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Jena Lisa Jones Discusses Her Jeffrey Epstein Nightmare · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of The
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Epstein Chronicles. One of the most important things to remember
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when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein is that the people
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that he hurt are real people. They're not just some
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name on a page. They're not just these mythical figures
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that have come forward and said that Epstein hurt them.
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They're actual people with lives and dreams, hopes, aspirations, and
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all of that was taken from them. And I think
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a lot of people forget about that as they, you know,
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dive deeper into what Epstein was up to. But one
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of the most important things you can do is to
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center the survivors and their stories, because these are the
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people that suffered the most harm. They're the people that
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have to live with this for the rest of their lives,
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and they're the ones that deserve justice the most. And
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in today's episode, we have an article talking about what
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Jenna Lisa Jones went through as a fourteen year old girl.
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And to the people out there that act like Epstein
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wasn't doing what he was obviously doing, how do you
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look at a girl like this and tell her she's lying,
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especially with all the evidence backing up what she's saying.
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You have to be one of the most cold hearted,
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disgusting people on earth to look at somebody like this
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and not recognize right away the suffering she went through
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at the hands of Jeffrey Epstein. Imagine being a fourteen
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year old girl and brought into this web. You see
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all this opulence, all this luxury, all these famous people,
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and you think that shit's normal. You're like, Oh, I
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guess this is how the other half lives. I guess
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this debauchery and all of this is just normal. And
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when you're impressionable and you're fourteen, fifteen years old, sixteen
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years old, all that luxury has to look good to you,
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especially if you come from a poor home like most
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of these girls, the vast majority of them did. And
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if you don't know what it's like to be poor,
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then you have no idea. Because I promise you somebody
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offering you two hundred dollars when you're poor as Helle,
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it's a lot of money, and it accomplishes a lot
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of things for you. Maybe you get that pair of
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jeans that all the other kids at school had, or
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maybe you can get those shoes that you've been eye in.
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But mom and dad can't afford. And that's the lever
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that Epstein and Maxwell and Sarah Kellen and the rest
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of them pulled. Oh well, we can give you so
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and so all you have to do is give them
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a massage. Today's article is from The Mirror and the
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headline Jeffrey Epstein abused me when I was fourteen and
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I hadn't even kissed a boy. This article was authored
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by Amelia Randall. Jenna Lisa Jones was wrapped up in
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trying to impress her new high school friends when she
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says she was brutally assaulted by Jeffrey Epstein at just
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fourteen years old. I have a very hard time thinking
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about people like Pambondy, Todd, Blanche Cash, Mattel, Donald Trump,
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James Comer and the rest of them looking at this girl,
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hearing her story and not providing her justice. There's no
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coming back from that. And how in the fuck can
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you look at this girl and say we're gonna move on.
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It's just beyond my capacity. I just can't wrap my
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mind around it. And look, I get it, we're not
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all built the same, but I think that we should
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all share at least a very basic set of morals right, Like,
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if we can't even agree that a fourteen year old
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girl shouldn't be molested by Jeffrey Epstein, then what the
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fuck are we even doing? Because I would think that
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that's just basic morality that everybody can get down with.
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Growing up in West pom Beach, Florida, Jenna Lisa grew
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up in poverty and had to resort to stealing money
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from her friend's bags to pay for lunch. Her difficult
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childhood led her to make friends with the wrong people. Then,
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on one tragic afternoon, she was traumatized for life. In
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a matter of hours. She spent a lot of time
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at one new friend's house, often hiding under her bed
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to avoid going home. She went to drink and smoke
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with some of her new friends in a trailer park
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at fourteen years old. Then she heard about a guy
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named jeff and this is the kind of shit they
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tried to use against these girls. Oh, they were drinking,
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they were on MySpace talking about boys. They were doing this,
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that or the other thing. Yeah, like normal teenagers. I
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didn't have social media when I was growing up, but
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if I did, I'm sure I would have been posting
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about the same shit, bro we were at a rager
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last weekend. You should have seen the kegstans I was doing.
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Does that mean I'm a piece of shit or that
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I shouldn't be listened to if a crime happens and
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I'm a witness to it, or that somebody commits a
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crime against me because I like to have a couple
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beers at a party and post it on MySpace at
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fifteen years old. Come on, man, now, I know everybody
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didn't get down and drink when they were younger. I
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get that, but the vast majority of us, at the
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very least experimented. But all of that was used against
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these girls to say they didn't have credibility and to
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try and kill the case. And if that's not bad enough,
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it wasn't Epstein's lawyers doing it. It was the prosecution themselves.
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They're the ones that killed their own case. They're the
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ones that destroyed their own witnesses. The now mother told
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Soft White Underbelly. They started making fun of this guy
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named Jeff and talking about massages and stuff. He was
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a creepy old guy and they're laughing, they're making jokes.
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There was one ring leader in particular that Jenna Lisa remembers,
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she said, the very popular girl. Something about her to
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this day could make you do the craziest things. She's popular,
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she has it all together. She's outgoing, she can sell
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you your own shoes right back to you. Type of personality,
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and you know the type in high school, the really
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popular kids that everybody wants to hang out with, and
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kids are impressionable. If John and Joe are doing this,
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then Mike, you wants to do it. And that's just
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how it works, especially with pure pressure. And then you
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add the fact that you're poor and vulnerable, and you
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see other kids getting a bunch of dough for massages,
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you're going to be in. She was like, if you
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guys want to go, you can make two hundred bucks.
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I was stealing out of my friend's backpacks and gym
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class to get lunch. So getting two hundred dollars for
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giving a massage, which is what it was told to
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me as didn't seem that bad. How else was I
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going to make that kind of money? And I think
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people need to keep that in perspective. Please keep in
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mind that everybody didn't grow up the way you did,
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and the struggle is real, and when you're a poor
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like that, Like I was saying, two hundred dollars means
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the world, especially if you're stealing out of your friend's
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backpacks for lunch money. No kid should ever go through that,
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And what it does is it sets people up to
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be abused. So the fourteen year old girl agreed to
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give this man a massage. Jenna Lisa explained the girl
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was making it seem very fun. She was letting me
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wear her clothes from the mall. She said she never
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usually got to wear these clothes, as her grandparents bought
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her clothes for her. She was telling me I was
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pretty and hyping me up. I didn't know why she
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was being nice to me, Now I do. It's also sad.
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The whole entire sexual Ponzi scheme that was going on
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here is just so disgusting and it's very misunderstood. A
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lot of these girls were coerced into bringing other girls
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to Jeffrey Epstein, and a lot of them were miners.
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Keep that in mind now, if you're over eighteen and
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you're doing this shit, we got a big problem. But
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these girls who were miners fourteen, fifteen years old, they're
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being exploited from both ways. Not only are they being
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exploited themselves and abused, they're bringing their friends into the
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belly of the beast. And the whole point was to
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make them complicit. That was what Epstein was looking to do.
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A cab took them to Palm Beach Island. It was
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just a short drive from Jenalice's home, but she was
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shocked by the stark wealth just a short distance away
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from her home. She said, I remember being really shocked
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seeing it. It was all this money that I knew
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was out there, but I had never seen it. Yo.
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I get that feeling. When I first moved to Las Vegas,
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we lived in a place that was not very good. Now.
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We moved out here because my grandmother was sick and
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my parents were super young at the time, so my
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dad was just getting established as far as his job,
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so we had to give everything up in New York
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and we had to move out here because my grandmother
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was sick. And right across the street from where I
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lived was this country club. I lived in this little
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ass rundown, beat up apartment, and right across the street
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was this beautiful country club with more money than you
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could imagine, and it really put things in perspective. For me,
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you know, it was us and them. They got these
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big walls, these gated entrances, these security guards. It was
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a whole different world, And to be honest with you,
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it was a world that I never thought i'd have
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a chance to step into. And when you're a poor
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it's very hard to think out of the box because
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you're so worried about your day to day. You're not
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playing the long game, especially at fourteen. She had warned
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us that we would each go up and massage them
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for thirty minutes, and we would go up by ourselves.
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That's just how we likes it, and he might ask
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us to take our shirts off, but we didn't have
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to do anything we weren't comfortable with. But she tells
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us this in the cab when we're already on our way.
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Jenna Lisa said that there was a whole house of
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people working. The girl brought her friend up first, but
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the friend was only up there for five minutes. Then
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Jennalisa was brought up to Epstein without her being able
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to talk to her friend about what happened. On being
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taken up to the massage room, she said that she
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thought it was weird Epstein wasn't already in it. The
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popular girl who had brought her told her to take
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her shirt off and pretty much tells me to get naked.
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Jenalisa said, She's like, you can leave your underwear on.
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And I was just standing there and I was like,
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do I take my shirt off? Do I not take
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my shirt off? But I didn't want to make this
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girl mad, so pretty much, do as you're told. So
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I'm just standing there waiting for him, and he walks
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in in a towel and lay his face down and
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he directs me the whole time on what to do.
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It was very much demands and weird stuff, not talking
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and asking questions. He sets a timer like an egg
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timer next to the massage table. For me, that was
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like I knew how long I had to stay. I thought,
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if I can just get through this thirty minutes. In
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the beginning, it was just a massage. Then a couple
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minutes in he flips over and it's like a crazy
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clown face is the best way I can describe it.
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This normal man that had walked into the room till
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when he flipped over, there was excitement in his face
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like he knew what was about to happen, and I
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had no clue. Yikes, I can't even begin to imagine
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what somebody like Jenna Lisa Jones went through. Imagine being
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in that room and this dude flips over looking like
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the fucking Joker, with this weird ass wiener hanging out,
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no thank you. Then he takes his towel off, He
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pretty much tells me to take off all my clothes.
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Then he does horrific things for me at that time
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because I hadn't even kissed a boy, not groped or
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touched or any of that. So she's a virgin and
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this is happening to her. Guys, I'm not usually lost
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for words, but I'm lost for words about that. Then
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he takes his towel off, He pretty much tells me
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to take all my clothes off. Then he does horrific
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things to me at that time because I hadn't even
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kissed a boy, not groped or touched or any of that,
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and now I had this old man taking control of me,
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and I couldn't say anything or didn't know how to
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say anything, And where would I go? I was in
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the room by myself, and is my friend going to
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be mad at me if I get upset. There's so
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many things at that moment, at fourteen that I couldn't
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even process all of it. So you just keep looking
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at the clock and try not to make eye contact,
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and do what you're told and just get through this
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pure pressure. That's what it came down to. She didn't
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want to feel bad and have the friend mad at her,
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and she thought it was all normal. Her friend told her, Hey,
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this is what we do. It's all good. Then she
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gets in there and it becomes something completely different, and
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it leads to her getting assaulted by this piece of
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shit Jeffrey Epstein. He's sexually assaulted me. He touched me
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inappropriately and put his hands in places he shouldn't have.
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I feel bad when I say that that it hurt
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me so bad because I know that people get raped
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and I went there on my own free will. So
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you hold that guilt that you set yourself up for that. Nah, sorry,
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you were a kid. The only people that are culpable
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are the adults, and I mean all the adults, including
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the ones that should have been supervising kids like Jenna
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Lisa Jones. He finishes, he does his thing, then he
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gets up his towel and walks out. I'm standing there.
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Just hurry up and put my clothes back on so
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I can go back downstairs. My friend and her friends
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are hanging out by the pool. When I was up
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there getting abused, I was so confused at so many
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aspects of what just happened to me, like that would
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be hard to process as an adult, never mind fourteen
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years old. I pull my friend to the side in
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the bathroom and asked her what happened, and she goes,
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he didn't like me because I was too developed, too old.
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That's what that means. She looked a little too old,
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and that wasn't good enough for Jeffrey. So she didn't
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know what happened. And when she said to me, I
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didn't want to tell her what happened to me because
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I was embarrassed of what happened. I felt like I
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got the damage and they got the money. Jenna Lisa
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Jones was unaware of Jeffrey Epstein's status until many years later.
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She then found a lawyer and focused all of her
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efforts on having her day in court with him. Then
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he was found dead in twenty nineteen while awaiting trial
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on federal charges of sex trafficking miners. I wanted my
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day in court, she told Shadow Sessions podcast. I didn't
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get that, and we were so close to it. It
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really got ripped from us. And then after Epstein passed,
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everything just went into a circus show. Well, that's true.
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Everything just erupted and it was crazy. The information was
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coming in so quickly that it was hard to process.
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A lot of it was bs and a lot of
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it was part of a sy op, but there was
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definitely nuggets in there, and it's those nuggets that led
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us to a place that we're at today. She said.
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Trump ran his whole freaking election on the release of
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these freaking files, and it sparked it back up all again.
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Gave us hope, gave me hope at least he runs
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his campaign on this, and he runs it really, really hard,
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to the point that a lot of us voted for him,
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and there's a lot of people out there that voted
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for Trump who feel deceived over the Epstein situation. He
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ran his fat ass yap on the campaign trail about Epstein,
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this and Epstein that, only to crap out when he
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had a chance at the table. As soon as he
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gets in, we started pushing for the release of the files,
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and now it's a democratic hoax, she said, referring to
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Trump's dismissal of some calls to the release for additional
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Epstein files. For Jennalisa, justice is simple, she said. For me, now,
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is America taking the predators that are here in our country? Yes,
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take them down in every country. But I would like
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to see some of that. That would give me a
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little bit more faith and that we're doing the right
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thing and we're protecting our children. She added. When you
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speak out, they eat you alive. You have a lot
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of support, but you also have a lot of crazy
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people that are out there, she said, adding that she
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received death threats for speaking out. What the fuck is
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wrong with people? Death threats to somebody who's been abused
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by Jeffrey Epstein. Do everybody a favor and find a
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different topic to talk about. Go talk about Charlie Kirk.
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I hear all the crazies love that one. Every time
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I share my story and a young girl reaches out
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to me, sends me art work she's made, writes me
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a letter, tells me how important it is that I'm
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fighting and speaking out. It reminds me every freaking day,
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exactly why I'm doing this and will not stop doing
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this even after I get whatever justice looks like for
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me in my case. And I think that's the story
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for a lot of these survivors. It's not just about
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them anymore. It's about the system that allowed them to
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be abused. So they're not just fighting against you, Jeffrey
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Epstein and the remnants of Epstein's criminal empire. They're fighting
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back against the system that allowed for their abuse to occur.
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And until that system is fully exposed and dealt with,
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none of us are shutting up, and we're certainly not
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moving on. All the information that goes with this episode
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