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- 0:00Speaker 1: Yeah, they're using military grade psychological warfare weapons directly on you.
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- 1:29Speaker 1: Hey, today we're gonna find out why they want us
- 1:32Speaker 1: to hate Donald Trump, and.
- 1:34Speaker 5: It might be because Iran so far away.
- 1:41Speaker 6: Today we got Shadowgate, a twenty twenty film directed by
- 1:46Speaker 6: Milli Weaver and actually distributed by Info Wars at the time.
- 1:52Speaker 6: Milli Weaver was connected to Alex Jones and the whole
- 1:56Speaker 6: info War sector.
- 1:57Speaker 5: We thought it's always good to go.
- 1:59Speaker 6: Through these two twenty documentaries every now and then because
- 2:02Speaker 6: there was a lot going on, and now that we
- 2:04Speaker 6: have time and a scope better to like look back
- 2:08Speaker 6: at it. It's it's interesting the things that come across.
- 2:11Speaker 1: I gotta say too, I don't know how many quote
- 2:14Speaker 1: unquote conspiracy documentaries I was watching in the twenty twenties.
- 2:18Speaker 1: I think I got most of my good fill in
- 2:21Speaker 1: up through like the mid two thousands and then like
- 2:24Speaker 1: one here and there, but definitely not any Millie Weaver documentaries.
- 2:30Speaker 1: Use that word a little bit strained, But this was
- 2:32Speaker 1: a new one for me. Man I didn't even know
- 2:34Speaker 1: it existed, and I didn't even know about like all
- 2:37Speaker 1: the drama between her and info Wars, and now I
- 2:41Speaker 1: guess they're not in the same situation as that, who
- 2:44Speaker 1: is right, Like, we've all moved on quite a bit
- 2:46Speaker 1: since then.
- 2:47Speaker 6: And for me, twenty twenty was an interesting year because again,
- 2:51Speaker 6: like you, I've watched like a lot of Alex Jones
- 2:54Speaker 6: and Jordan Maxwell and different documentaries and all this stuff
- 2:58Speaker 6: prior to twenty twenty right. But what I call twenty
- 3:01Speaker 6: twenty is my unretirement year because for a long time,
- 3:04Speaker 6: when Donald Trump got elected, I was like, all right, it's.
- 3:06Speaker 5: Donald Trump, ver's Hillary.
- 3:08Speaker 6: I don't care, like right, like that, it's so obvious
- 3:10Speaker 6: and people didn't notice it.
- 3:12Speaker 5: I was like, I don't care anymore. And then in
- 3:14Speaker 5: twenty twenty I.
- 3:15Speaker 6: Came out of retirement to help you guys decipher some
- 3:18Speaker 6: of this stuff. It didn't work as well because people
- 3:20Speaker 6: are so far in for but hey, I'm still trying, right,
- 3:23Speaker 6: And in this film I actually got like really deep
- 3:27Speaker 6: in all the.
- 3:27Speaker 5: Documentaries in twenty twenty.
- 3:28Speaker 6: That's how like the All for Floyd and stuff like that,
- 3:31Speaker 6: because people were just popping up on my feed's always
- 3:33Speaker 6: getting interested to watch this. And at the time I
- 3:35Speaker 6: thought this was a really really good one where they
- 3:37Speaker 6: talk about the intelligence contractors and this quote unquote Shadowgate
- 3:43Speaker 6: and pretty much Edward Snowden nsa whistled blowing but like
- 3:47Speaker 6: two an extreme right times ten on a different scale.
- 3:51Speaker 6: It's about the same range, but new players plotting the course.
- 4:06Speaker 6: So this documentary follows whistleblower, Tory Mayors and Patrick Bergee.
- 4:12Speaker 6: So two you have to through just to get it
- 4:16Speaker 6: out there right away.
- 4:17Speaker 5: You pretty much have to take their word for a
- 4:19Speaker 5: lot of it.
- 4:19Speaker 6: Right They try to trust me Bro, the two whistleblowers,
- 4:23Speaker 6: not that whistleblowers or liars or anything, but again it
- 4:28Speaker 6: it has some elements to where you have to pay
- 4:30Speaker 6: a pretty much. The predominant is is Tory and Patrick
- 4:34Speaker 6: throughout the film telling you, like you said, trust me Bro.
- 4:37Speaker 5: And one of their their claims is.
- 4:39Speaker 6: That they argue that post nine eleven surveillance has expanded
- 4:44Speaker 6: to digital infrastructure.
- 4:46Speaker 5: Hello, like that.
- 4:48Speaker 6: Kind of a little bit obvious, Like if you didn't
- 4:50Speaker 6: know that they're using chilcial media platforms to take your
- 4:55Speaker 6: information and use it for nefarious reasons.
- 4:57Speaker 5: I don't know if everybody knew that, but Kat's out
- 4:59Speaker 5: of the bag.
- 5:01Speaker 1: When this documentary started and they brought these two you know,
- 5:04Speaker 1: whistleblowers out, I was like, Okay, not like this. It's
- 5:07Speaker 1: already a little bit more than I anticipated and realized
- 5:09Speaker 1: we were going to get some interviews and some insider reports.
- 5:13Speaker 1: And then after you know, the documentary kept going and going.
- 5:16Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, this is the entire documentary. It's
- 5:19Speaker 1: just these two people and their word, and they don't
- 5:22Speaker 1: have anything beyond these two people.
- 5:26Speaker 5: Except like little.
- 5:29Speaker 1: Scream quotes or you know internet.
- 5:33Speaker 6: Like where you could type it up yourself, you know
- 5:35Speaker 6: what I mean, Like, look, you can go to this
- 5:36Speaker 6: website and it also has that.
- 5:38Speaker 5: And well, I.
- 5:39Speaker 1: Want to be clear too that I don't think that
- 5:41Speaker 1: anything that these two people said is incorrect at all.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Often they would be lying about it. It just kind
- 5:47Speaker 1: of your general sentiment was just like yeah, and like
- 5:52Speaker 1: welcome to what's been going on for my entire lifetime.
- 5:56Speaker 6: So basically one of the major claims is Shadowgate it self.
- 6:00Speaker 6: The title is this thing that this entity a secret
- 6:04Speaker 6: government program?
- 6:05Speaker 5: Have you will mocking bird quote unquote like right, it's Shadowgate.
- 6:09Speaker 6: Shadowgate is the new mocking Bird kind of what they're claiming,
- 6:12Speaker 6: not necessary mocking Bird, but this new version of it.
- 6:15Speaker 1: And in shadow Gate, the term I think that comes
- 6:18Speaker 1: from Milly Weaver, Like no one else is calling this
- 6:22Speaker 1: shadow gate. That was just the name of the documentary
- 6:24Speaker 1: and the thing, yeah.
- 6:26Speaker 6: She coined the term is not an actual official government
- 6:31Speaker 6: program named Shadowgate.
- 6:32Speaker 5: Yeah, that is good to get clear.
- 6:33Speaker 6: But you don't know that going in, right, Like if
- 6:36Speaker 6: you're going in, you might you went without knowing a
- 6:39Speaker 6: lot about this.
- 6:39Speaker 1: I mean maybe whenever I hear someone has like like
- 6:41Speaker 1: a something gate, it's like, ah, man, like we need
- 6:44Speaker 1: to find a new moniker, We need to find a
- 6:46Speaker 1: new way to brand conspiracies and scandals. Then just putting
- 6:50Speaker 1: the gate.
- 6:51Speaker 5: At the end.
- 6:53Speaker 6: And their claim of shadowgate is that it is an
- 6:57Speaker 6: embedded contractor network or network inside DHS, DoD NSA, and
- 7:02Speaker 6: the CIA that runs psychological operations domestically avoids oversight by
- 7:08Speaker 6: using private corporations. So they claim that all this information
- 7:13Speaker 6: they're like, well, we're not doing anything with it, but
- 7:16Speaker 6: these private corporations are making copies. So all the information
- 7:19Speaker 6: that they're saving, they're like, we're not using it against
- 7:22Speaker 6: you because you're American citizens, but they're selling the information
- 7:26Speaker 6: to corporations that are allegedly run by either formers heads
- 7:31Speaker 6: of state or in the military generals or XCIA people.
- 7:36Speaker 6: They talk about Brennan a lot, right, Brennan is always
- 7:39Speaker 6: the I mean easy guy to be like, hey, he's
- 7:42Speaker 6: an evil guy, and you're like, I'm on board, bro,
- 7:44Speaker 6: you don't have to convince me.
- 7:46Speaker 1: The head of the CIA, are you kidding me? You
- 7:49Speaker 1: think they're doing shadow operation And there's a spot in
- 7:53Speaker 1: this documentary where at least they give you all the
- 7:56Speaker 1: ingredients and it's kind of simple. You can you can
- 7:58Speaker 1: simplify what seems like this complex political technological Now, what
- 8:04Speaker 1: happens is that all data, what you're searching, what you're saying,
- 8:08Speaker 1: just like any anything that you're doing that's being digitized
- 8:12Speaker 1: by cameras or microphones, which is pretty much everything that
- 8:15Speaker 1: we're doing, like right now, what we're doing is being digitized. Right,
- 8:18Speaker 1: So all of that data, by default get is getting
- 8:22Speaker 1: stored by the NSA for at least seventy two hours,
- 8:25Speaker 1: just so that it's around in case they need to
- 8:28Speaker 1: double check it or save it for evidence or whatever.
- 8:30Speaker 1: And then they're supposed to get rid of it and
- 8:32Speaker 1: never look at it again. And I'm totally sure they're
- 8:35Speaker 1: doing that at exactly seventy two hours. The other part
- 8:38Speaker 1: of this, though, is that during that seventy two hour period,
- 8:42Speaker 1: they're also allowed to send all this data they're collecting
- 8:45Speaker 1: to like private companies and contractors, so that those companies
- 8:50Speaker 1: can kind of like assist in that process. So now
- 8:53Speaker 1: we're trusting the NSA to totally delete everything after seventy
- 8:57Speaker 1: two hours, and we're trusting everyone down stream from them
- 9:00Speaker 1: that they're sending all of our data to that they're
- 9:03Speaker 1: also deleting all of our information within seventy two hours.
- 9:07Speaker 1: So the whole premise is that, hey, they're not actually
- 9:10Speaker 1: doing that. They're not actually deleting it after seventy two hours,
- 9:14Speaker 1: And that's that's kind of shadowgate gambling.
- 9:18Speaker 6: You're telling me that they're gambling, like of course, like that.
- 9:21Speaker 6: That's one thing that I fell back. Like obviously, when
- 9:24Speaker 6: I watched this in twenty twenty, I was intrigued because
- 9:27Speaker 6: I knew a lot of the information, but it was
- 9:29Speaker 6: what this is is the surge of twenty twenty people
- 9:33Speaker 6: that were just kind of like, oh, wow, the government
- 9:35Speaker 6: is kind of corrupt, like a lot of us already
- 9:37Speaker 6: knew all this stuff, or they're not just corrupt, but
- 9:40Speaker 6: they're like, wow, they're do dirty, Like it's way dirtier
- 9:42Speaker 6: than you thought. And this is a lot of people
- 9:44Speaker 6: quote unquote where they call waking up or whatever you
- 9:46Speaker 6: want to call it. But it's like people didn't really
- 9:48Speaker 6: understand that. I'm like, yeah, dude, after nine to eleven,
- 9:51Speaker 6: I thought everybody knew this. So to me, the interesting
- 9:54Speaker 6: fact of watching this in twenty twenty for me, was like, dang,
- 9:56Speaker 6: A lot of people do not know a lot of
- 9:59Speaker 6: this information.
- 10:00Speaker 1: The thing that blows my mind, and I one hundred
- 10:03Speaker 1: percent agree, and I think that is good. Someone sees
- 10:05Speaker 1: something like this and they're like, what do you mean
- 10:08Speaker 1: I can't trust the government? What do you mean that
- 10:09Speaker 1: they say one thing and doing a like okay, like
- 10:12Speaker 1: and once they catch up, that's great. It's just so
- 10:15Speaker 1: weird that all of that in this documentary gets framed
- 10:19Speaker 1: as and they're doing it to do a coup on
- 10:23Speaker 1: Donald Trump and all of this is just to take
- 10:26Speaker 1: him down, you know what I mean. It's it's such
- 10:28Speaker 1: a weird way because they even start getting into they
- 10:31Speaker 1: want to abolish the police, and all I'm hearing in
- 10:34Speaker 1: my mind is the state is trying to get rid
- 10:36Speaker 1: of the state, Like we need to help the state,
- 10:39Speaker 1: not get rid of the state, you know what I mean.
- 10:41Speaker 1: At a certain point it stops making sense to me,
- 10:44Speaker 1: which is this like pro Trump Alex Jones era where
- 10:47Speaker 1: he's like on the campaign trail for doing like a president.
- 10:51Speaker 7: You know.
- 10:52Speaker 6: And just a little side note, I never thought I
- 10:55Speaker 6: would see that in my lifetime that Dalex Jones is
- 10:59Speaker 6: like not telling over but actually on the campaign tro
- 11:02Speaker 6: and has the presidents here. That always threw me off.
- 11:04Speaker 6: I'm like, come on, Jones, man and over against the state.
- 11:07Speaker 6: Now he's like a it's all good man, Yeah.
- 11:10Speaker 1: You know what it is. I'm starting to realize too,
- 11:13Speaker 1: Alex Jones and Info Worlds and all that stuff, like
- 11:16Speaker 1: they were just one of the only outlets where you
- 11:19Speaker 1: could get this, like these really fringe theories but that
- 11:22Speaker 1: were legitimately backed up by crazy things going on. Like yeah,
- 11:25Speaker 1: of course he made wild, hyperbolic claims, but nobody else
- 11:29Speaker 1: was reporting on these very real AP articles and Reuter's articles.
- 11:34Speaker 1: That's all he did, is he just read through all
- 11:35Speaker 1: the AP and Reuter's articles and anything that sounded kind
- 11:38Speaker 1: of crazy, he just repeated it, and no one else
- 11:41Speaker 1: was doing what he was doing. And after you do
- 11:44Speaker 1: that for a decade or two, it's almost like people
- 11:47Speaker 1: think that you're an expert in all these topics, like nah,
- 11:50Speaker 1: you just know how to pick out crazy headlines and
- 11:52Speaker 1: connect some dots and scream a little bit. So like,
- 11:55Speaker 1: over time, I think my impression of what Alex Ownes
- 12:00Speaker 1: was doing at the time and especially since then, it's
- 12:03Speaker 1: just like all right. He just happened to find like
- 12:05Speaker 1: a nice gap in the market and had the right
- 12:07Speaker 1: voice for it. But he's not necessarily the guy you
- 12:10Speaker 1: want to get your news and your subjective analysis from.
- 12:14Speaker 1: And I'll just leave it at that. To be subtle,
- 12:17Speaker 1: I would agree.
- 12:18Speaker 6: And then he's just really great at going off the cuff,
- 12:21Speaker 6: like you said, he can. You can give him probably
- 12:23Speaker 6: like twenty thirty headlines and he's like, I got this
- 12:26Speaker 6: right on the fly.
- 12:27Speaker 5: That's what I give him credit for.
- 12:28Speaker 6: He's good at just on the fly going yep, I'm
- 12:31Speaker 6: gonna start connecting this and this.
- 12:32Speaker 5: But he's not an expert.
- 12:33Speaker 6: It's not like someone that has dived deep into a
- 12:36Speaker 6: lot of these subjects.
- 12:37Speaker 5: He knows about it from just existing through it.
- 12:40Speaker 6: And I do like That's why I think what's good
- 12:42Speaker 6: about what we do is like I did enjoy going
- 12:45Speaker 6: back to the old police state, Alex though, I like
- 12:48Speaker 6: that Alex the best dude.
- 12:50Speaker 1: Alex like rushing up on actual cops during an active,
- 12:54Speaker 1: you know, a training operation and just being like, so,
- 12:57Speaker 1: how's it feel working for the new world order?
- 12:59Speaker 6: You know?
- 12:59Speaker 1: Like that is that's the classic man on the street style.
- 13:02Speaker 1: Alex Jones that I think that he needed to have
- 13:06Speaker 1: not really abandoned, because as soon as he got big
- 13:09Speaker 1: enough and Info Wars became bigger than Alex Jones even became,
- 13:13Speaker 1: that's when all of this kind of started. And then
- 13:16Speaker 1: you get Millie Weaver as the new man on the
- 13:19Speaker 1: street representing this kind of you know, octopus of Info Wars.
- 13:24Speaker 6: Except she kind of veers away from men on the
- 13:28Speaker 6: street and maybe because twenty twenty maybe was a little
- 13:30Speaker 6: bit more difficult. But this whole thing focuses on Patrick
- 13:35Speaker 6: and Tory throughout the thing, and they're telling their stories
- 13:37Speaker 6: that you know, Tory was ex naval intelligence and Patrick
- 13:43Speaker 6: x military intelligence.
- 13:45Speaker 1: We're gonna break all that down for you, you know what
- 13:46Speaker 1: I mean.
- 13:47Speaker 6: They talk about some of the programs they were, like
- 13:50Speaker 6: the psy op units and the MISSO units and special
- 13:54Speaker 6: operation commands and post nine to eleven cyber expansion, which
- 13:58Speaker 6: a lot of us already knew, like I mean, and
- 14:00Speaker 6: after nine to eleven, this stuff was all unrolled. And
- 14:03Speaker 6: then even with Snowden, right, Snowden talking about NSA spying
- 14:06Speaker 6: on us, they kind of briefly go over it. It's
- 14:08Speaker 6: like Snowden for right wingers, that's what I would probably
- 14:12Speaker 6: say about Shadowgate, right, it's the Snowden era, but focused
- 14:16Speaker 6: primarily on they're only going after us, right, like this
- 14:20Speaker 6: side of the state. They're not actually going, hey, this
- 14:22Speaker 6: is some of the information's really important. We kind of
- 14:26Speaker 6: probably didn't know it, but we know psychological operations are
- 14:29Speaker 6: being set upon us for all the time. Like they
- 14:32Speaker 6: start talking about the section seven oh two and primise
- 14:36Speaker 6: providing the data pipeline where FISA section seven oh two
- 14:41Speaker 6: in two thousand and eight, which is connected to the
- 14:44Speaker 6: Edward Snowden twenty thirteen surveillance program of PRIMUS and the
- 14:50Speaker 6: mass data collection infrastructure makes psychological targeting possible. So it's
- 14:56Speaker 6: not necessarily they're proving anything. They're just like pushing it
- 14:59Speaker 6: back out out there that it still exists, which was
- 15:02Speaker 6: probably good at this time because there was a lot
- 15:03Speaker 6: of people in twenty twenty that were willing to listen
- 15:06Speaker 6: to this information. That's the only to me, the under
- 15:11Speaker 6: the underlining moment that is good at it for the.
- 15:14Speaker 1: I think part of the problem here though, is that
- 15:17Speaker 1: you'll get these really like clarly. For example, here's how
- 15:20Speaker 1: it gets framed in the documentary where Millie's like, so
- 15:24Speaker 1: you're what you're saying is there's military grades, psychological warfare,
- 15:28Speaker 1: weapons being directed, you know, like the way that she
- 15:30Speaker 1: frames that's here's what's actually happening, though, it's really it's
- 15:34Speaker 1: really kind of simple. So you've got Tory, and Tory
- 15:38Speaker 1: was a Navy linguist, So a linguist in the Navy
- 15:41Speaker 1: is essentially someone that translates, so she could have just
- 15:45Speaker 1: been the lady that knows how to speak Spanish in
- 15:47Speaker 1: the office. And they make it sound really it's it's
- 15:51Speaker 1: called like a cryptologic technician interoperative, you know what I mean,
- 15:55Speaker 1: Like they make it sound fancy, but really it's like
- 15:57Speaker 1: she's the one who knows how to speak Arabic, she's
- 15:59Speaker 1: the one who knows how to speak Spanish. And what
- 16:01Speaker 1: she's describing is this this sy you know, SAYA program
- 16:06Speaker 1: that's going on. What it means is they're collecting information
- 16:11Speaker 1: and then she becomes an expert in whatever language and
- 16:14Speaker 1: culture and like she calls it localization, and localization is
- 16:18Speaker 1: just meaning like what does this phrase or this behavior
- 16:21Speaker 1: mean in this town or in this city at this time,
- 16:24Speaker 1: Because it might be different if you're talking about different
- 16:26Speaker 1: state or a different country, if some acts a certain
- 16:28Speaker 1: way or says a certain thing, so she's kind of
- 16:31Speaker 1: like a glorified translator, and that they can kind of
- 16:36Speaker 1: tell what people are saying and how they're acting and
- 16:38Speaker 1: use it against them, like Okay, yeah, that's a casino
- 16:41Speaker 1: operator working the security camera is technically what she's doing
- 16:45Speaker 1: at this level. And then they've got the guy Patrick Bergee,
- 16:49Speaker 1: and he's in cybersecurity for the army. You know, when
- 16:53Speaker 1: you have to your internet goes out and you got
- 16:56Speaker 1: to call spectrum and the Spectrum guy comes over and
- 16:58Speaker 1: he like runs some tests and he's got like some
- 17:00Speaker 1: stuff in the truck. He knows how to use it.
- 17:02Speaker 1: I mean, not to like under you know, glorify what
- 17:05Speaker 1: Patrick Bergey did. That's kind of him. He's like the
- 17:08Speaker 1: Spectrum guy, except he probably has more expensive tools and
- 17:11Speaker 1: he's worked on top secret compounds. But essentially he's making
- 17:15Speaker 1: Wi Fi signals work again and he's connecting stuff. Right,
- 17:19Speaker 1: So these are like the two whistleblowers. You've got a
- 17:22Speaker 1: translator and you've got a spectrum guy, and they're kind
- 17:25Speaker 1: of and I'm saying this way to be like under
- 17:29Speaker 1: hyperbolic just because of how it's like this guy is
- 17:32Speaker 1: a is a syop you know, techn like cybersecurity technician. Like,
- 17:36Speaker 1: all right, let's find out what they act. What's the
- 17:38Speaker 1: actual career code. So there's a lot of bit of
- 17:40Speaker 1: like dressing up in here to make it sound like
- 17:43Speaker 1: you're getting this explosive insider CIA, top secret, you know knowledge,
- 17:49Speaker 1: when it really it's like, here's two people that work
- 17:51Speaker 1: for the military among millions of others that work for
- 17:54Speaker 1: the military and their opinions on Trump.
- 17:57Speaker 6: He kind of reminds me of half baked when he's like,
- 17:59Speaker 6: I'm a cutian or a janitor, if you want to
- 18:01Speaker 6: be a dick about it, right, Like you can dress
- 18:04Speaker 6: up any title you want, and it happens all the time.
- 18:06Speaker 6: I mean even in regular workspaces where you're like he's
- 18:10Speaker 6: a shipping specialist, like right, and you're like, yeah, I
- 18:13Speaker 6: just ship stuff like you know what I mean, it's
- 18:15Speaker 6: nothing crazy or people love these fancy titles. So I
- 18:17Speaker 6: agree it kind of like is a little misleading to
- 18:20Speaker 6: somebody that may not know it's they're like, oh, I'm
- 18:23Speaker 6: getting an expert on this, and you're like, well, you
- 18:25Speaker 6: just kind of worked there, right, And he's telling his
- 18:27Speaker 6: opinion and from Patrick's perspective, you could kind of get it,
- 18:31Speaker 6: like is he scorned, right, Like is he like work
- 18:34Speaker 6: for a company that maybe they did not have the
- 18:37Speaker 6: best you know, falling out, or like, hey, I'm leaving
- 18:40Speaker 6: this company, Like I work at companies where I'm like,
- 18:42Speaker 6: I hate this company I'm leaving. And if you ask
- 18:45Speaker 6: me in an interview about them, I'll be like, yeah,
- 18:46Speaker 6: they're peace crap man, like I I might make up things, right, Oh,
- 18:50Speaker 6: they're embezzling, bro like I know for sure, Like even
- 18:52Speaker 6: if I don't know so some of it Again, I'm
- 18:54Speaker 6: not trying to undermine what they say either, but some
- 18:57Speaker 6: of it does kind of give you a scorned worker vies.
- 19:01Speaker 1: And honestly, like, again, I don't disagree with a single
- 19:03Speaker 1: thing that either one of them said. I just I'm
- 19:05Speaker 1: just of the pretty strong opinion that we're not getting
- 19:09Speaker 1: any new information from either of these two whistleblowers. They
- 19:13Speaker 1: just worked at a company twenty years ago, and like, oh,
- 19:15Speaker 1: yeah it sucked back then, and yeah, I'm sure that
- 19:18Speaker 1: those guys are assholes. That's kind of a little bit
- 19:20Speaker 1: of what you get, and there's there's not any smoking
- 19:23Speaker 1: gun evidence. A lot of it I think is just
- 19:26Speaker 1: to do that appeal to authority sort of logical fallacy
- 19:31Speaker 1: where it's like, ah, we got insiders, therefore anything this
- 19:34Speaker 1: documentary says must be more accurate had they not been
- 19:37Speaker 1: in it, when really it's not really the case.
- 19:40Speaker 6: And they kind of break down more like it's one
- 19:43Speaker 6: of those documentaris where it's just like this guy's connected
- 19:46Speaker 6: to the General. James is connected General James Jones is
- 19:50Speaker 6: connected to Patrick, and Patrick's connect to Brennan, and like
- 19:53Speaker 6: it kind of like brings it all together. They talk
- 19:54Speaker 6: about some of the companies like Dynology Corporation, clear Force
- 19:59Speaker 6: See Group, and how they're by defense contract Like defense
- 20:04Speaker 6: contractors are former generals. That's like kind of unfortunately a
- 20:08Speaker 6: very common thing. Like most people, these high ranking generals
- 20:12Speaker 6: that are like at the Defense Department usually go to raytheon,
- 20:16Speaker 6: usually go to Lockheed Martin and other defense contractors. And
- 20:21Speaker 6: now the new defense system is psychological warfare via social
- 20:25Speaker 6: media and data is a new weapon. So so the
- 20:28Speaker 6: film highlights all these companies. It's nothing that we don't know.
- 20:32Speaker 6: It's just a new form of technology that is being
- 20:35Speaker 6: used against us. Instead of just like hey, we're burning books,
- 20:38Speaker 6: we're actually just copying your profiles and buying on everything
- 20:41Speaker 6: you're doing, which has been forever, but now we have
- 20:44Speaker 6: given them access to this and they could have to
- 20:47Speaker 6: me went a little bit more detailed, but the primary
- 20:50Speaker 6: focus is probably one of the last claims, and it's
- 20:52Speaker 6: not just a claim, but their main theme is basically,
- 20:57Speaker 6: this is a coupdetas against Donald Trump that was orchestrated
- 21:02Speaker 6: by the Obama administration. That is pretty much the meat
- 21:06Speaker 6: and potatoes of all this.
- 21:08Speaker 1: I feel a little bit about, like this is if
- 21:12Speaker 1: someone were to approach you and they just keep the
- 21:15Speaker 1: spit in facts every single thing they say, You're like, hell, yeah, no,
- 21:17Speaker 1: I agree one hundred percent. Yeah we should lower that. Yeah,
- 21:20Speaker 1: we should like end all these horrible programs. And then
- 21:23Speaker 1: they're like, and that's why you should join my colt
- 21:25Speaker 1: and sell all your goods and get and you're just like,
- 21:28Speaker 1: hold on a minute, Like I was up. I was
- 21:30Speaker 1: with you all the way up until the very end.
- 21:32Speaker 1: We were like, and now this is what we should
- 21:34Speaker 1: do about it. So it has that like sort of
- 21:37Speaker 1: a premise to it. I think that there's plenty of
- 21:41Speaker 1: silver lining in it because we get a lot of
- 21:44Speaker 1: real important information. It just gets weirdly funneled into like
- 21:49Speaker 1: and therefore and you're like what, like why does this mean?
- 21:52Speaker 1: And therefore they're trying to throw a coup on Donald Trump?
- 21:55Speaker 1: Or there's some other claims too. She claims that the
- 21:58Speaker 1: Obama phone was part of this program and that it
- 22:03Speaker 1: was essentially all these people had opted in to take
- 22:06Speaker 1: government phones, that all that data was then being farmed
- 22:11Speaker 1: by private industry, and then the private industry was figuring
- 22:14Speaker 1: out how to emotionally target the people that were using
- 22:18Speaker 1: these phones and send them specific political messaging or like
- 22:22Speaker 1: whatever just get them to vote a certain way. I
- 22:25Speaker 1: don't know, man, I don't know if if once you
- 22:27Speaker 1: gave the Obama phones out, I don't know if you
- 22:29Speaker 1: had to like feed the Obama phone users SIOP operation
- 22:34Speaker 1: just to get them to vote for Obama over Donald
- 22:37Speaker 1: Trump or whatever whatever the antithesis would have been for Obama. Right, So, like,
- 22:43Speaker 1: again it's a lot of yes, I agree they're doing
- 22:46Speaker 1: these programs. Yes, it's being funneled to private industry and
- 22:49Speaker 1: it shouldn't be. But now like for what ends, Oh,
- 22:52Speaker 1: it's just to defeat Trump. And if Trump were in charge,
- 22:56Speaker 1: none of this would have been going on. Like private
- 22:58Speaker 1: industry and the NSA, Like he'd get in there and
- 23:00Speaker 1: he'd end all that, he'd be draining the swamp. That's
- 23:03Speaker 1: kind of like the dot dot dot that doesn't get spoken.
- 23:05Speaker 6: Yeah, because they even like have like a recorded because
- 23:09Speaker 6: Tori also has a podcast just so just to be
- 23:13Speaker 6: super transparent everything. And she's talking to Roberts to Stone, right, uh,
- 23:19Speaker 6: Roger Stone. I was almost gonna say his name wrong.
- 23:21Speaker 6: Roger Stone's on there claiming like, yeah, you're right man.
- 23:24Speaker 6: Of course he's he's political mastermind trying to get Donald
- 23:28Speaker 6: Trump reelected at this time. Right, They're they're they're having
- 23:30Speaker 6: a campaign. And that's where they lose me because I'm like,
- 23:33Speaker 6: I'm with you too. I'm like, oh, okay, yeah, you're right.
- 23:35Speaker 6: And then instead of saying like hey, they're doing this
- 23:38Speaker 6: to us, it like changes and shifts the narrative of like, yeah,
- 23:42Speaker 6: it's only because of Trump man, and Trump will save you.
- 23:44Speaker 6: And I'm like, all right, you lost me man. Now
- 23:45Speaker 6: you're telling me to go back to the state, but
- 23:47Speaker 6: just your red team part of the state. You're like,
- 23:50Speaker 6: the Blue team is terrible, but the Red team's pretty good, man.
- 23:52Speaker 6: They're they're here to help you day. Not into corporations,
- 23:55Speaker 6: they're not into war. And I would love to revisit
- 23:58Speaker 6: this after now everything that's going going on, you know,
- 24:00Speaker 6: and be like, hey, so uh we think about that, right, Like, yeah,
- 24:03Speaker 6: it's true what's going on, but it's not in that
- 24:06Speaker 6: narrative that you painted it. And and I will say this,
- 24:09Speaker 6: the funny thing to me is when they show the
- 24:11Speaker 6: Obama phone like segment, because there's a lady that.
- 24:14Speaker 5: Got my bamba phone, got my boma right there.
- 24:17Speaker 6: They're they're using that media tactic that they always do,
- 24:21Speaker 6: right when they go into a line of people that
- 24:23Speaker 6: are going to vote for Trump, they don't they go
- 24:25Speaker 6: find the biggest, loudest idiot.
- 24:27Speaker 5: And I thought it was funny that they did the
- 24:29Speaker 5: same thing.
- 24:30Speaker 6: And it's like, well, you're kind of using the same
- 24:32Speaker 6: tactics that you're supposedly against.
- 24:34Speaker 1: Yeah, they're using military grade psychological warfare weapons directly on you.
- 24:48Speaker 5: Hidden treasures and overboard moments.
- 24:52Speaker 6: I think some of the hidden treasures for me are
- 24:57Speaker 6: for people that are not familiar with these topics. That's
- 25:00Speaker 6: the only really hidden treasure for me. I'm like, if
- 25:03Speaker 6: your mom, your grandma, or like your uncle or people
- 25:06Speaker 6: that wire forever, Military Industrial Complex Bush people like maybe
- 25:11Speaker 6: that this will be like okay, I can I can
- 25:14Speaker 6: digest them of it. There is some information that's good
- 25:17Speaker 6: for people that are unfamiliar, but I don't think there's
- 25:20Speaker 6: any like for me personally, except like for like comedy relief,
- 25:23Speaker 6: like that lady screaming about the Obama phone was like
- 25:27Speaker 6: a hitting gem for me, but that was just like
- 25:28Speaker 6: my own personal that's hilarious, right, like oh Bible fah,
- 25:32Speaker 6: like she's just going crazy about it. But other than that,
- 25:34Speaker 6: there's nothing for me that's tangible that I'm like, oh,
- 25:38Speaker 6: this is a hidden treasure that I can't believe I
- 25:41Speaker 6: watched this.
- 25:42Speaker 1: I think the hidden treasure for me is just that
- 25:44Speaker 1: there was a decently simplified explanation of the entire Edward
- 25:50Speaker 1: Snowden and Section seven oh two NSA. It gets it
- 25:54Speaker 1: sounds and it can get so complicated. And part of that, too,
- 25:57Speaker 1: I think is because uh, the mainstream media but like it.
- 26:02Speaker 1: Part of that's because they can so easily milk that
- 26:06Speaker 1: topic for months by just keep talking about it over
- 26:09Speaker 1: and over. It's so simple. The government records everything you
- 26:13Speaker 1: do and say for seventy two hours it's on paper.
- 26:15Speaker 1: This is that section seven oh two. Like, the NSA
- 26:18Speaker 1: is allowed to do this for security reasons. But as
- 26:22Speaker 1: part of that process, they farm that crap out. Man,
- 26:24Speaker 1: they send it off to you know, lowest paying bidder
- 26:28Speaker 1: or you know, lowest contractor that's willing to do for
- 26:31Speaker 1: the least amount of money. They farm that stuff out,
- 26:34Speaker 1: and guess what, some of that data gets leaked. It
- 26:36Speaker 1: makes it back into the private industry. And then the conspiracy,
- 26:39Speaker 1: the whole shadow gate of this is that and the
- 26:43Speaker 1: government that's hiring those private contractors, they know that those
- 26:46Speaker 1: private contractors aren't going to delete the data. Of course,
- 26:49Speaker 1: bro it's like it's their company, it's their homeboys company.
- 26:53Speaker 1: So they're intentionally using this gap between the government and
- 26:58Speaker 1: private industry so that the government can continue to do
- 27:01Speaker 1: government things and then be like, oh, well, you know,
- 27:04Speaker 1: we're just using data given to us from the private industry.
- 27:07Speaker 1: So like, and then if the private industry gets held accountable,
- 27:10Speaker 1: they can tactically just claim bankruptcy or the government can
- 27:14Speaker 1: step back in and say, you know, this is a
- 27:17Speaker 1: national security concern, you can't really look into this further.
- 27:20Speaker 1: So it's this loophole that continues to exist. I think
- 27:23Speaker 1: that's the overlying is that even if you're not even
- 27:26Speaker 1: if you're like getting all hyped up about Obama phones
- 27:29Speaker 1: and stuff, you might still get a decent understanding of
- 27:33Speaker 1: all of this and you don't have to read all
- 27:35Speaker 1: of the long ass Edward Snowden articles and books like
- 27:39Speaker 1: That's that's the premise.
- 27:41Speaker 6: And for me, overboard is they don't explain the detail,
- 27:45Speaker 6: like they kind of connect dots where it's like, did
- 27:48Speaker 6: you know that a former general, a former CIA, a
- 27:51Speaker 6: former NSA guy is in the private industry still collecting
- 27:55Speaker 6: your data and they give it to the government. You're like, yeah, man,
- 27:58Speaker 6: like this is not any new So again I'm looking
- 28:01Speaker 6: at through my eyes of where I'm like, okay, we
- 28:04Speaker 6: know this, there's no new information.
- 28:07Speaker 5: It's good for someone that doesn't know.
- 28:09Speaker 6: But then the way that you kind of portray it
- 28:11Speaker 6: as it's only against Donald Trump really rubs me the
- 28:13Speaker 6: wrong way. And another overpoor moment that really doesn't have
- 28:17Speaker 6: to do with the film, but me knowing at the time.
- 28:19Speaker 6: So as the film was getting released, they're like newly
- 28:23Speaker 6: weavers getting arrested and they're like, oh my god, she's
- 28:25Speaker 6: getting arrested for Shadowgate and all this, and it was
- 28:28Speaker 6: this hype around it, like she even played into it
- 28:31Speaker 6: and it's like on her cellphone, like I don't even
- 28:33Speaker 6: know why they're here, what are they doing here? So
- 28:35Speaker 6: it fed into which, hey, marketing ploy, I get it.
- 28:38Speaker 6: Not I'm not hating on it, right, you gotta do
- 28:40Speaker 6: what you gotta do. But people were actually thinking she
- 28:44Speaker 6: was arrested for Shadowgate and she was not.
- 28:46Speaker 5: It had to do with the dispute with I.
- 28:48Speaker 6: Think her either her mother in law or her mom,
- 28:51Speaker 6: like and she took a pone and then she like
- 28:54Speaker 6: just family problems and that's what it turned out to
- 28:57Speaker 6: be booked for twenty four to forty eight hours.
- 28:59Speaker 5: People are like, they're trying to get they're silencing her.
- 29:02Speaker 6: That that to me was the overboard moment because they
- 29:06Speaker 6: connected it to the film. So anybody that it gave
- 29:08Speaker 6: hype to the film where people are like, these whistleblowers
- 29:11Speaker 6: are all gonna go get killed and arrested, and really
- 29:14Speaker 6: only Millie Weaver got arrested, and then it turns out
- 29:17Speaker 6: it had nothing to do with Shadowgate whatsoever.
- 29:21Speaker 1: Well, that's what Shadowgate wants you to think, is that
- 29:23Speaker 1: it had nothing to do with that. It was it
- 29:25Speaker 1: was honestly like a whole career assassination ploy. And I
- 29:30Speaker 1: think the overboard is two or threefold for me. But
- 29:34Speaker 1: like one of those is that it's it's presented in
- 29:38Speaker 1: like I have a few notes that kept coming up,
- 29:41Speaker 1: but I was watching this like is this a school
- 29:43Speaker 1: book report? Because she'll list something it's like like Brennan
- 29:47Speaker 1: and like psychological warfare operations and so on and so forth,
- 29:51Speaker 1: and it's just like that's the filler that you add
- 29:54Speaker 1: in for you know, like Okay, I'm gonna move on
- 29:56Speaker 1: to this next section. Now. The biggest one for me,
- 29:59Speaker 1: the biggest over board and criticism is it kind of
- 30:02Speaker 1: feels like she just took existing research, didn't really add
- 30:07Speaker 1: get more depth, didn't really add a lot of clarity.
- 30:10Speaker 1: She did a decent job of again organizing it in
- 30:12Speaker 1: a way that you understand what could be a complicated program.
- 30:16Speaker 1: But it also it feels a little bit like your
- 30:18Speaker 1: friend's like, yo, check out this track I just made,
- 30:21Speaker 1: and it's just like it's an existing song you've heard
- 30:24Speaker 1: a million times before. But then they just add like
- 30:26Speaker 1: bur bur bur yo yo yo, Like they just add
- 30:28Speaker 1: some like overdubbing to it, and they're trying to present
- 30:31Speaker 1: it like, hey, look I recorded this. You're like, bro,
- 30:34Speaker 1: I've heard this song. This is a song on the
- 30:36Speaker 1: radio right now. You just kind of put a few
- 30:38Speaker 1: effects on it. This isn't even a remix, you know,
- 30:40Speaker 1: you just kind of like added some things to it.
- 30:43Speaker 1: I get a really strong vibe from this quote unquote documentary. Again,
- 30:47Speaker 1: it's like, hey, have you been watching Fox for the
- 30:50Speaker 1: last three months. Well, here's all of the highlight clips
- 30:53Speaker 1: with Millie Weaver inserting yourself in between it and two
- 30:56Speaker 1: whistleblowers and you don't really get anything beyond that.
- 31:00Speaker 6: And one highlight that really kind of got urged me
- 31:03Speaker 6: through the film, Like it's well put together as far
- 31:05Speaker 6: as editing, but the music man constant of this like eerie,
- 31:11Speaker 6: like oh my gosh, we're under like I that annoys me,
- 31:14Speaker 6: Like I I like a good soundtrack, but you use
- 31:16Speaker 6: the same music throughout it and it's all this eerie,
- 31:19Speaker 6: creepy so you can get locked in like, oh my gosh,
- 31:22Speaker 6: I'm getting I get the effect that it's trying to give.
- 31:24Speaker 5: It just annoyed me and bothered me throughout the film.
- 31:27Speaker 1: So so where how did you feel about it the
- 31:30Speaker 1: first time you saw it versus now, like, is it
- 31:34Speaker 1: dramatically different or just like a little bit different.
- 31:38Speaker 6: It's it's not dramatically, but it is different because I
- 31:40Speaker 6: kind of like watching it and I was like, dang,
- 31:42Speaker 6: this is good to get out there. And I was
- 31:45Speaker 6: already like, you know how I think of Trump or
- 31:47Speaker 6: all politicians for that matter, the state. I didn't like
- 31:50Speaker 6: that part of it, but I hate it more now,
- 31:53Speaker 6: you know what I mean.
- 31:54Speaker 1: So this is the first time I'd seen it and
- 31:57Speaker 1: cant to see what came out. I do gotta say
- 31:59Speaker 1: maybe one extra little silver lining hidden treasure this if
- 32:04Speaker 1: you found out that your aunt or your mom or
- 32:07Speaker 1: like your cousin, if you found out that like they're
- 32:09Speaker 1: going hard and watching Info Wars and they're getting into
- 32:12Speaker 1: the QAnon and like everyone's trying to come after Donald
- 32:15Speaker 1: Trump and they're watching all this content. This is probably
- 32:19Speaker 1: one of the better more factual Info Wars twenty twenty
- 32:23Speaker 1: documentary rabbit holes you can go down that still holds true.
- 32:27Speaker 1: You know what I mean? That like I hate I
- 32:29Speaker 1: don't know a better word than like nothing burger. I
- 32:31Speaker 1: hate that word because it's got this like where, but
- 32:33Speaker 1: like it's kind of that like this documentary. It's it
- 32:36Speaker 1: doesn't claim something like interdimensional beings are like eating babies
- 32:41Speaker 1: or anything like that. It's just like, hey, the NSA
- 32:43Speaker 1: is stealing your data, giving it the private industry and
- 32:46Speaker 1: then allowing them to keep it and using it as
- 32:48Speaker 1: a loophole. One hundred percent correct. And also that's ever
- 32:51Speaker 1: gonna be false, which might be kind of unique in
- 32:55Speaker 1: the info Wars library right for it to like hold
- 32:57Speaker 1: strong that much even though it was charged.
- 33:05Speaker 5: It's that time sink or swim.
- 33:09Speaker 1: Sink. That's it. Yeah, I mean I feel like I
- 33:16Speaker 1: get again. If if you're gonna have to watch an
- 33:19Speaker 1: info Wars documentary post nine to eleven, like post Alex
- 33:23Speaker 1: Jones stepping back and uh delegating it to all the
- 33:27Speaker 1: new waves, this is probably not one that's gonna rot
- 33:30Speaker 1: your brain as much. It's not gonna radicalize you as much.
- 33:34Speaker 1: But I don't know, I don't think it's really worre.
- 33:36Speaker 1: You can go and read an article about how this
- 33:38Speaker 1: section seven O two for NSA worked, and maybe some
- 33:42Speaker 1: like Edward Snowden recaps.
- 33:44Speaker 6: And it's information that's already given out. That's kind of recycled.
- 33:48Speaker 6: They don't even explore further or try to connect this
- 33:50Speaker 6: information to like the m k Ultra programs or Mockingbird, like.
- 33:54Speaker 1: Connected to a bomba phone, that's.
- 33:56Speaker 6: What they So for me, it's a sync as well,
- 33:59Speaker 6: like it's just doesn't have it the feel of nothing,
- 34:03Speaker 6: no new information, the same recycled stuff and you're not
- 34:05Speaker 6: even trying to connect it. Because for me, if you
- 34:08Speaker 6: use all this information and you're like, they're doing this
- 34:11Speaker 6: and I think it's connected to an old program or
- 34:14Speaker 6: this is it's none of that.
- 34:15Speaker 5: It's just the same old, same, over're like, yeah, they're
- 34:18Speaker 5: stealing your information.
- 34:19Speaker 6: It's nothing new, and you know who will not steal
- 34:22Speaker 6: your information, Paranoid American. If you go to Paranoid American
- 34:25Speaker 6: dot com, you may have some data. He's trying not
- 34:27Speaker 6: to get it to the NSA, but there's not much
- 34:29Speaker 6: you can do it. But maybe if you buy a
- 34:31Speaker 6: couple of shirts, he can talk to them. And you know,
- 34:34Speaker 6: greaset those wheels a bit. So go to Paranoid American
- 34:37Speaker 6: dot com, go to kill themockingbirds dot com. This is
- 34:40Speaker 6: another episode until our next voyage under the docks sink
- 34:44Speaker 6: or swims.
- 34:54Speaker 2: Yeah, under the TuS.
- 35:00Speaker 3: Funny chum, could they whistle the shots? The kind of dogs.
- 35:05Speaker 2: Under the dogs? Shot under the dogs? Yeah, under the dogs,
- 35:23Speaker 2: under the dogs?
- 35:24Speaker 4: Shot Chaz bar something.
- 35:42Speaker 2: Chap something from parent, nor American jesus bors something.
- 35:53Speaker 4: Cheers by something.
- 35:55Speaker 5: From parent or yourmeric get.
- 35:57Speaker 2: Some merch by some picking at the car and say
- 36:03Speaker 2: you're back.
- 36:04Speaker 4: Need that print now your head. Give consent by your
- 36:09Speaker 4: comic three your phone, Think the start, I want more.
- 36:13Speaker 4: Buy a stick from the store, Think the start, I
- 36:17Speaker 4: want more.
- 36:21Speaker 7: Shot just by shop from Paron, No American.
- 36:30Speaker 4: Just by shut, just by.
- 36:36Speaker 2: Shut from parent, noid American.
- 36:43Speaker 7: From I screwbled my life away? Driven the right page?
- 36:54Speaker 1: Will it light to bring?
- 36:55Speaker 7: Give you the flight of a plane, paper, the highs,
- 36:58Speaker 7: the blaze. So what we're gonna makes feel when it's real,
- 37:01Speaker 7: the real? You will engage in your favorite the pause
- 37:04Speaker 7: the lord of an arrangement. I gave you the proper
- 37:07Speaker 7: results to hit the pavement. If they get emotional hate
- 37:10Speaker 7: may be your language.
- 37:11Speaker 4: The game.
- 37:11Speaker 7: How they playing it well without lay because evading, whatever
- 37:15Speaker 7: the costs, they are the shape shit, thanks, give you
- 37:17Speaker 7: the cappetated that it's the apex executional flame.
- 37:21Speaker 1: You walk look your lar bombs.
- 37:22Speaker 4: Distributed a war.
- 37:24Speaker 5: Rather crucome for eyes to see.
- 37:26Speaker 7: Maxim out and I light my trees, blow it off
- 37:28Speaker 7: in the face.
- 37:29Speaker 5: You're despising me for what thought calculated.
- 37:32Speaker 7: The rather cut throat perinoid American.
- 37:34Speaker 5: Must be all the blood.
- 37:35Speaker 7: Spoke for real. Lord, give me your day, your way, vacate.
- 37:38Speaker 7: They' weiit around that hate whatever they say, man, it's
- 37:42Speaker 7: not in the least bit. We get heavy rotate when
- 37:45Speaker 7: the beat hits some things. Because you well, for Uncle
- 37:47Speaker 7: Higgas for Rell, you welcome.
- 37:49Speaker 4: They ain't ever had a deal.
- 37:51Speaker 7: You welcome, man, They lacking a pill. You welcome, Yet
- 37:55Speaker 7: they do what It's still You're welcome.