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There and Back Again an Archon's Tale · Archons Corner

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  You got you. Hi, this is Michael Hurley from Ghost Galaxy and you're
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  listening to Arcon's corner reacting to reaction. Yep, yeah, but what's going
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  on everybody? I am the one, the only, the w oh Okay.
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  I e a little nasally today because I caught all of your germs.
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  I love you, ah, but we have worlds to go over, so
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  the show must go on to help me with that. Today we got the
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  ewokwok and third place for Arkan. Hello, keyboarde family. Oh man,
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  it is so good to be back. It was so good to meet so
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  many of you. I am absolutely blessed and uh god was good guys.
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  I took home third place. I don't know where that came from, but
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  practice paid off deck and I had I had the run, so it was.
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  It was a great, great time and it was amazing meeting so many
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  of you. Go ahead with your intros and then we'll get into won't you
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  be my neighbor? I also have the runs, but not in the same
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  way. Anyways, we have the olt from the south Southerly elf oy hoy,
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  I hear Wales went well, we'll get into that. We missed you
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  Southerly we did. Yeah, man, yeah, I wish I could have
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  made it. Next year. Next year, next year we have the saltiest
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  doctor on Earth, Doctor sheep Man and Draz The Smoke Show was gone.
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  Guys. With that said, times to get into today, but first we
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  have to get into Ewok's darn segment. Won't you be my neighbor? Ewok?
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  All right, so we showed up and this was Thursday night. We
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  went ahead and stop by Games Enter. Not a lot happening there, so
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  we went over to the hotel in Double Tree and me and key Forge was
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  definitely happening there. A lot of people were sitting around and this was my
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  first introduction. Thank you June and fabulous sting. People are playing key Mander
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  boys and girls. So key Mander, if you're not familiar with it,
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  is Commander's version from Magic but with key Forge, and it looked amazing.
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  So June Fabulous is awesome job. They're getting some feedback right away, multiple
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  different we'll call it those key Manders that were in charge. So a lot
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  of play and replayability is what I saw. I did not get a chance
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  to play. I was a little busy over the weekend, but I'm super
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  excited to be able to play at my local and give some feedback. So
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  I give them won't you be my neighbor? Because that was awesome news.
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  I mean the amount of time and effort put into this just to be able
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  to bring something cool to our key Forge scene. I love it. Fans
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  players, you guys got it going on again. It was cool to see,
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  Like I don't know that I'm jumping out of my chair to try it
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  myself, but but I could, like, I could tell people are having
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  a good time and enjoying doing it. So cool cool indeed, Yeah,
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  I'm excited to give it a try. I know. I'm pretty sure Sidney
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  has the rules with her, so at our locals we will get to give
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  it a try one of these weeks. I know they put a lot of
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  effort into it, so I definitely want to give it a look. So
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  we'll give that a look. Maybe we'll do a little video on it.
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  We have the technology of some sort. We'll figure it out. Sheep right,
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  right, perfect. We had a yu. So we had our titular
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  segment why I suck at key Forge, but does he's not here? Sucks
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  so bad? He's stuck in a strange cell. That's right. I mean,
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  we could probably each share something about why we suck as we go through
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  the days of the events because none of us, none of us won out.
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  So there's there's something right up. Draw better. Mine is not enough
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  sleep for the forge I had to play. Definitely an issue for me.
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  We can get into that. But I definitely can go to Budapest and back.
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  So this is true. This is true. I flew in from Budapest
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  to arrive at the keyboard celebration. It was not a short flight. And
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  let's see what we got up real quick. For you guys with pledge managers,
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  are pledging for the game found pledge manager is open. Get in your
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  personalized deck names and I believe house choices if I'm not mistaken, yeah,
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  and your other choices. Do you want your houses on your map? Yes?
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  And remember at this point they've got your money, so if you want
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  to remove a pledge, you just have to spend it on something else.
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  So too late, they've taken it. Well you should, I mean,
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  the the what's you McCall it decks are pretty cool. Well, there's those
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  two, so so we should talk about both, right, we should talk
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  about the what's the we'll get into that. We have plenty of the fans.
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  Yeah, yeah, the gosh not the Revenant spooks. I forgot what
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  they're calling borders. What do they call those? Spooky? Are you talking
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  to Nasure Awakening? Awakening? You're talking Awakening decks? What are you talking
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  about? What he's talking awake? What he's talking? I think I'm talking
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  about Awakening decks. I'm scrolling. I'm getting to the wet badge. So
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  Awakening are your Yeah, they're your special addition decks similar to I SA a
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  key for just my understanding, yep, yep. And they're really cool looking.
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  And I added a bunch of extras to my pledge to be able to
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  have some some fun looking decks, hoping to get at least one that's,
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  you know, decently good. And uh, I'm excited about those. But
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  let's get into the noise. Day one after Thursday, we arrived all to
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  get in line they get signed up for the LCQ. It was a very
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  long line. What was the total number of people one seventy eight, one
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  thirty seven played that day? What was the total that showed up? Though?
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  Is not everybody right? Around one hundred and seventy for the weekend.
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  Okay, one seventy for the weekend. I don't think we got an count
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  from them. How can we not be excited about that? Boys and girls
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  an the amount of international people that are lower there. First, it was
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  lower than last year and we had the internationals pace, So that that's your
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  that's your twist is that? I mean the amount of people that I saw
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  there, the excitement for key Forge, like we had actually good weather when
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  we're there and we're waiting to get in. I don't know, it was
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  amazing. Being able to see people from around the world here playing our game
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  instead of seeing people was amazing. Okay, don't get me wrong. The
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  people. The people were great, but I mean, I feel like fewer
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  people now it felt pretty full in the rooms. Yeah say it. It
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  felt smaller though it did feel like fewer people did it it did? I
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  could feel it, I don't think so. Okay, Well, I mean
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  I will say that there were some notable individuals from our American side, the
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  state side, content creators and people that I had seen it celebration or had
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  come out in previous trips that did not make it and things happened. That's
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  part of life. So you're dearly missed, and hopefully you we'll get you
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  know you to be able to come out for the next event. But I
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  love seeing the people who came internationally here. I enjoyed everyone like there was
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  so many just great conversations about key Forge and being able to play key Forge
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  and all formats, from very casual with the menagerie until some very top level
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  competitive I understand that our numbers may be slightly less, but the end result
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  is we have to do something on our side to be able to grow those
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  numbers. I think these numbers were phenomenal, and if I'm correct, they'd
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  be higher than any Vault Tour or any event, single event that we put
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  on this year. And we, meaning the GG in the whole community,
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  say we put on no Vault tours this year did but this this is for
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  gig. But I'm saying this was the biggest event of twenty twenty three,
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  is it not? Okay? So that that is a huge celebration right there,
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  and it was. I don't know. I thought that it was run
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  smoothly and I enjoyed it. Wait, there's something, there's there's some things
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  to be able to be worked on. There's no question about that, and
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  you're going to hear it. I know that some people were salty, but
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  I think overall, if you look at the whole event and the amount of
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  individuals there, there was a lot of great KeyForge and a lot of great
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  memories that were formed. But I would say I would definitely say it lived
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  up to the extra Crispy Moniker. It was. It was tasty. It
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  was except they ran out of food at one point, but then they got
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  and Josh did chime into our AC Live show saying it was the largest event.
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  So I think ninety nine was previously the largest, and that was Philly.
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  No, it was the largest event was Italy. Well, I'm saying
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  State Side, which was Philly's largest. That wasn't Philly in like one I
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  thought it was. That was just like and then there was like two and
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  a half people playing Alliance, right, so two and a half one guy
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  was trying to play both sides. As I mean, we could go back
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  to the articles that read them, but wah, I want to say it
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  was like not known for their facts. Yeah, I think it was nineteen
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  something like that. One thirty seven participated in the in the qualifiers. So
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  speaking of qualifier. We all lined up to get our decks. Sheep sheep
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  hearted everybody to get decks. You walk ewalk and I helped kind of just
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  make sure people had a good idea to try to speed up the lines.
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  But wow, like there were three there was one quick line, like registration
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  went really quick, and then you if you didn't bring your own decks,
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  you stood in line forever because they only ran one register to sell everybody three
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  decks, and then they had one to two lines going because they actually did
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  scan the decks to try to control any questionable shenanigans. Was sealed, But
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  I mean, how did all of our all our purchases of resealing glued sales
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  are? Yeah, they were good task work. Nobody caught any of our
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  resealed decks, so it was fantastic. Patted me down when I registered,
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  They were like, all right, where is it? They actually just reach
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  over and glue the judge's eyes shut and then they can't tell that's right?
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  All right? So I do need to interject, Wookie, you are are
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  right. The three day events saw one hundred and thirty players descend upon the
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  city of Philadelphia, so you had one hundred and eighteen participating in ark On
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  an Alliance. Ninety nine was your Arkon and then you had nineteen an Alliance,
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  so you were right with the ninety nine. But we did actually see
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  one hundred and thirty, well one hundred and thirty. My bad, I
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  missed thirty people. Sorry to the thirty people I missed, I will say
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  on the tour yet, sheep, you and I did help. I mean,
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  we've been there before and we offered our services, and why not,
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  That's what we do for a community. I think you did a great job.
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  I won't off our sweet new shirts. Oh those were those were some
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  pre sweet shirts. If you haven't seen what did we get for ac guys?
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  What was it that we were showing off? I mean this is podcast
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  vaguely house themed jerseys. Yes, so hopefully see us next year and see
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  if you can spot which house we each represent. Or check out our face
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  pages and interweb things. Can you check out our dinner. You can check
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  out our TikTok. You can check out our Facebook. A lot of them
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  are getting posted as I make either videos or just even on Instagram. I
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  posted a lot of the pictures I took. I was, uh, you
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  know, I think I'm pretty sure I was house Carolina Panthers. I think
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  that's what my house was. There's no purple in the Carolina Panthers logo.
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  Wow, all right. I would say that what we do want to see
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  for streamlining, because I know GG is in kind of a moment of reflecting
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  and being able to modify for next year, that as you come in,
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  i'd recommend pick up my day in six to eight weeks, Hey six eight
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  weeks, but regardless, being able to pick up decks and just have a
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  quick sign if you need decks over here and kind of scoop people to the
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  left as your entry if you have your decks to the right. And I
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  would have honestly put a table for check in instead of in the center by
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  the door, I would put it in the back right, let people check
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  in, and as they continue, keep that line just cycling right through.
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  You steal all the Sydney's. Now she took notes on all this stuff.
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  Hey, I'll fix them. Yeah, we've done enough work. I think
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  that's a streamline. And then after once once that line died down, which
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  it wasn't too bad, but once it died down, then I would move
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  the table back for checking. It's just that the biggest thing was you guys
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  at World's were the biggest hold up. You guys participating in the world was
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  the largest hold up because of the deck checks. They were done. We
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  were done, and we all had our decks. Maybe maybe I've got my
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  days confused. You have your days confused, because the first day was our
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  LCQ cold medications, a thing that exists that I've been taking a lot of
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  and and this this is why I did well with the event, so you
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  know, remembering things. Yeah, So the first day, which other interesting
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  things is they had to break their one twenty eight cap because that event was
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  capped at one twenty eight, but they had more than one hundred and twenty
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  eight players show up, so they had to decide what to do, and
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  they decided to break the cap and let everybody end, which was probably the
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  right decision, although really the right decision would have been to separate the qualified
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  World players from the unqualified World players, because it would have made two shorter
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  events and I wouldn't have had to concede my games and I would have actually
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  played key Forge, which would have been nice. Wait you tell me about
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  that. So you conceded games well, I I went with the guys who
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  are like, there's a lot of hate that they're letting Worlds players get in,
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  and I actually don't go to these events just to crush dreams. So
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  Canada, Yeah, well I definitely go to Canada to crush dreams, so
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  like, but I had nothing else to do. You could have played Menagerie.
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  No, not then, because everybody's playing in the stupid seld. So
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  with this very exciting sield as it was, right, I'm super disappointed that
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  I could not land early to get there. Yeah, so I played my
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  first game and I conceded then one, and then I played or no maybe
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  I don't know. And then I played my second game, but I conceded
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  then finished it out because they were both people who were trying to qualify,
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  So I just sat down and conceded before we even started the game. And
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  then sure I did with myself to win against anybody who wasn't already qualified,
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  which was the two people I played. So that was that. So I
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  like, hmm, I don't know, like I so I would have just
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  played right like we're we're in an event, like were to have a qualified
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  Sure, But but if I, like I don't know about the like play
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  the game is how I feel right like we we come here to play the
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  game. Hey, tournaments letting folks in and like, okay are they aren't
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  they qualified? Just like just you know, just win your games. Play
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  a way. It was a little awkward playing against people who had not qualified
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  when you had, because you feel that you're just ruining their dreams. You
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  are playing for literally nothing, So so what it What it was was more
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  of a king maker that we had seen a standard traditional board game, like
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  I have nothing to be gained from it outside of pride of where you finish,
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  and it doesn't really matter because the big event was on Saturday and you
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  wanted to play for worlds. So I get what she's saying. I think
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  that it could be easily separated and it will change a little bit. Sorry,
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  we were playing for tickets for the prize wall. Yes, yes,
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  yes, I also gave away all of my tickets for the prize wall.
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  I did as well. You guys are just so generous. Look at you.
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  I mean that there for me. Oh you want those DT decks?
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  Yeah, sweet sweet DT decks? I did, I did. I did
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  get a pair of sleeves. I also did give some tickets away, and
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  Hiram Glass also helped me out with getting some tickets to so, I mean,
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  I get it. It was but it was fun. It was something
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  that they listened again to us as the community, and then they responded was
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  ill, I'll give them the tri for doing the prize wall. However,
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  for some of us who have had had access to these, you know,
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  just took them a pickle. Yeah, exer, you're not getting on stage.
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  I don't know what you're thinking. It's not happening, but so we
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  get it a day one. The prize wall was definitely an improvement. A
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  little disappointing that it was all of the stuff that's already been given away.
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  I would have liked to see the pins for the event there. At least
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  that would have been something I didn't already own. You could buy those for
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  twelve dollars up front. They weren't twelve. What did I really pay twelve
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  dollars for a pin? You sure did? Oh gosh awesome. As I
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  had to ask for my receipt and I was like, these there, how
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  much it's a pin? But sheep, I believe you went one and two?
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  No, I was ow and too to win a game. I went,
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  I went two and two. Seems that poo pus pooh still equals pooh.
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  So my decks were sixty five sixty five fifty five. I don't know
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  if you even checked your seat you mean? It turns out Alliance doesn't make
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  bad decks better. It gave me agency, damn it. Uh huh.
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  I felt the worst because I felt like an agency. I felt the agency
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  really through me. So I was given the option of ship or ship over
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  there, over there in that far left corner. There was ship over there
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  in the far left corner. No problems from the three decks I opened.
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  I actually had a deck that would have probably competed if it was single deck.
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  But once you set Alliance, none of my decks were gonna be anywhere
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  near competing. I could have gone, who this guy in? Oh my
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  god? No, no, no, no, where do I move him
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  to? There? We thank you? Learn to speak so much faster.
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  Yeah, it needs to be quicker on the button. I think it was
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  just second. So just you're gonna you're gonna have to take X ray or
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  Ewok's tools away today. He's gonna be he's gonna be a pain. But
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  e wok. You did quite well and the l SEC died do that you
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  did a thing I did. I did actually start with a buye, so
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  that was a little bit sad, but also giving by the players who also
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  qualified. Thanks. Honestly, there was first round byes. There was one
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  because there was we had an odd number, yeah, and that was me,
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  And honestly, I would much rather I would much rather have been myself
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  than an anyone else and to sit out for that first round. But second
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  round I got a chance to play Felipe or Cookoo from Chile. Awesome,
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  awesome gentlemen, really nice and fun to play. I met him and then
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  his significant other who is with him, Miggie always always fun was our round
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  three and I actually lost that game, and then met Apps and then we
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  saw m Fleva from Michigan and I finished up with quick draw. So I
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  actually finished nineteenth overall kind of with that four and two record, and I
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  had fun being able to play. Let's put it this way, Let's go
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  through the l SEC results. Champion Harmed already qualified, runner up Peen seventy
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  three qualified for Alliance Top four. Cody Kratz qualified for Alliance Top four.
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  Dorian already qualified. Top eight Local car a top eight quick draw qualified for
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  Arkhan, top eight Gene already qualified, Top eight can be already qualified.
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  Four of the top eight were already qualified. So I know that we actually
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  had a good discussion was this Sunday morning or was this Sunday on the way
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  home? But because there was a lot of time that was kind of spent
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  for determining who is the top qualifier and all the way down and boys,
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  I don't know who's meant nothing. Well, but but that was I think.
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  But I think that was the thought process that went through our whole group,
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  is that you could actually have used strength of schedule and you could have
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  just had a cut no no, but but but but listen, if we
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  knew that there was a do but if there was going to be if there
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  was going to be let's say, fifteen people, it was nine and seven,
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  so sixteen three rounds at the end, right, Yeah, And I
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  think that's where you can help out your staff, and both the judges and
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  the actual GG members were there and just caught here's your top here's your top
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  twenty, and you go in order. I think I think it ended up
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  having very little f R. Here's what we do. We don't let already
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  qualifiers play already qualified players play in a last chance qualifier or change the name.
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  That doesn't change the fact that ultimately order on top eight was nearly meaningless.
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  Now there is also the minor thing that they didn't know exactly how many
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  spots they had until seven pm. I don't know when core rounds actually finished.
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  Yeah, well it was later than seven pm, because I think we
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  were in round That's when the because I was by z when he had to
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  go choose, because the big thing about this is you had people waiting around
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  to see how far they could get to see if they can switch. Was
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  also one of those people that waiting for that. That's what he was already
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  qualified for both. That's when I asked him, why are you waiting?
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  Like? What do you you're qualifying for both? Like? But he was
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  said, still waiting to decide. I think he thought there was going to
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  be a first round by if he took it off. I don't think so.
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  Maybe I will tell you that I I lost round six, and that
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  was roughly around five to six o'clock at night. That was still before the
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  seven o'clock cut off. We did. I did take a local car out.
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  We went to an amazing tie place. Man, if you are over
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  in Minnesota again in Roseville, I would highly recommend that type place. Absolutely
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  delicious and that was a highlight. But we had to run him back because
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  loco car did make the top eight cuts and so you were trying to get
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  him back. But I want to say that was he one L O life.
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  He was on defeated until top cut and then one L O and out.
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  So the awesome to L system. Yeah, So in case people don't
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  know at home, basically it's a two L system until top cut is determined,
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  whether that is top four or top eight, depending on what their most
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  likely going to strike. For vaults. We had seen top eight, but
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  then from that point it's just a best of one. So it is possible
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  to have the local car syndrome where you basically, hey, you go and
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  you win all of your games, and that would have been I've lived this
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  year, yeah six and oh, and then you turn around. It's not
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  a survival and I did learn that the hard way too, but it's something
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  important to know. You also live that life just in Arcave. It happens
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  as long as you know it, it's at least more. It doesn't really
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  make it feel a whole lot better. No, it doesn't. Is there
• 25:52
  a reason we don't just go full out too? L Maybe Josh can't extra
• 25:57
  extra time? I mean, think of about the extra time there. Do
• 26:00
  you remember when it was double elimination or double what was it? It was
• 26:03
  just straight double elimination extra time. Don't give me that that's an excuse.
• 26:10
  It double elimination for overall rounds? Yes, overall it'll add what a few
• 26:18
  more rounds probably, But that's an impact on your staff members and your judges.
• 26:22
  So they didn't care when it was double elimination. So why are we
• 26:26
  here now because I think, yeah, they care and they're trying to make
• 26:30
  it better. I agree on that. Yeah. Wow. Anyways, I
• 26:34
  just it is the one l O, the one life socks didn't matter for
• 26:40
  me. I went to too, I got bibity bounced. So yeah,
• 26:45
  after you were eliminated about the only meaningful thing going on was menagerie. Well,
• 26:52
  before you go there, I do want to say shout out to the
• 26:55
  other people who qualified, so they had outside of the top of the need
• 26:59
  to read every list people can read on the internet, Hey, this actually
• 27:03
  matters because if you look at the Arkon list, our Arkon runner up came
• 27:08
  from this list. Okay, so when we say that, I think that
• 27:15
  it does give some validity to going ahead and playing this LCQ and being able
• 27:19
  to then have a slot in Worlds because you can still do it really well.
• 27:23
  I love seeing that. I loved seeing this Cinderella story just like that.
• 27:26
  When we talk about world finishers, yeah, I will say that not
• 27:34
  only that, but Mickey also showed up in the Alliance side in the top
• 27:37
  four two, which was really neat to see. So you actually had an
• 27:41
  ARCon top four and an Alliance Top four who showed up in the LCQ.
• 27:45
  Certainly a lot of very good players who did not get a chance to qualify
• 27:52
  through the relatively few seats offered throughout our season. There are not very many
• 27:57
  seats, and there are definitely more good players then there are seats offered for
• 28:02
  this event. There were a lot of deserving people who were onable to get
• 28:07
  to enough events or get lucky to finish or whatever. Right like, there
• 28:14
  are lots of deserving people who did not get to play in Worlds. But
• 28:19
  that's why it's called we really yes, that is true too, so we
• 28:23
  did LSQ once you were down with ELSQ. Really the only real thing going
• 28:29
  on was Menagerie, which on day one I opened my one managerie deck.
• 28:34
  It had one really bad packet and one really good packet, and then I
• 28:40
  went on to ruin fourteen people's days by beating them. Here's here's your quarter,
• 28:47
  fuck your sheet. Oh that was ridiculous. I was so upset.
• 28:52
  Most people after playing me were like, yeah, that was not fun.
• 28:56
  Yeah, well I what was your Do you want to what your your big
• 29:03
  packet was? I had quad curses, yes, so it was all in
• 29:10
  my I had my geistoid house, had cursive cowardice, which actually didn't mean
• 29:18
  a ton in the games. It was annoying but pretty easy to manage,
• 29:22
  especially since my next one was Curse of Disappearance, which lets you archive every
• 29:26
  turn. At the end of your jurney, you picked one of your creatures
• 29:30
  and put it in my archive, so it's hard to establish board against that
• 29:36
  deck if that's down. And then the next one I had, it's a
• 29:38
  curse that says any creature not on a flank that shares a house with a
• 29:45
  neighbor gets stunned, so even if you did play a bunch of creatures,
• 29:48
  they all end up stunned. And then my last one was my last course
• 29:53
  said at the end of your turn, perch the top card of your discard
• 29:59
  pile. So it's just this massive, nasty grind. And then I had
• 30:03
  a couple other geistoid cards that let me discard five cards off top of my
• 30:07
  deck, and then I had the one that said I got Winds of Death,
• 30:11
  which is first all players archive all creatures in their discard after I just
• 30:18
  discarded all my cards and then destroy all creatures. So I'm archiving like fifteen
• 30:26
  creatures, and I have double Cup with a Taunter over in my Unfathomable house,
• 30:33
  so you return with that, and then they're just like, okay,
• 30:36
  I can play one creature and then you archive it. Yeah, this is
• 30:41
  gonna go great game. Yeah it was fun, but that that's not so.
• 30:48
  The one thing I say about what I was playing is it's not a
• 30:51
  real it's a it's going to be a very rare real deck because you definitely
• 30:56
  don't get multiple curses in the same house, right, because it's one curse
• 31:00
  house and they are rares and you can only get three at most so what
• 31:07
  I was doing is not going to be very common. Then my other my
• 31:15
  other packet was a really trashy anomaly exploiter packet. It came with two anomaly
• 31:21
  exploiters, a static charge, and a group think tank. It is depressing.
• 31:29
  Its still better than Shadows weapons. Day one, most people were not
• 31:33
  putting arc on or you were allowed to alliance your managerie decks if you wanted.
• 31:37
  But on day one most people were just playing their decks as is,
• 31:41
  and there were a lot of trashy packets out there. There were a whole
• 31:47
  bunch of I got the rare token generating creature as my packet, so they
• 31:52
  got Moller Scolar as their packet, and their deck could literally generate zero tokens.
• 31:59
  I saw a lot of it. I saw a lot of like I
• 32:01
  can't generate tokens and then having the rare token generator as your packet. So
• 32:07
  the amberling, I saw a few of those where you could make amberlings,
• 32:10
  but you couldn't actually make any amberlings. Uh. There were some other cool
• 32:16
  stuff, but I didn't run into anybody with a Jenka packet, not not
• 32:22
  on day one. I ran into a lot of stuff that couldn't deal with
• 32:24
  it. I did see Dev Dev Dev had a really cool five molific corn
• 32:36
  that was oh I played against. I don't know if it was that one
• 32:39
  I played against multi molific corn it was it was Crez Molific Corns was oppressive,
• 32:46
  but the deck didn't make amber, so sooner or later I started just
• 32:51
  archiving them all through my effects and I was able. But like, we
• 32:53
  played a long time of neither of us really doing much until I find was
• 33:00
  able to archive enough of his deck to be like hah and purge the top
• 33:02
  con. Well, let's put it this way. You and I played Sheep.
• 33:06
  I believe you archived eighteen of my creatures twenty was it you? Well,
• 33:13
  it was twenty two cards in my archive and we had like thirteen purged
• 33:19
  cards or something something like that. Well, I did not even choose to
• 33:22
  play sheet because my sweet packet just had has Sis Raptors. And this is
• 33:30
  why we can come back to our segment. Why SUCKI key Forge because I
• 33:35
  could not win a game of a Nazerie until the very very very very very
• 33:40
  very very end, and that was gonna head and gifted. But it did
• 33:46
  pay in the other side because ARCon paid very very well for me, So
• 33:52
  in retrospect, I will definitely take that win. But why sucker Key Forge
• 33:55
  is because I cannot win a game of Azerie. Boys and girls did not
• 33:59
  happen. The scrappers don't do much watch out for shadows weapons. I don't
• 34:06
  care what sheep says. Shadows weapons is straight shadows garbage. You just suck.
• 34:10
  That's your problem. When you get a house twelve twelve artifacts, that's
• 34:16
  what shadows weapons is double spike trap, double miasthma, I mean double miasma
• 34:22
  bomb. You're just delaying the inevitable, double seeker needle, double long fused
• 34:28
  mines. I forget there was another double like it was doubles of everything that
• 34:31
  was a weapon. So I had a house that was legitimately twelve artifacts.
• 34:38
  Wow, yep, My other creatures that die are so good. Yeah.
• 34:43
  I had another packet with Dave, but there are only three mutants. Is
• 34:45
  he also had a Dave packet with only three or four mutants, so it
• 34:50
  was low. I would have loved to have seen that ramped up and think
• 34:53
  of So we had the hass to raptors. We had the dav packet.
• 34:58
  Oh, I did have my my third packet allowed for some fun. It
• 35:02
  was epic Quest. However, Epic Quest I had lots of nights. But
• 35:09
  my first game, when I got close, good wholesome Niffle Kong, destroyed
• 35:15
  that chance. And then in game number three it was destroyed by a simple
• 35:23
  Poltergeiser, So it was an artifact destruction and I just I hung my head
• 35:28
  because that was my only out to be able to get a key. But
• 35:30
  it was That was a lot of fun. Man. I'm telling you,
• 35:34
  if you pull off an epiquest, you should just win the game. Question
• 35:38
  just say, if you do this, win the game. Yeah. Now,
• 35:43
  So I got I got a bunch of cool stuff. I was pretty
• 35:45
  happy with what I got from a packet perspective. So I got Jenka.
• 35:49
  That was cool. I got Sins, so I got a bunch of sins
• 35:52
  in a deck. That was cool. I had a fun data Forge packet
• 35:59
  with a bunch of like you know, clot unquote legacy stuff. But didn't
• 36:04
  you get the key racking too? I did. I did. I got
• 36:08
  the key racking house, uh, and I got Sanctum Laws. So the
• 36:15
  key rackting I guess I got even you know, there's multiple packets of these,
• 36:19
  but anyway, I did get the key racking house. The key racking
• 36:22
  house was uh not good. You can say it was. It was awful,
• 36:31
  but but you know it was fun. But basically it was the key
• 36:36
  racking why like all the all the creatures set on them, like if the
• 36:40
  key rocking is not in play, archive this creature, which if well,
• 36:49
  if that was on a play effect, maybe there's something there. But it
• 36:52
  was on a constant effect. Meaning as soon as the key racket died and
• 37:00
  my first game it was uh kill, it was purged with what's that code
• 37:07
  of sanctum card purchase of creature with power five or higher? I forget what
• 37:12
  that gets called harder they fall or whatever. The so I got purged and
• 37:19
  that almost hit just gets archived. It's like oh and like, oh you
• 37:23
  play a house down. That's good, I suppose, but then you have
• 37:29
  to you have to take a turn to archive it, like just calling because
• 37:31
  eventually you're going to be full of key racking cards. I guess that's what
• 37:36
  I would say is it would have been nice if you don't have the key
• 37:38
  racking they changed attacks to go search for key racking or if it is purged,
• 37:45
  then archive the card like in a different house, something different. But
• 37:49
  I saw a couple of people frustrated that they could not do anything whenever they
• 37:52
  got to the key racking. The beast one I heard of is somebody opened
• 37:58
  the key racking house, but it had Maverick more wolves in it, which
• 38:05
  prevented it from printing the key Racken in that pod. It's definitely some crazy
• 38:20
  stuff that can happen. It was okay, like I said, like mine
• 38:25
  was oppressive and people generally said bad things to me after I beat them,
• 38:32
  but I usually do it. We usually do after we face I'm a bad
• 38:37
  person, and I just kept doing it. But I warned people. They're
• 38:39
  like, yeah, you want to play it, and I said sure,
• 38:42
  but you're not gonna enjoy it. Well, they assumed it was just because
• 38:46
  they had to talk with future to be there. He did. He did
• 38:52
  say he said that to me. I'm like, let's plase, like,
• 38:53
  you're not gonna like it, and I'm like, how bad could it be?
• 38:57
  And then all of a sudden it starts putting the curses on me.
• 38:59
  I'm like, you dirty. Yeah. So I mean that was Friday right
• 39:07
  like it was. It was the Last Chance Qualifier, which was you know
• 39:12
  for what it was, but they said for how the prizes were effectively given
• 39:17
  out. Did they really need to play out top eight? I don't know.
• 39:23
  And then if the first place sky Harmed already was qualified, so he
• 39:30
  just ate the bye if they were going to give a first round by but
• 39:34
  they didn't say if they were, weren't, so who knows. There were
• 39:37
  other prizes? What else did they give away? They gave away something else.
• 39:42
  They gave away a pick off the prize wall to first place. Maybe
• 39:45
  it was something like that, but it was not not much. I do
• 39:50
  believe our top eight friend got nothing, uh, which he was close.
• 39:58
  Man. I picked him to win that, that was my guess. And
• 40:01
  he did what I knew he was gonna do, six to oh on the
• 40:04
  first a little bit of fire. He's never played the second half of a
• 40:07
  sealed big event before this one, so now I know I can only bet
• 40:12
  on him to go six oh. Oh, my goodness, while you guys
• 40:17
  are trashing our good freend loga car. He's a six oh guy. I
• 40:23
  mean, like he's just like sheep. He goes six to oh and loses
• 40:28
  in the first round. I will say one of the cool pod packets that
• 40:31
  I saw was a clocks packet, So keep an eye out for that if
• 40:36
  you're gonna pay him inn Azurie. If you want to lose all your games,
• 40:38
  get some clocks. Yeah. Also shadows weapons, just throw those away.
• 40:44
  There was definitely some rad penny stuff, some bad penny stuff there was.
• 40:50
  I don't even I didn't see much on I don't know what any untamed
• 40:52
  packets were. I had an untamed packet that had amber burst with with uh
• 41:00
  with hunting which and a couple okay, some fun there that that actually was
• 41:07
  in the last deck that I got, because I got a chance. Boys
• 41:09
  and girls, when you don't win games, you get more menagerie decks.
• 41:15
  Yeah. Four. And I was able to alliance my stuff because you got
• 41:22
  handed a sheet in a little envelope which gave you your nightfall ticket and your
• 41:28
  menagerie rules. And I played Z and Z. He's like, you can
• 41:30
  you can alliance these? I'm like, where does this say that? He's
• 41:34
  like on your on your menagerie sheet. I'm like, I didn't fucking read
• 41:37
  that thing. Yeah, I definitely didn't know you could do that. Not
• 41:39
  that I read that thing. I read it. I knew I played with
• 41:45
  ID. I quit playing that once people started playing me with a lions to
• 41:50
  access that. I'm out. That's enough of this, but that's a story
• 41:52
  for Saturdays Day. So did we do that? That was ended up taking
• 42:00
  najerie though at the end of Sunday we can share that that's part. That's
• 42:07
  all part of the Nazerie. Just read Day two Z we get into the
• 42:15
  World Championship worlds happened. So pretty much AC half of a C went into
• 42:23
  one room and the other half of AC, the loser half, me and
• 42:28
  DASCR went into the other room. Not really a lot of information shared until
• 42:36
  players were coming out of the first room. But DASCR, how did you
• 42:42
  end up in the in the open? Uh? So? Thankfully I was.
• 42:46
  I was better arrested that day. I I crashed when I got back
• 42:51
  to the hotel, and I actually when you guys were talking about the Thai
• 42:58
  restaurant, I was like, oh, I should ask him what the tire
• 43:00
  restaurant was. And then I was like sitting here for a moment, I
• 43:02
  was like, wait, no, I was definitely there. Yeah, you
• 43:06
  were there with us. I'm so out of it, dude, I thought
• 43:10
  you were going to sleep in our our food there. You were so out
• 43:16
  of it, and I'm like, just go home, dress, get some
• 43:19
  sleep. No, I'm gonna go back. I got to play. That's
• 43:22
  what you kept telling me. Literally been there for the ac picture and then
• 43:24
  just slept. So but yeah, I started out strong. So I started
• 43:31
  out going three and oh and my deck was playing well. I was feeling
• 43:37
  good. I felt like I was playing playing well, heads up, paying
• 43:43
  attention to what's going on. And uh, but then I dropped the next
• 43:46
  two games. And so the first game, I uh, I'm reading the
• 43:53
  deck list and I'm like, oh cool, no, no, uh scale
• 44:00
  emberor h. And we started playing right and I start bursting and uh,
• 44:09
  he goes Eric plays a Legacy last Scroll. I'm like, well, wait
• 44:17
  a second. So I grabbed the card right like because like it was like,
• 44:22
  wait, wait, we just talked about this card. Oh crap.
• 44:27
  Uh you know a Dark Tidings Legacy rare which says, oh yeah, all
• 44:32
  your excess ember right, each of your creatures capture an excess ember when you
• 44:37
  foured a key. So I was like, a crap. So I definitely
• 44:40
  played into that incorrectly. Ended up being really close in the end. We
• 44:46
  we both made some mistakes in that game, but uh just just barely lost
• 44:52
  there, and I was like, darn, I could have I could have
• 44:57
  could have set myself up for success better, played that differently and been in
• 45:01
  much better shape, and uh the now. Then the game after that,
• 45:08
  it was, uh, my opponent had this big artifact deck where he was
• 45:13
  just laying out tons of artifacts and uh, you know, he started out
• 45:19
  slow, but as he gained momentum, double tourist trap just given me,
• 45:23
  giving me his tokens taking all my good stuff right, And it was also
• 45:28
  very close. There was a lot of like trickiness right at the end of
• 45:31
  the game, and I was like doing this optimally, like I feel like
• 45:36
  this is the right move, but I'm not sure, and I lost.
• 45:40
  Unfortunately. Now it turns out that Ben the Monkey was standing always behind me.
• 45:45
  Uh he was being good Like I didn't even know he was there.
• 45:49
  So he came over to me and he was like, I don't think there
• 45:52
  was anything you could have done, Like even if you had gone, you
• 45:54
  know, the other path, he would have just had the same results.
• 45:58
  So it was like, Okay, that maybe feel a little better that I
• 46:00
  didn't misplay on that one. But it was it was just each had like
• 46:07
  a million umber and we just kept stopping each other from forging uh And I
• 46:13
  ran out of a oh when my Destroyer of the Mall was all the way
• 46:17
  on the bottom of the deck in the last three cards, so I never
• 46:20
  got to take out any of his artifacts, which was unfortunate. So that
• 46:24
  was a that was an l but so I was unfortunate. But but overall,
• 46:32
  I thought, my my deck. I'm gonna practice more with that deck.
• 46:37
  I liked the deck, and I'm gonna play with it again. I
• 46:40
  wasn't I wasn't angry at the deck. I made some misplays myself. All
• 46:50
  right, what did you finish? Full three and two? So I guess
• 46:57
  they've told you what place or whatever in the app I remember, Yeah,
• 47:00
  I wasn't paying attention either. I went too and two both of my loss.
• 47:05
  RNG was a cruel, cruel mistress to me this weekend. First game,
• 47:10
  my deck came out upside down. I am playing Donovan, I know
• 47:15
  what I need. I discard three cards into five. Don't get it.
• 47:20
  That's basically GG. I knew at that point that I didn't get it.
• 47:22
  So it was over. Game two and three go the way Donovan should go.
• 47:29
  I think it was one key to the first game was one key to
• 47:34
  three. Second game was no keys to three. So riding pretty high,
• 47:39
  feeling pretty good until I ran into the largest high role I've ever run into
• 47:45
  since Doctor Sheep at a regional tournament. First turn MK two Generator make token
• 47:52
  token his grunt. Next turn he lays out six Mars creatures and some more
• 47:57
  tokens. Nice. So at that point I'm like, Okay, this is
• 48:00
  over. There's no reason for him to ever leave Mars at that point,
• 48:06
  which he just didn't, and just three turns later I lost. So that
• 48:12
  that sucked. It was it was a lot of not fun and well,
• 48:16
  but it is what it is. You know. Sometimes orang yeah tells you
• 48:21
  she loves you, and sometimes she's burning your clothes on the front lawn.
• 48:23
  You know, these things they happen. Yeah, I mean, the the
• 48:28
  Donovan is such a powerful back, right, But if you just flop a
• 48:32
  huge board, it's well, it has time, right, it has a
• 48:37
  gateway, it's got some it's got some c but not massive amounts. Well,
• 48:43
  yeah, it's not taking care of it's not taking care of you know,
• 48:47
  pretty much. Eight creatures turn turned two, like, my only option
• 48:52
  was to have the gateway, to which I did not, So I'm like,
• 48:55
  what, I have the most of them, maybe I can find it
• 48:58
  and stabilize. Played it, went to go find it, didn't happen.
• 49:05
  Next turn, I'm like, well, I mean this is pretty pretty much
• 49:07
  over. Tried again, didn't happen, and I knew. I knew it
• 49:12
  was done. So it sucked. It is what it is, Rang,
• 49:15
  just as Rang can't be mad at her. But that was me and Drascord's
• 49:21
  experience. Ewok, what was going on over in the tournament that mattered section?
• 49:27
  Oh, it all mattered. But over in the Arkhan side, I
• 49:31
  did not have a buy so I started right away playing math and love so
• 49:36
  Elliott, who was one of our play in people from the LCQ, and
• 49:40
  this deck it ended up winning. I was playing Melondrac, which is a
• 49:45
  WOA dack and the three houses there are Synctum Starlines and Unfathomable and triple be
• 49:55
  Fun if you're wondering, Yeah it is. It is a triple befun double
• 50:00
  membership drive, and so it's a it's a fun deck for me to play,
• 50:07
  not necessarily for others to play against, but Elliott was basically playing with
• 50:13
  TMTP and he had some nice steal going, so I actually had to kind
• 50:17
  of restrain myself. There was a part near the end where I had a
• 50:22
  chance to do my double membership drive and actually discarded one of the membership drives
• 50:28
  because it was going to send me instead of it was going to send me
• 50:31
  to nine just from that second membership drive, and so I stated, I
• 50:36
  waited right at five, and at that point I knew that he most likely
• 50:40
  had the TMTP because there were three cards left. So just trying to play
• 50:45
  clean and play smart, and I finished that game. Round number two I've
• 50:50
  faced off against team member Nova or Legend of Elena and well known deck with
• 50:57
  Jacques I It basically the game was determined in the opening series. I did
• 51:06
  mulligan. I did not see the cards that I wanted my turn then for
• 51:10
  playing, I dropped down Colonel Marianna, which is a five power one armor
• 51:16
  Spirit Night. It does have capture, but that wasn't anything to really worry
• 51:21
  about. She dropped down Oduac and from there I decided on my next turn
• 51:28
  to go ahead and fight my Colonel Marianna, and I used a card which
• 51:34
  is renewed life, so an amber action from sanctum rare fully heal a creature,
• 51:39
  make a token creature for each damaged heel this way. Now Nova did
• 51:45
  have a failing strike. She opted to play it for the amber, but
• 51:49
  not to damage because she had not played Oduac at that point, and so
• 51:53
  that was a decision. We talked kind of after. She's like, I
• 51:57
  could have mitigated this by playing and then actually exalting Odoac in order to do
• 52:02
  it again. I still think she made the right call, but it was
• 52:05
  an interesting thought process to kind of see. But I played out four creatures
• 52:09
  and I now have the board. I went with Membership Drive to check to
• 52:15
  follow up right after that, and so that was a pretty brutal turn and
• 52:19
  then I was able to basically double befuddle and pretty much lock the game up.
• 52:25
  So that game was done very very quick. Round three, I actually
• 52:30
  faced off against a good friend who I placed from volt Warriors online, and
• 52:36
  that was Ashi Taka so from France and AFK and Sebastian was on a really
• 52:43
  really really tricky MM deck and this this deck I had practiced ahead of time.
• 52:49
  I knew that it was going to be here, and honestly, I
• 52:52
  could not beat it in the practices that I ran up against. So I
• 52:55
  knew what would be kind of key to be able to hold, and that
• 52:59
  was my release. And this game was a brain burner. It was really
• 53:07
  It required a lot. I had an early lead, I got to second
• 53:13
  key, and then Ashitaka just took over the It was a lethological deck with
• 53:22
  dav and man like Cronus to archive. I want to say, on a
• 53:25
  given turn for logos, Ashitaka was able to go ahead and easily archive ten
• 53:31
  ten plus cards and I'm not joking about that. To see that happen,
• 53:36
  that was it was scary. So we kind of battled back and forth,
• 53:42
  and eventually I made the choice that I had to hold my catch and release,
• 53:49
  and I held it for probably a solid three turns. But Ashtaka finally
• 53:52
  made a choice to go ahead and call back his archives. But he played
• 53:57
  his off house and he was with cards in hand, and at that point
• 54:02
  I had a whole bunch of captured amber, but I needed a push,
• 54:06
  and so I played the catch and release knowing that it would send him to
• 54:09
  eleven Amber, and I basically pushed. I'd be fuddled so that he was
• 54:17
  not able to go ahead and play cards. He had not drawn Fount of
• 54:22
  the Eye in this matchup, and he ended up having to discard eleven of
• 54:29
  his cards because catch and release. I had to be fuddled ahead of time,
• 54:35
  so I did call a sanctum, and that was dangerous because all he
• 54:39
  had to do was gain one more amber, and I could not stop him
• 54:43
  at all. And luck was on my side because he did not have the
• 54:47
  amber in hand, even though his sanctum did have some amber pips. And
• 54:52
  that was the game. So he shook hands and I went on to game
• 54:55
  number four, which was against Matt or the Revent line from England. So
• 55:01
  shout out to Matt. I know, man, you were really worried about
• 55:06
  our game. But he was on Sasha, and if you are not familiar
• 55:09
  with Sasha, Sasha is solid traditional aoa so double Martian generosity key abduction deck.
• 55:17
  And not only that, but it's also double drummer, not double gang
• 55:21
  or not so double ganger, double drummer not. It's a brutal, brutal,
• 55:27
  brutal deck. But my befuddles I was able to kind of keep control
• 55:31
  of the board early on he really didn't get much going. So both with
• 55:37
  Nova and Matt, I kind of just didn't let them play cards. I
• 55:42
  know Nova had joked about only playing four cards in our game, and it
• 55:45
  did come a few more later on, but at that point the game was
• 55:49
  pretty much over, and the same was for Matts. So both of those,
• 55:52
  Nova was three to one, Matt was three zero, and I was
• 55:55
  just ecstatic. Man, I went to four and oh, and I couldn't
• 55:59
  really believe how lucky I had been, but also clean play and playing to
• 56:04
  my optimal outs, and so I was like static. And then they went
• 56:09
  ahead and said, well you have the buye and they welcomed me into day
• 56:15
  too. And it's still hard to be able to kind of picture that series
• 56:21
  of events because I'm used to Philly just grinding it out or being able to
• 56:25
  struggle through. None of the games went to time, in fact, all
• 56:30
  season long, outside of the two games that I had in Philly with the
• 56:36
  tie deck, and I had the one game in Dallas that went to time
• 56:39
  that was just a crazy first person win that there was nothing here at world.
• 56:44
  So they were all clean games, all finished with plenty of time,
• 56:47
  and I made it to Day two so both Paul and myself. I know
• 56:52
  we've been talking earlier, but Paul actually qualified as one of that last chance
• 56:59
  qualifiers and he ended up taking seconds. So I saw a mo coming from
• 57:05
  Kansas City. Is actually the person who runs the Kansas City. So shout
• 57:08
  out if you're going this weekend. I don't even know if it'll make it
• 57:10
  out, but Paul Man, you put in so much time, so I
• 57:15
  love seeing him there and love seeing that last chance qualifier being able to make
• 57:19
  it all the way up to seconds. We are on day one ewok,
• 57:24
  one day one. We are only going through events that have transpired on day
• 57:30
  one. Yeah, and both him and I made it to day two because
• 57:35
  we were four and oh, there you go. I'm pulling a sheep.
• 57:37
  I'm just playing some TCO games. Yeah yeah, actually I went on TCO.
• 57:43
  Sheep is not there. But speaking of sheep, how was your day
• 57:45
  one? This is the day two? Right? No, we are still
• 57:49
  on day one, Day one of worlds Day one world of celebration depends on
• 57:55
  where you look at it. Ah. Yeah, so I didn't have as
• 58:04
  good of a result as he walked, so my memories are not nearly as
• 58:07
  positive. What happened. Please tell us. Well, so I did start
• 58:14
  with the first round, by which means you were kicked out of the room,
• 58:20
  so standing around with not much do. I think I did play one
• 58:23
  Menagerie game, but I can't remember for sure. But that first round also
• 58:30
  had games going to time, so we stood around for forty five minutes and
• 58:37
  then it was seriously over thirty minutes after round one time or hit before we
• 58:45
  started round two, they were doing this thing where after every round you had
• 58:52
  a judge pick up your deck. That's great, right, fine, but
• 58:57
  then they were setting all the decks out for every game each round and it
• 59:00
  was taking for freaking ever. It was just just so much time wasted,
• 59:07
  so just doing nothing that was a lot of what it felt like to me.
• 59:13
  Plus I'm playing fraud, which is pretty fast, although one game did
• 59:16
  go pretty long, but I it's just tons of time in every round.
• 59:22
  There would seemed like there's fifteen twenty twenty five minutes between rounds because they were
• 59:27
  taking all the decks back to a table and then they had to find them
• 59:30
  all to put them back out on the table. We took notes on our
• 59:32
  drive home on Wedyes. They can fix this this isn't why we're here,
• 59:36
  but that was. It was just more time that didn't get us anywhere.
• 59:45
  But I think I think the solution was really simple that you came up with.
• 59:47
  But we're not here to give them solutions. I'm here to bitch,
• 59:52
  so that's what I'm going to do. So the solution, Jos, you
• 1:00:00
  we can do another day was running long, yeah, but it was to
• 1:00:05
  put out the decks by number one through thirty two and as you come into
• 1:00:07
  the room, grab your deck and go. I actually liked that they white
• 1:00:10
  gloved it. It was very similar to a top eight that you would have
• 1:00:14
  at any Vault tour, So I liked that they did that. But we
• 1:00:16
  could have we could have streamlined it by just putting it on a table the
• 1:00:20
  deck. The judges took it after top it will take your deck back after
• 1:00:24
  no. No for they for for dates, just for the deck check.
• 1:00:29
  Oh yeah, that was something that Wookie alluded to. We didn't talk about.
• 1:00:32
  They deck checked for both tournaments on day on Worlds which is good,
• 1:00:40
  right, like this is reasonable. They checked out the cards, they checked
• 1:00:44
  out the sleeves, but it took that took at least an hour, right
• 1:00:47
  because alliance takes forever too well. The only reason it was notable to me
• 1:00:52
  is because we were not allowed to start on our end because they were still
• 1:00:58
  waiting for you guys on your end. Yeah, it was. It was
• 1:01:00
  a huge line. I refused to stand in line, so I was I
• 1:01:04
  was. I was playing. I was playing a managerie game during check in
• 1:01:07
  with Ben the Monkey because the lines were huge, and I'm like, why
• 1:01:13
  why would I stand in a line? Right Like? They can't start this
• 1:01:15
  without me, so I'll just be the last person. This is fine.
• 1:01:19
  But that took an anordinate amount of time. Uh. Then I didn't play
• 1:01:25
  the first round, so I sat around did nothing, and then waited half
• 1:01:30
  an hour between rounds, so I did some more nothing. Then I finally
• 1:01:34
  got to pray my first game. It is on stream. It was with
• 1:01:37
  Coco Gin. It had a lot of very high luck on both of our
• 1:01:43
  parts, but mine was just a little bit more. I won, went
• 1:01:45
  on to win a couple more games, and then I got in round four.
• 1:01:50
  I got put up against Paul uh who was your last chance qualifier,
• 1:01:55
  borrowing a scholar deck, and on turn two he ruled a s his scholars
• 1:02:00
  on me, and then even tried to play tight around me having IG,
• 1:02:07
  so he didn't even after the first key. He didn't even go much over
• 1:02:12
  six, which I did not have IG, and I lost that game.
• 1:02:16
  It was pretty close. It was two keys to three keys, and I
• 1:02:20
  had a bunch of amber. I never actually had an opening to win the
• 1:02:23
  game, but it was still pretty close. That's how it goes. So
• 1:02:29
  I'm down one. We leave the room. Round ends. Twenty minutes after
• 1:02:35
  the round ends, they have us come back in and they announced Ewok and
• 1:02:39
  Paul as qualified, and then they say this like, maybe you'll have two
• 1:02:44
  rounds. We don't really know, but the rest of you have to play
• 1:02:47
  more rounds. So however long we all wander around, they finally set out
• 1:02:54
  decks. There are six of us left or twelve of us left playing in
• 1:03:00
  our coon at this point, so those who are good with math could already
• 1:03:04
  see where this is going. So there's no shite. I don't know where
• 1:03:07
  this is going. Please tell us, Yes, there's twelve of us,
• 1:03:10
  we play this. I got to run into some of the awesome players that
• 1:03:15
  came from out of the country at this part, so it was great,
• 1:03:17
  Like all my games were great. I was thrilled to play them. They
• 1:03:22
  were good people to play with. The people made this event. The event
• 1:03:28
  didn't make it, but the people were awesome. Right, is why we're
• 1:03:31
  here. It's why I'm still here, because otherwise I think I could have
• 1:03:37
  packed up and quit key Forge after this weekend. It was really unsatisfactory.
• 1:03:44
  But I got to play Algron and I got to play Kiv. So after
• 1:03:50
  after twelve, there's six of us. Two slots are already filled. There
• 1:03:53
  are six players left, okay, so we play again. I played against
• 1:03:59
  Kiv. This one was also on stream. You can watch us make a
• 1:04:04
  mess of soul Keeper, which then two turns later the judge comes in and
• 1:04:09
  goes, really, your second grammar Jambers should be dead, which puts Kiv
• 1:04:16
  at six Amber. He's playing a Martian Generosity deck, so he doesn't really
• 1:04:19
  want to be at six amber so that he has to forge a key when
• 1:04:25
  he might have not played an Amber on his card before and been able to
• 1:04:29
  have five Amber for his keep. So h that was a disaster of a
• 1:04:33
  game. Result wise, I think fraud is still fairly favored because I key
• 1:04:38
  cheat the way I do like. It was not It was not a satisfactory
• 1:04:45
  game because the play mistake may have made a difference in the game, but
• 1:04:49
  you don't know. I've spent the rest of today fighting with people on why
• 1:04:54
  soul Keeper ruling doesn't make any sense, but what I didn't see it,
• 1:05:00
  So Soulkeeper totally off subject here. But when Soulkeeper triggers, if you have
• 1:05:09
  multiple creatures of the same power, right, probably the most powerful creature rule
• 1:05:13
  you have to pick which one is the most powerful. But in this case,
• 1:05:17
  I'd fought with one of my grabber Jammers, which put enough damage on
• 1:05:20
  it to mark it for destruction, right, and then destroyed effects are going
• 1:05:26
  off. The creature I fought had the soul Keeper on it, so the
• 1:05:30
  Soulkeeper destroyed effect goes off, and now it has to target. I have
• 1:05:32
  two grabber Jammers on the board, so I'm like, well, I just
• 1:05:36
  wanted to rekill my grabber Jammer, and Kev's like yep, and we went
• 1:05:40
  on right, And then later they came, oh, no, I can't
• 1:05:44
  target your grabber Jammer because it's already marked for destruction, so it has to
• 1:05:49
  kill the other grabber Jammer. And I'm guessing you only had one other creature
• 1:05:54
  on the board. Well, it was the two grabber jammers. It doesn't
• 1:05:56
  matter. They're the equal power highest power creatures on my side of the right
• 1:06:00
  and anyone following along at home. Soulkeeper is a dis upgrade. This creature
• 1:06:05
  gains destroyed destroy the most powerful enemy creature. Yes, so it because there
• 1:06:13
  is a rule in destroyed that a creature take for destruction cannot be chosen to
• 1:06:17
  be destroyed again. The argument is, Soulkeeper, because you are now choosing
• 1:06:21
  most powerful creature because it's tied. Can't choose that, but Soulkeeper. There's
• 1:06:29
  an FAQ ruling. If there's a six power creature and a five power creature,
• 1:06:32
  the six powers already marked, it doesn't pass down to the five because
• 1:06:36
  there is no It's like they're saying, if it's a tie, you do
• 1:06:42
  make a choice, so now you can't target a destroyed thing. But if
• 1:06:45
  it's the sixth you're not making a choice, so you're it. It still
• 1:06:50
  makes no sense to me. I hate this ruling. Whatever they did it.
• 1:06:55
  I did end up winning against Kiv because his deck on a Martian Generosity
• 1:07:00
  turn, he did miss drawing a shatterstorm, which is his primary amber control,
• 1:07:06
  which he's looping with proliferators and brain stems, and it's it's cool what
• 1:07:11
  he's doing, but it didn't quite have enough creature control on the turns.
• 1:07:15
  He needed it to stop me from just kind of logos drawing until I was
• 1:07:18
  getta the abduction, regardless of the fact he kept burning all of my amber.
• 1:07:25
  So that was it was as bad. It was a little bit on
• 1:07:32
  satisfactory. But now as we're saying, there were six people, so now
• 1:07:36
  there are three people left, you walk Paul already qualified, Ashtaka, myself
• 1:07:44
  and Dorian are left. How do you decide who gets the last two spots?
• 1:07:59
  You can't. You couldn't even round robin it because there's no guarantee.
• 1:08:01
  We all don't just go one in one in a round robin, so that's
• 1:08:04
  not really a choice at that point. Plus it's not part of their tournament
• 1:08:08
  format. Well, it turns out, so I understand which none of this
• 1:08:14
  next part is guaranteed fact because they don't give us facts. But what I
• 1:08:17
  have learned is that the way play style is now meant to run is its
• 1:08:26
  designed to do a playing round when it can instead of doing They did tell
• 1:08:31
  us at the very beginning of the event, there was gonna be no asteroids
• 1:08:35
  of space, just eliminating you on strength of schedule. So instead of that,
• 1:08:42
  the new system is random person gets in. So instead of instead of
• 1:08:49
  asteroid, it's now golden treasure chest. And so I've been thinking about this
• 1:08:55
  a lot because it's I'm really angry about it and the reason and I I
• 1:09:00
  don't want to say this now for those of you not following. Basically,
• 1:09:03
  whoever gets the buy is automatically in the money, automatically in the automatically because
• 1:09:10
  the worst you can do is fourth place, which is fifteen hundred dollars.
• 1:09:14
  That person's automatically going to get into the money in this no play in nothing.
• 1:09:19
  So I've been thinking about this. It is it was super unsatisfactory.
• 1:09:25
  Uh and actually I had the least worse experience of it. I'll talk about
• 1:09:30
  that on a second. But like I understand what they did and the choices
• 1:09:34
  they made, and when I'm looking at cutting to a top eighted a vault
• 1:09:39
  tour, yeah, somebody gets the golden I don't know whatever. We got
• 1:09:43
  to figure out what this is called the golden cherry, the golden ticket,
• 1:09:46
  the golden key. They get the golden key, right, and they're just
• 1:09:50
  gifted in to the last round. Actually in Dallas, this did work that
• 1:09:56
  way for Citha Magmar, who end up winning that event. He did not
• 1:10:00
  play the last round. He was a bye and got in right. So
• 1:10:10
  like, this isn't new, but you still have to then get to top
• 1:10:13
  eight and then you still have to play. You're not just like gifted to
• 1:10:15
  because top eight, as we know, a Vulteurs wins you absolutely nothing.
• 1:10:20
  Yep, it feels a little less bad to me versus this one where they're
• 1:10:24
  just like and you get money and you two go play and figure it out.
• 1:10:30
  I played Dorian at this point of the day, Like people can see,
• 1:10:38
  I am not in a good mood about how this event is playing out.
• 1:10:42
  I had maybe four hours of sleep, for as much as I tried
• 1:10:45
  to sleep, like the anxiousness the night before was getting me. I played
• 1:10:50
  definitely my worst game of key Forge that whole weekend against Dorian. He deserves
• 1:10:57
  his win. His deck played very well. I may made a couple of
• 1:11:00
  mistakes and kind of half trap myself. So like, I'm not upset I
• 1:11:06
  lost that game. I'm upset how the event was run that led to that
• 1:11:15
  game. It was super frustrating because you could see many rounds earlier. Actually,
• 1:11:23
  when you start looking at the math of a thirty two round tournament,
• 1:11:26
  as soon as you enter, like any first round bys, you're guaranteed to
• 1:11:30
  have a disaster at the end. So first round bys, which were gifted
• 1:11:38
  out as a thing under the old true doubly limb bracket disaster actually works just
• 1:11:45
  fine, right because you're playing a true bracket, So it works just fine
• 1:11:48
  if you do it there, But it does not work with too l O
• 1:11:51
  Swiss because the goofy buy thing ends up at the end with an uneven number
• 1:11:58
  of players, so it's really it's early round byes and not full correct numbers
• 1:12:06
  of brackets. Really makes a mess in too l O at the end.
• 1:12:10
  So although I still think it is the right thing for Vault tours and could
• 1:12:15
  be the right thing for Worlds, but not with buys. Like if you
• 1:12:19
  got rid of all the first round byes, then what happens is at four
• 1:12:24
  to ZHO two people are auto qualified. You play two more rounds and there
• 1:12:28
  are exactly two people left that have one win and they're in, and it's
• 1:12:33
  clean, right, there's no weirdness. Everybody played sort of the same number
• 1:12:39
  of games, except the four h people got in fairly easily. Did this
• 1:12:45
  just? Did this just happen in ARCon Or? Was this Alliance? So
• 1:12:49
  mine was on satisfactory. But it is what it is, and that's that's
• 1:12:54
  how it goes. No, Josh, buys are not as important as having
• 1:13:00
  a clean, correctly run tournament. That was terrible by far, Like you
• 1:13:09
  have got so much hate in the community about the way these things ended,
• 1:13:12
  and Alliance was worse. So the way Alliance worked is it was a different
• 1:13:16
  number of people, so there were slightly different buys. I don't know exactly
• 1:13:20
  where their counts were, but as my understanding, in round six Dave Cordero,
• 1:13:27
  who did get into the top four, had a bye, and then
• 1:13:30
  round seven they apparently still had exactly three players. I'm not sure exactly how
• 1:13:35
  that goes, but I know the very last round they also had exactly three
• 1:13:40
  players. It was Gorlami, Dave, and whoever the third person was.
• 1:13:47
  I'm not sure because it's Alliance Chip Baby player HERB, player herb Okay,
• 1:13:56
  so player HERP got the bye, which means, in a non top cut
• 1:14:01
  scenario, they repaired Gorlami and Dave who had already played earlier in this proxy
• 1:14:09
  Swiss tournament. It's not true Swiss, I understand, but this proxy Swiss
• 1:14:13
  tournament. The way their system works is that randomly assigns a bye and then
• 1:14:18
  doesn't validate the pairing and says go so Dave and Gorlami who played earlier,
• 1:14:26
  and our teammates had to play again to decide. Fact that they go to
• 1:14:31
  the top four, the fact that their teammates are that's irrelevant, Like it
• 1:14:36
  sucks, but that's that's funny. It's funny and it sucks, but like
• 1:14:41
  it's it's an irrelevant fact. You're right, it is irrelevant. It just
• 1:14:45
  hurts more for them as players. But the fact that they had to play
• 1:14:48
  twice before Top cut is just appalling to me personally, especially after having to
• 1:14:57
  play somebody immediately in Top cut after just playing them in regular Like the whole
• 1:15:01
  pairing system is just thing, and then their whole thing that according to them,
• 1:15:08
  there's a random by assigned like not strength of schedule. There is no
• 1:15:13
  math any player could do to say this was done right or wrong, like
• 1:15:16
  random byes are rife for misuse. Anytime you say random is garbage, well,
• 1:15:28
  I think what the choice. Yeah, I think the worst choice you
• 1:15:30
  can make, especially when you're putting twelve thousand dollars on the line and randomly
• 1:15:35
  you get to play for it. You two other guys have to figure it
• 1:15:38
  out, like the worst possible thing I think you could do in that situation.
• 1:15:43
  No, it is probably not the worst possible thing. They could just
• 1:15:45
  say, hey, we're not giving any money away because it's not going There's
• 1:15:48
  plenty of other stupidly terrible things, but the choices. And I also understand
• 1:15:54
  like they started by giving buyes and then they switched to to l oh and
• 1:15:59
  it's like, how to we fixed the disaster we made ourselves? Can't walk
• 1:16:02
  it back? I don't know. I don't actually have the answer on what
• 1:16:09
  they should have done leading into this tournament, but the math was easy to
• 1:16:15
  do to figure out what this raise my hand playing constantly that this was gonna
• 1:16:20
  be problem. Okay, I'll quit ranting for a bit, but I just
• 1:16:23
  have a question. So let's say they go to a hard top eight cut.
• 1:16:26
  Does that make something? Does that make it better or all? I
• 1:16:29
  didn't do any research or anything on it, but if they had done a
• 1:16:31
  straight hard eight top cut, here at least in ARCon And again I don't
• 1:16:36
  have all the Alliance numbers. There was a point where there were two four
• 1:16:40
  to o's and six x ones perfect top eight cut nothing weird, let them
• 1:16:45
  play single limbout like what a work. But they'd already said it was going
• 1:16:47
  to be top four. So what I think needed to happen at that point
• 1:16:53
  when you got to eight was that we cut, we repair, and then
• 1:16:57
  you cut down to four for the play. I know that odd, but
• 1:17:00
  I think that is the line. It's easy to see on Monday morning as
• 1:17:03
  Monday morning quarterback, but this was a real feel bads moment because there was
• 1:17:09
  money that was at stake, and it was feel bads for you in that
• 1:17:13
  fifth spot. Again, during played great. He deserved to be able to
• 1:17:16
  go ahead and have that win. Please know that Gorlami and Dave had played
• 1:17:21
  their matchup as teammates many times before, so earlier in the day Gorlami won
• 1:17:27
  that and and I actually walked in was talking to him and asked Gorlami,
• 1:17:30
  how you doing. He's like, not great. I just took out my
• 1:17:33
  teammate and you could hear Dave over next door go ahead, a shout yeah,
• 1:17:38
  you did, and then from this and then from there he literally said
• 1:17:42
  his odds they've played the matchup before. His odds were so unlikely, a
• 1:17:46
  very very very very small percentage, well under fifty percent. But again he
• 1:17:53
  pulled it out in that time. It is key forged cards can happen.
• 1:17:56
  But that's that's got to be absolutely depressing. When you've done everything else that
• 1:18:01
  should be done correctly, you've made it in and you know, cards just
• 1:18:05
  don't fall free for the one time. And that's a difference of a significant
• 1:18:10
  amount of money, because there was a money break between four and everyone else.
• 1:18:14
  So as as a matter of fact, this crazy buy in and four
• 1:18:23
  or five are playing for who gets in and gets out and one person's gifted
• 1:18:27
  in happening alliance open as well because of odd numbers. So I think,
• 1:18:30
  really, if they want to keep this system at the minimum, they have
• 1:18:36
  to eliminate the cut at top four, like getting gifted into top four is
• 1:18:43
  like supposedly the buys are totally random, and at the point that it was
• 1:18:47
  the three of us in ARCon we'd already all had a single buy somewhere.
• 1:18:51
  Actually, I think we were all first round buys, all three of us
• 1:18:55
  at quality. You know, so like some one of us was getting a
• 1:18:59
  second by but supposedly that doesn't actually matter how many buys you have had,
• 1:19:03
  but nobody knows because the system isn't actually public or shared it it could be
• 1:19:12
  anything. It could be jermy in the back going random this one like there's
• 1:19:16
  nothing, like there's no transparency to it, which is also kind of poor.
• 1:19:25
  I don't think they did anything shady, but just the fact that like
• 1:19:29
  the same thing they made us have to not be transparent with decks is the
• 1:19:33
  same reason the tournament software needs to be transparent right to a reasonable degree.
• 1:19:41
  Like I understand it's not going to give you all the details on how it
• 1:19:44
  randomly seeds pairings, but like on how buys are assigned later and it being
• 1:19:50
  random is just I don't know. It just doesn't feel right. Like I
• 1:19:59
  said, I don't have a problem with any of my losses, Like the
• 1:20:00
  players who beat me played well and they beat me, and it's it's what
• 1:20:06
  it is. Yeah, Eric is saying. Eric Waters is sitting the chat.
• 1:20:14
  I think this happened in all three, at all four of the events.
• 1:20:17
  No, it didn't happen in This happened in both the open events too,
• 1:20:21
  y a very similar thing. It didn't happen in regular Open because they
• 1:20:25
  did top cut to eight there. Oh well, I know it happened in
• 1:20:30
  Alliance Open. Yes, but it didn't happen open because it because it top
• 1:20:35
  cut to eight. Now maybe I'm pretty sure was it because somebody came to
• 1:20:41
  me complaining about how it was done and it was a random by and two
• 1:20:45
  people got repaired like your exact scenario happened again. Yeah, well, it
• 1:20:49
  happened in several places, and it's I it happens. Is it the best
• 1:20:56
  decision they could have made for this event? I don't think so. I
• 1:21:00
  don't. They built themselves into a bad corner and just said let's roll with
• 1:21:10
  it, which is something right. And you know they have shown improvement across
• 1:21:17
  most things across the seasons, like hopefully we'll see improvement on this. I
• 1:21:26
  mean, I'm a believer in, at least at a world's level tournament,
• 1:21:30
  the cleanness of the brackets and the play has to be as good as you
• 1:21:38
  can make it, and random buys could have zero impact at a world's level
• 1:21:45
  tournament where you are selecting the number of players. I understand as soon as
• 1:21:49
  you don't get to select the number of players down to the te it's going
• 1:21:54
  to get messy, right, because you get odd numbers, and that's a
• 1:21:59
  thing. But when you get to select the number of players, you should
• 1:22:01
  be able to build a bracket that does not end up in randomness deciding random
• 1:22:08
  buys, deciding who goes somewhere and who doesn't. Bigger open tournaments and stuff
• 1:22:15
  like where you can't set the number of people, there's gonna be messiness somewhere
• 1:22:20
  it's okay, but at worlds, at the world's level, it it really
• 1:22:25
  is not. Oh so they should do a double alimb, right, true,
• 1:22:29
  double alimb, that's what that's what look, he said, So when
• 1:22:32
  it's that way next year, we can all blame it on him. That
• 1:22:35
  week, Well, I guess I don't know. I wouldn't have cared,
• 1:22:39
  But yeah, I what time if you do the Swiss doublelimb? Right?
• 1:22:44
  Right? If we just keep double like three two? People do that because
• 1:22:48
  that makes a mess I think, because somewhere a two to one or an
• 1:22:53
  x one plays an XO and you can get an odd number and then the
• 1:22:56
  whole system's broke. Yeah. No, people, you do the tool and
• 1:23:01
  you you just keep it to exactly thirty two. That's what you do.
• 1:23:08
  End up with an odd number, odd number with thirty two people. That
• 1:23:15
  would never happen you. Yeah, because when you have two four ohs,
• 1:23:20
  okay, you then have one five oh who has to play a four to
• 1:23:25
  one, And now you can get an odd number of players after that round,
• 1:23:29
  depending on who wins, because if the X one, if the XO
• 1:23:32
  wins, if the XO loses, you now didn't lose half your players.
• 1:23:40
  You lost half your players minus one. So now you're back to odd numbers.
• 1:23:44
  This format, Swiss pairing with two l oh does not guarantee a clean
• 1:23:53
  event, right that without doing the kind of top cut they do, Like
• 1:23:59
  the kind of top cut they do where you cut two xo's at some point
• 1:24:03
  and go, you can get it. But if you just run a true
• 1:24:06
  or if you run a double elimination Swiss bracket, you can't guarantee a clean
• 1:24:12
  bracket and it will get dirty somewhere down the line. It's just how the
• 1:24:17
  math works. Maybe it works out perfect, that's unlikely. You're probably gonna
• 1:24:23
  end up with a dirty bracket at some point, so I don't I'm not
• 1:24:29
  here to provide the answers right now. I'm just here to say that the
• 1:24:32
  bracket that was run at Worlds should not be the answer next year. It
• 1:24:40
  was like what started out as mediocre playing sealed because I didn't really get to
• 1:24:45
  play sealed because of my own choice. It's fine, and then kind of
• 1:24:51
  the medium high of menagerie because my deck's winning and you know, making people
• 1:24:57
  miserable sometimes is fun. Then fall by, like the start of a day
• 1:25:01
  where I'm doing very well in arc On Worlds and then they're saying, oh,
• 1:25:06
  maybe it's only two more rounds, and I keep winning exactly a number
• 1:25:09
  of rounds where I think I'm again that oh no, you got to play
• 1:25:12
  again, Oh no, you got to play again, and I'm like,
• 1:25:14
  I just like the frustration. And then you can see how the brackets are
• 1:25:17
  building out, and we know this byas coming. So there's like going into
• 1:25:21
  that round of three, we're all just going like, who's the lucky person?
• 1:25:27
  And it was not me? And then not only was it not me,
• 1:25:30
  and then I lost and it's just like this is also nearing six o'clock
• 1:25:36
  at night, like it was a long day of key Forge, which wasn't
• 1:25:43
  even always playing key Forge because there were half an hour breaks between of a
• 1:25:47
  lot of rounds. Just it was so I played no Menagerie after that because
• 1:25:53
  I played. Basically I played all day and I get I get tickets again,
• 1:26:00
  there's tickets for a prize ball, but essentially in my world, I
• 1:26:04
  got absolutely nothing but the play experience, with which the people was great.
• 1:26:10
  But I just like again the amount of work I have put into key Forge,
• 1:26:15
  the amount of events I have top cut this year or got near because
• 1:26:21
  I didn't top cut them all, Like outside of Canada, I've got nothing.
• 1:26:27
  I my name's not on a leader board. I have nothing but the
• 1:26:30
  pins I paid for or the patches that Marcus made for us. Like a
• 1:26:38
  shut up, I'm ending this year with almost nothing for my effort, which
• 1:26:45
  you know, like I'm only almost good enough. I get that right.
• 1:26:49
  At least under the old system, I was like top ten, so I
• 1:26:53
  looked good enough even though I'm really only almost good enough. This is just
• 1:26:58
  like the end of the season, which we're getting into some other stuff.
• 1:27:00
  Is got to be the most disappointing part of key Forge I think I've ever
• 1:27:10
  had to live through. So because I lost and then they went into the
• 1:27:20
  Then we got ctp's little speech. Yep, I will I will give a
• 1:27:27
  pause for a quick little break. You talked about Marcus Marcus and the judge
• 1:27:31
  quest. So he collected the little badges from Marcus. Super super cool.
• 1:27:35
  He did that all on his own, huge shout out. It's one of
• 1:27:39
  the tokens that I really really appreciate. Call it trinket, whatever it was,
• 1:27:43
  but it's a momento that is important to me from this season. And
• 1:27:46
  not only that, but all the jerseys that he wore from each of the
• 1:27:49
  different vaults. He had kind of a little scavenger hunter quest to figure out
• 1:27:54
  what's the meaning was behind it? So super cool. If you ever gone
• 1:27:57
  to a con, you have kind of that puzzle to be able to solve
• 1:28:00
  and huge. The only thing I will say is you got that sheet and
• 1:28:04
  I had never seen it. If you if you had all the vaults,
• 1:28:11
  it was someone it was no, No, I never even got a sheet.
• 1:28:15
  Oh you've gone to the vaults, why would you get one? Going
• 1:28:18
  on? It's just about reaching out, But I know it was exclusive to
• 1:28:24
  us. Cool folk. I will say Mark Marcus did talk about at that
• 1:28:28
  exclusivity, right, Yeah, Vault Master baby, I will say Mark Marcus.
• 1:28:34
  Marcus did talk about next year actually being able to put out a quest
• 1:28:38
  for each of the different vaults or whatever if he is able to go ahead
• 1:28:43
  and be a judge again. So I think that's really neat. So that's
• 1:28:48
  a are we actually we're not going to cover the State of the Union speech
• 1:28:53
  tonight, right, No, I believe the State of the Union next week.
• 1:28:56
  That's a separate other topic because it is part of my story here.
• 1:29:01
  So we then go to the Union, which expect more downer sheep for when
• 1:29:06
  we do that. There was absolutely nothing in that that brought me up right,
• 1:29:17
  it was. There was nothing in that that help. It took my
• 1:29:25
  already bad mood and made it worse. Like I seriously like if I could
• 1:29:30
  have left after that, I would have been gone. I was done.
• 1:29:34
  I'm done with all of that crap. It was awful. Well, so
• 1:29:48
  we'll get into it. So then they did the speech and then we then
• 1:29:57
  the next thing was the not Secret Grimmer Minder Sealed, which another I thought
• 1:30:11
  the set the new set was was uh. It was fun to play.
• 1:30:14
  I thought we had it. It was super cool. But like the another
• 1:30:18
  failed marketing opportunity, like again, was keeping secret secret hush hush. But
• 1:30:25
  then like comedy more people, I don't know I to quantify, but if
• 1:30:30
  I mean it wasn't really secret. How to fix it for next week?
• 1:30:33
  I know? But again, we we could have we could have been the
• 1:30:36
  first to play Grimm Reminders at key Ford ce YadA, YadA, so on
• 1:30:40
  and so forth, like that was a missed marketing opportunity. I think I
• 1:30:43
  think we all sort of knew, right, we all sort of knew.
• 1:30:45
  But I mean again, like she says, there's still people that don't know
• 1:30:48
  about a lot of things that are just like common knowledge to others. There
• 1:30:53
  are definitely people who did not know. Because you saw post what they gave
• 1:30:57
  away Grimm reminders. You see those posts on the social media, is like
• 1:31:00
  people did not no. Now that might be because it does not matter and
• 1:31:03
  they'll never read Gigi news. They ran grim Reminders, which started an hour
• 1:31:10
  late. WOOKI really wanted to leave, nobody else wanted to go. So
• 1:31:15
  I'm like, I guess we're playing key Forge. I know we're picking I'm
• 1:31:20
  trying to pick it up because I got to go to work tomorrow. Be
• 1:31:24
  too. It was supposed to be a four round Swiss event. Wookie and
• 1:31:29
  I actually bailed after two rounds because there was prizes if you went on defeated,
• 1:31:33
  so we both had a loss. Wookie didn't eat dinner. I was
• 1:31:39
  done. I did not want to play, like I forced myself to play
• 1:31:43
  that key forge because I was kind of like, well, this is the
• 1:31:45
  new set. There's all these people I would like to, you know,
• 1:31:48
  like this should be. It was not fun, nothing to do with my
• 1:31:54
  opponents. This was all my state of being at this point. And I
• 1:31:57
  sat Sheep down and I was like, look at this. He just it
• 1:32:00
  was done, So I forget at that time. It was just time to
• 1:32:03
  go. Let's start the dras core experience. Maybe get some fliquor in him
• 1:32:08
  and he'll be just fine. Yeah, So we dropped after round two.
• 1:32:12
  Drazz used stayed to play. We went and ate some quick right yea.
• 1:32:16
  That was having fun and I was undefeated at that point, so I was
• 1:32:19
  I was rolling. So then we ate some very mediocre, highly priced Oh
• 1:32:25
  god, yeah it was bad. So then really like I'm eliminated. I'm
• 1:32:30
  really actually probably just straight like depressed. At this point, Drazz is finally
• 1:32:36
  done, I think, and it is again totally my fault, my situation,
• 1:32:41
  but I think I forced to some actpt me trying to make the draz
• 1:32:45
  Core experience a thing that was going to make my day better. But I
• 1:32:48
  was beyond saving at that point, like there was nothing that was going to
• 1:32:56
  I should have gone back to bed and saved everybody else from dealing with misery.
• 1:33:00
  No, so I am sorry for I was still in a downer on
• 1:33:05
  the dazz experience. It was all right, there was you know, the
• 1:33:09
  we did start late. It was super weird. It was a Saturday night
• 1:33:13
  downtown Minneapolis. You would would have thought these places that said they were open
• 1:33:19
  late would have been open weight. But like, we get to the first
• 1:33:23
  place, it's a little late, but like the place is supposed to be
• 1:33:26
  open for another like fifty minutes. We get there, they're like, oh,
• 1:33:29
  we're closed. We're like what so, So then I go back into
• 1:33:32
  my phone. I'm like, okay, well, what's the next option.
• 1:33:35
  And then I see the next one. Oh, even on their website they
• 1:33:39
  say they're closed. Crap, And the next one but they are also closed,
• 1:33:43
  what the heck? And so that I found one that was open.
• 1:33:46
  So we we go there and we have a good time check. So tired
• 1:33:51
  and halfway there, I turned around to park and they're like, what are
• 1:33:55
  you doing now? Like, yeah, herds are out of the middle of
• 1:33:58
  the road. I was like wait, like it's wait, wait, wait,
• 1:34:01
  time about what It just turns the car around in the middle of the
• 1:34:05
  road. Happened just past the Gentleman Club. So maybe I just decided I
• 1:34:12
  wanted to go baby. I don't know, yes, maybe Borge family.
• 1:34:17
  But because I had made Day two the top four, I wanted to go
• 1:34:23
  to sleep, and so when they started to play Grim Reminders, I asked
• 1:34:27
  sheeps like, oh, I'm going to finish right away, and his game
• 1:34:30
  went to time. But my lovely friend Sydney, who had just opened a
• 1:34:35
  beer and literally had a first step like, Sidney, can you at least
• 1:34:39
  take me home? We were only a couple of minutes away, so it
• 1:34:41
  was four minutes. So I drove, I got out, and she drove
• 1:34:45
  back. Good to hear Sheep that you're turning around in the middle of the
• 1:34:48
  street. The street was going on. It was just like, was there
• 1:35:00
  a canter cone? You turn in an intersection, that's where other cars are
• 1:35:04
  going to be. You do it in the open road where there is nobody
• 1:35:09
  where it's safe. I tried. However, we did go past the Gentleman
• 1:35:13
  Club Life four times, so I think he was in. Yeah. I
• 1:35:16
  love the logo, the size, what was what was the what was the
• 1:35:23
  logo was? What was the phrase they had on girls and three ugly ones?
• 1:35:28
  Yes, that's right, it's like, well I want to see the
• 1:35:30
  three ugly ones like so so like we forced that. So then we're getting
• 1:35:36
  back after one still can't sleep because I'm super unhappy, and then we got
• 1:35:43
  to get up early with you walk because we're going into day three. So
• 1:35:46
  uh yeah. The ultimately like, yeah, we're gonna save or fix it,
• 1:35:51
  Like I have plenty of theories on how you fix the grim Reminder sealed
• 1:35:57
  to make it better. Then how it did play out, We'll go on
• 1:36:01
  too that next week. Maybe because there was a lot of people dropping it
• 1:36:04
  was it was essentially a one l O tournament, which is just lame to
• 1:36:11
  some extent, So we all all of us bailed. A lot of people
• 1:36:15
  did stay in play, but even the Ghost Galaxy people were so tired they
• 1:36:19
  quit it. They said, we're only doing three rounds, we're giving out
• 1:36:21
  more prizes, we want to go to bed, so they cut the four
• 1:36:25
  round event to three round events, still ending like eleven thirty or midnight like
• 1:36:29
  it, which was the right move. It was a brutally long day.
• 1:36:35
  Yeah, and then I will just say so my experience was very different than
• 1:36:42
  sheeps. Now I didn't. I mean, I did lose, but I
• 1:36:44
  you're and our experience is very different. We were there to prove nothing,
• 1:36:48
  We were there to gain nothing. Like after the LCQ, it was pretty
• 1:36:53
  much over ish. I mean, we had the option in the last you
• 1:36:57
  know or not Last Chance opens. It didn't really happen for either of us.
• 1:37:02
  But like there was nothing, like there was no shady business that really
• 1:37:06
  hindered us at all, right, like Donovan, just like I said,
• 1:37:13
  mine was a cruel mistress scenario. I didn't misplay. There was literally nothing
• 1:37:17
  I could have done to impact it besides like taking their deck and like throwing
• 1:37:21
  it across the room, which I'm pretty sure I would have been dqued for.
• 1:37:25
  So there was already talks about quing me before I even signed up.
• 1:37:30
  So I decided that was a bad idea. At least the games I played,
• 1:37:33
  both in the open and in the after dark whatever right now. I
• 1:37:41
  didn't get there in time for the LCQ, right, but like everybody was
• 1:37:45
  very positive, like people are having a good time, like I did not.
• 1:37:48
  I did not have to play Sheep the whole weekend, so my baby
• 1:37:54
  was good. Well after a day and a half. That was better than
• 1:37:57
  having to play me. Let's get into day three, since we still I
• 1:38:02
  mean we are an hour and thirty seven minutes in, we still have well
• 1:38:08
  this is the technical final day. Oh yeah, Sunday. This is Sunday
• 1:38:14
  finally. Ewok, you're in, so you're really the only one that has
• 1:38:19
  anything to happen about day three. So tell us about day three? Yeah,
• 1:38:24
  real quick. So top four game. They were best of one.
• 1:38:27
  I ended up going ahead and playing Dorian. Short answer. Dorian played very
• 1:38:32
  clean, played a great game. I did have to mulligan. As I
• 1:38:39
  Mulligan's I drew into my Amber control, which was capture, and so I
• 1:38:44
  immediately put Amber on the board and that was pretty much where the game went
• 1:38:50
  ahead and went Dorian, I did not get I finally hit two of the
• 1:38:56
  B fuddles on the last turn of the second last turn, the game was
• 1:39:00
  over. The third B funnel didn't show up. Dorian had a really nice
• 1:39:04
  double gateway and was the double gateway double life board, yes, double library
• 1:39:13
  access for Nexus. No not for four nerve blasts, but two ghostly hands,
• 1:39:20
  which it damn perfect for me an urchin or two. Yeah, it's
• 1:39:26
  just cool code of stuff. Yeah, I mean, and it was first
• 1:39:29
  print run coda that was definitely able to be seen. Ten creatures in the
• 1:39:32
  whole deck. Yeah, I will tell you the lock for creatures with my
• 1:39:38
  woe was what was there, and it was close. It came down to
• 1:39:42
  two amber. I just did not have a way to be able to go
• 1:39:45
  ahead. My catching release came way too late. The logos board was established
• 1:39:50
  and stuck around for a couple turns, and that is the weakness. So
• 1:39:56
  logos board beat up on me. It was a difference in the game.
• 1:39:58
  He played clean, he deserves the win, and he you know, he
• 1:40:00
  took the next one with another two wins. So then I went to the
• 1:40:04
  third fourth place match and I went to face Ashitaka again and this matchup once
• 1:40:11
  again is not in my favor, but I was able to play clean and
• 1:40:15
  win out and so I took that third place victory again. Great games on
• 1:40:21
  that final day just fell a little bit short, which was sad. But
• 1:40:27
  the deck that I was playing Melon Dragon five dollars, poor poor individual.
• 1:40:33
  No, but there is nothing wrong again. Guy was good when I had
• 1:40:39
  him put in the right places. It played clean into the best of my
• 1:40:42
  ability. But that's why we love KeyForge. I mean, we get a
• 1:40:45
  chance to be able to play, but it's a card game and it's not
• 1:40:47
  always going to come out perfect for each of us. I actually think if
• 1:40:50
  they had stuck with the Meteor system, which I am not in all support
• 1:40:55
  of, I actually think Dorian would have been the eliminated one because Ashataka only
• 1:41:00
  lost to you. Yeah, I only lost to Paul, which were the
• 1:41:05
  two four to Roh's, and Dorian had lost to all a fast Berserker deck
• 1:41:11
  I believe, I don't know exactly, but I don't believe he'd lost to
• 1:41:15
  either of those two decks. So he lost to somebody who had been eliminated.
• 1:41:18
  So I think by strength of schedule he would have been in third and
• 1:41:23
  would have got the media instead of having the chance to go on and win
• 1:41:26
  the event. So I'm not I am not supporting the Meteor I just just
• 1:41:33
  funny how it could have worked out so differently depending on just basically they're one
• 1:41:41
  round where they're like the one round where arbitrary decisions about who goes on is
• 1:41:47
  made. I will say, I think it was really neat to see a
• 1:41:50
  seventeen year old from Italy go ahead and take this down. Someone who's not
• 1:41:55
  even yeah had to get paperwork signed by parents in order to collect the money.
• 1:42:00
  I honestly, he played really clean. He's a good kid, so
• 1:42:05
  it was great to be able to face him and to be able to have
• 1:42:09
  that match. I think it's rigged. Yeah, we rigged. Okay,
• 1:42:14
  so what else? Like the main events ended at noon and then we've only
• 1:42:18
  played Menager until noon, and so this was another place where my defeated status
• 1:42:24
  got worse. Like I was fourteen or fifteen, I don't know where I
• 1:42:30
  was. I had I I think I played one MENAGERI game before I found
• 1:42:35
  or I played Z. He beat me, and I'm like, well,
• 1:42:39
  see how many wins are you even at? And at this point on Sunday
• 1:42:42
  morning, at like nearing ten or something, he's already at twenty four or
• 1:42:46
  five wins, and I'm my count said, I only had like fourteen.
• 1:42:50
  I didn't keep perfect counting I'm like, so I can't because I played all
• 1:42:55
  day yesterday and got nothing. I now can't even compete Menagerie. And I
• 1:43:01
  still feel like they gave fourth place because because I gave him such dirty looks,
• 1:43:06
  they thought that might me. So that's a strategy. So the dirty
• 1:43:13
  dirty looks. See, I need to you need to bring Sheep in to
• 1:43:18
  your class because he is a really good dirty look giver. Let me tell
• 1:43:21
  you, like, if that kid gets out of line, just have Sheep
• 1:43:25
  stare at him for a little bit, right, I will say, shout
• 1:43:30
  out to all of our streamers. It was really cool to be able to
• 1:43:32
  see Arkon and Alliance streams separately. So basically after the top four match,
• 1:43:40
  we then pulled in the Alliance games and then we went ahead and did the
• 1:43:45
  Arkon after all. This one of my biggest frustrations with the streams. They
• 1:43:51
  both did great jobs. However, I hate when they do two streams.
• 1:43:58
  It drives me nuts because watching two streams and you're talking about somebody who watched
• 1:44:03
  a lot of streams this year not being able to attend. It is much
• 1:44:08
  better when you have all the streams going on on one channel, as opposed
• 1:44:14
  to splitting our kind of alliance between two channels, because you watch a lot
• 1:44:18
  of dead air when you have two different streams going on at two different times,
• 1:44:24
  as opposed to kind of bouncing between the two in a in a one
• 1:44:29
  channel stream. Because you also have to remember, sheep, I have to
• 1:44:33
  watch an ad every time I switch streams. Sure, well, what we
• 1:44:40
  all again and our how to fix it? Part of this like the fact
• 1:44:43
  that they didn't have a FFG like even mirror of those stream FFG ha gg
• 1:44:54
  mirror of one of those streams going on at some point, like if you
• 1:44:59
  and it wasn't on the top of their website, it was how'd you even
• 1:45:03
  find the streams? You had to actively like either be in a discord or
• 1:45:09
  like Google search and stuff up or something like Billy, it's just silly.
• 1:45:14
  How would you find this stream if you didn't know it existed? Yeah,
• 1:45:19
  if you weren't very keyed into key forward, or even if you just went
• 1:45:24
  I in world going on this weekend, it was not necessarily easy to find
• 1:45:28
  those streams unless you were already a follower of those people. Kind of Yeah,
• 1:45:35
  this we've talked about before. We need to get more communication out to
• 1:45:42
  the broader community. And then but shout out to Tabletop Royal who put in
• 1:45:45
  a lot of time in streams and it's all Sydney was there and funcinated to
• 1:45:54
  like honestly, I do appreciate that and to be able to murph ran the
• 1:45:59
  Arcanu stream. Thank you for that awesome I did. The only thing I
• 1:46:03
  got was a coworker tried to watch it who doesn't play key Forge and said
• 1:46:10
  the problem was is he could not read the cards on screen, so he
• 1:46:15
  only had the person the person doing the commentary to go by because he couldn't
• 1:46:19
  follow the cards at all because the definition wasn't good enough to read them.
• 1:46:26
  You will never be able to solve that issue. Well, if you need
• 1:46:30
  a way higher deficit, even if you had a higher definition camera, because
• 1:46:38
  of the bandwidth, you will well, no, you will never be even
• 1:46:42
  if I go full four K. Just with how wide everything goes. Key
• 1:46:47
  Ford has become a very wide game. You cannot tighten in close enough eight
• 1:46:53
  k's of thing, buddy, Yeah, even if you go eight kids.
• 1:46:57
  I don't know, but that was the only thing that he couldn't follow it.
• 1:47:00
  I don't watch streams of other games, so I know absolutely nothing.
• 1:47:05
  I was gonna say, watch streams of other games. It's it's it's a
• 1:47:09
  similar thing. You can tighten up a little bit to see enough of the
• 1:47:14
  enough of the image. But if you're not familiar with the card, you're
• 1:47:16
  you're kind of in the same boat. And then, uh so the the
• 1:47:23
  really the highlight of this weekend now that we're into the last day is Ben
• 1:47:29
  the Monkey. Uh yeah, so congrats to Ben who did ride with us.
• 1:47:33
  Our car did pretty damn well. We had third place in ARCon,
• 1:47:38
  first place in Open kind Open ar Kind Open, and a top eight finisher
• 1:47:44
  in the l c Q in first place in complaining, first first place of
• 1:47:50
  planning, and officially officially first loser in ARCon. Thank you. I am
• 1:47:58
  almost good enough first loser in ARCon. So yeah, that's fine. But
• 1:48:03
  they during the speech that on Saturday night, which we kind of skipped,
• 1:48:10
  is they the posters We've all seen them preview for our new custom decks.
• 1:48:15
  They printed a poster for each of the top four decks. Yeah, and
• 1:48:20
  then again poorly kept secret. We figured it out based off of win those
• 1:48:25
  showed up versus when top four happened that they must have printed more. It
• 1:48:30
  turns out they had printed one of the new deck posters for every deck in
• 1:48:34
  the top thirty two, So everybody who got to park on in the world
• 1:48:40
  yep and both formats did get to take a poster home of the deck that
• 1:48:44
  was. I gotta say that was a huge band aid on the giant scab
• 1:48:49
  that I got at this event. But but it wasn't enough ultimately, Like
• 1:48:59
  that is very cool. I'm very happy to have my fraud poster. Sorry
• 1:49:03
  Loka car your posters wrong. Yeah, he he has a he played an
• 1:49:09
  identical twin deck and his deck doesn't say twin on it, and he's very
• 1:49:12
  sad. I will say. I will say I was a little sad.
• 1:49:15
  So I actually made special dragon shields sleeves and I came home Monday and they
• 1:49:24
  finally arrived, so I was off by weekend. But that's not the only
• 1:49:28
  thing we brought that didn't But that's on me. In two Worlds, that's
• 1:49:32
  the only thing that didn't make it to Worlds. Why what was that?
• 1:49:39
  I was there? We were good. Yeah, we're good, all right.
• 1:49:43
  So I might still have the Shredder metal it might be too you didn't
• 1:49:47
  even run Shredder, So what does it matter. Well, we didn't have
• 1:49:50
  a shredder to run Shredder, we didn't have a Shredder medal. You weren't
• 1:49:55
  getting anything out of me on Sunday. I might still if you want to
• 1:49:59
  hear there it is. It's pretty sweet. Maybe I'll just be sureter World
• 1:50:04
  Champion. We'll probably run something soon. I don't win, but we did
• 1:50:13
  go after that, we did have the awards ceremony, which was just giving
• 1:50:18
  out the awards. You guys can watch that over on our YouTube channel over
• 1:50:21
  on streams. I did get to stream it for you, and then we
• 1:50:25
  had the Q and A to meet the ghosties as they were calling it.
• 1:50:30
  Did you only release our talk about that on Patreon? No? No,
• 1:50:33
  I released it fully out so you can listen to that. If you haven't
• 1:50:36
  released If you haven't listened to that, just go one episode back. We're
• 1:50:41
  on the street. It was tough to hear, so I grabbed Sydney and
• 1:50:45
  I grabbed Dan, and it's about one quarter of Dan because me and Sydney
• 1:50:54
  got it. We got it covered. So we went through all the questions
• 1:50:58
  that were asked. Somewhere I'm more more important than others. You know that
• 1:51:03
  question about what pods didn't make it? Nobody cares. That was the best
• 1:51:09
  question that was now let's talk about that one. So uh so I asked
• 1:51:14
  the fun question. No, I mean, we always complaints that, like,
• 1:51:16
  you know, hey, we can't they can't answer real questions. So
• 1:51:20
  I asked a fun question. He still complaints, you know. So I
• 1:51:25
  asked, hey, what was the most interesting pod that didn't make it in
• 1:51:30
  packet or pack packet whatever they're called. Uh and uh so so Luke said,
• 1:51:36
  uh, the rice guy that just said, hey, it was a
• 1:51:39
  dragoggle, like he had some ideas for crazy drigoggle things, but then he
• 1:51:43
  thought twice about all the wacky rulings and how much the judges would hate him.
• 1:51:49
  So they judged, they pulled back. Then nobody was judging Menagerie now.
• 1:51:55
  But like even if you're trying to play it and you're like, well,
• 1:51:57
  wait what happens here and you're we don't know? I mean I only
• 1:52:01
  ever had to call a judge once, and that was because I had heard
• 1:52:05
  sheep saying something about a ruling with exhuming large creatures. So I wanted to
• 1:52:12
  make sure I got it right. Why are we blaming on me? Well,
• 1:52:17
  okay, because you had said it did work. And then with the
• 1:52:19
  new rules update, there was a question on hold, can you let me
• 1:52:25
  finish what I'm about to say before you tell me I'm wrong? Children to
• 1:52:29
  your own rooms, thank you. So sheep in the car didn't say something
• 1:52:32
  that there was a change, and there was a question about like exhuming gigantic
• 1:52:38
  creatures. So when it came down to it, actually this actually happened because
• 1:52:43
  I had an opportunity to be our guys to disill us. Both halves are
• 1:52:46
  in the discard pile, right, So I was like, I heard this
• 1:52:51
  was switched. Yatta, yatta. I'm not one hundred percent sure because it
• 1:52:56
  was all rumor and conjecture. So I grabbed both Early and Luke. It
• 1:53:00
  was all misunderstanding. You mean it was because I grabbed both. I grabbed
• 1:53:04
  Josh Hurley and Luke. I think we even had a Marcus. I mean,
• 1:53:08
  I don't remember, because I was like, with the new rules change,
• 1:53:12
  I heard something had changed. I just want to make sure we play
• 1:53:14
  it correctly. And I was told it was okay. That on Tuesday,
• 1:53:18
  I was told it was not okay. So I was like, okay,
• 1:53:20
  So the rules still. So what you're telling me is the rule did not
• 1:53:25
  change and it stayed the same. Okay, good to know. That's all
• 1:53:30
  I wanted to Yeah, so it I you were saying something in the car
• 1:53:35
  that you heard this be your guys was gonna let you play gigantic, so
• 1:53:40
  the thing, and I said, nothing of the If that's the case,
• 1:53:44
  eg zoom is going to have to change, is what I said. Not
• 1:53:47
  eg Zoom has changed. I said eg zoom will have to change if that's
• 1:53:50
  how works, because that's not how it had been working. But like many
• 1:53:57
  rules in key Forge, will be evaluating over the next four to six weeks,
• 1:54:02
  they're open to interpretation. You have to read three FAQs for cards that
• 1:54:08
  have nothing to do with the card you're reading too, say this is similar,
• 1:54:13
  so I'm going to use this rule as time. But when you say
• 1:54:15
  it's similar to this, but we're not using it, you're told you're dumb
• 1:54:17
  for suggesting that you're not actually told you're dumb. Nobody's ever actually said you're
• 1:54:23
  dumb. That's not true. You tell me I'm dumb all the time.
• 1:54:25
  Yes, okay, I have said you are dumb. Yes, okay,
• 1:54:30
  okay, yeah, ok yes, I am a jerk. I got it,
• 1:54:33
  say you're all dumb. There you go, thank you, But you
• 1:54:39
  could listen to the episode on on the Q and A section. We did
• 1:54:44
  just just one episode before this, so if you really want to go into
• 1:54:49
  it, I don't think any great revelations were put out there. No nobody
• 1:54:57
  asked them about that. I said, nobody asked about seal and when we're
• 1:55:00
  gonna get Yeah, you didn't cover it in the rehash that I can recall,
• 1:55:11
  but I'm pretty they already covered that. I think Shield was asked about
• 1:55:15
  and they said they're going to be. They're going to be again evaluating over
• 1:55:21
  sixty eight weeks, four to six weeks, six eight weeks, whatever it
• 1:55:26
  was, to see what was going on. So yeah, So coming out
• 1:55:29
  of this event, I'm in the ultimately not satisfied with how world's played out
• 1:55:38
  for me personally, nor how the format has developed. We got absolutely no
• 1:55:45
  news about when will have actual o P to us outside of they'll be able
• 1:55:54
  to sign up next month and stuff might happen, but there's there there's nothing.
• 1:56:00
  There's no actual fix. There's no like, here's the kids, here's
• 1:56:02
  what we're doing. Well, hold on, maybe maybe we get a storyline
• 1:56:06
  which is want mixed. Sure, uh so they well know we're supposed to
• 1:56:12
  talk about the thing, but we got a photocopy of twenty twenty two.
• 1:56:15
  There wasn't even a single word about the one thing I actually did get to
• 1:56:19
  do, which is fault to her. It's not not even that like they
• 1:56:21
  said, delete that slide. We'll see if they notice. There's nothing so
• 1:56:28
  leaving the end of Worlds, I have absolutely nothing to do to look forward
• 1:56:34
  to. I have no I mean, like, the only reason I'm playing
• 1:56:39
  is the same reason that made us through the pandemic of garbage, is that
• 1:56:44
  the people I play with are awesome and that that will carry me pretty far
• 1:56:50
  in this game. But that's the starting ship. I saved your room in
• 1:57:00
  my boat. Yeah here, I'm about to get in the Wookie boat.
• 1:57:03
  It's terrible. I'm I'm not happy I kept it for you. I just
• 1:57:10
  like GG has insistently improved. I am hopeful that they not go ahead and
• 1:57:18
  give us specifics because we hammered them last year. And we'll hear about it
• 1:57:23
  soon. That is my home. We got in that car and we went
• 1:57:27
  what are we doing next week? And everybody's like who gives a ship.
• 1:57:30
  There's nothing, there's well no, I think everybody that's not true. Essentially,
• 1:57:36
  we're just like we're playing for nothing. We don't have the store doesn't
• 1:57:44
  have product, we don't have prizes, we have nothing to get new players.
• 1:57:47
  We're not practicing or looking forward to the next event. We've got nothing
• 1:57:55
  to do right now. We've got a game found. So I just gave
• 1:57:58
  him more money for dak that like usual, I don't know what I'm doing
• 1:58:02
  with them. Please forgive my sheep. He does love the community and he
• 1:58:08
  loves this game. You may not know it from this talk, but he
• 1:58:11
  is there and he loves We all do. But I am with Sheep.
• 1:58:15
  There are there are drastic changes that need to happen. Things do need to
• 1:58:21
  change, and they are quite big, and I think, for fear of
• 1:58:27
  upsetting some of the community members, none of those changes are going to be
• 1:58:30
  made. Sheep thinks some of my ideas are dumb. I don't believe they
• 1:58:34
  are. But that's a difference of opinion, and that's that's all right.
• 1:58:38
  You think my ideas are dumb, we get to think that, and that's
• 1:58:41
  fine, right, Like it's a difference of opinion. I think it's difference
• 1:58:45
  of opinion. I think they're just both dumb. Well maybe and again a
• 1:58:48
  difference of opinions. It's just we're both a lot bigger than you. Well,
• 1:58:55
  we'll split you like a like a wishbone, but I mean threatening my
• 1:59:00
  Southerly leave him alone, but we'll like there their ideas that I think weren't
• 1:59:12
  talks, and whether they happen or not, who knows. Hopefully Q one,
• 1:59:17
  after the holidays are all said and done, we can move forward.
• 1:59:20
  We have things to play for again. Hopefully by that time we have some
• 1:59:25
  sort of schedule we can look forward to again. And it's just it's gonna
• 1:59:30
  be a wait and see and it sucks because, yes, mini hiatus.
• 1:59:34
  Last year we left KFC with all sorts of excitement. You can literally go
• 1:59:41
  back three hundred and sixty five days ago listen to that episode and you would
• 1:59:44
  hear a very excited cast. This year is a little different. This year.
• 1:59:49
  This year we learned to keep our expectations a fair bit lower. YEP,
• 1:59:59
  and it is what it at this point. Now. Hopefully it comes
• 2:00:00
  out sooner rather than later, because I think every day that goes by that
• 2:00:04
  we don't have information that we don't know what's going on, that we're all
• 2:00:09
  sitting here confused. The people such as Sheep and myself go why do I
• 2:00:14
  still play this? And eventually those bonds that we have with people, and
• 2:00:18
  obviously me and Sheep run a podcast or bonds are a little different. But
• 2:00:23
  for those people who are just playing for funzies, YadA, YadA, so
• 2:00:26
  on and so forth might not be here. You already had a downgrade in
• 2:00:30
  a year where you had a set drop to me ewalk, you can paint
• 2:00:38
  it with whatever brightly colored brush you want. That's not good. You had
• 2:00:44
  a set drop this year and you had less You had the opportunity for more
• 2:00:47
  people show up to show up because there was not flight restrictions. There was
• 2:00:53
  not anything really of any you know, twenty twenty two we were still kind
• 2:00:58
  of in pandemic protocols. Ish, Wow, there are no I said,
• 2:01:02
  there was no. There was between last year and this how many overseas people
• 2:01:06
  do we have? Last year? Three four four? This year we had
• 2:01:12
  a bunch of people travel from overseas and there was significantly less US players there.
• 2:01:18
  You saw people that are content creators that did not come. Well,
• 2:01:26
  there is that but also which you are not taking into account well as many
• 2:01:30
  of them are closer to your boat, which is they cannot neither afford nor
• 2:01:35
  have the days off. We did see most of those people because we a
• 2:01:42
  lot of people, and maybe they released the numbers at some point, unique
• 2:01:46
  individuals across Vault tours actually unique number of players because we did see a lot
• 2:01:53
  of those people earlier and they're like, yeah, I spent my key Forde
• 2:01:59
  discretionary travel funds on this because they're only able to do one. Most people,
• 2:02:03
  it turns out most people aren't able to go to four or five six
• 2:02:08
  major events in a year. So I don't actually know how much worse the
• 2:02:13
  numbers are because if all, if most of the players that were there just
• 2:02:15
  chose to go to their local Vault tour instead of splurging even more money to
• 2:02:21
  go to this kind of makes sense, especially when was this more expensive than
• 2:02:26
  a local vault tour depending on Yeah, definitely if you live locally, that's
• 2:02:31
  way cheaper than going together. Yeah, if you live locally. But I
• 2:02:34
  don't think a ton of people were local. I mean there was, I
• 2:02:38
  mean Roseville's the most of Seattle. Well, no, nothing of us.
• 2:02:43
  This is our local. Now, most of Seattle was, I mean,
• 2:02:46
  most of the people at Seattle were locals. There was not a ton of
• 2:02:50
  fly ins. Actually for that Texas was full of locals. Philly was full
• 2:02:56
  of locals. Actually the Philly guys were some of the bigger travelers for the
• 2:03:00
  year. Yeah, man, we came out so uh yeah, it's it's
• 2:03:06
  hard to say the numbers it is. It is down. It is down
• 2:03:11
  significantly, especially when you consider one third of the room was internationals that were
• 2:03:17
  not there last year. But the spread across the thing. Saying too much
• 2:03:23
  out of that is is the thing, especially when as we know talking to
• 2:03:28
  people, half the people didn't even understand what the open was. And the
• 2:03:32
  open wasn't Vault Tour caliber. So like if if you knew you weren't playing
• 2:03:38
  in Worlds and you could choose to go to a Vault or go play in
• 2:03:42
  the open, like the Vault's the better choice. So I can understand why
• 2:03:49
  people who were not competing in Worlds kind of chose to skip this, especially
• 2:03:55
  when there wasn't you know, like this wasn't announced when people were playing Vault
• 2:04:00
  was either really like we knew what weekend it was, but nobody knew what
• 2:04:03
  was going on, so like if you had to pick, you had to
• 2:04:05
  pick the Vote Tour because you didn't know what this was. You didn't know
• 2:04:10
  for certain Grim Reminders was going to be here. Although anybody who doesn't expect
• 2:04:15
  whatever comes after Amber Skies will be at KFC next year, right, like
• 2:04:19
  you have to expect it. Now. Did we have two events last year?
• 2:04:25
  We had a we had sealed and then standard, Right, there was
• 2:04:30
  this event and then that you could either play an ARCon or Alliance. Yeah,
• 2:04:33
  and actually there was a sealed of both formats too, right. The
• 2:04:44
  I had fun at the event. I was glad to more than happy to
• 2:04:46
  have gone, even though I can only get there late and missed the LCQ.
• 2:04:51
  Had a lot of fun and I was able to hang out with you
• 2:04:57
  guys and the place we good keyboards. I think I actually would have had
• 2:05:00
  more fun had I done worse in in the world got knocked out more quickly.
• 2:05:09
  If I'd just been knocked out early, I'd just been like, well
• 2:05:12
  it didn't last year was like like we did talk about this like a more
• 2:05:18
  out of time really, but but Nova went oh too, which is a
• 2:05:21
  huge surprise. I mean a lot of people picked Nova Faith as well,
• 2:05:27
  and like that is the fact that you expected to stack up some wins because
• 2:05:30
  it is so dominant against certain things. Over two hundred people last year for
• 2:05:36
  KFC, Yeah, we know we were there. I understand, I just
• 2:05:42
  wanted to didn't. It doesn't give a precise number. It just says over
• 2:05:45
  two hundred people. And then this year, well this so it says nearly
• 2:05:50
  two hundred people. Okay, well we know it was done. Either way,
• 2:06:00
  it is right one of them, yes, right, But that's gonna
• 2:06:04
  do it first this week again, if you wanted to hear the Q and
• 2:06:09
  A questions, you can go just one episode back. Next week is Thanksgiving,
• 2:06:15
  believe that or not. Already it's here, so I'm assuming we will
• 2:06:21
  figure something out for either a Wednesday episode or a Friday episode. I'm not
• 2:06:28
  sure as to which, because I totally forgot next week was Thanksgiving because it's
• 2:06:32
  here already and I wasn't prepared. And we'll kind of go more into where
• 2:06:40
  where we'll go into more of where we we look towards the future. At
• 2:06:45
  that point, just looking over, I just saw something pop in. Oh
• 2:06:51
  not anyways, but thank you all for joining us. We'll see y'all next
• 2:06:56
  week. Happy foraging everyone, May the Forge be with you. Thanks for
• 2:07:00
  great your family naps. I will have a pass the Johnson'll never tell me.
• 2:07:08
  I know you better mountin not never brost want to chance to stump Bunting
• 2:07:15
  from napping. I don't have that word. That's about something I'm gonna don't
• 2:07:18
  dumping nothing you know on podcasts can busy way from Baptor. I won't lay
• 2:07:26
  with you that well. You know who's on the job, and I dare
• 2:07:42
  Recty tell him do this for this samp is it just be Chuckie you in
• 2:07:48
  mind as top D. I think Racy tell you that before this Cantras producky