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From JFK to Trump: One woman’s witness · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

• 0:12
  It has been a crazy week here in the United States of America, crazy month, a crazy year, crazy 10 years.
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  I don't know how many years you want to go back, but I want to talk to speak to many events that have gone on.
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  But as always, something happens in the news that just stops me in my tracks, and I wanted to address what happened at the White House correspondence dinner with yet another attempted assassination on our president and others.
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  I can tell you that I've been in DC in these hotels.
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  I've stayed in them.
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  The um the security is not great uh in general, but that's not the issue here.
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  The president has gone to many places where the security has either been lax, obviously, in Butler, Pennsylvania, there was a reason for that.
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  But once he became president, this is a president who does not want to be behind the glass.
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  He wants to go see the people.
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  I've heard many times from people who know the president that he wants to go out and shake hands and he crosses the line, you know, the barrier.
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  My sister herself was at an event before President Trump was president, and the Secret Service was was protecting him, and my sister wanted a selfie, and the president said sure.
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  And it was the only selfie that he actually took that night at the event.
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  But that was kind of an indication as to what kind of president we have.
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  Uh, but he's also the biggest target in the world.
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  So yet another assassination attempt on President Trump.
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  This is his fourth that we know of.
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  I'm sure there have been many more that we may never hear about.
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  And so today I have a very special guest.
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  You know, there's there's very few people on the planet who have lived through all the assassinations other than Lincoln.
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  Uh, sorry, but that's true.
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  And so today I have a very special guest, my mother, Mary Byrne, who has uh quite a vast resume, not just as my mom, but her in her career, uh more as she said, more wear more many hats.
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  But I thought we would be very interesting if we don't listen to people who have experienced the culture of the political climates during these assassinations of Kennedy and Bobby Kennedy, John F.
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  Kennedy, when Reagan was shot, and Martin Luther King, uh, the temperature of the world, you know, there's this culture today, these young, I say the young kids, they don't really know the history.
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  It's not taught properly.
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  It's now changing.
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  They're literally changing history books to accommodate the narrative of what whoever wants to put into our children's minds.
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  My mom was also a teacher, so we're gonna touch on that a little bit later.
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  But welcome, mom.
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  Are you there, mom?
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  Mom.
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  Hello.
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  Can you hear me?
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  Can you hear me now?
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  Oh, I can hear you now.
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  See, you know, people keep clicking off.
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  That's okay.
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  So here's the thing.
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  My mom lives with us here at my house, but she lives in her apartment outside.
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  So we set up this morning, and you know, technology is never fun anyway.
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  But welcome, mom.
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  Did you hear what I was talking about?
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  How we're gonna kind of walk through the history of, you know, we talked about President Trump, and we're gonna talk about President Trump and your your thoughts on him later, but you know, living through the culture of the assassinations and attempts on our presidents and political leaders, Martin Luther King.
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  So, you know, if you want to take me back to your earliest memory of whether it's John F.
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  Kennedy or Bobby Kennedy, which is around the same time of kind of what was going on in our world at the time and why they were targeted.
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  Well, I'll start out with Kennedy because uh he was assassinated in 1963.
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  And by that time, you know, I had two children.
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  And I remember I was sitting in a beauty parlor getting my hair done, and that's when it happened.
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  And I'll never forget the reaction to everybody.
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  Everybody was uh overwhelmed with grief.
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  But then I know you want to understand what the uh was going on in the world at that time, and Russia again was part of the background of why Kennedy was assassinated.
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  And uh the Cuban Missile Crisis occurred during his uh tenure as president, and that was in 1962.
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  And it was very unsuccessful.
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  But uh the Bay of Pigs happened, you know, where they tried to go in the United States, as they often do, they did not go in by themselves, but they got uh put a militia together of Cuban exiles to do that.
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  And it was unsuccessful, and uh they were trying to free Cuba from what was going on at the time.
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  Uh Castro had taken over uh after a Cuban revolution and in 1959, he had established himself as uh the head of the Cuban government, and as you all know, it uh Cuba has you know suffered since then from constant dictatorships.
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  But that's what happened as far as the assassination of John F.
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  Kennedy.
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  They try to say that they didn't know why Oswald did it, but he did have a Russian background, and Russia has prevailed in the minds of people at the from you know, that time that there was some uh nexus to their position as far as getting rid of Kennedy.
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  They didn't know.
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  How did you know that?
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  How did how did you know that with you know the social media today?
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  We all know everything or something, but how were you aware of that Russian connection?
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  Because you had so little media coverage, I mean, media coverage of his assassination, obviously.
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  But how were you educated on the connection to Oswald and the assassination?
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  How did you know?
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  We lost her again.
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  She'll be back.
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  This is what it's gonna be.
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  That's all.
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  It's just the way it is.
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  She'll be back.
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  See, this is what I'm talking about.
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  I'm talking about how the back.
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  Okay, so tell me how you have to forgive me because this phone keeps clicking.
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  It doesn't matter.
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  It doesn't matter.
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  It's all good.
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  It's all good.
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  It's all good.
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  It's all good.
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  It's it's probably the connection.
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  It's probably the connection.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  What uh I the reason I know about the Russia connection is because they did the itinerary of where he you know grew up, where he came from, what his background was.
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  What uh I the reason I know about the Russia connection is because they did the itinerary of where he you know grew up, where he came from, what his background was, and there was his travel to Russia.
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  And there was his travel to Russia.
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  And if I'm not mistaken, I think he was married to her, you know, with a Russian uh young lady.
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  And if I'm not mistaken, I think he was married to or uh you know with a Russian uh young lady.
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  Uh that's where the Russia impression came, and it exists, you know, to uh until today.
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  Uh that's where the Russia impression came, and it exists, you know, to uh until today.
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  And the whole reason that they wanted to, you know, release Cuba is because again, they didn't want the uh communist control over uh like over Cuba, which is only 90 miles off our coast.
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  Right.
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  So there was a lot of connection there, and you know, there's many stories between now and between and then and now, but my recollection then is when I realized that you know he had been assassinated, and then you know.
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  I'm back.
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  Yeah, time and rewind that uh uh of my impressions at the time.
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  We're going back a long time now.
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  You have to remember.
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  Yes, you're young, you're a young how we don't want to say how old you are, but you're coming up on a big birthday.
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  I'm coming up on double digits, let's put it that way.
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  Yes, yes, double digits.
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  Um, so in the aftermath of Kennedy getting assassinated, then you have Bobby comes along.
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  Now, why what was the what was Bobby Kennedy doing at the time of his uh assassination?
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  Like what was he what what what bears was he poking to uh cause this assassin, or do you feel like was behind that?
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  What was what was your take on it at the time?
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  Well, he was also uh he was assassinated the same year that Martin Luther King was, just within months, and uh both of them were in opposition of the Vietnam Vietnam War.
• 9:03
  Uh, I see.
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  So it definitely comes back to something to do with the uh opposing and and speaking out and not uh, you know, um not supporting it, so to speak.
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  Right, they were against the Vietnam War, and of course Martin Luther King was against, you know uh uh as far as you know uh racism, etc.
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  But both both of those men were very prominent and fully supported by the American people.
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  It was the outside forces that were uh going against them as we uh over all the years that I've lived, you that this is what happens.
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  You have people that come up and then the opposition, you know, throws you know dirt and etc.
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  throws things at the wall that antagonizes people against them, and that that's a small group, but they're the ones that end up causing all this uh these problems.
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  And so in 1968, uh Bobby Kennedy was, I believe at that time he was you know won't had established that he was going to run for president, and uh and uh they hated him.
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  They didn't want that, yeah.
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  They didn't want him because he of his he was I I have to say he the the Kennedys were more like what Trump is doing now.
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  They were more um pragmatists, they were Democrats, but they're more pragmatists where they saw a problem and they wanted to attack it and and and sort of take the uh extraneous influences and the the roadblocks that people put in way of any progress, and no people didn't like that, and of course Martin Luther King, you know the uh well now we know that they were spying on him, you know, they were they were tapping his phones, they were you know, the same tactics that uh that are happening in our culture today, but people don't want to accept that.
• 11:01
  I mean, how nobody really knew that back when Martin Luther King was assassinated, that the FBI was investigating him, that there was you know uh there was a lot of people against Martin Luther King because again, like you said, he was he was changing the nation, he was changing the the story.
• 11:19
  It was uh he he was he was in somebody's way.
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  But what do you and the overall takeaway with Martin Luther King, was there any at the time any foreign uh alluding that there was some foreign influence into his assassination at all?
• 11:34
  Or what what was the what was the headline when Martin Luther King was assassinated?
• 11:39
  Well the only the only thing I can say about that is that you know, as far as racism and and and uh exploring you know um how that affected the you know the country, he was anti-Vietnam war, as was Bobby Kennedy.
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  That much I remember.
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  Um but what he stirred the pot and nobody likes when that happens.
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  We we've seen that in our daily culture today.
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  Nobody likes when they stir the pot.
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  They don't want to stick to the norms of their norm, whatever that means.
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  Uh so I I was I'm always fascinated by what the American people supported Bobby Kennedy.
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  So that when you're saying that overall the American people were against the Vietnam War, would you say that was an overall sentiment of the country?
• 12:26
  Absolutely.
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  Yeah, okay.
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  What I can say, and that lasted 20 years, the Vietnam War.
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  If the what you you were I don't you weren't even, you know, more barely at the time.
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  But but as you know, your father uh employed a couple of young kids.
• 12:43
  They were young actually, and they were called to war, and they went to Vietnam, and they came back scarred for life.
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  True.
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  And we also know of someone else that went over there.
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  A lot of them came back addicts.
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  It was it was a horrific war, and it the toll on the American people uh unfortunately I don't know if you remember, but when these kids came back and after the war was over, they were shunned.
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  Right.
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  That's how bad that the Vietnam War was uh hated in the United States.
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  Right.
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  That these four kids come back after you know fighting for their you know on behalf of their country, and they were shunned and they were they were scarred for life, because I'm not gonna go into details, but we know some uh and have that you know have suffered terribly from it.
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  And I would have to say, I have to get I have to give our our my father uh you know, the a shout out to dad because dad recognized that, you know, and and then when they were in our home, I mean I remember, you know, the the these warm-hearted great guys that were just broken people and their marriages broke up and they're you know they had so much suffering and it and the way we treat our veterans, that's a whole other story is uh is a disgrace uh over people who don't even actually live in this country who are coming here, you know.
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  The way we treat our veterans, that's a whole other story is is a disgrace uh over people who don't even actually live in this country who are coming here, you know.
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  So that's a whole other topic.
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  So that's a whole other topic.
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  But so the you know, and then you kind of get into who was the president who was the first president after uh would you think Reagan was the next kind of uh Ford.
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  But so the you know, and then you kind of get into who was the president, who was the first president after uh would you think Reagan was the next kind of uh Ford.
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  So it was Ford a good, but was he a good president in your
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  So was Ford a good, but was he a good president in your mind?
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  Well, as I remember, there was attempted assassinations on Ford.
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  Okay.
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  I'm trying to figure out that the he only had one term.
• 14:42
  Uh he was not respected, but as far as I am concerned, he was a viable and pretty good president, but he just fell into the trap between all that had come before him.
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  That happens.
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  So, like what what where was the next golden age of the United States?
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  Do you feel like where how how long did it take for us to get out of that and have where you felt like the the country was going back on track?
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  Do you think it was Reagan?
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  I mean, I know you know, I remember obviously um that's the first president I remember, obviously, because I've talked about it on the show that you know after Reagan was shot, uh I went to the White House with the cast of Annie, and we and he had you know just been shot.
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  Um there he was kind of out, kind of like Trump does, you know, like after these horrible things happen, he just rises from the ashes and came out and and was uh still ruling.
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  So um what do you remember about the history of Reagan?
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  And obviously where he came from was was an interesting background as well.
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  But uh, and he was an actor, obviously, which again, some sort of a celebrity similar to our current president, and became in you know rose to the president of the United States.
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  So do you have anything on on that?
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  Well, and he was a successful governor, Republican governor in the state of California.
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  And his that's where he established not only his personality, but his his uh his politics, his very strong politics, right?
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  Also again, you have the Russia coming into this again and communism and socialism.
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  This sort of the thread through all of these uh assassinations, wars, etc.
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  It's all you know, predicated on establishing that socialism and communism would be stalled and could not take over.
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  And it's still that like that today.
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  Right.
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  But uh and Reagan went over and think back when you think back to Cuba.
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  I mean, they had they were were 90 miles off our country, they had nuclear there that they want to set up a nuclear power there.
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  And the only way that they got out was because as I remember, they came to an agreement that they Russia would release, would not go into uh Cuba.
• 17:19
  Okay, I'm back that Russia would not would release all the nuclear stuff, take the everything back, but they had United States had a sign that they would not invade Cuba.
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  So that was the deal, as far as I remember.
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  And I think that's why that you know, no nobody has gone back into Cuba like that before again doing I don't know what to do.
• 17:40
  China Well, China's doing it, you know, China is uh setting up shop there, and and under Biden and under by the Biden years, uh, you know, there was China owned the Biden's um and they were setting up sh still, I think that's another reason why Trump is you know, saying Cuba's next, and Marco Rubio will, you know, handle that obviously.
• 18:03
  But so, you know, you know, after Reagan was shot and had this golden age of of the United States, and then we went on to 9-11 and and and where we are, and you know I uh what uh before we take the first break, I want to talk about we're gonna talk about more about Trump in the second half about his presidency, but what do you see regarding the fourth assassination attempt on the president and Trump?
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  How is it different?
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  How do you see from all your perspective of the decades you've watched this country?
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  What is different about this is about the attempts to tick him down and kill him that are you know, the theories and the this and the conspiracies and this, that from your observation from 30,000 feet to say why are the assassination attempts against President Trump different from what you've seen in your history because I actually believe that uh people have set him up to be assassinated.
• 19:17
  They actually are putting out publications in and you know it in their own words, they want Trump assassinated, they want him out at all costs.
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  And since this time around, he got back into office.
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  They tried repeatedly to get him out of uh never be able to run again.
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  They took him off the ballots, they were trying to take him off ballots, everything.
• 19:39
  Yeah, but the thing is that he he did win, and so they had to go the next step, and the next step was we have to get rid of him.
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  And if you you know read press, you re you know, look the internet, you know, just that undercurrent of kill him is it's rampant.
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  I mean, they don't even hesitate from saying it, he needs to be dead.
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  Right, taken out, he needs to be taken out.
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  They use language like that.
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  Our our, you know, thankfully, um uh FB former FBI director, James Comey, who you know thought he was cute and put 8647 in some shells on a beach, thought that was you know, that's not by accident.
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  That's not by accident, you know.
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  We we know that we we know that because of what we've been through, but the American public in general, you know, gets tidbits of things.
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  Um do you feel like the brainwashing narrative, the you know, the repetitive repeating of trying, you know, getting him out, killing him, all that is that's something you've never seen before?
• 20:37
  Never seen before, and as I said, I never remember anybody predicting or asking for Kennedy to be assassinated or uh RFK or even Martin Luther King.
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  I've no, there was no anything that would have predicted that that could have happened.
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  That's why it was such a shock.
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  And when you uh look at, I think it was three assassinations for Trump and um maybe another attempt, but they were all predicated in his second term by people that did not want him there, and it just the explosive narrative against him uh was actually setting this up.
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  Um, maybe another attempt, but they were all predicated in his second term by people that did not want him there, and it just the explosive narrative against him.
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  Uh was actually setting this up.
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  And I never saw that before, and then the other ones.
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  And I never saw that before, and then the other ones he was disliked, maybe it was Russia and that thing, but they they tried to make uh Trump or Russia asset, but he wasn't, and it was disproven.
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  He was disliked, maybe it was Russia and that thing, but they they tried to make uh Trump or Russia asset, but he wasn't, and it was disproven.
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  So they tried the all the old tricks in the first term, and in the second term.
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  So they tried the all the old tricks in the first term, and in the second term, the it hadn't worked before, so now they went into the narrative, the terrible, horrific narrative.
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  And like anything else in this world, if you say something repeatedly over and over and over again, sometimes it sticks.
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  And unfortunately, in the minds of people that are uneducated, and um, especially today, when they believe everything that's told them their their mindset, uh, then you end up with you know situations like this.
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  And it's really a tragedy because President Trump's a pacifist, and it you can see how he does things.
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  He to me, he's not really a Democrat or a Republican.
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  He's someone that doesn't like to go through all of the uh pageantry uh of Congress and the go through motions and all that kind of stuff.
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  He wants he sees it something that has to be done, he wants it done right away.
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  And the way the government works, sometimes it takes months to do things.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  Right.
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  And that's deliberate, that's deliberate.
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  And but that's not how he works.
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  That's why he probably you know antagonizes people because he sees something and he wants it done.
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  And 99% of the time he's correct.
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  Yes.
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  And uh what people don't understand too about this Iran war.
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  Uh Trump is a pacifist.
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  You know, he does not like war at all.
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  He shuns it.
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  And that's why I voted for him the first time.
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  He promised uh he made promises.
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  I was always a lifelong Democrat.
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  And he made promises that uh unfortunately after Obama, I had a turn on the Democratic Party.
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  And I voted for Trump, and everything that he said he would do, he did.
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  Yeah.
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  And during that that first term, there was no wars.
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  Nobody uh invaded anywhere.
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  It was a peaceful four years.
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  And now people are saying that this he's he's a he's a war.
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  It's only been a couple of weeks, and what from my point of view, okay, for your audience, from my point of view, he has recognized that Iran with a nuclear bomb and their hateful rhetoric and instinctive hate for anything other than Islam in in a minute.
• 23:51
  If they got to uh an attack nuclear warhead, they would use it.
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  They would actually, you know, get rid of the people that they hate because they're a theocracy, right?
• 24:03
  They're a religion and they go by the mandates of their religion, and they've indoctrinated their people with it.
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  There's no question, and Trump recognizes that.
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  Otherwise, he would not want to do this.
• 24:14
  No, and I think do you think what do you think is behind of all the you know of all the things that could it could be?
• 24:23
  Why do you think what's the biggest issue why people want him?
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  I'm talking about from the political side, dead.
• 24:34
  They don't like any of his policies.
• 24:36
  Right.
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  Because why?
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  But why do they why what is it about his policies that makes them so unsettled?
• 24:44
  Realistically, he's for the average man.
• 24:46
  That's right.
• 24:47
  He's for the average man.
• 24:49
  He doesn't have to be where he is, he doesn't have to do what he does.
• 24:52
  He could have been, you know, he could be off in the sunshine golfing all the time.
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  Right.
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  And he plenty, but he he loves America.
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  And he foresees what can happen to it, and he's going to be the instrument that's going to help save America from you know anything future.
• 25:09
  And I think that's why he's holding out on this Iran deal because he knows that they're they are a threat.
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  Right.
• 25:15
  A real threat to the future of not only the United States, but for a lot of different regions.
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  And they if they have the the uh uh nuclear uh capability, they would just use it to wipe out the those that they wouldn't even hesitate to use it.
• 25:29
  And he knows that.
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  And by the way, he's actually saving the saving our gener next generations.
• 25:34
  I agree with that.
• 25:35
  And I think the Iran, I would say I ran if I'm gonna be a betting person, I would say Iran was the was the impetus to all these assassination attempts.
• 25:45
  That that's where it started because he's the biggest threat.
• 25:49
  So it's almost like our friend Michael Minogue says, you know, who's running for governor of Massachusetts, he says, I'm not a politician, I'm a public servant.
• 25:56
  And I think that's what Donald Trump is.
• 25:58
  And when we come back, we're gonna talk a little bit more about that and a lot more.
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  All right, we're back with Mary Byrne, my mother.
• 30:37
  I'm thrilled to have her here today.
• 30:39
  I think we've had many conversations in the backyard about what's going on in the world and being you're you're a grandmother of how many now?
• 30:45
  How many children?
• 30:47
  You have four kids, and how many grandchildren do you have?
• 30:51
  11 grandchildren and one great grandchild.
• 30:54
  Yes.
• 30:54
  And I think that will give you an idea of how what her birthday might be in the next few weeks.
• 30:59
  But uh my mom was a her background is I mean, maybe you could talk a little bit about your background.
• 31:06
  Uh I think that's important for where we're going to be talking a bit about uh some issues uh and at the end we're gonna talk more about President Trump because I think it's important.
• 31:15
  But can you give everybody a background of your education?
• 31:20
  Uh you you know, kind of your job when you worked and Hofflin Aroche, and a little bit about your history, because I think it's important not just for people to know that you were grew up in this time and lived these events, but you your personal journey on this planet, because the whole idea now about being a mom and having a career and balancing it all, it's like it can all this is not a new concept.
• 31:47
  It's been it was how it all worked in in history.
• 31:51
  And it's you are really the the picture of what you can have it all, you can do what you want to do, you can have your career, you can, you know, of course things shift as life goes on, but I think people need to understand your your background uh and your education because the last thing you want people to say, well, wow, what does she know?
• 32:12
  How could she say?
• 32:13
  Why would why would why should we care what Mary Byrne thinks?
• 32:16
  But so maybe you can give a bit about your history.
• 32:21
  Okay, so let me put my brain in rewind.
• 32:25
  Um I I have to say that I was Catholic educated from the time, you know, from grammar school, high school, college.
• 32:32
  So right there.
• 32:33
  That background alone, you know, has influenced me.
• 32:37
  But of course, during the time, and those were many, many years ago.
• 32:42
  Life uh in the United States uh was quite different.
• 32:47
  Um I was a science major, uh science and math.
• 32:52
  And of course, being in Catholic University, I also had to take philosophy and theology all four years that I was there, which also influenced my you know thinking uh as life progressed for me.
• 33:06
  The unfortunate thing today is that these kids are not allowed to progress in life after they graduate from college.
• 33:14
  There's so many obstacles.
• 33:15
  When I graduated from college, I would have to say that the majority of my friends, we all got married.
• 33:21
  We all got married and started a family.
• 33:24
  And uh we were uh economically, we were able to do that.
• 33:29
  When I graduated, I had uh secondary education background as well.
• 33:34
  I I had that as far as science and math.
• 33:37
  And after I did my practice teaching, I decided that was not for me.
• 33:44
  So I went into research and I worked in research as a research biologist for a couple of years.
• 33:49
  But I began a family early, and within three and a half years, I had three children.
• 33:56
  You don't see that happening today, which has gives me the pleasure of being a great grandmother.
• 34:01
  And it God has been good.
• 34:03
  I've been able to, you know, experience that because during the time that I after I graduated in the 60s uh from college, everybody was getting married, and I had all four of my children in the 60s.
• 34:16
  The first three, then three and a half years, and then you were the grand finale.
• 34:21
  But uh life was just entirely different, and I feel so badly for uh kids today, because they don't have that availability.
• 34:30
  Um, the church is not as active as it used to be.
• 34:34
  Um the economics is very difficult.
• 34:38
  Um I I really feel difficult uh I feel sorry for the kids today.
• 34:43
  They're missing out on a lot of things.
• 34:45
  And you taught in Catholic, you taught Catholic high school.
• 34:48
  You you know, you but you're can you talk a little bit about what you researched?
• 34:54
  Because I think um, you know, when COVID happened and you were here, we you were sitting outside with me, and first of all, just I want people to know what that research entailed when you were doing uh research, and then you were the first person.
• 35:00
  And first of all, just what I want people to know what that research entailed when you were doing uh research, and then you were the first person, we were sitting outside, and you said when COVID hit, you said everybody's gonna get this.
• 35:08
  We were sitting outside, and you said, when COVID hit, you said everybody's gonna get this.
• 35:12
  And I said, What are you talking about?
• 35:12
  And I said, What are you talking about?
• 35:13
  You said everybody's gonna get it.
• 35:13
  You said everybody's gonna get it.
• 35:15
  It's airborne, everybody's gonna get it, and it's gonna be devastating or whatever.
• 35:15
  It's airborne, everybody's gonna get it, and it's gonna be devastating or whatever.
• 35:19
  And about masks and how they don't work, but they, you know, whatever.
• 35:19
  And about masks and how they don't work, but they you know, whatever.
• 35:23
  But tell I want people to understand, like you were saying, everybody's going to get this, and masks don't save.
• 35:23
  But tell I want people to understand, like you were saying everybody's going to get this, and masks don't save you, but while Dr.
• 35:32
  Fauci was telling everybody to put on three masks.
• 35:34
  So I want people to understand what you what your research was and your job, so people can say, Oh, yes, Mrs.
• 35:41
  Byrne was right in what she was talking about, and why weren't more piss people listening to they were actually silencing scientists.
• 35:49
  We know I know somebody, this this Dr.
• 35:52
  Ron uh Alfenbaum that's been was arrested by the Biden administration for telling the truth.
• 35:58
  So what was your research entailed when you were at Hoffman La Roche and what is Hoffman La Roche?
• 36:05
  Well, they were pharmaceutical company.
• 36:08
  They they no longer there they went back to Germany, but they were very uh uh influential in research, and that's what I did.
• 36:16
  I worked in pharmacology and chemotherapy research there.
• 36:20
  Um I'm not gonna go into the details of what you know what I did, but one thing I will tell you is that when my work done, I'll just put this out on the mice that we worked on in one facet.
• 36:32
  We had to give them a cortisone type of treatment before we infected them because otherwise they would not get the infection.
• 36:42
  It inhibited them.
• 36:44
  So over the years, uh, you know, I've always, you know, the immunity that is curtailed sometimes when you're given these cortisone treatments is you know, should be understood, let's put it that way.
• 36:56
  Right, right, right.
• 36:57
  You're you're you're your your immune system is gonna your immune system is going to be lessened.
• 37:01
  It's compromised.
• 37:03
  Right.
• 37:04
  And but that's what I did there.
• 37:05
  And then I started having children, and and that's when I went into education.
• 37:10
  And I have to admit that even though in the beginning I was, you know, did not want to be a teacher.
• 37:18
  I had only gone into secondary education as a minor because my father insisted that I do it.
• 37:24
  It was the best gift he ever gave me because it being a teacher ended up being the the nicest the best job I ever had in my life.
• 37:33
  And to this day, I'm just so thankful for it because I even look on uh sometimes I'll go into Facebook or something, and I see my former students, they're now grandparents, and it's just the beauty of it, just beautiful lives.
• 37:48
  And this is why, as far as education is concerned, it's one of the reasons, and I don't want to get into politics so much, but one of the reasons I soured on President Obama because when he was elected, I had great hopes for him.
• 38:02
  I thought that the African American community would be profit from him, that the education system that they have been denied so you know overwhelmingly denied, yes, that it it would have he would have uh taken care of something like that.
• 38:18
  But he's you know, he promised the uh healthcare system and everything, and he just cheated everybody and he cheated his own race.
• 38:25
  He did.
• 38:26
  And it was after that that I that's when I voted for Donald Trump because the racial diversity that occurred during his eight years is to me uh terrible, terrible because up to that point, uh it had progressed to the point that everybody, you know, interracial marriage is fine, everybody it had just you know volumed into something that was total compatibility, yes, races, and the division started then, which it still exists now and it's being it's almost like extortion today.
• 38:57
  But I agree with that.
• 38:58
  I I absolutely agree with that.
• 38:59
  And I I just like to see the the the Barack Obama youth centers, yeah, the Barack Obama aftercares.
• 39:07
  Yes, they don't see them.
• 39:08
  No, no.
• 39:09
  So he's left it, he's left his own community in the lurch, and that's a disgrace.
• 39:14
  So I agree with that.
• 39:16
  They can say what he wants, but he elevated the African American community.
• 39:20
  He during his first term, and even to now, and people just don't recognize that, or they uh try to avoid it because they don't want people to understand that he really is uh humanitarian for all races.
• 39:33
  I agree not a racist.
• 39:35
  By far.
• 39:37
  None, not at all.
• 39:38
  No, not at all.
• 39:39
  And then it that's you know, there's some some very glaring uh painful narratives that go out about Donald Trump that are so so awful.
• 39:49
  Uh, you know, and you're and when you talk about education and you know what the department of education is is ridiculous and and has destroyed this country, um uh, you know, and having been a teacher yourself and you see what's going on uh and in our in our society with our our youth, you know, the COVID lockdowns were detrimental so on so many levels, and that that came at the hands of the Dr.
• 40:16
  Fauci's, the they were lying to the American public.
• 40:20
  You know, tell me why first of all, and we'll you know, we'll keep this to to just your uh you know, your thoughts.
• 40:27
  Having been in research and understanding microbiology, uh, why did you say that everybody was going to get COVID when we were sitting outside in March of 2020 or whatever it was?
• 40:40
  Because it was a airborne contagion.
• 40:43
  Tell everybody what that means.
• 40:46
  So they understand why everybody got it.
• 40:48
  If you are approximate to somebody that has it, you know, within a certain period of time, the percentages, the percentages.
• 40:55
  Some people didn't, they had natural immunity, but the percentages were that in some shape or form you were going to get COVID.
• 41:01
  That's it.
• 41:02
  Similar to the flu, similar to the the flu, right?
• 41:04
  I mean, that's well it was a uh no looking back, it was you know, uh uh orchestrated virus, you know, definitely it was created, it was man, it was man-made, it was man-made.
• 41:17
  Right.
• 41:18
  Right.
• 41:18
  And I I don't I've always thought that from the very the beginning, you know, the this business of coming from a bat and stuff.
• 41:24
  If it came from a bat, we would have had a long we would have long before that.
• 41:29
  Right.
• 41:29
  Why is that?
• 41:30
  Why why do you say that?
• 41:32
  Because they were existed, you know, the ex the bats in uh in in China, you know, it's part of their their uh markets, you know.
• 41:41
  That it it in other words, yeah.
• 41:43
  We would have had it a long time ago.
• 41:45
  Yeah, you don't have to stretch the imagination to understand that uh the simultaneous uh COVID uh in the United States was predicated on it being in China, right?
• 41:58
  And they then they brought it over here and it spread just like years ago, the measle spread, the German measles spread.
• 42:00
  Here and it spread just like years ago, the measles spread, the German measles spread.
• 42:05
  I when I was in high school, it it was polio.
• 42:05
  I when I was in high school, it it was polio.
• 42:08
  And people it was you know, I've lived through all that.
• 42:08
  And people it was, you know, I've lived through all that.
• 42:11
  I remember when I was in high school, the the quarterback on the the football team came down with polio and he was paralyzed this uh right side of his uh wow you know, body was part paralyzed.
• 42:11
  I remember when I was in high school, the the quarterback on the the football team came down with polio and he was paralyzed as uh right side of his wow you know, thought he was paralyzed.
• 42:24
  So we went through a lot of stuff.
• 42:24
  So we went through a lot of stuff.
• 42:25
  I remember when I we're little kids living in Ridgewood, and the measles was going around.
• 42:25
  I remember when I we're little kids living in Ridgewood, and the measles was going around.
• 42:30
  I remember my father, you know, took blackened shades and we all had to stay inside, and you know, the those are precautions they said because you weren't supposed to have bright light and things like that.
• 42:40
  And you know, it it spread, just those things spread.
• 42:45
  And unfortunately, you know, unfortunately with the COVID, it just the ramifications from that spread, you know, infiltrated society more than it should have, because you know uh Trump got the vaccine, which was great and it saved a lot of people, but the mis uh overtaking right, right?
• 43:07
  Right misrepresentation of what it did and what it didn't do was lying to the American people.
• 43:11
  And to this day, there's people still getting booster shots and giving it to babies, and it's an it's a it's a disgrace what they've done.
• 43:19
  And it's coming out now that it was all covered up and it's horrible.
• 43:25
  Um, and we're not going to fix that today, but I I just wanted people to understand that it wasn't like real uh researchers and people who were doctors didn't know the truth, but they were silenced.
• 43:41
  And that's I think uh a total assault on humanity, and I hope they pay for what they did and the people that were punished for it and and speaking out one day get some sort of uh uh uh he's like you don't even want just want the the world to know that the truth.
• 43:58
  Uh so that was something I I kind of wanted to talk about, and you know, obviously the education and the kids that what's what's gone on with how they've been indoctrinated and how they're trying to, you know, the youth is how they get attention, you know, right?
• 44:12
  Using you brainwashing the youth, and I've seen it particularly with young women, young women are more leaning in the left than the males, it seems to be.
• 44:23
  And with abortion, uh, you know, I want to talk about, you know, you've always been pro-life.
• 44:29
  You you instilled that in me.
• 44:30
  I'm so grateful you did.
• 44:32
  And why are you pro-life?
• 44:36
  Other than the Catholic, other than the Catholic, you know, the religious one thing.
• 44:39
  When you when you take biology, uh, and you take embryology and you take comparative anatomy, and you actually see what you know the reality of life is, you can be nothing else but pro-life.
• 44:53
  Right.
• 44:53
  I mean, it life begins immediately, uh, country uh at uh conception.
• 44:59
  And you know, studying that, I remember they had um there's two different types of it's it there's a therap therapeutic abortion where women uh lose their babies uh therapeutically that they're not they they call it abortion.
• 45:15
  Right, but the body, well, says that's it.
• 45:16
  The body, you know, releases it from its uh the mother.
• 45:21
  Yeah, and in my uh college, they had the one of the labs had the uh creation of the the embryo all the way through, and they had uh preserved the some of these uh as in the stages of development up through a stillborn, and they were you could actually visually see that this was a human being from the very beginning to the very end.
• 45:53
  Now these were therapeutically aborted, meaning that they were born dead, and they were used in in this Catholic university in my embryology class as a visual demonstration of what uh life human life right and and we didn't, you know, the fame there's the I think the most famous life cover of life is the picture that was an actual photograph of a baby in the womb, you know, and it was I think the most famous cover.
• 46:24
  I think that you know, the what was the when Planned Parenthood came around and birth control and all of that, and like women's whatever you want to call it.
• 46:39
  I mean, obviously they were very successful in completely denying what life is in the culture today, they don't even understand it at all.
• 46:48
  It's it's it's horrific.
• 46:50
  But well, Planned Parenthood initially was to eliminate the black community.
• 46:56
  Correct.
• 46:56
  People don't know that.
• 46:57
  People don't know people don't know that.
• 46:59
  No.
• 47:04
  Uh stations of uh planned parenthood were in the black communities and were proximate to it.
• 47:08
  Still are yeah, they're trying to eliminate the the black community.
• 47:14
  Uh it was a disgrace.
• 47:16
  It has emanated further since, and it became part of the mindset of people that you know I don't think totally understand what you know the gift of life is, but initially that was all based on again racism.
• 47:31
  Science.
• 47:31
  Well, well, well, science for like the life, but racism for for destroying life.
• 47:36
  Oh, yes, yeah.
• 47:37
  And why do you think about President Trump, they're saying is the most pro-life president we've ever had, uh, which I agree.
• 47:43
  I think he spoke, uh, he was zoomed in with March for Life in his first term.
• 47:48
  Uh he's he is spoken about uh he he understands it.
• 47:55
  I think he's I think the over his first term and his and his evolution as a human being too his respect for the right to life has grown.
• 48:09
  And I'll give him credit for that because he's realizing he's realized whether his lifestyle early on in his career, his life, whatever, he is now kind of opened up the avenues to for people in the pro-life community to have a voice bigger than they've ever had.
• 48:32
  And he says, I'm not going to heaven, as Trump said, Ah, I'm doing what I can, I'm doing what I can.
• 48:36
  But the reality is what he can you speak to what he's done for the pro-life movement and what his messaging, uh, how important it is to, and have you never seen it?
• 48:49
  I mean, even though the Kennedys were, you know, Catholic back in the those days, the abortion issue was basically.
• 48:58
  I mean, can you speak to that a little bit?
• 49:00
  How different it is from when the Kennedys who were Catholic and what that was like as having Catholics in the White House, as opposed to a Trump who's not a Catholic, but loves life and pro-life, obviously, you know, supports the pro-life movement.
• 49:00
  How different it is from when the Kennedys who were Catholic and what that was like as having Catholics in the White House as opposed to a Trump who's not a Catholic but loves life and pro-life, obviously, you know, supports the pro-life movement.
• 49:16
  Um kind of the differences between what what you what your perspective is on that.
• 49:16
  Um kind of the differences between what what you what your perspective is on that.
• 49:22
  Well, I have to be honest that you know, what it during the time that my younger years, I had never even knew of anybody having an abortion.
• 49:22
  Well, I have to be honest that you know, during the time that my younger years, I had never even knew of anybody having an abortion ever.
• 49:31
  It was so it was so rare.
• 49:32
  It was so unheard of.
• 49:34
  And I to the to the point that if anybody did get pregnant, they they went usually um, you know, went over to adoption, right?
• 49:43
  And they get put it up for adoption.
• 49:45
  I know a couple of people that you know, I've after the fact I found one of my closest friends who is now the same age as I am, just five years ago found out that she she had had had she had gotten pregnant in high school, nobody ever knew about it.
• 50:01
  She never told her her her husband that she had you know a baby.
• 50:06
  She went to the Catholic uh home and had the baby and gave her up for adoption.
• 50:11
  And five years ago, now the woman's in her 80s, five years ago.
• 50:16
  She this woman got in touch with her, and she called me and she said, Mary Dell, you're never gonna uh believe this.
• 50:25
  And that's when she told me that her life story, she never told her husband, she never told her kids.
• 50:30
  And this she said the most beautiful thing happened to me, I found her, and she found me, and she's been accepted.
• 50:36
  And but the funniest part about this is that uh she said, when I told my children that they had a sister, they looked at me and said, What did dad do?
• 50:49
  Ah, I thought it was him.
• 50:51
  They assumed it was him.
• 50:53
  They assumed it was him.
• 50:54
  That's pretty funny.
• 50:56
  So and to this day, she has a close relationship with her, and it she's a great grandmother, and she said it was just a beautiful gift.
• 51:02
  She said, I she was a gift, and she is still a gift to me.
• 51:08
  So that's my experiences with it.
• 51:10
  I do, you know, I must say that I did have a friend that I found out afterwards that did have an abortion.
• 51:18
  Uh she suffered from it mentally for years.
• 51:23
  I know that she when she got she did get pregnant again and she did have this baby and she gave it up for adopting adoption.
• 51:30
  So those are the the things that I've my experiences with uh abortion.
• 51:35
  Um I'm obviously against it, but I have to talk about Trump.
• 51:38
  All right.
• 51:39
  Now he is pro-life, but he also recognized that the experience of a woman is theirs.
• 51:48
  And what he did with Roe uh V Wade, he had it uh reinstated to going to the states.
• 51:57
  In other words, the the states decide.
• 52:00
  He they call him a dictator, they call him a king.
• 52:03
  If he in truly was a king or a dictator, and because he is so pro-life 100%, he could have made it federal law that abortions are abolished.
• 52:14
  But he didn't do that.
• 52:16
  He brought it down to the states and allowed people to now decide.
• 52:21
  And one by one, the states are you know recognizing that life does start, you know, at conception, and little by little, I think the the problem of uh abortion is starting to be solved by the people that originally were you know pro abortion, and little by little, I think that it's now you know going to be handled uh as a gift of life, and as I said, uh he could have made it a a uh a law of the land and he didn't do that.
• 52:55
  And what you're gonna start to see, you're gonna start seeing because the funding has been taken away from the planned parenthood, you know, they're shutting off some of the gas lines to the those institutions, lack of a better word, you're not going to see the propaganda as much anymore, which is good, which is a you know, there's progress there.
• 53:11
  And you know, when the reality hits and what has been done, it's it's gonna be uh a time of peace and healing, but we're not quite there yet.
• 53:18
  But um, before we end up, I just want to talk a bit about President Trump and what you know tell me all the things about him as someone who has lived your life.
• 53:31
  Why is he the most I want to say uh there's so many adjectives I could use why do you support him so and and and you you go back to back, you go you'll go right foot toe to toe with people, uh some of your friends, fan whatever about President Trump.
• 53:54
  What is it about him?
• 53:55
  And we have a few minutes left.
• 53:56
  Just tell me a little bit about why his presidency is so valuable, not just to this country, but you know, God and country.
• 54:06
  Uh, and if you think his second term is the trajectory that we need or don't need to, like you said, about the future for our kids at our grandchildren.
• 54:18
  Well, I consider him a grassroots president.
• 54:20
  I think he's a president for everybody.
• 54:23
  He he's non-discriminatory.
• 54:25
  He's a president for everybody.
• 54:27
  And his uh policies are for humanity.
• 54:33
  Uh it's it it's he wants make America great again, and because it had slipped, uh their their priorities had slipped and were redirect, you know, misdirected.
• 54:44
  And he saw that.
• 54:45
  And that's he simply wants to do that.
• 54:48
  People have to recognize he only has two and a half years left in presidency, yet they keep on referring to every time something's done, it's Trump Trump, Trump.
• 54:56
  These people should take on the policies and issues that are for the people of the United States, as he has, as instead of using him as the the uh talking point.
• 55:09
  Yeah, he's he's just a he's just a man that is doing his best for the country.
• 55:13
  He's grassroots, he he loves middle America, he loves everyday man.
• 55:18
  He believes everybody should have look what he's doing as far as setting up uh these little trusts for uh newborn children.
• 55:25
  Wonderful, and uh 401ks for people that don't have them.
• 55:29
  I mean, he's thinking about everybody.
• 55:30
  If he's not it's very he's not a personally direct, you know, directed he's just for the people.
• 55:38
  And I have to just say that the Democratic Party of John JFK was he's it's he almost emulates what it came from back then because that's how he was too.
• 55:48
  And uh he was more of a pragmatist too.
• 55:51
  I just relate him back there, and unfortunately, the country has evolved into something that is you know, socialist.
• 55:58
  Uh you have communists that are you know loudmouth all over, trying to infiltrate the young people in our country, and they're very vulnerable to that kind of um uh people speaking to them.
• 56:00
  That are, you know, loudmouth all over trying to infiltrate the young people in our country.
• 56:06
  And they're very vulnerable to that kind of um uh people speaking to them.
• 56:12
  Well, that's why Charlie, that's why Charlie Kirk had to be murdered.
• 56:12
  Well, that's why Charlie, that's why Charlie Kirk had to be murdered.
• 56:15
  I mean, that's the bottom line.
• 56:15
  I mean, that's the bottom line.
• 56:16
  He was getting to the youth.
• 56:16
  He was getting to the youth.
• 56:17
  But you know what, mom?
• 56:17
  But you know what, mom, I think that it that I really do think that uh it did the opposite of what they were trying to do.
• 56:18
  I think that it that I really do think that uh it did the opposite of what they were trying to do.
• 56:23
  And let's I'm trying to hope that the same will be for President Trump.
• 56:23
  And let's I'm trying to hope that the same will be for President Trump.
• 56:26
  So before we go out, who's gonna be the next president?
• 56:26
  So before we go out, who's gonna be the next president after Trump?
• 56:31
  Make a prediction.
• 56:33
  JD Vance or Marco Rubio.
• 56:35
  Okay.
• 56:35
  I like both.
• 56:36
  Um, and if that stays that way, we're in good shape.
• 56:39
  Well, thanks, Mom, for joining us today.
• 56:41
  And uh, we'll have more, and I'm sure everybody will enjoy this conversation.
• 56:44
  And I'll see you outside for coffee in a minute.
• 56:46
  Love you, mom.
• 56:47
  Okay, love you.
• 56:48
  Bye.
• 56:49
  Bye, I'm gonna be a little bit of