Latest / Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge / Sending Blessings and Prayers
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Two teas in a pod, which Teddy meloncan't and camera
- 0:06Speaker 1: edge good morning. Well it's not good morning, good morning
- 0:22Speaker 1: for us, and we are disaster zones over here at
- 0:25Speaker 1: two cheese in a pod. I mean, we obviously can't
- 0:27Speaker 1: talk about it. But as I'm sure you saw by
- 0:30Speaker 1: the pictures, Tam had a busy day yesterday, busy day,
- 0:33Speaker 1: and I'm freaking exhausted it got home there might have
- 0:36Speaker 1: been some tequila shows, got home pretty late last night,
- 0:39Speaker 1: and then I couldn't go to sleep because my mind
- 0:41Speaker 1: was just buzzing. So then God I went to bed.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Finally got up at four in the morning because I
- 0:46Speaker 1: had to watch a couple of housewatch shows. Souse I
- 0:48Speaker 1: haven't had time was Beverly Hills in Salt Lake City,
- 0:51Speaker 1: which neither one of them disappointed. No, neither one disappointed.
- 0:54Speaker 1: And in honor of last night's repeated shirt offender, we
- 0:58Speaker 1: have decided to wear own Jesus, fix It, Fix It
- 1:04Speaker 1: with Kathy and Kyle um and love Love, Oh you
- 1:09Speaker 1: look like? What was cathy shirt? Say love or peace?
- 1:12Speaker 1: Peace Peace? Both times that she wore it, it said peace.
- 1:17Speaker 1: Um okay. So so funny that she was so happy
- 1:20Speaker 1: with herself about wearing that shirt again. I'm here for peace.
- 1:24Speaker 1: It's peace. Um. But before we get into any housewives
- 1:29Speaker 1: headlines or um recaps, let's do our institution as this
- 1:35Speaker 1: one is kind of interesting. Why don't any of the
- 1:38Speaker 1: housewives wear seatbelts? Have you noticed this? That a lot
- 1:43Speaker 1: when they're in the cars, they don't have seatbelts on. Well,
- 1:46Speaker 1: I can speak for myself. A lot of times you
- 1:49Speaker 1: pull up. Let I'll take a for instance, I pull
- 1:51Speaker 1: up to cut Fitness and I go inside. I talked
- 1:53Speaker 1: to the producers and they're like, okay, we need to
- 1:55Speaker 1: drive up so you can't get back in your car.
- 1:57Speaker 1: And you drive up and then it's a two second
- 1:59Speaker 1: dry and you don't think about putting your seatbelt on.
- 2:02Speaker 1: I got very mindful of it because I did get
- 2:03Speaker 1: called out once like I have to wear my seatbelt
- 2:06Speaker 1: in my car and my car won't start freaking danging,
- 2:08Speaker 1: you know the sensor. So I think that's why, UM,
- 2:13Speaker 1: I do say in the back if I'm being driven around,
- 2:17Speaker 1: I have a really good driver this year, and he
- 2:19Speaker 1: always tells me, Tamara. Donald tells me, Tamara, is your
- 2:22Speaker 1: seatbelt on? And I said, oh, thank you Donald? And
- 2:25Speaker 1: I put my seatbelt on, but in the back stat
- 2:27Speaker 1: I'm really bad about it. I know, and I think
- 2:29Speaker 1: also a lot of times, yes, you're correct when I'm
- 2:32Speaker 1: said about the drive up. They always want to see
- 2:34Speaker 1: you getting out of the car. I don't know why
- 2:36Speaker 1: because and they never even show it. Um but a
- 2:40Speaker 1: lot of people don't want it to wrinkle whatever high
- 2:44Speaker 1: end fancy outfit they have on. So I don't really
- 2:47Speaker 1: have problems with that one. Well, yeah, I mean neither,
- 2:50Speaker 1: but I I see that like sometimes like depend on
- 2:53Speaker 1: what you wear for a wrinkles really bad. But I
- 2:55Speaker 1: mine personally can't drive my car with that bas belt on.
- 2:57Speaker 1: I personally can't drive. So you know, we need we
- 3:00Speaker 1: need to work on that. I drove yesterday. I drove
- 3:03Speaker 1: you know how far a mile m So you actually
- 3:08Speaker 1: could have walked. I could. I could have. The Only
- 3:11Speaker 1: reason I didn't walk us because I had a lot
- 3:12Speaker 1: of things in the car that I needed to drop somewhere.
- 3:15Speaker 1: So so why do you have a car if you
- 3:17Speaker 1: never drive? Because like this is gonna sound so nuts,
- 3:21Speaker 1: I can drive on Wednesdays. Don't even continue. You can
- 3:26Speaker 1: drive on Wednesdays. Wednesday, It's like part of I think
- 3:30Speaker 1: it's part of my O C D. But like Wednesdays
- 3:32Speaker 1: is a good driving day, Saturday is a good driving day.
- 3:36Speaker 1: It's just something. Saturday is the busiest day of the week.
- 3:39Speaker 1: I know, but I can, I think because I can
- 3:41Speaker 1: ultimately drive to the barn. So Wednesday and Saturday mornings
- 3:45Speaker 1: I drive slate to the barn. Well, what happens if
- 3:49Speaker 1: you get wild and drive on a Tuesday? I mean
- 3:52Speaker 1: I could drive. Well, see, that's why you guys, I've
- 3:55Speaker 1: taken my I walk my kids to the bus, so
- 3:58Speaker 1: like I don't have to really drive. I can walk
- 4:00Speaker 1: to the rotary store. I work from home. Where do
- 4:03Speaker 1: I walk to the grocery store? Than you're the one
- 4:06Speaker 1: walking down the street with a cart. Now I don't
- 4:09Speaker 1: have a cart. I like go so often that I
- 4:11Speaker 1: just have like the two bags and then all my
- 4:15Speaker 1: things are in walking distance. The dermatologist, I don't have
- 4:19Speaker 1: an You're essentially located that you have to walk everywhere.
- 4:22Speaker 1: I'm centrally located, Thank goodness. Um. The next question is, Teddy,
- 4:27Speaker 1: would you have kept pressing Kathy like Renna or stopped
- 4:32Speaker 1: after her apology? UM? My answer to that is it
- 4:36Speaker 1: would have depended on what she said. Um, but I
- 4:39Speaker 1: also think my delivery is slightly different. What would you
- 4:43Speaker 1: have done, Tam, because you're always just so subtle in
- 4:46Speaker 1: your delivery. Oh, I'm so subtle in my delivery. Um.
- 4:50Speaker 1: I think that we're talking about the Renna Cathy at
- 4:54Speaker 1: the end, Like I mean, I think that she kept
- 4:57Speaker 1: pushing it and pushing it and pushing it, and I
- 4:58Speaker 1: think that there was a part of her that was
- 5:01Speaker 1: doing it just for good TV. It's like, I'm not
- 5:03Speaker 1: letting you off. And then it came across a little aggressive.
- 5:06Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think that Lisa's message was bad, but
- 5:09Speaker 1: her continuing to push and push and push makes her
- 5:12Speaker 1: look bad. And I've had this happened to a million times,
- 5:14Speaker 1: Like I want to get my point across, and my
- 5:16Speaker 1: point might be right, but if you're too aggressive in
- 5:20Speaker 1: your point of view, you just look like a jerk.
- 5:23Speaker 1: And I felt like Lisa started to look at jerk.
- 5:25Speaker 1: She could have cut it off a little bit sooner. Yeah,
- 5:28Speaker 1: Like I think at the beginning, you could totally you
- 5:31Speaker 1: can see both sides. You can start to see, Oh,
- 5:33Speaker 1: I can see both sides, and I definitely think Cathy's
- 5:35Speaker 1: hiding something there's no doubt, and I think that's what happened.
- 5:39Speaker 1: Then you know this part we'll get into more. But
- 5:41Speaker 1: whenever thing's happened off camera, that that's always going to
- 5:44Speaker 1: be problematic. Which is part of the reason why I
- 5:47Speaker 1: love Lisa Barlow so much, Which is our next question,
- 5:50Speaker 1: it's who is your favorite from Salt Lake? Because she
- 5:53Speaker 1: did what a house life was supposed to do. She
- 5:56Speaker 1: waited during the off season, did not apologize to heradith
- 6:00Speaker 1: off camera. So we are coming in fresh to a
- 6:03Speaker 1: new season, left off the reunion, right right, and you
- 6:07Speaker 1: can fill that smart. How long? How long of a
- 6:10Speaker 1: break did they have, do you know? Well, I mean
- 6:12Speaker 1: we were already I mean we've been podcasting all the
- 6:16Speaker 1: way through their whole last season and their bread I
- 6:20Speaker 1: would say maybe two months, but I remember they started
- 6:23Speaker 1: filming early because of the gin Shaw stuff. Yeah, so
- 6:26Speaker 1: they didn't have a lot of time in between. Like
- 6:28Speaker 1: some of these shows start filming immediately. Like look at Atlanta.
- 6:30Speaker 1: There's I don't know if it's true, but there's you know,
- 6:33Speaker 1: post out there saying that they're already filming and they've
- 6:35Speaker 1: announced to like the new you know, final If it's
- 6:39Speaker 1: a friend or a New Housewife and I'm like, they
- 6:41Speaker 1: don't do that anywhere else. Yeah, No, I think they
- 6:44Speaker 1: just they want to get right going. But I think
- 6:48Speaker 1: it's also something to think about is when you are
- 6:50Speaker 1: filming Housewives during Bravo Con, A lot goes down at
- 6:56Speaker 1: Bravo Con. So like for you guys filming o C
- 6:59Speaker 1: for Atlanta, who is filming for you know, I'm freaked
- 7:02Speaker 1: out about that, Yeah, because she really goes down and
- 7:05Speaker 1: what goes down, and it's, um, it's pretty crazy to
- 7:10Speaker 1: think like we're gonna all be away from cameras for
- 7:13Speaker 1: five days or however long it is in all in
- 7:15Speaker 1: the same hotel pretty much, and it's yeah, it's I know,
- 7:19Speaker 1: I just got like my press schedule and all the
- 7:22Speaker 1: different things, and I'm like, this is gonna be intense.
- 7:25Speaker 1: And if you guys haven't gotten tickets, make sure you
- 7:27Speaker 1: still have time. Um, but it I feel like i
- 7:33Speaker 1: just need to bring my own little handicam and I'm
- 7:36Speaker 1: just gonna film, yes, Teddy Walters Teddy Walter Walters on
- 7:41Speaker 1: location like cam we go out to dinners or too
- 7:44Speaker 1: parties or whatever. I'm just gonna have my cam and
- 7:46Speaker 1: just be like yeah, because no one will even care.
- 7:50Speaker 1: That's the problem. When you're in the middle of a
- 7:52Speaker 1: bravocn fight, people are like, whatever, Yeah, it's gonna be epic,
- 7:56Speaker 1: it's gonna be good, but okay. Housewife headline Leslie Badoor
- 8:03Speaker 1: post she has filed for divorce with a photo with
- 8:06Speaker 1: her daughter on the beach. She also posted on her
- 8:09Speaker 1: Instagram stories. Her main caption says, I'm filing for divorce.
- 8:13Speaker 1: While this is not what I have ever expected, it
- 8:16Speaker 1: is what is best. I value myself and the happiness
- 8:19Speaker 1: and well being of my children. I am so grateful
- 8:21Speaker 1: for a tremendous circle of friends and family who support me.
- 8:25Speaker 1: Looking forward to a bright and happy future with my
- 8:27Speaker 1: beautiful kiddos. Then, on her story, she writes, I have
- 8:31Speaker 1: a lot to share, will one day. For now, I'm
- 8:34Speaker 1: going to focus on spending all my free time with
- 8:37Speaker 1: my amazing kiddos and laughing with my friends. I'm so
- 8:39Speaker 1: sure you're laughing up a storm. Do you think that
- 8:43Speaker 1: I should have Leslie share on the pod with MOA.
- 8:48Speaker 1: I don't want anything to do with it, but yeah
- 8:50Speaker 1: you can. Um it's really weird to me, like he
- 8:53Speaker 1: filed for divorce, and then she announced he didn't announce.
- 8:57Speaker 1: She announced that he called it off. But then but
- 9:00Speaker 1: then there was convicting, Yeah, conflicting views, and somebody from
- 9:03Speaker 1: the court said, no, that's never happened. But sometimes it
- 9:06Speaker 1: takes two weeks to go public. So and now she's
- 9:09Speaker 1: filing for divorce. My question is, why the hell does
- 9:12Speaker 1: she have a check next to her name? Because of
- 9:17Speaker 1: the first time around, remember when she like lost it.
- 9:19Speaker 1: I can't remember what walmart about Walmart? Yeah, where she
- 9:23Speaker 1: like I feel like she got a checkmark somewhere around
- 9:26Speaker 1: that time because she's not a public any or whatever.
- 9:30Speaker 1: So anyway, so she now has claimed that she filed
- 9:33Speaker 1: for divorce, which is crazy, but then she has to
- 9:36Speaker 1: go and talk about it, like why can't you why
- 9:39Speaker 1: why are you talking about it? Why are you telling it?
- 9:41Speaker 1: Because she must want to be on the show that's
- 9:44Speaker 1: never gonna happen The Housewives. Yes, oh that will never happen.
- 9:49Speaker 1: That is never gonna happen. But I do think possibility
- 9:52Speaker 1: that she could be reaching out to Shannon soon. I
- 9:55Speaker 1: think that's the possibility. But also I mean I think
- 9:59Speaker 1: I think she would probably come on and talk to us.
- 10:01Speaker 1: But you know, there's a part of me. She hates
- 10:05Speaker 1: me so well, I'm sure she hates me too. I probably,
- 10:08Speaker 1: you know most people do. It's a hate love. It's
- 10:14Speaker 1: like hate sex, Like you can't help but listen to it,
- 10:18Speaker 1: but you hate it. Okay, Um, you gotta get into
- 10:21Speaker 1: the next one. Oh my gosh, So real Housewives of
- 10:24Speaker 1: Beverly Hills start. Erica james mansion sold for seven point
- 10:27Speaker 1: five million to payback victims of husband Tom's embezzlement. So
- 10:31Speaker 1: Radar Online broke the story. Erica james one time lavish
- 10:34Speaker 1: mansion shared with her strange husband Tom has been sold
- 10:37Speaker 1: off as part of the lawyers in voluntary bankruptcy. Radar
- 10:40Speaker 1: online dot Com has learned. According to the court documents,
- 10:44Speaker 1: the trustee presiding over Girardi's Chapter seven case has informed
- 10:48Speaker 1: the court that buyers named June Tao and Ping Tao
- 10:53Speaker 1: have put forth and offer for seven point five million.
- 10:56Speaker 1: Oh that's a that's a lot of money in the
- 10:59Speaker 1: new court. Finally, the trustees asked the judge to sign
- 11:02Speaker 1: off on the deal and allowed the proceeds to pay
- 11:04Speaker 1: back a few of the mini creditors. The home had
- 11:07Speaker 1: initially been put on the market for thirteen million. Holy crap,
- 11:11Speaker 1: so it went for almost half as part of the bankruptcy.
- 11:14Speaker 1: In one, however, the trustees had been forced to slash
- 11:18Speaker 1: the price several times over the course of several months.
- 11:21Speaker 1: The asking price was lowered to eleven point five million,
- 11:25Speaker 1: then down to nine point nine eight million, and then
- 11:28Speaker 1: down to eight point nine million. Yeah, and I mean
- 11:31Speaker 1: I then finally sold for seven point five What a steal? What? Well,
- 11:36Speaker 1: I think that's because the house really needed an upgrade.
- 11:39Speaker 1: Oh you think, yes, so, I you know, I think
- 11:43Speaker 1: it just kept getting slashed. But also I think that
- 11:46Speaker 1: all of their items were also auctioned off. I think
- 11:49Speaker 1: that's what I was gonna ask, like, did it sell
- 11:51Speaker 1: with everything in it? Or everything was auctioned off? No?
- 11:55Speaker 1: I think there it's two separate things. But then you
- 11:57Speaker 1: go to wonder, you know, how much of this money
- 12:00Speaker 1: will actually go to the victims, and how much goes
- 12:03Speaker 1: to lawyers? And how much do we know if the
- 12:05Speaker 1: house is paid off? I don't know. I would have. Well,
- 12:10Speaker 1: it's in bankruptcy, so that yeah, But isn't the bank
- 12:15Speaker 1: going to get part of this money? That's what I'm saying.
- 12:17Speaker 1: How much will actually go to That's what I was
- 12:20Speaker 1: wondering if the house people bought it straight out, Yeah, yeah,
- 12:24Speaker 1: and the house was like the Tom and Erica had
- 12:27Speaker 1: paid cash for the house or something, and then now, like,
- 12:30Speaker 1: is all that money going towards the victims? I would
- 12:32Speaker 1: probably think not. I'm sure they had a mortgage on it,
- 12:35Speaker 1: so part of it has to go to the bank
- 12:36Speaker 1: as well. But even if they owned it straight out,
- 12:39Speaker 1: the people buying it now probably aren't buying it cash.
- 12:43Speaker 1: I mean, who knows we have I don't know, but uh,
- 12:47Speaker 1: you don't know. We do not know, Okay. Real Housewife
- 12:51Speaker 1: of Salt Lake City star Heather Gay I will never
- 12:54Speaker 1: shut the door on jin Shaw Full Today Show article here.
- 12:59Speaker 1: Gay was hopeful about her relationship with Barlow during season three.
- 13:03Speaker 1: Heather says after the season two reunions, she and Barlow
- 13:05Speaker 1: went to dinner together at Leasta bought a bottle of
- 13:07Speaker 1: Vita tequila. Gay said she felt really hopeful that Lisa
- 13:11Speaker 1: and I could get to a great place and really
- 13:13Speaker 1: enjoy each other. Gaze. Hope didn't last long, as Gay
- 13:16Speaker 1: told Today, I can tease that nothing changes about our
- 13:20Speaker 1: relationship during the season three um. She also shares that
- 13:26Speaker 1: her relationship with Whitney Rose is deeply painful, which I
- 13:29Speaker 1: think if you watch watch What Happens Live last night,
- 13:32Speaker 1: you can see that there is a lot of bad
- 13:34Speaker 1: blood there between the cousins, h between the cousins. And
- 13:39Speaker 1: then um Gay said she portrayed everybody by writing her book.
- 13:43Speaker 1: I didn't realize how deeply loyal I was to the
- 13:45Speaker 1: faith I no longer believed in, and moreover, to my
- 13:48Speaker 1: family and my friends who still deeply believed. I was
- 13:51Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to tell my story honestly
- 13:53Speaker 1: and cannot betray everyone I love the most guests what happened,
- 13:56Speaker 1: I couldn't figure it out, So I betrayed everybody and
- 13:58Speaker 1: wrote the book. As a result, I'm proud of it
- 14:02Speaker 1: good and I stand behind every single word. And I
- 14:05Speaker 1: wouldn't have taken the risk and challenge relationships with people
- 14:08Speaker 1: I love the most if it weren't true. Um and
- 14:12Speaker 1: then final things she said was she will never shut
- 14:15Speaker 1: the door on jin Shaw. That's what a good friend does,
- 14:19Speaker 1: even if every cell in my body was like, something's
- 14:22Speaker 1: not right. That's not what you do when your friends
- 14:24Speaker 1: are in trouble. I wasn't supporting Jen and her Ennsis,
- 14:27Speaker 1: so much. I was just supporting Jen and her journey.
- 14:30Speaker 1: If I'm going to be Jen's friend when she's up
- 14:32Speaker 1: and queen and m v P, I'm going to be
- 14:34Speaker 1: her friend when she's down pleading guilty and facing sentencing,
- 14:38Speaker 1: I will never shut the door on jin Shaw, Gay continued. Okay,
- 14:44Speaker 1: so she's already to betrayal her friends, but she's there
- 14:46Speaker 1: for gen Sa. You mean betray her family. Yeah, but
- 14:50Speaker 1: the betrayal is okay, But when it comes to gen Shaw,
- 14:53Speaker 1: she's there to the end. She is there to the end.
- 14:57Speaker 1: A K. I am scared of jin Shaw and I
- 15:00Speaker 1: somewhere exactly. Um, that's that. That was interesting. So Camille
- 15:07Speaker 1: strikes again. This woman can't stop commenting on Beverly Hills Housewives,
- 15:13Speaker 1: can't she well, and then we have to point out
- 15:16Speaker 1: that people will then say the same thing to me,
- 15:18Speaker 1: like Teddy, you're just as bad as because I've made
- 15:22Speaker 1: a comment about this before, and people, this is a job,
- 15:24Speaker 1: you get paid for it. But like this, look at
- 15:26Speaker 1: these notes, these chicken scratch notes. This is work. This
- 15:29Speaker 1: isn't like a little work, This isn't like a little
- 15:32Speaker 1: whim like And also can Camille, once again pointing out
- 15:36Speaker 1: the obvious and pandering to the audience. But go ahead
- 15:39Speaker 1: and read, Oh my god. So Camille weighs in on
- 15:41Speaker 1: our recent post. She says, Renn it is a hypocrite.
- 15:44Speaker 1: So Bravo Housewives posted. Is this this is on Instagram
- 15:49Speaker 1: or is this Twitter? I think she's probably two. Okay,
- 15:52Speaker 1: extended to sneak peak, Kathy and ren A face off
- 15:55Speaker 1: tonight on the new Real House is Beverly Hills follow
- 15:58Speaker 1: Bravo house whatever, and then can put I can never
- 16:02Speaker 1: say this word hypocrisy, you said, I know, I can
- 16:05Speaker 1: never say the hypocrisy and then she and then it's
- 16:09Speaker 1: pinned somehow they pinned it to the top right, and
- 16:13Speaker 1: then Camille goes everyone has lost their temper on Housewives,
- 16:17Speaker 1: especially if they have been pushed to limit gaslight by
- 16:20Speaker 1: some ladies. But here's the thing. I get that everyone
- 16:25Speaker 1: is pushed to their limit. However, in this moment when
- 16:29Speaker 1: Kathy loses it, Kathy wasn't being pushed by any of
- 16:33Speaker 1: the ladies. They weren't treating her terribly. So if we
- 16:36Speaker 1: go back and look at the history of time when
- 16:39Speaker 1: women have lost it, it's because things are hit Like
- 16:42Speaker 1: when you lost it in the where were you in Ireland? Yeah,
- 16:46Speaker 1: I've lost it everywhere in the world, but it was
- 16:48Speaker 1: because somebody was coming at you. I rarely lose it
- 16:51Speaker 1: for no reason like I have to. There's there's gotta
- 16:53Speaker 1: be a reason, Like what Kathy was losing it over
- 16:56Speaker 1: was a hectic work schedule or what you know, something
- 16:59Speaker 1: had opening about a drink, but like people weren't coming
- 17:02Speaker 1: for her. I'm still really royally confused on what really
- 17:05Speaker 1: pushed over. It started with the tequila, like Renna not
- 17:10Speaker 1: ordering the right tequila, and then just escalated from there
- 17:13Speaker 1: and they just never stopped and it just never stopped.
- 17:15Speaker 1: But you know, you realize in this episode that the
- 17:17Speaker 1: women didn't even realize she was losing it at Chimo
- 17:20Speaker 1: Sabi No. I know. So you're like, WHOA, Well, that's
- 17:23Speaker 1: when when she's like Kyle's doing nothing, Kyle's oblivious to
- 17:26Speaker 1: what is going on. She's like doing whatever she's doing.
- 17:29Speaker 1: It's like it's not like she's sitting there watching with
- 17:31Speaker 1: Rena's drinking. So I mean, yes, do I think everything
- 17:34Speaker 1: was handled correctly in this episode? Absolutely not. But do
- 17:38Speaker 1: I think you can do a parallel of women losing
- 17:40Speaker 1: it on Housewife? For absolutely no reason. Now, it's just
- 17:45Speaker 1: so difficult when things happen off camera and then you
- 17:48Speaker 1: try to put the pieces together. The one thing that
- 17:51Speaker 1: I am confused about is that Renna has a mouth,
- 17:55Speaker 1: Like she's the mouth and the show, and she will
- 17:58Speaker 1: call everybody out and say how she feels in a
- 18:01Speaker 1: sometimes an aggressive manner. Why has she not exposed Like
- 18:05Speaker 1: at the very beginning, she's very like she didn't want
- 18:08Speaker 1: to say what happened. I mean, I think the same
- 18:11Speaker 1: way that we can't always say what happens we have bosses.
- 18:18Speaker 1: But she said like a lot was said about Kyle.
- 18:21Speaker 1: You know, she said a lot about Kyle. But then
- 18:23Speaker 1: I never really fully have heard unless I missed it,
- 18:26Speaker 1: what she said about Kyle. Well, I think first like
- 18:28Speaker 1: what I saw in this episode at least was Kyle
- 18:30Speaker 1: was saying she didn't want to know because it would
- 18:32Speaker 1: hurt her feelings too much, or maybe I saw that
- 18:34Speaker 1: on the Bravo after show or whatever those things are
- 18:37Speaker 1: where you like sitting next to somebody on those chairs,
- 18:39Speaker 1: I forget what they're called. Um, but Kyle says like
- 18:42Speaker 1: I never wanted to know the extent because I don't
- 18:44Speaker 1: want to have to live without her I don't hurt
- 18:46Speaker 1: my feelings too much, um is what she said then.
- 18:50Speaker 1: But I think that's what we're you know, even in
- 18:55Speaker 1: the episode, Kyle says she doesn't want to know. Okay,
- 18:59Speaker 1: so that makes more sense. Um, sure, but yeah, Camille
- 19:03Speaker 1: is just you know, she Camille. Here's the thing. I
- 19:06Speaker 1: don't even mind. Like if people are to tweet and
- 19:09Speaker 1: they're not getting paid to tweet, but Camille when she's
- 19:13Speaker 1: actually in your face, has nothing to say. Yeah, she backpedals,
- 19:18Speaker 1: so we all remember that. So oh, this next one
- 19:24Speaker 1: is Jim Shaw tweets about Lisa Barlow. So last night
- 19:29Speaker 1: on Watch What Happens Live, Andy asked Lisa Barlow and
- 19:34Speaker 1: um Whitney h if they will keep in contact with
- 19:39Speaker 1: Coach Shaw and the kids if Jen goes to prison,
- 19:42Speaker 1: and Lisa says, I don't really know Jen's kids, but
- 19:45Speaker 1: I think they're doing great things. And if I see
- 19:48Speaker 1: Coach i'd be super nice to him. He's been great
- 19:51Speaker 1: to me. And Whitney says, yeah, if her kids ever
- 19:53Speaker 1: need anything, I would be there for her kids. I
- 19:56Speaker 1: don't think they're necessarily in this moment saying anything bad.
- 20:00Speaker 1: They're just no winning out the obvious and then jin
- 20:03Speaker 1: Shaw tweets, I don't want anyone looking after my kids
- 20:09Speaker 1: that calls them the N word at lista Barlow hashtag,
- 20:12Speaker 1: Watch what Happens Live hashtag rh O SLC hashtag In
- 20:17Speaker 1: a double CP, she when did that happen? I at
- 20:25Speaker 1: least did this? We don't We've never seen this happen.
- 20:29Speaker 1: I mean, and I and I really hope Lisa did
- 20:32Speaker 1: not say that. I mean, we don't know. I would
- 20:34Speaker 1: hope she wouldn't say it either. Yeah, I agree, I agree.
- 20:38Speaker 1: Then there's a of course they right after the episode
- 20:41Speaker 1: or whenever it was. There's an R H O b
- 20:43Speaker 1: H deleted scene where Garcelle and Sutton call out the
- 20:47Speaker 1: group's very obvious double standard. Um Garcela says, Erica and
- 20:51Speaker 1: Kyle Derete and Kyle made up very quickly. Derit says
- 20:56Speaker 1: Kyle and I it's like two annoying sisters that fight
- 20:59Speaker 1: in our you and Sutton says, what's more surprising how
- 21:02Speaker 1: quickly the apologies are taken. Dred defends herself, I do
- 21:06Speaker 1: not have the heart to leave someone or not be
- 21:08Speaker 1: there for someone, and then Crystal says, definitely, a few
- 21:11Speaker 1: people in this group protect each other at all costs,
- 21:14Speaker 1: and they would hold none of each other accountable and
- 21:17Speaker 1: if they do something wrong they get a slap on
- 21:20Speaker 1: the hand. But with us, the wrath comes out. And
- 21:22Speaker 1: I'm sick of the double standard. Listen. Yes, do I
- 21:25Speaker 1: think there's always double standards and Housewives, Yes, But it
- 21:28Speaker 1: really depends on the person you're fighting with. If you
- 21:31Speaker 1: see when Garcell was having the issue with Erica recently,
- 21:36Speaker 1: when she went on the reil and talked about it.
- 21:39Speaker 1: Immediately Garcell said, I'm sorry, and Erica dropped it, did
- 21:43Speaker 1: you not? Yeah, No, you're right, You're right, Like it
- 21:48Speaker 1: really just depends. There's ways to shut down an argument,
- 21:51Speaker 1: and there's ways to exacerbate in our for sure, for sure.
- 21:56Speaker 1: So Candy talk seating arrangement for the Real Housewives Atlanta
- 21:58Speaker 1: reunion with Andy co in Um. She was shocked by
- 22:01Speaker 1: the lineup where they were sitting. Was that because she
- 22:04Speaker 1: was at the end, just like Say? Andy said, because
- 22:07Speaker 1: Say and Marlowe had the most drama, they were sitting
- 22:10Speaker 1: next to him, which is normal, right, typical. Candy agrees,
- 22:13Speaker 1: thank you for saying that, So says, it's a seat
- 22:17Speaker 1: for the people who have been in the most mess
- 22:19Speaker 1: says Drew and Sonia sitting next to each other was weird,
- 22:22Speaker 1: and we I think we talked about this on you know,
- 22:25Speaker 1: one of the reunions, saying it was weird for them
- 22:28Speaker 1: to be sitting next to each other because her back
- 22:30Speaker 1: was to her. You know, it was like it was
- 22:33Speaker 1: a little weird. So I'm not going to disagree with
- 22:36Speaker 1: what Candy has said. Me eat the Um okay, let's
- 22:41Speaker 1: take a little break and we'll come back and talk
- 22:42Speaker 1: about Beverly Hills. We are back, and this is the
- 22:54Speaker 1: episode before the finale, and I you know, oh, so
- 22:58Speaker 1: we only have one more episode of Beverly Hills. They're
- 23:01Speaker 1: in like episode twenty, episode twenty. That is a long season,
- 23:06Speaker 1: long long season. Okay. It starts out with dried and
- 23:11Speaker 1: Kyle's face time. Umdre says, Rnna left early and no
- 23:16Speaker 1: one knew why. However, Crystal actually did know why. And
- 23:22Speaker 1: then let's i mean also point out the obvious that
- 23:26Speaker 1: Kathy didn't come on the plane but came in pretending
- 23:29Speaker 1: all was okay. And you know, that's that's the beginning scene.
- 23:35Speaker 1: We realized that, uh, that wasn't really going to be addressed,
- 23:40Speaker 1: and people were at this point going to pick where
- 23:43Speaker 1: they wanted to lie on whatever happened of camera. Now,
- 23:47Speaker 1: what killed me in the very beginning was a little
- 23:49Speaker 1: scene with her and her daughter I ten men three
- 23:56Speaker 1: five four three. I'm like, oh my god, Pen, this
- 24:00Speaker 1: is going to be a star. She is. She she's
- 24:02Speaker 1: already a little star. Like she knows how to ham
- 24:05Speaker 1: it up. Get like she she a scene Steeler every
- 24:09Speaker 1: time she's she's really thinking. But both the kids are
- 24:13Speaker 1: like that, right, yeah, but Phoenix, I think, I mean,
- 24:16Speaker 1: Phoenix is just I don't know, she's she's adoring me. Um.
- 24:21Speaker 1: Then that's when Kyle says she thinks it's maybe best.
- 24:25Speaker 1: She doesn't know how bad it actually was or what
- 24:29Speaker 1: things were potentially said. So it was that their makeup
- 24:33Speaker 1: scene because I kind of feel like, um, when they
- 24:35Speaker 1: were in unless I missed something, when they were in Aspen,
- 24:39Speaker 1: Jari was really you know, team Erica and kind of
- 24:44Speaker 1: like we said, she was playing both sides. Well, I
- 24:47Speaker 1: think that's just been her thing this entire season. Um.
- 24:51Speaker 1: I think they made up in Aspen when like she
- 24:54Speaker 1: got ready. But like obviously they still have that because
- 24:58Speaker 1: we saw the watch What Happens Live. I mean they
- 25:00Speaker 1: may have made up, but there's still some sort of
- 25:03Speaker 1: tension because you saw. That's what I thought, because of
- 25:06Speaker 1: what happened on Watch Heaven's Live. Okay, yeah, so I
- 25:08Speaker 1: mean I don't think that everything's hunky dory, No, I know. Um,
- 25:13Speaker 1: I gotta get props to Erica. Um. I love seeing
- 25:17Speaker 1: my housewives with no makeup on at their you know,
- 25:20Speaker 1: when they're sad and upset, and a lot of housewives
- 25:23Speaker 1: will not do that. Well. I think she learned her
- 25:25Speaker 1: lesson after that hiking scene from last year. Or she
- 25:28Speaker 1: was crying and then didn't wipe the tears and there
- 25:30Speaker 1: was just the line. Yeah, I mean it was sad.
- 25:33Speaker 1: It broke my heart. Erica says since moving out and
- 25:35Speaker 1: filing for divorce, she has made therapy a regular thing.
- 25:38Speaker 1: Her therapist tells her that she is not only at
- 25:40Speaker 1: a loss of her husband, but also at a loss
- 25:43Speaker 1: of the of who she thought he was. Erica talks
- 25:47Speaker 1: about how she misses the Tom who made everyone feel good,
- 25:51Speaker 1: but as sweet as he could be, he could flip.
- 25:54Speaker 1: So did you ever see him really flip? Or I
- 25:57Speaker 1: never really saw him. I think I met him one time.
- 26:02Speaker 1: She had a pretty mess concert. I met him at
- 26:05Speaker 1: in the green room for one second, like not even
- 26:08Speaker 1: we didn't even we weren't even introduced. And then the
- 26:10Speaker 1: second time was at Erica's house where he came in
- 26:12Speaker 1: and just like told stories about himself the entire time
- 26:15Speaker 1: and um and but then they do flashback scenes of
- 26:20Speaker 1: where he is being, you know, dismissive of her, and
- 26:23Speaker 1: I think that's why she quit bringing him around the group,
- 26:27Speaker 1: Like wouldn't you be the same, like if you're gonna
- 26:30Speaker 1: treat me like that on camera? But um, I mean
- 26:33Speaker 1: two other things came up while I was watching the scene,
- 26:36Speaker 1: which the ancient MacBook Air was definitely not on the
- 26:39Speaker 1: list of things to be sold. When I saw the computer,
- 26:42Speaker 1: I was like, that's like my computer that never turns on.
- 26:45Speaker 1: Um so that And did you recognize the therapist? No?
- 26:51Speaker 1: I didn't, but she was very glad in her zoom.
- 26:55Speaker 1: Who is it? That's Dr jin Well, I think Dr
- 26:58Speaker 1: jin Man. She used to be doctor Jim Berman, who
- 27:03Speaker 1: was on either couple's therapy familiar, Yes, and she has
- 27:09Speaker 1: all these books And I mean I liked what she said.
- 27:11Speaker 1: It made a lot of sense. But the first thing
- 27:13Speaker 1: I noticed was like she was on that train wreck
- 27:16Speaker 1: reality show with like and I loved that show, um
- 27:22Speaker 1: so well, I think because in general, I don't even
- 27:25Speaker 1: know if that's her real therapist. It could be, it
- 27:27Speaker 1: could not be. But most therapists are not okay to
- 27:31Speaker 1: go onto a reality show. Yeah, unless they're like a
- 27:35Speaker 1: well there like the guy. No oh yeah Dr Ken,
- 27:40Speaker 1: dr Ken. Yeah. Yeah, unless you're doctor Drew. You really
- 27:45Speaker 1: don't want to. Yeah, unless you're a celebrity therapist. Most
- 27:49Speaker 1: of the time they you want to keep a pretty
- 27:52Speaker 1: low pro for sure. Yeah. I definitely don't see uh,
- 27:55Speaker 1: my my therapist wanting to make any kind of podcast. Kid,
- 28:00Speaker 1: She's like, I talked to you one out, honey. Um.
- 28:06Speaker 1: And then this part really sunk into me was when
- 28:09Speaker 1: Erica says, I want to believe it all got away
- 28:13Speaker 1: from Tom, not that he orchestrated it this way, but
- 28:18Speaker 1: like kind of the way she said it, like like theory,
- 28:20Speaker 1: and but it felt like a raw moment of being
- 28:25Speaker 1: afraid and changing her mindset to acceptance, like something I
- 28:29Speaker 1: think we all forget about everything she's going through. It's
- 28:32Speaker 1: not just these lawsuits, but she's lost her husband of
- 28:35Speaker 1: twenty some years, to her house, her security, all that stuff,
- 28:40Speaker 1: her career, like her other side of her career, like
- 28:44Speaker 1: which I think that's where she found a lot of
- 28:46Speaker 1: her happiness was through you know, performing and doing all that.
- 28:50Speaker 1: We never saw her perform once this season or anything.
- 28:53Speaker 1: I know, that's what I was thinking, if she was
- 28:55Speaker 1: going to go back to it, Well, I think it's expensive.
- 28:57Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say. It's gotta be expensive
- 28:59Speaker 1: and got to be expensive. I think also some things
- 29:03Speaker 1: came out in this therapy appointment when you see the
- 29:07Speaker 1: Dr Jen saying, you know, this is a lot like
- 29:10Speaker 1: your childhood where you weren't allowed to have a voice,
- 29:12Speaker 1: and you you know, those are little tidbits that like
- 29:15Speaker 1: bring us into like things that we don't really know,
- 29:18Speaker 1: Like she's a human, she's got feelings people. Um. And
- 29:22Speaker 1: then but she says it again, I'm going to say
- 29:25Speaker 1: something that isn't popular, and she brings up the fact
- 29:29Speaker 1: that you know, she also is you know, she's also
- 29:34Speaker 1: a victim here. Whatever it was that she actually said, um,
- 29:39Speaker 1: where you're just like, I wish you would leave it
- 29:41Speaker 1: where it is. We know we know that part. I know,
- 29:45Speaker 1: let's leave it like this is such a good moment
- 29:47Speaker 1: where we we actually see the softer side of you
- 29:50Speaker 1: leave it. Yeah. Um, well obviously it's hard for her yeah, um,
- 29:57Speaker 1: but she does have her her pretty much hey, her
- 30:00Speaker 1: pop up shop, pretty mass hair pop up shop? Where
- 30:03Speaker 1: then yeah, say that three times fast hair pop up shop.
- 30:07Speaker 1: And did you see who was there doing the press? Uh? Lena? Yes,
- 30:14Speaker 1: I know. When I saw that, I go, okay, yep,
- 30:18Speaker 1: that well, she used to be a People magazine. I
- 30:22Speaker 1: don't know where she is now. No, she used to
- 30:24Speaker 1: be at Hollywood Life. Hollywood Life, and then she went
- 30:26Speaker 1: to People. Did she move again? I don't know. She's freely.
- 30:29Speaker 1: I have no idea because it didn't say below People Magazine.
- 30:32Speaker 1: That's the only reason I'm not sure where she is.
- 30:34Speaker 1: But it's impossible to go to any event and her
- 30:37Speaker 1: not be there. Her not be there, right. She was
- 30:39Speaker 1: like when we went on that hike that day. I
- 30:40Speaker 1: know when we went up we did like an ad
- 30:42Speaker 1: for something and went on this hike for like hey,
- 30:46Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, I'm like hey, and
- 30:47Speaker 1: she's like, can I enter your first second? Remember remember
- 30:50Speaker 1: she took Kyle over to the side and we're like
- 30:53Speaker 1: be careful, We're like and then we were trying to
- 30:57Speaker 1: have a conversation on the hike, and she kept getting
- 30:59Speaker 1: closed certain clothes at us, and we're like, no mind,
- 31:03Speaker 1: we're trying to gossip here and you're gonna leak everything.
- 31:06Speaker 1: Get away. We had to, we had to stifle ourselves
- 31:10Speaker 1: because she is sweet. She's sweet, she is nice. Um,
- 31:13Speaker 1: she's I know, she's nice. But but the pop up shop.
- 31:17Speaker 1: And then, you know what I love the most about
- 31:19Speaker 1: the pop up shop? When Lisa Wrenna admitted that her
- 31:22Speaker 1: outfit was rented, well, I don't think Lisa really thought
- 31:26Speaker 1: they were going to get that part. Well obviously obviously.
- 31:30Speaker 1: Now my question, but does she rent all her clothes?
- 31:33Speaker 1: Because you know what, not a bad idea. I'm jealous.
- 31:36Speaker 1: I wish I knew about this, and then I wouldn't
- 31:37Speaker 1: have to loan all my clothes to you so that
- 31:39Speaker 1: I don't have its guilty about buying them. I will
- 31:42Speaker 1: never borrow another piece of article from you again, because
- 31:46Speaker 1: you called me out every time. Well, no, it's good,
- 31:48Speaker 1: I'm borrowing stuff from you. Are you kidding? I already
- 31:52Speaker 1: saw that the coral dress that you wore, and we
- 31:57Speaker 1: can't talk about what it was, but not the on
- 32:00Speaker 1: dress with the other one. I think it's a suit. Yeah,
- 32:02Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, the short suit. Yeah of course. Um yeah,
- 32:07Speaker 1: I want to know if you can find out where
- 32:09Speaker 1: she rents from, because there's Rent the Runway, but they
- 32:12Speaker 1: don't really have a lot that stuff like that. That's
- 32:14Speaker 1: not like stuff like that. It's not high end. But
- 32:16Speaker 1: we're at the Rent the Runway. I have rented address
- 32:18Speaker 1: for opening titles once from Rent the Runway because I
- 32:20Speaker 1: needed a specific color Da da da da, and they
- 32:22Speaker 1: had it. I'm like, what the hell? My guess is
- 32:25Speaker 1: by rent, she probably means she pays a stylist and
- 32:29Speaker 1: the stylists borrows and then she you know, like if
- 32:32Speaker 1: you pay a stylist fee like the high end, they
- 32:36Speaker 1: can get the I don't know, but that's borrowed, she said.
- 32:39Speaker 1: She clearly said rent. So I I went online and
- 32:43Speaker 1: I said, well, what the hell? So I put rent
- 32:45Speaker 1: high end clothes and of these, there's a few websites
- 32:48Speaker 1: out there that do it. But then I started to
- 32:50Speaker 1: get into it. Then you gotta put all your information
- 32:51Speaker 1: and I'm like, I can't do this right now. So
- 32:53Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna look into it. Yeah, I am so
- 32:57Speaker 1: sick of buying clothes. I believe me, you know me,
- 33:00Speaker 1: I'd rather just be in sweats. I mean I even
- 33:06Speaker 1: have my Christmas pajamas on right now. Yeah, I have
- 33:10Speaker 1: my um my ug slippers and like my workout pants.
- 33:15Speaker 1: I still need to shower from my workout this morning.
- 33:17Speaker 1: Like this is this is lovely, um and Dorine. At
- 33:22Speaker 1: the moment, it looked like a brats doll, like a
- 33:25Speaker 1: precheen with the braids in the front. Oh my god,
- 33:28Speaker 1: that's so funny. Oh my gosh, she kind of did.
- 33:31Speaker 1: But I love that Renna once again walks in with
- 33:34Speaker 1: you know, a wig, and the like is that, like,
- 33:39Speaker 1: you know, she didn't come with her own hair. She
- 33:41Speaker 1: came with a wig again, not supporting your friend's business.
- 33:45Speaker 1: First it was tequila and now it's the wigs. But
- 33:48Speaker 1: I love that, Crystal. It has to break like Crystal,
- 33:50Speaker 1: you know, that's a way, you know what we all
- 33:53Speaker 1: know what Renna's hair looks like. Yeah, she's pointing out
- 33:55Speaker 1: the obvious and then she's like, oh is that the extensions?
- 34:00Speaker 1: Like oh my gosh. And then I have to say
- 34:04Speaker 1: I really liked Sutton this episode, um her saying that
- 34:09Speaker 1: she when her and Erica were making the joke back
- 34:12Speaker 1: and forth about Sutton saying she was probably not going
- 34:14Speaker 1: to come and then Sutton. Then Erica says, Sutton rose
- 34:19Speaker 1: above my petty ass and she wants and then Sutton says,
- 34:23Speaker 1: I want Erica to beat this and it succeed and
- 34:26Speaker 1: I hope by showing up she was very sweet. I
- 34:28Speaker 1: I love Sutton. I have a very soft spot in
- 34:32Speaker 1: my heart for Sutton. Um. I thought it was really cute. Um.
- 34:36Speaker 1: And then and in a not shocking turn of events, uh,
- 34:41Speaker 1: Diana gets another celebrity FaceTime, this time from Elton John.
- 34:47Speaker 1: And so my question to you is, who is the
- 34:50Speaker 1: most famous uh FaceTime we've seen? Is it? It's gonna
- 34:54Speaker 1: be Elton John right on a housewife show? I don't know,
- 34:59Speaker 1: I can't remember. I mean, did they become more famous
- 35:01Speaker 1: than Elton John? Was Lady Gaga on Beverly Hills one season?
- 35:08Speaker 1: Or did they just do that? So they did a
- 35:10Speaker 1: music video? And then um, we had um who was
- 35:15Speaker 1: at the Atlanta cardiv I can't remember, but I mean
- 35:19Speaker 1: I think that's just you know, Diana's reminding. Uh. And
- 35:25Speaker 1: then Dered is Dreed is moving story along this episode.
- 35:29Speaker 1: She starts saying, Dered says Kathy called her and pretty
- 35:34Speaker 1: much admitted her behavior and isn't proud of it, and
- 35:39Speaker 1: then it's more about Kyle than anyone else. And then
- 35:45Speaker 1: everybody kind of agrees that they said Kathy is coming
- 35:48Speaker 1: to this event. Even Erica says, well, I never heard
- 35:52Speaker 1: she wasn't coming, and Garcella let me know she wasn't coming,
- 35:55Speaker 1: So once again things are not clear with Kathy. Um.
- 36:01Speaker 1: Then Renna says, did Kathy try to silence me? Is
- 36:06Speaker 1: it veiled threats? You know, I don't do well with those,
- 36:10Speaker 1: and she reads the text the no boy Now instead
- 36:13Speaker 1: of no boy now. Um says that she took ownership
- 36:18Speaker 1: and then went on Instagram Live and lied, Yeah, that
- 36:23Speaker 1: was flashback. That was like, oh, I shouldn't have done that. Yeah,
- 36:29Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's where this is getting tricky.
- 36:33Speaker 1: And you can tell that it's turkey and confusing. It
- 36:36Speaker 1: really is. You can tell the production is involved in this,
- 36:39Speaker 1: and the problem is production was not involved in what
- 36:42Speaker 1: actually happened. So now they're trying to pick up the
- 36:45Speaker 1: pieces and it's the hardest thing ever for them to
- 36:47Speaker 1: do on any show, is if stuff happens off camera
- 36:51Speaker 1: and it becomes a big storyline. They're scrambling to try
- 36:53Speaker 1: to make sense of it. So it's either like, you know,
- 36:56Speaker 1: don't talk off camera, don't be together off camera, because
- 37:00Speaker 1: then these things won't happen. But that's always how when
- 37:02Speaker 1: you're staying in a house and I've read all these
- 37:04Speaker 1: things that people thought that production was lying and that
- 37:08Speaker 1: cameras are actually up all the time in the houses. Guys,
- 37:11Speaker 1: they are not. This isn't Celebrity Big Brother like, but
- 37:14Speaker 1: Ultimate Girls Trip. They are Ultimate Girls Trip there up twenty.
- 37:18Speaker 1: That's why you saw those like late night things in
- 37:19Speaker 1: the kitchen. Oh did you see October fourteen they are
- 37:23Speaker 1: going to air the Ultimate Girls Trip for the one
- 37:25Speaker 1: that I was on, Yeah, on Bravo. So so it
- 37:30Speaker 1: was on Peacocks. So now you guys, if you didn't
- 37:32Speaker 1: have Peacock and you didn't get to see it, you'll
- 37:34Speaker 1: be able to see Ultimate Girls Trip too on on
- 37:37Speaker 1: Bravo's I get to relive that one again. Well, you
- 37:41Speaker 1: were great. I mean, you're very lovable. I know, I mean,
- 37:45Speaker 1: but you know, as everybody says, I bought it, Uh,
- 37:50Speaker 1: you are, but I mean, you know, goodness for you,
- 37:52Speaker 1: and I'm having to recap you I'll probably be the
- 37:55Speaker 1: same because Okay, no, I give you full permission to
- 37:58Speaker 1: call me an asshole. I will. There's gonna there's gonna
- 38:02Speaker 1: be a lot of moments. Oh no, they're happy to
- 38:05Speaker 1: have you back. Um, and then Dared explains to the group, um,
- 38:12Speaker 1: how it comes out that it was about Billy Jean
- 38:15Speaker 1: and guys, for those of you all that trolled me,
- 38:18Speaker 1: I hate to say it. You were right, but I've
- 38:20Speaker 1: told you so, told just so Billy Jean. It's not
- 38:27Speaker 1: we're not allowed. As Crystal would say, well, he knows
- 38:30Speaker 1: that it's problematic to request Michael Jackson right now, but
- 38:34Speaker 1: what is she a millennial? Okay, I didn't know that
- 38:38Speaker 1: it was problematic. I mean, I know that there's been
- 38:41Speaker 1: stories about what went down, but he um, I mean,
- 38:45Speaker 1: it's kind it's just another one of those things like
- 38:47Speaker 1: it's we don't know the backstory Michael Jackson. But just
- 38:52Speaker 1: of course, Crystal Scotta just it's everything to just show that.
- 38:56Speaker 1: I just I just want that more compass every single
- 39:00Speaker 1: I just want to see Kathy dancing to Billy Jane.
- 39:02Speaker 1: That's what I want to say, is that is that
- 39:04Speaker 1: the Congo line Billy Jane it's not. But then uh,
- 39:10Speaker 1: Diana goes on and says that she paid them off
- 39:13Speaker 1: for two hundred dollars and that Kathy should know better
- 39:18Speaker 1: that you gotta pay people off. And you know, I
- 39:21Speaker 1: was like, this is this conversation is going down? How fast?
- 39:24Speaker 1: But then SHERI says when she got to the hat shop,
- 39:29Speaker 1: Kathy was shaking, she was so upset. And then girl
- 39:34Speaker 1: and that she was at the hat hat shop that
- 39:37Speaker 1: was about the teal and that's why she was shaking. Yes,
- 39:40Speaker 1: remember she was so mad about the But then why
- 39:42Speaker 1: why is that so shakable? Do you think? Ultimately? If
- 39:48Speaker 1: I were to guess, and let's just remember anything, I say,
- 39:51Speaker 1: here is my opinion. I don't think she's ever been
- 39:55Speaker 1: forced to do one of those trips where she has
- 39:58Speaker 1: to go and participate in all of the things. Housewife
- 40:02Speaker 1: trips are brutal, Yeah they are. They are brutal. So
- 40:07Speaker 1: and she wasn't even participating in them. But if you're
- 40:11Speaker 1: actually full and you are non stop, and I think, yeah, no,
- 40:15Speaker 1: I agree, But what what what do you think about
- 40:17Speaker 1: the comment when Renna said that she thinks that Cathy
- 40:20Speaker 1: is jealous of the Kardashians, Well, I mean, I think
- 40:24Speaker 1: that's really true. I need to be jenerous about well.
- 40:31Speaker 1: I mean, because Chris is as famous, is almost as
- 40:34Speaker 1: famous as her daughters. Do you feel like maybe? But
- 40:38Speaker 1: do you feel like Kathy that's her goal to be
- 40:41Speaker 1: super famous? Well, do you come on a reality television
- 40:43Speaker 1: show if you don't want to be famous? Well, she's
- 40:45Speaker 1: kind of not really on a reality television show. She
- 40:47Speaker 1: just doesn't even know where she's at. I think she's like,
- 40:50Speaker 1: what we're filming? Who did you know that? You don't
- 40:56Speaker 1: think that that's you think that's the all that around? No, see,
- 41:00Speaker 1: I don't know. See, I don't know her. I met
- 41:02Speaker 1: her one time at Craig's with Nikki and they came
- 41:05Speaker 1: up and said high and that was That's my extent
- 41:07Speaker 1: of knowing her. But on the show, you know, I'm
- 41:11Speaker 1: just watching his viewer. I don't have any insight. She
- 41:13Speaker 1: just I feel like she just doesn't know where she's
- 41:15Speaker 1: at and how she got there. But obviously I don't
- 41:19Speaker 1: know everything. I mean, I think that people show what
- 41:22Speaker 1: they want to be seen on a show, But you know, you,
- 41:25Speaker 1: I don't think that there's a person that goes on
- 41:27Speaker 1: a reality television show that isn't craving fame or money. Yeah,
- 41:32Speaker 1: I'm speaking from yeah actual experience of saying yes to
- 41:36Speaker 1: something that my family was like, absolutely not, do not
- 41:40Speaker 1: go on that show. Okay, So do you think that
- 41:42Speaker 1: the problem is that Kim was Paris's friend and Kim
- 41:45Speaker 1: got famous hanging out with her When Kim's sex sex
- 41:49Speaker 1: tape was released? Do you think that has something to
- 41:51Speaker 1: do with that? I don't think so. I think there's
- 41:54Speaker 1: just so much I personally, if I were to guess,
- 41:59Speaker 1: I think that Ris car jin Chris car Jenner, there's
- 42:02Speaker 1: a good one. I'd like that Chris Jenner is just
- 42:06Speaker 1: like the mecca of managers and money and every single
- 42:10Speaker 1: one of her daughters has these huge businesses. And I
- 42:13Speaker 1: don't know if she's necessarily jealous, but I think that's
- 42:15Speaker 1: if it was coming from somebody other than Renna and
- 42:18Speaker 1: it was said with different inflection, it would be considered shade. Yeah,
- 42:22Speaker 1: but I think that we should call each other ted
- 42:24Speaker 1: right now, Tedra, Hey, ted Ra, it's the Tedra show. Um.
- 42:30Speaker 1: And then Dereed asks if it goes further than Kyle
- 42:37Speaker 1: and you see Renna say, I can't speak any further
- 42:41Speaker 1: than that. There was a barrage of I can't believe
- 42:44Speaker 1: I have to be around them. This is my show.
- 42:48Speaker 1: I will ruin Kyle's life. NBC is protecting me. Um.
- 42:55Speaker 1: And then that's when they do the flashback of Crystal
- 43:00Speaker 1: and she says, Um. They say, who do you believe?
- 43:06Speaker 1: And they actually break it to hear production ask her
- 43:10Speaker 1: and you know, we all know she saw the beginning
- 43:13Speaker 1: of the breakdown happen at the club. She's like, I
- 43:20Speaker 1: believe Kathy. I'm like, if you're Pinocchio, you chattered the camera,
- 43:26Speaker 1: like like, it's fine, protect your friends, do whatever. But
- 43:35Speaker 1: you know, not everybody can agree on these Housewives shows.
- 43:38Speaker 1: If everybody agreed, then we wouldn't have a show. But
- 43:41Speaker 1: I think there's a way to say to get if
- 43:45Speaker 1: if if you're trying to prove your point and protect
- 43:47Speaker 1: your person without one million percent calling somebody else a liar.
- 43:51Speaker 1: I can't believe that they said, like actually said like
- 43:53Speaker 1: Bravo and NBC. I think it's the only way they
- 43:56Speaker 1: could get her. I think, yeah, it had to been
- 43:58Speaker 1: because you know, you didn't really like breaking the fourth
- 44:00Speaker 1: wall lot and talking about the network and that that
- 44:04Speaker 1: to me was a little shocking. Yeah, I think that's
- 44:07Speaker 1: I mean, that's what happens when things happen off camera,
- 44:09Speaker 1: and I think ultimately the extent of what happened is
- 44:14Speaker 1: why it's you know, we are where we are right now.
- 44:26Speaker 1: But how do you feel about um Cathy's apology to Kyle? Do?
- 44:31Speaker 1: Do you were you okay with that? Well? I think
- 44:33Speaker 1: when Kathy comes into the house, I mean she's obviously coming,
- 44:38Speaker 1: and you know she rips a flower off when she
- 44:41Speaker 1: arrives that she's wearing the same piece shirt she woren't.
- 44:44Speaker 1: I almost died and fell off my chair when she
- 44:46Speaker 1: ripped the flower out of her flower pot. And then
- 44:49Speaker 1: she's like, brought it, come in, I come in peace
- 44:51Speaker 1: from the ponder rosa and cart rat. I'm like what
- 44:54Speaker 1: that was that? That That was bizarre? Yeah, and then she
- 45:00Speaker 1: left she did the same thing, Oh Kyle, I love
- 45:03Speaker 1: these flowers. So yeah, I think it's it goes back
- 45:07Speaker 1: and you could see her personality actually shift, like when
- 45:11Speaker 1: you could tell like I don't necessarily have the ability
- 45:15Speaker 1: to shift myself if I'm annoyed or if I'm upset,
- 45:18Speaker 1: or if I'm gonna cry or I'm gonna yell. Yeah,
- 45:20Speaker 1: it is what it is. I can't go back and
- 45:22Speaker 1: forth that quickly. So I think that's where we see
- 45:25Speaker 1: that she is aware of what she's doing. Um. But
- 45:28Speaker 1: I thought it was hilarious though. I'm like, oh my god,
- 45:30Speaker 1: this woman is so oblivious to what's going on. Oh
- 45:32Speaker 1: look at these flowers, Kyle, They're beautiful. I could see
- 45:35Speaker 1: her grabbing the whole plot taking it home. Yeah. I
- 45:38Speaker 1: mean I thought the apology originally when it was to
- 45:40Speaker 1: Kyle was I was happy with it. I was happy.
- 45:45Speaker 1: Kind it came in and it's like a tornado. But
- 45:48Speaker 1: even before it happened, I mean, you could see like
- 45:52Speaker 1: she she's taking ownership for saying, you know, awful things, um,
- 45:59Speaker 1: but then also still saying things that you know are
- 46:02Speaker 1: gonna Probably would you say prior to the reunion filming,
- 46:07Speaker 1: because I can imagine the reunions probably horrible on both
- 46:10Speaker 1: of them, Kathy and Kyle. Did they come to a
- 46:13Speaker 1: place where the they were okay in the relationship. I
- 46:17Speaker 1: don't know, um, but I can't imagine because you know,
- 46:21Speaker 1: during the reunion with a couple of weeks ago, they
- 46:23Speaker 1: had to have brought up all that crop. And it's
- 46:26Speaker 1: also after seeing this, and I do think it's hard.
- 46:31Speaker 1: I can't imagine it being family because of course you
- 46:34Speaker 1: want to protect your family and you want two, but
- 46:38Speaker 1: you also you know that you know there are things
- 46:42Speaker 1: being talked about, and I think it's only going to
- 46:43Speaker 1: get worse as we see for the scenes for next week. Um,
- 46:47Speaker 1: but you start to already see Kathy start to say
- 46:49Speaker 1: things like, oh, I didn't like the jokes being made
- 46:51Speaker 1: about me with my clothes or you know those kind
- 46:55Speaker 1: of things. That was and that's why she was screaming
- 46:58Speaker 1: and seeing red at the club up and Kathleen mostly
- 47:02Speaker 1: sort of said what she said at the house has
- 47:05Speaker 1: two glasses of wine and altitude, and I felt like
- 47:09Speaker 1: those were excuses though, that's what I'm saying. So there's
- 47:11Speaker 1: parts of the apology to Kyle that I really like,
- 47:14Speaker 1: when and you can see Kyle's like breaking down, and
- 47:18Speaker 1: when she says that mom would be proud of you
- 47:19Speaker 1: and I'm proud of you, like Kyle needs to hear
- 47:22Speaker 1: those things. I mean, what I think we forget is
- 47:24Speaker 1: they don't both of their parents have passed. That's hard.
- 47:28Speaker 1: It's hard and their family and they their family. You
- 47:31Speaker 1: don't want to do this on National TV with your
- 47:33Speaker 1: family I definitely wouldn't. And I think what she says
- 47:37Speaker 1: is like, I mean, you we have to remember and
- 47:39Speaker 1: flash back to like the tumultuous years that they've had
- 47:43Speaker 1: in the past that we've we've seen play out on
- 47:46Speaker 1: the press, and so I think every time you forgive somebody,
- 47:49Speaker 1: whether it's your husband, your sister, your friend, whomever, it
- 47:54Speaker 1: it just is another Like yeah, no, I agree, it's
- 47:58Speaker 1: so it has to add up. But then Kyle tells
- 48:01Speaker 1: her that Rena is on the way over and that's
- 48:05Speaker 1: when she says, you know, Kathy, you've got to, you know,
- 48:08Speaker 1: really take ownership because they're trained assassins. Um I don't. Honestly,
- 48:21Speaker 1: I don't know how I completely feel about Rena's conversation
- 48:25Speaker 1: with Kathy. I felt like she did more damaged in
- 48:32Speaker 1: that situation than good. Like I said earlier, I know
- 48:36Speaker 1: where she's coming from, but I felt like they just
- 48:39Speaker 1: got to a place where you know, they were hugging,
- 48:41Speaker 1: they were hugging it out, they were crying, and then
- 48:44Speaker 1: she came in. It was just Pope, Pope, Pope poke
- 48:46Speaker 1: and just made things. I mean, it made great TV,
- 48:49Speaker 1: but you know, it's hard for me after how Renn
- 48:52Speaker 1: has acted this entire season to look at Kathy and said, Kathy,
- 48:57Speaker 1: you're not going to get away with us. Yeah, I
- 49:00Speaker 1: mean that does that to me? Was like if it
- 49:02Speaker 1: would have came from anybody else, anybody, it would mean
- 49:06Speaker 1: because to eat or anybody, people would probably like, I mean,
- 49:11Speaker 1: imagine if it came from Garcella or Sutton. Yeah, it wouldn't.
- 49:14Speaker 1: It would have been different. It would have been different. Yeah.
- 49:18Speaker 1: But I think what we have to remember going into this,
- 49:21Speaker 1: and this isn't me having Renna's back, It's just me
- 49:25Speaker 1: pointing it out. Renna didn't leave the club because she
- 49:28Speaker 1: had it out for Kathy. She left the club because
- 49:32Speaker 1: she wanted to protect Kathy from stranger seeing her having
- 49:36Speaker 1: meltdown on her sister in the club. So the meltdown
- 49:40Speaker 1: started in the club and the club that's when she
- 49:43Speaker 1: was saying changing at Kyle and and other people. That's
- 49:48Speaker 1: when Diana said she paid off the guy and Bobba.
- 49:51Speaker 1: You know, all of that happened at the club. So
- 49:54Speaker 1: Renna wasn't. Remember this is off camera, so we can
- 49:57Speaker 1: say as much as you want, but Renna wasn't trying
- 49:59Speaker 1: to create net a scene moment. In the moment of
- 50:02Speaker 1: taking her out of the club. She's simply saying the
- 50:03Speaker 1: same way she took Erica out when Eric was I
- 50:08Speaker 1: and I get it, like I do see both sides.
- 50:10Speaker 1: But unfortunately, when you've had so many bad moments all
- 50:15Speaker 1: season long, it just falls flat, it doesn't It falls like, oh,
- 50:19Speaker 1: you're just being mean again. I mean, because this part
- 50:21Speaker 1: was still pretty good. Like Kathy apologized to Renna and
- 50:24Speaker 1: says she's really sensitive because of her mom. Then Kathy says,
- 50:29Speaker 1: I don't have a temper, and then Renna says, well,
- 50:31Speaker 1: what would you call this? And Kathy says, losing my temper.
- 50:35Speaker 1: And then this is where I feel like it gets
- 50:37Speaker 1: a little tricky. Renna says, I think you may need help,
- 50:40Speaker 1: and Kathy said, I think you can be very unkind too.
- 50:44Speaker 1: And then Kathy says a friend of mine is has
- 50:48Speaker 1: cancer and it starts crying, and Renna says, I understand
- 50:52Speaker 1: the pain. And then you can just see them back
- 50:55Speaker 1: and forth, and you see two highly emotional people that
- 50:59Speaker 1: right now are keep bring their ship together, starting to
- 51:02Speaker 1: trigger one another. And then they flash back to Renna
- 51:09Speaker 1: getting you know, smashing the the glass on Kim and
- 51:14Speaker 1: doing all that. So then people in their minds are going, well, yeah,
- 51:17Speaker 1: Renna has done these things. But what we have to
- 51:20Speaker 1: also keep in mind, yes, it's never okay to smash
- 51:23Speaker 1: a glass. Renna was being provoked in that moment with Kim,
- 51:28Speaker 1: I know, and that's the beauty of editing, the beauty
- 51:31Speaker 1: of editing, right, But Kathy was not being provoked by
- 51:34Speaker 1: the women. Nobody was coming after. Kathy says, it's just
- 51:38Speaker 1: freaking messy, and I think that you're gonna have people split. Yeah,
- 51:42Speaker 1: I mean, right, my pasty. Kathy kept it cool, and
- 51:45Speaker 1: that's something that I'm trying to learn to do. And
- 51:48Speaker 1: it's not in my nature. Like if I get mad,
- 51:50Speaker 1: I blow up and I will scream, I will yell,
- 51:53Speaker 1: and then your message doesn't come across well and then
- 51:57Speaker 1: you just like the crazy asshole that is going after
- 52:00Speaker 1: Betty when you actually have a good message. But if
- 52:03Speaker 1: you do it like Cathy was very calm and very cool.
- 52:06Speaker 1: She just like gave the look like like make it,
- 52:11Speaker 1: make it stop, Kyle, Kyle um. But I mean, it
- 52:19Speaker 1: was a hard scene to watch all in all. There's
- 52:22Speaker 1: a lot of fan thoughts though, hold on, we missed
- 52:25Speaker 1: a scene. We did, Yeah, but we can just go
- 52:28Speaker 1: through quickly. A scene that wasn't hard to watch that
- 52:30Speaker 1: I actually enjoyed watching was the scene UM between Sutton
- 52:34Speaker 1: and Erica where they had Pope eyes and iced tea. Okay,
- 52:38Speaker 1: I was dead that she had her fine china and
- 52:41Speaker 1: she bought popeyes, which, by the way, looked amazing. It's
- 52:44Speaker 1: so good. I've been wanting a biscuit ever since. Biscuits
- 52:48Speaker 1: are my favorite favorite. UM. Then would they showed the
- 52:53Speaker 1: season finale which there's a Birkin party, um, and then
- 52:59Speaker 1: Renna starts telling Garcel and then this is where you
- 53:01Speaker 1: see that this is start. Now you see Kyle has
- 53:05Speaker 1: come to the place of protecting Kathy and her hurt,
- 53:09Speaker 1: you know, like she's putting aside her hurt. In my opinion,
- 53:12Speaker 1: I'm just by watching UM that Kyle is uncomfortable that
- 53:16Speaker 1: the girls are talking about it. And then they say
- 53:19Speaker 1: every details leaked to the press. And then Crystal says,
- 53:23Speaker 1: what is the motive? Who leaks it? Who leaks it?
- 53:27Speaker 1: So I don't know, we gotta stay tuned. Do you
- 53:29Speaker 1: think they're going to tell us who's leaking it to
- 53:31Speaker 1: the press. I don't know, but I do know that
- 53:33Speaker 1: we saw Linnae at the pretty much party. Who Okay,
- 53:40Speaker 1: that makes sense. I mean, I don't know if that's
- 53:43Speaker 1: I'm just speculating when I saw her, because of course, yeah,
- 53:49Speaker 1: but we saw we saw a girl, Lenaie like, we
- 53:53Speaker 1: really get her a lot of shout out. Maybe we
- 53:56Speaker 1: need to have her on the pod. Um. Fan thoughts
- 54:01Speaker 1: are pretty much what we've already said. I feel like
- 54:03Speaker 1: we've talked this all through. UM. Yeah, I mean there,
- 54:09Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty much it's what we've We've pretty
- 54:12Speaker 1: much talked it through. UM. I think, well, some people
- 54:15Speaker 1: that they have a split. Some people are saying that
- 54:17Speaker 1: Cathy is very calculated, and then other people were, um,
- 54:20Speaker 1: I was pleasantly surprised at Cathy's owning her ship. Yeah,
- 54:23Speaker 1: and then there's the people saying, um, Kyle needs to
- 54:26Speaker 1: stand up for Kathy when Lisa is treating her family
- 54:29Speaker 1: that way. I think, yes, one million percent. You want
- 54:32Speaker 1: to protect your family, but once you go onto a show,
- 54:37Speaker 1: there's only so much you can protect someone when other
- 54:40Speaker 1: people are involved. I was only so never want a
- 54:44Speaker 1: best friend or a family member to come onto the
- 54:46Speaker 1: show with me. I just wouldn't. It's just it would
- 54:49Speaker 1: be too hard to navigate. Yeah, because you can't. It's impossible.
- 54:53Speaker 1: You have you're not in charge of editing, you're not
- 54:55Speaker 1: in charge of what each other says to other women.
- 54:59Speaker 1: So there's only so much you can do. And you
- 55:01Speaker 1: definitely call out people more than you would do in
- 55:04Speaker 1: your everyday life. So if your sister cousin, our best
- 55:07Speaker 1: friend was doing something you had to call him that,
- 55:10Speaker 1: that would be hard. It could be a relationship killer. Yeah,
- 55:13Speaker 1: and then you know, the next person says, does Kathy
- 55:15Speaker 1: have that much power? And b H team Rena. I mean,
- 55:18Speaker 1: I think ultimately, if I was going to have somebody
- 55:21Speaker 1: mad at me, the easier person to have mad at
- 55:24Speaker 1: you is Na than Kathy, because Kathy comes with more
- 55:28Speaker 1: family that have Yeah, Cloud, but I mean, you know,
- 55:33Speaker 1: a pretty powerful family. So yeah, I don't know, but
- 55:39Speaker 1: that is that. Um, I feel like we should wrap
- 55:44Speaker 1: for today and come back and we'll recap Salt Lake
- 55:47Speaker 1: City tomorrow. Okay, let's do it all right, Bye guys, Bye,