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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 203 | Lawrence Taking Control of Offense and Jaguars’ New Normal · Jags A.M.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in to deg XAM this Wednesday. I'm Connuntie, Stevens,
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Speaker 1: Frans X and John Oser with us today as we
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Speaker 1: get ready for a massive matchup on the road in
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Speaker 1: Week sixteen, taking on the Denver Broncos. We're going to
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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about what's going on with the
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Speaker 1: team and also look ahead and talk about what's going
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Speaker 1: on in the league as well. Let's start off with
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Speaker 1: our Big Things today, brought to you by GEJ Government
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Speaker 1: Employees Health Association. So Big Thing number one is Toot
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Speaker 1: in troubles. Some reports coming out earlier this week that
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Speaker 1: facial toot and suffering a finger injury that's going to
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Speaker 1: keep him out for a couple of weeks. Brian, we
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Speaker 1: saw him leave that game against the Jets, didn't come
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Speaker 1: back in now hearing he might be out for a
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Where's your concern go?
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Speaker 2: Not very high, to be honest with The Jaguars have
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Speaker 2: been able to become much more significant injuries. You know,
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Speaker 2: they've played without many offenses Lineman, they've played without Trayvon Walker.
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Speaker 2: They've had injuries to their best safety, to their best
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Speaker 2: corner and it hasn't slowed them down. They're ten and
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Speaker 2: four and firmly in position in the AFC South, So
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Speaker 2: not really. You know, he's had a couple of injuries,
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Speaker 2: had a shoulder, he had a concussion. Now it's the finger.
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Speaker 2: I just think that this Jaguars organization, from the personnel
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Speaker 2: department that James Gladstone oversees to the coaching department obviously,
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Speaker 2: which Liam Cohen has control of. I think they'll have
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Speaker 2: a plan and they'll find a way to keep it
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Speaker 2: going with Leuquin Allen junior. Maybe bring to Quinton Jackson
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Speaker 2: up off of the practice squad. He's been with them
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Speaker 2: since training camp. They'll find a way to overcome it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, you wish you had him because he's
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Speaker 3: really fast and you feel like he's been close to
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Speaker 3: breaking one in a big game like the one in Denver.
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Speaker 3: Threo's big plays from you know, quote unknown people can
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Speaker 3: make a difference, you know, I think he's ready to
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Speaker 3: have that kind of a play. But to Brian's point,
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Speaker 3: this team, if it has a trademark, it's been its
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Speaker 3: ability to overcome injuries and have the guys playing for
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Speaker 3: those players play just as well, so they should make it.
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Speaker 4: I wish they had.
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Speaker 1: Let's go to our second big thing today, which is
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Speaker 1: the new normal. We've talked a lot about what the
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Speaker 1: new standard for the Jaguars is going to be going forward.
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Speaker 1: Now with Trevor Lawrence showing off having the best performance
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Speaker 1: of his career against the Jets, Jiam Cohen talked about
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Speaker 1: the new normal for Trevor.
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Speaker 5: Going forward since maybe the buye of having a little
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Speaker 5: bit more of an evaluation of who we are has
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Speaker 5: helped us continue to foster improvement and improve. And he's
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Speaker 5: handling I mean, he handles all the runcans, the protections.
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Speaker 5: You know, obviously in the past game there's a lot
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Speaker 5: that goes into it on a given play, and I
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Speaker 5: think that he's done a nice job of controlling that
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Speaker 5: and keeping that stuff pretty clean from you know, man's
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Speaker 5: own cans and protections and fit sing them and doing
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Speaker 5: some of those things. So I just think it's more
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Speaker 5: comfortable doing it, and we're able to attack people a
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Speaker 5: little bit differently than maybe we were early on with
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Speaker 5: some of the depth of targets and stuff.
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Speaker 1: Clearly, Trevor Lawrence looks more comfortable in this system. John,
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Speaker 1: I know you were here in that playoff run in
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two when Trevor kind of got really hot
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Speaker 1: towards the end of the season. But now the way
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Speaker 1: he's been playing these last few games, you feel like,
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Speaker 1: this is what we can expect from him going forward.
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Speaker 3: Oh, he's better now than he was in twenty two.
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Speaker 3: He was hot in twenty two, but there are also
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Speaker 3: a lot of mistakes mixed in in twenty two.
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Speaker 4: Look new normal.
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Speaker 3: You're not gonna have nine touchdowns in three weeks with
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Speaker 3: no interceptions in the high, high level that he's played at.
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Speaker 4: But I do think new normal. If you take the
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Speaker 4: last four weeks and you add in.
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Speaker 3: The end of the Arizona game were big plays at
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Speaker 3: big moments, I think you're gonna have more of the
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Speaker 3: last four weeks then you have anything else with him.
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Speaker 3: You're not gonna win every game. There's gonna be mistakes.
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Speaker 3: But if you're asking, do I think they have a
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Speaker 3: quarterback that they can go all the way with?
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Speaker 2: Yes, the Arizona game, you know, after the third interception,
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Speaker 2: it wasn't that the light went on, it was that
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Speaker 2: the elevator started going up and this quarterback rose, he
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Speaker 2: lifted himself. I think I saw the look in his eye.
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Speaker 2: I have said that several times. Maybe he did, maybe
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Speaker 2: he didn't have that look, but there was something that
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Speaker 2: changed in him and he has gone guy to a
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Speaker 2: completely different level. I mean, is he in that elite
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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes Josh Allen level.
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 2: I don't think he's there yet, but the way he's
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Speaker 2: playing suggests he can get there. And that's what John's
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Speaker 2: talking about. He's playing consistently, he is playing with a
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Speaker 2: level of confidence. There's a brilliance. The way that he
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Speaker 2: threw the ball on Sunday against the Jets that bespeaks
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Speaker 2: It talks about what he's capable of being. And for
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Speaker 2: the first time since he was drafted, we are seeing
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Speaker 2: the guy who the Jaguars believe they were picking from Clemson.
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Speaker 1: Hopefully the elevator continues to rise. It's definitely been fun
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Speaker 1: to watch so far this season. Our find A big
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Speaker 1: thing today is going to be mirror image. I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about well tomorrow we'll talk fully
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Speaker 1: about the Denver Broncos matchup, but let's get into it now.
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Speaker 1: I mean, another team that maybe doesn't get as much
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Speaker 1: respect as they talk about. But Liam Cohen talked about
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Speaker 1: what he's seen from the Broncos on tape.
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Speaker 5: That's a good football team. I've been following them and
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Speaker 5: had a lot of crossover tape with those guys, have
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Speaker 5: watched them execute at a high level from far and defensively,
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Speaker 5: you know, do a really nice job. So we know
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Speaker 5: this is darn good opponent going on the roads. I
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Speaker 5: think Miles High is a really cool place to play
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Speaker 5: and compete at. You think about football, you think about
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Speaker 5: going and playing a game like this.
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Speaker 6: So.
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Speaker 5: You know this is gonna be a really good challenge
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Speaker 5: for us.
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Speaker 6: As you mentioned, there's.
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Speaker 5: A lot of similarities right now in some ways, and
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Speaker 5: you know, being explosive like that quarterback and run. He
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Speaker 5: can throw it down the field. And their defense has
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Speaker 5: played at a really high level and it's a good,
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Speaker 5: solid special teams unit as well. Solowis had a lot
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Speaker 5: of respect for Sampayton.
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Speaker 1: It'd be a huge game, Brian. Obviously, another team maybe
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Speaker 1: doesn't get as much play as they should, don't with
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Speaker 1: now they want eleven games in a row and are
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Speaker 1: clearly one of, if not the best team in the league.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, they're getting it now. And I've spent some time
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Speaker 6: looking at the numbers.
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Speaker 2: Whether we're talking about the quarterbacks, or the running game
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Speaker 2: or the defense. Here's where it really separates John. The
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Speaker 2: Denver Broncos defense, the front four, the pass rush gets home.
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Speaker 2: They have fifty nine sacks on the season. The Jaguars
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Speaker 2: have had a lot of pressure, but not as many sacks.
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Speaker 2: Where it flips is you know, the Denver Broncos only
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Speaker 2: have twelve takeaways and the Jaguars have twenty six. So
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Speaker 2: the passing defense number is better for the Broncos than
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Speaker 2: it is for the Jaguars because while the Broncos have
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Speaker 2: shut the ball down, the Jaguars have taken it away.
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Speaker 6: This is an awesome game. Denver is one of my.
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Speaker 2: Favorite places to watch a football game because the tradition there,
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Speaker 2: because the fans there, whether they are right before Christmas.
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Speaker 6: Although it's gonna be pretty nice.
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Speaker 2: I love everything about this game, and I think that
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Speaker 2: the Jaguars matchup well with these guys, and I'm expecting
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Speaker 2: a hell of a football game.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. The Broncos defense is really good. They rush the
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Speaker 4: passer really well.
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Speaker 3: They emphasize rushing the passer really well, which leaves some
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Speaker 3: things open for not getting takeaways. If they don't get home,
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Speaker 3: you can beat them.
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Speaker 6: And the jet.
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Speaker 3: You know, sometimes around this team, even observers talk about
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Speaker 3: great things other teams do and forget the Jaguars have
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Speaker 3: scored twenty five or more points in what the six
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Speaker 3: seven games in a row. Seven that's the best in
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Speaker 3: franchise history. It's the best in the league right now.
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Speaker 3: If it was just offense, you'd be concerned. But the
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Speaker 3: defense has gotten so much better. The front is pressuring,
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Speaker 3: the takeaways. This is a balanced Jaguars team that's won
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Speaker 3: five in a row. Yes, they're a couple of point underdogs,
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Speaker 3: they don't feel like underdogs going out there. This is
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Speaker 3: the start kapeks Ago and they played a big game
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Speaker 3: against the Colts, won up by twenty.
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Speaker 4: People get used to this team is good and other
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Speaker 4: teams need to beat the Jaguars.
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Speaker 2: There's gonna come down to the fourth quarter. I mean,
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Speaker 2: just look at the Broncos games. Kay, if you go
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Speaker 2: back and look at the list. I mean they have
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Speaker 2: to go to overtime to beat the Washington Commanders, who
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Speaker 2: were playing without Jayden Daniels who was out with an injury.
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Speaker 2: I mean, these guys don't run away from anybody. They
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Speaker 2: stand and they fight, which is what the Jaguars do
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Speaker 2: and John I went all the way back to the nineties.
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Speaker 2: There's never been a stretch like this where the Jaguars
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Speaker 2: have scored points like they're scoring, averaging thirty two point
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Speaker 2: eight points per game. They're a legitimate threat. The people
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Speaker 2: in Denver better be ready.
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Speaker 1: Meaningful games in December. This is certainly going to be
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Speaker 6: Jag Jamm We're.
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Speaker 1: Gonna play a little this or that. We're gonna do
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Speaker 1: this or that. And as Tony Biselli likes to say,
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Speaker 1: the next game is always the biggest game in franchise history.
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Speaker 1: We jest a little bit, but how massive is this
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Speaker 1: matchup in the season. I'm gonna say it's definitely the
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Speaker 1: biggest game this season.
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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, without a doubt.
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Speaker 2: And if you're sitting as one of the network executives
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Speaker 2: this week, I mean you're thrilled to have a game
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Speaker 2: the Sunday before Christmas with a twelve and two number
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Speaker 2: one seed, but not locked it up yet against a
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Speaker 2: ten and four upstar Jacksonville team with a hot quarterback.
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Speaker 2: I mean, the quarterback is always the sexiest position. I
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Speaker 2: think it's a great matchup. I think Denver is an
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Speaker 2: awesome place, as I just said, to watch a professional
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Speaker 2: football game.
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Speaker 6: It's not gonna be cold.
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Speaker 2: But a week before Christmas. I mean, this is this
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Speaker 2: is huge because if the Jaguars win this ball game
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Speaker 2: on Sunday, they are in prime position to be able
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Speaker 2: to play for the number one overall seed. I don't
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Speaker 2: know that you can say that they've got it, but
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Speaker 2: they'll be in a spot to play for the number
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Speaker 2: one seed if they went on Sunday.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, some would say senior writer is the sexiest position.
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Speaker 6: But only if the ja so only senior writer says that.
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Speaker 4: Well, this is big. I don't know how else to
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Speaker 4: do it except sort of by numbers.
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Speaker 3: The Jeras haven't played in a game with both teams
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Speaker 3: six games over five hundred since they lost in Tennessee
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Speaker 3: in ninety nine. That's twenty six years. Yeah, they're back
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Speaker 3: in this world of playing big games. What's cool is
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Speaker 3: it's a little bit of a it's a little bit
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Speaker 3: of a high wire act. You're chasing the Broncos. You
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Speaker 3: got a chance to catch them. It can be glory
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Speaker 3: if you win, and if you lose, you might be
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Speaker 3: like in the fifth or sixth seed. So I've had
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Speaker 3: some people right in saying, wow, this is nerve wracking zone. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I get used to it, but this one, this is
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Speaker 3: the high wire act of the NFL.
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Speaker 4: You win, you get it all. Yeah, you lose, you
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Speaker 4: go back.
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Speaker 3: But it's it's not a situation. If you lose it,
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Speaker 3: any thing's over, but all of a sudden you need it.
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Speaker 3: If you don't get it, you're feeling awful.
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Speaker 4: This is the fun part.
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Speaker 2: If you don't win this week, because the Texans are
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Speaker 2: gonna win. They're playing the Raiders, right, So.
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Speaker 6: Then you're in a in a tie, but you're down
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Speaker 6: a tiebreaker.
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Speaker 2: So now the next week you're hoping that you go
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Speaker 2: in and beat the Colts, which is not a gimme
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Speaker 2: by any stretch of the imagination, despite their quarterback issues.
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Speaker 2: And you're hoping that the Chargers beat the Texans. And
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Speaker 2: you know, now you're starting to need a little bit
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Speaker 2: of help in that thing, which is why I say,
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Speaker 2: when this.
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Speaker 4: Week, you gotta keep the hammer down.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you really do it.
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Speaker 2: And by the way, when you talk about it being nervous,
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Speaker 2: I was speaking engagement this morning and people were saying
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Speaker 2: the exact same thing.
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Speaker 6: But isn't that what you want?
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Speaker 1: You want to care at the subway, You want to
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Speaker 1: be invested.
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Speaker 2: When you don't feel those nervous that's that's because your
11:45
Speaker 2: team stinks and you're out of it and you're talking
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Speaker 2: about the draft.
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Speaker 3: When you start getting nerves like that and you spend Saturday,
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Speaker 3: you know, worried, and you're going out and you're talking
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Speaker 3: about it and you wake up nervous, that's when the
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Speaker 3: fans and the team are connected. That's what you've been
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Speaker 3: waiting for for That's what you've been missing. And around
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Speaker 3: here it's been easy to forget that that's what it
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Speaker 3: is because you haven't had enough success.
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Speaker 4: This is this is the fun stuff.
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Speaker 2: This might be the marquee game of the regular season
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Speaker 2: for sure, right, I mean for all teams, not just Jaguars.
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Speaker 2: I mean the NFL regular season two hundred and fifty
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Speaker 2: eight games. I think you can point go this is
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Speaker 2: the game at this point of the season. They didn't
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Speaker 2: plan it to be that way, but it came out
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Speaker 2: that way.
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Speaker 1: I think what's cool is both these teams are playing
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Speaker 1: so well right now. Obviously the Broncos eleven game win Street,
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Speaker 1: They're on a whole other level. But the Jaguars feel
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Speaker 1: like they're finally playing their best version of football for
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Speaker 1: this team, Like they are like I feel like so
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Speaker 1: long we were like, oh, they're winning, but they're kind
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Speaker 1: of like piecing it together now. It feels like the
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Speaker 1: offense is really on point and the defense has been
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Speaker 1: playing well for the past month plus and it feels good.
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Speaker 1: It feels like you're seeing the best version of each team.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like one is deflatd.
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Speaker 4: Well And what timing.
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Speaker 3: You've got Trevor Lawrence, who was the commercial guy as
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Speaker 3: a rookie right like, he was a number one overall
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Speaker 3: pick and everybody outside jackson many people in Jacksonville had
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Speaker 3: written him off even a month ago when the team
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Speaker 3: was winning. Oh they're winning despite Trevor Lawrence. Well, guess what,
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Speaker 3: he goes out on Sunday and has a big time game.
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Speaker 3: All of a sudden, he's the commercial guy again, and
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Speaker 3: he doesn't need the commercials because but you know what
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Speaker 3: I'm saying, all of a sudden That adds a different
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Speaker 3: dynamic of this game. If the Jaggars were just hot,
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Speaker 3: it would be one thing. They're hot with a kid
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Speaker 3: who might be turning into a big time quarterback. This
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Speaker 3: is an interesting game for storylines, the biggest one being
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Speaker 3: just go win, no matter what happens with the quarterback.
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Speaker 2: You know, and if you go back and look at
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Speaker 2: recent history, last ten years of drafting quarterbacks, I mean,
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Speaker 2: it's a lawnding list of guys.
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Speaker 6: That didn't make it.
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Speaker 2: So for the investment and the patient to have him
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Speaker 2: at this point is incredibly exciting because the future not
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Speaker 2: just Sunday, the future this season, next season, and beyond.
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Speaker 6: Man, it gets really exciting when you have a hot quarterback.
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Speaker 3: And the cool thing on that topic is, look, we've
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Speaker 3: seen Trevor really the last four weeks. I don't think
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Speaker 3: anybody on this couch doubts you can win with this
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Speaker 3: and it's just ascending.
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Speaker 4: It's just getting better.
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Speaker 3: So I don't want to paint the picture of if
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Speaker 3: they don't win, all of a sudden, Trevor's not the guy.
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Speaker 3: It's not that, it's just this is a chance for
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Speaker 3: the nation to see what he has already been doing,
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Speaker 3: and in a sense it's sort of, yes, there's pressure,
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Speaker 3: but it's sort of a just go play game because there's.
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Speaker 4: Really it's not like you're out of the playoffs. If
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Speaker 4: you lose, it's huge. Let it rip, Let it rip,
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Speaker 4: r letter rip.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk a little bit about what the
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Speaker 1: implications will be if they don't win, because, as we mentioned,
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Speaker 1: the team gets has already gotten to ten wins the
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Speaker 1: first time we've seen sink twenty seventeen, twice, twenty seven, right,
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Speaker 1: and this is the age old question. Division winners should
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Speaker 1: always get a home game? Or should it be the
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Speaker 1: better record? Where do we feel about this?
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Speaker 3: Always should get a home game because they're like your division.
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Speaker 3: You've got to get something from in a division, agreed.
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Speaker 3: If you don't have that as the carrot, then eliminate
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Speaker 3: the divisions and just go NBA, or go the old
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Speaker 3: baseball where you used to be American League and you
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Speaker 3: get in.
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Speaker 4: I'm an old school guy too.
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Speaker 3: If the Jaguars get you know, shafted this year, there
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Speaker 3: will be arguments the other way over time.
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Speaker 4: You should always get a reward for winning the division.
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Speaker 2: It also bills the rivalry and you see how the
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Speaker 2: league stacks the end of the year with all of
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Speaker 2: these division games. I mean, how would there be a
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Speaker 2: rivalry between Jacksonville, Florida and Houston, Jacksonville, Florida and Indianapolis
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Speaker 2: if you didn't have the division right in Nashville. Maybe
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Speaker 2: a little bit more regionality in that case, If you
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Speaker 2: really want to have this emotion at the end of
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Speaker 2: the season and watching a division rival, then you've got
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Speaker 2: to have the division and the division title mean something.
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Speaker 6: So I'm with John, it's got to matter.
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Speaker 3: Plus philosophically, any argument in the NFL at the end
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Speaker 3: of the season is always washed away.
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Speaker 4: Why but should have won anyway?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and back in then you know, there's
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Speaker 3: always that when a team rests their starters and another
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Speaker 3: team is playing to get in and they're watching and
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Speaker 3: the team the rest of the starters, you know, loses
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Speaker 3: and it costs this other team. Oh, you didn't win
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Speaker 3: your games. So it's the same way here. You can
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Speaker 3: win on the road in the playoffs. So if you don't,
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Speaker 3: you know, some of the best teams have won on
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Speaker 3: the road in the playoffs. If you don't, if you
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Speaker 3: wanted the home game win, should have win more?
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Speaker 6: Well, we've seen it.
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Speaker 2: We saw it in twenty have a team in Pittsburgh.
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Speaker 2: They went and beat the Steelers. The Steelers thought they
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Speaker 2: were going to play the Patriots the next week. There
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Speaker 2: was even commentary in their locker room about that winning
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Speaker 2: on the road in the playoffs is not as difficult
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Speaker 2: as it seems.
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Speaker 6: Go play well.
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Speaker 1: Riding on this game. We're going to talk about it
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Speaker 1: tomorrow as well, and I'm just excited to see them
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Speaker 1: actually play. But anyway, let's talk a little bit about
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Speaker 1: what's going on in the league. After the break, we'll
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Speaker 1: into jags An. Let's talk a little bit about what's
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Speaker 1: going on around the NFL, because we're getting to that
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Speaker 1: point of the season where it's important we keep an
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Speaker 1: eye on some of the other things going on, because
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Speaker 1: why not. My most most compelling story I saw this
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Speaker 1: week was obviously Philip Rivers coming back after five years
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Speaker 1: of not playing NFL football and starting a football game
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Speaker 1: for the Colts on the road and almost got to
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Speaker 1: win there.
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Speaker 4: Impressive.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, not listen, it was impressive to a degree. But
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Speaker 2: I mean, listen how many times you see him fall
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Speaker 2: down and shot putting the ball? I said last week
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Speaker 2: Philip Rivers is one of my favorite quarterbacks. I mean,
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Speaker 2: I just love the guy. When he was playing for
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Speaker 2: the Chargers, I just I was not impressed with his athleticism.
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Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, he almost won it, but he didn't.
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Speaker 6: All right, he Lets put it this way.
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Speaker 2: He completed eighteen passes for one hundred and twenty yards.
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Speaker 2: You can run for more than four point four per
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Speaker 2: carry with with Jonathan Taylor.
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Speaker 4: It was a game effort. You do wonder.
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Speaker 3: How long he'll do it if they lose a couple
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Speaker 3: You know, I got af through my games in the
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Speaker 3: end regular season.
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Speaker 4: If they fall out of it, do you bother doing
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Speaker 4: it in the finale? Uh? You know?
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Speaker 6: But well, I expect to see him when we're there
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Speaker 6: this Sunday after Christmas.
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Speaker 4: But if if you're eliminated from the playoffs, which if
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Speaker 4: if they lose, you could be do they do that?
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Speaker 4: You know?
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Speaker 2: If it's if the Jags win and the Niners beat
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Speaker 2: the Colts on Monday Night Football, then.
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Speaker 4: The Jags they're still in it.
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Speaker 1: They can't win the division.
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Speaker 2: Well, the Jags will clinch a playoff spot if they
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Speaker 2: win in Denver and the Colts or Titans lose.
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Speaker 6: But does that eliminate the Colts.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think just from the Colts are Texans. Texans, Yeah,
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Speaker 4: the Colts will be do. I don't know if they
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Speaker 4: eliminate the Colts because they're still their wild card.
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Speaker 1: They can't win the division at that point, but they
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Speaker 1: could still win a wild.
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Speaker 6: Because that's the fun part of a lot of them.
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Speaker 6: They're trying to figure out how it works.
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Speaker 2: But I expect to see Philip Rivers, and I hope
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Speaker 2: that the Jaguars see Philip Rivers because he's just God,
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Speaker 2: love you, Philip if you see this. I mean, he's
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Speaker 2: just a tremendous I love him. But he's forty four,
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Speaker 2: he's been out of the game for five years. The
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Speaker 2: Niners should take personal affront that he thinks.
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Speaker 6: He can beat them.
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Speaker 1: Pooh pooh. It's ages and I love it.
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Speaker 4: It's drama.
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a great movie.
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Speaker 6: It was not a good football game. I watched it.
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Speaker 1: This is just the beginning of the comeback story, not
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Speaker 1: against but hopefully elsewhere.
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Speaker 6: Pallmark's not buying the rights.
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Speaker 1: Texans are keeping pace. Let's say they won their sixth
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Speaker 1: game in a row and Ryan' not slowing down any time,
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Speaker 1: saying no.
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Speaker 2: And listen, here's the scary part. And we all know
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Speaker 2: about their defense. But their quarterback is playing well. He
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Speaker 2: has rebounded from the three games he missed with the concussion.
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Speaker 2: He really doesn't have a running game at all. I mean,
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Speaker 2: Woody Marks is injured. Nick Chubb didn't play last week,
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Speaker 2: and yet he finds a way to make a play
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Speaker 2: And this may be the one.
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Speaker 6: Now that's the running game. There was a throw he
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Speaker 6: made the.
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Speaker 2: Other night against Kansas City where I didn't think he
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Speaker 2: had any prayer of getting the ball off before he
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Speaker 2: was run out of bounds, and he threw a strike
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Speaker 2: for a first down on third down and twelve. If
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Speaker 2: their quarterback is playing well with that defense, wow, this
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Speaker 2: is going to be a formidable team.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're dangerous. I mean AFC's health is good this
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Speaker 3: year until Daniel Jones got hurt. Oh yeah, you felt
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Speaker 3: like it was going to be three eleven or twelve
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Speaker 3: win teams.
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Speaker 4: You know, it's.
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Speaker 3: It feels I get that the Jerrys had a chance
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Speaker 3: to close them out and they squandered that opportunity. But
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Speaker 3: it doesn't feel wrong to me that these two teams
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Speaker 3: are in a one game chase and going after it.
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Speaker 4: They feel like two really good teams.
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Speaker 1: And then let's talk a little bit about the team
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Speaker 1: we're gonna be facing this week. The Broncos had a
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Speaker 1: big matchup against the Packers this week. They came out
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Speaker 1: on top as mentioned, eleventh win in a row, and
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Speaker 1: they did suffer an injury of their safety, brand Jones
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Speaker 1: gonna be placed on IR He has a peck injury,
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Speaker 1: so he'll be out the rest of the season. That
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Speaker 1: defense in Denver is tremendous, but as mentioned, non ton
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Speaker 1: of takeaways. So if you can get after the secondary
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Speaker 1: a little bit, that's great for the Jicks.
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Speaker 6: That certainly hurts them. And you know, they lost JK. Dobbins,
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Speaker 6: their top running back a couple of weeks ago and RJ.
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Speaker 2: Harvey, who the kid from UCF has Bruce Ribs, So
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Speaker 2: I mean they've got some significant depletions.
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Speaker 1: Something to watch for sure. I think they think he'll
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Speaker 1: be able to go, but at at what percentage?
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Speaker 4: Right? Look, they're a clutch, one score game team that's
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Speaker 4: come back this year probably ten times. I think the
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Speaker 4: statu is they thrive on it.
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Speaker 3: They believe that they're going to win big games. That
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Speaker 3: makes them a very tough team to beat at home
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Speaker 3: when you have a good defense to go with it.
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Speaker 3: It also means that a good team playing well.
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Speaker 4: Which the Jaguars are, can get them. So this should
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Speaker 4: be a great game.
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Speaker 3: I think the Jaguars are going to believe that they
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Speaker 3: can punch this team in the mouth, because the Jaguars
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Speaker 3: believe they can punch all teams.
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Speaker 4: In the mouth. Yeah, I think that's the kind of
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Speaker 4: game is.
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Speaker 6: Going to be. Bonex, by the way, just isn't the side.
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Speaker 2: He's not as big and doesn't have the arm strength
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Speaker 2: of Brett fav But the way that he runs and
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Speaker 2: then throws the ball back across his body without any
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Speaker 2: thought about where that ball is going right the throw
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Speaker 2: that we just saw right over there, He is dangerous
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Speaker 2: because the play is never dead, which you see their
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Speaker 2: receivers Courtland, Sutton and Franklin. They all play that style
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Speaker 2: and we having to mention that Evan Ingram is out
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Speaker 2: there and he's made some big plays for them this year.
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Speaker 2: That's another storyline to this thing.
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna harp on this all week. Lebroncos play close
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Speaker 4: games and they're a good clutch team. Jaguars are getting
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Speaker 4: close games too. They haven't had to play them the
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Speaker 4: last couple weeks. They've won it overtime. They've beaten a
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Speaker 4: big time team and the Chiefs. That way, the Jaguars
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Speaker 4: are as good as the Broncos. Let's see if they can.
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Speaker 6: Go beat them.
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Speaker 4: Let's see. Stay with us.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back in. We are gonna talk a ton tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: But looking forward to this matchup with the Broncos. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I feel like when the schedule came out, I was
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Speaker 1: looking at it. I was like, that's gonna be a
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Speaker 1: really cool game. It'll be a tough environment, but I
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Speaker 1: don't know where the team's gonna be at at that
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Speaker 1: point in the season, for sure, But at this point
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Speaker 1: you don't really feel like, yes, it's a tough environment.
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Speaker 1: I don't feel like they can't go there and get
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Speaker 1: a win, though, which is a great place to be.
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Speaker 3: Not sure right now, there's a place I would feel
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Speaker 3: that way. What this team lost to three good teams
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Speaker 3: this year when the quarterback was not playing at the
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Speaker 3: level that it's playing. So I don't know how the
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Speaker 3: game is going to go, but I don't feel like
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Speaker 3: there's any reason they can't go there, play well and
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Speaker 3: win well.
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Speaker 6: And they're also healthy. You can't overlook that.
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Speaker 2: The last time this team lost, they were in Houston
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Speaker 2: where they blew the nineteen point lead. But they didn't
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Speaker 2: have Brenton Strange, they didn't have Eric Murray, they didn't
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Speaker 2: have Jordan Lewis.
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Speaker 6: They were down some key players.
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Speaker 2: And you've got to think that had those players been there,
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Speaker 2: the Jaguars could have gotten a first down or prevented
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Speaker 2: a first down, and that would have ended the game
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Speaker 2: and the Jaguars would have won. So you're going to
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Speaker 2: denver the injury to Basil Twoton aside. You're going at
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Speaker 2: almost full strength, which gives you a great opportunity at
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Speaker 2: a quarterback playing at a high level.
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Speaker 6: Hey, buckle up, Bronx, here we come.
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Speaker 4: And I have no idea what Liam's messages the team
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Speaker 4: will be. My guess is it'll have some sort of
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Speaker 4: element of hey, guys, let's go play. Yeah, yeah, let's
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Speaker 4: go see, let's go show.
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Speaker 6: He has no fear, none whatsoever.
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Speaker 2: Down in distance doesn't bother him, timeline, the play clock
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Speaker 2: doesn't bother him. Nothing bothers him. He plays and coaches
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Speaker 2: without fear, and his team has adopted that mentality.
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Speaker 6: There's no fear in this thing. Let's go play ball,
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Speaker 6: Let's do it.
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Speaker 1: Who you guys talking to this week?
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Speaker 2: I'm talking to Spencer Whipple, the quarterbacks coach, and why
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Speaker 2: not the quarterback he's playing.
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Speaker 6: It looks like he's a completely different guy.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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Speaker 3: I'm hoping to talk to Cole Atlanta because I haven't
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Speaker 3: talked to him yet and I've wanted to talk to
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Speaker 3: him for the last five weeks.
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Speaker 4: And just see how you do what he's doing. Everyone's favorite.
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