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Talking Minnesota Hockey with Tom Holler · Sports Done Wright w/ Vince Wright

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  Speaker 2: because we're gonna get right into it here. Like I say,
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  Speaker 2: it's summer, it's hot outside and humid, Let's talk hockey.
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  Speaker 2: And with that, we got old college friend of mine,
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  Speaker 2: Tom Holler. He is the co host of the Let's
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  Speaker 2: Play Hockey podcast and you can find that on YouTube.
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  Speaker 2: He is a co host with mister Brian Bonnen mister
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  Speaker 2: Hoby Baker Winner there for the Gophers way back in
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  Speaker 2: the day, and they do a really good job. So
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  Speaker 2: I ran into Tom at Tommy Kramer's house the signing
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  Speaker 2: that I was at last month and I hadn't seen
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  Speaker 2: Tom in years, and you know, we caught up exchange
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  Speaker 2: numbers and he is on the show tonight to talk hockey.
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  Speaker 2: it because we got Tom on for about forty forty
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  Speaker 2: one minutes, so let's just get to it. Here we
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  Speaker 2: are talking hockey.
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  Speaker 5: You wanted it, you got it.
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  Speaker 2: On the Sports Done Right Podcast. I am Vince Right
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  Speaker 2: to Sports Governor. And here we go with Tom Holler
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  Speaker 2: of the Let's Play Hockey Podcast. All right, people, what's
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  Speaker 2: going on? Vince Right, Sports Governor, Sports Done Right Podcast
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  Speaker 2: tonight tonight, My friends, this guest we go back. Sheez
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  Speaker 2: Man thirty years thirty five something weird like that exactly,
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  Speaker 2: Tom Holler, Ladies and gentlemen. He is co host of
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  Speaker 2: the Let's Play Hockey podcast. Check him out on YouTube
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  Speaker 2: over there with mister Brian Bonden, former Hobie Baker Award
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  Speaker 2: winner and hey me and town. Like I said, go
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  Speaker 2: way back. He was friends with my ex wife and
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  Speaker 2: another group of friends down there with Ona States. Shout
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  Speaker 2: out to the Warrior Nation. There you go, exactly, and Tom,
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  Speaker 2: what's been going on?
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  Speaker 6: My man?
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  Speaker 2: Good to see you, Good to.
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  Speaker 5: See you of any thanks for the invite.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, hey there we go. All right, Hey, well
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  Speaker 2: let's let's talk hockey. So Minnesota Wild coming off the playoff,
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  Speaker 2: you know, finally got passed the first round, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of excitement going in, you know, and I know I'm
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  Speaker 2: kind of playing catch up here, but I really wanted
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  Speaker 2: to get your thoughts kind of that end of the season,
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  Speaker 2: how it all went down, the disappointment of losing that
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  Speaker 2: second round series when you know, obviously the state was
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  Speaker 2: on fire. But you know, what were your thoughts? What
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  Speaker 2: did you see in that last series?
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  Speaker 7: Well, you know, the Avalanche won the President's Cup for
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  Speaker 7: a reason. They've got McKinnon, mccarr, They've got the depth.
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  Speaker 5: They go three four.
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  Speaker 7: Lines deep, and that real separator, you know, is the
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  Speaker 7: depth when you get scoring in that third and fourth line,
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  Speaker 7: that separates everything else because your top lines and their
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  Speaker 7: top lines you can kind of cancel each other out.
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  Speaker 7: The Wall of Saint Paul, who I call Pink Floyd
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  Speaker 7: had a great run and that's another equalizer. But you know,
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  Speaker 7: the Avalanche just had just a little bit better depth,
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  Speaker 7: and they had an easier time in the first round.
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  Speaker 7: I think we were obviously without Eck and without Brodean,
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  Speaker 7: we struggled because your defensive structure is just not the
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  Speaker 7: same without those two stalwarts, right, and that that really
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  Speaker 7: hurt us because we were exposed and third and fourth
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  Speaker 7: liners are now playing first and second line. And I
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  Speaker 7: think mccarren, much as we liked his edition last year
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  Speaker 7: and glad that he resigned, he's not a second line center.
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  Speaker 7: And I think in that fourth and fifth game he
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  Speaker 7: was playing second line center, and that's just that's not
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  Speaker 7: going to work, my friend. So we ended up out physical, outscored, outclassed.
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  Speaker 7: It was great to get that monkey off our back.
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  Speaker 7: You know how it is here in Minnesota. We take
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  Speaker 7: these little victories and get excited because it's what it's
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  Speaker 7: what we got.
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  Speaker 5: So it was fun. It was a great run.
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  Speaker 7: This team has got a great young core, Boldie Capriso,
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  Speaker 7: who I still think is young, Hughes and he will resign.
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  Speaker 7: We'll get to that in a minute. Faber, all those guys.
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  Speaker 7: We've got the core. We just got to get the
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  Speaker 7: right depth. And I think you've seen coming out of
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  Speaker 7: that Colorado series I think Billy g Wild general manager,
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  Speaker 7: really took a look at some of the veterans who
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  Speaker 7: were older, a little bit slower, not as effective.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of where I was going with it, because
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  Speaker 2: there's been talk of a youth movement here with the Wild.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, and that probably should have started two three years ago,
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  Speaker 7: to be honest. But Billy's very loyal to his veterans.
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  Speaker 5: You got, you got to give him that.
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  Speaker 7: But sometimes you can overdo that loyalty a little bit,
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  Speaker 7: of course, because they're just and you know, you don't
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  Speaker 7: need to sign guys for five and six years. You
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  Speaker 7: can sign guys for three. And if they're looking for
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  Speaker 7: that much term and they're already thirty four to thirty five,
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  Speaker 7: maybe it's time to part weiys, Vinnie.
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  Speaker 2: No matter how hard it is, it's a business. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, I just think, right, you know it, obviously
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  Speaker 2: you're getting past the first round, and you know that
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  Speaker 2: was such a high for Wild fans, and then just
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  Speaker 2: the way it went down with Colorado, and I get it.
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  Speaker 2: It's Colorado, man. I mean, there's in a sense, there's
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  Speaker 2: no shame to lose into the Avalanche. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: state of hockey, you know the whole thing. Man, It's
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  Speaker 2: just like the state of Hockey hasn't done shit in
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  Speaker 2: a minute.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 7: Well you know what, it's funny you bring that up,
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  Speaker 7: but I'm glad you did. Then term state of hockey.
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  Speaker 7: So you know, I'm not the guy who's gonna blow
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  Speaker 7: the sunshine and walk right, but I will give you
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  Speaker 7: the umbrella so that you can block out the sun
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  Speaker 7: or you can protect yourself from the rain.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 5: All right, here's the deal on the state of hockey.
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  Speaker 7: It's a self moniker. We all embrace it because well
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  Speaker 7: we're here. But the truth of the matter is, my friend,
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  Speaker 7: we're the state of youth hockey.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Tom Hollow, thank you, thank you, And I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to jump on this after you're done, but keep going,
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  Speaker 2: my friend, finishing.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: So when you look at Massachusetts and Michigan and Colorado,
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  Speaker 7: we're actually when you talk about college titles and pro titles,
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  Speaker 7: we're smoked, of course by by Colorado, Michigan, Massachusetts, we're
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  Speaker 7: totally smoked. But they can't compete with us in terms
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  Speaker 7: of youth hockey. You know, associations in Minnesota and high
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  Speaker 7: school hockey here second to none. The tournament's the best,
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  Speaker 7: probably in the world at the youth level, and we
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  Speaker 7: turn out more pros than anybody else by double right consistently.
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  Speaker 7: So we're the state of youth hockey. But in reality
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  Speaker 7: we're about fourth place, right.
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  Speaker 2: And that's real cool that you mentioned youth hockey because
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people talk to me and the sports
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  Speaker 2: governor Vince right here on the Sports Done Right podcast
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  Speaker 2: about being a little bit of a Minnesota hockey troll,
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  Speaker 2: because you know, I am a black Hawks fan. Originally
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  Speaker 2: I am, you know, I'm from Chicago. I was a
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  Speaker 2: huge North Stars fan, but then they left, so yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I went to my second favorite team. Been with them
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  Speaker 2: ever since. You know, as long as the Hawks ain't
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  Speaker 2: doing nothing, I'm down. I pulled for the while pull
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  Speaker 2: for their fans. But a story when I was a kid,
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  Speaker 2: because you speak of Massachusetts, my aunt used to work
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  Speaker 2: at UMass at Amherst. He actually became an associate dean
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  Speaker 2: there ultimately. But I would go out there, you know
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  Speaker 2: for a few summers, and all my friends out there
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  Speaker 2: that I made, you know, during the summer waking up
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  Speaker 2: at five am for what hockey practice? Sure in massa
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  Speaker 2: right in Massachusett. So then I come back home and
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking to my Minnesota friends, and you know, hey,
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  Speaker 2: if you don't play hockey in Minnesota, it just it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't count, and this and that, and I'm like, but
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  Speaker 2: they're doing the same thing you're doing, and blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 2: And then obviously we get into Hockey East and you know,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they got a lot of titles from that
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  Speaker 2: region of the country as well. But sure, I'm glad
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  Speaker 2: you brought up that distinction for youth hockey and Minnesota
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  Speaker 2: because you have Minnesota. Nothing tops it.
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  Speaker 7: So right, I mean, you know the golfers, it's been
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  Speaker 7: twenty Gopher men's hockey, yes, yeah, twenty three years. And
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  Speaker 7: pro hockey here, well, yeah, you know, a couple.
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  Speaker 5: Of nice runs eighty one and ninety.
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  Speaker 2: It was ninety one.
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  Speaker 5: Pittsburgh, yeah, Pittsburgh Islanders was eighty one. We got smoked
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  Speaker 5: and oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, surprise we even got that one victory in that series.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah right.
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  Speaker 7: You know, the Stars then were good, but they were
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  Speaker 7: kind of the Vikings in the seventies, really good team,
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  Speaker 7: but you end up playing a Juggernaut Dolphins the Steel Curtain.
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  Speaker 2: Right, right, And that's you know, obviously for folks, don't
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  Speaker 2: that don't know the New York Islanders as well. You
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  Speaker 2: may not think much of them now. Back then they
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  Speaker 2: rattled off for straight Stanley Cups, they did, you know,
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  Speaker 2: so you know, and then the Stars were in that run.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, hey, at least they got there.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, for what it's worth, isn't that the Minnesota thing
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  Speaker 7: to say exactly we got there?
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  Speaker 2: But so you know, let's just kind of keep it
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  Speaker 2: going here with Gopher hockey before we get back in
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  Speaker 2: with the wild Yeah, because well, Gopher hockey, college sports
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  Speaker 2: in general, obviously in il Is everything is just in
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  Speaker 2: such a different place with players that can just pop
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  Speaker 2: in here over here? Are they going over to juniors?
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  Speaker 3: This?
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  Speaker 2: And what's going on? Talk to us a little bit
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  Speaker 2: about college hockey and the Gophers in particular. I mean
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  Speaker 2: they're in the state with what five other Division one
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  Speaker 2: teams or something like that, the Saint the olden days
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  Speaker 2: where it was just them and und so along with
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  Speaker 2: all these other teams. You know, it's just a different times.
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  Speaker 2: You got to pay everybody, right, you.
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  Speaker 7: Know, It's it's such a change. It's the landscape is
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  Speaker 7: it's changing by the month, to be honest. Sure, you know,
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  Speaker 7: how do I say this. I'm all for nostalgia. I'm
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  Speaker 7: all for the old school. But it's twenty twenty six
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  Speaker 7: and things are moving so fast. But I still have
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  Speaker 7: a lot of friends, God bless them that still pine
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  Speaker 7: for the W'SA and they hate the Big ten. And
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  Speaker 7: I get it, of course, you know, so do I.
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  Speaker 7: But it's like, guys, how many years ago is this now? Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: let's turn the page, let's let's let it go. And
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  Speaker 7: you have to adjust to that mindset of we got
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  Speaker 7: to get the best kids in Minnesota for the Gophers.
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  Speaker 7: That world is gone and it's been gone for years
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  Speaker 7: and years and Bob Motsco good guy, good coach, championship pedigree.
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  Speaker 5: Not quite there. So you have to expand your borders
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  Speaker 5: in recruiting.
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  Speaker 7: Selling, because that's what it is now with the nil
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  Speaker 7: to international borders. Canadians and last, you know, officially two
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  Speaker 7: years ago now they opened up Canadians and because of
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  Speaker 7: its regional rules, the WHL, which is the Western Hockey
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  Speaker 7: League under the umbrella of the CCHL, and there's three
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  Speaker 7: leagues of that CHL OHL Ontario Hockey League, and then
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  Speaker 7: the q which is the QNJHL Quebec.
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  Speaker 5: Major Junior Hockey League, Oh boy.
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  Speaker 7: And each of those three leagues is basically twenty teams
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  Speaker 7: for sixty teams total. They've been around for decades and decades.
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  Speaker 7: They're a step above the USHL, which is what we
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  Speaker 7: know locally North Dakota, South Dakota, Iowa, predominantly Wisconsin, and Michigan.
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  Speaker 7: And so you're pulling from all those places now. And
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  Speaker 7: the Canadian kids can go play in the DUB and
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  Speaker 7: still go to the NCAA, and they used to not
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  Speaker 7: be able to do that. So and now you're pulling
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  Speaker 7: in a lot more Europeans now. And there's a certain
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  Speaker 7: style of play in Sweden, Finland. And I'm telling you, brother,
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  Speaker 7: right now, if you want a worker, if you want
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  Speaker 7: a third line, fourth line worker bee who just plays
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  Speaker 7: his role and guts it out and leaves it on
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  Speaker 7: the ice Chechia, you're pulling those kids left and right
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  Speaker 7: because all they do is work, work, work, interesting, They
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  Speaker 7: grind away. So it's it's a big world out there.
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  Speaker 7: The competition's even more than its intense and it's ever been.
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  Speaker 7: And you really start to study all the multi tiered
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  Speaker 7: levels from youth to juniors to major junior to the
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  Speaker 7: Ahl to the NHL. So it's a competitive landscape. Denver
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  Speaker 7: does it very well. Michigan, as you can guess, yeah, EBU,
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  Speaker 7: Michigan State. They got the big money, they got the
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  Speaker 7: big athletic departments with the big finances.
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  Speaker 5: The Gophers are well the lower middle of the pack
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  Speaker 5: in that regard.
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  Speaker 2: And that's right, and that's very interesting because again state
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  Speaker 2: of hockey. You know, hockey so important here. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: last year it was really the first season I noticed
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  Speaker 2: in a while where there was just really not a
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to say not a lot of interest
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  Speaker 2: in Gopher hockey, but it was just on the back
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  Speaker 2: burners for a lot of people. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 2: whether you're you're turning on the sports you know cast.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, no, you know, nobody was just really vibing
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  Speaker 2: with the hockey. And now I get it, the Gophers
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  Speaker 2: didn't give us a reason to really vibe last season,
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  Speaker 2: But I just thought it was very interesting because Gopher hockey,
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  Speaker 2: obviously in our area, is so important and last year
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  Speaker 2: it was just kind of an afterthought.
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  Speaker 7: So you know, it's it's part of that Minnesota malaise, right,
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  Speaker 7: It's like we haven't had the title run we sniff
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  Speaker 7: a conference title here and there, and I'm talking college
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  Speaker 7: or Prora. Really, the women do it right right there's there.
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  Speaker 7: It's like whether it's the Links or the Gopher women's
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  Speaker 7: team hockey team, the pro women at the p w
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  Speaker 7: h L, the Frost, the Dallas get it done. You know,
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  Speaker 7: they hire the right gms, they draft well, they get
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  Speaker 7: it done. Dude, they succeed. Why is it so hard
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  Speaker 7: on the men's side.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, that's the question.
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  Speaker 5: I mean that Hartman cursed us before he passed.
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  Speaker 2: I think, all right again, we got Tom Holler joining
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  Speaker 2: us here on the sports done right, folks, we are
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  Speaker 2: talking hockey. I mean, why not ninety degrees outside humidity
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  Speaker 2: middle of July. What's better to do than hit up
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  Speaker 2: a thh and talk a little puck. So let me
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  Speaker 2: ask you this before we get into the pro side
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  Speaker 2: here and talk about the Wild in their offseason and whatnot.
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  Speaker 2: For the Minnesota Gophers, what jeez, what does success look
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  Speaker 2: like next season? Because honestly, I don't know. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I haven't really done a deep dive on the team.
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  Speaker 2: You know who's on there. Obviously, we got a new
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  Speaker 2: coach in play, so there's all kinds of things. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, there is a lot of pressure with this job, Tommy,
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  Speaker 2: So what does success look like for this team next year?
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  Speaker 7: In your opinion, Well, you've got to put last year
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  Speaker 7: behind you. You've got to move on to the new coach.
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  Speaker 7: Brett Larson Saint Cloud State, good guy. And what I'm
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  Speaker 7: hearing on the street and at the rinks, which means
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  Speaker 7: bray Mar for me, there's a camaraderie already building.
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  Speaker 5: With our young Gophers.
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  Speaker 7: And there's kids that have played for Larson that are
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  Speaker 7: with the Gophers now that are showing these guys.
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  Speaker 5: So you know, last year they lost four NHL players
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  Speaker 5: the league.
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  Speaker 7: Right snugger Rude it was good to go, but he
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  Speaker 7: would have been a senior, but he was ready to go.
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  Speaker 7: He had a slight injury with his hand, you know,
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  Speaker 7: mid season, but he had a good year.
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  Speaker 5: He did very well.
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: And uh, your guy with the Blackhawks ended up having
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: played what half the year and half the year the
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: center Oliver Moore, right, But there was the defenseman.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: That went to the Blackhawks, right, and.
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: And the Matthew Wood who went to Nashville. I didn't
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: think they were ready to go. I thought they could
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: have used one more year. Now you bring those guys back, right,
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: your season's a little different and your lines are a
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: little different, even Oliver Moore, I mean last year, I
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: hope it was an aberration. You lost a lot of
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: talent and a third of your team were freshmen. You
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: had eight freshmen.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Tom, let me stop you right there is I think
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: you just hit on something and this was actually going
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: to be my next question.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: Did the Gophers do as good as they could have
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: done last year? But we just expect so.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Much more because I mean, listen to what you just said. Now,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm glad you brought it up, because by
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: the way, I totally spaced that. You know, four NHL
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: quality players is saying something when they just up and
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: leave your team as well, So was last year's team
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: maybe as did they do as good as you know
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: they could have done or maybe should.
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: Have done, or with those off they were competitive when
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: they wanted to be and that ultimate sign of a
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: bit of a rudderless ship internally with the players. You've
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: got the coach, you've got the system, you've got decent
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: assistant coaches for sure, but you're young. You don't have
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: a premiere shutdown goalie like the Michigan's Michigan States do
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: Denver and you're you're just you know, eight freshmen and
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: they all played heavy minutes because of those four departures,
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: and it was a little bit rough. But the Gophers.
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: There's no reason for the Gophers not to be even
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: if they're, you know, a four seed and they're fifteen
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: sixteenth ranked. You gotta be making the tournament in a
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: down year. Yes, Okay, that's the benchmark. Okay, you didn't
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: win the Big Ten. You've won it twice as much
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: as anyone else has. If I'm not mistaken, fine, but
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: you gotta make the tournament and you got to at
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: least be there. That's the benchmark. In a year, even
• 23:30
  Speaker 7: in a year of turnover departures youth, you got to
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: make the tournament.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: Barnol's no excuse. Okay.
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: So they've got a lot of good players coming in.
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: They've got really good transfers. They've got an All American
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: defenseman for Mankato State kid out of Stillwater defenseman Evan
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: murr Is coming in.
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: They've got Austin Bernevik.
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: He's a score from Saint Claude State six four to ten,
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: he's an old Tatino Grace kid.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: Out of blame.
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: They picked up one of the best defensemen out of
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: the w h L from Everett who finished second in
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: the HL, Terrence Smith.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: Six.
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: They've got some good talent coming in. I was just
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: gonna say, yeah, so, uh, goalie a little bit of
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: a question mark. We'll see how that goes. But I'm
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: excited for the year ahead. I think they're gonna be good.
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: I think they'll be top five to six in the country.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: Oh. Ok, and Wyatt Cullen who went in the first round,
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: him and him and Brooks Cullen are coming in and
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: I think are gonna do really really well.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Nice all right, So let's turn in here to the wild.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: You we start off with the wild. Let's get back
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: to them here. So Tom, let me ask you, what
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: is your biggest take from this draft. It was kind
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: of a unique draft. You know, while got started a
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: little late, but you know, give a short review on
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: the picks that they made and how you anticipate them
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: fitting in next year.
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: So they traded the first and second round picks away,
• 25:20
  Speaker 7: so they only had five. They had five picks, but
• 25:23
  Speaker 7: none in the first and second round. Then through Osmosis.
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: They traded up, traded up again. Those five picks became
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: three picks, so they had a centerman, a right winger,
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: and a goalie, each one of them positions of need.
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: A centerman. And all these guys have.
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: Size, by the way, so that's something new for us
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: because we usually draft out of the Lollipop Guild.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: So the first was a centerman, Adam Anderson from Sweden
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: six FO. He's a third fourth line, shutdown centerman, a
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: decent two way player, but he's a physical presence.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: He's a grinder. He's kind of nick.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: Sorry, Marcus Felino. If Marcus Fellino was a centerman, that's
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: their first pick. Adam Anderson not a Sweden.
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: He's probably three years away though. Okay, so these are
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: long term depth players.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: The second player was a Caden Lemire.
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: He's a right winger and he was from Prince George
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: out of the whl uh six four.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, big dude.
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: He got a little bit more scoring in him, but
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: he's not a dynamics scorer by any means. He's another
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: third fourth line grinder with size. Gotta work on his
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: foot speed a little bit, but he's a big kick
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: that likes to get down that front block goalie and
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: just play that bumper position on the power play, right,
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: And so he's he's going to be a worker for them.
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: But again he might be three four years away.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know exactly, but we need that, we need
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: some depth and looks exactly.
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: The goalie they took is a kid out of Chechia, right,
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: and this kid is uh six eight two. I mean
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: he's a monster, he said right now for his size,
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: but his laterals and his updowns have a ways to go.
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: He needs to get a little bit quicker. But he's
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: a competitor. He does really well internationally in the big
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: tournaments and uh, you know, goalies, my god, you ever
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: know how long their incubation period is going to last?
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: And can they keep it up here straight for the
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: long haul? But intriguing prospects.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, he's the draft.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: I'd give it a C plus B minus.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, sounds good. Let me ask you this talking about
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Minnesota while kind of going back to the playoffs there
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: number ninety seven, the legend himself, Carill, what were your thoughts?
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Did he yet disappointing in the playoffs? You know, kind
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: of hit and miss a little bit there. What were
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: your thoughts on number ninety seven, because I mean, you know,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: you franchise.
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: So you know Cariill needs help and he needs some
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: size on his line, and I fear that we're going
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: to see a lot of the same because he needs that.
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: You know, at some point, the Wild have to stop
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: the experimenting of dropping Boldy down second line.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: You have to.
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: And in a perfect world, if the Wild had that
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: depth right that we talk about, you want to have
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: Carrill left wing. You want to one seed that we
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: just don't have yet. Right, but right now it's Carill
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: at left, it's Eck at center, and you want to
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: have Boldy on right wing.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: Now that's the first line, right, absolutely, but we.
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: Always drop Boldy down to balance out the second line,
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: so it makes things tougher for Carill. But that said,
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: until midway through that Avalanche series, Carrill was top four
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: in NHL scoring. They weren't goals per se, they weren't
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: the highlight reels where he's doing the mohawk around the
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: rink the offensive zone, but he was dishing a lot
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: of assists. He was playing a good two way game,
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: and it was a little bit misleading that he wasn't contributing.
• 30:08
  Speaker 7: That said you expected more goals, game winning goals, and
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: that Colorado series those last two three games rough.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: Goal, Yeah, of course, yeah, but you're not wrong. It
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: was a rough goal. But it's a rough goal for everybody.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Let me ask you this, go ahead finish tom he.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: Had no ec right, he really missed him a lot.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Let me ask you this, what would Tom
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Hollerd do? What was you know, if if there's one
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: more move to be made out there by the Minnesota
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: while Tommy, what would you do? What are you what
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: are you looking to do right now? Yeah?
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: Can I get some more cap space back? So they're
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: down to one point one million in cap? I mean wow,
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: barring a major train and relinquishing assets to clear cap
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: to bring in a Larkin or whomever. Really they're they're
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: at a cap point where when you're at one million,
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: one point one you just leave it be and you
• 31:15
  Speaker 7: just roll with it because you're gonna have to have
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: that money for a call up, send downs two way,
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: one way, this that you got to have that money
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: to play with during the season. That at this point
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: I would I would let go of the Dylan Larkin sweepstakes.
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: I don't think Detroit general manager Steve Eiserman's gonna deal
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: him at all. He has five years left on his contract.
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: So this entitlement of I'm done. Dude, you're from Michigan,
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: you're a Michigan will Green, Right, you play for Detroit.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: What are you doing here?
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Exactly?
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: So I don't think Iman's going to give him away.
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: If we were to give away what you know Ierman wants,
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: he came out and said boldie or forget it. So
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: it speaks a little bit to some of our up
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: and comers, and then we hope pan out. Eiserman doesn't
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: think there's enough there. And if you let you're off
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: goal and strammle Go and another pick. Yeah, what you're
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: getting back, you're letting too much out me.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: I stay put.
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: I hit the road with what we got, and we
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: see where we're at at the trade deadline. See who's healthy,
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: see who's not. Make a move there. Regroup next year
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: because you'll have a number one pick in twenty seven
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: and you're gonna have, from what I'm reading, close to
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: thirty five million in cap space next July first, twenty
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: twenty seven.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Right, let me ask you this, and we got a
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: few more minutes here with Tom Holler Let's Play Hockey
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: co hosts on YouTube. Let's talk about the goalie the
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: goalie situation here, because we've kind of gone through this
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: a lot here in recent memory.
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: Where the while, you know, they get these hot goalies
• 33:07
  Speaker 8: out of you know, nowhere whatever, you know, all of
• 33:10
  Speaker 8: a sudden they all become the walls of Saint Paul,
• 33:13
  Speaker 8: you know, I mean, we can go back a few
• 33:14
  Speaker 8: years here and then well, that's what I'm saying, you know,
• 33:20
  Speaker 8: I mean, and he was the key example because when
• 33:24
  Speaker 8: he started his run, nobody was getting anything past dudes, right,
• 33:29
  Speaker 8: and yet what do we have.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: To show for that?
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: You know, one and done well exactly, And that's the
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: That's where I'm going with this, man.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, we had it this year earlier this season,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: both of these guys were impenetrable. Man, Nobody was getting
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: nothing past either one of these guys. Obviously, the playoffs come,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: you gotta gotta kind of roll with one there didn't
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: kind of work out. You made the switch that didn't
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: work out to bring in your regular guys. What's going
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: on with the wild goalie situation? And will both of
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: these guys be here next year?
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: Goalies are goalies. It's a finiky The streaky deal whilst
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: really impressed me throughout the year. When he came up
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: from Iowa, it's like, well he struggled in Iowa. Well yeah,
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: because Iowa struggles no structure in front of him and
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: and no scoring. So you know, he's got scoring, he's
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: got defensive structure. He did really well and you know,
• 34:42
  Speaker 7: and then he had that one bad game where he
• 34:45
  Speaker 7: got shelled, and and that happens to every goalie.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: Look at Florida, they just traded Bobrovski multi as a
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: trophy winner to Toronto, so it it.
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: Comes to them all.
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: But now Gustafson is hurt and is having hip surgery,
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: which is not good. That's not a good sign. He's
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: out till mid November. So the Wild signed a second
• 35:14
  Speaker 7: goalie to backup Waalstat, Calvin Picard. He's a depth fill.
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: When Gus gets back healthy, Picard goes to Iowa. Poor guy,
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: and uh, you're gonna roll with the Walstet as your
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: number one, even though their salaries are reversed.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: Walstet's the guy. He really truly is, I believe.
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: But you know a friend of mine who's a goalie
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: instructor and specializes in off ice training, he's got an
• 35:46
  Speaker 7: approach of you just never know what these guys until
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: you prove it in the playoffs year upon year, like
• 35:57
  Speaker 7: an underrated goalie like a Jordan Binnnington in but the
• 36:00
  Speaker 7: guy's money in international events and he was money for
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: the Blues how many times. That's when you prove it.
• 36:09
  Speaker 7: So we're not there yet. You're right, but I think
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: both both Gusta Sin and Walls that are with the
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: Wild this year. Gustavson's got a you know, I think
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: four more years on his contract at six point six
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: point sev.
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 36:30
  Speaker 7: And Wallstatt is a next July first will be a
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: restricted free agent. So it'll be interesting. I my crystal
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: ball says, at some point next year, trade deadline or
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: next summer, I think we're gonna trade Gusta Sin to
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: like Edmonton. Okay, like that, Maybe that's really a goalie
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: away perhaps.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Uh okay, interesting? Interesting? All right, Well let me Tom,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: let me kind of wrap it up here, because you know,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: we talked state of hockey, Minnesota hockey, and that's what
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: this show was about. But one thing that I wanted
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: to pick your mind about was just kind of the
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: growth of the league. I mean, you know how many
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Stanley Cups has the state of Florida one recently?
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: A four.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Four in North Carolina eight years.
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, here's what's ironic. I know where you're headed.
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: It's got two. Florida's got two, three and Vegas you know,
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: I mean three total. Yep, Vegas has been there a.
• 37:43
  Speaker 7: Couple of times, has been on the door twice more.
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: Dallas has two cups?
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: Do they not? Well?
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: Arizona but all those Sundell team, the Kings, you know,
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: it's been a couple of years, but they got one.
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: Anaheim's got one. That's twenty something, twenty two to twenty
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: three years ago.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Hey, they got it.
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: Though, Can the state of youth hockey get a cup?
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Is it?
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: Okay?
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Thank you?
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: Man? Isn't that hard to make us look cool?
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Man?
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: I I just remember, well ninety one going to the Bars,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: the old foul play was in school. They were in
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: college during that foul. Yes, sir, you know what I'm
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: talking about. But also because Norm Green put that stuff
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: on pay per view, that's a whole different discussion. Though,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: but just you know, I mean even the brothers were like, man,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: I got to check out this game tonight, man, you know,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: and it just it does suck because in a state
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: that is just so dominated by hockey from all levels,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: to just not even you know, get close to the
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: tabe recently is just you know, for the pro team,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: it is just ridiculous. And I get it, you know,
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: p w HL with the frost and all this stuff.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: But I'm talking you know, the main dudes here, and
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man, because I don't know what changes
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: next year. Necessarily, obviously things got to play out. But
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: you know, when I'm talking to my friends in Nashville
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: and Miami and Tampa, you know, and and and you know,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: relatives talking about hockey and North Carolina wrong, it's wrong,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: And people there don't care. They don't care.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't say that necessarily because I mean, it's
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: it's different obviously than Minnesota because it doesn't have the
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: youth perspective, like you said.
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: When you January game at Lenovo Arena or you watch
• 40:10
  Speaker 7: where the Panthers play in mid January.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: No, that's true because everybody's golfing and enjoining the nice
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: weather that.
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: We don't get here. You just got to pour salt
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: in the.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Oh man, listen, we call it.
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: I call it fer soda.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Listen. You know I love our state, Tommy. You know,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Minnesota has been really good to me and all this.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: But I will say, and I you know, I got
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: my own issues. I'll save the Blackhawks for another show.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: That's a whole different.
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: Beast, that's a half a pod right there, dude, I
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: whatever that.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: So called front office is trying to do down there.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: And then then the news with Connor, he's gonna be
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: out for four months. It's it's just it's you know,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: it's a curse franchise. And maybe we had the as fans,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: we sold our souls to the devil for those three
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: cups back in the day. But I just hope Minnesota
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: can find a way. I really do. These people are
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: starving for it. The fans up there are craving for this.
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: This town needs a title Anima so bad.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Well you know yeah that I mean, you know, Timberwolves
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: and you know just kind of you know, well, recent
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: trades there, and we'll have you back on to talk
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: about some hoops here. But man, yeah, something's got to
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: break here. And you know, I just wanted to talk
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: to you because we're talking hockey tonight. And like you said, man,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: that Gopher title, Yeah, what was that twenty years ago
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: now or something like that. Obviously since the incarnation of
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: the Minnesota Wild, you know, nowhere close to a final.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Well the main final once.
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  Speaker 5: One deep, one deep, run three four and.
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  Speaker 2: That's been a minute too. Yeah, that's the whole point
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  Speaker 2: I mean.
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  Speaker 7: Was that you think back to three we had the
• 42:14
  Speaker 7: Timberwolves and the Wild Conference finals. Didn't we in the
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: same year, isn't that right?
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: I think so?
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: Or it wasn't the same year, it was back to back.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Well, I get what you're saying, though. They were both
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: really kind of close and on the cuss back then,
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: and it was palpable here people. Oh well, and that's
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: what people don't get because that time of year, it's
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: springtime here, it's getting warm now, and you know, I
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: mean people were outside and you know, like well just
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: kind of recently, like with the watch parties right for
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: the UH for the World Cup, you know, outside and
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: join it. And man, I just hope they can find
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: a way, Tom Holler, because you know, it has just
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: been so long for the hockey fan in this state.
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: The wild better get to it because San Jose and
• 43:08
  Speaker 7: Utah and Anaheim are doing this.
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're doing it quickly.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: And it's funny you mentioned Utah new franchise for the
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: hockey folks that don't or maybe not hockey fans. Yes,
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Utah to go over the Arizona franchise. And it was
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: funny because there's I forgot the name of the show.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: It was on CNBC and it's talking about kind of
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: the cities of the future, and they were talking about
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Salt Lake and they interviewed that owner and his wife
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: because he also owns the Utah Jazz.
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: He gets it done, I would do.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, I, God, forget. I know
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: there's people out there that know's name right now, but
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: that owner his wife. What they are doing out there
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: in terms of rebuilding the Delta Center if it's still
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: called Delta Center, I don't know whatever they're rebuilding there.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: They're young folks. They're only I think in their late
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: forties by the wall, so it's that yeah, yeah, I
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: mean they are young folks and they are thinking outside
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: of the box and they're gonna make it very very
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: interesting because people are gonna be like, oh, Utah, who
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: wants to go out to Mormon Land and this and
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: that time's a change man. And with owners like that,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: it's it's gonna be very interesting. So you had another
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: reason why I gotta kind of step under, sir, stay
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: on their p's and q's.
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it ain't still friends.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Show business. All right, ladies and gentlemen, the one and
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: only Tom Holler. Let's play hockey. We're gonna have Tom
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Beck throughout the year and obviously when we do start
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: hockey season, he's gonna be one of our main contacts here.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: So Tom, thank you for joining us my friend on
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: the show. I really appreciate it any thanks for the invite.
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: It was a blast man.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Thank you all right, all right, folks, my man man
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Tom Holler joining us on the Sports Done Right podcasts,
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: and like I said, he's gonna be one of our
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: main hockey contacts. So Tom, thank you again for joining us.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Always good to catch up with an old friend as well.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Like I said, Tom, we go back to college days.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: He went to Annona State with my ex wife and
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: a bunch of friends and people that I knew down there,
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: so yeah, known Tom forever and glad that we reconnected here.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: So with that being said, people, I thank you again.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Make sure you get you some Seventh Avenue pizza. And
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, if you ever thought a pizza and
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: breakfast didn't go together, you got to get that breakfast
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: pizza man. Otherwise that sausage pepperoni my personal favorite love
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Seventh Avenue pizza. Make sure you get you some, as
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: I like to say, and with that we are out
• 45:50
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• 45:53
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