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Eye Opener Releasing What Isn't Yours From Dr Laurel Parnell Multi Dimensional Tools · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: Absolutely fantastic and very excited to share a conversation with
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  Speaker 1: you because you're tapping into something here that is so
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  Speaker 1: important to these moments that people are having but they
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  Speaker 1: have no explanation as to why they're going on fantastic
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  Speaker 1: so you've read my book You have to activate the book.
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  Speaker 1: And I want listeners to understand that this is not
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  Speaker 1: just a book that you just sit down and you
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  Speaker 1: read 10 or even five or 10 pages. You really
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  Speaker 1: do have to start really digging in and seeing how,
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  Speaker 1: how can I activate this message and get onto a
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  Speaker 1: better path of choices?
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  Speaker 2: Sounds good. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: What led you to this area? Is it because you're
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  Speaker 1: a silent watcher and you observe people and you realize,
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  Speaker 1: oh my God, there's something going on here. What can
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  Speaker 1: I do as a person? to help get people back
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  Speaker 1: in tune?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm a clinical psychologist and I'm a longtime meditation practitioner.
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  Speaker 2: So all of this just made sense.
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  Speaker 3: And so it's really looking at broader perspective in terms
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  Speaker 3: of what's going on with an individual beyond what is
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  Speaker 3: their psychological makeup and what happened to them, but this
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  Speaker 3: bigger view of what else might be going on that's
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  Speaker 3: causing them difficulty.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean, I think one of the things
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  Speaker 1: that I hear all the time about meditation is, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's too noisy. My mind is too busy. They give
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  Speaker 1: me every excuse in the world to And I sit
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  Speaker 1: there and I go, okay, so is the reason why
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  Speaker 1: people don't meditate because it's work and that you really
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  Speaker 1: do have, it is a practice is what you have
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  Speaker 1: to do?
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  Speaker 3: Well, meditation is a practice. And I think what we
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  Speaker 3: want to look at is people have very different minds,
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  Speaker 3: very different minds. Some minds really, you know, Or like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, in a squirrel wheel, they're going around and
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  Speaker 3: around and around. They have a hard time calming themselves down.
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  Speaker 3: But I think some of it is, yes, there needs
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  Speaker 3: to be a discipline, a practice. It's not like there's
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  Speaker 3: a big goal that you get to. Sometimes it's just
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  Speaker 3: quieting enough that you can see that your thoughts are
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  Speaker 3: your thoughts. But I will say another thing that I
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  Speaker 3: found very important. I've been doing meditation almost all of
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  Speaker 3: my life. And for many years, I would do week-long retreats.
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  Speaker 3: And that makes a big difference. When you do a
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  Speaker 3: daily practice, maybe you get your mind quiet a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: but when you do a week or longer.
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  Speaker 2: You.
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  Speaker 3: Have this place where suddenly your mind shuts down and
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  Speaker 3: there's this big sense of spaciousness and you go, wow,
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  Speaker 3: that's what they're talking about. Where you can see your
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  Speaker 3: thoughts bubbling up from silence and you can see them
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  Speaker 3: as thoughts, not as connected to you anymore. So I
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  Speaker 3: think longer retreats make a big difference, especially silent retreats.
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  Speaker 3: And then having a regular sitting practice makes a huge difference.
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  Speaker 1: I believe that meditation also takes you to different levels
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  Speaker 1: of what it is because I swear that on my
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  Speaker 1: walks through this beautiful forest, I'm meditating. I swear that
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  Speaker 1: when I'm with a lot of people around me, even
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  Speaker 1: though I'm standing up and my eyes are wide open,
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  Speaker 1: I'm meditating. That you can learn how to meditate and
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  Speaker 1: go to that space even when the world feels like
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  Speaker 1: it's caving in around you.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I feel like nature is extremely important. It connects
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  Speaker 3: us to something very essential.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: And I think when we can open our senses to nature,
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  Speaker 3: we can really hear the sounds.
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  Speaker 2: Of the birds.
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  Speaker 3: We can feel the earth beneath our feet.
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  Speaker 2: We can really pick that up.
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  Speaker 3: It sends us into a place of deep calm and
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  Speaker 3: rootedness and connection with life. And I think walking, as
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  Speaker 3: you may know, I'm really big on bilateral stimulation. This
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  Speaker 3: is part of EMDR. It's part of resource tapping. What
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  Speaker 3: that does is it also.
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  Speaker 2: Settles the mind.
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  Speaker 3: So alternating bilateral stimulation is a way to calm the
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  Speaker 3: mind down. And walking is bilateral stimulation. So I think
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  Speaker 3: walking is settling your nervous system down just through that
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  Speaker 3: bilateral stimulation. And then the connection with the natural world
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  Speaker 3: and nature is helping to bring that more fully in.
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  Speaker 3: It's a way it's resourcing us and helping us to
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  Speaker 3: take it in more fully by using the bilateral stimulation.
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  Speaker 1: The book we're talking about is Releasing What Isn't Yours.
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  Speaker 1: And I've been accused many times of looking at people saying,
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  Speaker 1: quit being Mrs.
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  Speaker 2: Kravitz.
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  Speaker 1: Now, they don't understand that term unless you watch Bewitched
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  Speaker 1: growing up. But it seems like we want to put
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  Speaker 1: our nose where it doesn't belong every single time. Releasing
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  Speaker 1: What Isn't Yours. I love this book because I just
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  Speaker 1: wish people paid more attention to themselves.
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  Speaker 2: Well, themselves meaning what's really going on.
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  Speaker 3: And I think part of what you'll find in the
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  Speaker 3: book are ways to quiet the mind, develop what we
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  Speaker 3: call energetic sovereignty. So that's a way to ground yourself,
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  Speaker 3: create a kind of energy bubble around notice if energies
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  Speaker 3: are yours or not yours because we pick up stuff
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  Speaker 3: all the time that is not ours and then find
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  Speaker 3: a way to release it to invite it to go
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  Speaker 3: somewhere else and i think just this noticing is this
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  Speaker 3: mine or not mine and if it's not mine where
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  Speaker 3: does it belong where did it come from oh it
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  Speaker 3: was This family member who was really in a negative mood,
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  Speaker 3: I just brought their darkness into myself.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't mine. I'm going to, you know, disinvite it.
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  Speaker 3: Not with aggression or anger, but kind of compassionately, no,
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  Speaker 3: I don't need to carry this inside. A lot of
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  Speaker 3: the negativity that's happening in the world, we don't need
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  Speaker 3: to carry that inside. We feed those energies inside. So
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  Speaker 3: it's like, no, I want to be peaceful and calm
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  Speaker 3: within myself. I want to care about what's happening in
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  Speaker 3: the world, but I don't need to take it into
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  Speaker 3: my nervous system.
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  Speaker 2: I can let it go.
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  Speaker 3: And I love what you're talking about as far as nature,
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  Speaker 3: because nature is so incredibly important.
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  Speaker 2: It brings us into that place of balance.
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  Speaker 1: I go out there to learn. I do. Because I mean,
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  Speaker 1: right now, I mean, the bucks are in full movement
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  Speaker 1: right now. And if you don't think I'm not watching
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  Speaker 1: those bucks, because they're preparing for a winter that we
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  Speaker 1: can't even see yet. Even though the weathermen are saying
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  Speaker 1: that El Nino is going to be doing some damage
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  Speaker 1: this year, those bucks are getting ready for it. You
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  Speaker 1: can see it in their fur already, and summer's not
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  Speaker 1: even over yet.
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  Speaker 3: Right. Well, where I am in California, we've got a
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  Speaker 3: lot of fawns and even some late-birth fawns, and they're
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  Speaker 3: just adorable. So we've got does and fawns, and where
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  Speaker 3: I live also, we have a lot of turkeys, so
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  Speaker 3: there's turkeys all over the place.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you really touch on something that, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: and this book speaks out to me. It's almost like,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much for paying attention because she's talking
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  Speaker 1: about everything that you learned in this book. And I
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  Speaker 1: love that about you, that you've had the confidence to
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  Speaker 1: do this. Shamanic energy clearing. And I want people to
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  Speaker 1: understand what this is and that it's not going to
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  Speaker 1: be something, oh, you got a blue eyes to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Go do your research on this or go to this
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  Speaker 1: book and find out what Dr. Laurel is doing.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: You know, a big part of this is so what
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  Speaker 3: I found and I so I'm an EMDR trainer. I
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  Speaker 3: teach people all over the world how to do this
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  Speaker 3: very powerful trauma therapy.
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  Speaker 2: And I've also traveled.
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  Speaker 3: I travel for teaching, but I've also traveled because I
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  Speaker 3: love to travel and I love to.
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  Speaker 2: Experience cultures all over the world.
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  Speaker 3: And what I've seen is there's so many commonalities. There
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  Speaker 3: are certain practices that are used everywhere, especially among indigenous people.
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  Speaker 3: And one of them has to do with energy cleansing.
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  Speaker 3: And this has to do with using water, using, could
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  Speaker 3: be smoke. Indigenous people of the Americas use tobacco smoke
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  Speaker 3: or sage. In the Amazon where I travel, they use
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  Speaker 3: tobacco smoke. They use plants to brush you with. And
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  Speaker 3: if you look at what was happening in Northern Europe,
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  Speaker 3: very similar practices. And so What we recognize is that
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  Speaker 3: people have always known that we need to clear energies
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  Speaker 3: off of our systems because we carry them with us.
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  Speaker 3: And what's happened in our American and European psychological way
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  Speaker 3: of viewing things is they don't recognize this.
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  Speaker 2: They don't recognize that.
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  Speaker 3: There are energies that we can carry that are not ours,
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  Speaker 3: that don't come from our own personal histories, that we've
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  Speaker 3: just picked up. Some people are more sensitive to this
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  Speaker 3: than other people. But what we want to do is
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  Speaker 3: we want to be aware of this. And we want
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  Speaker 3: to do kind of like basic energetic hygiene, ways to
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  Speaker 3: kind of clear this out, release it from us so
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  Speaker 3: that we're not carrying this into our day and into
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  Speaker 3: our families. I'm a clinical psychologist. Many of us work
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  Speaker 3: with trauma. At the end of the day, we can
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  Speaker 3: feel like, oh, I feel like I've taken in all
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  Speaker 3: this stuff from people I've worked with. Especially after with COVID,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of the health professionals were really getting burned
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  Speaker 3: out because they were carrying so much of the trauma,
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  Speaker 3: so much of the distress from people they've been working with. Well,
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  Speaker 3: there are ways to clear this out of your system
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  Speaker 3: so you don't carry it into the rest of your life.
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  Speaker 3: And it's not like the... are bad people that have
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  Speaker 3: done this to me. It's just what happens when we're
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  Speaker 3: around things. And so this is where these things can
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  Speaker 3: be cleared. They're very simple practices that can be done.
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  Speaker 3: And then just to become aware of them, to become
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  Speaker 3: aware that this is something we need to do regularly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, see, I totally agree with this in the way
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  Speaker 1: that we are a sponge. And man, everything you just
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  Speaker 1: talked about is the same thing that I want to
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  Speaker 1: grow with in studying preachers and teachers and these people
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  Speaker 1: that are givers. Because I can give, give, give all day,
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  Speaker 1: but what you're not going to see is my post-production
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  Speaker 1: blues on the other side when that giving has made
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  Speaker 1: me so damn empty. And this book gives me that
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to really start going, hey, look, that doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: you disappeared, dude. You gave because you had. Now go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and learn more about this giving and see if
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  Speaker 1: you can get something from somebody else. But don't put
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  Speaker 1: the pressure on that person because they might not be
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  Speaker 1: ready for it.
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  Speaker 2: Right, right. So it's not like somebody's taking from you.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right.
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  Speaker 3: It's really this whole idea of developing energetic sovereignty is
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  Speaker 3: that each of us has a right to develop our
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  Speaker 3: own energetic sovereignty. And so what was really revelatory for
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  Speaker 3: me is realizing that I can have.
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  Speaker 2: My own energy, my own energy bubble, and my own.
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  Speaker 3: Energetic sovereignty, and still feel compassion and empathy for another
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  Speaker 3: person without merging with them. I was merging with people
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  Speaker 3: all the time in order to feel with them. And
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  Speaker 3: I didn't realize I was doing that.
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  Speaker 2: So that.
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  Speaker 3: My energy bubble was merging with other people's in order
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  Speaker 3: for me to to feel empathy. So now I can
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  Speaker 3: pull my energy bubble back to what's about a foot
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  Speaker 3: around me. I can be contained within my own. I
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  Speaker 3: can connect with my own resources. So we talk about
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  Speaker 3: the four foundational resources and other resources that can support us.
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  Speaker 3: I've got my resources around me. And then I can
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  Speaker 3: connect with another person with compassion and empathy without merging.
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  Speaker 2: Now that was really, really powerful.
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  Speaker 3: And I think for people in the helping professions, This
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  Speaker 3: is something to really learn and develop so that we
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  Speaker 3: don't get burned out by the work we do.
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  Speaker 1: I chuckle on the inside because one of the things
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  Speaker 1: that I did in 2020, because I felt like my
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  Speaker 1: calling as a martial artist and as somebody who's very
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  Speaker 1: much into the spiritual world, is that you need to
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  Speaker 1: go be with real people. You don't know who they are.
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  Speaker 1: And so I went to a grocery store to learn
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  Speaker 1: about that. And, and, and, and the, you're right about
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  Speaker 1: that word empathy. If you're not living it, you don't
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  Speaker 1: know it. And, and I've had more people tell me
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  Speaker 1: in the upper ranks of the store, shut up. They
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  Speaker 1: don't care. We don't care. Get them out of the store.
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  Speaker 1: And I look at them and I go, don't listen
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  Speaker 1: to them. It's empathy that you're studying. You're being called
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  Speaker 1: to this. People want to be seen as well as heard.
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  Speaker 1: Give it to them. And, and, and, and I, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if I get fired, I don't care because I'm doing,
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  Speaker 1: and I learned this kind of stuff from books like
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  Speaker 1: yours where, Because you're helping me understand I'm not so wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not. And neither are the other people around me
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  Speaker 1: when you study this book that you've given us.
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  Speaker 3: Well, when you when you connect with people, and I
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  Speaker 3: think especially these days, it's kind of like the post-COVID world.
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  Speaker 3: People have gotten very isolated and they're longing for connection.
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  Speaker 3: So we can connect with one another. We can smile,
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  Speaker 3: say hello. People are so shut down in America. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: as I travel to a lot of different places, I
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  Speaker 3: was in Indonesia very recently. And everywhere I went, people
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  Speaker 3: would smile and say hello.
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  Speaker 2: And wow, what a difference that makes.
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  Speaker 3: Then, you know, averting your gaze and not connecting with
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  Speaker 3: another person. But somebody just looks at you and says
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  Speaker 3: hello and hello.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, you feel good already. It begins to make your
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  Speaker 2: day because you've.
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  Speaker 3: Taken in this positive, this kind of positive feelings, positive energy.
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  Speaker 3: If somebody is kind of scowling at you or looking
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  Speaker 3: away or afraid, I think, you know, in the U
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  Speaker 3: S in particular, people are very afraid of each other.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what, what that's all about, but, but
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  Speaker 3: there really is a very different energy here than there
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  Speaker 3: is in other parts of the world.
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  Speaker 2: And I suspect it's fear-based right now. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I haven't studied it or anything, but, But
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  Speaker 3: there really is a difference. But how I feel when
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  Speaker 3: I'm around somebody who smiles at me and says hello
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  Speaker 3: versus somebody who just ignores me.
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  Speaker 2: And I love what you were doing at the grocery store.
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  Speaker 3: If I'm at a grocery store and somebody is, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the checkout stand, it's, you know, says, hi, how are
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  Speaker 3: you doing?
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  Speaker 2: How's your day? Boy, you feel good. You feel like
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  Speaker 2: you've been seeing.
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  Speaker 1: Please do not move. We'll be right back with Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Laurel Parnell. The name of the book, Releasing What Isn't Yours.
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  Speaker 1: We are back with Dr. Laurel Parnell. Yeah, my favorite
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  Speaker 1: person to bump into is the grumpy old man or
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  Speaker 1: the woman who is grumpy. And people up there at
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  Speaker 1: the customer service desk will go, oh my God, I'm
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  Speaker 1: staying away from them. And I go, watch this. And
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  Speaker 1: I'll go, and I guarantee when they walk out of
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  Speaker 1: that store, that person and I are sharing some of
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  Speaker 1: the deepest laughs. It's because they just want to be heard.
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  Speaker 1: That's all. They just want to be heard.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And it's such a great experience. But the question is,
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  Speaker 1: how do you teach that? Well, I rely on people
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  Speaker 1: like you, doctor, because I know that I really do
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  Speaker 1: because I'm going, she's going to speak my street. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to go get this book. This book right here
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  Speaker 1: is exactly what I'm doing. This is it right here.
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  Speaker 1: So and then they go, oh, I didn't know. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know. So I really do rely on people like yourself, doctor.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's great. I appreciate it. And, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 2: coming from.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's hard to say how much experience I have,
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  Speaker 3: but I've been working as a clinical psychologist for over
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  Speaker 3: 40 years. I've been doing meditation practice for like 50
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  Speaker 3: years since I was in high school.
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  Speaker 2: And this is what I live. I live and breathe this.
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  Speaker 3: I've worked with some of the most traumatized people you're
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  Speaker 3: ever going to hear about. And I know how to
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  Speaker 3: help people. What I do is EMDR, which is one
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  Speaker 3: of the most powerful trauma therapies there is. And I
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  Speaker 3: also know how to do what we call resource tapping,
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  Speaker 3: which is the use of imagination to activate these inner
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  Speaker 3: resources we have.
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  Speaker 2: And then we add short.
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  Speaker 3: Amounts of bilateral stimulation to link the resource in so
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  Speaker 3: you have it available to you. So just those two
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  Speaker 3: things for working with trauma, they work so well for
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  Speaker 3: all kinds of people.
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  Speaker 1: But you know that people won't admit it today, but
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  Speaker 1: we are in trauma in this country and this generation.
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  Speaker 1: They just won't admit it. They're expecting really big, bad
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  Speaker 1: bombs and things like that to go off when, in fact, mentally,
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  Speaker 1: we are a mess right now.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I think it is. And, you know, this
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  Speaker 2: has made me think about it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, having I was just in Singapore, Indonesia and
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  Speaker 3: Vietnam just recently, like the last month or so. And
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  Speaker 3: this whole view that you just described is in America.
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  Speaker 3: It's not everywhere in the world. And I think it
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  Speaker 3: may be media cause. It may be what people are
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  Speaker 3: listening to. And talk about energy. We are inviting in
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  Speaker 3: this negative view.
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  Speaker 2: Of things constantly.
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  Speaker 3: So it's feeding this kind of negativity and this fear
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  Speaker 3: and this anxiety that's just growing and growing and growing.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not saying bad things aren't happening. But if
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  Speaker 3: you look at history, this is nothing compared to what
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  Speaker 3: people have lived with historically. But you wouldn't know that
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  Speaker 3: because there's such catastrophic feelings.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm not saying to ignore it.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: That when you feed negativity, it just grows and grows
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: and grows and it begins to kind of take over
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: your nervous system. So I think we want to balance
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: that with connecting to. things that are going to resource us,
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: that are going to fill us, they're going to make
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: us feel loved and connected and happy. So it's not
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: to ignore the other, but we have to have balance.
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  Speaker 3: And I suspect that there's something going on. Maybe it's,
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: you know, what you get more clicks if it's something negative,
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  Speaker 3: or there's something that's happening in our country that is
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  Speaker 3: kind of poisoning, poisoning people in terms of creating this
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  Speaker 3: negative view.
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  Speaker 2: We really aren't in such bad shape.
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  Speaker 3: Bad things are happening, but it's not catastrophic in the
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  Speaker 3: way it feels here.
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  Speaker 1: See, that's interesting that you say that, because you're absolutely right,
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  Speaker 1: spot on with that, because my mother and my father,
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  Speaker 1: who came from the silent generation, World Wars I and II,
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  Speaker 1: I do make it very public, and I tell people,
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  Speaker 1: I want to sit down with my mom again and
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: compare notes. And every one of those people that are
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: 75 to 95 years old, they look at me, these
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: older people do, and say, Dude, you have no idea
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: and you have nothing to compare to your mom and dad.
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  Speaker 1: And that wakes me up like you wouldn't believe because
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: they are post my mom and dad. I'm way up
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: here in a different generation. They're going to know more answers,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: but at least we got the conversation going there, doctor.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there you are.
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  Speaker 3: And I think part of what we have in America,
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  Speaker 3: I imagine this is an American audience. We have a
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  Speaker 3: very small, narrow view of history. I mean, our country,
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  Speaker 3: we have a baby country compared to Europe, compared to Asia,
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  Speaker 3: compared to.
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  Speaker 2: You know, so much of the world.
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  Speaker 3: We have a very, very short history, except for indigenous
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  Speaker 3: peoples who've been here a very long time. So in
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  Speaker 3: terms of this little narrow view of history here, this
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: looks like a really bad time.
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  Speaker 2: But if this bigger, the bigger, bigger view of things,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: this is so small.
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  Speaker 3: As you said, World War II, World War I, some
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: people lived through both of those wars in Europe. And
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: their view is like the devastation that happened throughout Europe was,
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: it was horrific. And then the ripple effect that came
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: out afterwards in terms of the generalization that followed because
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: of parents who had gone through those wars so no
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: this is you know I'm sure your parents and others
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: from those generations kind of look at you know this
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: generation now and they kind of laugh this is not
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: trauma I mean we're using the word trauma on everything
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  Speaker 3: and that's just not There's a lot of fear and
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: there's an amplification of things now in this kind of
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: echo chamber of negativity. So there's something else that's going
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: on right now that's creating such a negative view of things.
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  Speaker 2: I think we want to pay attention to.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, you're so spot on. One of the
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: things that I really, my wake up call was the
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: last samurai with Tom Cruise. And that's where I realized
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: that as he went over there to study the samurai
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: and in the world of Asian culture, and he came
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: back to the United States, there was so much that
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: was identical that to me, it made me think, you
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: need to be studying what they're doing on that side
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: of the planet. And I started realizing religion, indigenous people,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: everything was basically the same story. It was connected. Therefore,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: all people are equal. And therefore, we should have not
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: one drop of judgment because we're all living the story.
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  Speaker 3: And the connection to old.
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  Speaker 2: Ways of viewing things.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: There's a unification of that.
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  Speaker 3: This is kind of what I call multidimensional integrative healing.
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  Speaker 2: It's this bigger view. It's like getting the camera and
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: then getting the lens as wide as possible. That takes
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: us into history.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: That takes us through countries all over the world, that
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: takes us beyond our very small mind view.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: And when you open that up, you go, wow, I've
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: been this very.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Small, tight space. looking at things in a very narrow way.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: There's a much bigger way to look at everything. Wow.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about you?
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Because we're just barely scratching the surface. I want them
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: to have the book, but I want them to know
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: why they have the book and how they can activate
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: the book. And learning from you is that first step
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: of a brand new beginning for them.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Well, the book is Releasing What Isn't Yours, Living from
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Your True Self Through Multidimensional Integrative Healing.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: My website is parnellemdr.com.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: And I have workshops. I have trainings. And my book
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: is also an audio book. So you can read it
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: if you want to read it. but you can also
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: listen to it on Audible and these other ways you
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: can listen to books.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Well, Audible is my way to go, and I'm going
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: to give them a big plug because they have always
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: been so faithful to me, and they're always there. That's
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: what I love about Audible, and I love you for
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: even being a part of that because that is the
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: true connection.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Well, please come back to this show anytime. As you
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: can tell, this is my kind of subject to dive into.
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  Speaker 2: This is great. I so appreciate speaking with you.
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  Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you.