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Speaker 1: Peter Kreendlin live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the program. It's great to
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Speaker 2: have your company on this New Year's eve. I'm Jamie
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Speaker 2: Rogers in the chair for Peter Kredline coming up tonight.
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Speaker 2: Massive crowds flocked advantage points around the nation to ring
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Speaker 2: in the new year amid ramped up security following the
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Speaker 2: Bondaie terror attack.
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Speaker 3: Will cross live to.
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Speaker 2: Our reporter in Sydney to get the mood on the ground.
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Speaker 2: New polling shows One Nation's Pauline Hansen and her newest MP,
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Speaker 2: Barnaby Joyce. I've enjoyed some of the largest turnarounds in
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Speaker 2: support to become increasingly likable politicians, and John Howard and
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Speaker 2: Peter Costello have advice for the Liberal Party Why they're
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Speaker 2: warning the party's.
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Speaker 3: Future is at risk. But first, as.
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Speaker 2: We approach the end of this year, calls continue to
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Speaker 2: mount for accountabilit over the Bondaie terror attack. The gap
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Speaker 2: between what Australians are asking for and what this Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister is prepared to deliver is growing wider by the day.
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Speaker 2: Anthony ALBANESEI is saying no to seventeen families of the
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Speaker 2: Bondai victims to Jewish community groups, some of the top
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Speaker 2: one hundred silks and two MPs across the Parliament, including
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Speaker 2: labor figures, former premiers and ministers who have broken ranks
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Speaker 2: with the Prime Minister. He said a royal commission is
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Speaker 2: not necessary, that it's not in the national interest. He
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Speaker 2: claims it will take years, but that claim doesn't match
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Speaker 2: the facts. More than half of Australia's federal royal commissions
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Speaker 2: have reported in under a year, many in a matter
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Speaker 2: of months. Even this government's own Robodebt Royal Commission took
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Speaker 2: just ten months. To date, the Albanesi government has renegged
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Speaker 2: on its commitment to establish a federal Royal Commission into
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Speaker 2: the pandemic, disregarding the final of two Senate Committee reports,
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Speaker 2: and in twenty twenty four also rejected calls from the
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Speaker 2: opposition for a royal commission into anti Semitism on Australian
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Speaker 2: university campuses.
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Speaker 3: So time is not the problem.
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Speaker 2: The real question is what is the government trying to
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Speaker 2: avoid It's moments like this. Australians expect their Prime minister
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Speaker 2: to lead from the front, not retreat behind process. Albanese's
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Speaker 2: latest excuse is that experts have advised him to not
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Speaker 2: have a Royal commission.
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Speaker 4: Here he was yesterday, we are following the advice that
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Speaker 4: we receive from authorities who are in twoenty and twenty
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Speaker 4: five dealing with this atrocity. Well, you have a National
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Speaker 4: Security Committee and we receive advice from all of those
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Speaker 4: bodies as part of that process.
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Speaker 2: If the government's position is that a Royal Commission would
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Speaker 2: somehow comps national security, then Australians deserve to know who
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Speaker 2: exactly is advising the Prime minister, which experts have recommended
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Speaker 2: against it. Are agencies like ASIO or the Australian Federal
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Speaker 2: Police advising the government not to proceed, and if so,
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Speaker 2: on what grounds?
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Speaker 3: These are not.
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Speaker 2: Unreasonable questions, they are fundamental in a democracy. Opposition leader
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Speaker 2: Susan Lee spoke this morning saying Australians deserved the truth.
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Speaker 5: Is the Prime Minister hiding behind a smoke screen? Is
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Speaker 5: he using national security as a political shield? Australians deserve
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Speaker 5: straight answers. Does this advice exist? What is the Prime
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Speaker 5: Minister hiding?
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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister is adamant his Richardson review is the
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Speaker 2: way to go. Listen to him talking about what it
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Speaker 2: would cover.
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Speaker 4: Mister Richardson will assess whether Commwealth agencies performed to maximum effectiveness.
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Speaker 4: He will consider what these agencies knew about the alleged
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Speaker 4: defenders before the attack, the information sharing between Comwalth agencies
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Speaker 4: and between com Wealth and state agencies, what judgments were
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Speaker 4: made and actions taken by agencies.
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Speaker 2: Although there's a big omission from that list, the words
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Speaker 2: anti Semitism and Islamic extremism were not mentioned. Once a
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Speaker 2: Royal Commission can investigate the development and effects of the
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Speaker 2: explosion of anti Semitic conduct in our society. Albanezi also
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Speaker 2: continuously refers to agencies that need to be investigated, but
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Speaker 2: he never once mentioned himself or his government, and that
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Speaker 2: their actions needed to be looked into too. Law enforcement
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Speaker 2: and intelligent agencies do not operate in a vacuum. They
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Speaker 2: are accountable to the government, which sets their priorities, funds
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Speaker 2: their activities, and determines the urgency of their work. The
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Speaker 2: danger now is that the blame will be shifted onto
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Speaker 2: intelligence agencies to shield the government from criticism. Peter Jennings
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Speaker 2: summed this up really well in Today's Australian. He writes,
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Speaker 2: the narrow focus on testing the adequacy of procedures in
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Speaker 2: the context of the Bondai terrorist attack means the review
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Speaker 2: is looking through a straw at a much bigger problem.
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Speaker 2: Too many questions will be left unanswered. Premier Chris Men's
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Speaker 2: is also being encouraged to put pressure on Albanezi to
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Speaker 2: runt a royal commission. The Premiere was asked about this today.
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Speaker 6: They've made their decision. I've made our decision. We are
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Speaker 6: going ahead with the Royal Commission in New South Wales.
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Speaker 6: Have also made a decision that I'm not going to
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Speaker 6: get into a long public commentary or yell from the
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Speaker 6: sidelines about this terrorism event. I've got massive responsibilities in
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Speaker 6: New south Wales and that's got to be my focus.
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Speaker 6: I'm responsible for the New South Wales government and I'm
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Speaker 6: going to act as I see best for our state.
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Speaker 2: New South Wales Opposition leader Kelly Sloane has also joined
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Speaker 2: in calls and written to the Premier urging him to
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Speaker 2: press Albanesi missus. Sloane said to The Daily Telegraph the
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Speaker 2: Premier has a unique influence over the Prime Minister and
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Speaker 2: he should be using that influence now to formally ask
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Speaker 2: Anthony Alberesi to establish a Royal Commission. This might be
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Speaker 2: politically uncomfortable for the Premier, but he should not be
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Speaker 2: running cover for the Prime Minister and doing everything in
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Speaker 2: his power to make this happen. We owe it to
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Speaker 2: the victims and the survivors, and to everyone in our
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Speaker 2: state to do everything in our power to help establish
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Speaker 2: a national Royal Commission. The Premier has an opportunity to
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Speaker 2: do that with the Prime Minister. Well, that's a clear
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Speaker 2: challenge to leadership, asking the Premier to use his influence
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Speaker 2: and stop shielding the Prime Minister from scrutiny.
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Speaker 3: And it lands on a.
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Speaker 2: Night when the Prime Minister is speaking directly to the
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Speaker 2: nation in the Albanezi has delivered his New Year's address.
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Speaker 3: He is part of it.
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Speaker 4: And that is why I'm optimistic and determined that in
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Speaker 4: the new year we will rise to meet the challenges
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Speaker 4: ahead of us in the same way Australians always do
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Speaker 4: by working together and looking after each other. And no
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Speaker 4: matter what the world throws in us, we will keep
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Speaker 4: doing things our way, stay true to who we are,
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Speaker 4: hold on to everything that makes us the best country
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Speaker 4: on earth.
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Speaker 2: Listening to those words, one thing is clear. Unity isn't
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Speaker 2: built on slogans. It's built on trust, and trust comes
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Speaker 2: from transparency, not closed doors, delayed answers or avoided scrutiny.
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Speaker 2: If the Prime Minister truly believes in doing things our way,
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Speaker 2: then he should stop resisting a royal commission and start
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Speaker 2: leading one. And Premier Chris Mins has urged Sydney siders
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Speaker 2: to still come together to watch the fireworks and welcome
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Speaker 2: in the new year. It's a quiet but powerful reminder
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Speaker 2: that this city and this country will not be intimidated.
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Speaker 6: We want to make it clear that we are not
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Speaker 6: going to be in a situation where the way we
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Speaker 6: live in our beautiful city is substantially altered as a
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Speaker 6: result of the behaviors of these terrorists. That would be
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Speaker 6: a horrible outcome. I don't think Sydney Siders want to
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Speaker 6: live that way, and we can't live that way. And
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Speaker 6: the best way of demonstrating defiance to that kind of ideology,
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Speaker 6: that horrible crime, is to go about living your life
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Speaker 6: the way you would ordinarily do it and get some
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Speaker 6: joy out of New Year's Eve.
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Speaker 2: And tonight we close the door on a year that
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Speaker 2: challenged Australians deeply.
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Speaker 3: But strength isn't.
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Speaker 2: Measured by how easy the year was. It's measured by
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Speaker 2: how we respond. We stand tall, we stand together, and
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Speaker 2: we don't shy away.
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Speaker 3: From hard truths.
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Speaker 2: The sun relies on twenty twenty six, and with it
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Speaker 2: comes the chance to demand on dnesty, courage and leadership
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Speaker 2: that reflects the values that we believe in. We live
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Speaker 2: in the best country in the world and keeping it
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Speaker 2: that way means never walking away from truth, accountability or
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Speaker 2: who we are.
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Speaker 3: Well.
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Speaker 2: The countdown is on to New Ye's Eve celebrations around
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Speaker 2: the country. In Sydney, over one million people are expected
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Speaker 2: to watch the fireworks from fifty vantage points around the city.
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Speaker 2: Let's cross now to report Christy Lloyd to get the
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Speaker 2: mood on the ground and Christy, thank you so much
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Speaker 2: for joining us.
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Speaker 3: It looks packed where you are. What's the atmosphere like?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's absolutely a packed here this evening, Jamie. And
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Speaker 7: the excitement is really starting to build. I mean, why
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Speaker 7: wouldn't you be excited when this is the view that
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Speaker 7: we have down here at Sydney Harbor at Blues Point
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Speaker 7: Reserve in North Sydney. We've seen a steady flow of
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Speaker 7: people coming in throughout the morning and into the afternoon.
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Speaker 8: There is of course strict security checks.
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Speaker 7: This is a ticketed event down here, so bag checks
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Speaker 7: have been taking place, but the excitement really starting to build.
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Speaker 7: We've got live entertainment, live music, food trucks down here,
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Speaker 7: so there is plenty to keep people occupied as they
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Speaker 7: await the new year.
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Speaker 8: Not long to go now we are counting.
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Speaker 7: Down to those at nine o'clock fireworks and then of
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Speaker 7: course the all important midnight fireworks there Jamie.
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Speaker 2: Well, Christy, I saw some videos earlier this morning. It
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Speaker 2: was around six forty five and there were cues of
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Speaker 2: people waiting to go and get their advantage point. What
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Speaker 2: time did you see people starting to come in and
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Speaker 2: what have they been doing all day?
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Speaker 7: Well, look, I didn't see them myself because I was
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Speaker 7: not awake at this time, but we have been told
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Speaker 7: that people have been lining up since two am this
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Speaker 7: morning just to get the best advantage point in Sydney.
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Speaker 7: So hopefully, and I'm absolutely sure that it will no
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Speaker 7: doubt be worth it. Now you mentioned what are people
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Speaker 7: doing to pass the time? As I mentioned, we've got
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Speaker 7: some live music here, we've got food trucks, but we've
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Speaker 7: seen a lot of people coming down bringing their cards,
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Speaker 7: playing cards down here to pass the time. Some people
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Speaker 7: have brought their their laptops and they've been watching movies.
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Speaker 7: Others have got different games set up, some snakes and ladders,
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Speaker 7: but one of the big things that we've been seeing
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Speaker 7: people doing down here is taking a little nap.
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Speaker 8: I don't know if you can see just over in
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Speaker 8: that corner there.
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Speaker 7: That's the sites that we've been seeing throughout the afternoon.
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Speaker 7: A lot of people using this time to catch up
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Speaker 7: on some sleep.
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Speaker 8: As they as they await the new year.
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Speaker 2: Now, Christy, there was plenty of discussions during the week
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Speaker 2: about the amped up police that was going to be
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Speaker 2: all around these vantage points.
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Speaker 3: What can you see.
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Speaker 7: Well, actually, just as you mentioned that, just walking behind
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Speaker 7: me here you've got the new South Wales Police Force
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Speaker 7: doing patrols walking up and down in these crowded areas.
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Speaker 7: We have seen their presence become more prominent just in
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Speaker 7: the last couple of hours. There is also a number
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Speaker 7: of security guards around here as well. We've had pole
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Speaker 7: Air hovering up above not too long ago, and water
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Speaker 7: police going past. As you mentioned that security bolstered today
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Speaker 7: in the wake of the Bondai terror attack, but authorities
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Speaker 7: have been wanting to get the message across to people
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Speaker 7: that there is no reason for fear, but rather they
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Speaker 7: are doing this as a matter of precaution and to
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Speaker 7: make the community feel safe. Now, this is one of
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Speaker 7: the largest police operations that Sydney has seen at New
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Speaker 7: Year's Eve. It's estimated that around two thousand and five
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Speaker 7: hundred police have been patrolling the city today from the ground,
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Speaker 7: as I mentioned, from the air and also the waters,
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Speaker 7: so a heavy police presence throughout the day. But we've
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Speaker 7: been speaking to people down here who have been saying
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Speaker 7: they're not fearful, they're not letting the fear win. They're
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Speaker 7: happy to come down and to celebrate, and the extra
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Speaker 7: police presence is just increasing that feeling of safety down here.
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Speaker 2: Now, Christy, before I let you go, the fireworks this
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Speaker 2: year are meant to be bigger and better from what
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Speaker 2: we saw last year. It's always an impressive display. What
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Speaker 2: are you expecting to see?
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Speaker 7: I know, it's hard to believe that it can get
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Speaker 7: any better than what we've seen already. Of course, Sydney boasts,
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Speaker 7: without a doubt and in my completely unbiased opinion, the
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Speaker 7: best fireworks in the world and really sets the tone
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Speaker 7: for the rest of the world. To follow, But as
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Speaker 7: you mentioned, we are expecting bigger and better this year.
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Speaker 7: We'll see fireworks launched from barges across the Harbor, stretching
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Speaker 7: over eight kilometers. Fireworks will also be launched from the
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Speaker 7: ground from buildings from the Sydney Harbor Bridge as well
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Speaker 7: as the Opera House.
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Speaker 8: One of the big features that is.
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Speaker 7: Quite popular for many people is the waterfall cascades off
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Speaker 7: the Harbor Bridge at the end of the fireworks show.
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Speaker 8: Now there's gonna be a bit of a twist to
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Speaker 8: that tonight.
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Speaker 7: We're hearing that tonight we'll actually see that waterfall cascading
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Speaker 7: over the Harbor Bridge from both the top and the
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Speaker 7: bottom of the bridge, so that is going to be
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Speaker 7: something quite spectacular.
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Speaker 8: To keep an eye out for tonight.
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Speaker 7: We're also hearing that tonight's fireworks display will feature Australian
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Speaker 7: flora and fauna, so be sure to keep an eye
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Speaker 7: out for some iconic Australian animals in the mix of
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Speaker 7: the fireworks display later this evening for nine o'clock and
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Speaker 7: also the midnight fireworks. But as you can see, the
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Speaker 7: excitement really starting to build. The kids are getting excited.
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Speaker 7: Are you excited, guys?
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Speaker 8: Yes, what do you.
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Speaker 7: Want to wish everyone heavy new Yeah?
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Speaker 8: Are you going to stay up for the midnight fireworks?
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Speaker 1: Yes?
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Speaker 7: Absolutely, it is going to be a spectacular show as always, Jamie.
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Speaker 2: Well, Christy, you're doing a fantastic job. But keep it up,
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Speaker 2: enjoy the night ahead. Thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: M Well.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now is our panel and it's Sky News
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Speaker 2: contributor Carolie Kats and Varners and One Nation Chief of
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Speaker 2: staff at James Ashby, and good evening to both of you.
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Speaker 3: Thank you for joining me on New Year's Eve.
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Speaker 2: James, I will start with you today. It was revealed
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Speaker 2: in the result Political Monitor that of all the federal politicians,
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Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson and her newest MP Barnaby Joyce have enjoyed
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Speaker 2: some of the largest turnarounds in support and then on
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Speaker 2: Sky News earlier today, Barnaby was asked whether he would
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Speaker 2: be the leader of One Nation.
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Speaker 3: Let's take a listen to his response.
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Speaker 9: You don't rule it out, but I've got a big
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Speaker 9: task in front of me. Look after the people of
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Speaker 9: New England number one, number two. Then I put myself
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Speaker 9: before the people of New South Wales and no I'll
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Speaker 9: make a decision whether my political creed goes on or not.
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Speaker 9: And what the people of New South Wales want to
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Speaker 9: hear is not my ambitions or otherwise.
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Speaker 7: For the future.
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Speaker 9: They want to hear how I'm going to look after
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Speaker 9: them in my term and at this point I'm looking
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Speaker 9: after New England.
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Speaker 3: For James.
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Speaker 2: What do you make of that reply? And of course
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Speaker 2: the popularity of Pauline and.
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Speaker 10: Varnaby, Well, don't write Pauline off either, because I heard
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Speaker 10: her say to one journalist who said, oh, you've only
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Speaker 10: got a couple of years left, and she said, well,
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Speaker 10: with that attitude, I'm going to stay on for two
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Speaker 10: more terms. And she's gotten in her From what I've
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Speaker 10: seen of her, she's the sprightest I've ever seen her,
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Speaker 10: and never a harder working politician either. She's somebody who's
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Speaker 10: got around the regional parts of our country. Unlike most
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Speaker 10: of the others who jet in on commercial flights. She's
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Speaker 10: there in a full drive and she goes to those
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Speaker 10: far flung areas. So I think also too, after thirty years,
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Speaker 10: people are starting to realize, particularly since the introduction of
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Speaker 10: social media, what Pauline Hanson truly stands for and what
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Speaker 10: one nation stands for as a whole as well, because
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Speaker 10: in the past, when she first came on the scene
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Speaker 10: in the late nineties, it's very easy for media to
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Speaker 10: take five second sound bites and just make her look
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Speaker 10: bad or make her look racist, Whereas I think in
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Speaker 10: the last ten years, what Pauline's managed to do is
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Speaker 10: grow her social media platforms, whether it be Facebook or
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Speaker 10: Twitter or even Instagram for that matter, appeal to a
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Speaker 10: broad range of demographics and talk to them one on
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Speaker 10: one on their level and not in sound bites, but
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Speaker 10: actually give people a true indication of what she stands for.
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Speaker 10: And the one thing I say to people is when
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Speaker 10: they meet Pauline Hanson, very very difficult to not like her.
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Speaker 10: If Pauline could meet the twenty eight million people we've
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Speaker 10: got in this country, I think she'd be Prime Minister
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Speaker 10: by the next election.
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Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it.
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Speaker 10: She's a very likable lady, and I think people start
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Speaker 10: to realize what she stands for, and that is preserving
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Speaker 10: the Australian way of life and making sure that everybody
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Speaker 10: has an opportunity at whatever age, whether they're young right
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Speaker 10: through to seniors. There's opportunity. When people support Pauline, Yeah.
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Speaker 2: There's certainly a lot of voters are leaning towards Pauline.
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Speaker 2: At the moment, Caroly Anthony Alberezi is facing mounting pressure
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Speaker 2: to identify the source of the actual experts who advised
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Speaker 2: him not to launch a federal royal commission into the
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Speaker 2: Bondai massacre. Don't Australians deserve to know who these experts are?
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Speaker 3: Absolutely?
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Speaker 1: Good evening, Jamie and also to Jameson, to all the
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Speaker 1: viewers on this New Year's Eve. Look they do. And
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Speaker 1: I don't know why he's not revealing it. Well I
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Speaker 1: do know, because why would he? I mean, his so
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Speaker 1: called experts. Who are they? Are they Chris Bowen? Are
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Speaker 1: they Penny Wong, Tony Burke? Why won't he reveal them?
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Speaker 1: The reason is every day that goes by that he
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Speaker 1: resists holding a royal commission is one more day that
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Speaker 1: the Australian public and the pressure from Sky News and
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Speaker 1: other media need to keep up on him as to
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Speaker 1: why he isn't calling a royal commission. An internal inquiry
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Speaker 1: is definitely not good enough. It doesn't have the far
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Speaker 1: reaching powers of a royal commission. It is no disrespect
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Speaker 1: to Dennis Richardson. He's been around for donkeys' years. But
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Speaker 1: there is evidently something that Albanezy is hiding. He may
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Speaker 1: even know what it is. But why not hold a
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Speaker 1: royal commission? We've had it into the banking, we've had
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Speaker 1: it into aged care, we've had it into robodebt. A
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Speaker 1: royal commission is able to delve far deeper than an
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Speaker 1: internal inquiry. You get one opportunity to do this, so
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Speaker 1: why wouldn't you actually do it properly from the get go?
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Speaker 1: But it's also disgraceful because I hope that Australians do
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Speaker 1: remember that since October the seventh, twenty twenty three, every
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Speaker 1: day that has gone by has allowed this anti Semitism
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Speaker 1: in this country to actually fester. And every day that
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Speaker 1: he delays calling a royal commission is an insult to
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Speaker 1: the victims and to the families and Australia's worst terror attack.
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Speaker 1: It was less than two and a half weeks ago,
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Speaker 1: and it's absolutely disgraceful. Why won't he hold a royal commission?
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Speaker 1: You know why? Because he knows that things are going
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Speaker 1: to become uncovered.
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Speaker 2: And I think he's just holding out that this celebratory period.
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Speaker 2: It just sort of gets swept under the rug, but
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Speaker 2: we will make sure we can continue to gee calling
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Speaker 2: for that Royal Commission, James. A concerning report has come
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Speaker 2: out of Queensland that the gun Register is still using
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Speaker 2: paper to track guns. How is that still possible in
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 10: That's a good question, Jamie. Look on a licensed firearms owner,
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Speaker 10: so too, or the rest of my family in the
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Speaker 10: what's it been probably five or six years that we
20:25
Speaker 10: have been licensed, well me in particular, never once we've
20:28
Speaker 10: been requested a review of our weapons. I would welcome
20:32
Speaker 10: it from any police that want to come and check
20:34
Speaker 10: at any time. I think that's an important and crucial
20:37
Speaker 10: part of being a responsible firearms owner. But to think
20:40
Speaker 10: that our state government, despite being told about this problem
20:43
Speaker 10: some time ago, have never implemented a system that's electronic.
20:48
Speaker 10: I think it also goes to the heart of why
20:50
Speaker 10: police find it very difficult to discover who may be licensed,
20:55
Speaker 10: particularly when it comes to domestic violence issues. I would
20:58
Speaker 10: hope that police had a very up to date register
21:02
Speaker 10: of those people who may be charged and found guilty
21:05
Speaker 10: of domestic violence. They shouldn't have weapons licenses, doesn't matter
21:09
Speaker 10: whether it's Queensland or across the country. How do you
21:11
Speaker 10: keep a proper copy of this detail if it's not electronic.
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Speaker 3: So it's well overdue.
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Speaker 10: I think that Labour's got a lot to answer it
21:19
Speaker 10: for here they were in charge for a very long time.
21:22
Speaker 10: Chris of fully government here in Queensland have only been
21:24
Speaker 10: in government for a bit over a year. I'm not
21:27
Speaker 10: suggesting that it hasn't been looked at, but it needs
21:29
Speaker 10: to be sped up that process and create that electronic
21:34
Speaker 10: profile that we all need for the police to have,
21:37
Speaker 10: but also too for as licensed weapons owners. I'm happy
21:41
Speaker 10: to see that electronic process because it will also speed
21:44
Speaker 10: up other processes for legal firearms owners who actually want
21:47
Speaker 10: to get a PTA in or those who want to
21:50
Speaker 10: go through the checks to get their own license.
21:53
Speaker 1: Well.
21:53
Speaker 2: And if that system isn't updated quickly, no doubt this
21:55
Speaker 2: is going to cause issues with the National Firearms Register
21:58
Speaker 2: that's set to be up and running by twenty twenty
22:01
Speaker 2: eight and carrely just quickly before we go. There's an
22:04
Speaker 2: interesting job going at the moment. The company behind chat
22:08
Speaker 2: GPT has a head of Preparedness role. It's paying eight
22:12
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty eight thousand dollars to protect humanity from
22:14
Speaker 2: the worst impacts of artificial intelligence, and this comes as
22:19
Speaker 2: the aiboss on he spoke on BBC where he basically
22:22
Speaker 2: has said, if you aren't scared, you're not paying attention.
22:26
Speaker 2: What do you make of this new role?
22:30
Speaker 1: Well, look, I mean it's a private company as well
22:32
Speaker 1: open AI. It's behind chat GBT. I actually think it's
22:35
Speaker 1: pretty responsible with what they're doing. Who will actually be
22:37
Speaker 1: chosen to do the job?
22:39
Speaker 3: Who knows.
22:40
Speaker 1: But I think that it is also warning of the
22:42
Speaker 1: dangers of AI, whether it's biological warfare, whether it's the
22:45
Speaker 1: opportunity for terrors to be able to launch attax. I think,
22:49
Speaker 1: you know, the genie is out of the bottle, but
22:52
Speaker 1: they're just about to sort of be able to pull
22:54
Speaker 1: it back in. I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
22:56
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see who gets it. But this
22:58
Speaker 1: is a private company which seems to be taking a
23:01
Speaker 1: responsible outlook and view into trying to safeguard things for
23:05
Speaker 1: the future. Also important to remind people that there are
23:09
Speaker 1: some toys that have come out, these AI toys. There
23:12
Speaker 1: are a lot of warnings about this for parents because
23:14
Speaker 1: a lot of them are talking about sexually provocative things.
23:17
Speaker 1: There's also spy where orbits and pieces. A little bit
23:21
Speaker 1: of a warning for parents out there. These toys. We've
23:23
Speaker 1: always had funny toys, cabbage patch dolls, furbies, things like that.
23:27
Speaker 1: Just be mindful of what you're actually buying your kids
23:29
Speaker 1: and teachers, be mindful of what you're buying for next
23:32
Speaker 1: you know, for the next school year, for your classroom,
23:35
Speaker 1: because there's nothing better than puzzles and monopoly and actually
23:37
Speaker 1: talking to kids. Well, we don't want them to get
23:40
Speaker 1: left behind, but this AI, it's very, very dangerous.
23:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're spot on there, Curly.
23:45
Speaker 2: I saw that article and I thought it was just
23:47
Speaker 2: madness that give children a toy that was AI. But
23:50
Speaker 2: apparently it was a lot of stocking fillers, So we've
23:52
Speaker 2: got to make sure that they are not in any
23:54
Speaker 2: children's hands. I'll leave it there, Thank you so much,
23:56
Speaker 2: Caroly and James have a great New Year's Eve.
23:59
Speaker 3: Well after the break. A warning from John Howard and Peter.
24:03
Speaker 2: Costello for the Liberal Party what they think must change.
24:07
Speaker 2: Plus why is Donald Trump killing off clean energy?
24:14
Speaker 3: Welcome back to the program.
24:16
Speaker 2: Joining me now is a senior fellow at the Menzies
24:19
Speaker 2: Research Center, Nick Cata. And Nick, you look like you're
24:22
Speaker 2: at advantage point getting ready for the fireworks.
24:26
Speaker 11: Well I am, actually if I'm in Kiribilly, just next
24:29
Speaker 11: door to the Prime Minister's joint and we've got a
24:31
Speaker 11: good view of the fireworks from here, I hope.
24:33
Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate your dedication for still doing your cross
24:36
Speaker 2: with me. Let's get straight into it. John Howard and
24:40
Speaker 2: Peter Costello say the Liberal Party needs to clearly differentiate
24:43
Speaker 2: itself and rediscover its identity as a mainstream center right
24:47
Speaker 2: party and be bolder on things like workplace relations, taxation
24:52
Speaker 2: and energy or face never getting elected again. What do
24:57
Speaker 2: you make of their comments.
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Speaker 11: I think that's just common sense, isn't it. I think,
25:02
Speaker 11: you know, the key to getting re elected is to
25:06
Speaker 11: get where the voters are. So cost of living, taxation
25:10
Speaker 11: obviously increasingly, workplace relations, the influence of the unions, and
25:16
Speaker 11: energy prices. Those are the things which the government which
25:19
Speaker 11: you have to campaign on hard if you want to
25:21
Speaker 11: get into government. Immigration is the other one, and of
25:24
Speaker 11: course national security right now is the top of people's minds,
25:27
Speaker 11: particularly after BONDI. So I think when we say get
25:30
Speaker 11: back to the center, what we're essentially saying is get
25:32
Speaker 11: inside people's heads ordinary voters, not the people in camera
25:37
Speaker 11: or bore clues, but you know, in the sort of
25:40
Speaker 11: seats that you need to win out in Western Sydney
25:42
Speaker 11: and northwest Victoria, Nick.
25:45
Speaker 2: The Liberal Party walked away from well it used to
25:48
Speaker 2: be a previous central commitment for them, which was economic
25:52
Speaker 2: security and something that they had previously been really good
25:55
Speaker 2: at and we saw in the last election they were
25:57
Speaker 2: proposing to increase income taxes, run bigger deficits and no
26:02
Speaker 2: real plan to reduce debt. Do you think moving away
26:05
Speaker 2: from the economic security did brand damage.
26:08
Speaker 3: For the party.
26:10
Speaker 11: I think it's self evident that the Liberal Party did
26:13
Speaker 11: not campaign strongly on economics, which is there, which is
26:17
Speaker 11: their strong point. And the indication for that for me
26:21
Speaker 11: was when you look at some of the some of
26:23
Speaker 11: the booths out where there are a lot of subdivisions,
26:26
Speaker 11: a lot of new houses, people have got high mortgages
26:28
Speaker 11: in the mortgage belt. Those seats did not come the
26:31
Speaker 11: Liberals way they should have done after twelve mortgage rate
26:35
Speaker 11: rises in a row. So I think it's a case
26:37
Speaker 11: of getting back to basics, getting back to what the
26:40
Speaker 11: Liberal Party is strong on, and just reminding voters that
26:44
Speaker 11: the interest rates will always be lower under the Liberal Party,
26:48
Speaker 11: but that will involve, of course cutting back on government
26:51
Speaker 11: spending and they'll need some nerve and some courage to
26:54
Speaker 11: do that, you know. But there has to be a
26:57
Speaker 11: real attack on government spending because that's the only way
27:00
Speaker 11: you get inflation down in the long run.
27:03
Speaker 2: And the former Prime Minister and treasurer also said that
27:06
Speaker 2: there was no path back to power without regaining the
27:09
Speaker 2: Teal seats and what was once the party's former heartland
27:12
Speaker 2: in multiple states. We have seen it happen, Tim Wilson,
27:16
Speaker 2: one in Goldstein. Do you agree that's the way back.
27:21
Speaker 11: I think it's part of the way back. Yeah, But
27:23
Speaker 11: it's a difficult thing, of course, because they've got to
27:25
Speaker 11: win both those TiAl seats and very different seats where
27:29
Speaker 11: there are very different concerns out in the outer suburbs
27:32
Speaker 11: and in the regions. Doing that will be hard. But
27:35
Speaker 11: I think if they go back to the basics on economics,
27:38
Speaker 11: on family values, on taxation, all those things, of course
27:43
Speaker 11: there's a unity ticket on that. Whether you live in
27:46
Speaker 11: Bondai on bore Clues, or whether you live out there
27:49
Speaker 11: in Liverpool or Miller. You know, these are things which
27:53
Speaker 11: you get back to those fundamentals. I think then you
27:56
Speaker 11: find the thing which unites Australians and you can find
28:00
Speaker 11: a message that is to your core values but resonates
28:04
Speaker 11: across Australia.
28:06
Speaker 2: New South Wales opposition leader Kelly Sloane has joined calls.
28:10
Speaker 2: This time she's reached out to Chris Mins to pressure
28:13
Speaker 2: Anthony Alberesi into a royal commission. The Premier said today
28:16
Speaker 2: that his focus is on New South Wales. But Nick,
28:20
Speaker 2: the Premier is in a unique position to be able
28:22
Speaker 2: to actually encourage Alberanesi to go ahead with one.
28:26
Speaker 3: What do you think.
28:28
Speaker 11: I think the Premier has been very diplomatic, as you'd
28:31
Speaker 11: expect from a labor premier, but it's obvious that we
28:34
Speaker 11: do need a federal royal commission. We need to look
28:37
Speaker 11: at this issue of antisemitism. Let's not dodge this, let's
28:41
Speaker 11: not beat about the bush. You know, the thing that
28:44
Speaker 11: is common to the almost four thousand registered anti Semitic
28:49
Speaker 11: insidants in the last two years, including the most recent
28:52
Speaker 11: and most horrific out there in Bondi, is antisemitism. It's
28:56
Speaker 11: become a normal it's become normalized, it's become acceptable. You
29:00
Speaker 11: know that you can show prejudice against the Jewish people.
29:04
Speaker 11: This has to stop. We have to get back to
29:06
Speaker 11: a position where Jewish people can worship, where they can
29:09
Speaker 11: send their children to school, to preschool without living up
29:13
Speaker 11: behind all this security, you know, increasing security. Yes, sure
29:17
Speaker 11: it's essentral right now, but we need to get back
29:19
Speaker 11: to the fact where Jewish people, just like any other Australians,
29:22
Speaker 11: can go about their business without fear of prejudice or
29:26
Speaker 11: racism addressed at them, anti Semitism and absolute scourge. We
29:30
Speaker 11: need to address that and I think that the only
29:32
Speaker 11: way to do that is to get a Royal commission
29:35
Speaker 11: going and a real discussion on how we cure this.
29:39
Speaker 2: Nick let's head overseas now and President Donald Trump, who
29:42
Speaker 2: has never been a fan of wind farms, well, he
29:45
Speaker 2: has now put the brakes on the construction of five East.
29:48
Speaker 3: Coast offshore projects.
29:50
Speaker 2: This would have powered about two point seven million homes.
29:53
Speaker 2: A federal lawsuit could potentially come to challenge this decision.
29:57
Speaker 2: Although is Trump right in pausing this prote.
30:02
Speaker 11: Look Offshore wind is far too expensive, far too technically difficult,
30:07
Speaker 11: and will not help us in the long run because
30:09
Speaker 11: it's its intermittent power, It's a waste of time, it's
30:13
Speaker 11: a waste of capital, it's a waste of money, and
30:16
Speaker 11: it is damaging to the environment. He's done the natural thing.
30:19
Speaker 11: We have offshore wind supposedly planned here in Australia, but
30:23
Speaker 11: I don't think any of it's going ahead because the
30:25
Speaker 11: economic case just doesn't stuff up. So I think the
30:28
Speaker 11: President's just stepped in to put this out of its misery.
30:32
Speaker 11: And as for the other projects, the wind are solar
30:35
Speaker 11: that will inevitably follow once we get a secure baseload
30:38
Speaker 11: source of power, than those things become totally redundant.
30:43
Speaker 2: Well, Nick, thank you so much for your time this evening.
30:45
Speaker 2: Go and enjoy those fireworks and have a fantastic New
30:48
Speaker 2: Year's Eves well after the break which Australian University is
30:53
Speaker 2: in the spotlight for continuing research ties with Russia's nuclear
30:58
Speaker 2: establishment during the Ukraine War. Plus, Victorian crime is back
31:02
Speaker 2: in the headlines, with paramedics reporting a rise and assaults
31:06
Speaker 2: on them over the Christmas period.
31:11
Speaker 3: Welcome back to the program.
31:13
Speaker 2: Joining me now is a Victorian Libertarian Party leader, David Limbrick. David,
31:18
Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining me on this New
31:20
Speaker 2: Year's Eve. I want to start with the suburban rail
31:24
Speaker 2: loop in Victoria. It's certainly made headlines for all the
31:27
Speaker 2: wrong reasons, and the Prime Minister is committed to backing
31:30
Speaker 2: the project, which ultimately means the rest of us in
31:33
Speaker 2: the country is bailing out the Victorian government. Even members
31:36
Speaker 2: of the Labor Party think this project is nuts. What's
31:39
Speaker 2: your opinion, should the money have been spelt elsewhere?
31:45
Speaker 12: Well, I don't have any problem with the federal government
31:49
Speaker 12: giving money back to Victorians. I mean, Victorians pay tax
31:52
Speaker 12: to the federal government. But yes, you make a good
31:54
Speaker 12: point in that is this actually something that is worth
31:57
Speaker 12: spending money on now? They say it could be up
32:00
Speaker 12: to four hundred billion dollars. I know that there's been
32:02
Speaker 12: a PBO report that says that we're lucky to get
32:05
Speaker 12: fifty cents in the dollar return back on that. By
32:08
Speaker 12: any measure, that is not a good investment. And there's
32:12
Speaker 12: farm the many other things that we could be investing
32:14
Speaker 12: in or giving some of the money back to taxpayers.
32:18
Speaker 12: So I just think that this is a very very
32:21
Speaker 12: risky project in terms of its financial viability over the
32:24
Speaker 12: long term, and really next Y's election is the last
32:27
Speaker 12: chance that we get to knock it on the head
32:29
Speaker 12: before it's too big to fail.
32:32
Speaker 2: Now Australian taxpayer funds alongside US military grants. This blew
32:38
Speaker 2: my mind when I saw it today, helping to support
32:41
Speaker 2: physics research at the Australian National University. Now this involves
32:46
Speaker 2: a Russian scientist who's linked to an institute at the
32:50
Speaker 2: heart of Vladimir Putin's nuclear weapons program. Now this is
32:54
Speaker 2: also the same university who had a public vow to
32:57
Speaker 2: cut tires with Russia and stand on the right side
33:00
Speaker 2: out of history. Is this just a case of say
33:03
Speaker 2: one thing and do something else.
33:08
Speaker 12: Well, I know what it's like to be on a
33:11
Speaker 12: Russian sanction list because I'm on one, as the other
33:14
Speaker 12: every other Victorian member of Parliament. We got put on
33:17
Speaker 12: one a while ago. But yeah, it's concerning that taxpayer
33:20
Speaker 12: funds are being used to funnel money to potentially people
33:24
Speaker 12: who don't have Australia's best interests at heart. I'd like
33:28
Speaker 12: to pose the question, why don't we have more nuclear
33:30
Speaker 12: scientists in Australia. You know, we've got this nuclear prohibition
33:34
Speaker 12: ban in Victoria, We've got this federal ban. I'd like
33:37
Speaker 12: to see more nuclear scientists in Victoria and we can
33:39
Speaker 12: do that by removing nuclear prohibitions in Australia.
33:42
Speaker 3: I think from memory, correct me if I'm wrong.
33:44
Speaker 2: I think it's unsw is just starting up a nuclear
33:47
Speaker 2: science degree, the first in the country. But speaking of education,
33:52
Speaker 2: Jason Claire, he has got the decision making powers to
33:55
Speaker 2: refuse approval of grants for reasons that could be relevant
33:58
Speaker 2: to security or defense and international relations of Australia. So
34:03
Speaker 2: you'd think mister Claire would be reviewing A and u's
34:05
Speaker 2: grants off the back of this report.
34:10
Speaker 12: Well, you'd hope.
34:11
Speaker 5: So.
34:11
Speaker 12: I mean, look, I don't know the details of like
34:13
Speaker 12: what is actually what they're actually researching, but certainly if
34:18
Speaker 12: there's someone that's been involved with a state that's we've
34:21
Speaker 12: got mutual sanctions with, then you know we should be
34:25
Speaker 12: reviewing whether that's appropriate or not.
34:28
Speaker 3: David, this has been a tough year in Victoria.
34:32
Speaker 2: I feel as though crime is always making headlines and
34:35
Speaker 2: in the past three weeks more than one hundred arrests
34:38
Speaker 2: have been made across four Melbourne shopping centers.
34:40
Speaker 3: Now, these facilities.
34:42
Speaker 2: Have been a focus because of the high retail theft
34:45
Speaker 2: and the anti social behavior that's been seen around there.
34:48
Speaker 2: What's the government doing to combat this issue.
34:55
Speaker 12: Well, you know, they banned the machetes, but that didn't
34:58
Speaker 12: really do much. But look, the framing from police was interesting.
35:03
Speaker 12: They said there's no tolerance. It sort of implies that
35:06
Speaker 12: there was tolerance before. I don't really think that's the case.
35:09
Speaker 12: I think what they're alluding to here is that there
35:11
Speaker 12: is limited resources that police have to choose where to
35:15
Speaker 12: focus them, and at the moment, they're focusing them on
35:18
Speaker 12: retail crime. Look, I think that's a good thing because
35:20
Speaker 12: it has been a big problem in my electra in
35:23
Speaker 12: mortialic there was you know, these rampages of young people
35:26
Speaker 12: that went through and went through Woolworth's there. So it
35:30
Speaker 12: is a problem. But I think the police have to
35:32
Speaker 12: be backed up by the courts as well, because there's
35:34
Speaker 12: no point police arresting people if they're just let out
35:38
Speaker 12: again on bail or given a slap on the wrist.
35:40
Speaker 12: The court system needs to step up as well, and
35:43
Speaker 12: they need to be given the tools to do that
35:44
Speaker 12: by Parliament. And you know, Parliament will be looking at
35:47
Speaker 12: this next early next year, I believe, So let's see
35:50
Speaker 12: what happened, what Parliament, what the government actually comes up with.
35:53
Speaker 12: I'll be supporting, you know, anything that can make sure
35:57
Speaker 12: that there consequences for crime.
36:00
Speaker 2: Ambulance Victoria has reported an increase in violence against paramedics
36:05
Speaker 2: over this Christmas holiday, and I just find this disgraceful.
36:09
Speaker 2: Frontline workers should be showing respect. Now they're being abused
36:13
Speaker 2: while doing their job. What has happened to society that
36:16
Speaker 2: people think that that's okay?
36:21
Speaker 12: Well, I agree, it is disgraceful that these people that
36:25
Speaker 12: you know, work to help people that are in trouble
36:28
Speaker 12: get treated like this. I think the elephant in the
36:31
Speaker 12: room here is alcohol. You know, many of these instances
36:34
Speaker 12: are drunk people. I think that you know, if people
36:37
Speaker 12: are going to go out drinking, they need to take
36:39
Speaker 12: responsibility for themselves and take responsibility for your friends as well,
36:43
Speaker 12: and make sure that this sort of thing doesn't happen,
36:46
Speaker 12: because when it does that people need to be held accountable.
36:49
Speaker 12: You can't just hurt people, and it causes two types
36:53
Speaker 12: of harm. It not only hurts the paramedic but also
36:56
Speaker 12: prevents them from helping other people, especially at this time
36:59
Speaker 12: of year. That's a really bad thing and there should
37:01
Speaker 12: be people should be held accountable for it, but also
37:03
Speaker 12: take responsibility for their own actions and not just lash
37:07
Speaker 12: out at people.
37:08
Speaker 2: Well, David, let's have a look at twenty twenty six.
37:12
Speaker 2: It's a big year in Victoria with the state election.
37:15
Speaker 2: I'd love to get your thoughts on what you think
37:17
Speaker 2: of opposition leader Jess Wilson's performance since taking the role.
37:24
Speaker 12: Look, I haven't spoken with her a lot yet. Look,
37:28
Speaker 12: they're trying to change focus a bit, I think, but
37:31
Speaker 12: ultimately they need to differentiate hard from labor and I'm
37:35
Speaker 12: not sure that that's happened yet. They haven't taken a
37:38
Speaker 12: position on things like net zero. They haven't done many
37:42
Speaker 12: things in my view, so I think that they've got
37:44
Speaker 12: a long way to go if they want to actually,
37:47
Speaker 12: you know, form government.
37:49
Speaker 2: It just baffles me, though, David, when you see the
37:52
Speaker 2: state of Victoria that the Liberals just aren't dominating in
37:56
Speaker 2: the polls to try and get this Allen government out.
37:58
Speaker 3: But what do you.
37:59
Speaker 2: Predict with the key issues for voters going into that
38:02
Speaker 2: election next year.
38:07
Speaker 12: Well, firstly, there's crime, because people feel unsafe, so they
38:10
Speaker 12: want to make sure that they live in a society
38:12
Speaker 12: that they feel safe in. So I think crime will
38:14
Speaker 12: be a big one. But also the classic stuff will
38:17
Speaker 12: be around housing, taxes, and I think a big one
38:20
Speaker 12: is going to be state debt. Our debt in Victoria
38:23
Speaker 12: is out of control and it's unsustainable, and so if
38:27
Speaker 12: the Victorian Government doesn't, if the Treasurer doesn't take drastic
38:31
Speaker 12: action to correct that in the next budget, I think
38:34
Speaker 12: it needs to be a big issue. And the Liberal
38:37
Speaker 12: Party and the Libertarian Party are going to be differentiating
38:40
Speaker 12: heavily on that because we want to cut spending. We
38:43
Speaker 12: think that a big thing that needs to happen is
38:45
Speaker 12: there needs to be a dramatic cut in the size
38:47
Speaker 12: of the expenditure of the Victorian government, and both the
38:50
Speaker 12: major parties don't want to talk about that.
38:53
Speaker 3: You're absolutely right there, David.
38:54
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time this evening. I
38:57
Speaker 2: really appreciate it. Go and have a fantastic New Ye's Eve.
39:00
Speaker 2: Well after the break, the panel joins me to discuss
39:02
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister's New Year's Address, plus the East Safety
39:06
Speaker 2: Commissioner has urged to testify before the US Senate. Why
39:10
Speaker 2: is Australia's online regulator now under scrutiny?
39:17
Speaker 3: Welcome back to the program.
39:19
Speaker 2: Joining me now is verb Communications at PERU, MacSween and
39:23
Speaker 2: step Mate Studios. Mark Nicholson. Thank you both for joining
39:27
Speaker 2: me on New Year's Eve. Mark, Let's start with you.
39:31
Speaker 2: The Prime Minister has delivered his New Year's address.
39:34
Speaker 3: Let's take a quick snippet.
39:38
Speaker 4: Of course, right now, the joy that we usually feel
39:42
Speaker 4: the start of a new year is tempered by the
39:44
Speaker 4: sadness of the old following the terror inflicted on Jewish
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Speaker 4: Australians at Bondo Beach. Our hearts ache for every life
39:53
Speaker 4: lost and every life changed forever. Yeah, what BONDI also
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Speaker 4: showed us was the best did the Australian spirit.
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Speaker 3: So what did you make of Albanese's words?
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Speaker 13: Yeah, I watched the whole thing. I found it all
40:11
Speaker 13: pretty pretty lackluster, to be honest, pretty pretty weak. I
40:15
Speaker 13: thought it was, and I just keep piling on elbow,
40:17
Speaker 13: But I just thought it it just came across like
40:19
Speaker 13: overthought sort of damage control, which is, you know, what
40:22
Speaker 13: we come to expect with this bike. He spent the
40:24
Speaker 13: next bit of the speech sort of talking about how
40:25
Speaker 13: we all needed to not be divided and we all
40:27
Speaker 13: needed to you know, come together, and all this sort
40:30
Speaker 13: of over sanctimonious sort of stuff that I don't think
40:32
Speaker 13: he believed. He read it like it was a book report.
40:35
Speaker 13: And the thing is, if he was living in the
40:37
Speaker 13: real world, I honestly, I've never seen Australia more united.
40:41
Speaker 13: Everyone is, everyone is together, everyone is united in this
40:44
Speaker 13: idea that everyone hates Elbow at the moment, I swear
40:46
Speaker 13: everyone everyone.
40:47
Speaker 3: Is on the same boat.
40:48
Speaker 13: They're just like Jeezy seems weak. Even his own ministers
40:51
Speaker 13: are saying it. I don't think Toto Toto, his own
40:53
Speaker 13: dog is probably not wagging his tail every time Albany's
40:56
Speaker 13: he walks into the room. We are so united at
40:58
Speaker 13: the moment. So I just felt like it sort of
41:01
Speaker 13: misread the thing you just like I said, he read
41:03
Speaker 13: it like a kid reading a book report. It was really,
41:06
Speaker 13: like I said, I don't come to expect anything better
41:08
Speaker 13: from our Prime Minister at the moment.
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Speaker 3: Well, Prue, what's your take on the PM's address today.
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Speaker 14: Well, Jamie, you talked about courage and compassion, yet he
41:17
Speaker 14: hasn't got the courage to do the investigation that we
41:20
Speaker 14: all demand, and is showing no compassion for the victims,
41:25
Speaker 14: their families and in fact for the whole Jewish community
41:30
Speaker 14: and the Australian community who are in sympathy with what
41:34
Speaker 14: has gone on for so long, and I just find.
41:37
Speaker 3: It it's all theater.
41:38
Speaker 14: It's a performance. He's a really bad leading actor in
41:41
Speaker 14: his morning cast of Burke and Wong and Bowen. You know,
41:46
Speaker 14: they're just a disgrace and a bunch of amateurs. And
41:49
Speaker 14: I just find the whole thing very insulting.
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Speaker 3: Sad to see.
41:53
Speaker 2: We'll have to keep watching this space and Mark, let's
41:56
Speaker 2: take a look at tonight and Sydney CBD has been
41:59
Speaker 2: placed under heightened security ahead of New Year's Eve, and
42:03
Speaker 2: authorities have moved to reassure a shaken public. And in
42:06
Speaker 2: Martin Place there's been large concrete ballards have been installed. Now, well,
42:11
Speaker 2: this isn't a site we used to How important is
42:14
Speaker 2: it though, to still get out and celebrate with family
42:17
Speaker 2: and friends and not let terror.
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Speaker 13: Win one hundred percent. It's it's just the sad reality, unfortunately,
42:26
Speaker 13: And I think it's not it's not actually the guns
42:27
Speaker 13: that people are actually scared of. So it's not the
42:30
Speaker 13: rifles that people are scared of. I think they're actually
42:32
Speaker 13: more scared of the fact that it's sort of thinking
42:34
Speaker 13: in that this is Australia now, and this is this
42:37
Speaker 13: is the long term strategy, This is just that this
42:39
Speaker 13: is the end result of the long term strategy. You know,
42:42
Speaker 13: I used to work in criminal justice, and there's an
42:44
Speaker 13: old saying that we used to have, which is that basically,
42:46
Speaker 13: society you get as much crime as you put up with.
42:49
Speaker 13: And the sad reality is we've put up with a
42:50
Speaker 13: whole lot up until this point. So I think it's
42:53
Speaker 13: is chickens coming home to roost, and it's really sad.
42:57
Speaker 1: It's it's sad.
42:57
Speaker 13: Because it's also an admission that I think this is
43:00
Speaker 13: the reality of what they knew already is that we
43:02
Speaker 13: weren't one hundred percent safe. It's sort of like the
43:04
Speaker 13: equivalent of when you go for an X ray and
43:06
Speaker 13: they tell you don't worry, you'll be fine, and then
43:08
Speaker 13: the person gets behind this big concrete box and just like,
43:10
Speaker 13: don't worry, you'll be safe, enjoy yourselves, have a good time.
43:13
Speaker 13: It's sort of the same thing.
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Speaker 1: I think they knew.
43:15
Speaker 13: We were kind of we're in trouble up until now,
43:17
Speaker 13: and now we've got to put up with this sort
43:18
Speaker 13: of stuff.
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Speaker 2: And prou the premiere has warned that larger security it's
43:24
Speaker 2: here to stay. With police visibly carrying heavier weapons, how
43:29
Speaker 2: should the public balance safety with the kind of society
43:32
Speaker 2: that we want to live in.
43:34
Speaker 14: Well, it's going to be very very hard, and there
43:36
Speaker 14: are a lot of people who are now so fearful
43:39
Speaker 14: and when you look around at you know, armed police bollards.
43:43
Speaker 14: The fact that we have these warnings this was not
43:46
Speaker 14: the country we grew up in and the resentment that
43:50
Speaker 14: this has happened, and largely because of blinkered, incompetent and
43:55
Speaker 14: self interested politicians who have not done the right thing
43:59
Speaker 14: have created this Smiths and you know, we have mass migration,
44:03
Speaker 14: indiscriminate migration, and you know, we're now finding ourselves in
44:07
Speaker 14: a very sad situation.
44:09
Speaker 1: We've lost the Australia we all once loved.
44:13
Speaker 2: Well Mark Australia's E Safety Commissioner, Julie Inman Grant has
44:18
Speaker 2: been asked to testify in the US. Now this is
44:21
Speaker 2: over allegations that the regulator harassed American tech companies and
44:27
Speaker 2: attempted to implement a global censorship regime. Now this is voluntary,
44:32
Speaker 2: so it's unlikely at this stage anyway that missus mcgrant
44:36
Speaker 2: will actually go.
44:37
Speaker 3: But what do you make of this summons?
44:42
Speaker 13: Yeah, you're spot on. She's definitely not going to go
44:45
Speaker 13: because she's not going to do it, or even though
44:47
Speaker 13: this would be about the only time ever as a taxpayer,
44:50
Speaker 13: I would be happy to pay for her to go
44:52
Speaker 13: over there and just get grilled. I would love to
44:54
Speaker 13: watch that every It would be worth every penny to
44:56
Speaker 13: see her sitting there getting grilled. And to be honest,
44:58
Speaker 13: we needed someone to do it. Our parliament didn't. Both
45:02
Speaker 13: parties didn't do much to scrutinize the East Safety Commissioner.
45:06
Speaker 13: We did an episode on it for Please Explain, Pauline
45:08
Speaker 13: Hansen asked a lot of questions about it, but we
45:11
Speaker 13: honestly there was not much debate around the East Safety
45:14
Speaker 13: Commissioner and it's incredibly dangerous.
45:16
Speaker 1: So hopefully even.
45:18
Speaker 13: Just this, even just this request, can get a little
45:21
Speaker 13: bit more news coverage around it and get a few
45:23
Speaker 13: more people talking about it, because it is incredibly dangerous
45:25
Speaker 13: what she's up to.
45:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's your opinion, Preu.
45:29
Speaker 14: I think it's total overreach, you know. I think America
45:32
Speaker 14: has every right to question her and to resist it.
45:36
Speaker 14: You know, that's part of their First Amendment free speech,
45:39
Speaker 14: And I just think she's trying to just impact, you know,
45:43
Speaker 14: put this you know, globally, when really a lot and
45:47
Speaker 14: a lot of countries are looking and thinking of adopting it.
45:50
Speaker 14: But to me, she has overstepped the mark, and I
45:53
Speaker 14: just feel that, you know, good on them for trying
45:56
Speaker 14: to compel her. She is a US citizen, so she
45:58
Speaker 14: should be compelled to go there, But whether she does
46:01
Speaker 14: do it will be another question.
46:03
Speaker 9: I suppose.
46:05
Speaker 2: Now, I've got a question that's going to be for
46:07
Speaker 2: both of you, because I saw this and I thought, Ah,
46:10
Speaker 2: this is the world that we live in now. But
46:13
Speaker 2: desperate job seekers ditching LinkedIn in favor of a new
46:18
Speaker 2: networking source dating apps.
46:21
Speaker 3: So about a third of dating.
46:22
Speaker 2: App users said that they had looked for matches based
46:25
Speaker 2: on the prospect of getting a career help from them.
46:28
Speaker 2: Is this now the way of the future to now
46:30
Speaker 2: find a job but also maybe love at the first time?
46:34
Speaker 3: Mark? What do you think?
46:39
Speaker 13: All I know is I'd be stuffed. I'd be absolutely stuffed.
46:42
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it.
46:43
Speaker 13: Back when I was using dating apps fifteen years ago,
46:46
Speaker 13: I didn't have a clue what I was doing. I
46:48
Speaker 13: couldn't bag a three, let alone get myself a job
46:50
Speaker 13: on there. There's not a chance in the world i'd
46:52
Speaker 13: know how to navigate dating apps and jobs. Thank god,
46:56
Speaker 13: I'm happily married and it's currently employed, thank god.
47:00
Speaker 3: And preu, what about yourself.
47:02
Speaker 14: Well, it's a modern take on a casting couch, isn't
47:05
Speaker 14: it really? But I've got to say, if I was
47:07
Speaker 14: swiping right and you know, and someone was putting the
47:12
Speaker 14: bite on me to get them a job, I'd be
47:14
Speaker 14: really thinking, you know, is this the person I want
47:16
Speaker 14: in my life? So it's a very questionable desperate thing,
47:19
Speaker 14: I think.
47:20
Speaker 2: Well, pro apparently it's actually quite successful that people that
47:24
Speaker 2: have gone out and looked for jobs through the dating
47:26
Speaker 2: apps they've ended up finding jobs through it.
47:28
Speaker 3: So this might be the new LinkedIn.
47:31
Speaker 14: Well not for me, thank you, thanks very much, but yeah,
47:34
Speaker 14: good on them. I suppose if you're desperate enough, you'll
47:36
Speaker 14: do anything.
47:38
Speaker 2: And mark, just really quickly before we go, I wanted
47:41
Speaker 2: to get your thoughts just on Pauline Hansen, who has
47:44
Speaker 2: become one of the more likable politicians. You've obviously done
47:48
Speaker 2: some work with her. What did you make of the polls?
47:53
Speaker 6: Mate?
47:54
Speaker 13: It's she's the best, she's the absolute best, and they're
47:57
Speaker 13: they're they're surging, and it's and it's deservedly, So I
48:00
Speaker 13: think it's people criticize her for they've been saying she's
48:03
Speaker 13: far right. I think it's finally settling in that everyone
48:06
Speaker 13: knows that she's just right so far, that's the answer.
48:08
Speaker 13: So I think people are coming around and she's she
48:11
Speaker 13: absolutely deserves she's a legend.
48:14
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much at Prue and Mark, I
48:16
Speaker 2: really appreciate your time here on New Year's Eve. Go
48:19
Speaker 2: out and have a fantastic night. Well, thank you for
48:24
Speaker 2: your company this evening. I hope you have a wonderful
48:27
Speaker 2: New Year's Eve and we'll see you right back here
48:29
Speaker 2: tomorrow night.
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Speaker 3: At six o'clock.
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Speaker 2: The Bolt Report is up next with kel Richard's Good Evening,