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Tammy Hembrow Deep Dive Episode 5: Matt’s Red Flags, Tammy’s White Dress · Outspoken the Podcast

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Speaker 1: Tammy Hembrough is Australia's most talked about influencer. At 19,
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Speaker 1: she made it big on social media when she shared
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Speaker 1: her fitness journey whilst pregnant.
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Speaker 2: This is my first vlog again, so it might be
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Speaker 2: a little bad.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's going to be boring or what,
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Speaker 3: but I hope you guys enjoy it.
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Speaker 4: Tammy's life is far from boring. The fitness influencer and
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Speaker 4: her family are Australia's answer to the Kardashians. In fact,
0:28
Speaker 4: she's even been involved in a few Kardashian scandals herself.
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Speaker 1: A model explains why she had to leave Kylie Jenner's
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Speaker 1: Los Angeles birthday party in a stretcher. By sharing her
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Speaker 1: life online, Tammy has attracted over 20 million followers and
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Speaker 1: built an empire worth $ 50 million. What has really kept
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Speaker 1: her followers glued are her romantic relationships. Over the last
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Speaker 1: 10 years, the internet has borne witness to three engagements,
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Speaker 1: three children, one epic wedding, and now a divorce. We
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Speaker 1: are journalists Amy and Kate Torber, and in this special
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Speaker 1: Outspoken series, we explore the real story behind the rise
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Speaker 1: of Tammy Hembrough. When we last left you, Matt Zukowski
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Speaker 1: had just publicly apologised to Tammy Hembrough on his podcast
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Speaker 1: for messaging another girl.
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Speaker 4: He divulged to his listeners that they were in couples counselling.
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Speaker 4: And they must have had a fantastic counselor because a
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Speaker 4: month later, they were holidaying in Bali with Tammy's ex,
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Speaker 4: Rhys Hawkins. So at this point, Rhys was living full-time
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Speaker 4: in Bali. So the trip provided him with an opportunity
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Speaker 4: to spend some time with his kids, Woof and Saskia.
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Speaker 1: And it really was the ultimate display of co-parenting with
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Speaker 1: Tammy sharing wholesome videos to her Instagram story of her, Matt, Rhys,
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Speaker 1: and the kids all hanging out together at a beach club.
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Speaker 1: I remember being so surprised when these photos popped up
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Speaker 1: and I just thought, How do Rhys and Matt get along?
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Speaker 1: How do you play this one if you're Matt? I mean,
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Speaker 1: if you're Matt, it would be super awkward. But at
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Speaker 1: that time, he was obviously really trying to impress Tammy
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Speaker 1: and win her back over. Yeah, he was probably on
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Speaker 1: his best behavior and seemingly in a bid to prove
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Speaker 1: his dedication to Tammy after the cheating rumors. He got
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Speaker 1: her name with a love heart tattooed on his hip.
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Speaker 1: to match the one Tammy got two weeks into their relationship.
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Speaker 1: So he shared the new tattoo in a photo dump
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Speaker 1: to his Instagram. I mean, it's always a great idea
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Speaker 1: to go and get inked just after a cheating scandal
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Speaker 1: to show how much you love your girlfriend.
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Speaker 2: I know.
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Speaker 1: Well, by June, wedding plans were back in full swing,
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Speaker 1: but things weren't running to plan. So influencer Sophia Begg,
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Speaker 1: also known as SofaDofa, ended up accidentally leaking the wedding
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Speaker 1: invite in her weekly YouTube vlog. So in the midst
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Speaker 1: of an unboxing, Sofa excitedly showed the camera a close-up
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Speaker 1: of the wedding invite, which gave away key details. Now,
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Speaker 1: it didn't take long for influencer watchdog account InfluencerUpdatesAU to
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Speaker 1: share a screenshot of the invite from the vlog. Amber
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Speaker 1: did quickly take it down, though, upon Matt's request. It's
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Speaker 1: likely Tammy or Matt also reached out to Sofa as
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Speaker 1: the portion of the vlog revealing the invite was swiftly deleted.
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Speaker 1: In terms of the leak, Sofa accidentally revealed that the
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Speaker 1: wedding was on the 23rd of November in Byron Bay. However, luckily,
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Speaker 1: the wedding's venue location was admitted from the invite, as
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Speaker 1: Matt had already revealed on his podcast that it was
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Speaker 1: remaining a secret until the last minute. Unfortunately for Tammy
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Speaker 1: and Matt, though, the details that were leaked was enough
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Speaker 1: information for Super Sleuths to find the online version of
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Speaker 1: the invite online. which gave even more details away. So
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Speaker 1: it included the ceremony time, dress code, where the guests
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Speaker 1: were staying, and the recovery details. Funnily enough, people were really.
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Speaker 4: Shocked by two details that actually appear on most couples'
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Speaker 4: wedding invites these days. So the first was that Tammy
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Speaker 4: and Matt were having a wishing well. So seven news
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Speaker 4: ran with the headline, Aussie AFR Rich Lister Tammy Hembrough
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Speaker 4: Worth $ 50 Million. asked for donations at her upcoming wedding
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Speaker 4: to reality star Matt Sikowsky.
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Speaker 1: They really did air dirty with the term donations. It
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Speaker 1: was blown out of proportion because the invite literally read,
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Speaker 1: your presence on our day is the greatest gift of all. However,
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Speaker 1: if you would like to gift us something, a wishing
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Speaker 1: well will be at our wedding for your contribution and
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Speaker 1: well wishes. This reminds me a bit of Khloe Kardashian's
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Speaker 1: wedding to Lamar Odom. I mean, they were worth absolute
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Speaker 1: millions and they still had a gift registry. It's not
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Speaker 1: like just because you're worth a lot of money that
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Speaker 1: no one gives you a gift for your wedding.
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Speaker 4: I think the difference with that scenario, though, is the
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Speaker 4: Kardashians and Lamar Odom probably all have really rich friends,
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Speaker 4: where I'm guessing, particularly Matt's side of the family, they're
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Speaker 4: probably not worth millions and millions of dollars. I mean,
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Speaker 4: I don't want to generalize, but I would think that
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Speaker 4: most of the people attending Tammy and Matt's wedding probably
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Speaker 4: earn a regular wage. So I think that's why people
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Speaker 4: were like, oh, why does she need the money?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but a lot of influencers were also invited that
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Speaker 1: would have been worth a pretty penny.
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Speaker 5: True.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it was absolutely fine that they
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Speaker 1: had a wishing well. I just want to know who
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Speaker 1: got the money. Like, did they split it down the line?
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Speaker 1: Did they use the money on their honeymoon? I also
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Speaker 1: want to know how much did people give them? Like,
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Speaker 1: was there just some cheeky 50 bucks going or, you know,
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Speaker 1: did people actually spend hundreds and hundreds on them?
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Speaker 4: Well, at the time there was speculation that the couple
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Speaker 4: were asking for thousands of dollars and they actually refuted
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Speaker 4: those claims on Matt's podcast. Now, the second detail that
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Speaker 4: surprised people was that the wedding was child free. So
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Speaker 4: a lot of people thought it was a.
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Speaker 1: Bit strange considering that Tammy has three children herself. I mean,
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Speaker 1: obviously her own children attended her wedding. Yeah, spoiler alert,
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Speaker 1: they were the flower girls and page boy. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I get this though.
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Speaker 4: There's a difference between having your child screaming during the
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Speaker 4: ceremony as opposed to someone else's kid. Now, in late September,
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Speaker 4: two months out from the wedding, Matt Sikowsky decided to
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Speaker 4: have his future sister-in-laws, Amy and Emily, join him on
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Speaker 4: his podcast. And I don't know what he was thinking
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Speaker 4: because it was a shit show from start to finish.
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Speaker 4: Amy and Emily iconically called Matt out during the interview.
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Speaker 1: They couldn't have made it any clearer how much they
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Speaker 1: hated him. Yeah, they literally called him an immature baby
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Speaker 1: and said that they have massive concerns about their relationship.
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Speaker 1: Emily even revealed that the Hembrough family had had a
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Speaker 1: crisis meeting after they learnt that Tammy and Matt had
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Speaker 1: planned a lope after dating for just three months. Here's
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Speaker 1: what Emily said.
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Speaker 3: When you guys said you were getting engaged, I was like,
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Speaker 3: he must be that delusional. I was really concerned because
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Speaker 3: she is like, she's spontaneous and she's a fun spirit
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Speaker 3: and she likes to do what she wants to do.
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Speaker 3: But for a guy to come in and think that's
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Speaker 3: okay when she's got a one-year-old, like I thought that
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Speaker 3: was a big red flag.
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Speaker 1: It's just interesting going back over all of these details
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Speaker 1: and being like, how did this wedding even go ahead?
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Speaker 1: Like how were Emily and Amy able to stand up
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Speaker 1: there next to Tammy and be bridesmaids? It just blows
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Speaker 1: my mind. Emily also had a serious chat to.
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Speaker 4: Matt on Mike about the importance of marriage in And
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Speaker 4: I feel like this clip is really haunting Tammy at
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Speaker 4: this point. Here's what Emily said.
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Speaker 3: I just hope you know marriage is a serious thing.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you have said that to me before.
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Speaker 3: It is actually a serious thing and, like, I hope
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Speaker 3: you don't make any mistakes. Like, I really pray and
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Speaker 3: hope that you don't do anything to hurt Tammy.
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Speaker 5: I'm not going to hurt Tammy. I have no intention
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Speaker 5: of hurting Tammy.
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Speaker 1: It's just wild listening back to this and knowing how
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Speaker 1: quickly this marriage disintegrated.
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Speaker 5: It is.
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Speaker 1: And I just love the look on Emily's face. Like
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Speaker 1: when Matt's like, I'm not going to hurt Tammy. Her
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Speaker 1: face is just like, fuck off. Like you clearly are.
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Speaker 1: I mean, how do you listen back to that and
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Speaker 1: still air this podcast? I mean, we spoke about this
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago on Outspoken's regular episode and
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Speaker 1: people were like, oh, it was clearly a publicity stunt. No,
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Speaker 1: it wasn't.
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Speaker 4: Like, Yes, okay, it did get Matt attention, but you
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Speaker 4: don't want this negative attention.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, not the right attention when you're legitimately wanting to
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Speaker 1: get married to somebody. Now, October 2024 was a massive
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Speaker 1: month for Tammy and Matt.
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Speaker 4: At the start of it, the couple created headlines for
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Speaker 4: dramatically unfollowing each other on Instagram days out from their
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Speaker 4: hens and bucks weekend. So Tammy's account actually disappeared. But
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Speaker 4: within an hour, it was back up and she was
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Speaker 4: just following one less person, her fiance.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and interestingly, at the time of the unfollowing, Matt
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Speaker 1: was visiting the markets with his sister, Emma, who also
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Speaker 1: unfollowed Tammy. Now, amid the drama going on behind the scenes,
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Speaker 1: Matt found time to post a photo to his Instagram
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Speaker 1: story of a Dash Hound merchandise store at the markets.
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Speaker 1: He wrote, what a cute dashy store. Now this post
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Speaker 1: probably seems pretty inconspicuous if you don't know the backstory,
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Speaker 1: but Matt's ex-girlfriend, Genevieve Ward, who he dated just before Tammy,
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Speaker 1: has a dash hound that he lived with and he
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Speaker 1: was quite obsessed with this dog. And they also plan
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Speaker 1: to open their own dash hound business together. So it
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Speaker 1: seemed like a pretty loaded Instagram story. to upload when
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Speaker 1: he was fighting with Tammy. Yeah, I mean, what I
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Speaker 1: took from this was he was either sending a subtle
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Speaker 1: message to Jen saying, I want to be back with you,
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Speaker 1: or he was taking a dig at Tammy because Jen
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Speaker 1: was possibly a point of contention in their relationship.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Now, despite the unfollowing, Tammy's hens and Mac's bucks went
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Speaker 4: ahead on October the 5th, 2024. Matt had a dress-up
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Speaker 4: party at Topgolf. He actually came dressed as a convict
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Speaker 4: while Tammy went for a long lunch with close friends
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Speaker 4: at a fancy house on the Gold Coast. The couple
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Speaker 4: then met up to do their joint Hux celebration at
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Speaker 4: a Palm Beach residence. And unsurprisingly, the Daily Mail sent
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Speaker 4: paps around to Tammy's event and they didn't leave disappointed.
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Speaker 4: So they managed to get photos of the couple looking
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Speaker 4: like they were having a tense conversation.
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Speaker 1: So in one photo, it looked like Tammy was crying. crying.
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Speaker 1: The Daily Mail ran with the headline, what really happened
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Speaker 1: at Tammy Hembrough's hen's party that saw her crying and
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Speaker 1: fighting with Beyonce Matt Zukowski. Now, the Daily Mail quoted
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Speaker 1: an anonymous source who said Tammy was visibly upset and
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Speaker 1: Matt was trying to comfort her, but it was clear
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Speaker 1: she didn't want his affection. The insider also claimed that
10:20
Speaker 1: they had a big blow up, which had been brewing
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Speaker 1: for a while over Tammy wanting a prenup. Look, I
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Speaker 1: just think this whole story was actually blown out of proportion.
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Speaker 1: I think what happened was the paps got a shot
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Speaker 1: of Tammy and Matt that looked bad and they ran
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Speaker 1: with it. Because when you looked a bit deeper, there
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Speaker 1: were other photos of them in the same spot laughing
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Speaker 1: and hugging each other. So yeah, I think it was
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Speaker 1: blown out of proportion. Well, particularly because they went off
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Speaker 1: and celebrated together afterwards. Tammy ended up addressing the rumours
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Speaker 1: in a TikTok video. She labelled the claims that she
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Speaker 1: and Matt were fighting over a prenup as completely and
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Speaker 1: utterly made up and said that they were in agreement
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Speaker 1: from the get-go that a prenup was needed. Here's more
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Speaker 1: of what she said.
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Speaker 2: Firstly, like, I cry at the drop of a hat. Happy, sad, excited, nervous, scared, anything, whatever.
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Speaker 2: And in those photos that they literally posted in the article,
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Speaker 2: we're literally hugging. That's, like, I just.
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Speaker 2: I just can't watch with these articles. Anyway, the article
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Speaker 2: goes on to say that the reason is because there
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Speaker 2: has been weeks of tension because Matthew will not sign
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Speaker 2: a prenuptial agreement. This could not be further from the truth.
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Speaker 2: A prenup has not once come up in argument for us.
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Speaker 2: We agreed previously. pretty much straight away that we would
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Speaker 2: get a prenup. It just seemed like a smart thing
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Speaker 2: to do for both of us. So it's like, it
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Speaker 2: wasn't something that we have ever thought about once, literally ever.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, this rumor is completely and just utterly made up.
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Speaker 2: Like it's, there is no truth to it whatsoever. So yeah,
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Speaker 2: literally not once have we ever in our entire relationship
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Speaker 2: thought about a prenup. Like that's, that's a non-issue to us.
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Speaker 2: So I don't know why it's an issue to everyone else.
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Speaker 1: Considering we are going to be going through divorce proceedings
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Speaker 1: between Matt and Tammy, it's fascinating that this is all
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Speaker 1: on the record.
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Speaker 4: It's quite funny because a lot of listeners have messaged
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Speaker 4: us saying, do you think Matt Sikowsky can take Tammy
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Speaker 4: Hembrough's fortune? I mean, we're not divorce lawyers, but I'm
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Speaker 4: pretty comforted in the fact that Tammy has publicly said
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Speaker 4: she got a prenup. Let's just hope that the terms
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Speaker 4: are good.
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Speaker 1: Now, by late October, Matt found himself at the centre
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Speaker 1: of another cheating scandal and And this one started when
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Speaker 1: Matt posted photos of himself on a private jet with
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Speaker 1: a bunch of mates en route to Sydney. So people
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Speaker 1: began speculating that Tammy had funded a weekend away for
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Speaker 1: Matt while she was away on a travel retreat with
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Speaker 1: fans in Greece. So the shit hit the fan when
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Speaker 1: photos of Matt talking to several women at a bar
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Speaker 1: in Sydney emerged on Reddit. And it didn't take long
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Speaker 1: for the Daily Mail to run with the headline, Matt
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Speaker 1: Sikowsky spotted chatting up a mystery brunette in Sydney. after
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Speaker 1: boozy private jet flight while Tammy Hembrough is away in Greece.
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Speaker 1: I'm still amazed at the Daily Mail's ability to write
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Speaker 1: such a long headline. Now, it turns out Matt was
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Speaker 1: actually on an influencer trip with a private jet company
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Speaker 1: called Flight Club. And while Matt didn't declare the partnership,
13:26
Speaker 1: he tried to tag the private jet company, but accidentally
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Speaker 1: tagged Flight Centre instead. So It turned out the women
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Speaker 1: he was photographed with were influencers invited on this trip
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Speaker 1: and not some random women he just met at a
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Speaker 1: bar in Sydney. And that is why influencers really need
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Speaker 1: to declare their partnerships because people were so confused about
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Speaker 1: what was going on. Now, Matt came out and he
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Speaker 1: denied he was flirting with the women. He commented on
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Speaker 1: a gossip forum post claiming that the women were his mates.
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Speaker 1: He said they have the same management companies who have
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Speaker 1: met at events. He added, the women are engaged and
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Speaker 1: they were talking about wedding prep and comparing proposals. Now,
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Speaker 1: one of the women featured in the Candid Snaps with Matt,
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Speaker 1: Amy Pekovic, backed up his story writing, hi, I am
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Speaker 1: one of the random girls. Matt and I have the
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Speaker 1: same agent slash management. This was a brand event mingling
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Speaker 1: with other people that were also invited is normal behavior.
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Speaker 1: Y'all need to chill out.
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Speaker 4: Lifestyle influencer, Olivia White, who was also on the trip
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Speaker 4: defended Matt's behavior saying, Vision she had shared from the
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Speaker 4: event was used to build a false narrative. Now, if
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Speaker 4: things couldn't get any worse, just weeks out from the wedding,
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Speaker 4: Megan Pastetto dropped a bombshell expose about Matt on her podcast,
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Speaker 4: So Dramatic. In the episode, she alleged Matt was a
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Speaker 4: serial cheat who auditioned for Love Island UK while he
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Speaker 4: was still dating his ex-girlfriend, Genevieve Ward. Megan also alleged she.
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Speaker 1: Had spoken to sources that claimed Matt was still in
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Speaker 1: a relationship with his long-term girlfriend, Genevieve, when he started
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Speaker 1: dating Tammy.
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Speaker 4: Now, that source turned out to be Genevieve herself. At
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Speaker 4: the time, she didn't want to be identified because she
15:04
Speaker 4: claimed Matt threatened to sue her for defamation. Recently, though,
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Speaker 4: she's given Megan quotes on the record. Now, Matt and
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Speaker 4: Jen's relationship timeline has always been a bit murky. Unlike
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Speaker 4: the high-profile relationships we're used to seeing Matt in, Jen
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Speaker 4: is what you would consider a normie girlfriend, and I
15:21
Speaker 4: hate using that term, but what I mean by that
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Speaker 4: is She didn't have a public profile nor tried to
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Speaker 4: build one off the back of Matt. Now, they went
15:28
Speaker 4: public with their relationship in August 2021, but in May 2023,
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Speaker 4: Matt announced that Jen had broken up with him on
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Speaker 4: his podcast. At the time, he explained they were still
15:39
Speaker 4: in contact, but the relationship was over. According to Matt,
15:43
Speaker 4: they had been giving their relationship another go since being
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Speaker 4: on and off during 2022.
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Speaker 1: Here's what he said.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Jen and I have broken up. Yeah, it's sad.
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Speaker 5: I guess we broke up for pretty much the reason–
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Speaker 5: we've been on and off since late last year. We
16:02
Speaker 5: were giving it another go. I crossed boundaries that I
16:08
Speaker 5: should not. I disrespected her in ways that– look, I'm
16:12
Speaker 5: not proud of it. And when I– actually, it sounds
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Speaker 5: like I cheated on her or something. Nothing like that happened.
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Speaker 5: It was nothing like that. It was more just– In
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Speaker 5: a way, I wasn't loyal to her in situations that
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Speaker 5: I should have been. I definitely lost my way. I
16:26
Speaker 5: think that I was brought into cultures that are a
16:31
Speaker 5: younger version of me and I should have just been
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Speaker 5: more true to who I am now and not done
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Speaker 5: that stuff. Obviously, it was too much for both of us,
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Speaker 5: mostly her, and she broke up with me.
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Speaker 1: Matt also revealed since the breakup that he'd moved back
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Speaker 1: in with his mum but remained on good terms with Jen.
16:51
Speaker 1: Jen's story was of course different to Matt's so she
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Speaker 1: claimed she broke up with Matt because he auditioned for
16:56
Speaker 1: Love Island UK behind her back. She also claimed that
17:00
Speaker 1: Matt's podcast co-host Anna McAvoy encouraged Matt to audition for
17:04
Speaker 1: the show behind her back because she allegedly thought it
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Speaker 1: would help benefit their podcast.
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Speaker 4: And according to Jen, the couple continued to date until
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Speaker 4: September 2023. In fact, they had allegedly agreed to be
17:16
Speaker 4: exclusive and were even starting a Dash Hound business together,
17:19
Speaker 4: all while Matt was allegedly dating Tammy behind Jen's back. Now,
17:24
Speaker 4: that Dash Hound post Matt made when he and Tammy
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Speaker 4: unfollowed each other just seems even more sus.
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Speaker 5: Doesn't it?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it really does. Now, Jen was absolutely shocked when
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Speaker 1: the photos of Tammy and Matt at the hotel went viral.
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Speaker 1: She told Megan Bastetto that Matt would visit her at
17:38
Speaker 1: work every second day. They would have lunch together. He
17:41
Speaker 1: sent her flowers. Apparently, they'd also have sleepovers, go on dates,
17:45
Speaker 1: go on holidays, and even spend every weekend together. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I can see why she was so shocked. Where did
17:51
Speaker 1: he find the time? I suppose Tammy being on the
17:53
Speaker 1: Gold Coast would have helped. Now, according to.
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Speaker 4: Jen, four weeks into Matt's relationship with Tammy, he was
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Speaker 4: calling Jen nonstop and on her doorstep begging for her
18:03
Speaker 4: to take him back. And it got to a point
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Speaker 4: where Jen ended up blocking his number and also Matt
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Speaker 4: on all social media.
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Speaker 1: It gets worse.
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Speaker 4: The date of Tammy and Matt's anniversary is the same
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Speaker 4: date as Jen's birthday. And why this matters is because
18:17
Speaker 4: in August 2023, Matt and Jen celebrated her birthday together
18:22
Speaker 4: with a staycation at a hotel. Side note, it's claimed
18:25
Speaker 4: Jen paid for the hotel room. Jen was then shocked
18:28
Speaker 4: to discover Tammy posting about her and Matt's one-year anniversary
18:33
Speaker 4: on her birthday.
18:34
Speaker 1: The following year. I mean, that really indicates to me
18:37
Speaker 1: that perhaps Matt was using Tammy for fame. Surely that
18:40
Speaker 1: was one of the big motivators. Oh, definitely. Particularly when
18:44
Speaker 1: Jen revealed that Matt told his friends that he still
18:47
Speaker 1: loved her, but that dating Tammy.
18:48
Speaker 4: Would be huge for his career. It also ties in
18:51
Speaker 4: with the claims of Matt having a PR relationship with
18:54
Speaker 4: Keira Maguire, as well as him auditioning for Love Island
18:57
Speaker 4: while he was still dating Jen. Also, when Matt was
19:00
Speaker 4: on Love Island- He went on and on about his
19:03
Speaker 4: type being brunettes with big boobs, two attributes that Jen has.
19:08
Speaker 4: While Tammy and Kira, they're both blonde. I mean, they've
19:11
Speaker 4: got big boobs, but, you know, only one of the
19:12
Speaker 4: two things that Matt is so strongly for.
19:15
Speaker 1: It's such an ick for me when men point out that, oh,
19:17
Speaker 1: their type is just big boobs. You're just like, okay.
19:21
Speaker 1: I know it's a thing on Love Island where they
19:23
Speaker 1: all talk about their types, but at least be like Deshawn,
19:27
Speaker 1: who's on the current series, and be like, oh, I.
19:29
Speaker 4: Love– Someone that's attractive on the inside and out. Like
19:32
Speaker 4: come up with something a.
19:33
Speaker 1: Little bit better with like, oh, big boobs and brown hair.
19:35
Speaker 1: What the hell?
19:36
Speaker 4: Now, shortly after the episode went live, it was taken down.
19:40
Speaker 4: And Megan Passetto claims that she was forced to remove
19:43
Speaker 4: the episode. On Instagram, she wrote, my Matt zakowski episode
19:47
Speaker 4: has been taken down by the powers that be if
19:49
Speaker 4: you would like to listen to these episodes in the
19:52
Speaker 4: time being until i sort things out you will have
19:54
Speaker 4: to listen to them on patreon now jen was quick
19:57
Speaker 4: to respond writing underneath megan's post trying to silence you
20:00
Speaker 4: like he did me He knows I have the print screens.
20:03
Speaker 4: And she added a crying with laughter emoji.
20:06
Speaker 1: Megan quickly reshared Jen's comment to her Instagram story and
20:09
Speaker 1: added a poll asking her followers if she should publish
20:12
Speaker 1: the evidence. Their response was a resounding yes. Still waiting
20:17
Speaker 1: for that evidence. I wonder if it will come. Now,
20:20
Speaker 1: after obviously being bombarded with questions, Megan followed up with
20:23
Speaker 1: another post that read, for the record, the episodes were
20:25
Speaker 1: not taken down by me and not taken down because
20:28
Speaker 1: of lawyers or defamation. I can confidently back all claims
20:31
Speaker 1: in both episodes up with evidence. I will explain why
20:34
Speaker 1: these have been taken down in due time, but it
20:37
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with me not being able to
20:39
Speaker 1: back up the claims in the episode. Now, it turns
20:42
Speaker 1: out that Megan and Matt both were signed to the
20:44
Speaker 1: same podcast network. And Megan recently claimed in an episode
20:48
Speaker 1: of So Dramatic that Matt got her fired from the
20:51
Speaker 1: network for doing the episode on him. It was an
20:54
Speaker 1: interesting move by the podcast network because Megan Posteto's podcast,
20:58
Speaker 1: continuously outranks Matt's. And the fact that Megan had been
21:04
Speaker 1: working with his podcast network way longer than Matt, he
21:07
Speaker 1: only recently signed to that network, clearly off the back
21:10
Speaker 1: of his relationship with Tammy Hanbright. I don't think they
21:12
Speaker 1: would have been interested otherwise. Well, it'd be interesting to
21:14
Speaker 1: see what happens to the podcast now. Now, Matt didn't
21:17
Speaker 1: publicly acknowledge the episode. Instead, he stoked the flames on TikTok,
21:21
Speaker 1: uploading a video with Tammy with the caption, imagine talking
21:24
Speaker 1: shit about us when we just at sushi train like this. Now,
21:28
Speaker 1: someone actually tagged Outspoken in it and wrote, Outspoken, we're
21:31
Speaker 1: looking at you. Matt replied saying, there was a couple
21:34
Speaker 1: of them going around trying to make a dollar off
21:36
Speaker 1: of us. We ended up replying, we're looking forward to
21:39
Speaker 1: the wedding of the year, which we really were at
21:41
Speaker 1: the time. I found Matt's commentary rather ironic when you
21:45
Speaker 1: consider everything that's gone down. Now, two weeks out from
21:49
Speaker 1: the big day, Matt really began milking the wedding for
21:52
Speaker 1: content and sponsorship deals. Not only did Tammy make another
21:55
Speaker 1: appearance on his podcast to talk about the big day,
21:58
Speaker 1: but he also shared back-to-back sponsored reels using the wedding
22:02
Speaker 1: as a hook. The first one was an ad for OxyShred.
22:06
Speaker 1: To do it justice, let's throw to some of the ad.
22:10
Speaker 5: The only thing that I've been stressed about leading into
22:12
Speaker 5: my wedding is my WedShred. No, jokes aside, I've been
22:15
Speaker 5: using OxyShred now for a couple of months. I knew
22:18
Speaker 5: this would be my go-to when trying to lean up
22:20
Speaker 5: for the big day.
22:23
Speaker 4: Laugh like was he referring to the stress of all
22:26
Speaker 4: the speculation that had been happening or just wedding planning
22:29
Speaker 4: now the second reel was part of an ongoing partnership
22:32
Speaker 4: with a numbing cream brand ironically matt did an ad
22:36
Speaker 4: with the company earlier in the year to help him
22:38
Speaker 4: get through the process of removing a tattoo of genevieve's
22:41
Speaker 4: name from his ass this time around he used it
22:44
Speaker 4: to numb his skin before getting a tattoo dedicated to
22:47
Speaker 4: the wedding i mean clearly he doesn't learn from his
22:51
Speaker 4: mistakes The tattoo in question said, always and forever, and
22:54
Speaker 4: was written in Tony Hembrough's handwriting.
22:56
Speaker 1: I mean, at least there's another opportunity for Numbit to
22:58
Speaker 1: be a sponsor when he has that one removed. Oh,
23:01
Speaker 1: there's just ongoing deals here. Let's throw to the ad.
23:04
Speaker 5: I wanted to get a tattoo to dedicate my love
23:07
Speaker 5: to my fiancé, but the pain I was not about.
23:10
Speaker 5: I wanted to enjoy this sentimental moment and not think
23:13
Speaker 5: about the sting of the tattoo, so I have partnered
23:16
Speaker 5: with Numbit Numbing Cream, which is number one numbing cream
23:19
Speaker 5: in Australia pharmacies.
23:22
Speaker 4: Side note, Tammy Hembrough has the most gorgeous handwriting I've
23:25
Speaker 4: ever seen.
23:25
Speaker 1: She really does. It's on par with Meghan Markle's. Now,
23:28
Speaker 1: the wedding content from Matt continued. He shared a reel
23:31
Speaker 1: of his final farewell with Tammy before the big day.
23:34
Speaker 1: And someone commented, you're poo, Matt. And weren't you trying
23:37
Speaker 1: to get back with Genevieve while you were seeing Tammy? LMAO.
23:40
Speaker 1: We've seen her screenshots. Now, Matt responded, what screenshots? Two
23:45
Speaker 1: people talking about me? Anyone can do that. Show me
23:48
Speaker 1: messages from my number dated, please. Won't find it because
23:51
Speaker 1: it never happened.
23:54
Speaker 4: Now, on the 23rd of November, 2024, Tammy Hembrough married
23:58
Speaker 4: Matt Sikowsky in Byron Bay. The wedding took place at.
24:02
Speaker 1: A French-inspired luxury estate on the outskirts of Byron Bay.
24:06
Speaker 1: And controversially, the Daily Mail were the first to publish
24:10
Speaker 1: photos of the newlyweds after flying a drone over the ceremony.
24:14
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not totally surprising that the paparazzi were
24:18
Speaker 1: able to track down this wedding considering the sofa dover
24:20
Speaker 1: accidentally leaked the invite months earlier. Yeah, so the Daily
24:23
Speaker 1: Mail ended up getting aerial shots of the ceremony, which
24:26
Speaker 1: immediately got people talking due to the strange setup.
24:30
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was pretty unusual because Tammy and Matt did
24:32
Speaker 4: their vows standing on the top row of these grand
24:35
Speaker 4: stairs in front of the chateau. And it looked absolutely stunning.
24:39
Speaker 4: But the issue was that the bridal party and guests
24:42
Speaker 4: were so far away from the action. So the bridesmaids
24:45
Speaker 4: and groomsmen stood on a lower level far away. And
24:49
Speaker 4: as for the guests, they were even further away, seated
24:52
Speaker 4: within the swimming pool enclosure that was fenced off within
24:56
Speaker 4: a hedge. The guests also weren't even facing the bride
24:59
Speaker 4: and groom. They were seated either side of this pool
25:01
Speaker 4: facing each other. So they had to crane their necks
25:05
Speaker 4: to watch the ceremony. Then there were the unlucky guests
25:08
Speaker 4: who had to stand behind the seated guests. As for
25:12
Speaker 4: Tammy's kids, they were seated within this pool area despite
25:15
Speaker 4: the fact that Saskia and Posey were flower girls and
25:17
Speaker 4: Wolf was a page boy.
25:18
Speaker 1: I saw a video with Matt and Tammy after the
25:20
Speaker 1: wedding and they were both saying actually everyone had a
25:23
Speaker 1: great view of the wedding. It just looked weird from
25:25
Speaker 1: the aerial shots. I wonder if the guests actually back
25:29
Speaker 1: up what Tammy and Matt said or if they were
25:31
Speaker 1: just being polite. There were also a lot of questions
25:33
Speaker 1: around how Tammy actually walked down the aisle because the
25:36
Speaker 1: pool was in the direct path.
25:38
Speaker 4: I thought with the budget Tammy had, she may have
25:41
Speaker 4: had a Perspect runway so she could have walked across
25:44
Speaker 4: water to get to Matt. However, she ended up walking
25:47
Speaker 4: down one of the sides of the pool and Tammy
25:50
Speaker 4: also had to do the walk by herself because her dad,
25:52
Speaker 4: Mark Hembrough, missed the ceremony at the last minute after
25:56
Speaker 4: pulling a ligament in his leg.
25:57
Speaker 1: At the hairdresser.
25:58
Speaker 4: So he'd gone to get a haircut the day of
26:00
Speaker 4: the wedding and felt something snap in his leg and
26:03
Speaker 4: ended up in hospital. He arrived at the reception on crutches.
26:07
Speaker 1: Maybe that was an omen. It was like a warning.
26:10
Speaker 4: So many omens. Now, as for Tammy's dress, she wore three.
26:14
Speaker 4: So the ceremony dress was the most iconic of her looks.
26:17
Speaker 4: It was a Vera Wang blush pink gown. It had
26:20
Speaker 4: a corset bodice with an elaborate chill train and a
26:23
Speaker 4: very long ivory veil. It's believed the dress was gifted
26:27
Speaker 4: to Tammy by Vera Wang. So back in February, she
26:30
Speaker 4: shared vision of her trying on wedding dresses at the
26:32
Speaker 4: designer's Sydney store, despite declaring a month earlier on Matt's
26:36
Speaker 4: podcast that she'd already bought a dress.
26:38
Speaker 1: Now, unexpectedly, the dress that Tammy ended up choosing from
26:41
Speaker 1: Vera Wang was actually off the rack. It wasn't a
26:44
Speaker 1: custom gown. And the dress was called the Vera dress.
26:48
Speaker 1: And it's five years old. It retails for $ 12, 800. And
26:51
Speaker 1: it was actually the last dress that Tammy tried on
26:55
Speaker 1: at her appointment. And as soon as she put it on,
26:57
Speaker 1: she said she felt like a princess. She also really
27:00
Speaker 1: liked the fact that it wasn't white. She said it
27:02
Speaker 1: appealed to her because her relationship with Matsukowski wasn't a
27:06
Speaker 1: conventional one. Overall, the dress seemed to be a big hit.
27:10
Speaker 1: Many of our listeners at the time said she looked
27:12
Speaker 1: straight out of the Barbie movie and that she'd never
27:14
Speaker 1: looked better. As for her other wedding looks, she finally
27:18
Speaker 1: had her white moment wearing the Camille gown from Vivienne Westwood.
27:21
Speaker 1: As for her third look, it was designed by Carla
27:24
Speaker 1: Gill and featured chantilly lace detailing and a long Georgette
27:28
Speaker 1: side train. Now, if anyone likes these wedding dresses, as
27:31
Speaker 1: we mentioned on our podcast this week, Tammy is currently
27:34
Speaker 1: selling them. You just have to hit her up via DM. Well,
27:37
Speaker 1: one thing that's going to take longer to get rid
27:39
Speaker 1: of is the wedding tattoo. So Tammy joined Matt in
27:42
Speaker 1: getting a custom tattoo for their marriage. She got their
27:45
Speaker 1: wedding date tattooed on her wrist.
27:47
Speaker 4: This is the deal that just keeps on giving to
27:49
Speaker 4: this numbing cream company. I wonder if they'll ditch Matt
27:52
Speaker 4: and sponsor Tammy. That's at least two tattoos she'll need
27:55
Speaker 4: removed now from her body.
27:56
Speaker 1: This is why I can't stand when people get their
27:58
Speaker 1: partner's names tattooed on them. You just never know what
28:01
Speaker 1: is going to happen.
28:02
Speaker 4: I mean, you'd hope getting a tattoo to celebrate your
28:05
Speaker 4: wedding would be a surefire thing that you wouldn't have
28:07
Speaker 4: to get that removed. I mean, in saying that, isn't
28:10
Speaker 4: the stat like over 50% of marriages end in divorce?
28:13
Speaker 4: How many end in tattoos? But with Tammy, I mean,
28:18
Speaker 4: she got the first one two weeks into their relationship.
28:20
Speaker 1: What was she thinking? Well, maybe because she had that one,
28:22
Speaker 1: she was like, fuck it. I'm just going to go
28:24
Speaker 1: all in. Now getting back to the wedding, there were
28:27
Speaker 1: a bevy of influences in attendance, including Ruby Tuesday Matthews,
28:31
Speaker 1: Em Davies was also there and she broke the no
28:34
Speaker 1: kid rule by bringing her newborn daughter Isla. Lily Brown
28:37
Speaker 1: was also there and of course Matt's co-host Anna McAvoy. Yeah,
28:41
Speaker 1: Anna ended up being accused of trying to steal the
28:44
Speaker 1: spotlight from Tammy because she rocked up in a navy
28:47
Speaker 1: gown with a plunging neckline and a thigh high split. Ironically,
28:51
Speaker 1: Tammy was accused of doing the same thing at Anna
28:53
Speaker 1: McAvoy's wedding earlier in the year. The Daily Mail always
28:56
Speaker 1: accused someone of trying to steal the frigging spotlight at
28:59
Speaker 1: a wedding. It's ridiculous. Now, Sofa Dover was a notable absentee.
29:03
Speaker 1: As we touched on earlier, she was the reason the
29:05
Speaker 1: wedding invite got leaked. Tammy and Matt actually spoke about
29:09
Speaker 1: having to cut the guest list back on Matt's podcast.
29:11
Speaker 1: I wonder if she was one of the first to
29:13
Speaker 1: go she ended up attending a friend's 21st instead that weekend. Now,
29:18
Speaker 1: a lot of people were dying to see the official
29:20
Speaker 1: wedding photos from the day, but we were left waiting
29:23
Speaker 1: because Tammy and Matt's post was delayed due to them
29:26
Speaker 1: signing an exclusive deal with Vogue.
29:28
Speaker 4: I mean, thank goodness for the Daily Mail being the
29:30
Speaker 4: pricks that they are and flying that drone over so
29:32
Speaker 4: we got the unofficial photos from the day. But I
29:35
Speaker 4: really did want to see the professional photos because there
29:36
Speaker 4: was a lot of chat about the Daily Mail turning
29:39
Speaker 4: up the saturation and Tammy's dress not being as pink
29:42
Speaker 4: as it appeared in the drone shots.
29:43
Speaker 1: Can you imagine how pissed off Vogue would have been
29:45
Speaker 1: that they got those shots? Oh, they would have been
29:48
Speaker 1: so mad. In saying that though, they did get all
29:51
Speaker 1: the details thanks to an in-depth interview that they did
29:54
Speaker 1: with Tammy. They ended up sharing 63 photos from the
29:57
Speaker 1: big day as well. Another part of the deal with
30:00
Speaker 1: Vogue was the announcement post. So interestingly, it was just
30:03
Speaker 1: Vogue and Tammy who collaborated on the official wedding post.
30:07
Speaker 1: Matt was not a collaborator or even tagged in the post.
30:11
Speaker 1: His name was simply hashtagged. Now, is this because he
30:13
Speaker 1: is not as big as Tammy Hembrough or is this
30:14
Speaker 1: because Tammy had already blocked him by this stage? Yeah,
30:18
Speaker 1: two days after the wedding, they weren't following each other.
30:20
Speaker 1: I want to know if this Vogue spread was the
30:22
Speaker 1: nail in the coffin because TikTok is abuzz with this
30:25
Speaker 1: theory that Vogue weddings are more likely to end in
30:28
Speaker 1: short-lived marriages with couples divorcing usually a year or less later.
30:32
Speaker 1: It's called the Vogue curse and it seems legit in
30:34
Speaker 1: this instance. I just think this marriage was cursed from
30:36
Speaker 1: the start. I don't think it had anything to do
30:38
Speaker 1: with Vogue.
30:39
Speaker 4: I think you're right. Now, in December 2024, Matt and
30:42
Speaker 4: Tammy surprised their followers by honeymooning in Lapland. So they
30:46
Speaker 4: bucked the trend of going somewhere tropical and enjoyed an
30:49
Speaker 4: early white Christmas. And I think it was at this
30:52
Speaker 4: point where Tammy's fans started to get a bit of
30:54
Speaker 4: a soft spot for Matt because Their honeymoon content was
30:57
Speaker 4: next level. They shared these stunning views of the Northern
31:01
Speaker 4: Lights and the TikTok content was pretty epic. They were
31:04
Speaker 4: playing in the snow together, doing all these really cool
31:07
Speaker 4: Christmassy things. At one point, they even got stranded out
31:10
Speaker 4: in the cold because Matt forgot to bring the key
31:12
Speaker 4: card down with him.
31:13
Speaker 1: Well, I think that a lot of people were just
31:14
Speaker 1: surprised that the wedding had gone ahead. And so we
31:17
Speaker 1: kind of had to go through this stage of, well,
31:19
Speaker 1: let's accept this relationship. Yeah, people are probably like, oh,
31:22
Speaker 1: maybe it is the real deal. Now, in the new year,
31:24
Speaker 1: Matt really overshared about his honeymoon on his podcast. He
31:28
Speaker 1: said that he and Tammy had sex under the northern lights.
31:31
Speaker 1: So on the first night of their honeymoon, he said
31:33
Speaker 1: they got woken up by their tour company to let
31:35
Speaker 1: them know that the northern lights were visible. So after
31:38
Speaker 1: viewing the once-in-a-lifetime attraction, Matt said he and Tammy returned
31:42
Speaker 1: to their hotel room and ticked something off their bucket list.
31:45
Speaker 1: Here's what he said.
31:48
Speaker 5: But then we came back to the resort. And we
31:52
Speaker 5: went into the spa at like 2.30 a.m. And we
31:54
Speaker 5: literally watched the Northern Lights dancing above us.
31:58
Speaker 1: Dancing?
31:59
Speaker 5: Yeah. Made love under the Northern Lights in the spa.
32:01
Speaker 5: That's a bucket list one there.
32:03
Speaker 1: It's just too much. On your honeymoon.
32:05
Speaker 5: Give us a break. So that's a bucket list thing.
32:07
Speaker 1: It's the only making love part we want to hear about.
32:09
Speaker 5: Yeah. So under the Northern Lights, that's a cool thing
32:13
Speaker 5: to do.
32:14
Speaker 1: That's a pretty good way to consummate the marriage.
32:15
Speaker 5: I'd say.
32:16
Speaker 3: Yeah.
32:17
Speaker 5: It was cute. Yeah. It was nice.
32:20
Speaker 2: Oh.
32:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, can anything be private these days? Yeah,
32:23
Speaker 1: I'm sure Tammy loved that tidbit being released to the public. Now,
32:27
Speaker 1: in late January, media publications were abuzz with reports Tammy
32:31
Speaker 1: and Matt had a public spat at the Australian Open.
32:34
Speaker 1: So Tammy and Matt were being hosted by Chemist Warehouse
32:37
Speaker 1: and given VIP suite seats worth $ 914 per person. So
32:42
Speaker 1: news outlets reported that patrons were shocked by the couple's behaviour.
32:46
Speaker 1: A witness told the Daily Mail they heard Tammy say,
32:49
Speaker 1: Get your stuff out of my house. Another onlooker commented,
32:53
Speaker 1: one thing is for sure, the Australian Open won't be
32:56
Speaker 1: having them back next year. Tammy ended up returning to
33:00
Speaker 1: the Gold Coast without Matt while he stayed in his
33:02
Speaker 1: hometown of Melbourne partying with his friends. Tammy was then
33:06
Speaker 1: spotted without her wedding rings. However, it didn't take her
33:10
Speaker 1: long to act like nothing had happened as she shared
33:12
Speaker 1: a date night with Matt at the movies. Over the
33:15
Speaker 1: next five months, breakup rumours continued to follow the couple.
33:19
Speaker 1: It was really clear that they were on a break
33:21
Speaker 1: at the very least, with Matt relocating back to Melbourne
33:24
Speaker 1: and working his old job at his dad's pool company.
33:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he was also a notable absentee at key
33:31
Speaker 4: family events, including Tammy's birthday, Wolf's birthday and Easter. Then
33:35
Speaker 4: you had the couple constantly unfollowing and refollowing each other,
33:39
Speaker 4: as well as Tammy posting with and without her engagement
33:42
Speaker 4: ring And it seemed like it was only a matter
33:45
Speaker 4: of time until a breakup announcement was coming when Tammy's
33:48
Speaker 4: best friend, Isabel Laws, unfollowed Matt on Instagram.
33:51
Speaker 1: Not to mention when Tammy and her sisters launched their
33:54
Speaker 1: supplement company, Selfish, and Matt was nowhere to be seen.
33:58
Speaker 1: He was either MIA from his socials or posting about
34:00
Speaker 1: going to the movies by himself. He threw a spanner
34:03
Speaker 1: in the works in May, though, when he appeared on
34:05
Speaker 1: the Inherited podcast where he spoke about the importance of
34:08
Speaker 1: being a stepdad and his relationship with Tammy and It's
34:12
Speaker 1: likely though that that episode was pre-recorded. Yeah, it was
34:15
Speaker 1: a bit of a strange move from Inherited. They're normally
34:17
Speaker 1: so good with the people that they choose to interview,
34:19
Speaker 1: but they got a bit of backlash for including Matt.
34:21
Speaker 4: Now on the 22nd of June, 2025, Tammy announced the
34:25
Speaker 4: news we were all waiting for. She was divorcing Matt
34:27
Speaker 4: Sikowsky after seven months of marriage. And after five episodes,
34:32
Speaker 4: it is at this point where we are going to
34:34
Speaker 4: wrap up this deep dive Over the last month, we
34:36
Speaker 4: have covered the divorce announcement and subsequent fallout in depth.
34:40
Speaker 4: So if you are new here and haven't heard those episodes,
34:42
Speaker 4: check them out in our back catalogue from June and July.
34:46
Speaker 1: Amy, I'm absolutely exhausted. I have been in the world
34:49
Speaker 1: of Tammy Hembrough since March, putting this deep dive together. Yeah,
34:52
Speaker 1: I feel like this is just on pause though, because
34:54
Speaker 1: there's going to be so much that comes out over
34:56
Speaker 1: the next couple of months. I'm sure we will cover
34:58
Speaker 1: it in our episodes on Outspoken.
35:00
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm sure by Tuesday, we'll have something new to
35:02
Speaker 4: talk about with Matt and Tammy and Now, next week,
35:05
Speaker 4: we're going to be making people feel very nostalgic because
35:07
Speaker 4: we are dropping our deep dive series on Freely the
35:10
Speaker 4: Banana Girl.
35:11
Speaker 1: Gosh, what a blast from the past.
35:13
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was wild to go back and look at
35:16
Speaker 4: this time, particularly under the lens of 2025. Like, I
35:19
Speaker 4: cannot believe some of the things that went on back
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Speaker 4: in the 2010s. But we can't wait to share that
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