude of like what consert being famous.
- 19:32Speaker 1: I don't think Morgan mentally was able to handle the
- 19:36Speaker 1: Tsunamia thing she was experiencing. And then and like you said,
- 19:39Speaker 1: no shade to Morgan, no one knew about her so
- 19:43Speaker 1: to come from anonymity to being infamous within twenty four
- 19:48Speaker 1: hours will take a toning of mental health. And I
- 19:51Speaker 1: understand that. The problem, though, is Kyle is the face
- 19:54Speaker 1: of this show. So if Morgan doesn't want to tell
- 19:57Speaker 1: us that, fine, but Kyle, you you have you have
- 20:02Speaker 1: a duty to let us know something. And not only
- 20:07Speaker 1: aren't you letting us know that about Morgan, we still
- 20:10Speaker 1: don't fucking know what happened between you and Mauricio.
- 20:13Speaker 2: And I think, like, you guys were together for twenty years.
- 20:16Speaker 2: We saw you do.
- 20:17Speaker 1: Splits around him, y'all make out, He grabs your body
- 20:21Speaker 1: parts underneath the table, and these are things we saw
- 20:23Speaker 1: him on the show. You guys had a sexual, like
- 20:26Speaker 1: sexy marriage. You guys look great together, and then within
- 20:30Speaker 1: a season you guys are separated. There were rumors that
- 20:34Speaker 1: he was cheating for years. She always denied it, but
- 20:39Speaker 1: now it's sort of like, well, could that be the reason.
- 20:45Speaker 1: And I think Mauricio, in my opinion, I think Mauricio
- 20:49Speaker 1: saw the Morgan Way scandal and was like, why the
- 20:52Speaker 1: fuck am I'm not out here living my best life.
- 20:54Speaker 1: I don't think Mauricio wants Kyle anymore. I think I'm
- 20:58Speaker 1: gonna say this, mom Meg, We'll love me.
- 21:00Speaker 2: Get your thoughts.
- 21:02Speaker 1: When a man reaches his peak, when he's older, gets
- 21:07Speaker 1: more successful, makes a shitload of money, he wants other
- 21:12Speaker 1: things sometimes not ah Man some and I think Mauricio
- 21:16Speaker 1: is in his bad bitch era and he wants the
- 21:21Speaker 1: young hot girl, especially not that his daughters are pretty
- 21:27Speaker 1: much out of the house. Yeah.
- 21:29Speaker 3: And I also, to quote another housewife, Bethany Frankel, you
- 21:32Speaker 3: can't play smart and stupid at the same time. They're
- 21:35Speaker 3: trying to do both. I think they're both trying to
- 21:37Speaker 3: be like, you know, I want to have fame, I
- 21:40Speaker 3: want to be on this show, I want whatever. But
- 21:43Speaker 3: I'll like our relationships so confusing, and i can't figure
- 21:46Speaker 3: like it's not confusing. You guys cheated on each other
- 21:48Speaker 3: and you're separated, and you should get divorced for both
- 21:51Speaker 3: of your just like you know, like just your self worth.
- 21:55Speaker 3: I would just never let a man treat me this way.
- 21:58Speaker 3: And I would also just because I respect my husband,
- 22:01Speaker 3: I would never treat them that way. Like if I
- 22:03Speaker 3: was like out making music videos with women and having
- 22:06Speaker 3: you know, decided that I had more been in a
- 22:09Speaker 3: relationship with a woman, and I wanted to be, I
- 22:10Speaker 3: would not do I would not treat him that way.
- 22:13Speaker 3: We would deal with it privately, and then if I
- 22:14Speaker 3: were in a reality show, I would talk about it after.
- 22:16Speaker 3: And so I think the way they're all handling it
- 22:19Speaker 3: is despicable. But you're saying that, you know, he has
- 22:22Speaker 3: so much money, He's made so much money. I mean,
- 22:24Speaker 3: Kathy last night was saying that he doesn't have money.
- 22:27Speaker 3: What I didn't understand, Like, I'm like, is the agency
- 22:30Speaker 3: not as successful as I thought? Like that was the
- 22:33Speaker 3: shade that really caught me off guard. I was like,
- 22:36Speaker 3: does Mauricio not have money? Are they pretending to have money?
- 22:39Speaker 2: Like, I don't understand, I think, I think, I think.
- 22:42Speaker 1: What I think what Kathy was intimating was Mauricia does
- 22:48Speaker 1: not have Rick Hilt him money?
- 22:51Speaker 3: Who does? I mean?
- 22:52Speaker 5: Right?
- 22:52Speaker 1: Well, listen, right, that's that's the gay I think more. Listen,
- 22:56Speaker 1: the agency is very successful? Is it Rick Hilton sccessful? No,
- 23:01Speaker 1: but it's successful.
- 23:02Speaker 3: But but okay, here's something I heard though, is that
- 23:05Speaker 3: the agencies a franchise. Because I was under the impression
- 23:08Speaker 3: that he owned all of it, but apparently he does not.
- 23:10Speaker 3: He just owns like some of the and again it's
- 23:13Speaker 3: just something I read online, but like, and I know
- 23:16Speaker 3: they're absurdly wealthy by anybody's standard, you know, any regular
- 23:20Speaker 3: American standard. But I don't know. Just I have questions
- 23:23Speaker 3: now since Kathy said that, I don't know. I just
- 23:26Speaker 3: have questions. I always have questions about people who display
- 23:29Speaker 3: their wealth like that, you know, because you know, I
- 23:32Speaker 3: know really really rich people, and they're quiet and demure,
- 23:35Speaker 3: very mindful, very demure. They're not going around showing it off.
- 23:41Speaker 3: You know, they're not in their cyber trucks. They're like
- 23:43Speaker 3: quiet about it, at least the ones.
- 23:45Speaker 2: I know.
- 23:45Speaker 3: Maybe that's like a DC thing. I don't know.
- 23:47Speaker 2: No, it's it's what we call old money, Meggan.
- 23:50Speaker 1: You know people with old money, honey, who are like
- 23:53Speaker 1: very quiet about it.
- 23:55Speaker 2: Bots and bots.
- 23:56Speaker 1: You know, it's like that, honey, because you know, you
- 23:59Speaker 1: look at someone like Nicky Hilton's husband, James Rothschild.
- 24:04Speaker 2: You don't see James Rothschaw even a cyber truck and.
- 24:07Speaker 3: Flying totally totally.
- 24:10Speaker 1: But no, So, Megan, let's talk about the Kathy shade.
- 24:14Speaker 1: So you may know this, but I'll remind you remember
- 24:18Speaker 1: Mauricio used to work for the Hilton Brand.
- 24:21Speaker 3: Yes, they had like a breakup, right, Yes.
- 24:24Speaker 2: A bad one, a very bad one.
- 24:27Speaker 3: Because I'm like clients, right, is that right? Like?
- 24:31Speaker 2: So allegedly.
- 24:34Speaker 1: When Maurice, Okay, Mauricio and Kyle when they were young parents,
- 24:39Speaker 1: they both got their real estate license at around the
- 24:43Speaker 1: same time, right, so they studied for it obviously, which listen,
- 24:48Speaker 1: one thing I love about you, Megan, You're like, I'm
- 24:51Speaker 1: a NEPO baby and I don't give a fuck.
- 24:53Speaker 2: I still work right like on your shit. Right.
- 24:57Speaker 1: So obviously Rick hill Ten is married to Kyle's sister, Kathy.
- 25:03Speaker 1: So my brother in law owns this agency. Me and
- 25:06Speaker 1: my husband got a real estate license, what's next? So
- 25:10Speaker 1: he he.
- 25:10Speaker 3: Worked for dynamic. By the way, it would be like, yes,
- 25:14Speaker 3: it's an interesting dynamic. It'd be like if one of
- 25:16Speaker 3: someone I was related to married someone who decided to
- 25:19Speaker 3: get into political commentary, Like that's an interesting dynamic for
- 25:22Speaker 3: their family. I'm just saying, like it's you know, I'm
- 25:26Speaker 3: just saying I can see what Kathy and Rick maybe
- 25:28Speaker 3: had issues with it. I don't love it. Sorry, I
- 25:32Speaker 3: think about that. This thing is kind of weird, Like
- 25:35Speaker 3: to choose the industry that your in law is an
- 25:38Speaker 3: icon and comes from an iconic family from sorry you
- 25:42Speaker 3: look so.
- 25:42Speaker 1: Shocked, Well you know that's my my friends because you listen,
- 25:48Speaker 1: because you're not. Come from two different worlds, and the
- 25:51Speaker 1: beauty of our friendship is the fact that we're both
- 25:53Speaker 1: like magmatist, like, what do you think about this? I'm like,
- 25:56Speaker 1: girl that that she said. Okay, I thought that too.
- 25:58Speaker 1: By the way, I like assume so I'm dagging because
- 26:01Speaker 1: I'm like, I never thought of it that way. It's
- 26:04Speaker 1: one thing if my sister met a real estate agent exactly,
- 26:09Speaker 1: but they both got their license doing their marriage, while
- 26:13Speaker 1: my sister's husband owns the fucking Hilton courtesy of like
- 26:17Speaker 1: family generational wealth and handoff so.
- 26:20Speaker 3: Famous hotel chain on the planet, I mean beyond.
- 26:25Speaker 2: So there you have it. So then Megan.
- 26:30Speaker 1: Rick decided to start his own agency while he was
- 26:33Speaker 1: working at the Hilton, and this is alleged, alleged. Allegedly,
- 26:39Speaker 1: Rick Hilton said obviously you can go, but don't take
- 26:44Speaker 1: this particular person, and allegedly Marizio took that person and
- 26:48Speaker 1: that's how this whole beef started and they didn't speak
- 26:50Speaker 1: for years.
- 26:52Speaker 3: What I also think is interesting is that Paris Fulton
- 26:54Speaker 3: has attacked Mauricio publicly, and I just again, I'm really
- 26:58Speaker 3: not trying to throw things around, but this is like
- 27:00Speaker 3: important in the context of this. So, of all things,
- 27:03Speaker 3: my mother is friends with Paris Hilton because they've worked
- 27:05Speaker 3: on a bunch of sex trafficking bills together, checked their receipts.
- 27:09Speaker 3: Paris Hilton and my mom call each other on Instagram
- 27:11Speaker 3: and sometimes she comments on my mom's Instagram, which never
- 27:13Speaker 3: doesn't entertain me.
- 27:15Speaker 2: Yeah, Sadey mckainn you legend exactly.
- 27:18Speaker 3: She has the nicest things to say about Paris Hilton. Classy, smart, kind, respectful,
- 27:25Speaker 3: everyone gets selfie with everybody. Paris Hilton also came to
- 27:27Speaker 3: DC like a few month ago, a few months ago
- 27:31Speaker 3: to also talk about this bill. Because she was sexually
- 27:33Speaker 3: abused when she was at a boarding school. Everyone I
- 27:35Speaker 3: know interact with her, I mean, could not say the
- 27:38Speaker 3: nicest things. I don't know these people, but I think
- 27:41Speaker 3: the Hilmes are pretty classy. So for Paris to come
- 27:44Speaker 3: out and say things about Mauricio, I can only imagine
- 27:46Speaker 3: they were pushed pretty far. That's all I have to say.
- 27:50Speaker 2: Well, now it was bad.
- 27:51Speaker 1: It was bad, and the fact that she publicly did
- 27:54Speaker 1: this on social media in defense of her father because
- 27:57Speaker 1: of what I just said. The the allegations that I
- 28:01Speaker 1: made about what happened between Rick and Mauricio is all alleged,
- 28:05Speaker 1: but Mauricio said those things on his Netflix show, and
- 28:08Speaker 1: that's when that's when Paris felt the need to defend
- 28:11Speaker 1: her father. And obviously we all can understand defending her
- 28:14Speaker 1: family member. So the shade that Kathy threw to Mauricio
- 28:21Speaker 1: at the end of the day, she probably doesn't feel
- 28:26Speaker 1: the need to defend her brother in law who made
- 28:29Speaker 1: this sort of decision. And she also just shaded the
- 28:34Speaker 1: fact that like move on, and and and she and
- 28:38Speaker 1: she started to do you cash this? She started to
- 28:41Speaker 1: talk about the cheating, and Kyle stopped her.
- 28:43Speaker 3: Okay, why won't they move on? What are they what
- 28:47Speaker 3: are they both still gaining by this? Is it just
- 28:48Speaker 3: like the cat and mouse intrigue of it, which I
- 28:51Speaker 3: think everyone's collectively sick of. But I just I don't understand.
- 28:54Speaker 3: I don't understand when either of them want to get divorced.
- 28:57Speaker 3: Is a money thing?
- 28:58Speaker 2: I think some money thing. I think this.
- 29:01Speaker 1: I'm not sure if this was ever public, so I
- 29:03Speaker 1: don't know rain drops, tell me if it was. I
- 29:07Speaker 1: don't know if there's a pre nup sign because when
- 29:10Speaker 1: they got married, they were both not wealthy. Right, there's
- 29:13Speaker 1: a lot of money at stake in this, in this divorce,
- 29:17Speaker 1: and I think when it comes to and I would
- 29:20Speaker 1: love to get your thoughts on this, Megan, you obviously know.
- 29:22Speaker 2: A lot of wealthy people owed money. I know some.
- 29:25Speaker 2: I don't know a lot, but okay, well no more.
- 29:28Speaker 5: Than me, all right, So that's a lot to well
- 29:31Speaker 5: question for you when it comes to the image that
- 29:36Speaker 5: you have to portray to the world.
- 29:39Speaker 1: Is this normal and high society that we have to
- 29:45Speaker 1: protect the image of the family, and let's go about
- 29:48Speaker 1: this divorce quietly.
- 29:49Speaker 3: That's definitely a thing. I actually know a couple that
- 29:52Speaker 3: thought they're like separate. They're separated, but they're not officially
- 29:56Speaker 3: like they don't think they file paperwork, but they're like old.
- 29:59Speaker 3: They're like, I mean, I think he's in the seventies
- 30:02Speaker 3: and sixties, like they're like, it's sort of like a
- 30:06Speaker 3: understood And the only reason why I even found out
- 30:07Speaker 3: was because he had a girlfriend or like a woman
- 30:09Speaker 3: that he was bringing around that was not his wife.
- 30:11Speaker 3: And I was like, uh, does someone want to tell
- 30:12Speaker 3: me what's happening here? So, like, I don't know. I
- 30:14Speaker 3: think if you're in a reality TV show and you're
- 30:16Speaker 3: only you know, I think they're both What are they
- 30:17Speaker 3: like sixty? Like they're they're not that old? Like how
- 30:20Speaker 3: old are they? Don't know how old they are?
- 30:21Speaker 2: Like old Kyle?
- 30:23Speaker 3: How old are they?
- 30:24Speaker 2: They're not their sixties, Meggied?
- 30:27Speaker 3: How old are they? Late fifties? I'm not. I literally
- 30:31Speaker 3: thought she was like sixty. Sorry, how old is she?
- 30:33Speaker 2: Oh, Kyle?
- 30:35Speaker 3: Yeah, hold on, I'm looking this up.
- 30:38Speaker 2: Look me.
- 30:44Speaker 3: Also, I'm sorry. I wasn't that far off. So sorry,
- 30:47Speaker 3: I got more off. I don't mean that at large,
- 30:50Speaker 3: Like if I'm fifty six, I'm not. You're not seventy,
- 30:54Speaker 3: you're not, Like, but I don't know they have kids,
- 30:57Speaker 3: they have whatever, KYLERI just gonna unt my I asked down,
- 31:00Speaker 3: trying and burn my house down after this conversation.
- 31:04Speaker 2: Anything wrong.
- 31:06Speaker 3: I don't like her this season on the show.
- 31:08Speaker 2: I don't.
- 31:10Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I just don't. And I'm not obsessed with
- 31:12Speaker 3: Sutton even though you are.
- 31:14Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about Sun.
- 31:16Speaker 3: Okay, I tell me why you like her? Still?
- 31:20Speaker 2: Okay? No, no, no, So I'm gonna be so the
- 31:22Speaker 2: thing that you know about me, You and.
- 31:24Speaker 1: I see things and we're like, oh, they're playing up
- 31:29Speaker 1: for the camera.
- 31:29Speaker 2: They're being fake. This isn't real on bored right.
- 31:33Speaker 1: Last week's episode, when she pretty much told to read
- 31:37Speaker 1: my wile is bigger, I have just.
- 31:40Speaker 3: Disgusting to subd Sorry. I really hated so, I really, really,
- 31:49Speaker 3: really really had our strong reaction to that, because a
- 31:53Speaker 3: the idea that someone's self worth is based off how
- 31:55Speaker 3: much money they have is just bullshit. Some of the
- 31:56Speaker 3: grossest people I know are some Diesel money people are
- 32:00Speaker 3: people I've met, and some of the most incredible people
- 32:02Speaker 3: I know. You know, Like, so you're saying, like every
- 32:05Speaker 3: teacher who makes you know whatever, teachers are paid almost nothing,
- 32:09Speaker 3: you know whatever, fifty grand a year, forty grand year,
- 32:11Speaker 3: sixty grand year, whatever. Teachers you know, they don't make anything.
- 32:14Speaker 3: They should be paid so much more. You're saying they
- 32:15Speaker 3: don't have worth. I just thought it was just repulsive
- 32:20Speaker 3: thing to say, And I didn't understand where she's like,
- 32:23Speaker 3: my wallet's bigger, my wallet's bigger. It's like, you know,
- 32:26Speaker 3: you're not Jeff Bezos Number one and number two is
- 32:29Speaker 3: this is how you value your friends. I wondered how
- 32:31Speaker 3: Garcel felt about that, because she's a self made woman.
- 32:33Speaker 3: She didn't get her money from her husband I'm aware of.
- 32:36Speaker 3: I mean, she seems to work very hard on the show,
- 32:38Speaker 3: producing movies and acting and doing all these things. And
- 32:41Speaker 3: I just felt like, if you're Garceler, you like, oh
- 32:43Speaker 3: do you judge me? Because I don't have you know, whatever,
- 32:47Speaker 3: Jeff Bezos money. I just really, I really really really
- 32:52Speaker 3: thought it was disgusting, and it's why I don't like Sudden.
- 32:56Speaker 3: I just think it's just trashy and mean. Sorry I know.
- 33:00Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, let's have real conversation. So
- 33:05Speaker 1: first of all, this is my favorite episode so far. Okay, anyway,
- 33:09Speaker 1: I love it because I love it when because you
- 33:11Speaker 1: and I are just like, we're really honest and we
- 33:13Speaker 1: don't say shit for like, oh let me just sound
- 33:16Speaker 1: good for them. No, we say the real ship, which
- 33:18Speaker 1: is why you're not both like Zach Peters and a
- 33:20Speaker 1: bunch of other friends.
- 33:21Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 33:21Speaker 2: Yeah, like we say how we feel.
- 33:23Speaker 3: So look all this straight shooters.
- 33:25Speaker 1: Yeah, the McDonald we love, like we love straight Shooters.
- 33:28Speaker 1: This is what I'll say. I have called out Ston
- 33:32Speaker 1: ever since she got on the show in terms of
- 33:34Speaker 1: I want to see the real soon and I always
- 33:37Speaker 1: felt that sutt and play to the audience. I was
- 33:40Speaker 1: the first one to mention I don't believe in the
- 33:45Speaker 1: gar Cel and Son friendship. I think it's a friendship
- 33:48Speaker 1: of convenience, because I said two years ago, I just
- 33:52Speaker 1: don't believe in my heart that if Garseell was not
- 33:56Speaker 1: on the show, that's a Sudden Strap would be friends
- 33:59Speaker 1: with her.
- 33:59Speaker 2: I I never believed it, and unfortunately I.
- 34:03Speaker 3: Only wants to be friends with like pajillionaires.
- 34:05Speaker 2: Is that yeah?
- 34:06Speaker 1: I think I think this and I'm connected to what
- 34:10Speaker 1: she said in last week's episode. I Sutten gives me
- 34:14Speaker 1: a social climber and that's nothing negative, like it is
- 34:17Speaker 1: what it is. Sudden gives me old school Southern woman
- 34:22Speaker 1: who who comes from money and there's a certain circle
- 34:26Speaker 1: of people she wants to be around, which is why
- 34:28Speaker 1: she got into it. Willis sa Rena about the Elton
- 34:31Speaker 1: John tickets the foundation, like I bought the table, you
- 34:33Speaker 1: need to pay me back, like she which is fine,
- 34:35Speaker 1: Which is fine. Something then became like to me safe
- 34:39Speaker 1: for Twitter, and when I made that comment about the
- 34:43Speaker 1: alliance of her and guard Sells friendship. Oh Megan, you
- 34:46Speaker 1: thought I said something negative about their character, And then
- 34:51Speaker 1: both Sudden and Guard subm mad to comment about my statement.
- 34:54Speaker 1: I then ran into Sutton at a restaurant.
- 34:58Speaker 2: I introduced myself to her, he and Megan. She was lovely.
- 35:02Speaker 1: I explained myself to her, and she and I had
- 35:06Speaker 1: a great conversation. I ran to Garsell, I explained myself
- 35:10Speaker 1: to her. She and I had a great conversation. I
- 35:13Speaker 1: just said, like this is I'm recapping the fucking episode.
- 35:16Speaker 1: That's all I'm doing. I don't mean to like diss
- 35:18Speaker 1: you guys as people. That's not my attention. Long story short,
- 35:23Speaker 1: but Sun said to Durret to me is the real Sutton?
- 35:27Speaker 1: And when I said, I'm a slut and finally, what
- 35:30Speaker 1: I meant by that is finally you're showing who you are.
- 35:33Speaker 1: Not granted, it's not a statement that it's popular, but
- 35:39Speaker 1: I appreciate anybody who's brave enough to be themselves on
- 35:42Speaker 1: camera and who can face the backlash from a statement
- 35:46Speaker 1: like that, because I do agree with you.
- 35:48Speaker 2: I even said, like, well, Sutton, this is no shade.
- 35:51Speaker 1: A lot of people are saying, no shade, girl, is
- 35:54Speaker 1: not like you were the one clocking in at work
- 35:57Speaker 1: sixty hours a week. Like you know, your money's capped
- 36:01Speaker 1: at three point fifty which is a lot of money,
- 36:03Speaker 1: three hundred fifty thousand a month. But some people can
- 36:06Speaker 1: argue something that's your alimony. Again, there's tons of arguments.
- 36:12Speaker 1: So when it comes to something, I want her to
- 36:15Speaker 1: be her son because I don't watch the show to
- 36:17Speaker 1: see people play it safe. I don't watch the show
- 36:19Speaker 1: to see people play up to the cameras. And I
- 36:22Speaker 1: agree with you about Garcel. I set my podcast. I
- 36:26Speaker 1: love Garcel. I need for Garsel and they just take
- 36:30Speaker 1: their reunion last Friday, Megan, I need Garcel to call
- 36:36Speaker 1: out what you and I both text about. What all
- 36:40Speaker 1: of my friends text me about. What's the microaggressions of
- 36:45Speaker 1: Sutton's mother riba.
- 36:49Speaker 3: Time watching that, Joe Megan text me, I.
- 36:53Speaker 2: Did if I'm able to share? Megan. Megan text me
- 36:56Speaker 2: and was like, how do you feel about that scene?
- 37:00Speaker 1: And I said I'm uncomfortable and she said, okay, thank
- 37:02Speaker 1: god I feel the same way. And I said, no,
- 37:04Speaker 1: I'm very uncomfortable. Garcel called out Derrie. She has to
- 37:10Speaker 1: call out Reba like it is what it is, and
- 37:14Speaker 1: you're right. If Dree would have made that statement about
- 37:17Speaker 1: her wallet being bigger than bows, oh my gosh, it
- 37:22Speaker 1: would have been World War three to me on that tape,
- 37:25Speaker 1: I'm at that table with Garcel. And when Garcel and
- 37:30Speaker 1: Deury had that scene in this episode where she said, yeah,
- 37:34Speaker 1: I don't like what Sun said.
- 37:36Speaker 2: Well, Garcel, honey, you just say it then.
- 37:40Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, called her out the.
- 37:42Speaker 1: Way you called out Bowls defending Derie, call out Son
- 37:45Speaker 1: and say Son, I love you.
- 37:46Speaker 2: That's fucking gross.
- 37:48Speaker 3: I think part of the thing, too, is when you
- 37:50Speaker 3: have friends, so genuine friends, people screw up. I mean,
- 37:53Speaker 3: I ask you advice on lots of different things that
- 37:56Speaker 3: are not just reality show driven, because sometimes there's one
- 38:00Speaker 3: other opinion from someone I trust and you know, think
- 38:03Speaker 3: is smart. And I think part of the problem with
- 38:06Speaker 3: Garcela is when you're so a tunnel vision about someone
- 38:09Speaker 3: you love or you know, I assume she loves her
- 38:11Speaker 3: if they're that close to friends. You also have to
- 38:14Speaker 3: see the forest for the trees. It's important to keep
- 38:16Speaker 3: clarity and transparency and honesty. And I think Garcel's really
- 38:19Speaker 3: hurt herself this season. I like Garcel. I think she's
- 38:22Speaker 3: just like one of the most beautiful women that's ever
- 38:24Speaker 3: been on Housewives. Like I was even thinking that last night,
- 38:27Speaker 3: Like she's just her face and her God Like, she's
- 38:30Speaker 3: just a gorgeous woman. I mean, like stunning and.
- 38:33Speaker 1: Parts of the meggot she's she's im Parson Garcel's beauty is
- 38:37Speaker 1: late though she's in Parson's everything.
- 38:41Speaker 3: She's really like very striking. Like I don't know if
- 38:44Speaker 3: it's like, you know, I don't hope that doesn't sound weird.
- 38:46Speaker 3: I just you know, she's obviously you're not on that
- 38:49Speaker 3: show if you're not, you know, beautiful. But I I
- 38:53Speaker 3: think that she's hurt herself a little bit too. I'm
- 38:55Speaker 3: like a fan of hers. I like her work. I
- 38:58Speaker 3: like what she's doing. I like that she's sort of
- 38:59Speaker 3: self made. I want more from her in general dating,
- 39:04Speaker 3: you know, if she's going to be shooting her show,
- 39:05Speaker 3: is there any like drama on some of these movies
- 39:07Speaker 3: she's making. I don't like her just being set in sidekick.
- 39:11Speaker 3: I think she can give us a lot more than that.
- 39:13Speaker 3: I don't think she should be off the show. I
- 39:15Speaker 3: know some people are saying that because she's had not
- 39:16Speaker 3: a great season. I don't agree with that, but I
- 39:19Speaker 3: think there's got to be a real come to Jesus
- 39:21Speaker 3: with producers and this cast for next season, because this
- 39:25Speaker 3: is unsustainable for me and Sutt And again, like I
- 39:28Speaker 3: just I feel bad for her mom because her mom's
- 39:32Speaker 3: like eighty two or something, and you know, eighty two
- 39:35Speaker 3: year old Southern people, there's a stereotype about them. But
- 39:39Speaker 3: that moment was awful and made me extremely uncomfortable. I mean,
- 39:44Speaker 3: not to get like too heavy with you. My sister
- 39:47Speaker 3: Bridget is not white, she's adopted, and it reminded me
- 39:50Speaker 3: somewhat of like the way certain people would talk to
- 39:53Speaker 3: me versus where they would talk to her in different
- 39:56Speaker 3: kind of social situations. So like, you know, I may
- 39:59Speaker 3: be like a white nappo baby Republican, but I'm well
- 40:02Speaker 3: aware of what a microaggression is and what racial bias
- 40:05Speaker 3: looks like. And I really thought it was very disrespectful
- 40:10Speaker 3: to Garcel. And I just you see the way she
- 40:12Speaker 3: was treating Kyle versus the way she was treating Garcel,
- 40:14Speaker 3: and it was rough. It's dark and it's rough and
- 40:19Speaker 3: it's sad. But I agree, if I were Garcel, I
- 40:22Speaker 3: would have said something yeah, no, and I want the
- 40:24Speaker 3: world to know.
- 40:24Speaker 2: Not that you need this, but I'm just being honest here.
- 40:27Speaker 1: You text me the moment it happened, and I didn't
- 40:29Speaker 1: watch the episode yet. You said, did you watched this scene?
- 40:31Speaker 1: I said, I'm actually gonna watch it tonight, and you said, well,
- 40:34Speaker 1: text me after you watch it. And then I texted
- 40:36Speaker 1: me and said, oh, honey, what the fucking you said? Okay,
- 40:40Speaker 1: I'm not the only one, right, I'm like, oh, numb, honey.
- 40:43Speaker 1: As a black person, I was so uncomfortable. And I
- 40:49Speaker 1: felt bad for Garcel too, because she kept trying hard,
- 40:52Speaker 1: and Reebu just didn't want to give her that. And
- 40:55Speaker 1: then I think I'll tell you this, Megan. She regifted
- 40:59Speaker 1: the scar back to Garcil.
- 41:01Speaker 3: Oh oh my god, how do you know that that
- 41:04Speaker 3: wasn't on the.
- 41:05Speaker 2: Shop and on an after show.
- 41:08Speaker 3: Oh that's so bad. I didn't got the scarf thing either.
- 41:12Speaker 3: If somebody gave me a beautiful scarf, like you know,
- 41:15Speaker 3: presented that way, I would be so great, like excited.
- 41:19Speaker 3: I didn't that even that I didn't understand. It's like
- 41:21Speaker 3: they're giving you this beautiful gift as a house sermon gift,
- 41:24Speaker 3: and again, like I don't like stereotype people. But I
- 41:26Speaker 3: also think when people show you their behavior and show
- 41:28Speaker 3: you who they are, you should believe them. And I
- 41:31Speaker 3: don't actually need any more but just for like what
- 41:33Speaker 3: it's worth. Like and again, I'm not trying to like
- 41:35Speaker 3: punch down to an elder lady because like whatever, I
- 41:39Speaker 3: don't need any more read the storylines. I don't need
- 41:42Speaker 3: to hear about it. I don't need a relationship with
- 41:44Speaker 3: her mom. I don't honestly give a shit. I also think,
- 41:47Speaker 3: like again, like in the age range they're in, I'm forty,
- 41:51Speaker 3: like get over your mom and dad issues, Like you
- 41:54Speaker 3: you got to, like at a certain point, you've got
- 41:56Speaker 3: to take ownership of like who you are and how
- 41:57Speaker 3: you behave. And I'm I'm lucky I don't have those
- 42:00Speaker 3: kind of issues because I had great parents. But I
- 42:03Speaker 3: just feel like therapy is good for everybody. And it
- 42:06Speaker 3: was it's like very clear that needs some like very
- 42:08Speaker 3: serious therapy. And I don't want to be on this
- 42:09Speaker 3: journey with her. I don't care her. I don't I've
- 42:13Speaker 3: had enough. And even last night at the ending of
- 42:14Speaker 3: her fashion shows, you was like my mom, I couldn't
- 42:16Speaker 3: be here in my mind, and I was like, do
- 42:18Speaker 3: you I don't care. I don't care about this plot
- 42:20Speaker 3: with your no vine, but I just don't care. I've
- 42:26Speaker 3: had so much of enough of Sutton in her mom Like,
- 42:29Speaker 3: I just it's weird. It's like a weird plot line.
- 42:33Speaker 3: And again, is all of this just to not do dating?
- 42:35Speaker 3: Is this so she like doesn't have a dating plot line?
- 42:39Speaker 2: Megan, you know, your girl after my own heart. So
- 42:45Speaker 2: I want to say.
- 42:46Speaker 3: You've damaged yourself because you're still a fan of hers.
- 42:49Speaker 2: So do you think, Well, that's the thing.
- 42:52Speaker 1: I'm a fan of somebody who's real, Like, for example,
- 42:55Speaker 1: I'm not somebody who okay.
- 42:58Speaker 2: Okay, perfect example.
- 43:00Speaker 1: I loved you the moment I saw you on the
- 43:03Speaker 1: View as a fan.
- 43:05Speaker 2: Right, Everybody was like, why do you like her?
- 43:08Speaker 1: I'm like, I said that Megan McCain, Honey, she sits
- 43:13Speaker 1: on that panel and she fights for her opinion to
- 43:18Speaker 1: be heard. And even if I don't agree with what
- 43:23Speaker 1: she's saying, I appreciate somebody with a different view. And
- 43:27Speaker 1: then when I got a chance to meet you, and
- 43:30Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, she's actually nicer in person.
- 43:35Speaker 1: And then we started to like talk and hang, I'm like, oh,
- 43:38Speaker 1: my god, She's everything. So for me, I like anybody
- 43:43Speaker 1: who's like my opinion may not be the most popular,
- 43:48Speaker 1: but this is who I am and that's why I
- 43:52Speaker 1: love you so much. That's why I liked something last
- 43:55Speaker 1: week's episode. But the thing that needs to happen with
- 43:59Speaker 1: these reality stars, and this is the question you're asking
- 44:02Speaker 1: me too.
- 44:03Speaker 2: Are we getting the rib A.
- 44:04Speaker 1: Storyline because we're not getting dating. I will say this
- 44:07Speaker 1: to you, and I'm just being honest. I think the
- 44:08Speaker 1: reason why our girl, Erica Jane is not going to
- 44:11Speaker 1: give the dating storyline is because the moment you show
- 44:14Speaker 1: your man on TV, and in this case, when Kyle
- 44:16Speaker 1: showcased Morgan her friend, all bests are off in terms
- 44:21Speaker 1: of you having any more secret dates. So it's the
- 44:24Speaker 1: reason why we're not seeing Kim Kardashian date reality stars
- 44:28Speaker 1: who are single, Sutton Garsel, Erica Jane. Let's be clear,
- 44:34Speaker 1: they're dating somebody.
- 44:36Speaker 3: Sure they have to be great.
- 44:39Speaker 2: Those three beautiful women. You mean to tell me there's
- 44:43Speaker 2: not a.
- 44:44Speaker 3: My knowledge, and again, I don't think I'm exposing anything.
- 44:47Speaker 3: I don't think Erica has a boyfriend.
- 44:48Speaker 2: Not a boyfriend dating. Okay, I feel like I see
- 44:54Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell youho.
- 44:54Speaker 1: I see Erica Jane with so Erica Jane, you're listening
- 44:57Speaker 1: because she loves you, Megan, and she said, Carlo, thank
- 44:59Speaker 1: you so much. You obviously speak holly of me. I'm like,
- 45:01Speaker 1: I love you, Erica. I love Erica. When it was
- 45:03Speaker 1: unpowerulus to love Erica, I said, when Erica said, what
- 45:06Speaker 1: the fuck about me?
- 45:07Speaker 2: Fuck that shit? Like what about me?
- 45:09Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, bitch, I agree with you, Okay, I digress.
- 45:14Speaker 1: I see Erica Jane, our friend with a hot young
- 45:19Speaker 1: man who's just like you know, listen, listen.
- 45:23Speaker 2: Is he Tom Geraldy wealthy?
- 45:25Speaker 1: Maybe not, but he's somebody that has enough money to
- 45:30Speaker 1: pick up the check. He's somebody who has enough money
- 45:33Speaker 1: to send a black car to pick her up for
- 45:34Speaker 1: a date, you know what I mean. They fly commercial,
- 45:37Speaker 1: but he's he's buying first class tickets.
- 45:40Speaker 2: That's who I see her with.
- 45:41Speaker 1: And and he's super hot and he's he's like just
- 45:46Speaker 1: into her.
- 45:48Speaker 2: I don't see eric with the older man ever again.
- 45:51Speaker 3: So I can see it both ways. I could see
- 45:54Speaker 3: her with like a retired football player, like like for it,
- 45:59Speaker 3: like some I don't cafolla sports. I don't know, I
- 46:02Speaker 3: like very little blesswords with like or basketball there or whatever,
- 46:05Speaker 3: like an ex athlete, but like a known person, like
- 46:09Speaker 3: someone who like you would know the name of and
- 46:11Speaker 3: then or And I feel like I have told her this,
- 46:15Speaker 3: and if I haven't, then Eric, if you're listening, I
- 46:16Speaker 3: will say it again. I can actually see her with
- 46:19Speaker 3: a real DC power person like I could see like
- 46:23Speaker 3: and I'm not saying like Democrat or Republican. I'm just saying, like,
- 46:27Speaker 3: you know, someone who had held a cabinet position in
- 46:30Speaker 3: the Obama White House, a high level maybe not like
- 46:34Speaker 3: you know, complete at their peak right now, but someone
- 46:37Speaker 3: who's like extremely well respected, maybe still has a secret
- 46:39Speaker 3: service detail because they have like you know, I actually
- 46:43Speaker 3: can see her playing a great girlfriend role to someone
- 46:46Speaker 3: like that because she is so presentable in every social situation,
- 46:51Speaker 3: and she's extremely extremely well versed on politics. She is
- 46:56Speaker 3: very very smartness. We saw it, she talked about it
- 46:59Speaker 3: in like a few see and ago, like she was
- 47:01Speaker 3: talking with remember she was talking with like someone at
- 47:03Speaker 3: the dinner table when they were in France.
- 47:05Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 47:08Speaker 3: I feel like she could really be and I, you know,
- 47:12Speaker 3: like if I see someone but that's who I personally
- 47:14Speaker 3: see her with I could see her with like a
- 47:16Speaker 3: real power player.
- 47:18Speaker 2: Well, Meghan, sorry, you know, no, no, no, that's my husband.
- 47:23Speaker 3: And I are always thinking about it. But she's she's
- 47:26Speaker 3: a Democrat, so it's a little trick here for me
- 47:31Speaker 3: also as much or an independent. I don't remember which
- 47:34Speaker 3: one she is.
- 47:34Speaker 2: Actually, I missed the days where I forgot that. There's
- 47:40Speaker 2: a couple.
- 47:41Speaker 1: I can't think of them right now, but I think
- 47:43Speaker 1: it's so dope when a Republican and a Democrat like
- 47:47Speaker 1: in a relationship.
- 47:48Speaker 3: My favorite, it's my favorite. I like Carville and his wife.
- 47:51Speaker 3: It's my favorite. James Carville, the famous UH statist, don't work?
- 47:57Speaker 3: Get him and his wife. He was a because he
- 48:00Speaker 3: was advising Clinton and she was advising Bush.
- 48:03Speaker 2: So good.
- 48:04Speaker 1: I would love to sit at a table with a
- 48:08Speaker 1: couple where once a Republican wants a Democrat and they
- 48:12Speaker 1: just have a different point of view. But it's respectful
- 48:14Speaker 1: and it's interesting. I think it keeps a relationship sexy.
- 48:18Speaker 1: So I can see Erica with somebody who's like a
- 48:25Speaker 1: hot young Republican.
- 48:26Speaker 2: I would love to talk about that.
- 48:28Speaker 1: But what was that Erica Jane Kennedy?
- 48:32Speaker 3: I could just see her with a power player, like
- 48:34Speaker 3: with a ken, like with a like you know, like
- 48:37Speaker 3: someone with a notable last name, you know, like I
- 48:41Speaker 3: could definitely see it, Like I don't know. I just
- 48:43Speaker 3: think maybe I know her in a different context too.
- 48:47Speaker 2: Friends.
- 48:47Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's just very sophisticated, very smart, like like
- 48:52Speaker 3: obviously there's this like it's expensive to be me showgirl
- 48:55Speaker 3: aspect of her. But I don't know, I could just
- 48:57Speaker 3: see her with like a real I think she needs
- 48:59Speaker 3: to be with one at her level power wise, though
- 49:02Speaker 3: I don't think she can punch down. I think she
- 49:04Speaker 3: needs someone who is going to meet her at her like,
- 49:08Speaker 3: you know, where she What is it that there's a
- 49:11Speaker 3: I saw a thing. It's like stand in your light,
- 49:14Speaker 3: Like I want her to stand in her light and
- 49:15Speaker 3: have her partner stand in their light too. Does that
- 49:17Speaker 3: make sense?
- 49:18Speaker 1: It makes total sense. It makes total sense. So last
- 49:21Speaker 1: question for you, my sweet love.
- 49:23Speaker 3: Last question.
- 49:25Speaker 1: I know I talk to all day, like all day,
- 49:30Speaker 1: Last question, babe. We all believe that there needs to
- 49:34Speaker 1: be a shake up on the Real Housewives of Belly Hills.
- 49:38Speaker 1: So Megan McCain, you political pundit, you, you pop.
- 49:43Speaker 4: Culture enthusiast, you reality watch her You who do you
- 49:50Speaker 4: think should return to the next season of the Real
- 49:54Speaker 4: Housewives of Belly Hills.
- 49:56Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, anybody from the past? I mean, look,
- 49:59Speaker 3: I'm a Lisa Rena stand forever. I love Lisa Rena.
- 50:03Speaker 3: I think she's cool. I think she's smart. I like
- 50:05Speaker 3: that she like shakes things up, So I would love
- 50:08Speaker 3: to see her come back. I don't know if she
- 50:10Speaker 3: and Andy are in a good place. And I think,
- 50:12Speaker 3: like she.
- 50:13Speaker 2: Was on his radio show last week, was it good?
- 50:18Speaker 1: I believe she apologized to him for some of her tweets,
- 50:21Speaker 1: so things seem to be okay.
- 50:24Speaker 3: Is there anybody from like the way way back that?
- 50:27Speaker 2: Oh?
- 50:27Speaker 3: I liked Crystal. I would like Crystal to come back.
- 50:30Speaker 3: I found myself missing her this season.
- 50:33Speaker 2: I like her.
- 50:33Speaker 3: Oh I know that's all take for you, but I
- 50:36Speaker 3: really like Crystal. I always did. That one was like
- 50:38Speaker 3: I was one of the few. But I like her,
- 50:41Speaker 3: and I like some of her podcasts stuff and some
- 50:43Speaker 3: of the stuff she's been saying on I think, like
- 50:45Speaker 3: Jeff Lewis's show that gets on online.
- 50:49Speaker 2: Is there anyone you think I the thing?
- 50:52Speaker 1: And this is why I love reality stars, because one
- 50:55Speaker 1: season I can like really be into you, and the
- 50:57Speaker 1: other season be like I don't know, girl, and some
- 50:59Speaker 1: of the like I don't like it. This season, I
- 51:02Speaker 1: love Lie Saena.
- 51:03Speaker 2: I think this is my opinion.
- 51:07Speaker 1: Lisa Renna gave so much to that show, and I
- 51:10Speaker 1: think I think she had a hard time with how
- 51:14Speaker 1: things were happening to her and.
- 51:18Speaker 2: She's missed. I love the friendship to her in Erica.
- 51:22Speaker 1: I love when Erica had her crash out moment and
- 51:25Speaker 1: Lisa Renna said, Okay, girl, it's time to go. You
- 51:29Speaker 1: know what I mean, like something you would do to
- 51:31Speaker 1: me or I would do to you, Like Okay, Megan,
- 51:33Speaker 1: let's let's go for a walk.
- 51:34Speaker 2: You know what I mean, like let me protect your
- 51:37Speaker 2: little bit girlfriend. I love that.
- 51:40Speaker 1: I love that Lisa Rena called out the truth. I
- 51:42Speaker 1: love how Lisa Brenda was like Denise were friends for
- 51:46Speaker 1: thirty years. Not that I agreed with it, but I
- 51:50Speaker 1: like that she called shit out for what it was.
- 51:51Speaker 1: And the issue I'm having with Beverly Hills is it's
- 51:56Speaker 1: a lot of talk behind each other's back. And I
- 52:00Speaker 1: think the reason why you and I would always miss
- 52:04Speaker 1: the old days of Ronie is because you can say
- 52:08Speaker 1: what you want about those Roney girls, the houseboss in
- 52:11Speaker 1: New York City, the old the ogs. Those girls called
- 52:17Speaker 1: each other out to their faces and they made up
- 52:19Speaker 1: in ten minutes. And that's that's really.
- 52:21Speaker 3: What do I have to do to get them back
- 52:24Speaker 3: on my television? What do I have? We are in
- 52:27Speaker 3: a tough time politically, socioeconomically, the country is totally divided.
- 52:33Speaker 3: One thing that can unite this country is bringing the
- 52:36Speaker 3: old ogl So I'm serious, it would be a diplomatic
- 52:41Speaker 3: thing for Gravel to do. What do I have to
- 52:44Speaker 3: do this new cast? Fire them all. I am not
- 52:47Speaker 3: doing this. See I will not watch it again. And
- 52:48Speaker 3: it's very rare for me to pull away from a Housewives.
- 52:51Speaker 3: Very excited by the way, for New Atlanta going to
- 52:53Speaker 3: jump right back in because I eased off a little bit.
- 52:55Speaker 2: Can my teaser really fast?
- 52:57Speaker 3: Yeah? Please?
- 52:58Speaker 2: I saw the premiere episode.
- 53:00Speaker 3: Is it good? Oh no oh no.
- 53:06Speaker 1: Oh oh Megan, Megan, I'm not gonna say much just yet.
- 53:12Speaker 2: What I'm here to tell you Atlanta is back.
- 53:16Speaker 3: Jank, God, thank god. I need this. By the way,
- 53:19Speaker 3: I would watch Phaedri like like read the phone book
- 53:22Speaker 3: to me, like she really can do know And I
- 53:24Speaker 3: just took this picture recently of her with her sons,
- 53:26Speaker 3: and I was like, mister President is so big. It
- 53:30Speaker 3: was like a little man. I love Phaedra's one comment
- 53:35Speaker 3: alone on the Real Housewives Girls Trip where she was
- 53:39Speaker 3: like that woman's old enough to be your mother when
- 53:41Speaker 3: she was talking about Deminda to Brandy. I walked about
- 53:45Speaker 3: that for like a full day, like.
- 53:49Speaker 2: About it. You're like, the girl, are you watching this?
- 53:53Speaker 2: Oh bitch watching this? Fucking to me? To me, it's
- 53:57Speaker 2: the best, it was the best Girls trip. But I digress.
- 54:00Speaker 3: I'm just really thank god you said that, because I'm
- 54:02Speaker 3: really I'm really looking forward to it, like genuinely really
- 54:05Speaker 3: looking forward to it. Potomac is a little too much
- 54:07Speaker 3: for me, and I think like the women are in
- 54:09Speaker 3: my neighborhood a lot because they just like film around
- 54:12Speaker 3: town and the Karen of it all is very dark.
- 54:16Speaker 3: And I loved the last season. I know some people did,
- 54:18Speaker 3: so Atlanta coming back after New York being just such
- 54:23Speaker 3: a disaster and Beverly Hill's not being what I wanted.
- 54:26Speaker 3: I have very high hopes for Atlanta and I'm full
- 54:28Speaker 3: back in that's going to be the first episode is
- 54:31Speaker 3: going to be like like appointment viewing for me. I
- 54:34Speaker 3: thank god it's good. Seriously, thank god. If they fucked
- 54:35Speaker 3: that up again, I would.
- 54:36Speaker 1: Be so Megan, you will not be disappointed and text
- 54:44Speaker 1: me the moment.
- 54:45Speaker 2: Okay, you're gonna watch it in real time, so text
- 54:47Speaker 2: me at.
- 54:48Speaker 1: Nine oh one. And it's not be your thoughts on it.
- 54:51Speaker 1: I can't wait ten your thoughts on it, but will
- 54:53Speaker 1: you will not be disappointed?
- 54:55Speaker 3: And Porsche back Like all my favorites, I Fajor and
- 54:58Speaker 3: Push were always my favorite, So I'm they just need
- 55:01Speaker 3: to bring me back and then I'll be uh.
- 55:04Speaker 1: You and I would be like Atlanta, have it so okay, Megan,
- 55:09Speaker 1: thank you so much. You are a busy woman, a
- 55:11Speaker 1: busy white, a busy mother, and a busy boss. So
- 55:15Speaker 1: I don't take this for granted that you took time
- 55:17Speaker 1: out to my podcast.
- 55:20Speaker 4: But.
- 55:21Speaker 3: Anytime, I love you and I love your gust. I
- 55:24Speaker 3: listened to it as a fan all the time, and
- 55:26Speaker 3: you get such amazing exclusives and I love the rundowns.
- 55:29Speaker 3: I've been a little surprised at a few of the
- 55:31Speaker 3: hot takes you've had lately. Yes, wise disagreed, not a
- 55:35Speaker 3: little disagreement, but it's all good and all your success.
- 55:39Speaker 3: I mean, I just love applauding you from afar. You're
- 55:42Speaker 3: just really killing it and it's a hard industry to
- 55:45Speaker 3: kill it in, and podcasting in particular is a hard industry.
- 55:48Speaker 3: And you just like I said, everyone I know listens
- 55:51Speaker 3: to you.
- 55:52Speaker 1: Oh.
- 55:53Speaker 3: A lot to me, my girl, my friends who follow
- 55:56Speaker 3: up culture, they all do and like love it and
- 55:58Speaker 3: they get so excited when I come on.
- 56:00Speaker 1: So if that makes me happy and listen, I owe
- 56:04Speaker 1: you a trip on the DC. I need to like
- 56:07Speaker 1: find my way back out there so we can hang
- 56:09Speaker 1: out and bark, crawl and just like have a good time.
- 56:13Speaker 3: I would love to see you, and like I said,
- 56:15Speaker 3: I just really like so happy to come on anytime
- 56:18Speaker 3: you want. And I'm glad that your your fans are
- 56:22Speaker 3: giving me a little bit of a chance.
- 56:23Speaker 2: Which is they love you, Please, they love you. They
- 56:25Speaker 2: love you, so let them know them, Megan.
- 56:27Speaker 1: Where they can listen to your podcast, Citizen McCain, What
- 56:29Speaker 1: day of the week it drops, and everything else.
- 56:32Speaker 3: All places you can find Citizen McCain. And if you
- 56:34Speaker 3: are if you have five o'clock East Coast time, you
- 56:37Speaker 3: are bored, you can go on YouTube on the two
- 56:39Speaker 3: Way Channel with me and I'm just literally doing like
- 56:42Speaker 3: politics rundown for one hour and we have different guests
- 56:46Speaker 3: on and it's so funny. My premiere episode, I had
- 56:48Speaker 3: Perez Hilton and my friend Mary Catherine Hammon and people
- 56:51Speaker 3: are like Perez Holten and I was like, don't sleep
- 56:52Speaker 3: on Prezhilton.
- 56:53Speaker 2: He's very That was a great fucking episode.
- 56:56Speaker 3: Thank you. He's so smart.
- 56:57Speaker 2: He loves you.
- 56:59Speaker 3: You know, I mets when I was like, I'm not
- 57:01Speaker 3: chitting you twenty one at the White House Correspondence dinner
- 57:04Speaker 3: when he was there with Spencer and Heidi to really
- 57:07Speaker 3: date myself like a million years ago. And he's been
- 57:10Speaker 3: another one that's just so nice. Not embarrassed to be
- 57:13Speaker 3: my friend. Thank you so much to the people who
- 57:16Speaker 3: are not embarrassed to be my friend, not dragging me
- 57:18Speaker 3: on social media. I always appreciate that.
- 57:20Speaker 2: I love you.
- 57:22Speaker 3: Thank you. But he's just a really smart seem like
- 57:26Speaker 3: you like, just smart, cool, funny, like all the things.
- 57:29Speaker 2: So anyway, yeah, no, you're my baby.
- 57:31Speaker 1: All right, guys, thank you so much. Megan, I love you,
- 57:34Speaker 1: Citizen McCain. Whatever, we get the podcast and I will
- 57:37Speaker 1: see y'all on the next one.
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- 58:18Speaker 1: using the hashtag Reality with the King. Reality with the
- 58:23Speaker 1: King is a production of Kingdom Rain Entertainment, an executive
- 58:27Speaker 1: produced by me Carlos King, Kingdom Rain Entertainment, Baby,