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Principles of Overlanding: Expedition Campers · The Overland Journal Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Overland Journal podcast. I am
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  Speaker 1: your host Scott Brady, and I'm joined today by my
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  Speaker 1: co host Matt Scott and we do the deep dive
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  Speaker 1: on the principles of overlanding expedition vehicle campers. So these
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  Speaker 1: are going to be the big expedition trucks that we
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  Speaker 1: see all over Instagram, man trucks, Earth roamers, lmtvs. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to talk about why large vehicles like that are
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  Speaker 1: so popular for overlanding, how to prepare them properly, things
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  Speaker 1: to consider around those vehicles, and why sometimes bigger just
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  Speaker 1: so we're going to talk about the principles of overlanding
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  Speaker 1: expedition vehicles. I'm excited for this one. This is my
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  Speaker 1: specific it is and you have been doing a lot
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  Speaker 1: of research on it recently. You've been spending a lot
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  Speaker 1: of time on the category, and you also, I believe,
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  Speaker 1: have a really strong argument for the benefits of it
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  Speaker 1: and an understanding of the downsides because you've now owned
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  Speaker 1: your Earth for how long?
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  Speaker 2: OHI we bought it at the end of twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that's the lot. That might be the
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  Speaker 1: longest you've ever owned a car.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I have zero interest in selling it. It
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  Speaker 3: is like my prized possession, so to speak. It had
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  Speaker 3: always been a goal, my goal when I was, you know,
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  Speaker 3: just started working at Overland Journal ten years well, it
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  Speaker 3: was more than ten years ago, it was twenty eleven.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted an earth Roamer with a KTM rally bike back.
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  Speaker 1: I've got an earth Roamer with a factory KTM rally
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  Speaker 1: bike in the back. How did your life change when
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  Speaker 1: you arrived at that goal? Like, what, it's something that
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  Speaker 1: you've wanted forever.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously it was a lot of work and
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  Speaker 2: a lot of stress.
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  Speaker 3: I think I think that you know, to put it
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  Speaker 3: in a way that maybe society would understand, is it's
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  Speaker 3: my boat. It's my boat that I could do my
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  Speaker 3: little projects on and I clean and it's my own
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  Speaker 3: little ecosystem in the world that I have complete control over. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you know, so and the way that you know, an
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  Speaker 3: entrepreneur or executive or something might have that boat that's
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  Speaker 3: their escape. The earth Roamer is my land boat, and
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's actually finds. There's a lot of systems
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  Speaker 3: that come from the marine world that they do super
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  Speaker 3: applicable with expedition vehicles. But you know, we just found
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  Speaker 3: out that we started getting out more and we changed
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  Speaker 3: how we traveled. We had for a long time really
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  Speaker 3: focused on very remote places that other people couldn't get to,
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  Speaker 3: and that was, you know, best evidenced by the vehicles
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  Speaker 3: that we were building.
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  Speaker 1: Look, at the gladiator that we had.
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  Speaker 3: If people don't know what it was, it was basically
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  Speaker 3: an av gladiator with adventure trailers or at Overland Summit
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  Speaker 3: camp around the back. And that was awesome because we
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  Speaker 3: were able to get really really remote.
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  Speaker 1: As remote as you wanted to.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you could get something, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think that there would be many vehicles more capable than
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  Speaker 3: that that you could still kind of sleep inside of.
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  Speaker 2: But we started to kind of hit our limits with that.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we obviously we're doting greyhound parents, and Laura
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  Speaker 3: and I are not small people.
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  Speaker 2: On six', two, she's you, know just under six.
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  Speaker 3: Foot our dog is eighty pounds and, big and that
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  Speaker 3: was a lot to ask from that small of a
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  Speaker 3: space to try and have some kind.
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  Speaker 1: Of temperature regulation or.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever, so you, know we always knew that we wanted
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  Speaker 3: some kind of expedition, vehicle and the Earth romer for
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  Speaker 3: us just made so much sense because we knew from
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  Speaker 3: the summit camper that we wanted something that was hard.
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  Speaker 3: Sighted and how you, know to go back to how
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  Speaker 3: it changed our travels is that we were less interested
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  Speaker 3: in the very remote technical trails because we actually ended
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  Speaker 3: up finding that those had become very well.
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  Speaker 1: Used there's a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Of, it and you've done a lot of, them and
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  Speaker 3: we've done, them and we've done them, two, three four
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  Speaker 3: or five. Times, sure so it kind of lost its,
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  Speaker 3: appeal you. Know eventually it just kind of felt. Repetitive
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  Speaker 3: so we kind of. Shifted, well, actually you, know the
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  Speaker 3: big thing that we noticed was that by going for
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  Speaker 3: maybe like easier, spots because obviously an earth roamer or
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  Speaker 3: an expedition vehicle does not have the same technical terrain
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  Speaker 3: capability as a light, truck although they're pretty. Good you,
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  Speaker 3: know we started doing a lot more national, forests and
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  Speaker 3: we started slowing down a.
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  Speaker 1: Little bit more and you have to slow, down, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you have.
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  Speaker 3: To and it became more about the experience of camping
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  Speaker 3: and if you were in a place.
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  Speaker 1: That didn't have an amazing, view.
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  Speaker 3: You didn't have to do the rocky trail that went
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  Speaker 3: to the promontory point with the amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Lookout.
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  Speaker 3: One we realized that that's what everybody else was doing
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  Speaker 3: with this whole explosion in, overlanding and we're spending a
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  Speaker 3: lot more time in national forests and national. Parks you,
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  Speaker 3: know sometimes we use it just like it was AN,
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  Speaker 3: rv AND i think that's really where WHERE i see
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  Speaker 3: the expedition vehicle space growing as it is this amalgamation
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  Speaker 3: of overlanding as maybe it's perceived in THE us the
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  Speaker 3: forerunner with the roof tent or the truck camp or
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  Speaker 3: something mixed with a bit of THE rv, world because
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  Speaker 3: you kind of have to have solutions and problems from.
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  Speaker 1: Both we love, it, like we just absolutely love. It,
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  Speaker 1: yeah and you get out in it a, Lot you
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  Speaker 1: use it a. Lot in, fact there's been many Times
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  Speaker 1: i've come over to your house and we hung out
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  Speaker 1: in the Earth roamer in your. Garage it's it's like
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  Speaker 1: a cool little. Spot. One it's amazing to have a
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  Speaker 1: garage that your Earth roamer fits inside. Of. Two it
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  Speaker 1: serves this multipurpose of it's My you, know everybody wants
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  Speaker 1: you were you. Retired you're like a retired person at,
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  Speaker 1: Thirty like you bought the retired person's house that has
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  Speaker 1: like the room for the class a over home and it's.
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  Speaker 1: Perfect it's like.
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  Speaker 3: It all, works you. Know to touch on. That by
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  Speaker 3: basing ourselves In, prescott it allowed us to do. This,
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  Speaker 3: yeah we were if our business was based In Southern,
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  Speaker 3: california like like so many uh you, know businesses are
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  Speaker 3: our house would be four times the. Cost that's where
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  Speaker 3: the money for the Earth roamer came. From you, know
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  Speaker 3: we really look at the Earth roamer as our. Cabin,
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  Speaker 3: yeah you, know we go out with family in, it
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  Speaker 3: we go out with friends in.
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  Speaker 1: It you get to go To greyhound events in.
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  Speaker 2: It, yeah it's, awesome like you, know you get to
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  Speaker 2: be the star of the.
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  Speaker 3: Show, yeah it's you, know and it's also really nice
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  Speaker 3: for traveling with with. Dog ours is you, know four door,
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  Speaker 3: Lts so it's lts just means stretch. Essentially so, again
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  Speaker 3: we're able to go out with our friends that have
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  Speaker 3: toy haulers or travel trailers and we're as much a
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  Speaker 3: part of that group as we are able to go
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  Speaker 3: out with friends and roof tents or truck. Camper, sure you,
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  Speaker 3: know we can kind of go either way with, it
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  Speaker 3: and we did that recently within the last couple. Months
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  Speaker 3: we did that trip To Alamo lake AND i was
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  Speaker 3: towing A patriot camper kind of raptor r and we
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  Speaker 3: took a backcountry route to get, there and you went
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  Speaker 3: every single place that we.
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  Speaker 2: Went it was fun.
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  Speaker 1: And that was my experience With maybe let's back up
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  Speaker 1: for a, minute AND i think it would be good
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  Speaker 1: for the audience for us to define what we mean
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  Speaker 1: by an expedition, vehicle which a lot of times that
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  Speaker 1: term is interchangeable with expedition. Camper maybe you can kind
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  Speaker 1: of share what you believe is like what defines an
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  Speaker 1: expedition vehicle as opposed to overland.
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  Speaker 3: Truck, bluntly it's more you could think of it as
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  Speaker 3: AN rv that, is you, know capable of extended off road.
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  Speaker 3: Travel you, know A CLASS c motor home might be
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  Speaker 3: able to go down the dirt road a little bit
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  Speaker 3: in court site to find you, know the. Campsite it's
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  Speaker 3: not something that you're going to want to do with
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  Speaker 3: that vehicle because long term it will compromise the.
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  Speaker 1: Vehicle. Right so there's and all the systems that you
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  Speaker 1: have on expedition campers are much more robust and bigger capacity,
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  Speaker 1: batteries more water on.
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  Speaker 3: Board, yeah so there's, essentially you, know there's self contained
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  Speaker 3: vehicles THAT i think one of the biggest qualifications is live.
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  Speaker 3: Inside they don't have to be hard. Sided you, Know
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  Speaker 3: earth cruisers some of The Ross monster, stuff which is
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  Speaker 3: awesome and are. Definitely expedition vehicles are pop. Tops you,
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  Speaker 3: know they often have a, bathroom a, shower some cooking facilities.
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  Speaker 3: Inside The nimble vehicles are pop Top nimble vehicles or pop. Tops,
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  Speaker 3: yes you, know so it is, this AS i said,
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  Speaker 3: earlier kind of this amalgamation OF i, mean it's basically
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  Speaker 3: just an off ROAD rv when when you really really
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  Speaker 3: get down to, it that's the best way to describe.
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  Speaker 1: It, yeah off road recreational. Vehicle that makes.
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  Speaker 3: Sense there's also an element AND i guess you, know
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  Speaker 3: you go from boats to, yachts and part of that
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  Speaker 3: jump is the, quality you, know the, quality the, components
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  Speaker 3: the longevity of. It you DEFINITELY i think that that's
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  Speaker 3: part of an expedition.
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  Speaker 1: Vehicle, yeah and it's not a yacht unless it's got
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  Speaker 1: a bathroom and a. Galley and it's the same thing
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  Speaker 1: with these. Vehicles once you go to kind of an
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  Speaker 1: expedition camp or expedition, vehicle it's going to have a
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  Speaker 1: fully integrated, kitchen it's going to have a fully integrated.
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  Speaker 3: Bath so like an expedition camper for me is like
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  Speaker 3: the At overland a. Terra, sure it's not that it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't fulfill the same role as an expedition. Vehicle but you,
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  Speaker 3: know like they have some bathroom, facilities BUT i think
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  Speaker 3: they use like a wrap on. Style, yeah you, know
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  Speaker 3: one of those toilets and you know there'll be a.
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  Speaker 3: Shower maybe there's not a shower.
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  Speaker 1: Room you.
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  Speaker 3: Know and it's not to disparage, it it's just but you,
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  Speaker 3: know there's a difference between the, two both in, functionality
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  Speaker 3: BUT i guess at the end of the day also in.
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  Speaker 3: Cost and you, know it is different than a truck,
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  Speaker 3: camper a truck camper on the back of AN aav,
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  Speaker 3: whatever like that's a great, solution but it's not really
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  Speaker 3: an expedition. Vehicle LIKE i think we're. Talking another defining
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  Speaker 3: characteristic of an expedition vehicle is something that it's an integrated.
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  Speaker 3: SYSTEM i, MEAN i always call them integrated. Vehicles and
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  Speaker 3: that's not a removable camper rip that was always the
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  Speaker 3: expedition portal forum heading was integrated overland vehicles or integrated
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  Speaker 3: exhibition vehicles or.
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  Speaker 2: Something they're kind of all in.
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  Speaker 3: One now that does have its downsides that you, know
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  Speaker 3: Eventually i'll have enough miles on the chassis that you,
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  Speaker 3: KNOW i can't take my the, camper which is really
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  Speaker 3: then the value and put it on another. Truck that's
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  Speaker 3: the argument for like the A.
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  Speaker 1: Terra, sure for, example it can be removed and now
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  Speaker 1: you got a flatbed pickup that you can use for other.
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  Speaker 1: Things yeah for.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah you, know the thing THAT i do recognize with
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  Speaker 3: a lot of these vehicles is particularly when you get
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  Speaker 3: to like The unicats and you know some of The
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  Speaker 3: Action mobiles and The Bliss. Mobiles you know they're on truck.
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  Speaker 3: Chassis those things are measured in a, lifespan often in the. Millions,
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  Speaker 3: yeah even with THE f five point, fifty that is
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  Speaker 3: the basis of my, vehicle you, know well. Maintained that
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  Speaker 3: is a half a million mile truck if you want.
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  Speaker 3: It you, KNOW i like it because it's A at
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  Speaker 3: the end of the, day it's A ford, truck and
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  Speaker 3: you can.
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  Speaker 1: Go into Any ford dealership here in THE. Us, YEAH i,
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  Speaker 1: mean you know. SERVICE i had an interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Experience the Earth roamer uses engine coolant to heat the
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  Speaker 3: hot water tank that's in the back of the, vehicle
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  Speaker 3: and there's coolant lines that run down the. Frame two
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  Speaker 3: hours after buying, mine not really being familiar with the,
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  Speaker 3: truck one of those burst happened going through The Eisenhower,
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  Speaker 3: tunnel so it just cooked them. Otor vehicle made it
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  Speaker 3: home after we realized what was going on at the
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  Speaker 3: bottom of the. Hill you, know there's no alarms that went.
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  Speaker 3: Off the coolant didn't even overheat because it was at
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  Speaker 3: night and twenty degrees or. Whatever BUT i was able
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  Speaker 3: to take it to The ford dealer and press. It
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  Speaker 3: they put a new motor in. It, yes it was,
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  Speaker 3: expensive did a lot of upgrades and it was about
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  Speaker 3: ten percent of WHAT i paid for the, vehicle but
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  Speaker 3: it was able to be. Done, yeah you, know so
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  Speaker 3: you can kind of look at these things as if
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  Speaker 3: you're servicing them. Properly who knows really what the lifespan
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  Speaker 3: of the machine. Is you're not daily driving it as,
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  Speaker 3: well you, know with an exhibsion. Camper maybe you're using
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  Speaker 3: it as you're daily driving. Pickup, well then you're putting you,
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  Speaker 3: know wear and tear on all this expensive, stuff and
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  Speaker 3: it accelerates the wear of the, thing which necessitates the
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  Speaker 3: fact that it has to get swapped.
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  Speaker 1: Out, obviously there's different budgets and different. Realities THAT'S i
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  Speaker 1: like that definition, Though is it's an off ROAD. Rv,
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  Speaker 1: yeah that is fully integrated with the, chassis and it's
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  Speaker 1: designed for prolonged remote.
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  Speaker 3: Travel, yeah LIKE i can, do you, Know El camino
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  Speaker 3: Del diablo every day of the.
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  Speaker 1: Week absolutely an expedition.
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  Speaker 3: Vehicle could you take a Rental CLASS c motor home down?
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  Speaker 2: IT i mean Maybe.
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  Speaker 1: I've done that. Road there's not for very. Far you're
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  Speaker 1: Not you're not gonna want to own that thing at the. End,
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  Speaker 1: Yeah and it actually. Is it's a fairly challenging. Travel
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  Speaker 1: one of not the very last time THAT i did,
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  Speaker 1: it but the time. Before mike mcmaud was with, us
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  Speaker 1: And Dave northstrom was with, us and some other folks
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  Speaker 1: that had Earth, romers and some of them had sprinter
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  Speaker 1: vans and other different. Vehicles but we got the Earth
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  Speaker 1: romers through all of it no. Problem and actually even
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  Speaker 1: BEFORE i started the, MAGAZINE i worked with Earth romer
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  Speaker 1: AND i led a lot of their, trips AND i
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  Speaker 1: did a dozen, adventures including Down baja and everything else
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  Speaker 1: with Earth, romers AND i was consistently shocked at where
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  Speaker 1: they could. Go the limitation really with these expedition vehicles
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  Speaker 1: is the. Height when you get into forested, areas you
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  Speaker 1: really got to make sure you're on major forest, roads
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  Speaker 1: so you're going to be looking at a road that's
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  Speaker 1: like two digits as opposed to four. Digits like if
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  Speaker 1: you SEE fr seventy, two you're probably golden in your expedition.
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  Speaker 1: Vehicle if you're going DOWN fr three, six seven nine or.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever b you, know the more numbers that you, GOT
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  Speaker 1: i do actually know. That, Yeah so that's a really you.
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  Speaker 1: Learn it's a quick.
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  Speaker 3: Tip so in that, regard we do a lot of you,
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  Speaker 3: know three digit for service. ROADS i like to think
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  Speaker 3: that with one of these vehicles you, are you can
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  Speaker 3: go pretty, fast particularly with The. Roamer it's got a
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  Speaker 3: four link in the back air suspension all way around
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  Speaker 3: with king, shocks it's pretty. Capable your pots of pans
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  Speaker 3: are still, rattling you, know you're it's got a pass.
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  Speaker 3: Through you can hear, everything everything that you are carrying.
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  Speaker 3: With you have to also put that in, Mind like you,
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  Speaker 3: KNOW i always, say like you see these vans that
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  Speaker 3: have all these desert racing lights on the on the,
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  Speaker 3: top And i'm, Like, okay that's, cool but your thing
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  Speaker 3: can go twenty five mile an hour off road lest
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  Speaker 3: you get hit in the back.
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  Speaker 2: Of the head by a.
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  Speaker 1: Pan that's right.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly you, know like there's there are inherent limits of
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  Speaker 3: taking a small house down a four wheel drive, trail you.
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  Speaker 3: KNOW i MEAN i Think Bill swale's who founded Earth,
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  Speaker 3: romer you, know an unfortunately passed a little bit, ago
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  Speaker 3: said that he had to design a house that was
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  Speaker 3: capable of withithstanding constant.
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  Speaker 2: Earthquakes, yeah so all of your systems have to be very.
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  Speaker 3: Robust, SURE i have the bias towards the Earth romer
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  Speaker 3: because it's WHAT i, Know but there's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: options out there, well.
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  Speaker 1: And it might be, Good it might be good to
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  Speaker 1: kind of talk through first of, all before we go
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  Speaker 1: into the individual. Models is you brought up a good
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  Speaker 1: point earlier before we started talking of serialized expedition vehicles
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  Speaker 1: and customized expedition, Vehicles AND i think that that is
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  Speaker 1: a really important foundational discussion. Point is so an example
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  Speaker 1: of a serialized expedition vehicle is the Earth. Roamer, yes
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  Speaker 1: it is the Earth. Cruiser it is an adventure truck FROM. Gxv,
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  Speaker 1: yes it would be like some of the more Recent adrenaline.
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  Speaker 1: Campers and there's, more we're not trying to exclude anybody with.
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  Speaker 1: That we could spend the entire.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: And there's, podcasts buses and minuses to. Both by having
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: a consistent layout that maybe has a few available changes
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: for dynet versus, couch couch versus, whatever you got to
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: think about the wiring harness that goes into, These, LIKE
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: i think.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: A lot of standardize.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: Them, YEAH i think a lot of the problems THAT
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: i see with some of these expedition vehicles when they're
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: custom or they're a new. Business it's like kind of
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: looking up the, skirts looking at the electrical. SYSTEMS i
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: can display the electrical system in The Earth roamer to
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: an electrical engineer and they're, like, wow that's really. NICE
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: i won't name, names but you know there's some out
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: there That i've seen Where i'm, like, Wow like you've
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: got like twelve positive wires crossed over each, other and
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: all that stuff.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Rattles and moves and, wears And i'm.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Like when you're asking for all of these these custom
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: modifications and you want the camper with the rooftop party
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: deck and the twelve other weird custom things that you,
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: want that all comes as a compromise and it can't
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: be engineered as a.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: System you.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Know it's like comparing a hot rod to A gt
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: five hundred that comes off the line For. Ford sure
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: one is engineered and consistent and has components and if
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: there's a failure they can then fix that on the
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: line and make those. Changes where you, know with hot,
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: rods you have the guy down the street that builds
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: hot rods and you Have Demo speed that builds hot
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: rods that is really really good and it's a. Craft
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: so that's the thing that you get a big. Range
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: you have to really understand that there's. Differences there are
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: the things THAT i would like differently in my, layout for,
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Sure BUT i also know THAT i can call somebody
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: and SAY i HAVE er one oh, seven what is
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: the heater in my truck and there's actually, like, okay,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: cool we'll send me the parts for.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: That or you have something that stops working and you
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: get Earth romer on the phone and you tell me
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: HAVE er one oh, seven and he's going to, Say,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: okay you're going to open up the bath room. Cabinet
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: there's going to be four screws they're going to hold
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: this panel in. Place you're going to take those four screws. Out,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Okay you're going to see the yellow and the green
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: and the blue. Wire, okay you cut the. Blue, Yeah
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: but there's a huge advantage to that because it because
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: it is. Serialized and it's the same thing With earth.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Cruisers WHEN i borrowed An Earth, CRUISER i had a
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: minor issue AND i was able to call them up
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: and they're, like no. Problem they knew exactly where the relay,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: was they knew exactly where the switch. Was they and
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: they were able to provide us with immediate. Support the
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: upside of the custom stuff is you get exactly what
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: you think you. Want BUT i want to talk about
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: that for a, second BECAUSE i think the problem is
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: is that people who buy custom expedition vehicles they have
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: never owned one. Before in most, cases they have rarely
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: had like a sphere of, experience so they had kind
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: of have it in their mind That, okay we want,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: that we want this alley or this galley, style and
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: we want this giant, bathroom and we want this, one
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: we want that and everything, else and then they end
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: up with this very unlivable space because it's got so
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: much stuff packed into, it and it comes because they
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: lack that experience or they want to integrate all of
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: this fancy new technology that hasn't been proven, yet and
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: they're going to say, yes this custom expedition vehicle companies
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: going mind, like, yep it's like one point two million,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: bucks here's your. Camper the reality is is that the
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: closer you can get to just like in think of
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: a land, cruiser they make millions of, them and they
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: make them very. Well the closer that you can get
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: to serialized, production the more reliable it will, be the
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: better serviceability you'll, have the better chance you'll be able
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: to get it fixed in the. Field if you've got
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: to fly in a technician From Earth roamer or From Earth,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: cruiser they're going to know what to, bring they're going
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: to know how to fix, it and your downtime is
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: going to be. Limited whereas the number of catastrophic failures
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: That i've seen with custom expedition vehicles like frames and
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: these bodies breaking body mounts you're.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: DOING i, mean even at everything's a wonder, level everything's
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: a one, off there's no. Repetition it's it's silly to
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: not you, know Like lance that owns and Runs Earth
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: cruiser in THE. Us he is a smart guy but
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: also one of the most well traveled people I've i've
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: met in the.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Industry, yeah for.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Sure he puts he puts His Earth cruiser on a
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: boat and he's gone for. YE i mean he's just
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: he's gone for a. While but it's that experience that
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: then gets integrated into the vehicles that makes them so.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Good LIKE i want to make SURE i Give Earth
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: cruisers some love because WHILE i, love, love love My Earth,
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: rummer IF i was to undertake serious travel LIKE i
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: was GONNA i don't know When i'm coming, back And
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: i'm going to drive around the, WORLD i would do
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: it in An Earth.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Cruiser, yeah put it in a. Container, yeah they fit in.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Containers even if you don't get THE fx THAT i
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: don't know if those. CAN i think you can put
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: different wheels on. Them THE fx has a solid, side
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: WHICH i think is really. Cool and if, not, yeah
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: they're the right, size a little less intimidating in the,
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: vehicle like when you see An Earth, roamer LIKE i have,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: to you, know figure an extra ten minutes to get
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: gas If i'm in.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: A, rush because it's all these people that.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Come over and first question how much that thing, Costs
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: And i'm, like, OH i don't want to answer IT
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: i don't want to answer. It with the Earth, cruisers
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: they're a little bit more low. Key they fit in
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: a regular parking, spot they. Do The Earth roamers can
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: fit in a parking spot if you have a room
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: to back, up and they're pretty maneuverable with the high
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: steer axle that the wide track axle or whatever it's.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Called but The Earth cruisers are this, fantastic you, know well, proven.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: And they don't look even though they are not, inexpensive
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: they do not. Look they look like a kind of
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: a bread delivery. Van but you either love or. Hate
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: BUT i think it's an advantage while you're. Traveling, YES
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: i think it's an advantage to be in this, white
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: nondescript looks like a delivery, vehicle and in, fact in
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: most countries a fuso is the delivery. Vehicle so if
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: you think about the, roads the parking, spaces the turns
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: like they've got to move goods and services around all
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: these small towns and that's what they use is vehicles that.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Size, yeah you, know there's all these different you, know
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: layers of the onion.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Text and the fact that it's cab over so you.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Up but you either like or you, don't LIKE i
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: have to, say, like, well the ride quality goes, down
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: but then maneuverability goes way. Up, yes so there's like
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: everything gets a cop. Compromise.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah so, Yeah like, Personally i'm not a big cab over,
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: guy you, know so that L mt. Vs the man
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: trucks like things like. UMGS i just like driving a pickup. Truck,
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: sure it's it's it's what you drive every. Day it's
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: very natural for. Me my exhibition vehicle is no wider
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: than A. Duly in, fact it's actually narrower than a Modern,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: duly so probably, marginally, yeah.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah not that. Much but it is a couple just
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: on either?
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Way eight point eight foot six inches? Wide is? It
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: how wide your? Is? Yeah pretty.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: WIDE i just know that how much from the, cab
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: how much it sticks? OUT i know that you, know
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: A duly sticks out. More, yeah, sure because that has
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: this single rear wheel. Conversion you, know there's there's a
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: lot of things that go into, it and then you,
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: KNOW i think one of the things we need to
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: talk about for the essentials is the consequences of taking
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: a very heavy, vehicle very remote with a lot of
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: systems become a lot. Higher you, KNOW i would, never for,
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: example carry a starter in my Old gladiator in my
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: jeep because if it broke, down my buddy can throw
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: a strap on the front and we can tow it
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: somewhere to where a tow truck can get it to or.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Whatever the thing that we learned really quickly when we
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: had this this major problem with our truck right after getting,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: it was oh, Crap, like if this thing breaks down
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: on the side of the, road it requires like like
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: the same you know wrecker to come get you that
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: would get a semi. Truck, now if you're on the,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: highway those things are all. Over if you're down for
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: a forest road with four letters on, it you if
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: it's something that you're not capable of, fixing you are
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: bringing somebody. In so we for, example every electronic sensor
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: that's on the engine that could create a no start
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: or no run, condition we carry. Those it was just
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: it was like eight hundred bucks and. Sensors but IF
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: i don't have them AND i need, them what is
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: that going to cost? Me sure we carry a, starter you,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: know we CARRY i continue to run THE dpf system on.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Mine you, KNOW i always, say, like IF i have
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: the luxury of owning an earth room WHERE i can
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: afford to fix and service THE dpf BECAUSE i like
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: enjoying nature AND i don't want. To, yeah we never
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: want to reute unnecessarily also illegal to take that, off
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: but some people.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Will we just are traveling, international you could take it.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Off we decided we carry THE i think it's like
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: the temperature sensors or something that are known to. Fail
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: while they were like twenty, BUCKS i have like five of,
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: them you, know carrying with. You some of those components
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: generally related to the, chassis like if you run out
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: of heat or YOUR ac stops working or something that's not,
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: catastrophic so you have to plan for. Those i'm going
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: to call them catastrophic, events like obviously if the engine goes,
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: poof there's really nothing that you can.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Do sure.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: That but with most modern, vehicles the core of them
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: are pretty. Reliable like they've made millions Of ford sixty seven.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Engines sure we know exactly what the problems are and
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: what The.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: And you bulletproofed, yours AS i, remember did a version of.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: THAT i have some parts from bulletproof on, there so
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: LIKE i did the BULLETPROOF egr it's not really needed
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: on the six, seven to be. Honest that was more
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: of like a six to zero. Thing where as these
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: emission control systems were starting to come out of the,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: market there was growing.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Pains for.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Sure the six to seven doesn't have many you know
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: that motor is still in, production but there were things
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: that we did for. Reliability we did different exhaust manifolds
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: because everything was. Out we did a different, turbo not
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: necessarily a performance, turbo though it does flow slightly. More
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: when my motor went, poof the proof took out the
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: it's oil, cool so you don't then know what gets
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: into that, turbo so you have to replace. It like
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: The ford turbos for the early six sevens are known
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: to have some, Issues board's pretty good at revising. Parts
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: the basics here That i'm really trying to get at
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: is develop a relationship with a mechanic that knows the
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: chassis that you have and figure out what is. Breaking
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: because if you have an L mtv or you have
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: some the man truck that you are not going to
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: get parts, for you know at The ford dealer down the, street.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: It's probably smart to carry some of that stuff.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: With Now i'm not saying carry a spare transmission because
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: the transmission might. Go you, know those are those are
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: those big things that if they, happen you're just going
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: to have to deal with. It, Yeah and that kind
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: of translates into you, know if you have the, parts
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: you have to you, know you have to have some
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: skill to be able to replace. Them it doesn't mean
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: that you have to do it. Quick it just means
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: that you have to get the job done so you
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: can get.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Out.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Sure so toolkits are going to be different for an
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: expedition vehicle versus a. Jeep you, know you have large suspension,
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Components LIKE i carry a socket for the four link
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: that is A kilderman system on my. Vehicle, WELL i
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: carry the correct sockets and wrenches to be able to service.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: That not That i'm expecting necessarily that a bushing is
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: going to fail or this or, that because, again those
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: are things that you drive slowly to a point that
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: you can get further help because you're not jacking this
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: thing up and doing that in the middle of. Nowhere
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: a bolt might come loose that you need to tighten
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: and you can fix that before it becomes a. Problem
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: so you have to consider both for the, coach you,
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: know the camper, portion the live in, portion and then the.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Vehicle what tools you're going to need to service on modern,
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: vehicles you, know there's you KNOW obed scanners LIKE i carry.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: IT i think it's LIKE Obd link two AND i
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: have this app called four scan and it allows me
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: to have some terrible, NAME i, know it allows me
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: to have some basic functionality that you, know the four
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: diagnostics would have more than AN obd two, reader less
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: than the computer That ford, has you, know things like
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: forcing a region of the diesel particular film for. SURE
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: i want to be able to do that.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: So you can regen it when you want, to not
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: when you're climbing some big hill or.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Whatever, yeah and there's some tuners that give you that.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Functionality LIKE i have a bank's gauge in, mind AND
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: i think that's the best thing THAT i could recommend
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: to any of these trucks because they're they're going to
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: be running towards the higher end of their gross vehicle weight.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Grading, yeah you're Earth rummer weighs nineteen thousand.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Pounds, YEAH i mean it depends on what is in.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: There mine has one hundred and seventeen gallons of fresh. Water,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: yeah that's a, lot you, know that's half a ton of.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Water but you also did a good job recently of
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: you had this extra storage box on the back and
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: a bunch of extra, things and you pulled all that.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: OFF i pulled all that.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Off you have saved hundreds of. Pounds hundreds of.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Pounds AND i also went through and kind of optimized
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: that spares package for me after having the the traumatic
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: event with the engine right after getting, IT i carried
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: a lot of things THAT i didn't, need pairs some
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: of that back based on, experience like IF i and
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: ALSO i kind of make my make things modular, now
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Like i've found that These pelican fifteen fifty, Cases yes
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: they're a little bit, heavier but they they fit in
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: the space really well. Perfect SO i have one that
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: is like you know That i'm building that is my
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: big trip. Kit like If i'm driving to The Arctic ocean,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: again there's things THAT i would take with me that
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: would be, DIFFERENT i. Think or maybe you're going down
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: To baja Or, yeah Or baha or a place where
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: you know serviceability is going to be more of a.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Challenge you, know don't be afraid to kind of segment your. Kit,
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: sure you, KNOW i always carry a belt because that's
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: a no start condition on my.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: TRUCK i carry A i do carry a fuel.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Pump not that they're necessarily known for going, out but
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: if they, do the truck's dead in the, water AND
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: i have decided to allocate the space for.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: That sure to kind of wrap it.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Up carry the tools that you need to service your,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: vehicle likely the, bolt the size of the bolt that
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: holds your control arm on for a jeep and the
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: one that is on a medium or heavy duty truck.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Chassis they're going to be different. Sizes try and work
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: with that kit when you're at home so you have
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: that process of.
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  Speaker 1: i remember there was early on an. Earthromer they had
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• 31:47
  Speaker 1: was In mongolia when there was a problem with the,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: ford either the engine or the turbo or something like,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: that and the only way around it because there was
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: no way to move the vehicle safely from where it was.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: At so he had a just coordinate getting a forward
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: technician all the, parts flying them Into, mongolia probably getting
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: in the land, cruiser driving to the vehicle and doing
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: this major repair to the forward in the middle Of.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Mongolia so that would not have been.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Cheap but you do have to consider that if you
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  Speaker 3: are going to be taking one of these vehicles to
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: very remote, places that that is a, possibility you. Know
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: that's why going with let's maybe transition from this to
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: there's a lot OF diy. Guys, yeah so let's talk
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: about you, know let's use the as an. Example THERE'S i,
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: mean there's so many. Chassis there's THE, lmtv there's the Man.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: CHASS i, mean there's there's a lot out. There and
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: you primarily see this With european travelers because, there's for whatever,
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: reason there's just a lot of very applicable vehicles. There
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: and there's a much larger expedition vehicle.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Scene, yeah go To aventre and. Alread, yeah and it's, Incredible, yeah.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Exactly so look at a unicat in. Person it's just awe.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Inspiring you.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Know so let's just talk about the guy that buys
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: the ex military unimogue and you, know builds their own.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: CAMPER i think that stuff's. Great, like those are the
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: people that totally see. Traveling there's a lot of that out.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: There you, know there's a lot of guys that really
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: do use their earth roamers and their earth cruisers and
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: you know another and other. VEHICLES i feel bad to,
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: keep you, know defaulting to earth roamer and earth, cruiser
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: but they're just in THE.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Us they are the lion's. Share they just.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Have they've been avolunger and they have Big.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah THE diy guys, there you, know they'll get their
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: box From Total composits or box manufacture and they really
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: know these vehicles because they've built, them and there's a
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: huge advantage to knowing the. Systems the downsize is maybe
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: the guy that's installing the heater or the electrical system
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: or whatever it is doing the best that he, can
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: but maybe isn't a professional electrical engineer or. Something, Right,
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: so if you're listening to this and it's, like, oh
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: An earth roamer Or earth cruiser or g X v,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: adrenaline all of these things are not in the financial,
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: budget which is just a.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Reality there are a lot.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Of options for building your, own like quite, affordably like
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: you can you, know affordability is relative to this. Space
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: it is inherently, Expensive like there's no way of getting
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: around the fact that you're going to have to buy
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: very expensive lithium batteries and all of these.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Components but you can you can find A MITSUBC FUSO
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: fg let's call it ten years, old which will be
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: pre def pre all that. Stuff you can find those
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: in the thirty thousand dollars range here in The United,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: states and then you basically you. Build there's Like Total
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: composites out of out Of canada that builds boxes very.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Affordable they're unfinished on the. Inside so now you've got
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: a proven global platform for thirty thousand. Bucks the box
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: is going to cost you less than that, unfinished but
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: it's ready to be bolted onto the chassis. Rails you
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: take the time to do it all, yourself so you
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: know where every wire, is you, know you, know watch
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: you two learn how to set these things up and
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: go with well proven, components put less stuff in the
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: truck than you think you, need and the next thing you,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: know you're off doing it.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Yourself, yeah it's it's very important for me to stress
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: that this is not just a club for guys that
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: are dropping half a million or a million dollars on these.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: VEHICLES i think the heart and soul of the expedition
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: community are THE diy. Guys, YEAH i, mean like, frankly
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: that is WHO i see traveling internationally using these vehicles as.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Intended the most bar none and earth romer leaving THE us,
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: happens but generally generally it is the. Exception there are
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: just so many you, know honestly people my age In
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: europe that are building Their mogs or, whatever or they
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: buy a, chassis modify the. Chassis and this is like
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: where Bliss mobile comes. In AND i think that Bliss
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: mobile is really. Cool is you buy this. Box some
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: really dear friends of, Ours colin And, candy actually bought
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Bliss mobile box and they bought a truck Through Bliss.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Mobile they live In.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Arizona they keep it In europe and they do all
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: these one they do all these cool Bliss.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Mobile trips with other owners and there's good.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Camaraderie but they will be able, to you, know sell
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: that truck, off keep their, box ship it To Bliss.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Mobile in The United states Have Spencer, park put it
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: on A ram or put it on one of the you,
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: know An asella truck or. Something and their big asset
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: is all pretty much self.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Contained it still has their pots and, pans it still
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: has the pots, exact it's got their own stuff and
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: there they just move the box and then you don't have.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: To there's no temporary, import there's no. Carne, yeah you're
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: just bringing the box.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Set there's no there's no emissions regulation. Nothing that Stuff
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: now the thing you have to you do have to
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: notice that there's different. Voltages so with these, campers with
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: these exhibition, vehicles much like AN, rv you have shore,
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: power so you have a one to ten based system
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: like either a thirty or fifty. Amp most of these
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: are thirty, amps and then you're going to you, know
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: higher vulgue. Forty so one of the things That i'm currently,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: researching LIKE i would love to ship ours To iceland
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: and then put it on a ferry and then do
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: The Scandinavian nordic. Countries how DO i charge? It now
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: if you're moving every, day that's not REALLY.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: I think there's actually. Converters there, are but there's not
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of information on.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: That so if anybody's actually figured out a solution for
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: that that's actually reliable and isn't isn'tantic? Gigantic you, know
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: that's interesting, Thing but you know there are these. Options
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: it's actually really cool that bliss mobiles in THE us
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: now be Superre they're very. Reputable they actually AND i
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: want to give a shout out to. Them they have
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: A i want to say it's an eight or a
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: ten foot box that can. Go they're partnering with av
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: to build trucks for this small this new small box.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: SIZE i mean if.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: That imagine that if that was out WHEN i when
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: we bought our Earth, rumer it would be really hard
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: to not have a brand new because, basically the newer
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: chain you can, get the more. Reliable, PERSONALLY i believe
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: that they've. Become the faster they, are the better the
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Breaking they're just nicer inside.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Too a new. VEHICLE i, MEAN i think a lot
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: of people misunderstand that if you have a thirty year
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: old eighty series Land, cruiser which when it was new
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: was one of the most reliable vehicles ever. Made, yeah
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: but a thirty year old eighty series Land cruiser is
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: no more reliable or less reliable than a new Land.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: ROVER i, mean it's just the reality having a new
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: car with new, belts new like all the new, systems
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: it's going to be more. Reliable there's things that than
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: an old.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Car there's a lot of things that you, know and
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: this is maybe again going back to the guys that
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: are looking at doing this from A diy, level is you,
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: know if you find the, unimogue THE, lmtv whatever chassis
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: you are choosing a lot of times these are ex
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: military and there's this, Idea oh, yeah well they're they're well.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Maintained sometimes, yes and sometimes you can find them with
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: shockingly low miles or kilometers on, them but the oil don't.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Care there's a lot of components that will rubber anything.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Rubbers it's time, related not necessarily mileage, related for, Sure
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: so not saying that it's not a good. Idea you
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: can get a lot of bang for your, buck but
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: you have to you then have to prepare for having
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: the rear main seal for an obscure unimogue engine that
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: in The United states we don't.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Get, yeah that's WHY i keep coming back to that MITSUBCFUSO. Fg,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: yeah like ten year.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Old, yeah it's going to be pre Daff they put
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: no Particular they'll put a million miles on those all day,
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: long all day.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Long they're pretty. Good.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah recovery also changes from the kind of recreational four
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: wheel drive side to the expedition vehicle. Side i've got
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: a lot Of max tricks because that's my, gig BUT
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: i carry eight because one of the things That i'm
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: most worried, ABOUT i think If i'm going to get
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: stuck in an expedition. Vehicle i'm probably aware that there's a, risk,
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: sure but the things that you don't think of are
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: it rains overnight you're in a field and that much.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Weight like the roads give.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: Way you, know there was The unimog WHICH i think
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: was A gxv and big bend that you, KNOW i
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: had to have a helicopter come and bring it. Up
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: i'm not going to comment on driver error or anything,
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: there but in fact it is the road gave. Way
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: there was recently an earth roamer that was a big
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: recovery thing that was On.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Instagram road gave.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Way you have to you, know not only in the recovery,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: scary but how you drive.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Them you have to give yourself more. Room you don't
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: want to put your you, know your tire on wet
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: soil on a shelf. Road at the very, end you
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: should have the training to get yourself out of some
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: of these, situations. Right you know a lot of these
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: vehicles will have front and rear. Winches they're only as
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: good as your, training most, likely LIKE i. Have i'm
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: not saying it's the largest winch That warrenant, offers BUT
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: i have a warn sixteen to five on the front
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: of my. Vehicle the chassis is rated for nineteen. Five
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: generally you want fifty percent, more but it's just not really,
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: available SO i have to pulley blocks and knowing how
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: to do those. Things that's WHERE i really like the
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: max track stuff because if you're on unstable, ground you
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: have something that you can winch up onto to at
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: least stabilize the. Situation because if the road gave way,
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: once there's a strong likelihood that it could give way
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: more and. Move you, Know so building a kit that
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: is appropriately sized to the weight of the vehicle and
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: that may that means that the great recovery gear that
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: you've invested in free your. Jeep it's not going to
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: work over.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Here it's. Not and you may want to have another
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: expedition vehicle with. You you may want to travel with a,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: buddy which is why.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: You see technical.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Stuff that's why anytime we really pushed it with the earth,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: rowmers we made sure we had a couple of them,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: along because you, know it doesn't matter how capable wrangler.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Is it weighs one, third like you're just, like you,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: know it's just not going to pull it, out you,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: know you're just going to, be you, know trying to
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: get an elephant to move on a. Leash it's not
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: going to. Work it's not Going, definitely recovery comes to,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: mind and being very. CAUTIOUS i like the idea of
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: someone putting an e bike on the back of their
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Earth romer or Earth, cruiser take your, pick having something
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: like that that becomes your scout. VEHICLE i have used
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: drones a lot with expedition vehicles Where i'm we just got, one,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: yeah Where i'm flying ahead And i'm looking at the.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Terrain is this going to put me along a shelf?
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Road particularly on shelf, ROADS i like to go ahead
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: and make sure, that, OKAY i could this is the
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: next PLACE i can turn, AROUND i come, BACK i
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: drive to that place AND i stop again AND i
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: confirm because and also it gives the chance to run
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: into people coming the other direction and just be, like
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: is there any way you could stop here for about
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: fifteen minutes UNTIL i make it to this clearing so
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: you can come around. Me because if you run into
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: if you're the one that's coming, downhill you should be
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: giving way to whoever's coming, back who's going? Uphill and
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: are you going to back An Earth roamer or An
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Earth cruis or A gxv up a shelf. Road that's,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: very very. Challenging SO i think having a little e
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: bike or having a small dirt.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Bike, yeah or bicycle or whatever that, bicycle whatever turns
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: on and to build on, that recognizing that the consequences
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: are different in the same way that you maybe need
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: to carry some additional spars that you wouldn't in a,
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: jeep your mindset cannot be the same as if you
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: were in a. Jeep you have to adjust your risk
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: level because the consequence has become much, higher much much. Quicker,
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: yeah simple, situation like you're, saying shelf, road somebody's coming
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: down the. Hill you, know you can't just kind of
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: pull up on the bank and let them Buy it's you,
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: know some of these vehicles aren't maybe as wide as people,
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: think you, know LIKE i know on my rown or
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: the mirrors are still the same with as a fourth pickup. Truck,
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: sure and they still stick out. Further sure there is
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: some mental game. There you have to consider those. Things but,
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: again like you, said you get you have to give
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: them some. Room so here now you're getting right up
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: to the edge of the shelf, road which could give
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: way because of the weight of the. VEHICLE a thousand
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: jeeps came through there before that, then and the road
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: never gave way because they didn't weigh eighteen thousand. POUNDS
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: i do think it requires a mindset change to SAY
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: i have my house with.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Me why AM i in a? Rush If i've got
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: my house with. Me, Yep i'm going to take my.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Time i'm going to stage, Here i'm going to verify
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: that the route ahead is. Safe i'm going to use
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: multiple communication devices and navigation tools to make good. Choices
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Anytime i've ever gotten in trouble with an expedition, vehicle
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: it has always been Because i'm, like, oh it'll be.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Fine the one platform THAT i found to be surprisingly
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: nimble and really not an issue was A unicat on A.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Unimog so it was, like at like the four, sixteen
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: isn't that, Right like it's it's the it's kind of
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: the it's not the really Old. Unimog it's not the
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: brand new Unimo, yeah very. Boxis, yeah like late eighties
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: early Nineties. Unimog and it had a fairly Small unicat
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: camper on the back of, it and we were driving
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: it Around Southern, africa and the stuff that we did
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: with that WAS i, mean it was a challenge for
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: the land cruisers that were with. Us this vehicle had
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: no trouble lock all the diffs two hundred to one low.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Range it was incredible, stable portal assholes like it's it's you,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: know it's just.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Bigger BUT i think.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: It was short. Wheelbase it was fairly.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Compact, yeah so That's that's one of the things to
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: recognize is do you have an expectation of doing the
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: same trails that you have historically done in a pickup
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: or a jeep or, whatever like is that are you
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: trying to accomplish the same level of capability but with more.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Comfort that needs to dictate what. Vehicles, yeah for sure
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: you're purchasing yeah for, Sure but most people when they buy,
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: these it's AN rv that is capable of extended dirt road. Travel,
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: yeah you need the larger tires not only to look,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: cool but because you need the load carrying capacity of that.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Tire on earth roamers and earth roamers actually run A unimog.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: Tire it's A CONTINENTAL mpt eighty. One they are the
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: best thing on that. Truck but also the worst. Thing
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: they're ready to sixty eight mile an. Hour if you
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: the truck will do a lot more than sixty. Eight
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: but there's a lot of guys that they're on a
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: stretch of, pavement they're not paying.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Attention all of a sudden they're doing.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Eighty it's one hundred degrees out In texas and the tires.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Shred they blow that what had a. Straw they're, like,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: OH i can't believe.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: This i'm, like OH i can because you're you're at
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: the you're at the the extreme of what that tire
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: can carry in terms of, pressure and then you're exceeding
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: the speed and it's, hot and all.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: These sixty eight miles an, hour you're, right that's that
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: is as fast as you can drive OR throwmr on,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: mpts that's. It.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: YEAH i think with the new there's like a forty
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: THREE mpt that is like a seventy five mile an hour.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: Rating but you, know these tires have to carry you,
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: know you can't have a dual rear tire on the
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: off road vehicle because, rocks, sticks debris gets stuck in the.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: Middle it becomes an. Issue it does very, quickly so
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: you're currently right. Now you, know in the same way
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: that like the limiting factor of a lot of travel
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: trailers and toy haulers was what the vehicles could. Tow you,
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: know they've gotten bigger as the tow. Vehicles sure higher.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Performance you, know the vehicles right now if smart have
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: to be built to the capability of those, tires.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: It's limited by. Them the mpts are really good off.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Road they, handle they don't, chunk they don't they rarely have.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Flats they're, very very. Durable they're heavy duty military tires.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: Keep them within their, range so their range of design
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: because particularly like the new again keep coming back to earth,
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: roamers but the new ltis they're a little, lighter right
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: because the carbon fiber composite, camper but they have more
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: horsepower and they have a ten speed, transmission so they
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: can just chug up stuff and go as fast as
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: you really. Want doesn't mean that you actually can you,
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: again you have to you, know you're driving a medium
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: duty or you, know or a heavy duty commercial. Truck
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: no matter what you're doing in any exhibition, vehicle you
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: are not building an expedition vehicle on AN f one
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: point fifty like there's that one company that has, god
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: what are they Something north that's building like. These technically
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: they're an exhibition. Vehicle they're putting them on AN f one. Fifty,
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: yeah and they have like boat speakers on the.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Back.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah the tires aren't, there you, know the chassis not.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: There you're not building them on AN lt. Truck you're
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: building them on a medium duty or heavy, duties, right
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: and you have to adjust your.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Mindset, yeah and to go off road in technical, terrain
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: particularly if you get into, mud you've got to have these.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Mpts but then you're capped on the. Speed if anybody
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: listening that owns an earthrom or check your speed right
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: now when you're going down the. Road, yeah it's sixty
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: eight miles an hour travel. Sets you just need to slow,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: down go with the same speed as the. Trucks just cruise,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: along get into a slower, speed and just remember if
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: anything goes, wrong if you have a blowout or a
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: cow runs into the, road or always going to be
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: better when you're going, Slower you're going to be way
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: better off having started off going. Slower.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: YEAH i mean a lot of these vehicles have pretty
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: impressive braking. Systems once you're out of clamping pressure and
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: those tires lock. Up, yep your tire. Doesn't at the
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: end of the, day it's the tire that transfers the
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: breaking force to the. Ground once that tire locks, up
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: even with, abs there's still twenty thousand pounds to. Stop you,
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: know in a lot of, ways it's driving like you're
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: towing something really.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Heavy you have to wash the temperatures and then making
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: sure that you put as much weight forward as you.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Can We'll i'll look at some of these vehicles and
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: the back seat area will be completely, empty and then
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: the back of the vehicle is overloaded with all the
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: really heavy.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: STUFF i, mean it's shocking and how many back seats
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: are empty without a greyhound in.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Next but you got to move the weight forward because
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: the rear tire is almost always the wind that blows.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: Up you, know they're a large, vehicle so small changes
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: are hard to. Notice but by taking that rear case,
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: off and that accomplished two. Things, one it was the
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: weight to the case THAT i, removed and then, TWO
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: i moved things, forward probably removed things all. TOGETHER i
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: removed things all, together BUT i also MOVED i shifted
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: that weight forward close to the, axle so you've got
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: less of that pendulum effect on the back. End it's
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: much better off, road it's. Easier you do notice five
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: hundred pounds and your overall length is. Less let's talk
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: about actually the campers for a. Second, okay you've kind
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: of got to be aware that things are going to
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: break inside of these. Campers LIKE i carry extra. Latches you,
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: know if you've got a bunch of pots and pans and,
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: something you, know some of these campers will have like
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: little magnetic latches that reinforce things you need to carry.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: LATCHES i carry a small thing of wood screws because you,
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: know WHEN i first got it and we were maybe
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: using it more off road than, most although Actually kevin
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: who and mine did use.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: It off road quite a. Bit latches would.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: BREAK i have kind of like a small i'm going
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: to call it like coach kit that stays in the
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: camper and it fixes things that are going to be problems.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: Inside you, know so you do have to consider, That
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: LIKE i keep my truck stuff, OUTSIDE i keep.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: My small little camper kit. Inside being careful about how
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: much weight you put on the fridge. Door that's a
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: thing that a lot of people don't think. About don't
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: overload this spice cabinet with wine. Bottles it's meant for,
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: spice lightweight or else those things. Fail the other THING
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: i noticed is that people will leave their water pumps
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: on while they're traveling on dirt, roads which results in
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: cavitation of the, pump oftentimes because of the. Vibration so
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: shut those. Things shut those things off when you're going
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: down the. Road make sure give it a walk around
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: outside and, in because it's shocking the number of times
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: that people will pull away and the blackwater drain hose
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: is still, connected or the charging ever or the charging,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: hose or they set their coffee cup on the back
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: bumper or whatever because they were in. Camp give the
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: vehicle a complete walk around on the outside and then on.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Inside pull on every, cabinet make sure everything's closed and.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: Latch developing that kind of pre, drive, yes, checklist you
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: got to do it every. TIME i don't have a.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: Notepad i'm making SOME i don't think you need to
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: just walk around look on that kind of, preparation and
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: it's always you know your vehicle is going to tell you.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: Things on commercial, trucks wheel bearings are more of a.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: Thing so hub.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: Temperature so WHEN i start my, checks WHEN i get
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: out of the, vehicle every TIME i get fuel OR i,
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: STOP i put my, tire my hand on the, tire
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: AND i put my hand near the hub because if
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: that wheelbaring is, going it's going to be creating a
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: lot of. Heat check you check things like that before we,
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: leave for you, know whether we just had, lunch, WHATEVER
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: i go AND i verify every latch is, closed because
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: if you're gonna you, know it sounds so, trivial but
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: if you, are you stop for lunch and you're on
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: an extended off road trail or, whatever and you break
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: a latch and you don't have a, replacement like you,
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: either the solution is that you then take the drawer,
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: out put it on your bed or, something because otherwise
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: it's just gonna sit. There that's how they really, break
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: as people forget to latch them.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Or then they slam. CLOSED i was on one trip
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: and their overhead cabinet wasn't, latched AND i can't remember
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: what it. Was some kind of a potter pan came
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: out and it landed squarely on the induction cook top
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: and then just stroy glass everywhere it had. Glass there
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: was glass everywhere inside and it destroyed the induction cook,
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: tops so they had no way way to, cook no
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: way to cook if you just take an extra couple
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: minutes to give it a Very, now we should be
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: doing that with every. Vehicle, Yeah and you, KNOW i
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: have a daily and a weekly check sheet THAT i
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: do on every, trip but it's even more important with
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: these campers because you're literally going down the road with
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: your house on the. Back AND i mean some of
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: these things actually have a washing, machine WHICH i thought was.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: Ridiculous and you know till you live on the, road
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: until you live on the, road and you're, like oh,
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: MAN i just spent like two hours trying to find
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: a place to. Launch and cooking is a big thing.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: Too you're no longer in the realm of little buttane.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: Stoves you can bring, more which means you can prepare
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: more extravagant or healthy meals or healthy meals like it sounds.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: Silly we almost exclusively cook in our instant. Pot now
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: it's a one. POT i do the dishes and Then
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: laura cooks because she's a great, cook a wonderful. Cook
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: but that's one less thing for me to, clean which you,
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: know not every one of these vehicles has huge water
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: storage or you may be trying to con irv, Water
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: like when we take it down To, baja.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: We're a little bit. Less you.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: Know we generally try and run on the water that
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: we have because we know it comes from our house
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: and the unfortunate reality of traveling in some places is
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: that the water isn't always or it's.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Hard to get to a hard to get water purified water. Station, yeah.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: Exactly so you, know it's it's less to, clean it's
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: it's all you, know self. Contained it uses actually very
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: little energy once it heats, up it's just cooking on.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: Pressure we're even thinking about bringing like a little air.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: Fryer we we don't use the like. That we have
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: a diesel burner and we have like a microwave convection sure.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: Thing we have like never used those things because these you,
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: know there's so many like one pot meals that you
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: can do in an instant pot.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: And then you can Make french fries or. Whatever, yeah
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: you can do it air the cookies in the air.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: Fryer we use it at home a.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: Lot, yeah, sure you, Know laura has even made kind
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: of like a little cookbook for earth romer, recipes and
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: it simplifies trying to figure out what you're. DOING i,
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: Mean i'm sure most people can relate to, this but
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: you're going out, camping whether it's your, buddies your, family or,
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: whatever and you know how to grocery shop for, home,
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: sure but then you don't know how to grocery shop for.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: Camping so having repeatability with the things that you're making
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: or one of twenty to choose, from, cool this is
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: WHAT i need for my. List that has been huge for. Us,
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: yeah it's removed a pain point of travel because you're
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: going to grocery stores that you're not familiar with.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: Whatever, yeah so that's great. Advice on the interior, layout
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: just making it as open and spacious and simple as
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: possible is a great. IDEA i would never want to
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: have an expedition vehicle that didn't have a shower and a. Toilet,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: otherwise what's the POINT.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: I see some that.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: Don't or one of my beefs with the well on
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: any pop top is that when you're, traveling assuming you're
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: traveling with somebody for a, while and you have to
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: use the bathroom to do a number, Two like you
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: don't want to be sitting under this half.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Wall like that's that's one of the reasons WHY i
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: like hard.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: SIDE i went some. Privacy, yeah IF.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: I have to go drop, one like even if you're
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: married to that, person like you don't want to be
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: making eye contact while.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: You're doing, it you.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Know, so uh, yeah that's a good point, THOUGH i,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: mean and it's really it depends on the. Person, yeah some,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: couples you, know maybe they hold hands while they do,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: that who. Knows but you just like for, everybody everybody
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: has different, needs and it's being really honest about what you.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Need and if one of your goals is to get
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: to remote technical, places you're gonna end up with a
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: you should get a much smaller. Camper, yeah if you
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: just really want an all wheel DRIVE, rv then get something,
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: big because you might as well have the washing machine in,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: there you, know if you can afford. IT i, mean,
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: really it's BEING i think honest about what you want because,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: unfortunately a lot of these expedition vehicles decisions are made
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: around how it reflects the ego as opposed to how
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: it reflects the traveler's. Needs your ego is going to
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: get a bump no matter. What so just let that
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: part of it go because you're going to be driving
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: something super, cool matter.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: What, version pretty.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: Cool they're all super, cool so no matter what version you.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Get the problem is is like spending two million dollars
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: on a, camper like no one, knows no one can
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: even relate to. That it's really about buying what you
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: need that really meets your.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: NEEDS i you, KNOW i don't want to like disparage
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: a company or, anything but like a lot of the
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: LIKE gxv guys that do these very extravagant, builds they're
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: at over an expo and then they're just off into the,
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: ether like you never hear of or see these people
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: traveling BECAUSE i think they're obviously very. Expensive SO i
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: always correlate the ability to afford something with probably being you,
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: know fairly, busy and it's like it's this. Project it's
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: like they're building their. Boat but then they REALIZE i
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: didn't really need the party deck on top of my.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: Camper that's the worst place to put weight on one
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: of these. Vehicles spend some time in, one you. Know,
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: unfortunately it's really hard to rent these BECAUSE i get
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: people that ask, me will you rent your earth rom
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: or for a week or.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Whatever i'm, like, absolutely not a number that.
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: Works if you just get somebody that doesn't know what
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: they're doing and they're going up a hill and they
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: just have the, thing you, know pegged going up a large, grade.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: You could blow the motor on it for.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: Sure you, know they don't latch the latches because that's you,
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: know it's just. New i'm not saying it's, negligence but
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: they just don't. Know and then, oh, well you, know
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: you gotta get a woodworker. In, yeah so it's it's
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: hard to. Know but but GENERALLY i think go with
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: the smallest camper and the least amount of stuff that
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: keeps you, comfortable like being able to be inside of
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: something that, is you, know kind of climate. Controlled that
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: is the. Luxury you don't need the Rare grecian marble.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Backsplash, yeah you really.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: Don't you don't need the whatever some of these extravagant things.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Are and really consider.
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: This people that want bathtub And i'm, like it takes
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: a one hundred gallons of water to do a.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: Bath public buy a CLASS A, yeah, true it's so.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: True and then being a campsite where you're plugged in
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: the city water and you can have all the things you. Want,
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: yeah AND i think there's a lot of importance around
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: if you have the resources getting serialized, unit because you're
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: going to end up with a better, experience better, serviceability better.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Reliability but you're also going to gain back a bunch of.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: TIME a good friend of mine built a custom expedition.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Camper he was not resource, constrained but he decided he
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: wanted to do it his, way and it took him
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: almost two years to build the. Vehicle AND i asked
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: him what of any regrets that he. Had he, said
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: my number one regret is THAT i didn't just buy
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: an Earth romer and. Leave, yeah and so fill in
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: their Earth cruiser and Leave adrenaline camper and leave buy
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: something that is a serialized unit that has a high
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: degree of reliability that's been well, proven and then, go
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: we only have so much. Time. Yeah it was his
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: number one regret is that he got exactly the vehicle
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: that he wanted with all of the, gadgets all of
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: the custom bumpers and suspension and all that other. Stuff
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: but he, said he, SAID i lost two years of
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: experiences and.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: You can you can try and optimize as much as you,
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: want but the realities at hotels. Exist, yeah like if
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: you you, know rather than get some that's like massive,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: Massive LIKE i don't think they're making.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: That earth roam ER hd.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: ANYMORE i think it was just too. Big it's too,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: big too much.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Stuff it's just you, know like if you need if
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: you need the washer and dryer or this or, this
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: you have the coin to drop a million two million
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: dollars on. Something, presumably then you have the coin to
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: just stay a nice hotel and say, dry, clean this or.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: Whatever LIKE i know that's not like the ethos of
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: traveling and what we like to, promote but there's nothing
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: wrong with.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: That you still stay in if you're after absolute. Comfort
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: at least once a week we stay in a hotel
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: when we're doing extended travels because living in a small
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: box with another person is still like living in a
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: small box with another. Person LIKE i want to go
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: have a drink at the, hotel despite.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: What the back splash is made out.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: Of, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly be, realistic you, know try
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: and get something that's as. Small the earth roamers THAT
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: i always look at with envy are the they have
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: like the suicide door on the.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Back they're the extended. Cab the extended cab that are THE.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: LTS i always look at those with a lot of,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: envy but Then i'm, Like, okay like that would be
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: great for like more off, Road LIKE i would love
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: to drive under those To South.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: America they'll make them.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: Anymore in, REALITY i need the full back seat for the. Dog,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: sure and there's three of us in this space that
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: from the outside looks really, big but on the inside
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: isn't actually that. Huge and it was worth it to
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: have the two Feet So i'm really happy with.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: That could you are? Happy and, like look at how
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: long you've kept the. Vehicle it's literally met all of your.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Needs AND i think that that's the, key is you.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Bought there's a reason why they sell so Many Earth
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: roamers is because they are kind of. Dialed it's the
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: same reason why they sell so Many Earth. Cruisers the
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: DIAL i lived in. ONE i lived in one for
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: weeks and weeks and, weeks AND i loved. It, YEAH
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: i absolutely loved.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: It they're really, good and you know there are you,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: know these things are very. Expensive there's just no way
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: of being around the bush with. That but everything's. Expensive,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: Everything everything has become. Expensive you, know there are options
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: that are out there now that are comparable and eyes
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: and functionality that are becoming more. Affordable again somebody's, like,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: oh well that's so more than my, House like, yeah
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: it's an expensive, Space like that's why the core of
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: it is and the soul of it to me is
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: still like THE diy guys that are building their own
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: campers and there's a lot of them out, there and
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: there's a, lot but you, Know adrenaline has come out
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: with something that's really, attractive The Adventure TRUCKS, xt which
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: is kind of a sub OF. Gx they were acquired
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: by the group Behind. Storyteller there are options and in
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: this space these, days AND i think it's going to
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: be really cool to see where it goes BECAUSE i
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: see so much interest in. IT i really see this
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  Speaker 3: kind of is like this progression of you, know they
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  Speaker 3: start with the ground, tent go to the roof, tent
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  Speaker 3: they go to the hardshell. Tent they'll be a truck
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  Speaker 3: camper or a wedge, camper and then it's. Van you,
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  Speaker 3: know as people's families, grow as, sure you get older
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  Speaker 3: and you want a little bit more. Comfort it seems
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  Speaker 3: like this is a segment of the industry that will
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  Speaker 3: continue to, grow and as it, does it will become
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  Speaker 3: more competitive and there should be more more options available
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  Speaker 3: for different price. Ranges and once we start seeing vehicles
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  Speaker 3: like this AT rv dealers and even earth Roam er
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  Speaker 3: and Earth crews are now you can finance. Them finance
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  Speaker 3: is a twenty YEAR rv. Loan, yeah, yeah you, know
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  Speaker 3: some of them you can finance as equipment to kind
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  Speaker 3: of keep your, cash you, know making. Money we could
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  Speaker 3: still sell ours for more than we paid for. It
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  Speaker 3: that's not always going to be the, case but with
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  Speaker 3: some of these, vehicles when you start you're in these financial.
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  Speaker 3: Circles they don't want to wait the year so you
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  Speaker 3: can use yours and if it's in you, know kind
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  Speaker 3: of like new, condition maybe you put ten fifteen thousand
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  Speaker 3: miles onto, it probably selling it for what you bought it.
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  Speaker 2: For, yeah that's where we're at.
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  Speaker 3: Currently it's not financial, advice but there's been a lot
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  Speaker 3: of PEOPLE i know that have gotten a new Earth
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  Speaker 3: romer every year or, two and we know a lot
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  Speaker 3: of the it just keeps, waterfalling cascading.
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  Speaker 1: Out expedition vehicles are a comfortable way to travel if
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  Speaker 1: you want to be on the road for a long
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  Speaker 1: period of. Time it's kind of nice to have your, space,
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  Speaker 1: yep despite the. Weather it could be minus twenty out or.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever there's reasons why they're, popular and they are popular.
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  Speaker 1: Globally they're probably the most popular In germany and.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah part such a Huge. Germany In, Austria, yeah very
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  Speaker 3: very popular. There so it'll be interesting to see where this.
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  Speaker 3: GOES i geek out on this, stuff so if anybody
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  Speaker 3: has any, questions reach out to me On.
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  Speaker 2: Instagram it's Just Matt, explore all.
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  Speaker 1: Right so there there are some really great books out.
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  Speaker 1: There this one those that are on the youtubes that
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  Speaker 1: you can see. It this one is written By ulrich
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  Speaker 1: Dol day and this is not In, english but you
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  Speaker 1: can buy an electronic version that it is In. English
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  Speaker 1: it was Translate vulnermobile and it is kind of The
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  Speaker 1: bible of. EXPEDITION i don't even know about this. One,
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  Speaker 1: yeah so that one's that one's kind of. Insane and
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  Speaker 1: then there's actually like like we all grew up With haines,
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  Speaker 1: manuals believe it or, not there is actually an overland.
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  Speaker 2: Campers it's really big In.
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  Speaker 1: Europe there's A Haynes Manual Overland camper by Mister wigglesworth
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  Speaker 1: Literally Steve Steve, WIGGLESWORTH i don't Know, steve awesome, name
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  Speaker 1: having an amazing last. Name this one here when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to driving expedition vehicles off, road this book here
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  Speaker 1: is incredibly. Valuable it Has english And german, captions but
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  Speaker 1: it talks a lot about technique in driving these really
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  Speaker 1: large expedition vehicles and campers off. Road so this one's
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  Speaker 1: really important because there is some adjustments to how they
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  Speaker 1: need to be. DRIVEN i didn't even know about. This,
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  Speaker 1: yeah there we. Go, yeah so you And Mark Glinda
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  Speaker 2: School, Yeah Gisbert. Hinded not for THE.
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  Speaker 1: Diy you really want to try to find The Ulrich dolde.
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  Speaker 1: BOOK i believe That Michael brayley is going to be
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  Speaker 1: your contact on that out Of germany if you go
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  Speaker 1: TO i think Their Overland.
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  Speaker 2: Europe, wow this really dives.
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  Speaker 1: In, yeah so that one. Is that one's really really
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  Speaker 1: nuanced and it's also very. Current these books oftentimes around
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  Speaker 1: building campers have an expiration date because the system's changed so.
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  Speaker 1: Often but this book is only maybe a year, old
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  Speaker 1: so it's very cly. Cool it's very current and extremely,
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  Speaker 1: detailed and you can get An english version that's been,
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  Speaker 1: translated so very. Cool a lot of resources out, there of,
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  Speaker 1: course there's a lot of conversations On Expedition Portal forum
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  Speaker 1: Around expedition camper diy. Builds there's a huge. Community i've
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  Speaker 1: gotten most of my. Information there's a lot of community
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  Speaker 1: activities still around. That there's some Good facebook groups. Too
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  Speaker 1: matt has offered to answer all of your questions Via INSTAGRAM,
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  Speaker 1: dm so as many AS i.
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  Speaker 3: Can and there's also a lot of people you know
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  Speaker 3: THAT i follow that are in the process of building their. Trucks,
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  Speaker 3: true you can follow On instagram so you can see
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  Speaker 3: what they're, doing how they're doing, it and maybe that's
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  Speaker 3: your first.
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  Speaker 2: Step is it's just some.
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  Speaker 1: It's right for, it that's, right consider an expedition vehicle
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  Speaker 1: and if you build your, own we would love to
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  Speaker 1: see a picture of. It you can post it up
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  Speaker 1: at a future. Date and we thank you all for,
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  Speaker 1: listening and we'll talk to you next. Time