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Desperate search for missing Kristin Smart · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Climb Stories with Nancy Grace on Sirius XM Triumph Channel
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Speaker 1: one thirty two. The twenty year search for Kristen Smart.
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Speaker 1: How's a new twist investigation has led us back here
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Speaker 1: where it first began, the campus at cal Poly, and
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Speaker 1: that is a place where Kristen was last seen. A
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Speaker 1: new lead in the longgoing investigation was determined over the
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Speaker 1: past couple of years after a comprehensive review of the
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Speaker 1: case that lead led us to this location. We brought
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Speaker 1: in specially human remains detection dogs. Were hopeful that this
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Speaker 1: will lead to the finding of Kristen or evidence that
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Speaker 1: will bring closure to the family. This beautiful girl, beautiful girl,
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Speaker 1: Kristen Smart, a student at cal Polly. One night, she
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Speaker 1: attends a birthday party. She's never seen again. What happened?
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Speaker 1: I Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us. What happened to Kristen Smart? With me now?
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Speaker 1: Her family Denise and stand Smart. Also with me, Mark
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Speaker 1: Class founder of Class Kids, Victims advocate lifelong mission. Also
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Speaker 1: with me Crime Stories investigative reporter Larry may Her Everyone,
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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. I want to start
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Speaker 1: with Kristen's parents, Denise and stand. You know what, even
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Speaker 1: now after so many many years, when people just suddenly
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Speaker 1: ask me about my fiance's murder, it's like a bucket
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Speaker 1: of cold water in the face. I can be having
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Speaker 1: a perfectly fine day, then somebody brings it up, and
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm right back where I started
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Speaker 1: to Denise Smart and stand. I want to thank you
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Speaker 1: for reliving this again in our search for justice. Denise,
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Speaker 1: what do you recall that day? And again I thank
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Speaker 1: you Larry Mark and Joe Scott Morgan joining us. Denise,
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Speaker 1: what do you recall of that day? Obviously we didn't
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Speaker 1: know the first day, we didn't know the second day.
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Speaker 1: We didn't know the third day because cal Poly did
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Speaker 1: not take a request from her friends to look for her.
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Speaker 1: So by the time Monday evening came around, which was
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Speaker 1: she disappeared Friday night, we didn't hear anything till Monday
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Speaker 1: evening and we got a call from the campus if
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Speaker 1: we knew where she was. And you know, I think
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Speaker 1: every parent will tell you you have a gut reaction
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Speaker 1: when you know something's not right and someone calling you
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Speaker 1: out of the blue and saying do you know where
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Speaker 1: your daughter is? And she's two hundred miles away. UM
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Speaker 1: stumps again, just going back to there. And I think
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Speaker 1: it says you referenced that it comes back. It just
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Speaker 1: always comes back. And whenever you hear about a missing child, UM,
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Speaker 1: you relive it for that that family as well. When
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Speaker 1: you say you relive it when you hear about a
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Speaker 1: missing child or a missing teane, what do you mean
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Speaker 1: by relive it, Well, that probably that first day, that
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Speaker 1: first week, it just comes back into your psyche. You
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Speaker 1: you are thinking again about how this family is having
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Speaker 1: to cope with something that is a nightmare beyond anyone's comprehension.
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Speaker 1: And you know, as we move forward through twenty one years, UM,
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Speaker 1: it's a very long and lonely road to have such
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Speaker 1: a long unknown to not know where your child is. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 1: there are way too many families who lose their children
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Speaker 1: to illness, their accidents. And I don't want to say
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Speaker 1: that there's resolution there, but when you are having to
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Speaker 1: fight for justice and deal with so much frustration highs
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Speaker 1: and lows anxiety. Um. Even though people friends and family
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Speaker 1: may feel you need to move on, when you don't
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Speaker 1: know where your child is, you really cannot move on.
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Speaker 1: In addition to Denise Smart, Kristin's mother with us is
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Speaker 1: stand smart, her father stand back to May. That night,
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Speaker 1: you're absolutely beautiful and brilliant daughter, Kristen had gone to
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Speaker 1: a party I get together. She was a student there
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Speaker 1: at cal Poly, and two of her friends, Cheryl Anderson
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Speaker 1: and Tim Davis, we're also leaving the party, and they
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Speaker 1: walked Kristen back to her dorm that night. Right, what
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Speaker 1: do you recall the first you heard Kristen was missing?
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Speaker 1: What happened? Well, if you're asking me, initially the campus
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Speaker 1: police thought our daughter had gone camping with friends, and
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Speaker 1: this is why she had not returned to campus, that
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Speaker 1: she had overstayed, you know, the vacation time, and so
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Speaker 1: initially I was a little upset, and although after a week,
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Speaker 1: you know, it appeared that something horrible had happened, and
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Speaker 1: so I had gone down there to take a look
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Speaker 1: and meet with the campus police. And the campus police
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Speaker 1: were very ill equipped to deal with a missing person.
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Speaker 1: I think probably they would be able to handle uh
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Speaker 1: students that had been drinking, or if there had been
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Speaker 1: a party or a car park where it shouldn't be.
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Speaker 1: They had no idea what to do for an investigation
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Speaker 1: into a missing person, and so I was rather disappointed,
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Speaker 1: and they were real quick to point out that it
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Speaker 1: was our daughter who had made an error, had got
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Speaker 1: to a party like many students going to college and
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Speaker 1: away from home, and that she gotten into dry and disappeared,
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Speaker 1: and so they left really to blame with you know,
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Speaker 1: with us, with our daughter, and that was very disappointing anyway.
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Speaker 1: After that, and after looking for and she wasn't appearing,
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Speaker 1: and they had found her purse and her belongings in
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Speaker 1: the room. She had not taken those things with her.
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Speaker 1: It was real apparent that something had happened to her.
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Speaker 1: So it's a nightmare. Like my wife had mentioned, I
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Speaker 1: spent a lot of weeks down there, in fact the
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Speaker 1: whole summer looking for my daughter. And I think it
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Speaker 1: could have been a tour director for Saint Louis Bisbo
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Speaker 1: County and just you know, a lot of heartache from it.
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Speaker 1: And is uh my wife had mentioned. When we hear
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Speaker 1: about other people who have lost a child and they're
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Speaker 1: looking for their child, are our hearts go out to them?
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Speaker 1: You know, it's amazing Mark class joining the victims right
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Speaker 1: to advocate. Mark, you lost your daughter, Polly and you've
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Speaker 1: devoted your life to call and fighting finding missing people
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Speaker 1: ever since. You know what, um Just today today I
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Speaker 1: dropped the children off. You know, I always have Karen
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Speaker 1: Hormon in the back of my mind, and so I'm
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Speaker 1: probably the only person in carpool that will not move
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Speaker 1: with you know, fifty cars behind me until I see
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Speaker 1: them walk in the door. I don't just drop him
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Speaker 1: at the curb. I wait and I sit there, and
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Speaker 1: sometimes when the the Harry eyeballs get to be too much,
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Speaker 1: I move forward. And then I stopped to stop sign
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Speaker 1: because I have my rear view mirror perfectly fixed so
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Speaker 1: I can look back and see them walk in the door. Okay.
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Speaker 1: Then just today I can't, you know, drive the McDonald's,
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Speaker 1: get some coffee, okay, chill, chill, go to work. No,
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Speaker 1: I circle back and I go and I spy and
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Speaker 1: make sure that they're okay. It's about forty minutes later.
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Speaker 1: I know in my head, Mark, that's not normal. I
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Speaker 1: know this as I'm doing it, as I'm driving, clutching
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Speaker 1: my coffee. I know it's crazy. I know it's not
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Speaker 1: normal that I can't help it. Mark, Well, you know
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Speaker 1: you're you're overly cautious. Nathey, of course they're going to
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Speaker 1: be overly cautious. I mean neither. We've been covering these
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Speaker 1: kinds of cases time and time and time again. But
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Speaker 1: as happened so often, this is just another typical case
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Speaker 1: of piling insult upon injury. They're blaming Kristen for her
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Speaker 1: own disappearance. It's absolutely mind boggling. Stan Stan says that
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Speaker 1: they're they're unequipped to deal with a missing person, won't
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Speaker 1: They're unequipped to deal with basic human emotions when they
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Speaker 1: tell these people that they're very responsible. Daughter is missing
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Speaker 1: because she made a mistake and did what every other
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Speaker 1: college freshman and America has done since time immemorial, which
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Speaker 1: is going to a party. So it started off on
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Speaker 1: a very very bad footing and unfortunately only got worse
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Speaker 1: from there. You know, Mark Class, I want you to
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Speaker 1: um tell something to the smarts which they may have
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Speaker 1: heard you say in the past many times. One thing
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Speaker 1: that drives me crazy is when young girls say twains
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Speaker 1: like um, eleven to thirteen or then thirteen to fifteen
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Speaker 1: quote air quote, go missing. The first thing cops say
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Speaker 1: is and look, I'm on the cops side. I am
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Speaker 1: the system I get it. But still when cops say, oh,
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Speaker 1: they're runaway, you lose so much time. Yes, Like in
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Speaker 1: this case, Smart class, when Polly first went missing, what
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Speaker 1: they quote the cops do when Polly went missing, Well,
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Speaker 1: the first thing that they did was they put out
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Speaker 1: an all points bulletin UM, and they said that the
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Speaker 1: information wasn't for press release. But naphew, let me tell
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Speaker 1: you something. I never met Kristian, but I know Denisian.
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Speaker 1: I know christian sister Lindsay, and Lindsay is a formidable
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Speaker 1: world class athlete. And if her sister was anything like
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Speaker 1: Lindsay is, Um, she's in a position to be able
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Speaker 1: to hopefully take care of herself in a difficult situation.
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Speaker 1: So again, to to turn this thing around and blame
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Speaker 1: it on on the young woman who's missing, UM just
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Speaker 1: just pushes the bounds of credibility to Denny Smart. Kristen's mother.
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Speaker 1: I just heard stand your husband, christ AND's dad say
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Speaker 1: that he goes there and he travels and searches and
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Speaker 1: digs and pushes the whole summer, the whole for months
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Speaker 1: there in St. Louis Obispo looking for Kristen. How in
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Speaker 1: the past before she went missing that day. How often
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Speaker 1: would you typically have spoken to her? Well, it was
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Speaker 1: pre sales one days, so we had a standard Sunday
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Speaker 1: night call, so she would call every Sunday night. And
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Speaker 1: when she didn't call on Memorial Day weekend Sunday, we
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Speaker 1: weren't alarmed because it was a long weekend and she
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Speaker 1: had left us a message on Friday night and she
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Speaker 1: had missed us, and we while we were out and
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Speaker 1: she said, I've got good news. I've got good news.
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Speaker 1: I can't wait to talk to you, So we weren't
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Speaker 1: alarmed on that Sunday night, and of course of the
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Speaker 1: next call we got was from you know, cal Poly
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Speaker 1: Security Police, when her roommate had been gone for the
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Speaker 1: weekend came home and was alarmed and had a note
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Speaker 1: from some of her other friends. Do you know where
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Speaker 1: Kristen is and her person her belongings were on the bed,
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Speaker 1: just where her roommate had seen them when she had left.
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Speaker 1: So it's like Stan said, and Mark was referencing, every
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Speaker 1: newspaper article that came out in that first six months
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Speaker 1: was about this drunk girl, and it just it just
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Speaker 1: made us live it. It has nothing to do with
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Speaker 1: whether you've got shorts on with you've got long hair,
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Speaker 1: short hair. It doesn't matter. When matters is this is
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Speaker 1: a life, and we have to value the life and
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Speaker 1: not point a finger and blame blame victims. And as
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Speaker 1: we reference, you know, cal Poly was certainly ill equipped
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Speaker 1: and inexperienced in dealing with this. And you know there
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Speaker 1: was there's any passed the Christian Smart Campus Safety Act,
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Speaker 1: which requires California campuses to have a local agreement with
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Speaker 1: law enforcement if they are even beginning to look at
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Speaker 1: a violent crime on campus. So everyone said, well, doesn't
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Speaker 1: that make you feel better? Well, yes, but it's a
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Speaker 1: little late for Kristen and they when I got on
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Speaker 1: the phone two days after I've heard about this, I
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Speaker 1: called the FBI. Was connected to a sexual assault test
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Speaker 1: force in Los Angeles. The director at the time was
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Speaker 1: Ron Iden. He was amazing. He said he would call,
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Speaker 1: they would send resources to cal Polly and guess what,
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Speaker 1: cal Polly has jurisdiction And they turned them down. No, no,
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Speaker 1: they turned them down. Joseph Scott Morrigan, death scene investigator.
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Speaker 1: What what it's always campus police? Have you noticed that
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Speaker 1: campus police say, Oh she just had too much to drink,
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Speaker 1: Oh she's out on a camping trip. The wise on
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Speaker 1: her I D and everything else laying on her bed.
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Speaker 1: She clearly made it home from the party that night.
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Speaker 1: Two friends walked her back enter Paul Flora as a
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Speaker 1: third that joined them. But her stuff's laying on her bed.
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Speaker 1: We know she hasn't gone on a camping trip and
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Speaker 1: left all of her I D and everything else there.
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Speaker 1: Why would campus police so stupidly refuse FBI help. Joe Scott,
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Speaker 1: I have no idea, Nancy, and speaking as a current
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Speaker 1: university professor, and uh, it's it's it's mind boggling that
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Speaker 1: they would do this. Uh. And what Mrs Smart had
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Speaker 1: said just a moment ago really kind of really pricked
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Speaker 1: my ears for a second. She made reference to the
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Speaker 1: fact that, uh that uh, there was a missing drunk girl.
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Speaker 1: What that narrative had to come from somewhere, And that narrative,
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, started with security slash police. And there's
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Speaker 1: this huge disconnect in investigations. There's a very specific timeline
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Speaker 1: that we work on, and once that trail begins to
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Speaker 1: go cold, Once that trail begins to go cold, everything
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Speaker 1: in the future has the potential to fall apart because
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Speaker 1: the foundation you lay in the beginning, and to me,
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Speaker 1: this smax of just absolute apathy and laziness and it's
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Speaker 1: is striking, absolutely strike well, it strikes to me a
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Speaker 1: finger pointing because Chris is gone missing. They're on campus
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Speaker 1: for stuffs in her dorm. She clearly made it that far.
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Speaker 1: Nobody knows about this camping trip. And long story short,
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Speaker 1: they started saying, oh, she was drunk, she was wearing this,
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Speaker 1: child disappears, that time is of the and you're sitting
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Speaker 1: twelve year girl running away with her old girl. You
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Speaker 1: watching these minutes take away twenty four hours, forty eight hours,
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Speaker 1: seventy two hours, and they tell you if your child
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Speaker 1: has been kidnapped and they're going to be murdered and
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Speaker 1: straws and hoping against hope itself. And couldn't agreemore when
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Speaker 1: we talk about missing evidence, there is a very important
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Speaker 1: player in this scenario that I want to get to.
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Speaker 1: That night, when Kristen's friends or two college friends, they
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Speaker 1: were in classes there at cal Poly with her. They
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Speaker 1: walk her Cheryl Anderson Tim Davis both were leaving the
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Speaker 1: party as well, and they walk her to her nearby
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Speaker 1: dormitory where she was living. At that juncture, another student
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Speaker 1: comes up, Paul Flora's. He joins the group and offers
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Speaker 1: to help. They all walk back. They all get Kristen
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Speaker 1: to her room safely. Tim Davis departs the group first,
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Speaker 1: he lived off campus and he had driven to the party.
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Speaker 1: Cheryl Anderson was the second to leave. She tells Paul
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Speaker 1: he could walk Kristen back to her dorm since he
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Speaker 1: lived closer there. Right there at the dormitory, they can
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Speaker 1: see it, and Flora says he walks Smart as far
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Speaker 1: as his dormitory, Santa Lucia Hall, and that she can
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Speaker 1: is fine, and she walks back to Moor Hall dorm,
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Speaker 1: her dorm, all by herself. Now, that is not what
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Speaker 1: Cheryl and Tim intended. They were all going to walk
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Speaker 1: all the way back. What happens? Stand Smart, How is
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Speaker 1: it that suddenly it's Paul Flores there alone with Kristen. Well,
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Speaker 1: that's the big question. I really can't respond to that.
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Speaker 1: You know, at up being the last person seeing her alive.
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Speaker 1: More than likely she was under the influence from alcohol
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Speaker 1: or drugs given her taken at the party, and I
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Speaker 1: imagine he steered her over towards his dorm. His roommate
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Speaker 1: wasn't there, as roommate was gone for the weekend, and
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Speaker 1: I suspect that our daughter ended up in his room.
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Speaker 1: There was a follow up. I'm sure you're going to
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Speaker 1: mention with some dogs that ended up going to his
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Speaker 1: room of all the rooms on the campus, and that
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Speaker 1: someone had died there is what they could determine. But
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Speaker 1: that was the last we had heard of our daughter,
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Speaker 1: and that was Wait a minute, wait a minute, could
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Speaker 1: you back that Upstand? What did you say about evidence
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Speaker 1: suggesting someone had died there, right, they when there was
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Speaker 1: a search of the campus, they used independent right cadaver
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Speaker 1: dogs at different time to go by, and they zeroed
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Speaker 1: in on his room and the bed in his room
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Speaker 1: and the waste basket, and all they could determine was
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Speaker 1: somebody had died in that room. They didn't know who
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Speaker 1: was our daughter or someone else, but that was the
22:16
Speaker 1: evidence that they had and at the time, and still
22:20
Speaker 1: they have not been able to determine what chemicals you know,
22:24
Speaker 1: when a body, when a person dies a leave as
22:28
Speaker 1: samp I guess you would say that a dog can determine,
22:31
Speaker 1: but a human can't. And that's what you know. The
22:35
Speaker 1: dog handlers indicated, so it looks like someone died in
22:40
Speaker 1: Paul for his dormitory room. To Joseph Scott Morgan joining
22:45
Speaker 1: us explain to our listeners how that would have happened.
22:50
Speaker 1: And a question though, stand smart when the cold ever
22:52
Speaker 1: brought dogs brought into the ring during we always probably
22:57
Speaker 1: was later that summer, I was going to say, three
23:00
Speaker 1: months after she disappeared. So three months later they get
23:04
Speaker 1: evidence like that that may or may not ever be
23:06
Speaker 1: brought into a courtroom, but it's it's three months later,
23:10
Speaker 1: Joe Scott Morgan, how does that help us find Kristen? Well,
23:14
Speaker 1: it gives us an indication that based upon the there's
23:18
Speaker 1: there's two things here, all right, just so that we understand,
23:21
Speaker 1: we have what's referred to as as qualitative versus quantitative, okay,
23:26
Speaker 1: And qualitative means that these dogs can go in and
23:29
Speaker 1: they can sense they can sense a decompositional essence in
23:32
Speaker 1: the air, okay, and that they picked up on this,
23:36
Speaker 1: and it indicates us that if something took place in
23:39
Speaker 1: that room involving human remains, a human person, that that
23:44
Speaker 1: that essence that was left behind was not cleaned up,
23:46
Speaker 1: that this decomposition was still going on, even at the
23:49
Speaker 1: level of like blood, And that's what this would lead
23:52
Speaker 1: me to believe, and that it wasn't sufficiently cleaned in
23:55
Speaker 1: this area. And so you had all of this period
23:57
Speaker 1: of time until the dogs got there, I mean, going
24:00
Speaker 1: back to Memorial Day you're talking about at the end
24:02
Speaker 1: of the summer. They would really hit on this very hard.
24:05
Speaker 1: Now where it goes from there, Lord only knows, but yeah,
24:08
Speaker 1: it's a strong indicator. It could point us in certain directions.
24:11
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're right, Nancy, can't this is not something
24:14
Speaker 1: that you'll see pop up in court. So just to
24:17
Speaker 1: make a comment if I could. On top of that,
24:20
Speaker 1: then the university cleaned the room and they put students
24:24
Speaker 1: back in the room for the oncoming term and the fall,
24:29
Speaker 1: which is hard for me to believe that no one
24:31
Speaker 1: went in there and looked for forensic evidence and did
24:35
Speaker 1: not go through the room before they cleaned it put
24:37
Speaker 1: students in it again to use it. Yeah, we asked
24:41
Speaker 1: if a forensic team had been brought into the room,
24:45
Speaker 1: and they point blank told us they didn't need it.
24:48
Speaker 1: They were just looking for evidence that Paul may have
24:51
Speaker 1: left behind. So there were no hair fibers had to
24:55
Speaker 1: be found our fingerprints because they never brought a forensic team.
24:58
Speaker 1: Oh what a Travis look I get. I get really
25:03
Speaker 1: tired of people, uh in the present going back to
25:07
Speaker 1: the past and saying, well, we didn't know what to
25:09
Speaker 1: do back then. The technology has now surpassed the people
25:12
Speaker 1: that we were back then. That's a load of garbage.
25:15
Speaker 1: There is a way, even way back then that we
25:18
Speaker 1: correctly process scenes. And this goes back to what we
25:21
Speaker 1: initially talked about with the disconnect between the local police,
25:26
Speaker 1: the FBI, and and this cow Poly group and this,
25:30
Speaker 1: this does irreparable harm to this case. And I will
25:34
Speaker 1: not abide anybody making excuses in the fenze. Well, you're right,
25:37
Speaker 1: because I can recall to Mark class. When I first
25:41
Speaker 1: started prosecuting, which was back in the late eighties, we
25:44
Speaker 1: had fingerprint we had hair comparison. We couldn't do a
25:47
Speaker 1: DNA test for a couple of more years, but you
25:50
Speaker 1: could get hair similarities. You could determine um, absolutely fingerprints.
25:57
Speaker 1: You could get fibers. I mean, fibers have been known
26:00
Speaker 1: since the Wayne Williams child serial killing case. Fibers can
26:04
Speaker 1: prove a case. All that was in existence in the
26:08
Speaker 1: late eighties. Well, it was in existence, yeah, and simple
26:12
Speaker 1: things like when he was first confronted by cow Poly police, Um,
26:18
Speaker 1: he had black eye bruises, scrapes on his knees. Did
26:22
Speaker 1: they take a photograph? No, they didn't take a photograph.
26:25
Speaker 1: And the only reason we know about those is he
26:27
Speaker 1: turned himself in over the weekend for an outstanding d
26:30
Speaker 1: u I and they happened to have taken his pictures
26:33
Speaker 1: and in the picture he was holding up his numbers,
26:35
Speaker 1: so you can see the scrapes and bruises on his
26:38
Speaker 1: hands and the black eye that he has. But yeah,
26:40
Speaker 1: cal Poly police did did none of that. So it's
26:45
Speaker 1: you know, it's been frustrating from the get go with
26:49
Speaker 1: me is Larry Mayher Crime Stories investigative reporter. Let me
26:53
Speaker 1: understand this, Larry. For those of you just joining us,
26:55
Speaker 1: we're talking about a missing girl, Kristen Smart be beautiful,
27:00
Speaker 1: brilliant athletic classes are finishing for a long holiday weekend,
27:06
Speaker 1: and Kristen calls her parents that Friday. May leaves the
27:10
Speaker 1: message saying she and her friends are going to a
27:12
Speaker 1: party at eight pm that night, and after her parents
27:16
Speaker 1: to give her a call before she leaves, they didn't connect.
27:19
Speaker 1: She did go to the party and she had a
27:22
Speaker 1: couple of drinks. Police say that two friends were walking
27:26
Speaker 1: her back to her dorm. You were hall, but enter
27:30
Speaker 1: a freshman, Paul Flories, who agrees to walk her the
27:35
Speaker 1: rest of the way. He's the last person scene with
27:38
Speaker 1: Kristen Smart. Am I'm missing something, Larry Mayher, As far
27:42
Speaker 1: as I know, no. At that point, investigators say Paul
27:46
Speaker 1: Flora's the nineteen year old freshman became a person of
27:49
Speaker 1: interest in this case, and he has been a person
27:51
Speaker 1: of interest ever since. They first talked to him. According
27:55
Speaker 1: to the Sheriff's office. Now this is different from campus police.
27:58
Speaker 1: The sheriff's office had a somewhat different, perhaps parallel investigation
28:03
Speaker 1: under way. But the investigators of the Sheriff's office identified
28:06
Speaker 1: Paul Flores as their person of interest right away. He
28:10
Speaker 1: told them that he saw Christian outside her dorm, helped
28:15
Speaker 1: her back into the dorm, and then he stopped talking.
28:18
Speaker 1: Since then to investigators and in a court deposition, he
28:22
Speaker 1: has taken the Fifth Amendment. You know what, Larry Mayher,
28:24
Speaker 1: You're right. And as a matter of fact, let's take
28:27
Speaker 1: a listen to Paul Flores, where did you attend high school?
28:31
Speaker 1: On the advice of my attorney, I feased to answer
28:34
Speaker 1: that question based on the Fifth Amendment a United States Constitution?
28:38
Speaker 1: What is the name of your father? On the advice
28:41
Speaker 1: of my attorney, I feeds answer that question based on
28:44
Speaker 1: the Fifth Amendment of the United States Constitution? What is
28:47
Speaker 1: your mother's name? On the advice of my attorney, I
28:51
Speaker 1: have pease answer that question based on the Fifth Amendment
28:54
Speaker 1: a United States Constitution. There you hear a person of interest.
28:58
Speaker 1: Paul Flores heatedly taking the Fifth Amendment, even to the
29:02
Speaker 1: point he won't even say who his mom and dad are.
29:04
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29:07
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29:10
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Speaker 1: Larry Mayhert said was actually dead on and that is
30:44
Speaker 1: the sheriff's parallel investigation. However, I don't know when that
30:49
Speaker 1: parallel investigation kicked in because of the campus security police delay,
30:56
Speaker 1: so many days had passed. UM. I want to go
31:00
Speaker 1: to Denise and stand smart. Denise, you were talking about searches,
31:05
Speaker 1: searches of structures. Explain well as you referenced before count
31:12
Speaker 1: Poly police refused to let in outside help and apparently
31:16
Speaker 1: the d a's office was working on the side and
31:18
Speaker 1: working on it and Um, but it was took thirty
31:21
Speaker 1: days before the jurisdiction was released. We had a meeting
31:24
Speaker 1: with local legislators and her case was released officially to
31:29
Speaker 1: the Sheriff's department and there was an immediate search. As
31:33
Speaker 1: for when we talked about the cadaver dogs that hit
31:35
Speaker 1: on his room. But then after that his family had
31:38
Speaker 1: two homes in a nearby town of a royal Grande,
31:42
Speaker 1: and based on the cadaver dogs um alerting on his room,
31:48
Speaker 1: a search warrant was issued for his father's house and
31:51
Speaker 1: a Royal Grande. And once again, and this is the
31:54
Speaker 1: Sheriff's department, these are the people that you want to trust.
31:57
Speaker 1: They did a search at the house, but they didn't
32:00
Speaker 1: bring a forensic team, they didn't bring the dogs. They
32:03
Speaker 1: just did a walk through the house and found newspaper
32:08
Speaker 1: articles about Kristen under both the father's and the mother's bed,
32:11
Speaker 1: found a police baton, and they left and they were done.
32:15
Speaker 1: And this property probably is at least half an acre.
32:18
Speaker 1: You could have a cemetery in the backyard. And so
32:21
Speaker 1: we have asked repeatedly, through multiple sheriffs and multiple investigators,
32:26
Speaker 1: to go back to the house and to look again
32:30
Speaker 1: and to actually do a search. So it's just unreal
32:34
Speaker 1: to us that they didn't even bring a forensic team.
32:37
Speaker 1: And when we asked why, they were very straightforward with
32:40
Speaker 1: us and they said they were looking for her keys
32:43
Speaker 1: because they found in criminal cases of violence against women
32:48
Speaker 1: that the perpetrator likes to hold on to an item.
32:52
Speaker 1: So they didn't need a forensic team because they were
32:54
Speaker 1: just looking for her keys. And on the same lines,
32:57
Speaker 1: they had a search warrant. Well, they didn't have a
32:59
Speaker 1: search war, but maybe they did. They went to the
33:03
Speaker 1: mother's house, which was about well, wait a minute, are
33:06
Speaker 1: there were headlines lots of headlines recently um trumpeting for instance,
33:13
Speaker 1: is Kristen Smart buried in this backyard? Neighbors and a
33:16
Speaker 1: wonder dog say, yes, what are they talking about? Stand? Well,
33:24
Speaker 1: the information that we had is that there's a possibility
33:28
Speaker 1: that our daughter could be in the backyard of the
33:31
Speaker 1: residents where the mother resides and Royal Grande and uh,
33:37
Speaker 1: there was a search with some ground penetrating radar on
33:42
Speaker 1: some of the property, but not all the property, and
33:45
Speaker 1: there's interest Afterwards, another person from my wife could give
33:50
Speaker 1: you better details on it. Person from the university came
33:54
Speaker 1: with another dog and felt that the residue or the
33:59
Speaker 1: body was still in the yard, that they hadn't been
34:02
Speaker 1: searched completely. And so that's the big question whether or
34:06
Speaker 1: not there could be a search for it. To go
34:08
Speaker 1: back in and look further in the yard for our
34:12
Speaker 1: daughter's body. Let me understand about an ex FBI agent
34:17
Speaker 1: suggests that Kristen's remains maybe under a cement slab poured
34:24
Speaker 1: by the last man to see her alive. Denise right, Well,
34:30
Speaker 1: there are a couple of things I like to insert here,
34:32
Speaker 1: and one is that, yes, the FBI agent went forward
34:36
Speaker 1: and he wrote up um less subpoena to go back
34:41
Speaker 1: to the house. And apparently they took a vote in
34:45
Speaker 1: the sheriff's department and they opted not to follow that lead.
34:49
Speaker 1: They voted not to go back to digging the yard. Now,
34:52
Speaker 1: subsequent to that, Paul Flores's mother and her boyfriend filed
34:58
Speaker 1: a civil lawsuit against my husband and I for their
35:01
Speaker 1: emotional distress. So I can't begin to tell you how
35:05
Speaker 1: stressful that was and unbelievable. But in the course of that,
35:09
Speaker 1: the mother allowed an FBI person and others to go
35:13
Speaker 1: in and selected areas in the backyard, and they did
35:15
Speaker 1: do a dig in the areas that the mother approved
35:18
Speaker 1: that they could go to. And the dogs that my
35:22
Speaker 1: husband was referencing from Dr Vast from the University of Tennessee,
35:26
Speaker 1: and he looks for again the center of the aroma
35:31
Speaker 1: in in the land that possibly leads to a human
35:38
Speaker 1: remain in the yard, and he picked up the scent
35:41
Speaker 1: by going somewhere around the perimeter of the yard. So
35:47
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I don't know where she is.
35:49
Speaker 1: I just know that we as a family want to
35:53
Speaker 1: feel at the end of the day, whether if we
35:55
Speaker 1: don't find her, that everything possible was done that could
35:59
Speaker 1: be done. And when these things are only halfway done,
36:02
Speaker 1: there's there's no piece to Mark class joining me. Mark
36:08
Speaker 1: all the way back to the room, room number one,
36:13
Speaker 1: that dorm room. More than one dog was brought in
36:17
Speaker 1: to St. Lucia Hall. Each dog alerted on a corner
36:22
Speaker 1: of a bad mattress located on the left side of
36:25
Speaker 1: the room that was Floriss Paul Flores's bed. Every dog
36:32
Speaker 1: did the same thing. Now we know that a cement
36:38
Speaker 1: slab was poured by Paul Flores on his mom's property.
36:45
Speaker 1: What will it take Mark to get a warrant to
36:48
Speaker 1: look under that. I believe Nancy, that before victims ever
36:53
Speaker 1: have equity in our justice system at any level, we
36:58
Speaker 1: need a constitutional amendment for victims rights in the United
37:02
Speaker 1: States Constitution, because the word victim doesn't exist in the Constitution.
37:07
Speaker 1: Yet at least fourteen separate rights exist for individuals who
37:11
Speaker 1: have been accused of committing crimes in the Constitution. So
37:16
Speaker 1: at the very basic level, I think we need that,
37:19
Speaker 1: but I we we can't lose sight of the incredible
37:23
Speaker 1: irony that exists in this case. The data she disappeared
37:28
Speaker 1: was designated by Ronald Reagan as National Missing Children's Date,
37:32
Speaker 1: and that was done. Is A is A is a
37:34
Speaker 1: way of bringing attention to the plight of missing children
37:38
Speaker 1: and hopefully prompting law enforcement agencies to be trained in
37:43
Speaker 1: the investigation missing children. But we can see from this case,
37:48
Speaker 1: from police's case, from so many other cases, that that
37:51
Speaker 1: symbolism fell far short of its intended goal. Hopefully, as
37:57
Speaker 1: we move forward, law enforcement agencies will and I think
38:00
Speaker 1: they have taken these kinds of situations more seriously so
38:05
Speaker 1: that the next time a young girl finds yourself in
38:09
Speaker 1: Christian situation, it will be investigated correctly and it will
38:13
Speaker 1: be solved in the family will not be left in
38:15
Speaker 1: agony hanging there for more than two decades. All this
38:19
Speaker 1: time just got more. Gonna look back at the evidence,
38:22
Speaker 1: and there we've even got Paul Flora's lying because he
38:27
Speaker 1: claimed the black eye and you can see it in
38:30
Speaker 1: his mug shot. For the d U I was caused
38:32
Speaker 1: by taking an elbow to the face during the game
38:34
Speaker 1: of pickup basketball with his college buddy Jeremy Moon, four
38:38
Speaker 1: days earlier. That's in the sheriff the Schaefer's report that
38:41
Speaker 1: I read it's quoting and Schaffer was the FBI agent
38:44
Speaker 1: quoting investigators. But prosecutor's report. They reach the friend, Jeremy Moon,
38:50
Speaker 1: and he didn't agree with that. So they go back
38:53
Speaker 1: to Flora's and he says, okay, it's confirmed that he
38:57
Speaker 1: already had the black eye at the time he showed
39:01
Speaker 1: up to play basketball. So the ask force. He goes, well,
39:03
Speaker 1: I don't know how I got a black high and
39:05
Speaker 1: they go, well, why did you lie about it? And
39:08
Speaker 1: he says, well, I thought it would sound stupid to
39:10
Speaker 1: say I bumped it on the steering wheel of my truck.
39:13
Speaker 1: I mean, he's caught in one lie after the next.
39:17
Speaker 1: What more will it take Joe Scott Morgan to reopen
39:21
Speaker 1: this and get a warrant for that cement slab and more. Yeah,
39:24
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. What is gonna eventually push this
39:28
Speaker 1: over the top is is the fact, uh that Christmas
39:32
Speaker 1: parents continue to push on this thing. It just escapes me.
39:36
Speaker 1: How much more information do you need? How much more
39:40
Speaker 1: information do you need in order to generate a warrant?
39:44
Speaker 1: Uh relative to probable cause? Because the idea is stacking
39:49
Speaker 1: up all the time. And and let's keep in mind,
39:51
Speaker 1: this is stacking up in spite, in spite of what
39:55
Speaker 1: the police have not done in this particular case, or
39:58
Speaker 1: where they just seem to let it pass away. This
40:01
Speaker 1: thing is absolutely unexplainable. Where they get to pick and
40:05
Speaker 1: choose in the backyard where they're going to search. That's
40:08
Speaker 1: that's that's It's like the inmates are running the asylum here.
40:12
Speaker 1: That that is that runs completely contrary to everything that
40:16
Speaker 1: you practice in in in criminal investigations. You're not dictated
40:20
Speaker 1: as to where you will and will not go relative
40:24
Speaker 1: to something like this. You write the warrant and you
40:26
Speaker 1: go and you do it. But for whatever reason, they
40:28
Speaker 1: have chosen not to pursue this like it should be pursued.
40:32
Speaker 1: To Larry Mayher Crime Stories, contributing investigative reporter, Larry, where
40:36
Speaker 1: does the case stand now? What about Flora's? Where is he?
40:40
Speaker 1: As far as I know, Flora's is living his life.
40:43
Speaker 1: He is still can identified as a person of interest
40:45
Speaker 1: by sad Luis Simpispo County Investigators. UH. The county shaff
40:50
Speaker 1: ordered an excavation on the cow campus in and saying
40:56
Speaker 1: that what was found there is being reviewed and leads
41:00
Speaker 1: are being followed. Form was recovered Now we do know
41:03
Speaker 1: that some human remains were recovered from that dig at
41:07
Speaker 1: cal Poly, but those remains so far have not been identified. UH.
41:11
Speaker 1: The FBI says it is still actively involved in this investigation,
41:15
Speaker 1: but it declines to elaborate on what the FI is
41:18
Speaker 1: doing in this investigation. And that's where pretty much it
41:22
Speaker 1: stands at this point. The most recent statement from the
41:25
Speaker 1: from the sheriff Ian Parkinson is that the leads are
41:29
Speaker 1: being actively reviewed and that there is still information they
41:33
Speaker 1: are recovering from the results of that excavation on the
41:37
Speaker 1: Cow Polly campus in sixteen denyse Smart deep believe those
41:41
Speaker 1: are Christians remains. I don't know if their Christians remains,
41:44
Speaker 1: but what I do know is that until you do
41:47
Speaker 1: the job, you won't have an answer. And it could
41:51
Speaker 1: be that Kristen was in the yard is no longer
41:54
Speaker 1: in the yard. She may have been moved to the parents,
41:56
Speaker 1: to the father's yard. But if you bring in the
41:59
Speaker 1: correct team. They can analyze and they can tell you
42:02
Speaker 1: if she was or she wasn't there. That's not something
42:05
Speaker 1: I can do, but I believe she's not far away.
42:07
Speaker 1: The parents are not revered in the community, yet they
42:12
Speaker 1: hold two houses. They could easily move down the road
42:15
Speaker 1: and be anonymous citizens, but they have chosen to stay
42:19
Speaker 1: and protect these two homes. And normal people don't do that.
42:24
Speaker 1: And there's a billboard with Christian's picture on it that
42:28
Speaker 1: they have to pass every single day to go to
42:32
Speaker 1: their houses. So what is she in one of those yards?
42:36
Speaker 1: I would say the chances are yes. What we know
42:39
Speaker 1: is that this guy Flora's. Before he became a person
42:43
Speaker 1: of interest in Christmas disappearance, he had been accused of
42:46
Speaker 1: stalking another girl on campus. According to St. Louis Obispo
42:51
Speaker 1: police report, he showed up drunk around Christmas trying to
42:57
Speaker 1: break into another cow poly coeds apartment, climbing up her balcony,
43:03
Speaker 1: and she suspects he was trying to break in on
43:06
Speaker 1: her apartment. Okay. The report goes on to state he
43:11
Speaker 1: is believed to have made countless anonymous phone calls for
43:14
Speaker 1: over six weeks to the girl and then approaches her
43:18
Speaker 1: at parties and won't leave her alone. Not long ago,
43:24
Speaker 1: Flora spotted in San Pedro, California. He stepped out of
43:27
Speaker 1: a home, looked around to each side to see if
43:30
Speaker 1: anybody was coming. He opened the door to a white
43:34
Speaker 1: Chevy parked on the street. He starts the engine and
43:38
Speaker 1: then breaked. When a Daily Beast reporter approached him. The
43:42
Speaker 1: reporter asked her, you Paul Florence, the last person to
43:45
Speaker 1: see Kristin alive? And he played dumb, trying to only
43:49
Speaker 1: confirm that that Paul Floris lived at the address, saying quote, oh,
43:54
Speaker 1: he does live there. Finally, he was pressed by the
43:58
Speaker 1: Beast reporter, are you you Flora's and he goes, oh yeah.
44:03
Speaker 1: He starts rolling up the car window put it in reverse.
44:06
Speaker 1: Then they said do you remember Kristen Smart? And he goes,
44:11
Speaker 1: uh right, yeah, have a good day. That's it. But
44:16
Speaker 1: you know what, it's not over yet. It's not over yet.
44:22
Speaker 1: You can't you can't live under a dark cloud forever.
44:25
Speaker 1: You have to look back and at the joy and
44:29
Speaker 1: the life that your child had, Denise and stand smart
44:32
Speaker 1: with me. Kristen's parents, what can you tell me about
44:36
Speaker 1: a scholarship? Well as we talked about twenty one years
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Speaker 1: is a very long time to focus and live under
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Speaker 1: the dark cloud of your child's disappearance. So I think
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Speaker 1: we all came to the conclusion that it was time
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Speaker 1: to lift that cloud and focus on her life. She
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Speaker 1: was a young woman with big dreams. She believed in
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Speaker 1: almost the impossible, and we feel it's time now to
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Speaker 1: focus on back on her life and her dreams and
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Speaker 1: try to give other young women a chance to live
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Speaker 1: their dreams. So the scholarship was set up so that
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Speaker 1: we will honor young women who have interests similar to Christian's,
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Speaker 1: that they can move forward and reach their dreams. And
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Speaker 1: although Christian's voice and dreams were silenced, this is a way,
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Speaker 1: the way, a way to give back. So we're really
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Speaker 1: excited about it and it's an uplifting piece. And as
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Speaker 1: we've talked about in this whole piece is parents really
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Speaker 1: don't have a voice and they can't lead. But in
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