Latest / 3 and Out with John Middlekauff / NFL Offseason Mailbag: Mendoza Overhyped? Herbert, Hurts, or Darnold? Criticism for Dak?
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- 0:01Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on everybody, John Middlecoff three
- 0:18Speaker 1: and out podcast? How are we doing my people? Hopefully
- 0:21Speaker 1: everyone is doing well and living life, enjoying life. I
- 0:27Speaker 1: am still in Los Angeles. I go home tomorrow. Then
- 0:30Speaker 1: I actually go to Sacramento for a night for my buddies.
- 0:35Speaker 1: He technically got married at the at the courthouse, but
- 0:37Speaker 1: he's having a big party on Saturday night, so I'm
- 0:40Speaker 1: I'm excited for that one. See if some of my
- 0:42Speaker 1: nice clothes still fit. You know, as a podcaster, you
- 0:44Speaker 1: wear a lot of pullovers and shorts and sandals. We'll
- 0:47Speaker 1: see if We'll see if I can still get those
- 0:49Speaker 1: dress pants around the waist. Though the peptide is starting
- 0:52Speaker 1: to kick in. I'm starting to feel a little bit better.
- 0:55Speaker 1: We're gonna do a big mail back today, little weekend
- 0:57Speaker 1: mail back at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff is the
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- 1:02Speaker 1: the show. A little bit of a slower time because
- 1:04Speaker 1: all these teams are in draft meetings. There's no transactions.
- 1:08Speaker 1: We'll probably dive deeper into the into the draft next week,
- 1:12Speaker 1: but yeah, today will be a heavy, heavy mail bag.
- 1:14Speaker 1: You guys know the drill. Just fire into those dms.
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- 1:25Speaker 1: that out. And I think we, like I said, I'm
- 1:31Speaker 1: gonna be home for a couple of days over the
- 1:33Speaker 1: weekend and my mom's and my brothers, but I'm gonna
- 1:39Speaker 1: try to record some stuff on Sunday night in reaction
- 1:42Speaker 1: to the Masters, might go live on YouTube on Sunday night,
- 1:46Speaker 1: probably from my brother's office, who has like a best
- 1:49Speaker 1: Internet known to man. I think they got a start link.
- 1:51Speaker 1: It kicks ass to take names, So I'll keep you
- 1:54Speaker 1: updated to that on the social channels. But uh yeah,
- 1:58Speaker 1: let's just dive into the pot. We will start today
- 2:03Speaker 1: with he doesn't actually put his name. It's kind of
- 2:05Speaker 1: like it says wash with the money sign. Question for
- 2:08Speaker 1: the back, do you ever miss your scouting days when
- 2:13Speaker 1: you see all the mock drafts and get the itch
- 2:16Speaker 1: to dip your toe back in. Would love to see
- 2:19Speaker 1: you rank some of these college guys by position one
- 2:22Speaker 1: to three or five, just to get your take on
- 2:25Speaker 1: things from a scouting perspective. I think we'll hammer that
- 2:28Speaker 1: home next week because it's gonna be slow. It's a
- 2:30Speaker 1: good idea. Just maybe my favorite player, maybe a player
- 2:33Speaker 1: I think is a little bit overrated. I just everyone
- 2:37Speaker 1: does a mock draft. It's the same players. Especially in
- 2:39Speaker 1: this draft. I love Sonny Styles. He's a guy doing
- 2:44Speaker 1: a little digging. I clearly, I mean he might go five,
- 2:48Speaker 1: but maybe we can hammer that home and do some
- 2:52Speaker 1: do some kind of get nerdy, get get really nerdy.
- 2:57Speaker 1: I think the hard part about this draft, and let's
- 3:00Speaker 1: I've been doing this like this has been paying my
- 3:03Speaker 1: bills much longer. This drives a little boring. There's not
- 3:06Speaker 1: that much star power, and you know part of that's
- 3:11Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, right. I mean, people have been trying to
- 3:14Speaker 1: make Ty Simpson a first rounder. Maybe he ends up
- 3:17Speaker 1: a first rounder. Not in a million years, could I
- 3:20Speaker 1: take him in the first round. I've been saying this
- 3:23Speaker 1: over and over. Guys like Ty Simpson, Guys like Mac Jones.
- 3:27Speaker 1: I got no problem taking him in the third round.
- 3:29Speaker 1: Mac Jones gonna play in the league for who knows.
- 3:33Speaker 1: If Chase Daniels can play the league fourteen years, Mac
- 3:35Speaker 1: Jones can play in the league a decade and a
- 3:37Speaker 1: half easy, But he's a backup, and then another wrong
- 3:40Speaker 1: would be in a backup. Hell, Kirk Cousins is gonna
- 3:42Speaker 1: make twenty million dollars over the next two years being
- 3:44Speaker 1: a backup, so well, actually twenty million dollars just to
- 3:47Speaker 1: be the backup this year technically, because he's making ten right,
- 3:51Speaker 1: and he's gonna get ten next year. So the Raiders
- 3:54Speaker 1: are paying him eleven and eleven point three and the
- 3:56Speaker 1: Falcons are compensating the other eight point seven. So to me,
- 4:01Speaker 1: be a back of quarterbacks one of the best jobs
- 4:02Speaker 1: in America as long as you don't really have to play,
- 4:05Speaker 1: and then you can just keep that gig going. But
- 4:07Speaker 1: Mac Jones proven there are some guys that if they
- 4:10Speaker 1: do have to play, can be a really good player.
- 4:13Speaker 1: And you know, my favorite draft since I've been doing
- 4:16Speaker 1: this was a couple of years ago when the six quarterbacks,
- 4:19Speaker 1: you know, Bo Knicks, Panix obviously the top guys May
- 4:24Speaker 1: Jaden and Caleb, but JJ McCarthy. That doesn't get any better.
- 4:28Speaker 1: So hopefully next year is a loaded quarterback draft, because
- 4:32Speaker 1: that is the thing that most people talk about, and like,
- 4:36Speaker 1: I'm trying to appeal to the largest audience, like the
- 4:39Speaker 1: guard from Penn State is an awesome prospect. If I
- 4:42Speaker 1: talked about him, I go to business and my wife
- 4:45Speaker 1: would probably not be happy. So I just this draft
- 4:49Speaker 1: also doesn't have great wide receivers. You know, it's crazy,
- 4:53Speaker 1: but wide receivers and quarterbacks. You talk to some people,
- 4:57Speaker 1: it's like Tat's the only guy in most drafts that
- 4:59Speaker 1: would going in the top twenty. We can get in
- 5:02Speaker 1: the Makai Lemon next week, who you know I like.
- 5:05Speaker 1: But again, we'll dive into that good idea. That's that's
- 5:10Speaker 1: why we utilize you guys for the mailback, because you
- 5:14Speaker 1: guys got good opinions, good takes, and good thoughts. You
- 5:18Speaker 1: and Colin are drooling all over Mendoza. Isn't the whole
- 5:22Speaker 1: appeal of him that he is NFL ready? If he
- 5:25Speaker 1: needs to sit, why not draft a project quarterback with
- 5:28Speaker 1: more talent? Well, that guy doesn't exist in this draft.
- 5:32Speaker 1: Mendoza has an average arm, weak mobility, and played like
- 5:35Speaker 1: shit against Miami. Also, they gave Kirk twenty million. Well
- 5:38Speaker 1: they didn't give twenty million. They gave him eleven million dollars.
- 5:41Speaker 1: They gave him eleven million dollars. The Falcons are paying
- 5:45Speaker 1: eight and a half a little more than that, so
- 5:48Speaker 1: they did not give him twenty million dollars. They cooked
- 5:50Speaker 1: the books because they had the Falcon situation that they
- 5:53Speaker 1: could take advantage of. Mendoza is gonna start week one.
- 5:57Speaker 1: We actually played the Cousin sound when he was with
- 5:59Speaker 1: the Raiders. You know, I knew it the moment they
- 6:03Speaker 1: signed Cousins whatever a week ago. I've lost track of time.
- 6:07Speaker 1: I'm like, I bet they make it so when he
- 6:10Speaker 1: shows up to sign his contract and be there, he
- 6:13Speaker 1: is going to be in the building when Mendoza does
- 6:17Speaker 1: his top it's not top thirty, it's because it's not
- 6:19Speaker 1: your top thirty players, but his quote unquote thirty visit,
- 6:22Speaker 1: even though Mendoza is clearly the Raiders top player on
- 6:25Speaker 1: their board, and they all spend time they watch film
- 6:29Speaker 1: together that day, and even Cousins said, Mendoz's probably gonna start.
- 6:34Speaker 1: Mendoza is gonna start week one. That you know, I
- 6:36Speaker 1: talked about this a couple of days ago. It's gonna
- 6:39Speaker 1: be a tough situation for Clint Kubiak. It's probably not
- 6:43Speaker 1: Cousin's not beating Mendoz out. Cousin is going to be
- 6:45Speaker 1: the backup. They quote unquote paid a lot for a backup,
- 6:49Speaker 1: eleven million dollars a lot for a backup. But when
- 6:51Speaker 1: you have a rookie quarterback, when beside Max Crosby, you
- 6:54Speaker 1: don't have that many guys and Linderbaum make it a
- 6:56Speaker 1: ton of money. They don't have a high price wide
- 6:58Speaker 1: receiver that they don't of. You know, their tackle doesn't
- 7:02Speaker 1: make premium money. Their running backs on a rookie contract.
- 7:05Speaker 1: Their star tight ends on a rookie contract. That's why
- 7:07Speaker 1: they were able to sign all these defensive guys. But
- 7:10Speaker 1: I do believe that by the time they get to
- 7:13Speaker 1: the middle of training camp and Mendoz has a firm
- 7:15Speaker 1: grasp on the offense, Mendoz is gonna be the starter.
- 7:18Speaker 1: But he's not not a good prospect. He's six ft five,
- 7:22Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty pounds. Greg co Sell said it today,
- 7:26Speaker 1: that is a that's a trait. Size is a trait.
- 7:30Speaker 1: Turn up. Put on YouTube and watch Ty Simpson. He
- 7:33Speaker 1: doesn't look that big. Like not being that big is
- 7:36Speaker 1: to me a negative trait. Right, So when you're six
- 7:40Speaker 1: four or six like Drake May, Josh Allen, Justin Herbert,
- 7:43Speaker 1: look at Patrick Mahomes. He's fucking built. Size matters. This
- 7:48Speaker 1: is a league full of grown ass men, with Miles
- 7:51Speaker 1: Garrett and Max Crosby and TJ. Watt and all these
- 7:55Speaker 1: guys chasing you around. You see the size of Leonard Williams,
- 8:00Speaker 1: See the size of the Lieneral. He is a enormous
- 8:02Speaker 1: human being. So I think the notion that he doesn't
- 8:06Speaker 1: have good traits. He doesn't have a great arm, he
- 8:09Speaker 1: hasn't an average above average arm. Well, those guys in
- 8:12Speaker 1: the Shanahan Kubiak system have thrived since lway. Those guys
- 8:18Speaker 1: have kicked ass and taken names in this system. It
- 8:22Speaker 1: is a system conducive. You don't need the biggest arm.
- 8:26Speaker 1: But he's accurate. His his like brain, his football IQ
- 8:32Speaker 1: is an A plus, which matters playing quarterback. Oh yeah,
- 8:37Speaker 1: he's tough, which is something we don't talk a lot about.
- 8:39Speaker 1: If you are not tough, it is extremely hard to
- 8:42Speaker 1: be a fantastic quarterback. Look at the top three quarterbacks
- 8:46Speaker 1: over the last six seven years, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson,
- 8:49Speaker 1: and Josh Allen I would say all have a plus toughness.
- 8:55Speaker 1: All these MVPs, obviously Mahomes, the Super Bowls the other
- 8:59Speaker 1: guys win a bunch of games. Elite toughness like that matters.
- 9:04Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert this year played with a broken
- 9:08Speaker 1: hand or wrist or whatever. He had lower arm injury,
- 9:13Speaker 1: broken bone somewhere down there. I think it was like
- 9:15Speaker 1: wristhand area. Aaron Rodgers this year, forty one years old,
- 9:20Speaker 1: same thing. It's like, fucking cast it up. Let's roll.
- 9:24Speaker 1: This isn't like, hey, we're load managing. You're gonna miss
- 9:26Speaker 1: a month. That is not hour rolls on Sundays. You know.
- 9:29Speaker 1: So Mendoza, I watched him. No one got hit harder
- 9:34Speaker 1: that I saw at quarterback in college football than Mendoza
- 9:37Speaker 1: got hit in that Alo State game. First play the game,
- 9:41Speaker 1: like most people, when that happened, you went Indiana, season's over.
- 9:44Speaker 1: He's out. Two plays later he shook it off and
- 9:46Speaker 1: came back in. That was when I was like, damn,
- 9:51Speaker 1: I'm sold. Not that I wasn't high on him, and
- 9:53Speaker 1: then he went on the run. I don't think he
- 9:55Speaker 1: played like shit against Miami. So to act like some
- 10:00Speaker 1: good prospect, is he John l Way Andrew Luck? No?
- 10:04Speaker 1: But is he a damn good prospect? I believe he is.
- 10:09Speaker 1: And I think one thing we do a bad job of,
- 10:11Speaker 1: especially with quarterbacks. You know, it's like, well, if he
- 10:15Speaker 1: was in the draft with so and so, will he's
- 10:17Speaker 1: not And if he was, then the Raiders would if
- 10:19Speaker 1: like Drake May was in this draft, yeah, then it
- 10:21Speaker 1: would be they'd have a legit conversation. And who knows,
- 10:24Speaker 1: maybe Drake May goes above him. But he's not in
- 10:27Speaker 1: a draft with Andrew Luck's not in this draft, right,
- 10:30Speaker 1: Caleb Williams not in this draft. He's in a draft
- 10:33Speaker 1: with a bunch of guys that historically would go in
- 10:37Speaker 1: the third round or later. And a lot of these
- 10:39Speaker 1: guys obviously this year, are going to So I'm high
- 10:43Speaker 1: on Mendoza. Had too much to drink at a hotel
- 10:48Speaker 1: bar and got talked into a Hilton Vacation timeshare meeting
- 10:51Speaker 1: that gives us three nights in a hotel for four
- 10:54Speaker 1: hundred dollars. But I have to attend a meeting about
- 10:57Speaker 1: a time share decided on Lake Tahoe for three Please
- 11:00Speaker 1: tell me Lake Taalo is great and worth worth it
- 11:03Speaker 1: before my wife divorces me for falling for this nonsense.
- 11:09Speaker 1: Is it four hundred dollars a night for three nights,
- 11:11Speaker 1: so twelve hundred dollars. Because if you've got three nights
- 11:15Speaker 1: in Lake Tahoe for total of four hundred dollars, that
- 11:17Speaker 1: that is a steal forward me the link, you know,
- 11:23Speaker 1: I would guess it's four hundred dollars a night. I've
- 11:26Speaker 1: been saying this forever. And let's use the golf tournament
- 11:30Speaker 1: for example. Most of those guys, right, the Kelsey brothers, Mames,
- 11:36Speaker 1: all the quarterbacks, the coaches, whoever that that didn't grow
- 11:41Speaker 1: up on the West Coast, specifically in California, that have
- 11:44Speaker 1: never been to Lake Tahoe. Do you notice what happens
- 11:48Speaker 1: when they first play in the golf tournament. They always
- 11:51Speaker 1: come back, and they come back until essentially they're kicked
- 11:54Speaker 1: out and not allowed back because they're not quote unquote famous. Again,
- 11:57Speaker 1: Charles Barkley has been playing for thirty plus years. I
- 12:00Speaker 1: would imagine Mahomes and Josh Allen and the kind of
- 12:02Speaker 1: that crew of guys will play as long as they
- 12:05Speaker 1: are welcome there. Why because it's paradise Lake Tahoe. Listen,
- 12:09Speaker 1: I no longer ski, I haven't skied, and I can't
- 12:13Speaker 1: even tell you the last time twenty plus years I
- 12:15Speaker 1: loved it. Like when I was in junior high in
- 12:17Speaker 1: high school, I used to go with buddies because Tahoe
- 12:19Speaker 1: to me, there was way less traffic when I grew
- 12:22Speaker 1: up Ian Davis, You get to Tahoe if there's no traffic,
- 12:25Speaker 1: like an hour and a half depending you know, snow,
- 12:28Speaker 1: it can slow down when you're going through the sierras.
- 12:31Speaker 1: But I just can't. I don't want to get injured.
- 12:35Speaker 1: I've seen my friends, my good buddy's wife tore acl.
- 12:38Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, one of my buddy's sons
- 12:42Speaker 1: broke his ankle because he ran into a rock. I'm
- 12:44Speaker 1: just like, I'm not getting injured anymore. So I Tahoe
- 12:47Speaker 1: in the winter is not that appealing to me like
- 12:50Speaker 1: it used to be when I was younger. Taho in
- 12:52Speaker 1: the summer is like my wife looked at me the
- 12:54Speaker 1: other day. Part of it is Arizona is pretty hot
- 12:57Speaker 1: in the summer. As some of you may now say,
- 12:59Speaker 1: I just tile for like a month. You can join
- 13:01Speaker 1: me or not, but I'm going I'm like, oh, I
- 13:04Speaker 1: haven't to join yet, So I cannot recommend Tahoe more
- 13:09Speaker 1: than in the summer. It's it's definitely more expensive than
- 13:13Speaker 1: it used to be. But it's just it's a vibe.
- 13:16Speaker 1: It's it's the ultimate quote unquote lake Town because the
- 13:20Speaker 1: lake is enormous and uh, it's just beautiful. It's very chill.
- 13:24Speaker 1: Have a couple of beers, have a couple of cocktails,
- 13:27Speaker 1: just look at the water. You can rent a paddle board,
- 13:30Speaker 1: rent jet skis, just go swim in it by a beach. Uh,
- 13:35Speaker 1: it's the best. I I I don't know what heaven
- 13:40Speaker 1: looks like. Don't know if I'll ever get invited in,
- 13:43Speaker 1: but hopefully it's got a little piece of Lake Tahoe
- 13:45Speaker 1: up there, because it really is heaven like. It's it's
- 13:50Speaker 1: pretty special. No Vrabel takes question. Well, the last podcast
- 13:58Speaker 1: I did that came out on Thursday. I had actually
- 14:02Speaker 1: recorded it on I guess I'm recording this on Yeah,
- 14:06Speaker 1: when it came on on Thursday. I recorded it on Tuesday,
- 14:09Speaker 1: partly because I was playing golf on Wednesday and I
- 14:12Speaker 1: didn't know my time and if I would have time
- 14:14Speaker 1: to record it, and I wouldn't have so I'm glad
- 14:16Speaker 1: I did. But obviously there was no mention of that.
- 14:19Speaker 1: The story did not break until after that was long
- 14:24Speaker 1: gone to the producers, and I was like, I we'll
- 14:27Speaker 1: talk about this later in the week. Now, my fugazi
- 14:31Speaker 1: is this before we dive into some of my takes.
- 14:34Speaker 1: I think a lot of you assume being married, everyone's
- 14:38Speaker 1: marriage is different, right. I like, probably many of you
- 14:42Speaker 1: are in a traditional marriage where it's kind of like baseball.
- 14:46Speaker 1: There are a lot of unwritten rules that we don't
- 14:49Speaker 1: have a handbook in our house of what we're allowed
- 14:51Speaker 1: and not allowed to do. It's just kind of understood.
- 14:55Speaker 1: We're in a monogamous relationship. There's no seeing other people,
- 14:59Speaker 1: there's no flirting with other people, and there's definitely no
- 15:03Speaker 1: like you know, cheating in the relation. It's not tolerated, right,
- 15:07Speaker 1: And if if you were ever caught in pictures like that,
- 15:11Speaker 1: there would be a paper served to you divorced and
- 15:14Speaker 1: your money would go bye bye. She'd take the kids
- 15:16Speaker 1: and it'd be gonzo. That's part of getting married. You're
- 15:20Speaker 1: in a relationship with one other person. That's a relationship
- 15:23Speaker 1: I'm in. But I also never assume that other people's
- 15:28Speaker 1: relationship just equal mine. And the older you get, so
- 15:31Speaker 1: I think when people see those pictures, which again i'll
- 15:33Speaker 1: dive into in one second, people assume that, like your
- 15:38Speaker 1: relationship is no different than everyone's relationship. I don't believe that.
- 15:43Speaker 1: I haven't for a long time, and from this point
- 15:45Speaker 1: on I never will. So I to assume that they
- 15:48Speaker 1: are just done in normal monogamous relationships in their home.
- 15:52Speaker 1: I don't go that far now. When the pictures broke,
- 15:57Speaker 1: my first take and this is well out there is this,
- 16:00Speaker 1: this is a private investigator. These were not I've never
- 16:04Speaker 1: been to Sedona. I've lived in Arizona for a while.
- 16:06Speaker 1: My wife's been there a bunch. She's always wanted me
- 16:08Speaker 1: to go. For whatever reason, the timing just hasn't worked.
- 16:11Speaker 1: Her mom goes up there when she comes. It's beautiful.
- 16:15Speaker 1: It typically, at least in my understanding, is a place
- 16:19Speaker 1: that draws couples in. It's a place where couples go
- 16:26Speaker 1: and a lot of like women go with their friends.
- 16:28Speaker 1: That is the vibe up there, right, And the place
- 16:32Speaker 1: they were is essentially a couple's retreat. I said this
- 16:36Speaker 1: about Tiger Woods, and one thing I'm a little uncomfortable
- 16:40Speaker 1: to do, and part of it is it's probably up
- 16:43Speaker 1: jaded from Twitter, like in twenty twenty six. I fucking
- 16:46Speaker 1: hate the pile on I think that's just loser mentality.
- 16:51Speaker 1: Not that I'm not having the same conversations on text,
- 16:54Speaker 1: but every single person piling on, Like I'm just kind
- 16:57Speaker 1: of not into that. Like I watched Tiger and maybe
- 16:59Speaker 1: it's I had a child, I'm maturing. I'm like, you know,
- 17:03Speaker 1: he's got young kids. I'm not gonna sit here and
- 17:06Speaker 1: just take a giant dump on his situation with the
- 17:11Speaker 1: range Rover on its side, him popping you know, who
- 17:14Speaker 1: knows what, Like everyone has the same takes, Like I'm
- 17:18Speaker 1: just not as into that anymore when it comes to
- 17:21Speaker 1: certain situations. And like, both these two people have kids,
- 17:25Speaker 1: so while their spouses may be cool with it, maybe
- 17:28Speaker 1: they're not. Who the fuck knows. I'm not sleeping with
- 17:32Speaker 1: either one of them, right, But like she and listen,
- 17:36Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know Mike Vrabel at all. I've
- 17:40Speaker 1: never really spent time with them. One time at the Combine,
- 17:43Speaker 1: I was with Duce s Daley at the main bar
- 17:46Speaker 1: that everyone goes to. I stake forty fours in Arizona
- 17:51Speaker 1: Prime forty seven or whatever, and we were at the
- 17:53Speaker 1: bar and I was basically standing right next to them,
- 17:54Speaker 1: but I was It was one of those where I
- 17:56Speaker 1: was like in the conversation, but I wasn't saying much,
- 18:00Speaker 1: so I don't know the guy at all. I don't
- 18:02Speaker 1: know Diana that well. The times I've been around her,
- 18:05Speaker 1: she's really cool. I like her. Like my first reaction
- 18:08Speaker 1: is like, she's cool, right, But I've never hung out
- 18:11Speaker 1: with her. Uh. She she seemed cool the interactions I've had.
- 18:16Speaker 1: I do think if they if their spouses do not
- 18:20Speaker 1: know about this, their children definitely don't. Now he has
- 18:23Speaker 1: older kids, obviously her kids are young. I've always thought like,
- 18:28Speaker 1: in these situations, it's so easy for people on the
- 18:31Speaker 1: outside to just get on social media. I mean we
- 18:34Speaker 1: see this with like people threatening fucking defensive linemen. You
- 18:38Speaker 1: suck on Twitter's Like, you would never say that to
- 18:40Speaker 1: the guy's face, not in a fucking million years, because
- 18:43Speaker 1: he's pound you. In these situations it's a little different.
- 18:46Speaker 1: Obviously Mike Vrabel would beat the shit out of most people,
- 18:49Speaker 1: but all these takes people would never say to their face.
- 18:52Speaker 1: It's clear these photos what's going on, Like there is
- 18:56Speaker 1: no conversation to be had. We all have the same reaction.
- 19:00Speaker 1: They're sleeping together, right, I got news for you. A
- 19:03Speaker 1: lot of people in pro sports are sleeping with other people,
- 19:06Speaker 1: just like a lot of people in society are sleeping
- 19:09Speaker 1: with other people. That's their deal, that's their gig. I
- 19:11Speaker 1: don't give a shit. The other thing that I kind
- 19:14Speaker 1: of hang my hat on is I truly don't care
- 19:18Speaker 1: right beside my wife and I guess maybe my close friends.
- 19:23Speaker 1: But even then, like, I'm not a dictated relationship guy.
- 19:27Speaker 1: I do not care what you do sexually with other people.
- 19:31Speaker 1: I just do not. That's on you. That's on you
- 19:34Speaker 1: to figure out. Like I maybe I'll judge you a
- 19:37Speaker 1: little bit, but like, I'm not one of those guys,
- 19:40Speaker 1: like I just don't give a shit. I don't have
- 19:43Speaker 1: the energy. Obviously, those pictures when you first see him
- 19:46Speaker 1: are kind of funny. It again, all these people like
- 19:50Speaker 1: there's no argument to be had. We know what's going on.
- 19:54Speaker 1: I just hate this pile on world that we live in.
- 20:00Speaker 1: I really do. What can be said, it's gonna be
- 20:02Speaker 1: really hard for her to ever function online because everyone's
- 20:06Speaker 1: shitting on her. When I see the double standard for
- 20:09Speaker 1: the guy, it's like, well, his fucking owner got a
- 20:13Speaker 1: hand job. On the day of the AFC Championship game
- 20:17Speaker 1: in South Florida before he flew out to Kansas City whatever,
- 20:20Speaker 1: seven eight years ago. Do you think Robert Kraft's wife,
- 20:25Speaker 1: I don't even think was in the dirt before he
- 20:28Speaker 1: had the thirty year old on his arm. Like the
- 20:31Speaker 1: world of the billionaire owners. If some of these stories
- 20:36Speaker 1: ever got out of those guys, you know, you think
- 20:38Speaker 1: these pictures are bad. The one thing I would say,
- 20:41Speaker 1: if I was that famous, you gotta be pretty cognizant
- 20:46Speaker 1: of your surroundings. And I had a buddy text me
- 20:49Speaker 1: that knows about Sedona, that is in the world of
- 20:53Speaker 1: like let's just say, like knows the people that run
- 20:58Speaker 1: that resort and people that go to that resort long time,
- 21:00Speaker 1: that says those pictures are probably coming from surrounding houses.
- 21:05Speaker 1: Because of the angle in which they were shot, it's
- 21:09Speaker 1: clearly a private investigator. My gut said it's one of
- 21:12Speaker 1: their spouses. It's just I don't know. I mean, I
- 21:17Speaker 1: just don't care that much. I mean, I really don't.
- 21:19Speaker 1: I'm not that bothered, Like I'm not a The o
- 21:22Speaker 1: other thing, the one angle is journalism. Like I'm not
- 21:24Speaker 1: a journalist. I don't care how my journalists operate. Just
- 21:28Speaker 1: feed me the information. So I got stuff to talk about.
- 21:30Speaker 1: I guess that's the business I'm in. Like I'm not
- 21:32Speaker 1: some moral high horse guy. I know what I'm okay
- 21:37Speaker 1: and not okay, and at the way my relationship is,
- 21:39Speaker 1: and that's all I kind of worry about. But not
- 21:41Speaker 1: a great look. I guess if you're in a monogamous relationship,
- 21:45Speaker 1: could be a relationship ender. But who knows, maybe they
- 21:49Speaker 1: were in open relationships. I got no fucking clue. But
- 21:54Speaker 1: everyone like, you're not gonna find me tweeting about it
- 21:57Speaker 1: and crushing them because I just I hate feel like
- 22:02Speaker 1: I'm part of the crowd when it comes to that
- 22:04Speaker 1: type stuff, because I think that's such low hanging fruit
- 22:06Speaker 1: now and we just saw it a couple of weeks
- 22:08Speaker 1: ago with Tiger, we're seeing it again with this, and yeah,
- 22:12Speaker 1: I mean it probably I heard someone describe it on
- 22:17Speaker 1: the internet that, you know, for her, because it's not
- 22:20Speaker 1: like he's tweeting. It probably feels like she's, you know,
- 22:24Speaker 1: every time she looks like she's drowning because everyone, and
- 22:27Speaker 1: I mean everyone is just obliterating her, making fun of her. Well,
- 22:32Speaker 1: they just think it's funny because they don't actually care, right,
- 22:36Speaker 1: No one actually cares. No one really gives a shit, right,
- 22:41Speaker 1: we just go about it our day. But this is
- 22:44Speaker 1: gonna have no impact on Mike Vrabel. I mean literally none.
- 22:48Speaker 1: And by all accounts, the athletics said they don't care either.
- 22:51Speaker 1: Now can she keep breaking stories? Will she have the
- 22:53Speaker 1: same access time? Will tell? Right? I don't know. It's
- 22:58Speaker 1: not the worally business I'm in. But one time when
- 23:02Speaker 1: we first started way different, I would say. Example is
- 23:08Speaker 1: when we me and guy who did we did a
- 23:11Speaker 1: local radio show in the Bay and then we transitioned
- 23:15Speaker 1: to do that show as a podcast. You know, first
- 23:19Speaker 1: we just started zero, right, We just started a podcast,
- 23:23Speaker 1: but we didn't have any ads. If you don't have
- 23:25Speaker 1: any ads, just doing a podcast for free, and we're like,
- 23:28Speaker 1: what are we gonna do? And we started building it up,
- 23:30Speaker 1: building it up, And then finally when the tray lance
- 23:33Speaker 1: trade happened for the Niners, our business like tripled. We
- 23:37Speaker 1: went from doing pretty good to like six figures each
- 23:41Speaker 1: crushing getting a bunch of ads. We're getting huge downloads, views,
- 23:45Speaker 1: and business was going pretty good. One of our sponsors
- 23:49Speaker 1: was a wine sponsor. It wasn't even just a wine sponsor.
- 23:53Speaker 1: It was like this company where you could order wine
- 23:56Speaker 1: and get it delivered your house, and it was like
- 23:57Speaker 1: a monthly subscription. They gave us a lot of money.
- 24:01Speaker 1: We sent wine to the forty nine ers, to John Lynch,
- 24:05Speaker 1: to Kyle Shanahan, to Perrague, to Adam Peters, and I
- 24:10Speaker 1: remember John Lynch like, whenever I got there, sent me
- 24:12Speaker 1: a text like, bro, you did not have to do.
- 24:14Speaker 1: I didn't even know him that well, and it was
- 24:17Speaker 1: just that's why wouldn't I. I'm not a journalist. They
- 24:22Speaker 1: were great for my business. I'm a businessman, right, so
- 24:25Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Doesn't involve
- 24:28Speaker 1: sexual favors from me, But I just I feel very
- 24:33Speaker 1: uncomfortable in this day and age about certain stories of
- 24:37Speaker 1: just the pileon. And it's one thing when everyone's talking
- 24:40Speaker 1: about a controversial play or controversial firing or whatever, but
- 24:45Speaker 1: when these include people like Tiger's like literally his life
- 24:49Speaker 1: right or her like her career. I don't know, And yeah,
- 24:52Speaker 1: I'm a little biased. I met her at She's cool
- 24:54Speaker 1: to me, so like i'd even consider a friend. I
- 24:57Speaker 1: don't know her that well, but it's like everyone's shitting
- 24:59Speaker 1: on her. No one has any clue not to we
- 25:02Speaker 1: have clue. It's clear what happened, but yeah, I'm not disputing, Like,
- 25:06Speaker 1: of course they were doing what everyone thinks they were doing.
- 25:08Speaker 1: Like you don't go to that resort to like, uh
- 25:10Speaker 1: watch the game and have some uh have some hummus.
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- 27:05Speaker 1: New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia. Question for the mailbag, Jed
- 27:15Speaker 1: York said recently he didn't know Kirk was on the roster,
- 27:18Speaker 1: and then he was hopeful Brandon I Yuke would be
- 27:22Speaker 1: on the team again, is it concerning? He seems so
- 27:25Speaker 1: disconnected with the team. I know you're well connected to me.
- 27:28Speaker 1: The Kirk thing. I don't need my owner dictating personnel.
- 27:33Speaker 1: My buddy Mark, who lives in Arizona, who I'm playing
- 27:37Speaker 1: in this golf tournament with in the middle of May,
- 27:41Speaker 1: text me. We've been texting on and off over the
- 27:43Speaker 1: last couple of days, and he shot me. He text like,
- 27:45Speaker 1: I played with Christian Kirk yesterday. Mark's kids play college football.
- 27:51Speaker 1: He played college football, he loves football, and was like,
- 27:55Speaker 1: I didn't even know Christian Kirk was on the forty
- 27:56Speaker 1: nine ers. So some of the He's moves in free
- 28:01Speaker 1: agency that happened a little later. Not everyone's dialed in
- 28:06Speaker 1: and Jed York is not living and dying with every transaction.
- 28:10Speaker 1: Do you think Jed York knows Mike Evans is on
- 28:12Speaker 1: the team. Yes. Do you think Jed York knows they
- 28:16Speaker 1: re signed Dray green Law? Yes? Do you think he
- 28:19Speaker 1: knows they signed a guy? My get I haven't even
- 28:22Speaker 1: looked at his contract. I bet Christian Kirk's contract guaranteed
- 28:25Speaker 1: money is pretty small. Let's pull up Christian Kirk's contract,
- 28:35Speaker 1: so they didn't give him nothing. They gave him a
- 28:37Speaker 1: signing bonus under two million dollars. Jed York runs a
- 28:41Speaker 1: franchise that his family owns that's probably valued at twelve
- 28:45Speaker 1: billion dollars, So it's crazy to say, but chance he's
- 28:50Speaker 1: not even paying attention to a couple of million dollars,
- 28:52Speaker 1: which he's clearly not. I don't think it's that weird.
- 28:55Speaker 1: I think the best owners they have to sign off
- 28:58Speaker 1: on bigger amounts of money, right, but under five million
- 29:03Speaker 1: dollar signings a couple of weeks after free agency starts,
- 29:07Speaker 1: who knows. Maybe he was in a vacation, Maybe he's
- 29:10Speaker 1: not sitting in the free agency room with his GM.
- 29:12Speaker 1: I don't want my owner doing that, So I would
- 29:15Speaker 1: imagine a lot of owners, some of these second and
- 29:19Speaker 1: third wave free agent signings, don't have that much knowledge.
- 29:23Speaker 1: So I don't think it bothers me. Now, the Brandon
- 29:25Speaker 1: I you thing I was listening to my guy Tim Kawakami.
- 29:29Speaker 1: That was somewhat of a weird comment. I think he's
- 29:32Speaker 1: trying to help his guys out, Like Jed, You're not
- 29:34Speaker 1: gonna help them get more leverage in this situation. You're
- 29:38Speaker 1: not gonna help them figure out how to like facilitate
- 29:43Speaker 1: a trade here. So I don't know, it was kind
- 29:48Speaker 1: of an unneeded comment. I think the comment was kind
- 29:50Speaker 1: of stupid, to be honest with I would not have
- 29:52Speaker 1: said that. But I also think Jed's not dictating what
- 29:56Speaker 1: they do or don't do. I also think he gave
- 29:58Speaker 1: him a lot of money, right, I mean, John Lynch
- 30:01Speaker 1: Kyle did, but ultimately Jed signs the checks and they
- 30:05Speaker 1: signed him to like a seventy five million dollar guarantee.
- 30:08Speaker 1: Now some of that's up in the air because he's
- 30:09Speaker 1: given some back, but he's still gonna earn in a
- 30:12Speaker 1: couple of year period, like fifty million dollars. So Jed
- 30:15Speaker 1: knows that, and that probably complicates the situation a little bit,
- 30:21Speaker 1: but it doesn't. Again, kind of trivial stupid shit. I
- 30:25Speaker 1: think question for the bag, with the diversification of all
- 30:28Speaker 1: these games, the Master's, NFL, especially NBA being on so
- 30:31Speaker 1: many different streaming platforms, do you think it'll turn into
- 30:35Speaker 1: a negative in a long term. Obviously, short term people
- 30:39Speaker 1: are just gonna pay the extra money. But with my
- 30:41Speaker 1: Sunday ticket, the price keeps going up and being fewer
- 30:45Speaker 1: games on the package on Sunday each year. It makes
- 30:48Speaker 1: it hard for me to see how this sustainable model.
- 30:51Speaker 1: What do you think is the reasoning? And is there
- 30:53Speaker 1: a bubble on these streaming services? It's a good question.
- 30:58Speaker 1: One thing with the streaming services like Amazon Prime, they
- 31:02Speaker 1: have the first couple rounds of the Masters in the morning.
- 31:04Speaker 1: Well what else does Amazon Prime av Thursday night football?
- 31:07Speaker 1: What else does Amazon Prime av? Baseball? And basketball? So
- 31:10Speaker 1: they have a bunch of content, right Peacock, they have
- 31:14Speaker 1: all these games, football, basketball, golf majors. Same thing. You know,
- 31:20Speaker 1: Netflix is getting in the business, so I think you're
- 31:23Speaker 1: getting a lot if you have these streaming platforms. What
- 31:27Speaker 1: makes it complicated is for those of us, especially of
- 31:29Speaker 1: an older generation, we are used to everything being on CBS, Fox,
- 31:34Speaker 1: ABC and NBC. The channels that we just don't have
- 31:36Speaker 1: to pay for. Those days are over right, and we're
- 31:39Speaker 1: never coming back, and I think we're just transitioning. I
- 31:43Speaker 1: don't have the answer, but in ten years it's much
- 31:47Speaker 1: more likely that everything is kind of in some form
- 31:49Speaker 1: or fashion on the streaming platforms, and that's where I
- 31:53Speaker 1: think we end up. Does it make it a little
- 31:55Speaker 1: complicated yet now, Yeah, but it is what it is.
- 32:00Speaker 1: It's not gonna change. And why have these leagues gravitated
- 32:04Speaker 1: to Amazon? Let's say they have all the money, why
- 32:08Speaker 1: do they sell stuff to Netflix? They have all the money,
- 32:11Speaker 1: why am on Netflix? They're a lucrative business that was
- 32:14Speaker 1: interested in the podcast space. This isn't that complicated of
- 32:19Speaker 1: a situation from their standpoint. Now your question is for
- 32:22Speaker 1: us the consumer. Yeah, it's complicated a little bit. There's
- 32:26Speaker 1: no disputing it. But it's not changing. So you either
- 32:30Speaker 1: have to choose are you gonna pay for it or
- 32:31Speaker 1: are you not. I'm also a bad person to ask
- 32:34Speaker 1: on this because I'm buying all this stuff no matter what.
- 32:39Speaker 1: When it comes to like, I buy ESPN Plus, right,
- 32:43Speaker 1: some of you probably don't. Well, some of you do
- 32:45Speaker 1: because they have UFC or they've had UFC forever. I
- 32:48Speaker 1: buy for golf because I like watching the golf tournaments
- 32:51Speaker 1: Thursday through Sunday, you know, Saturday Sunday. For ESPN Plus,
- 32:55Speaker 1: they have every PGA tournament before CBS or NBC earns
- 33:00Speaker 1: it on at you know, noon Pacific standard time. I
- 33:04Speaker 1: was just watching a conversation on ESPN about tanking. Got Ever,
- 33:08Speaker 1: we've been talking about tanking a lot too on this week.
- 33:11Speaker 1: It's it's clearly a polarizing topic. I don't know if
- 33:14Speaker 1: this would work in the NBA, but to prevent tanking
- 33:16Speaker 1: in the NFL, I was thinking, what Super Bowl winner
- 33:19Speaker 1: gets the first overall pick. That way, there is more
- 33:21Speaker 1: incentive for being the best team in major consequences for
- 33:24Speaker 1: being the worst. Super Bowl champ might end up trading
- 33:27Speaker 1: out of the spot, but at least it won't automatically
- 33:29Speaker 1: go to a team that has bad for the last
- 33:32Speaker 1: two months. What if Seattle had the number one overall
- 33:35Speaker 1: pick right now? Is there any chance that they would
- 33:39Speaker 1: take Mendoza? He fits the offense and in a year
- 33:44Speaker 1: you could just transition to a guy making ten million
- 33:47Speaker 1: dollars a year instead of thirty Or would they just
- 33:50Speaker 1: take Jeremiah Love and be like, we're gonna win the
- 33:54Speaker 1: Super Bowl for the next couple of years. It'd be
- 33:56Speaker 1: fascinating you would. Here's the thing that there's a major
- 34:00Speaker 1: difference in the NBA. I don't know if you saw,
- 34:04Speaker 1: I wouldn't blame you. Who's watching Warriors kinks? But the
- 34:08Speaker 1: Kings fouled Steph Curry's brother with a couple of minutes
- 34:12Speaker 1: to go for literally no reason, just because they wanted
- 34:15Speaker 1: him to shoo. They wanted to lose the Jazz. All
- 34:18Speaker 1: these teams are trying to lose. You do realize. Up
- 34:23Speaker 1: until the last couple of weeks, the Raiders were trying
- 34:26Speaker 1: to win every game, The Jets tried to win every game.
- 34:32Speaker 1: The Cardinals and Jonathan Gannon were not trying to lose.
- 34:37Speaker 1: Part of sports, some teams are just going to suck, right,
- 34:45Speaker 1: They're trying to win. That's the thing with football. None
- 34:48Speaker 1: of these teams. Again, the Max Crosby situation, he uh,
- 34:54Speaker 1: he didn't like it, but I don't blame him at
- 34:57Speaker 1: that point. I got no problem trying to lose the
- 35:00Speaker 1: last game of the season, maybe even the last two
- 35:02Speaker 1: games of season. But no one in the NFL is
- 35:04Speaker 1: actively trying to lose, like December first, and that's whatever,
- 35:09Speaker 1: three and a half months into the season. So I
- 35:13Speaker 1: don't think the NFL has an issue with it. I
- 35:15Speaker 1: really don't. The NBA has kind of clouded the conversation,
- 35:19Speaker 1: but I truly believe that everyone in the NFL is
- 35:23Speaker 1: trying to win the overwhelming majority of the games. Quick
- 35:28Speaker 1: college football eligibility question following up on your Dante more
- 35:33Speaker 1: take if when schools move away from the NCAA, why
- 35:37Speaker 1: would they keep eligibility limits at all. It seems like
- 35:40Speaker 1: programs would want to retain proven talent. More broadly, as
- 35:45Speaker 1: budgets rise, could this start to change incentives for a
- 35:48Speaker 1: certain tier of players, not the elite guy, but the
- 35:50Speaker 1: next group. We're staying in college as a known commodity
- 35:54Speaker 1: is more attractive than entering the NFL. Could that meaningfully
- 35:59Speaker 1: reshape how town flows in the league, Well, then the
- 36:02Speaker 1: NFL would have a problem. I talked to him buddy recently.
- 36:05Speaker 1: I said, why do you think this draft sucks? And
- 36:07Speaker 1: he says, one major reason is a ton of underclassmen
- 36:12Speaker 1: that would have come out, and several would have ended
- 36:15Speaker 1: up being in the first round, and a ton of
- 36:17Speaker 1: guys would have gone in the second and third round. Obviously,
- 36:21Speaker 1: Dante Moore is the best example of like a guy
- 36:23Speaker 1: going back that historically would have come out. He would
- 36:25Speaker 1: have been the number two pick. But there are a
- 36:28Speaker 1: lot of guards and linebackers and wide receivers that just
- 36:32Speaker 1: would have been like the forty eighth pick, or the
- 36:35Speaker 1: thirty third pick or the seventy fifth pick. Those guys
- 36:39Speaker 1: now go back to school. I haven't thought about it
- 36:42Speaker 1: with the question you posed, but if you just uh
- 36:49Speaker 1: could never leave Ohio State and just make millions and
- 36:53Speaker 1: just guarantee your career, the NFL would then have a
- 36:55Speaker 1: problem on their hands and would have to work with
- 36:58Speaker 1: the governing bodies of whatever for the SEC and the
- 37:01Speaker 1: Big Ten super league they were running. So they're not
- 37:05Speaker 1: quite there, but you pose a pretty good question because
- 37:09Speaker 1: the NFL cannot let that happen, And I'm with you,
- 37:12Speaker 1: why wouldn't they just create their own rules. Part of
- 37:15Speaker 1: the eligibility is you don't stay in college unless you're
- 37:18Speaker 1: Chris Farley and black Sheep for eight years. Some of us,
- 37:22Speaker 1: you know, five and a half, but most of us.
- 37:25Speaker 1: I had a college roommate that was done in like
- 37:27Speaker 1: three and a half. So that would be a problem
- 37:31Speaker 1: because then if they separate from the NCAA and Ohio
- 37:35Speaker 1: State just has a football program and you can stay
- 37:38Speaker 1: as long as you want, it is no longer associated
- 37:41Speaker 1: with the school. In terms of going to class. Now,
- 37:44Speaker 1: you could argue are people going to class now? Because
- 37:47Speaker 1: historically you could argue were they really go into class?
- 37:50Speaker 1: Some of these schools now with online classes. No one's
- 37:53Speaker 1: doing shit at some of these schools, So definitely an
- 37:57Speaker 1: interesting question and would be a major problem, and they
- 38:01Speaker 1: would almost have to go to the bargaining table with
- 38:03Speaker 1: those schools to make sure that they have some limits
- 38:05Speaker 1: of you get five years to play or something, which,
- 38:10Speaker 1: like you said, why would Ohio State or Oregon or
- 38:13Speaker 1: Michigan or Alabama or Georgia agree to that? I don't know,
- 38:16Speaker 1: could get weird, could get weird. Good point with how
- 38:20Speaker 1: quarterback contracts are exploding. Do you think the NFL is
- 38:24Speaker 1: heading toward a model where good but not elite quarterbacks
- 38:28Speaker 1: actually become the hardest asset to build around. It feels
- 38:32Speaker 1: like once you pay that middle tier guy, your margin
- 38:35Speaker 1: for error everywhere disappears. Also, how much do you think
- 38:38Speaker 1: scheme vers quarterback talent really matters? We're seeing more plug
- 38:42Speaker 1: and play success with certain systems. Do you think a
- 38:45Speaker 1: top tier play caller can elevate an average quarterback into
- 38:49Speaker 1: contender or does that ceiling always show up in January one? More?
- 38:54Speaker 1: A lot of questions here, we'll just stick with the
- 38:57Speaker 1: first two. I think you get a mad your problem
- 39:00Speaker 1: and I don't never understand this. I would not extend
- 39:04Speaker 1: a guy to a huge money contract if he's not
- 39:07Speaker 1: an elite player. When they gave two of that money,
- 39:11Speaker 1: it was insane. Honestly, I wasn't that comfortable with Trevor
- 39:14Speaker 1: Lawrence's contract. I think some of these teams get way
- 39:18Speaker 1: too aggressive. Right now, you could argue Dak Prescott was overpaid,
- 39:23Speaker 1: and he's still technically overpaid, but he's become a really
- 39:26Speaker 1: good top seven eight quarterback. So it's not an easy situation.
- 39:33Speaker 1: But the Kyler Murray to of situations I never got.
- 39:37Speaker 1: It never made sense to me. You can't pay great
- 39:41Speaker 1: money for good players. In a perfect world, you get
- 39:44Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield or Sam Darnold, who are Pro Bowl fringe
- 39:48Speaker 1: Pro Bowl guys, you know, not Baker last year, but
- 39:50Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and you're paying them thirty
- 39:53Speaker 1: percent less than the elite guys. This can't become the
- 39:57Speaker 1: NBA where Luka gets the same MAX as a guy
- 40:02Speaker 1: who's like a fringe All Star, because that's what a
- 40:04Speaker 1: MAX guy at eight years in gets, And that's kind
- 40:08Speaker 1: of what the NFL became with quarterbacks, and it kind
- 40:11Speaker 1: of became that way with someone. All wide receivers are
- 40:13Speaker 1: not equal, right, Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase are not
- 40:17Speaker 1: the same as Brandon Ayuk and the forty dollars gave
- 40:20Speaker 1: Brandon I eight thirty million dollars a year is like,
- 40:21Speaker 1: this is insane. So I think it's actually on the
- 40:24Speaker 1: specific GM and coach to know this is not worth
- 40:27Speaker 1: signing this contract. But you're in this tough position. Are
- 40:30Speaker 1: we just gonna let him walk? Good organizations ideally don't
- 40:34Speaker 1: want to franchise players because you have to pay him
- 40:39Speaker 1: all that money. Where Jerry Jones is franchise tag George Pickens.
- 40:43Speaker 1: But I would rather pay George Pickens one year twenty
- 40:46Speaker 1: seven million dollars than give him three years twenty seven
- 40:49Speaker 1: million dollars every year and guarantee basically the whole contract.
- 40:53Speaker 1: So I think it's very situation based. Like Sam Darnold,
- 40:56Speaker 1: no issue paying him thirty million dollars a year. Would
- 40:59Speaker 1: I want to pay Kyler Murray or two of thirty
- 41:01Speaker 1: million dollars a year? I would not. Do I want
- 41:03Speaker 1: to pay Daniel Jones forty million dollars a year, I
- 41:06Speaker 1: do not. It's just a it's a very individual base situation.
- 41:13Speaker 1: Tell me the player, and I'll tell you what I
- 41:15Speaker 1: would want to do, but every player is so different.
- 41:18Speaker 1: There are some guys that you know, JSN got one
- 41:21Speaker 1: hundred and twenty million dollars. Is JSN just every year
- 41:24Speaker 1: gonna have eighteen hundred yards. Probably not. You got to
- 41:27Speaker 1: overpay a little bit because of what just happened to
- 41:30Speaker 1: your team last year. Of the success his individual success,
- 41:33Speaker 1: for sure, But look at Pooka started acting weird. They're like, bro,
- 41:37Speaker 1: we're not giving you a contract. We're just not doing it.
- 41:40Speaker 1: It's like, well, you get a franchise that will feel
- 41:42Speaker 1: we'll deal with next year when next year comes, but
- 41:44Speaker 1: we're not copy and pasting this contract right now. It's
- 41:46Speaker 1: not happening, which I appreciate the rams. And if in
- 41:49Speaker 1: a couple of weeks they draft a wide receiver at thirteen,
- 41:52Speaker 1: that even adds more pressure to Pooka. It's like, if
- 41:54Speaker 1: you if you don't figure this out, this might be
- 41:56Speaker 1: your replacement. He can either be your running mate or
- 41:58Speaker 1: your replacement. I think good NFL teams kind of drive
- 42:04Speaker 1: a hard bargain. It's like Judge Snider's got to replace
- 42:08Speaker 1: retain Kenneth Walker. No, he doesn't, and he didn't. He
- 42:11Speaker 1: let him walk first time messenger. Who would you rather
- 42:13Speaker 1: start next season with if you're a head coach, Herbert
- 42:17Speaker 1: Hurts or Doney. There's pros and Console three well right
- 42:21Speaker 1: now Hurts the lot going on, so he would not
- 42:26Speaker 1: be the guy Donald just won a Super Bowl. Herbert
- 42:30Speaker 1: has been atrocious in the playoffs now, he has never
- 42:34Speaker 1: played on a team as good as Seattle's team, but
- 42:37Speaker 1: there is no disputing in his playoff games it has
- 42:40Speaker 1: not gone well. But if I was a coach, I
- 42:44Speaker 1: would take Herbert again. Money factors in. Herbert makes a
- 42:48Speaker 1: lot more money than Sam Donald, though this year I
- 42:52Speaker 1: think they're paying in actual cash, like twenty five million dollars.
- 42:55Speaker 1: Herbert from a financial standpoint of what you have to
- 42:58Speaker 1: pay him as a team is now that much cash
- 43:01Speaker 1: this year. But I would take Herbert now. If you
- 43:03Speaker 1: wanted to push back, you're like, he shits the bet
- 43:05Speaker 1: in the playoffs and who knows, maybe just becomes the
- 43:07Speaker 1: worst playoff quarterback we've ever seen. But he's a really
- 43:11Speaker 1: good player. I know someone voted him their MVP. I
- 43:14Speaker 1: would not have done that, but I think Herbert's really
- 43:17Speaker 1: good and I'm not If you want to sell stock
- 43:20Speaker 1: on him, I will buy some I think eventually he
- 43:23Speaker 1: has a good playoff game. So this before big Peyton
- 43:27Speaker 1: Manning fan, when I was young early on, it was
- 43:30Speaker 1: pretty ugly come January, and then it flipped. And I'm
- 43:33Speaker 1: not saying Herbert is Peyton Manning, but I think he's
- 43:36Speaker 1: pretty fucking good and he's just got to exercise those demons. Now.
- 43:40Speaker 1: The longer it goes, he becomes this elephant in the room.
- 43:44Speaker 1: You know, no one cares about touchdown passes in a
- 43:47Speaker 1: random October game against Denver the Chiefs anymore. Right, we
- 43:50Speaker 1: all know you're good. You're gonna go to Pro Bowls,
- 43:52Speaker 1: probably eventually win a division with Harball. He just there's
- 43:56Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of pressure on him in the playoffs.
- 43:58Speaker 1: But I would take next year if I in all
- 44:02Speaker 1: things being equal money wise, I would take justin Herbert.
- 44:08Speaker 1: Can I push back on the Jason lightlove big Bucks fan.
- 44:13Speaker 1: Our second half of the season last year, starting six
- 44:16Speaker 1: and two was a disaster. The run game with Bucky
- 44:20Speaker 1: and White was not the same. Abuka went from looking
- 44:23Speaker 1: like the steal of the draft to losing momentum and
- 44:25Speaker 1: finishing week the defenders under a defensive head coach with
- 44:29Speaker 1: a heavy draft pick was pitiful. I don't think we
- 44:31Speaker 1: have drafted a pro bowler since twenty one. We haven't
- 44:34Speaker 1: signed to anyone. We let two offensive coordinators go who
- 44:37Speaker 1: clearly were better head coaches than our Guy Evans is
- 44:41Speaker 1: now gone, and I don't think he wanted to leave Tampa,
- 44:43Speaker 1: but he was fed up with Todd. I think this
- 44:45Speaker 1: might be a season where the team performs or wear
- 44:47Speaker 1: it down. Interested in hearing your take over the course
- 44:52Speaker 1: of like five or six years, from building up a
- 44:57Speaker 1: couple of years before Brady and then those three or
- 44:59Speaker 1: four years would bring I think the last couple of years,
- 45:02Speaker 1: no team had more drafted players on their team than
- 45:05Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. I think last year was like forty four
- 45:08Speaker 1: forty three of the fifty three man roster where guys
- 45:11Speaker 1: Jason Light drafted, and they had been winning the division
- 45:15Speaker 1: and they went from Tom Brady and transitioned with Baker
- 45:18Speaker 1: Mayfield to go to the playoffs back to back years.
- 45:21Speaker 1: Last year was a disaster. I put that more on
- 45:23Speaker 1: Todd and clearly the offensive coordinator who got fired. But
- 45:27Speaker 1: this is a massive year to me for Baker Mayfield,
- 45:30Speaker 1: like Jason Light, is not going anywhere if this year
- 45:33Speaker 1: doesn't go well, Todd Bowles will get fired, Jason Light
- 45:35Speaker 1: will keep his job. Jason Light has proven to be
- 45:38Speaker 1: a pretty good drafter, and he was the salesman to
- 45:42Speaker 1: land Tom and then obviously the transition to Baker Mayfield,
- 45:45Speaker 1: like you get credit for that. But they do have
- 45:48Speaker 1: a lot of Pro bowlers on the roster right because
- 45:52Speaker 1: so we haven't drafted many Pro bowlers. Hard to make
- 45:54Speaker 1: the roster when you got Wurfs and Vita Baya and
- 45:56Speaker 1: all these guys already starting. I wanted to say, Witherspoon,
- 46:01Speaker 1: It's not Witherspoon. It's again, my brain's a little outside
- 46:05Speaker 1: of football season. You know your guys good safety whose
- 46:08Speaker 1: dad played the NFL. But I'm a believer in Jason
- 46:13Speaker 1: Why I don't know what to tell you now. That
- 46:15Speaker 1: being said, I like New Orleans to win the division
- 46:17Speaker 1: this year, and my guess would be he's a nice guy.
- 46:21Speaker 1: I would guess that Tampa as a new coach in
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- 47:46Speaker 1: you came up through the scouting side with us. Why
- 47:48Speaker 1: doesn't Dak get the same quote unquote stacked roster criticism
- 47:52Speaker 1: Jalen gets feels like they walked into similar situations, but
- 47:55Speaker 1: Jalen has had more success. I get that Howie and
- 47:58Speaker 1: Jerry are viewed different, but still the narratives don't line up. Also,
- 48:03Speaker 1: I knowle middleman is trending tagline. Just what about paying
- 48:07Speaker 1: hommits the little guy with Jack coffs just kidding? You
- 48:12Speaker 1: know your listener bas is full of degenerous I feel you, Yeah,
- 48:15Speaker 1: we can't. We can't do that to the little guy. Uh.
- 48:20Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember for the first the Jason
- 48:25Speaker 1: Garrett era and then definitely the Mike McCarthy era. Dak
- 48:29Speaker 1: Prescott has got shit on. Dak Prescott has taken a
- 48:34Speaker 1: lot of heat over the years. To think that he
- 48:37Speaker 1: has got a free pass would be not a proper
- 48:41Speaker 1: representation of the conversation around the Dallas Cowboy quarterback. Now,
- 48:47Speaker 1: last year he did not have a stack roster. He
- 48:49Speaker 1: did though in the mcarthy era, and he did not
- 48:53Speaker 1: play well. It was a disaster in the playoffs, removing
- 48:57Speaker 1: the Tampa game when they were Tampa's eight and nine
- 48:59Speaker 1: dat five touchdowns in the Monday night playoff wild Card weekend.
- 49:04Speaker 1: But Dak has got destroyed right, and Dak's got crushed
- 49:07Speaker 1: for being this overpaid quarterback. I think Dak's got a
- 49:10Speaker 1: lot of heat, you know, I really do. Sometimes I
- 49:14Speaker 1: think if I were those guys and you're just getting
- 49:17Speaker 1: your shit on, You're like, I'm making fifty sixty million dollars,
- 49:21Speaker 1: I'm the starting quarterback. I wonder if we think it's
- 49:24Speaker 1: a bigger deal than those guys think. If you're Jalen
- 49:27Speaker 1: Hurts that article, It's like, Okay, what does that mean?
- 49:30Speaker 1: I'm a starting quarterback. I see my direct deposits every
- 49:34Speaker 1: week during the year. I don't know exactly know how
- 49:37Speaker 1: the pay periods work in the off season, but definitely
- 49:39Speaker 1: during football season. Do these guys care that much about
- 49:43Speaker 1: the criticism, because eventually you would get like this kind
- 49:47Speaker 1: of hard shell where you just are somewhat especially if
- 49:50Speaker 1: you're a little older, able to kind of I don't
- 49:54Speaker 1: want to say quiet all the outside noise, but just
- 49:57Speaker 1: kind of be numb to it. But Daks take a
- 50:00Speaker 1: lot of heat over the years, a lot, and the
- 50:04Speaker 1: Eagles the last couple of years have been a way
- 50:06Speaker 1: better roster than I mean, Jalen won the Super Bowl
- 50:09Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. They have two thousand yard Russia.
- 50:16Speaker 1: I got a fugazi for you. Our local, our local
- 50:20Speaker 1: neighborhood bar that we watch every maybe major sporting event
- 50:24Speaker 1: closed during Easter Monday. I'm all for employers employees getting
- 50:30Speaker 1: Easter off, but seemed like a head scratcher for them
- 50:33Speaker 1: to be closed for the Big Game. Safe to say,
- 50:35Speaker 1: the vibes at a depressed, half empty Buffalo wild Wings
- 50:40Speaker 1: do not hit the same. Yeah, I think that's tough
- 50:46Speaker 1: if you're in the sports bar business. Is it part
- 50:50Speaker 1: of being open? You know, Monday's not a holiday, right.
- 50:54Speaker 1: I struggle with holidays because the world I'm in, you know,
- 50:58Speaker 1: I work on a lot of holidays. I mean clearly
- 51:00Speaker 1: Chris miss Thanksgiving. Some are pretty obvious. But each Sunday
- 51:05Speaker 1: do a lot of people get Monday off. I'm probably
- 51:08Speaker 1: the wrong person to ask, you know, I worked a
- 51:10Speaker 1: job that's not even my job to on this Monday,
- 51:16Speaker 1: so I I didn't know that people were closed on
- 51:20Speaker 1: that day. But I'm the wrong guy to ask this
- 51:25Speaker 1: from Joseph Great, listen while I'm on the road working
- 51:28Speaker 1: on the wind turbines around the states, Big Buffalo Bills
- 51:31Speaker 1: fan and was wondering what your take about the quote
- 51:35Speaker 1: OJ Simpson name being placed on the new stadium because
- 51:40Speaker 1: the fans still wear his jersey at the games. Should
- 51:43Speaker 1: they leave it off? I haven't seen this. They're putting
- 51:46Speaker 1: OJ Simpson like on the Ring of Honor on the
- 51:48Speaker 1: new stadium. He wasn't quitted. Glob doesn't fit, you gotta quit.
- 51:56Speaker 1: My first reaction would probably to leave it off. Are
- 52:04Speaker 1: there a lot of OJ Simpson jerseys at Bills games.
- 52:08Speaker 1: I'm not a big jersey guy. It would take some
- 52:11Speaker 1: confidence to just show up to a game in an
- 52:15Speaker 1: OJ Simpson jersey. Now granted in twenty twenty six, there's
- 52:21Speaker 1: generations of people that don't quite understand. I think the
- 52:26Speaker 1: gravity to that situation right when I was nineteen ninety four,
- 52:32Speaker 1: I think I was in fifth or sixth grade. My
- 52:34Speaker 1: teacher had it on the radio. I think a lot
- 52:36Speaker 1: of people have that experience. Either people brought TVs in.
- 52:39Speaker 1: We were listening on the radio. My fifth or sixth
- 52:43Speaker 1: grade teacher, I forget exactly what great I was in
- 52:46Speaker 1: was a huge, huge sports fan. Her son, who was
- 52:49Speaker 1: a year younger than me, was a Division one college
- 52:51Speaker 1: baseball player. She loved sports. She was cool, she was tough.
- 52:54Speaker 1: I mean MS Parker. He used to fucking scream in
- 52:58Speaker 1: my ass. I remember one time in a parent teacher conference.
- 53:02Speaker 1: You know, I grew up in a different generation than
- 53:04Speaker 1: some of you younger cats. When he got out of line,
- 53:07Speaker 1: you know, you got the occasional backhand. And one time
- 53:11Speaker 1: I like popped off in a parent teacher conference. My
- 53:14Speaker 1: dad came to it, and which was never awesome. And
- 53:19Speaker 1: I remember saying something, I'm like, Dad, that's she's lying.
- 53:21Speaker 1: That ain't true. And I just remember I almost he
- 53:25Speaker 1: held it together, but I thought I was about to
- 53:27Speaker 1: fly across the room. She like kind of looked at
- 53:30Speaker 1: me side eyed. But my day would probably be leebo J.
- 53:35Speaker 1: Simpson off. But I could hear the arguments from the
- 53:37Speaker 1: other side again acquitted. I think everyone assumes he butchered her,
- 53:42Speaker 1: and Ron Goldman obviously Ron Goldman's family still does rightfully,
- 53:47Speaker 1: so I'd probably believe the same if I was them.
- 53:50Speaker 1: Most people just say OJ's a murderer. So you want
- 53:54Speaker 1: a person that's a murderer that played in the seventies,
- 53:59Speaker 1: And again, do people really wear the jerseys You've been
- 54:03Speaker 1: questioning on the hurt. If the opportunity presented itself, would
- 54:06Speaker 1: you make being a full time role on the show.
- 54:09Speaker 1: This is my gig, and I'm very very lucky that
- 54:12Speaker 1: this is my baby, and this is what I've built
- 54:16Speaker 1: a business around through these guys and partnered with these guys,
- 54:19Speaker 1: and Colin has been the best business partner I could
- 54:22Speaker 1: ever ask for from just a standpoint of letting me
- 54:26Speaker 1: do what I no one tells me what to do. Financially,
- 54:30Speaker 1: it's been, I mean, more rewarding than I ever could
- 54:34Speaker 1: have dreamed of when I got into the business. But
- 54:37Speaker 1: I don't want to do anything else, like this is
- 54:41Speaker 1: where I'm at my best, and like this is this
- 54:45Speaker 1: is a grind, And I know a lot of people
- 54:48Speaker 1: do multiple things, like no one podcasts much as me,
- 54:52Speaker 1: Because as my gig and that's what I love to do.
- 54:54Speaker 1: I would never give that up. The only way I
- 54:56Speaker 1: would do anything would be doing more of this. That
- 55:00Speaker 1: is what I aspire to do more of. And I
- 55:04Speaker 1: would never move anywhere because I don't have to. I've
- 55:08Speaker 1: been lucky enough now. You never say never things. You know,
- 55:12Speaker 1: this podcast didn't exist like twenty years ago, so you
- 55:15Speaker 1: got to be ready to change. But I've been very fortunate.
- 55:20Speaker 1: I don't not only plan on ever leaving Arizona, just
- 55:25Speaker 1: keep expanding the business there. So I would say I
- 55:28Speaker 1: enjoy doing this. It's it kind of gets the juices flowing,
- 55:32Speaker 1: mixing it up a little bit, and just I get
- 55:35Speaker 1: fired up watching the way that they operate. His crew
- 55:38Speaker 1: a bunch of guys. And someone asked me, I was
- 55:41Speaker 1: actually looking for the DM that how this works. Is
- 55:44Speaker 1: this one of those where you know, Collin just hits
- 55:47Speaker 1: me up and I just show up, or this is
- 55:50Speaker 1: through Fox or this when I go with him. It
- 55:52Speaker 1: has nothing to do with three and out. This is
- 55:55Speaker 1: all through Fox. So they got a lady that sets
- 55:58Speaker 1: me up, that flies me out, you know, like a
- 56:01Speaker 1: travel lady through Fox. You know, Fox pays me for
- 56:06Speaker 1: appearances a daily rate. This has nothing to do with
- 56:10Speaker 1: three and out the volume. This is completely when I'm
- 56:13Speaker 1: on this show. This is a Fox run operation. So
- 56:17Speaker 1: this is a separate venture obviously, but this it's not connected.
- 56:23Speaker 1: And yeah, it's cool. I enjoy mixing up and just
- 56:27Speaker 1: kind of getting out of your comfort zone coming down
- 56:30Speaker 1: here to Los Angeles. It helps that I live, you know,
- 56:33Speaker 1: an hour twenty minute flight away. But you know, my
- 56:36Speaker 1: wife today I actually for the I haven't taken a nap.
- 56:41Speaker 1: I don't know in years, but definitely not since football
- 56:44Speaker 1: season or you know, when the baby's been born, so
- 56:46Speaker 1: it's been a long time. I might have passed out
- 56:50Speaker 1: from like one to three today and it was glorious.
- 56:53Speaker 1: And the mistake I made then was my wife called
- 56:56Speaker 1: me and I told her I was kind of out
- 56:58Speaker 1: of it. I was like, I just got up from
- 56:59Speaker 1: an ap. She's like, it must be nice. Who yet was?
- 57:03Speaker 1: It was fucking us And let's enjoy the weekend, enjoy
- 57:08Speaker 1: the Masters. Who Rory McElroy is currently as I'm finishing
- 57:12Speaker 1: recording this. The final round just ended and he's an elite,
- 57:17Speaker 1: So Scottie Scheffler had a solid round. I would not mind.
- 57:22Speaker 1: I think we would all agree a little Rory Scottie Sunday.
- 57:25Speaker 1: I picked Bryson who tripled the eleventh toll and looks
- 57:29Speaker 1: like he's a disaster. John Rahm was even worse today,
- 57:32Speaker 1: so we might get a little Rory Scottie showdown. I
- 57:37Speaker 1: know that's what we're all rooting for. Have a great
- 57:39Speaker 1: weekend and I will talk to everyone soon. The volume