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  Speaker 1: He still reform it. Tonight an amazing turnaround today by
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  Speaker 1: a labor minister. Nuclear waste not a problem. Also tonight
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  Speaker 1: a teal independent plays a gender card like no politician
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  Speaker 1: since Julia Gillard, and once again against the Liberal leader
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  Speaker 1: Peter Dutton.
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  Speaker 2: Still has a problem with professional women.
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  Speaker 1: Time to call out that nonsense. Plus how safe is
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  Speaker 1: the Paris Olympics three days away? But terror alerts and
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  Speaker 1: our report of a pack rape of Australian women and
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  Speaker 1: how work can the federal Agriculture Minister go? Now peddling
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  Speaker 1: fake history from Bruce Pasco.
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  Speaker 3: I'd also like to start by acknowledging the traditional owners
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  Speaker 3: of the land that we're gathering on today, our first farmers.
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  Speaker 1: But first, what's with Donald Trump and his Republicans. You've
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  Speaker 1: got to wonder if they're actually trying to help Kamla
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  Speaker 1: Harris and are they too arrogant to see that Joe
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  Speaker 1: Bidenes's vice president is actually a shape shifter and a
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  Speaker 1: much bigger danger to them at the November election than
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  Speaker 1: Joe Barden ever was now President Biden with the election
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  Speaker 1: race yesterday, too old to frail, and Harris is now
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  Speaker 1: certain to take over from him and for the Democrats
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  Speaker 1: has been just good news ever since. I mean, in
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  Speaker 1: the first twenty four hours as a party candidate against Trump,
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  Speaker 1: Harris raised the record eighty one million US in donations,
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  Speaker 1: and the first poll shows she's hard the lead that
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  Speaker 1: Trump had over Barden to just two points. And here's
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  Speaker 1: my warning. With that money behind her, all the new advertising,
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  Speaker 1: she's a blank slate sofa to most voters, Harris will
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  Speaker 1: be able to turn herself into a candidate who can
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  Speaker 1: really hurt Trump. Yet, Trump and his running mate jd
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  Speaker 1: Vance and Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson were all today
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  Speaker 1: just carrying on like it's really their target's still Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure they've got a good argument, but it's not
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  Speaker 1: a politically smart one. The argument is this, if Joe
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  Speaker 1: Biden is too mentally and physically incompetent run for president,
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  Speaker 1: is he too incompetent to be president? Right now? His
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  Speaker 1: doctor says he's in good health. He's not in good health.
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  Speaker 4: We're excited about Kama Levine at the top of the ticket,
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  Speaker 4: and I have suggested that the president should resign. The
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  Speaker 4: reason is if everyone acknowledges that he is incapable of
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  Speaker 4: running a campaign, then he's clearly incapable of running the country.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he has the nuclear codes, he has major
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  Speaker 4: decisions it has to make every single hour of every day,
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  Speaker 4: and he does not have the faculties to do so.
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  Speaker 4: Now everyone acknowledges that, including the Democrat Party. I think
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  Speaker 4: that should weigh the decision on whether he should continue
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  Speaker 4: to serve. We are suggested and calling upon him to
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  Speaker 4: resign and do the right thing for the country.
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  Speaker 1: What a great point, What a great except. Do the
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  Speaker 1: Republicans seriously want Biden to step down as president and
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  Speaker 1: for Kamala Harris to take over the presidency as well,
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  Speaker 1: with all the advantages that brings President Harris? This is idiotic.
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  Speaker 1: But as it happens, Biden is too selfish stand down
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  Speaker 1: for Harris and this as well, as he made clear
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  Speaker 1: when he rang his campaign headquarters staff while Harris was
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  Speaker 1: there taking over.
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  Speaker 5: Julie, if I didn't have COVID, I'd be sitting there
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  Speaker 5: with you, standing there with you. I'm so proud of
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  Speaker 5: what you've.
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  Speaker 1: All done, and I just pulled it out.
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  Speaker 5: Then keep me out of at of people's lair for
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  Speaker 5: the next three or four days. But I'm going to
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  Speaker 5: be on the road and I'm not going anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Harris then stepped in and agreed, no, Biden was not
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  Speaker 1: going anywhere.
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  Speaker 6: It is so good to hear our president's voice. Joe,
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  Speaker 6: I know you're still on the call, and we've been
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  Speaker 6: talking every day. You probably you guys heard it from
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  Speaker 6: Doug's voice. We love Joe and Jill, we really do.
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  Speaker 6: They truly are like family.
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  Speaker 7: Does I know you're still there?
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  Speaker 8: You're not going anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Republicans got to know their problem now is not Joe Buden.
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  Speaker 1: It is Kamela Harris. Now, like I said last night,
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  Speaker 1: she's got all sorts of things going against her. Her
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  Speaker 1: aggravating cackle or incomprehensible word salads, her lack of obvious sympathy,
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  Speaker 1: her total disaster, and the one job Baden gave her
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  Speaker 1: cut the flood of illegal immigrants instead up to ten
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  Speaker 1: million came across the US borders. And all that's true.
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  Speaker 1: These weaknesses should be fatal, But today Harris showed that
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  Speaker 1: she can go for Trump like Baden could not. For instance,
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  Speaker 1: this very personal attackle money supporters. She was once a
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  Speaker 1: district attorney prosecuting crooks like Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 6: In those roles, I took on perpetrators of all.
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  Speaker 9: Kinds, Predators who abused women, fraudsters who ripped off consumers,
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  Speaker 9: cheaters who broke the rules for their own game.
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  Speaker 6: So hear me when I say I know Donald Trump's type.
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  Speaker 1: So under estimating Kamala Harris is going to be a
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  Speaker 1: big mistake because one, she is not stupid, despite occasional
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  Speaker 1: appearances to the contrary. Two, most important, she is a
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  Speaker 1: shape shifter for most voters. Like I said, she's a
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  Speaker 1: blank slate. She can now reinvent herself like she's actually
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  Speaker 1: done before. Let's look at the record. Despite seeming like
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  Speaker 1: a woke nitwit now, Harris in fact used to be
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  Speaker 1: tough on crime as a district jurneal and then in
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  Speaker 1: the attorney and then Attorney General in California. She built
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  Speaker 1: herself as a new voice for justice, tough on gangs,
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  Speaker 1: tough on criminals, wrote a book two Smart on Crime,
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  Speaker 1: a career prosecutor's plan to make her safer. It's only
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  Speaker 1: when she joined Joe Bunden's team that she shape shifted
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  Speaker 1: to a leftist soft on crime. When Black Lives Matter
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  Speaker 1: protests sept far into American cities looted their shops, Harris
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  Speaker 1: appealed for donations to a legal fund that promised to
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  Speaker 1: help those who were arrested post bail. Another example, Kamala
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  Speaker 1: Harris full name Kamala Devi Harris used to promote her
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  Speaker 1: Indian roots. She's in fact the daughter of an Indian
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  Speaker 1: woman who raised her single mother from when Kamala was
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  Speaker 1: seven and the father left the family. But now when
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  Speaker 1: the black vote is so important, Kamala Harris is sold
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  Speaker 1: as an African American, although she's not. Her father was
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  Speaker 1: from Jamaica. More's shape shifting out in the stump of
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  Speaker 1: state fairs, Harris flakes to get the rural vote by
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  Speaker 1: tucking into a duty steak or eating a cheeseburger or
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  Speaker 1: dropping into a barbecue outlet. But as Biden's vice president,
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  Speaker 1: she's become a global warming warrior who actually wants to
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  Speaker 1: stop Americans eating meat.
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  Speaker 7: Countries have changed their dietary guidelines to reduce the conception
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  Speaker 7: of red meat in night.
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  Speaker 10: Of the impact of the climate change.
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  Speaker 6: So the answer is yes, there has to be also
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  Speaker 6: what we do in terms of creating incentives that we
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  Speaker 6: will eat in a healthy way, that we will encourage moderation,
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  Speaker 6: and that we will be educated about the effect of
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  Speaker 6: our eating habits on our environment.
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  Speaker 8: Would you support changing the dietary guidelines?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, you know the food parent people say yes to
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  Speaker 11: reduce red meat specifically, Yes, I would.
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  Speaker 1: It's incredible to watch what shape won't Kamala Harris shift
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  Speaker 1: to in a desperate climb to the top. And it's
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  Speaker 1: one last example which is quite personal and quite important.
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  Speaker 1: Harris is actually married to a Jewish lawyer who says
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  Speaker 1: his faith has deepened with all this disturbing anti Semitism
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  Speaker 1: we've now seen. And who blames him for that? I
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  Speaker 1: mean Harris. Those meanwhile, appealed to her party's hard left
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  Speaker 1: by damning Israel so much that she was sold by
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  Speaker 1: the administration to tone it down. She even demanded a
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  Speaker 1: six week immediate cease father that would have handed Hermas victory.
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  Speaker 1: And now, with Israel's Prime minister landing in Washington overnight
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  Speaker 1: to address to the US Congress, Harris is refusing a
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  Speaker 1: Senate president to preside over his speech, saying, oh, oh,
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  Speaker 1: diary clash. She might see him later, shape shifter. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I know all this leaves you wondering if Kamala Harris
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  Speaker 1: is any moral center, has any deepurbiding principles. It's just
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  Speaker 1: the grifter willing to do absolutely anything to get to
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  Speaker 1: the top. And that's why the republicer's got to watch out.
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  Speaker 1: One thing she might do is make any change. She
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  Speaker 1: needs to beat Donald Trump, and with all the money
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  Speaker 1: in the world now pouring in to help her, it
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  Speaker 1: could happen. Join me, Sewan Spy, said Donald Trump's first
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  Speaker 1: white half spokesman as president, showing Spice is great to
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  Speaker 1: see you again. Look, if Joe Biden is not mentally
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  Speaker 1: or physically fit to run for president, is he fit
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  Speaker 1: to be president?
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  Speaker 8: There's two answers to that question.
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  Speaker 12: There is the national security answer that I think a
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  Speaker 12: lot of Americans are asking if you're and just as
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  Speaker 12: a side note, look in March of nineteen sixty eight,
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  Speaker 12: Lyndon Baines Johnson, who was the President of the United
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  Speaker 12: States at the time, went on television and said, I'm
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  Speaker 12: not running for reelection. I won't accept the nomination of
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  Speaker 12: the Democratic Party because of the Vietnam War.
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  Speaker 8: I want to spend all of my efforts there.
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  Speaker 12: That's what I would say is the why, right, Why
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  Speaker 12: are you not going to run for reelection?
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  Speaker 8: Why are you not accepting the nomination, he was.
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  Speaker 12: Able to answer it. The letter that Joe Biden put
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  Speaker 12: out doesn't answer why. Nowhere in that letter does he
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  Speaker 12: explain why he's not running for reelection. He just says,
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  Speaker 12: I've accomplished a lot, there's more to be done, and
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  Speaker 12: I'm not That's a concern that I think we should
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  Speaker 12: be asking, because I think the reality is what we
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  Speaker 12: know that it's a medical health issue. But he doesn't
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  Speaker 12: want to say it because it gets to the question
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  Speaker 12: that you're asking. Okay, so let me get back to
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  Speaker 12: this for a second. There is a national security aspect
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  Speaker 12: to this that I think, rightly many Americans are concerned about.
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  Speaker 12: But then there's the political issue, which I'm also concerned with.
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  Speaker 12: And I've said to my fellow Republicans for the past
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  Speaker 12: twenty four hours, knock it off if you. If he
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  Speaker 12: were to resign, which frankly he will not, Okay, and
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  Speaker 12: that would that or the twenty fifth Amendment of our
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  Speaker 12: Constitution would have to get invoked to remove him. Either
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  Speaker 12: he would voluntarily step aside, which he will not, or
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  Speaker 12: his cabinet will remove him, which.
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  Speaker 8: They will not.
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  Speaker 12: But Republicans need to understand that God forbid, he did
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  Speaker 12: do that, then Kamala Harris would become the incumbent president
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  Speaker 12: and we'd have to run against an incumbent president with
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  Speaker 12: the trappings of the office. That would be a stupid,
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  Speaker 12: stupid thing. So for those two reasons, one he's not
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  Speaker 12: going to do it, and two if he did, that
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  Speaker 12: would make the race harder. Republicans need to knock it
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  Speaker 12: off in the United States. It doesn't help us.
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  Speaker 1: Sean Spicey, you go straight to the point that I
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  Speaker 1: raised last night. I thought the Republicans who were being
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  Speaker 1: far too cocky about their chances against the Harris is
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  Speaker 1: not a complete idiot, although I admit she presents as one.
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  Speaker 1: She has done some, you know, rather impressive things in
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  Speaker 1: the past, not lately though she has raised eighty one
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  Speaker 1: million dollars US in just twenty four hours for her campaign. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: how serious a danger is she really to Donald Trump?
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  Speaker 8: Very? I mean, I'm with you, Andrew.
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  Speaker 12: I think we see eye to eye despite all the
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  Speaker 12: water that's between us right now. The bottom line is this,
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  Speaker 12: This race has shifted many. Look, do is Donald Trump
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  Speaker 12: still the prohibitive favorite?
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  Speaker 8: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 12: Is it still his race to lose? Absolutely? But make
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  Speaker 12: no mistake about it, the dynamic has changed. The biggest
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  Speaker 12: issue for so many voters, especially on the Democratic side
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  Speaker 12: and independence, was the mental acuity and the ability to
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  Speaker 12: serve as president that Joe Biden presented.
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  Speaker 8: Kamala Harris takes that right off the table.
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  Speaker 12: Now you have a different set of issues to go
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  Speaker 12: after her, on her policies or belief, her experience, her record,
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  Speaker 12: the record at the MM as a team, her failure
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  Speaker 12: security border, There's a huge list.
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  Speaker 8: But Republicans who.
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  Speaker 12: Don't take her seriously do so at their own peril.
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  Speaker 12: This will be a much closer race. She is going
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  Speaker 12: to get a sugar high of a bump in the polls,
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  Speaker 12: especially after she picks her vice president.
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  Speaker 8: It will come back down.
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  Speaker 12: But at the end of the day, anybody that doesn't
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  Speaker 12: fully appreciate that hundreds of millions of dollars remaking this
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  Speaker 12: woman into whatever she wants to be whatever. And that's
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  Speaker 12: the other point that I would make is that for
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  Speaker 12: so many people, whether it's people like you and me,
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  Speaker 12: the people who watch your show or my podcast, we're
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  Speaker 12: far following the news. We know about Kamala Harris, we
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  Speaker 12: know about a record. But I would challenge anyone in
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  Speaker 12: the United States to walk down the city or town
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  Speaker 12: that you're from and ask the next twenty people if
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  Speaker 12: they know who she is, and I would argue that
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  Speaker 12: probably maybe ten of them say, yeah, I know her.
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  Speaker 8: I think she's the vice president.
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  Speaker 12: But ask them to go an inch deep tell me
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  Speaker 12: something she's done. And it's only the people who are
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  Speaker 12: really following the day to day evolution of politics that
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  Speaker 12: might be able to name something. The rest of folks,
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  Speaker 12: you know, again, we're just she's It's not a very
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  Speaker 12: high profile position in our country, and so a lot
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  Speaker 12: of Americans are going to say I've heard of her.
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  Speaker 8: I might know her name, but that's it.
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  Speaker 12: And so hundreds of millions of dollars of advertising we
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  Speaker 12: making her is can make a huge difference positive or negative.
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  Speaker 12: And that's why I'm saying Republicans need to understand that
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  Speaker 12: the dynamic of this race has vastly changed and that
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  Speaker 12: we need to get on it quickly and define her
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  Speaker 12: as a candidate.
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  Speaker 1: She has got a lot of room to reinvent herself.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, to vent to herself. I think that she's
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  Speaker 1: been a shape shifter all along. An opportunity might say
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  Speaker 1: as a prosecutor, she was boasting she was tough on crime,
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  Speaker 1: and Joe Biden's team, she was actually doing the opposite,
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  Speaker 1: raising bail money for Black lives matters rioters. Early in
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  Speaker 1: her career, she was stressing her Indian roots. Now she's
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  Speaker 1: being hailed as the African American. She's married a religious
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  Speaker 1: Jewish Man. Now she's tougher in Israel than Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 1: It won't even meet Benjamin Etnad is really a prime
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  Speaker 1: minister on his visit to watching to which starts. Now,
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  Speaker 1: she's a shape shifter, and she could change, I think,
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  Speaker 1: as you suggest, from being perceived as an airhead into
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  Speaker 1: a safe bed. Yeah.
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  Speaker 12: I think the Trump campaign should play the tape back
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  Speaker 12: of exactly what you described and be and understand that
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  Speaker 12: she has been tough on crime, she's been weak on crime.
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  Speaker 12: I mean, she has gone all over the place on
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  Speaker 12: every single issue, depending on the office that she's seeking
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  Speaker 12: and the immediate goal that she's trying to achieve, and
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  Speaker 12: nothing will change it. And the figure and the fact
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  Speaker 12: of the matter is that no one's going to remember
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  Speaker 12: her record as a DA in California, or the Attorney
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  Speaker 12: general in California, or even the position she took on Senator.
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  Speaker 12: So she's going to get out there and redefine herself.
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  Speaker 12: And then, by the way, just so we're clear, my
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  Speaker 12: guess is that she either picks Mark Kelly, the Senator
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  Speaker 12: from Arizona or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania, as
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  Speaker 12: her running mete. Once that happens, then they'll be able
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  Speaker 12: to inject an entire new set of principles and policies
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  Speaker 12: that they'll say are different than the Biden Harris ones.
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  Speaker 1: Just finally, shaw On Spice, totally overshadowed by Joe Biden
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  Speaker 1: stepping down, has been the unbelievable cartoonish Keystone Cops security
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  Speaker 1: failures that led to Don Trump being wounded in an
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  Speaker 1: attempted assassination just over a week ago. Like how the
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  Speaker 1: gunman was let to go on the roof of a
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  Speaker 1: building overlooking the stage. How this is a secret service
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  Speaker 1: sposs Kimberlee Cheedle said, Oh, the roof was too slopey
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  Speaker 1: for police to be posted up there, though the slope
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  Speaker 1: was about like wheelchair access slope. How she had a
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  Speaker 1: diversity policy to horror more women with the women guarding
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  Speaker 1: Trump were actually too short. One was so flushed that
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  Speaker 1: she couldn't even holds her a gun. Other seemed totally
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  Speaker 1: confused about what to do well. Cheeta has now given
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  Speaker 1: evidence the congressional hearing. It was yesterday out time and
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  Speaker 1: turned up herself with all mail guards may I add
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  Speaker 1: sean all of them tall. But she had almost no
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  Speaker 1: answers to why the security was so bungled or how
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  Speaker 1: the gunman got through even carrying a range finder. It
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  Speaker 1: was a Debarcle. Have you visited the Saint No?
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  Speaker 8: I have not nine days and you have not visited
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  Speaker 8: the sat.
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  Speaker 12: Have you provided all audio and video recordings in your
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  Speaker 12: possession to this committee, as we asked on July fifteenth,
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  Speaker 12: Yes or no.
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  Speaker 8: I would have to get back to you that as
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  Speaker 8: a no.
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  Speaker 7: You're full of it today.
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  Speaker 8: You're just being completely dishonest.
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  Speaker 1: What did you take out of that hearing?
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  Speaker 12: I think you and I came away with the same conclusions.
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  Speaker 12: The thing that I found fascinating Andrew is in the
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  Speaker 12: United States, if there's a natural disaster or a crime,
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  Speaker 12: there's an immediate media response, right that they set up
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  Speaker 12: some kind of outposts and give constant briefings. You think
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  Speaker 12: about the bridge in Baltimore, Maryland that got hit by
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  Speaker 12: that tanker a few weeks ago.
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  Speaker 8: They had a.
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  Speaker 12: Press center set up right away constant briefing to local
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  Speaker 12: and state from local and state officials and law enforcement
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  Speaker 12: and other agencies and departments. There's been not one single
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  Speaker 12: briefing from the United States Government, the Secret Service, the
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  Speaker 12: Department of handlet in Security since that assassination attempt took place.
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  Speaker 12: Not what the answers at the hearing were pathetic at best,
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  Speaker 12: and I think it was an embarrassment for the director.
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  Speaker 12: I don't know if she wasn't prepped, if she's not
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  Speaker 12: in the loop. But here's the reality. I think that
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  Speaker 12: she either just figures, hey, I might as well stay
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  Speaker 12: in the job, and because I know.
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  Speaker 8: I'm going to get removed at the end of this administration.
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  Speaker 12: There's a lot lot of ties that she has to
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  Speaker 12: Joe Biden from her previous detail, and so she enjoys
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  Speaker 12: probably some degree of cover from the First family. But
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  Speaker 12: the reality is this that woman either decides voluntarily to
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  Speaker 12: step down soon or she will be let go in
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  Speaker 12: a Donald Trump administration. There is bipartisan agreement that the
• 18:16
  Speaker 12: Secret Service let down one of their top protectees, the
• 18:21
  Speaker 12: former president, the current leader for president of the United States,
• 18:25
  Speaker 12: that was a moment where he could have exhibited leadership
• 18:28
  Speaker 12: and said I am firing the director, and he didn't
• 18:32
  Speaker 12: do it, and this would have been it was a
• 18:34
  Speaker 12: bipartisan it would have been welcomed on a bipartisan basis.
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: And that's what blows my mind.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: In spe Always great to talk to you.
• 18:42
  Speaker 8: Thank you, Andrews.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Ten new examples of the line that goes on in
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: the Aboriginal industry. It's just so totally counterproductive. Let me
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: start with this one. The other one after the break. This,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, is your federal agricultural minister presenting a
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: total fraud? Is absolutely true? A feeling like it's actually
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: quite moral to repeat a line.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: I'd also like to start by acknowledging the traditional owners
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: of the land that we're gathering on today are our
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: first farmers.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Aborigines were our first farmers. It's a complete falsehood. Of course.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: It was actually preached by fake Aboriginy Bruce Pascoe and
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: his best seller dark Emu, claiming no averages were not
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: what the evidence suggests hunt to gatherers, but farmers living
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: in towns of a thousand people in houses in estates.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: He said, with foods stored in hunts. Now there's no
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: excuse for what repeating Pasco's falsehoods, because there have been
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: two books since written apart from all my articles, two
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: books debunking Pascoe's false claim, won by an anthropologist the other.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: The first is Bitter Harvest by Peter O'Brien. Joins me. Now,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Peter O'Brien, thanks for your time. What do you make
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: of Minister watts announcement that Adborridge these were our first farmers?
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Why does that matter?
• 20:04
  Speaker 13: For well over two hundred years, we've had hundreds, if
• 20:08
  Speaker 13: not thousands, of highly qualified anthropologists doing field work studying
• 20:13
  Speaker 13: Aboriginal culture, and not one of them, not one has
• 20:17
  Speaker 13: ever claimed that Aborigines were farmers. And then along comes
• 20:22
  Speaker 13: a man with I think a degree in Bachelor of
• 20:24
  Speaker 13: education degree turns it all on his head, and everybody
• 20:28
  Speaker 13: has accepted it. And even after it's been debunked by myself,
• 20:32
  Speaker 13: by the Darkma Exposed website, and by true anthropologists Sutton
• 20:37
  Speaker 13: and Walsh, this still gets coverage if we look at
• 20:42
  Speaker 13: if we look at one just one aspect of farming,
• 20:44
  Speaker 13: the most important one is sowing seed. If you don't
• 20:48
  Speaker 13: not sowing seed, then you're not a farmer. And in
• 20:52
  Speaker 13: Pasco's book he gives just three examples, just three of
• 20:56
  Speaker 13: Aborigines sowing seed. They all took place in the twentieth century,
• 21:01
  Speaker 13: they were all small scale, broadcast by hand, and they
• 21:05
  Speaker 13: were all almost certainly examples of spiritual propagation that anthropologist
• 21:11
  Speaker 13: Peter Sutton pointed out in his book.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: But Peter, this falsehood has actually become government policy. I mean,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: in Victoria, for instance, the labor government's offering grants of
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: up to one million dollars for projects to integrate it says,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Aboriginal traditional knowledge and practices into elements of accredited agriculture
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: training and to recognize the value of average traditional knowledge
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: and practices in agriculture. What traditional knowledge, what traditional practices?
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, if they sped up two million dollars to
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: teach Aboriginies how to be farmers using Western ways, I'd
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: accept that. But to teach farmers who are successful in
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Aboriginal ways that never exists. That that seems to me
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: absolutely bonkers.
• 21:59
  Speaker 13: Andrew, I've had a look at the website for that program.
• 22:02
  Speaker 13: I don't know how much has been set aside for
• 22:05
  Speaker 13: the overall program. I don't know how many one million
• 22:08
  Speaker 13: dollar grants will be issued out, but the waste of
• 22:11
  Speaker 13: money is staggering if you look at the If you
• 22:14
  Speaker 13: look at the objectives of the website of the program,
• 22:18
  Speaker 13: the first one is to integrate Aboriginal traditional knowledge and
• 22:21
  Speaker 13: practices into elements of accredited agricultural training. Well, we know
• 22:25
  Speaker 13: that Aboriginal traditional practice has no relevance to modern farming.
• 22:31
  Speaker 13: The second objective is to ensure accreditive training delivered through
• 22:34
  Speaker 13: the program is culturally safe. The third one is to
• 22:39
  Speaker 13: encourage First Nations people to take up a career in agriculture,
• 22:43
  Speaker 13: and the fourth one is to recognize the value of
• 22:46
  Speaker 13: Aboriginal traditional knowledge. Well throughout the website there's a lot
• 22:50
  Speaker 13: of emphasis emphasis on cultural safety and a lot of
• 22:54
  Speaker 13: a lot of emphasis more sinister in my view, on
• 22:58
  Speaker 13: protection of indigenous into selectual property. So the fact is
• 23:03
  Speaker 13: that we don't know. Nothing in that program says what
• 23:07
  Speaker 13: this knowledge is, and so we're going to have to
• 23:10
  Speaker 13: take it on trust that the traditional knowledge holders will
• 23:14
  Speaker 13: be will in fact be providing something of value. There
• 23:17
  Speaker 13: is nothing in the program that says how they will
• 23:19
  Speaker 13: evaluate whether these whether these programs will actually add to
• 23:25
  Speaker 13: the productivity or effectiveness of Australian farming practice, which is
• 23:30
  Speaker 13: built on thousands of years of practice, it just looks
• 23:35
  Speaker 13: so it's just a thought bubble, and I think that
• 23:41
  Speaker 13: I doubt that it's going to provide a lot of
• 23:43
  Speaker 13: work for Aboriginal people, meaningful work, but it sure is
• 23:48
  Speaker 13: a lot of work for Victorian bureaucrats. And I've no
• 23:53
  Speaker 13: doubt that Professor Pasco will be lining up to add
• 23:56
  Speaker 13: his input to this.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Honestly, you mentioned Pasco there. I mean, if I find
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: it ironic that all this is happening in Pasco, as
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I said in the program, I think last week has
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: put out a beating letter asking for donations to save
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: his own farm, which is supposedly run on aberage and
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: agricultural practices, and they are in trouble, staying afloat even
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: with two million dollars in grants and donations. So seriously,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: get with it more Aboriginal farmers. We need more Aboriginal farms.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Very happy to help that, but Aboriginal traditional Aboriginal farm practices,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: that is a mirage and how money should not be
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: wasted on that. Peter O'Brien, thank you so much for
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: your time and congratulations on your book. The first to
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: expose this, Bruce Pasco hoax.
• 24:43
  Speaker 13: Thank you very much, Andrew.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: After the break the Albanize the government is about to
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: spend sixty million dollars and one rugby union club, a
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: rugby league club in Pupua, New Guinea. How does that
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: make sense? Tremendous news. Labor was telling you a nuclear
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: parents just too dangerous for this country. They even posted
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: pictures warning that we get three eyed koalas or a
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: three eyed fish. But now Federal Defense Industry's Minister Pat
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Conroy is saying no, no, no, wait, wait wait wait,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: it's trying to hose down the skin they started. Nuclear
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: isn't dangerous the waste is trying to calm down locals
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: at Rockingham, south of Perth who worried the nearby naval
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: base is going to have a nuclear waste sight for
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: our new nuclear subs. Don't worry, says Minster Conroy. Completely
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: safe this nuclear stuff. It's been approved by their regulatory authorities.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Joining me is my regular Tuesday guess, National Centat of
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Matt Canavan, the former Resources Minister. Matt. What a relief,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: fantastic news.
• 25:49
  Speaker 14: Well, it might be relief for you and I, Andrew,
• 25:51
  Speaker 14: but I would have thought this government might be a
• 25:52
  Speaker 14: bit more upset about an animal going extinct given their
• 25:56
  Speaker 14: preferences here, because it looks like the three eyed fish
• 25:58
  Speaker 14: they presided over. I set you from the three eyed
• 26:00
  Speaker 14: fish within a month is no longer appearing on our shores.
• 26:04
  Speaker 14: Because just a month ago, these clowns in this Albanesi government,
• 26:08
  Speaker 14: we're out there warning us all that going down the
• 26:11
  Speaker 14: nuclear path, producing nuclear energy in this country would lead
• 26:14
  Speaker 14: to mutant fish, mutant koalas, as you say, terrorizing all
• 26:19
  Speaker 14: of us around the country. And then just a month later,
• 26:22
  Speaker 14: the very same type of nuclear actors, same type of
• 26:24
  Speaker 14: nuclear energy, apparently won't cause any issue at all. There's
• 26:28
  Speaker 14: no cause for alarm. I mean, this government's clearly reaping
• 26:31
  Speaker 14: what it sowed here down in Rockingham. And that's why
• 26:34
  Speaker 14: it's ridiculous. Scare campaign was not just a laughable exercise
• 26:39
  Speaker 14: in political campaigning. It was also a threat to our
• 26:41
  Speaker 14: national security because clearly we need the submarines. We need
• 26:46
  Speaker 14: to strengthen our nations defenses. Both sides of politics now
• 26:50
  Speaker 14: are on board to acquire these submarines. It's going to
• 26:52
  Speaker 14: be an enormous effort, one of the biggest defense acquisitions,
• 26:55
  Speaker 14: the biggest really defense acquisition our history, one of the
• 26:57
  Speaker 14: most challenging ones to do as well, and applying this
• 27:01
  Speaker 14: type of politics was always only going to potentially put
• 27:03
  Speaker 14: at risk that program, as it seems to here. The
• 27:06
  Speaker 14: reality is, of course, at nuclear submarines are perfectly safe,
• 27:09
  Speaker 14: as is nuclear energy, and the government would be best
• 27:12
  Speaker 14: to just focus on the real issues rather than get
• 27:15
  Speaker 14: distracted with those juvenile university type politics scare campaigns they
• 27:20
  Speaker 14: seem to specialize in.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Well lovely to see it back far on them, Matt
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: to look, this really offends me, this playing of the
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: gender card. I think you should offend all women. Really
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Opportunity Depeed today warned that the TiAl independence back by
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Climate two thousand and multimillionaire Simon Homes Court that had
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: been quite useless these MPs in Federal Parliament and not
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: quite on a star other.
• 27:44
  Speaker 11: Here is Climate two hundred is a front for Green candidates.
• 27:49
  Speaker 11: They're not disaffected Liberal candidates, they're Green candidates. And I
• 27:55
  Speaker 11: just think, look at what the Teals have done when
• 27:58
  Speaker 11: they've been in parliament. I mean, can anyone anything that
• 28:00
  Speaker 11: the Teals have achieved since they've been in parliament? I
• 28:05
  Speaker 11: mean there's nothing. They've come in with an agenda to
• 28:08
  Speaker 11: vote for the Labor Party, to support the Greens, and
• 28:11
  Speaker 11: they haven't achieved anything in their local electorates.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Now, Peter Dunton hadn't mentioned gender at all in this
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: but one of the teal Independent Zoe Stegel, then played
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: the gender card on him. Dutton is a sexist.
• 28:25
  Speaker 13: Oh look, I think it really shows that Peter Dutton
• 28:28
  Speaker 13: still has a problem with professional women being strong and
• 28:33
  Speaker 13: independent minded.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: M canavan your response to that ludicrous playing of the
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: gender card.
• 28:41
  Speaker 14: Look, I've only just seen that for the first time,
• 28:43
  Speaker 14: but I think the only people in this story that
• 28:45
  Speaker 14: are playing a gender card, that are being engaged in
• 28:48
  Speaker 14: somewhat sexist conduct is Zalie Stegel there, Because how would
• 28:53
  Speaker 14: she infer that just calling somebody useless is in any
• 28:56
  Speaker 14: way gender specific. She must be the only one some
• 29:00
  Speaker 14: kind of gender prejudice here, because, of course I think
• 29:04
  Speaker 14: anybody can be useless, some people can be some of them.
• 29:06
  Speaker 14: Useless people can be men, some useless people can be women.
• 29:10
  Speaker 14: Of course, Alie Steger would probably dispute Peter's characterization, but
• 29:13
  Speaker 14: it's just absolutely absurd to claim that's gender specific unless
• 29:16
  Speaker 14: you yourself are playing into some kind of imaginary gender tropes.
• 29:20
  Speaker 14: So look, it is just such a shame. Peter is
• 29:22
  Speaker 14: exactly right, though, what have the tills achieved? I realized
• 29:26
  Speaker 14: they're not in government? But for example, I'm not in government,
• 29:28
  Speaker 14: and myself and Michelle Lanery and others got the Rocky
• 29:31
  Speaker 14: Ring Road funding red remade when we put on a
• 29:34
  Speaker 14: massive scare, a scared, massive political campaign to change that outcome.
• 29:38
  Speaker 14: And I just don't know what the Tials have really
• 29:40
  Speaker 14: done in here. They prance around this place and act
• 29:44
  Speaker 14: like they are holier than now, yet they don't seem
• 29:48
  Speaker 14: that good at actually delivering results for the people they
• 29:50
  Speaker 14: read to represent. And ultimately, that's what this business is
• 29:53
  Speaker 14: all about.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it didn't fantalizes women like you said, implayers.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: You said useless. You mean because I'm a woman. I
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: mean really, Oh that's just terrible, well spotted. But maccanavan,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: here's another thing I don't understand. We have got a
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: constan living crisis in Australia, Papua New Guinea has a
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: poverty crisis. Yet this albanis the government is about to
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: spend sixty million dollars of our money over ten years
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: to give Papua New Guinea an NRL team to join
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: our NRL competition. Now they you know, there's an excuse
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: to make people in Papua New Guinea like Australia more
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: than they like China. I didn't know that was in
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: the balance. But is this truly the best use of
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: our money on our side or their side? Look, I
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: probably might disagree with you here.
• 30:40
  Speaker 14: I do think we should do as Rugbi League as
• 30:42
  Speaker 14: much as we can in this relationship. We are not
• 30:44
  Speaker 14: going to win and all that infrastructure war with China
• 30:47
  Speaker 14: on Papua New Guinea. Last time I was in Port Moresby,
• 30:50
  Speaker 14: there were billboards thanking President g for the infrastructure he
• 30:53
  Speaker 14: had provided there. So this is a serious issue for
• 30:56
  Speaker 14: our country. China is very active on our doorstep. But
• 31:00
  Speaker 14: of course one card we have that China doesn't have
• 31:03
  Speaker 14: is the fact that Papua New Guinea's national religion almost
• 31:06
  Speaker 14: is rugby league and it's something we of course play
• 31:09
  Speaker 14: a lot too. You might not down there below on
• 31:11
  Speaker 14: the southern side of the border, but we do up
• 31:13
  Speaker 14: here now in saying that, I do think there are
• 31:15
  Speaker 14: issues here, So in theory I support this idea. I
• 31:17
  Speaker 14: think there are practical issues though about will this team succeed.
• 31:21
  Speaker 14: That's the issue. So I'm not really worried about the
• 31:23
  Speaker 14: size of the money. I mean, Andrew, if we want
• 31:24
  Speaker 14: to save money, I've got some other areas for You've
• 31:26
  Speaker 14: got the twelve billion dollars the governor's uselessly putting into
• 31:29
  Speaker 14: hydrogen that even twigety Forest is putting a jumping out us.
• 31:32
  Speaker 14: So let's to start with that. So sixty million dollars
• 31:34
  Speaker 14: a year to me is not excessive to protect our
• 31:38
  Speaker 14: relationship with our closest neighbor. But I do think there
• 31:42
  Speaker 14: are practical questions here about making this team succeed.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: It'll be very challenging.
• 31:47
  Speaker 14: But we do, of course need to counter China's influence
• 31:51
  Speaker 14: campaigns in our region.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I think it's tragic when they've got gang warfare, when
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: they've got a crime problem, that's just terrible. When you
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: haven't got running water or electricity in some of the
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: remoter places, when law and orders a huge issue, education
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: is a huge issue. Rugby League will save it. I mean, seriously,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: if it's not our problem, it certainly is Papua New
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Guineas problem. These priorities Mtcanavando here your point. Thank you
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: so much for your time, and congratulations on ten years
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: in parliament too. A great job you've done, so so
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: much strong work. I appreciate that. After the break, another
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: fake Aboriginal. But this time I think we've got to
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: blame our racist laws for making it so tempting to
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: be black. Now to that second example I mentioned before
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: the break, of the kind of fraud that's dividing us
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: and corrupting the help we'd like to give to Aborigines,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: real aboriginies if Victoria. A big surprise, a Supreme Court
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: judge freed this woman, Hayley Terrey bail because she'd said
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: she was an Aboriginy and new bail laws of victorious
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: so averages shouldn't be kept in jail without good reason
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: when there were so many there already, So out she walked.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: This woman had been charged over high end burglary, seven
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: firearms stolen, four hundred and seventy thousand dollars in cash,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: gold nuggets and more. Now I'm ready, I'm sure you're
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: thinking too that law is a racist. Why should this
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: woman be treated any differently from any other Australian just
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: because she has some ancestors among many others who happen
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: to be Aboriginal, except of course she didn't. She made
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: it all up and now there's an arrest warrant out
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: for her. Now, before I get to the panel, I
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: should add that it's not just low life fakes claiming
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: to be Aboriginal. This goes to the top. Now we've
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: mentioned on this show, for instance, a number of people
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: all claiming to be Aboriginal, the likes of the Attorney
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: General South Australia, for instance, claims to be Aboriginal and
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: his genealogy actually shows no record of that. Same with
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Federal Labor and Gordon Reid, Same with Professor Kerry Doyle,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Same with Professor Bruce Pasco and others I've mentioned. If
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: they are Aboriginal, if I made a mistake, they refuse
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: to show me or any other journalists their proof. I'm
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: joined by my Tuesday panel, Will Kingston, host of at Will,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: a weekly podcast from the Spectator, and Politics and Culture,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: and This Stora co hosts of the Late Debate, excellent
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: show here at Sky News at ten pm. Now, well,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: there is a rule, isn't there. Every law creates a crime,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: and in this case, race laws. The special get out
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: of jail card for just one race creates people who
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: fake claims of their averages to get advantage of this.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Do we really need such laws?
• 34:44
  Speaker 10: No, this is grotesque, Andrew. It's a sad reflection of
• 34:49
  Speaker 10: how identity politics has infiltrated our judicial system. It is
• 34:54
  Speaker 10: anathma to Western legal principles. But the thing which I
• 34:58
  Speaker 10: just can't get my head around that they can't see
• 35:00
  Speaker 10: this is it is so counterproductive for Indigenous Australians. It
• 35:04
  Speaker 10: turns indigeneity into a fashion statement for politicians. As you mentioned,
• 35:09
  Speaker 10: it is a token for non Indigenous people to get
• 35:12
  Speaker 10: out of punishments, and it perpetuates this victim wood narrative
• 35:17
  Speaker 10: that says we need to treat Indigenous people differently. And
• 35:21
  Speaker 10: until we get over this nonsense attitude that I thought
• 35:25
  Speaker 10: I hoped we'd got over at the end of the
• 35:27
  Speaker 10: Voice debate, then we will continue to see these types
• 35:30
  Speaker 10: of things happening because it treats indigeneity as a token
• 35:34
  Speaker 10: as opposed to something which is credible and real and
• 35:37
  Speaker 10: should be taken seriously.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: So really a rejection to that whole enlightenment thing. You
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: know that we're all brothers and sisters under the skin,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: and justice's color, blame lives.
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: Well, as they say, Andrew, it's only a rat if
• 35:52
  Speaker 7: you're not in on it. I mean, can you blame
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: this woman for having a go? The state creates a
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: two tiered justice system, and this woman's like, well, okay,
• 36:03
  Speaker 7: why should Caucasians be punished more severely for the same crime.
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: Can anyone answer me that? Can anyone tell me how
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: that's not racist?
• 36:11
  Speaker 8: Now?
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: Will has just said this goes against the principles of
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: the Western legal system. But I can tell you my
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: first year, first semester in law school was all about
• 36:22
  Speaker 7: the Bugny principles, was all about the Fernando principles. Both
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: Bugby and Fernando being Indigenous Australians who they were first
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: court cases kind of of their kind, and they created
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: this legal framework about how indigenous peoples are supposed to
• 36:40
  Speaker 7: be sentenced very differently. The Bugmy principle literally says that
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: the effects of severe deprivation is the word that they use.
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: It never ages, they never go away. So even if
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: it's just come down your line and your peoples in
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: the past were a press, then you too are seen
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: as being oppressed and in the eyes of the law,
• 37:05
  Speaker 7: that has to be given full weight. That is the
• 37:08
  Speaker 7: legal terminology in any sentencing of an Indigenous Australian. So
• 37:13
  Speaker 7: this is actually baked into our legal principles here in
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: Australia now and forever more. I can't see anyone turning
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: it around from where it is today.
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  Speaker 11: Liz I had no doubt.
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  Speaker 10: I was just going to say, Andrew, I've no doubt
• 37:30
  Speaker 10: that Liz was a better law student than I was.
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  Speaker 10: So I'm happy to defer to you on that one.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: We concur okay, But will this new racism of the left.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Here's an example from America, which in my mind's never
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: seen more divided by race in my lifetime. Well that's
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: probably exaggeration, but not in decades. Here's the governor of
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Maryland posing with Vice President Kamala Harris now running against
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump, tweeting Donald Trump is to find out being
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: the President of the United States is a black job.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: What's your problem with that?
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  Speaker 10: Well, my problem with that is that you only ever
• 38:10
  Speaker 10: hear this stuff from two groups. You either hear it
• 38:12
  Speaker 10: from African American politicians or you hear it from white
• 38:16
  Speaker 10: educated in a city elites. You know where you don't
• 38:20
  Speaker 10: really hear this sort of rhetoric from you don't hear
• 38:22
  Speaker 10: it from every day African American people, from every day
• 38:25
  Speaker 10: Latino people, because they actually don't buy into this stuff.
• 38:29
  Speaker 10: And there's a really good reason that Donald Trump is
• 38:32
  Speaker 10: actually making huge inrows into the African American vote in America.
• 38:36
  Speaker 10: He may even win the Latino vote in America, which
• 38:38
  Speaker 10: would be one of the most extraordinary political phenomena of
• 38:42
  Speaker 10: modern times, because they themselves don't see themselves as a
• 38:45
  Speaker 10: voting bloc based around their race. They care about the
• 38:48
  Speaker 10: same bread and butter issues that non black or non
• 38:52
  Speaker 10: Latino people care about. And I think that this is
• 38:54
  Speaker 10: really going to backfire for Kamala Harris if, as predicted,
• 38:59
  Speaker 10: she plays the race card throughout her campaign.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Well, I would hope. So. I'm just so sick of
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: this identity politics. But I got to say, Liz, I,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Americas divided, and it takes two to do that. The
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Republicans have their own crazies who's seem dead keen and
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: making the return of Donald Trump actually seem and menace
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: the voters when I think they should be saying, look,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump's a healer. If you can manage to pull
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: that off. Here'sator, a senator from a state senator from Ohio,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: George Lane, at a rally for Trump's pick for Vice president, JD. Vance,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: issuing what seems to me a threat if the US
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: doesn't elect Donald Trump. Here is I'm afraid if we
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: lose this one, it's going to take a civil war
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: to save the country. Liz. What's with Republicans like him?
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Why do they have to seem so abnormal?
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: There's idiots in every single party, Andrew unfortunately sometimes the majority,
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: but that cannot be said for the Republican Party. This
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: guy is a state senator. One imagines that he was
• 40:06
  Speaker 7: probably really excited to be playing with the big boys
• 40:10
  Speaker 7: in this instance. And he has walked these comments back
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: because of course the media and people alike just on
• 40:16
  Speaker 7: his Twitter feed went to town on him. So he
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: has issued a full apology. But what I couldn't get
• 40:24
  Speaker 7: about this was the amount of applause, like people just
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: clapping along as if like, yay, civil war, why not
• 40:32
  Speaker 7: let's do it on Sunday.
• 40:33
  Speaker 8: I'll bring the chili.
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: He even went on to say, just as well, we've
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: got these biky gangs here today because though'll be really
• 40:40
  Speaker 7: useful if it comes down to a civil war, mate,
• 40:44
  Speaker 7: are you what are you on? And it's no surprise
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: that jd Vance, when he did take the stage, did
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: not thank Lang for his speech, because of course Lang
• 40:55
  Speaker 7: had spoken beforehand. Also, if there is a civil war,
• 40:58
  Speaker 7: I'd love to see this guy on front lines because
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: he's hardly a picture of elite physical I mean, I
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: mean I had to him saying this. Nearly half American
• 41:13
  Speaker 7: adults are ob so everyone needs to calm down. Nobody's
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: fighting anyone anytime soon.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Would I would love to see him between me and
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: the other side because you could shelter a whole family
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: behind that guy. So where I know it's I'm right
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: on top of that.
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: That's what he offers for the table.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Liz Are of will Kingston, thank you so much, great
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: good sense from both of you today. Thank you so much.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: As with every day after the break, Paris on edge,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: just days before the Olympics starts. There plus another shocking
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: warning of mass immigration tearing brick in apart to a
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: right that for me again highlights this new tribalism you're
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: seeing in the West, where you get people from different
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: cultures or countries living in the West in such numbers
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: that they can form effectively colonies. Now last week police
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: in Leeds, Yorkshire removed a child from a home after
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: social workers reported children in danger there. Now that home
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: was a Roma one. In fact, many Roma there seem
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: to be from Romania as well. There are also Romanian immigrants,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: and they and others in this very multi ethnic community
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: swarmed to that home to start a riot, overturning police cars,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: burning a bus, forcing the police to run away out
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: of shier fear being so outnumbered. As the mob went
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: on to torch part of their own city, and a
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: local councilor of pro Gas and Muslim recently elected typically
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: blamed the government rather than the rioters.
• 42:48
  Speaker 8: Our community has been.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Let down for so long and whether it's.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: By the local government, whether it's by the national government,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: whether it's by the local authorities, and our community has
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: been buddled that down.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Our community been badly neglected. And around the same time
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: in London, Bangladeshi Londoners, we're writing too this stamary protest
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: against the Bangladeshi government thousands of kilometers away joinally from
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: London's writer, author, commentator and TV presenter. It's the correct
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: it's so great to see you again. But what does
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: this write in Leeds actually tell you.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: It tells us that the government has not taken the
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: issue of integration as seriously as it should have, and
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: that integration looks very different from different groups. So the
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: issue that you saw in Leeds with the bust up is,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: of course there was a child that was removed, that
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: was injured after being a left to learn with four
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: other children in that household. And the reason why the
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: police had such a difficult time dealing with it is
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: because it was a spontaneous rising of violence. They didn't expect,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: They had no sort of intelligence on the ground. These
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: roma communities that have come mainly from Central and Eastern Europe,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: and they came at the time when the EU was
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: expanding and you had free movement that applied to those
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: countries as well. So these people effectively moved to the
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: UK that were unvetted because they had the right of
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: freedom of movement to the UK to work, and they
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: tend to work in kind of low skilled jobs in
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: mainly working class areas, and like many other groups in
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: this country that we see, they tend to self isolate
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: and they have a very anti authority attitude and they
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: feel quite suspicious of any sort of you know, state
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: sponsored programs, authorities, the police, education.
• 44:25
  Speaker 10: And stuff like that.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: And the real issue here is the fact that yes,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: people were assuming that it was from sort of mainly
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Muslim community the parts of Leeds that this happened. But
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: factly the issue of integration extends a lot of communities
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: in this country that are basically in parallel lives to
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: the rest of the UK. You're seeing with these Bangladeshi
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: riots in London last December.
• 44:45
  Speaker 8: We saw them with sort of.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Ethiopian riots and error train riots in the Capitol, and
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: these groups of people that don't actually respect a rule
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: of law and think they can you know, transpose their
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: own violence or or issues from their countries into Britain.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: And this is what you're seeing. The government, unfortunately in
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: the UK, has no integration to do whatsoever. You have
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: people moving in In the the last two years, we've
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: had a million people move to the UK and there's
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: no way to properly integrate them because if you actually
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: try and uphold British values or the British rule of law,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: you're seen as racist or anti immigration. And it's many
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: of these working class communities that are lurting to write
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: wing parties because they feel like no one is listening
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: to them.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: It's the Unfortunately we've lost the video link to you,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: so we can't see your charming face, but we're seeing this,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: i think, ludicrously blurred vision of the rioters. I'm not
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: sure why we think they're are going to sue us
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: for showing what they're actually doing, but there you go
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: to explain. So I'll have to say in early, good body,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that's that, but you're so right. We've
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: got to say. You know, I saw it in the Hague,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: also in eritrain right aer train versus er train in
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: the Hague, in Holland, I mean seriously. And France, of course,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: now they're facing this kind of thing. I mean the
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: air of tension over France with the parents Olympics in
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: a three days away, massive security blitz, massive security experts
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: warning of danger from Islamist terrorism. Why a lot of
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: that Islamus terrorism has been imported into France, right, has
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: been imported into France. We've scenes some horrific terrorism in
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: France from people now born in France, from immigrant communities
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: as well, and now there's an extra zip because of
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: the war in Gaza. We've seen around the Western world.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Suddenly the whole city's a revealing quite how many people
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: from the Middle East have imported are funnily enough, so
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: many with a very strong agenda pro Palestinian and anti
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: the West. We're seeing it here too, and I just
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: got to think governments have got to rethink all this.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: We had mass immigration, and this is not just Australia,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: this is Canada, this is America, this is France, this
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: is England, this is the West. Generally, this naive idea
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: that all these people could come to our countries and
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: they would somehow leave their cultures or their historical grievances,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: their ethnic rivalries, all that behind. It doesn't work that way. Now.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Many did integrate as Socratic perfect example, that's not an
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: issue we're not saying, or we're not even saying most,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: but a number clearly have not. And you can see
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: the difference between the immigration when my parents came over
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: to immigration now, which is now colonization. People can live
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: in a suburb surrounded by people who speak that language
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: of their old home countries, that can watch their home
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: country TV through satellites that don't even need to speak English.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Do you know in Australia now, according to the latest census,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: nearly a million Australians have poor or no English. Can
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: you believe that poor and no English? How do you
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: form a community when you can't even talk to each other?
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Multiculturalism as a policy has got to go. Governor's role
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: is to stress what unites us, not divides. That's it
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: from me. Coming up next this Sherry