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Episode 11: IMAX Screens, Troubled Teens and Gay Sheep · Looking Into

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Talking about it was down, it was in fact down on 3rd and
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Washington, though as I say that I'm like was it own it?
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No, I didn't get pictures. Yeah.
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I know you said to. I'm so excited.
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This is the food truck that serves the thing that you said
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reminded you of your favorite Taco Bell meal.
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Yeah, it was at the Baja Gordita from like, I don't know, 2005 or
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something like that. It's so great.
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What a time. You know, it was a golden age of
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fast food the, the early aughts. And this food truck, it's, it's
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just a chicken euro. That's it.
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It's just a chicken euro. It's really fucking good.
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It's at this food truck right on the corner of SW 3rd and
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Washington. Yeah, downtown.
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And it is so good. So but the whole that whole food
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truck like wrote the block of food trucks and there.
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And I'll tell you something, there were some really hot guys
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working at those food trucks that night.
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And maybe it was just me, maybe I was a little thirsty, but.
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I mean, thirsty for a snack and like meal and a shell?
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Baby, let's go. Yeah, I was like you could feed
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me and and did. I I can't believe that you got
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the location correctly when you were remembering it.
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That's wild. That's wild to me.
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And that, that I guess the important things really stick.
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They stick in your brain, don't they?
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I have a sickening memory. Actually, it's, it's weird, like
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'cause sometimes I can remember nothing, but the way that I will
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remember the detail if you've wronged me ever.
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Yeah, I, I remember every single detail of that conversation.
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And I promise I will pull those receipts up, Mama, and I will.
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I will win the argument, of course, and I'll win it again
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and again and again if we ever need to rehash it.
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Not you and I of. Course, I was going to say, so
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when you say things like that, it always makes me think, uh oh,
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like have I wronged him? And and it makes me feel so
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nervous. I mean, I think that at this
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point in, in our friendship, I would feel secure in our
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dynamic. But like, man, when you say
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things like that, it does make me very mindful of how I
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navigate our dynamic and our relationship.
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I'm like, not going to screw this up.
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He says don't fuck me. Have fun.
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Breakfast. Yeah, have fun, enjoy it.
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Life is I feel like also I just, I'm down for a little, a little
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argument, like a little back and forth.
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But you know, I to my friends and you can ask any, I mean, you
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are one of my greatest friends, but like you can ask any of my
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other friends, anyone who's been through conflict with me and
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come out on the other side. I I'll engage heavily, but like,
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I am reasonable, like I'm here to to find solution in the
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conflict. I'm not just here to burn
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bridges, but I will burn them. Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Anyway. Enough about me.
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OK, on that note, let's get started.
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Hello listeners, we are so glad that you're here.
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You're listening to Looking Into, which is a podcast where
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two friends talk about pop culture, queer culture, and the
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You can listen to something else, but we're glad that you're
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here. That's so fun.
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OK, a question because the food truck was circling back to a
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previous conversation that we had.
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And in that conversation, we were talking about things that
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we appreciated about America. And I mentioned Trader Joe's and
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thought, I said. I made a statement that Trader
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Joe's was limited to the Northwest.
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Well, I don't think is that true.
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It's definitely not true, and I found out because one of our
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dedicated listeners sent me screenshots from the Trader
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Joe's website listing out all of the many states where Trader
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Joe's is located. Let's go, dedicated listener.
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You better get us together. Yeah.
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So thank you to that dedicated listener.
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You know who you are and I'm grateful for you.
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But Caleb, I have to ask you, how do you feel about listeners
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keeping us accurate? Because I think it's just.
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Like I'm so thankful and also am I?
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Am I really thankful? I love it.
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Correction. I actually love, especially if
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they're sending you the messages.
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No, no, no, I think it's great. Actually.
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I think it's very fierce. It doesn't mean that I've like
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I'm always going to agree, but I do appreciate accuracy.
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OK, unless it does, unless it doesn't fit my world view, in
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which case it's not true. That's.
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Not true. Well, that statement you're
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making is just absolutely false. OK, we do love an echo chamber,
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but I am going to. Say.
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The official stance of this podcast is if you're secure
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enough in our relationship to provide us with corrections and
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help us increase our accuracy. We do care about the things that
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we say and we do want to be mindful of how they come across.
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But that's not an invitation. Open doors for like a flood of
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feedback like the one who sent me the feedback.
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She knows who she is and she's allowed.
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She's allowed. So thank you to our unofficial
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research assistant, but unless you have been bestowed with that
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title, it's really just reserved to Shy and Minna and cast at
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this point. Those people are allowed, OK?
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Nobody else gives us people. Wait, but you can.
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Hey, look, engagement is engagement and engagement is
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good. So you can sound off in the
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e-mail or the comments or whatever and tell us how much
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you love us. That's great.
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Yes, Oh my gosh. And if you're listening to us on
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Spotify, you should probably give us a little rating right
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now and that rating will be 4 stars or higher.
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I mean, I would say 5 because. I mean, how many stars can they
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put on? I think they can do 5, so they
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should. Do it and five stars are higher.
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Just sleep with the five stars. Why do less?
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I could get off onto a tangent on this, by the way.
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OK, but I'll tangent. Wait, wait.
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Because I feel like there's room for improvement and I want
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honest feedback. But I guess maybe I don't if I'm
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encouraging people to promote us, I want them to just like
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promote us. Is that?
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I don't know, babe. This is not my industry.
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Are we? Are we?
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We're just you know what? Leave a five star.
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Five stars are great. Caleb says.
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Caleb says OK. And Speaking of, Caleb says,
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hey, we're gonna introduce a new format tonight.
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We're gonna try it out. May or may not work, but we're
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gonna say it's gonna work. We're gonna believe.
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Believe we're gonna work that's. For sure, I always work.
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OK, so Caleb was very busy this last weekend with Portland Pride
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birthing a child, as he likes to put it, yes.
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One of my another, another of my many children.
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Yes, the twin that has been like just holding on in your just
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finally decided to come out. Sounds like the Pride Festival
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was a success. It was, it was fabulous.
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So. Fun.
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Yeah, I loved that, loved it, loved that so much.
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But he's been very, very busy and hasn't had time to look into
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anything. So I proposed something else,
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which was. I have looked into a number of
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things and what we're gonna do is, do you want it?
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Caleb says. Caleb responds.
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Caleb replies. Caleb reacts.
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Like what? How do you want to title this
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segment? Caleb.
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Learns Caleb reacts. Yeah.
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That was a deep breath. Are you bracing yourself for
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this? I'm not going to quiz you on it
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like. No, no, I'm, I'm.
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I am locked in. I'm ready to go.
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I did my skin care. As you can see.
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I am glowing. You are glowing gorgeous.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Thank you. OK, and unless you've been
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studying our Shared Notes app, you won't know what these topics
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are. So it's going to come as a
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surprise to him and we're just going to see how this goes.
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I have seen the updates, I've seen the notifications on the
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shared notes app, but I have not looked at them.
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OK, well let's get right into it.
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I have a number of topics, let me see how many.
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I'm scrolling through the notes that I made on my computer
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because this girl got her shit together.
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Yeah, this is already a great segment.
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I love it. OK, I think we're going to go
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through 6 topics. OK.
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Let's go. OK, First off, I want to go
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through a little box office review because as you know, the
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Odyssey dropped this weekend. It is definitely number one in
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the box office by miles and miles and miles.
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It earned 123.5 million domestically, 264,000,000
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globally, OK, the next closest. Is more internationally than.
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Yeah, like twice, almost twice as much, more than twice as much
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mass. We're not.
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This is not mass. OK, 123.5 million.
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The second film was Moana, which we have already determined that
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the live action remakes are not necessary and she came in at
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17.9 million. So this is a bit of a jump like.
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That is. 100 million, OK. What I want to talk about and
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Caleb, what I'm really interested in hearing your
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opinion on is this online discussion that's taking place
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around the format in which the Odyssey was filmed.
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So if you have not listeners been following this, Christopher
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Nolan, the director of The Odyssey, filmed this massive
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project specifically for IMAX, which means all the primary
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cinematic and cinematography choices that were made were
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based on an IMAX format. If you know film ratios, IMAX
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like it, OK. Basically the picture is more
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like a square than a horizontal rectangle.
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And so when the the film gets cropped for a standard film
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screen, you see a very, very different composition in the
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visual than what the cinematographer and the director
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filmed it for. So the conversation that's come
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up is that the people have lots of opinions about this because
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there are only 41 screens in the world that are formatted
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specifically for the IMAX 70mm size.
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And so the people have opinions about the fact that the line
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that has stuck out the most on social media is poor people are
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literally seeing less. OK, so I'm just going to give
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you that intro because I have thoughts with that information.
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I'm curious what all of your thoughts are.
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Well, I don't enjoy IMAX really at all.
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For whatever reason. I went and I saw Dune 2IN IMAX.
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I think I saw an Avatar movie in IMAX.
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I don't enjoy it. I don't know what it is.
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I don't need that. I don't need to see all of that,
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all that extra. I just want to see a what is it
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a square? Is that what it is?
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No, it's like a rectangle. OK, I just want to see the
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regular dagular fucking movie. I'm maybe it's 'cause I grew up
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poor. Maybe it's 'cause I grew up when
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that's the only option that there were for movies or that
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there was for movies. And yeah, I don't know.
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I don't care for IMAX personally.
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Are you offended by his choice to film it specifically for
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IMAX? Do you feel like you're getting
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second best? Well, I think that there's a lot
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of elitism in Hollywood. I think that as the politically,
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I think as we like start to shift away from the Hollywood
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for a while was doing a whole lot of performance for
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performative wokeness and they still are.
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But I think that it's becoming less and less required and it's
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becoming more cool to just be vapid and elitist and whatever
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in Hollywood as it's always been.
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So I don't feel like I care if I'm seeing less of the movie.
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But it doesn't surprise me that like a a massive Hollywood
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studio. And is it Christopher Nolan that
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makes all the choices, or is it the studio?
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I I don't know. 'Cause his name's on it,
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obviously. But is he taking the hit for
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choices that are actually being made by the studio?
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Because I have a feeling he's. I mean, he's picking the film,
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that format, He's picking his cinematographer.
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Like, I think that's the studio has to approve, but it's his
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film. Sure.
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Yeah, Yeah. Well, it does sound elitist.
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And if there's, I mean, there's an accessibility thing there
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right away. If there's like if there's only
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41 theaters where this movie can be, can be viewed at the in the
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format in which it was chose, like filmed.
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Yeah, there's no way for the majority of human beings who are
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moviegoers to go and see this film in its proper format.
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So, yeah, people are seeing less.
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I think more than just poor people are seeing less.
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But yeah, people without the amount of time and which it does
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kind of come down to poor people, people who are working
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more right, like are going to have less opportunity to see the
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movie. But movies are fucking expensive
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anyway. So it's like, yeah, what are
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your thoughts? OK, I'm glad you asked because I
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was going to tell you anyway. Yeah, I want to know.
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Honestly, it doesn't really bother me that much and I think
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that there's like a click bait reality to the the number 41
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because 41 refers specifically to IMAX 70mm, which is there's
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very, very few of those theaters.
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But there are way more options than just IMAX and standard.
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Like I there are more than there are 8 screens in the greater
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Seattle area that give a different aspect ratio that's
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closer to IMAX. There are 7 in the LA area.
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So like just looking at those two cities of Seattle and LA,
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which were the only ones I was able to find online 'cause I'm
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not a research assistant, I'm just me.
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But that number, right there is 15 screens that are more than
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standard. So just that #41 internationally
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is it's, it's a misleading number.
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There are lots of places where you can see this film.
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Yes, you there are lots of places where you can see this
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film and get closer to his original vision.
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There are also other benefits to shooting on film.
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So like IMAX is film which provides a different quality to
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the actual picture that will translate in a lot of ways to
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the standard screen. It impacts like that the level
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of definition. So the crispness, the clarity of
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the of the image as well as like the color saturation, like
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you're still getting the benefits of IMAX even if you're
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not in the same format. And also maybe this is part like
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I so I we famously grew up in the blockbuster era and we.
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We sure did when you could. Rent movies.
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You could rent movies in or buy in full screen and wide screen.
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And a lot of people chose full screen because they wanted to
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see it on their whole picture. Well, TV's historically have
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been more square shaped. So if you're watching a film on
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full screen versus wide screen, white screen being where you get
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the more horizontal box shape and you've got the black lines
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at the top and the bottom. A lot of people were bothered by
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that because they're like, I'm not seeing the full picture.
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I wanted to take up my whole screen.
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When you opted into full screen it, the film had to crop out the
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images that were on the side, so you still got an altered picture
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and nobody complained about that shit.
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They were just like, this is what I want 'cause I want it to
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fill my screen. So for me, it just feels kind of
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like the reverse where it's like, it's still, it's still
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movie. It's still gonna be gorgeous no
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matter what format you watch it in.
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And also like, I don't know, he's top of his.
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Like when you said elite, like this man is an artist.
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He is an elite filmmaker. And if you I had the opportunity
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to do a project of this magnitude of such a historical
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piece of fiction and with this like once in a generation
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ensemble cast, like I think do it however the fuck you want to
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do it like. I agree.
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Do the project the way you want to do it.
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Like, I have never seen the Mona Lisa in person.
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I have never. There are many, many, many
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famous works of art. No, I feel like it would be let
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down. But there are many famous works
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of art that none of us will ever see in person.
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And like, does is my life suffering because I saw it in
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like, print or I saw a picture of it online?
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Like you can still have an artistic experience even if
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you're not seeing the brush strokes and the texture of the
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oil on the canvas, you know, like, I just don't feel like it
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needs to be that different. Those are my thoughts.
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Yeah, I agree with you. And I think it's important to
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note that we're probably two people who can hold 2 truths at
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once. And while I'm like, yeah, I'm
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Hollywood is elitist and as they, you know, as they are, I'm
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also like, fucking fine. It is.
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You're absolutely right. Like it is his project.
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He can do whatever the fuck he wants with it.
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Yeah, I don't care. I'm not going to go see it at
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IMAX, most likely. I saw Wicked famously in
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standard IMAX and 3D, and at the end of the day I just liked it
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in standard. I saw it again in standard.
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I was like, yeah, that's the one I want.
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I. I don't know who you're famous
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to in this context because I was unaware of that story.
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Well, you saw Wicked four times. I saw wicked like 8 times.
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Matthew. And I saw it so many times.
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Is that your record? For how many?
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Yeah. Like.
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Probably number of film theater visits.
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OK, my record is 4 really. And it was.
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It was for Napoleon Dynamite in 2004.
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That's so funny. That's so funny.
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I think, yeah, I think probably Wicked was the most times I've
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ever gone to at the UNICEF movie.
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The first half. The first half for sure.
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I saw the second. Half and that was that.
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Was more than enough. Yeah, good choices.
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Yeah, OK. I do have cult application
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questions. Do you want them all at the end
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after we finish these topics or do you want to like end each
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topic with a cult application? Oh my God, I want them at the
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end. Rapid, rapid fire.
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As much as we can, yeah. OK, great.
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We'll do that. All right.
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Well, I feel like we've not solved that, but we've at least
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discussed it that. There's something you have.
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Yeah. Artists have absolute autonomy
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over the art they create. How about that?
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And so if you don't like it, actually this is something I
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want to say. If you don't like the art that
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the artist is creating, go make your own fucking art.
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If you don't like the way a business is being run, go run
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your own business. If you don't like the way
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someone's deciding to to do whatever it is that they do,
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that they have autonomy and agency over, then go do it
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better, better than they do. That's what I have to say about
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that. Yeah, it's not.
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It's not for that. OK, well, in our next topic, the
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person did just that. They saw something that was
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wrong and said, I want to fix that.
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We're going to talk about Paris Hilton and the Provo Canyon
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School. Are you familiar with Paris and
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the PCs? I'm familiar with Paris.
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I don't know about this school. OK, did you watch her
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documentary that came out? This is Paris?
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It came out in 2020. No.
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Well, and if I did, I don't remember it.
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You don't remember it. I mean, you were doing a lot of
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drugs in 2020, right? That's what we I was.
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Doing a lot of drugs and drinking a lot of alcohol.
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Yeah. So we we've talked about this.
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This is Canon. OK, so Paris Hilton, hotel
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heiress, we were alive in the 90s when she was on Simple Life
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or Simple Plan. She had this very public persona
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that was like, that's hot and like just being a rich dumb
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blonde. That was the persona that she
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put up. So in 2020, she released a
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documentary that shows that was very much a persona, a
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performance like personality that she was putting on.
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But what also was revealed in that documentary is her
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experience as a quote troubled teen who was sent to a reform
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school or a residential therapeutic institution.
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I don't know. I'm putting quotes around all of
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that. If you can't hear it in the way
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that I'm speaking. The school she specific, she
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spent about a year in the Provo Canyon School, which was this
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reformatory school in Utah in the late 1990s.
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I did watch this. And you did watch this.
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OK. So, yeah, you don't need me to
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tell you that there was lots and lots of abuse that she suffered
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while she was in that school, OK?
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So since then, she has done a lot of work to try to shut down,
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to shed light on these really, really horrific abusive
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practices that happen in a lot of these institutions.
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She's done testimony and legislation.
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She's talked to Congress and a lot of elected officials.
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She's helped push through federal legislation to increase
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oversight and transparency. And a big thing happened
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recently, like this month, which was that the Utah Department of
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Health and Human Services permanently shut down the
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school, the provoke Union School, and they have to cease
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all operations on their two locations by August 6th.
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OK, so I, yeah, I know a huge success and what a triumph to to
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survive abuse like that and then to use your power to go and
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change the system for other people moving forward.
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Like, because it's more than just this one school.
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Like the work that she's done to get legislation in place will
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hopefully create situations where these institutions are
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more strictly regulated moving forward and where this type of
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thing cannot happen. Now, this type of thing will
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continue to happen because people do terrible things.
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But still, this was a huge victory.
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And so I'm curious your thoughts on Paris Hilton as a celebrity
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in general and her ability to represent 2 very, very different
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personalities in the public eye. So we'll start there.
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Well, Paris Hilton is an icon. An absolute icon, legend, star.
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She is everything she and also a gay icon, massive proponent or
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yeah for gay rights and faggotry which is so important.
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I love Paris and always have. I'm, I'm getting that vibe from
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you that feels like, I mean, I'm picking up what you're putting
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down. I feel wigs love.
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Big sleigh for Paris and and she's a DJ and a pop star and an
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activist. And you know, it's just so
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fierce to see the girlies out there changing the world.
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She reminds me of Jane Fonda in some ways, in the way that,
23:51
like, Jane Fonda was so in her early acting career, so heavily
23:56
sexualized as, like, the bombshell character.
23:59
And she's like one of the most iconic protesters and advocate
24:03
like, yeah, that we've seen. She'll get out there and
24:07
advocate for sure. Yeah, absolutely.
24:11
What about the whole schools for troubled teens?
24:16
It's interesting because I think, I don't know if it was
24:18
this documentary, the one with Paris, but there was another
24:22
documentary about one of these schools.
24:24
And it was more of just like a group of people who in their
24:33
teens had been basically kidnapped by people that their
24:38
parents had hired, that had convinced their parents to hire
24:41
them. And whatever the scam is
24:44
kidnapped and taken to these schools.
24:45
And they had no power. And even the parents, like,
24:49
really couldn't get them out. And they thought, like, the
24:52
parents are interviewing and saying, like, I thought I was
24:54
doing what was best for my kids. Like, these people had convinced
24:57
me that it was going to help them.
24:59
And I had no idea the sort of like, horrible things they were
25:02
doing to them in the schools. I went to high school and was
25:08
really good friends with the girl in high school who this
25:10
happened to really. And it and as I was watching, I
25:14
was like, holy shit, this is what happened to her.
25:18
And I remember she was just like gone one day and then like
25:24
months later or whatever, she came back and she was very and
25:28
she talked about it and like how scary it was.
25:31
And but I also, she like, kind of brushed it off like, you
25:34
know, we all deal with trauma in different ways, but like, really
25:38
traumatizing. And so of course, as I was
25:40
watching the documentary, I ran to Facebook and was like, I got
25:44
to see if she's talking about this.
25:46
Yeah. And she was, she was posting
25:48
about it. And it's, I don't know if it was
25:50
the same school that they were talking about on the
25:54
documentary. And I don't know if that's the
25:56
same school. Paris was talking about it, but
25:57
it was in Utah. And it's great to hear that
26:01
these these schools, these like prisons for children are being
26:08
shut down because it is all shade to the parents, because I
26:16
understand that you feel like you were doing the right thing
26:19
for your kids. And yeah, I get it.
26:21
That's fine. Well, you weren't.
26:26
And that's, you know, I'm like, if you're going to, if maybe
26:31
perhaps if we're going to have kids, we should just like lock
26:35
in and take care of those kids, even if they're troubled, you
26:41
know, engage in the the required work that it takes to help those
26:48
troubled kids through those troubled times.
26:51
Yeah, you know, I take issue. I mean, yes, I agree.
26:54
I do think that there's so much ownership on parents to do some
27:00
research before you send your kid away something.
27:04
But I I don't know, I take issue with the word troubled.
27:08
Yeah. Yeah.
27:08
Yeah, yeah, totally. What, what does that even mean,
27:11
to label somebody as a troubled teen?
27:13
I just feel like, to me, that sounds like, oh, they're not
27:16
fitting the social expectations that you have of that specific
27:18
environment. Who gets to determine what is
27:21
right in that situation? Who gets to determine or qualify
27:24
somebody as troubled like that just feels?
27:26
Do you think I was troubled? I think You Were Trouble.
27:31
I mean, I tattooed it on my body.
27:33
So yeah, I think you're probably right.
27:37
I can't answer that for you. Do you think you were troubled?
27:41
Absolutely. If they could have came and
27:43
kidnapped me, they would have. I don't think they could have
27:45
gotten me. I don't think so.
27:47
And you probably would have burned that shit down from the
27:49
inside. Yeah, the warden or something.
27:51
Man, it would have a very different documentary.
27:53
All of the above, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't know.
27:57
I. Agree with you, I think it's
27:59
lazy. It's lazy use of alliteration to
28:05
to do some funny. Yeah, I'm.
28:08
Like. They're teenagers.
28:09
Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And, and hear me when I say we
28:14
need more mental health options for teens.
28:16
Like there needs to be more steps of levels of support
28:22
between like outpatient counseling and an inpatient
28:25
psychiatric unit. Like there has to be more
28:27
outpatient or intensive outpatient and inpatient options
28:31
that are a step between or a step down, like a step between
28:36
once a week talking to a counselor and being locked into
28:38
a hospital. Like there's, we all need more
28:42
options to be able to meet us where we're at.
28:43
But I do think that adults making a decision based on their
28:47
expectations of what health looks like and making that
28:50
decision for somebody else who has their own autonomy and their
28:53
own identity and ideas is, is really, really dangerous.
28:57
And we know that power corrupts. We know that when you have an
28:59
organization in a system that you put in place like that,
29:03
people are not going to necessarily be responsible with
29:06
what's been entrusted to them without full transparency.
29:09
So I would say like as a rule, if you're engaging in any sort
29:12
of organization that's not being very, very clear and transparent
29:18
in what is happening behind the closed doors, like that's a
29:22
massive red flag. Run, run, run, run, run if you
29:25
can. Yeah, yeah, right.
29:27
And I think in this capitalist society that we live in, it's I
29:31
found myself less and less trusting of not of mental health
29:35
services, but of any situation that is like benefiting if
29:44
there's no financial benefit to a cure, you know, a cure, a
29:49
solution, a resolution. Because like you see it with
29:53
those kids, if they're taken from being troubled teens to all
29:58
better they start making money. Yeah, you know.
30:01
So then then they're not, they don't get their funding.
30:03
There's no incentive to actually help somebody move on.
30:07
Yeah. Exactly.
30:09
And that's why like mental health, like mental health
30:13
professionals, I feel like a big part, it takes a long time and a
30:17
lot of dedication and, and really caring and being
30:21
passionate about helping people because it's you, you have to,
30:30
you have to be able to put that goal over the like financial
30:34
piece of it, if that. Yeah, yeah.
30:36
Yeah, you can. Speak to that more than me.
30:39
No, I'm just, I'm just thinking about when you sign up to meet
30:41
with a therapist, it is, it is law.
30:45
They have to provide you with a public disclosure statement that
30:47
says this is who I am, this is how I practice.
30:50
And then here, here are your rights as a client and here's
30:53
who you can contact if you have any concerns with how I am
30:55
practicing this service. And like the transparency is, is
31:01
everywhere. The problem with these schools
31:03
is a lot of them operate underneath a religious or a
31:07
ministerial like umbrella, which means that they are not
31:12
responsible, but to the same regulations that medical
31:15
professionals are. So there's like a religious
31:18
loophole where you see schools like, you know, conversion
31:21
therapy camps and stuff like that, that exist because people
31:24
have decided that they should exist.
31:25
Even though side note, if you don't know this, you need to
31:28
know it. There's absolutely no medical
31:31
evidence that conversion therapy is helpful.
31:32
It's actually very, very, very, very harmful.
31:34
But those types of places continue to exist because they
31:37
exist underneath the umbrella of a religious institution.
31:40
And so they have different, they have different rules and
31:42
different rights. I wonder why people don't
31:45
transfer church like. I wonder I.
31:51
Wonder transparency is never a bad thing.
31:54
We should always welcome transparency in everything
31:58
except for maybe clothes. I agree.
31:59
Well. Sometimes in clothes.
32:03
OK, maybe not all clothes. But it's crazy.
32:08
Are there spaces where we shouldn't?
32:09
I don't want a transparent house.
32:10
I want my house to have some like.
32:12
Yeah, but remember that movie The Glass House with no
32:17
Sovievsky? No.
32:21
It's fierce. Yeah.
32:22
OK. It was a horror movie, though.
32:24
I don't know if you'd love it. No, I don't love horror.
32:26
We know this about me. It's too scary.
32:28
OK All right, so we basically, we've covered that Paris Hilton
32:33
is an icon and a legend. We celebrate her victory.
32:36
We ask for transparency. And we will continue to say,
32:39
hey, there need to be more mental health options for teens.
32:41
And if you come at me and you describe a kid as troubled, I'm
32:45
going to have some words for you right away.
32:47
That's going to be weird. It's going to be awkward for you
32:49
because Heidi's going to light you up.
32:52
And I just want to throw it out there.
32:54
I think that we could reboot the Simple Life.
32:56
I think a reboot of The Simple Life would be fierce.
33:00
Odd I will feature on it. Of.
33:02
Course, Paris with Nicole with you, there's a lot of things
33:08
that we could do here. So Netflix.
33:13
And that was really mean. Paramount, potentially
33:18
paramount. I could revive your your
33:20
programming in a lot of ways. Caleb, I'm going to be really
33:22
honest. I don't think that I can
33:24
participate in something that's HBO level, like I can watch HBO.
33:29
Well, not with that attitude, you.
33:33
Can it makes me feel very tense. Yeah.
33:36
Clutching my pearls. I love it.
33:42
Caleb, well now just despite and because he's a petty bitch,
33:46
slowly pursue projects that are affiliated with HBO from
33:49
national. I'm already on the line just.
33:53
To see me squirm. OK.
33:54
Are you ready to move on? I'm ready.
33:57
OK, we are clearly the world's foremost experts on sports ball,
34:02
so we're going to talk about the World Cup.
34:04
Yeah, absolutely. Have you seen enough of the
34:07
World Cup, like in the periphery of what's around that you can
34:09
speak on Argentina? No.
34:14
OK, stop. I'm gonna give you, I'm gonna
34:16
give you some info, OK? There's lots of noise around
34:18
Argentina, the so-called villains of the World Cup
34:21
mainly. They're not bad behavior.
34:23
OK, so they obvious news is they lost the championship, which,
34:28
OK, second in World Cup, still a big, big deal.
34:31
But Spain won the championship match and took home the title of
34:34
champion one to zero. And there was a bunch of brawls
34:39
that broke out on the field after the match.
34:42
During the ceremony where they received the trophy, the
34:47
Argentinian team turned their backs and refused to watch it
34:50
happen. And throughout the tournament,
34:52
there has been a lot of noise around Argentina, a lot of
34:54
people thinking that they've benefited from really biased
34:58
officiating, that they've been extremely rough in their fouls
35:03
and that don't often get called. It feels like there seems to be
35:07
a more than professional, like a more invested maybe financially
35:11
relationship between Messi, the captain of the Argentinian team
35:16
and the president of FIFA. And so there actually was a
35:18
petition that was going around that got 23 million signatures
35:23
within a week to have Argentina like banned from the World Cup.
35:27
Now obviously, Well, that sounds.
35:29
Ridiculous. I I mean all the things, so all
35:32
of that you. Can get 23 million signatures
35:34
for anything though, by the way, like there's how many billions
35:38
of people on the Internet? I'm sorry.
35:40
I'm like whatever. Not impressed?
35:43
You're not impressed by the petition?
35:45
I'm not impressed. I'm more annoyed, but yeah.
35:48
Okay, say more. I just want your response to all
35:50
of this. Okay, well, I think that
35:55
Argentina clearly had some poor sport behavior in the final game
36:04
for sure. It's so, it's so good.
36:08
They had poor sport behavior. Yeah.
36:13
Oh my gosh, God bless. We are not new.
36:16
We are not sportscasters. Continue No.
36:19
Jerk No, also fuck them kids because yeah, I don't know, like
36:25
are they they did seem like brats for sure.
36:28
Like I was watching the the clips and whatever and look,
36:31
just just lose gracefully it. It's not necessary to do all
36:36
that. Plus you won last year.
36:37
Like yeah, say you know, you had your meteoric rise, like messy.
36:42
I remember listening to this podcast all through the World
36:45
Cup, not last year, but the last World Cup.
36:48
Was it last year? Is it every year?
36:50
No World Cup, No, I think every four.
36:53
Every four years, yeah, it feels like it was last year, anyway.
36:58
Yes, we're clear. Yes, of course it wasn't.
37:02
I'm like, wow, time flies. I'm getting old, truly.
37:08
So I remember listening to this whole podcast about Messi and
37:13
about Argentina and it was so cool because they're like
37:16
building up to the wind and it it was just like an an awesome
37:19
experience. So I was pro Argentina and I
37:22
really don't give a fuck about sports as we know.
37:24
But yeah, this, this, this World Cup, it clearly they just
37:30
weren't on their best behavior. Bummer.
37:33
And maybe maybe messy is like, you know.
37:39
Corrupt. Don't, don't finish.
37:40
That's enough. You said.
37:43
I saw. I saw your filter catching shit
37:45
as you were saying there in a previous discussion.
37:49
You said that you believe FIFA is corrupt.
37:52
Absolutely. Does that factor into this or
37:55
are you just referencing that investigation that happened in
37:57
the corruption scandal from 2015?
38:01
Well, I'm not referencing anything.
38:06
I'm I'm just a vibes guy over here.
38:09
OK, so the vibe is corruption. I'm not making any serious
38:13
allegations, but I bet Messi's sucking off the FIFA president,
38:18
how about that? That's I damn it, you got that
38:21
in your filter the first time. Yeah, I did.
38:25
And then I decided, no, I'm not. Let it go, let it go.
38:29
Oh my gosh. I mean, I do think there's
38:31
always room in organizations for corruption.
38:33
And I feel like athletics, especially when you get money
38:35
involved, obviously like athletics are just ripe for for
38:40
corruption. But I also feel like contests
38:42
like this are ripe for whining, like if your team doesn't win,
38:45
you're going to be upset about things.
38:48
So I don't know if it's valid or not.
38:49
I just know that, like, me, my little person, my strong,
38:54
powerful self, as an individual, yeah, let's not diminish
38:57
ourselves, OK? As an individual, though, who's
39:00
clearly not invested in this world of sports ball, like I
39:03
have very little influence, no influence over FIFA.
39:08
But I think if we take the outrage and apply it to our
39:11
current world, like I think it's valuable to think about, like,
39:13
what is motivating the decisions that you make in your life?
39:16
What are you valuing, especially if you're part of an
39:18
organization where money's involved.
39:20
And I think you can be part of an organization and say our
39:22
priority is the capital. Our priority is not the people.
39:27
But again, I think you have to be transparent about it.
39:29
Like anybody who gets into sales knows they're not showing up or
39:32
signing up for a job where they're going to be like
39:35
holistically supported by their boss.
39:37
They know that they're showing up.
39:38
And the bottom line is how much money can you make us?
39:40
Like, I think when you're running an organization and you
39:42
say you're about the athletics and you're about the beauty of
39:44
the sport, then you have to be about the athletics and the
39:46
beauty of the sport. Like if you're going to be about
39:48
money, just say you're about money.
39:49
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Are you about money?
39:55
No, no. But that comes from a place of
39:58
privilege where like, I haven't had to be about money because
40:01
like. I just, I recognize the
40:04
privilege when I say no, I'm not all about money.
40:06
It's not the most important thing to me like.
40:09
I love that. That's why you're.
40:11
Education. I married an educator.
40:12
How could you do I? Was going to say you're in the
40:14
field you're in, Yeah. And that's beautiful.
40:18
And there has to be people like you out there for.
40:22
People like you to make money off of.
40:26
Yeah. Are you about the money?
40:30
Oh baby, I there's been one through line in my life.
40:34
This one thing that I have loved since I was a fucking child for
40:38
as long as I can remember, probably 5 years old, is when I
40:43
became aware that I love money with all my heart.
40:47
That's what I love. Yeah.
40:50
Yeah. I don't have enough of it to
40:52
make that valid. Not like, you know, to really,
40:55
like, lock that in. But I just love it.
40:58
I love it. I think it comes from the fact
41:00
that I was very, very poor as a kid.
41:03
Yeah. And that was the thing that made
41:04
me feel, you know, I was like, if I have more of this, I'll be
41:07
free. And it always felt so ridiculous
41:10
to me that people would say money doesn't buy happiness.
41:13
I'm like, money would certainly buy me fucking happiness.
41:15
And it has. Frankly, now that I have, I'm
41:19
not surviving at every moment. I'm not paycheck to paycheck and
41:24
I'm much happier than I was when I was.
41:27
Yeah, no, that's true. I mean, from a give me a second
41:32
to nerd out on brain science, please and thank you.
41:34
But when you're living in a state of survival like that and
41:37
your brain is under chronic stress, like there are long term
41:39
damages that happen to your hippocampus that has to do with
41:41
how you can make like long, long term planning and decisions.
41:44
Like the way that when you're constantly in fighter foot, you
41:48
know what? Stop.
41:49
I mean, I don't need to go to physiological psych.
41:51
I'm just going to hit pause right now and just say I agree.
41:53
When you are in survival mode, there's a lot of different.
41:55
Funds. No, you weren't.
41:58
We were going to clip that. We were going to clip that
42:03
audience. Listeners, we need you to weigh
42:05
in. Did you want Heidi to finish or
42:07
no? Hey research assistant, you
42:10
should check me on that but I am drawing from information for my
42:13
undergrad education which was like 20 years ago so it might
42:16
not be like fully. Speaking of hippopotamus, do you
42:24
love the little videos of that baby hippo that's that have been
42:27
coming out? I have not seen baby hippo
42:29
videos. There's baby hippo videos.
42:31
I'll find it. It's like a pygmy hippo.
42:33
It's like I was like mini hippopotamus.
42:35
OK, I'll find it. My feelings are a little hurt.
42:38
I feel like you're holding out on me.
42:39
The fact that you know that these exist and I don't know
42:41
them yet. So.
42:43
Maybe I made it up, I don't know.
42:45
No, you have, you have till tonight to rectify that.
42:48
So you will fix that for me. I'm gonna put it at the bottom
42:50
of my notes. Remind Caleb to send me hippo
42:55
vid. OK.
42:57
All right. Moving on, did you see there's
43:00
1/2 time performance in the finale game?
43:05
I did. I did see, yeah.
43:09
And it was Shakira and Justin Bieber.
43:13
Madonna's doing her thing, isn't she?
43:15
Have you heard Madonna's new album?
43:17
No. Oh my God, it's like
43:21
transporting me back to 2009, 2008.
43:25
Worth listen. Confessions on the dance board.
43:28
It's absolutely worth a listen. Yeah, it's great.
43:31
OK. It's great, yeah.
43:33
Listen to Madonna. Confessions too, by the way.
43:41
This is the baby. Hippo, I do want to snuggle him.
43:44
I'll send you. Since it's blurred, I'll send.
43:47
You thank you. Appreciate that people had
43:51
opinions about the fact that Justin Bieber played an acoustic
43:55
guitar set for his performance, people.
43:59
People are going to have fucking feelings again about the artist.
44:03
Justin Bieber has paid his dues. That's my feeling.
44:06
Justin Bieber has paid his dues since a child.
44:08
He has gotten up on that stage and entertained for the masses.
44:12
He's been fucking touched on and ripped around and yanked around
44:17
and treated like shit and opinions about him.
44:20
Like absolutely unacceptable opinions thrown out about him in
44:24
public discourse. Fuck y'all.
44:27
You don't have any right to have an opinion about Justin Bieber
44:30
and the kind of set he plays. If you want to play.
44:32
If you want to hear a different set, get up off your ass, make
44:36
the career that he's made, get booked for the halftime show at
44:40
the World Cup and play your own set that you want to play.
44:42
That's how I feel about that. Perfection.
44:46
OK. Thank you.
44:48
He could, plus when he did Coachella and he like pressed
44:50
play on his Spotify playlist. Bitch that was fucking fierce.
44:54
Don't play with me. Do not fucking play with.
44:57
Me his old YouTube videos. Yes, that was fierce.
45:02
OK, yeah. So just do whatever the fuck he
45:04
wants. I.
45:04
Don't care, OK, I kind of love it and I'm I have the same
45:07
mindset now. I'm not an entertainment
45:09
producer such as yourself, but I also feel like he paid his dues
45:12
and he can do whatever he wants. And also if they're booking him
45:15
like you know what you're booking and.
45:18
He made his Bunny. Good.
45:19
Good on him to be like, I'm gonna sing because, like, he got
45:23
into this as a baby because he loved music.
45:27
And the fact that there's still that in him that he's willing to
45:31
still be an artist and try now to do things on his term now
45:35
that he has the fully developed prefrontal cortex where he can
45:38
make decisions for himself that he couldn't make for the first
45:40
decade and a half of his career. Like, I love that for him.
45:44
And so I also feel like people can just like, take several
45:48
seats. Yeah, yeah.
45:50
Sit on the ground. No chair for you.
45:52
No chair for you. We are Pro Bieber at this
45:55
podcast. Yeah, thank you.
45:57
Yeah, he's, you know, he's gone through a lot too.
46:00
And I don't, I actually don't really know, you know, because
46:02
that's the thing, it's always, there's so much information out
46:04
there about like what's happening with Justin Bieber and
46:06
all of these other celebrities that the obsession with
46:09
celebrity like goings on is kind of silly in, in like how hyper
46:15
critical we as a society can be of these human beings.
46:19
Yeah. And it but according to the
46:22
press, Justin's been going through some shit, so good for
46:25
him. Staying booked, staying blessed.
46:28
Take care of your family, do your thing, play your guitar,
46:31
sing, sing a song or don't sing a song.
46:33
I don't care. OK, go, Biebs.
46:35
We're we're rooting for you. Yeah.
46:37
OK. From one cutie pie to another.
46:39
I need to know gear shift if you know about Jimothy the Raccoon.
46:45
Our good our dear friend Jimothy up here in Seattle.
46:48
Yes. Mm hmm.
46:50
Oh, I know about Jimothy. OK, I I I'm I'm a big fan of
46:54
Jimothy. Yeah, a big fan of Jimothy, and
46:58
I have to say, I'm obsessed with raccoons.
47:01
I want when I get my little hoe with my little farmstead, I'm
47:06
getting some raccoons I want. I want everyone to know that it
47:10
might not work well with the chickens.
47:11
I want to, yeah, but we'll keep them separate, OK?
47:16
OK, I listeners, if you are not familiar, I'm just going to need
47:19
you to go ahead and hit pause on this podcast right now, unless
47:22
you're driving and then wait till you get to, you know, a
47:25
place where you can actually access your mobile phone safely.
47:27
But you need to Google Jimothy because he is this adorable
47:31
little deformed raccoon in Seattle who looks like an alien.
47:38
The the medical experts say he has a spinal deformity, so I
47:41
wasn't trying to be offensive with that.
47:44
But he does have a very unique shape.
47:48
Looks like, I mean, I don't know, you Google him and then
47:50
you decide for yourself what you want to make of Jimothy's
47:53
special uniform. He's so cute.
47:56
He's so cute. And I love a raccoon as well.
48:01
Yeah, they're adorable. I just.
48:04
They're so sweet. I raccoon 10 out of 1010 out of
48:09
10. A couple weeks ago when we spun
48:13
the wheel, there was a book recommendation and I recommended
48:15
a book called The Blood of Hercules.
48:17
There is a character in that book who is a Sonic like demigod
48:22
God character who has like his support animal is this little
48:26
raccoon named Poco. And so he's this big
48:29
intimidating character and his Poco just like chills on his
48:33
head and braids his hair and is just like always there.
48:37
And it's a really phenomenal. If you didn't want to read the
48:39
book already, I'm just going to tell you Blood of Hercules by
48:41
Jasmine Moss does feature a very excellent raccoon, so.
48:45
That's so cute. Yeah, now you know that.
48:47
What's the name? Rocket was the name of the
48:49
raccoon in the. Guardians of the Galaxy.
48:54
Guardians of the Galaxy, Yeah. Best character in the show?
48:57
Agreed. Yes, heart wrenching.
49:01
Well, they go together. Yeah.
49:04
I mean, peas and carrots, Groot and Rocket.
49:05
Let's go. Amen.
49:07
OK, we're going to stay on this track of adorable animals.
49:11
I sent you a post about a gay sheep farm, OK?
49:16
And I wanted to give you some more information because I
49:18
looked into it. OK, tell me, Tell me about the
49:21
gay. Sheep.
49:21
I didn't even do that for her. I looked into it because that's.
49:24
Her place. Wow.
49:25
Sorry, I got shrill there for a second.
49:27
I jumped up and OK. That's when she gets excited.
49:30
OK, it never happens. OK OK, so this farm is in
49:34
Germany. So here's what happens.
49:36
People, statistically, one in 12 sheep have homosexual interests.
49:42
OK, they're gay. And that's about.
49:45
The same as people. Yeah, one in 12, we really it's
49:48
just one in 12 that was one in four.
49:50
I think we definitely 10 down. To one in four, but yeah.
49:53
Okay, anyway, in the sheep world, one in 12 are gay.
49:57
And when Rams do not fulfill their quote, UN quote, breeding
50:01
purpose, they get sent to the slaughterhouse because you're
50:04
not going to be knocking up. Yeah, make that face.
50:06
It's offensive. If you're not knocking up the
50:08
ewes. They're like, well, we have no
50:09
use for you, so we will feed people with you.
50:12
OK, so there's this German farmer who rescues these gay
50:17
Rams and has a farm in Germany that's like ecologically
50:23
sustainable. It's like a wildlife preserve.
50:27
He's like on the leading edge of conservation efforts and things
50:30
like that. And his flock is all gay Rams
50:34
and they. And then when they harvest their
50:36
wool, they create like apparel and fashion products from the
50:40
wool from. This run me the website I want
50:44
gay ram fashion please first. Of all.
50:48
Gay Ram. We'll just let that sit there.
50:52
And that's fierce. And what the I'm not surprised
51:00
that they're killing our people or our our our sheep.
51:05
Sheep. Our.
51:09
Kind. Yeah.
51:11
They're always trying to kill us.
51:12
What? The fuck?
51:13
Yeah, it's. Really.
51:14
Not good. That's nasty.
51:16
Yeah, that's nasty. Well.
51:19
Caleb, this is really important. You can sponsor a gay sheep
51:23
through rainbow wool. OK.
51:26
So when we start making money, can our podcast sponsor a gay
51:31
sheep? Yeah, I'm literally I'm going to
51:35
sponsor a gay sheep. Right right now, Rainbow Wool,
51:40
we are going to include the link to the Rainbow Wool website in
51:43
the show notes. He's gasping.
51:47
I want to sponsor them. All I broke Caleb.
51:52
I'm so sorry, so cute. What the fuck?
51:58
Oh wait, hold on, I have to show you.
52:05
Oh my God, how? Cute they are.
52:07
I know, I know. Don't you just want to snuggle
52:09
all their faces? How do you blushy boshy?
52:14
Cowboy. Joe Cowboy, Franz Kafka, You've
52:19
got to be fucking kidding me. Frinderlyn von Schroff horny.
52:25
Horny horny. We love him.
52:28
Well, listeners, we're gonna have to sponsor a few.
52:34
We're gonna need to come up with a a, a survey and we're gonna
52:41
have to choose which which sheep we're gonna sponsor, OK?
52:46
OK. Yeah, we'll do that.
52:48
This is the most important thing we've talked about all day.
52:53
Gay rights. Oh my God.
52:55
So I'm gonna include the link to the website below our Spotify
53:03
episode, below the show, and then we're going to start a poll
53:08
on our Instagram. Yeah, poll on the Instagram.
53:12
For which Ram we will sponsor? OK, So people, we'll keep the
53:19
poll up for a little bit of time.
53:20
So if you're hearing this hustle on over to our Instagram, it's
53:22
looking into podcast, OK? And you can weigh in on whether
53:26
or not we're going to be sponsoring Frank Kafka or Horny
53:31
or Madonna or whatever. Fonsi Bonsi the.
53:36
Other name. They're all so cute.
53:38
We're gonna choose. Heidi and I are gonna come up
53:40
with five and you will all get to choose between those 5.
53:44
Okay, sounds good. That's so fierce.
53:48
Wow. Thank you, Heidi.
53:49
Doing the Lord's work for gay sheep, you know.
53:53
What? That's I.
53:53
Feel so seen in this moment. I'm so personally I'm not a
53:58
sheep, but. But you could be.
54:01
I could be, you could be. I could be with a horn like
54:04
that, Mama. Oh my gosh.
54:12
All. Right, What's next I need, I'm
54:15
going to, we're going to do a rapid fire summary because I
54:17
have cult considerations for all of these things.
54:20
OK? So I think it's always important
54:22
as we're working on ongoing projects like our intentions to
54:25
start a cult and they're really your intentions.
54:30
I'm looping myself into this because I don't want to be left
54:32
behind. So OK in our intention to.
54:35
Start a cult. A famous book series.
54:37
Did you read that from a cult? Of course I did what?
54:42
Did you think of it? Oh I I read it like it was
54:44
gospel. Me too.
54:46
Yeah, me too. And and then I, you know,
54:50
learned more and realized that the Book of Revelation is
54:52
actually a very specific form of literature called apocalyptic
54:56
literature and that it was not meant to be predictive of the
54:59
future, but it was actually a very stylized and poetic warning
55:03
to the churches of the day. So hey, if you're going to read
55:04
the Bible, you have to read it contextually within the cultural
55:09
context and the literary context of the form of you're written.
55:12
Like if you're reading poetry, it's poetry.
55:14
It's not predictive prophecy. So left behind this wrong.
55:18
I was always like, if there's gonna be a rapture and tons of
55:22
people are just gonna disappear one day, why don't I just wait
55:24
for that to be like locked in? Why don't I just lock in then?
55:29
It didn't really seem like there was a whole lot of consequence
55:31
to not lock in after the rapture.
55:33
Oh, no. You know, I I lived in that fear
55:35
of hell, baby. I was like, we gotta go.
55:38
We gotta yeah, you can't be left behind.
55:42
I just feel like I have more chances to rule the world after
55:46
everyone else is gone. It makes sense given our given
55:49
our personalities that you would be looking at that
55:51
strategically. How do I play this to my
55:53
advantage where I'm like, uh oh, now I'm scared I will respond
55:58
emotionally. OK.
55:59
So Kayla, will our cult have access to movie screens and will
56:04
we invest in IMAX or standard? Our cult will have access to
56:12
movie screens in a standard format for propaganda purposes.
56:16
OK, excellent. What will our cult do with
56:20
troubled teens? Weaponize them.
56:26
Excellent. Yeah, Arm them and weaponize
56:30
them, yeah. Do we need checks and balances
56:33
for our cult leadership organization?
56:36
No what? OK, we're following the FIFA
56:38
route. We're not gonna have checks and.
56:40
Balances. No check.
56:41
Yeah, checks and balances. OK.
56:45
The checks. You can write me the checks, but
56:47
I won't be balanced. Regarding half time
56:51
performances, sorry, I just, I just caught up with what you
56:55
were saying. Sometimes I just move on too
57:00
fast and I miss the quips that you make until I listen to us
57:03
back and then I'm like, damn it, how did I miss that?
57:05
He stole the hot pot. Like I don't you can write us
57:09
checks. We won't be balanced.
57:11
OK, when it comes to halftime performances, when we host
57:15
entertainment, what are our production standards and will
57:19
Biebs be allowed to go lo fi? If it's within the contractual
57:28
obligations that we agreed upon ahead of time, yes.
57:33
I am an artist first producer. I like to have artists feel
57:39
supported, and I like for them to be able to produce the art
57:43
that they want to produce in its most authentic form because I
57:48
feel like that's what produces the best art.
57:53
But they need to communicate what it is that they want to do
57:56
ahead of time so I can best support them.
57:57
And if they go off script from the contract, we're gonna have a
58:01
problem. OK, so listeners, no checks and
58:05
balances to our system other than the checks that you write
58:08
us. But if you're coming to provide
58:10
live entertainment, you will have a locked down contract and
58:14
you'll have an excellent negotiation.
58:18
The things that you take seriously.
58:19
I love it so much, Jimothy. OK, do we need a mascot?
58:23
Yeah. We probably is our.
58:25
Mascot going to be Jimoth, yeah. All.
58:30
All the mascots we're gonna have, Jimothy, we'll have the
58:32
pygmy hippo, we'll have gay sheep.
58:33
We'll have them all. Period.
58:36
Goats. There's gotta be goats. 2 goats.
58:39
Why? Why there's?
58:40
Why? Because I'm obsessed with goats.
58:42
I love goats. But just two.
58:45
At least 2 two liter goats. There can be young goats too,
58:48
but at least two leadership goats. 2 leadership The entire
58:53
leadership team is. Goats.
58:56
OK, this is really important to me.
58:57
Screaming goats or fainting goats?
59:01
One is screaming, one is fainting and they have to do it
59:04
at the same time. I can't wait for those
59:09
leadership meetings, babe. It's going to be a great, great
59:11
cold. Fears.
59:13
Yeah, that's the balance that we're talking about.
59:17
Excellent. Yeah, Yeah.
59:19
My last question was can we sponsor a sheep?
59:21
But we've already determined that that's happening.
59:22
So that is. What it is?
59:24
OK, excellent. Well, that concludes what I have
59:29
prepared for this episode of Caleb Reacts and our cool
59:33
considerations. Do you have any follow up
59:35
thoughts? I'd love, I love your response.
59:37
And if you like this format, if it worked, if you I don't know,
59:39
I'm gonna stop talking. I'm gonna let you.
59:41
Talk I'm I'm really interested in how the how our listeners
59:45
felt because I love it. I'm obsessed with with you
59:50
asking me questions. That's great.
59:53
Yeah. This is so fun.
59:57
I also want to know are is there a gay goat farm now that we're
1:00:00
talking about gay livestock? I don't know, babe, you can look
1:00:04
into that because I feel like, I feel like I'm going to take the
1:00:07
research I have. My homework.
1:00:08
You have your homework, OK, I. Have my homework for next week.
1:00:11
You're going to send me the hippo video and you're going to
1:00:13
see if there's gay goat farms. I need to listen to Madonna's
1:00:17
album and then we'll figure out which sheep we're going to
1:00:21
sponsor. Period.
1:00:23
Yeah, OK. That's great.
1:00:25
What a fun time. What a fun time.
1:00:27
On that note, Brandon, I think we're done here for the night.
1:00:30
So play us out, babe. Play us out.