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Slay The Dragon !! · GAS MONEY

• 0:10
  SPEAKER_02: We're still alive.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_03: Before we start.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_02: I absolutely hate you guys.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_00: I smell bullshit.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_00: This is crazy.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_02: These guys are being rude and disrespectful.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_02: Welcome to another installment of Gas Money Podcast.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_02: Gas attendants, thank you guys for all your help.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_02: Running up the cliffs, running up the subs.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_02: We appreciate y'all.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_02: Follow us on all socials at gas.money.podcast.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_02: And of course, we have Mr.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_02: Candle guy, Charlie, in the building.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_02: This is his pod now.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm actually gonna give him a round of applause before he even says anything.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_02: You tell me when.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't I didn't oh you wanted to keep going.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_02: No, my fault.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, man.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_02: Let me set the move.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_02: Can I set the move for the for the gas attendants a little bit?
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_02: You know, you can't have uh anyway.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_02: Uh to my far left or right, whatever, whichever you go.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_02: I'm used to passing the blunt to the left hand.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I don't even know you smoked.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_02: Used to, used to.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_02: Um, Mike.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_02: Mike says in the building.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_02: What is it?
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_02: I gotta give him, you know, you gotta give him some.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_02: What up, whatever, whatever?
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_02: Cut it, cut it, cut it, cut it.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_00: Damn.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, his his with the Charlettes.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're right, right.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Charlie and the Charlettes.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_02: You like the aroma?
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_02: You like it?
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we already have a candle going.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_02: I can't.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_02: We do.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_02: I just lit one.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_02: Gotcha.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_02: No problem.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_02: It's okay.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it has not hit me yet, but you know, we're gonna leave it.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_02: What's the aroma you going for?
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um, this is called uh cactus blossom.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_02: So you're gonna do like a new candle every episode?
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_02: Or are you just gonna wait till that burns out and then another?
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_02: Like how you kind of wrote itself into a box, huh?
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_02: We'll see.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_02: We haven't even thought of that.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, no.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_03: We'll see.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_02: I I changed the wine, if y'all noticed.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_02: What you got now?
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_02: This is uh poppy.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_02: It's called poppy.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, poppy.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_02: So you're drinking poppy?
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm not you don't think a pause goes anywhere?
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_02: Just asking.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_02: Niggas can't drink some rock.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_02: I'll say pause now.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_02: Niggas just can't drink Ciroc, period, actually.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_02: But whatever.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I'm gonna ask you fellas about your weekends, but I have a pressing matter.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_02: So I'll let you guys go first before I take up all the airtime.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_02: Complaining, ranting, raving.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_02: Let's go, Mike.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_02: What you got?
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_02: The AG way.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_00: Uh well, this time I actually had uh a little bit more than just working like a Mexican.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_00: Uh had some baseball games.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_00: They didn't like that, by the way.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_00: They they didn't?
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_00: Damn.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love my Mexicans, bro.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_00: Damn, I didn't mean it that way.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_00: Apologize.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_00: Hold y'all.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_02: Basebase baseball.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, I had some baseball games uh the weekend.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_00: We lost, we lost, but um, it was a good game.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_00: It was a good game.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_00: Uh a lot of home runs we hit.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_00: And um we?
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_00: I ain't do shit, guys.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_02: All right, I ain't do shit.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_02: And mind you, I have no prior knowledge.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_02: I just wanna I know when niggas say we.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_02: Because if it was him, he would have said I hit the right.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_02: Right, yeah, yeah.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_02: But he said we.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's how I know he did not contribute.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right, right, right.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_00: I I I did a lot of you know videos and pictures for the guys.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_00: You know, shout out to the Braves, you know, Bronx Braves.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_00: Who's the hat?
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_00: The Bronx Braves.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_00: So you were the bull boy with a camera.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was water boy.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, you know, water boy.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_00: He's getting disrespectful.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_00: You started?
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_00: Huh?
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_00: Of course.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_00: Both games.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_01: He started.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_02: Wait, how you go from cameraman not did not um contribute or none of that to yeah, of course I started.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_02: Like, not me.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, he's bullshitting me.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I spell it.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_00: Damn.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_00: All right, well, anyways, that was my weekend.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_00: What's up?
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_00: Y'all sell jerseys?
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_00: No, but you could buy one.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_00: I could get you if you want.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_00: $45.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_02: I'm about to get a jersey, game.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_02: I'm about to fuck with the Bronx Braves jersey.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_00: Make sure it's number 29, you heard?
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think I can wear your number, bro.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_02: That's kind of crazy.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_00: That's crazy.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_02: Like, especially after that conversation we had about the girl comes at the game with the jersey.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_02: I can't do that.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_02: What's gas money's number?
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um, how much does gas cost right now?
• 4:14
  unknown: Four.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_02: Too much.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_02: Four nineteen?
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_02: Two?
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_02: Nah, the answer is just two, too much.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's too much.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_02: Too high.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_02: Too high.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_02: The gas number is pie.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_02: Three 3.14.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_02: That's nigga, we wish.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_02: But um, yeah, we'll talk about that.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_02: Charlie, talk to me, man.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_03: I already know some stories and stuff.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_03: I'm reluctant to share my experience.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_03: It's not a big deal, but I'm starting to feel picked on when I come with stories.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_03: Cause you just AG keeps telling me that it's always my fault.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_03: I I think I'm he refuses to be on my side, to give me grace.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_03: Like, he doesn't try to like play the middle.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_02: It's always like my fault.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_02: But I'll tell it anyway.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_02: Because I want the best for you, bro.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not a yes man.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_02: I went to uh I wanted some seafood.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_02: So I went to hook and reel.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_02: Why does that sound so familiar?
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_02: It's a it's a chain.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_02: There's a few.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_02: Um I usually I usually go to Monster Crab because it's like a buffet style.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_02: It's all you can eat.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_02: I'm taking notes.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_02: I like that.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_02: So, but I decided to go uh to hook and reel.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_03: It worked out for whatever reason this time.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_03: Um so on my way there, right?
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_03: I'm I'm used to living in New York, right?
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_03: I've always lived in New York.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_02: Shout out to New York.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_02: This is a very New York podcast.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_02: Y'all niggas better pay your fucking attention, right?
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um should have won my polo today, but.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_02: I was gonna go at 10.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's just not that cold.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_03: Um I didn't check what time the restaurant closed.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_03: So I aimed to get there at nine, ended up getting there at like 9.15, 9.20.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_03: But when I check on the way there, it closes at 10.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_03: Ooh, right?
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_02: Which is not bad because the last seating is at 9.45.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but you don't want to be the nigga eating the last shit in there.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_02: One, I thought it was gonna be packed because it was a weekend.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_02: So I thought it was, it was kind of dead in there.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_02: One.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_03: And two, um, I don't mind being like not the last, but you know, where it's like not too many people in there, so I don't mind that.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_03: But what I didn't like is that when I got there and we were maybe 20 minutes into the situation, we hadn't even got our food yet.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_02: They put they brought the bill.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_02: No, they didn't first first they rushed us because the bar closed at 9.45.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_02: So we had to order two drinks at one time because the bar was closing uh closing at 9.45.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_02: Fine.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_03: Um then when my drink comes out, I'm still sipping on the first drink.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_03: The music turns off.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, so now you hear everything.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_03: Oh no, I'm lying.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_03: I'm lying, that happened next.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_03: No, first the lights got brighter.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_02: Oh they hit the lights on it.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_02: They did the club shit.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_02: They hit the club shit.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, damn, like y'all could sweep a little bit while we eat with the lights dimmed.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, cool, whatever, fine.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_02: Or just waited, but cool.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_02: You was on a date?
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_02: I was I was um enjoying myself.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_02: You was by yourself?
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_02: Nah.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_03: So um so um when I when we're eating, whatever, I'm like, alright, they didn't they raised the lights.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_03: That was kind of whack.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe ten minutes later, music's off.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_02: Like, no music.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_02: Nah, it's just like the clinging clanking.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_03: Right, I was about to say, they they laughing in the bag.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_03: They you know what I'm saying?
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_03: Like they that cleaning crew, they they chillin'.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_03: The cook.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_03: Mind you, like I said, I'm enjoying myself.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_03: So this ain't the type of environment that I was trying to present, you know, for the occasion.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_03: Like I thought it was gonna be a little cool, you know, a little background music, this and that.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_03: So I just felt the way that the restaurant was playing, cut the music off, cut the lights off, and just ruined the kind of the vibe.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_03: I my my frozen margarita is melting because I'm still trying to scarf down the first one.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_03: So it's like it's just not working out.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_03: And I thought of you, AG.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_03: On the way home, I thought of you, and I said, you know what?
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_02: Was that my fault?
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_02: I promise you this is gonna sound fake because you just like chastised me, but I don't think it was your fault for two reasons.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_02: I gotcha.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_02: One, because this is New York City.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_02: When you open an establishment in New York City, this ain't Tampa, no disrespect to Tampa.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_02: This is not Atlanta, this is not Memphis, this is not Tennessee.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_02: It's a Memphis, Tennessee, whatever, same thing.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, it's not Alabama.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_02: Careful, you talk about Memphis.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_02: I gotta relax.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_02: Um there's no reason for you to be closing on a weekend at what 10 o'clock?
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_02: 10 o'clock.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_02: That is that's so disrespectful to our culture.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_02: We're the city that never sleeps, so that's on them.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_02: The only part that's kind of on you, you could have looked it up and saw earlier, but still, like as a New Yorker, you would never assume a place like an eatery is gonna close that early.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_02: Like 10 o'clock is early for a weekend.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_02: That's nuts.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_02: So I would definitely uh say that's not your fault.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_02: You are in the clears this week.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_00: You're off the hook.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're off the hook.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_02: You're off the hook.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_02: Hook and reel.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_02: I'll see what you did there.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_02: This guy's a professional, shall I tell y'all?
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_02: Shout out Mike.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_02: But um, you guys ready for my story?
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_02: I'm ready.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_02: Brace yourself.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_02: It's a long one.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_02: This is how I brace myself.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, go ahead, take a drink.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_02: Uh no, it's not that long.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so I've been uh working, obviously, and I'm stationed right now in my old hood, Corona East Umherst.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_02: Mostly Corona, most of my jobs are in Corona.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_01: Word?
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I'm like having a nostalgia hit, right?
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_02: So it's been like three days I've been working in this area.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_02: First day, the nostalgia hits me.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, damn, it's my old neighborhood.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_02: It feels great to be back.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_02: But then I'm starting to see little changes.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_02: So there's a chimmy truck that is a staple for me.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_02: Which one?
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_02: It's not there anymore.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_02: Uh on 108th Street, right in front of the laundry match.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I know what you're talking about.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_02: It used to be inside the garage.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_02: And then they put it to the street.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_02: And so it's just not there anymore at all.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, where's the chimmy truck?
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_02: That's the first thing.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_02: So as I'm spending more time there, I'm driving around, and I'm like, I don't see, and I mean no disrespect to anybody.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_02: I promise you, I don't mean no disrespect.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_02: And the way he's gonna clip this up is gonna sound like disrespect.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_02: Disrespect is coming in.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't see no black people, I don't see any Dominicans, I don't see any Puerto Ricans, all I see is Dorians.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm seeing Mexicans, oh shit, Salvadorians, Salutatorian, all the Dorians, nigga.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_02: I don't see no yo, you are disrespectful.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_02: How is that disrespectful?
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_02: Niggas at Dorians.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_02: I don't see none of my peoples.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_02: Where's me Ente?
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_02: Where's the Sakpasé?
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_02: Where's the what's going on?
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, where's yo, what's what's poppin', beloved?
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_02: I don't see none of that.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_02: Mind you, this is the neighborhood I grew up in.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_02: So when I was in elementary school, yeah, there was already a limited amount of black people.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna lie to you.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_02: So I used to get jumped in elementary school by y'all niggas, y'all Dominicans.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_02: And I I have like a fake beef with Dominicans, I'm not gonna lie to you.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_02: I was about to say this explains.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it does, it does.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_02: So I have like a fake beef with y'all because when I was growing up, y'all never considered yourselves black.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not speaking about y'all specifically.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_02: It was a whole bunch of me no black.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there was only a couple of black kids in my school, and I was getting bullied.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_02: It took the whole, like all of them.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_02: But I'm getting bullied by niggas darker than me.
• 11:44
  unknown: Right.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_02: I'm trying to clean it up, talking about I took all of them.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_02: I did, I did.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_02: I did, I did know it.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_02: A little skinny guy.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, nah, nah, yeah.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_02: I do y'all research, man.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, they had to jump me, they couldn't find me one-on-one.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_02: So, um, yeah, like so.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_02: That was like an occurrence for me.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_02: But at least the demographics were a little bit, it was more on the Dominican side, don't get me wrong, but at least there was black kids there.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_02: Um, there was no white people.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_02: We had we had we had a mix.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_02: It was Asian kids, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_02: So we had a mix.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_02: On my specific block, though, it was mostly black people.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_02: So we had black Americans, we had Jamaicans, we had everybody.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_02: There were two Mexicans homes, but majority of my block was mostly black people.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_02: So that's what I'm kind of used to.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_02: So for me, Northern Boulevard was like the border.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_02: You go to Corona, that's like mostly where the Dominicans are.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_02: You know, there's Mexicans there too, this is Dorians there too, but it was mostly like Dominicans.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_02: And then on this side of the border, that's where it was more, it was darker.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's how I'd break it down for my childhood.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right, right.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_02: But my block was very diverse.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_02: All the blocks are pretty much diverse.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_02: Corona is a diverse neighborhood.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_02: You go a couple of blocks forward, you get to Jackson Heights, and it's a whole nother demographic.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_02: So crazy.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so that part of Queens has always been very diverse to me, but the last few days is one people I see.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm just like, what the fuck is going on here?
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_02: What they call it?
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_02: The Dorians.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_02: That's what I call them.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_02: That's the title, by the way.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_02: And I and I'm I mean that in the most respectful way possible.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_02: I know that it probably can't be respectful, but I mean the most respectful way possible.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_02: So it was just like so jarring to me.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm used to like the only Dominican spots I saw were barber shops.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um you know them niggas gonna go nowhere.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and they still had the Dominican um deli that had the chinola with the um the henny in it, if you know what you're doing.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_02: On the corner from where the truck used to be.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that that that same deli's still there.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_00: I was about to say, don't throw them out there.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't know.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_02: Shout them out, shut them up.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you can go in there and still get it done.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_02: You can still get it done.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I have I haven't been in a shout out to them.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like you know, this is where I grew up at.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_02: So but they're the only and then there's like a new Dominican spot that they do uh steak frites.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_02: They're trying to be like I haven't tried it.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_02: That line be jumping.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_02: Nah, but they got crazy hours though.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_02: They're not open during the day.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's like it's a it's a late night spot.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_02: Four in the morning.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_02: It's a late night spot.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_02: I haven't tried it either because while I'm working, they they close.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_02: So I see that I see that, but like the whole area, there's mad tackeras, but there's there's the like thousands of that like I don't even know how they're making money because every other block is a taqueria.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like the just watching the neighborhoods flip.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_02: And then I thought to myself when I was younger, and I was speaking to one of my OGs, he told me when he, because he's like from there from the 70s, let's say, he said when he first lived in East Amherst, Corona area, it was just blacks and Italians.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_02: I was about to say Italians was yeah, and he he got horror stories about how them niggas used to like, you know, they y'all had to get down.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_02: Like they don't want you in the neighborhood, like we just got here, type of shit.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_02: So and then he said when he was growing up, some Jamaicans moved in.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, he he saw it started, yeah.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_02: He saw when it started mixing diversity.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_02: So maybe I'm just the old man, but now it's overwhelmingly just but it's just one nigga down there, and it's the Dorians, it's all of them, and yeah, like yeah, that that kind of like bothered me a little bit.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_02: But maybe I'm just a racist.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think so.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_02: But it's it's a lot, it's oh no, one more thing.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_02: So I one of my jobs, I was at a school, a public school, like uh elementary to let's say eighth grade school.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't see one black kid.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't see I saw one Dominican or Puerto Ricanish family like getting picked up from the school out of like 700 people.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, nah, son.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_02: It's real.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_02: Like I really wanted to ask the teachers, but I knew I was gonna be crazy.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_02: I'm in my work uniform.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_02: It would have been crazy for me to stop a teacher and be like, yo, yeah, how many black kids y'all got in this school?
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but it's just it's mind-blowing to me because I'm like, I grew up here and there was we had everybody.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_02: The ironically, the only people we didn't have was white people.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_02: There was no white.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't I didn't meet a white person until I went to um middle school.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, me too.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was the first time I interacted with a ham, it was a handful of.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_02: And it wasn't even that many, and again, they weren't even American white, they were like Polish or something like that.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_02: Like a white American person, I probably didn't meet until I was in high school.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_02: That's actually very true.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: I yeah, I met white people from Greece and Poland and middle school.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_02: You know, yeah, until I went to high school is when I met my first actual white American person because you know we live in New York so diverse, but and that was my uh no disrespect to the uh the Dorians out there, but um And your first white girl.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_02: Where?
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_02: High school.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_02: How'd you know that?
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_02: You was there?
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know you dabbling in the milk.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_02: You like some good milk.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_02: I I like all women, even the Dorian.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_02: You like all milk.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_02: I like all women.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_02: Don't do that.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_02: But um yeah, yeah, that was my experience.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's real, bro.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_02: And and and you still live out there?
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I still live out there.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_02: So I I've seen it change.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_02: I I tell people not to.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's safer now, though.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_02: I would say that because my block, I don't know how y'all blocks were, but my block was there was crack, like we had dangerous crackheads.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_02: So we had the type of crackheads that you lived in the Hearst?
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, but I lived up top, like I lived on 101st Street, so right right by northern.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_02: Like northern was like my borderline street.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't live that far down.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_02: But my block was like the drug block.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_02: That's where niggas was selling, dealing.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_02: I'll give y'all a funny story.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_02: I probably told it mad times in this podcast.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_02: Um, my my pops was cool with all the drug dealers.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_02: So one of the one of the drug dealers came up to me one time, right?
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_02: He was dead ass serious, dude.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_02: Like dead serious, like heart attack serious.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_02: He was like, yo.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_02: I never heard of that heart attack serious.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_02: He was like, yo, the best um head you're ever gonna get in your life is from one of these bitches out here.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_02: He was talking about the crackheads, of course.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_02: I was just like, this is me like 13 years old.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh yeah.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_02: You know what?
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_02: You I'm not gonna, I was gonna say he's not wrong.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if he's wrong or right.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_02: But I've heard that sentiment from a lot of like people who's outside.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_02: Who's outside, yeah?
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_02: He said, yo, that uh because he I'm I'm young, so he's like trying to put me on a game in his mind, but he was like, I'm not, he wasn't trying to, he wasn't joking, like he was dead ass.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_02: Like basically, like, yo, pick one out.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_02: Put it on game, man.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, whenever you're ready, like let us know.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_02: Like, we got you.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_02: But how disappointing it is that you don't even like head now.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_02: Well, maybe it's because of that.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_02: I I didn't finish that story.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_02: But um, yeah, one thing I did notice though, at least from I'm there during the day, so I don't know what it looks like at night.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't I saw one crackhead as opposed to there used to be crackheads everywhere when I was when I was around the area.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't see no crackheads.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_02: So it felt safer.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, it's it's overwhelming.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_02: It's overwhelming, especially my block.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_02: I live close to the train, so the taco trucks, the the the everything's overwhelming.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: Nah, they took over.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: They took over.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_03: There's four well, I don't there's four Dorian restaurants on the around the corner from my from my block.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not counting the taco trucks.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, just to just the standalone brick and mortar spots.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_02: How do they make money?
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_02: How do you choose which one to go to?
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's just so many of them.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_02: To be honest, there's a lot of people that that maybe it's just that.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_02: There's just so many of them.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_02: We sound like Trump supporters of D right now.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_02: I ain't gonna lie.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_02: When I was uh Round them up, yeah, we only had one we only had one Mexican spot.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_02: It was Tol Cingo.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_02: That was the only one we had on Northern.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're right.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_02: I know about that spot.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was the only one we had.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_02: Tolcingo.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_02: Well, there's too many of them, man.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_02: But uh, shout them out though.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_02: They're good people, you know.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_02: They if they're keeping the neighborhood safe, they can, you know.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but shout them out, yeah.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_02: So I think that's a great uh and and and the I don't know if they're keeping the neighborhood safe though.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_02: Like they're still tell me, nigga.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_03: With that has come a lot of um Salvadorian gangs, MS-13s, like I definitely see some MS 13 tag.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_02: It's a lot going on.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_02: So um just literally today, one block away from my house, two mopeds pulled up on this kid and robbed him for his um denim tears sweatshirt.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_02: Niggas is stealing, though.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_02: 2 p.m.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_02: Told him run it on camera.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_02: So maybe I'm wrong.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it just looks safer.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_02: It definitely looks safe.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: I don't see the crack it.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_00: Probably don't have like people like outside, like you know.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't see a lot of that.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_02: There's no niggas like 50 niggas standing at the corner store.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_02: It's like three.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_00: But then again, I think I think New York in general, I think in general, right?
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_00: I I think like even all over, I mean, you know, I'll be driving around Brooklyn everywhere, and I think that's also that thing also kind of died.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like people don't really like wrap the block no more.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, to my you know that's fair.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: But um, yeah, it's definitely like, you know, it looks safer.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_00: It looks safer.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_02: I asked the people who killed that three-year-old.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_02: I mean that one-year-old.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's that's true.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_02: But you know, anything can happen in a New York minute.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, so speaking about my great city, our great city, because we all New Yorkers, you know, proud and true.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you guys saw this, but on Twitter there was this gigantic debate, at least in my timeline, about Polo, the brand.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_02: That started a bigger conversation, but we'll attack it in parts.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_02: So, some random guy tweeted, yo, how come these New Yorkers think that they started polo?
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_02: Which is probably one of the most ignorant things you could tweet, because polo, Ralph Lauren, was literally started by a guy in the Bronx.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_02: That's he started the brand.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_02: It's a white dude from the Bronx.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_02: So it's from the Bronx.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_02: Like we can just start there, just like hip hop, but we can start there.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_02: It's from the Bronx.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_02: So even if you want to say that y'all weren't the best, y'all did this the best, it started in the Bronx.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_02: Like, period.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_02: Then I don't know if y'all know about this crew, but this was like when we was babies though, like the late 90s, mid-90s, there was a crew of boosters for y'all don't don't know what boosters are.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_02: Those are niggas that steal sometimes off a truck, sometimes they go into Macy's and steal shit, but and they bring it back to hood and they sell it for a better price.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_02: You was making a killing.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, boosters.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_02: They there was a group of boosters called lowlifes.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_02: Get it low polo life.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_02: Gotcha.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and uh people say that Fab, the rapper Fabulous, he was part of that crew, but there's no confirmation.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_02: They were the boosters literally for polo.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_02: They had a whole they were literally called lowlives after polo, and that's just one crew.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_02: Could you imagine like if you go to any New York City school public school?
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: at the time, early 2000s, late 90s, you have to have polo.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_02: Like that was like you you go if you couldn't afford it from Macy's, you go to Marshall's.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_02: Marshall's got the polo in there too.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like the the stitching might be a little off at the butt but it's polo.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_02: It's polo.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_02: And you got the the rugby, the big shirt.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_02: So niggas is trying to say that Chief Keefe started polo.
• 22:27
  unknown: Come on.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_02: And then niggas is trying to say young dropped.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_02: And I just didn't like this anti-New York bias that I'm starting to see online.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_02: And then that, you know, then the conversation kind of spread to like I don't know why New York niggas think y'all started everything.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_02: Y'all not this y'all not that and then a lot of people started tweeting the reason why y'all hate us so much is because we are that like we are the fashion capital of not maybe not the world but we are one of them.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_02: I think we're the only fashion capital in America because the other one is and we are the fashion capital of the world.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_02: It might be yeah the other one I know UK and France they're fashion capitals but I think New York is is it and I don't even want to sound cocky but it's more like France and Paris but yeah yeah Paris I'm bugging I think the UK they they they're a fashion capital too.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_02: That's you know Burbay is from there.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah yeah but um I just don't the only argument that I could see the only it's not I still don't rock with it but it's the only argument I could see is Kanye.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_02: That's that argument for one shirt the pink polo that's the only thing we know because people didn't just start rocking just pink polo.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_02: No no but I'm saying like if you're gonna attribute anything to Kanye it's always the pink polo.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_02: That's what you hear you don't hear like oh yeah he had a rugby he had he had uh a Ralph Lauren denim supply and if I really want to reach I could say he got the pink idea from Cam.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly that's New York regardless so it's like we are the fashion center like the the denim tear shit that's New York Tellfare bags that nigga's from Left Rack.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_02: Brooklyn he's from he's from Left Rack okay yeah yeah nah he's from Left Rack.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah so it's like I don't think y'all get it and it just it actually restored more pride in me from being from here because it's like yo next episode I'm wearing my rugby man yeah I I think we should I got the old school I still got rugby's at the time yeah I don't even I don't know if my fits though it's been a while it's been no I'm not everything I got is extra yeah it's crazy crazy but yeah nah shout out uh New York man it was just it just gave me a lot of pride to hear people you know shitting on us because that's all they do online if you really pay attention there's always subtle digs at us they they they we're the main characters of the world pretty much one one one for the haters man yeah I think it's this one yeah y'all deserve that but um how how was y'all in how was y'all growing up like with the polo stuff like in school and stuff like that me know me no me know in America oh okay I came in 2003 babies like you yeah yeah I was fresh out I was fresh off the boat how much um no i i had I had a lot of polos or a lot of polo t-shirts nautica t-shirts yeah yeah it's a lot of brands that we made popping um I made sure it was not USPA yeah it couldn't rock USP yeah it can't rock the US um but yeah polo i st if if I ever go to Marshall's or Macy's I still grab a fresh polo just yeah just the white for the summer yeah you know you get the the you get the um the white tees you get the love you get the wife beaters like they got they come in flavors the boxes was popping got money like that what you mean you got the wife beater polos I'm still I had the G unit polo too I mean the G unit uh wife beater too I know you did it yeah no you did it that shit that shit was the worst fit though that shit legit looked like a bra it was bad yo look how it fit on 50 yeah that was bad designer that is hilarious yeah like even our rappers like Jay Z had his own shoes 50 had his own clothes like yeah I I don't know why the New York hate is but I get it I get it we're we're the epicenter of everything and it's like you know hate it hate us because they ain't us you know how long did you find out how long did it take for you to realize that polo is a sport oh wow yeah a wow right a long time a long time yeah I still don't even understand like I haven't seen like a polo map really I've seen it how do you how do they score it it's like um it's almost like a mixture between like it's like hockey on horses yeah kind of in a way like because you're running and you gotta hit hit the shit with a stick niggas still play that today yes is it Olympics I was about to say I think it's an Olympic sport I think yeah I could double check I've only seen it like in movies then I like I've never even watched a match either best polo nigga shh Ralph nah probably some don't do it England guy nah nah nah nah yokay it's not an Olympic sport anymore okay but it was in the damn 1900 1908 1920 1924 1936 it was removed in 1936 a century ago niggas ain't playing that shit what's up with you that's fire though all right man shot in New York but let's go across the pond you brought him up you spoke his name so now he's here I tried to warn you about uh your man but Kanye West the artist from formerly known as Yeah was it the other way around um he got banned from the UK y'all was talking hot shit about how he sold out this and he sold out that he's uncancelable I'm surprised I even got that off that's a toughie and Charlie speak to me man talk to me what's going on tell me what's what's happening I think Jay Z did this right that's a conspiracy theory I know I've been hearing it talk to me it's a paper plane hat somewhere I have I have I'm I I'm speechless now it really caught me off guard like I I didn't know it was I didn't I didn't think they were gonna take it this far like when Pepsi dropped out as a sponsor I was I was shocked I was like okay because they're the headline sponsor but I'm like I just don't know how things like this don't happen like things these events and these festivals they are professionals who are running this yeah you don't book Kanye before the sponsors approve the headliner I think they did approve that's what I'm saying like they so how do you pull out after you approve now I don't know if it was a a move to embarrass him like ah yeah we go like oh yeah I'm not doing anything I'm just cracking my knuckles I forgot as a slurry can't do that um those people they're like let's approve it I didn't even think about that let's gas the fans diabolically let's gas the fans up this and that and as soon as this is it's announced pull the rug out pull the rug out you thought you thought you was valid fuck out of here damn um the biggest lick or the second biggest liquor company in the world um Diaggio I got smoke with them niggas they pulled out shout out Diddy man no pun intended fact and um and I still was like fuck it like somebody stayed down though um I'm sure they're not the only two sponsors I'm sure a bunch of people still stayed down okay okay um okay but those are the big the big dogs yeah those are the big oh rockstar energy drink which I didn't even know was a thing they they still around no they dipped like they was part of the the sponsorship team I didn't even know they were a thing I thought they got bought out years ago like who the fuck drinks Rockstar energy drinks yeah I'm niggas should have stayed just for the publicity I think I agree but um because I don't think they their their money's up no who the fuck yeah but um uh so yeah I I I still felt like damn this is crazy this is yeah I feel like this was a this was like equivalent to like when Chase fucking told him get your money out of our banks type of thing yeah I didn't know that was legal I didn't know it was legal either but but um they did it they oh hello hello hello hello hello what they told him yo get your bread out the bank oh yeah Chase bank said your money's not good here brother can't bank with us they wanted to take out 150 something million out take that shit off the block get out of here put that shit in your mattress go to Wells Fargo or some shit go somewhere else nigga they froze they froze it first yeah they were like hold on let's count you can't let's make sure it's all here let's make sure it's it's legal let's make sure it's where this money comes from okay not only that they all Kanye couldn't access it.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah exactly it froze then you gotta count it okay and then um then they're like all right we can unfreeze it you can have it get it out of here um but um but when they banned him from the country yeah so you done yeah I feel like I'm talking a lot this just makes me proud to be an American um we take freedom of speech in this country for granted because we can criticize our government we can walk around the street saying slurs like I just made up a new one Dorian's like we can do whatever we want here and we forget that the world is not America I think we're the only country that has true freedom of speech I think Canada has freedom of expression I think uh the UK might have a similar thing but freedom of speech is an American idea yeah and Kanye found out the hard way I don't agree with it because I'm I'm an American I don't agree with 99% of the shit Kanye said he didn't just piss off Jewish people he pissed off black people a lot he pissed me off specifically yeah he's let down his fans he's let me down who am I it doesn't really matter but it's not just the Jewish community that he pissed off and still I think he should be able to perform he he provides a good and a service and the people that want to you know support that should be able to do so for the whole country to ban him and then like the terms was like he has to come and like speak to the prime minister and something and then maybe you know consider it next year like this is a lot of money you're losing.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_02: So he's gonna get double two uh eight digits for that for that concert yeah but now it's like who who does it because these people talk like is he gonna be if I'm him I go back home I go back to Chicago I sell out ringlee that's air stadium I'm just making this up yeah yeah you know you know who does it the Petty King who talk to me Drake jersey does what I think I I I would I could see him doing that to shit on yeah oh like you think he is I'm saying they got the bag I the slot is open oh like he's gonna s perform in the spot well I think he's performing at the World Cup this I don't yeah I don't think he's actually gonna do it.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_02: But I think if you send party party next door you can send one of his little niggas not do it nah you can do an OVL fest without Drake nah you need bigger feet yeah nah failure.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_02: Kendrick's not gonna do it no but it's just so crazy to me how there's freedom of speech but there's there's repercussions for your actions as well.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_02: So you can talk all the shit you want but this is a repercussions um I think it's whack.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_02: I think they should just let him perform let the people dictate let niggas just don't show up don't buy tickets if if they don't sell enough tickets they'll cancel the show yeah yeah just but we know that's not gonna happen.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_02: So I guess I don't know this is I didn't even think about that.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_02: This was a pop-out like all they all got together like we're gonna show this nigga that he's not untouchable.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_02: And then right when he had this amazing two shows his album was decent people are didn't it go number one?
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah I mean of course but because it's oh yeah but it it was actually not terrible yeah I still haven't listened so he's on a they caught him right on the high like they having this whole Jay Z and Kanye who's gonna have the best concert this year and then they just said and I think that was good for the culture honestly yeah having both of them you know their legacy acts at this point they're you know that's crazy man but I'm I'm not I'm surprised but I'm not surprised like I'm shocked that it happened but it makes sense when you do the math like they were just like this nigga like he made a song called Heil Hitler like he made a song called Hill Hitler or he was just on that no there's a song oh see I was nah there's a whole song bro oh that's crazy that's worse than heaven sent yeah but but it's Kanye that's the thing like my man LaRussell you're just not good enough that's that's that's pretty much what it is no disrespect but um here we go no disrespect no I don't I don't I don't I'm not he's a creative I don't want to shit on the creative but Dorians you're not good enough when you get good enough you can I don't think we're good enough yet we we're gonna get there I got a candle speak for you once you get a candle upset it's just different but yeah man shout out yay um how does he how does he rebound from that oh does it just make him bigger oh it's just um it just it I think it creates a stronger divide well no I think um it's not gonna work in their favor like I think I really I think most people feel how we feel where it's like yeah he did a lot but he came he apologized to everyone he he said he has he was going through mental health we we we can tell he's been going through mental health like he's he's not all there he's never really been all there but I don't like that as a crutch what I'm saying is that most of the world well I don't know the world I just think he's just good enough like his music is so good it doesn't matter like we we want to hear Kanye I'm saying oh you I think you're asking like what does he do to replace this you know like where what's his next move because what if this is a domino effect nah because Pepsi could pull out because it's one show.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah I don't think Pepsi pulling out of a stadium tour okay that's gonna gross 300 million you know I'm saying like I don't think I don't then again I don't know but I I just don't think that they will do that.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um one because the money two live nation like a lot of these other people are gonna be like whoa hold up like y'all signed off on this y'all was cool with this like what we doing like y'all playing these games like y'all and y'all feelings like y'all mixing feelings with business and this that's not that's not good business.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_03: But I don't know what his next move is I mean I think he just continues because he's been the Mexican he did a show in Mexico that was crazy.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_00: See another 60,000 he he can he could just say fuck um the UK the UK and just rock up North America I do think this like you know um like it becomes like a like a bigger drag like things like this becomes like a dragon that you gotta slay right and it's like whatever he does that whenever he bounced back because I do feel like he's gonna bounce back um like this just it doesn't make some bigger but it kind of creates like a spring effect where it's like you know and people gonna respond to it people gonna you know I like that so you know it's it's it's messed up though.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah because it it's true like they're they're smushing him they're trying to smush him yeah but you you know he's he's volatile we know he's a diamond he he's built with pressure he's gonna he's gonna shine yeah yeah y'all y'all doing a good service with the man good job yeah but yeah but then again if you are Jewish if your family is from the UK or Germany whatever the case is if your family did go through the Holocaust if you know what I'm saying like it's just a lot it think about if think about if um Morgan Wallen said everything Kanye said well not everything he said but something just as bad as what Kanye said in terms of slavery.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah right or like they made a song about 9-11 for example and you know for example and let's say we were in control like Jewish people are in a lot of these things we would shit on him too like nah you're not performing here you're not performing here we pull a rug on the U Fuck you you know what I'm saying?
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah that's a fact so I could see it from the other angle yeah because remember the UK they like you know there's a history lesson but they were bombed by Germany badly a lot they lost a lot of soldiers.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah America did too but we didn't nothing happened here like Germany didn't bomb us.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_02: Right the UK literally has like blood in the game skin in the game and then you make a song called Hal Hitler the guy that we lost people fighting like come on son.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah like look what Chris Brown had to go through for what he did.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah that's good oh see effortless hey you're you're professional even though they want to go there yet but we don't have to yeah no we don't all right um shout out Kanye man I don't I say that reluctantly but uh freedom of speech man gotta keep that up are you looking forward to Kanye clothes I mean or sneakers or like are are is he is he the dead fashion wise I I said that like a hundred pods ago niggas tried to say I was bugging but listen I I never I can't back out the Yeezys I so listen right so Yeezys ain't fly no more I think they've been not fly for a while I don't see okay think about think about this right damn just think about the last time you and your your your people's was going out right and they you putting on your your your shit did anybody back out Yeezys as like the feats for the night it's been a while yeah I I see niggas delivering packages of Yeezys now so it's over not saying that that don't happen to Jordans too it happens to Jordans too but that's usually niggas they cook them already I'm talking about fresh out the box Yeezys niggas delivering packages in second thing and again the host that we had at the time got a little you know upset about this but I don't think Kanye's clothes has ever been fly period at all I never seen a person be like they put on his clothing and is like yo I got that shit on I've never seen that I I can see what you mean because um it was like the the bum like the bumble of the yeah like that that look he he he he just listen that look wasn't style he just he just wasn't the guy and not only that he he did he did it too much yeah because I always felt like uh the praise and I've said this before the praise that Kanye gets for fashion I think actually belongs to Pharrell I think Pharrell should get that praise because Billionaire Boys Club is a street brand that has lasted the test of time.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's still you can still put on Billionaire Boys Club today and go to the club and feel like you did something.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah but I think I I think in terms of that it still lacks a little bit of innovation and creativity it's a t-shirt.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_02: No of course but it's it's a street fashion staple at this point.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_02: You say like is it was still uh time yeah it was still time like Kanye's stuff has not done that like when the Yeezy shoes were popping they were popping but we've seen many shoes get popping feles were popping at one point so I feel you I just I just think billionaire boys club is uh doable like like Travis Scott's merch is no but you see billionaire boys club is not merch that's what I'm saying it's a brand but yeah that's that's the thing like Kanye has not had a successful brand look at me on my clothing in clothing apparently let's let's describe success though because like he's definitely made a lot of money no no of course like it was success is relative but for me in this specific conversation what I'm talking about is two things.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_02: One again is like when was the last time you was like yeah my man's getting fly and he got the Kanye shirt on like oh yeah this nigga's about to kill it tonight yeah no and the shoes at one point was that though yeah so I give him that yeah which is hard to do but the apparel to me has never been some shit that you're like oh I I'm I'm a stunt tonight fellas I got all my Kanye shit on.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_02: Would you say he's been successful in influencing the big brands today absolutely and then his protege Virgil which I think really headcracked him Virgil got everything that Kanye wanted and I know that had to probably head crack him but then again That's why they cried they had that moment yeah but to me that's that's what makes Kanye a loser to me.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't want this to be a whole me shitting on Kanye thing because I do this all the time now but it's like could you imagine uh Mike comes on this pod and then he takes off and he's the next host at Hot 97 and you're like on your podcast like that nigga's a loser without me fuck Mike that's that's what he did with Virgil he said that yeah like that I'm paraphrasing but he basically he disparaged his name and it's it's it was weird it was corny because Kanye never got accepted the way he wanted to by the fashion world and not can understand being native you're right because his delivery because it was not you can't say fuck Virgil though that's fucking crazy yeah you can't you can't but like that's I'm I'm from New York like niggas don't move like you can't you also can't say slavery and you also can't say um Beyonce had the best video like at that like he you can't say that but in all three three of those instances he's right you know about this Virgil thing I just think Virgil's more talented but he meant by he didn't mean fuck Virgil no fuck Virgil he meant like he said fuck Virgil like fuck Vir fucking this is after Virgil was dead by the way okay I I didn't you sure I'm uh listen I'm a I used to be a big comic but I think what he means is like fuck fuck picking Virgil then why didn't he just say that but that's what I'm saying about this is my problem with Kanye but that's what I'm saying about his delivery nah fuck that y'all gotta stop little like baby in this nigga like he's a grown hands man.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_02: If he wanted to say fuck the fashion houses which he has done several times why did he have to say fuck Virgil that's whack I'm sorry I agree with you.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_02: I agree with you I just I just again I used to you know I say this a million times I used to feel like me and Kanye was like kindred spirits like we were very similar human beings and then he started doing the lamest shit I've ever seen and I'm like oh this this dude is whack.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_00: But he still makes great music this is how I see Kanye sometimes like when he talks and you know it's kind of like I get him you know and I also get the people not understanding him.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's kind of like imagine like you ever seen those videos those like geniuses right like 2008 like it it reminds now right yeah like yo like I've been told you have Bitcoin or whatever that and like when they said it probably like they sounded crazy, it sounded crazy, or like maybe they said in a way, like, yo, just put money here, and like it was just like weird, yeah.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, and you know, it it doesn't take away from him being right, but it's just at the time, you know.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_00: So I feel like it does sometimes go into the the the delivery.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_00: Though I get you when you say, like, yo, like you know, I can't you gotta clear it up.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_02: I hear what you're saying, dog, but there's no way that your dead protege who you called family and friends, yeah.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_02: The word fuck that dude should ever come out of your mouth.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, that's I agree with that.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_00: Because the industry chose him.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_02: You said he you said he head cracked him, right?
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_02: In the sense of he accomplished all the things that Kanye himself wanted to accomplish.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_02: Well, the tweet that Kanye said was um he said, fuck Virgil and any of these other niggas that work for me, then use me and went against me.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_02: So that's that's what he Like there was something in there?
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't know if he feels like Virgil took his shit or whatever the case is.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_02: Well, again, from the context that I'm speaking on, I don't think those were unless Virgil did something foul, I don't understand because nothing came out like oh Virgil went behind the Kanye's back and told them not to work with Kanye.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_02: None of that came out, and this is my problem with Kanye fans is that not saying specifically you, but it's like niggas gonna make excuses for him doing snake shit.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_02: Like, let me use the the Jay-Z Dame example.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_02: If Dame feels like Jay snaked him, I can understand that.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_02: Just give us the reasons, like, oh nah, Jay went behind my back and did this, Jay went behind my back, my back, and did that.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, then he snaked you, and I'll I'll I'll admit to that.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_02: But what did Virgil do to Kanye besides he made a brand a brand, Bentrill, that was okay, then he made off white that is still here today, and then he got chosen by Louis Vuitton.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_02: Well, before that he did Pyrex.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Pyrex was even before Ben Trill, you're correct.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like he he he did he did the work.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_02: It wasn't like he just showed up one day and they were like, Oh, we like Kanye's designs, but we don't fuck with him, so let's take Kanye's little man's and make Kanye mad.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_02: And even if that was the case, why is your beef with Virgil?
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_02: You know what's the thing?
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_02: I think Kanye feels like Virgil should have said no.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_02: So you want to block your man's blessing?
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_02: Again, if Mike tomorrow ends up on fucking hot 97, yeah, but do I think that we should be there before Mike because we put in the work?
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe, but I'm not gonna say fuck Mike.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and this is.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_02: But but if but if me and Mike, if Mike knows, and I know Mike knows that they're doing they're picking Mike to spike me.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_02: You're gonna tell him not to get the bag?
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_02: What I'm saying is I can see how somebody may expect Mike to if I'm Kanye West, okay, I may feel like, yo, fuck that.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_02: You could be bigger with me.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_02: I'm Kanye West.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not just Charlie from the Mike's response, not to speak for you, is like, I hear you, Charlie, but how many views is your pod getting?
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_02: That's hot 97, bro.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_02: I gotta take this look.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_02: Even if it's bullshit, this I would never get this look again.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_02: I I I under you're right.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_02: You're right.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_02: I think Kanye was.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_02: No, because I'm too I'm saying in Kanye's brain, he felt like he could be bigger than Louis Vuitton.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_02: And he would be wrong.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_02: Like, this is the problem.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like, he would be wrong.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_02: Give me the reason.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think he would be wrong.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_02: Well, he he would be wrong in his lifetime because it would take past his lifetime to be bigger than Louis Vuitton.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_02: But no, we're talking about just in fashion.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_02: I think that if he would his personality wasn't, he had he's dame.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_02: So if his personality was more like Jay, he could be as big as Louis Vuitton, maybe post-death.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think so, though.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_02: But that's just me.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think Kanye has made any apparel that could like it just didn't look good.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_02: Like it just didn't, and then Kanye's whole thing was now he wants it to be affordable, which is a respectable thing.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_02: Make this shit$15.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_02: But then you you kind of took yourself out the game.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_02: You can't compete with Louis Vuitton with$15 shirts.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_02: Like now you're just doing that thing where it's like, oh, I didn't want to play in the NBA.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna start my old league.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I wanted to be the best, I wanted to be the best player at Rucker Park.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_02: I never wanted to go to the NBA when you've been screaming you wanted to go to the NBA for 10 years.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_02: Like, come on, bro.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I see through the bullshit, and again, it's because I really thought Kanye was a like-minded individual.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_02: Like, this the whole, oh, like I think I'm better than everybody, I think I'm the best.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_02: Like the the delusion, I have that same delusion, but I'm not faking it.
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_02: I fought I found out that this dude is faking that.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_02: And now he's gonna lay back on, oh, it's mental health, oh, it's this, it's that.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_02: He might have mental health problems, and that's that's unfortunate for him, but then we can't just allow him to live on that oh his mental health because we just did the same thing with the Tourette's guy.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_02: Like, why you got Tourette's here in this moment when these two black men are winning an award?
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_02: Like, take your Tourette's outside, like, don't ruin their moment.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's the same thing.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_02: Like, nah, I'm not gonna let you just live on this.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I have mental health, so I'm allowed to say inflammatory things about uh uh Jay-Z and his kids and and Virgil who died.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_02: Like, fuck them.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_02: Like, oh no, I'm Kanye, so I'm allowed to do that, bro.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_02: I do understand the Tourette's thing happening at that moment.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_02: I do think he should apologize, but you that's not how Tourette's work.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you no, he should have just never been there, or like you're saying, or apologize.
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_02: He knew he had to rest before he got there, correct?
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_02: And everybody, everybody, yeah, yeah.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like, but again, I I just don't want to seem like I'm picking on Kanye.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_02: I even swore that I was never gonna talk about this dude again.
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_02: But he's been in the news, which bravo to him.
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm even on his side with the UK thing.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_02: I think the UK is bugging.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_02: Kanye in the news cycle is is like a Drake.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but you have to talk about it.
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think I do, but I do.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_00: I think I think the thing with Kanye is that um in closing.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_00: He just really let me down, bro.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_00: And this is this is how I feel about him.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think these people with power and you know, whatever, like they want people that they could control.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's where Kanye could be a threat to them.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because he is can't really control it is hard to control him.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's like the movie Um uh Troy, right?
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_00: Brad Pitt, right?
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like the kings didn't like Brat because Brat would inspire loyalty from other from his soldier.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, yo, I'm the king.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_00: This guy's on the wrong part.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_00: I gotta get you a real talk.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like, bro, like this guy, you know, yeah, he's he's now you're saying he's probably the best soldier I got, but I'm the king.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_00: I feed the I give you a sword, I whatever the fuck.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_00: You know, and it's like kings don't like when you know they have a brat pit over here saying, like, I'm fighting today, or I feel like this, or like being disobedient to the king.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_00: You know, that's how, you know, normally.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody's gonna kiss the ring.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, and Kanye is definitely at least that's what I thought he was.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_02: And I think he tried to kiss the ring, and they were just like, nah, bro, we we want Virgil.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_02: Like, that's that's how I feel about it.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_02: And because he was like, you know, remember when he was on um, what's that dude's name, brother?
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_02: All the the the Drake be going to all the time, the interviewer.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_02: All the time, yeah.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_02: Like every time they drop in like big albums, they go to this white dude.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_02: What's his name, bro?
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_02: Not Zane Lowe.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Zane Lowe.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, it's the Kanye Zayn Lowe interview, and he was just going in about how he's gonna be the next, and he just kept naming white dudes, like a whole bunch of I'm gonna be the next Disney, Disney, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm just like, yo, bro.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_02: And then he started this whole, oh, I'm the richest black man ever, or in America.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_02: And it was like a laundry list of black dudes that are richer than him.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_02: And it's just like, what are you doing, dog?
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_02: Like, it's it was just so weird.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just like, you're begging these people, you already have the culture.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_02: Well, real quick, like, yeah, go ahead.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_02: Not not on some anti-black shit because I fuck, but it's like who, what black person will he name on Disney level?
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_02: No, there's the he just wasn't the richest black person, and then he couldn't know that part, but I'm saying when he said I'm gonna be the next, you kind of gotta name white people if you talk about like a crazy level.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_02: Nah, because Oprah has her own network.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but Oprah ain't Disney.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_02: Oprah is a billionaire.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_02: Oprah was richer than Kanye, I think.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so it's talking about, but he's he's not talking about money.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_02: Well, no, but Oprah has a her own network, you know what I'm saying?
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_02: Like, if you're talking about influence, that that's that's that level.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_02: All right, but what channel is it on?
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what's you got our own channel?
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_02: No, I I kind of understand what you're saying, but again, Kanye is the same person that is is pro-black when he's trying to sell an album.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_02: But then Trump is my dad.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's it's pro-black when you're trying to sell an album.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_02: It's I'm a follower of Christ, I'm a Christian.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_02: It's Sunday service when I'm trying to sell an album, and these things personally bother me.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_02: So that's why I have so much vigor in how I speak on the dude.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_02: But it's like, again, you can't hate on your peoples.
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_02: That is that was it for me, honestly.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_02: That Virgil shit was the nastiest thing.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_02: The the oh, slavery's a choice, and how Hitler, all of that is is is bad.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_02: But it just did something to me because I couldn't imagine myself doing that to the people that I love.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_02: Like, this is a dude that's with me, like, oh, I spot I saw the talent in him, and we brainstorming and you like yo, bro, Virgil, like you could be the next me, you could be bigger than me, and then when it happens, it's fuck Virgil, and he's dead.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_02: Like, his parents gotta hear you say that.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_02: Like, that's fucking crazy.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_02: Like, shit is whack, bro.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but it's cool.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_02: Like I said, fine.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_02: When you getting fly next time, put on them Yeezys, bro.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, pull them on, man.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe I'm wrong.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_02: Go to the club of them Yeezys.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_02: I'm wearing a polo shirt, a Yeezys.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeezys, yeah.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know, and maybe I'm the wrong one, but you know, this is this is why we do the pop, man.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_02: It's a gas music.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, all right.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, just to move on, um, let's keep it hip hop.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_02: Offset is in the news again.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_02: This was I thought it was gonna be the biggest story, but things just kept coming out.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_02: Um, he offset has a gambling problem.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_02: He got shot at a um casino in Florida.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_02: And hit it well because no one really knew.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_02: This was news to everybody, I feel like.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_02: What?
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_02: His gambling problem.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, hell no.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, you know about it?
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_02: I knew there was rumblings, bro.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_02: It was little rumblings.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, you know what the telling sign was?
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_00: What?
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_02: When the story broke, mad people were like, oh yeah, he owes me money too.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_02: Nah, what?
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Ebro.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_02: Mad people was coming down.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_02: Ebro was like, oh yeah, he owes me money.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_02: And before they say, yo, which I think I I think was kind of whack, but again, before they said, Oh, yo, like, you know, yeah, but he don't owe you money though.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_02: Have you ever has a nigga?
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_02: The Ebro part saying that.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_02: Or I don't think everybody's saying, I don't think it's whack.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_02: You know why?
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_02: Because has a nigga ever owed you money and then you see him balling?
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_02: How does that make you feel insane?
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_02: Now he's playing with nigga, he's been bowling before he got shot.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_02: Nah.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_02: He could have been different.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_02: He's been buying cars.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no, no.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_02: It's different, it's different.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_02: So your thing is like the timing.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he could have.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_02: I think, and I don't even fuck with Ebro.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_02: And Ebro apologize, by the way.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_02: No, he I don't even fuck with Ebro, but I I respect that.
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_02: If a nigga owe me bread, maybe offset they don't want to go to the Ebro show.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_02: And he's like, oh, let me, but um, then there was like another dude.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_02: So there's like a uh he's kind of he's going viral right now.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_02: He he's an ex-security guard for a lot of these um rich and famous people.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_02: I think his name is uh Big Homie CC.
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_02: Shout out Big Homie CC.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_02: He said that offset is the type of dude that he if he don't if he thinks you're a pussy, he's not paying you.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_02: Like he got the money.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_02: Oh he's one of those niggas.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_02: Like he'll borrow money from you.
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_02: He got it, he just needs it in this moment, you might have it.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_02: That's why he got shot.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_02: And the story allegedly is that little TJ, and this this is a history of this, that little TJ he said it like on a on one of those uh live streams with one of these streamers, or he might he might have done it on his own stream that offset is broke.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_02: He's been saying it for months.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_02: So that's what I'm saying.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_02: There's been a little bumbling.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_02: He's like, yo, no offset is broke, he's popped.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_02: I lent him like 10 racks uh at a at a casino because I just happened to run into him in a casino.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_02: He was just like, yo, let me hold 10.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_02: And this could speak to why he was trying to um drain Cardi B.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, nah, but shout out, shout out to the case.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_02: Which I which I uh I yeah, he should have, but yeah, yeah, but nah, you're right.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_02: Like if he was up, he probably would have the niggas should have.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_02: No, but the niggas is jacking that he's up.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_02: It's just that he has debt.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_02: He has debt, yeah.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then um Selena Powell, who's like the new um cat stacks, I don't know if you know who that is.
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um, she's like uh well Selena Powell, she's like a she's a pass-around girl.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_02: Like all the industry dudes pass her around.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_02: And um, she's famous for just being a pass-around girl.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_02: Damn.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_02: If you name a rapper, she's probably slept with him.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_02: And she said that when she like offset came over to you know get some you know razzle dazzle, he he borrowed money from her.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_02: And she's thinking this is this is offset.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm he he's good for it.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so he owes her too.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_00: That's crazy.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_00: At least he was right with his theory, you know.
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, I wouldn't pay you every pussy, like her.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_00: She's literally pussy, yeah.
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_02: That's the thing.
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_02: He is up.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_02: That's the thing.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_02: When people when rich people are broke, they're usually not broke.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_02: Like Floyd, he's not broke in terms of we gotta talk about him.
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's not like I think the fight got canceled, right?
• 56:12
  SPEAKER_02: This nigga legitimately might be broke, like legit.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_02: So, all right, for rich people other than Floyd, yeah, they're usually broke, not because they don't have they're cash poor.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_02: Not yeah, they had too much debt, yeah, is what I'm saying.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_02: So, um, because offset the text came out with him with the handler at the casino.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_02: And she's like, he's like, yo, I need you to uh uh clear another 500, 500,000 for him to play.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_02: To play.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_02: She's like, okay, uh, let me let me talk to the people upstairs, you know.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but do you know how much you owe so far?
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_02: He's like, Oh, how much?
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_02: She's like, um, 890, 400, whatever, thousand.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_02: Nothing to that, nigga.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_02: He's like, all right, put the five on there.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_02: Like, we'll figure it out.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_02: But he already, he's already down 900 grand at the at this casino.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_02: Nah, but casinos like niggas like that.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_02: Of course.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_02: So what I think is gonna take your house.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're not coming for it.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_02: What I heard is when we go to casinos, that shit is peanuts for them.
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_02: What they really want is niggas like that.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_02: Like the niggas that's gonna spend a million dollars.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_02: Like, that's who the like they they they cater to.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they comp in your room, they$25,000 a night, shit.
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, so allegedly little TJ shot him.
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_02: Well turns out he didn't.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, yeah.
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_02: The initial story was they got into fisticuffs and little TJ shot him.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_02: Little TJ ended up getting locked up, offset goes to jail.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_02: I do believe offset was giving him the beats, though.
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_02: No, I think offset beat the shit out of TJ.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I'm from New York, so that didn't happen.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_02: But uh what was the um what was the actual prognosis then?
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_02: So what it what it what it is said to be is that a after the fight got broken up, TJ's man's, I think that's absolutely right, backed out and shot him in the ass.
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_02: And um TJ's alleging he's a rat.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_02: Because when he got shot and authorities pulled up, he said offset that the he shot, he shot me.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_02: Nigga shot me.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_02: That's dry snitching, that's not actual sneaking.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_02: And the reason why I'm gonna say that is because he didn't make a he didn't I already see you about to defend what you mean.
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_02: He nah nah.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_02: Go ahead.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_02: He didn't he didn't make a um, he didn't make a statement.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_02: Official statement.
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_03: So it was like out of panic, just like yeah, like that.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_02: That nigga shit he sh he just shot me.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_02: What the fuck is going on?
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_02: This nigga shot me?
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_02: Like, that's not snitching, that's just his response.
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_02: He didn't go to the police station and make a statement.
• 58:26
  SPEAKER_02: He didn't make a song, he didn't Right, right.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_02: I I understand.
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like that's Well he got shot anyways.
• 58:32
  SPEAKER_02: In his butt, in the ass.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_02: It's crazy.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_02: He has some like they they had pictures of him at the um he was outside smoking a square.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um at the um she just called a cigarette the square.
• 58:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_02: What you old school for real?
• 58:48
  SPEAKER_02: What?
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_02: I mean uh big a cigarette.
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_02: Let's see.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_02: He's smoking a cigarette.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_02: But um, yeah, so he was outside smoking a a cigarette.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_02: And um he had he had two joints with him.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_02: He you thought that you know I didn't miss the joints, but I joined a joint.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_02: I I went through the comics and nobody's talking about the girls.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, what the fuck is going on?
• 59:09
  SPEAKER_02: Uh who are these bitches at the I've been to the hospital before.
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't see this.
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_02: What's going on?
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_02: And they weren't famous.
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't they was bitches at the hospital.
• 59:17
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, damn nigga also don't play.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, that was and he performed.
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_02: He did?
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_02: You still you didn't see him?
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he limped, which I thought and everything, which I thought looked crazy.
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_02: He shouldn't have done that.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, he he wheeled up to the side of the stage.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_02: Nah, that was AI, bro.
• 59:33
  SPEAKER_02: Nah, AI AI performed, also performed, bro.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, maybe I got caught.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_02: I'll be getting caught by this AI.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he showed me some shit today.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_02: He's like, yo, that's AI.
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't say nothing, but I was like, oh, this is not good.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's crazy.
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's getting bad as well.
• 59:45
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, really?
• 59:45
  SPEAKER_00: You didn't damn it's getting bad as good.
• 59:47
  SPEAKER_00: Nah, I've got I've gotten really good actually telling about like even the AI.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_00: Every nigga says that.
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'm really good at telling AI, I got you.
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_02: Don't worry.
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_02: I got a couple videos for you.
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_01: I got about um gambling.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_03: What the fuck?
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I I didn't think it was like I know it's bad.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think um I think it's too biblical on us, but I really think we're heading towards the end times, bro.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_02: Everything is coming up.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_02: Gambling is like in art, like ever it's in us now.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_02: Like, they showing that shit on game.
• 1:00:22
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you go watch any sport and they got the lines, like we in Vegas.
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_02: That's nasty.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_02: And then now you got now, everything is like you watching some games.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I saw a clip of an NBA game.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_02: It's a fast break.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_02: The niggas on a fast break, he goes up for a layup and then he passes it back, and his teammate is mad.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_02: Like, nigga, why are you not laying the ball up?
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_02: Like, right.
• 1:00:41
  SPEAKER_02: If you're a gambler, you gotta be like, nah, son, something's going on.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_02: Like, it's just it's just now you can gamble on what's like I could gamble if Kanye's gonna perform it.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_03: Like, you could gamble on things gonna happen.
• 1:00:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like that.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_02: Anything.
• 1:00:56
  SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't like it, bro.
• 1:00:57
  SPEAKER_02: It's all they they're making gambling too normal.
• 1:00:59
  SPEAKER_02: You could bet, like, Lauren Hill's gonna come out this show.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_02: People bet yes, people bet no, and you could win a bet off just that.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_02: I seen a I seen a bet about the uh the resurrection.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_02: Uh not the resurrection, I'm sorry, the the the coming of Christ.
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_02: Like you could bet, like what happens first.
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_02: Like, does the war in Iran end or does it or does Christ come back?
• 1:01:17
  SPEAKER_02: That's good.
• 1:01:18
  SPEAKER_02: Legitimately you can go bet on that.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_02: It's like a sport.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, people, you know.
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_02: I respect the good scam.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's a great scam right there.
• 1:01:25
  SPEAKER_02: What are you betting though?
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_03: It don't matter.
• 1:01:27
  SPEAKER_03: I'm you're never gonna win.
• 1:01:29
  SPEAKER_02: Like, by the time Jesus comes, you're not gonna cash out.
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_02: Like I was just saying, bro.
• 1:01:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_02: I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't like how gambling is just normal.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, that that comes with, I mean, damn.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um, that comes really with like, you know, the way society's moving nowadays, bro.
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, we're making like things so so so easy.
• 1:01:49
  SPEAKER_00: Life is like so, so easy, bro.
• 1:01:52
  SPEAKER_00: So easy.
• 1:01:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like now.
• 1:01:53
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it it it depends, obviously, the context, but like, yeah, you know, like now there's apps, like, you know, you got lottery apps, you got all this.
• 1:02:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it's just like on your phone.
• 1:02:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they want us, they want us to own nothing, and eventually our universal basic income is gonna be a thing where they're just gonna pay up because the jobs are all about to disappear.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_02: Once once AI takes over, yeah, most jobs are gonna be automated, so they're gonna have to just pay niggas to just exist.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_02: And then when that happens, hey, gamble.
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_02: Well, you might as well.
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's not even real money.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_02: And then, like, what's the end?
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_02: So if you are, if you're if if this whole situation happened with offset and you come out like, yo, stick owe me money, this and that, you're doing that because you're not expecting to get the money.
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, the money's burnt, because I'm not.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not giving you no money.
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the money's burnt.
• 1:02:38
  SPEAKER_02: You just want niggas to know he's a piece of shit.
• 1:02:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay.
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the money's burnt.
• 1:02:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:43
  SPEAKER_02: You know?
• 1:02:43
  unknown: Yeah.
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_02: And then I'm I'm offended.
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_02: Once I heard the big homie CC say that shit, like, if if he don't pay you, he thinks you're pussy.
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_02: I'm tight.
• 1:02:49
  SPEAKER_02: Which by the way, I got now I gotta shoot that nigga too.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_00: I got too many bad stories about like lending people money.
• 1:02:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like, like I.
• 1:02:55
  SPEAKER_02: Can you give us one, please?
• 1:02:57
  SPEAKER_00: Please, Mike, please.
• 1:03:01
  SPEAKER_00: There was this chicken my job.
• 1:03:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you got him.
• 1:03:06
  SPEAKER_00: And um, I don't even know.
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_00: This was probably like two years ago.
• 1:03:09
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_00: I just say five.
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_00: Just protect yourself.
• 1:03:12
  SPEAKER_00: She was Dominican.
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I don't you know what's funny?
• 1:03:15
  SPEAKER_00: Never even met the cat.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like in person.
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_00: You know, this how this is how you know I got got.
• 1:03:21
  SPEAKER_00: No, I got you, I got you.
• 1:03:23
  SPEAKER_00: So this came from somebody, you know, that worked there too, that you know, I trust my homeboy, whatever, this and that.
• 1:03:29
  SPEAKER_00: And um, you know, he kind of, yo, this, you know, he connected us basically.
• 1:03:33
  SPEAKER_00: And she asked, I I forgot what was the initial whatever.
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um, she used to like, um, whatever.
• 1:03:40
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't matter.
• 1:03:40
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
• 1:03:41
  SPEAKER_00: So I lent her, I got you, I got you.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to make this short.
• 1:03:43
  SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to make this short.
• 1:03:44
  SPEAKER_00: So um, point is, bro, I lent her like$200.
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_00: And she's like, yo, I got you two weeks, whatever.
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_00: This isn't mind you.
• 1:03:50
  SPEAKER_00: I never met this person.
• 1:03:51
  SPEAKER_00: I lent her the money, really like trusting your man.
• 1:03:55
  SPEAKER_00: My man's.
• 1:03:56
  SPEAKER_00: You feel me?
• 1:03:57
  SPEAKER_00: That was a mistake.
• 1:03:58
  SPEAKER_00: My boy, you know, I'm like, oh, yo, you know.
• 1:04:00
  SPEAKER_00: But, you know, he, I mean, he didn't really pitch it, like, yo, this is my this is my sis or whatever.
• 1:04:05
  SPEAKER_00: But he's like, yo, you know, yeah, you cool, whatever.
• 1:04:07
  SPEAKER_00: You know, works it, you know.
• 1:04:09
  SPEAKER_00: And um, bro, and I tell you, bro, it took me, bro, like 15 months to get that$200 back.
• 1:04:18
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you got it back?
• 1:04:19
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's come on, son.
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_00: Bro, you got it back.
• 1:04:22
  SPEAKER_00: Bro, after 15 months, bro, and I and no, no, no, and I didn't even get it all at once.
• 1:04:28
  SPEAKER_00: And you don't know how much trouble I had to go through texting and this and that.
• 1:04:32
  SPEAKER_00: And bro, the entitlement these people have, like, you owe me money.
• 1:04:36
  SPEAKER_00: And they mad.
• 1:04:36
  SPEAKER_00: And they mad.
• 1:04:37
  SPEAKER_00: They mad that you coming to collect.
• 1:04:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, of course.
• 1:04:39
  SPEAKER_00: You feel me?
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it feels great.
• 1:04:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, bro.
• 1:04:42
  SPEAKER_00: You don't know, bro.
• 1:04:42
  SPEAKER_00: There was times I show my boy once.
• 1:04:44
  SPEAKER_00: There was a time, bro.
• 1:04:45
  SPEAKER_00: I I hit this person up probably like seven times back to back.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yo, like, pay up, like, what's up?
• 1:04:52
  SPEAKER_00: No response, phone call, this and that.
• 1:04:54
  SPEAKER_00: And then she'll call me regular, random days.
• 1:04:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yo, this and that, you know, this happened, my fault, this and that.
• 1:04:59
  SPEAKER_00: And then when the payment started, we like slowly started getting there.
• 1:05:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yo, um, I got you Friday.
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_00: Friday came.
• 1:05:06
  SPEAKER_00: There was like a few of those before the actual transaction started happening.
• 1:05:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then it was like, here's 50.
• 1:05:12
  SPEAKER_00: Here's another 50.
• 1:05:13
  SPEAKER_00: Bro, it was it was crazy, bro.
• 1:05:15
  SPEAKER_00: I think um, I think um, don't ask me for money.
• 1:05:19
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody out there, don't ask me for the money.
• 1:05:21
  SPEAKER_00: If you're not my mom, and I might have to like get the paperwork or the house or something, like you know.
• 1:05:27
  SPEAKER_03: I heard uh a good saying AG, yeah, guys.
• 1:05:32
  SPEAKER_03: Oh man.
• 1:05:33
  SPEAKER_03: About to get cooked up.
• 1:05:34
  SPEAKER_03: Because I believe in being accountable.
• 1:05:37
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 1:05:37
  SPEAKER_03: And be and holding yourself accountable.
• 1:05:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, sir.
• 1:05:42
  SPEAKER_03: I'm the homeboy.
• 1:05:43
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, this is the money.
• 1:05:48
  SPEAKER_02: I'm the one that moved to the girl.
• 1:05:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:50
  SPEAKER_02: Of course it was you.
• 1:05:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, my bad.
• 1:05:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but good, but good for uh whole.
• 1:05:55
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes you just think co workers are like because y'all share a couple laughs, you think, oh, yeah, they're home.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_02: Have met her, yeah.
• 1:06:01
  SPEAKER_02: I used to work with her uh like on a daily.
• 1:06:03
  SPEAKER_02: We had we worked at the same job, but what she need the money for?
• 1:06:05
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 1:06:06
  SPEAKER_02: She just I don't I don't I don't remember.
• 1:06:08
  SPEAKER_02: She never asked me for it.
• 1:06:09
  SPEAKER_02: Did she ask me?
• 1:06:10
  SPEAKER_02: Because I I had the money.
• 1:06:11
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know what happened.
• 1:06:12
  SPEAKER_02: You didn't get on the pod.
• 1:06:14
  SPEAKER_02: Nah.
• 1:06:14
  SPEAKER_00: Well, but that way I can finally see her face.
• 1:06:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that'd be cool.
• 1:06:18
  SPEAKER_03: Shit.
• 1:06:19
  SPEAKER_03: She might steal one of these lights or something.
• 1:06:21
  SPEAKER_00: Right, yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:22
  SPEAKER_00: She sus.
• 1:06:22
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:06:23
  SPEAKER_00: Well, go ahead.
• 1:06:23
  SPEAKER_02: I was trying to save her, you know, and I really but there's a good saying, it's like if you borrow money from somebody, if you borrow money from me and you don't pay me back, you did me a favor because that was the price of not having in my life.
• 1:06:36
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
• 1:06:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:36
  SPEAKER_00: That's how I view it, honestly.
• 1:06:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like the way I view it is like, it costs me, I mean, I didn't even know this person, so I guess it's really apply here.
• 1:06:44
  SPEAKER_00: That was that's my bad, but uh cut that nigga off for the 200.
• 1:06:47
  SPEAKER_00: It cost me$200 to learn that lesson with her.
• 1:06:50
  SPEAKER_00: But really, the way I see it, because I can't I can't get it of her, but that was the last time I let people borrow after like that.
• 1:06:58
  SPEAKER_00: And um, the way I view it is like, I guess like it cost me that to learn the whole lesson.
• 1:07:03
  SPEAKER_00: That was your pay for the flag.
• 1:07:04
  SPEAKER_00: And then another I learned another thing.
• 1:07:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I should have no, I should have seen the red flags by like, like, bro, I don't even know you.
• 1:07:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like, how are you asking me for money?
• 1:07:16
  SPEAKER_00: That's a lot of money.
• 1:07:16
  SPEAKER_00: Bro, that's a lot of money.
• 1:07:17
  SPEAKER_00: That's like a stranger.
• 1:07:18
  SPEAKER_00: That's not like a quick 20.
• 1:07:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, no, no.
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_02: You feel me?
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_02: That's she was bold to that.
• 1:07:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um she really needed that money, bro.
• 1:07:23
  SPEAKER_00: And um I should have seen that, you know.
• 1:07:26
  SPEAKER_00: That's you know, accountability on me too.
• 1:07:28
  SPEAKER_00: But um, yeah, don't ask me for money.
• 1:07:31
  SPEAKER_02: It's the same way a little TJ should have seen that from offset.
• 1:07:33
  SPEAKER_02: You thought that was like you asking me for 10?
• 1:07:36
  SPEAKER_02: Like, but that's nothing offset.
• 1:07:38
  SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:07:39
  SPEAKER_02: That probably wasn't much to TJ either.
• 1:07:42
  SPEAKER_03: I feel you, but like I don't even know you.
• 1:07:45
  SPEAKER_03: Nah, but we we co-workers.
• 1:07:47
  SPEAKER_01: I guess.
• 1:07:48
  SPEAKER_02: And and I could probably get a feature off of this.
• 1:07:51
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 1:07:52
  SPEAKER_02: I'm TJ.
• 1:07:53
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, no disrespect TJ.
• 1:07:54
  SPEAKER_02: He's kind of cold.
• 1:07:55
  SPEAKER_02: No, you're right.
• 1:07:55
  SPEAKER_02: Offset feature would help TJ.
• 1:07:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it would help TJ.
• 1:07:58
  SPEAKER_02: Definitely.
• 1:07:58
  SPEAKER_02: Fucking 10,000, all right.
• 1:07:59
  SPEAKER_02: But then that nigga was just like where do you think this goes?
• 1:08:03
  unknown: No.
• 1:08:05
  SPEAKER_02: It's unfortunate with the whole takeoff thing.
• 1:08:07
  SPEAKER_02: Imagine we would have lost offset too.
• 1:08:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, I think I think it goes nowhere.
• 1:08:10
  SPEAKER_02: I think anytime them niggas see each other, they probably crash, but they they don't probably not go see.
• 1:08:16
  SPEAKER_02: Crash was a bullet.
• 1:08:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, crashing could be.
• 1:08:18
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying that like I'm not saying it lightly, but I just I genuinely think that like this is the worst that could happen.
• 1:08:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think that's it.
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't think we see nothing comes from this ever again.
• 1:08:28
  SPEAKER_02: Hopefully not, but I I think you're underestimating how where this could go.
• 1:08:32
  SPEAKER_02: No, I I probably I possibly could.
• 1:08:34
  SPEAKER_02: But I'm maybe it's just random niggas walk around with Yeah, maybe it's just wishful thinking of my.
• 1:08:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:39
  SPEAKER_02: TJ got off lucky, offset.
• 1:08:40
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody got off lucky.
• 1:08:41
  SPEAKER_02: Unless TJ's about to do Fed time for that.
• 1:08:43
  SPEAKER_02: Which I what I don't like is him getting shot, though.
• 1:08:46
  SPEAKER_03: I him owing money and all that, that's whack, right?
• 1:08:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:08:49
  SPEAKER_03: But he has an addiction, right?
• 1:08:50
  SPEAKER_03: So I guess whatever.
• 1:08:51
  SPEAKER_03: But we shooting a fair.
• 1:08:54
  SPEAKER_03: You losing.
• 1:08:55
  SPEAKER_03: Take the L.
• 1:08:56
  SPEAKER_02: Nah, nigga, I'm shooting you.
• 1:08:57
  SPEAKER_02: Well, not me personally.
• 1:08:58
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm a man's is shooting you.
• 1:09:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:09:00
  SPEAKER_02: I'm an old school nigga.
• 1:09:01
  SPEAKER_02: I would have just, ah, he got me.
• 1:09:02
  SPEAKER_02: He beat me up.
• 1:09:03
  SPEAKER_02: Fuck it.
• 1:09:04
  SPEAKER_02: But every time I see you, it's gonna be a hard fight, though.
• 1:09:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:09:08
  SPEAKER_02: You're gonna feel it.
• 1:09:09
  SPEAKER_02: I'll lose a fight, but we're gonna fight every time I see you.
• 1:09:11
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna crash every time.
• 1:09:12
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, the shooting shit is whack.
• 1:09:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's a whack thing too.
• 1:09:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, where where the fist went, you know, like you know lost in his gym.
• 1:09:22
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, we could move on.
• 1:09:23
  SPEAKER_02: That nigga lost.
• 1:09:24
  SPEAKER_02: But um, let's let's go to Atlanta.
• 1:09:25
  SPEAKER_02: You brought up Atlanta.
• 1:09:27
  SPEAKER_02: We got Gucci.
• 1:09:28
  SPEAKER_02: Then you brought up Crash Dummies.
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, wow, look at that.
• 1:09:30
  SPEAKER_02: We're really professionals up there.
• 1:09:32
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, Gucci Man, LaFlare.
• 1:09:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um, Gucci dropped a song called Crash Dummies or Crash Dummy.
• 1:09:41
  SPEAKER_02: And I got about four bars into the song once I realized what the song was.
• 1:09:45
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I can't play it on.
• 1:09:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, you're gonna get Gucci gonna shut us down.
• 1:09:49
  SPEAKER_02: Um and I told niggas last week that Gucci probably is a rat, but now I know he's a rat.
• 1:09:56
  SPEAKER_02: For two things.
• 1:09:57
  SPEAKER_02: One, some paperwork came out that uh AG, you be right sometimes.
• 1:10:01
  SPEAKER_02: I'll be right a lot, I think, but it's okay.
• 1:10:03
  SPEAKER_02: I'll I'll take it sometimes.
• 1:10:04
  SPEAKER_02: Eventually, you're gonna be you're just gonna say AG, you right.
• 1:10:07
  SPEAKER_02: Eventually, we'll get there.
• 1:10:08
  SPEAKER_02: We'll get there together.
• 1:10:09
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I'll be right sometimes.
• 1:10:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh, Gucci Man's a rat and um Gunnar's a rat.
• 1:10:15
  SPEAKER_02: Um why is that song not dry snitching?
• 1:10:18
  SPEAKER_02: That song is snitching.
• 1:10:19
  SPEAKER_02: Why is it not dry snitching?
• 1:10:21
  SPEAKER_02: Because he already made a statement.
• 1:10:23
  SPEAKER_02: He already made a statement.
• 1:10:24
  SPEAKER_02: In the song you sing or something?
• 1:10:26
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, he made a statement with the with the FBI.
• 1:10:29
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, he identified Pooh Shice did.
• 1:10:31
  SPEAKER_02: He did?
• 1:10:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:10:33
  SPEAKER_02: From what I saw.
• 1:10:34
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 1:10:35
  SPEAKER_02: And the song is just, he basically, but again, Luigi Man's a businessman.
• 1:10:40
  SPEAKER_02: But again, I don't like when niggas get to play both sides.
• 1:10:43
  SPEAKER_02: This is my problem with the Gunner thing.
• 1:10:44
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna sound like a broken record.
• 1:10:46
  SPEAKER_02: Niggas is like, oh, Gunnar won a he's just a rapper.
• 1:10:48
  SPEAKER_02: He makes he makes good music, he's not a gangster.
• 1:10:51
  SPEAKER_02: But Gunner is a crip.
• 1:10:53
  SPEAKER_02: You cannot jack both things.
• 1:10:54
  SPEAKER_02: Now, you know who I expect to tell?
• 1:10:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um, what's the what's Don Tolliver's big brother's name?
• 1:11:01
  SPEAKER_03: Don't do that.
• 1:11:01
  SPEAKER_02: Travis Scott.
• 1:11:02
  SPEAKER_02: I expect niggas like Travis Scott.
• 1:11:04
  SPEAKER_02: Travis Scott don't make music about shooting niggas.
• 1:11:07
  SPEAKER_02: Travis Scott's not gang banging, Travis Scott is a vibe.
• 1:11:10
  SPEAKER_02: That's the shit he makes.
• 1:11:11
  SPEAKER_02: Now, if he get punched in his shit and he's like, nah, gunner punching my shit, and I gotta get surgery.
• 1:11:15
  SPEAKER_02: That nigga needs to go to jail.
• 1:11:16
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not mad at that.
• 1:11:17
  SPEAKER_02: That's not hip hop.
• 1:11:18
  SPEAKER_02: And he impressed Arsenal on ASAP Rocky when they got up.
• 1:11:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's not hip hop.
• 1:11:22
  SPEAKER_02: Travis Scott held it down for that.
• 1:11:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I expect niggas like that to tell.
• 1:11:26
  SPEAKER_02: But gonna, no, Gucci Man, no, you can't tell.
• 1:11:29
  SPEAKER_02: What was supposed to happen was all right, little nigga, you won that little thing.
• 1:11:32
  SPEAKER_02: You still on the contract because that's just not gonna maybe that's why he had to tell.
• 1:11:37
  SPEAKER_02: Because he didn't want to lose the artist.
• 1:11:40
  SPEAKER_02: Because if he doesn't tell, they're gonna be like, well, how did this get signed?
• 1:11:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, maybe that's why he didn't tell.
• 1:11:45
  SPEAKER_02: But I mean, that's why he told.
• 1:11:46
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe that's why he told.
• 1:11:47
  SPEAKER_02: But you're supposed to eat that.
• 1:11:48
  SPEAKER_02: You're supposed to let that nigga walk and then finish it in the streets.
• 1:11:50
  SPEAKER_02: I'm glad that both these brothers are alive, but I would rather not see Pushai in jail for the rest of his life because I enjoy his music, number one, and number two, he's a black man.
• 1:11:58
  SPEAKER_02: But Pooh Shisey did something stupid, which Gucci man, that's the only thing Gucci Man was right about.
• 1:12:02
  SPEAKER_02: He did some crash dummy shit because at the end of the day, your music is gonna go up.
• 1:12:06
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna go up, but at what cost?
• 1:12:09
  SPEAKER_02: It's so sad, bro.
• 1:12:10
  SPEAKER_02: My name in the streets is dead now.
• 1:12:11
  SPEAKER_02: Gucci's name in the streets is dead.
• 1:12:13
  SPEAKER_02: But does that matter to Gucci Man in 2026?
• 1:12:16
  SPEAKER_02: His name is dead?
• 1:12:17
  SPEAKER_02: His name is dead, though.
• 1:12:18
  SPEAKER_02: You claiming that?
• 1:12:18
  SPEAKER_02: Also, Street Shit, he can't.
• 1:12:19
  SPEAKER_02: Nah, he can't do that.
• 1:12:21
  SPEAKER_02: I seen like Gucci fans.
• 1:12:22
  SPEAKER_02: First of all, the G Z fans was going crazy.
• 1:12:24
  SPEAKER_02: They were like, yeah, we we were right.
• 1:12:26
  SPEAKER_02: The young GZ fans was like, yeah, we were right.
• 1:12:28
  SPEAKER_02: Our man stayed solid.
• 1:12:29
  SPEAKER_02: He lost, he lost somebody.
• 1:12:30
  SPEAKER_02: Pookie, Pookie Loke who Gucci Man was smoking on a couple of years ago.
• 1:12:34
  SPEAKER_02: He lost, and he didn't tell.
• 1:12:36
  SPEAKER_02: So that's how I look at it, man.
• 1:12:40
  SPEAKER_02: Why do you think the song was ratting though?
• 1:12:42
  SPEAKER_02: Because he expla he he said he told us what happened.
• 1:12:46
  SPEAKER_02: These niggas came and committed a crime.
• 1:12:47
  SPEAKER_02: They robbed me.
• 1:12:48
  SPEAKER_02: Like, come on, son.
• 1:12:50
  SPEAKER_02: You can't do that.
• 1:12:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you he he did mention, like, oh, that paperwork is not valid.
• 1:12:54
  SPEAKER_02: You still under contract?
• 1:12:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like come on, son.
• 1:12:56
  SPEAKER_02: The first three bars of that song was was heartbreaking to me.
• 1:12:58
  SPEAKER_02: But again, he's a businessman.
• 1:13:01
  SPEAKER_02: But who's advising these people?
• 1:13:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like his wife.
• 1:13:03
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of people are blaming the wife.
• 1:13:06
  SPEAKER_02: She she thinks she's more solid than that, though.
• 1:13:09
  SPEAKER_02: Solid than what?
• 1:13:10
  SPEAKER_02: Protecting his life, protecting his money, protecting his legacy?
• 1:13:12
  SPEAKER_02: I'm pretty that's pretty solid.
• 1:13:13
  SPEAKER_02: She's not thinking.
• 1:13:14
  SPEAKER_02: I think she would advise against it.
• 1:13:16
  SPEAKER_02: Like against the song?
• 1:13:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:13:19
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I just her personality.
• 1:13:20
  SPEAKER_02: Like, it don't make sense to nobody.
• 1:13:22
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody thinks that was a good idea.
• 1:13:23
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, maybe he just came with that on his own, but yeah, that was definitely a misstep on his part.
• 1:13:27
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't realize how young Pooh Shistie was.
• 1:13:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's he's about to go, he's gonna be in jail until he's like 70 if everything goes the way they're saying.
• 1:13:35
  SPEAKER_02: What's his best case scenario?
• 1:13:36
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not too keen on the law when it comes to this specific thing, but um I seen some places saying he can get 10 if if Gucci and uh associates don't cooperate 110%, which is looking like they're going to.
• 1:13:49
  SPEAKER_02: But he that was dumb.
• 1:13:51
  SPEAKER_02: That whole thing was dumb.
• 1:13:53
  SPEAKER_02: But I actually think this would be good for the culture in the long run because maybe the older gentleman in hip hop will let go of this gangster street shit, and then the younger guys will realize that this is not the path.
• 1:14:07
  SPEAKER_02: What Pooh Shacy did was not the path.
• 1:14:09
  SPEAKER_02: I should have lawyered up, I should have got with Jay-Z, I should have got there gotta be some big, I mean Gucci is the big homie of the South.
• 1:14:16
  SPEAKER_02: No, I should have got with Yo Gotti.
• 1:14:18
  SPEAKER_02: I should have been like, yo, Yo Gotti, we're from the same city.
• 1:14:20
  SPEAKER_02: You wanted to sign me.
• 1:14:21
  SPEAKER_02: I signed with Gucci, that was a mistake.
• 1:14:22
  SPEAKER_02: Help me get out of this deal.
• 1:14:24
  SPEAKER_02: But then there's the conspiracy theory that Yogati's the one that sent them on this.
• 1:14:27
  SPEAKER_03: Is Yogati um treading dangerous waters?
• 1:14:32
  SPEAKER_02: I think ever since the Dolph thing.
• 1:14:34
  SPEAKER_02: I was about to say, they they got his name in that too.
• 1:14:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he he he if I'm him, I'm lawyering up, I'm buttoning up.
• 1:14:40
  SPEAKER_02: I'm whoever knows where the bodies are buried, let them, hey, you go take a chance.
• 1:14:44
  SPEAKER_02: Not only that, I'm not I'm living in like somewhere else.
• 1:14:46
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not around.
• 1:14:47
  SPEAKER_02: I'm seeing what's going on.
• 1:14:48
  SPEAKER_02: There's there's been an attack on hip-hop for the last, I would say, five years with the young thug stuff.
• 1:14:53
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, you know, Gucci man.
• 1:14:54
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I if I'm him, I'm definitely keeping my ears up.
• 1:14:58
  SPEAKER_02: And then his girl, his ex flirting with Cam Newton.
• 1:15:00
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that's charts of the game, man.
• 1:15:04
  SPEAKER_03: Down in the damn.
• 1:15:05
  SPEAKER_03: They go down.
• 1:15:05
  SPEAKER_03: He got money.
• 1:15:06
  unknown: Yeah?
• 1:15:07
  SPEAKER_02: Shout out your girl.
• 1:15:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yo, that he got money.
• 1:15:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:15:09
  SPEAKER_02: I'm waiting for a Money Bag Yo album.
• 1:15:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I need that.
• 1:15:12
  SPEAKER_02: That's what that I think Money Bag Yo is pretty underrated.
• 1:15:14
  SPEAKER_02: A hundred percent.
• 1:15:15
  SPEAKER_02: Think he's underrated.
• 1:15:16
  SPEAKER_02: He makes good music.
• 1:15:16
  SPEAKER_02: What do you think about skitty?
• 1:15:17
  SPEAKER_02: What do you think about Skitty Yo?
• 1:15:19
  SPEAKER_02: Think it's gonna be the same?
• 1:15:21
  SPEAKER_02: You know, they say when they lose that weight, um, it's different.
• 1:15:25
  SPEAKER_02: I think he's doing what he thinks he's supposed to do.
• 1:15:27
  SPEAKER_02: He's supposed he he got with the girl.
• 1:15:29
  SPEAKER_02: He got because he was trying girls.
• 1:15:30
  SPEAKER_02: He was with Meg for a little while.
• 1:15:32
  SPEAKER_02: Meg the Stalin?
• 1:15:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:15:33
  SPEAKER_02: He was trying, he did the industry shit with her.
• 1:15:35
  SPEAKER_02: Like he was trying to find a he's trying to go to the next level.
• 1:15:38
  SPEAKER_02: I've only remembered him with Ari.
• 1:15:40
  SPEAKER_02: Nah, right before Ari was Meg.
• 1:15:41
  SPEAKER_02: He tried to do the get a get the girl.
• 1:15:44
  SPEAKER_02: So he finally found the right one.
• 1:15:46
  SPEAKER_02: You tried to do the Jay-Z thing.
• 1:15:48
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think so.
• 1:15:48
  SPEAKER_02: But uh Oh, okay, okay.
• 1:15:50
  SPEAKER_02: Right, he groomed that one.
• 1:15:52
  SPEAKER_02: If you yeah, but if you feel that way.
• 1:15:53
  SPEAKER_02: See, I can admit that.
• 1:15:55
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's in here defending Kanye still.
• 1:15:57
  SPEAKER_02: But um, yeah, so I think he tried to, he's trying to change his, he's trying to go to the next level.
• 1:16:02
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, you gotta get the girl in your arm, the girl that everybody wants to be with.
• 1:16:05
  SPEAKER_02: And then, you know, you gotta get out into shape.
• 1:16:08
  SPEAKER_02: So he's trying to now he's trying to be the sex symbol, so the girls like him too.
• 1:16:10
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I fuck with uh Moneybag, yo, and I think he's a good rapper, and he makes good music.
• 1:16:14
  SPEAKER_02: So I think I think he'd be okay.
• 1:16:16
  SPEAKER_02: It's a little cold for him right now, but we wait on the album.
• 1:16:18
  SPEAKER_02: But uh, yeah, yo guardi needs to be careful.
• 1:16:20
  SPEAKER_02: But my advice to uh Gucci man, fuck it.
• 1:16:25
  SPEAKER_02: Just be like, yo, what the rest of the Atlanta niggas is doing?
• 1:16:28
  SPEAKER_02: Streets is dead, fuck the street.
• 1:16:30
  SPEAKER_02: We we businessmen now.
• 1:16:31
  SPEAKER_00: We go.
• 1:16:31
  SPEAKER_00: I was yeah, I was I was about to say, man, you know, I I wish the the music industry and you know the street, like kind of like acted more towards that, like where it's like, yo, it's business, you know?
• 1:16:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:16:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um but you know, a lot of people take it, take things too personal and you know, they got the street too involved.
• 1:16:50
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's because they're black, honestly.
• 1:16:52
  SPEAKER_02: I think um uh America allowed the mob to transition into business, and oh the mob, like they got they got polished, they got cleaned up mob mob movies do well.
• 1:17:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:17:03
  SPEAKER_02: Even hip hop, they we did we had a mafia also movement in hip-hop, but the black mob thing is is still in the street, it's still nasty, it's still, yeah, I'm gonna run into an executive and with guns and steal earrings.
• 1:17:14
  SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, nah, bro.
• 1:17:16
  SPEAKER_02: Like, we gotta get off that.
• 1:17:17
  SPEAKER_02: We gotta grow up, we gotta mature.
• 1:17:18
  SPEAKER_02: And I hope this is a domino effect, and all the other OGs really stand behind the fuck the streets thing because it's not making nobody any money.
• 1:17:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's the thing, man.
• 1:17:28
  SPEAKER_02: Like, we about to push.
• 1:17:29
  SPEAKER_02: I like Pooh Shice's music.
• 1:17:30
  SPEAKER_02: He was one of my favorite young rappers, and it's over.
• 1:17:33
  SPEAKER_02: They the the rapper Tay K.
• 1:17:35
  SPEAKER_02: I don't he wasn't, I don't think he's nearly as good as uh Pooh Shaisy, but his career, grand opening, grand closing.
• 1:17:42
  SPEAKER_02: Like he the race song, he lived his raps, and it's like, bro, like this is same thing with him.
• 1:17:48
  SPEAKER_02: It's like this is an art form.
• 1:17:49
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't think Denzel Washington is the equalizer.
• 1:17:52
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't think he's outside killing people, but I love watching him do it.
• 1:17:56
  SPEAKER_02: Right, that's it.
• 1:17:57
  SPEAKER_02: Just make the music.
• 1:17:57
  SPEAKER_02: It's that people want to live their raps too much, and it's like just tell the story, like how Nas did it.
• 1:18:02
  SPEAKER_02: Nas grew up in an impoverished neighborhood.
• 1:18:04
  SPEAKER_02: Nas was rapping about what he saw, what he lived through, but he's not actually going out there and committing these crimes.
• 1:18:09
  SPEAKER_00: And another thing is um back then, you know, like they had to kind of like like these guys came from the street, these guys, you know, like they actually, you know, grew up on that.
• 1:18:19
  SPEAKER_00: You know, now, you know, nowadays it's like these kids actually got like their parents, or at least are alive and stuff like that.
• 1:18:25
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like Pushai had both of his parents.
• 1:18:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, his dad was with him on this run.
• 1:18:30
  SPEAKER_02: But did you hear his mom talking to?
• 1:18:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he had no hope.
• 1:18:34
  SPEAKER_02: He had yeah, he had no chance.
• 1:18:35
  SPEAKER_02: There's nobody, bro.
• 1:18:36
  SPEAKER_02: His mom is wild.
• 1:18:37
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody's King Vaughn's mom is showing ass every week.
• 1:18:40
  SPEAKER_02: Still, I'm not mad, but she's showing ass every week.
• 1:18:43
  SPEAKER_02: Like, some of these niggas had no chance, but like, even still, yeah, there's enough OGs in all of these cities.
• 1:18:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:18:51
  SPEAKER_02: On the music fuck the streets, on the music tip.
• 1:18:53
  SPEAKER_02: You telling me King Vaughn couldn't have reached out, maybe not Kanye, but he couldn't have reached out to Common.
• 1:18:58
  SPEAKER_02: He couldn't have reached out to the King Louis.
• 1:19:00
  SPEAKER_02: There's a bunch of dudes in every major city that have done the shit you already doing that can help you and instead.
• 1:19:08
  SPEAKER_02: So I I I know you don't like this name.
• 1:19:10
  SPEAKER_02: What's up?
• 1:19:11
  SPEAKER_03: But is this in any way vindicating or cleaning up 6ix9ine's actions?
• 1:19:19
  SPEAKER_02: No, and I I'm glad you brought him up.
• 1:19:20
  SPEAKER_02: Good question.
• 1:19:21
  SPEAKER_02: 6ix9ine's a fucking clown.
• 1:19:23
  SPEAKER_02: First of all, he's trying to say that because he's not black, that that's why niggas is calling him a rat.
• 1:19:31
  SPEAKER_02: He's wrong.
• 1:19:32
  SPEAKER_02: Number one.
• 1:19:32
  SPEAKER_02: Niggas is calling you a rat because you're a rat.
• 1:19:35
  SPEAKER_02: Just like how they're calling Gucci man.
• 1:19:37
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sitting right here calling Gucci man a rat.
• 1:19:39
  SPEAKER_02: I I don't hear it.
• 1:19:40
  SPEAKER_02: It ain't loud.
• 1:19:41
  SPEAKER_02: Cause number one, Gucci, because Gucci kills the Young Thug rat thing wasn't like that.
• 1:19:45
  SPEAKER_02: No, because Young Thug's not a rat.
• 1:19:47
  SPEAKER_02: Because he didn't make a statement.
• 1:19:49
  SPEAKER_02: He did, he didn't.
• 1:19:50
  SPEAKER_02: But rap means talking to police.
• 1:19:51
  SPEAKER_02: No, it don't.
• 1:19:52
  SPEAKER_02: That's what they say.
• 1:19:53
  SPEAKER_02: Well, the number one rule in the streets ain't no rule in the streets.
• 1:19:56
  SPEAKER_02: So they can say whatever they want.
• 1:19:58
  SPEAKER_02: He didn't rat.
• 1:19:58
  SPEAKER_02: But that's a new rule.
• 1:20:00
  SPEAKER_02: That was not no, that's not a big, that's not an OG rule.
• 1:20:02
  SPEAKER_02: Gunnar ratted and niggas call Gunner a rat.
• 1:20:05
  SPEAKER_02: Gucci Man ratted.
• 1:20:07
  SPEAKER_02: Is there anybody saying that Gucci Man's not a rat?
• 1:20:09
  SPEAKER_02: Are you hearing this?
• 1:20:10
  SPEAKER_02: I don't.
• 1:20:10
  SPEAKER_02: I okay.
• 1:20:11
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think that Atlanta artists, Lil Baby, I don't think they're gonna be vocal like they were with 6ix9ine.
• 1:20:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because because uh 6ix9ine was antagonizing people.
• 1:20:20
  SPEAKER_02: No, he was defending himself because they were antagonizing people.
• 1:20:24
  SPEAKER_02: Before he ratted, 6ix9ine was walking around like he was Teflon.
• 1:20:28
  SPEAKER_02: Like he was a gangster and everybody knew he wasn't.
• 1:20:30
  SPEAKER_02: But what was Gucci Man doing nothing for him?
• 1:20:32
  SPEAKER_02: No, but Gucci Man killed somebody.
• 1:20:33
  SPEAKER_02: We know this.
• 1:20:34
  SPEAKER_02: In self-defense.
• 1:20:35
  SPEAKER_02: So what?
• 1:20:37
  SPEAKER_02: What?
• 1:20:37
  SPEAKER_02: It ain't like it's not that he ran down on somebody and killed them off some gangster.
• 1:20:42
  SPEAKER_02: No, but Gucci Man is certified in his neighborhood.
• 1:20:45
  SPEAKER_02: But he did the same thing a white man would do.
• 1:20:47
  SPEAKER_02: Who would a Gucci?
• 1:20:48
  SPEAKER_02: It don't matter.
• 1:20:49
  SPEAKER_02: He's certified.
• 1:20:50
  SPEAKER_02: That's why I agree with that.
• 1:20:51
  SPEAKER_02: I agree with that.
• 1:20:51
  SPEAKER_02: I agree with that.
• 1:20:52
  SPEAKER_02: That's all in his if you go to Gucci Man's neighborhood.
• 1:20:54
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
• 1:20:54
  SPEAKER_02: He's he stamped.
• 1:20:55
  SPEAKER_02: He's stamped.
• 1:20:55
  SPEAKER_02: 6ix9ine from the jump was a weirdo Mexican nigga that was in the hood wearing HIV age shirts and tattooing 6ix9ine all over his.
• 1:21:05
  SPEAKER_02: He was a weirdo, like edge boy.
• 1:21:07
  SPEAKER_02: Why is everybody not like, yo, we should have known he was gonna rat?
• 1:21:09
  SPEAKER_02: Why we even that's what everybody said.
• 1:21:11
  SPEAKER_02: No, they were they were mad, like nigga, you should have stood on shit.
• 1:21:15
  SPEAKER_02: No, they told him if you was really Billy, if you was really blood, well, this is what blood and Billy niggas do, and we knew you was gonna rat.
• 1:21:23
  SPEAKER_02: That's what everybody said.
• 1:21:24
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody knew he was gonna tell.
• 1:21:25
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody was shocked besides one person I know personally that he ratted.
• 1:21:29
  SPEAKER_02: I I don't know.
• 1:21:30
  SPEAKER_02: I think people were shocked.
• 1:21:31
  SPEAKER_02: No, bro.
• 1:21:32
  SPEAKER_02: I promise you, bro.
• 1:21:33
  SPEAKER_02: No, but I was potting at the time.
• 1:21:35
  SPEAKER_02: It's document.
• 1:21:35
  SPEAKER_02: Because I wasn't hearing people like told you so.
• 1:21:37
  SPEAKER_02: No, that's that's what we heard.
• 1:21:39
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, niggas knew he was gonna rat, and he's playing this fucking clown cake ass game, talking about, oh, it's because of the color of my skin or because I'm a Mexican nigga with rainbow hair.
• 1:21:49
  SPEAKER_02: No, nigga, you a rat because you're a rat.
• 1:21:50
  SPEAKER_02: And we all knew he was gonna tell because he's not a gangster.
• 1:21:53
  SPEAKER_02: I agree, I agree with what I agree that he's a rat and on the and a clown, but I also agree that he's getting more vigor in the reaction because he's not one of us.
• 1:22:04
  SPEAKER_02: No, because if um let me if uh if this dude ratted, um Mexican OT, maybe he's a bad example because he's gonna be.
• 1:22:13
  SPEAKER_02: Gunner did pretty much not exactly what 6ix9ine did, but but close to.
• 1:22:17
  SPEAKER_02: They both told, yeah.
• 1:22:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they both told.
• 1:22:19
  SPEAKER_02: 6ix9ine got treated 10 times worse than Gunner.
• 1:22:21
  SPEAKER_02: Because Gunner, again, didn't antagonize.
• 1:22:25
  SPEAKER_02: Gunner was not walking around talking about I'm the biggest, yo, I don't know if you remember.
• 1:22:30
  SPEAKER_02: 6ix9ine and his crew.
• 1:22:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yo, 6ix9ine did the Pooh Shistie to Lucian Grain's son.
• 1:22:39
  SPEAKER_02: That's like the biggest.
• 1:22:40
  SPEAKER_02: What is he?
• 1:22:40
  SPEAKER_02: What is he over?
• 1:22:41
  SPEAKER_02: Um he's with Atlantic out there.
• 1:22:44
  SPEAKER_02: Atlantic.
• 1:22:44
  SPEAKER_02: So there's only like three uh uh music companies, really.
• 1:22:48
  SPEAKER_02: There's only three of them.
• 1:22:49
  SPEAKER_02: So the son of one of the bosses of a music company, yeah, 6ix9ine.
• 1:22:53
  SPEAKER_02: Bro, Lucian is with universal universal, yeah.
• 1:22:55
  SPEAKER_02: So Universal, the the son, the the nigga that runs Universal, his son, 6ix9ine was signed to him.
• 1:23:00
  SPEAKER_02: 6ix9ine wanted either out of his contract or a better contract, and he went there with gangsters with bloods, and they they in midtime at hand, and they were shooting guns.
• 1:23:09
  SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
• 1:23:10
  SPEAKER_02: You you see what I'm saying?
• 1:23:11
  SPEAKER_02: So he was doing gunner, did none of these things.
• 1:23:14
  SPEAKER_02: Gunner was just really easy.
• 1:23:16
  SPEAKER_02: No, he was not.
• 1:23:16
  SPEAKER_02: That's the whole point.
• 1:23:17
  SPEAKER_02: That's the whole point.
• 1:23:20
  SPEAKER_02: He was a man, he was a manufacturer.
• 1:23:22
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody that's seen the 6ix9ine shit play out, and you didn't even have to be a street nigga to know that they was using that kid.
• 1:23:28
  SPEAKER_02: That that was the whole thing.
• 1:23:29
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't like 6ix9ine.
• 1:23:30
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not defending the city.
• 1:23:31
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, I get it because on its face, it looks like, oh, aha, I was correct.
• 1:23:35
  SPEAKER_02: But it's it's not like niggas ain't calling Gucci Man.
• 1:23:37
  SPEAKER_02: If nobody was calling Gucci Man a rat, the only one that he has a good argument with, honestly, is was Gunner, because it was kind of like people were like, nah, we wait, we waiting on Thug, we waiting on Thug to see what Thug says.
• 1:23:47
  SPEAKER_02: So that he had a point there, but once Thug came out and said, I don't fuck with Gunner, majority of people consider Gunner a rat.
• 1:23:52
  SPEAKER_02: But it just doesn't matter because Gunnar makes good enough music.
• 1:23:55
  SPEAKER_02: But Thug is probably the only person he's kind of right with because you have niggas like me who if 6ix9ine, well, I I disagree.
• 1:24:02
  SPEAKER_02: Gunner didn't if if if uh 6ix9ine did what Thug did, I wouldn't have called 6ix9ine a rat either.
• 1:24:10
  unknown: Okay.
• 1:24:11
  SPEAKER_02: So I I understand where he's trying to come from, but playing the race card.
• 1:24:14
  SPEAKER_02: You didn't even put drawstones on Thug?
• 1:24:16
  SPEAKER_02: No type of stuff.
• 1:24:17
  SPEAKER_02: No, because what Young Thug did, let me explain, because Mike probably has no idea what the fuck we're talking about.
• 1:24:21
  SPEAKER_02: So imagine this, right?
• 1:24:22
  SPEAKER_02: Me and you, um we commit a crime.
• 1:24:27
  SPEAKER_02: We get bagged for it.
• 1:24:29
  SPEAKER_02: They can't really prove nothing.
• 1:24:31
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that if I go to the police and speak on your behalf and was like, nah, Mike was at Suzy's house the day y'all think we did that that crime.
• 1:24:44
  SPEAKER_02: But you already told the police that you was at Samantha's house.
• 1:24:49
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know that.
• 1:24:49
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm just trying to help you out, and by trying to help you out, it kind of made us both look like liars.
• 1:24:54
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 1:24:54
  SPEAKER_02: Is that snitching?
• 1:24:58
  SPEAKER_03: But wait, there's a there's another piece to it too.
• 1:25:00
  SPEAKER_03: What's the other piece?
• 1:25:00
  SPEAKER_03: They were talking about the sh the the Lil Wayne tour bus.
• 1:25:04
  SPEAKER_03: He said that he said something along the lines of like I don't know, I don't know if they I don't know who shot Lil Wayne's tour bus.
• 1:25:11
  SPEAKER_03: Um they said it was AG, but I don't think I don't know.
• 1:25:14
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think it was.
• 1:25:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he was trying to clear the dude's name.
• 1:25:17
  SPEAKER_02: The cops already have his name.
• 1:25:18
  SPEAKER_02: They said, I heard it was AG.
• 1:25:21
  SPEAKER_03: But this is this is what the streets would say.
• 1:25:23
  SPEAKER_03: If the cops already have his name, shut the fuck up.
• 1:25:25
  SPEAKER_03: Like, how are you even saying?
• 1:25:26
  SPEAKER_02: I hear that, and this is why I'm playing, I'm I'm admitting that I'm playing defense.
• 1:25:29
  SPEAKER_03: Because if the cops have his name and now you're saying you heard it was AG, the same name they got, you're saying.
• 1:25:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because you're showing you the cops are showing me the report, right?
• 1:25:35
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like, yeah, y'all, y'all saying it's him, I heard it's him, but I know it's not him.
• 1:25:39
  SPEAKER_02: He was at Susie's house.
• 1:25:41
  SPEAKER_02: He didn't say I know it's not him.
• 1:25:43
  SPEAKER_02: No, that's what he was implying was that that didn't happen because he was there this day, and then that guy's defense was not that.
• 1:25:50
  SPEAKER_02: He just tried to to fortiate the cops, which that's not his job.
• 1:25:53
  SPEAKER_02: That's a lawyer's job, but that's he was trying to do the honorable thing.
• 1:25:55
  SPEAKER_02: That's always been.
• 1:25:57
  SPEAKER_03: I just know I just from what I've heard, old school rules is.
• 1:26:00
  SPEAKER_02: No, don't talk to Felice, period, but that's that's a stupid rule.
• 1:26:03
  SPEAKER_02: Is actually I agree.
• 1:26:04
  SPEAKER_02: You can't even afford one, a public defender?
• 1:26:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and don't say nothing.
• 1:26:08
  SPEAKER_02: Let him talk.
• 1:26:08
  SPEAKER_02: No, I I got you, but again, Young Thug was thought he was trying to help out his friend.
• 1:26:13
  SPEAKER_02: That's not the same thing as, oh, shoddy is fucking my girl.
• 1:26:17
  SPEAKER_02: Because 6ix9ine found out that his the guy he was running around was fucking his girl.
• 1:26:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know what?
• 1:26:21
  SPEAKER_02: Them niggas did all those crimes.
• 1:26:22
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, I'm gonna, I I know they did those crimes and I did them with them.
• 1:26:26
  SPEAKER_02: And then half of them were like, yo, he wasn't even here for this stuff.
• 1:26:28
  SPEAKER_02: Like he didn't commit none of these crimes.
• 1:26:30
  SPEAKER_02: But he said he he saw them do these crimes and he did the that's snitching.
• 1:26:33
  SPEAKER_02: Like he was using these dudes as like armed, like they they pumped him and when they didn't, they they did some they did a lot of foul shit to him.
• 1:26:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:26:41
  SPEAKER_02: But again, you're you're a gangster, so handle it in the streets.
• 1:26:43
  SPEAKER_02: That like I don't I don't get that.
• 1:26:45
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, uh personally, I think what 6ix9ine is doing is corny.
• 1:26:48
  SPEAKER_02: I think he has no basis to stand on and him trying to play the race card.
• 1:26:52
  SPEAKER_02: Like, come on, dog.
• 1:26:54
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you can't play the race card in this situation.
• 1:26:55
  SPEAKER_02: That doesn't even make any fucking sense.
• 1:26:57
  SPEAKER_03: I agree, I agree that it's all corny.
• 1:26:58
  SPEAKER_02: I I'm just saying that it is putting an ugly mirror on the streets.
• 1:27:02
  SPEAKER_02: No, and I hope it does.
• 1:27:03
  SPEAKER_02: I hope it continues to do so.
• 1:27:04
  SPEAKER_02: But he's just not, he's a wrong wrong right message, wrong message.
• 1:27:07
  SPEAKER_02: I was just about to say that.
• 1:27:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:27:09
  SPEAKER_02: Like, like having somebody like 21 Savage do it, right messenger.
• 1:27:14
  SPEAKER_02: It's hypocritical, but you need the people that are in it, the people that the kids look up to to say it.
• 1:27:20
  SPEAKER_02: Like, if you get YB, young boy, to say, Oh, yeah, this street shit is whack, we on some business shit.
• 1:27:25
  SPEAKER_02: I think that changes the culture.
• 1:27:26
  SPEAKER_02: You get what I'm saying?
• 1:27:27
  SPEAKER_02: Six nine is not changing the culture, like which is tough because like can you still rap street shit while you say that?
• 1:27:32
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 1:27:33
  SPEAKER_02: So then now but you could do, like I said, you gotta you gotta get a better pen.
• 1:27:37
  SPEAKER_02: Like, look what Nas did.
• 1:27:38
  SPEAKER_02: Like, do what Nas does.
• 1:27:40
  SPEAKER_02: Like, oh yeah, that's easy.
• 1:27:42
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm not saying it is, but just try.
• 1:27:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, just just just just use metaphors.
• 1:27:47
  SPEAKER_02: Use hey, this is what we did on my block.
• 1:27:49
  SPEAKER_02: This was wrong, but this is how we had to survive.
• 1:27:51
  SPEAKER_02: Not yeah, this is what we did on my block, this is what I'm doing today, and this is what I'll do to you, and I'll come to your block and do it on your block too.
• 1:27:57
  SPEAKER_02: That's the problem.
• 1:27:58
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's all antagonized, it's all mirror.
• 1:28:00
  SPEAKER_02: Murder music and it's it's not getting us nowhere.
• 1:28:02
  SPEAKER_02: It's actually watering down the art form.
• 1:28:04
  SPEAKER_02: There's an artistic way to do everything.
• 1:28:06
  SPEAKER_02: Kendrick does it all the time.
• 1:28:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:28:07
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, don't be Nas, be Kendrick.
• 1:28:09
  SPEAKER_02: You think Kendrick can't rap anyway.
• 1:28:11
  SPEAKER_02: Bro, you're naming no superstars.
• 1:28:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm just I hope yeah, but who's Bobby?
• 1:28:16
  SPEAKER_02: Elite rap.
• 1:28:18
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so if you try to be Kendrick and you land somewhere in the middle.
• 1:28:21
  SPEAKER_02: Youngboy ain't never write Nas's worst verse.
• 1:28:23
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's true, but has he tried?
• 1:28:26
  SPEAKER_02: No, I I honestly what I've heard about Youngboy is he makes a lot of like soulful music.
• 1:28:31
  SPEAKER_02: He's a I feel like he's like the Tupac version of Rod Wave.
• 1:28:35
  SPEAKER_02: Perfect of Rod Wave.
• 1:28:37
  SPEAKER_02: Perfect.
• 1:28:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:28:38
  SPEAKER_02: They say he's the new Tupac.
• 1:28:39
  SPEAKER_02: Bitches is faint at his shows.
• 1:28:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:28:42
  SPEAKER_02: Bitches is faint because he's a gangster.
• 1:28:44
  SPEAKER_02: He is.
• 1:28:45
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's the the culture needs to change.
• 1:28:47
  SPEAKER_02: That's another one I ain't trying to touch.
• 1:28:48
  SPEAKER_02: He's like the King Vaughn type type of thing.
• 1:28:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:28:51
  SPEAKER_02: The culture definitely needs to change.
• 1:28:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um let's let's keep it hip hop though.
• 1:28:56
  SPEAKER_02: And this is actually a pretty sad.
• 1:29:00
  SPEAKER_02: I actually want to hear your thoughts on this.
• 1:29:01
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna give you guys all the context.
• 1:29:03
  SPEAKER_02: So African Babata is one of the pioneers of hip-hop.
• 1:29:10
  SPEAKER_02: He recently died.
• 1:29:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um he's old.
• 1:29:13
  SPEAKER_02: Round of applause.
• 1:29:14
  SPEAKER_02: This is my question.
• 1:29:15
  SPEAKER_02: This is my question.
• 1:29:16
  SPEAKER_02: So this gentleman is a pioneer of hip-hop.
• 1:29:19
  SPEAKER_02: Hip hop does not exist in the way that it does today without him.
• 1:29:22
  SPEAKER_02: Without him.
• 1:29:22
  SPEAKER_02: South Bronx.
• 1:29:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um he was the leader of a crew, I believe called the Zulu Nation.
• 1:29:28
  SPEAKER_02: Or he was part of the Zulu nation, the Zulu Nation.
• 1:29:31
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not too uh privy on the facts.
• 1:29:33
  SPEAKER_02: But the controversy with his death is he abused a lot of young men sexually.
• 1:29:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:29:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um there's a famous one.
• 1:29:44
  SPEAKER_02: His name is Um what's the brother's name?
• 1:29:48
  SPEAKER_02: Something Campbell.
• 1:29:48
  SPEAKER_02: Hassan Campbell Hassan Campbell, who has been vocal about vocal about the abuse at this dude's hand for years.
• 1:29:58
  SPEAKER_02: And he's actually become an internet joke, which actually goes to show you how we don't take men's abuse seriously at all.
• 1:30:05
  SPEAKER_02: You know how much courage it takes as a grown like he didn't say this as a kid.
• 1:30:10
  SPEAKER_02: It wasn't like something happened to him and he came out as a kid and he's been on live stream, he's 17 years old telling his story.
• 1:30:14
  SPEAKER_02: He said this as a grown man with kids of his own, I'm pretty sure.
• 1:30:17
  SPEAKER_02: We did the same thing to Razby.
• 1:30:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, yeah, the culture does not protect men in these scenarios.
• 1:30:25
  SPEAKER_02: And then people ask questions like, yo, how come if if everybody knew the African bombada was doing this, niggas let him walk up and down the street?
• 1:30:31
  SPEAKER_02: Well, you're part of the problem.
• 1:30:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:30:34
  SPEAKER_02: Because you were not, you probably made jokes too.
• 1:30:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:30:38
  SPEAKER_02: I mean you ask B who's the next Raz B.
• 1:30:41
  SPEAKER_02: That's fabulous.
• 1:30:42
  SPEAKER_02: Oh shit.
• 1:30:43
  SPEAKER_02: He's from New York.
• 1:30:44
  SPEAKER_02: Damn.
• 1:30:46
  SPEAKER_02: Nah, no fabulous slander, chill.
• 1:30:48
  SPEAKER_02: No, the fabulous one is the greatest ever.
• 1:30:49
  SPEAKER_02: From New York.
• 1:30:50
  SPEAKER_02: Um, Tyler the Creator.
• 1:30:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um no, Mr.
• 1:30:54
  SPEAKER_02: Stokes.
• 1:30:55
  SPEAKER_02: I don't like Mr.'s No, because Christopher Stokes is the guy that assaulted Raz B.
• 1:31:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:31:01
  SPEAKER_03: That's Tyler the Creator.
• 1:31:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:31:05
  SPEAKER_02: But let them drop a fucking Chris Brown Rihanna bar and not in Rihanna.
• 1:31:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, this is a problem.
• 1:31:12
  SPEAKER_02: So that's the first conversation, is he was so nasty with it.
• 1:31:17
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to get too graphic, but the when he used to assault the boys, he would do it in like the folds of their knee or something, like a place that you couldn't see the abuse.
• 1:31:28
  SPEAKER_02: Eventually he was full on doing penetration, but he a lot of the abuse he would do would be like in the fold of your knee.
• 1:31:34
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, that's crazy.
• 1:31:35
  SPEAKER_02: That was a he was a that was an advanced kink rate thing.
• 1:31:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so this nigga knew what he was doing.
• 1:31:40
  SPEAKER_02: He was a professional.
• 1:31:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's um.
• 1:31:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um we laughed.
• 1:31:43
  SPEAKER_02: We laughing because we have to laugh.
• 1:31:45
  SPEAKER_02: It's either we laugh or we cry.
• 1:31:46
  SPEAKER_02: I have a son.
• 1:31:47
  SPEAKER_02: I couldn't imagine the levels of violence that I would want to commit if something like that happened to him.
• 1:31:54
  SPEAKER_02: But another thing that Hassan Campbell said was Bombada was really good at targeting the boys that he knew came from nowhere.
• 1:32:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like he Hassan's story is like the first time he ever ran into him was uh he he already knew Bambada's crib is popping.
• 1:32:10
  SPEAKER_02: It's fun there.
• 1:32:11
  SPEAKER_02: So it's around the neighborhood kids.
• 1:32:12
  SPEAKER_02: Like he said he used to have to walk by the nigga crib whenever his mom used to send him to the store.
• 1:32:17
  SPEAKER_02: He's in the projects, and his mom is sending him to the store.
• 1:32:21
  SPEAKER_02: That's a young man.
• 1:32:23
  SPEAKER_02: There's something wrong with that already.
• 1:32:24
  SPEAKER_02: Some of y'all might look at that as pretty innocent, but we're talking about young men in the projects to the stores for his mom.
• 1:32:31
  SPEAKER_02: Like, why are they not going together?
• 1:32:32
  SPEAKER_02: And then where's the dad?
• 1:32:33
  SPEAKER_02: You know, that's my first question off-rip.
• 1:32:35
  SPEAKER_02: You might not know that, but that's like my first thing.
• 1:32:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:32:37
  SPEAKER_02: I always blame the fathers.
• 1:32:38
  SPEAKER_02: But there's no dad here.
• 1:32:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:32:40
  SPEAKER_02: So Bombada knew who to target.
• 1:32:42
  SPEAKER_02: Another uh anecdote that I saw online, uh, this is all alleged, is that another reason why people didn't do nothing to him is because shame.
• 1:32:50
  SPEAKER_02: Because you would have to admit that he did this to you.
• 1:32:52
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 1:32:53
  SPEAKER_02: And he also had people around him that would kill and die for him.
• 1:32:57
  SPEAKER_02: Some of them that he did molest and some of them that he didn't.
• 1:33:00
  SPEAKER_02: But he had like, you couldn't just walk up on Bombada.
• 1:33:03
  SPEAKER_02: This is a pioneer of hip hop.
• 1:33:04
  SPEAKER_02: He has a Zulu Nation crew.
• 1:33:06
  SPEAKER_02: Zulu Nation is based in what?
• 1:33:07
  SPEAKER_02: Like religion or it's like a philosophy.
• 1:33:09
  SPEAKER_02: I'm pretty.
• 1:33:10
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't do much research on it, honestly.
• 1:33:11
  SPEAKER_02: I've heard it like a many times.
• 1:33:13
  SPEAKER_02: I just think it's like a way of life.
• 1:33:14
  SPEAKER_02: It's like a group, like it's some old school New York shit.
• 1:33:17
  SPEAKER_02: Anybody that's from the 80s and the 90s, they could probably talk more on it than I did.
• 1:33:21
  SPEAKER_02: And I I could do some research and come back, but that's a good question.
• 1:33:23
  SPEAKER_02: But um, he just was untouchable.
• 1:33:25
  SPEAKER_02: And people, it's uh it was open secret that he did this.
• 1:33:27
  SPEAKER_02: And a lot of the young men, like Hassan Campbell, when you hear him speak, he's really he's ready to kill and die.
• 1:33:34
  SPEAKER_02: And can you imagine how many other uh young men that he Bombada had around him that's ready to kill and die because of what he did to them?
• 1:33:41
  SPEAKER_02: Because I I used to say this all the time, like a lot of street dudes are actually very emotional people.
• 1:33:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's how they they be and now I'm not saying obviously all the street dudes are about to get mad at me.
• 1:33:52
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying all of y'all were molested, that's not my point, but it's like I see the correlation.
• 1:33:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like I see the the I can see it in my head right now that the five kids y'all see hanging out outside in front of that liquor store.
• 1:34:01
  SPEAKER_02: The nigga that's the craziest is because he probably has something going on at home.
• 1:34:05
  SPEAKER_02: Y'all seen the movie Juice, right?
• 1:34:07
  SPEAKER_02: The Tupac character, there was something going on with him and his pops.
• 1:34:09
  SPEAKER_02: They never really fleshed it out, but his pops was was crazy, like in the movie.
• 1:34:13
  SPEAKER_02: Like he was talking to his dad, his dad was just sitting in front of the T.
• 1:34:16
  SPEAKER_02: So it's always something going on at home with with these uh overly emotional, ready to kill and die, their lives don't mean much, but this father figure.
• 1:34:24
  SPEAKER_02: So my question to y'all because Keris won, and I think Chuck D, who are old school hip-hop legends, said R.I.P.
• 1:34:35
  SPEAKER_04: then as a do we extend that about it?
• 1:34:44
  SPEAKER_04: Do you see our do you say R.I.P.
• 1:34:46
  SPEAKER_04: before Kelly does?
• 1:34:49
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:34:50
  SPEAKER_03: So then yeah.
• 1:34:52
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, like I I think I think they're they're separating the art.
• 1:34:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um because I I mean I would I would assume they're not with the the No, but I they're friend they were friends with him even after the abuse aggregate uh allegations came out.
• 1:35:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think I think especially back in the day, now people are friendships are more like based in moral and this and that.
• 1:35:15
  SPEAKER_03: Back then it was like more like based in like loyalty.
• 1:35:17
  SPEAKER_02: Like you're my friend, like you might kill people, you might do shit, but like Yeah, I agree with you.
• 1:35:22
  SPEAKER_02: You know, you're my friend, like I fucked you, like you know what I'm saying?
• 1:35:24
  SPEAKER_03: Like it's it's different.
• 1:35:25
  SPEAKER_02: So we give a back then they gave a lot more grace to their friends.
• 1:35:29
  SPEAKER_02: Um they should have probably been a little more long-winded and like RIP um and maybe some respect to like the victims or something, or yeah.
• 1:35:38
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's only one real victim that has came out, but there's been murmurs and rumors before I even knew Hassan Campbell, I've heard like about this forever.
• 1:35:47
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm just some And he wasn't convicted of this?
• 1:35:49
  SPEAKER_02: I don't I'm I'm 99% sure he was not.
• 1:35:51
  SPEAKER_02: I don't even think he was ever charged.
• 1:35:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so then I might then I might not bring up the victims because I don't I don't know.
• 1:35:57
  SPEAKER_02: And this is your friend, this is your friend, right?
• 1:35:59
  SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
• 1:36:00
  SPEAKER_02: So like I'm gonna I'ma bring up victim alleged victims.
• 1:36:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because like not to bring him up, but Michael Jackson had to go to court for all of this, and there's some people out there that are like, nah, Michael Jackson never touched any of these little boys, and he went to court, right?
• 1:36:13
  SPEAKER_02: And there's some people that are like, oh no, Michael Jackson definitely touched little boys, so it's like OJ, you know?
• 1:36:18
  SPEAKER_02: Nah, OJ hurt you.
• 1:36:21
  SPEAKER_02: But shout out OJ though.
• 1:36:23
  SPEAKER_02: I black him, OJ.
• 1:36:24
  SPEAKER_02: That's the part of OJ I don't fuck with.
• 1:36:26
  SPEAKER_02: But what he stood for beating that case, shout out OJ though.
• 1:36:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but we needed one.
• 1:36:31
  SPEAKER_02: He definitely killed that white woman though.
• 1:36:33
  SPEAKER_02: I think he I think I think that was not vengeance directly, but like Emma Till, you know.
• 1:36:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, fucking Ronnie King happened at him pretty soon around the same time.
• 1:36:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, shout out shout out OJ, but also fuck OJ for that.
• 1:36:43
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not like that.
• 1:36:44
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's a direct quote.
• 1:36:46
  SPEAKER_02: Did he he did die?
• 1:36:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:36:47
  SPEAKER_02: OJ's dead?
• 1:36:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, R.
• 1:36:48
  SPEAKER_02: P.
• 1:36:48
  SPEAKER_02: O.
• 1:36:49
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah.
• 1:36:51
  SPEAKER_02: I shouldn't have said that.
• 1:36:51
  SPEAKER_02: But R R P OJ.
• 1:36:53
  SPEAKER_02: But uh yeah, back to Bombada.
• 1:36:55
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it's tough, man, because now you look at uh Chuck D and KRS1, like you look at them sideways, and these are also legends in hip-hop.
• 1:37:02
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like, I don't know, man.
• 1:37:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they also probably disconnected maybe to like you know, I think Charlie Yeah, I think Charlie hit it on the nose.
• 1:37:12
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's just old school niggas, they riding with their homies regardless.
• 1:37:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:37:17
  SPEAKER_02: Biggie got that line about his man Gutta.
• 1:37:20
  SPEAKER_02: Gonna kidnap kids, throw them over the bridge.
• 1:37:23
  SPEAKER_02: What do you think is worse?
• 1:37:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:37:25
  SPEAKER_03: Mole uh molesting was he a was he underage, Hassan, at the time?
• 1:37:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:37:30
  SPEAKER_03: He's a boy.
• 1:37:31
  SPEAKER_03: Do you think that's worse than uh killing the head of a household or ruining a family?
• 1:37:39
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:37:41
  SPEAKER_03: So you think there's more trauma in molesting this one boy than there is in ruining than killing a father who's a father to five, four, three, six kids.
• 1:37:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:37:53
  SPEAKER_02: Because you remove the innocence from that young man.
• 1:37:56
  SPEAKER_02: And then he he and I say Hassan, though, I mean you could remove it when you murder someone's dad.
• 1:38:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but that the innocence we're talking about, because that's a tough question, actually.
• 1:38:06
  SPEAKER_02: Nah, it's easy for me though, because what it's gonna do is your dad getting murdered, you can explain that.
• 1:38:17
  SPEAKER_02: As a kid, you can rationalize that.
• 1:38:18
  SPEAKER_02: Like, damn, like somebody took my dad from me.
• 1:38:22
  SPEAKER_02: Well, as a kid, you cannot rationalize that.
• 1:38:23
  SPEAKER_02: No, you definitely can.
• 1:38:24
  SPEAKER_02: If something bad happened.
• 1:38:26
  SPEAKER_02: Some like it's it to me, like I'm looking at it from a from like if I'm the mom.
• 1:38:29
  SPEAKER_02: That's how the kid will rationalize the abuse, then.
• 1:38:31
  SPEAKER_02: No, but that how do you rationalize that?
• 1:38:34
  SPEAKER_02: I know he they know it's wrong, something bad happened.
• 1:38:36
  SPEAKER_02: No, but you see, kids don't know that.
• 1:38:38
  SPEAKER_02: Kids know that because that's why they don't tell their parents.
• 1:38:40
  SPEAKER_02: No, but he told no, they don't tell their parents because that they probably told that story because the dude, remember, this story started off with him saying, it's popping there.
• 1:38:47
  SPEAKER_02: It's not like the kids was warning each other, like, yo, don't talk to this nigga.
• 1:38:51
  SPEAKER_02: It's fun there.
• 1:38:53
  SPEAKER_02: The whole thing warps you.
• 1:38:54
  SPEAKER_02: I just think that from uh if I was the mom, I I think I can explain to my child why your dad died, then why this man took advantage of you that way sexually.
• 1:39:06
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's much easier to deal with that.
• 1:39:08
  SPEAKER_02: They're both wrong and hard to do.
• 1:39:10
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying one is easier, like they're both one is easy.
• 1:39:13
  SPEAKER_02: I think they're both terrible and they're both tough.
• 1:39:15
  SPEAKER_02: But if I had to choose one that I had to like coach my child through as the mom, or like if I was an uncle to the kid that, like, then God forbid, like my my brother's kid, my brother got killed, and I gotta explain to his kid what happened.
• 1:39:26
  SPEAKER_02: I would rather do that than to explain to him what that man just did to you.
• 1:39:31
  SPEAKER_02: And then on top of that, like, not to say that this is Hassan Campbell, but a lot of people when they get touched that way, they start touching people that way.
• 1:39:38
  SPEAKER_02: Because I saw a lot of that with the Bombada stuff.
• 1:39:40
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, how y'all how did he learn these things?
• 1:39:43
  SPEAKER_02: Y'all don't think somebody did that to him?
• 1:39:44
  SPEAKER_02: That doesn't excuse his action.
• 1:39:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:39:46
  SPEAKER_02: But some of that stuff was pretty graphic.
• 1:39:49
  SPEAKER_02: It sounded like learn behavior that that might have happened to him.
• 1:39:52
  SPEAKER_02: So um the question, nah, I you're right, and I agree with you.
• 1:39:56
  SPEAKER_02: The question comes from people RRPing murderers, murderers, yeah.
• 1:40:00
  SPEAKER_02: No, I I know exactly where you're coming from.
• 1:40:02
  SPEAKER_02: And then we mad at him RMPing this guy at this point.
• 1:40:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, this this guy has ruined multiple things.
• 1:40:08
  SPEAKER_02: Just like free him.
• 1:40:09
  SPEAKER_02: Like we niggas is saying free him, like he didn't kill three, he didn't kill three people in your in your neighborhood.
• 1:40:13
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 1:40:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:40:14
  SPEAKER_02: Like he didn't, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:40:15
  SPEAKER_02: Like free him for what?
• 1:40:16
  SPEAKER_02: For him to come terrorizing some more, but that's my man though.
• 1:40:19
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 1:40:19
  SPEAKER_02: He's terrorizing y'all, not terrorizing him.
• 1:40:21
  SPEAKER_02: Right, right, right.
• 1:40:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so it's it's it's tough, man.
• 1:40:24
  SPEAKER_00: We're all biased, you know.
• 1:40:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:40:25
  SPEAKER_02: We're all hypocrites.
• 1:40:27
  SPEAKER_02: I don't feel comfortable saying R.I.P.
• 1:40:28
  SPEAKER_02: to Bombada, even though he's definitely hip-hop.
• 1:40:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and you know, I love hip-hop, but I it's just I think when you do those things to children, there's a special place for you.
• 1:40:40
  SPEAKER_02: And I I just can't, I can't even come close to condoning that.
• 1:40:43
  SPEAKER_02: How what was what's the age difference between Bombada and Hassan?
• 1:40:47
  SPEAKER_02: Like how like maybe 30 years or thing?
• 1:40:49
  SPEAKER_02: I really don't know.
• 1:40:50
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
• 1:40:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yeah, it was that ain't no 22 to 17.
• 1:40:53
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
• 1:40:54
  SPEAKER_02: He he the way if you ever get uh Hassan Campbell, like just find one of his videos, the way he describes it, he gets graphics.
• 1:41:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you can see that he was still a like I think he's still a kid.
• 1:41:05
  SPEAKER_02: Like even today, he's still a kid.
• 1:41:07
  SPEAKER_02: Like he's stuck in like he'd be saying crazy shit.
• 1:41:09
  SPEAKER_02: Like, yo, nigga, like he has like a funny clip about how he's I don't even remember who he's talking about in the clip.
• 1:41:14
  SPEAKER_02: But he's like, nah, like we can meet in front of a police station and we can both throw our lives away.
• 1:41:18
  SPEAKER_02: We can both die today.
• 1:41:18
  SPEAKER_02: He's dead serious.
• 1:41:19
  SPEAKER_02: That was on the podcast, I think, way back.
• 1:41:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he was dead serious, though.
• 1:41:22
  SPEAKER_02: He's like, whoever he was talking to, he's like, nah, me and you can go to the pre- we can do it in front of a precinct, I'll bring my gun, you bring your gun, and we'll shoot it out, and we both die.
• 1:41:29
  SPEAKER_02: Fuck it.
• 1:41:29
  SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
• 1:41:30
  SPEAKER_02: And that's trauma because he's still probably 13 years old, 12 years old.
• 1:41:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:41:35
  SPEAKER_02: Because that sounds cool to a 12-year-old, you know.
• 1:41:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:41:37
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm I'm pretty sure he has kids.
• 1:41:38
  SPEAKER_02: I think he has kids.
• 1:41:40
  SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, man, it's a very uncomfortable thing, man.
• 1:41:44
  SPEAKER_02: But um, unfortunately, there's some monsters in this world, and monsters create more monsters.
• 1:41:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:41:48
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know.
• 1:41:49
  SPEAKER_02: That's true.
• 1:41:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:41:51
  SPEAKER_02: But um, I think this is uh a funnier version of the same story.
• 1:41:56
  SPEAKER_02: But are you guys familiar with the streamer or YouTuber Vitali?
• 1:42:02
  SPEAKER_02: So the first time I seen that nigga, um, he was like a YouTuber and they he did uh the the bang bus and he couldn't get hard.
• 1:42:11
  SPEAKER_02: Like he has a video out there.
• 1:42:12
  SPEAKER_02: Do I remember that?
• 1:42:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, he you know that's crazy.
• 1:42:15
  SPEAKER_02: Remember the bang bus?
• 1:42:16
  SPEAKER_02: The portion of he got invited on the bang bus.
• 1:42:19
  SPEAKER_02: And he allowed it to get like yeah, they filmed the whole thing.
• 1:42:22
  SPEAKER_02: He couldn't get it up.
• 1:42:24
  SPEAKER_02: They got stage fright content.
• 1:42:25
  SPEAKER_02: Look, we talk about it.
• 1:42:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we wouldn't be talking about it if he got it up.
• 1:42:28
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 1:42:29
  SPEAKER_02: Stage fright.
• 1:42:29
  SPEAKER_02: But um, yeah, so he so he was in the news like a couple of months ago because he got locked up in um in the Philippines.
• 1:42:36
  SPEAKER_02: Some some well, somewhere out there.
• 1:42:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so he got locked up in the Philippines.
• 1:42:39
  SPEAKER_02: He finally got freed, he came back.
• 1:42:40
  SPEAKER_02: He's not even he's not American, I think he's Russian or something.
• 1:42:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so he's in the news now because he does this thing, which a lot of streamers, a lot of YouTubers do it, where I think legally it's entrapment.
• 1:42:53
  SPEAKER_02: So what they do is they get a it's like uh Chris Hansen, uh to catch a predator.
• 1:42:57
  SPEAKER_02: He they get they got a girl that's uh to go on um any of these dating apps, and then they they talk sexy with the guy, and then eventually they let the guy know, well, I'm 16, I'm 15, I'm 13, and then the guy is like okay.
• 1:43:12
  SPEAKER_02: And then when they go to meet up, he's there with his crew, and then they they put them on YouTube, they sometimes they call it a cops, they do like they make them do mad humiliating stuff.
• 1:43:21
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's the content, it sucks, it's cringy.
• 1:43:24
  SPEAKER_02: Is that even legal to do?
• 1:43:25
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think it's legal, I think it's entrapment, but they they're pedos.
• 1:43:29
  SPEAKER_02: So fuck they deserve everything, they deserve it.
• 1:43:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's doing a good service, yeah.
• 1:43:33
  SPEAKER_02: They deserve it, but this is my problem with this.
• 1:43:37
  SPEAKER_02: You're doing this not for the sake of the children, you're doing this to pay your bills, you're doing this for content, you're not actually trying to.
• 1:43:47
  SPEAKER_02: It's not like you damn nah, the cops aren't doing enough.
• 1:43:50
  SPEAKER_02: Let me go be vigilante.
• 1:43:52
  SPEAKER_02: Because if they was, and this is gonna sound really morbid and messed up, and I'm not telling anybody to do this, but if they was really about it, they wouldn't film any of this.
• 1:43:59
  SPEAKER_02: They'll just kill those niggas.
• 1:44:00
  SPEAKER_02: This is how I feel about the 50 Cent Docs.
• 1:44:02
  SPEAKER_02: That he should kill Diddy?
• 1:44:04
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 1:44:05
  SPEAKER_02: You're not doing it for the victims and that shit is nasty.
• 1:44:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you get it.
• 1:44:10
  SPEAKER_02: If niggas is really about it, what they would do is they would just kill them niggas.
• 1:44:13
  SPEAKER_02: They'll they'll do the same plan, and when them niggas show up, they'll knock them off.
• 1:44:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but no, they're recording it, they're making content, but this time just desserts happen.
• 1:44:23
  SPEAKER_02: So this time it's a young man, he pulls up, yeah.
• 1:44:28
  SPEAKER_02: They they start and they make it mad racial too, because he was Indian.
• 1:44:31
  SPEAKER_02: They was cutting his ass, they were making Indian jokes, and then he called the cops, the guy.
• 1:44:36
  SPEAKER_02: He was like, No, no, no.
• 1:44:37
  SPEAKER_02: He's like, yo, look, he's like trying to explain to the other, nah, you got the wrong guy.
• 1:44:40
  SPEAKER_02: Like, look, this is my Snapchat.
• 1:44:41
  SPEAKER_02: And the girl who has the phone, she's like, nah.
• 1:44:44
  SPEAKER_02: And then they start making Indian jokes.
• 1:44:45
  SPEAKER_02: Nah, bro, you're Indian.
• 1:44:46
  SPEAKER_02: You just you just probably made a new Snapchat.
• 1:44:47
  SPEAKER_02: Like, we know how Indians are good at technology, and the guy's like, nah, bro.
• 1:44:51
  SPEAKER_02: Like, he's pleading with them.
• 1:44:51
  SPEAKER_02: He's like, nah, bro, look, like he's like, I'm gonna be honest with you.
• 1:44:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um, this I this because the chat room, I guess, was a seat.
• 1:44:58
  SPEAKER_02: This is a new kink.
• 1:44:58
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not we're not kink shaming.
• 1:45:00
  SPEAKER_02: So it's it's consensual non-consent.
• 1:45:03
  SPEAKER_02: So it's a rape thing.
• 1:45:04
  SPEAKER_02: Grape thing, sorry.
• 1:45:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there's rape, yeah, rape kink.
• 1:45:06
  SPEAKER_02: It's a great grape, we're gonna grape because I don't want to edit.
• 1:45:09
  SPEAKER_02: So there's a grape kink.
• 1:45:11
  SPEAKER_02: So it's a it's a whole forum of people that want to do like, hey, like let's do grape play.
• 1:45:18
  SPEAKER_02: So we're all consenting that this is a game.
• 1:45:22
  SPEAKER_02: It's like it's like niggas that like like like furries that like to dress up in suits and fuck each other.
• 1:45:26
  SPEAKER_02: We're all agreeing that this is just a game that we're playing, that it's a kink that I want you to pretend like you're graping me.
• 1:45:31
  SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
• 1:45:32
  SPEAKER_02: That's what he's just trying to show them.
• 1:45:33
  SPEAKER_02: Like, hey, this is what we do.
• 1:45:34
  SPEAKER_02: But the girl I'm speaking to is 18.
• 1:45:36
  SPEAKER_02: Like, look, he's showing them the girl that's there who's supposed to be the honeypot.
• 1:45:40
  SPEAKER_02: She's like, no, no, no, no, no, look, look, look.
• 1:45:42
  SPEAKER_02: And then he's like, no, that's not me.
• 1:45:43
  SPEAKER_02: And she's like, nah, nah, I said I'm 16.
• 1:45:45
  SPEAKER_02: He's like, bro, dog, that's not me.
• 1:45:47
  SPEAKER_02: And they still going in on him.
• 1:45:48
  SPEAKER_02: And the video ends basically when the cops show up, and then the guy, like, Vitaly had to make like a whole, like, oh damn, uh, we messed up.
• 1:45:57
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna stop doing this content for a while.
• 1:45:58
  SPEAKER_02: I think I'm gonna take a break.
• 1:45:59
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna just go do regular content.
• 1:46:01
  SPEAKER_02: He sent out like a long ass like text apologizing, you know.
• 1:46:04
  SPEAKER_02: And but this dude's life is like some people are not gonna go see the content.
• 1:46:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:46:10
  SPEAKER_02: It's not gonna so the dude is suing now, Vitali.
• 1:46:14
  SPEAKER_02: I would too.
• 1:46:15
  SPEAKER_02: What I think I you know, I think Vitali's small fries.
• 1:46:19
  SPEAKER_02: I think he should sue Kick, the streaming service.
• 1:46:23
  SPEAKER_02: I'm suing the streaming service.
• 1:46:24
  SPEAKER_02: Because why are you allowing these niggas to be right right?
• 1:46:27
  SPEAKER_02: That's who I'm suing.
• 1:46:28
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:46:29
  SPEAKER_02: So for the bigger fish, yeah, because fuck Vitali.
• 1:46:32
  SPEAKER_02: Or do both.
• 1:46:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, you can just do both, honestly.
• 1:46:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but both.
• 1:46:35
  SPEAKER_02: He he's he's gonna win.
• 1:46:36
  SPEAKER_02: He's gonna, he's gonna, and I hope this type of content is kicked off of social media because you know what this does?
• 1:46:42
  SPEAKER_02: If y'all niggas is really about it, go do it for free.
• 1:46:45
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 1:46:45
  SPEAKER_02: Because these niggas still need to go to jail.
• 1:46:47
  SPEAKER_02: These these pedals need to go to jail, they need to be taken care of.
• 1:46:50
  SPEAKER_02: I think there, I don't know.
• 1:46:52
  SPEAKER_02: I never thought of it this way, but I think there may be uh a defense here.
• 1:46:56
  SPEAKER_03: Like, if you if you have to click yes, I'm 18 to make these profiles, I could just I could just be like, yo, that whole I'm 15 thing is a young kink.
• 1:47:07
  SPEAKER_03: I have a kink.
• 1:47:08
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, no.
• 1:47:09
  SPEAKER_02: It don't work because for example, if I'm in a club, I'm assuming that's why it don't work.
• 1:47:16
  SPEAKER_02: The club examples I was gonna use.
• 1:47:18
  SPEAKER_02: But you can use a fake ID to get in the city.
• 1:47:20
  SPEAKER_02: Nah, but that that don't stand up in court, though.
• 1:47:22
  SPEAKER_02: She had a fake ID.
• 1:47:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it doesn't work.
• 1:47:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that don't stand up in court.
• 1:47:25
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry.
• 1:47:25
  SPEAKER_00: Unfortunately.
• 1:47:26
  SPEAKER_00: It don't.
• 1:47:26
  SPEAKER_00: Well, for well.
• 1:47:28
  SPEAKER_00: Well, no, no, unfortunately, as far as like, because it's like bitches lie, you know.
• 1:47:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, no, of course.
• 1:47:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that don't stand up in the city.
• 1:47:35
  SPEAKER_02: As long as you can prove, because uh because you know it's so funny.
• 1:47:38
  SPEAKER_02: I used to throw parties, right?
• 1:47:40
  SPEAKER_02: Do I want to tell this story?
• 1:47:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I used to throw parties, right?
• 1:47:43
  SPEAKER_02: Let's go, we got them.
• 1:47:44
  SPEAKER_02: And um, there was this is when Davies was um was like Oh, you got a Davies story too?
• 1:47:49
  SPEAKER_02: This is who somebody else had a Davies story?
• 1:47:52
  SPEAKER_02: This is when um Davies was like just like getting poppin' poppin'.
• 1:47:56
  SPEAKER_02: And there was this girl that came to one of our parties, and we wasn't really checking IDs at our parties.
• 1:48:09
  SPEAKER_02: So she came to our parties, niggas understood that, oh yeah, this girl's under age, she probably shouldn't be here.
• 1:48:13
  SPEAKER_02: Is this like a house or club?
• 1:48:14
  SPEAKER_02: We was like renting out spots, we was doing it in backyards, it wasn't nothing official.
• 1:48:18
  SPEAKER_02: We was just trying to get her name out there, but we know that that girl is underage, and then like three days later, she on the shade room with Davies.
• 1:48:29
  SPEAKER_02: But the crazy part is she was built like a grown woman, though.
• 1:48:33
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't think he's a pedo.
• 1:48:37
  SPEAKER_02: I think she should have just not been in those.
• 1:48:39
  SPEAKER_02: Why is she in the same space as Davies?
• 1:48:41
  SPEAKER_02: That's not Davies' fault.
• 1:48:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but that's Shorty's fault.
• 1:48:44
  SPEAKER_02: So that don't hold up in court.
• 1:48:46
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, yeah.
• 1:48:47
  SPEAKER_02: Nah, he didn't do nothing with her.
• 1:48:48
  SPEAKER_00: I was just okay, okay, okay.
• 1:48:50
  SPEAKER_02: It was just like some risque text messages or some weird shit like that.
• 1:48:52
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:48:53
  SPEAKER_02: She's the one that tried to expose him on some like, oh yeah, look, uh, I'm I'm 16, I'm 17, Dave E's in my DMs or some weird shit like that.
• 1:48:59
  SPEAKER_02: But nah, like there's women that do that.
• 1:49:01
  SPEAKER_02: You see, and girls don't get that heat.
• 1:49:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no.
• 1:49:04
  SPEAKER_02: Or at least not enough heat.
• 1:49:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but the thing is, the pro the the way vitality and these guys catches these dudes is the girls tell them, hey, I'm underage, and them niggas is still like, oh, it's go time.
• 1:49:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:49:17
  SPEAKER_02: That's the problem.
• 1:49:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's the problem.
• 1:49:19
  SPEAKER_02: That's the problem.
• 1:49:20
  SPEAKER_02: So he's not the only one that does it.
• 1:49:22
  SPEAKER_02: I just hope this stops all these niggas from doing it.
• 1:49:24
  SPEAKER_02: I hope all these streaming platforms basically tell them all, yo, we can't, we don't got the insurance for this.
• 1:49:28
  SPEAKER_02: Y'all need to stop doing this.
• 1:49:29
  SPEAKER_02: I don't care how much content you get.
• 1:49:31
  SPEAKER_02: And if y'all niggas is really about it, go do it for free.
• 1:49:34
  SPEAKER_02: Go clean up your neighborhood.
• 1:49:36
  SPEAKER_02: I I respect that.
• 1:49:37
  SPEAKER_02: Because again, those people should be dealt with.
• 1:49:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:49:40
  SPEAKER_02: But don't do it for the bread, bro.
• 1:49:42
  SPEAKER_02: That's whack.
• 1:49:42
  SPEAKER_03: And why I don't understand, like, why you still respect like my dad always told me, no, I mean, my dad has told me if you're gonna do something wrong, do it the right way.
• 1:49:54
  SPEAKER_03: Like, for example, like in the Batman in Dark Knight, when the joke.
• 1:50:00
  SPEAKER_03: When they rob the bank, they know the beginning scene with the school bus and this and that.
• 1:50:03
  SPEAKER_03: He kills everybody.
• 1:50:04
  SPEAKER_03: But that is like that's what you're supposed to do.
• 1:50:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:50:06
  SPEAKER_03: Kill everybody.
• 1:50:07
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:50:08
  SPEAKER_03: That's how you do the wrong thing the right way.
• 1:50:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:50:11
  SPEAKER_02: It's terrible, but you're already in the wrong.
• 1:50:12
  SPEAKER_02: So we're going all in.
• 1:50:14
  SPEAKER_02: So how would you hypothetically like what would I just say as soon as they say their age, like I'm not typing them.
• 1:50:18
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, exactly.
• 1:50:19
  SPEAKER_02: Conversation is over.
• 1:50:20
  SPEAKER_02: No, but the thing is, these niggas is into your little girl.
• 1:50:22
  SPEAKER_02: No, I'm saying, but if you still want to get it off, you have to find a you have to circumvent the paper trail.
• 1:50:28
  SPEAKER_02: Are you like educating these men?
• 1:50:30
  SPEAKER_02: No, I'm just saying I don't understand why they still like after I'm 15, they're like, oh, okay, that's fine with me.
• 1:50:36
  SPEAKER_02: Let's because not like the Chuck E.
• 1:50:38
  SPEAKER_02: Cheese.
• 1:50:38
  SPEAKER_02: Not to be funny, but the niggas probably it's probably worked 10 times already.
• 1:50:44
  SPEAKER_02: That's true.
• 1:50:44
  SPEAKER_02: So this 10th time, this 11th time is when it got popped.
• 1:50:48
  SPEAKER_02: So and like E Moneybagg said in the last episode, and this and that, like a lot of these girls are shooting at the older guy with no intention of trapping them or getting them in trouble.
• 1:50:56
  SPEAKER_02: So I guess you're right, like it's happening.
• 1:50:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're getting it off, yeah.
• 1:50:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:51:00
  SPEAKER_02: But any nigga that's attracted to uh a woman that that's pre-provenescent, I'm probably butchering that word, is that nigga needs to be dealt with.
• 1:51:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:51:08
  SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't think those people should be walking amongst us.
• 1:51:12
  SPEAKER_02: Same thing with Bombada, no disrespect.
• 1:51:13
  SPEAKER_02: So do you so you definitely are against of like like African culture with like how they like could marry at 14 and when do they consummate the marriage?
• 1:51:22
  SPEAKER_02: What do you mean?
• 1:51:24
  SPEAKER_02: Like the law?
• 1:51:25
  SPEAKER_03: No, like when do they have sex with the women?
• 1:51:29
  SPEAKER_03: Well I I've been to Africa in certain places and like certain tribes and villages, they believe that as soon as she has her period, she's better to be.
• 1:51:36
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so my thing is well, she wouldn't be pre like progressive.
• 1:51:42
  SPEAKER_02: She wouldn't be a child at that point, but she's under 18.
• 1:51:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so this is why that arbitrary number is stupid.
• 1:51:50
  SPEAKER_02: I think it should be, and maybe this is me being wrong, I think it should be development.
• 1:51:56
  SPEAKER_02: I think it like uh off how they look.
• 1:51:59
  SPEAKER_02: Like, not not a biology thing.
• 1:52:01
  SPEAKER_02: Forget how they look.
• 1:52:02
  SPEAKER_02: If their biology is like this is a woman, I don't know what that is, because I'm not a biologist, I don't know what it is.
• 1:52:08
  SPEAKER_02: Y'all can raise the age, y'all can make it 25 for whatever makes sense biology biological.
• 1:52:12
  SPEAKER_02: Well, to me, that's how it should be.
• 1:52:14
  SPEAKER_02: I understand what you mean.
• 1:52:14
  SPEAKER_02: Because there's nothing magical that happens when you turn 18, as as a man or a woman.
• 1:52:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I see your point.
• 1:52:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like what happens?
• 1:52:21
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what like make it where it's like the biology matches?
• 1:52:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like what happened?
• 1:52:25
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if every maybe it's in the future, every woman gets a prick, and then if that if that if that shit says yeah, she's good to go.
• 1:52:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, a little stamp in the foot.
• 1:52:33
  SPEAKER_02: This girl took her until she was 30.
• 1:52:35
  SPEAKER_02: This girl, it happened when she was 21.
• 1:52:37
  SPEAKER_02: This girl happened when she was 17.
• 1:52:39
  SPEAKER_02: I just don't like the idea of a number.
• 1:52:42
  SPEAKER_02: This magic is not nothing happens at 18 to anybody.
• 1:52:46
  SPEAKER_02: But again, my problem is the niggas that is attracted to women that they could be of age, but they if they look like they're nine or twelve, yeah, something's wrong with you.
• 1:52:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's a problem.
• 1:52:57
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you need to get up out of here.
• 1:52:58
  SPEAKER_02: Like, we there's no space for you in the world, and the same thing for women, because we're not even talking about all these teachers that keep fucking these kids.
• 1:53:04
  SPEAKER_02: And then when I look at the stories, they're not even fucking the 17-year-old kids, they're fucking the 12-year-olds and the 13-year-olds.
• 1:53:10
  SPEAKER_02: Like, so so the guy who likes the adult who looks like a kid, get him out of here, too.
• 1:53:17
  SPEAKER_02: I think he sus.
• 1:53:18
  SPEAKER_02: He's on the list, he has to be on the list.
• 1:53:20
  SPEAKER_02: I would put him on a list at least.
• 1:53:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because he's just gaming the system.
• 1:53:23
  SPEAKER_02: He's a magical number.
• 1:53:25
  SPEAKER_02: Because once he has that number, now is now it could be a kink.
• 1:53:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like we don't kink shame, but still, that nigga need to be on the list.
• 1:53:31
  SPEAKER_02: That's how that's how I feel about it.
• 1:53:32
  SPEAKER_02: I feel you.
• 1:53:33
  SPEAKER_02: Because if you see some girl walking down the street and she's built like a fucking damn, and then you figure out that she's 16, you're like, some people I don't think that dude's weird.
• 1:53:43
  SPEAKER_02: He just is attracted to women.
• 1:53:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:53:45
  SPEAKER_02: She just happens to have developed early.
• 1:53:46
  SPEAKER_02: But now the nigga that's like, oh yeah, now that I know she's 16, I want her even more, he gotta go too.
• 1:53:52
  SPEAKER_02: But people attribute skinniness and slimness to to kids.
• 1:53:58
  SPEAKER_02: So a lot of girls don't develop big boobs or big ass or this and that.
• 1:54:02
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like now this is why I'm talking about the biologics.
• 1:54:06
  SPEAKER_02: Like, big ass and big tits are attractive to most men because that's fertility.
• 1:54:13
  SPEAKER_02: Like a wide wide hips mean you can have kids.
• 1:54:16
  SPEAKER_02: Narrow hips means you're not ready yet.
• 1:54:19
  SPEAKER_02: The cake is still baking.
• 1:54:20
  SPEAKER_02: You gotta-gang ain't looking at it like that.
• 1:54:21
  SPEAKER_02: No, I know, but that's why I'm talking about it from a biological standpoint.
• 1:54:24
  SPEAKER_02: Some niggas is into slim girls, and that's cool.
• 1:54:25
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm not disrespecting those people.
• 1:54:27
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm a guy who I like more fuller women, so it's a little different.
• 1:54:30
  SPEAKER_02: But I'm just talking about from biology: narrow hips, hard to have kids.
• 1:54:35
  SPEAKER_02: Big hips, easy to have kids.
• 1:54:37
  SPEAKER_02: Biology.
• 1:54:38
  SPEAKER_02: That's that that's not a number.
• 1:54:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:54:41
  SPEAKER_02: So if she looks like she can have kids, no, no, no.
• 1:54:44
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying that either.
• 1:54:45
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to be confused.
• 1:54:46
  SPEAKER_02: I said, in a perfect world, if we had some kind of technology that did that, because you asked about the African tribe.
• 1:54:52
  SPEAKER_02: I can't tell the African tribe that they're wrong if this has been working for them for uh hundreds of years.
• 1:54:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:54:58
  SPEAKER_02: Because if a girl has her period, that usually means that she's fertile.
• 1:55:02
  SPEAKER_02: And I can't tell the nigga he's wrong for that.
• 1:55:04
  SPEAKER_02: I I'm not, I can't tell a nigga that he's wrong if the king of this tribe is like, hey, when you have your first daughter, she should marry my first son.
• 1:55:11
  SPEAKER_02: My son is 14, your daughter's not here yet.
• 1:55:14
  SPEAKER_02: And then your daughter comes, hey, they're married, but they can't do nothing until she's of age.
• 1:55:19
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 1:55:19
  SPEAKER_02: I can't tell them that they're wrong for that.
• 1:55:21
  SPEAKER_02: That's very shirting.
• 1:55:22
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's official.
• 1:55:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like that.
• 1:55:24
  SPEAKER_02: This is but these are customs that have been happening for millions of years, bro.
• 1:55:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:55:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's just society, you know.
• 1:55:30
  SPEAKER_00: We we move from that, but that we actually come from that.
• 1:55:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:55:32
  SPEAKER_00: But then we also come from slavery.
• 1:55:34
  SPEAKER_02: So not all things are are grimmark.
• 1:55:37
  SPEAKER_02: Of course, of course.
• 1:55:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but of course, yeah, no, that's that's how I look at it.
• 1:55:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's definitely how I look at it.
• 1:55:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, before we get up out of here, man, talk about slavery.
• 1:55:49
  SPEAKER_02: Oh no, we have we have one more topic before we get to that topic.
• 1:55:52
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, let's let's let's do uh the Chris Brown.
• 1:55:54
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay, because I have a hot take about this because uh Chris Brown, so RB.
• 1:56:01
  SPEAKER_02: RB.
• 1:56:02
  SPEAKER_02: Chris Brown and Usher have announced the well, first of all, Chris Brown announced his albums come in May, I think, 17th or something.
• 1:56:09
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, let's get it Breezy.
• 1:56:10
  SPEAKER_02: Let's get a lot of report for Breezy.
• 1:56:11
  SPEAKER_02: Breezy fan's about to be mad at me.
• 1:56:13
  SPEAKER_02: Uh by the way, super big Breezy fan over here.
• 1:56:15
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, word?
• 1:56:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we got a I'm a I'm a big Breezy fan too.
• 1:56:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:56:19
  SPEAKER_02: What's the new album called?
• 1:56:20
  SPEAKER_02: Brown versus something, right?
• 1:56:21
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's just brown.
• 1:56:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think it's just brown.
• 1:56:23
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so and the tour is called Raymond and Brown.
• 1:56:27
  SPEAKER_02: So we're already starting with colorism.
• 1:56:29
  SPEAKER_02: But all right, so Brown, now I'm playing.
• 1:56:30
  SPEAKER_02: Raymond and Brown, which is Raymond and Brown, which is RB.
• 1:56:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:56:34
  SPEAKER_02: Charlie, Charlie didn't get that.
• 1:56:35
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't I didn't get it.
• 1:56:37
  SPEAKER_02: He got his muffin crap.
• 1:56:38
  SPEAKER_02: I was just like, okay, they're going like professional, like grown ass like Raymond and RB.
• 1:56:43
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 1:56:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:56:45
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's a slick way.
• 1:56:46
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's also my fault, my fault, go ahead.
• 1:56:48
  SPEAKER_03: I think that's also a slick way where like, cause whose name goes first?
• 1:56:55
  SPEAKER_03: So it's a slick way where Chris Brown doesn't look like, oh, you let him sun you.
• 1:56:59
  SPEAKER_02: Like, uh, to clean that up.
• 1:57:01
  SPEAKER_02: I got a super hot take that's still in the same, still in the same vein.
• 1:57:04
  SPEAKER_02: I'm glad I have a Chris Brown fan in the room.
• 1:57:06
  SPEAKER_02: So when a topic of verses came up, Chris Brown was like, nobody can fuck with me.
• 1:57:11
  SPEAKER_02: I'm the best ever.
• 1:57:12
  SPEAKER_02: The only person that has a chance is Usher.
• 1:57:15
  SPEAKER_02: He did say that.
• 1:57:16
  SPEAKER_02: I was on Chris Brown's side of that.
• 1:57:18
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, he gets Usher up out of here.
• 1:57:23
  SPEAKER_02: Then I then I did a Usher recap.
• 1:57:25
  SPEAKER_02: Did you?
• 1:57:26
  SPEAKER_02: I went through Usher's whole discography.
• 1:57:29
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I was familiar already, obviously he's fucking Usher.
• 1:57:32
  SPEAKER_02: I think Usher might be Dominican too.
• 1:57:34
  SPEAKER_02: But um okay.
• 1:57:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but um I think that Usher actually bodies Chris Brown in an RB versus.
• 1:57:44
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:57:45
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think Chris Brown makes better RB music than Usher.
• 1:57:48
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's not even close.
• 1:57:50
  SPEAKER_02: So when you say RB versus Chris Brown can't play loyal.
• 1:57:53
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 1:57:54
  SPEAKER_02: I think Chris Brown is a better pop musician than he is an RB musician.
• 1:57:59
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:57:59
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that he thinks he has to.
• 1:58:02
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, Chris Brown don't have to do anything, but I think that Chris Brown thinks that because he's black, he gotta lean into the RB thing.
• 1:58:09
  SPEAKER_02: Where I think his true talents is pop music, honestly.
• 1:58:13
  SPEAKER_02: I think he could be my because Michael Jackson's pop music.
• 1:58:16
  SPEAKER_02: Like the Michael Jackson thing is pop, like he's king of pop.
• 1:58:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like he's not the king of RB.
• 1:58:23
  SPEAKER_02: Like that's that's Kell's.
• 1:58:24
  SPEAKER_02: So I think if Chris Brown leans into pop music, I think he would be twice as big as he is today.
• 1:58:32
  SPEAKER_02: Because pop music is don't have a male superstar right now, they really don't.
• 1:58:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:58:38
  SPEAKER_02: So that that's my hot take with the Chris Brown.
• 1:58:40
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, I still I I think Chris Brown still because how like, yeah, he has pop records, but like, how many of he is he really dependent?
• 1:58:49
  SPEAKER_02: Like, no, no, no.
• 1:58:50
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think he's dependent on pop music today.
• 1:58:52
  SPEAKER_02: I'm saying in the verses, how many of those records would he be doing?
• 1:58:56
  SPEAKER_02: No, but do the verses in your brain, and I'm telling you, Usher smokes Chris Brown.
• 1:59:00
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I and I used to be on the other side of this.
• 1:59:02
  SPEAKER_02: I used to be like, what?
• 1:59:03
  SPEAKER_02: It's breezy.
• 1:59:04
  SPEAKER_02: But then when I started when I went back to Usher shit, I was like, nah, yeah, he got too many big jokers.
• 1:59:09
  SPEAKER_02: Like Usher got too many songs that Chris Brown don't have a song to match.
• 1:59:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think Usher only has now if they do like a remember, uh Versus only 20 records.
• 1:59:17
  SPEAKER_02: If they do like like uh Chris Brown wins career, yeah, Chris Brown wins the longevity game because he just has more music, right?
• 1:59:24
  SPEAKER_02: But if just 20 records versus 20 records, I think Usher kills Chris Brown like easily.
• 1:59:28
  SPEAKER_02: I think Usher only has three unbeatable songs.
• 1:59:33
  SPEAKER_02: I thought so too, but go back and listen to it, bro.
• 1:59:36
  SPEAKER_02: I don't have them off top right now.
• 1:59:38
  SPEAKER_02: All right, give me three unbeatable songs, Usher songs.
• 1:59:41
  SPEAKER_02: Confessions, we know that.
• 1:59:42
  SPEAKER_02: Let it burn.
• 1:59:43
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's beatable.
• 1:59:45
  SPEAKER_02: What song, Chris Brown, that are you putting on against Let It Burn?
• 1:59:48
  SPEAKER_02: Do you remember how Let It Burn starts?
• 1:59:50
  SPEAKER_02: Do you the ballad at the beginning of that song?
• 1:59:55
  SPEAKER_00: Damn, I gotta refresh.
• 1:59:57
  SPEAKER_03: Is it beat?
• 1:59:58
  SPEAKER_03: Alright, alright, okay, I'll give you that.
• 1:59:59
  SPEAKER_03: Confessions, let it burn.
• 2:00:00
  SPEAKER_02: Um, what's the third one?
• 2:00:02
  SPEAKER_02: Um I have yeah, I just I just did this too.
• 2:00:08
  SPEAKER_02: Now he I think he has like five, honestly.
• 2:00:10
  SPEAKER_02: That you feel like Chris Brown can't.
• 2:00:12
  SPEAKER_02: He cannot fuck with.
• 2:00:14
  SPEAKER_02: And then once Chris Brown burns his five that he's gonna try to match those with, then Usher just kills him very slowly.
• 2:00:20
  SPEAKER_02: No, you gotta the unbeatable ones, you gotta burn it with boo boo.
• 2:00:23
  SPEAKER_02: No, but he he's not gonna do that because Chris Brown thinks he's Chris Brown.
• 2:00:26
  SPEAKER_02: Well, he knows he's good brown, sorry, no disrespect.
• 2:00:28
  SPEAKER_02: So he's gonna try to hit it with the doom doom doom doom doom doom doom, and then he's just gonna lose.
• 2:00:34
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, but but but I think um that's that was my hot take.
• 2:00:38
  SPEAKER_02: I think Chris Brown, A, uh, he gets smoked by Usher and the versus, and that was on the other side of the argument, like a year ago, two years ago.
• 2:00:43
  SPEAKER_02: And B, I think Chris Brown should go pop.
• 2:00:46
  SPEAKER_02: Don't look at it like, oh, if I go pop, I'm selling out.
• 2:00:49
  SPEAKER_02: I think he feels that way.
• 2:00:50
  SPEAKER_02: Like he has to do RB.
• 2:00:52
  SPEAKER_02: But I think he's actually an exceptional pop artist.
• 2:00:54
  SPEAKER_02: And I think he could, if he wants to do the Michael Jackson thing for real, for real, go pop.
• 2:00:58
  SPEAKER_02: Pop is pop is missing something.
• 2:01:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 2:01:01
  SPEAKER_02: Including pop and all, right?
• 2:01:03
  SPEAKER_03: On both sides.
• 2:01:05
  SPEAKER_03: Can the weekend into this argument?
• 2:01:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the the weekend is is is is a pop star.
• 2:01:10
  SPEAKER_02: No, I know, but can he can he beat any of them?
• 2:01:13
  SPEAKER_02: Nah, nah, nah.
• 2:01:14
  SPEAKER_02: He's gonna have like an RB.
• 2:01:16
  SPEAKER_02: He don't got the weekend?
• 2:01:17
  SPEAKER_02: Just songs in general, including his pop records.
• 2:01:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he don't got enough records.
• 2:01:20
  SPEAKER_02: And I and I like the week.
• 2:01:21
  SPEAKER_02: I like weekend's pop shit more than I like his RB's.
• 2:01:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, nah, you don't got it.
• 2:01:25
  SPEAKER_02: Because his RB records aren't touching these two niggas.
• 2:01:27
  SPEAKER_02: For me.
• 2:01:28
  SPEAKER_02: They're just gonna smoke him with RB's.
• 2:01:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, just yeah.
• 2:01:30
  SPEAKER_02: His his pop shit is is elite though.
• 2:01:32
  SPEAKER_02: Like I fuck with I fuck with the weekend's pop music more than his RB music.
• 2:01:36
  unknown: Yeah.
• 2:01:36
  SPEAKER_00: Going to your um Chris Brown take, I I I see what you mean with the whole pop thing.
• 2:01:42
  SPEAKER_00: And um I I I understand.
• 2:01:45
  SPEAKER_00: I I because he he has some hits in in pop.
• 2:01:48
  SPEAKER_00: No, he doesn't agree with this nigga.
• 2:01:49
  SPEAKER_00: No, give me a second, give me a second.
• 2:01:51
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, because I do understand what you're saying.
• 2:01:52
  SPEAKER_02: They want me to not because you don't know the history of this pod.
• 2:01:55
  SPEAKER_02: These niggas want me to be wrong about everything.
• 2:01:57
  SPEAKER_02: Because I'm so right and I'm such an asshole about being right.
• 2:02:00
  SPEAKER_00: I gotta be wrong.
• 2:02:01
  SPEAKER_00: So, but I appreciate you guys.
• 2:02:03
  SPEAKER_00: I I I I could see that I could see what you what you're saying.
• 2:02:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, at the same time, though, I don't agree with what you're saying about um him feeling like um if you don't do RB, he'll like like feel like he's selling out.
• 2:02:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um I think you know, um, I think he's just he'll just have to do that bag as well.
• 2:02:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I could I'm I'm not mad at what you're saying.
• 2:02:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, no, of course.
• 2:02:24
  SPEAKER_00: But like he'll have to do like the Drake, where it's like, I give you the the the soft and I give you the Drake don't lean away from the pop shit.
• 2:02:32
  SPEAKER_02: He leans into the pop shit.
• 2:02:34
  SPEAKER_02: Like Drake knows that this is what makes the money.
• 2:02:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 2:02:36
  SPEAKER_02: The rapture's always gonna be.
• 2:02:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like yo, excuse me, man.
• 2:02:42
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's he should have just gone.
• 2:02:44
  SPEAKER_02: But you know what it is?
• 2:02:45
  SPEAKER_02: He should have been he should have saw Justin Timberlake and was like, this is my competition.
• 2:02:49
  SPEAKER_02: Right, right, right.
• 2:02:49
  SPEAKER_02: Give me that.
• 2:02:50
  SPEAKER_02: And that's that's the path to Michael Jackson.
• 2:02:52
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, you're saying Chris Brown's downfall was folk trying to focus on RB?
• 2:02:56
  SPEAKER_02: I think he felt like he needed to.
• 2:02:57
  SPEAKER_02: He had the skill set, he had he has the look, he has he has everything, he has the package, and but RB is so black-coated.
• 2:03:04
  SPEAKER_02: He kind of needed to, though.
• 2:03:05
  SPEAKER_02: He kind of did.
• 2:03:06
  SPEAKER_02: He's he's black because he because he's black.
• 2:03:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like you you gotta kind of do it because you're a sellout if you just go pop.
• 2:03:12
  SPEAKER_02: Like, that's like but you see, we didn't look at Michael Jackson.
• 2:03:14
  SPEAKER_02: And I mean, didn't he still beat Justin Timberlake?
• 2:03:18
  SPEAKER_02: He's not bigger than Justin Timberlake?
• 2:03:20
  SPEAKER_02: No, he's definitely you see, I don't know, in the pop world, was he?
• 2:03:22
  SPEAKER_02: Because Justin Timberlake, just in general, like no, I mean, of course he's Chris Brown, but Justin Timberlake was like the guy in pop for and I feel like Chris Brown could have easily just took that and just ran with it and became Michael Jackson.
• 2:03:34
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, the whole Rihanna thing was gonna destroy his career regardless.
• 2:03:38
  SPEAKER_02: But you know, this is gonna be a hot take.
• 2:03:39
  SPEAKER_02: That Rihanna shit was kind of pop.
• 2:03:41
  SPEAKER_02: Remember, pop?
• 2:03:42
  SPEAKER_02: It's a lot of drugs and rock and roll and pop.
• 2:03:46
  SPEAKER_02: It's kind of pop.
• 2:03:48
  SPEAKER_02: I'm dead ass.
• 2:03:51
  SPEAKER_02: Jigger, that was him.
• 2:03:52
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't do that.
• 2:03:54
  SPEAKER_02: But I feel like the bad boy thing would have worked a little bit more in the pop music world.
• 2:03:58
  SPEAKER_02: Like that pop music, you love the scandals, you love the, you know, the little shit going on behind the scenes.
• 2:04:04
  SPEAKER_02: Like he could have started a beef with Justin Timberlake, because remember, we had the Michael Jackson Prince thing.
• 2:04:07
  SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
• 2:04:08
  SPEAKER_02: That was all, you know, pop music.
• 2:04:09
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 2:04:10
  SPEAKER_02: So what's unfortunate about the Rihanna thing, and it's kind of funny, but it's not funny, but we can laugh at it.
• 2:04:15
  SPEAKER_02: I I'm not laughing.
• 2:04:18
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not laughing with y'all nigga.
• 2:04:20
  SPEAKER_02: The thing is, like, I I hate that they framed it like he beat her instead of framed it like she took her.
• 2:04:27
  SPEAKER_02: But what is he talking about, man?
• 2:04:29
  SPEAKER_02: Because it was a fight.
• 2:04:30
  SPEAKER_02: He didn't he didn't just attack her, they were fighting.
• 2:04:33
  SPEAKER_02: And he just I don't think men and women can fight.
• 2:04:37
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think men, I think niggas beat women's ass.
• 2:04:39
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's what happened.
• 2:04:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he was wrong for that, he shouldn't have done it.
• 2:04:44
  SPEAKER_02: And was what was she?
• 2:04:46
  SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't know.
• 2:04:47
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 2:04:47
  SPEAKER_02: She was wrong for that?
• 2:04:48
  SPEAKER_02: You can't even say that.
• 2:04:49
  SPEAKER_02: Come on, AG.
• 2:04:50
  SPEAKER_02: Like, damn.
• 2:04:51
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 2:04:51
  SPEAKER_02: I don't need no cease and desist paper plate hats on my girl.
• 2:04:54
  SPEAKER_02: Jay-Z's a powerful man in the city, bro.
• 2:04:56
  SPEAKER_02: When I get some um RB tickets in the mail, don't come back.
• 2:04:59
  SPEAKER_03: Listen, I'm gonna but I I do feel like um I've never I've never been to a Chris Brown show.
• 2:05:06
  SPEAKER_03: I regretted kind of not going to the last one.
• 2:05:08
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like I should go to this one.
• 2:05:09
  SPEAKER_03: You bringing your girl?
• 2:05:10
  SPEAKER_03: A girl?
• 2:05:12
  SPEAKER_03: Um that you care about?
• 2:05:15
  SPEAKER_00: She ain't going on stage, I'll tell you that much.
• 2:05:18
  SPEAKER_03: That's crazy.
• 2:05:19
  SPEAKER_00: Your girl can't go on stage with Chris.
• 2:05:22
  SPEAKER_02: That nigga kiss girls in the mouth.
• 2:05:23
  SPEAKER_02: Fuck that, baby.
• 2:05:23
  SPEAKER_02: Chris Brown and Usher, get the cherry?
• 2:05:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:05:27
  SPEAKER_02: You ain't about the Usher with the cherry.
• 2:05:28
  SPEAKER_02: You can go the cherry.
• 2:05:29
  SPEAKER_02: Do you look at it the same?
• 2:05:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like the kissing and taking the cherry out of usher.
• 2:05:32
  SPEAKER_02: I can explain the cherry.
• 2:05:33
  SPEAKER_02: I can go back to my block about the cherry.
• 2:05:35
  SPEAKER_02: You can't go back to your block about the girl.
• 2:05:38
  SPEAKER_02: Your girl tonguing fucking Chris Brown.
• 2:05:40
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 2:05:40
  SPEAKER_02: And you in the crowd.
• 2:05:41
  SPEAKER_02: I know you shoot that nigga?
• 2:05:43
  SPEAKER_02: Well, no, I met a Chris Brown crowd.
• 2:05:45
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you won't even be, you don't.
• 2:05:46
  SPEAKER_02: When was the last time you went back to your block?
• 2:05:48
  SPEAKER_02: I was there.
• 2:05:49
  SPEAKER_02: I just told you.
• 2:05:50
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, you was working.
• 2:05:54
  SPEAKER_00: He was just there realized it wasn't his block.
• 2:05:57
  SPEAKER_00: It's over.
• 2:05:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, crazy.
• 2:06:00
  SPEAKER_02: Where's um where are the losers from your block today?
• 2:06:06
  SPEAKER_02: Some of them niggas are still at their corner store.
• 2:06:08
  SPEAKER_02: I was about to say, like, did you see them still?
• 2:06:09
  SPEAKER_02: I saw a couple of niggas still there.
• 2:06:11
  SPEAKER_02: Now, a lot of people move.
• 2:06:12
  SPEAKER_02: They're just not like area, not around.
• 2:06:15
  SPEAKER_02: It's crazy.
• 2:06:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 2:06:16
  SPEAKER_02: Shout out my block, though.
• 2:06:17
  SPEAKER_02: Shout out the first and the hearse, you heard it.
• 2:06:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 2:06:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um, why don't you want to go to the show?
• 2:06:22
  SPEAKER_02: Or show?
• 2:06:23
  SPEAKER_02: Chris Man.
• 2:06:24
  SPEAKER_02: I would love to go.
• 2:06:25
  SPEAKER_02: Let's go.
• 2:06:26
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I said, that's that's not gay.
• 2:06:28
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.
• 2:06:29
  SPEAKER_02: I'm asking.
• 2:06:30
  SPEAKER_02: Perfect.
• 2:06:31
  SPEAKER_03: I I wanted to ask uh Mike.
• 2:06:33
  SPEAKER_03: So, Mike, what happened?
• 2:06:35
  SPEAKER_03: Going out to a restaurant, to whatever.
• 2:06:38
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I don't say whatever, to a restaurant with one male.
• 2:06:43
  SPEAKER_03: That's gay.
• 2:06:44
  SPEAKER_03: No, I don't believe so.
• 2:06:45
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 2:06:46
  SPEAKER_02: AG's not always right.
• 2:06:49
  SPEAKER_02: No, he's just gonna say we're Dominican.
• 2:06:51
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't want to disrespect Mike.
• 2:06:53
  SPEAKER_02: You have no problem disrespecting him.
• 2:06:55
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 2:06:55
  SPEAKER_02: Mike, I love it.
• 2:06:56
  SPEAKER_02: If you go out in that same scenario, and you have toast, tell him.
• 2:07:02
  SPEAKER_02: Tell him, tell him what that is, bro.
• 2:07:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um tell them what that is.
• 2:07:07
  SPEAKER_02: That's not my cheese mode, bro.
• 2:07:08
  SPEAKER_03: You can't say you ain't do that.
• 2:07:09
  SPEAKER_03: More life.
• 2:07:13
  SPEAKER_03: No, I don't think it's gay.
• 2:07:14
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think it's gay.
• 2:07:15
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think it's gay.
• 2:07:16
  SPEAKER_02: Mike, I thought really highly of you, bro.
• 2:07:19
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, is it your boy?
• 2:07:21
  SPEAKER_02: Nah, you've never done that, though.
• 2:07:22
  SPEAKER_02: I promise you you've never done that.
• 2:07:23
  SPEAKER_02: But why is it?
• 2:07:24
  SPEAKER_02: But why is it not gay to go to your wardrobe?
• 2:07:25
  SPEAKER_02: With one nigga?
• 2:07:26
  SPEAKER_02: Like you and one guy are toasting?
• 2:07:28
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I mean.
• 2:07:29
  SPEAKER_02: You've never done that.
• 2:07:31
  SPEAKER_02: No man has done that much.
• 2:07:33
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe not toasting, but like salute type shit.
• 2:07:35
  SPEAKER_00: You feel me?
• 2:07:36
  SPEAKER_00: No, yeah, the clink, that's that's gay.
• 2:07:39
  SPEAKER_00: You can raise a glass.
• 2:07:40
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you talk about like the little twinkling?
• 2:07:42
  SPEAKER_00: Him and this nigga one.
• 2:07:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because that's more like what I mean.
• 2:07:47
  SPEAKER_01: How'd you do it then?
• 2:07:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, baby.
• 2:07:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, no.
• 2:07:52
  SPEAKER_02: You gotta do the clink.
• 2:07:53
  SPEAKER_02: Just the salute.
• 2:07:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no.
• 2:07:54
  SPEAKER_02: He clinked.
• 2:07:55
  SPEAKER_02: Them niggas clinked.
• 2:07:57
  SPEAKER_02: Tell him what that is, bro.
• 2:07:58
  SPEAKER_02: Don't be nice.
• 2:07:59
  unknown: Yeah.
• 2:07:59
  SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
• 2:08:00
  SPEAKER_02: There's nothing wrong with that, but it is what it is.
• 2:08:02
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, before we get into that.
• 2:08:03
  SPEAKER_03: Cultures, cultures, cultures.
• 2:08:04
  SPEAKER_03: Real quick.
• 2:08:05
  SPEAKER_03: Like literally two minutes.
• 2:08:07
  SPEAKER_03: Um did you make up with your friend?
• 2:08:12
  SPEAKER_03: Um I don't know.
• 2:08:15
  SPEAKER_03: So that's obviously a no.
• 2:08:16
  SPEAKER_03: I d I don't know.
• 2:08:18
  SPEAKER_02: I is have I spoke since we spoke about it on the phone.
• 2:08:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 2:08:20
  SPEAKER_02: Did he see the pod?
• 2:08:21
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 2:08:22
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 2:08:24
  SPEAKER_02: He's on the play.
• 2:08:25
  SPEAKER_02: I think it was a good.
• 2:08:26
  SPEAKER_02: But so alright, what don't I how don't you know?
• 2:08:29
  SPEAKER_02: Like, did you did y'all share a laugh?
• 2:08:31
  SPEAKER_02: Did you No, we we hung out twice.
• 2:08:33
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, y'all hung out?
• 2:08:34
  SPEAKER_02: But in a in a group setting.
• 2:08:35
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 2:08:36
  SPEAKER_02: And it was it was cool.
• 2:08:38
  SPEAKER_02: But it's it's still not.
• 2:08:40
  SPEAKER_02: Did y'all do y'all a handshake?
• 2:08:42
  SPEAKER_02: I knew y'all got a handshake.
• 2:08:43
  SPEAKER_02: We no, we don't have a handshake.
• 2:08:44
  SPEAKER_02: We have.
• 2:08:45
  SPEAKER_02: And we we had we it was like good good time, good old time.
• 2:08:48
  SPEAKER_02: But I still think there's something there that needs to be and y'all said everything I've had to say.
• 2:08:55
  SPEAKER_02: It's just time, you feel like?
• 2:08:56
  SPEAKER_02: Nah, I did not say everything I needed to say.
• 2:09:00
  SPEAKER_02: Remember, I was kind of getting stonewalled.
• 2:09:02
  SPEAKER_02: So so why don't you take those opportunities to say it?
• 2:09:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um it was a it's a group setting.
• 2:09:07
  SPEAKER_02: I kind of I would want to have like a one-on-one situation.
• 2:09:11
  SPEAKER_03: But you were saying that you couldn't get him on the phone.
• 2:09:12
  SPEAKER_03: Now you're now you're able to get him on the phone.
• 2:09:14
  SPEAKER_02: I haven't attempted to do that.
• 2:09:16
  SPEAKER_02: So now you're dropping the ball.
• 2:09:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I think that's fair.
• 2:09:19
  SPEAKER_02: But I I I'm just waiting for an opportunity that I don't want to push the issue because like if you weren't answering my like you know, like You don't want to force it.
• 2:09:28
  SPEAKER_02: No, I don't want to do that.
• 2:09:29
  SPEAKER_02: But eventually I want to still speak my piece because I just didn't like how even though even if things never go back to how they were before, I just want to be able to express that okay, I might have stepped on your foot, but it was not intentional.
• 2:09:43
  SPEAKER_02: That's all I really care about.
• 2:09:44
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 2:09:45
  SPEAKER_02: And you love them.
• 2:09:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, of course.
• 2:09:46
  SPEAKER_02: Say I love you.
• 2:09:47
  SPEAKER_02: I did.
• 2:09:48
  SPEAKER_02: No, say it.
• 2:09:51
  SPEAKER_02: Not no more?
• 2:09:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, of course.
• 2:09:52
  SPEAKER_02: No, I love you, bro.
• 2:09:53
  SPEAKER_02: Uh see?
• 2:09:54
  SPEAKER_02: See what?
• 2:09:55
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think that's gay.
• 2:09:56
  SPEAKER_02: I never said it was gay.
• 2:09:57
  SPEAKER_02: But how is that not?
• 2:09:59
  SPEAKER_02: Hit the button.
• 2:09:59
  SPEAKER_02: Hit the button.
• 2:10:04
  SPEAKER_02: It's love, love, love.
• 2:10:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, no, no.
• 2:10:06
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think that's gay.
• 2:10:08
  SPEAKER_02: I invited him out and we toasted, that would be gay.
• 2:10:11
  SPEAKER_02: Y'all can't toast to like becoming friends again.
• 2:10:13
  SPEAKER_02: Hell no, this nigga, bro.
• 2:10:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yo, we almost like.
• 2:10:16
  SPEAKER_02: Nah.
• 2:10:17
  SPEAKER_02: I'd rather just not be friends.
• 2:10:18
  SPEAKER_02: Almost lost you.
• 2:10:19
  SPEAKER_02: Almost lost.
• 2:10:20
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not doing the toasting.
• 2:10:21
  SPEAKER_02: You fucking crazy.
• 2:10:22
  SPEAKER_01: Almost lost you in the nigga.
• 2:10:25
  SPEAKER_01: Nah, hell no.
• 2:10:26
  SPEAKER_02: That nigga's crazy.
• 2:10:29
  SPEAKER_02: This is hip hop.
• 2:10:30
  SPEAKER_02: I can't do that.
• 2:10:31
  SPEAKER_02: Real quick, yeah.
• 2:10:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um I'm gonna just save this this this Jana topic for another day.
• 2:10:37
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, yeah, I'll save it.
• 2:10:38
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:10:40
  SPEAKER_00: Free will though.
• 2:10:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 2:10:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 2:10:42
  SPEAKER_00: Free will, free will.
• 2:10:44
  SPEAKER_00: Y'all heard about the Kabby Lame shit with his wife and all that shit going on.
• 2:10:48
  SPEAKER_00: We'll save that.
• 2:10:49
  SPEAKER_00: We'll save that.
• 2:10:49
  SPEAKER_00: You wanna save that too?
• 2:10:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a long, it's a long topic.
• 2:10:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 2:10:52
  SPEAKER_02: Real quick though.
• 2:10:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 2:10:54
  SPEAKER_02: Ubers.
• 2:10:55
  SPEAKER_02: Can we tackle that?
• 2:10:56
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 2:10:56
  SPEAKER_02: I think we should save that.
• 2:10:57
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 2:10:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 2:10:58
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry, we're doing the save that thing.
• 2:11:00
  SPEAKER_02: Don't worry.
• 2:11:00
  SPEAKER_02: We podding, man.
• 2:11:01
  SPEAKER_02: You're getting all the pods.
• 2:11:02
  SPEAKER_02: Um keeps them invested.
• 2:11:04
  SPEAKER_02: They're gonna have to come back next up.
• 2:11:05
  SPEAKER_02: It's on some Dragon Balls.
• 2:11:06
  SPEAKER_02: Damn, that's three three topics right there.
• 2:11:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, no.
• 2:11:08
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I gotta come back then.
• 2:11:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I gotta tune in with us.
• 2:11:11
  SPEAKER_02: E-Moneybags, a lot of pressure on you.
• 2:11:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she's about to carry us again.
• 2:11:14
  SPEAKER_02: Um, anything before we leave?
• 2:11:15
  SPEAKER_02: Y'all wanna plug anything?
• 2:11:16
  SPEAKER_02: Wanna let them know when they can catch your games?
• 2:11:18
  SPEAKER_02: We're trying to you know mob out to your games, bro.
• 2:11:20
  SPEAKER_02: What kind of hat is that?
• 2:11:21
  SPEAKER_00: There's uh my team, my baseball team, uh the Braves, Bronx Braves.
• 2:11:27
  SPEAKER_00: Uh we got a game this Saturday.
• 2:11:30
  SPEAKER_00: I think uh 1 p.m.
• 2:11:32
  SPEAKER_00: is the first game, and then we got another one like four.
• 2:11:35
  SPEAKER_00: Is in Randall's Islands if you want to pull up.
• 2:11:37
  SPEAKER_00: They be out there?
• 2:11:38
  SPEAKER_00: Who be out there?
• 2:11:39
  SPEAKER_00: You know exactly what he actually don't play funny.
• 2:11:41
  SPEAKER_02: Bronx Bronx Brave.
• 2:11:42
  SPEAKER_02: What do you say?
• 2:11:42
  SPEAKER_02: Bronx Braves?
• 2:11:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Bronx Braves.
• 2:11:44
  SPEAKER_02: I'm at uh Randall's Island is nice.
• 2:11:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 2:11:48
  SPEAKER_00: Nah, they got some fire fields.
• 2:11:49
  SPEAKER_02: It's nice.
• 2:11:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's hard to fucking get a home run in there.
• 2:11:53
  SPEAKER_02: You helped them duck it, but it's all right.
• 2:11:55
  SPEAKER_02: That's my man.
• 2:11:56
  SPEAKER_02: He said I was right.
• 2:11:57
  SPEAKER_02: That's all it takes to me.
• 2:11:58
  SPEAKER_02: I'm easy.
• 2:12:05
  SPEAKER_00: Anyways, man, shout out to the team again, man.
• 2:12:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, sir.
• 2:12:08
  SPEAKER_00: Can we get a little clap for them?
• 2:12:09
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, absolutely.
• 2:12:10
  SPEAKER_00: The Bronx Braves.
• 2:12:12
  SPEAKER_00: Hopefully, we get this W, man.
• 2:12:13
  SPEAKER_02: Hopefully, we hit a home run, bro.
• 2:12:15
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 2:12:15
  SPEAKER_02: Shit.
• 2:12:16
  SPEAKER_02: My man's talking about we hit a home run.
• 2:12:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um, Charlie, anything you want to plug?
• 2:12:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um, nah, I just hope I hope y'all enjoyed my cactus blossom um fragrance.
• 2:12:24
  SPEAKER_03: Didn't smell it, but I'll try not to.
• 2:12:25
  SPEAKER_03: Um, it is uh cactus, flower petals, fresh citrus, and vanilla coconut.
• 2:12:31
  SPEAKER_02: Cool, cool.
• 2:12:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um straight to me.
• 2:12:33
  SPEAKER_02: I want to plug the real talk podcast.
• 2:12:35
  SPEAKER_02: We're about to start our own feed.
• 2:12:38
  SPEAKER_02: Uh just go to YouTube, type in the real talk podcast, go to um any podcast app and type in the real talk podcast.
• 2:12:44
  SPEAKER_02: That's when we talk about all the cool nerd shit and movies, television, video games, you know, me and my man Goffrey.
• 2:12:52
  SPEAKER_02: And I might get these two jokers on there for a couple episodes.
• 2:12:55
  SPEAKER_02: I was mad.
• 2:12:55
  SPEAKER_02: I was just about to say, yeah, I was mad I missed the Paradise review.
• 2:12:59
  SPEAKER_02: Listen.
• 2:12:59
  SPEAKER_02: Because I watched Paradise.
• 2:13:00
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm watching Fallout again.
• 2:13:02
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I you know what I realized?
• 2:13:03
  SPEAKER_02: I did see the first season, but I just forgot.
• 2:13:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because you know what the problem was, and and this is a little preview of how we talk on the real talk.
• 2:13:10
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 2:13:11
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of these shows in the modern era, the the it takes too long to produce.
• 2:13:16
  SPEAKER_02: So you kind of like fall like because the first episode, the first season was 2023.
• 2:13:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like we just finished Paradise, and when's the next time it's gonna come out?
• 2:13:24
  SPEAKER_02: 27, 2027.
• 2:13:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and like we're gonna be like, what happened again?
• 2:13:27
  SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, they gotta start, you know.
• 2:13:29
  SPEAKER_02: It's yeah, yeah.
• 2:13:30
  SPEAKER_02: But um, yeah, check us out at Real Talk, Real Talk, Real Talk Podcast.
• 2:13:34
  SPEAKER_02: Appreciate y'all.
• 2:13:35
  SPEAKER_02: Run it up, gas attendance.
• 2:13:37
  SPEAKER_02: Let's get up out of here and go.
• 2:13:38
  SPEAKER_02: Can I get a Mike?
• 2:13:39
  SPEAKER_02: Can I get it?
• 2:13:41
  SPEAKER_02: Damn.
• 2:13:42
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna have to bleep that.
• 2:13:44
  SPEAKER_02: Mike, can I get a perfect?
• 2:13:46
  SPEAKER_02: Perfect.
• 2:13:47
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I got it this time.