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Mega Edition: The Dubin Family, Ghislaine Maxwell And The Swedish Girl (10/10/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Epstein Chronicles. told some people that, well,
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  Speaker 1: he was going to marry this girl eventually. So let's
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  Speaker 1: jump into this sick and sordid relationship between Jeffrey Epstein
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  Speaker 1: and the Dubins. This article is from Insider. Headline, Uncle Jeff.
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein's relationship with the 24-year-old daughter of billionaire hedge
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  Speaker 1: fund founder Glenn Dubin is more complex than previously known.
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  Speaker 1: That is absolutely creepy as fuck and disgusting. There should
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  Speaker 1: be no relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and anyone's young daughter.
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  Speaker 1: This article was authored by Megan Morris and Becky Patterson.
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein died a bachelor. Died a scumbag, you mean.
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  Speaker 1: But the convicted pedophile told associates that he considered marrying
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  Speaker 1: the 24-year-old daughter of his ex-girlfriend. Business Insider has learned...
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  Speaker 1: Should that shock anyone? We all know what his proclivities were.
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  Speaker 1: And if you think that when he was hanging out
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  Speaker 1: with the Dubins, he didn't have his eye on their daughter,
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  Speaker 1: you are definitely wrong. Now, I don't know if, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he abused anybody with, you know, Dubins kids or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Never heard anything like that. But the fact that you
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  Speaker 1: would have this sick fucking guy around your kids is
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  Speaker 1: enough for me. You already knew he was a pedophile.
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  Speaker 1: You knew he was a diddler. But you're going to
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  Speaker 1: have your kids around them? You're going to have have
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  Speaker 1: your kid call him Uncle Jeff? The woman, Selina Dubin,
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  Speaker 1: is the daughter of the physician and former Miss Sweden,
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  Speaker 1: Eva Andersson Dubin, and the billionaire hedge fund manager, Glenn Dubin.
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  Speaker 1: Eva Andersson Dubin dated Epstein for 11 years, beginning in
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  Speaker 1: the 1980s, before she married Glenn Dubin in 1994. Epstein
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  Speaker 1: told associates that he had introduced the couple. Now look,
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  Speaker 1: when we're talking about Eva Dubin and Glenn Dubin and
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, I really believe that there is so much
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  Speaker 1: more here that we have not heard or uncovered. Now remember,
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  Speaker 1: Glenn Dubin has been directly named by Virginia Roberts as
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  Speaker 1: one of the men who she was trafficked to. So
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  Speaker 1: we should be hearing a lot more about this crazy,
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  Speaker 1: disgusting relationship. And we should certainly be hearing a lot
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  Speaker 1: more about the Dubins and them being compelled to testify.
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  Speaker 1: As recently as 2014, according to one source close to Epstein,
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  Speaker 1: he told associates that if he ever married, it would
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  Speaker 1: be to Selina Dubin, who was 19 at the time
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  Speaker 1: and once called him Uncle Jeff. There is no evidence
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  Speaker 1: that Epstein had ever had a romantic relationship with Selina Dubin,
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  Speaker 1: and his intent appears to have been financial. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because that's exactly what a pedophile's intent is. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Looking back at this article now
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  Speaker 1: from 2019 with hindsight, Boy, oh boy. It was financial? Yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 1: It was because he was a sick fucking guy, and
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  Speaker 1: he wanted himself a nice little, you know, nubile young girl,
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  Speaker 1: as him and Ghislaine were so, uh, fond of saying.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein told associates that he wanted her to inherit his fortune,
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  Speaker 1: including his private island in the Caribbean, the source said.
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  Speaker 1: and that marrying her would be a way to avoid
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  Speaker 1: inheritance taxes. Oh yeah, so that's the excuse, huh? You know,
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  Speaker 1: I love you so much that I want to marry you,
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  Speaker 1: even though you called me Uncle Jeff and I'm like
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  Speaker 1: part of your family, just because I want you to
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  Speaker 1: inherit my property. I'm pretty sure that if you just
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  Speaker 1: wrote her in as your beneficiary, that would be sufficient.
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  Speaker 1: The source provided Business Insider with handwritten notes taken after
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  Speaker 1: the fact, recounting the conversation. Around the same time in 2014,
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  Speaker 1: Epstein named Selina Dubin as a beneficiary of a trust,
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  Speaker 1: according to financial documents provided by a different source and
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  Speaker 1: reviewed by Business Insider. She was removed as a beneficiary
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  Speaker 1: in 2015, and the Dubins said they were not aware
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  Speaker 1: of the trust's existence. It's unclear how much money was
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  Speaker 1: in the trust while Selena was a beneficiary, but it
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  Speaker 1: totaled about $ 50 million in 2019, according to the source
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  Speaker 1: who is familiar with Epstein's finances. All right, a couple
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  Speaker 1: things there. One, he could have really meant to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: have a little something put aside for her. I doubt it.
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  Speaker 1: Or B, this was just another vehicle for him to
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  Speaker 1: launder some money. You know, he loved to launder money
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  Speaker 1: and he had all of these crazy ass offshore accounts
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  Speaker 1: and shell accounts and none of them were even real.
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  Speaker 1: But we know that he loved to try and avoid taxes.
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  Speaker 1: So would seem likely that this is just another scheme
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  Speaker 1: or plot. The Dubins are prominent socialites and philanthropists in
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  Speaker 1: New York City and Palm Beach, Florida. Imagine every single
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  Speaker 1: time we hear about one of these people that's sickos
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  Speaker 1: hanging out with Epstein. It's always, oh, they live in
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  Speaker 1: New York City and it's always, oh, they're a socialite
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  Speaker 1: and they're a philanthropist. Is that just like shorthand for
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  Speaker 1: sick bastard? Eva Anderson Dubin was for many years the
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  Speaker 1: in-house physician for NBC, and she founded the Dubin Breast
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  Speaker 1: Center of the Tisch Cancer Institute at Mount Sinai Health Systems.
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  Speaker 1: Glenn Dubin co-founded the hedge fund, Highbridge Capital Management. and
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  Speaker 1: now runs a quant fund called Engineer's Gate. Oh, isn't
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  Speaker 1: that nice? This guy's such an idiot, such a clown.
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  Speaker 1: And to tell you the truth, if it was anybody
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  Speaker 1: else who was being accused of the things he's accused of,
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  Speaker 1: they'd already be called before the carpet. This dude hasn't
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  Speaker 1: had to answer any questions. He hasn't had to come
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  Speaker 1: up and, you know... talk about what he knows about
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  Speaker 1: Epstein or even more importantly, what he knows about the
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  Speaker 1: situation with Virginia, considering what she said about him. And
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  Speaker 1: of course, we have to go back and look at
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  Speaker 1: all of the other accusations that she made and how
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  Speaker 1: truthful they all have been. Now that we see the
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  Speaker 1: court reports, now that we see the depositions come out.
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  Speaker 1: So if she's saying that this man also took part,
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  Speaker 1: we should definitely be paying attention. Selena Dubin is attending
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  Speaker 1: the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai. She graduated
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  Speaker 1: from Harvard University in 2017 and was named one of
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  Speaker 1: the 15 hottest freshmen in her class by the Harvard
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  Speaker 1: Crimson in 2014. She has been photographed on the red
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  Speaker 1: carpet of numerous charity events and written for Departures Magazine. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: isn't that nice? Good old dubin love, huh? Imagine being
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  Speaker 1: so rich, so powerful. Your parents have so much money
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  Speaker 1: that you're able to do whatever you want pretty much
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  Speaker 1: because that's basically her life, right? You think just anybody
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  Speaker 1: of no status is doing all the things she's doing?
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  Speaker 1: In August, Business Insider reported that the Dubin family has
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  Speaker 1: been tied financially, socially, and through philanthropy to Epstein for decades.
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  Speaker 1: In 2009, after Epstein's release from jail on charges of
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  Speaker 1: soliciting a child for prostitution, the Dubins wrote an email
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  Speaker 1: to his probation officer saying they were 100% comfortable with
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  Speaker 1: Epstein spending time with Selena Dubin, who was 14 at
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  Speaker 1: the time, and their two other minor children. I mean, what?
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  Speaker 1: You're comfortable with that, huh? Parents of the year here, folks.
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  Speaker 1: We got the greatest parents to ever walk the earth, obviously.
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  Speaker 1: Are you serious right now? You have no problem with
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  Speaker 1: Epstein around your children? He's a convicted sex offender of children.
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  Speaker 1: The existence of the trust in Epstein's interest in leaving
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  Speaker 1: his vast wealth to Selina Dubin suggests that his relationship
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  Speaker 1: with the Dubin family was more complex than had been
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  Speaker 1: previously known. In a statement, the Dubin family spokesman, Davidson Golden,
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  Speaker 1: said to Business Insider, Glenn saw him perhaps once a
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  Speaker 1: year in a large group setting and no business interactions
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  Speaker 1: with him whatsoever after 2008. Eva and Selena Dubin accepted
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  Speaker 1: less than a handful of invitations to gatherings that included
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  Speaker 1: the founder of Microsoft and the DNA pioneer. The Dubins
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  Speaker 1: are horrified by Jeffrey Epstein's despicable conduct. Had they been
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  Speaker 1: aware of it, they would have cut all ties instantly.
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  Speaker 1: Such bullshit and such lies. Oh, they were only around
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  Speaker 1: in big groups of people. And then they try and
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  Speaker 1: bring up these executives like we're supposed to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: think that because executives were there, everything's all good. Well,
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  Speaker 1: breaking news. Nobody believes the executives. Nobody believes any of
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  Speaker 1: this stuff at this point. Epstein established the Irrevocable Trust
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  Speaker 1: in 2004. Epstein, who died by suicide in August, allegedly,
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  Speaker 1: created the Irrevocable Trust, a common holding structure to reduce
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  Speaker 1: tax liabilities, in 2004. He transferred that trust from J.P.
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  Speaker 1: Morgan to Deutsche Bank, along with other entities in 2013,
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  Speaker 1: right after Jess Daly left J.P. Morgan, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: The trust contained about $ 50 million as of 2019, or
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  Speaker 1: close to 10% of the total value of Epstein's declared wealth,
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  Speaker 1: according to sources that are familiar with Epstein's finances. The trust,
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  Speaker 1: and others like it, appears to have been used in
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  Speaker 1: part to facilitate payments to women in Epstein's orbit, a
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  Speaker 1: slush fund. Let's just call it what it is, that's
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  Speaker 1: what it was, and I'm guessing you didn't pay any
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  Speaker 1: taxes on any of this. It names six people as
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  Speaker 1: beneficiaries and two as trustees, people who administer the account
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  Speaker 1: on behalf of the beneficiaries, according to a 2014 document
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  Speaker 1: viewed by Business Insider. The trustees were Epstein's New York-based accountant,
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  Speaker 1: Harry Beller, and Virgin Islands-based lawyer, Erica Kellerhals, both of
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  Speaker 1: whom worked with Epstein on various organizations he set up.
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  Speaker 1: Neither responded to requests for comment. Of course not. They
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  Speaker 1: know what they did, and they know who they were
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  Speaker 1: dealing with. They know that Epstein's an absolute scumbag, and
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  Speaker 1: they know that working with him is not really the
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  Speaker 1: best look. Selina Dubin was removed from the trust in
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  Speaker 1: 2015 and never received any payments from it, according to
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  Speaker 1: the source familiar with Epstein's finances. Three of Epstein's longtime
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  Speaker 1: female associates were also beneficiaries in 2014. All three women
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  Speaker 1: listed in the trust document as residing in New York
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  Speaker 1: City at 301 East 66th Street, the Upper East Side
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  Speaker 1: building home for years to members of Epstein's entourage. young models, girlfriends, pilots, lawyers,
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  Speaker 1: and in the 1980s, Eva Anderson Dubin. Now we know
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  Speaker 1: that that's the building where they'd bring these girls over
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  Speaker 1: that they're trafficking. They'd set them up there in an apartment.
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  Speaker 1: And then these girls who thought they were getting modeling
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  Speaker 1: jobs or, you know, going out to work in high
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  Speaker 1: fashion or whatever, instead were sent out to accompany Epstein's
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  Speaker 1: sick fucking friends. Two of the women named as beneficiaries
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  Speaker 1: married each other in 2013 at Epstein's direction so that one,
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  Speaker 1: who was from Eastern Europe, could gain legal residency. Business
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  Speaker 1: Insider previously reported, both are adults and have since divorced. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's a shock, huh? But again, another move. We talked
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  Speaker 1: about the scam marriages previously. It was certainly one of
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  Speaker 1: the weapons in their repertoire. None of the three women
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  Speaker 1: have come forward publicly, and because they may be victims
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  Speaker 1: of sexual abuse or trafficking, Business Insider is not naming them.
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  Speaker 1: Rounding out the list of beneficiaries, in 2014 were two
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  Speaker 1: longtime Epstein attorneys, Richard Kahn and Darren Indyke. Richard Kahn
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  Speaker 1: is actually an estates guy, like an accountant. and Indyk
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  Speaker 1: is the attorney. They're named on dozens of documents related
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  Speaker 1: to Epstein entities, including businesses and foundations, in various executive roles,
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  Speaker 1: including president, director, and treasurer. Neither Kahn nor Indyk responded
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  Speaker 1: to requests for comment. That should not shock you. They
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  Speaker 1: don't ever, ever, ever want to comment on this. Epstein
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  Speaker 1: moved money to alleged co-conspirators as recently as this year.
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  Speaker 1: The source familiar with Epstein's finances told Business Insider that
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  Speaker 1: Epstein also used other trusts and accounts held at Deutsche
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  Speaker 1: Bank to move money to people in his orbit, including
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  Speaker 1: women who have been identified both as victims and as
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  Speaker 1: co-conspirators in his sex trafficking scheme as recently as this year.
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  Speaker 1: Deutsche Bank is closely examining any relationship with Jeffrey Epstein,
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  Speaker 1: and we are absolutely committed to cooperating with all relevant authorities,
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  Speaker 1: a bank spokesman said in a statement. Yeah, that's why
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  Speaker 1: you guys got clipped with a huge-ass fine. Deutsche Bank
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  Speaker 1: is an absolute cesspool. They're like the modern-day Medici's, folks.
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  Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell, a longtime Epstein confidant, co-conspirator, who has been
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  Speaker 1: accused of recruiting women, convicted now, and girls for him,
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  Speaker 1: was named as a beneficiary on multiple trusts, the source said. Maxwell,
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  Speaker 1: who is reportedly in hiding, in prison now, could not
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  Speaker 1: be reached for comment, though she has denied all allegations
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  Speaker 1: of wrongdoing in the past. Her lawyer did not respond
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  Speaker 1: to a request for comment. And this was during the
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  Speaker 1: time when she was supposedly hiding from everybody. Oh, she's
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  Speaker 1: so scared. Nadia Marchenko, who was described as Epstein's sex
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  Speaker 1: slave in police records and alleged by multiple accusers to
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  Speaker 1: have participated in sex acts with Epstein and underage girls,
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  Speaker 1: was the recipient of payments earlier this year, the source said. Look,
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  Speaker 1: I have a hard time casting Nadia Marchenko along with
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  Speaker 1: the other core four. With all we know now and
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  Speaker 1: all of the information we have about how Nadia was
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  Speaker 1: brought into this, she is one of the most sympathetic
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  Speaker 1: people in the whole entire story. You want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about a victim? This girl was sold to Epstein as
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  Speaker 1: a little girl, according to reports, and then groomed and
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  Speaker 1: trauma bounded and all of that stuff. So when we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about victims of Epstein, I definitely put Nadia in
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  Speaker 1: that list, especially at this point. With hindsight and everything
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  Speaker 1: we know, she most certainly was a victim. In recent years,
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  Speaker 1: Epstein also sent money to about half a dozen women
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  Speaker 1: in Russia who appeared to be models, the source said,
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  Speaker 1: describing some of the transactions as apparent tuition payments. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: tuition payments. They loved girls from Eastern Europe, folks. Epstein
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  Speaker 1: and Brunel, they loved it. Before he died, prosecutors accused
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  Speaker 1: Epstein of using his vast wealth to influence individuals who
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  Speaker 1: were close to him during the time period charged in
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  Speaker 1: this case and who might be witnesses against him at
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  Speaker 1: a trial. In particular, they cited large money transfers to
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  Speaker 1: two unnamed potential co-conspirators. One received $ 100, 000, the other $ 250, 000
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  Speaker 1: in late 2018. Where I'm from, we call that hush money.
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  Speaker 1: Deutsche Bank terminated its relationship with Epstein in 2018 after
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  Speaker 1: reporting in the Miami Herald reignited public outrage over his crimes,
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  Speaker 1: according to the Wall Street Journal. As the bank wound
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  Speaker 1: down Epstein's accounts in the summer. The source familiar with
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's finances told Business Insider most of the $ 50 million
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  Speaker 1: in the trust of which Selena Dubin had been a
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  Speaker 1: beneficiary went to an Epstein account at First Bank Puerto Rico,
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  Speaker 1: which took over most of Epstein's banking. A representative for
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  Speaker 1: First Bank did not respond to a request for comment.
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  Speaker 1: No one ever wants to comment. And when they do comment,
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  Speaker 1: they all have amnesia, right? Oh, I don't remember hanging
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  Speaker 1: out with Epstein. I don't know Jeffrey Epstein. We never
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  Speaker 1: hung out, never been around him. Who's that? It's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely crazy. It's legally possible that the beneficiaries of the
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  Speaker 1: 2004 trust, including Selena Dubin, didn't know there were beneficiaries
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  Speaker 1: at all, according to William LaPlana, a New York law
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  Speaker 1: school's professor of wills, trusts, and estates. LaPlana said Epstein
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  Speaker 1: could have used money from the trust to buy gifts
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  Speaker 1: for the beneficiaries, and the source close to Epstein said
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  Speaker 1: he loved to buy presents for close companions and high-profile contacts. No,
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  Speaker 1: he liked to spend hush money. He wasn't the guy
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  Speaker 1: that's spending a lot of money, folks, right? Wasn't a
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  Speaker 1: man who loved to throw around dough. We're not talking
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  Speaker 1: about some, you know, Italian guy walking in and sliding
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  Speaker 1: a hundy into everyone's pocket who's in the restaurant. The
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  Speaker 1: one who never failed him. The Dubin's long history with
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  Speaker 1: Epstein dates back to the 1980s, when he dated Eva
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  Speaker 1: Anderson Dubin for more than a decade, his longest relationship
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  Speaker 1: and first serious girlfriend. Eva married Glenn Dubin in 1994.
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  Speaker 1: The couple had three children, starting with Selena Dubin. Epstein
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  Speaker 1: became particularly close to Selena Dubin, according to a dossier
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  Speaker 1: that Epstein's defense attorneys prepared for him in 2007 before
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  Speaker 1: he pleaded guilty to soliciting a minor for prostitution in Florida.
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  Speaker 1: Meaning raping a child. No such thing as a child prostitute, right?
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  Speaker 1: The document, which was first published by the Palm Beach
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  Speaker 1: Post in October, relies on statements gathered from close Epstein associates,
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  Speaker 1: including Eva and Selena Dubin, who was 12 years old
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  Speaker 1: at the time. Now, think about that. Your mom has
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  Speaker 1: you write a note about a guy who's on trial
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  Speaker 1: for soliciting children for prostitution for being a child molester.
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  Speaker 1: And your mom thinks it's a good idea that 12
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  Speaker 1: year old you should write a note for him. Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: has enjoyed an especially close relationship with Selina, 12 the
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  Speaker 1: dossier said. Selina wrote glowingly of their weekly science lessons.
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  Speaker 1: When Uncle Jeff, as she calls him, takes time from
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  Speaker 1: his personal and business schedule to go over to her
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  Speaker 1: apartment and discuss science and mathematics lessons she is learning
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  Speaker 1: at school. Wait, I thought that they only seen each
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  Speaker 1: other in intimate settings. I mean, in busy settings with
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  Speaker 1: other people around. Isn't that what the spokesman for the
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  Speaker 1: Dubin said earlier in this article? They can't keep their
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  Speaker 1: stories together, folks. They can't keep them straight. The document
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  Speaker 1: quotes Selena Dubin recalling the time her father was too
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  Speaker 1: busy at work to accompany her to father-daughter dance day
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  Speaker 1: at her ballroom dancing class. I got to the class alone,
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  Speaker 1: she wrote, but then, soon enough, a quick phone call
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  Speaker 1: to Uncle Jeff didn't leave me standing there alone for
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  Speaker 1: more than 10 minutes. Uncle Jeff substituted for my father
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  Speaker 1: that night, and the way he rushed to the class
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  Speaker 1: felt exactly like having my father there. This poor kid
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  Speaker 1: being used as a prop basically to try and get
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein off of these disgusting ass charges. Her parents
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  Speaker 1: should be ashamed honestly. Some information in the dossier is
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  Speaker 1: at odds with recent claims the Dubins have made about
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  Speaker 1: their relationship with Epstein. For instance, multiple sources have told
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  Speaker 1: Business Insider that Epstein was Selina Dubin's godfather. But through spokespeople,
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  Speaker 1: the Dubins have repeatedly denied it both to Business Insider
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  Speaker 1: and to other outlets, Vanity Fair, for instance. quoted a
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  Speaker 1: source close to the Dubin saying, Dubins are Jewish and
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  Speaker 1: Jewish people don't typically do godparents. I don't know anything
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  Speaker 1: about any of that. I'm Italian and we do the
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  Speaker 1: godparent thing. The dossier, however, contains repeated unambiguous statements from
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  Speaker 1: Eva Anderson Dubin to the contrary. Today, Jeffrey is a
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  Speaker 1: very close and important friend to my family. He is
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  Speaker 1: the godfather of my three children and is a close
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  Speaker 1: friend of my husband as well. She later added, I
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  Speaker 1: could not ask for a better friend or godfather to
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  Speaker 1: my children. And remember when Eva Anderson Dubin was on
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  Speaker 1: the stand in the Maxwell trial? Oh, I have memory
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  Speaker 1: issues and the whole thing. Yeah, I bet you have
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: memory issues. Golden, the Dubin's spokesperson, said Eva Anderson Dubin
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: was mistaken, writing in an email, none of the Dubin's
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: three children have any godparents. In 2009, Epstein's former house manager,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Alfredo Rodriguez, attempted to sell Epstein's little black book for $ 50, 000
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: to an attorney representing one of Epstein's accusers. The lawyer
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: alerted the FBI, and Rodriguez was arrested in a sting
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: operation on charges of obstruction of justice. agencies both the
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: address book and handwritten notes, which included email addresses and
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: phone numbers for key figures that Rodriguez had prepared for
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: the attorney to aid him in his case. The notes
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: included a phone number for the Dubins with the notation
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Eva Anderson Dubin, former model and mother of naked pic.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Holy Toledo. Imagine mother of naked pic. What the fuck
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: does that mean? Does he have naked pictures of this
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: poor kid? Look, I wouldn't put it by him. Now,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: do I know for sure? I don't know. But would
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: it shock you? Rodriguez died in 2015. It's unclear what
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: picture his notes refer to. Epstein told associates he was
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: at the hospital when Eva Anderson Dubin gave birth to Selena,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: the source close to Epstein said. The person said the financier, pedophile,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: characterized Selena Dubin as his sole heir, telling others that
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: the young woman was the only one who never failed him.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: The source said there was nothing untoward about their relationship.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Epstein did not visit Eva in the hospital when any
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: of her children were born, Golden in an email said.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: So what do you believe? Do you believe what this
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: guy has to say? I don't. I don't. We can't
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: believe what the Dubins are putting out there, I guess,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: is my point. Eva and Selena Dubin were invited to
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: meet with prominent guests, including DNA pioneer James Watson. When
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Epstein was arrested in July, the Dubin spokesperson at the
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: time said Eva was shocked by the latest round of allegations,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: saying that their relationship had faded after his release from
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: jail in 2008. She is a very loyal friend and
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: didn't abandon him after 2008. But the frequency of their
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: contact was less, the representative told the New York Times
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: in July. Such a lie. But the Dubins did not
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: keep Epstein at arm's length. The source close to Epstein
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: told Business Insider that Eva and Selena Dubin were at
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: his home within the past year. Of course they were. Look,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: the Dubins were super close to Epstein. They knew what
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: he was and they didn't care. And they still let
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: him hang out with the daughter. Epstein spent at least
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: one major holiday with the family in 2009, just months
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: after his release from jail. They invited him to Thanksgiving
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: celebration at their Palm Beach home, Business Insider previously reported.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Must have been a fantastic turkey day, huh? Turkey and
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: a pedophile. What a fucking combination. Eva and Selena Dubin...
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: were often invited for dinner when Epstein hosted prominent guests.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: The source close to the financier, Pedophile, said, Some of
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: these meetings have been documented in recent months. Eva Anderson
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Dubin attended a celebrity-filled party for Prince Andrew in 2010
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: at Epstein's New York mansion, according to the New York Times.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: In 2011, Eva and Selena Dubin met with Bill Gates
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: and Epstein, again at Epstein's New York home, the Times reported.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Bill Gates, another guy with Epstein amnesia, huh? How great
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: is it to watch his whole entire narrative crumble? How
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: great is it for him to be exposed as the
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: scumbag he is? One obviously unreported meeting took place within
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: the past two years, a different source with knowledge of
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: the matter said. At Epstein's New York mansion, Eva and
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Selina Dubin met with James Watson, the scientist who helped
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: discover DNA and has been stripped of awards after repeatedly
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: making racist remarks. Watson, who was in his 90s, could
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: not be reached for comment and his sons did not
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: respond for requests for comment. Dr. Watson said, was an
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: introductory meeting that included a physician, medical students, and several
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: other attendees for discussion about his work and accomplishments, Golden
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: said in an email. The meeting was not over dinner
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: or lunch, he added, as if that matters. Why is
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Eva Dubin bringing her kid to meet Jeffrey Epstein? That's
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: really the question. Smaller clues in Epstein's footprint also point
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: to his relationship with Selina Dubin. His Spotify account included
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: a 2011 playlist called Selena, largely with music from the
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: DJ David Guetta. Epstein had publicly linked to another Selena,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Selena Middelfart, a Norwegian businesswoman who dated Donald Trump. Middelfart
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: was on Epstein's private plane several times in 1996 and 1997,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: according to flight records, but has not been publicly tied
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: to him since then. Now we heard from Middelfart as
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: well during the trials. And again, all of these people
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: that were around him, especially in these days, the early days, especially,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: they know what was up. They knew what was up.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: And anyone saying any different, well, I just don't believe them.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Epstein and Selena Dubin were connected through charities as well.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: In 2009, when Epstein wanted to contribute to Eva Anderson
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Dubin's breast cancer organization, the Dubin Breast Cancer Center of
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: the Tisch Cancer Institute at Mount Sinai, he understood that
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: a public donation from a registered sex offender might not
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: be welcomed. Business Insider previously reported, citing a source familiar
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: with the donations, that Eva Anderson Dubin established a new
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: nonprofit called the Selena Dubin United Fund to serve as
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: a pass-through. In 2013, according to the source familiar with
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: the matter, Glenn Dubin learned about the arrangement and asked
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: his wife to wind it down. So basically, it was
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: a way to wash the money. Now, they weren't laundering it,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: but it's a way to wash the money. They wanted
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: to wash the stink of Epstein off it, so she
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: started a non-prof. Well, Glenn Dubin got a whiff of
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: it and had her shut it down because he knew
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: what was coming next. Though the foundation was named for
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: her and administered by her mother, Selina Dubin was unaware
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: of the setup, the source said. Some of Epstein's other
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: charities overlapped with Selina Dubin's interests, including a 2016 $ 10, 000
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: donation to the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: where Selina is now a third-year medical student. That year,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Epstein also donated $ 50, 000 to Harvard's Hasty Pudding Institute, according
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: to tax documents from his foundation. Epstein... published a press
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: release in 2014 touting his donations to the theater club,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: which counted Selena Dubin as a member when she was
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: a Harvard undergrad. You see the pattern here yet, folks?
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: For him to act like there's nothing more there, like
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: the relationship with Selena is just, you know, the typical
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: relationship that you would have with your friend's kid is
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: just Looney Tunes. We know that it's a lot different, obviously.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: At least in his mind, he wanted it to be different.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Epstein had another connection to Hasty Pudding. He was friendly
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: with the organization's chairman, the billionaire real estate magnate, Andrew Farkas,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: though he does not appear to have donated to the
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: group before Selena Dubin went to Harvard. The Dubins have
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: either denied or said that they have no recollection of
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: a host of allegations surrounding the Epstein saga, some of
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: which were made under sworn testimony and unsealed in recent months,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: including an accusation that they hired a college student trained
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: in erotic massage by Epstein for a massage at their
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Palm Beach home, that Glenn Dubin had sex with Epstein
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: accuser Virginia Roberts after she gave a massage to Eva,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: and that they hired a Swedish teenager as a short-term
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: nanny after she said she was forced into sexual activity
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: on Epstein's island. Glenn and Eva Dubin are outraged by
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: the allegations in the unsealed court records, which are demonstrably
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: false and defamatory, a spokesperson said in September when the
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: record became public the Dubins have flight records and other
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: evidence that definitively disprove that any such events occurred oh
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: please give me a break if it's so true and
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: you've been defamed so much why don't you sue somebody
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: you got all the money in the world all the
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: lawyers in the world get out there and sue someone
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: New possibilities for Epstein's accusers. It's unclear whether the 2004
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: trust still exists, but experts contacted by Business Insider said
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: a trust like it could be used to shield Epstein's
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: assets from the 26 women, only 26 at this point,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: mind you, who are suing his estate over allegations that
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: they are survivors of an extensive sex trafficking operation. So
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: think about how much it ballooned when they opened it
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: up and more women came forward. And now think about
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: how many women we still haven't heard from. New York
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Law School's LaPlana said that Epstein's accusers might have grounds
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: to try to access whatever money remains in the trust,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: or others like it, which could amount to tens of
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: millions of dollars, if lawyers can find it. In mid-November,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: the executors of Epstein's estate in Daikin Khan asked a
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: judge in the U.S. Virgin Islands to create a fund
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: to compensate Epstein's accusers. Overseen by the New York-based attorney
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Jordana Feldman and famous mediator Kenneth Feinberg, who worked on
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: similar funds for the victims of September 11th' s terrorist attacks
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: and other incidents, the fund would pay out accusers confidentially. Now,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: we know that that all came into place. We know
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: the fund paid out money. But it didn't pay out enough,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: did it? We know that it should have paid out
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: a whole lot more. In return, the women would give
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: up their rights to litigation and the estate would have
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: no say in which accusers received payment. Earlier this month,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: the lawyers asked a judge for an expedited approval of
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: this fund. Eric Faduli, an attorney for the Bloom firm,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: which is representing five Epstein survivors, said the very existence
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: of the 2004 trust raises questions about what exactly is
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: in Epstein's estate. He said it could also point to
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: conflict of interest issues, since the estate's executors, Kahn and Indyk,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: were beneficiaries of the 2004 trust, at least as of 2004.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: All the plaintiffs are frustratingly in the dark about the
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: details of this program. That what's in the estate and
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: what it includes, Fidali said, the trust adds to the
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: list of factors we're considering as to what route we'll choose.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: There's no precedent with a man like Jeffrey Epstein. He's
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: the most prolific predator of our time. He's a real
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: monster and destroyed the lives of countless girls and women. Well, folks,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: there you have it. Glenn Dubin. Eva Dubin, the relationship
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: with Epstein, their daughter. I mean, can you get a
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: more sordid tale? This is like an episode of Twilight Zone.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Every single time you dig deeper, it gets more and
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: more bizarre. If you'd like to contact me, you can
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: do that at bobbycapucci at protonmail.com. That's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I at protonmail.com.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: You can also find me on Twitter at B-O-B-B-Y underscore C-A-P-U-C-C-I.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: The link that we discussed can be found in the
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: of the Epstein Chronicles. One of the people that was
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: closest to Jeffrey Epstein was a man named Glenn Dubin. Well,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: him and his wife, Eva Anderson Dubin, were so close
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: to Jeffrey Epstein that even after his conviction for his crimes,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: they had him over for Thanksgiving dinner with them and
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: their children, including one daughter who Jeffrey Epstein said he
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: was going to marry. So we've talked about this story previously,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: but we haven't talked about it in quite some time.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: So with all the new interest in what's going on
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: with Epstein and the fact that we're going to be
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: talking a little bit more about the Dubins, why don't
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: we dive into this story from the Daily Mail and
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: talk about what Ronaldo Rizzo, the butler who worked for
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: the Dubins, had to say. Headline, butler who worked for
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: billionaire couple friendly with Jeffrey Epstein says he met 15-year-old
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Swedish girl who was pedophile sex slave while she was
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: held hostage on his island. But nobody's talked to the Dubins.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: No kind of investigation. No sort of deposition. Nothing. So remember,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: when they tell you that there's nothing to see here,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: they're lying to you. The author of this article is
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Ariel Zilber. A 15-year-old Swedish girl was allegedly confined to
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein's private island and kept there as
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: a sex slave. It has been claimed in newly unsealed
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: court documents. The horrific allegations were made by a butler
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: who worked for hedge fund billionaire Glenn Dubin and his wife,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Eva Anderson Dubin. During a 2016 deposition, which was revealed
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: publicly for the first time on Friday, the butler, Ronaldo Rizzo,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: tearfully described seeing a 15-year-old girl in his boss's kitchen
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: in 2005. Now, can you imagine? You're there as the butler,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: doing whatever it is the butler does, and this girl
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: shows up in the kitchen and she's crying? and you
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: find out that she's been held hostage? How is it
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: that you don't go absolutely Incredible Hulk right at that
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: point and go batshit crazy? I wouldn't even care about
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: what happened afterwards. The ramifications wouldn't even matter to me.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: If I thought some girl was being held hostage, I'd
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: go absolutely berserk. But unfortunately, that's not what Mr. Rizzo did.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Rizzo testified in his deposition that the girl was brought
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: to the home by Maxwell and Epstein, who are visiting
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: the Dubins. Anderson Dubin, a former Miss Sweden, once dated
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. The butler said that the girl reminded him
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: of other girls he saw at Epstein's home. Yeah, the
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: girls from MC Squared that were being brought there by
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Jean-Luc Brunel to live with Jeffrey Epstein. Those girls. And
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: if you notice, we talked about that previously when I
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: was talking about the pipeline. And all of it's going
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: to dovetail together. So all these players that we talk about,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: they're going to play a bigger part in the overall
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: story as we continue to build it out. And the
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Dubins certainly play a gigantic role. But when we're talking
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: about one of the true monsters, one of the true
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: evil people that was with Epstein, and there was a
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: lot of them, but one of the most evil, most
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: certainly was Jean-Luc Brunel. He was bringing all those little
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: 15-year-old girls from the modeling agency anyway to Jeffrey Epstein's townhouse.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: And not only that, But the good ones, quote-unquote, were
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: living at Jeffrey Epstein's townhouse. Now imagine that for a minute.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Rizzo said the girl sat in a stool next to
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: a kitchen counter in the Dubin's home. She was distraught
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: and shaking, literally quivering, as she described her treatment at
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: the hands of Epstein's alleged madam and her assistant, Sarah Kellan,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: in the U.S. Virgin Islands. No arrest for Sarah Kellan, huh?
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: I guess this Swedish girl doesn't matter. I guess none
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: of these other girls matter. because, you know, it's time
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: to move on, right? Nothing left to see here. No
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: investigation to be had. He claims that he told her
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: that they demanded sex from her and that they had
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: taken away her passport and threatened her when she refused.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Rizzo testified in a deposition, which was part of Roberts'
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: defamation lawsuit brought against Maxwell. Virginia Roberts also accused Glenn
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Dubin of participating in the sex trafficking ring, according to
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: court documents. The Dubins have denied these allegations with a
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: spokesperson for the couple telling DailyMail.com Glenn and Eva Dubin
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: are outraged by the allegations against them in the unsealed
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: court records and categorically reject them. Well, that settles it then, huh?
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: They rejected it. They deny it. I guess it's true.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Said nobody ever. Glenn Dubin's bitch ass should be on
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: the clock. The things that I've personally heard Virginia say
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: about this man are enough to make your skin crawl.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: So I have no idea how anybody out there who
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: calls himself law enforcement, who's in a position of power,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: hasn't had any interest in what Glenn Dubin was up
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: to with Jeffrey Epstein. And never mind just the disgusting-ass
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: sexual abuse, there was definitely financial impropriety going on as well. What,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: you think these guys were following the rules? You think
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: they were doing what the regulators told them to do?
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Or on the flip side, do you think they were
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: hiding their money overseas and in things like high-end art?
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: because you damn well know guys like Glenn Dubin and
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein are not paying their taxes, at least not
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: the amount that they should be. Rizzo said the girl
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: sat in a stool next to a kitchen counter in
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: the Dubin's home. She was distraught and shaking, literally quivering,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: as she described the treatment at the hands of Epstein's
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: alleged madam, Ghislaine Maxwell, and his assistant, Sarah Kellan, in
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: the U.S. Virgin Islands. She sat down and sat in
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: the stool exactly the way the girls that I mentioned
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: to you sat at Jeffrey's house. with no expression, and
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: with her head down, Rizzo testified. According to Rizzo, he
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: introduced himself and his wife to the teen after Anderson
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Dubin stepped out of the kitchen for a few moments.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: She doesn't really respond, Rizzo testified. Nothing verbal, no cues,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: her head is still down. I asked her if she
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: would like some water, tissue, anything. and she basically doesn't respond.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Rizzo testified that he then tried to make small talk
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: with the teen. Oh, by the way, do you work
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: for Jeffrey? He asked her. Yes, the 15-year-old replied. What
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: do you do? He asked. I'm Jeffrey's executive assistant, personal assistant,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: she said. Epstein had a bunch of 15-year-old girls as
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: personal assistants and massage therapists. I mean, really? 15-year-old girls?
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Breaking news, 15-year-old girls aren't executive assistants, personal assistants, or
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: massage therapists. They're little girls. Rizzo said she appeared way
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: too young for that. He then asked her how she
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: got her job and her age. And she says to me,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: point blank, I'm 15, Rizzo testified. and I said to her,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: you're 15 years old, and you have a position like that?
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: At that point, she just breaks down hysterical, and I
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: feel like I just said something wrong, and she will
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: not stop crying. Rizzo testified that at this point, he
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: and his wife tried to console the young girl. He
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: said they offered her tissue and water, but this did
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: not help her calm down. Yo, tissue and water? I
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: don't think that's gonna cut it. This girl's being abused
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: by Maxwell, by Epstein, by Kellen Vickers, And God knows
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: who else on that island. And you're offering her water
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: and tissues? The time for that is long come and gone.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: The only thing you should be offering up at this
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  Speaker 1: point is knuckle sandwiches. And then, in a state of shock,
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  Speaker 1: she just lets it rip. And what she told me
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  Speaker 1: was unbelievable, Rizzo testified. She proceeded to tell my wife
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  Speaker 1: and I. I was on the island. And there was Ghislaine,
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  Speaker 1: and there was Sarah, and she said they asked me
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  Speaker 1: for sex. I said no. Rizzo then said she didn't
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  Speaker 1: specify who asked for sex. She said they asked for sex.
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  Speaker 1: According to Rizzo, after the young girl refused to have sex,
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  Speaker 1: Kellen took the young girl's phone and passport and gave
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: them to Maxwell. How in the fuck is Sarah Kellen
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  Speaker 1: Vickers walking free? I mean, holy cow. Imagine if she'd
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: sell some drugs. Forget it. They'd be kicking in her
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: door the next day. But as long as she's abusing
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  Speaker 1: vulnerable girls, little girls that can't protect themselves, that's okay.
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  Speaker 1: We'll just let that pass. And at that point, she
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: said she was threatened, Rizzo testified. And I said, threatened?
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  Speaker 1: She says, yes. I was threatened by Ghislaine not to
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  Speaker 1: discuss this. Oh, isn't that your golden girl? The girl
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  Speaker 1: that you want to get a pardon for? How long
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  Speaker 1: before she's in Steve Bannon's war room? And I said, threatened?
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  Speaker 1: She says, yes, I was threatened by Ghislaine not to
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  Speaker 1: discuss this. After Rizzo asked the girl if she spoke
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  Speaker 1: to her parents, she says, I'm not supposed to talk
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  Speaker 1: about this. Rizzo testified that the teen told him Epstein
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  Speaker 1: threatened her to keep quiet about what she knew. The
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  Speaker 1: word she uses was sex, he testified. As far as
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  Speaker 1: the girl's emotional state was concerned, Rizzo said that she
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  Speaker 1: was shaking uncontrollably. Rizzo testified that the girl stopped answering
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  Speaker 1: questions when she realized that someone was heading toward the kitchen.
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  Speaker 1: It was Eva Anderson Dubin, according to Rizzo. Eva comes
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  Speaker 1: in and tells her that she will be working for
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  Speaker 1: Eva in the city, Rizzo testified as a nanny. Rizzo
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  Speaker 1: testified that he saw the girl about a month later
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  Speaker 1: on board a flight with the Dubin family to Sweden. Yo,
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  Speaker 1: who is this girl? Can you imagine what this poor
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  Speaker 1: girl went through? And keep in mind, For anybody out
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  Speaker 1: there that might think it's a good idea to pardon
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  Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell. Over a thousand victims. How many girls have
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  Speaker 1: we never even heard of? She was dropped off at
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  Speaker 1: an airport in the Scandinavian country, according to Rizzo. Rizzo
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  Speaker 1: testified in a deposition, which was part of a defamation
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  Speaker 1: lawsuit brought by Virginia Roberts against Maxwell. The case was
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: settled in 2017, but 2,000 pages of documents from the
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  Speaker 1: proceedings were ordered unsealed on Friday by the U.S. Court
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  Speaker 1: of Appeals for the Second Circuit. Roberts, who alleged that
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: she was Epstein and Maxwell's sex slave, accused Glenn Dubin
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  Speaker 1: of participating in the sex trafficking ring, according to court documents.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein is pleaded not guilty to criminal charges of sex
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  Speaker 1: trafficking in girls as young as 14 from at least
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  Speaker 1: 2002 to 2005. Maxwell has not been criminally charged, Reuters
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  Speaker 1: was not immediately able to reach Maxwell for comment. The
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  Speaker 1: documents were released after the appeals court rejected her bid
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  Speaker 1: to keep them under seal. Glenn and Eva Dubin are
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: outraged by the allegations in the unsealed court records, which
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: are demonstrably false and defamatory, a spokesperson for the family
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  Speaker 1: told the Daily Beast on Friday. The Dubins have flight
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: records and other evidence that definitively disprove that any such
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: event occurred. Glenn Dubin is the billionaire co-founder of Highbridge
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Capital Management. His net worth is valued at $ 2. 1 billion,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: according to Forbes. In 1994, he married Eva, a former
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: model who became a doctor. After she survived breast cancer,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: the couple donated millions of dollars to found Dubin Breast
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Cancer at Mount Sinai Medical Center, which opened in 2011.
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  Speaker 1: They have three children. Before marrying Glenn Dubin, Eva Anderson
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: dated Epstein. After Epstein was arrested for sex trafficking, Anderson
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Dubin released a statement to the New York Times saying
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: that the allegations are completely counter to the person she
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: is familiar with. As more details emerged about Epstein's alleged behavior,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: the couple released another statement saying the Dubins are horrified
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: by the allegations against Jeffrey Epstein. Had they been aware
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: of the vile and unspeakable conduct described in these new allegations,
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  Speaker 1: they would have cut ties and certainly never allowed their
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: children to be in his presence. Yeah, sure. You knew
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: he was a child molester, and Uncle Jeffy still had
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: a place at Thanksgiving dinner right next to your kids,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: didn't he? So save the bullshit. Because Glenn Dubin and
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Eva Anderson Dubin are some of the people that were
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: the closest to Jeffrey Epstein. And not only that, but
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: let's remember that Glenn Dubin was not only friendly with Epstein,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: but according to Virginia Roberts, partook in the abuse. So
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: that puts them on a different level. We have different
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: circles for these scumbags. We have enablers, we have co-conspirators,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: and then we have the people that were partaking in
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: the abuse. And those scumbags are the worst of the worst.
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  Speaker 1: And according to Virginia Roberts, that's the club that Glenn
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Dubin belongs to. All of the information that goes with
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