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- 0:00Hello, good Monday to you.
- 0:02Happy freaking Monday to you.
- 0:05I am Samuel Trapp.
- 0:07This is International Flavor.
- 0:10You are listening to DAMN Radio this Monday
- 0:14morning, and I'm glad you're here and frankly,
- 0:18I'm glad I'm here.
- 0:19And the weather seems to be cooperating a
- 0:23little bit with me, which I like.
- 0:28It's been an interesting weekend, though.
- 0:30Lots of news, lots of protesting, lots of
- 0:36Olympics, lots of sporting events, but I've been
- 0:42working or recovering.
- 0:45It seems like I have a lot of
- 0:47things going on, and so therefore, I've been
- 0:49a bit a bit busy.
- 0:52I had to paint a ceiling yesterday.
- 0:57That was about the extent of any hard
- 1:01labor, and then I painted the walls the
- 1:04day before, and so try to keep myself,
- 1:08I don't know, somewhat active doing something.
- 1:10No, not that I don't work.
- 1:12I work my little tail off for the
- 1:15most part.
- 1:19I've been, you know, I've been following so
- 1:23many things.
- 1:23It's hard to tell where I wish to
- 1:25start.
- 1:25I think I want to start with Hungary
- 1:34and Viktor Orban.
- 1:36He said yesterday, I think it was Saturday
- 1:41actually, it just got translated to us on
- 1:43Sunday.
- 1:44He said that Ukraine is going to be
- 1:50considered that if they're, you know, it's basically
- 1:54if you're not part of the solution, you're
- 1:56part of the problem, and he, in a
- 2:00speech, said that they were going to be,
- 2:05they were very quickly moving toward the realm
- 2:07of enemies.
- 2:09Not, not just not with us.
- 2:13They are our enemies, and it's for a
- 2:15lot of reasons they were talking about this.
- 2:18Orban has been against this from the very
- 2:21beginning.
- 2:21He's against them being in the EU.
- 2:24There's talks all about the horror story of
- 2:31Zelensky and the Verhovna Rada were also not
- 2:39happy when Ruta was there speaking last week
- 2:43when he indicated that even if after the
- 2:48conflict is done and there are Western or
- 2:54European so-called peacekeepers sent in, and they
- 2:59were targeted by Russia, because Russia says that
- 3:04is unacceptable for the, for European or American
- 3:08troops to be stationed in in Ukraine, you
- 3:13know, just probably like we would say or
- 3:16have said that you can't let China and
- 3:20Russia be in Greenland or Cuba or anything
- 3:24like that, that if Western troops were in
- 3:27Ukraine and Russia attacked them, that would not
- 3:32indicate that Article 5 of the NATO Charter
- 3:38would be, you know, they wouldn't consider that
- 3:41an attack on the country of origin of
- 3:46the soldiers, if that makes sense.
- 3:49And, well, it does make sense, and I
- 3:51get it, and people were not happy about
- 3:54that indication.
- 3:58Zelensky has been trying to kill the peace
- 4:00deal ever since it started.
- 4:03There's been a bit of a, a bit
- 4:05of a, an effort to have some kind
- 4:08of a counter-offensive.
- 4:09Now, I think it's because a lot of
- 4:11weapons have come their way, because they were
- 4:14basically out of everything.
- 4:17And then in recent, last couple of weeks,
- 4:22and a couple of indicators, the use of
- 4:27Starlink by Russian forces has been terminated, unregistered
- 4:33use of Starlink has been terminated by Elon
- 4:37Musk.
- 4:38And so that has apparently led to some
- 4:41issues on the ground for some Russian areas
- 4:44of the front.
- 4:46It doesn't mean they aren't still beating the
- 4:49snot out of, out of Ukraine in, in
- 4:52many places.
- 4:53It just means that there, that it's harder.
- 4:56They got to do work around and maybe
- 4:57level the playing field a tiny bit, because
- 5:00Russia's been beating the snot out of them.
- 5:03I mean, Ukraine over the weekend was bombing
- 5:05the heck out of Russian infrastructure as well.
- 5:10And so, Zelensky gave a speech.
- 5:14There was also an assassination attempt on a
- 5:17high-ranking Russian general.
- 5:20And so, you know, all kinds of news
- 5:24today.
- 5:25I wanted to start with the, telling the
- 5:28whole story instead of just the, the snippets
- 5:31of Orban.
- 5:39Excuse me.
- 5:40So, European officials have been, and Zelensky, have
- 5:43been trying to derail peace in Ukraine ever
- 5:46since it was first started.
- 5:47They don't want peace.
- 5:48They want Russia to, what do you call
- 5:51it, have a ceasefire so they can re
- 5:56- structure everything that they, they wish to
- 6:01do in there, regroup, send new soldiers in.
- 6:04There's been now, the Verkhovna Rada in, in
- 6:10Ukraine has now authorized the use of military
- 6:14weapons against people to be mobilized.
- 6:19Used to be they didn't have any of
- 6:20that.
- 6:20They'd just beat the crap out of them
- 6:22and throw them in a, in a crucifixion
- 6:25van, and now they are authorized weapons.
- 6:31That's great.
- 6:32Wonder when the first person is gonna get
- 6:33killed there.
- 6:35And that's what Orban was complaining, you know,
- 6:37people have been talking about as well.
- 6:40And it's, Western heads of state have been
- 6:44acting like nannies to Zelensky during his talks
- 6:49with the U.S., said Hungarian Foreign Minister
- 6:52Peter Szijjarto.
- 6:54In an interview with Georgia's Rustavi 2 channel,
- 6:58where that showed on Sunday, Szijjarto said Ukraine's
- 7:02European backers rallied to prevent Trump from pressuring
- 7:08Zelensky to agree to a peace deal with
- 7:11Russia.
- 7:13European nannies accompanied him, European leaders, I'm sorry,
- 7:16accompanied him like nannies.
- 7:19It was humiliating for Zelensky.
- 7:22It was obvious to outside observers because his
- 7:26caregivers would not let the patient go alone.
- 7:30If you are the leader of a sovereign
- 7:32country and you are invited somewhere, you don't
- 7:35take six, eight, or ten other leaders with
- 7:38you, said Szijjarto.
- 7:40He said that the entourage traveling with Zelensky
- 7:43was a very bad look.
- 7:47Multiple media outlets said that Prime Minister Starmer
- 7:51and French President Macron coached Zelensky.
- 7:56Now that was, remember that when that came
- 7:57out a while ago?
- 8:00Coached Zelensky on how to repair relations with
- 8:02Trump, you know, kiss his ass, basically, following
- 8:06their explosive argument at the White House in
- 8:08February of 2025.
- 8:10Leaders of UK, France, Germany, Italy, and Finland
- 8:12all accompanied Zelensky during his subsequent visit in
- 8:17the U.S. So he argued, Szijjarto, that
- 8:21Ukraine's European backers had convinced Zelensky to walk
- 8:27away from the first peace talks with Russia
- 8:30nearly four years ago.
- 8:32And if an agreement is made now, it
- 8:34will clearly be worse for Ukraine and worse
- 8:37for Europe compared to what was agreed upon
- 8:41and signed in April of 2022.
- 8:44And last year, the EU denounced Trump's peace
- 8:47plan, which called for Ukraine to withdraw troops
- 8:50from the Donbass and make territorial concessions.
- 8:53They don't want to end the war.
- 8:54They want it to continue and they want
- 8:57to force Russia to give Ukraine back the
- 9:01Donbass because they got a lot of money
- 9:03tied up in that.
- 9:05And the bet is that if the U
- 9:07.S. will continue to try to force that
- 9:13issue, that they can get those rare earths
- 9:18and the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant.
- 9:22Apparently that was a big bitching point over
- 9:25the talks here in the last few days.
- 9:29Well, last week, I mean, that they've been
- 9:31talking about and that Zaporizhia nuclear power plant
- 9:36needs to be turned back over to the
- 9:40Z monster and a couple of other, well,
- 9:46territorial concessions.
- 9:47You know, Zelensky has been saying and he
- 9:50said it again over the weekend.
- 9:51I mean, he's trying to tank any chance
- 9:54at settlement.
- 9:55There's also talks of a huge Russian deal
- 9:58in the works with the United States worth
- 10:01trillions, is what the general
- 10:13newsworthiness in other countries is saying.
- 10:17And that is something to keep an eye
- 10:22on if that turns out to be accurate.
- 10:27Lavrov, for his part, Sergey Lavrov, Sergey Viktorovich,
- 10:31he spoke and said he had an interesting,
- 10:36I listened to his speech the other day.
- 10:38He was giving a, well, he gives them
- 10:40all the time.
- 10:41So I don't remember exactly which one it
- 10:43was I was listening to.
- 10:44But he said that the U.S. wants
- 10:48to take total control of the energy supply
- 10:51of the world.
- 10:53And that's what their actions are, that's what
- 10:56they're doing right now.
- 10:58And they have to resort to this coercive
- 11:01measures.
- 11:03In order to push for economic dominance.
- 11:06Now, anybody who knows, and I'm going to
- 11:08tell a story, another story I read over
- 11:12the weekend that really tends to, I disagree
- 11:16with this kind of, I don't know, scenario,
- 11:21this kind of putting things out.
- 11:23I just don't like it.
- 11:24It's not friendly.
- 11:25It's not world friendly at all.
- 11:28And it's, I don't like, I don't think
- 11:31it's a good look for an American president
- 11:33to do stuff like this.
- 11:35And I really don't.
- 11:37By the way, the ice, everybody protested over
- 11:41the weekend about ice protests.
- 11:44That's, I'll let JR tell those stories.
- 11:48That'll be a lot of fun for him,
- 11:50I'm sure.
- 11:51And I do plan on listening.
- 11:53So, you won't talk about real international flavor
- 11:58though.
- 11:59Elon Musk says he's going to plan a
- 12:01self-growing moon city.
- 12:04A city on the moon.
- 12:07Now, that's international, isn't it?
- 12:13Got to finish my coffee before it gets
- 12:15too cold.
- 12:17Anyway, the US is trying to take control
- 12:19of all international energy supply routes in an
- 12:22attempt to attain global economic dominance.
- 12:26Once again, said Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.
- 12:30During his speech at the World Economic Forum,
- 12:33he said, Donald Trump has claimed that he
- 12:36made America the hottest country anywhere in the
- 12:39world in terms of business activity.
- 12:41He called the US the economic engine on
- 12:44the planet.
- 12:45Said, you all follow us down, you follow
- 12:48us up.
- 12:48Remember when Trumpster said that?
- 12:50So, in an interview with TV Bricks Media
- 12:54Network Monday, ahead of the celebration for February
- 12:5910, Lavrov said the US objective to dominate
- 13:02the world economy is being realized using a
- 13:05fairly large number of coercive measures incompatible with
- 13:11fair competition.
- 13:13As part of the push, the Americans want
- 13:16to take control of all the routes for
- 13:19providing the world's leading countries and all continents
- 13:23with energy resources.
- 13:26Now, it doesn't take a genius to say
- 13:28that he's right.
- 13:30You know, he's absolutely right.
- 13:32On the European continent, they're eyeing Nord Stream,
- 13:36which was blown up three years ago.
- 13:38The Ukrainian gas supports a transportation system and
- 13:42TurkStream, said the minister.
- 13:45So, there's efforts to take all of those.
- 13:47Lavrov also referred to the sanctions against Luke
- 13:51oil and Rosneft.
- 13:52The war against tankers in the open sea
- 13:54is waged by the US, which announced an
- 13:57oil blockade of Venezuela, kidnapped the oil rich
- 14:00company's president, Nicolas Maduro, in January.
- 14:04They are trying to ban India and other
- 14:07partners from buying cheap, affordable Russian energy resources.
- 14:11Europe has long been banned, and he is
- 14:16forcing them to buy US LNG at exorbitant
- 14:19prices.
- 14:20All true, by the way.
- 14:23All absolutely true.
- 14:25Trump has repeatedly threatened secondary sanctions and tariffs
- 14:29on countries purchasing Russian energy.
- 14:31Now, if you take it from a business
- 14:35point of view, you know, if you want
- 14:36to play, what Trump is a corporate raider,
- 14:44you know, and you can maybe honor that
- 14:46kind of thing, I suppose.
- 14:48Frankly, I don't.
- 14:49I don't like that kind of stuff in
- 14:51corporations, just like I don't like it with
- 14:54countries.
- 14:56But at least in business, when you argue
- 15:01that that's all because of, you know, money
- 15:06and people, you know, in search of a
- 15:09good return for your investor class and a
- 15:13healthy bottom line, that's not everything you're supposed
- 15:17to consider.
- 15:18The only thing you're supposed to consider in
- 15:21politics, you're supposed to have some sort of,
- 15:25I don't know, country equality or the proposition
- 15:31that you're not going to kill and capture
- 15:33leaders, you know, of another of another country.
- 15:36And people have been doing that for generations,
- 15:39by the way.
- 15:39We're just the latest empire to do so.
- 15:44And that's, you know, that's reality.
- 15:48So with the U.S. creating artificial barriers
- 15:52for trade and energy, the BRICS nations are
- 15:55forced to look for additional secure ways to
- 15:59develop financial, economic, integration, logistics and other projects,
- 16:05said Lavrov.
- 16:07And so BRICS is coming up again where
- 16:12they are talking about those sorts of things.
- 16:16Did you see the U.S. relations are
- 16:21really not in a good state?
- 16:23OK, Trump had to win when Vance was
- 16:27at the Milan Olympics opening.
- 16:29OK, and this was a couple of days
- 16:32ago.
- 16:33The Team USA were coming out and being
- 16:35cheered and they were then they showed the
- 16:39camera on the big screen, went, showed J
- 16:44.D. Vance.
- 16:47And he was booed.
- 16:50And so U.S. President Trump expressed surprise
- 16:56after hearing that J.D. Vance was booed
- 16:59at the Olympics opening ceremony in Italy.
- 17:02The Winter Olympics opened on Friday with the
- 17:06traditional parade of nations at Milan's iconic San
- 17:11Siro Stadium.
- 17:12Team USA entered the stadium to applause.
- 17:15But when the camera briefly showed Vance and
- 17:18his wife, Usha, waving American flags, booing began.
- 17:25And I've got the well, we can watch
- 17:28it on X, but oops, those are a
- 17:31lot of boos for him whistling during some
- 17:35applause.
- 17:36Not a long shot for him on the
- 17:38screen there.
- 17:38CBC commentator said on the live feed in
- 17:42the video quickly went viral.
- 17:46So Trump on Air Force One said he
- 17:48hadn't seen the broadcast, but found the reception
- 17:51surprising.
- 17:52That's surprising because people like him, he said,
- 17:56adding that Vance is in a foreign country.
- 17:59In all fairness, he doesn't get booed in
- 18:01this country.
- 18:03In my 22 Olympics, it probably has happened,
- 18:06but I sure don't remember it.
- 18:08Longtime USA Today sports columnist Christine Brennan wrote
- 18:13on X.
- 18:14Some people suggest the frosty welcome was linked
- 18:18to public discontent over recent US policies.
- 18:25US and EU relations are quite strained since
- 18:29Trump returned to office, marked by trade disputes,
- 18:33tariffs, digital regulation, Ukraine, Trump's threats to take
- 18:38over Greenland, domestic unrest over Trump's aggressive immigration
- 18:43enforcement also appears to have spilled over into
- 18:46Italy.
- 18:47Hundreds protested in Milan on Friday against the
- 18:51presence of US immigration and customs enforcement personnel
- 18:55assigned to provide security for the US delegation.
- 19:01That was weird.
- 19:02Why in the world are we sending immigration
- 19:06enforcement to Italy?
- 19:09I don't know.
- 19:10Vance was not alone in getting booed.
- 19:12Team Israel received a frosty welcome.
- 19:15They had anticipated a hostile reception due to
- 19:19Gaza and global support for Palestinians.
- 19:23The Olympics will run from February 6th to
- 19:26the 22nd.
- 19:27Thirteen Russian athletes will compete under neutral flags
- 19:31because Russia's Olympic Committee suspension over Ukraine, a
- 19:36decision Moscow denounces as political, as do I.
- 19:41It's, you know, not it doesn't happen, but
- 19:45it happens.
- 19:46You know, nowadays, you know, we cancel.
- 19:48We still have that cancel culture.
- 19:52And it's nonsense.
- 19:54It's I just I disagree with it completely.
- 19:56If you aren't inviting all of the Olympians
- 20:00of the world, how in the world can
- 20:01you pretend that you've won?
- 20:05It may if you don't compete against all
- 20:07comers, then you don't compete.
- 20:10That's not a competition.
- 20:11It's nonsense.
- 20:13And the Russian teams are usually, you know,
- 20:16pretty, pretty solid, you know.
- 20:20So we have nannying.
- 20:22We have nannying in the Olympics.
- 20:25We have complaints against that.
- 20:28We have Zelensky trying to kill the chances
- 20:31for Russian-Ukraine peace that where he was
- 20:36the this is by Nadezhda Romanenko, who's a
- 20:40political analyst.
- 20:42Decent article.
- 20:44And I don't know if you heard about
- 20:46it, but maybe you have not.
- 20:48But Lieutenant General Vladimir Alekseev, who's the first
- 20:52deputy chief of Russia's main intelligence directorate, is
- 20:56Zelensky's latest desperate bid to sabotage emerging Russia
- 21:02-Ukraine-U.S. negotiations in Abu Dhabi and
- 21:06prolong the war, which he wants to do.
- 21:10When negotiations gain traction, spoilers surface.
- 21:15That's negotiation 101.
- 21:17And this week's second round was precisely in
- 21:20Abu Dhabi was precisely the kind of movement
- 21:23that unnerves actors who fear ballot reform and
- 21:27accountability more than the inevitable defeat on the
- 21:30battlefield.
- 21:32This is obviously the Zelensky regime.
- 21:35The target choice reinforces this point.
- 21:38Alekseev is the second in command of the
- 21:42GRU chief Igor Kostiakov, who sits on Russian
- 21:47delegation in Abu Dhabi.
- 21:49Striking the number two is the number one
- 21:52shuttles between sessions is very is a very
- 21:55deliberate message and an attempt to rattle Russians
- 21:58delegation, inject chaos into the decision loop for
- 22:04security overdrive and ultimately to provoke Moscow's withdrawals
- 22:09from the talks.
- 22:10There's already rumors that Russia's gone, you know,
- 22:13as B.S. Why in the world are
- 22:15we here?
- 22:16Nor is this the first time theater is
- 22:19tracked with diplomatic motion.
- 22:21Recall the attempted drone strike on President Putin's
- 22:25Valdai residence in 2025 that coincided with particularly
- 22:29intense U.S. and Russia exchanges.
- 22:32You don't have to be a cynic like
- 22:34I am to see a pattern.
- 22:37Whenever a diplomatic door cracks open, someone tries
- 22:42to slam it shut with explosive drones or
- 22:45bullets and then retreats behind a smokescreen of
- 22:49denial and proxies.
- 22:51It's called plausible deniability as a policy.
- 22:56Why would Kiv's leadership gamble like this?
- 22:59Well, let's start with the raw political incentive.
- 23:03Vladimir Zelensky extended his tenure beyond the intended
- 23:06March 2024 election under martial law.
- 23:10We're almost two years into that, right?
- 23:14March is two years from when elections were
- 23:17supposed to take place and never did.
- 23:19And then May will be the two years
- 23:21where a new president was supposed to be
- 23:24in.
- 23:24And he's still there.
- 23:25If hostilities wind down and emergency powers are
- 23:29gone, the ballot box looms.
- 23:32There's been talk that Trump and the American
- 23:37side wants some kind of a deal and
- 23:41elections forcing the Z-man out, which is
- 23:45basically what's going to happen.
- 23:47Everybody knows it.
- 23:48But they'll twist it and claim that he
- 23:51won.
- 23:51They'll stack the elections and, you know, stand
- 23:55with guns at the ballot boxes or something.
- 23:59His standing, Zelensky's, has eroded amid war fatigue,
- 24:04unmet expectation, and massive corruption scandals that are
- 24:08swirling around his administration that infuriates many Ukrainians
- 24:14and have dealt Zelensky's image a huge blow.
- 24:18End the war without a narrative total victory,
- 24:22and he risks owning a very messy piece,
- 24:26a grueling reconstruction, and a reckoning at the
- 24:31polls.
- 24:32Facing voters at a stadium famously worked well
- 24:36during Zelensky's initial presidential campaign, but now endlessly
- 24:41moving the goalpost is his only hope of
- 24:45clinging to power.
- 24:46That's absolutely true.
- 24:49Then there's the strategic logic of spoilers.
- 24:53Negotiations compress time, clarify trade-offs, and create
- 24:58deadlines, none of which benefit Ukrainian maximalists.
- 25:03If an agreement would force Kyiv to accept
- 25:06hard limits or expose fissures with its more
- 25:10hawkish backers, creating a pretext to stall makes
- 25:14sense from a narrow survival lens.
- 25:18A brazen hit inside Moscow during talks does
- 25:23exactly that.
- 25:24It dares the Kremlin to harden its stance,
- 25:27fractures trust at the table, and lets Kyiv
- 25:30posture as unbowed while keeping the wartime rally
- 25:34framework at home.
- 25:36Even if direct authorship can be obfuscated, at
- 25:39least on paper, because nobody will buy claims
- 25:42that Kyiv had nothing to do with it,
- 25:45the practical effect is what counts.
- 25:47Of course Ukraine is saying, oh jeez, we
- 25:49didn't have anything to do with it.
- 25:50But where'd one of the people run off
- 25:52to?
- 25:55Ukraine, naturally.
- 25:56You think they'll be found there?
- 25:58No.
- 25:59Particularly Ukrainian defenders will object.
- 26:02Kyiv has every incentive to keep U.S.
- 26:04support flowing, so why risk alienating Washington with
- 26:08an operation that screams escalation?
- 26:11Because incentives are not monolithic.
- 26:14They're filtered through domestic politics, factional competition within
- 26:19security service, and the temptations of a successful
- 26:22spectacle.
- 26:24And remember, spoilers don't have to be centrally
- 26:26ordered to be useful.
- 26:28A wink, a nod, a green light to
- 26:29make pressure can travel a long way in
- 26:33wartime bureaucracy.
- 26:36Also, his party, Zelensky's, is soon to be
- 26:42one short of having a, they'll need a
- 26:48coalition.
- 26:49They can't do it unilaterally, his party, because
- 26:52they've lost so many and there can be
- 26:54no elections to replace them.
- 26:56So they're bleeding now, not only men on
- 27:00the front line, they're bleeding people in Nuroverhovna
- 27:02Rada.
- 27:03So the most important thing for Russia and
- 27:05the U.S. at this stage is to
- 27:07firewall talks from bloody theatrics.
- 27:10For the negotiation process to provide real results,
- 27:13it has to be built to survive shock.
- 27:16There's already talk of Russia going, screw this,
- 27:18we're out, you know, because the shocks will
- 27:21keep coming.
- 27:24That means insulating prisoner exchange and humanitarian work
- 27:27groups from headline provocation, revalidating military de-conflict
- 27:32channels, and demanding verifiable behavior change rather than
- 27:36trading barbs about attribution in the press.
- 27:40The larger point is simple.
- 27:42If we let every well-timed bullet dictate
- 27:45the peace, the pace, I'm sorry, of diplomacy,
- 27:48we're outsourcing strategy to those who fear peace
- 27:52the most.
- 27:53That's the Z monster.
- 27:55The Alexeyev attack fits a familiar script.
- 27:59Choose a symbolically loaded target, hijack the narrative,
- 28:03and hope negotiators flinch.
- 28:05The right response is the opposite.
- 28:07Call the bluff, keep the calendar, raise the
- 28:10cost of sabotage by refusing to let it
- 28:13reset the table.
- 28:15Zelensky's regime may calculate that its political survival
- 28:20depends on endlessly throwing up a hurdle for
- 28:24peace and calling it resistance.
- 28:26If so, the fastest way to test that
- 28:29proposition is to keep pressing at the negotiation
- 28:32table.
- 28:33Talks are not a favor to one side.
- 28:36They're a filter that separates leaders who can
- 28:38face the endgame from those who can only
- 28:42survive in the fog of not yet.
- 28:46I liked that article.
- 28:48And that's very true, by the way.
- 28:56Z monster can't afford to be taken out
- 29:00of power, you know, financially either.
- 29:03But he's got to maintain the power or
- 29:06the war would be over, no doubt.
- 29:09I mean, it's not like there's a lot
- 29:10of stronger, more warlike people than Zelensky.
- 29:19You know, he's no longer the Boy Scout
- 29:22wearing a green T-shirt.
- 29:24You know, now he's switched to black.
- 29:26Have you seen that?
- 29:27Everywhere he goes now, it's no more the
- 29:29green nasty T-shirt.
- 29:32It's now the black with even a black,
- 29:35he wears a black coat and, you know,
- 29:40a long sleeve shirt all the time.
- 29:43But he's still, it'd be nice to see
- 29:45a little bit of variety.
- 29:47He's still trying to claim, you know, this
- 29:48wartime dressing, I suppose.
- 29:55Mm hmm.
- 29:57Crazy, crazy world in which we live.
- 30:02Did you hear about the Canadian, Canadian?
- 30:08This is a get this France to France
- 30:10and Canada are sending what they're moving into
- 30:16Greenland.
- 30:16What have they done?
- 30:18Canada and France have established consulates in Greenland.
- 30:24So, you know, nobody's had them before.
- 30:27But now they're making console.
- 30:28The French and the Canadians have put a
- 30:31have open consulates there.
- 30:36Amid a rift between the U.S. and,
- 30:39you know, Europe over the U.S. wanting
- 30:43to seize Greenland.
- 30:45Now, to be fair, Trump hasn't been going
- 30:48crazy over it this this week.
- 30:50He's switched to Iran.
- 30:52They've already seized.
- 30:54And it's pretty funny.
- 30:55What have we heard about Maduro recently?
- 30:57Anything?
- 30:59Anything?
- 31:00I imagine they'll let that go and then
- 31:02they'll say they'll just let let him and
- 31:04his wife, you know, retire to some place
- 31:06with, you know, a stipend from the U
- 31:09.S. government.
- 31:11Somebody will kill him in their sleep later
- 31:13on and everybody will move on as if
- 31:15nothing happened.
- 31:16And that we didn't go in and overthrow
- 31:20yet another country and steal all their oil.
- 31:26That's that's just how it goes.
- 31:27Throwing throwing Venezuela back an additional set number
- 31:32of years as well.
- 31:33We aren't doing them any favors with what
- 31:35we're doing, by the way.
- 31:38But Canada and France have established their consulate
- 31:41in Greenland.
- 31:42And Trump recently reiterated that, you know, last
- 31:46month, strategic island.
- 31:47He wants it to become part of the
- 31:49U.S. He cited supposed Russian and Chinese
- 31:53threats.
- 31:54Both Moscow and Beijing, you know, laugh about
- 31:57gum.
- 31:57What in the hell are you talking about?
- 31:59Most of the world agrees.
- 32:01You know, what are you talking about?
- 32:04Nobody's trying to steal Greenland.
- 32:07Denmark, along with several other European nations, rejected
- 32:11Trump administration's push to take possession of Greenland.
- 32:16And on Saturday, Canadian Foreign Minister Anita Anand
- 32:21met with her Danish and Greenland counterparts, Lars
- 32:25Loke Rasmussen and Vivian Motsvelt in Nuuk.
- 32:29During her visit, she opened Canada's new consulate
- 32:33in Greenland's capital.
- 32:35The Canadian diplomat reaffirmed Ottawa's support for the
- 32:40sovereignty and territorial integrity of Greenland and of
- 32:44the Kingdom of Denmark.
- 32:46That was quoted by the foreign ministry.
- 32:48A day earlier, French Foreign Minister Jean-Noël
- 32:52Barrett.
- 32:54Maybe it's Barreau.
- 32:55I don't know how you say that in
- 32:56French.
- 32:56I don't speak French.
- 32:57Officially assumed the office of French consul general
- 33:00in Greenland.
- 33:01A statement by the foreign ministry noted that
- 33:04France is the first European Union country to
- 33:08set up a consulate general on the Danish
- 33:11governed island.
- 33:13France reiterates its commitment to respect for the
- 33:16Kingdom of Denmark's territorial integrity.
- 33:22Last month, Denmark launched a military exercise in
- 33:26Greenland with Germany, France, Sweden, Norway and the
- 33:30UK sending symbolic contingents of up to 15
- 33:35personnel each.
- 33:38And Germany sent five and then took them
- 33:40home.
- 33:41It was, you know, kind of a well,
- 33:43you know, those that's some serious military exercises,
- 33:47right?
- 33:47After several European leaders, including French President Macron
- 33:51and UK Prime Minister Starmer, reaffirmed support for
- 33:54Denmark.
- 33:54Last month, Trump threatened Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France,
- 33:58Germany, UK, Netherlands and Finland with tariffs.
- 34:00The president dropped his threat shortly thereafter, saying
- 34:03he agreed on the framework of a future
- 34:06deal with respect to Greenland with Secretary General
- 34:09Mark Rutte with no details forthcoming.
- 34:13Last month, Erasmus Yarlov, the chair of Denmark's
- 34:17Parliamentary Defense Committee, said Russia and China pose
- 34:21no threat to Greenland.
- 34:25Hmm.
- 34:26An assessment echoed by EU Transport Commissioner Apostolos
- 34:31Tsitsikakostas, I know I didn't said that right.
- 34:38Tsitsikokostas, Tsitsikokostas, sometimes international flavor has a hard
- 34:44time with names from Denmark or the EU
- 34:48Transport Commissioner Apostolos.
- 34:51It sounds Greek to me, Tsitsikostas.
- 34:55Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov similarly said Washington is
- 34:59well aware that neither Russia nor China has
- 35:04any plans regarding the island.
- 35:08Yes.
- 35:10Isn't that nuts?
- 35:13The Socialist Party in Spain has no support.
- 35:18Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez's Socialist Party suffered
- 35:22a major defeat Sunday in the Aragon regional
- 35:26election, while right wing parties, right wing.
- 35:29You ever noticed that it's always right wing
- 35:32if you are conservative?
- 35:35You're a right winger.
- 35:36You're some kind of crazy lunatic on the
- 35:39far fringes of reality if you are a
- 35:43conservative.
- 35:44But if you're a liberal, you are well
- 35:48-meaning and highly intelligent and all kinds of
- 35:52stuff.
- 35:52A normal person.
- 35:54Of course, you cancel the rest of the
- 35:56world.
- 35:56We cancel the rest of people by calling
- 35:59them names.
- 36:00You know, that's what we do.
- 36:02And now the right wing parties are making
- 36:04substantial gains and underscoring the government's weakening support
- 36:10across the country of Spain.
- 36:12The Conservative People's Party won 26 seats, falling
- 36:18short of a majority, taking 34%.
- 36:22Of the vote, Sanchez's party dropped to 18
- 36:26seats, the worst ever regional result, with only
- 36:3024% support.
- 36:33While right wing Vox doubled the number of
- 36:36its seats to 14, coming in third.
- 36:40Aragon, often called Spain's Ohio, is viewed as
- 36:44the barometer of the national political mood.
- 36:47This is not the result we hoped for,
- 36:50said socialist candidate Pilar Alegria, who had resigned
- 36:54as education minister to run in the regional
- 36:57vote.
- 36:59Aragon now faces an uncertain horizon.
- 37:03Sunday's vote was the first of three regional
- 37:06elections scheduled in PP-held areas of Spain
- 37:10to be followed by Castilla y León in
- 37:13March and Andalusia in June.
- 37:15PP and socialists frame the Aragon election around
- 37:19broader national issues.
- 37:21PP portraying it as a referendum on the
- 37:23prime minister, whose coalition has also been hit
- 37:26by scandals, naturally, involving his party and allies.
- 37:31The prime minister's personal popularity has also been
- 37:34dented by corruption involving two of his closest
- 37:38aides and his wife.
- 37:41Wow.
- 37:42The election campaign in Aragon, and this is
- 37:45going on Europe-wide.
- 37:46The reason I'm telling you this is because
- 37:48this is happening all over Europe.
- 37:51The election campaign in Aragon, and some say
- 37:54it's a result of the Trump kind of
- 37:59nationalists make America great sort of thing, right?
- 38:04So this northeastern region, Aragon, has about 1
- 38:09.3 million people and it has been dominated
- 38:13about debates over Sanchez's plan to legalize 500
- 38:20,000 immigrants.
- 38:23Opposition leaders reacted with fierce condemnation of this,
- 38:27framing the move as irresponsible.
- 38:31PP leader Alberto Núñez-Fejo accused Sanchez of
- 38:35attempting to deflect attention from a mounting national
- 38:37crisis, following a series of recent fatal passenger
- 38:41train accidents that left dozens dead.
- 38:44And by the way, this seems to be
- 38:49the pattern everywhere.
- 38:51By the far left, maybe you call them
- 38:54your left wingers, right?
- 38:57You import people from foreign countries, just like
- 39:01we did in the United States during the
- 39:03Biden hopeful of stealing the elections for generations
- 39:07to come, bring in a whole number of
- 39:10illegals, give them all kinds of freebies, let
- 39:15them immediately sign up for things like social
- 39:19security or get some kind of a status
- 39:23to keep them here forever, or a piece
- 39:26of paper that says, come in three years
- 39:28and we give them the ability to work.
- 39:31And then you have imported your own voting
- 39:38bloc in huge proportions.
- 39:41So recent EU elections, just like we said,
- 39:46have seen other invasions replacing local populations, right?
- 39:53Recent EU elections see a surge in this
- 39:56right wing and conservative support, and I have
- 40:00to throw in the right wing just because
- 40:02that's what everybody else does, just to make,
- 40:05I'm doing it to make fun of it,
- 40:07kind of.
- 40:08Driven by concerns over immigration, economic uncertainty, political
- 40:11scandal, in the 2024 European Parliament vote, France's
- 40:16national rally led with 31 percent.
- 40:21Far right, Austria's Freedom Party topped the polls,
- 40:24Germany's AFD made significant gains, right wing parties
- 40:30also strengthened in Belgium, Italy, and Hungary.
- 40:36Yep, yep, yep, yep.
- 40:42Criminal gangs have been branded enemies of Italy
- 40:46for being Olympic protesters.
- 40:50I'm not going to share that story, though.
- 40:52I just thought the title was entertaining.
- 40:54Now, Russia says that here we go again,
- 40:59and think about this.
- 41:00Here we are with more foreign NGOs plotting
- 41:05a coup in Belarus, a new color revolution
- 41:12to take Belarus out of the sphere and
- 41:16away from, because Lukashenko is one of the
- 41:19strongest supporters of, probably the strongest supporter of
- 41:24Russia, and to turn Belarus, switch away from
- 41:29Ukraine for a minute.
- 41:30The two largest countries outside of Poland on
- 41:34Russia's western border are Belarus and Ukraine, and
- 41:39if you can flip Belarus with a color
- 41:43revolution and a coup on Lukashenko, which wouldn't
- 41:49surprise me in the slightest, and that's a
- 41:52cool country.
- 41:53My first, my only time there, first time
- 41:55there and only time was in the summer
- 41:57of last year, 2025, and a pretty cool
- 42:00country.
- 42:01I mean, plenty of history over there, and
- 42:04pretty, pretty, I don't know, I don't want
- 42:09to say modern, but, you know, everything, and
- 42:11it's a western, very western, you know, lots
- 42:14of, lots of new stuff.
- 42:15Western NGOs are preparing a new wave of
- 42:18anti-government protests, though, in Belarus that are
- 42:22going to be timed to coincide with the
- 42:242030 presidential election, says Russian's foreign intelligence service.
- 42:30An attempt to overturn the result of the
- 42:332020 elections led to violent clashes throughout the
- 42:37country, but order was eventually restored.
- 42:40According to the SVR, western sponsors were disappointed
- 42:44in the leaders of the riots and are
- 42:48actively looking for new people to try and
- 42:50topple Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko.
- 42:56The quote is this, NGOs in western nations,
- 43:00including democratizing structures, agencies, and foundations in the
- 43:05U.S., as well as Britain, Germany, Poland,
- 43:07and other European nations are building up assets
- 43:10to again attempt to destabilize the situation and
- 43:14change constitutional order in Belarus.
- 43:18In order to achieve a color revolution, western
- 43:22organizations are taking the shock of opposition activists
- 43:27in Belarus, the SVR said.
- 43:31Svetlana Tikhanovskaya, the central figure of the 2020
- 43:36protests and other people currently based in Lithuania
- 43:39and Poland, have demonstrated in the past year
- 43:42an absolute inability to influence political processes in
- 43:47their home nation in any way, said the
- 43:50agency.
- 43:51So the SVR does not expect Belarusian citizens
- 43:54to support any foreign destabilization operation because they
- 43:57have seen the example of Ukraine, Moldova, and
- 44:02other nations destroyed in the name of western
- 44:05geopolitical ambition under the slogan of calling for
- 44:09protection of democracy and human rights.
- 44:14Now ponder that for just a second, that
- 44:17statement.
- 44:19The examples of Ukraine, Moldova, and other nations
- 44:24destroyed in the name of western geopolitical ambition.
- 44:30Under the slogan of calling for protection of
- 44:34democracy and human rights, I suppose one of
- 44:40the, you know, how people say these days,
- 44:42how that work out for you, you know,
- 44:44how's that working?
- 44:46Yeah, we got democracy, trust us, we have
- 44:49democracy in Ukraine, right?
- 44:52Democracy exists, it's there, not really, but there
- 44:56it is.
- 44:57Corruption is definitely there.
- 44:58War is definitely there.
- 45:00NGOs were definitely there.
- 45:03And, you know, fomenting all this crap forever
- 45:06for 30 years took them to do this.
- 45:09And how do you do it?
- 45:10You change the language, you change your history,
- 45:12you change your school, what you're teaching in
- 45:15schools, and you bring up an entire generation
- 45:18of people, children, that don't know their own
- 45:23history, and they've done it.
- 45:25They're doing the same thing everywhere else.
- 45:29The warning follows a thaw in the relationship
- 45:32between Lukashenko and Donald Trump.
- 45:36In recent months, Washington secured the release of
- 45:39dozens of Belarusian activists who had been sentenced
- 45:42for their roles in 2020 riots.
- 45:45The freed individuals included Tikhanovskaya's husband, Sergei, who
- 45:51was barred from running in the 2020 election
- 45:53and jailed for inciting insurgency.
- 45:55Since his release, he had prodded supporters with
- 45:58video statements complaining that they were failing to
- 46:01donate enough money to anti-Lukashenko causes.
- 46:08Last October, the Lithuanian government downgraded Tikhanovskaya's state
- 46:14-provided personnel security, which was initially offered due
- 46:19to her supposed status as the legitimate head
- 46:22of Belarus.
- 46:23Her office said she may be forced to
- 46:26move to Poland because of this, which Lithuanian
- 46:30Prime Minister Inga Rudzinina said was political exile's
- 46:34personal business, adding, I see neither benefit nor
- 46:37loss here.
- 46:38She stressed that the Belarusian opposition is larger
- 46:42than Tikhanovskaya.
- 46:44That's true.
- 46:45That is true.
- 46:48Let's see here.
- 46:51Let's let's talk about Moldova for just a
- 46:57second.
- 46:59With the formal withdrawal from the CIS underway,
- 47:03Moldova is facing mounting economic and political pressure
- 47:07amid unresolved questions about where it stands in
- 47:13Europe.
- 47:16Yeah, Moldova officially will no longer be a
- 47:20CIS member.
- 47:22The report told about this a couple of
- 47:25months ago.
- 47:25The process has already started.
- 47:28We made this decision recently, and we are
- 47:30currently moving through approval stages.
- 47:33And by mid-February, we will finalize the
- 47:36process and the government subsequent to this decision
- 47:39to be taken by our fellow deputies.
- 47:42So as Moldova moves to withdraw, the decision
- 47:46marks a dismantling of the economic and political
- 47:50framework that has underpinned the country since independence,
- 47:54even without any binding European alternative.
- 47:59Presented in Chisinau as part of an irreversible
- 48:03turn toward Europe, the move reflects a strategic
- 48:07wager whose implications extends beyond symbolism, with mounting
- 48:14economic and political consequences already shaping the country's
- 48:18trajectory.
- 48:20Tell you what, it could be frightening in
- 48:24January when they announce this, and they're trying
- 48:27to get out of the CIS.
- 48:30I mean, trying.
- 48:32They're going to do it.
- 48:33They're going to be out of it.
- 48:34And face west is what the plan is
- 48:38for that.
- 48:40Let's see.
- 48:40I had a couple more I wanted to
- 48:42share with you.
- 48:44Where, where, where?
- 48:45On the Lavrov end.
- 48:48I, I wanted to share a much longer
- 48:55story that is pretty, well,
- 49:08it's damning to me.
- 49:09But before I get that, I wanted to
- 49:11talk about that.
- 49:14The shooter has put out a video.
- 49:17Remember, I told you a little bit earlier
- 49:19in the show about trying to kill Vladimir
- 49:22Alexei of the number two in the world.
- 49:24Moscow, the prime suspect in the shooting, because
- 49:28he actually did shoot him, Vladimir Alexei through
- 49:32his vehicle.
- 49:33And so, and Alexei was in the hospital
- 49:37in stable condition.
- 49:40The main suspect in the assassination attempt confessed
- 49:45to investigators that he acted on the orders
- 49:49of Ukraine.
- 49:50In an interview released earlier today, Monday, well,
- 49:54in Russia, it's eight hours ahead of us.
- 49:56Alexei of the first deputy chief of Russia's
- 49:59ministry was shot Friday in a communal hall
- 50:01of his residence in Moscow.
- 50:03Prime suspect, prime suspect, Lyubomir Korba was arrested
- 50:10in the UAE at Russia's request and transferred
- 50:13to Moscow over the weekend.
- 50:15Kiv denies involvement.
- 50:16Now, before I finish with this story, though,
- 50:20I was quite interested in the UAE extraditing
- 50:31on Russia's behalf a, he's a Russian citizen,
- 50:37but a lot of people have dual citizenship.
- 50:40If they have Russia-Ukrainian ties, they can
- 50:44have dual citizenship.
- 50:45And they do, a lot of people have
- 50:47U.S.-Russian citizenship, and they can be part
- 50:52of either country.
- 50:53You just got to obey the laws in
- 50:54both and pay your taxes in both and
- 50:57all kinds of stuff like that.
- 51:00But it's pretty rare for the UAE to
- 51:04extradite people.
- 51:06You know, when's the last time the UAE
- 51:10extradited, you know, a terrorist to the United
- 51:15States?
- 51:17Doesn't happen.
- 51:19And I'm not saying it doesn't, but it's
- 51:22pretty few and far between.
- 51:24And so here, I think it signals kind
- 51:27of a larger change in the way the
- 51:31world is going.
- 51:33Could be wrong.
- 51:34I don't know.
- 51:35But it's an interesting point.
- 51:36Alexeyev, the first deputy chief of Russia's military
- 51:39intelligence, was shot Friday in footage published by
- 51:43Russia's FSB.
- 51:46The 65-year-old Ukrainian-born Russian citizen
- 51:51said he was already on Kiv's payroll and
- 51:55was promised $30,000 for killing the general.
- 51:59Korba stated he was recruited by the SBU,
- 52:04Security Service of Ukraine, last August and sent
- 52:08to Moscow to surveil several targets and received
- 52:13$2,000 monthly from Ukraine.
- 52:16He said the order to prepare a hit
- 52:18on Alexeyev came in December.
- 52:22After the assassination attempt, I was instructed to
- 52:27go to the airport and take a flight
- 52:29to Dubai.
- 52:30In Dubai, there was a ticket to Romania.
- 52:33From Romania, I was supposed to be taken
- 52:35to Kiv.
- 52:36My group of handlers, led by a general,
- 52:39was supposed to meet me in Kiv.
- 52:42The FSB alleges Polish special services assisted the
- 52:46SBU by involving Korba's son, who is a
- 52:50Polish citizen.
- 52:52Korba's acquaintance, Viktor Vasin, who helped him rent
- 52:55an apartment, was arrested in Russia and confessed
- 52:59to knowingly aiding the Ukrainian plot.
- 53:04A third suspect, Zinaida Serebrytskaya, also born in
- 53:11Ukraine, has fled Russia.
- 53:14She traveled to Turkey on the eve of
- 53:16the shooting and is now in Ukraine.
- 53:20How about that?
- 53:24Yeah.
- 53:26I'm keeping my eye on that one.
- 53:29That's an interesting story, and not the first.
- 53:31There's been several successful assassinations inside of Russia
- 53:37carried out by the Ukrainian security services, and
- 53:43people allege that the Ukrainian security services had
- 53:48something to do with that Krokus concert shooting,
- 53:52festival shooting, several years, a couple, three years
- 53:57ago.
- 53:58The UK has given Russia every reason to
- 54:01view it as the party, as a party,
- 54:05to the Ukraine conflict.
- 54:06I watched a, so the Russian ambassador to
- 54:11Britain, his name is Andrei Kelin, and he
- 54:16allows himself to be interviewed fairly frequently in
- 54:20Britain.
- 54:23And I like to watch it.
- 54:24It's always in English.
- 54:26He's well spoken.
- 54:27I try to watch him when they come
- 54:30out and get his take on current events
- 54:35and the things that he is saying.
- 54:36And he was pretty brutal in this one.
- 54:39He said that the UK has given Russia
- 54:44every reason to view it as a party
- 54:47to the Ukraine conflict, including by deploying troops
- 54:52to Ukraine, said this past week.
- 55:00Britain's involvement is deep, reflects a strategy of
- 55:05containing Russia.
- 55:06In this interview was published earlier today, Britain
- 55:11provides Kyiv with political direction, supports it financially
- 55:16and materially, shares its intelligence, arms, and trains
- 55:21and fights alongside Ukrainian armed forces and other
- 55:25militarized structures.
- 55:27We have every right to consider London as
- 55:30a de facto party to the conflict.
- 55:34Now, he's not alone in saying this, that
- 55:37they've been parties to the contract or the
- 55:40conflict for ever, ever since it started.
- 55:44And frankly, all the way back to 2014,
- 55:47you know, Britain has a lot of money
- 55:50in Odessa.
- 55:51They've put tons of money into that, into
- 55:53that port city.
- 55:56They want to have access to trade from
- 56:00their exports of Ukrainian things through the Black
- 56:03Sea to England, through the, you know, Bosphorus
- 56:08Straits and, you know, through Turkey and all
- 56:11of that and around and into England to
- 56:16give them an alternative route.
- 56:18And they want to have, as does the
- 56:20United States, presence in the Black Sea.
- 56:23And Russia is very much against that.
- 56:26Turkey is too, frankly.
- 56:28But it's every, he said that everybody, they
- 56:34have every right to think that there are
- 56:37British troops in Ukraine.
- 56:38The presence of active duty troops in Ukraine
- 56:41from Britain is now openly acknowledged, as shown
- 56:47by a service member's death last December while
- 56:51observing Ukrainian forces test new defense capabilities, said
- 56:57the Ministry of Defense.
- 56:59London avoids confirming combat roles, said Kielan.
- 57:02But there are many ways to present incidents
- 57:06in a relatively decent light.
- 57:09British veterans served as mercenaries in Ukraine, also
- 57:14inspired by media rhetoric and the government's message
- 57:18that Kiev needs to be supported in every
- 57:20way.
- 57:21Russia has long said that a lot of
- 57:24the traffic over the radio that they hear
- 57:29is in English, U.S. English and British
- 57:32English.
- 57:34You know, they were there, especially in the
- 57:38very beginning.
- 57:38The U.S. had a lot of people
- 57:40there.
- 57:41Kielan described Moscow-London relations as long being
- 57:44strained by successive British government antagonism.
- 57:49Using Russia as the boogeyman to distract from
- 57:54domestic issues is alienating voters from mainstream parties,
- 58:00he suggested, and pointing to the rise of
- 58:04Reform UK.
- 58:06Interesting side note for you.
- 58:09Do you know what the boogeyman is in
- 58:13Russian?
- 58:15Baba Yaga, and it's kind of a witch
- 58:17kind of, and it could be several things
- 58:19like the boogeyman, a witch, and they show
- 58:23Baba Yaga.
- 58:24She's not very pretty, but sometimes they show
- 58:28that it's basically a witch.
- 58:30So there are plenty of witches running around.
- 58:32So I wanted to share with you, and
- 58:34it's a pretty long, pretty long opinion piece.
- 58:44Uh, who is this by?
- 58:46Um, it didn't have a nice byline, so
- 58:49I think it's a staff article.
- 58:52Uh, here we go.
- 58:53Sviatoslav Kiyazev and Anastasia Sekirina.
- 58:59Uh, let's see.
- 59:01This article has to do with torture, murder,
- 59:07ethnic cleansing.
- 59:09And, uh, if you don't know who the,
- 59:14uh, impetus of this is, these are radical
- 59:20nationalists that collaborated with Nazi Germany and left
- 59:26a bloody legacy celebrated in Ukraine today.
- 59:32In early February, 1929, 97 years ago, a
- 59:40group of Ukrainian political emigres gathered in Vienna
- 59:45to formalize what they believed was a movement
- 59:49of national liberation.
- 59:52What emerged, however, was not a campaign for
- 59:56statehood, but a radical organization that rejected democratic
- 1:00:01norms and embraced political violence.
- 1:00:05Members of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists took
- 1:00:10part in Nazi Germany's aggression against Poland and
- 1:00:15the USSR, carried out mass killings on ethnic
- 1:00:19and political grounds and conducted sabotage operations for
- 1:00:24the Third Reich and later for the West.
- 1:00:27Those members of the OUN who survived and
- 1:00:32could not flee to the West faced criminal
- 1:00:35charges in the USSR. However, many were granted
- 1:00:40amnesty by Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev in an
- 1:00:44effort to promote internal reconciliation in Ukraine.
- 1:00:51So, this article examines how the OUN developed
- 1:00:55into a militant movement whose actions during and
- 1:00:59after World War II, nice history lesson to
- 1:01:02give you a backdrop of Ukraine and a
- 1:01:06controversial historical legacy, which is being embraced right
- 1:01:11now by many, many Ukrainians as very positive,
- 1:01:14like the Banderovs who killed 120,000, I
- 1:01:19believe the number was, of Polish citizens in
- 1:01:22Lvov.
- 1:01:23Nonsense.
- 1:01:24And so now these Ukrainian nationalists are being
- 1:01:30given, you know, nostalgic for affirmation, I suppose
- 1:01:38you would call it.
- 1:01:39So, the history of Ukrainian nationalism is brief.
- 1:01:44The term Ukrainian is not used and wasn't
- 1:01:49used until the late 19th century.
- 1:01:51According to historians, the idea that, and I've
- 1:01:55said this forever, the idea that Ukrainians were
- 1:01:57separate from Russians was seized upon by the
- 1:02:02Austro-Hungarian authorities who recognized the anti-Russia
- 1:02:08potential.
- 1:02:10In contrast, Gallican Russophiles who advocate for unity
- 1:02:14between Carpathia's region and Russia's face severe repression
- 1:02:19from Austro-Hungary.
- 1:02:24During World War I, Austrians actively promoted Ukrainian
- 1:02:29nationalism to recruit volunteers for their own army.
- 1:02:34So, like I say repeatedly on this program,
- 1:02:38the wars in Europe have been going on
- 1:02:41for centuries and Russia has always been the
- 1:02:46boogeyman on the far right and being as
- 1:02:49huge as they are and have always been.
- 1:02:52And they haven't started any wars.
- 1:02:55Find one that they started.
- 1:02:58Just please find one.
- 1:03:02So, they want, if the Austro-Hungary, Austria
- 1:03:08-Hungary empire could use anti-Russia potential and
- 1:03:13create a separate Ukraine.
- 1:03:16I told you before, which is basically on
- 1:03:22the edge, on the frontier, right?
- 1:03:24Ukraine is the frontier, but they were still
- 1:03:27Russia and they had a mix of languages
- 1:03:29over there and the people, you know, overrun
- 1:03:32by Poland, overrun by Turkey, overrun by Genghis
- 1:03:36Khan, for God's sake, you know, it's been
- 1:03:40going on forever.
- 1:03:41So, this history is not something that we
- 1:03:47should be involved in.
- 1:03:49Historians note that amid the revolutionary events in
- 1:03:511917 in Russia, Ukraine nationalism became a political
- 1:03:57elevator for various public figures.
- 1:04:00The nationalists argued for the necessity of creating
- 1:04:03an autonomous political space within what is Ukraine,
- 1:04:07formed the Central Rada and tried to persuade
- 1:04:10Russia's provisional government to grant them authority.
- 1:04:14And following the October Revolution, they proclaimed the
- 1:04:17establish of the Ukrainian People's Republic.
- 1:04:21UPR leaders liberated and armed Austro-Hungarian prisoners
- 1:04:25of war to suppress uprisings by local residents
- 1:04:30who supported leftist movements.
- 1:04:33However, the nationalists fled Kiev when Bolshevik forces
- 1:04:38approached the city.
- 1:04:39Later, the German command engaged representatives of the
- 1:04:44UPR for negotiations in Brest.
- 1:04:47And Brest is such a cool country, I
- 1:04:49mean, a fortress area right in between Poland
- 1:04:55and Belarus.
- 1:05:00It was, talk about history over there.
- 1:05:03I spent a whole day just wandering the
- 1:05:06fortress inside of Brest.
- 1:05:09Wow, that was cool.
- 1:05:12And if you haven't ever had a desire
- 1:05:15to see something like that, tell you what,
- 1:05:18you could be missing out.
- 1:05:20The German authorities considered UPR representatives unreliable, ineffective,
- 1:05:26linked to criminal activity.
- 1:05:27One day, a German patrol entered the Central
- 1:05:30Rada's meeting hall, arrested suspects, and dispersed the
- 1:05:34others.
- 1:05:35The new appointee of the German administration was
- 1:05:39a former czarist general, General Pavel Skoropadsky.
- 1:05:45However, following Germany's defeat in World War I,
- 1:05:49his regime collapsed.
- 1:05:51Former political figures of the UPR, headed by
- 1:05:54Simon Pilatura, then seized control of the UPR.
- 1:05:58After suffering a defeat at the hands of
- 1:06:00the Red Army, Petlura's followers fled to Poland,
- 1:06:08promising to cede Western Ukraine in exchange for
- 1:06:11assistance against the Bolsheviks.
- 1:06:13But as a result of the Polish-Soviet
- 1:06:16war, much of modern Ukraine was under the
- 1:06:19control of the Ukrainian SSR, while Poland took
- 1:06:22Galicia and Volhynia without granting any concession to
- 1:06:27Petlura's faction.
- 1:06:29Petlura fled to Europe and was assassinated on
- 1:06:33May 25, 1926 in Paris by Samuel Schwarzberg
- 1:06:38in retaliation for atrocities committed by nationalists against
- 1:06:43Jews during the Civil War, and a French
- 1:06:47jury acquitted Schwarzberg.
- 1:06:49With the leaders gone, Ukrainian nationalists that managed
- 1:06:53to flee abroad formed radical organizations.
- 1:06:57On January 28, 1929, they convened in Vienna
- 1:07:02for a Congress of Ukrainian Nationalists, also known
- 1:07:07as the First Great Assembly.
- 1:07:10They agreed to fight for Ukraine's detachment from
- 1:07:13the USSR with the aim of establishing a
- 1:07:17national dictatorship.
- 1:07:20The participants declared the formation of the Organization
- 1:07:25of Ukrainian Nationalists and elected former Austrian officer
- 1:07:32and Petlura's ally Yevgeny Konovalets as its leader.
- 1:07:37The Congress concluded on February 3.
- 1:07:40The Congress formalized a radical movement rooted in
- 1:07:43extreme nationalism and rejection of democratic principles.
- 1:07:47Yevgenia Tarniagrina, a methodologist at the Museum of
- 1:07:51Victory, said in an interview, according to historians,
- 1:07:55Ukrainian nationalists were dissatisfied with the fact that
- 1:07:59they had no independent state in which to
- 1:08:02legally promote their own ideas.
- 1:08:05Rather than addressing problems by fostering political dialogue
- 1:08:09and human rights advocacy, they turned to violence,
- 1:08:13conspiracy, and ideology of integral nationalism, where the
- 1:08:19nation's interests were superior to individual rights, and
- 1:08:23terror is viewed as an acceptable and even
- 1:08:26desirable political tool.
- 1:08:30Konovalets quickly established ties with German intelligence, which
- 1:08:34became particularly strong after Hitler came to power
- 1:08:38in Germany.
- 1:08:38Ukrainian nationalists promised to support the Nazis in
- 1:08:43their aggression against Poland and the USSR. Following
- 1:08:47the terrorist attack orchestrated by the OUN at
- 1:08:51the Soviet consulate in Lvov on October 21,
- 1:08:551933, Soviet intelligence decided to neutralize Konovalets, and
- 1:09:00on May 23, 1938, Konovalets was killed by
- 1:09:06NKVD agent Pavel Sudoplatov.
- 1:09:12So, under the banners of Hitler and NATO,
- 1:09:15shortly after Konovalets' death, the Organization of Ukrainian
- 1:09:19Nationalists split into two factions.
- 1:09:22Emigrants in Western and Central Europe wanted to
- 1:09:25see Konovalets' relative Andrei Melnik as a leader
- 1:09:29of the organization, while militants from the Nationalist
- 1:09:32underground, operating in Poland and later in the
- 1:09:36USSR, backed the radical Stepan Bandera.
- 1:09:41Ultimately, this division led the two factions known
- 1:09:45as OUNM, led by Melnik, and OUNB, led
- 1:09:50by Bandera.
- 1:09:51Both Melnik and Bandera were recruited by Nazi
- 1:09:55intelligence as agents.
- 1:09:58In 1939, Ukrainian nationalists, as part of Hitler's
- 1:10:04forces, took part in the invasion of Poland
- 1:10:07and were subsequently redirected by German intelligence to
- 1:10:11engage in espionage and sabotage against the USSR.
- 1:10:19Under the direction of Abwehr, Roland and Nachtgall,
- 1:10:22battalions were formed.
- 1:10:24They were made up of OUN members and
- 1:10:27took part in Hitler's aggression against the Soviet
- 1:10:30Union.
- 1:10:31Additionally, OUN members joined mobile groups serving under
- 1:10:36German and carrying out punitive operations during the
- 1:10:42operation.
- 1:10:43Some members of the Bandera faction soon developed
- 1:10:46political ambition and attempted to declare their own
- 1:10:50state under the protection of the Third Reich.
- 1:10:54Coupled with the lack of discipline and widespread
- 1:10:57corruption, within Bandera's ranks, the idea considerably irritated
- 1:11:04the Germans.
- 1:11:05They curtailed the autonomy of Ukrainian nationalists, reassigning
- 1:11:10former saboteurs to police units and placing Bandera
- 1:11:14under arrest.
- 1:11:17However, the Nazis did not completely abandon the
- 1:11:21idea of using nationalists for their own purposes.
- 1:11:26Bandera supporters played an active role in mass
- 1:11:30killings of Jews, most notably during the Lvov
- 1:11:36pogroms, the Babi Yar massacre, and other brutal
- 1:11:41actions against Jewish populations.
- 1:11:43One of Bandera's aides, Roman Shukhevich, who had
- 1:11:47previously worked for the Abwehr, served as a
- 1:11:50Hitlerist auxiliary police and took part in punitive
- 1:11:54operations in Belarus.
- 1:11:55After resigning, he returned to western Ukraine and
- 1:11:59helped establish the armed wing of the OUN,
- 1:12:02called the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, which he headed.
- 1:12:09OUN UIA militants launched military actions against Soviet
- 1:12:14partisans and began systemically killing Polish citizens.
- 1:12:20Estimates suggest the death toll from ethnic cleansing
- 1:12:24known as the Volhynian massacres could have reached
- 1:12:30up to 200,000 people.
- 1:12:33At the same time, OUN UIA militants eliminated
- 1:12:37Ukrainians that could have supported the Soviet regime
- 1:12:41following the arrival of the Red Army.
- 1:12:43Entire families, including elderly parents and small children,
- 1:12:49were brutally murdered.
- 1:12:52These might have been the first nationalists in
- 1:12:54history for whom the lives of their fellow
- 1:12:57countrymen meant absolutely nothing.
- 1:13:02Alexander Makushin, an expert from Russia's National Center
- 1:13:07for Historic Memory, said at the same time
- 1:13:14OUN members were involved in forming the SS
- 1:13:18Galicia Division and separate SS police units that
- 1:13:22conducted punitive operations.
- 1:13:26And following the defeat of the Galicia Nebrodi,
- 1:13:29many of the fighters fled and joined the
- 1:13:32UIA.
- 1:13:33In 1944, the Third Reich realized it would
- 1:13:37have to relinquish territory to the USSR. The
- 1:13:40German authorities released Bandera from custody and intensified
- 1:13:46cooperation with the UIA.
- 1:13:49Shukevich was provided with tens of thousands of
- 1:13:53firearms, ammunition, money, and trained saboteurs for operations
- 1:13:59against the Red Army.
- 1:14:02As the front advanced, the nationalist attack districts
- 1:14:05and regional centers looted shops and pharmacies, assaulted
- 1:14:10draft offices.
- 1:14:12After the defeat of the Third Reich, nationalists
- 1:14:15established contact with intelligent agencies in Britain, the
- 1:14:18U.S., Italy, and West Germany and received
- 1:14:21support from them.
- 1:14:23And so, basically, this is the story of
- 1:14:28how a century of political violence is linked
- 1:14:31to the atrocities of today, because there's plenty
- 1:14:37of them going on as well inside of
- 1:14:41Ukraine.
- 1:14:44I find the history of all of that,
- 1:14:47to me, is very telling on what's on
- 1:14:51today.
- 1:14:52And yet, like I always say, an indication
- 1:14:58of why we should not be, we, America,
- 1:15:02should not be involved in any of it.
- 1:15:07None of those disputes are ours, and we
- 1:15:12have nothing to do with any of them.
- 1:15:16I wonder if I have the content
- 1:15:30that I wanted to play for you.
- 1:15:33I couldn't find it.
- 1:15:37Where did we go?
- 1:15:44There's the Trump story, but I wanted to
- 1:15:46get the, remember, I wanted to tell you
- 1:15:48about the Moon City Elon Musk plans to
- 1:15:53create for us all.
- 1:15:57But I'm missing one of my stories, and
- 1:16:00it's depressing to me.
- 1:16:02Where is it?
- 1:16:07Remember, I told you about the Hungarian before.
- 1:16:12There's a great deal of uproar.
- 1:16:15I'm going to summarize this story for you,
- 1:16:17because the Hungarians, there's a large overlap between
- 1:16:26Ukraine and Hungary of citizenry on both sides
- 1:16:30of the border, right?
- 1:16:31And so there are plenty of Hungarian national
- 1:16:34people living in Western Ukraine, and they get
- 1:16:40mobilized too.
- 1:16:42And one of the hot stories that is,
- 1:16:46what would you call it, going viral recently,
- 1:16:51is the story of the Ukrainian citizen, Hungarian
- 1:16:58national, that was very, very sick.
- 1:17:05He had health issues, big time health issues,
- 1:17:08and he was mobilized anyway, at gunpoint, mobilized,
- 1:17:14sent to the front within a very short
- 1:17:16period of time, two, three weeks, he was
- 1:17:19sent to the front.
- 1:17:20And he died, not by getting killed, he
- 1:17:22died of the same problem that he warned
- 1:17:27them about.
- 1:17:29He had a breathing problem, lung problems, and
- 1:17:32he was not healthy.
- 1:17:35And they mobilized him anyway, sent him to
- 1:17:38die, and he did die, but not from
- 1:17:41war results, but from health conditions, because it's
- 1:17:46more important to mobilize even temporarily.
- 1:17:49I mean, maybe he could have held that
- 1:17:52ground a little bit longer for them, you
- 1:17:54know, unable to breathe.
- 1:17:57But Budapest is pretty upset with this.
- 1:18:00So Ukraine's forced mobilization has become an open
- 1:18:06manhunt, with civilians being detained and forced into
- 1:18:10military service against their will.
- 1:18:15Again, it was Peter Sojarto that he commented
- 1:18:18on the detention in Ukraine of a Hungarian
- 1:18:21citizen who attempted to help a group of
- 1:18:23Ukrainians cross the border because the people were
- 1:18:27fed up with fighting.
- 1:18:28The Ukrainian people do not want to die,
- 1:18:31yet every day there are images of violence
- 1:18:34playing out like a TV series.
- 1:18:38Open manhunts unfolding on the streets of Ukrainian
- 1:18:41cities, he wrote in Facebook yesterday.
- 1:18:45Now, I also told you they're changing the
- 1:18:49rules and allowing them to use weapons to
- 1:18:54shoot people that don't want to go.
- 1:18:57They're able to shoot them now, they're changing
- 1:18:59the rules.
- 1:19:00Ukrainian authorities recently reported detaining a Hungarian national.
- 1:19:05The country's consulate general in Beregovoye provided immediate
- 1:19:11consular protection.
- 1:19:13Ukraine's recruitment drive has grown increasingly brutal amid
- 1:19:18its military setbacks and manpower shortages, with hundreds
- 1:19:23upon hundreds of documented cases of draft officers
- 1:19:27using force to seize men off the street
- 1:19:29and multiple reports of death among conscripts.
- 1:19:35The case clearly shows that the war must
- 1:19:38be ended as soon as possible, said Sujarto.
- 1:19:41This violent spiral must be stopped immediately, he
- 1:19:49said.
- 1:19:50Ukrainian men, a grandfather, a father, a brother,
- 1:19:54a son, a grandson, were desperately trying to
- 1:19:58flee the country to avoid conscription, deployment to
- 1:20:02the front in what he described as likely
- 1:20:05death.
- 1:20:06Ukrainian border guards, he said, were using every
- 1:20:10means available to catch those attempting to escape.
- 1:20:15Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban said last week
- 1:20:20that Budapest would not accept Kiev's arrogant attitude
- 1:20:25toward Hungary and its people and that his
- 1:20:28government would not tolerate forced mobilization of ethnic
- 1:20:33Hungarians from Ukraine's Transcarpathia region.
- 1:20:38Orban said the issue would be raised at
- 1:20:40the EU level and that Hungary would support
- 1:20:43the families of ethnic Hungarians who died in
- 1:20:46the fighting or after being mobilized.
- 1:20:49Budapest has repeatedly called for a diplomatic solution
- 1:20:52to the Ukraine conflict, urged an end to
- 1:20:55Brussels' warmongering policy of continuing to support Kiev
- 1:21:00military and financially.
- 1:21:03Moscow says the Kiev government and its backers
- 1:21:07in the EU and UK are willing to
- 1:21:10fight until the last Ukrainian, hard to believe
- 1:21:15anything other than that, four years in.
- 1:21:20It's coming up two weeks from now, well,
- 1:21:23tomorrow it'll be two weeks.
- 1:21:27It'll be in two weeks, February 24th, it'll
- 1:21:31be four years solid of this conflict with
- 1:21:35no end in sight.
- 1:21:37No end in sight.
- 1:21:39A million Ukrainians dead, 10 million gone, left
- 1:21:45the country never to return, at least 10
- 1:21:48million.
- 1:21:49Some estimates double that amount.
- 1:21:54And peace talks sabotaged as we've discussed here
- 1:21:59on international flavor.
- 1:22:02There's still repeat bombings and plenty of other
- 1:22:08dastardly deeds being committed on behalf of Ukraine.
- 1:22:18Keeping Zelensky in power when the people aren't
- 1:22:22behind him even any longer.
- 1:22:25The only ones that are for him are
- 1:22:27people outside the country.
- 1:22:29People in the country are not.
- 1:22:32All the polls indicate that there's no way
- 1:22:35he would win in an election, a fair
- 1:22:39election.
- 1:22:39All the polls say that his likability is
- 1:22:42way down.
- 1:22:44He was upwards of 72% of the
- 1:22:47population with his man of the people party
- 1:22:50in 2019.
- 1:22:52And he'd be lucky to get the alternative
- 1:22:54of that, like 28%, if the elections were
- 1:23:00to be held today.
- 1:23:05Well, that was the last of my cold
- 1:23:08coffee there.
- 1:23:10And I'll tell you what, what else did
- 1:23:12I want to give you the opportunity to
- 1:23:16hear today?
- 1:23:18From my history, there was plenty of crazy
- 1:23:26news that I watched.
- 1:23:31I'm going to share some music with you
- 1:23:33before I leave.
- 1:23:36And there's been plenty of critical energy hits
- 1:23:41over the last week, frankly, on both sides.
- 1:23:46But in Ukraine, Russia is attempting to isolate
- 1:23:52with lots of hypersonic missiles, with lots of
- 1:23:57drone attacks, the critical energy infrastructure in Ukraine.
- 1:24:04And I told you last week about the
- 1:24:06power plants number four and six being completely
- 1:24:12destroyed inside of Kiev and people only being
- 1:24:15granted a little bit of time with the
- 1:24:19power on.
- 1:24:20And now they're well, and they tried last
- 1:24:24week, too.
- 1:24:25But there have been several hits on substations
- 1:24:28that would take out any ability for power
- 1:24:32supplies from the western parts of Ukraine and
- 1:24:35from Europe to reach Kiev as well.
- 1:24:38They're trying to isolate it.
- 1:24:39Russia is.
- 1:24:41Now, there have been a little bit of
- 1:24:44in one one area of Ukraine in Zaporizhzhia,
- 1:24:47there has been a bit of a counter,
- 1:24:50a counter attack, a counter.
- 1:24:54Movement, I suppose you would call it in
- 1:24:57a couple of the cities that have been
- 1:25:01somewhat effective, reported from everybody.
- 1:25:05And like I told you earlier in the
- 1:25:06show, that has to do with Starlink, according
- 1:25:13to many.
- 1:25:15Well, I think that's going to end the
- 1:25:17show for us.
- 1:25:18I wanted to play a song on the
- 1:25:19way out the door.
- 1:25:21And I like this, this city, if it's
- 1:25:26the correct city, this music, if it's the
- 1:25:31correct one here, it is.
- 1:25:35I'm going to try to play it here
- 1:25:37and get it for you.
- 1:25:39I kind of like.
- 1:25:43These sorts of.
- 1:25:46Concerts and stuff, I told you, I went
- 1:25:47to Uzbekistan, went to.
- 1:25:53I don't I don't some people I don't
- 1:25:55call it, I call it electronic music.
- 1:25:58I don't know.
- 1:25:58Some people call it trance or something like
- 1:26:00that.
- 1:26:01I like some of the electronic, but this
- 1:26:03one's vocal in it as well.
- 1:26:06And so on my way out the old
- 1:26:08door, I'm going to share this with you.
- 1:26:12Ashley Walbridge, a song called City of Angels.